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Psycho (1960)
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Join Nick and Mercedes as they explore all of their horror blind spots, starting with the 1960 classic, Psycho.
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Introduction to Morbid Curiosities
00:01:12
Speaker
What's up, guys? We're morbid curiosities and we're about to take you on a journey through our horror blind spots. You know, or maybe we're we'll cover every horror movie. Who knows if this lasts like 10 years, but I'm one of your hosts, Nicholas Ewers. And with me is Mercedes Martinez. What's up, guys?
00:01:33
Speaker
What do you think? Good for our first intro? ah Yeah, i'd I'd say so. yeah disling just like Keep rolling with episode one.
Exploring 'Psycho': First Impressions
00:01:42
Speaker
um Yeah, we're starting with ah the movie Psycho today. but um yeah this Neither of us had seen it. Do you want to just happen in the movie or um do you want to talk about the podcast a little bit? ah Uh, I feel like we'll go back and forth with it. So let's like just go with the movie like you were starting.
00:02:04
Speaker
and go with the movie. Okay. Yeah. So kind of like what we described at the beginning, like we're going to be hitting a lot of our horror blind spots and neither of us had seen Psycho except for, you know, we watched it. We both watched it today for this episode. We had watched it months ago. So technically we have seen Psycho now. So this is our Psycho rewatch episode. um We've recorded the whole episode before. We don't need to get into that.
00:02:35
Speaker
um Yeah, this is our inaugural episode. We both had not seen Psycho, so we figured it it's a pretty good place to start, right? Yeah, pretty much. like you You need to see Psycho in order to call yourself a horror movie
Cultural Impact of 'Psycho'
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fan. Just saying.
00:02:52
Speaker
yeah as someone who hadn't seen it until last year i know i know don't fucking judge me nick come on you hadn't seen it either i know yeah oh man let's move on let's be friends but hey but not uh i mean yeah this movie is like so in the zeitgeist though i was kind of going into being like Yeah, well so going ahead spoilers for psycho will just to say ah urge So I don't know if everyone's gonna start with this episode But if you do every episode whatever the title of the movie or title of the episode is whatever movie that is Just assume we're gonna be spoiling it spoiling the whole thing um But psycho you should have seen it. Are you really a movie fan if you haven't seen it? No, we're we're judging you Yeah
Rating and Cast Admiration
00:03:42
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ba um But this movie like being so in the zeitgeist especially as like a movie fan like the shower scene Bates Motel and all of that you kind of go into a movie like this expecting like yeah I've seen it all it's not like it's just gonna be kind of like what you get through it you watch it you check it off the list but um spoilers for like my life I guess watch this movie basically twice today and this movie ah yeah you didn't think I'd be dropping spoilers in the first episode
00:04:20
Speaker
But this movie just is so good from like top to bottom, basically. I have ah an issue that I'll kind of get to that I'm now realizing like doesn't even really matter. Maybe I should just give it five stars on Letterboxd instead of four and a half stars. um Follow me on Letterboxd, Nicholas Ewers.
00:04:41
Speaker
but um Yeah, this movie just, I mean, movies are classic for a reason. They stand the test of time for a reason, but I mean, for me, it just, I could see myself watching this like once a year now that it's in my life. It's it's great in my opinion. I mean, I've i've talked a lot. what What are your thoughts? I think this movie was Pretty damn good. like i I remember being in a college course and we were talking about like different films and we were shown the shower scenes. I'm pretty sure everyone is familiar with that, but um that was the only thing I knew going into it. um
00:05:30
Speaker
No, that's a lie. I actually saw some of the the TV show Bates Motel. So I was kind of getting an idea of what was going on. And then some stuff was already spoiled for me. But once you actually watch the film, you know, just see the artwork, hear the soundtrack, even the actors, one of them you're a big fan of. um I'm a big fan of.
00:05:58
Speaker
Yeah, you think one is, what did you call him? Oh, well, I don't know Anthony Perkins. That's who you're talking about. who yes anthony franking yeah I don't know him too well, but that Norman Bates, I called him a cutie patootie. Yeah. He's, and he's tall. He's like lingering. You know, he's got a shy side, but like he looks like he'll take a bite out of you. Yeah. I see that. Definitely. I see that.
00:06:29
Speaker
Yeah. um But what were you saying? i mean um I mean, Janet Lee steals the show, honestly. Janet Lee, this time around, not not to cut you off, but she, and watching it this time around, I was like, oh my god, she's like so beautiful. She has this, like, she has this say face like in this movie that she's making that looks like she like just smelled a fart kind of but it is. What team did you get that from? I never saw that. Most of the movie rewatch it with that in your mind. I rewatched it. Or like maybe the sun is too bright.
00:07:16
Speaker
No, I rewatched it thinking the same shit. you know Wow, her makeup is on point. like It's hot. It's working for me. Yeah, exactly. Okay, sorry. Continue who with your- No, I interrupted you. You go on. No one needs to hear more of whatever I was saying.
00:07:33
Speaker
um but no like it's just It's such a great movie. Just seeing how Janet Lee just like takes a spotlight in the beginning. you You think you're gonna follow her. You see she's like in a type of secret relationship and she she wants to run away with the guy. um and And it's really like kind of hot, the romance they have going on. right Have you really paid attention to like the dialogue in that scene?
00:08:07
Speaker
I was trying to again with this watch I actually did this time or no didn't this time the first time I did because I need to when I watch a movie for the first time because you know I'm old I always need to all the time. I get mad in the theater. I'm like, why aren't there subtitles? I know, like I need to read what I'm hearing. Like, yeah. Yeah. um But like, yeah, just like, I don't know. I like their chemistry together. um who Who was it? Sam Loomis, Joe, Joe Gavin. um They they make a good and little John get or John Gavin. Sorry. Yeah, thank you.
00:08:49
Speaker
Um, they make a good duo um with the short amount of like screen time they have. um But yeah, you see that Janet Lee, she wants to or her character um wants to run away with him and then she like steals some money from her boss to like make that happen. It's like that's such a cool storyline just to like lead up to it and follow her along her journey in this.
00:09:18
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Well, there's like little details that i I caught this time around in what's happening that I really kind of enjoyed. And in a way, maybe it's because I relate to it now. um But so. You stole some money from your boss?
00:09:34
Speaker
No, no. So when they're talking, when they're getting like hot and heavy in that bedroom and ok she's like, marry me. And he's like, my fucking bitch ex-wife, you know, he doesn't say that, but he's like the alimony money. I'm up to my eyeballs in debt, you know? And I'm like, yeah Oh man, maybe it's because I have a car payment now, but I'm like, I get you. Oh shit. Right. Right.
00:09:56
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I'm like, I fucking get you. He's like, I can't do it. All this debt. I'm like, this is a contemporary problem. In a movie from 1956 or 1960. I'm out by four years. Jesus. Man, we're just fucking up this podcast already. What's wrong? I know. We just shouldn't have even started it. I know. Sorry, guys. Sorry to whoever's listening.
00:10:26
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Yeah, written reviews, five stars. Um, we, uh, stealing that bit from podcast. Yeah. but We're trying. Yeah. I just had to scroll up. I was like confidently saying it as I was scrolling to the year on my phone. And then I was like, fuck.
00:10:43
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Right when
Hitchcock's Relatability and Character Analysis
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I got it out, I was like, don't you hate that you come out with a confident answer and you're wrong. Like that just that makes me never want to answer anything. It's like 60% of the words that come out of my mouth, just confident, false information. I'm just accidentally spreading. It's all an accident. You know, I'll just say something. I'll be like, Hey, it's going to be like 50 degrees and sunny today. And then five seconds later, the weather will be like,
00:11:12
Speaker
It's 40 and rainy. And I'm like, oh, well, that's like wrong. That wasn't a drastic difference. To your credit, the Weather Channel is like hardly accurate half the time anyway. So justing on them just that. Yeah. Anyway, um yeah, he's up to his eyes in debt and I'm just like yeah relatable.
