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Green Room
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Join Nick and Mercedes as they discuss the 2015 Punk Rockers vs Skinheads horror movie, Green Room. They breakdown the movies most upsetting moments, talk about how they would handle the green room situation, and really get to the bottom of Mercedes newfound love for Big Justin (among other things!)
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Introduction and Humor
00:01:12
Speaker
What's up, but everybody? Thank you for tuning back in with us. We are morbid curiosities. I am mark Mercedes Martinez and with me is my co-host.
00:01:24
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Nicholas Ewers. Very sick, Nicholas Ewers. Very sick and sad, Nicholas Ewers. sick, though. You didn't have to throw that in there. People wouldn't have known. I had to explain myself. They did. They're like, what what is wrong with this familiar voice? Three episodes in, is he okay? Is Nick dying?
00:01:45
Speaker
Now you just sound like every person who like points out like a tiny imperfection, mainly women, ah mainly my friends. They're like, I'm sorry, like my hair's a mess. Or I'm sorry, like I look like this. And it's like, I wasn't even thinking about that. Or that wasn't my primary focus. So everyone was probably just like, cool, what are they going to talk about tonight? Now they're like, a germ is on the podcast.
00:02:11
Speaker
A germ is on the podcast, a very
Discussion of 'Green Room'
00:02:13
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green germ. Speaking of green, we're talking about green room today. Yeah. We're going to spoil the whole thing going forward too. um Yeah. ah To get off of ah the sick thing, I also got a haircut today, you know, so a very nice hair, you know. It looks snazzy. It makes up for you being sick. Yeah. Oh, so ah you're acknowledging I am sick then.
00:02:39
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It's cuz you acknowledged it first. So now I have to just run with it. I have no choice I just gaslit you into thinking I'm sick Yeah, pretty much I think so. Hell yeah. Pretty much. All right. Wonderful. All right. so ah yeah Green Room. This movie was directed by Jeremy Solnier starring Anton Yelchin, Emojin Putes. Jesus Christ. Emojin Putes and Patrick Stewart. Sir Patrick Stewart. Did you know this guy's not American? He's not?
00:03:20
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Spoilers. Wait, did you not know that? I didn't, but. Oh, yeah. He's British. Looking at him. What? Looking at him. Now it makes sense. English. I think that's it. I'm like hope hoping I'm not getting this wrong. This is going to be the dumbest Google search is Patrick Stewart. British. Let me see.
00:03:46
Speaker
I think there have been worse school breaches. He is British. Okay, then see, it's not bad. I want to make sure, you know, he wasn't from like Wales. I don't know what that makes you. if you're You know, I
Comfort Movies and 'Terrifier 2'
00:03:58
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don't know. I get you. They all kind of sound similar, ah you know. but So when he's like speaking in his American accent, he should be sounding like Hello, governor. yeah Right? A bit rude, isn't it? You know, that's like his normal voice, I think. Right. OK. Yeah, I can't picture him like that now. Now I need to listen to his art.
00:04:23
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Oh, that, yeah, I never watched that though. I know he's in there, but I've never watched it. So, okay. Yeah. No, ah he definitely doesn't sound like whatever I just did. yeah I don't know. Tragic. That was the, yeah, my bad. Hell yeah. So green room. Um,
00:04:45
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This was one that you hadn't seen that I picked for you this time around. So, I don't know. ah Let's get your thoughts on it first, I guess.
00:04:57
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So you told me to go
First Impressions of 'Green Room'
00:04:59
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in it blind and just to like even throw this out there. It is so hard for me to watch a new movie on a regular basis like how we're doing for the podcast, because I rewatch literally fucking all of my comfort movies. Like my mom would make fun of me when I was little because I would watch like I'd put on a movie that I would watch like that entire month and I would be skipping to the next scene or my favorite scenes and she's like, you just put this movie on and now you're at the end. like So I like to rewatch a lot of movies, a lot of my favorite movies, or just really good ones. um And like I was telling you earlier today, I keep rewatching Terrifier 2.
00:05:49
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Um, which is funny cause I never thought I'd watch it, but just cause little parts are stuck on my head. Um, but anyway, when did you first watch Terrifier too? Uh,
00:06:01
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um October, I think. good How many times do you think you've watched it since? Oh, fuck. Like be honest.
00:06:13
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10, if not more. Okay. Yeah, but I'm not watching the full movie though. I saw Avengers infinity war in theaters 10 times. So that's not normal. That's love right there. That's dedication.
00:06:30
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I really anytime that movie came into my mind, I was like, fuck, I guess I have to see it. It's so good. Yeah. um Yeah. The clown cafe song was stuck in my head a lot and I was just like singing it today. um So, yeah. um But anyway, like going into this movie, I was just like.
00:06:52
Speaker
All right, I don't I don't know what I'm about to watch. And I think I saw one word or two words, how however, it's like actually written out. But I was like, OK, let me just let me see what this is. But like a few minutes and I was like, what the fuck am I watching? um I should say a few scenes in um this movie. Took me by surprise in a good way and.
00:07:21
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Oh my God, I was like so uneasy throughout almost all of this film. It was a pretty good movie. I i i love that you you recommended it, because i I never even heard of this movie until you brought it up. Really? That's yeah kind of surprising. I feel like it's you know it's not talked about nearly as much as other A24 horror movies. Like when Hereditary came out, I feel like that's when a lot of like mainstream audiences at least really started to pay attention to this production company, this A24 that was in front of everything. But like Green Room, I saw this movie when I like was first like really, really getting into movies back in 2016. I got into this podcast at the time. They were called Slash Filmcast.
Band Life and Nostalgia
00:08:13
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Now they're just the film cast. And Green Room was just one of the movies they reviewed. And I was like,
00:08:20
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You know, I want to get more into movies, so let me check it out. And this was at the time when ah you could go into like Target and buy like Blu-rays and they would have everything. Like I remember that I bought Green Room, Ex Machina, and like there were a couple other ones. And ah oh, the the witch was one of them. But ah what's it called? and um it It was like this movie, I saw it at like a very special time in my life, but um Yeah, it I know I'm like completely diverging from what I first started to say. But it to me, it it always felt like a very well known horror movie. So that is like kind of surprising. But maybe it's just because it was so special to me from this like point in my life. It just it just felt like everybody knew it. I think it's also because I live under a rock ah like
00:09:15
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A lot of times I don't know what movies are coming out or what movies are everyone's favorite. um I also don't have that many people that I talk to that are into horror movies, suspenseful movies um like that because a few people are afraid to watch them. So or they're just not really into it. So it's like.
00:09:41
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I like getting recommendations from other people or if they've watched it and I for some reason haven't watched it, like it's like, wow, you like this? like Okay, cool, let me see what it is what it's about. um But yeah, that that that could be why too. I just don't know a lot of movies, which is why we are here.
00:09:59
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Yeah, i I actually had a pretty difficult time picking um the first movie for you to watch because as people like they may or may not know, we're gonna go headfirst into Chucky after this where we did a couple picks for each other. But now we're gonna go straight into a franchise I've never seen really at all. um So that's gonna be pretty sweet. But um exciting.
00:10:25
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like yeah I had a difficult time like what would be a good first movie for the podcast for you to watch and you like you would pick misery for me I feel like that was kind of like perfect for it was movie I was so excited to watch but I was like what would be like really compliment like just this podcast what we're doing here like our friendship and I was like this movie about a punk band of you know yeah stuck in a green room I was like this is
00:11:03
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If people haven't listened to our psycho episode, like we love like metal. it's like It just felt right-picking, Green Room. I don't know. and I'm so glad you didn't know anything about it. It made me so happy because the movie opens with like the van in the cornfield. Yeah, what the fuck was that?
