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55. To Nourish The Soul
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What kinds of things can nourish the soul? And how can we make more time for them? This week we explored our concepts of self-care on a deeper level and how our views align and diverge.
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Hosts: Christina Bell & Molly Wilde
Music: The Confrontation, by Jonathan Boyle, licensed from Premium Beats by Shutterstock
Editing: Molly Wilde
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Technical Difficulties & Podcast Milestones
00:00:25
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It froze while you were doing it, so it was like this for like five seconds. Oh my god. Why are we freezing? freeze out of retrograde.
00:00:38
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Yeah. But, I mean, our internet's never been great. Well, our connection's never been, like, perfect. Yeah. And it's been proving that to be more true every day.
00:00:51
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ah no Why? Indeed. anyway. But we're here now. Apologies if you hear like fans blowing in the background of either of our recordings because we both have a box fan or something going like on us.
00:01:08
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It is summertime and we are hot. Yeah. And the air conditioning does not keep up. No ma'am. Don't know why. it is it's once again a case of we are human.
00:01:21
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who It is what it is. But yeah. So we're here. We're back again. And Christina, you want to you want to mention the special occasion?
00:01:34
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oh yeah, dude. We are low-key celebrating our one-year anniversary doing the podcast. Whee! Whee! Yes, ah we are recording this on August 12th, we first published our you know our first three episodes on August 13th last year.
00:01:58
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So it was a Tuesday, so today's a Tuesday, so it's kind of the anniversary, but tomorrow's like the official anniversary. Yeah. and it's fucking surreal, man.
00:02:10
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I know, dude, a whole year. Wow. Wow.
Entertainment Industry Insights
00:02:15
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wild and wild that like i mean it's just it's crazy to think about like i mean milestones right so like just a month ago ish we were celebrating with by like via an episode celebrating our the fiftieth episode and now here we are celebrating one year of publishing episodes so soon afterward yeah yeah and yet it it really does feel like
00:02:44
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yesterday that we started it sure the hell does but nope we are on episode 55 now yay we're just rolling rolling rolling oh goodness what that song what's what song oh well anyhow you wouldn't wouldn't know you're too young i guess is it wait i i can hear it in my head but i don't know what it's from or what it is okay i don't know what it's from technically either except for there was a funny movie in the 80s called city slickers that i loved okay and you got billy crystal on a horse and
00:03:21
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Oh, on a horse. Uh-huh. They're on one of those cowboy retreats. Riding horses. And he starts singing, rollin rollland rolling, rolling.
00:03:32
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Yeah. Keep those doggies rolling. my ass is swollen. Ride! Something like that.
00:03:43
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It's not exact, but it was, it always makes me fucking laugh. Oh my god. I love Billy Crystal. I love Oh God. I love him so much.
00:03:54
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Yeah. Nothing beats miracle. Max. Oh, love miracle. Max. I'm not a witch. I'm your wife.
00:04:06
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And I'm not sure want to be dead anymore. Carol Kane. my god but yeah carol kane She played Madame Morrible in the first show, like the first time I saw Wicked on Broadway.
00:04:26
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Actually, the only time I saw it on Broadway. I've seen it and on Broadway and I've seen it on the West End, in the West End. Okay. In London. Interesting. And when I saw it on Broadway, Carole Kane was Madame Morrible.
00:04:40
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That's amazing. Yeah. i would that but She was the only person I recognized on the cast list. And it's amazing that at 14 years old, I recognized her. Definitely.
00:04:52
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Yeah. i reckon I had to point it out to my mom. I was just like, that's Carol Kane. just saw her. She's The Princess Spread. She's in something I've seen recently and I just was like, oh my god, she's looking so old.
00:05:06
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um And I cannot think of what it was. It's crazy because like Was she not that old when she she when she was in The Princess Bride? Well, I mean, that was in the know they didn say like they made her up to look real old, but like... I mean, she had to Was she not that old? Probably in her 50s or so.
00:05:26
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Right. what she shouldn't She didn't look like she was in her 90s. Right. but Like, sprightly like a witch.
00:05:35
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But that's what I need. guys look um Was she that young at the time? Because, you know, if she's if you're commenting, she's looking old. I'm like, well, shouldn't she be?
00:05:46
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Well, shit. She's only 73. Damn, dude. She's only 73. What see her recently? God dang but that i see her in recently god dan it I have to look it up because bugs me when i can't remember stuff.
00:06:01
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You know what? I saw Superman ah week and a half ago and the guy who plays Superman, I swear to God, I've seen him in something recently. And yet I looked up his credits and nothing he's been in. i have seen um aside from Superman. He's been in notable things, but nothing that I've actually seen.
00:06:21
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And so it's, that's driving me crazy.
00:06:25
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um interesting i did recognize the actor that played lex luther though that was a wild a wild moment for me her um just because he was in ah movie that i loved that came out in 2013 called uh warm bodies okay he played a like young hot hot zombie and boy and uh i remember just sort of registering in my head like he must be about my age like he's he's you know young like that and and then to see him playing like an iconic villain and like playing at being like i don't know not necessarily middle-aged but i always think of lex luther as being a middle-aged man yeah
00:07:15
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And to be like, oh, and then to actually look up his, you know, info. And he was only born in 1989, you know, like the end of 1989. So like two and a half ish years older than me.
00:07:30
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Huh. Or one and a half. I don't know. What's math? I don't know. um Two and a half, I think. Yeah. or Not younger, older, older than me. Yeah. I don't remember what I said now.
00:07:41
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Point being, like, it's just bizarre because that that would make him 35 right now. when
00:07:53
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was 20, 35 was old. my god. And now I'm like, oh, shit, I'm almost there. What?