00:11:37
Speaker
Hitchcock, that's why he's the master, you know. he He makes movies about the people for the people. Yeah, pretty much. You can relate on all aspects. Yeah, but she's stealing like 40 grand from this Texan dude. would you Would you do that? Hell fucking no. They could shoot me right then and there. Why would I want that? You you and your husband. are Are we allowed to say his name on the podcast or should we make up a fake name?
00:12:05
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ah Could I make him an alias? No, I'll say his name, a and batman oh Adrian. yeah He actually loves Batman too, so that's pretty damn funny. but ah I went on a date with someone and I told the story on a different podcast and I just referred to a Sigourney Weaver the whole time. so fake name love that is because we saw we saw alien Romulus together. So it was like Sigourney Weaver. That's who I wanted. Oh nice. Nice. Okay. Now I can't get you and Sigourney Weaver out of my head. that's That's a pretty couple right there. Just saying. What age, Sigourney? Is it alien age or is it avatar age? Not that I'm discriminating. Whatever age she is now. She's still beautiful. Older women are great. What's wrong with you? I know. I'm a fan of the older women. you know Shout out to older women.
00:12:54
Speaker
I don't know, it sounded like you were kind of being picky. we no no No, Mercedes. you can't You can't be picky. Like, if you pick Sigourney Weaver, you need to have her as she is. Take her as she is. Why do men want to change the women that they are with? Stop it. Stop it. Anyway. Sounds like you're talking to someone else right now.
00:13:20
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No, no, I'm talking to you, Nicholas. I'm talking to you. Okay, sorry. Let me take it back. You're like, Nick, we just talked about your life before we started recording. No, no, not even that. Don't have room. Don't be judging older people, older women. i should I'm not. I judge them if they're above the age of 60. That's when their prime judge...
00:13:47
Speaker
When I judge them, get off the road. Wow. you know what i'm kit okay i'll take No, I'll take that. I'll take that. But I say that about all old people. Like if you're at an age where you shouldn't be driving, why the fuck are you driving? I'm sorry. I was Hitchcock when he directed this. Hitchcock was 61 when he when this movie came out.
00:14:11
Speaker
And you're over here talking shit about old people. How dare you. What are the chances? yeah I know. When I just set my threshold for 60 and above. I know. just met the threshold ah We are all over the place tonight. I'm just going to change my perspective. It's all good. People have seen Psycho. They've get it. This movie is like so disgust. You know. You you get it.
00:14:35
Speaker
Yeah. So what were we saying? Texting. Oh, yeah. We're allowed to call him Adrian. That's how. oh yeah All right. She listened to this and I kind of forgot about you right there. Sorry. Would you, uh, you wouldn't do this to to make it happen. It wouldn't be worth it.
00:14:58
Speaker
Why would I be doing all the- I'm at a point in my eyes where I would do it. I would do it. Let's face it. Why am I as the woman doing all the heavy work in this situation? This movie is very like, we're going to scrutinize the one woman the whole time. Oh yeah, definitely. But something like, there's even a scene after she gets a new car and she drives away where there's just three men. I don't even know who the third dude was where he came from. is He was like a mechanic or something? I think so, just a a mechanic there.
00:15:31
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I'm like, these people are just bothering this poor woman and then she's going to get stabbed. I mean, to be fair. She's doing all of this for a guy.
00:15:43
Speaker
To be fair, she was being sassy as fuck to everybody, like sassy to the cop, sassy to the car salesman. Did he tell her, did her man, um Mr. John Gavin, so Sam Loomis? Yeah. Yeah, Sam Loomis. Did Sammy, was he telling her to take that money or she did that on her own, right? Yeah, she did that on her own. Yeah, she did it on her own.
00:16:12
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Mm-hmm. She was the ballsy one in the relationship and was trying to make it happen. I mean, powerful woman men can't be stopped. Actually, yes, they can be by a knife.
00:16:27
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And by this cop, well, technically she was already pulled over, but like, yeah, he was just, you know, questioning her like, why is this lone woman just sleeping in her car and out in the middle of nowhere? And she's like, she was like a woman with independence. Yeah, she was, he was like on my one I know she was just standing her fucking ground and I'm just looking at her like,
00:16:53
Speaker
I could never say that to a cop or like anyone. honestly like Did they not invent lying yet? She doesn't lie. Norman Bates doesn't lie good. like right She's just like very like, what is it to you? What is it to you? it's like Make up a lie. You stole a lot of money. Like, is that like a felony level of money? Like, in that point, yeah, it's like, yeah, exactly. Yeah, she she was just like making it so hard to think like, oh, yeah, you're you're perfectly fine. It's not like you're up to no good, like giving me all this damn sass. Like, yeah, you're you committed a pretty hefty crime. Like,
00:17:42
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talk your way out of it better. Norman too, it's like your crime is bigger than hers and you're worse at talking through this. It's like you guys are capable of bad things, but God forbid you lie.
00:17:57
Speaker
I know seeing him talk like and then just like try to tell his white lies or just like talk himself out of like a crappy situation. He put himself in like it was so cringe worthy. I had to cover my eyes a lot just when he was on the screen. Yes, I cover my eyes with certain scenes of movies because I can't take it. I do that in theater sometimes for like really gory scenes. I'll look away.
Future Episode Teasers
00:18:24
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Yeah, um same. I remember I saw the movie Sinister with a buddy of mine and I was like trying to look away at one part. um By the way, we should cover Sinister because that's a badass movie and I think we're going to anyway. We will. Yeah, yeah I haven't seen the second one so we should do it as a pairing.
00:18:47
Speaker
We can, the second one isn't the greatest, the first one's good. You picked Sinister over the witch and Midsomer in this 2010s thing. I was, I really wanted to put, yeah, I wanted to put the the bitch as my pick, but I don't know, I really like Sinister, plus a random side note, the earrings that I got, they look like the symbol from the movie.
00:19:15
Speaker
Bagulli, what's his name? Yeah, Bagull. Is that his name? In there, Bagull and the kids call him Mr. Boogie. And I think that's adorable. That's really his name. I said that as a joke because I didn't know. No, it's Bagull. Yeah, it's his name and there's Bagull. And apparently the actor that played him has his license plate customized as Bagull, I think.
00:19:43
Speaker
ah Just like the Jeepers creepers monster and not the director that the actual monster of the movie. Yeah, there's a monster in his own, right? oh hell Yeah, i'd like you so um but yeah so basically like that, um Say where did we leave off at? I'm sorry um You were gonna get vanity plates that say bugle on it Well, who would not want that? I think that's so fucking cool. Some license plates suck, honestly, just seeing certain ones. Yeah, mine's just letters. Who has letters in it? You need numbers and letters. Oh, well, yeah, I think it's both. Fuck. Damn. Damn it. Our memories are shot. I know our memories are shot, guys. Sorry. we We lose train of thought and just go on random tangents. So we'll talk about some random shit and, you know, get back to the topic at hand. But the tangents are fun. We're like almost halfway through talking about this movie and this movie like I know it's nice. It like there's not.
00:20:53
Speaker
and This movie really breathes but it yeah it's just it's a great sequencing of events and it really like lets you live in each scene but not for too long the biggest chunk is the Norman Bates stuff and that's where you really need to spend most of your time the stuff where ah um I can't remember her character's name and someone was calling me so I couldn't look at my letterbox. Marianne, right? Marianne? Yeah, Marianne Crane. yeah Yeah, the scenes with her and Norman like that's where you really need to spend most of your time and that's where you really do that and like the Norman cleanup. The other like parts before do kind of
00:21:37
Speaker
fly by while allowing themselves to like be full moments. You're spending time at these locations, which is pretty nice. um But what's it called? Yeah, she like basically steals the money from this cowboy, right? Who's like looking to buy a home for his daughter, I think, or is he getting a car for his daughter? I think it's a home, because that's like $40,000. It's a home for his daughter. 1960s money.
00:22:05
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Yeah, she I think his daughter was getting married, so that's why he was buying it. Must be nice. I know, right? Damn. Get a house spot for you. For real. No debt to fall into. Yeah. Maybe that's what this is about. It's it's about wealth.
