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56. Inked & Proud of It
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Tattoos were one of the many common interests that we bonded over when we were first getting to know each other. This week we explored what tattoos mean to us as a form of self-expression, and some of the stories behind the ones we’ve gotten so far. <3
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Humorous Beginnings: Spelling and Smelling Names
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happy mcconaughey
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i can't smell that man's name save my life smell it or spell it spell it it sounded like you said smell it what are you taking that you can smell names oh my god what would you like to know i sure would oh my god up i sure would oh my god what is up Mama.
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What is up, lady? It's so early in the day. it's so bright in your office.
Podcast Nostalgia: Early Recording Days
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And we used to do this at five o'clock all the time when we first started.
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I know. It's so crazy. So wild. um Yeah. So this is this is fun. Revisiting the old days.
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Yeah. But yeah.
Tattoos: Significance and Decisions
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We are here. We're We're queer. We're ready Talk about tattoos. That too. um
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You said wreak havoc? Yeah. That too, yes, for sure. Yes. ah Yeah, we decided we want to talk about tattoos, what they mean to us, and not just like the tattoos that we have and what they actually mean, but like tattoos as a concept.
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yeah I guess.
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Oh my god. Which is funny because it's like it seems so strange to like try to phrase it that way and yet at the same time like I feel like I have a lot potentially a lot to say. huh and I think I'm guessing you did too since you had been the one to suggest this like you know initially you added it to the list.
Cultural Liberation Through Tattoos
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Yeah. So yeah. what what What was going through your mind when you thought of it as a subject to talk about. I don't know.
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Cause I'm so deep that way. Yes. I don't know. I think, I think I just thought it would be interesting for us to talk about what tattoos we have and why and where they are and whatever.
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Tell the stories. True. Yeah. yeah i I don't think, I mean, I have a lot and I'm not necessarily going to get into probably most of them, but I'll talk about like the biggest, most important ones m maybe.
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um But also like tattoos actually like mean something to me. Like there, when i decided I wanted to start getting tattoos, like it felt like a, like a liberation of the soul perhaps is the best way to phrase it.
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And I was curious if you had a similar like feeling about, you know, deciding to to get tattoos because we were both raised in a culture that vilifies tattoos. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of funny. I remember...
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when I was quite early on in my tattoo journey, I probably just had like one or two. oh I ran into some Mormon missionaries at like Taco Bell or something.
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um They were sister missionaries as it were. oh And I, I think I mentioned to them, that I had just gotten in a tattoo or I had i was going to, or I don't remember.
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no And they were like, oh, like, I don't remember exactly what they said, but they were like, oh, like, I don't know. They said something to me that made me go, oh, we're not supposed to get these.
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Oh, like you didn't know?
High School Memories: Tattoos and Perceptions
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i don't think it was ever really talked about. Wow. I don't remember hearing it talked about because- tattoos and piercings and stuff weren't really the norm back in the early 90s. I guess they were like, you know, they were still just sort of reserved for like vagabonds and criminals and gang members.
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No, I mean, people were getting them, but it wasn't like it wasn't like a thing. Like, you know, in let's just say, high school.
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Yeah. Well, it it wasn't, it's it's not a thing for high schoolers in general. So, yeah. So it was like, I was young and I didn't know anyone yet who really were like, was into doing that, you know, it just wasn't really you super popular or whatever. Yeah. so i guess I knew, i knew a guy and my senior year who had like, like,
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a large amount of, well, I can't even say a large amount, like and a surprising portion of his body was visibly tattooed for being a high schooler.
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i think he was like, I think he, I don't know if he was like, you know, held back ever and just like older in general, or if he just had like a really early birthday and turned 18 early in the senior year or whatever. i'm I'm not a hundred percent sure. I really, he's a bit of a mystery to me.
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um even still but um like he had like you know tattoos on his calves and on his arms you should totally look that guy up oh i I'm still friends with him on Facebook oh dude you should ask ask him
Religious Teachings and Personal Decisions
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we'll see. Um, but I'll dig up photos. I'll stock and I'll dig up photos and I'll send them to you. Cause I think there's photos probably from back in those times, uh, where you can see just how tatted he was. It was interesting.
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I feel like he probably had someone in his family that was a tattooer and the family was probably kind of like, Oh, go ahead and get one or something because you have, you have parents permission, you know?