00:08:06
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but the
00:08:10
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you're gonna laugh when i tell you what i saw her in carol cane yeah yeah what because i just figured it out what she's in the latest star trek series called strange new worlds oh and john was going gaga over this one episode that was like the entire thing was a musical uh-huh Because, i don't know, it was part of the plot that music helped something happen or something, I don't know, whatever it was.
00:08:42
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So, like, everybody started getting musical and singing. And so, like, they sang through the entire episode. Interesting. He played that for me. He played me that episode because he liked it so much. and He was like, it was so he's like, you know, so creative and it was so like, well done. And yeah, he doesn't like musicals.
00:08:59
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So I thought it was hilarious that he loved this episode so much. Yeah. But yeah, she was she was in that. and i ah In that particular episode or was she likes in the whole show?
00:09:13
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No, she's in the whole series. But yeah, she was in that episode and that's how I remember seeing her going and thinking, now today I'm going, I don't remember what it was I saw her in. Because I don't like Star Trek and I'm not a fan of that shit. said she was what for? 73. 73? So what year did Princess Bride come out? 87. 87.
00:09:28
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what for so three seventy three so but year did prince bri ca eighty seven So she was way younger. She was 20 something. Yeah.
00:09:43
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Oh my God. but yeah They really made her up to look older than she is now. Damn. Uh huh. Wow. Yeah. That's wild.
00:09:56
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Wow. Anyway. What we talking about today, Christina?
Nourishing the Soul: Beyond Self-Care
00:10:02
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I don't know some shit. I'm kidding.
00:10:10
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I don't know how to word it. i We never do. we never do.
00:10:19
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Well.
00:10:22
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You word it the way that I phrased it in the message. i said why I can't. I can't because I can't remember how you phrased it. So that's why I'm like. um Okay. I guess I got ah you can read it read it off the phone god will you'll you'll know ye listeners will know but based on the title of this episode that i come up with somehow but uh here's what we're here's how we're phrasing it right now what nourishes our souls and how can we make more time for those things
00:10:56
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Mm-hmm. And it's like, honestly, you know, initially when I thought of doing this, I was like, okay, so is it self-care that we're talking about? Or is it like just very literally exactly what you just stated? Because self-care to me goes, i think, a little deeper than this.
00:11:18
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Does that make sense? Mm-mm. I think of self-care. So when I think of self-care, i don't only think of... like you know bubble baths and like ice cream and stuff it like they sure it can be those things but like so long i have gone seeing the discourse about like self-care is also setting and maintaining boundaries and cutting people off who are toxic and you know prioritizing yourself and like in you know the hard ways um and so like
00:11:53
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That's now how I think of self-care. But that doesn't necessarily fit the the definition of what nourishes the soul. Right. I mean, it could, you know, it certainly nourishes the soul to cut off toxic people yeah by not draining the soul actively.
00:12:13
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But like, you know, it's it's it it's in a different category. Yeah. Yeah. To me, nourishing the soul, those words carry gravity in in a way that like self-care, the word self-care doesn't.
00:12:29
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Interesting. So we're having opposite experiences here. Yeah. It feels like more deep to me. like not i like I think that the effect can be deep, but like the action doesn't have to be. Does that make sense?
00:12:44
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So self-care can definitely be the things that you already listed. who um But I think there are just a million things that can fall under self-care. There are, yeah.
00:13:01
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I mean, like, everything that I'm going to list, all the notes that I've taken, could also fall under self-care. They just have, like, a different function in my mind. Okay. Or, like, a... they they yeah I don't know.
00:13:13
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Anyway... Yeah. So continue, please. Sorry. Oh, okay. I didn't mean to like cut you off. No, it's fine. i I didn't think you did.
00:13:24
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To me, nourishing the soul is like showing yourself a deeper level of I don't know why this word is popping in my head because it shouldn't be babying yourself.
00:13:37
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That's not what i mean. um Like really just like really gentle. Really treating yourself the best you could possibly be treated. You know what I'm saying? Like giving yourself, giving the deepest level of yourself the things that it needs the most. And so you're going really deep down when you're talking about the soul. You know what i mean? um That's why those words feel heavier to me. but like Okay.
00:14:06
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there's so many things you could be doing. I mean, everyone's different and everyone's going to have a different idea of what that means. For sure. Yeah. You know, even just reading educate yourself on a different level, like reading about yeah spiritual things or philosophical or, you know, whatever topics that really like nurture your inner being.
00:14:31
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i think that you really need to get in touch with your own body and your mind, your you know your inner sense of peace and well-being in order to know what the things are that you need to give yourself.
00:14:48
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It's like and like i said, going to be different for everybody. Right. Yeah. So for you, a big one would be reading and learning types of stuff.
00:15:00
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Definitely. things that i learned you know educate educating myself about something um also just quiet time by myself is huge yeah that's like i think that is very literally like neurodivergent need like I don't know how it is for neurotypicals, but like neurodivergence, we need our like horizontal in the dark time.
00:15:34
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Like literally, even if it's just like, you know, for 10 minutes to get me through the day. Yeah. I mean, yeah. For me, because I don't have a lot of horizontal alone in the dark time, it would be like going and finding somewhere to sit in my car. Yeah.
00:15:52
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Where there's no people, not many people around. yeah And listening to some music that really like nurtures my essence. yeah Yeah. Or soothes you.
00:16:05
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Yeah, for sure. That was definitely like what's popping in my head. is like When was visualizing myself in my when i was um visualizing myself in my own home when I kind of when I was shopping for a place but also like through the like you know mortgage approval process while I was like I had the place you know had an offer on it and you know was locking it down but like it was not the longest process but like a longer process it was like a month and a half or two months
00:16:43
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during that time I was like to keep me from getting too stressed out because it was ah stressful process I would imagine situations like that like you know cocooning myself on my couch and watching Downton Abbey for hours and hours and hours you know just like being a little burrito and enjoying that beautiful intro music the and just being like this is my home i am at peace
00:17:14
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Yeah. Like, there's no, like, screaming and shouting and video game noises coming from downstairs. You know? Uh-huh. There's no, like, the just the living alone, for sure, is, like, a thing that's, like, ah if I'm, if I live with anybody else, it doesn't seem to matter who that person is.
