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Ep. 204 – “I Hope He Dies in a Car Accident:” The When We Were Young Fest Recap
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This week, Jeremiah joins us to debrief on Sam’s rollercoaster weekend in Las Vegas at the When We Were Young Festival! If you haven’t heard of WWWY, take a look at the lineup. It’s insane. Over the course of a couple days, Sam fell in love with the timeless beauty of the Vegas strip. Join us as he imparts the valuable life lessons he learned during his weekend in that sleezy human terrarium, and have a great week!
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00:00:00
Speaker
Maybe Sam, maybe they wouldn't have stolen your money if you hadn't worked a giant. I'm just I'm just throwing it out there. I feel like I'm blaming right now. Jeremiah, I don't like it. They're the ones that that need to learn a karmic lesson instead of maybe you should be looking inward and saying, did I should I have learned a karmic lesson? I appreciate what you're trying to do. You have to think that's not true. Let this happen to you. Right.
00:00:27
Speaker
Well, like you did, you did go to Vegas and as everything we've talked about, like, obviously I feel like you're kind of, it's like walking back into Sodom or, um you know, what um I wanted to resist.
00:00:39
Speaker
That notion, but I'll accept it because I did take a picture. I did take pictures of a lot of people and and text them to people so I could make fun of them. but Yes. Yes. So, uh, maybe, maybe you're right. That's acceptable there, actually. that yeah not acceptable with sam i think Okay. I like Casey's perspective. I'm clean.
00:01:17
Speaker
Hey, everybody. Welcome to another episode of Growing Up Christian. I'm Sam. I'm Casey. I'm Jeremiah. And boy, oh boy, have I had a busy week. um Came back from when we were young. I left for when we were young on Friday, on a Friday morning. I left my house at 5.30 in the morning, went to ah flew out of Logan airport in Boston, uh, and framing him to have like a little shuttle. Uh, so you can, you can either pay $60 a day or whatever the fuck it is to park at Logan, or you can pay $7 a day to park 30 minutes away and just get bust in. So yes, I hate this system, but it is yeah way more affordable.
00:01:59
Speaker
So that was the move. um And then, ah yeah, so it's like a feels like five and a half hour flight in. And then you go back in time three hours ah because of the time change, which was I that's the farthest. to ah I flew to Montana when I was like a teenager.
00:02:17
Speaker
um like early teens, 13, 14, something like that with my family. but that's the But that's the biggest trip I've taken ah in my adult life. Everywhere else I've flown is you know was within a few hours.
00:02:32
Speaker
ah So that like that time change experience as a 36 year old man was the first time I ever really felt it because I've like gone to Florida. um I don't remember it in Montana and I was there for a week and you're a teenager and times are relevant when you're a teenager because you can go to bed whenever you want and sleep as late as you want. So nothing else.
00:02:53
Speaker
um And then I went to Jamaica for my honeymoon, but ah still the same time zone, right, Jamaica? Probably. yeah I think so. would yeah So either way, I was like, that was that threw me through a loop um ah by nine o'clock. It obviously felt like almost midnight. I would just and then traveling sucks anyway. Flying is like you feel greasy. You definitely feel like you caught a disease. I do. i There's nothing.
00:03:21
Speaker
enjoyable, enjoyable about flying anywhere. Um, I didn't, I've, have you guys ever done first class Casey? Yeah, I was able to upgrade once on like a short flight to Detroit. Cause it was like 60 bucks. And okay that was, that's awesome. It was like an hour and 20 minute flight, but it was still really fun. I would, I, whenever I see first class, I'm like this, I mean, it doesn't seem bad. I mean, you can stretch your legs out. You can lay it down like it's, it looks great. I want to try it sometime, but.
00:03:48
Speaker
It's way better. It's just not worth paying for. Right. Like the upgrades for 60 bucks are totally. Yeah. Yeah. That totally would be worth upgrading. When I had like status with the airlines, they would upgrade you pretty frequently, which was great. It's like the most exciting thing when you're, you know, going to take it.
00:04:07
Speaker
three hour flight to Atlanta or something like that. And all of a sudden they're like, Oh, you get to sit up front and have cheese. It's like, maybe today does not so bad after all. Yeah. yeah I mean, Casey, you have like leg room and all of the rows. Leg room is never a problem for me. I don't, I don't think about it. It never even crosses my mind.
00:04:27
Speaker
You know, it wasn't, I didn't, I didn't have a problem with the leg room in coach and I don't, this makes me, this is wrong. I know this is actually angry. Yeah. You're a tall man. How tall are you? Six three. Yeah. That's, that's, that's a tough situation. Are you mostly like your torso or like mostly mostly torso? Definitely. If I was more leg, it would be even harder because I've got a brother who's just a little bit taller than me, but he's like, I've got like the torso of a six foot eight person in the legs of a five foot nine person. And my brother's like the exact opposite. So it's a lot harder for him.
00:05:01
Speaker
It's been a lot of years since I've seen your entire body. I mostly just see your chest. I've mostly seen you chest up. Well, stand up, give us a little twirl. yeah oh I don't know if it'll come across the same. Let's see that pig in a blanket.
00:05:17
Speaker
um But yeah, the the leg room wasn't really a problem for me either. Like I, I was like, is this, is this like a bigger airplane than normal? And it's not, I know it's not. I just, I know that's always a constant complaint, but I felt like I could stretch my little legs just enough. And, uh, it's more the, uh, I would, the seat, I find just like the lean back, very uncomfortable. My neck has always been, I've had neck problems for.
00:05:42
Speaker
15 years so like everything's uncomfortable generally like I feel general discomfort in my neck just doing this right now um So whatever that's the worst part about it. But anyway flying into Vegas man I fucking was I always hear people talk about what it's like when you fly into Vegas for the first time and how it's like just Desert and mountains and then there's just like this shit-ass city right like in the middle of it yeah and it it's it is actually a little jarring like it feels cartoonish it's not it it feels like like oasisy like it's just fake like there shouldn't be anything here it's you can't see another ten as you're landing i didn't have a great seat to like to the window but like
00:06:27
Speaker
It really is like as you're landing like I don't see anything there's not like what what is Vegas close to at all? Like what do you nothing? Hell it's in the middle of no yeah And it's not like on the outskirts of a city there's just like suburbia in town It's like there's Vegas there's residential areas of Vegas But when you're in a plane you just look down on this giant circle in the middle of the mountains and then outside of it It's like nothing. You can't see anything else ah there's a Yeah, and and if you go anywhere else in Nevada, like there's just like wide expanses where there's nothing, nobody better have a full tank of fuel.
00:07:08
Speaker
like and The rural towns that are just like scattered around, like you know it's like 150 miles and you ride it like a broken wagon wheel Nevada. and it's It's literally just a a dusty truck stop of a town. They're very depressing sort of places.
00:07:28
Speaker
Yeah, I yeah, jema I would say i ah the feeling because ah when I went to Vegas, we were in Vegas for the first when we were young. And then me and a friend drove out and did some hiking like in Zion and stuff. But we came back to Vegas to fly back out of it. And when you're driving back in, it's the same thing like you're driving through desert and mountains and whatever. And then you just like drive down the mountain into this giant dusty bowl and just in the middle of it is just a city. Yeah. It's like a circular city in the middle of a valley. Uh, the wind was crazy. Like it's like the smoothest flight I've ever been on in my life. And then you just like get near Vegas and your planes just feels like it's being shot down, which is like just another sign that you shouldn't be flying into. You're like, why no one should be here. Uh,
00:08:18
Speaker
And I think what was also stuck out to me, ah so i when I got there, my old friend of mine, a guy I used to live with in Boston, ah the year that I lived there after my wife and I moved back from Virginia, ah he he lives in Vegas. Now his family's from, i was it Reno? And they ended up in Vegas a while ago. So anyway, he he doesn't love it, ah but he's there to be near family, his niece and stuff like that. so uh he picks me up from the airport and we're driving around and i was just like this place looks really fucking stupid like you see it in movies and on tv shows and you get the belagio fountain going up it looks like it looks like
00:09:02
Speaker
it looks cool when you it's the illusion of glitz and glamour but it's' it's supposed to be you're in on the illusion of glitz and glamour but i think the glitz and glamour is like getting a little tarnished this stage yeah like and there's there's something weird about like you go to new york and you're just like all you can see is city everywhere you go it's like city there's it's it's big you feel like you're in something and then you're like I'm I'm in Vegas and you're like I can just I'm looking straight and I can see the end of the world it's just it you see where the city ends in all directions yeah the light stops and then you go like
00:09:39
Speaker
Even like all the hotels like the big Sphinx and like the I stayed at the strat and then Look the Bellagio all these places you go on TV It looks like everything's like flashy and neat and it looks cool like when you're there it it kind of feels like you're on like a giant Hollywood set like a studio set nothing it is looks good or real so much of Vegas like especially the the the drive from the airport to the strip you know
00:10:10
Speaker
like you're going down back roads and stuff like that you know working your way towards the strip it feels like when you're a kid and you were at six flags or something and the rides look so cool and they always have like you know the set piece and stuff behind the batman roller coast or whatever and like you get a you you get to a certain spot in the line and you can see the back of those displays. Yeah. And it's kind of like a sort of a depressing, disappointing like, oh, it is really like it is a fat Midwesterners version of opulence.
00:10:48
Speaker
It's it's like ah it's the Myrtle Beach of the desert. Like it's like when you're there, you're like, who is this for? Like, was there ever a time where this was like probably in the 50s or 60s or something? then You're like, oh, man, this probably was the place to be. And then now you're like, it's just become a caricature of a caricature of a caricature.
00:11:08
Speaker
That's been so commercialized to where like, I don't even know, like, is it satire at this point? Is it just like completely empty access, but it's not really excess. It's completely empty middling trash that smells like trash. That's been peed on. Like I feel like smells like abu dobi if they stopped trucking out the sewage. Yeah.