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so like, Yeah, I really don't know. How would he have ton 18, you know? But anyway. probably had an older cousin that was doing tattoos and was like, yeah, dude. Maybe. Maybe. Just do it. Maybe one day will catch up with him and, you know, be like, hey.
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That would be cool. Tell me about your life because I'm going to understand. You should. Yeah. But anyway. so I just find it interesting, though, because, like, it's... I mean, we we kind of...
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touched on this in the modesty episode but like it doesn't seem like it was very hounded on you by your uh mother about like mormon appearance dress and appearance standards um and you mostly just sort of were guided by what was the current style and at the time the current style was not super immodest and at the time tattoos weren't super like normal or common yeah on like you know non-military um you know non-biker gang uh felon yeah like like those kinds of people yeah because when i think back like i i still can't picture or point out like mentally uh-huh anybody that i knew that had tattoos and why would i do that at 18 you know
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right or 19 whatever i was i might have been 18 i don't remember but yeah i don't know and i mean let's i just there's also like the um what's it called i can't remember if it i think it was it must have just been a talk by gordon b hinkley where he condemned second piercings in the earlobes oh yeah And my own Mormon mother had second piercings and hearing that immediately took them out and let them close.
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Oh my goodness.
First Tattoo Experiences: Mistakes and Reactions
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And I was like, I don't know. I don't know if tattoos were a part of that talk as well, but I just know that like piercings and tattoos always got lumped together in the discourse under in like Mormon, you know, dressing grooming standards. Yeah.
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And I also don't remember what year it was that that ah was said. And like, basically that standard was uh forced upon the mormon populace yeah but uh but i do know that like i grew up with it being talked about like tattoos are ugly and gross and they mean that you're a bad person um and like just all this stuff and like i was just like you know what i don't know like don't who am i to judge like
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but Literally the same way that I felt about like everything that Mormonism was shoving down my throat. Yeah. You know, because I was tried, like i I was, you know, taught effectively homophobic discourse as well.
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And I never bought that either. I was just like, I don't see what the fucking big deal is. Like calm down and leave like leave people alone. Mind your business. Yeah.
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I am fanically sitting here nodding yes. um yeah for real like when you said that about your mom with the second holes i am was remembering that i had my second ones done at 14 and my mom had her second ones done and she never took hers out but see but y'all were never that devout but You never were like, must follow every word of all the leadership to the letter. Yeah, but like, I i just remember whatever talk that he gave that he said that in.
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We must not have like been paying attention or whatever. i don't know. you don't remember. i mean, maybe, maybe, maybe it was talked about, but yeah. Yeah.
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It was kind of probably like, oh, well, too late. We already have our second holes, you know? Right, right. um Yeah. And now I do remember one of my friends in high school, and it might have been like right after high school or something.
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She got a tattoo around her ankle of a vine. And um I was just in awe of it. I was just like, whoa, that's cool. Yeah. you know Yeah.
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So she might have been part the... Because that's the thing. are, like, objectively pretty when they're when they're well done. But, like, they're objectively cool as a concept and as, like, an art form.
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Yeah. Yeah. So she might have been the very first person I knew that had gotten one. um I just don't... I don't remember for sure. But I did just have that memory. And I was like, oh, yeah, Jessica.
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And, like, trying to think of anyone else. But, you know. Mm-hmm. Can't think. Cannot think. um But for whatever reason, I felt very drawn to do it pretty pretty soon thereafter.
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yeah And it's really funny because the first one I had gotten done was awful.
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It is awful. Still have it. I walked into ah tattoo place and i and I just drew down the idea that I had. And I wanted them to take that idea and actually make something of it.
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Right. He took the exact thing that I drew there in 20 seconds and put it on me. And so that is why looks like total shit. um Because it's not what I wanted to have put on me.
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I was not familiar with the process, but they didn't also clarify to me. Right. They didn't say like, so you want exactly this? want this exact thing that you just drew put on you. And I'm, you know, I would have been like,
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But i did say, i am pretty sure that i walked in there and said, I have this idea. And like, this is the idea. Can you, you know, I'm pretty sure I would have said something like, you know, I want this done, drawn up and well, like, yeah, artistically done. Yeah.
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Totally. So it looks like total dog shit and I hate it. so um You've, you've seen it,
The Influence of Kat Von D and LA Ink
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haven't you? You've shown it to me. Yeah. Yeah. yeah So then I had another, the second one that I got, I had another idea and I wanted like,
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a little simple daisy that, you know, could look like a child's drawing. i mean, whatever. It's not like totally like messy looking or anything dumb, but like very simple drawing of it from a daisy on my foot.