00:17:37
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i am always hyper aware of their existence, and I cannot relax while they're also At home or even when they're not at home, because it's always I'm always on edge about like when they're going to get home.
00:17:49
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and Yeah. yeah, maybe I'll just be alone the rest of my life and you won't have to worry about me potentially getting married, because if they're if I can't find anybody who like doesn't stress me out in that way, I'm not doing it.
00:18:05
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you Right. Oh, my God. oh i know. Yeah. Yep. hu but yeah like actually it's interesting that you said though backing up a little bit like the like reading and learning and educating yourself like i had written down the first thing i had written down on my notes here was skill development uh-huh um and like also attached to that ah put actually seeing improvement
00:18:38
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Like, cause there's like, I can't just be satisfied with like the ingesting of information. Like I have to actually like see the results of it to feel like satisfied, to feel like I'm nourished as it were. Okay. um But like skill development, which would include educating myself in whatever capacity, like whatever subject matter.
00:19:04
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Whether it's spiritual or not, like it's you know still furthering my like development as a person. For sure. i was just going to say, I don't believe in my own my own way, you know who philosophy about this topic, if you will. yeah i don't I wouldn't ever want to put a thing like a goal.
00:19:26
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Like a goal? There has to be a... You're saying like you need to see some improvement in something for it to feel like it's nourishing you. to me i wouldn't want to make there make there have to be an end game or a goal to the nourishing yeah it because it kind adds level of stress to it where i wouldn't want that to be yeah you know part of it that's interesting because i specifically didn't think of goals like and i don't consider seeing improvement to be the same thing as like a goal or achieving a goal i think of it more as like a
00:20:02
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Like I need the satisfaction of knowing that whatever I'm, you know, whatever information I'm taking in, whatever way it is, like that it is actually like improving my life or changing things.
00:20:16
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You know, what about developing a skill? Like you said, well, that's, that's what I mean. Like to develop a skill, I have to actually develop the skill. Like a goal. Don't you think that's a goal?
00:20:27
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Not really. No. Cause I think of a goal as like a measurable thing. Whereas like, it's like, noticeable to me is different than measurable. Okay. You know, or it's like, Oh, like I know that I can do this now and I've gotten better at it rather than being like, you know, don't know. I can only think of goals in terms of like exercise. It's like, ah, I managed to run a mile in less than 10 minutes.
00:20:52
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Like, you know, like that's a measurable thing, but it's like, you know, if it's like, Oh, I am going running like, like each day it's getting easier and each day I can go a little further or a little longer or whatever.
00:21:10
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Like I'm not measuring, I'm just noticing. And then I'm noticing like the other side effects, like, you know, like the, you know, better stamina or whatever, the better endurance in general in my life, like that kind of thing, rather than being like, I've set these timers and I'm like, you know, counting on this and that and like, blah, blah, blah.
00:21:32
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No, that's that's that's what I think of as a goal. And i agree that's stressful. And that's not what I'm talking about when I say seeing improvement. Okay. So, but anyway, that's like hella nitty gritty.
Inspiration Through Observing Others
00:21:47
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That's literally only one of the points that I had written down. Okay. um I want to hear the rest then. Well, interestingly, like on the topic of goals though,
00:22:01
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watching others work toward and attain their goals such as like youtube people that like are like i'm documenting my journey like blah blah i really enjoy doing that and it's like a little bit of like inspiration porn but i'm not even gonna like i'm not gonna get down on myself about making that sound like it's like a frivolous thing like i think inspiration whatever like whatever you take inspiration from is a positive thing and it's not just like a oh like all you do is just get inspired and you never actually change it's like who cares who cares fuck off it makes me feel good to watch other people like achieve their dreams sure you know or even if it's just like small little things but like may have a direct impact on your life just to feel good for somebody else doing something good yeah and just to enjoy the like watching them like go through their process exactly yeah
00:23:01
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good like my current fixation kind of is uh this woman on youtube who is like maybe five or so years older than you christina i'm not sure exactly and she has been documenting her search for ah chateau in france really and then renovate Oh, that sounds interesting. And she's, I've, I've, I've watched from like the start of her channel. So like, I'm watching like from the beginning of the journey. So I'm several months behind, but like,
00:23:39
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From what I can tell, she has actually purchased one and is starting renovations. oh nice Oh, nice. And she's like a fucking cool chick, dude. Why haven't you told me about this woman already? Because it's literally only been like 24 hours.
00:23:54
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Oh, my God. You make it sound like you've been watching her for a couple of months now. watched like 10 of her videos. I watched a ton of them last night. my God. You are so funny. Her channel's called Go Go Chateau.
00:24:05
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but Okay. And she's super, she's very just like groovy. Is she American? Groovy chick. Yeah. Oh yeah. She's from California originally, I believe. um But she's like really, really styled out, like super fashionable.
00:24:21
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ah Like she's always got these cool glasses. She's got this like, you know, dyed black probably, but still really cool black hair. um That's like long and gorgeous and just always has the coolest outfits on and She's cool and groovy, but she's also, like, fully, you know, aware of her, like, awkwardness and, like, you know, feeling uncomfortable. She'll acknowledge, like, you know, she acknowledged multiple times, like, the literal process of getting comfortable filming herself in public um when she was going around, like, you know.