00:11:32
Speaker
I so on top of it looking like a set and feeling like if you like just kept going you'd smash into like a Like a like a wall like that was just painted that to to look real like has that Like Looney Tunes type shit ah but I didn't know so my friend was just kind of telling me some interesting things about the city and he um but I love my friend is a wonderful person I had so much fun hanging out with him for the short time that I got to because he just knows the type of person I am well enough to know that I don't want to go to like the touristy shit he took me to like the abandoned strip malls or the places the old like gay bath houses where
00:12:16
Speaker
Straight men quote-unquote would go to like cheat on their wives and like he just brought me to like all the seedier shit um Everything's just like areas that are completely boarded up and we comment Ting Pong Vegas took some pictures in front of that and like it was it but one of the things he showed me it was an area I said do you guys tell me if you guys know about this and if you do you probably could explain it better if you already know I'm just gonna give you a second or hand version of the story but the guy who who started zappos like that online
00:12:50
Speaker
You know the online store Zappos? Yeah, I know at the store, but I don't think I know where this is going. This doesn't sound so familiar. no Apparently, he had a huge interest in building up a part of Vegas that had become just really shitty. um And he invested like millions and millions and millions of dollars into like building up parts of it. um And during that time,
00:13:15
Speaker
he died, ah but never had a will. So everyone and everyone who fought over his estate and all of the work and stuff that he was building up, it just it froze. no nothing So there was like a bunch of areas, a bunch of like things that had started to be built that haven't been touched for 15 years or something like that.
00:13:36
Speaker
And they're just half built. Nothing's happening. and Oh, no, no, I didn't know that about that. but And there's like these lots that are empty. It's like it's like a parking lot that says like Zappos, whatever on it, it hasn't been touched. Like it all just stopped and it's still like owned by him, but no one's really claimed any sort of right to it. And it's still all tied up in some litigation and shit.
00:13:57
Speaker
But ah another interesting fact is he i he died because of his like huge interest in like the transhumanism shit. He was like wanted to live forever, had like this interesting desire to like pump himself full of shit to try to live forever and do experiments on his body. So ah that's, I guess, ultimately what ended up killing him, which is pretty cool because that's the kind of stuff my dad's afraid of, right yeah transhumanism. oh transhumanism in case you missed the suffix of that word.
00:14:29
Speaker
yeah and try to clarify yeah it's it's just like ah it's Well, him and I were joking about like people's hatred towards it, because I remember like people talking about like that like from the conservative ilk of like and all these people are trying to do these things. It's against God and nature. It's cyberpunk. It's people using technology to like enhance their bodies. i mean In reality, it's not quite that far along, but that's kind of the direction it wants to go, is can we use technology to improve what humans are, like their physical bodies and souls and you know whatever. like It depends on how crazy your version of transhumanism is, but it's anything from like fancy hearing aids up until can you clone the soul and store it in a microchip, like right fanciful stuff. but yeah so that he He was into that. I guess it ah ultimately resulted in an untimely death and a bunch of the stuff that he'd started building is just
00:15:26
Speaker
ah it Frozen I wonder what got him like what actually killed him. I don't know. I should look it up more i i' Like I said, this is all secondhand information. None of this is I haven't vetted the information I don't even know if I repeated it correctly. So Wikipedia fucking zappos. It's not this isn't life or death Well, it was for him. He's dead, but Uh, if you're curious, you can Google the story. Um, but, uh, I don't know, where was he going with that? Just going around. Oh yeah. So he showed me around, you know, the like the oldest casinos and this and that just, uh, I didn't really do any, I didn't really do any gambling either. But, uh, Casey, ah I want to say ah it didn't occur to me until just tonight when we were talking, but.
00:16:10
Speaker
We're walking through, I don't know, I don't remember the areas, um but we're walking through the area, an area, and we come across this place. i I'm trying to pull it up on my phone right now because I took a picture of the menu and I forgot the name of it. um While Sam's looking that up, ah I can't pronounce his name correctly, ah but Tony Shea, I think it might be how he pronounces it. um He was injured in a house fire in New London, Connecticut. It doesn't appear transhumanism had anything to do with it. Oh, man.
00:16:39
Speaker
because he locked himself in a pool shed during the fire, and then he died from smoke inhalation, um but he apparently was using nitrous oxide as a recreational drug. Okay. Imagine if he would have just got in the pool, he'd have been fine. Just got a whole- Water is the anti-fire. The anti-fire.
00:17:00
Speaker
That's what I like. Fire killer. Casey, did you ever did did we talk about the heart attack grill? Oh, yeah, we place. I don't know if we've talked about it on here, but it is ah it's offensive, both just conceptually and visually.
00:17:16
Speaker
Yeah, like everything about it is just the worst. it It's like the epitome of like debauchery, but not in the typical Vegas style of just like having sex with prostitutes and strippers and shit like that. ah it's So the the menu, I went up to take a picture of it and it says, over 350 pounds, eat free. And i just that's a beautiful celebration of America, I think.
00:17:42
Speaker
But this is what those gay bath houses you talked about beforehand that that like that's what people used to go there for This is our generation's gay back. Yeah yeah yeah well like A different form of hedonism you just eat beef until you're ready to die It gets better. I'm looking at the menu here. You can get the octuple bypass, um and it's that's $35.20, but you can add 40 slices of bacon for $7.62.
00:18:14
Speaker
But like it also, that feels like it's a, starts as a meme, right? Like that's a funny sketch once. And then it, nobody is actually enjoying that. Like, is it just middle-aged dudes just smacking their buddies on the back and being like daring each other to play gay chicken, but with stupid hamburgers?
00:18:32
Speaker
the backs aren't the only things getting slapped here my friend uh so well first of all for the over 350 pounds you eat free it says unlimited single bypass burgers purchase drink with each burger weigh with a nurse before ordering nurses are the waitresses by the way Yeah, they're like, they're in like, ah like a sexy nurse Halloween costumes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I'm looking at the menu and one of the nurses comes up to me and my friend and ah just did that quick like run down through the rules kind of thing and they're like,
00:19:05
Speaker
ah I wish I could remember it verbatim, but it was you have to, you have to put on a hospital gown upon entry. And if you don't finish your meal, you have to like go lean up against this metal rack and get spanked five times.
00:19:21
Speaker
I hate this place so much. Yeah, I hate all of it. And that's what tuned me in is I heard the sound of spankings. um And I turn and there's like this dude, it looks like he was just yeah, he was like leaning up against this like metal rack got his hands on it like he's about to get buttfucked.
00:19:38
Speaker
but Right. Cause the people who are going to be doing that are going to definitely make it like the people being subjected to that or subjecting themselves to it are definitely going to ham it up in the worst way possible and try to turn it into a thing. Yeah. They leave like a little crumb left. but Oh, I didn't finish. You have to spank me now.
00:19:56
Speaker
You know what I wanna know is like, do they have a kid's menu? And do they spank at the kids? Kids over 150 pounds heat free. ah it Just like a little. That would be that could be funny. because it i be I bet you could get people that would be really worked up about how like that's wrong. Like all the other stuff is fine, but like don't you dare do that to a kid. You take them home and you feed them like you eat the rest of the time, like a good parent who got to 350 pounds.
00:20:24
Speaker
Which also I feel like in modern America 350 is not that crazy that's like feels crazy Well, it's it's very heavy But I'm saying like if you're a if you're a big person already like it's it's obese Don't get me wrong, but like I don't know. I feel like that's very attainably obese for a lot of Americans Yeah, like, you know if you're waddling around Lynchburg like you see a 350 plus person every day and Yeah. right like you can You can fit in a plane seat at 350 pounds. You can fit in most cars still. I'm not saying you're going to have a good time. I'm just saying- The person next to you won't. That's true, but you don't care about them. You don't care about anybody but yourself.
00:21:04
Speaker
ah That's just why you're eating the octuple bypass. ah But I also when I was listening to the person give the spiel I was like, honestly, I feel like that's like a more if I think I'd rather be a stripper than work there. I feel like that. Yeah, like so that's the most demeaning thing. Yeah, I felt like I saw the women there and they're all like young early 20s like.
00:21:32
Speaker
attractive you know like it's like a dick's last resort kind of thing people just want to go and get like humiliated and shamed by hot people or something like that where you're like I don't know I just am like I feel like if I had to tell if I was a woman I had to tell my parents I just got a job I'd rather tell them that I was stripping in Vegas than working at what's the way I said the place was called heart attack heart attack Heart Attack Grill. I'd rather tell my parents. i yeah i got I'm stripping in Vegas and I'm pulling a G a night and it's dope. and then ah But if I was like, I got a job at the heart Heart Attack Grill, I feel like they'd be like, oh, sweetie. Really? Yeah. yeah i vegas That's like just the perfect place for that. Because there's so much of that kind of crap there, just like this copy and paste, like boomer fun.
00:22:23
Speaker
It sucks. It's like for people who who tell you about a bumper sticker they saw.
00:22:32
Speaker
That's like each part of it. It's work where it's like I don't know what the joke is supposed to be, but it definitely is not made for people that are like up on anything that's happening. Like it's just the ha ha ha. That's funny. Am I right? Like it's it's like the whole place feels like that, though, where it's such a dated idea of absolutely everything, which maybe we're not the target demographic. Millennials don't have a lot like if it's like if an episode of this, the three Stooges was an entire city. Yeah.
00:23:01
Speaker
it's It's for people who jog into a like a souvenir shop at the beach to buy a ah holy t-shirt that says who farted on it. Or it's in the Outer Banks. Every time we're in the Outer Banks, we pass that stupid Dirty Dicks. ah Yeah, I got my crabs at Dirty Dicks. You got my crabs at Dirty Dicks. It's like, who is this shirt for? I mean, it's Baby Boomers.
00:23:25
Speaker
but like Again, I get the idea of that's a funny quip. That's a funny aside somebody makes once is just riffing on someone's name or whatever, but the whole restaurant's based around that bit. You think that bit is strong? Well, apparently it's strong enough to carry a merch line for boomers. There's a town near me called- Jeez, pull my finger, grill.