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And that one, and i definitely wanted done the way I just drew it. Like as I took ink with a pen and I drew it on myself and and walked around with it on there for a while and was like, I kind of like this.
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Yeah. You know, so yeah I got it done. um And then after I did that, I was accused of the people around me of stealing the idea of another person that we worked with who took a flower that looked like the Thrifty Florist logo. I don't know if anybody has Thrifty Florist around them, but it's a flower.
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okay And she got it tattooed on her somewhere. And I was like, I didn't even know she was doing that. um my god I didn't even know and they were all like you you're you know whatever they call people that stole ideas don't know there's a word for that like i don't know like copycat a copy copycat yeah like they were just accusing me of being a copycat and I was just like I didn't know i swear to god I didn't know and then oh yeah they were they weren't very nice to me after that it was really fucking stupid
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that's bullshit man yeah yeah it was really stupid but then again we're talking about you know 19 ish year old people right yeah assholes the lot of them yeah yeah so yeah and then a little while after that it was kind of like you know what i'm kind of sick of having stupid looking tattoos i really need a nice looking tattoo that looks professional yeah So that's when I finally got the music one on the back of my left arm.
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Right. Yeah. And that was the one I had for the longest time that I was so proud of. the But now I'm more proud of the one that you and I share together. ah the multiple. that we The big pretty one. the last one I got.
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Well, no, not the last one I got. Wait, is it the last one I got? you think so. feel like I got something since then. Yeah, because that was 2022. That was the last time I was there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yep.
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Y'all. Indeed. yeah it's interesting. i i don't know if it's just good luck, maybe, that I happened to be extremely familiar with the typical process of getting tattooed because around the time I turned 20,
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twenty or before I turned 20, but like approaching that in the months leading up to it. um I had gotten into ah the show LA Inc.
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um And I like really only, i I'm sure that I had heard of it. i I think I had definitely heard of like Miami Inc or whatever. Like we, when I was you know younger, like one of the channels that my family regularly watched was TLC.
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Yeah. yeah, and I guess l LA Inc. was also on TLC, but like Miami Inc. was, and then LA Inc. was. And, but like, we never watched that, but like, I definitely had to like, you know, seen, you know, commercials for it and all that.
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And
First Tattoo: Personal Freedom and Challenges
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then when I was in college at BYU, I had, ah that was when I got my Amazon account um And, you know, they were just starting out with like the streaming service Prime, but it wasn't just called Prime. It was I think it was Prime.
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um It was just like, you know, the streaming. Yeah. And they had i think they probably had Miami Inc on there, but they had LA Inc. And I was more interested in LA Inc because i like ah powerful women.
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I like I enjoy their stories more. than anything else and so i was a big fan of kat randy we this is something that you and i have bonded over being fans of her um it is a challenge because of the direction she's headed in recent years um but you know if we can just sort of put our ah time travel glasses on. She really was not a problematic figure. Even, you know, in 2012 when I was first getting into this show.
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Yeah. um Like, you know, she was controversial for being a very tattooed person who advocated for that kind of self-expression.
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hu um but that was honestly part of the reason that I was very into her show and her vibe and her, her message. I was like, you know, on the cusp of leaving the church, like making the active choice to like flip that switch and had always been into tattoos. I was, you know, very into the way she looked very heavily tattooed and very into, you know,
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all like seeing all the other artists on the show, all the other, all the clients that came in like the way that tattooing was being shown as an actual art form.
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Yeah. And not just like, you know, a questionable choice, you know? Right. um
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And so I was like, you know what? I had never really thought too hard about it before. I think because it was always just sort of, decried as being evil and horrible and ugly um i had never thought too much about it but i was as i was thinking about it i was like man if i am leaving the church i get to also make other choices for myself such as to choose to get tattooed yeah and i I was excited to do that. I was like trying, you know, i wanted to figure out like, Oh, I want to know what I want to do. Like I want to make a plan for it. Like I want to come to the artist with a very clear idea, but the way that I had been shown in the show, which admittedly none of my tattoo appointments have ever gone the way that the ones in the show do. They very much showcase like people with interesting stories, people with interesting vibes.