00:24:58
Speaker
she didn't just start out like all right time to like shop for shadows she just like she started out like touring them and staying in them and like asking people questions and like you know just getting information and immersing herself into like the scene and the culture do you happen upon her toc ahha TikTok first and I realized that she had a YouTube channel and I was like I would rather watch her on YouTube than on TikTok. so Sweet.
00:25:29
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Yeah. i i do enjoy and For stuff like this I enjoy longer form videos. So yeah.
00:25:41
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She's cool. Her name is Morgan. But I just think are think of her as GoGoChateau. GoGoGirl. go, go girl. um But yeah, like watching her, I'm like, this is fun. I like this.
00:25:56
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Yeah. It's like, i you know, there's, there is like a fine line where it's like, okay, some I have in the past and I think I've gotten better about this in general. Like I've struggled with like this feeling of envy sometimes watching people like achieve their goals and, or just live their lives. And you're sort of being like, man,
00:26:18
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I wish I could do that, you know? yeah But I think I've gotten better about that. Yeah. in In my old age. Yeah.
Sensory Pleasures & Physical Exertion
00:26:30
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Yeah. But this one, I'm just like, man, I would love a Chateau. ah but like, I don't feel any sort of envy in watching her do this. Yeah.
00:26:40
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I just feel good because it's like, damn, she's doing it. She's like achieving her dreams. In a way it is like inspiration though. Not just envy. It's inspiration. Yeah, exactly. And it's not like necessarily that I'm about to go out and be inspired and try to figure out how to fucking and buy a chateau right now.
00:26:58
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But like, you know, it's cool. It's cool to watch people do their things. Yeah. And live their lives. Yeah. And just be be a normal person doing extraordinary things, you know?
00:27:14
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For sure. Yeah. Yep. So that's nourishing your soul. yeah You got more on the list. Yeah, we we do got more on the list. Keep going. you You want me to keep going?
00:27:26
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Yeah. Okay. You don't want to. I want to hear your list. Let's talk about it. so So I've got the next the thing on the list is like a mini list, a sub list. ah Sensory pleasure.
00:27:37
Speaker
And that's not just sex. Like all all senses. Interesting. um Scent, taste, physical comfort, sound. Visual, yes, kind of. Although like visually I tend to get overstimulated.
00:27:54
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So I'm like less pulled toward visual. But like. you know I can still appreciate beauty, art. you know art Yeah, was going to say if it's like a museum or an art gallery.
00:28:04
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Yeah, I get over-simulated at museums so fast. oh i'm just like It's all like blurring in front of my face. i'm just like I don't know what I'm seeing. i'd like It's it's like literal blind. but like The way that like you can become nose blind by like having too many perfumes thrown at you.
00:28:22
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If I get too many like pieces of artwork thrown at me, i become like even though I'm still seeing, i'm like blind. You know, what's really funny is when I like, and I've been to museums, so I understand what you're saying, but for some odd reason, when I picture visiting a museum for the purpose of just enjoying it or chilling the fuck out or whatever, who I'm always thinking of just being in one spot and staying there. Like when you're talking about like,
00:28:55
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When you reflect on a memory of being in a museum or when you think of wanting to go to a museum. Like just the concept of going to one for the purpose of chilling out or okay just appreciating art in general.
00:29:11
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Like finding the area that you like or the one piece of art that you really like and just sitting there. and chilling fuck out and looking at it see that's so interesting because like i know there are people out there who for them that's like their standard like that's automatically what they think yeah but like i i grew up in this family of go go goers who was like we must see all the things go speed marathon fast like like that power walk through the museum like yeah we're gonna do the Louvre in one day it's not possible we're doing it anyway yes we went to the Louvre oh my god i was I literally i cannot think of I can think of aside from the fucking Mona Lisa which is over fucking rated but everyone says that that's not a not an uncommon opinion
00:29:59
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ah
00:30:02
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I can only remember um winged victory the statue which is I've seen a hundred pictures of her anyway.
00:30:12
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so like I can picture her anyway, but like seeing her was cool as shit. And the painting that had been on the album cover for Coldplay's Viva La Vida that I can't remember the name of, but I knew it was in the Louvre. And I was like, well, that's the one thing I want to make sure that I see.
00:30:33
Speaker
I don't remember anything else from the Louvre because I was so overstimulated. Wow. Well, you know, that isn't exactly the best way to go through a museum, but that's just what it was. No, not. It's It's like, you know what? is or was what it was. it's for the neurotypicals.
00:30:50
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Maybe. Yeah. But it's like, if I want to enjoy a museum, i can't do that. Anybody who wants to appreciate art, though, isn't necessarily going to like, enjoy running through one at breakneck speed. No, I know. gla But it's like, it was the same. It was the same situation whenever we visited New York City, which is like half the reason I fucking hate New York City now.
00:31:12
Speaker
is that it was like even no matter how many times we had been before whenever we went it was always like a you know marathon to hit and see all the major sightseeing things that we had seen a hundred times before a by literally running through the city rather than taking cabs or trains that's insane dude new york city dude it's it's not fun it it it was never fun Because that was the only way to experience that. It was the only way that I was permitted to experience it until I was an adult.
00:31:44
Speaker
And by that point, I didn't want to go to New York city anyway. Right. But the two times in my adult life that I have been to New York city, like on my own, very specifically to my friends that I was visiting, because there was no other reason why I would go, I very specifically was like, I don't want to see a fucking damn single touristy thing.
00:32:05
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do not take me to a touristy thing. Take me to your favorite spots as a local. Oh, for sure. Or that's what i want ah let's get takeout and and hang out in your apartment.
00:32:16
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Or I'll say this, because I've never been to New York, I would probably want to see some of the touristy things, but not like all of them. But it would definitely be more important to me to see what they like to do go where they like to go.