00:11:23
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yeah and i personally love it i haven't like toured the whole country but i've done like van traveling to like gigs like destinations not playing shows along the whole way but it's like just watching it where it's like okay they crashed like they're out of gas or whatever and you know they the fact that they just had a bike with them i was like that's so smart i've never done that that's so smart but i don't know i was so excited like what was it like for you um when you found out that it was about people in a band like did that excite you know i
00:12:04
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I probably was more excited for you than you were actually getting it, but it was like, I was i don't know. This movie is like so cool and so unique. Yeah, I was just like, oh, we're talking about a band. All right, cool. Like it brought me back to the days where um I mean, we went to the same high school. So ah a lot of the earth, a lot the little local venues that you and your band played at um and the other local bands. I was like, this bring back that this brings back memories.
00:12:41
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So I was pretty hyped to watch this. um And just seeing everyone in the van, I was like, I only know one person on or in this band starting off in this movie. And that was the girl. And the only reason why I knew her was I saw her in a different movie. um But I was just like, all right. Oh, sorry. No, she does look familiar.
00:13:08
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um Allie. Oh, she was in Blink twice, 20th Century Women. um What movie did you see her in? Ah, crap. What is it called? The... Whip It?
00:13:22
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the Yeah, that one. um So she was the only one that I knew, face-wise actually, and i was like that makes it a little more difficult for me to get like engaged in a movie because it's like if I don't see a familiar face, like one that I might actually like. um Sometimes it's hard for me to pay attention to the movie, I guess, as late as that sounds. Yeah. Cause it's like, I don't know who to follow. Like, I don't know who I'm rooting for right now. At times I'm the opposite. Like I was just watching this movie. I guess you could call it horror. It's like a nuclear Holocaust type of movie called threads. And like nobody, at least to me in that movie is recognizable. And I feel like I'm able to just like sink right in. Sometimes like actors distract me a little bit.
00:14:15
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That makes sense. um I don't know. For me, I need a familiar face. I'm weird like that. You had Patrick Stewart. You had Professor x Xavier.
00:14:26
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But I didn't know that until way into the movie. yeah um that But um I
Key Moments in 'Green Room'
00:14:35
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was trying to figure out once I was starting to see their faces more, I was like, oh, baby Peaky Blinders is in here. And then I didn't know his actual name. What is his actual name? It's like Joe Cole. And then his name is Reese in here. I thought that was cool. ah Like Malcolm in the middle.
00:14:52
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Yeah, exactly. That's what I thought. um But yeah, just kind of watching it, it was just like, wow, I. I would not be able to live a life like of a musician because like the shit you guys go through, that's that's a lot. At least like a low level musician. Yeah.
00:15:16
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Yeah, they had a pretty rough too. They, I don't know how deep into their tour they were, but they were at the point where they were out of money and their gig got canceled. And one thing I could really relate to is they were like, they ended up getting a replacement gig where I think it was just them and they were playing in.
00:15:34
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What look like it might have been a Mexican restaurant. I wasn't sure I was like I've I've been there. I've played in like places that shouldn't have bands Playing for whatever reason like bowling alleys are also Mexican restaurants Man ah man Yeah, it I was like, I feel how uncomfortable they are right now, especially on this rewatch. I do you want to say, because like the first time I saw a Green Room, it didn't really stick with me. I really didn't care for it much at all. so it's Really?
00:16:14
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Yeah, it's kind of nice how I like delight. I was hoping that I would enjoy it more this time around and I definitely did. I was like pretty delighted ah to watch it. I think maybe because I was still playing music actively when Green Room came out, I was like, and hair no I And now I'm like, ah, I miss it. It was nice. Yeah. There was um a part where they do like an interview with ah the mohawk guy or whatever. um yeah and it It made me think of a question I wanted to ask you, um and if like I word it wrong, apologies. But um there was a part where he was talking about how they don't have like social media or something to promote their band, and one of them said like they lose the texture. If they turn to social media, like
00:17:08
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I don't know. What did you think about that? um Like what do I think of it like almost philosophically or like as a strategy, like marketing? Like a strategy. Like, do you agree with him? I should say.
00:17:22
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uh kind of yeah there is a novelty to that and it it does work out um in some cases i know this is a band that got started before social media was even a thing but tool wasn't on social media or any kind of streaming for a while and honestly in their case i consider that more of an inconvenience i don't know like what kind of statement they were trying to make but as a fan i was like you know this kind of sucks but um they are a part of a scene that is more about like the the novelty and what i get from like him saying texture like i mean that by like the literal like having something tactile like
00:18:05
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You don't look, you you listen to their CD or their cassette tape or their vinyl. You don't um stream it. You don't buy it online. You go to their shows and you get it from them. You know, again, you could view it as kind of like an inconvenience for their scene. It makes sense because people will seek out the music if they really want to. um And with their scene too, it is the case where they could probably tour, go from show to show to show and pick up a fan base and really last, because like the hardcore music scene that's out here seems like it kind of operates that way. Like people are like on social media, but it seems like if you just
00:18:52
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go into their scene and play a show, you get the support and like ah people will like follow through and they'll buy your stuff, especially like if you're out of town, there's a thing where it's like, oh, we have to like help this band and like get like to where they're going, you know support whatever way we can, buy their CDs. you know i know I'm going on and on and on. and not your question but yeah No, that's why we're here.
00:19:21
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I don't. There is a novelty and I could see myself doing it with like a certain project if I was like. Like if it was molded to kind of be that way, but realistically, like I'm not really like touring or anything, so I probably wouldn't want to do anything like that. And I really wouldn't get me too far personally um with the kind of music that I would like write or play.
00:19:52
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Yeah, i I was just wondering because I feel like everyone like relies so heavily on social media. ah And it's like, okay, but like you know back in the day, that wasn't a thing and you know people would go to shows, they'd discover a new band that they like and like Like you said, like, you know, help them get to their next gig or their next destination by, you know, buying whatever merch or just helping them out. um So like I thought that was like a cool bit that they had in there.
Street Teams and MySpace Era
00:20:26
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ah Have you ever heard of street teams? No.
00:20:32
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That was like a really like old way to promote. I don't know like at what point when it stopped. I think it stopped around the time when I was getting into high school. But when I was in grade school over at the Pearl Room, do you remember that? It was in Mokina. The what was it? The Pearl Room. Why can't I remember that one?
00:20:57
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It closed. um My band, Divide, we played like one of our first shows there. ah No, we played it at Capone's actually, the place like right next to the pro room. So the pro room basically, ah you could go there and there would be, you would sign up for like band street teams and basically you would get flyers and different things from bands that you would have to pass out and all of this stuff. And if you did that, you would end up getting like,
00:21:25
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Free tickets to shows if they were playing at the pro room so nice. There used to like be means like that too where um i That might have been like a big MySpace thing. I'm not too sure how you would organize Yeah Sorry, MySpace was the shit back then. I know MySpace was super cool. My profile was all disturbed and Ew, I'm sorry. I shouldn't say that. Ew, I didn't ew your event sevenfold. I know. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Let's be friends again. My bad.
00:22:00
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no No, dude, I'm sorry. ah Dude, I didn't even know about like MySpace until my cousin, I went to her house and she had like this cool ass punk profile. And I was like, what is this? And, um,
00:22:19
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I think she made me one and then me and her would make dumb little bulletins for each other. We called each other pinky in the brain because her hair was always pink, so I'm like, oh, you're my pinky. In the bulletin, I would write my pinky and she would- She's also really stupid too. No. Well, pinky's really dumb.