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Yeah. And, uh, you know, it's most almost none of the time I've ever had a tattoo artist ask me like what it is that my tattoo means that I'm getting right um or want to hear a story from me they mostly just want me to be quiet um which I'm actually more happy to do like I i prefer to sit and be quiet um but you know I still knew like okay I want to make sure that I have my idea like well researched and everything and I made I got a recommendation from a friend for an artist in the Northern Virginia area where I was um living after I dropped out of BYU made an appointment with her and i got my first tattoo on my ribs which is a very hard place to get tattooed so I paid through the nose for it but it's still it's not the most expensive tattoo I've ever gotten now but
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I paid like 220 for it. um And I chose ah Radiohead lyrics. um The very end of the song Pyramid Song, where it says there was nothing to fear, nothing to doubt.
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And, you know, i chose that because of the ah
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very challenging time that I was going through, actually, at the time that I was getting into the LA Inc. show.
Reclaiming Body Confidence
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in summer of 2012 when I was dealing with a lot of mental health challenges dealing with the increasing feeling of not wanting to be a member of the Mormon church and you know how was I going to logistically figure that out and like how was I going to break that news to like everybody in my life who was a member and cared and wanted me to be a member still you know yeah um and
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you know, was just in a very difficult place. And that song gave me a lot of comfort. And particularly those lyrics gave me a lot of comfort in those like very, very dark hours of my life. and so that was, I felt a very fitting first tattoo to get.
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And i will say also that I ah threw up in the middle of it. o o we
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Oh my God. It was, ah it was, it was a rough one. I've, that's the only time I've ever thrown up getting tattooed. I've even had my ribs tattooed since and I didn't throw up. It was a smaller tattoo and didn't take nearly as long, but you know, it was still like very painful, but it was just like, I could feel like my, my head was spinning and she kept insisting that I was going to pass out. And I was like, I've literally never passed out in my life.
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Somebody get me a trash can. and
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I really don't know what it was. i I'm like, you know, the pain was bad, but it wasn't consistently bad. Like it would hit occasional nerves, but like it wasn't constant severe pain.
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Right. So I don't know. Maybe it was just like the adrenaline. Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, also the yeah the fact that you have a thing about needles could have role. Well, that's the thing is that these needles are not the thing that scares me.
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Like, and I've never thrown up at like an injection needle. I've cried and hyperventilated at an injection needle, which is a completely different reaction. This was something that came from like, i don't know, my body is like...
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i don't know deep in the nervous system I have no idea on an adrenaline thing too like yeah also so you know if you didn't eat or you did eat and you ate too much or who knows what you know i don't know I tried to be very neutral that day yeah I knew not to overdo it and I knew that I even like had brought with me a can of coke to be able to have some sugar through the process and so it was just it was bizarre but you know maybe i don't know i have no idea but regardless it was uh memorable yeah for sure but yeah and i do remember too that like the first time i really like looked at it in the mirror after i was done like when i was at home um like i remember looking at it and it was on a part of my body you know on my torso where i felt the most self-conscious like you know about my own like appearance yeah
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And i was looking and i was like, man, i didn't realize I would feel this way, but like, it feels like I've reclaimed a part of my body that I've always felt alienated from and felt like I had to hate.
00:25:26
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Wow. And, you know, it sort of hardened my resolve that like tattooing was a very good way for me to like reclaim emotional ownership over my body and my appearance.
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Yeah. Yeah. And I've maintained that, you know, all this time, 13 years later, was it 13, almost 13 years.
Kat Von D's Career and Personal Changes
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And, you know, it's, it's meant a lot to me to be able to do it and, and display them. And, you know, I sure I fucking love the compliments that I get, but it's not even the reason why I get them, you know?
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Yeah. So dude, what? So I just went back and looked up um Miami Inc. because i was obviously older than you and I had ah started watching Miami Inc.
00:26:19
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I don't know if I started watching it immediately when it first came out, but I... It was like the early to mid-aughts, right? It was 2005. Right. So I remember seeing commercials for it and being intrigued and stuff, so i eventually ended up watching it, but...
00:26:36
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um So I was, you know, there when they brought Kat Von D in. Right. Coming in to fill in for somebody else who was out for health issues or a surgery or something.
00:26:51
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Uh-huh. Or an injury. I don't remember. But um they brought her in to cover for one of their tattooers being out. And um i I remember how almost awkward she was.