00:32:31
Speaker
Right. Yeah. Yeah. And like for someone who's never been, i say for sure, see what you want to see. But don't just like pick a list of touristy things like go through and like be like, I don't care about that. The Empire State Building. I don't need to see that.
00:32:48
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But then be like, but it'd be cool to see the Statue of Liberty. Like, you know, like, yeah, that kind of thing. Like, don't just like take a list of what's the most popular things to go see and then see it every single time that you go. Right. Right.
00:33:00
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Yeah. And I'd say that about any place, but New York City is like the problem for me in in my life experience. Yeah. um Also that, and I just fucking hate cities in general.
00:33:10
Speaker
Yeah. And it's like, that's the city-est city there is. Well, we took you downtown Detroit a tiny bit. know. I was i was not. I didn't love it. But you got to go see Third Man Records.
00:33:22
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Sure. But there was parking. Okay. We could we could like pull up, park, and stay there and like... and like walk in and then walk out and leave yeah we didn't have to like go like even thinking of going into boston i have to like logistically plan and like go you know park at a train station outside the city take the train into the city like and i i can stand boston probably because i lived there like i don't know museums and or cities are like mostly visually overstimulating but also like bodily like i'm just sort of like
00:33:57
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it's it's it's the crowds really too so I can i can enjoy like a very empty museum um because I can feel comfortable going at my own pace and like you know whatever but most like for the other senses like indulging in like the pleasures of the other senses is like i maybe that's where I like put the caveat that it might sound a little ah surface level but like it really it just soothes me and it's like if I can soothe my nervous system my my soul has a better chance at thriving yeah that makes sense yeah absolutely who
00:34:43
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so there's that and then also even physical discomfort as in the satisfaction of like soreness that comes from like working your body hard like find of like like gratification from that feeling and so like i i think it's mostly also from the source of whatever it was that i was doing because if like if i had to do like a whole bunch of manual labor that was miserable then i don't enjoy the soreness of you know for sure end result as much but like if i've worked out you know and oh like that time that i um
00:35:24
Speaker
Do you remember when I, the first time I took like that boxing class and it was only me that had signed up. Yeah. And the instructor was that dude from like behind the iron curtain.
00:35:37
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It was like a one-on-one boxing training session with this man. yeah And it was like, I couldn't walk for like two days after that, even though it was challenging afterward, it was really gratifying because I was like,
00:35:53
Speaker
I know I worked hard and I loved it. hu You know, like that kind of thing is really satisfying. Or when you would do your hikes. Yeah. Yeah.
Music & Food as Soul Nourishment
00:36:03
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And I don't even, I mean, like i probably would now because I've been so out of it lately, but you know, the year that I was doing a ton of hikes, like regularly, almost every single weekend, like I didn't even really feel that much soreness.
00:36:19
Speaker
either either way that's that was probably nourishing your soul for sure yeah and like that actually sort of factors into like the other sensory stuff like sound like because i you know put like storms or like birds or nature sounds in general as like the kinds of things that like soothe me and make me feel like my soul is being nourished yeah um as well as music but that's like a given Even, you know, depending on the mood, but, like, you know, it doesn't even have to be just, like, relaxing music like Enya.
00:36:51
Speaker
the You know, because I'm out here feeling, like, honestly, sometimes I feel the most at peace when I've got, like, you know, Slipknot or, like, Gojira blasting through my car speakers.
00:37:04
Speaker
I am, like, completely zen because my, like, internal, like, angry little anger fireman from Inside Out. Ha ha ha!
00:37:15
Speaker
is happy do you remember christina ablegate's character in dead to me uh-huh yeah get in the car and blasts like speed metal or some shit or scream rage you know me too metal music yeah oh my god yeah literally literally sometimes that's the thing that soothes me it just sort of like calm it like brings me into a centered place and it's you know but it's like it's not all the time you know but like sometimes sometimes it really does the trick sometimes it's the only thing that does the trick that's awesome
00:37:52
Speaker
Oh my gosh. um Yeah, it's funny because like when you're you're talking about senses, it's so weird. There are certain foods that when I eat them, I feel like my soul is being nurtured because... Yeah.
00:38:06
Speaker
Or nourished. Is it soul food? No. Really? I've never had actual soul food. Well, I mean... I've had fried chicken, but no, I'm not, I'm not big into fried chicken. No, I'm talking about healthier foods that are like Mediterranean foods.
00:38:22
Speaker
Stuff like that you can like feel like, you know, you can feel the nourishing in your body. Yeah. And then it feels like it's also nourishing your soul. I think it's more than just psychological. It's like, while I'm eating the food, it's like, i literally feel different inside while I'm eating it. It's like,
00:38:40
Speaker
this Like your body's finally getting like the vitamins and minerals that it's been craving. Yeah. And so it's like giving you the satisfaction sensation. yeah It's just, there's a whole different feel to it than eating just any old regular right American fare, if you will. But yeah. Yeah.
00:38:58
Speaker
Yeah. Totally. Yeah. So almost like eating a bunch of Mexican village salsa because there's salsa. Yeah.
00:39:09
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my god okay we're gonna definitely go and eat a gallon of salsa when we go there so excited yeah yeah yeah we're planning molly's trip out here are we are we gonna record it all while you're here and that's what i was hoping for i don't know what we're gonna record or how often i don't want to like stress ourselves out over it but like i would like to yeah so So yeah anyway, side that was just a little sidebar.
00:39:34
Speaker
Sorry. Yeah. My burst morphify ah birthday. birthday. oh yeah Yeah. Just a short little trip, but it'll be good. Yeah. And we're supposed to go see a concert that night.
00:39:46
Speaker
Yeah. The first night. Can't wait. see Can't wait. Yeah. So like, this is a weird little goofy thing, but today, you know, I've been, I've been kind of not just today, but like in general lately, I've been a little concerned about my nails because,
00:40:04
Speaker
um a brand name that we love that shall remain nameless. Right. So do not say it. Uh, we love very much, but it is not doing good things for my nails. Unfortunately.