00:23:48
Speaker
There's a town near me called Holden and um the joke there wasn't a kid in central Massachusetts that didn't know about Dick Hurts from Holden. It's just like one of those silly little like name jokes. you're like it's not It's funny when you're 14 and you hear it for the first time and then you're like 36 and you hear someone be like, you know, there's a Dick Hurts rolling, like shut the fuck up. It's like, why is it still... Playing out it's like ah working in an elementary school I'll tell you like it's you hear the same cut when you like the stuff that was funny when you were seven somehow some of it's like Still alive today where you go. What how does that how does that perpetuate? How do those jokes? continue to show up in in
00:24:35
Speaker
in first graders like i mean it's it's like drawing the s like some things are just passed on in our like collective mana or something where like nobody has ever taught you how to do it everybody just at some point you take your first steps like of your of your mind you know yeah Yeah, it's it's a rite of passage. It's like teenagers like getting in the cart at Walmart or riding a scooter down the aisle. Yes. Yeah. And thinking it's like, Oh my God, dude, every time I go to a target, I see teenagers pushing each other in carts. They sound very old and out and like not fun. And that's true. Um, but we're not old enough yet to appreciate them. yes
00:25:19
Speaker
but I do think it should be legal to hit them with your car. They cannot run over them, but you should be able to like push them. Or if it's in a store, like you should definitely be able to like flip it over. Yeah, just go flip it over.
00:25:33
Speaker
i spen like I feel like Target is the worst. Maybe it's just the location of the one near-ish to me. um And it's funny because it's in like this strip mall. And it's the same strip mall I hung out at as a kid because you can go to Red Robin and then go to the movies right after. like it's It's just like littered with with teenagers who aren't quite old enough to drive because it's ah it's an easy place for parents to just like drop their kids off for four hours and not have to be around them.
00:26:05
Speaker
And so it's just like gaggles of teens just being awful. And I was one of them. Like, I always try to remember that because me and my friends were having lightsaber fights as we ran down the fucking sidewalk there when we were 14, 15 years old. So like, we did it. We all did it.
00:26:21
Speaker
It's their right of passage and it's our right to you hate it and also have be just flooded with regret and self hatred and they will too. And i I look forward to connecting with those people when they're old enough to hate their young selves like we all do. Yeah. Dude, um I don't think there's I can't think of a more soul sucking job than working at like Dick's last resort and having to tell the same jokes every day.
00:26:49
Speaker
Yeah, that would kill me and write the same. I'd rather be a prostitute. Yeah, then then do that. And it dude, I went to one. Have you been have you guys been to a Dick's last resort or you know, conceptually are aware of it? I'm not even that aware of it. I'm looking it up, though. Well, it's just like a restaurant where they're mean to you. And then you pay for that at that says like, you're a slut. Yeah, or something like that.
00:27:15
Speaker
Okay, so it's exactly it. Okay. Yeah, I'm looking it up now. Yeah, I I went to one and it's it's overpriced as fuck. It's like there's one in Boston. I don't know if it's still there but friends and I went when we were probably I was probably 18 or 19.
00:27:34
Speaker
And it was, you're just like, I have to, it's like $35 for like not much of anything. And all the food is made as fuck. It's like nothing better than like a out, I mean, Outback, Outback is probably like the higher end of chain restaurants, right? No.
00:27:53
Speaker
No. What's middle that middle of the road then? Probably. Yeah, I think I put that in the same category as like Applebee's or something. No way. Absolutely not. Applebee's is bottom tier. Chili's. I would go if I had to rank them Applebee's, Chili's, Outback for sure. I think Outback is definitely the better of most chain restaurants. I think the price wise they're about the same now.
00:28:15
Speaker
Maybe. What's an Alice Springs chicken go for in this economy? How much to make an onion bloom? i Yeah, so we went and it was like they they make these little paper hats and they like, I suck dicks and they put it on your hat and shit like that. And you're like, this is... And then they, you you pay for them to make fun of you essentially and give you the worst service ever. And they just try to like, but there's like a cutoff, right? So if you go before like 9 PM, it's like more quote unquote family friendly.
00:28:48
Speaker
So you could bring like a teenager and you're not going to hear like vile things. But I guess after a certain time, it's like they're like all filters are out. I don't know if it's any funnier. I can't imagine it's worth it. like i imagine it's a I imagine the waitstaff mostly consists of people who failed at stand-up comedy. Their crowd work was terrible, so they now work at Dick's Last Resort. that's my yeah I would love to get a job there and just see how how many people I could write pedophile on their Casey just just like cosplay like your schizophrenic like dangerously like possibly violently Schizophrenic and just be writing like cryptic messages on their hats just enough to like creep out the other patrons and That would be fun. I've actually been doing a little of that cuz have you guys noticed the like The text scam things that are going on dude. There's so many every day I get like spam texts Person I get the post office one seven times a day Packages here, but yeah we we can't deliver it. Can you click this link? So we started getting loose selling everybody I started getting ones that are like hey, I'm here. Where are you? I?
00:30:10
Speaker
And stuff like that. they They're just trying to get you to engage and they do a really good job. You give them your exact address and you get murdered. I've just been trying to think up like the most bizarre things to like send back to him. So like I got one this week that says, hi, Diana, it's Serena. Would you like to come to my house for a barbecue tonight? And I responded, they have taken the bridge and the second hall. We have barred the gates but cannot hold them for long. The ground shakes, drums, drums in the deep. We cannot get out. A shadow moves in dark.
00:30:44
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We cannot get out. They are coming. And they didn't respond. what eight Is it one of those things where they don't actually need to respond? Like it's like a phishing scam where they just need you to respond and now they have all of your information? No, normally those type of scams are called um pig butchering where they're just trying to get you to start engaged. They're fattening you up to slaughter you. Like that's why they're reaching out to Not to literally slaughter you, but to right try to get a conversation going. They're just looking for like most people know it's a scam. They're not looking for them. They're looking for the people who are lonely or desperate or gullible or whatever. They can get into a conversation. And then over time, the scam will be we woven into the conversation, whether it's someone you think you're dating or a long lost friend or whatever. But yeah, like at first, they're just spamming out like with it's it's Robo spam.
00:31:35
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um And yeah, probably nobody's reading that reply. Just they're looking for anybody that replies with like certain key phrases or whatever that they can then pick up to the next level. It's just a numbers game.
00:31:46
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i hope that somebody's reading these because i' i'm putting too much work i'm putting a whole lot of was that from ah Lord of the Rings. Lord of the Rings. Yeah, that's what I was going to guess. Lord of the Rings. I got another one that was like something about, are you going to be at class tonight or something that I was like, dog carcass in an alley this morning, tire tread on burst stomach. This city is afraid of me. I've seen its true face. Yep.
00:32:13
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Yeah, Rorschach's journal. Have you found just like moody man's quote Instagram and you're just kidding? You should just start sending them Andrew Tate monologues. Yeah. That would be great. Yeah, isn't that? the What isn't a lot of what he says, just like threatening threats of sexual violence? I don't know if that would be a decent amount of it. Yeah. and But also, I feel like it's appropriate because I don't know if he is directly running any of these scams, but it's less scummy than like the sex trafficking. So, you know, he's running crypto scams now, which he spoke out against pretty harshly, I guess, like in a year ago. Well, and he's got his own one, which it's kind of late in the game to be trying to run a crypto scam, but
00:32:59
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It really is too easy to try did a pretty funny video on it. And basically like he's just trying to push his audience to buy this. Like he calls it's like daddy coin. Of course, he calls himself daddy now. Of course it is. And coffee Zilla is like going hard on him. And so he's like trying to push all of his followers to just email coffee Zilla and call him gay. Come on. Like that's his big revenge scam.
00:33:28
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But yeah, he sucks. There's who there is such a like awful. There is a plague of awful like Manosphere Instagrammers and stuff.
00:33:39
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Like, have you have you guys heard of Wes Watts? His name's Wes Watson. I don't think so. No. He's like a I think he did some time in jail, but he's just like this most screaming guy that a 14 year old would look up to. He just screams and and like rips his audience to pieces like talking about how poor they are and what losers they are and this and that and the other. And there's like a bunch of videos of him like yelling at people for nothing.
00:34:09
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And he hosts these like classes that are like mark driscoll pretty much. Yeah. And it's like, it's like $10,000 to take his class where he teaches you how to be successful. And like, if, if people don't do it, he just like, like tears them a new way. It's this weird, like lame Fin Dom relationship that they have with their followers where it's like, I'd berate you until you give me money. Yeah. Degrade me, daddy. Exactly.
00:34:37
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Seems really similar to Tim Limbisa's Instagram. Tattoos, tattoos, cars, yelling. I was very glad that Azalea dying was not there. It looks like they're not going to be going a lot of places. You saw their European tour got canceled, their manager quit. Really? Really? Yep. Yep. I have to say, he just found out about what Tim did. Just a little later in the game.
00:35:03
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Their new songs are pretty awesome. They are pretty great, which takes because like the guy who just quit the band was the Ethan Naff, I think for Miss May. I like, I think he's all over the album. Like he's, he was their clean singer. Cause when I saw him last year, he was with them. I don't think he had joined or whatever yet, but.
00:35:21
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Yeah, Tim must just be awful to be around and work with because they just keep losing people because what the Jordan guy, the drummer that had been with him forever quit like last year or something. He just has like this phony niceness about him like on Instagram and shit. He's like acts like he's all like posse and like.
00:35:39
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uh, here for the people and really wants to like be a do-gooder and ah he, it just, it feels phony as fuck. He seems like he's like a narcissist. Like I don't doubt that he sure thought he was being sincere when he got out of jail. He's not even, he doesn't, I don't, it's like, it.
00:35:56
Speaker
He doesn't even know how to be sincere. Like, he i mean I think I think he was thinking he was being sincere. Like, I think that's the thing about a narcissist. He probably believed it at the time. It's just that that's not really who he is. Like, I don't think he was necessarily acting and stuff when he got out of prison. I think it's just he was trying to be a different person or thinking he was acting like he was being a different person and couldn't tell the difference. And but like, you can't sustain that indefinitely. Eventually, if that's not who you really are, people are going to figure it out.