00:22:26
Speaker
you know It was never about the gender roles or mental health. yeah it's It's just, it's weird. I find little things that I love about Janet Lee in here and then dumb things that drive me crazy.
Food in Film: Gender Perspectives
00:22:45
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Like I was mentioning to you ah about this before, um like how you were saying like each scene, it like, it flies by, but it kind of gives you some time just to like really like live in that scene.
00:23:00
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um This is just a dumb detail but I find it very amusing when she's in the office ah with Norman Bates and apparently this woman was starving because she was so hungry after her longest trip of stealing money and getting a new car um and being sassy to everyone. um She is like buttering toast and takes an eternity just to butter a piece of toast and then to break it in half and then hold it in front of her face.
00:23:38
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for the longest fucking scene I've ever seen with that. And it just drives me crazy because every time I watch a movie with a woman eating, she takes the tiniest nibble of her food if she even does. But if a guy does it, they're they're just stuffing their face like normal and it's fine. No one cares. And the woman next to him is just drinking something like I don't know that bothered me.
00:24:02
Speaker
So you want to see more more women stuffing their face on yeah camera? Yes, like get your fucking face dirty so I can clean it. um Side note, I'm an esthetician. I have a side note too. What were you saying? Wait, I'm an esthetician here, so you know, just come to me with all your skincare concerns. Mercyless underscore aesthetics. M-E-R-C-Y-L-E-S-S underscore aesthetics. Anyway, your side note. Hell yeah. Always be plugging. I like that. um That was a smooth move. Thank you.
00:24:41
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um Fuck. I forgot what I was going to say. Oh, one of my, but no, I remember um one of my pet peeves in movies are when people have a lot of food and it doesn't get eaten or touched. It just sits there. I'm just like, yes.
00:24:59
Speaker
No, assholes. Eat it. Eat all of it. like A Star is Born. Have you seen the 2018 remake? Uh, yes. Brandy Cooper and Lady Gaga. Lady Gaga. Yeah.
00:25:14
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yes yeah they ah There's like a breakfast scene like like one morning after like their first hang after that concert that she comes out and performs. I think that's when it's there.
00:25:26
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and like All this breakfast food is just laid out on the table, and like they're kind of both nibbling on a piece of bacon, sharing stories, and then they're like they go to their bed to like have sex. And it's like, what? No, eat that food. Why did you but have all that food right to your hotel room? It's not that long of a scene. um Then I think, like I don't know. it's Yeah, it's after like, it's the morning after he's like wasted and like Sam Elliott carries him to bed and he's like, you will no no call or whatever Sam Elliott says. and't know I love stars born. But I like I liked it too. I just I haven't seen it in a long time. I only saw it once um a few years ago. But no, that's funny because now I want to watch it. Oh,
00:26:21
Speaker
Sorry if you heard that. and That was me trying to plug in my phone. um But no, the thing that I was thinking about um was ah one of the goosebumps episodes with Slappy in it. Like these parents are like scolding their daughter and there is a whole breakfast set up of food on their table and the kids leave to get ready for school. And all this girl is doing is just sitting there not eating, not drinking her lovely cup of juice. And then the parents leave to go to work. And it's like, OK, who the fuck made all this food? And why isn't anyone actually like eating? Everyone's plate is still full. And what? Like someone grabbed like a grape and left like, no, that drives me crazy. too
00:27:15
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Yeah and there's a reason for for some like actors why they eat the way they do because you have to do take after take after take and like true if you're swallowing that food you're getting super full and some actors will commit and I've heard actors talk about it where they're like I committed to like eating 50 McDoubles. There was one actor I heard talking about that. And they were like, it was the worst thing ever. I thought I was like a pro and not gonna have to. It was like, I just didn't eat that morning. And he was like, it was just so hard to do anything. But most actors, they have a bucket. And when the directors y'all cut, they'll spin into the bucket. And that's why they're like constantly chewing or like overly chewing. Cause it's like, they just have the food in their mouth unless they're actually like eating it. It like,
00:28:07
Speaker
suck Okay that that's fair I that's fair yeah but her like eating it all dainty I feel like that's an of the era type of choice and like a this is how women are presented eating on camera whether and I don't think like Hitchcock is doing that to follow some kind of like societal standard i i would assume it would probably be more of a commentary on the time and like how women are because it feels like something like that maybe a choice maybe it's an acting choice um maybe that's what like
00:28:46
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I don't know. I don't really i't know, but it feels very of the time, if anything. I'd be curious, um the Psycho remake, I'd be curious how they have her eating in that one since that one came out in 1998.
00:29:01
Speaker
Yeah, that that's going to be like the main concern. Not the death itself, that, how she eats. Cause she took two bites out of this piece of bread and then she was full. Yeah. We'll have to cover that a year from now. We'll have to hold off on watching that, cover it a year from now and maybe do the psycho sequels along with it, you know, close out the psycho loop on the, around the year anniversary of the pod. um Let's go.
00:29:29
Speaker
Hell yeah. But uh, what's it called? So yeah she goes to trade in the car basically, and we don't have to talk about the movie in order, we can like skip around. But um, she doesn't like get any registration for this car or anything. and that kind of is just like do you not have anything better to do with your day than just like sit there parked and just everybody is behaving awful except for the car dealership guy he like is right to kind of be concerned
00:30:03
Speaker
um but This lady doesn't even get like registration or anything like for the car. um The plate's already on it. I don't know how like dealerships used to work back then. It seemed very easy. I just got a car recently and it ah it was a process. I was there all day. then like yeah She was there not even a half hour.
00:30:25
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Not even five minutes she was in and out. like I mean, the car dealer she was like trying to get her to like at least drive her on if she didn't want to. She was barely physically in the actual building. that too She signed paperwork. She, they went inside for like a second, but they were pretty much doing this entire transaction outside. Like she did not want to like negotiate or anything. You know what that means? Trouble. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, because she like goes in with him and then the cop like just pulls into the parking lot. And so you could have walked, dude. Yeah, that he could have walked. He didn't have to bring his. Well, I don't know. Maybe he thought he was going to have to like chase after her. Give the cops some credit. She was sassy to him. She did not have to be.
00:31:19
Speaker
She didn't, I mean, is sleeping in your car a crime? Maybe, I guess, depending on where you sleep, it's a crime, but like, ah he's really like, he's, I i don't even know, she's like, she's from like this country, you know? It's like...
00:31:43
Speaker
You know what I mean? It's yeah not not like she's a threat to national security or anything, you know? I don't know, maybe he just thought it was strange for a young, beautiful woman to be sleeping in her car in the middle of the mountains or, yeah, because that's pretty much where it looked like she was at, so. I mean, she was tired and like almost fell asleep at the, that's the most reasonable thing she like says to the cop and the cop is like, not
Analysis of Key Scenes and Score
00:32:18
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good enough. Let me ask you 50 more times if you're okay.
00:32:22
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And it's like, you know, it's like at the certain point, like you're becoming like the antagonist in the situation, you know, like cops aren't supposed to be antagonists in society. You know, that's not the role they're supposed to play in society. They're supposed to be quote unquote peacekeepers. And he's like being a total dick. It's just like, so if If you saw a young, beautiful woman in her car and it was your job, you know, just to, you know, see what's going on with that. You did question her a million times, like, oh, not a million times. He didn't question her a million times. I'm exaggerating. You wouldn't question her like he did, but wouldn't you like.
00:33:13
Speaker
yeah I wouldn't follow her. you're yeah It's becoming harassment. Well, yeah, he didn't have to follow her. That was too much. Yeah. Like when they part ways, that should be the end of his involvement with her. You know, it's like if you're not going to pursue this any further in the moment of pulling her over, it's weird to keep following this person throughout their day. It doesn't feel like that's your job.
00:33:40
Speaker
That's true. If I see someone like in my rearview mirror like making all the turns I do just after like one, I get paranoid. So that's fair. That is fair.
