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38. Manifestation: A Comprehensive Discussion

E38 · Soul Pod: The Podcast
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On the heels of last week’s Sad Pod, we’re here to raise the vibe with a deep dive into the concept of manifestation as we understand it.

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Hosts: Christina Bell & Molly Wilde

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Discovering Garbage Humans Jewelry on TikTok

00:00:24
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Okay. That I didn't tell you about it, but okay um it's a... She must... Okay. Her name... Her her business name is Garbage Humans, I believe.
00:00:38
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And I ordered earrings from her back around the pandemic, I believe, when i first when I first got on TikTok. And I'm pretty sure that's where I first saw her was on TikTok. Okay. And I ordered like three, two or three pairs of earrings from her. Mm-hmm.
00:00:53
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And then the other day, like, you know, like maybe a month ago now, I opened up TikTok and her, you know, a video of hers was like the first thing that popped up. And she was showing this ring and she has so some sort of etching machine that etches like words into it. Because it's like a like a personalizer, like a description. Yeah. Yeah. so it's like a flat.
00:01:18
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It's a very smooth metal ring. And it's, I think that they call these signet rings, but the saying that is inscribed, I don't know if you caught it because I was trying to really see it. Okay.
00:01:31
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It says, i hate it here.
00:01:41
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and she was so geeked because there's some little weird quirk that when she has her etching machine thing like set you know there's like settings right like like little whatevers and there's she doesn't know what what it is that causes this but once in a while it'll start making the etchings look like rainbow it's really weird like it like it has a like if you look at it at a certain angle in the light it's like rainbow otherwise like straight on it just looks like
00:02:16
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dark gray or something but like it's hard to get the rainbow i could keep trying to find it and it's like it's like a like iridescent Yeah. Okay. It's just really hard. And then in her video, you could see it. So she was all geeked about it She's like, I don't know what's going on, you guys, but that rainbow stuff is

Discussion on Good Friday and Holiday Confusions

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happening again. And I'm not going to change the settings. She goes, I'm just going to make 30 rings of every size while I still have the rainbow setting on there before I screw it up. And so she like made like a bunch of rings and I was like, hell yeah, dude, I'm all about it. I'm going to order a ring.
00:02:51
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So it ah and it has the rainbow. It's just really hard to see it in most light. So it's like right now i can actually see it, which is kind of rare. But to I just thought it was so fucking funny. It says, I hate it here.
00:03:07
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that's so good. so is that one that she offered or one that you like specific? like No, that's all that's requested. No, that's what they all were going to say was I hate it here.
00:03:20
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I just had to turn off my, I had to like do the do not disturb on my phone again. Because of course the moment that we try to start recording is when everybody is like, notifications!
00:03:31
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Yeah. but phone blowing up. Yeah, well because everybody's probably getting on Marco like cracking up at our crazy shit. Actually there was only one Marco ah notification before I hit Do not disturb. ah It was texts.
00:03:47
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But I am not looking at it anymore because i am trying to focus. I know. But hey, you said you didn't work tomorrow. Neither do I. Yeah, I'm not working tomorrow, but that doesn't mean that I'm not tired.
00:04:00
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No, I know. I'm extremely fucking tired. You are working, right, tomorrow? No, no. You're not working. It's Good Friday tomorrow. Why do you get Good Friday off?
00:04:11
Speaker
It's always... There's no school on Good Friday ever. There never has been.

Triggered by a Podcast Episode: Self-Reflection and Vulnerability

00:04:16
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Not in my life. whatever I've never gone to a school that took good Friday off that's bizarre because for me where I grew up it was always good Friday and then the whole week after Easter and it was like that was what they considered spring break but they used to call it Easter break when I was growing up we never got that then they changed very very separation of church and state yeah so then um it was even that way when I started at my job and um
00:04:48
Speaker
Then eventually they just took away the week after Easter and made it like a spring break. But it was the first week of April because Easter, the date of Easter changes all the time. Right. So they just wanted to keep things consistent, I guess, and like have it just always be the first week of April.
00:05:04
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Right. But for some freaking reason this year, they changed it to the last week of March, which I'm just like. but the Where are they getting this logic from? I don't understand it. I don't know.
00:05:17
Speaker
Yeah. Any Hooters. You know. You know. Anyway. What the fuck are we talking about, dude? have so many things to say. I know. I'm sure you do. Oh my god. But like what the fuck are we talking about today? We're not getting to it yet because I have things to say first. Oh okay.
00:05:36
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Unrelated things. say Not completely irrelevant things because it ties in but I just need to say like last week's episode which is the one we just released a couple days ago from the time that we're recorded recording right now it It honestly, it kind of triggered a bit of a dark night of the soul for me.
00:06:00
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Really? ah i mean, you saw what I shared on Marco earlier this afternoon, i assume. Yeah. and that's just like a very, that was a very short, like Cliff's notes of like what I've been feeling and what I've shared in therapy this week and cried about to my friend that I work with.
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um
00:06:29
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last week when we talked about discipline like I had to not only sit and express all of that I had to sit and rec like edit and listen myself say all the things that I said right on
00:06:49
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and it was it was a fucking challenge It was a fucking challenge. And it's not because I was just like, oh, why did I say these things? But it was just like, oh, God, the reality of the things that I feel.
00:07:01
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You know? Right. It just sort of compounded on itself.
00:07:09
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So, if you listened to that episode, thank you hearing hearing me and I wanted to say it's i've I've come to a place of realizing like just how much I need help.
00:07:34
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um And I'm getting he Like i um I talk about being in therapy. Like um I have lots of friends. i have a good support system. um But having it doesn't mean it's being used necessarily. Right.
00:07:49
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And that's my that's my problem with, like, not just, like, this instance, but, like, throughou throughout my life, it's been an issue for me to
00:08:01
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not express when things are actually really not good. And it's almost, like, to the point that I, like, don't even realize that I'm doing it, you know? Yeah.
00:08:19
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And that's like what I've had to come to the realization of in this past week.
00:08:28
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I want to say that I am super fucking proud of you for getting on Marco and and opening up like that. Thank you.
00:08:41
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So I, yeah, that's why I wanted to address it after the way that the episode played out last week and not because I'm like, oh, now I have this whole plan to like feel better because I don't really have a plan right now.
00:08:59
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ah have ideas and you know, but I, something else additionally that I was reminded of after sharing on Marco and then getting responses was being reminded of the fact that like,
00:09:20
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no matter how I feel about it, how I feel about myself and how I feel about like the thing that I'm sharing.