00:36:26
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It's not like you had a lot of goodwill built up with people that was able to cash in did not have a lot of goodwill. i put up um yeah I haven't heard their new music. I have not heard any good. Well, it sounds it sounds exactly like as I lay dying, but ah but good, like ah but but very good as I lay dying.
00:36:46
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I yeah, it's like I don't need a, I don't need to break the mold. I don't need them to like totally reinvent themselves. Like if you click on Azalei dying, you know what you're looking for. Well, that's like the band and then breakdowns. Tim's like the, the, the least important part of the whole thing. Like he could quit and I would.
00:37:08
Speaker
It wouldn't matter to me at all if he quit because it's like the clean vocals and the guitars are really the focal point. It does feel like they could. It would be kind of weird, but it it does feel like if they kicked him out of the band like the new remaining members, I think there might be one original member left or something. They could get a decent vocalist from somewhere like a decent screamer and do great.
00:37:31
Speaker
Wasn't the problem though, that Tim owned too much, like he legally owned too much of the band and they- Oh, I don't know. I think that's what it was. I think it's kinda like Marmajean is Corey Brandon and Corey Brandon is Marmajean. It's the same. They couldn't carry on and with Azlai dying independently of Tim Lambisis. They started a different band for a while called Woven War and it was It was fine. Yeah. I see why it didn't really stick around. Speaking of that, did you see the um the the clips of Norma Jean at Furnace Fest? They had Josh come back out for Memphis Will Be Laid to Waste. um There's some really good recordings of that. like They stitched together a bunch of crowd videos and they shot their own stuff and then they've got like a good audio feed. and It looked like they tore it up at Furnace Fest. People were having a great time.
00:38:23
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them and uh under oath uh did that i believe the two of them did that cool move where they removed the barrier from the stage oh yeah because they i know they had lots of people jumping up onto the stage and jumping that is one incredible that fern i the fact that furnace fest team management, whatever, allowed that. like that's Barriers are like for safety, right? To keep the band safe in general. Yeah, but maybe some of them have seen the Chariot play before and they were like, they know what they're doing. yeah They'll be fine. So for them, that's just a ballsy move. I mean, when you when you watch the video, it's just a fucking dog pile on stage. It's incredible. i
00:39:04
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i well Well, I guess while we're on the under-earth topic, let's talk about them for a second. because oh boy this We had some back and forth texts about their new music. ah I will say that Furnace Fest set, i have it's hard to have any disrespect towards a band that says,
00:39:22
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We're gonna remove the barrier and we're gonna have the time of our lives and we're gonna put on the best fucking show that we can. Love that. ah at Unless it's Travis Scott. at um When we were young, I i ah had this conflict in me, right? Because i I've relentlessly trashed under oath in everything they've done since they broke up and got back together.
00:39:45
Speaker
Um, but I also like, they're only chasing safety is very near and dear to my heart and they fucking killed it. They fucking killed it. It was so good. They all sounded good. There wasn't anything about that set that was a disappointment. It was just.
00:40:04
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All highs all around great crowd great energy from the crowd and the band like it was they were they were Fantastic. They sound incredible. So they they were deemed themselves a bit um And then after I got back is when we talked about their new music um I listened to their new single teeth and my fucking god. I just don't give a shit. It's not good It's not good. They're not good anymore. They don't do good music anymore. It doesn't even have the energy that they used to have. And then they put out another new song. What's the name of it again, Jeremiah? Do you remember? Oh, uh, Gump's survivors guilt. Yeah. Uh, I liked it more. I could see myself finding this album, the best post breakup. I could, I did. I sent you, they had two singles they've released previously to that are presumably are going to be this album landslide and let go.
00:41:04
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Oh, I don't know if I listen to those. Okay. I sent them to you, but you were really like mad about under oath because of teeth. And so I think you may not have given it a chance. Like I think let go is an awesome song and absolutely sounds like classic under oath. And I think survivors guilt like transitions into classic under oath. When it gets to the bridge, like yeah I, lummer is it like it's even, even teeth has a, like at the end I go, this is good. Too bad. They just fucked up the entire first three minutes of their song. I mean, otherwise it'd be great. But with.
00:41:36
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um The only thing that would make sam dislike under oath more is if they like if they somehow kept the band together and also joined the military. Yeah.
00:41:49
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but there were A bunch of florida boys they might join a militia you never know. ah I love that, that's a great joke. ah No, but survivor's guilt, it I mean, it it's like groovy at times, but it just feels way too generic and simple. Like it has their energy, the passion, the vocals are good, like the production's great. I just, overall, I'm like at the end of it, it's just like not enough has happening. I find myself bored. I find myself bored within a minute and it doesn't really redeem itself until the end.
00:42:23
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I think I was reading some takes on, um, the r slash under a subreddit and the r slash metal core subreddit. And apparently a few members of the band have acknowledged that like, they're getting very mixed reactions to the songs and it kind of sucks. Cause some of them like Aaron posted something. It was like, well, nice to go on the internet and everybody absolutely hates the music. You just poured your heart into sorry, Aaron.
00:42:46
Speaker
And I I think I said maybe on the last show I was on talking about teeth where ah Chris the keyboardist put out a statement about it talking about like people always want us to go back to the old stuff. Say like make music that sounds like your old music. But like you don't actually that's not really what people mean. It's not just that the music sounds like that. If it sounds like their old stuff they'd go this isn't innovative. It sounds like your old stuff. Well, he said it's also it's like it's also about the time in your life. Like people talking about their only chasing safety. They're not just talking about I love this album so much. Most people there are age to talking about this album came out when I was in high school and I listened to it when I was going through a hard time in life. And like, it's not just the music. It's the music hitting you at the right time. It's being part of the scene for that period of time. And like, they can't
00:43:33
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give you any of that again. They can try to innovate, but it's hard when it's there, one of the defining bands of the entire genre. Like they're going to be probably on the Mount Rushmore of metalcore or post hardcore forever, no matter what.
00:43:47
Speaker
So like, what do you do? And I appreciate that they're trying to make different stuff that still sounds a bit like sounds like under oath, which I don't even know what that means. Because I think they've had a ton of range over there. I think they have a lot of range. I mean, let's be real, I think, okay, so they're only I agree with that. And I If I knew they're going to listen to anything I said, I'd reframe it for sure because I'd feel bad. but Yeah, if we ever get errand on the go. If they're humans, they're humans and they are trying to make music that yeah people want to listen to. But they're only chasing safety. Phenomenal. Define the great line. Phenomenal. Lost in the sounds of separation. Phenomenal. like Three back-to-back killer hits. ah Disambiguation.
00:44:27
Speaker
I didn't love it but a lot of people do and I hear I'm in that boat where I don't really I don't really like it all that much and but I have I know plenty of people who think it's like the pinnacle of their work and I I don't hear it but I accept that that's ah a way to feel about something um and then I have I didn't really listen to like anything else from them until I listened to Erase Me and was really disappointed. We've heard, we've all heard. That voyeurist was the next one, right? Yep. And less disappointed, but just very, very bored. Like whatever, I don't know, there's an edge that it feels like they lost. And I understand the idea of trying to be, go in a different, and I'm fine with people going in different directions. There's plenty of bands that I think have done that well.
00:45:22
Speaker
And I, I'm on board, but I. It's wild how like, it just does not work for some people like in the same way. Like you look at like, bring me the horizon. That like every album they've put out is like a totally different thing. And I'm not like the biggest fan of their, so I don't listen to their stuff very actively, but I catch, whenever I catch a song that's theirs, I'm like, Oh, this is kind of good. Who's this? Oh.
00:45:45
Speaker
more Horizon me without you what I mean me without you started as a post hardcore band they and they've and then they careers They are one of the best bands of all time. Yeah, and definitely not I'm on Casey's side of no me without you Legacy band hands down started out they started out post hardcore They career suicided assent almost with it's all crazy. It's all false um and then That by the by their last two albums, they went back to like a post like a drony like post hardcore kind of album, which is like kind of heavy, but also like that dr drone sound. But I just think they're one of those ones artists that I just don't I don't get I get I and i know because it's because I'm a junior high kid.
00:46:38
Speaker
And i want I want you to make like modern corn. That's what I want. but i actually like i'm missinging the boat on those but I really do get why it's not for everyone. Like that's not a band where I feel like they have such a unique and specific sound in every album. They're never gonna be huge, but if it works for you, it's really gonna work for you. And you're gonna be like, why doesn't everybody love? That's how I feel about animals as leaders. Every time someone talks about how great they are, I'm like, I understand how talented they are.
00:47:08
Speaker
I am not enjoying anything that's happening right now. I'm with you there. so It's like it's like the the taking and making it kind of unlistenable and hard to discern what's happening.
00:47:23
Speaker
yeahs like I know there's a lot going on here, but it sounds like white noise. like this is the This is the audio equivalent of trying to untangle earbuds. I think in a great example of a band that has changed up every time they put out an album is Bill Murray.
00:47:40
Speaker
Bill Murray, I think is fan-fucking-tastic. And his newest album is like, there's some like hardcore elements with a country twist. like it and it's I know people who hate it. I know people who never wanna listen to it and they're bothered by it to an extent, but it stands out and I think he does the things he does really well. I mean, they've he's put out so much music I've only ever listened to the country one, but I like it. I think it's great. Like Eggie Pocket was like a a big one. I mean, it's like all the titles are weird. Like I'm one of them was like something about motherfucking cranking my hog or something like that. Like it's it has like this joke feel, but then you listen to it and the musicianship is serious. But also each album, he brings in like a different genre's twist to it.
00:48:34
Speaker
And I think he's great. I think he's a musical genius. And when you listen to interviews with him, he's insane. The guy's crazy, which is kind of what you like in the settings. I have like managed sporting these things anything that's very ah like ah mainstream palatable. You don't like very much.