00:40:16
Speaker
um I did happen to do a Google search and found that there are other people who have complained of the same thing. So it's not just me, but, um, I just was like, you know, I really just want to get my nails healthy again. So I'm going to look at products I can buy that are going to help my nails.
00:40:34
Speaker
Um, um grow better and look better and be stronger and blah blah so i went to CVS about a couple little Sally Hansen products that I know i've used Sally Hansen in the past um and I remember my grandma used to be a big proponent of that brand. They're like an old classic brand.
00:40:55
Speaker
Yeah. But they make some good nail strengthening products and stuff. yeah I got a little like it's it's not a cuticle oil but it's it basically behaves the same way.
00:41:07
Speaker
It's got vitamins and stuff in it. You just put a little drop and just rub it into your fingernails and cuticles and whatnot. and And then I got another thing that's just a good nail strengthening product.
00:41:22
Speaker
Even though I have a product that I use on my nails that helps them grow and be healthy, I wanted a little something else extra. Yeah.
00:41:32
Speaker
But anyway, I'm going to get my nails in much better shape, and then I will use that brand we love, but I will have a couple other layers of other polishes underneath first. Yeah, like or like a base coat type of thing. Yeah, that makes sense. At least a couple layers. Yeah, yeah.
00:41:48
Speaker
um So yeah, anyway, that was, to me, it was like, I really want to take care of my my hands. I mean, my hands are... getting more arthritic and painful and um they used to be one of the things that I loved about myself like physically speaking um ah used to love my hands they just love you know they look i i thought i had pretty hands let's just put it that way and i loved them and now they don't look the same to me they're looking older and they hurt and i'm just like i need to take care of my little thingies so that can feel a little bit better about them but that's i get it a minor little
00:42:29
Speaker
yeah nourishing thing yeah um it's like a similar vein like i was just like i've been thinking about like the need for a pedicure like i need a pedicure so so bad and i've like not been able to bring myself to justify spending the money on it like yeah i like i just cannot make myself do it and so Like, it's really tough because I need the kind... I don't i don't just need, like, a pedicure where I go and, like, you know, they paint my toenails.
00:43:00
Speaker
Like, I need, like, the kind where they, like... use a cheese grater on my feet, you know? Like, it's just because, ah same as you, I have always felt like my feet are really pretty.
00:43:14
Speaker
And like, to be honest, I've, I, it's not, uh, been outside my consideration to, wait, I double negative myself. Sorry. Uh, to be honest, it's,
00:43:27
Speaker
I have definitely considered like an only fans for feet pics. Cause I'm like, my feet are actually really pretty, but like not right now because they're all like dead skin. Nothing is, it's just gross. And I'm like, oh yeah, it's okay.
00:43:51
Speaker
But you can get manis if you want paddy pennies. I mean, if you want, when you come, That's an idea. Because we did that together one time before. we did and i think it was the last time I was there.
00:44:02
Speaker
Probably. think it was. that I think that might have been the last time I ever got a pedicure. Oh my goodness. It might have been mine too. Honestly, it's been a long time. I don't do pedis.
00:44:13
Speaker
I'm not normal regular pedicure person. I would, i would do them more often than manicures. If I just, again, if I felt like I could justify spending the money, um, it's, you know, it's more soothing, more relaxing again with the sensory like pleasure. Yeah. Um, and just more needed.
00:44:34
Speaker
It's easier. Like I can take care of my hands myself easier, like, you know, with lotion and whatever, what have you, but like, I don't know.
00:44:45
Speaker
Feet are just a different story. So. Yep. Just easier to take them to the professionals. Let's plan it. Let's do it. Yeehaw. Yeah. That's good.
00:44:56
Speaker
I like it. So. We're. To get to the second half of the ah prompt. That you had entered. How. Do we make time.
Incorporating Soul-Nourishing Activities
00:45:09
Speaker
For all this stuff. Hmm. And I do have an answer for ah portion of mine. Honestly, I had it in in my head. And honestly, it it has like come as like a piece of just good advice in general for like the things like sensory pleasure, like to implement those things while doing other things, like putting on you know, music that is soothing you
00:45:40
Speaker
Lighting the incense. we Actually, we talked about that this week. yeah I lit some incense before we started, actually. ah But, like, you can light incense and just have it burn while you're working from home or doing a chore or, yeah you know, like, whatever. just candle. Even when you're fucking but watching TV. Yeah, or a scented candle. I like incense. I think incense is just it' more pleasant.
00:46:05
Speaker
ah Well, I don't know. That's not true. Scented candles are also lovely, but don't know. There's something more ritualistic to me about an incense. Sure. Sometimes I'll do a combo.
00:46:16
Speaker
I'll do both. he Just really get it all smoky up in this bitch. Or just light a big sage bundle like burn shit out of some.
00:46:28
Speaker
Yeah. but Although those are harder to keep lit. Right. I keep relighting mine as I go around the house and making sure I smoke it up really good all over the place and then the smell will linger for a while.
00:46:41
Speaker
I yeah that's the thing that I enjoy about incense is the whole like light it and then you don't have to touch it again true like whether you I mean like you can carry an incense stick around the house too but like yeah like it's more of a passive thing whereas like saging is like a active right process but like to you know to light a candle or to light an incense while I'm doing something else that maybe is something that I don't really feel like doing or that I don't enjoy as much such as work ah you know just makes that task more bearable yeah and this was advice like it's it's advice that's given I think in general like I mean the thing that's popping into my head is like the term habit stacking where it's like when you do one thing you remember to do the other things that you like trained yourself to do
00:47:38
Speaker
Interesting. i don't know that term, actually. But this is more of like a like make your environment more enjoyable so that you can do the thing that's not enjoyable.