Exploring Manifestation and Gratitude

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And that goes for when I was talking to the Marco group, as well as when I'm talking here on the podcast to all the strangers who are listening, who don't actually know me.
00:09:36
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And this is the impression that they're getting is like the importance of like complete total authenticity, which is,
00:09:48
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which
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I've never striven to be inauthentic. I've never striven to deceive people about who I am.
00:09:58
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But, you know, it's, it's like lies of omission in a way sometimes. And that's not me saying like, I've been lying to you, but like, it's just sort of feeling like, okay, I better not talk about or draw attention to these things that I don't feel good about, about myself.
00:10:16
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But what, being in this, you know, Anahata's group, the Marco, you know, group and being on this podcast is teaching me is that this intense vulnerability that's so real, like in it's so fucking hard for me is actually helping people.
00:10:47
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Definitely. because they you know Because of the multiple people who came back and immediately responded and was like, you are actually like, you don't understand the impact you have.
00:11:01
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And like, you are, you know, fixing to change my life with the things that you're saying. and You know, it's just because, and and even like, you know, two weeks ago when I shared the other like really super vulnerable stuff about inner child wounds that like I didn't really talk about here and I haven't, I know you haven't like seen that in Marco caught up, but like, you know, I had people respond both in the group and texting me directly being like, thank you so much for saying all that stuff.
00:11:36
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Oh my God. Like I didn't even think about it that way. And I, than I needed to
00:11:46
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and I'm just sitting here like feeling the i don't want to say burden and make it sound like it's a you know I'm i'm not in trying to imply it's a negative thing but like there is a weight there of like oh like it's actually impacting people there's a gravity there's yeah gravity thank you oh my god
00:12:10
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And I'm just like, I've been processing over the last like hour and a half-ish.
00:12:18
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Like, the importance of this radical vulnerability.
00:12:25
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um And so I'm thinking, y'all, the listeners here, again, we thank you out all the time.
00:12:38
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mean it every time we say it. Right now I'm thanking you from the bottom of my heart for listening and for, you know, holding space for the things that i come on here and talk about.
00:12:55
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Yeah. Definitely, dude. I second that.
00:13:02
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Gratitude.
00:13:05
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Gratitude, man. And and it kind of, like I said, it rolls into the topic that we are talking about today.
00:13:17
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Manifestation! Manifestation. We, honestly, i feel like we just dip our toes in and talking about manifestation all the time. We're just like,
00:13:30
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oh, like, this completely separate topic, but, like, oh, here's how it, like, relates to manifestation, you know? Like, we do that all the time. I was like, what if we just to straight up talk about manifestation, right?
00:13:44
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Yeah, dude. That's why, like, i I wanted to bring it up is, like, there's so much to talk about, and we, I think, we have put the caveat on a lot of cases of like, oh, we will eventually revisit this topic.
00:13:59
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Manifestation, we have to revisit it at some point. It's too big yeah of a topic. And the weird thing is, like, when you brought it up to me today, earlier, i was like, didn't we already do that topic? Because we talk about it so much.
00:14:14
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I know, right? Did we not even add it to our list of topic ideas? like i I mean, I don't know. i was looking at it, and I think... I don't think specifically we had added it to the list, but we're doing it anyway. um And like, yeah. So like kind of the tie here is the way that gratitude plays a role and manifestation. Sorry. Oh, for sure.
00:14:41
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That's all was trying to say. Yeah.
00:14:50
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um and i hadn't even written gratitude gratitude down on my notes so i'm gonna write that down even though we're started already gratitude we did talk about we did talk about gratitude a subject yes we did it probably talked about manifestation i haven't listened to that episode in a while but we probably talked about manifestation at some point during that episode um So those notes that you took earlier, you didn't even write down gratitude? I did not even write down gratitude.
00:15:20
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I was just like, oh, and here's my segue. I found it Here we go. Yeah, dude. You always have to have an attitude of gratitude, and that is how manifest. Or a latitude of gratitude. That's how you manifest things into your life.
00:15:37
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Yeah. but And it's just, it's one of the tools. It's not even, like, the only tool or the main tool the big tool. Well, I don't know. I feel like... It is a big tool. I feel like there's a lot of tools. I feel like it's the overarching tool.
00:15:53
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Like, if you don't have gratitude, you are probably not going to manifest anything. True. It's true. Usually, i mean, like, especially because, like, the first note that I had written down was feelings rule what manifests.
00:16:09
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And you're not likely... in a space of feeling any sort of positive way, if gratitude is not a part of your life. Right. um So that is that point also.
00:16:24
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um But the other way that what I wanted you know, start out by saying ties into this is because of something my friend told me when I broke down and like told her how I've been feeling Because I, in and I said this a lot, I said the words a lot last week, that I feel incompetent, inadequate, all the, like, insert negative, you know, self-deprecating thing here.
00:16:55
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Like, i feel all those things based on you know, my own mental illness and my own things that are, like, stunting me.
00:17:07
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and she had to make the point of you're probably only manifesting more of that because of how much you feel that way about yourself.
00:17:18
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Yeah. and I was like, motherfucker, you're right.