00:48:51
Speaker
Mm-hmm. I disagree. I like some mainstream palette the home team one of my top five favorite bands of all time no know their song It's like heavy pop it's just pop music
00:49:11
Speaker
okay they have 720,000 that's sort of all right I want to say like maybe two years ago. They had 40 so they've been doing really well for themselves ah I don't like them out of principle. Yeah, make because I like them. You don't like the things I like. Anyway, yeah I don't know. let me I'm going to shift this back. i want to i want to do some ah I want to talk about my misfortunes and I want to talk about when we were young a little bit more.
00:49:38
Speaker
because I spent more money than I'm comfortable with to go and the entire year I spent I mean I paid it off slowly over a year I i bought everything I needed to a year ago and minus my flight which was probably bought seven months ago and I'm like well how I don't know how early you can buy flights as early as I could Um, do you get payday loan? Yeah, minus well, I have, um, I, I actually, uh, brought, I w I got my student loan, like my student refund check. And instead of putting that towards my loans, because I didn't adjust how much federal financial aid I was going to get. I just cashed some of that to bring to when we were young and spend there. I was like, I'll pay this off over the next 10 years. That's fine. But I, I paid it off. I was like, I'm, I'm afraid I'm going to regret it. Um,
00:50:25
Speaker
I spent too much money and I i don't regret any of it. i had the i I think it was one of the greatest weekends I've ever had. It was a blast. i the It was like 60,000 people there each day. like The area was humongous.
00:50:40
Speaker
i so I'm gonna let me just i'll go through my day one and day two lineup. um I don't I didn't write down the albums they're playing so I'm not just gonna I'm not gonna list them all but ah day one it was Emory then Anne Berlin then Sios in then the Devil Wears Prada then state champs four years strong the wonder years Silverstein movements Bayside Jimmy eat world dance Gavin dance sleeping with sirens fall out boy and my chemical romance I mean, that is a pretty sick lineup. Right. Day two. That's pretty great. ah Neck Deep, Cartel, Underoath, Dashboard Professional, Coheed & Camry, A Story of the Year, Senses Fail, Taking Back Sunday, The Used, August Burns Red, Newfound Glory, A Day to Remember, Say Anything, and again, My Chemical Romance.
00:51:24
Speaker
A day to remember now that's a band that just keeps getting more and more mid over the years and I don't understand. Yeah, but they played homesick and they killed it and it was the best fucking time dude. It was so fun. ah So great. I mean the lineup unbeatable. I had a blast ah the thing that blew me away the most. um I wasn't a big my chemical romance fan.
00:51:46
Speaker
I didn't know, it turns out I knew way more of their music than I thought. but ah Because they are iconic and have albums that defined the genre for a long period of time and were culturally significant. Not that you would know that, often your weirdo corner of shut i didn't i hi I never had any issue with them. I never didn't like them. It was just like, in that time when I was getting into music, it was kind of like, what did I burn? What albums did I burn from friends? And that's kind of how I got into music as a teenager who was getting into cool music after only growing up, listening to Christian music. And I, so I missed it, ah but I always liked it for what I knew it for, but I never got into it.
00:52:30
Speaker
And that was hands down one of the best live performances I've ever seen in my life. Really? Cause they're normally not great live. fan Fantastic. I watched them and so much. Cause I almost didn't stay. I was like, I don't care. I don't think I kind of want to go to bed. I've been standing for 12 hours. I just want to go to sleep.
00:52:53
Speaker
Uh, and I ended up watching them both nights it with 60,000 people and it was. Oh, did they close? Yeah. Like both nights. Wow. And it was fucking, it was just amazing. I mean, it was, uh, it was like, uh, like an experience. Uh, it felt like, um, it was like a surreal kind of like euphoric, like, I don't know. I don't know how to explain it. I just know.
00:53:18
Speaker
I was like, this is one of the best shows, one of the most memorable shows I've ever seen. ah So all around, I mean, I couldn't have asked for a better weekend, except for day two, Sunday. I leave Monday, day two Sunday. um um where i So let me talk through my wardrobe real quick.
00:53:38
Speaker
Day one, I brought shorts that had a back pocket with a zipper. So I was like, I won't lose my wallet. Perfect. um That's one of my biggest fears, losing my wallet, have the zipper. I'm good. I went down. i had my I worked that summer job at the music venue over the summer. I never cashed my last check. I kind of forgot to pick it up. They mailed it to me. I was like,
00:53:58
Speaker
oh i was i was like i always held on to it i was like this is this will be great i'll save this money and i'll just and it's like free money at this point i'll just i'll spend it when i'm down there i get there in there it's a cashless event you can only use cards uh you can connect your card to your little wristband thing and you don't even need to bring a wallet at all other than so convenient Yeah, right. ah Day two, I was like, Oh, well, so day one, I'm like, I can't use any of this cash. I got a few hundred bucks in cash on me. I'm like, I can't use any of it. I, my intent was to like leave it behind. Forgot, forgot my, a lot of things that day. I just got up and walked to the
00:54:38
Speaker
To the venue, I mean to the whatever the fairgrounds and it was during the used I believe it's like a pit opens up and I'm right there and things get moving. I shortly after that.
00:54:55
Speaker
leave, I go to buy a beer before I watch August Burns Red, I think it was, and then I realized my wallet's gone. just And I intentionally wore the shorts I wore because it has it's like they're basically running shorts with that like liner on the inside that have those little pockets for phones and shit so they don't fall out and you can run with them.
00:55:14
Speaker
um And I thought I had my wallet in there. I guess I'd put it in my regular pocket. Pit opens up. i I just, it falls out of my pocket. Loose, the outer part of the shorts pretty loose. It's gone. So I like fucking haul ass back to where I was. And I like just doing that motion of like holding my hand up like someone lost something. I'm like, I fucking lost my wallet. Has anyone seen it? This lady goes, someone was holding it up. I don't know what happened. there they They're gone. ah it that i mean So I have no credit card, debit card, ID, nothing, and I'm flying i'm fucking flying out tomorrow. So I'm like kind of shitting bricks. It really killed the vibe. ah kill I was like, there's no coming back from this. It's not gonna be fun. Whole weekend was a waste. I went into full blown spiral mode.
00:56:04
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um I luckily was there with some good friends that were like, you know, bought me some drinks, tried to keep me chill and um like what you rub your belly. Yeah. And took me to the heart attack.
00:56:20
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uh bar bistro whatever you know made me feel better got i didn't finish my meal got spanked a few times felt a lot better uh someone ended up turning in my wallet at the end of the night but they did take all of my cash out of it which was very demoralizing i was mad uh i was talking to my like wife the whole time back and forth because and panning i'm like I can't have fun, fuck everything, I hate my life, blah, blah, blah. I was just being a little emo bitch, which is the appropriate place for it. I was gearing up to watch My Chemical Romance, what better place to be a little emo bitch than when we were young. And ah then I finally, I get, they have like a whole notification thing for you can set up alerts. So someone turns it in, I book it as fast as I can, run there, get my wallet, it's empty, I'm pissed. And I text my wife, I was like,
00:57:13
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I think i'm trying I was like someone oh, I got my wallet back, but someone took all the cash out of it I hope they fucking die in a car accident on their way home, and she was like Why would don't say that that's super fucked up like say i like you texted the same thing to me I probably did and I'm like But the all I want still, i look, I don't want them dead. i don't want But I want something bad enough to happen so that way when they wake up in a hospital, they go, I shouldn't have taken that $300. That's all. That's all I want. You just want to know what was you. You just want to know what was karma. Right. like I want to go, would this have happened if I wasn't an absolute fucking piece of shit and stole this guy's money?
00:57:59
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I don't know. That's all. I just want them to consider that. Maybe Sam, maybe they wouldn't have stolen your money if you weren't a giant... I'm just throwing it out there. I feel like your victim's blaming right now, Jeremiah, and I don't like it. Why are you assuming that they're the ones that need to learn a karmic lesson instead of maybe you should be looking inward and saying, should I have learned a karmic lesson? I appreciate what you're trying to do. You have to think about the fact that God let this happen to you.
00:58:28
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Right. Well, like you did you did go to Vegas and as everything we've talked about, like, obviously I feel like you're kind of it's like walking back into Sodom or, um you know, what um I wanted to resist.
00:58:40
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That notion, but I'll accept it because I did take a picture. I did take pictures of a lot of people and and text them to people so I could make fun of them. ben Yes. Yes. So, uh, maybe, maybe you're right. That's acceptable there, actually. that yeah that that' not acceptable with sam i think Okay. I like Casey's perspective. I'm clean. I'm free as it as is a 36 year old father of several and educator, a husband. Oh my God.
00:59:07
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Like you waking up and just stumbling out of your hotel room not knowing what pocket you put your stuff and i do feel like there is a lesson in that i know i think the lesson is dad. all All parents deserve a break here and there and i got mine yeah i would you try is having my level of anxiety to wear if my bag is in the center console the truck i'll check for my wallets presence.
00:59:30
Speaker
15 times on a road trip, a road trip where I've not left the truck in the bag has not left the truck and it's in the exact same place. And I'll just keep checking. Same thing when I'm walking. I'll check everything in my pockets about every 30 seconds like clockwork. Have you tried just being incredibly anxious? i I kind of am in a lot of ways, but I also think that the amount of time you've spent being anxious given how much, you know, given the idea of time being money, you've spent well over how much you ever could have lost being anxious.
00:59:59
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that's That's true, but it but it's it's you know, they're kind of those two things are unrelated. It doesn't really matter if it's logical. Unrelated. But listen to this, though, you mentioned me being a father. This is this killed me. My daughter lectured me the other day because she was talking about how it's not like she's like, Daddy, don't text me pictures and be like, look at these uggos. Don't look at you like them. Look how fat Baconator is over here.
01:00:29
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ah wish She goes, uh, cause she's had some issues with some kids at school and she was talking about how like sometimes she feels like people are talking about her and it makes her upset, blah, blah. So she goes, it's not, it's not okay to like make fun of people if they'd like something different than you. Well, and I'm like, yeah, totally.