00:22:44
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no wish is that your way of calling your friends stupid no this is my this is my close cousin that I love hopefully she's listening um but no like sorry it was Mercedes cousin yeah anyway shrag anyway no um No, I looked up to her a lot when we were ah younger just because like I loved like her style. like the I didn't know all the music she was into, but like yeah. So a lot of my ways, like I started picking up from her. Didn't pick this in her music.
00:23:21
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Yeah, pretty much. Just taking shots at your cousin. Shut up. Well, I took a shot at you, too. Fair enough. Oh, crap. No, her hair was like always pink, so I just had to call her that. But it was funny because she would put like my brain, and then she'd put like a little heart symbol.
00:23:42
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and We had like friends of ours both ask us like separately, like who's pinky or who's who's brain? like I think one guy that she was with um at the time like was like, why are you doing this to me? Like, who is this brain you're talking to? And she's like, dude, that's my cousin. um Yeah. He thinks this is Brian the whole time.
00:24:08
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Probably. Who's Brian? I never thought of that, that's awesome. He's dyslexic. um Yeah, sorry, I went into MySpace. Oh, I miss those days. No, that was good. I feel like that's very like... ah Green Room feels like MySpace era almost, even though it's 2016, you know? I know, right? It just fits.
00:24:35
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Is this movie meant to take place in 2016? Oh, no, I keep saying the wrong year. It's 15. I saw it in 2016. Oh, shoot. Yeah. Oh, well, who cares? Yeah. They'll be okay. This date might also be wrong. Letterboxed is kind of off sometimes. I feel like that might actually be wrong. Got it. I don't know. um ah Man, I just fuck up all the years. It'd be like that, though.
00:24:59
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We haven't recorded misery yet. Oh, shit. I have a chance to get that one, right? Yeah. Watch we'll fuck that up too. It's okay. um What's it called? Yeah, I guess, ah ah was there anything ah that really stood out to you in the plot of this movie?
00:25:20
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ah
00:25:23
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aside from just the band bringing back memories. It was just like- No, I kind of like thrusted that on you, so it's like- No, no, no. Again, full spoilers, but when they're locked in the titular green room.
00:25:42
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um When shit starts to hit the fan, when bodies start getting sliced open and arms start getting mangled and the dogs.
Gory Scenes and Tribute to Anton Yelchin
00:25:58
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I was messaging you and you were you were showing me like the poster for this episode.
00:26:04
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And I saw the arm and I was like, wait, what the fuck? um Is that supposed to happen? And I i tried to like get that image out of my mind too, because like I told you, like I'm really weird with like Gore in that body aspect. So It doesn't fully get sliced up like the picture though. It it doesn't so it's also not a green arm, too That too so so I was I was a little confused about that. Yeah, I was confused cuz During like a movie not green arm Yeah, I know. I'm like i an alien coming up or some shit. But um, yeah No, like sci-fi movie Nick recommended
00:26:46
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Exactly. I was so confused at that point. But like once they once shit starts going down, you see the girl, she has like the knife in her head. I was like, oh, damn, that took a turn. I wasn't expecting. But it was a good pacing. It's so upsetting when the dude tried to like pull the knife to like, maybe she's not dead. Right. That was so gross.
00:27:10
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That might be the most upsetting part of the movie for me. That and the dog neck stuff. i yeah yeah yeah on Just kind of seeing that, I was like, oh yeah, I forgot. I'm watching a horror movie and not a movie about a band. Yeah, it was it was crazy. And then just but all of that tension in there, it's like,
00:27:33
Speaker
Holy shit, when is the part about the arm coming up and then I forgot about it and then once they opened the door to try to like Like what were they doing trading the gun for a phone? um Yeah, and then I was like, oh crap I think I think this is the moment and then his arm came back and it was all sliced. Oh What do you think they did to it?
00:27:59
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That's just what I wanted to know because I'm like trying my hardest to look at his arm. I'm like, okay, one, it's not sliced, but like did they use like wire and just like try to slice it? like Yeah, I was like, did they all just grab his arm and start sawing as much as they can until he got it back in? ah It was so... ah I mean, that arm's ruined and yeah he's the bassist.
00:28:27
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Right? I mean... Is he? Yeah, Anton Yelchin, I think he was the bassist. Rest in peace, Anton Yelchin, too. He passed in real life. That was super sad. Oh, damn. Super tragic. Yeah. That was close. It was like a freak accident, like this car wasn't in park or something, and it pinned him. Yeah, it was sad. Oh my god, that's sad.
00:28:50
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Yeah. he But yeah, that like fucking arm. Yeah. He's nobody's recovering from that. I think you you're losing that, right? Like, yeah, pretty much pointless. I know. Oh, my God. They wrap but duct tape around his sliced arm just to try to, yeah you know, stop the bleeding.
00:29:13
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I'm talking me over you. No, you're good. um but like That was the main part that was like pretty much like on the verge of coming off um that slice. and Instead of me worrying about how much pain he's in from his arm being like sliced open multiple times, I'm just like, wow, that's really going to fucking hurt when they take the tape off his arm. Oh, my God. it was yeah and He lived to have that and tape taken off his arm, too. He did. I was also surprised about that. He was the one that made it through, the bass player.
00:29:54
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Yeah, it's kind of oh wow thanks um can kind of a nice subversion.
00:30:01
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I'm sorry, I had to throw that in there. Yeah, it doesn't hurt any less. We thought the girl, though, was the... The bass player. For like the longest time.
00:30:14
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It seems appropriate, you know, it it really does like you see a woman and you're like, yeah you're like merch girl, like, you know, bassist, maybe. Yeah, somebody's girlfriend. Oh, yeah, just guitar player. What? Yeah, that was so random. And then to make it where you're in a punk band is basically a bassist.
00:30:41
Speaker
Yeah, true. I'm kidding. Were you saying to make it worse? what No, but to make it worse, she's the reason all this shit happened because she left her fucking phone in the room on her charger and she couldn't even be the one to go get it. It was the bass player to go get it, right? Yeah. Yeah. So it's her fault. You see what I mean? By what i I'm saying with women, they fucking ruin everything.
00:31:10
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It did make me laugh. it just There's something about a woman calling another woman a bitch that like always always catches me off guard. and when you take What did you say? You're like, it's all this bitch's fault or something. Yeah, I think that's what I said. like Of course, it's this bitch's fault. What did I say? Yeah, I was just like, oh my God.
00:31:38
Speaker
um I'm probably gonna get like a lot of feminists, like if we have feminists listening to us, like mad at me, but I talk shit about myself all the time. So it's okay. But I talk shit about everybody. To their fish. Do feminists, do they write in? Feminists, write us five stars, yeah by the way. Yeah. Yeah. And then- Equal opportunity. Yeah. And then maybe, you know, we'll censor Mercedes. No, I'm kidding. We won't.
00:32:06
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You just hear you having like a good laugh with yourself. It's kind of like saying a corny joke and then laughing at it two seconds later. It's just dead silence. Yeah. Like, damn, that was a knee slapper, Nick. I know. Thanks, Nick. oh Maybe they should start paying us, you know? They should. Then we'll watch what we say.
00:32:32
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Yeah. We'll get there. We'll get there. Stay tuned. We haven't even said anything that outlandish. Outlander. Nothing racist yet. Do you know? um But this this movie covers a lot of fucked up shit. Yeah. Speaking of, there's ah Nazis in this, white supremacists. What what would be the correct term? Aryan Brotherhood? I think so. That was there that was what I saw when I was like heads. Yeah, that's that's exactly what I saw when I kind of like glanced over the ah
00:33:17
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the description of the movie. And I was like, wait, he told me to go on this blind. Did I just see skinheads on there? And I was like, let me not reread it because I was so tempted to. um But yeah, that that that was the that was the group they went to perform
Character Analysis and Themes
00:33:35
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for. And then their song that they opened up with like really pissed them off, apparently.