00:33:53
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yeah Also, doesn't he have a superior he should be like checking in with? like Who would probably be like, hey, don't follow that woman. ah We have like other stuff going on here in California. It was probably a slow day. It was probably a slow morning. They're in California. is it ever so There's probably like a homeless person burning down a building somewhere.
00:34:17
Speaker
you probably but anyway let's let's just let's talk about like her drive like the soundtrack with her driving like Oh my God, it just it's like a masterpiece, just like hearing the soundtrack to this movie, I love it. Oh, the score? I'm surprised we haven't gotten to the score yet, because that's all I was thinking, like both times watching it. This score fucks so hard. It's so good, man. and I'm serious. like You had said, like man, i what did you say? like I forgot how good the score was or yeah something?
00:34:55
Speaker
it draws you in and just like keeps you there, you know, because when she's driving and it's like, but didn didn didn and didn and and but and and did you know, and even the opening credits with all it just visually, it's so cool. I have a feeling all of Hitchcock's opening credits are good but spoilers for the podcast, at least for me. This is the only Hitchcock movie I've seen up until this point. um Is that the case for you? Yeah, pretty much.
00:35:25
Speaker
Yeah, that's on our list too to potentially cover him as a filmmaker. I think that would actually be really fun. ah Yeah, definitely. What's it called? um But yeah, it just it's a fucking banger of a score. i like don't I'm not too familiar with a lot of iconic movie scores, like pre-Star Wars, Jaws, Psycho, but this might be the earliest case, at least for me, example of like iconic, memorable, like I can hum this movie score. and yeah can Can you think of anything that like predates this? I cannot.
00:36:09
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um Yeah, I really can't. This one, it just stands out a lot. Like even when you go into like the iconic shower scene, um, before I say like a stupid detail on that, the music just like the, I sound bad when I describe sounds, but like, you know, it sounds like, like the screeching, like the deep, deep, deep. Yeah, you do better. yeah That was better. um Yeah. And then while she's like screaming, getting killed, the little amount of like blood and gore that was in the scene that just made the scene like so tasteful along with the score. It was it was very well thought out. I I love that kill scene. Beautiful. And her. I don't know. It was just like it was so cool just to see like how
00:37:04
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one dribble of blood that was like on the tub. But um yeah, just like pairing that with the music was awesome. Did did we talk about before in the first time we recorded this, like it doesn't look like he's stabbing her with a knife?
00:37:23
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Yeah. Yeah. Like the believability isn't fully there. um Right. I love the way she falls, though. She falls in such a cool and interesting way. I like weird, like weird stuff like that. Like um Dune part one. um Have you seen Dune, the Denis Villeneuve movies? I have not, no.
00:37:51
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Part one, um minor spoilers for Dune, I guess. Oscar Isaac is like paralyzed and in a chair, ah sitting across from like the the main villain of that movie. And the way his body is just laying there so weird in the chair because he's just paralyzed, it's like such a choice. And I just love it. I love weird, awkward choices like that. like yeah dead body wouldn't fall in a way that makes sense because it's like not trying to protect itself from anything as it's falling because it's lifeless and same would be from like a paralyzed body because it's incapable of like
00:38:34
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moving to protect itself like the normal like Ways your body moves in a fall isn't a factor anymore And so it just it ends up for like like hell or high water um Without spoiling it a character gets shot in the head when he's sitting down and the way his body falls forward when he's sitting down and just lays there is so like weird because it stays in a seated position and it's like I really like touches like that and then the camera zoom out from the eye like as it's like turning I don't even I don't know if they manually turn the film I think I heard something like maybe they did that I could be wrong but I was really trying to think like how would you have done that 1960 with the technology they have and
00:39:21
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Maybe it was like pretty easy and I'm overthinking it, but um everything about that shower kill is like so masterfully like done from a staging and a framing and a filming aspect. it's like and Visually, you get why it stood the test of time. It's like better than what people talk about.
00:39:46
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It's my take on the shower scene. yeah Sorry, here I was just like taken back by that. like That was such a good breakdown of it. um Yeah, just like seeing like the the outro of just like her eyeball as she's already dead, it's like that in itself just disturbed me. like What the hell did I just watch? Like I thought we were going to follow this woman to the end. I thought this movie was about her and she's dead. So now who is it going to be about? like I was so confused. So you're very first time watching this last year. Yeah, I was so confused by it. So like. So you had no idea of the switcheroo at all, right? I can't remember. We probably talked about this, but I didn't remember that. You had no idea? No, I did, actually. on It becomes like a three-hander, basically, or a four-hander. The movie gets divided up um by a few characters after she dies.
00:40:50
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Yeah, I um I didn't know what the ending was going to be. Well, I keep saying I don't and I did um just because like some of the show that I watched spoiled it for me. So once I was watching it last year, I was like, wait a minute. I think I know what's about to happen. ah The show is a prequel.
00:41:14
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ah With flash forwards, it sounds like I know nothing about it, but if it spoils the end of psycho, it sounds like it would have sequel elements, but I always thought it was a prequel. It's like a prequel that leads into like.
00:41:30
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I guess what happens like after the end of Psycho. I didn't watch the entire series because it got me mad. um But yeah, like it spoils the ending for you just because they killed off Vera Farmiga and I loved her so much. She was quite a character.
00:41:53
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She is, and apparently she's in like- She's been slavin' around in those Godzilla movies. Well, I don't even remember if she was in the last one. I think she was. Those movies suck. Isn't she- Godzilla con ones. Oh, I didn't see that one, but isn't she in like a metal band? Not minus one Shin Godzilla. Those are super cool. Isn't she what? Sorry. In a metal band now? I heard about that. She's either in a metal band or she like performed a song on stage with a metal band, something like that.
00:42:22
Speaker
I feel like it was duality. I'm pretty sure that's what it was. It's never a cool song. you i mean I do like that Slipknot album, but it's so yeah it's always like the most expected song. you think like No one famous ever knows real deep cut. like Oh, Jim Carrey knows Hammer, Smash Face. It's not even near Close to Bing, Cannibal Corp's best song.
00:42:50
Speaker
Right. Right. Just like known. Right. Yeah. um I didn't see it. I just like I saw a glimpse of it because I think I was at work checking my phone. But um yeah, pretty sure I thought like an image of this was like her what she was like working on for a new movie. But then I just kept seeing like little articles like, oh, yeah, she's in a band now. I'm like, really? OK, like.
00:43:20
Speaker
I'll look into it and I still haven't. I'm terrible with that. She could be pulling a Joaquin Phoenix and like Joaquin Phoenix, you know, was like, I'm going to be a rapper. I'm ending my career. It was for a fake documentary that Casey Affleck directed that like nobody liked or whatever. I want to watch it. I want to see what it's about. It's been really weird with David Letterman on an and and an interview.
00:43:44
Speaker
Interesting. um Yeah, I liked Joaquin Phoenix back when he was in, like, Signs and The Village and then anything after that. He seems like he sucks as a person. I don't know if you keep up with the movie news at all. I should. But ge it's come out that he likes to walk off of projects a lot right when they're supposed to start filming.
00:44:09
Speaker
And so there was this movie from the May-December director, writer-director, and I forgot his name. I think it's like Todd Haynes maybe. um And Joaquin Phoenix went to him with ah This whole thing, it's like, I want to do a hard like NC 17, maybe even like X-rated, like gay romance movie with like actual real, I think it was supposed to have like real sex in it.
Off-Topic Anecdotes and Concert Stories
00:44:46
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Like Joaquin Phoenix was going to be like.