Changing Self-Perception and Overcoming Negativity

00:17:26
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um and I was like, and i know you're right. And also,
00:17:30
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I have this big old giant ass Leo moon heart that feels everything so fucking intensely that it just consumes me.
00:17:41
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and i can't even, it's like, it's almost like I don't even have to try to just manifest all the like bad feelings that I feel, you know, manifest more of them because that's what just like takes over.
00:17:54
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yeah You know, because I haven't, and don't want to say I haven't mastered my emotions because like, I think I've taken major strides, um but particularly just the self-awareness of like, oh, I feel everything really intensely. That does not mean that the world is falling apart.
00:18:11
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um Like has, has changed a lot. It helped me like keep from spiraling. um Yeah, for sure. But, but even still, like in those moments, the feeling is really intense.
00:18:26
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It's like, it's, you know, if you think of, your feelings, your emotions, like, like a beacon ah a vibration.
00:18:37
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That's like a fucking, you know, road flare. Yeah. So fucking loud. Yeah. The universe is like, Oh, okay. You know, it's just like, no, stop.
00:18:51
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I don't want more of this. I can't do anything about the way that it just consumes. Right. Like, And it takes over. so do you need to... No, good. Pause? um Okay. no um When I was there in November... Yes.
00:19:10
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Do you remember me suggesting to you about writing a specific phrase on a piece of paper and sticking it up where you could see it all the time? i i mean, I think that I remember you suggesting... That's also like... I've seen that suggestion ah lot of places.
00:19:30
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Like, that's, like, a thing I've seen. Like, it's, it's like, ah it's, I don't know. Not me saying, oh, it's an an original idea. but like. No, no. I feel like I've seen that suggested a lot of places. The phrase was, am worthy.
00:19:48
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okay And you were so resistant and would not take my my you know suggestion into consideration to actually do. But this is what I'm trying to say.
00:19:59
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like your friend kind of smacked you in the face with her you know knowledge or wisdom. And I think that that is really what I was trying to say to you in a gen gentler way in November.
00:20:14
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is like It doesn't matter if you don't feel it. That is the point to have that phrase and read it to yourself all the time. so the more you say it, the more you believe it.
00:20:25
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yeah You understand? So saying I am worthy yeah and it doesn't mean it you have to be worthy of a specific this or a specific that. It's just worthy in general.
00:20:37
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yeah You're worthy of everything. You're worthy of love. You're worthy of acceptance. You're worthy of self-love. You're worthy of feeling proud.
00:20:51
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You're worthy of everything. And to say, i am worthy on a piece of paper and write it and hang it somewhere where you can see it all the time. you It starts to drill it into your head and then you start to believe it. And that's how you manifest it.
00:21:07
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Yeah. That's how. Yeah. It's, it's tough, man, because like, you know, I know that like the resistance that I felt and expressed and that I even can feel now comes from a place of being like, well, it's, well, it's bullshit, you know, because I'm so entrenched and have always been so entrenched in like the opposite place for so long.
00:21:39
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Mm hmm.
00:21:42
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They're talking so loud. i can know I can hear thumping. i can't hear talking, but I can hear thumping. Yeah, there's thumping, but they I can hear their talking. glad you don't hear the talking.
00:21:53
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But the thumping... mean, the thumping's nothing new. yeah that's our weekly... Every Thursday night occurrence. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
00:22:06
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You know, the resistance is coming up because of the... feeling that it's bullshit, the feeling that it's like it's not true. and Again, it's all feelings, but it's like but it's also like you know beliefs at at a point. because and It became beliefs before I ever understood what it meant to have a limiting belief in the first place. you know It was already wormed all the way deep inside my DNA. Similar the way that the friends who responded similar to the way that like
00:22:37
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the friends who responded on Marco this afternoon ah this evening and said the things that they said that's why I kind of came back and was like god I want to save those videos and keep them in a place where if I'm feeling like trash I just need to go and see like go watch this video go listen to these words and like be reminded of the people see all see all of me
00:23:09
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And love all of me and want more.
00:23:18
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ye
00:23:21
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And frankly, why have I ever, I shouldn't say, why have I ever, I haven't always been in this place. Why would I now ever continue associating with people who don't make me feel that way?
00:23:35
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And same to you. Why would you ever, right? Like, Why would you, Christina, you, the listener, ever associate with people who don't make you feel like absolutely everything about you is wonderful and beautiful and lovely and they want more?
00:23:59
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Very good point. Which leads to, you know, another good point about manifestation is that the people you associate with have a big impact on your vibe have a big impact on your energy no matter how hard you're trying to manifest a thing if you are with people who are bringing you down or who just simply are not on the same wavelength as you in a way that like gets under your skin you know well I don't just mean that in like the annoyed way but like in like a you know they're not just like an acquaintance that you don't vibe with it's like somebody that's like a close friend but you're not on the same wavelength
00:24:38
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Right. Like, that's going to impact your effectiveness at manifesting what it is that you are working toward.
00:24:52
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Yes. and It sort of reminds me of the old, like, phrase or whatever the fuck you want to call it.
00:25:03
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Sort of, like, advice, if you will. of If you are the smartest person in the room, then you find you need to find a new room. And like, yeah it goes the same, like for... The same thing goes for vibes. la if you like can't talk tonight! What the fuck? If you're the highest vibe in the room, find a new room.
00:25:32
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yeah Don't let the crabs in the bucket drag you down. Oh my god, yes. ah If y'all don't know that analogy, i don't know what to call it, but like the the concept of like, if you put one crab in a bucket, it's going figure out a way out pretty easily and get out.
00:25:57
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it It'll escape pretty quickly. If you put a bunch of crabs in a bucket, and one starts to manage to figure out a way out, the other crabs are going to grab it and pull it back down.
00:26:12
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I don't know why Maybe, maybe scientists don't even know why, but like, it's a thing where the people that you're stuck with are going are going to pull you back down. Yes.
00:26:26
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And, and they may not even be doing so in like a conscious way. Right. You know, the crabs don't know why they're doing what they're doing. They're just doing it because that's what they've always done. i was going to say, I feel like they think that they're going to get, you know, get out easier by holding on to the one that's above them that's getting out. Like, maybe they think that they're going to get out, like, crawl on top of that one or something, but instead they just pull it down and it's, you know, and that just keeps happening over and over again.