00:33:44
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I feel like whatever expectation you must have had for this movie, it couldn't have like lived up to it. The movie's called Green Room. Either you you know immediately that it's talking about a green room or it's just an abstract title. You see the arm that's like chopped up and then you read the word skinhead and it's like, what the fuck do any of these three have in common? Exactly.
00:34:13
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It starts and it's a band. Yeah. Nothing made sense to me watching this. That's why I was like, what the fuck am I watching? Is this even a movie? Yeah. Oh my God. Make this like Nick gas let me into this movie. He gas let this movie into existence.
00:34:34
Speaker
It was so fucking it was it was a roller coaster watching this and movie. be Oh, my God. I enjoyed it. But my God, my God. So I did. I know we haven't like run down the plot. Are there any like key points you want to hit? um ah There's a few I want to hit, but are there any that come to mind for you? Let's hear yours first and then I'll bounce off of them just because I don't want to jump to like the ending first.
00:35:03
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I'll hit a few there's one character in his entirety that I want to talk about his involvement from beginning to end and it's the big the big fucking lug um Who's got the gun and? What does he say he's the guy who gets like disemboweled or whatever you would call it when your stomach gets sliced open? Okay um yesin that's his name he yeah he has a badass line I should have written it down
00:35:35
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um Fuck, fuck, fuck. I wanna look up quotes from Green Room real quick. um But this guy like, I'll look it up in a second, but this guy like, oh, he's one of my favorite parts of the movie, like this time around especially. Like, yeah, his whole presence ah every time he's in the room. yeah I know, I love it. He plays it so well. He's so good at being a dick. I wanna seem to soon be a dick and more things. I don't know if I've seen him in anything before.
00:36:07
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No I haven't either. and No I said he understood the assignment. Yeah and it's like he's getting like shit on regularly and they got him in a choke hold and you're like yeah get this fucking asshole in a choke hold you know or like whatever leg arm bar thing I don't know Jujitsu. Yeah sure. But uh you know I figured you might know it wouldn't surprise me if you knew Jujitsu.
00:36:33
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I, you know, it's funny. Adrian ah is in it and he wants me to start doing it. I want to do boxing more because I've done it in the past. um But like, I don't know. I'm afraid of jujitsu. And I think it's just because you don't wear socks and I'm weird with feet. Me too. i cool I'm not the only one.
00:37:00
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I don't like feet. I don't like, exp but I try to keep my feet very protected. I have a reason. Um, I don't know if you want to, well, I'll just, it's not that I like lost a toe now. I grew back eventually, but because of that, the process of that sucks. So I'm just like, keep my feet covered and protected. And I don't want to, I don't know if to be barefoot for jujitsu. That's like a whole deal breaker for me.
00:37:24
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yeah i yeah i hate it so much like no no i can't um but yeah i have a quote from big justin okay what is right here it's when he eight points the gun and he's like they're called cartridges the bullet is the part that eats your brain if you keep talking shit and the gun only has five cartridges not six because they're big as fuck and only five fit and only five for the cylinder so please shut the fuck up and don't test me I was like oh my god Jeremy Sony that's a good line man and that guy delivered the shit out of it it's so cool i was so disturb hearing that like yeah i I just know that guy I hated him yeah you he
00:38:16
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I mean, was there anything in particular that like bothered you about him or was it just because he was a dick? did you And did you like seeing him eat it? In a very upsetting way because he was alive when he gets sliced.
00:38:33
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That was horrible, seeing that. Like, because I didn't expect that. I was just like, he's probably faking it when he was like, oh, let me know when he when he's out or whatever. I'm like, he's going to fake it and then he's going to turn around and beat the fuck out of this dude and probably kill him. Baby Peaky Blinders. But then like the the one girl, i I don't know any other their names. It's because I don't know their faces or what was it, Amber Imogen?
00:39:03
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Oh, Emojin Poots. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She came up and just 28 weeks later. Oh, I haven't watched that. So that's probably why I don't remember her. Damn. We'll get there one day. We'll get there. we will I wanted to make a pitch possibly. Well, I don't know when 20 years later comes out, but I was like, maybe we can fit in the 20 movies and then like, you know, maybe we can do cover that as a new release, like a rare new release or something.
00:39:33
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I'm down for that because, yeah, I saw that was coming out and I was like, yo, I need to rewatch the first one, watch the rest of them and then watch that one. um I like that plan. This is why you're the brains of the operation here.
00:39:46
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I think, too, there there's we can talk off Mike, but there's a ah strategizing behind that. We can can talk more off Mike, but yeah, okay sounds good. Yeah. um But what were we saying about? Oh, yeah, the girl loved it emoji. And she came up and just slices big Justin's stomach open and I was like, yo, I ah what the fuck did I just watch like?
00:40:16
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Plus you didn't really hear it. Like, I don't know if that was like the intention or whatever, but like. I don't know. I think the audio, everything just like went down and you just hear like the subtle noise of it slicing open. Oh my God. It's very smooth, but gross. Yeah. I do want to say too, you like for not liking big Justin, the way you say his name, you say it like with so much trust. You're like big Justin, you know, like.
00:40:49
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Where the fuck are you getting this trust from? like I'm trying to remember everyone's names and their character names. It feels like you're like, i I don't like him, but I'm in good hands when he's on screen. you know That's what I'm getting. You remembered his name above most characters. I like i looked it up and i was like I was like, oh, it is Big Justin. That's weird that that's the name that you know. No, because I looked it up too. I i was trying to figure out everyone's names. I couldn't fucking remember his name. I hated him. um um Do they even say like... You guys got a connection, you and Big Justin.
00:41:28
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i'm gonna find a way to come back at you for this this is why i can't win fights or arguments because i and i'm not witty because i never know what the fuck to say back to someone wait why do we why do we gotta come back at each other because i i need to one up you in this type of in this argument because fuck big jessin and i'm having that cut open and died I feel like you're just gonna come at all my insecurities. You're just gonna be broken him down as a person. I don't remember. It's gonna come out of nowhere just boop, boop, boop, just daggers. No, it's probably gonna be me trying to say something to you and it's gonna be like. I'm gonna talk over it. That or it's just gonna be a jab at myself and I'm just gonna go cry off Mike. Aww, don't do that. Cry on Mike.
00:42:22
Speaker
No, people don't need to hear me cry. I think they'll like it. That's an ugly cry. and The people who are listening, who have had the unfortunate experience of hearing me cry, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. Like one of my buddies. um There are a lot of people who just hear you cry.
00:42:39
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No, it's because like certain people like I'm just recording recordings of you crying out there. Would you shut up and let me know? No, um one of my buddies came over um recently to get a facial side note. Everyone come get a facial with me. Mercy list aesthetics. But yeah, I was telling him.
00:43:02
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but brilliant I was telling him about the podcast and I remember because we used to work together like I was just having such a shit day getting like shit on by my bosses and I just like cried in front of
Escape Strategy and Cultural Impact
00:43:18
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him and I was like oh my god I'm so sorry I'm like traumatized about that now but um yeah like he's really hyped for the podcast and I'm like oh god I just remembered that right now so yeah sorry but anyone who's heard me cry
00:43:33
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I'm so sorry. that That's not fun. That's so awkward. I'm so sorry. Okay. What were we talking about before then?