00:47:50
Speaker
And this was, you know... I mean, it's an obvious thing, maybe, but like it was introduced to me by Amber, who did the astrology readings for me last year.
00:48:04
Speaker
Because she talked about my leo placements being very like in need of this kind of like nurturing ha um like of like needing enjoyable sensory stuff but also like needing pretty space like why i'm so particular about like how my home is decorated or how my body is decorated um like it's just It's like a self-expression thing, but it's also like ah gives it it it like the aesthetic gives me pleasure in a way that like isn't... Not everybody needs it, but like it just because it's exclusive to me or anybody with like you know a similar number of Leo placements of like doesn't mean that it's not important.
00:49:03
Speaker
to like the you know to actually prioritize those things and so that's like less of a you don't need to like necessarily carve out time for those things because you just sort of implement them as you're going about your day but like for the other stuff like skill development you know that's the thing that you do have to carve out time for yeah And I think that like, it is hard because I am, once again, the kind of person who really, really benefits from having a structured routine, but also absolutely is repulsed by a un structured routine.
00:49:38
Speaker
like Like, I need it, but I can't do it. For some reason, i am exactly the same way, and we don't have very many of the same placements at all. Oh, this is this is less of a chart thing, it's an ADHD thing. um Because, like, honestly, my Virgo stellium would be the thing that would make sure the routines are like implemented and stuck to.
00:50:04
Speaker
ah And yet, they have no bearing on my uh oh i think it's the mercury and leo i i remember pinpointing that i was like mercury and leo that's the adhd placement that's the thing that gave me adhd ah
00:50:27
Speaker
on yeah but like even still like carving out time and like even if you don't like have a necessarily set routine Like, if you just remember to do the thing, you know, more often than not, you're still on on track with it, you know?
Creative Expression & Astrology for Self-Discovery
00:50:49
Speaker
And, like, the have the last thing that I had written as, like, a what nourishes my soul thing that I hadn't even mentioned was creative expression, which we did a whole episode on. Oh, yeah.
00:51:01
Speaker
A while back. Yeah. um But, like, that's another thing that, like, you know, as I'm healing my traumas and healing my chyron in leo uh like creative expressions getting easier and easier and also more and more necessary like it's like it has to come out like it it wants to come out it has to come out and if it doesn't come out i'm gonna have a fit um you know so like carving out time for that in particular too
00:51:35
Speaker
I don't know if this would resonate with you or anyone else, but I feel like trying to make time to just daydream is like a big one for me.
00:51:47
Speaker
Yeah. Just like, cause it's like, I think that falls under, if not creative expression, just creativity because like that's you getting to use your imagination in a way.
00:52:01
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So like almost in the same vein, visualization, visualization. Yeah. Because it's different than just, oh my God, the fucking brain fart I just had.
00:52:22
Speaker
It's different than just um meditating. Right. Right. Because you are, actively visualizing things that you want to see happen in your life or that you want to have or you know that kind of stuff or even like i' know it it can be equally soothing to like sit and visualize memories that you have that you want to keep like strong and sharp true in your mind yeah kind of like that uh childhood memory that I had a couple times recently that I wanted to talk about. it But you still can't remember. No.
00:53:00
Speaker
so Yeah, has't it hasn't come back up in my head at all. Like, I haven't thought about that. So I haven't had a chance to, like, yeah. It'll come back. Yeah. But yeah, 100%. Like, that's the thing that, I mean, it also, think, also files under or can be filed within the same, uh, block of time that you spend being alone in the dark.
00:53:29
Speaker
Yeah. yeah You know? okay Yeah. It's really gratifying to be alone in the dark and daydreaming. Yes.
00:53:41
Speaker
Yeah. Not ideally not maladaptively because maladaptive daydreaming is, uh, trauma response. so
00:53:53
Speaker
But, uh... Oh, God. Yeah. Any further thoughts? No, don't think so.
00:54:01
Speaker
Okay. Brain fart central over here. but Brain fart central. No, but, like, we did... We covered some significant ground, I think. Yeah. I feel like there's probably a whole angle to this topic that...
00:54:19
Speaker
we didn't even hit on but if there if there is I can't I can't think of it yeah but like this is what comes up when I think about it so like this is what's you know but this is how we do our show is literally like what is it that comes up for us what is this what is it that comes up for us and like what is it that we have experience with that we can speak to uh-huh You know?
00:54:47
Speaker
So we've done that, I'd say. in this In this case. But of course, like as we always say, like we more than likely will revisit this topic and many others if and when we come up with or think of other things that we should have talked about or you know wanted to and forgot.
00:55:10
Speaker
Here's the thing. What? I was talking to John the other day about our big threes. Yeah. And how mine are, you know, I'm air, water, water.
00:55:23
Speaker
Right. And I wondered if, you know, that has anything to do with me, the fact that I love to fly and I also love water. Right. And then I was like thinking about yours and I'm like, in what ways do you love the earth and, or dirt or whatever?
00:55:43
Speaker
i love to burrow in the ground and what other walk on flames walk on pot coals was like what do you do that that is that represents those things in terms of their elements and like that you are well interested in burning candles and incense is ah fire thing definitely Yeah, but it doesn't have anything to do with travel.
00:56:07
Speaker
No, it doesn't have to. just you think you think of like I said, I like flying, but I like water, too. And water doesn't necessarily mean travel. You like just going to a beach and cruises.
00:56:19
Speaker
I've been on two cruises and I didn't love them. I didn't love them. like pools and I like lakes. I like pools, too. You know, swimming. i don't like lakes or oceans, but I like pools.