00:44:50
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getting intimate with another guy. And like the movie was written, it was funded, ready to go into production. And Joaquin pulled out right before I was about to start filming. And he was the reason those movies get funded. So that movie isn't getting made. And I think the studio that I could be wrong, I think the studio that was like supposed to produce it might be like going under like everybody's taking a hard financial hit it's like I don't know dude seems like a fucking asshole so I hate that when like the actors that you like are pieces of garbage in real life it's like dude you're a fucking human too like
00:45:39
Speaker
Yeah. I suppose Joker Folly had do sucked. Todd Phillips sucks too. you I could go on a whole Todd Phillips rant. I didn't even bother seeing that. Um, as the first, yeah, the first one was okay, but like the second one, I was like, i I didn't even like the first one really. And I went into the second one just because we had to review it. And I just, Todd Phillips is a person, everything he said in interviews around that movie, but just, I,
00:46:08
Speaker
The guy sucks. It's just two people who suck. I'm glad they're working together, just sucking the room up together. um Anyway, ah Psycho, Joaquin Phoenix, you know, I don't know. He could play a weirdo like Norman Bates. He probably could, honestly.
00:46:27
Speaker
but um Norman Bates, iconic. So we were talking about the perspective shift. I don't know exactly how that got us to Joaquin, but. No, I'm sorry. No, it was probably me. I feel like I derail everything. But tangents, I think that's why people are listening. um Let's hope they're still listening. People are telling all their friends about it. You know, they can't stop talking about, I forgot the name of the podcast, morbid curiosities.
00:47:00
Speaker
What you forgot? we I've only said it out loud twice. That was the second time. I've only like seen it in text form. Hey, I made a picture today.
00:47:15
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And it was a really good picture. I like the second one honestly. The second one was good. Let's go with that one. Let's go with that one. I don't remember which one is up for now, but I'll change it if it's not that one. All right, cool. But ah what's it called? People are getting a little peek behind how the production of this thing works. I know.
00:47:34
Speaker
bad They know we text. um Yeah. Everything is all chaos. Like it's this whole podcast is going to be fucking weird. So if you listen to the entire thing, you're a real one. Actually, this time around, it's been coming together like super easy, I feel like.
00:47:53
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Yeah just to give you guys a little background we were attempting to record Psycho last year this episode and um we were trying to get our footing with it and then the few episodes after we slowly started getting more of an idea of how we want to speak and then Now we're just fucking weird. Well, we have better microphones now too. like The setup's a bit better. Let's not talk about my microphone, okay? I feel bad about my microphone. Why? Don't feel bad about it. I was like, I'm ready for it. and then like
00:48:32
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You're like, yeah, this microphone fucking sucks. like Okay, I'm sorry. Well, I didn't say it sucks. it The blue tooth of it all um was what wasn't working.
00:48:47
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I'm not tech savvy. I don't know this shit. i yeah so why We have good equipment now. We recorded it. We have decent equipment. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Okay. like just Let's just shit on everything I'm saying. Sorry. shit No, I'm wrong. You're right. Our microphones are better than yours if you're listening. Your equipment sucks. Ours is good.
00:49:12
Speaker
I'm just not going to say anything. This is the best sounding podcast ever. Suck our dicks. Suck Mercedes dick. Crickets, I have to say, just because everything I'm saying is wrong. It's not wrong. I'm sorry. Whatever. Anyway, back to the movie. Perspective shifts.
00:49:33
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um Norman Bates, you really, at least for me, especially this time around, you're really rooting for the guy to get away with it.
00:49:45
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You kind of are, like. Fully, like when the car starts to sink, I knew it was gonna happen, I still laughed. And I was just like, it's, it was good. And then when he's talking to the one detective, you're like, lie better. What are you doing? You killed somebody, try harder to get out. The fuck are you getting away with killing someone and you can't even fucking lie and cover your ass? like Oh my God, that was so hard to watch. Even the second time around. It's really cringe. It's like, I don't know if Hitchcock, the word cringe, I don't think was around back then or like being used in that type of way, but it's like right Hitchcock invented cringe cinema yeah with that scene. It just, cause the whole time you're like, you're thinking of what you would say and even putting one fourth of the thought
00:50:43
Speaker
ah Just one fourth of like your best thought work and do it. You come up with just shit effortlessly. That's better than what he's saying. Exactly. It was tragic to see all of his little lies. My God. And even when um the ah Sam Loomis and then um ah Janet Lee's sister in the movie, when they are trying to like check into the hotel I don't know if this is a thing, I don't travel like that, but like he was telling Norman Bates, like oh wow, this is the first time I've ever seen this. like If you don't have bags, you pay in advance, and I guess Norman was overlooking that. like Is that really a thing, or was that a thing paying in advance? If you don't have bags, you pay in advance? Yeah. What does that even mean?
00:51:37
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You have to pay like right then and there. like I don't know. It was weird. I didn't understand that detail. um I'm sorry. I'm picking out the dumb details. So if you don't have bags, you have to pay before you check in. Yeah.
00:51:53
Speaker
It sounds like kind of sounds like their way of almost taking a deposit kind of like, Hey, like we're going to hold this money just in case like you fucking fuck up the room or just in case you're like cards not good. It almost seems like a way like, Hey, you don't have bags. You might be able to get the fuck out of here, like pretty fast. So like having bags kind of shows that like you're settling in, but she had a bag.
00:52:24
Speaker
She did. So and she just didn't tell him about it because it had the money in it. I guess not. um Does he take the money? Does she? I don't remember when he was when he was cleaning up the room, she had put the money in that magazine or but the newspaper that she bought. And it was just wrapped up on like the side table. And when he was cleaning up the room, he just grabbed that. And I think he put it in the trunk.
00:52:51
Speaker
Okay, so cuz I was wondering like did anything come of that money does that come into playing psycho too? I Don't know we gotta watch psycho too to find out he gets it out of the money. We will have to cover the psychos Mm-hmm get psycho speaking of psycho. I was listening to the system of a down song psycho yesterday You've heard it. You're familiar Yeah So, question um, yeah i not like, I'm not an alien. Yeah. Well, it's not like their most known song, um, psycho, but for the listener, like the course, it's not the course. I think it's the verse. It's like psycho groupy cocaine, crazy psycho groupy coke. And I'm like singing it as I'm texting my mom.
00:53:43
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I accidentally texted her and I was like, I meant to say, Hey, did you order dinner? And instead I texted, Hey, did you order coke?
00:53:55
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and
00:53:58
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Yeah. And then I had to tell her, sorry, I'm listening to a song about drugs.
00:54:09
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there's such a and conversation Oh my God. That really happened. I intended on bringing it up. I thought of it this morning. I was like, psycho system of a down. That's something that happened that I could tell on the podcast. So I kind of.
00:54:28
Speaker
What better question? What did your mom say to that? I responded before she got a chance to respond. So she just did a ha ha react to what I said. And then let me see. I think I could pull up her actual response. Oh, she didn't even.
00:54:49
Speaker
Acknowledge it. She didn't even acknowledge it. She just said, ha ha. do ru yeah ah the That's funny. What was it? um I remember I was in like this one workout class and we were stretching and I was humming. Cigaro, like I'm hoping I have the right. Which part? the ah the intro like okay is much bigger than yours and I'm humming it to myself obviously and this is an interesting one to hum I know because it was stuck in my head it's like picking violent pornography too like
00:55:34
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um Choking chicks and sodomy, you know, that's a good ass line. I'm just saying yeah do yourself i love seeing silver down They're i probably my favorite out of that you are Yeah, we're gonna go see who are they is that with corn or something? Oh avenge? No. Yeah avenge sevenfold. Do you like avenge? I love avenge sevenfold. I They were never my thing, but I respect the diehardness that people have for Avenge. Like, everyone made fun of me for liking them and it's like...
00:56:13
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Everyone made fun of all the fucking music that I listened to and it's like, fuck you guys. But, uh, oh, but back to the, the one story, um, I was, I was just humming it to myself and then my friend was like, what are you singing? I'm like, nothing. And she's like, like it's an original. I wrote it.
00:56:30
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I know, and she was like, why don't you ever sing to me? I'm like, I don't think you want me to sing this song to you because she was, she she wasn't really religious, but um she was like, why? I want to hear you sing to me.
00:56:44
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okay and i just kind of like went really loud and and started yelling that and she just looked at me like i told you like i warned you so that was her fault you sang it like darren too when it first kicks in and he's just like belting it out like My cock is much bigger than yours. Who can replicate that that sound? I could not do that. I tried to, but yeah, no, that that was that would have been very bad. um Plus there were other people by us and I wasn't that ballsy enough to scream at that load.