00:43:45
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Your love of Big Justin. You know what? Shut the hell up. Anyway, um he gets what's coming to him. He really does. and Wow. I don't know. I kind of disagree with that statement. Does he? Did he kill? He didn't kill that woman. he He was involved in some bad shit. Did he deserve to get his stomach sliced open while he was still alive? Yes, he did.
00:44:12
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Did he? Yes. You're saying yes we're voting yes? Yes. What do the people think? What do you guys think? Yeah guys, rate us five stars and in the five star review tell us what you think. Mercedes is right. Hashtag. Fucking Justin. Nicholas is right. Hashtag justice for Justin.
00:44:41
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um but yeah just ah we gotta get off ja i know you want to talk about him more but we gotta get off him i'm trying to you just keep bringing us back in here maybe you really liked his character i know you did you memorized one of his quotes i didn't I had to look that looked it up. looked it up yeah You were telling a story. it took I was listening to the story, but I had to take that time to do the research. I wasn't prepared.
00:45:13
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no um Sorry that I was sick. oh my god anyway um no just like them being trapped in the room him getting what's coming to him and just like even like the story that um the bass player was trying to like go into and he was trying to give them like a little pep talk to like escape the green room and then they just cut his ass off like nah dude we we gotta to go There was there was actually a quote that baby Peaky Blinder said that I liked um a lot for some reason. I have no idea why he just when they're getting ready to leave, he says, now we won't all live. But I don't know. Maybe we won't all die. I was like, dude, that just resonated with me so much. At that point, I would be like, I remember that exact moment. And I was like, I would opt out of
00:46:09
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just leaving the room, I would be like, I don't, you, you guys go. I mean, they come back pretty quickly. That's true. And there's two less people. I'm pretty sure one or two less people when they come back. That is so true. Oh my God. That, I mean, that his statement was true. Is their course of action the best you think?
00:46:38
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Uh, what course of action would be right in their situation? Um, man. It's difficult. Like if they stay there, they're going to, they're going to die or they'll be like the, they barge through the door or whatever. If they leave, they're going to die because some of them did. So it's like, what is there? What way is the right way?
00:47:10
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They couldn't have gone into the floor earlier.
00:47:16
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And just stood there? I don't know. Did that floor underground area lead anywhere? I don't remember. anything It did. But like the it led into like a ladder going upward and there was like a door um or whatever. But it was locked from the outside. So they would have been screwed either way. yeah Yeah. They were just trying to destroy the wall every which way to try to get out. And they were. Honestly, you could get out of a locked door. How locked was that door? It was a made out of wood.
00:47:48
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I don't know. It looked like a sewer door or something. I could be wrong. Maybe it was hard. I don't know. yeah I don't remember. And I just watched this movie. God damn it. Letting us down. the just Movies are hard. No, I feel like you watch a shit ton of movies. So I get you. Yeah. I got to watch more too this weekend. God damn it. Yeah. Hell yeah.
00:48:14
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Life is so hard. Damn. You know, we're talking about movies. Watching movies. Like, what the fuck are we listening in? Like, oh, my God. Oh, I don't know it. I'm just playing. No, he's not. No, I'm kidding. I enjoy doing this. This is my piece. You heard about my fucking shit date. Yeah. Like, no, it's a good outlet, like.
00:48:42
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Every person I talked to about this, they were like, dude, that's so awesome. like You should definitely do it. Or um the posts that I made like coming soon to a theater near you, everyone like hit me up and they're like, a podcast? I'm like, yeah. And they're like, wait, what is it about? um And I said, horror movies, they're like, why am I not surprised? Or I would expect nothing less. I'm like, fuck yeah.
00:49:07
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I know it's fucking ah the most special kind of movie I don't know why it like yeah it just it feels so personal it feels so like like you're a part of a community I don't know why even though horror is like so widely popular I feel like it's more popular now than it's ever been it still feels like it's like yeah I think it's because we come from like at least like well you were pretty your parents were pretty open with you watching horror my mom was my dad didn't like it but he was never really there when I was watching it he was always working so what age were you like allowed to watch horror yeah way before nine tim that's pretty young
00:50:04
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Yeah, whoever had it on, like I was watching it. So I was traumatized from a young age, but you got to start them off young. My nephews were younger. They were watching them at like one, two years old.
00:50:19
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Geez, yeah, there were little, little kids. Like when I was seeing Terrifier 3, a lot of little kids. It was a crazy amount. Yeah, i was like I was fucking terrified. These kids didn't seem terrified at all. I know. They they were all having a good time there.
00:50:36
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Yeah, it was, you know, it it was wacky, you know, dogs and cats living together, you know, I don't know. It wild, but like- I feel like the younger generation is like catching onto or wanting to watch horror more. That's- I love it. Art the Clown is probably just like super popular on TikTok too, I assume. That too. That too.
00:50:59
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Um, but yeah, for, for me, I didn't start watching horror movies until I was in like seventh grade. And my first like legit horror movie was in a movie theater. Um, cause I was like in a super like conservative Christian household where my parents were like, horror movies are evil. They're the embodiment of evil. It was like,
00:51:23
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awful but my friends and I ironically when we were done getting confirmation hours like ah we snuck off from whatever paper drive or whatever we we're working on went to the movie theater and snuck in we bought tickets I think to see Delta farce the um Blue Collar Comedy, ah Larry the Cable Guy, like war movie. Yeah. And we snuck in to see 28 Weeks Later was my first movie ever in theaters. And I was fucked um and ever and in theaters both at the same time. And it was the scariest thing in my entire fucking life. That movie is intense. Yes.
00:52:06
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Yeah, I was terrified. I like couldn't sleep for weeks because I was like, if I sleep and a zombie outbreak happens, they're fast as fuck. like i And they're everywhere. I was like, I'm dead. I have to stay awake. And I was like too afraid to go to sleep for weeks. And I didn't tell any of my friends that who I had seen the movie with because we were all in like seventh grade and I was too old to be afraid.
00:52:36
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movies And it was like, it was wild. This is like the only time I've like shared this on mic. Maybe you're like one of the only people I've actually told this story to. These people still don't even know like to this day. Maybe I should have saved her for 20 weeks later, but it's okay. It's like, what is it? A prelude to it. um But I think that's why horror is so special to people like us.
00:53:05
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We have that like young bond where it's like... yeah Exactly. um Yeah, I really don't know how old I was when I watched it, but I just remember um my brother loved the movie. ah Halloween and it scared the shit out of me because of the fucking theme song and My mom would be watching it on AMC whenever it was on ah in October and then She didn't care if I watched it. So I watched like little parts of it, but I was always too scared and then I just remember one year I'm like I
00:53:50
Speaker
I need to fucking get over my fear of Michael Myers and the fact that I have a dream about him killing me every year. So I was like, I'm going to watch this damn movie until I'm not afraid anymore. And, you know, it took some time. A lot of long nights where I couldn't fall asleep. But now that's my favorite movie. I got a tattoo of this guy at my leg. um Oh, yeah.
00:54:16
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But yeah, like it's such a it's such a good memory for me just to like watch it, because then I remember one day, I was like, mom, I think we should buy all the Halloween movies and just watch them. She's like, OK. I'm like, really? OK, cool. And ah we watched them all the time. um And we would like analyze them. And then when my nephews came along, she let them watch them.
00:54:44
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And my brother didn't care. And it was just funny because you'd hear them playing around on their little big wheels or whatever and like did did did did did did did did they're just singing along with the song. I'm like, all right, cool. So it was like a family matter for us. um But yeah, Michael Myers rules. Fuck anyone who thinks otherwise.