00:27:06
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in the beginning and definitely like feeling very out of place in miami that wasn't her crowd right um but yeah i mean it was like one of the things that i remember her talking about but um she was so young i just looked you know when when i looked up the pictures there's or yeah she was like in her mid-20s right she she might have been even early early 20s yeah yeah but let's see let's see i was 25 she's than me so right yeah she was probably around 20 maybe 21 i don't know how old are you gotta be to tattoo probably just 18 i'm guessing yeah they're out yeah so um
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Yeah. and she But she had started it before she was 18. You know, she had a really interesting. oh yeah. In her teens, I believe. She started practicing on stuff and people who would let her and whatever. Yeah.
00:28:11
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I think she said she got her first tattoo out like 14. Yeah. yeah But that's because she had like run away from home. Yeah. And I think it was a I remember her mentioning that like.
00:28:23
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the machine that gave her for gave her her first tattoo was like rigged up with a guitar string as the needle. hu and I was just like, damn, that's badass.
00:28:35
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I don't remember that. Yeah. That was funny. But yeah, like I really looked up to her and her energy and her like, you know, motivation to start a business and pursue a dream and you know, be an artist and, you know, even though i never particularly struggled with like addiction, like watching her sobriety story was also really, um inspiring, just inspiring. And, and like, uh, the word that keeps coming to mind is diverting, but that's not the right word.
00:29:15
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it just it compelling. That's the word. It was really compelling. And, and, uh, you know, just sort of the way that she like took the reins of her own life in so many different ways in so many different layers throughout, you know, her teen years and her twenties and built an empire out of it was fucking cool. And it makes me really sad that she's throwing it all away now.
00:29:42
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I hope that she turns it around I hope she figures her shit out, but it is what it is. Anyway, we didn't, i we don't necessarily want to go too deep into no the issues with her.
00:29:55
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um and I will say, you know, i agree with what you're saying to a degree, but like, you know, some people just change and that's just what they are.
00:30:07
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So I worry personally, i worry that the man that she's now got, you know, in a relationship with and married has been manipulating her into something yeah you know i've had the same thought user because abusers do that they control you know and all that shit i yeah have enough experience that crap so i wondered because she's had issues with men prior to him too so yeah it's really like so so much changed when she got with him yeah like she had been very outspoken that she never wanted children
00:30:51
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And then suddenly there was this announcement that she was like five months pregnant suddenly h and like 2018. And I was just like, what? Like, you know, it just felt so weird. Like, I'm i'm like, that's that's actually part of the reason why I'm like, I can't just accept this as a people change thing. Right. You know, because she became an anti-vaxxer.
00:31:12
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Like, people have been claiming that she is like a neo-Nazi sympathizer. i don't really... know all the evidence that people are basing that accusation on but i do know that you know she was never particularly into religion except for like the symbology and the art yeah um and then suddenly she's a not not even like a catholic you know convert but like a evangelical convert yeah
00:31:44
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and like really hilarious all of her tattoos and like seemingly giving up actually doing tattooing yeah she might have even i don't think she's doing that anymore she like threw away her life in la she like gave away or not gave away but probably sold her businesses and she still has the shoe company i think but i don't know yeah i don't know but it's just bizarre and uh And, you know, so that's been a tough thing to have to witness. But, you know, going to be a little bit of a bitch, too, because I'm just going kind of go out on a limb and say, i think that it's hypocritical that she still has the same style and still has the same stage presence as, you know, the old life.
Personal Tattoo Stories and Artistic Choices
00:32:41
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Of witchcraft and whatever. Because she still only wears black. And she's still. Just her physical appearance. Is still so counter. the Christian. Thing.
00:32:53
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I don't know. Because like she's also started to dress a lot more. like Puritanical. Yeah. She's more modest. It covers like every inch of her body. but Right. it's like The color of it doesn't really.
00:33:07
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Mean as much. it's you know It's clear to me that like. she's drifted away from her usual style, even if she's wearing like, you know, still mostly black.
00:33:18
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Yeah. I don't know. Um, it's just, it's, I don't know. I really don't know. And I can't like, I can't speak to her personal experience.
00:33:28
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Like, I don't know what's going on internally. We only know what's being publicized. Um, right. And I just don't like the signs that I'm seeing. Yeah.