01:00:51
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And then she points out when we were ah over the summer, we were on vacation and I was like taking, I was taking a picture of a dude driving a cyber truck and laughing about it. And she, and she brought that up. She was like, ah she goes,
01:01:08
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Well, I mean, so you you shouldn't have you were laughing at that person driving ah at driving that truck that you didn't think that you didn't like and you took his picture and you were making fun of him and that wasn't very nice. And I was trying to be like, well, it's different. And then finally, I was just like, you know what? I'm going to let you lecture me because.
01:01:27
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what what what do i want Do I want to try to nuance your niceties just so you can be ah a worse person like your father? I just i just sat there and took my ah took my beating. You know what? You're right. you're As not a father, I feel qualified to tell you, like yeah, it probably is the best thing to do with that scenario is you wanted to learn the lesson more than you need to be right in that given moment.
01:01:49
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It's hard for you to not need to be right. It's one of Elon Musk's jumping. Yeah. Also Sam, you should take, oh man. All right. Well, no, you should definitely tell her, no, we make fun of him. He's a billionaire. So actually he does. It doesn't count because he's not a person anymore. Um, and, and, uh, Taylor Swift also isn't, I don't know if you've taught her that lesson yet. I haven't made fun of her, but my daughter does like her. My wife's a huge fan, and it's easier for me if I just don't. I'm fine with Taylor Swift. I know people shit on a new album. It's more like just on my own principles. I think I've already talked about this, so I won't get it. I was just doing that as a side thing. Oh, you're a billionaire? Now I have to hate you based on my own code. Yes, you do have a very weird code that has a lot of code. Bazaar hate it but i was gonna i'm trying to give you a compliment if you could just shut up for like i mean so when generally Jeremiah when you compliment people you don't start off with weird i just think that that's well we got to weird because you just wouldn't stop like it's just your your pathological need to try to.
01:02:54
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Be loved for how funny you are. um No. So I think the best part of that whole story, though, is compare that to like our parents' generation and stuff. Your daughter tried to correct you on something and you let her do it and you didn't blow up. And you gave her as a safe spot to be able to do that in. And like when she's older, she's not going to remember what the specific thing was. Or maybe she will, actually. That'll be very funny if she reminds you of that story later. But she'll probably remember like I told dad he was wrong about something and he listened to me and was nice. And it doesn't even matter if you agreed. It just matters that you didn't like pull a in my house or a watch your phone type thing. dude egg That's great. That's exactly what I said to other friends when I was telling the story. I was like, I, it was kind of, I just sit there and take it. Cause I was like, it's kind of an honor to be corrected by your kid and just accept it. Cause if I ever tried to correct my dad, I wouldn't, yeah I wouldn't have tried to correct my parents. I'm like, I'm not. getting anywhere near that like ah ah even now I don't want to I'm like dad I don't know about that and it's like oh we almost ruined our relationship over that conversation let's let's just dodge those bullets yeah it reminds me of that one me without you song
01:04:06
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oh know where he goes
01:04:12
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where it's the sound of like a shofar like being broken over somebody's head while they're like reading slam poetry that wasn't very good to start with. yeah
01:04:22
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you guys And on that note, we're pausing. Okay, now we've all peed. ah While I was peeing, I did ah think, Casey, I kind of refuse to take criticism about music from anyone who says, ghost means not that bad. So Well, to each his own, I guess.
01:04:45
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I can't think of a winning comeback. You like don't need to. Sam, Sam prepped that ahead of time and thought that was going to be a winner and then sat on it and let' say I prepped it. to you It took me 40 seconds to run upstairs with Pete, but it did cross my mind and I felt like something needed to be said that if ah that I mean, that's that's not an easy sell. I know he's got a decent following, but then you look at that following and that's all the people we talked about at strip malls that we hate. So.
01:05:18
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I just like that you were thinking about me while you were shaking this piggy off. Yeah, you do like that. ah Another highlight. um i was the Like I said, I stayed at the Strat. um i didn't Here's the thing. i didn't know there were i I wish I had looked into it more. There was a bunch of shows all around Vegas on Friday night.
01:05:41
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of the like it look like they're like hidden shows and stuff for like, yeah, joes I saw some no knock loose was playing and I still never seen them and I fucking wish I went and saw them. ah But instead I went to they did an emo pool party at my hotel on my floor at the outdoor pool. And that was sick. It was like, um like Emory played, which I did see them again the next day, but they played all the stuff that they weren't playing at when we were young. So that was fun. And it was funny because obviously we had Aaron Lunsford on the podcast a good bit back. And I'm just standing there watching the show and I keep seeing this guy walking back and forth. I was like, why the fuck does he look so familiar? And I realized who it was. And I was just like, Aaron? And he turned over and looked at me and I was like,
01:06:24
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oh Hey, I of course he's not gonna recognize me um just from one podcast like a year ago, but um it was just he's like you have to remind me and I mean i' whatever he remember doing it and we ended up just kind of talking for a good bit. um And he was funny. He's like, I keep fucking walking around because everything sounds like shit out here. This is the this sounds like shit. Does the audio sound like shit to you? And he's just walking back and forth trying to figure out what didn't sound good. I didn't care. I was drunk. I was at a emo pool party drunk and I didn't cross my mind to care about what the sound was at that point.
01:07:04
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Didn't even care about the rest of the bands playing it was just kind of fun to be outside on the eighth floor of like a outdoor pool ah With a band playing and just kind of chillin. It was ah all fun I mean, so I did that I did that after I got with my friend on Friday and then obviously Saturday Sunday was a The show, uh, despite losing my wallet, everything was, uh, I, at least I got my shit back. At the end of the day, I couldn't have been too upset because my biggest fear was being stuck there and like not let on a plane because it stuck in Vegas. Like, cause you know, there's going to be nowhere out. You're going to be stuck in Vegas for really stupid reasons. And then you're going to get lumped in with those people. I know no one wants to be the person in Vegas on a week like ah midweek. If you're in Vegas midweek, it's probably very sad. I didn't know this year. I saw the sphere. That's an incredible work of technological art. I would I guess I don't know how to I that there's cool shit like that. um
01:08:09
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I kind of wish I made time to, I guess they do these little movies there. They're like almost like, like when I went to Disney, they have this thing where you get in like a chairlift and you have that massive screen and you go through like the world. I guess they have stuff like that at the sphere and they do the same types of things where like they have the the wind and the scents and like they make it like a fully immersive experience.
01:08:33
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So there's cool shit like that around that I would have liked to have seen if I had a little bit more time. I could see why there are aspects of Vegas that aren't like the trophy shit. That would be cool. Really? Because I haven't seen any of those.
01:08:48
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No, well, maybe the sphere is the only one. I didn't really gamble. I lost 20 bucks ah trying it. I was disappointed by gambling, honestly. You gambled on humanity's decency. I did. I sure did. And I lost, so I lost $300 gambling.
01:09:05
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um No, when you walk in, you're like, I, everything, it feels like a, it feels like you're at the arcade at a bowling alley. Like there's nothing cool about casinos anymore. ah It's all just like LED lights and screens that you tap on. There's like, and and it's all like empty blackjack and poker tables. I do wish I tried blackjack, but then they have like all the little areas where you do like the, you have to have the motions down. You're like, Oh, here's the hit me. Here's the, I don't know any of it, so you just look like a total noob going up and I get that kind of anxiety over like not knowing shit, so I just didn't do it. But Blackjack is the only form of gambling where I feel like if you win, you can say it's because you did a good job. Yeah, maybe so. Dude, I think what's funny about Vegas too is like i mean people watching is the most fun thing to do there.
01:10:00
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because That's a place where people go like people go there and wear clothes They would never wear at home and they act the way they would never act at home And it's like everybody trying on this like absurdist persona for like the weekend, you know Yeah so you see guys like standing at the bar and they've got like The top three buttons of their shirt unbuttoned and they've got sunglasses on their head inside at night You know, and and you just look at every like I know you're like an insurance salesman from Peoria. you know like What is this thing that you're doing here? Are you just just pretending you're in Goodfellas or something like that? Yeah, there is a lot of acting and persona and it's like flashy outfit. Like everyone's just going all out and then a lot of wedding dresses. I thought that was it's like weird to see somebody move. Probably a would a marriage that's going to last.
01:10:59
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Yeah, there was one of those like wedding halls um at this, it was like a three story little, had like that strip mall vibe, but it was like very small and it was just round. And a lot of the buildings, like a lot of the establishments in it were just like closed and boarded up. And then in the back, there's that little like one day solemn. Wow.
01:11:26
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I don't know, just having my throat there. ah One day solemnizer person just like doing weddings through like a in a neon room where you guys cheer like this.
01:11:37
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That's that's a that feels sad. Like everything about where I was standing felt very sad. The escalator. That was the area where the escalators were broken. Like you couldn't go up any high. Like it was just like where there's like there's areas where it's like all the shit's going on. And then you just like stray off the path a little bit. And you're like that that you feel like it's like zombie apocalypse abandoned. Yeah.
01:12:02
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It's got a, it's just a very weird place. It's not good. It's like nothing about it feels genuine or real, you know? So I don't know. It's, it's funny in a way, but it's kind of depressing in a way. And anytime I've ever had to spend more than like, I don't know, like two or three days there, like day five at in Vegas, like when you're there for work is just, it's horror. Like you just wake up and you're like, Oh my God, I'm still here. You know?
01:12:32
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i I do want to say I kind of surprisingly enjoyed the smell, like the smell of like smelling cigarettes in a building again. I was surprised. I was surprised that I kind of had a subtle enjoyment of that. I was like, Oh, this is a weird thing that I didn't think I'd be like, this makes sense here. Like it felt like the right thing to smell. It felt so sad though. Like there was people, I was, when I was there, we didn't even stay in one of the large,
01:12:59
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hotels and you'd come in and there'd be somebody like at 11 at night that's sitting at one of the slot machines, like smoking and playing fall down for breakfast the next morning. And the same person is sitting there smoking and playing. And it's just like, it's been eight hours. Like what are you doing? What's your mouth tastes like inside all night?