Manifestation Methods and Emotional Management

00:26:55
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Like, who's not learning? Yeah.
00:26:58
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I don't know. Who knows? But, like, point being, like the people who are your co-bucket crabs are not likely to be supportive in the way that you think that they ought to or, you know, have been maybe in the past or whatever. Life shit changes so fast, you know. yeah Circumstances change really fast and someone who was a really good friend to you ah year ago maybe because they have not been on the
00:27:33
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like a same evolution as you they're not really they're not going to be here for the the new versions of you that you're discovering yeah
00:27:48
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manifestation it's um god it feels it's it's so hard because it's like there's so many ways that people do it there's so many methods that people choose and share about like people but people like can choose from so many different like techniques
00:28:07
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and get it at its core. Like it really does boil down to like the way that you feel and the vibration that it, that pulses out from you.
00:28:24
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And that's not to say that if you are having a hard time in life and you feel pretty fucking rough, that you're doomed to like be only manifesting more of that. Like that's not, that's not like nobody is doomed in that way, you know?
00:28:45
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yeah
00:28:49
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But like, that's, I think where, you know, that's where it becomes important to learn learn how to like Process your emotions. like you know Gain that emotional intelligence to where you can recognize when something is a feeling and not a reality, like a fact.
00:29:10
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And feel the way that you feel. Feel your emotions, but feel them to move through them rather than feeling them and then wallowing or dwelling. Because like it's the dwelling...
00:29:25
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that tends to get the attention of the uh universe yeah it's human to have feelings it's human to it's extraordinarily human and it's human to feel things for longer than like what they what do they say like 90 seconds is like the natural like lifespan of a like reactionary emotion i've never heard that um i could be pulling that out of my ass i don't know i heard it somewhere The internet is a war zone. A vast expanse of everything. It's a wasteland.
00:30:00
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Oh my god. but like, you know, that like shorter span of time where it's just like, oh, this is like the natural like lifespan of ah of an emotion that you feel in reaction to something that happens.
00:30:13
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who You know? And then anything beyond that is like toxic. No, it's not. um But anything beyond that is usually where the dwelling starts to be the you know, what you're doing rather than just like feeling the feeling. Right. and you know, that's where it it comes into a gray area where you want to just sort of be self-aware.
00:30:37
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be like, okay, if there's more that's coming up, if there's more that feels like it needs to be worked through, then perhaps I need to pay attention rather than just sink deep down into it.
00:30:50
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Yeah. And just be like, oh, god everything is bad. You know? Dude, you remember how I was telling you that the first time I ever heard about, like, vision boards and things like that, it was an Oprah show?
00:31:09
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yeah And there was somebody on there, whoever it was, that was talking about those, you know, like... vision boards and stuff like that me that said some things and i wrote them down and I put them on my vision board but like one of the things that i kind of was reminded of recently somehow was the phrase that Energy flows where attention goes.
00:31:41
Speaker
So wherever you put your attention, not intention, attention. Yeah. And that's word you just used. And I've heard that phrase too yeah before. Yeah. yeah And I think that this is a little out there, but this person was saying that like they can give themselves an orgasm by focusing their attention on their groin area.
00:32:05
Speaker
and energy just starts to go there and they start to feel like stimulated and whatever so they can cause themselves to have orgasms how do you always bring it back to orgasms that happen without self-stimulation isn't that funny i know i know oh my god it's like it's like you're the one that's sex obsessed and not me that was just an example that she had given and I was just yeah like what because back then I just was like that's not possible I mean if i if I think if I think about my pussy I can feel my pussy yeah you know you start getting a little tingly down there yeah you might feel a little throbbing yeah like you can you can do it yeah and so like
00:32:59
Speaker
energy flows where attention goes or just like a shot of vodka that does the same thing dude like no like if i get a glass like a margarita and the first sip that i take yeah i start feeling tinglys down there why is that why i don't know somebody tell us somebody write in and tell us uh It's always, it's very interesting. Cause I've noticed that for a long time. I have noticed that.
00:33:31
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And I don't know if I've ever heard any other any other people say that. Like, I don't remember hearing other women talk about that. Are we just weird? i don't know. Listen, if you know why that happens, write in and tell us.