00:55:05
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Yeah, he's my favorite of the slashers. I've heard people say he's the most boring or whatever. Doug and I have this argument. Doug thinks Michael Myers is the worst of the slashers. Go check out these guys got juice podcast. You can hear me and Doug. We have three Halloween episodes, I think two are Rob Zombie. One is Halloween. And so you can hear plenty of fucking Michael Myers talk on that podcast too. We have, I've given up fighting for Michael.
00:55:36
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No, i fear we do not need to fight for Michael. Michael lives. They've like done him so dirty. I just can't like, I'm like, maybe they should stop making these guys.
Personal Horror Movie Experiences
00:55:50
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Maybe we should, maybe we should just be okay with the good Halloween movies we have and not try. No, like I remember too, one guy told me like,
00:56:04
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I forgot what it was, like word for word, but I just remember him like liking Jason from Friday the 13th more and was like, look at Jason. He has combat boots. He has a jacket or whatever. He has jeans. What the fuck is Michael wearing? i'm like What does that have to do with anything? like Jason's lame. it's like yeah ah Coming from someone who's never really seen a Friday of the 13th movie, I've like only seen the remake in Freddy vs. Jason. i meannna yeah I feel pretty confident in saying Jason's lame. Freddy vs. Jason is good.
00:56:44
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I like it. It has a badass soundtrack. I haven't seen it since I was in high school or grade school maybe. I'm excited to eventually revisit that for the pod though.
00:56:57
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Yeah, it'll be fun. yeah Jason's name. um Michael, there's there's something about like his brute strength. Michael gave me nightmares, um specifically after actually seeing the Rob Zombie remake in theaters, because that was the second horror movie I saw in theaters. And that portrayal of Michael is like pretty upsetting I had seen the first Halloween but I had never I mean the Rob Zombie Michael Myers is like pretty brutal and that was the second Halloween movie I had seen in general and
00:57:36
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it it wasn't like I was afraid of Michael to the point like 28 weeks later but I just kept having dreams about Michael and it was like he was following me and they were like terrifying dreams but I would wake up kind of excited and then when I saw the 2018 David Gordon Green remake I had ah Michael Myers dream that night and it was like ah so scary and he just would not stop following me and it was like the very end I was at a gas station about to steal someone's car and he goes to stab me and I like grabbed his knife with my hand and I was like this is where I die and then I woke up and
00:58:19
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And I was like, that was fucking crazy. But yeah, Michael is like so special to me. He's like better than anyone else. Even if I watch like Hellraiser or whatever, and I'm like, oh, Hellraiser has like the best movies. It's like Michael's always going to be the man for me. Yeah, it's Michael Myers and Chuckie. Those are my top two.
00:58:44
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I've got a Chucky story I'm going to save for that little series of episodes, specifically related to the seed of Chucky. I'll probably tell it on the Child's Play episode though, but ok its it's a fucking ridiculous story that's like so shameful. um Oh my God. yeah that is such That is such a trippy teaser. like okay Everyone, we got to stay tuned for that. Make sure you stay tuned for the Child's Play episodes.
00:59:14
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Yeah. Child's Play or Seed of Chucky. You know, one of those things. Just stay for all of it. just Listen to all of them. I'll tell little bits of that the story on each episode and it'll be your guys job to edit it out and piece the whole story together so you can listen to it. That's a lie. i might never ok no I'm I'm not going to remember it what happened. I'll most likely tell it on the Child's Play episode just because I'm too excited and i'm I'm telling stories on the wrong episodes. It's okay. We both are. like We talked about concerts for Psycho when we should have talked about it on here.
00:59:56
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Yeah. ah Good point. That is a very good point. Hey, you know, you just can't let the dogs off the leash. This is what you get. Oh, my God, though. but Speaking of dogs. that Yeah. The ending of this movie when like I thought the dog was going to die. Didn't he give it like a shot or something? ah right um i I don't remember. I know they were using feedback to like fuck with the dogs a couple of times.
01:00:26
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his owner like I saw him like well I don't know but um yeah I thought like the dog was gonna like end up dying in the woods cuz he like got away he ran away he's just they kept cutting back to this dog on the road i and I know I like that they kept cutting back to the dog I know. And I'm just like, what's going to happen to this dog? Like, what's going to happen? And buy a car just that's what I thought. Yeah, that's what I thought was going to happen. And I thought the movie was going to be mean. Yes. This was a fucked up movie. And all horror movies are relentlessly mean to the audience. Not all of them, but I didn't. I'd say this movie likes its audience. yeah But I was misled a lot with this movie, I'm just saying. And then the end where the dog like comes up and they're getting ready to like you know protect themselves, um the two ah survivors, and then the dog just goes, finds its owner on the ground, just lays there next to him and I'm like,
01:01:28
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This fucking dog, while my dog, who I can't stand, is like snoring next to me, just like sleeping as if she worked all day. And I'm like this fucking dog. Like it was full circle for me. Yeah, it's like, would you murder teenagers for me? You asked your dog that, right? she i will I did. I wanted to. she she wouldn't she wouldn't She wouldn't protect me at all. Like she.
01:01:59
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Let me not talk about my dog. That's what those dogs were doing was protecting. Yeah. Or at least obeying their, their master. Um, no, my dog sucks. Everyone loves her, but they don't know what the real her only I do. I can see the real her inside that you're talking about when she jumped on me, I was like,
01:02:27
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i I see it. You know, she almost knocked me over. I was like, this dog is a handful. Oh, she's so much worse than that. Yeah, she's she's like half. She's pretty much my size. Like if I pick her up and like try to hug her, she her face is by my face. Like if I do run one wrong move, she can essentially bite my face off. and Just do jujitsu with your dog.
01:02:53
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ah damn it and i got a put her in then um I know oh my god, that'd be great shitter and Kill your dog. It's like how I was practicing jujitsu My friend who helped me get her would Hate me for the rest of my life if I did jujitsu on her hopefully she doesn't listen this podcast No, she's listening. um or I don't know. She says she wants to listen, but she triple quadruple books herself for like literally everything. So maybe she forgot about me. Who knows? Damn. Well, if you're listening, you're a good friend. If you're not, you'll never know how bad of a friend you are. Yeah. I love you. She's not listening. She can't hear it. Wear your sunscreen, damn it.
01:03:39
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Yeah. Side note, I was yelling at her about wearing sunscreen today. So yeah, everyone wear your sunscreen. It's important. These skinheads probably didn't wear sunscreen a day in their life. They should. Probably not. I'm so bad with sunscreen. It's fucking crazy. I like, I just don't care. That should be the one thing that you should care about. um I thought you were going to say that should be the one thing that you get is skin cancer.
01:04:06
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Why would I You tell me. I know I'm a mean person, but I'm not that mean. You're not a mean person. Yeah. Everyone says that. But then once they find out the true me, they find out how mean I am. And then I'm like, I told you. All right. Skinheads. Wow. We didn't know what to say. Anyway, yes, skinheads.
01:04:32
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No, was I feel like we're getting so far away from the movie. No, my bad, my bad. All right. I mean, it's it's not really like a plotty movie. It's just like things kind of happen one after another after another. It's just like a single location horror film, you know? it yeah It really did kind of make me feel like I was um at a show
Live Show Atmosphere and Saulnier's Films
01:04:57
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again. I was like, yeah, you do kind of spend a lot of fucking time at one location, don't you?
01:05:03
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It's like they do really capture what it's like to be at a show, a local show, be it yeah just daylight and you're there all day. I did think Patrick Stewart was a little generous when the show ended where he was like, all right, Sunday free show drinks are free from like two to four. It's like, whoa, dude. Yeah, that was overly generous.
01:05:25
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Yeah, well, that's what happens when you're committing a crime. I know. The crime of murder.