00:33:39
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I get, very bad vibes so i i i do think i do think that her husband is probably the source of this deviation from her you know really cool inspirational self anyway how old is i don't know how old this album cover is but that's like that's kind of what i'm saying it's like it's still so totally opposite of what i don't know she claims to be believing so yeah and i just yeah i find it kind of laughable it's kind of weird it's like she's still trying to capitalize on that look and stuff i don't know well it's hard it's hard to move away from when she's you know based her whole branding around it yeah um
00:34:33
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You know, it it's kind of if she were to completely do a 180, it would be unrecognizable and sort of diminish the value of whatever she's trying to put out now. But um anyway, we're here to talk about tattoos.
00:34:47
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Right.
00:34:49
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Yeah. um Yeah. And like I said, I have way too many to even try to get into all of them. I don't want to try to get into all of them. right right um and also most of them don't even have like full-on meanings they just you know they look cool to me i liked the art i liked the artist right right but like you know the one that we got in 2022 that is matching that one doesn't even have meaning behind it it's just like our love of fall you know that that factored into that design right
00:35:29
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It's a nice great big pumpkin with a nice big crescent moon and bats, I think. Bats and leaves. I can't even look at mine straight on and neither can you, which is disappointing.
00:35:42
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um Like you can you can look at it in a mirror, but like I can't even look at mine in a mirror. Yeah, you got yours full color. I got mine black and gray.
00:35:55
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who and
00:35:58
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i don't know. I really enjoy it. I feel like it's just fucking cool.
00:36:04
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That's kind of the point. Really. I'm trying to think of any that have particular significant meaning.
The Moth Tattoo: Personal Significance
00:36:11
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Oh, the only one, the one that I have that's ah color.
00:36:15
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The only tattoo that I have in color. my moth yeah i uh i'm one of those bisexuals that gets a moth tattooed on the front of her thigh um
00:36:29
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and i wanted it in color because you know the coloring is part of the like clear identifiers of like what kind of a moth it is and it wasn't going to require a whole lot of colors it was just like a like a blue and like a bright bright bright orange that almost red mm-hmm And it's a Cecropia moth.
00:36:51
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And I just, I, ah again, i don't have a particular connection to them. I just saw one and I was like, that's gorgeous. And I loved it. But I had seen a thought that had been, you know, shared around the internet, ah probably originally from Tumblr, talking about The way that it's very important to use all of the things that are nice, all the all of the valuable things that are, maybe it's a neurodivergent thing, but like not wanting to use the nice things like candles and perfumes and, um you know, wanting to preserve them, wanting to stockpile them.
00:37:36
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and always have them available to be used rather than actually using them. um Stickers also actually falls into this category. um Not wanting to like stick stickers on anything because like, then you can't take it off without ruining it.
00:37:50
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Yeah. um And, and the, the ending of this point, like the last sentence that this person wrote said very simply,
00:38:03
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you can't pin joy like a moth. Right. And i saw that and i was like, Oh my God, that is true.
00:38:14
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It is truth. It is important to remember. And so when I saw this Cecropia moth in a video and was just like astounded by how beautiful it was, i was like, Oh,
00:38:32
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I want to get that tattooed and it's going to remind me to use the things that make me happy huh to, to enjoy the things that are meant to be enjoyed.
00:38:44
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So that, I don't know. That's probably one of the more important meanings behind any of my tattoos, I think.
00:38:55
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Yeah. I love that. So, you know, what's happening in this October
Upcoming Tattoo Plans and Excitement
00:39:03
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Yes, we do. Well, I do. Yeah. Well, I had to spring it on me here about a week or so ago, a couple weeks ago, um because I'm going to be out.
00:39:15
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for the Anaharas 2025 in October, which is the week of my birthday. So she had to tell me that she made a an appointment for us to get tattooed on my birthday.
00:39:30
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And I'm like, Oh my God. So I've been recently obsessing about the person who we are booked to go see and trying to pick a piece of flash to get done.
00:39:42
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y'all um and there's only a specific he only has like a small kind of collection of flash that he does which is uh mostly florally looking yeah a lot of botanicals that are really cool yeah yeah and i have been wrecking my brains trying to figure out what i'm gonna pick yeah i i honestly like i had thought of this and made the plan and like really considered holding on to the surprise until like very last minute and then I was like you know what she can't decide about anything for shit so I better give some time yeah that's a good idea and I'm very grateful for that yeah because I've had multiple ideas that I've like
00:40:29
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like totally a dad adapt whatever ah adopted to like myself and then trashed right right so yeah the most recent one was you know like i love anthony bourdain and like he had a couple tattoos on the fronts of his shoulders.