Techniques to Disrupt Negative Thoughts

00:33:45
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If you also experience that, write in and tell us. Tell us about your pussy. Okay. Now, let us, let us, uh, Move on because I think I've heard too much.
00:34:01
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Okay. oh Let me let me bring this back around. Yes. Yes. If you are stuck in a negative place. Yeah. And not like breaking free or, you know, allowing your, if you're just sitting there and allowing yourself to loop through those negative thoughts and feelings.
00:34:21
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You've got to decide to remove yourself from that and go put yourself somewhere in a, like, go take a walk in nature or whatever. You have to pull yourself out. There's, like, a, what a ah what's the thing that, like, I brought up in the Anahata's episode of um oh, pattern disruption.
00:34:41
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Like, the whole, like, you know, clap to just get yourself, like, startle yourself out of your, like, the downward spiral of thoughts you know yeah or something like that but also just sort of like pattern disruption like if you start to feel that way like stand up like if you're sitting at your desk or something like just like pause stand up and then like do a little wiggle there's also the mel robbins method remind me remind me her book i think it's called five four three two one method okay
00:35:18
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So if you count backwards from five, once you hit one, your brain doesn't know what else to do. So it just, like, it kind snaps out of, you know what mean? It's just like,
00:35:29
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oh Yeah, because if you start at one and go to five, you could just keep going to six, seven, eight. That's true. Start at five and you count backwards to one.
00:35:42
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Yeah, it's like a it's a brain disruptor. And so that was the whole like like I read that whole book. So basically what it is is like. If you're laying in bed and you're dreading the day and you don't want to get out of bed and get ready for work and stuff like that, you start saying to yourself, five, four, three, two, one. And then when you hit one, you have no choice but to get out of bed. Like you have to just do it.
00:36:05
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Yeah. I can see it working better for me as like a, just like, oh God, I'm in like a downward spiral mentally. and then just sort of be like, all right, five, four, three, two, one Yeah.
00:36:20
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What? You know? and so was like You like Mel Robbins. I'm kind of surprised that you haven't read that book. I haven't read any of her books. Yeah. i think we have I think I have her High Five Method book.
00:36:34
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um But I don't have any of the other books of hers. Oh. that And I follow her on TikTok. And that's about it. Okay. High Five was like a recent one. Yeah.
00:36:45
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Yeah. I'm trying to remember what the actual name of the first one was. Um... But yeah, like, just like, it's it's like a silly little thing, but it's just so you know a reminder that like, toddlers, ah your brain is like a toddler.
00:37:02
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In a way. remember how you told me about how it's like, you you used to, when your son would cry when he was a very small infant, you would blow on his face and it would like, disrupt him. Yeah.
00:37:13
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Yeah. Yeah. It reminds me of that. Yeah. It's sort of like, it just like shakes it out of like, whatever like spiral he's experiencing as a newborn infant in this hellscape of a world.
00:37:24
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Yeah. And, and suddenly it's like, Oh, air in face. What? I know. And it's so weird how I discovered it. Like, I don't even, Oh God. I was reminded. I was reminded of it like yesterday, I think.
00:37:41
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Cause I was, Oh yeah, it was yesterday when I was packing up, when I was getting in my car after work at the office. And it was so windy and I couldn't breathe. Oh, dude, I know.
00:37:53
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It like hit me in the face and it was just like... Yes, I get that too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hate it. That reminded me of what you said about blowing on the baby's face to get him to, you know, stop fussing. Yeah.
00:38:09
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And like that just, yeah, it all it all is coming full circle. Yeah.
00:38:19
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But yeah, like pattern disruption, thought disruption, brain disruption, just to like get you out of that like spiral and then sort of allow you to pivot into something better and less destructive.