01:05:32
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ah Just because you brought up daylight too, it was just, it reminded me of like the strangers because I forgot what I was watching, but like it was a review of that movie and they were talking about the ending where they're like, you know, it's daylight and the three killers are still there and you know, they're about to kill a couple.
01:05:54
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And it just makes you feel so uneasy because it's daylight and that's when you typically feel safer. And once they were finally leaving the ah the venue and it was daylight, I was like, oh shit, it's finally daylight, but they're not safe so yet. Like they still, they could still get killed by these people. like i There was not a moment in this movie once shit hit the fan where I was not on the edge of my seat. like I did not know what to expect with this movie.
01:06:26
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yeah it's pretty subversive too you don't really expect that like they're they basically pick off everybody there's a character who i mean he joins the team then immediately he's gone and you're like what the fuck like yeah why would you do that to us and it's like oh man it's just Yeah, this movie, it's just, it's so unique and special. i'm I'm glad that something like this exists in like the horror world. And it like, it feels so cool that it's like so relatable to like, you know, the scene that we kind of grew up like going to shows in a little bit. It has the same vibe, just less racism, you know, but it like,
01:07:19
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I don't know. I think it's... this movie's like really solid. You haven't seen any of, uh, Jeremy Solner's other movies, uh, Blue Ruin, uh, Hold the Dark, and, uh, Rebel Bridge? I have not even heard of those movies until you named them off right now.
01:07:39
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Blue ruin is really good. So is rebel Ridge. I haven't seen hold the dark, but, um, rebel Ridge is a real good, um, like Marine versus corrupt police department in a small town type of movie. Uh, what's it called in blue ruin is like.
01:08:00
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kind of like no country for old men. If like the main character kind of sucked at like what he was doing. And the main character is actually played by Macon Blair. The guy who is, uh, he was one of the security guards, the guy who's pretty much like pretty apologetic and was like, Oh, I wouldn't have, I didn't know what was going on. You know what I mean? Who they'd like get away in the forest at the end. Okay. Okay.
01:08:30
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Yeah, he's the lead of ah Blue Ruin. I think he might have, I don't know if he co-wrote this. He's worked with Jeremy Silnier multiple times though. He's a producer on this movie. Yeah, not a writer though. Jeremy Silnier has the sole writing credit on this movie.
01:08:50
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Yeah. And he actually, Sonya actually um grew up in like the punk scene. I don't know if he toured like that, but I know he had friends who toured. And I think this is loosely based on ah some of his friends. Yeah. So I ah feel like you can tell it's made by somebody who comes from that world. It feels like it was made with like love and care for this world.
01:09:15
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and some wed twisted ideas to throw in there as well. yeah Any twisted ideas you want to point out or any any key moments or anything in the movie?
01:09:31
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Like the dog and the neck, the shattering of the neck from the dog. ah it's That is the hardest part for me to watch. Because the guy, he's living throughout all of that. He's alive and it seems like he stays alive throughout all a lot of it. And I don't like suffering while characters are alive. And then the other character, Reese, he gets like stabbed a bunch.
01:09:59
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Yeah, oh my god. Oh, I just see baby piggy blinders. oh Yeah, he gets stabbed a bunch and then they leave him alive to bleed out because they're like a later time of death is better.
01:10:12
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ah so and so Oh man, these guys are just ruthless. Oh, and then just one of the nicest touches is um at the end when they're confronting the last two guys alive, Patrick Stewart and one of his cronies and Anton Yelchin as he's holding the gun in and was like,
01:10:33
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it's funny you're a lot scarier when it was night yeah in the dark or something like that and then Patrick Stewart right he knows they're done so he's like fuck it I'm just gonna start walking away and like try to give myself distance and time to pull out a gun and fire back I mean it's a vain attempt but he's like Fuck it. I'm dead. This is I what else have I got to lose? Let me at least try to get distance and get a gun out to fire back and I mean he tries then gets shot in the head and spurts oh It's so cartoonish the way they kill him off. I was like Sir Patrick Stewart mister, you know, hello governor himself is like the disrespect the cartoonish blood squirt yeah that was weird yeah yeah and he just gets lit up from the back too it's like such a you know
01:11:39
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lackluster way to go out for like the big boss. It's kind of like what I was saying almost in the Psycho episode, like very like unflattering like ways like bodies fall. like he's He dies in a very unflattering way for someone that holds himself so dignified throughout the movie. and I think it's yeah appropriate because he's a skinhead.
01:12:05
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Yeah, I thought his death was going to be a little more climactic than what it was. Or flashy kind of. Yeah, like I was happy that he met his end, but yeah, I thought it was going to be a little more something since he was such an asshole. Did you want more?
01:12:28
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I did want more. I was let down. The one time in this movie I wanted more, they didn't give me more. It was rude. I really ah really enjoyed how subdued that was. It felt very natural, kind of, the the way his death put it, at least for me. But I get what you mean, though, like wanting people to get their comeuppance, wanting like a bit more spectacle to it. It can really go in like either direction.
01:12:59
Speaker
Yeah, because everybody, ah all their friends died in some spectacular way. And it's like, you kind of want to see him bite it in a similar way. Like maybe a dog rips his throat out or something, or they, you know, pulling in glorious bastards and scalp him. Ooh, that would have been badass. Yeah. It would have been hard too. Cause he has no hair to hold. They would have gotten creative if they tried.
01:13:29
Speaker
Yeah, at least I think they'd say, do you hold it by the hair when you, I don't know. I hope to never be scalped. That sounds awful. It does. Even the sound effects when they do that in the movie, it was gross. Like there was like one part where I think ah Brad Pitt was talking to one of his soldiers team, whatever, while he's like mid scalping.
01:13:53
Speaker
One of the guys and like they're just having like a casual conversation while you see him like doing his thing. I'm like, oh my God. I want to watch that movie now. It's long as hell, but it is, but I want to watch it now.
01:14:09
Speaker
I like almost bought it on 4k. I didn't know it sold out at Walmart. I like that happens too often now where I'm like, I want to buy this one and I don't and I get something else. Cause I'm like, Oh, this movie is not going to go out of print. And then it just does. I'm like, everything goes out of print. Should've got that, but I got Jackie Brown, you know, maybe I'll be able to get the two kill bills. Hmm.
01:14:33
Speaker
I already have Reservoir Dogs, not on 4K Steelbook yet though. This movie, I want to get the 4K for this one. It's expensive. It's like 45 bucks, I think. I might have to buy it internationally because it's probably going to go out of print here if what I'm seeing is an American release.
Visual Quality and Final Thoughts
01:14:56
Speaker
But this movie looks fucking gorgeous. I don't know what kind of camera it was shot on, but it Just, it looks great. This is something where I was like, this is one of the few like modern movies where I would just, I want to see this in the most pristine way possible just because I love the look of this thing. um So I might consider getting it on 4K. A24, send me a copy, you know, I'll review it on here. I will review 4Ks if you guys fucking send in the copies, you know, I'll i'll do a whole spiel about it.
01:15:31
Speaker
They're super expensive. I'll follow their episode. It'd be great. Hell yeah. Send us free shit. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don't know. Is there anything else in Green Room? Any other thoughts or, you know, ideas to discuss? Not really. It was just a movie that I feel like I want to rewatch again.