00:57:18
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yeah ah you should you could have done that cool and and ah that part i could have but she was already she was she was looking at me like weird so i had already lost my target audience it's a weird song it's a very strange song which is why i was trying to keep it to myself but apparently i was just too happy that day and singing B-Y-O-B, I think that it's off the same album or the other album, you know, that's got like a a dance feel like everybody's going to the but it sounds like you're singing a normal song. I told you I'm fucking weird. Like I would pick the weirdest shit. So yeah, the that was a good time. but The system of downplaying Soldier Field.
00:58:07
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Uh, yeah, they're going to be at soldier field. So the, they actually, they were going to do August 31st, but they had to add September 1st because tickets sold out. So that's cool. I'm super jealous of you. I like just got back into system of a down this weekend. Lovely timing. Yeah. But, um,
00:58:36
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Maybe I'll try to go. ah But I saw System of a Down once, I want to say just the one time e ah at Riot Fest in 2015. That made the news. It was a horrible show. um Really? Yeah, because ah it rained like all weekend and Oh, okay. The whole ground was mud. Riot Fest is just a place filled with people who have never been to a metal show and yeah weren't prepared for when a headliner goes on. like This happened when I saw Slipknot. I was like a freshman in high school. I thought I was going to die. It was like fucking crazy.
00:59:20
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um the whole crowd shifts forward for like a big arena act and it's like if you're there like you're immediately pressed up against someone to be like I can't breathe and you are just shoved for your feet don't even move you get moved for you like you float to your destination or in this case the mud The top half of you shifts your feet stay stationary and the whole crowd tips over on each other and System of a Down has to stop their show two or three times ambulances have to come in and take people out in stretchers there were like news stories of people saying like I couldn't breathe because I was being trampled and Luckily, I'm tall I was like pretty I was in that I was in that I was like a couple people from the barrier ah me and my buddy Ed ah Shadow Ted Roseberry um He got us in like our group very close to the front and then like I almost fell over but again, I'm tall and I am prepared for like this level of fucking insanity now like
01:00:35
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After like doing it since i grade school, like sixth grade is when I started going to metal shows. Nice. I was really young dealing with this type of stuff. Slipknot, I couldn't handle it. I had to move because during Eyeless, when they were doing the jumping part at the doo-doo-doo-doo part,
01:00:55
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um I was involuntarily jumping up with the crowd because I was so tightly packed in and I couldn't breathe. I thought I was gonna pass out and me and my buddy, Emmanuel, that was his first concert ever. We had to get our way back and we hung out in the mosh pit the rest of the show. It was way more survivable in the pit than being near the front. It was fucking crazy. But yes, just move it down. That was also crazy too.
01:01:23
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That's our metal corner, guys. We like metal music. I like a bunch of shitty music, too, that Mercedes hates, also. But we like metal. Where did that come from? Well, I'm just... I'm gonna just... It's a shot I'm taking. I'm calling my shot. But I assume if I played my playlist, you would probably not like 80% of it, maybe 70. Like, the metal that's in there is a list is good. What's up?
01:01:53
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Do you have rap on your playlist? I do. I have a lot of rap. I have a lot of pop. And I agree. A lot of rap and a lot of pop. I like to dance. I do too, but I don't like rap. I can't. I tried. I can't. I love hip hop. Old school. I can't. Contemporary hip hop, like a lot of it is shitty, but I find my hip hop and I like fucking love it. But yeah.
01:02:18
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Feel that? That's cool. That's cool. A quick story just because you reminded me of it and because we brought up Avenged Sevenfold. The first time I got to see them was a taste of chaos. And I think I was a freshman at that one point.
01:02:34
Speaker
Wow, I'm so old. But, um yeah, I went and my dad got me tickets um and my brother and his girlfriend came with me because I didn't have friends at that point, apparently. But, um yeah, I'm all hyped to go. And then we were able to get like so close to like the stage and I was like, fuck, yeah. um and This is a venge headlining. Yeah. Their own show or festival.
01:03:04
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It was their own show. um I think, who else was there? I think Atreyu, who I hate, um and both of my Valentine were playing. that Honestly, i'm not gonna like I hate that lineup.
01:03:19
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yeah right A Ben Sevenfold is the best man on that lineup and I wouldn't say I'm a big fan of them. I like their singles and again, I don't have anything against them. They just were never a band I pursued in that way. I get that, yeah. They're like cheese ball songs like, nightmare. I can get down to that or I like afterlife. What?
01:03:41
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I love those. I love nightmare. I love afterlife. um I like them too. I'm not hating, you know? You are hating. But anyway, so yeah. cheese well I like cheese. Cheese balls not an insult.
01:03:54
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Okay. Fine. I'll accept that. But no, I, I didn't, I wasn't a fan of the lineup either. Um, but like, I just remember, um, I'm short. If no one fucking knows this, I'm like five zero opposite in height. It's so awkward because I'm looking up at like a tower. Like I'm so tiny compared to everybody.
01:04:19
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Yeah, if you put like a small child on your shoulders and like you wore a trench coat, you might be close to my height. probably. Let's go with that. um But yeah, i I think three people were in front of me. um And then after this one band played, two of them left. And then I was like, oh my God, I'm like right here. And my brother was like Mercedes, when once they start mashing, I'm going to shove you up into the front. I'm like,
01:04:50
Speaker
okay cool i'm ready ah because one tall bitch got in front of me i'm like oh my god i can't see what am i gonna do i was about to start crying and then um he like shoved me up into the front and i latched my arm onto the gate and the two girls that I was like squished in between were so mad at me. One of them tried stepping on me so I stomped on her foot and the other one tried shoving me and I shoved her ass right back and I just like held on and I looked like a child holding on for dear life onto that gate but that made my that made my decade. It was was pretty cool. It was dope. Okay, sorry. Back to the movie. I will say real quick before we go back to the movie. We've talked about almost the whole movie at this point. Pretty much. Yeah, no one cares about the movie anymore. Fans of those type of bands, and if you're listening to this, I hope you take this personally if you're this way.
01:05:52
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um Fans of these types of bands are the absolute worst, the event seven-fold fans, the disturbed fans. I say that as a fan of disturbed, older disturbed, not new disturbed um fucking Godsmack fans, the hard rock like bordering metal type of bands.
01:06:14
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like So freshman year, same year I saw Slipknot. ah um I saw Disturbed at the Charter One Pavilion. It was ah Chimera, Lacuna Coil, Killswitch Engage, and Disturbed. And I got my way to the front like very early on. We got the to the show early, so I like planted myself in the front immediately.
01:06:37
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and uh throughout kill switching gauges like whole set fucking this annoying lady behind me and i'm like 14 or 15 at the time and this lady has to be like i don't know 30s 40s maybe a little older i didn't have a good view of her because she was behind me shit faced Pulling my hair the whole time just yanking it Aggressively because I was taller than her and she couldn't see and she was fucking like assaulting me the whole Kill switch engage set most of disturbed set like just being a total fucking asshole to me just because she couldn't see past me and other people Grown men other adults were like leave this kid alone. Stop touching this kid like my
01:07:29
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other people were getting on her and she was like I can't see tell him to move then and it's like it just and I had another case like that like when I was just in the pit for god smack at a mayhem fest show like not mashing just there and just like walking through trying to find a place to stand people fucking shoulder checking me people calling me an asshole telling me to get out of my way it's like have you never been here before it's like holy shit like these people could not handle a show the level of like you know dying fetus or like
01:08:07
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I saw a cannibal corpse headline the house of blues and when evisceration plague kicked on it was like bodies were being tossed through the air it was like the coolest thing and it's like these people are fucking just honestly they probably make a decent amount of money they're just like really fucking rich shitty white people and it's just the worst that's my tangent sorry to make the psycho episode like ah I mean, I agree with that, though. Like I feel like people were like more douchebag like at those shows than like when I went to see I'm on a Marth. Like I had no fucking problems with people like that. A funny story with that. I think we're just going to talk about music after your story. We'll get back. Then we'll go back. I promise. I'll try not to have a story to respond to your story. It's because we have so many good ones. I know. I mean, this is a good intro episode. You're learning about us as people. This is what they'll latch on to. You know, they came for Psycho. They're sticking for our concert stories.