Living the Lifestyle You Wish to Manifest

00:38:36
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You know, because at least for me, like those spirals, turn ah you know, ah almost inevitably end up in destructive places. Right. That's not the case for everybody. But like if you if that resonates with you, like this might be ah thing to remember yeah and then like well first of all i'm gonna if y'all want to know about manifestation and you want a very straightforward explanation of how it works and how to do it read fuck the how uh-huh um what's her what's the author's name
00:39:19
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Jennifer Blanchard. Blanchard. Okay. Fuck the How by Jennifer Blanchard. Thank you. Yeah. Read that book. That it is the most straightforward like explanation of manifestation that I've ever seen.
00:39:33
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But one of the things that has resonated with me, like even if I've not like fully managed to apply it in life, in my life, but like it's something that like when she explained it, I understood it was when she talked about how if you're trying to mean manifest something specific, especially something that's like a, like a tangible thing, like money, um, or like a new job, new like work situation,
00:40:01
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ah her like mode, like modus operandum is to literally like live your life as though you already have the thing. Uh-huh.
00:40:17
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Do the things that you would be doing if you had the thing. Yep. and just like they say dress for the job that you want. Yes. Yes. um Dress for the job you want.
00:40:30
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There's a reason that these weird little phrases phrases like exist. you know Spend your weekends doing the things that you want to be doing in your life. in your day Whether it's a weekday a weekend day that you'd want to be doing the things.
00:40:46
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You know, usually with us who are trying to find new job situations, we're stuck in the office or, you know, glued to the computer from eight to five on Monday through Friday.
00:40:58
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But, you know, when you're outside of that, spend that time doing the things that you would be doing in the life that you want to be living.
00:41:13
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And like, you know, her example, can't remember the, total specifics but her example was like to go to like this cafe or like a whole foods or something and like go and like get something really yummy to eat and like bring her computer and like sit and do her work with this yummy food that she likes just sort of like but like in the middle of the day just like hey this is just like how i do my this is my work day i get to go to this cafe and like
00:41:45
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enjoy it and vibe and feel good and like you know it's it's simple little things like that and not big ornate big you know right difficult or expensive types of things that she is making the suggestion about it's very much just like how would you live your daily life not like what would you give yourself like what would you gift yourself if you had a whole bunch of money but like How would you live your daily life if you had a whole bunch of money?
00:42:18
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How would you feel? yeah Because like, it's also a little bit almost like the like fake until you make it Like do the thing until the thing is what your life is.
00:42:32
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Yeah. The thing is natural to you or the thing yeah is right to you or whatever. Yeah. Because that's like, it's, it's like a way of taking action to embody the feeling that you want to have that you want more of rather than just like sitting on the couch just like closing your eyes and thinking to yourself i love my Ferrari and I'm so grateful for my Ferrari And, you know, Yeah, dude. Like, go to the Ferrari store.
00:43:05
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yeah And go and sit in They don't know that you don't have money. Right. Like, they can't check your bank account before realize you, you know, walk in Yeah. Exactly.
00:43:17
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Go to you know, the fucking Galleria Mall and go, you know, take a meander through the Louis Vuitton store. Mm-hmm.
00:43:29
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You don't need to be rich to walk into the Louis Vuitton store. Exactly. You will feel like an imposter, but that does not mean that you are an imposter. Pick up the bag, unzip it, stick your face in it and smell it. Smell it!
00:43:44
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Get all the senses involved in the process. Yes. so like Yes. Afterward, buy yourself $10 latte. Yeah. yeah
00:43:56
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because that's an affordable splurge that yeah you know we wouldn't normally spend ten dollars for a latte yeah it's like get yourself a croissant and a latte be like I'm a fancy bitch and I have all the money I want I have more money than I know what to do with fan yourself with your hundreds the book that that I was referencing earlier is called The Five Second Rule but it Five second rule. yeah That sounds more familiar. literally means like literally, you know. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, yeah. It's counting backwards from 5. Yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah
00:44:34
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Yeah. Yeah, dude. Try to read it if you can. What else could a person do to like... Very interesting. Sorry. i didn't mean to interrupt you. It's okay.
00:44:47
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What else could a person do to like, you know, go out and like live a daily live their daily life like you know they have the thing that they want I like this let's keep doing this okay I i was thinking about this already just a couple minutes ago and I was trying to figure out if it was relevant okay but I think it is um if you okay it' so the really stupid thing is to assume that everybody wants to just be rich pfft
00:45:19
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Because that's not like always the goal. But it's kind of important sometimes so that you can have ah better life in general. Right. OK. Yeah. Like there's there's certain like upgrades that, you know, kind of.
00:45:33
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are the only way to unlock them is through money, but you know, whatever. Right. I will say i don't, I don't want a Ferrari, but I do want Louis Vuitton. So, so the, the one thing I remember seeing this and it had to probably do with TikTok. There was a, um I think it was a woman talking about ways to get your life in alignment with what you want and also to help you.