01:15:59
Speaker
but I need to give myself some time before I rewatch it. Like there are some movies that I'm like, okay, that was like a one and done thing. And like throughout like certain scenes of my, I don't think I can watch this again, but I actually do want to rewatch it. So yeah, just good choice. It kind of makes me wish I re-picked my first choice for you. Really? Why? I don't know. I think this just like is a Really good movie. It's a fucked up movie, but they're they're two different categories like they can't be put in the same category green room and misery, but Yeah, stay tuned for misery everyone Yeah, well misery will come out before this
01:16:45
Speaker
Oh, shit. Stay tuned for Green Room, everyone. Well, they would have listened to Green Room. You know what? Shut up. Stay tuned for Chucky. Yeah. and No, everybody heard Misery. They all loved it. It's their favorite episode. They all told their grandparents about how cool it was. And their grandparents were like, what's a podcast? I don't know. Something that was a bad old person and impersonation.
01:17:14
Speaker
um but yeah ah I mean we can do like in between these franchises you know do a couple more picks and then hop into the next thing and then keep doing that we'll have to fit in the 28 weeks and days if we want to do like the years thing we were talking about we'll we'll look at we'll talk about that though yeah we'll get something figured out for that but um What's it called? Uh, yeah, we can always, you know, this isn't our last chance to do movie picks. Plus like, yeah, we got all this Chucky, you know? I know it's gonna be fucking fun. I know. And then what's going to come after Chucky? I won't spoil it. We'll save that for the end, you know? What, what, what did we say was going to be after Chucky? We won't say it on mic. I know, but I can't remember. Like.
01:18:08
Speaker
Crap. My memory is trash. As you just heard me mess up all the episode sequences. No. Well, we're recording them out of order. I'm so old. Because, spoilers guys, you heard the Psycho episode, we recorded that and we recorded it. We're doing the same thing for Misery. Yeah.
01:18:27
Speaker
It's going to be great. Everyone's going to love it. That's why I'm messing it up. Okay. I was like, why am I messing this up so much? Okay. Okay. Yeah. Everyone stay tuned. Just, just, just be on this ride with us. It's going to be fun.
01:18:39
Speaker
Yeah, these first three episodes are us like, you know, I feel like we've got our footing, but we're, you know, they're our pilot episodes. People, they're gonna, they're gonna get it. Once we're into Chucky and Child's Play, we're gonna be fucking cruising though. I can feel it already. I did want to say one last thing about Green Room. Before I forget, I'd put it in my review on Letterboxd. Follow me on Letterboxd at Nicholas Ewers.
01:19:05
Speaker
um I had seen, well, obviously I'd seen it, I've said that a couple of times, but like, even though I had seen this movie before and I knew basically each event, maybe not exactly how they played out, but I knew each beat, I fucking was still on the edge of my seat watching this thing. I, like, I... moments that I knew were in the movie, I still didn't see coming. This is just a, it's a very entertaining movie. It plays well. It just, it really does. If you haven't seen it and you're listening this far, um we'll be spoiled the whole thing for you. Right.
01:19:48
Speaker
Yeah, but you should go check it out. Like watch it with some friends or something invite people over. This feels like a good like party movie almost like if you're going to throw on a horror movie while people are over like smoking or drinking or whatever the kids do these days, you know, smoking the cigarettes, watching movies, you know, like all the cool kids do. wacky tobacco Yeah, just just watch it. Watch it. Hopefully you guys will. If you haven't seen these movies that we cover, you watch it prior to our episode, because then you can like argue with us or agree with us while we debate on these movies.
01:20:32
Speaker
hit us up on our socials and tell us that we're wrong. you know Tell us that Nick is wrong and that i my brain is not trash because I really think it is now.
01:20:45
Speaker
um yeah Tweet at Mercedes, just be like Mercedes was right, hashtag big Justin. you know I hate you. I hate you so much. Just let it die, man. Let that joke die. You you only hate me because your love is all given to Justin. You know? Big Justin.
01:21:15
Speaker
I have nothing to say to that because I don't know what to say to that. I have no love for him and you're pissing me off. Your husband's going to hear this and he's going to be like, who's Justin? Do we need to have a talk? Has this gotten out of hand? Probably. You're saying stop watching Green Room. Stop watching these movies. Who the fuck is Justin? You edit only the scenes of Justin into a six hour clip that you What's worse is like when I show him a movie where I'm like, oh, my God, this movie is funny or this is a really good movie. You have to watch it. He will remember the weirdest fucking scenes from that movie and quote it. And I'm just like, out of all the things of this good ass movie, you remember that like, oh, my God. So, yeah, that that probably would happen here. and Do you have any examples of him? It's cool if you don't, but.
01:22:10
Speaker
ah I'll think of one eventually and watch it's gonna happen like five seconds after we stop recording but I'll think of one. Stay tuned. It'll probably come up if we talk about a specific movie where something happened or that you guys have watched together. cover movie Yeah like crap. Yeah it's gonna come up one day. Stay tuned everyone.
01:22:34
Speaker
Yeah. Um, any final thoughts for the people anywhere they can find you any, you know, you just, any parks you like to hang out at any. Streets you like to walk down. I don't want people to fucking find me. I know. what the hel man I try to avoid people as much as possible. what's ah Like I told you, it's hard for me to hang out with people. I hate hanging out with people sometimes because I'm like,
01:23:06
Speaker
I don't want to leave my home. I put so much time and effort into my home and I'm always tired. Like, I don't want to leave. And then I make plans with someone and the day comes, I'm like, fuck, how do I get out of this? Right now, I only hang out with people via podcast.
Podcasting and Future Episodes
01:23:23
Speaker
Yeah, pretty much. Pretty so fucking much. Someone hits you up like, hey, do you want to hang out this weekend? You're like, do you want to start a podcast?
01:23:33
Speaker
Like I need once in advance, unless you want to talk about a podcast, then yes, like let's get down to it. Yeah. Well, uh, yeah, you can find me on letterbox at Nicholas Ewers. Check out these guys got juice podcast forgot to plug us in the psycho episode. Feel bad about that. Um, cause I referenced the podcast like three times and never say the name. And I'm like, Oh, Doug is going to think I'm mad at him or I was mad at him when we recorded those or something. You know, I thought about that too, when we were done, I was like, fuck, I don't think he brought, brought that up.
01:24:10
Speaker
Yeah, I like kept saying my other podcast or another podcast and I was listening. I'm like, I should have said these guys got juice. Like I had three opportunities to plug the podcast and didn't. So these guys got juice. Go check us out. This is my second plug for us in this pod. Um, yeah, it, uh, we're going to be covering presence coming up. We're going to be doing a review of that. We might do a review of companion. Um, we're still figuring out the February release schedule and.
01:24:39
Speaker
We kind of took ah December off a little bit. We both had some stuff going on. But yeah, go check out ah our podcast over there too. If you want to hear boys talk movies.
01:24:52
Speaker
You want to go, where the men are. No, I'm kidding. You want to hear us talk about Wicked. And for three hours and nine minutes while I sing Defying Gravity multiple times. Oh my God. Go check out these guys got geese.
01:25:09
Speaker
Yeah, check them out. They're a good team. This is the more manly podcast. Yeah, the more manly podcast. Think about metal. You know, Pantera.
01:25:21
Speaker
Yeah, I bring nothing but weirdness to this podcast, so yeah. We both do. I've talked too much on this podcast. I also apologize. And I'm super weird. I'm super weird. But ah yeah, if you need a facial, find me, Instagram, mercyless aesthetics. That is M-E-R-C-Y-L-E-S-S aesthetics. And yeah, that's all I got for you guys.
01:25:44
Speaker
Hell yeah guys, we've been MorbidCuriousities and tune in next week, I guess, for, uh, Child's Play. It'll be our- Ooh, I'm excited. It's the only one I've seen so far, so... After this, I just don't know what to fucking expect after the first Child's Play, so... Hell yeah, guys. Fucking... Stay tuned for Child's Play. Yeah.