00:40:47
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right And, um, I was like, Oh, you know, I'd like to get something like that, similar to that. Like, and I would probably eventually like to do that. But, um, but what are on his shoulders was one was a skull and the other one was sort of like a circular shape of vine or some kind of thing like that. But then I was like, Oh, there's that circular shaped vine.
00:41:11
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That is a piece of flash I could, I could choose. Yeah, that's true. But um anyway, so yeah, if these ideas are still rolling around in my noggin, so I'm very grateful to have the ah the time to mull it over and decide.
00:41:29
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who I thought about maybe doing one of the flower type designs on the front of my bicep going up to my shoulder.
00:41:40
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Yeah. To have the flower part be the main main part of the shoulder area there yeah and something like that i don't know yeah yeah yeah i'm like so excited and so nervous what are you nervous about he's not cheap oh didn't you say like if you pick the flash no like the flash is still the the flash is still pretty expensive okay I got quotes from him. Well, a quote, because i when I was talking to him, I didn't know what you were going to get.
00:42:17
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So, um yeah, it's not cheap. And so I'm just like... um I can probably chip in. It'll still be worthwhile, but... of I've been anxious that's part of why I've been so anxious I'm just like oh my god how are we gonna pay for this why did I do this to myself but at the same time it's always worth it because it's art you get to keep forever yeah so I don't want you to stress out about it no I'm I'll be fine like I I'm always fine I always end up fine it's fine yeah
00:42:54
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But yeah. So any other thoughts that you had on tattoos? I don't know. I love tattoos. I don't know if I'll ever get to a point of like, I don't want to get any more tattoos or I only want to be covered completely in tattoos or any of that.
00:43:14
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um I've just been going with the flow when I get an itch.
Tattoo Philosophies: Art and Collection
00:43:19
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Yeah. I, I, I, you know, start looking into doing something, but yeah that's about it um yeah and i mean that's probably the best way to do it you know to go with the flow to go with what you want to go with your intuition like i want i would love to be like heavily heavily tattooed like i would love to be covered but you know it's a lot of money dude it's really only easy to
00:43:48
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to to get covered with tattoos on the cheap if you are friends with a lot of tattoo artists and that's probably how Kat Von D got as tattooed as she was so early on in life yeah um that's exactly actually how she you know how she got there um but like I'm just you know contenting myself with adding to my collection when I can you know it it is economical if you get like multiple at once. And so I've done that now a couple times um where I've gotten two or three at the same, in the same session yeah that are, you know, on the smaller side, because that's, you know, you don't want to overdo it and like pass out, you know, from the pain or exhaustion because it is mentally exhausting to be,
00:44:40
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under the needle for long periods of time. Yeah. I think that this one did that to me. um one Yeah. I think that's like your like biggest, most intricate one.
00:44:52
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Yeah. um That makes total sense. Yeah. I had a hard time with the, ah the sunflowers on my shoulder, mostly because there's just so many lines and you had to go back over and over the same places like so much. And also you know, anywhere that's like close to the bone is pretty painful and right on the shoulder is fucking painful.
00:45:13
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Like this one, the shoulder, my, those three sunflowers took fucking five hours at least. Wow. And, uh, you know, my, my, uh, cat skull with mushrooms didn't even take that long.
00:45:28
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Weird. Um, yeah. So same artist, right? Yeah. Yeah, seam artist. But yeah, it is challenging. So you don't you always want to be able to pace yourself.
00:45:40
Speaker
But I do like to get multiple in one sitting if I can. So, yeah, it's good. Yeah. Tattoos.
00:45:51
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yeah We did it. is yeah Yeah. Those are our thoughts on tattoos. And this has been short, probably, and sweet and concise.
00:46:04
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um it's mostly we're we're on a schedule so way less bullshitting than usual in this episode and it's uh hopefully no less interesting for it yeah um but you know we're we're doing the best we can and uh it's fun it's enjoyable i like it love it i love it i like it i love it i want some more of it i try so hard I can't rise above it.
00:46:34
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Oh my
Closing Remarks and Social Media Interaction
00:46:35
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00:46:48
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00:48:10
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00:48:14
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And yeah, join us again next week when we are probably a little more bullshitty ADHD than we were today. Yeah. Also, also yeah happy birthday to me.
00:48:28
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