01:09:19
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Yeah, exactly. Like you're getting the full the full spectrum of yeah plus all the shit we love. We're an hour 11 in. They got like an hour of psycho up until this point. And again, we're like almost done with talking about the movie. Like we had most of the key points.
01:09:36
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Pretty much. um So you were singing on a Marth? Yeah. And this was actually the first time um I was taking my husband to a concert. And I had talked about. That's a good like pick, you know, like a headliner. They did they like their Viking ship.
01:09:55
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yeah Oh, yeah, they did. And I was like losing my mind when I saw everything. Oh, my fucking God, it was such a great show. um But it was funny, because like maybe a year before I was talking to my husband about going to a show.
01:10:10
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um Because he I listen to heavier things than he does. Like when I met him, he would mainly listen to like bands like Blink 182, which, you know, they're good. um Are they? I don't listen to them. Let's interrogate that statement. I'm not trying to bash them. They have some good songs. I just I didn't listen to them like that. I would listen to the All-American Rejects like.
01:10:38
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What's your take on that? You have a really bad reaction to that. I made a face. That's not good for an audio medium. ah ah My younger brother really liked him. ah Yeah, that's all I got to say. I liked them before. Yeah, I liked them before. like I still like their their old stuff. bullying i People, you know, it doesn't matter what I don't like. I don't like the Beatles, so who cares?
01:11:08
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I like the Beatles, so anyway. My younger brother also likes the Beatles. He has good taste. But then they won't hear our ridiculous banter, so come on now. But it was funny because when... It's just like me, trust me, you won't notice it. My younger brother, you won't notice a difference.
01:11:28
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That's hilarious. That's hilarious. But that a so um but like when we went, like I'm just so excited. and like And I'm excited to have my husband with me. And I'm just like, yeah, this is going to be so fucking awesome. And then when we get there, um we, ah what was it? We got, um it was like like a bar. I forgot where it was. But we weren't too far from the stage.
01:11:54
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and arch enemy also played there and then once they were playing like everyone started moshing and i guess i forgot to mention people would be moshing like i i thought i mean i feel like you kind of know that i've seen moshing at hip-hop shows before Yeah. And like, I guess just like, cause my husband wasn't at a concert, like he forgot about that. So he was like, whoa, what the hell? And then, um, you know, I'm just like, I'm going with it, whatever. And then he's like,
01:12:28
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Are they gonna stop once amount of Marth comes up? I'm like, no. It's gonna get worse worse. Exactly. So much worse. They might be, yeah some men do this thing called a wall of death. You never know. or no Yeah. Yeah. And they did. Oh my God. I don't know what it's called. They were like on the floor fucking rowing or something. The crowd. and Yeah. And he's looking at them like, what the hell are they doing? I'm like, just,
01:12:54
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just go with it it's fun i didn't do it but like it was cool to see and i was yeah so on a shitt that's right yeah know they did that i've seen them i didn't either i've never seen anyone do that i'm like yeah okay cool like let me keep watching the show and i'm just having like the time of my life and then any fucking time we go talk to someone about concerts he brings it up because he's like Mercedes is just up there like enjoying her life and I'm like in the back trying to like make sure no one is hitting her no one's running into her I'm like
01:13:29
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I didn't tell you to do that though. He's like, yeah, but I'm trying to like, make sure you're okay. And I'm just like, again, yeah it it comes with the territory. It does. Yeah. That's so sweet. That's like, I love you that i do, but like, that's like, i was expecting it that is that's so endearing. I do kind of like love it. Cause I've never.
01:13:53
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I guess I've never like been there cause well, I've been like the, I have to protect the girl I'm with. I've been in that position, but it's always been when the girl's like, I have no idea like what the fuck, like they're new to the whole thing. So it's like, I kind of have to protect them. And generally it helps because I am usually a lot taller than the person I'm with. yeah um And so it like, I,
01:14:20
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Yeah, it just ends up working out. But um I've been to some shows, yeah, with girls who I don't get in the pit, but well they will go get in the pit and like, they'll be like, yeah, I kind of killed it. It's like, i actually, no one hit you because you're a girl. But, you know, it's. Yeah, I could see that. I was watching people go out of their way to not touch you. Right. um But i trailing around her. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
01:14:50
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ah roll out of red carpet. um But it's like, yeah, it's it's so funny. That's just, that's great. ah That's a good relationship dynamic that you don't see a lot. That's pretty, yeah like, again, endearing is the word I come back to. I love it. um yeah What's it called?
01:15:14
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um I was about to say, what were we saying about Psycho? We're so bad at this. No, we're so bad we're great. Everybody loves it. um Let's we can hope they're lacking with us and not at us.
01:15:31
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We can bring a background to Psycho. um Yeah. Yeah, so he lies to the detective. He murders the shit out of that detective and he like, is that, no, I don't think that's when he lets out a scream. I think it's when he's going to stab the girl's sister and yeah the, you know, that like hunk of a man, um that man-witch goes and ah disarms him. and That man-witch.
01:15:58
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yeah he like let's ah Yeah, he stops him with his huge dick. No, I'm kidding.
01:16:08
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eat The men in here are handsome. Let's just let's say that. yeah um He disarms him. He gets the knife.
01:16:22
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out of his hand and Norman Bates I think this is when I clocked it he like lets out a scream that is like so like you hear him turning from like his mom back into himself kind of like right you see the personality transition kind of happen I really enjoyed that touch this is this is a movie that like in terms of like the acting uh the score and the camera work i feel like i might be completely unqualified to make this statement but it feels like it's ahead of its time um just everything this movie's doing uh it operates better than
01:17:01
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um So many movies I see in theaters every single year.
Enduring Legacy of 'Psycho'
01:17:07
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um This would probably, if I had to put this, again, it's dumb, I'm not gonna say what I was about to say actually, because I feel like it's a very dumb statement. Just say it, just say it. well i'm ahead I'm not gonna say it, it's embarrassing.
01:17:23
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You can't rile us up and then just not say it. it was i've We've hyped it up too much. ah so I was gonna say you could take Psycho and put it up against like most movies that come out each year and Psycho would probably be the number one on over all those movies.
01:17:43
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And that just sounds so stupid to say because it's like, yeah, of course it's a classic. It's stood the test of time. Why would you think that Nick? It's like, uh, it's crazy. But that's still a good, a good detail to say. Cause some of the movies that have been released over the past year dog shit out there. Suck. Yes. Those suck. Like, Oh my God. This would be a more bold statement and let maybe.
01:18:09
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I'll lay down my marker here and see if I'm right. Psycho 2 is better than most modern blockbusters that come out nowadays. I'm going to say that I like Psycho 2 more than most modern blockbusters. I'm going to say this too. I like Psycho 2 more than Deadpool and Wolverine. I haven't seen it yet, but I'm going to throw it down that when I watch Psycho 2, I'm going to have that opinion. And I'll play this clip on our Psycho 2 episode.
01:18:38
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All right, lets let's see how it is. because Calling my shot. Episode one. yeah let's see Let's see if your foreshadowing works or if it's good. yeah um I know you touched on the perspective shift and then we went off the rails. I had said a little bit a lot about it but was there anything you wanted to touch on on that perspective shift it like basically following Bates the detective and then the the I almost said couple but the sister ah boyfriend pairing um it just it threw me off in a good way just because it's like
01:19:19
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Who do we pay attention to now because our main character is gone? Yeah, I know. But at that point, like when I first watched it, but still, I didn't want to pay attention to all these other people. I was following the beautiful Janet Lee. Like I was so confused. so ah so but like I get what you mean. Not necessarily like who but who do we pay attention to, but like.