01:13:21
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it's there's a there is a There's a depressing aspect of it, but I don't know, I feel like, I just made me think of, um It brought me back to when I moved to Lynchburg. Have I told this, stop me if I told the story in the podcast before, but when I moved to Lynchburg, there you could still smoke in restaurants. They had the smoking and non-smoking sections. While I was there, they banned it. um And in high school, like late high school, maybe like mostly my freshman year of college, because I did my first year at community college, I would hang out with my friends who smoked and I would
01:13:57
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I would dabble. I'd have a cigarette here or there with my friends. And um when I got to Lynchburg, it was like, holy crap, you can still smoke inside here because that stopped in Massachusetts when I was a kid. um I remember when I was little going to like Chili's with my parents and it would be like, and it was like, we only did that. We weret we didn't have a lot of money.
01:14:21
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we were living on the cape at the time so i was i was younger than thirteen for sure um and i don't know what the kids menu cut off age is but that's when we stopped going out to eat as a family once i we couldn't use the kids menu anymore And it was at some point before we stopped that they would, we would go in and they would say smoking or non smoking. And I was always like, ah it's that's crazy that we all lived in a world that smelled like cigarettes forever for so long. And now you smell it and you go, why does it smell like shit in here? This isn't okay. But we lived in that world permanently for so long. And
01:15:02
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Then I moved to Virginia and you can smoke inside. So we like went to IHOP at like 1 a.m. and bought a pack of cigarettes on our way. And we're like, we we got we you can smoke inside of here. We're going to try this. And yeah we fucking ordered our stack of pancakes. Breakfast comes out at 1 a.m. and we like light up a cigarette.
01:15:22
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and just look at each other and we're like, this feels like shit. I'm smoking over a stack of the worst pancakes I've ever had in my life and I think I wanna kill myself. There's nothing good about this.
01:15:35
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This is a bad decision, I'm not having fun. Stan, because you have to be at a spot in your life, like think how much worse it is. I'd probably love it now. Well, okay, that's not great for the direction I was taking this. Think of where you'd have to be like in your life where that feels like a great thing, where somebody's like, I'm at the IHOP, I got my cigarettes, like finally some rest, some peace and quiet, like I got my two little treats, everything's gonna be okay.
01:16:03
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that honestly when I was in Vegas that's what I wanted I wanted to just I was like if I'm gonna sit and gamble I'm also gonna like I need photo of it I wanted to get one of those little like see-through green visors and just sit there and just like rip a cigarette and turn that into like some photo I get some photo evidence of me just like killing it in Vegas but I'm like, I'm not buying a pack of cigarettes for one shit-ass photo. Yeah, I'll have a- Which I should have. I wish I spent all my money before I fucking lost it to some dirtbag, but hindsight. Hindsight. Hmm.
01:16:40
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Um, yeah, I don't know. I just, uh, I love anything. I avoid Vegas if possible, but I have to go there for work at least once a year, sometimes twice. And that's, I would like to go with the UK. So it's gone. I think if I would have fun, I think if we went, we would just have the funnest time laughing at the worst elements of humanity. Cirque du Soleil was pretty awesome. I enjoyed Cirque du Soleil. There's stuff to do. These are pretty cool.
01:17:09
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I also wish I like if I had more time like of course I would have liked to have seen the Grand Canyon I probably would have even enjoyed seeing like the Hoover Dam dude the landscape around there is very cool yeah like I know some people hate that like empty you know I thought it was beautiful. side I think it's amazing. It like gives me like a sense of awe and adventure. I feel like when you look out the window of the plane and you're like, holy smokes, there's nothing. I wonder how long it's been since a human has stood on top of that mountain.
01:17:43
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you know as a hub to fly in and out of like Vegas is fine. you know The flights aren't that expensive. you know It's whatever. I think the stuff around is definitely more entertaining. The um the Hoover Dam is definitely worth it. I went there kind of on a whim.
01:17:56
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ah and it was It was great. I mean, it's one of the things where once you stare at it for five minutes, you're kind of like, all right, well, I guess I've seen it now. Like there's nothing to do at the Hoover Dam. You can read a couple of the placards or something, but it is one of those things where you've seen it so many times. But then when you see it in person, you're like, this actually doesn't really look anything like it somehow looks just like the pictures, but the environment around it doesn't. And it's impossible to capture the scale and everything unless you're actually there in person. And so like, I don't think it's a long trip, but it's one of those things. I think you'll be glad that you saw it.
01:18:29
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Did you do the indoor tour to like see how it works and shit? yeah see how I just drove up and then I walked out onto the bridge that like faces it. Okay. People can drive over and I just hung out for like 20 minutes and then walk back.
01:18:41
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the uber driver i had on my way to the airport which i gave him five stars but let's be real it was not a five-star ride uh i and actually that was the first time i've ever used a communist you don't want a working man to have any accountability no we just lectured when i first got in the car and i didn't like that i I lectured you. I had never actually used the Uber. I've never used Uber before on my own. I've been with people and taken an Uber, but I've never like I had to download the app. um Never used it. And when I was like,
01:19:16
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getting the right it was like you could there's like the share option and it saved me like twenty bucks so i was like yeah fuck it i guess i'll do the share option and it like gave me this little pin drop of like your pickup location i'm like i don't know where i'm at really and i it ended up like doing a pickup location across the street from the strat which was fine i was like but there's a pickup area at the strat So I messaged, there's like the message option, the message to the driver is that I honestly have no idea what the fuck I'm doing. I was just like, I think I'm out by like the, like the pickup area. Yeah, they're real strict there about where you can be picked up and stuff.
01:19:54
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And that's what he said. So, ah but then I just was like, well, I don't want to be annoying and have him like have to go somewhere that the app ah like different than the app is telling, even though I'm sure he knows his way around Vegas if he's an Uber driver. So I just went to where it was. I said, sorry for the confusion. I'm literally where the pin drop is for the pickup location.
01:20:14
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And he like drives by me and then tries to turn around and then pulls into a lot and they're like then calls me. The dude's 80 something years old, like he's old as fuck. And he's got this cane in the front seat, the people are in the back seat, and he's like,
01:20:30
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i I can't just pick you up anywhere. I could have got a ticket for $200. I was like, I don't know any of this shit, but I know for a fact you didn't respond to any of the messages I sent you over the past 15 minutes. So like- That one might have been there, man.
01:20:48
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a go a bed I just don't know what I'm doing. I'm in an area. I've never used uber. I've never been to Vegas I don't know that you can't pick me up in certain areas and He was pretty mad about it. And so ah he's got a lecture He was kind of doing one of those 2020 things where he's like, it's not my job to educate you. ah Well, ah just it was annoying. It's like, and he's like, you don't ever do the share option. The share options were ridiculous. I was like, well, they offer it and it saved me $20. And I didn't know it was that inconvenient. And honestly, your work, like, do you know how many things I do at work that are inconvenient for me because people need me to do it? Like, that's called work, fuck face.
01:21:35
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Oh, this sounds like a real boomer response. I'm coming here now. Sometimes we have to do work at our job. Now go make your $3.45 a half hour of work. That's the definition of work is at being your job requires you to do things that are slightly inconvenient.
01:21:54
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you like me because i like gro the o codgers and a stuff like so yeah fun be there he was eighty but i was the one acting eighty right i like because I don't enjoy my job I don't think you should enjoy yours I enjoy my job so fuck off I love my job I just have to do inconvenient things sometimes. ah Like spank.
01:22:15
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yeah Spank 350 pound plus men. yeah it's funny that That restaurant's great because it's like 350 pounds eat free. I guarantee you there is not a single woman who's gone and ate there for free. like That is a place men go to eat for free. That's it. I think that is- I'm sure we got some champions out there. There might be.
01:22:39
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Uh, but I know when I looked in there, it was a bunch of, it was, I don't think there was a single person under 45. Most people there looked over well over 50. Yeah. That's the crowd. It wasn't pleasant. It was sad. And it was like, they were, I don't know if they, you know, it's, it's crazy to think that people live there. I think is what I had a hard time dealing with.
01:23:08
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It's like not that little area. It just is suburbs. It's right. And maybe the summer people aren't like in that area. like it felt like almost Almost everyone who was there felt like they were there intentionally. They came there. It's a little bit like living in the Everglades. They're like, it's an affront to God that people are trying to live in the middle of the desert like that. like Vegas can't support itself. It doesn't have the infrastructure and as climate change gets worse, like I don't know that Vegas is going to be wiped off that necessarily, but like, I don't think they're going to continue growing indefinitely because it's just too inconvenient to live there. Like it worked up to um according to my Uber driver.
01:23:50
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It's gonna be a, ah ah let me say it's gonna, I forget what he said, the basically the population's gonna- Wow, thanks for sharing, Sam. Yeah, sorry. He was saying the population's gonna basically jump like ah a million people in the next five years is the estimation.
01:24:06
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I mean, it's possible it could the next five years. I just think they're in the same spot that a lot of places in the southwest are in where like they just they their infrastructure has relied on pulling from other areas for so long that as those areas run out of fresh water and stuff like it's just going to become too expensive and too difficult to live there for a lot of people. It's already Actually, the Daily Podcast, the New York Times Daily News Podcast, they did ah art of are a um an episode this week on the housing market in Las Vegas, just as an example of what's happened to the housing market everywhere else, where 20 years ago, you could move there, and everything was cheap. Food was cheap, housing was cheap. like They wanted people to move there to work, um and now it's gotten to the point where like it it's just like a lot of other places. It's gone up by 200% or something for rent. And it's the problem almost every destination has right now like tourist destination of they can't attract enough of the young people that they need there to be their like iterate workforce um because like the jobs might pay okay, but you can't afford to live there. So then you're stuck with people
01:25:10
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who are desperate working those jobs. And like it's it's just a very different vibe than it used to be. And you can't attract the cool, artsy, weird people that make the place cool because they can't afford to live there either. And then, yeah, you need a desperately need a bunch more injection mold houses for drone pilots working on a disability like a personality disorder.