00:56:32
Speaker
Okay. So it's yeah. But you yeah. hike Hiking. I feel like that's the earth thing. That is earthy. That is true. I feel like your boxing was like a fire thing because you're kind of oh aggressive. Oh yeah. taking out That's the Aries rising.
00:56:49
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So those are something that might go with those elements. You're totally right. And I feel like possibly ah doing the the things that go along with our signs is a way of nurturing our souls.
00:57:05
Speaker
you you are on to something. You're on something with that. Because we're kind of honoring our like birth charts. True. You know, I don't know. Our personalities, our true personalities.
00:57:18
Speaker
Yeah. Like, I mean, I've gone off on tangents both on and off recording being like, I never fully understood who I actually was until I did the astrology sessions that like taught me about my personality.
00:57:31
Speaker
Cause like, she was just telling me all this stuff and it was like, Oh my God, that's true. And the fact that you're saying it, even though we just met on Zoom right now, means that like, it's valid.
00:57:44
Speaker
There's something to it, for sure. There's something to it. There's a reason why I feel the way I feel. And, you know, yet I've gone my entire life being like, feeling like I had no legs to stand on when it came to what I wanted or how I felt about myself or my life.
00:57:59
Speaker
And so for her to like, I got into boxing like a decade before that. yeah you know and yet she was like you should look into like impact sports like boxing and i'm like you know i at the time had my fucking heavy bag leaned up in the corner that i had just purchased off of a friend right and i had to like go over and be like you see yeah look what's behind me look what is literally right here that i already enjoy
00:58:33
Speaker
it's like you know but just also also the way she was talking about like how aesthetics are really important to me and like pleasant sensory experiences are really important to me like her saying all those things just validated them for me in a way that like I couldn't give myself that yeah and so like doing everything that I do that honors the aspects of my birth chart that like make up, you know, who I am on, like, an expressive level is absolutely nourishing to the soul.
00:59:12
Speaker
Yeah, so unintentional plug, but... Amber Energy right yeah and Amber Energy Services yeah unintentional area findder but I but feel like employing and amazing yeah employing the services of somebody like her who does that yeah if you feel if you feel like you need it because like not everybody has the feeling that I have I felt like I've always felt like you know in me describing how lost I felt before you know these sessions with her i feel like it falls on deaf ears a lot
00:59:45
Speaker
People are like, I don't understand what you mean. Like, that doesn't make sense, you know? But like, to me, I'm like, it makes perfect sense because it was my entire life, like lived experience was to feel invalid as a person.
00:59:57
Speaker
Yeah. Until I understood who I was from an like external validated place. Mm-hmm. place Well, that doesn't have to mean everybody who who goes to seek those services. No, right. But also, like, some people already, like, are in touch with that. So, like, you know, they may not need it. But, like, if you felt like there's, like, a missing piece there. Yeah.
01:00:18
Speaker
Like, definitely look into it. learning those those placements and things about yourself... can help you figure out ways how to nourish your soul better maybe to nourish yourself and your own needs because she had good suggestions for stuff yeah like she had you know she told you you needed to do a podcast yeah She told you a lot of stuff.
01:00:43
Speaker
and Yeah. And it's working out. Yeah. So it's like, yeah. I mean, maybe like if you have the means and the interest, look into doing that kind of thing and in learning more about yourself and finding out different ways that you can honor your soul, take care yourself in ways you've never thought of before.
01:01:04
Speaker
Yeah. hundred percent. Yeah. I need to do that. I need to do it. oh yeah. Yeah. i think I think you'd get a lot from it. I think you are right.
01:01:16
Speaker
It's worthwhile. Anywho. Yeah, I think we did it. We did Another one for the books. I'm so pleased.
Engaging with the Audience
01:01:27
Speaker
That's our episode today. Thanks for going on this journey with us. Yeah. I don't know if it's been inspirational. I don't know if it's been helpful at all. But hopefully it was at least entertaining.
01:01:40
Speaker
And if you think of anything that we may not have mentioned that should have been obvious, like you should email us and tell us. For sure. Yeah. We're not too proud. Maybe we'll bring, you know, the next time that we talk about this, we'll like, you know, mention whatever you tell us about. Yeah.
01:01:57
Speaker
be like we totally should have thought of this and this person reminded us yeah that person might even give us like a whole nother episode just from whatever they say so true so true you never know if you want us to talk about your thoughts yeah trying whether actually to expand on that not just about this subject but like if there's a subject that you think of that you'd be like I'd love to hear what they have to say on this fucking email us and tell oh hell yeah dude Yeah.
01:02:27
Speaker
If it's not already on our list in any capacity, then we'll add it. Right. Yeah. We'll eventually run out of ideas anyway, so we'll probably need some from you guys.
01:02:39
Speaker
We're nowhere near that place, but like maybe like a few years down the road, we might start to approach it. We'll see. i don't know. We'll see. Yeah. But yeah, so ah yeah, you can email us at what email is that, Christina?
01:02:53
Speaker
Soulpodthepodcast at gmail.com Was that a good jingle for you? Yes, it was. e And if a person wants to follow us on Instagram, where you that?
01:03:10
Speaker
At Soulpodthepodcast. Fuck yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we also have a Patreon. So if you feel like supporting the show, if you really like what you're hearing and you want some more content and especially like more unhinged content, like including Molly's pretty feet.
01:03:31
Speaker
Okay. We are not making any promises that there will be feet pics on Patreon. Yeah. um yeah but there might be maybe someday maybe someday we'll see um but yeah you can support us there it helps us out a lot um and we're eternally grateful uh for those who are willing to subscribe to us so like Thank you in advance and thank you to those who have already subscribed. And where can they find us on Patreon, Christina?
01:04:04
Speaker
That would be www.patreon.com slash soulpod the podcast. You got it, bitch. Fuck yeah. Oh my god.
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