00:46:03
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Like if you're starting a business, like let's just give my husband as an example because he has his photo booth business. Right. And like anything that you are doing that you want to attract a higher level clientele for Go to the places where they hang out, like really fancy restaurants.
00:46:28
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Go to the fancy restaurants. Try to wear your nicest clothing. yeah You know, so that you can appear like you belong there. Dress for the job you want. Exactly. and just sit at the bar and hang out and have drinks and just start conversations with the people around you. Go to fancy restaurant, order an appetizer that you can afford.
00:46:50
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Yeah. Or just a cocktail. And then sit there and make it look like you're scrolling on your like business emails your phone. Get used to feeling like you belong in that space with those people. Yes.
00:47:03
Speaker
Yes! Yes! You know, I really hate it when my screen freezes up because I can hear you flipping out over there and I can't see it I'm like, God damn it!
00:47:16
Speaker
Because it just freezes on one little thing where you're just sitting there like... um but i'm hearing all different other things besides that you're seeing like yes yes the opposite of enthusiasm but you're hearing all the enthusiasm ah jerry jerry mcguiring over there show me the money no but for real though like i thought that was the theme It's so true. That was such good advice. It is. It doesn't cost you much to just walk into a place yeah like that. Yeah, it's like, you probably need a snack anyway.
00:47:55
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Yeah. Yeah. I was, like, literally going to tell John, we need to have a date night where we get all dressed up fancy and just go hang out in places like that it and just sit and have drinks and just, like, hobnob with, like,
00:48:13
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The wealthy people. Yeah. And tell him, by the way, tell him that fancy is not his fucking bowling shirts. so Okay. He needs to wear ah white button up.
00:48:26
Speaker
Right. Yes. Yes. Anyway. i was going to say, though, like you could just do this on your own. Oh, yes. Absolutely. And like go and like be a fancy bitch in a fancy place.
00:48:40
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Even if I went you are entrepreneur, you are a travel agent, you are a microgreens grower, you are a podcaster, you are all of these things.
00:48:53
Speaker
And Yes, you can have that business card. Yeah, i was going to say, go print out a small amount of these business cards that list all the things and like, yeah here's my number. Yeah. And I gotta do the same thing. i gotta to do the same thing with my fucking tarot. Dude, yes.
00:49:12
Speaker
Yeah. Can you imagine? Dude, I can see this. So obviously that means it can happen. So like, I see you dressed up in your like, really witchy garb, but like not like, like, out, and you know,
00:49:27
Speaker
out but Not out in left field, like, space time traveling witchy garb my space suit yeah the space suit that I have in my closet I mean just like you know I'm picturing like corporate goth Dude, yes, whatever you can come up with, something like that, and just go and hang out in one of these awesome, fancy places and just be a fancy bitch and talk to everybody like they're your friend and like you've known them forever.
00:50:04
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you know? yeah That might like, okay, again, it's not like I want to sit here and be like, let's set a goal. But like, what if what if we weekend?
00:50:16
Speaker
did that once a weekend like for ourselves i would or once every other weekend or whatever we can like realistically obtain realistically for me i would say once a month i could probably try to do that okay yeah and i mean like maybe maybe once a month for me too with like you know expenses potentially incurring but like yeah like yeah now i just gotta find out where are the fancy places?
00:50:48
Speaker
Yeah. Where do the wealthy people hang out? And now Glen Farmer is not a bad, you know, it's not a bad place. Not a bad place start. Yeah. And you've done that enough times, but like, it it would be the kind of thing where you would, you would know that you could just hang out at a bar.
00:51:06
Speaker
and Yeah. And they have a bar. it is a distillery. um so that would work. But like, yeah, like I'm going to think, I'm going to actually brainstorm some of this. um and figure it out and cool this is a fun project I like it I like it but that's the thing it it helps you attract the kind of clients that you want to have yeah and also at the same time kind of elevates your vibration and the universe is like oh let's give her more of that you know
00:51:45
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yeah
00:51:48
Speaker
I'm so glad I'm not irrelevant why would you be irrelevant I'm just saying sometimes I feel like crap that I offer is just kind of like meh no yeah
00:52:02
Speaker
nobody thinks that anywho yeah and I'm trying to remember I would love to find the girl that was like I think she was recommending certain books and things like that. i don't know. It was just a big, long list of stuff. But it that was one of the things that stuck out to me.
00:52:23
Speaker
And I remember bringing it up to John at the time and being like, this is what we need to do. This is what we need to do. We need to go and hang out once in a while at these fancy fucking places.
00:52:35
Speaker
Dressed all beautiful and like just, you know, behave as if we belong there. Like it's old hat to us. Yeah. You know? And start making friends. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:52:48
Speaker
You are on the nuggets. Woo-hoo. It's like, it's like the next step beyond visualization. Yeah. You're putting yourself actually physically the spot. Yeah, it's action.
00:52:59
Speaker
Mm-hmm. it's like i Like I was saying, like I would much rather take action on things like this rather than like make a habit of sitting on the couch and like chanting to myself right about what it is that I want.
00:53:13
Speaker
For sure. you know But it's like it's an all-encompassing thing. It is a... like you know you You go out and you take action, but you also...
00:53:27
Speaker
do, you know, meditate and visualize, you know, in in the instances where you feel like that's going to work for you, like where you're not just like, you know, where it's not a drag to do um And you also make your vision boards and you do your spell work.
00:53:45
Speaker
If that is what you do, you know, not everybody here's doing spell work, but you know, for me, um like it's, it's like a all tactics approach that,
00:53:57
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honestly, probably fucking foolproof.