01:19:43
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Who do we root for? Is that kind of what you mean? Who am I supposed to be pumping my fist for? Yes, pretty much. um and like I agree with what you were saying earlier. like you know You're kind of rooting for Norman Bates at this point, but it's just like, you're such a bad liar. He deserves to get caught because of how bad of a liar he is.
01:20:11
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Yeah, at that point, it's like. You didn't even earn like freedom. You didn't earn to get away with this shit. Yeah. But no, it was it was just cool seeing like, you know. His point of view and everything just like, oh, my God, she's dead. Like my mother killed her. But then once you see the ending and find out it was actually him, you're just like mind blown like.
01:20:41
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yeah i I did know that going in, um that it was Norman the whole time, that it was in his mom. Did you know that? well i I did, but like for someone who watched it and had like no knowledge of it whatsoever, like for them to kind of like come to that realization. No, I think that's what's i think that's what um interesting about our like different experiences. ah Because you you got all of this as a reveal. And I went into the whole movie knowing every detail from front to back, I'm pretty sure, ah before watching it. But ah that didn't like hurt the experience, you know, having all of that not like it it was still a like I would say like I gave this like four and a half to five stars. Where would you put it? And you can be honest if it's not quite that much. Hmm. I'd say four stars.
01:21:39
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for so So we land like pretty close together even though we had like very different viewing experiences, I would say. Yeah.
01:21:51
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Nice. We solved it. We solved the case, guys. We made it to the end. We figured it out. um and Yeah, I think that that's the whole movie. My biggest criticism comes at the very end. And it's something I've kind of gotten over a little bit. I've gotten to accept it. But ah the dude summing up Norman Bates and being like, you see, it was his mother. And he loved her the whole time, you see? And it's like,
01:22:19
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I didn't really need it, you know? Yeah. And I don't even think that's how the guy talks, but that's how I'm making him talk in this impression I'm doing. No, that's a good impression of it. Yeah, so he was crazy. He's got loony tunes in his brain. I don't have but like modern co i don't have the the courage to do impressions. I feel like I sound like an idiot. so everybody I love that you do it. No, but like you nailed it. That was a good one.
01:22:54
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But um yeah, I remember when I watched it for the first time, I fell asleep at the end. So once I put it back on, I was like just trying to find the area where I fell asleep. And I'm like, oh, I'm like right at the end. I'm like, what is this scene? Why is he explaining every single thing? Like we get it now. Like you could have just like cut to Norman and finish the movie. Like I hated that part. So.
01:23:22
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Yeah, it's very unnecessary. It feels very like studio-noty, but I don't really know if what Alfred Hitchcock's relationship with ah studio heads was at at this point in his career. I really don't even know when this movie came out in his career. I think we did solve this on the first time we recorded this.
01:23:45
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but I think this will be something to discover when we eventually hopefully do like our Hitchcock watch. That's something I would love to do, at least within like the first like, let's say two years of the podcast. All right, sounds good. I'm game for that. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have any more thoughts on Psycho?
01:24:10
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her No, just if you haven't seen it, go watch it. And if you have seen it and go watch it again, I don't know. Yeah. i think It's worth another watch just so you can like really get
Future Podcast Directions and Social Media Engagement
01:24:27
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into it.
01:24:27
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If you've seen it, thanks for finding this podcast, you know, all these years later or hopefully, you know, I don't know. I don't really know what to hope for you guys, but there's no hope. It's not my job to be hoping for you guys. We are not hopeful. There's no we are hopeless times we're living in folks. Yeah, pretty much.
01:24:51
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Um, but yeah, thanks for listening to our inaugural episode. Uh, coming up, I, I think we got some pretty cool shit. I'm pretty excited for what this podcast is going to offer. Um, we got a misery and green. So.
01:25:08
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I guess we're gonna be like kind of mixing it up a little bit. We're gonna be occasionally like the start of the podcast, we're gonna be doing like ah we both hadn't seen Psycho. We're doing Misery. That's a movie I hadn't seen that Mercedes has seen. Green Room, a movie I've seen that Mercedes hasn't seen. And then we're gonna kind of be mixing it up ah from time to time. After that, we're gonna be going into the whole Chucky franchise.
01:25:36
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I haven't seen anything besides Child's Play. Yeah, so, and I haven't seen Child's Play in years. so yeah I was watching it the other night. You were watching Child's Play? Yeah, the other night. um I've seen that intro more than anything, like horror related, like that cereal bowl scene. Yeah, it's horrific. I love it. The devastation that happens in that kitchen.
01:26:03
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but that's That is such a great serial killer doll to come after him. That's a bad kid. Hey, leave Andy He was the sweetest kid ever.
01:26:18
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I guess I'll learn his fate too. You know, hopefully he got got, you know, they changed the name after three movies. Hopefully that's a sign that Andy finally got his come up ends. We'll have to see though. I have no idea. No spoilers.
01:26:35
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Anyway, anyway. Yes. I'm pretty excited about that. That's going to be a wild ride. And then, yeah, hopefully, you know, we have plans to maybe cover, like, you know, do ah a series of Japanese films or a series of Spanish language films or, you know, other franchises, like maybe the Purge movies, which I have a feeling really fucking suck. I'm not too sure.
01:27:03
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oh have you seen the Have you been purged? I saw the purge, the though first one or I don't even know how many there are. I saw one um and it was okay. That's your boy, Mr. Sinister is in that one.
01:27:28
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Ethan Hawke, but Ghoul, now he's in it. Oh, I was like, wait, what? No, I was thinking of Sinister Gates from Events of the Fold. Oh, yeah. Shred the guitar or something. I mean, we're talking about both Sinister and Events of the Fold in this episode. Yeah. Give me a break here. But I don't remember that he was in there. Okay. Yeah, we'll cover that. Maybe we'll like it. Maybe we'll hate it. You gotta stay tuned to find out. I'm so ready to hate those guys. Let's wait. It's a whole lot longer. We're jumping the gun here. Let's focus on Chucky. We made us some bad movies this early on.
01:28:10
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Yeah, let's focus on Chucky. Yeah, we're going to be hitting Chucky and then we'll probably keep whatever we're doing a surprise until we hit the end of every like series. You and I will know. yeah um We're recording ahead as of right now, but um yeah you and I will be in loop of Chucky, things like Evil Dead, horror classics, full directors, like you name it, we're going to be covering our horror blind spots and maybe eventually we'll cover every horror movie ever made. I don't know if it's possible. We'll be the people to do it. Probably not, but we'll try. Let's just say that's what we're doing. Just tell people. We're covering every horror movie ever made. Okay. There's no way they can disprove it. We'll just say we both died before we got to finish it. Do you know?
01:29:04
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you know or like it ended you know we had a falling out and it just we didn't get to the end of the horror movie list yeah maybe that should let's frame it that way that's our legacy yeah should we just should we do it that instead of framing it as our horror blind spots we frame it as we're watching every horror movie ever made Uh, I feel like I have to say yes, just cause I laughed hysterically right now. We'll do both. Covering everything and includes blind spots. So we'll frame it as both. We'll play with it. We'll tell people what we want. This is our podcast. Don't tell us what to do folks.
01:29:46
Speaker
Exactly. Fuck you. Yeah. Fuck. no I love the i like the hostility right out of the gate. thats so Yeah. We hate our audience. No, for real though. Okay. I'm going to stop. Sorry guys. All right. Um, should we, do we need to do any plugs? I, you know, want to toss a few out there. Got anything going on or any, uh, anything you want to add about the future of the pod?
01:30:12
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Um, I just hope that everyone stays in tune and hopefully made it this far with us. And, um, yeah, if you didn't hear me before you zoned out, uh, merciless aesthetics, you could find me. Um, and yeah, thanks for listening.
01:30:31
Speaker
Hell yeah, you can follow me on Letterbox at Nicholas Ewers, and I'm gonna have new music coming out soon. I'm almost finished with one song, kind of. I think we're closing up the pre-production phase on one song, so I'll keep you guys posted on that. And, hell yeah, thank you guys for listening to the podcast. Yeah, let's go.