01:25:33
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or tech tech bros from farther north to buy an Airbnb out to people to cover the rent. So the money can go through Vegas, but not actually stay in Vegas. Like it's yeah, that's a lot of it. You're right. It's so many places are having that problem. I think Vegas is going to get hit even worse because it's like it's a place that can't sustain itself in the first place. It's like it's basically an island. It's just an island that you can technically drive to.
01:26:01
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Yeah, what's the river that the water is sourced from there? Do you remember? Does anyone know? Not off the top of my head. Lake Mead is the the reservoir there that they pull a lot of their water from, but it's like going dry. Yeah, so my friend was telling me that I i might have the date wrong, but by like twenty was it it might have been like 2027 or something like that that you can't use.
01:26:26
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water that comes from possibly that reservoir, maybe another supply source, to water lawns in order to keep them green, ah unless you're a golf course. Of course, golf courses get that exception. but um like ah that Because when I got there, I was talking to my friend, I was like, is there grass? I mean, is i flying in, my question was, is there even grass here?
01:26:48
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because there shouldn't be if there is but it would be it seems wild to that someone could like keep a nice lawn going and he's like he said yeah technically yeah there is like people have their little tiny yards with some grass but by ah some date coming up in the next few years you're not allowed if you're water sourced from a certain area you're not allowed to you won't be allowed to water your lawn anymore.
01:27:14
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but it's like small scale terraforming to have a one there it is but that's ah other places are also going to be having problems like that like we legitimately i oh man i i don't know if this is the right time in the podcast an hour and 30 minutes in to go on a rant about Like, lawns shouldn't be a thing. Like, lawns work places where it rains a ton. Lawns shouldn't exist other places. The amount of of money and water we waste on lawns. Like, I think we just take it for granted, in the States at least, that like, we can make water be anywhere. And we can use air conditioning. Like, the combination of piping water in,
01:27:49
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flying in food and stuff are relatively cheap or driving it in. And then air conditioning just makes us think, well, like, you can live anywhere. You can do anything. And like, that's not true. We've just somehow gotten away with it for long enough that we're like those bills start coming due. Like there's giant towns built up or cities that i I honestly don't think are going to be able to survive. And Vegas might be one of them. Hopefully. I mean, if we're lucky. Yeah, I'm not going to be protesting salination. That's like the ah That's the only way forward, basically. I mean, even where I live, there's water bands everywhere. It's like, yeah, certain, you cannot water your lawn during certain times a day, ah which is funny because you could just use all the water you want before those times. And so I don't, and I would love to see the data on how water bands work. That'd be, I'd be curious to see that, but, but yeah, there are water bands once.
01:28:48
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and Neither of i had many lines i've never watered them once i will i will give away my watering the lawn privileges completely i'll sell my carbon credits off as long as i can use my air conditioner without question whenever i want that's all i care that's fair.
01:29:04
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I think I do feel like there are very few things that would make me like commit acts of domestic terrorism and air conditioners are prob, like, I don't know at a certain point are why we call ourselves free anymore. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. as a point Do you, do you, and do you like invade the Capitol? I think a i are we're on the same page as like sweaty Southern boys, sweaty, pudgy Southern boys. There's some hard red lines.
01:29:33
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And it is only fair that if we're going out of a way to raise the temperature of the planet that we should, I mean, we should be able to accommodate that with air conditioning. I don't think it's, we should have to suffer. Only right. Just shut the lights off somewhere else. Yeah. You know, just turn the lights off on like Taiwan. Who cares?
01:29:54
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Well, we're pretty much turning him off in the Middle East right now. So that we are. Wow. We don't have to talk about it. We're an hour and a half in. It's time to get out of here. Uh, you guys indulge my Vegas conversation. This is a Vegas episode, is a very, a very Vegas special. I like that. Yep. Now, now we've all been to Vegas. How cool is that guys? Uh, I, I wish just more than anything that I hadn't, but that's fine.
01:30:25
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I like that that temporarily rendered you speechless. I wish, I wish more of my comments did. They're just, they're just so few places that like just, that just the smell, it doesn't leave. It doesn't leave my mind. Like I smell just see a lot. I smelled a lot of pee in Vegas. For being in the middle of the desert, it it like there's no humidity. It felt clammy. Like Dude, I woke up every day with the driest boogers I've ever had in my life. It was crazy. i was like It felt like someone sandblasted my nostrils. Did you get any nosebleeds? I actually didn't, ah but I am susceptible to those in the New England winters, so i'm I'm surprised I didn't.
01:31:11
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Yeah, like I never have issues with them, but it, but except when it's really, really dry, like I had that happen, not in Vegas, but when I was in Colorado um up at high elevation, there was really low humidity and I had some issues with it. Like it's just not a pleasant feeling. I don't know. I'm still ripping chapstick like an addict right now. Like my lips dried out so bad there.
01:31:31
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like I couldn't drink enough water to not just be a raisin. I drank a lot of, ah not a lot, I actually didn't, it's not like I wasn't like wasted. i For a festival, I didn't drink that much. um Like I felt pretty like, it's also because I'm cheap and paying $18 for a fucking beer pissed me off. So I didn't $18. I just wouldn't. Sam, I've done this thing at at concerts for years where I just bring in some cough drops i look on one when I get thirsty because I i won't pay $7 for water or whatever. Although a lot of concerts have gotten a lot better about having free water cooler. That's free water. You have to you could bring in an empty bottle and get free water all day.
01:32:11
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You got 24-ounce beers for $16, so at least like it was more like going big. That's pretty stadium standard if you go to like ah ah any sporting event.
01:32:24
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um But day two, I realized that they don't, there's no pat downs and security checks are minimal. So I lined my shorts with nips and then we had a locker. So I like just got there and dumped them in the locker and just took some break. So day two, I drank a little bit more, but otherwise.
01:32:44
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Mostly fine. So but my point is I wasn't all dried out from drinking. I i can drink like that for a weekend. ah No problem. But my lips cracked. My nostrils dry. Everything felt just everything was so dry. I kind of actually there was like I would need to get used to that. Like that the constant application of chapstick and shit like that. But like generally I found the dry that dryness very appealing. I and i enjoyed the weather and the climate there.
01:33:13
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yeah It's like Arrakis. Okay, so here's the thing. It was 75 and sunny. Sorry. If you are if you're planning ah ah like a weekend and you're like, I want to go somewhere with my buddies or my wife and I want to get out of town. We want to go someplace fun and party or whatever. Don't go to Vays. Go to New Orleans. New Orleans rules. and I want to go wicked bad. I would love to go to New Orleans.
01:33:41
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I really like it. And it's dirty and and gross in some ways, but it's like an authentic. It's got authentic crime. Like yeah they have they have actual culture there that they will like. Yeah. They're kind of like Charleston where like you go there, you're experiencing that city. Like they're not they're not there trying to emulate anybody else. They're like, you're here for us. And this is what we do. Dude, and the food in New Orleans.
01:34:05
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Oh my God, it's so good. It's the best. It's like the best Vegas. All the food in Vegas is mid or worse. It's like everything that you do in Vegas. It's like, Oh, you're here for breakfast. Oh, would you like to try the Oreo cheesecake French toast?
01:34:23
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That's how all food is there. New Orleans is like, would you like a grilled alligator? Would you like the fluffiest beignets you've ever had in your life? like Oh my god, beignets. There's just so much good food everywhere. Is beignet different than bengay? Yes, it was a very different thing. east but Both are fine to rub on your balls. Okay, that's what I was curious about. that's like That was half the most pressing question.
01:34:48
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no Cafe du Mont. Isn't that the one in like downtown New Orleans the where you go? It's like beignets and coffee is the thing. It's open all night or whatever. God, I love New Orleans. I'm going there. This year's the year that they do like the big dealer convention thing there. So I think it's in January, end of January, early February. So I'm going down. I'm definitely going to spend a couple extra days, probably take April along. Can you take me inside?
01:35:17
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Take me instead. No, you can come, you could come and I'll sleep in the middle <unk>ll for exam places if it's like in the middle of the summer, so we can experience the South again. Like, I feel like he's up in New England, just having an easy time. No, I think you underestimate how much I enjoy the heat. Ah, okay. then yeah i And you're going to make a andne heat though. And like July is that is i'm sure it's brutal brutal. It's unlivable. It's very hard, but I would.
01:35:45
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If so in my brain, if I'm thinking ah like if I, you know, you have those daydreams where you're like, if I had money and I was going to retire, like where would I be? I could see having like a house on pon like Pontchartrain or something like that down there by New Orleans that I could, I could be there in like the fall and winter and stuff like that. And then having like, uh, a place somewhere up north in the woods for the summertime.
01:36:15
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I think that would be like the ideal upper upper Michigan, um, I think is going to be fertile and a decent place to live for like a decent place. If you like up coast baby, main coast. I need to see that. I need to see gorgeous. When you, when you like watch these massive ass pine trees, just butt right up to the ocean. Oh man. You could literally live in the woods on the ocean. It's the fucking greatest place on earth.
01:36:45
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Yep. Well, you know, I'm taking a little trip myself this weekend. I'm going to beautiful Ogallala, Nebraska. Oh yeah. Pretty excited. It's not return. In fact, I mean not to. Are you getting, do you think you might get murdered? What is there? What what are you doing? Uh, we're going for the pheasant opener up there. So we're going to be hunting for a couple of days. Gotcha.
01:37:14
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It's all I want to do right now. I don't care about anything except for bird hunting. That's all I want to do. He's been buying small thrift store guns for a year, just stocking himself up for the time where he can take them all. He's going to quench that thirst for blood that he gets every year. Yep.
01:37:31
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Something has to bleed in order for me to be happy. Mail me some pheasant, I've never tried it. free Freeze, freeze pack it, pack freeze, freeze pack. Do what you gotta do. Okay, deal. Or just send me a dead pheasant in the box. I would honestly love the shit out of that too, that'd be hilarious. but Don't clean it, nothing, just like put it in a ziplock and shit it. Have I got a dead pheasant mailed to my house? It's like, well I didn't have worms when I s sent it.
01:38:01
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I didn't lay eggs on it. Alright. Well, alright. Thanks everybody for listening. See you next time.