Personal Poetry and Themes of Authenticity

00:54:03
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So certainly couldn't hurt. Yeah. You know what I think, what think I'm going to do?
00:54:12
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Like i could certainly do like a, Oh, I'm just going to go spend a couple hours at a bar type of thing more often. But the thing that I might make a, like a,
00:54:26
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Less frequent but still consistent practice is like, again, taking a weekend day and spending a day as a rich person. Just like waking up and being like, all right, I have many millions of dollars.
00:54:43
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Here's what I want to do with my day. It doesn't mean i'm going to go spend money. It means I'm going to embody this vibe.
00:54:54
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Yeah, I mean... get up and get a shower and wear some of your most yeah favorite clothes and get in your car and go drive to a fancy spa and sit in the parking lot and look you know what I mean whatever just sit there and watch all the go get you a manicure if you're gonna spend some money yeah but even even just being at the place you know yeah brings that vibe to you. like yeah Go to the shops that you actually are interested in. Oh, if I had money, I would buy these.
00:55:28
Speaker
Go like meander, whatever it is, whatever it may be. you know Go peruse. They don't have to know that you don't have the money. exactly you know um Go to the art museum.
00:55:41
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Look at the events on the calendar at the art museum. and like That's where rich people are. They're at the events because they're fucking giving money to the art museum. You know?
00:55:54
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Like, find out. like you know dont You don't have to go to those events, but like look at them. Put them on your calendar. like You belong there. You know? yeah like Things like that.
00:56:08
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I feel inspired. Yay! Yay! Yeah, yeah. I do too. You too. you yes definitely We going to make shit happen.
00:56:24
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Let's make shit happen. who And on that note, um I actually wanted to share a thing.
00:56:34
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Do you remember? you know? no I'm not sure where you're getting at. i I love Facebook memories. oh
00:56:47
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I love Facebook memories because it'll remind me because ah back in the day I used to, I could and should do this more still, but like I used to just sort of like think of words and then put them on the internet.
00:57:01
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no And sometimes I would come up with phrases that were kind of like poetry, but they're not poems.
00:57:17
Speaker
Right. They're just sentences. It's poetry. It is poetry. Poetry doesn't have to rhyme and shit. Yeah. and it's like I mean, I don't even care about rhyming poems. I care about like, but like, you know, people think of poems as having verses at all, like, or having that structure, you know, and I know that that's not what it's restricted to, but like, that is what comes to mind.
00:57:41
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But like, when it's like one sentence, I'm just like, I don't know what this is, but I'm going to put it out in the universe. so Facebook memories comes around and reminds me of the random fucking thing that I said 10 years ago.
00:57:57
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So last summer when Christina and I got started on this, um i got one of these little nuggets in my Facebook memories.
00:58:13
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And it was from July 26, 2015. twenty fifteen And it hit me real hard with what we were starting to work on. huh How I put that in the universe and it came back and manifested itself.
00:58:35
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Sure the fuck did. I wrote this on the internet before I knew Christina. Yes. Literally like four months before. Four months before.
00:58:46
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We knew each other.
00:58:49
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and I wanted to share it. It's one sentence. I'm going to read it twice. And that'll be our episode. So here we are.
00:59:02
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i dream of words spoken into infinite space, glittering on with heavy beauty and shadow and no shame.
00:59:17
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I dream of words spoken into infinite space glittering on with heavy beauty and shadow and no shame.
00:59:30
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I get chills, dude.
00:59:35
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I get chills. I have chills right now. It's so beautiful. Thank you for listening to our podcast. It is so poignant and beautiful and it is exactly what we're doing right now.
00:59:50
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So, yeah like, I didn't know when I was going to share that. I knew that we wanted to, but, like, I didn't know when we were going to. And it felt that today felt like a really good day to do that for the fact of, like, how last week's episode went, how I've been feeling since, and how we decided to talk about manifestation today.
01:00:16
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and it all it all tied in. And particularly the shadow and no shame.
01:00:31
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I refuse feel ashamed anymore about my shadow.
01:00:38
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Thank you for listening to our podcast. We are extraordinarily grateful that you're here. We love you from the bottoms of our hearts.
01:00:49
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And we'll see you again next week.
01:00:52
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Thanks, guys. Bye. Bye.