In this episode Andrew and Patrick discuss what it takes to produce a quality product, the possibility of raising your station in life, imports and tariffs, and the importance of having a network of trusted people.
When all men are paid for existing, and no man must pay for his sins, as surely as water will wet us, as surely as fire will burn, the gods of the copybook headings with terror and slaughter. return
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Hello everybody and thank you for joining us for another episode of the Copybook Headings podcast. If you're new listener just joining us for the first time, this show is inspired by the poem by Rudyard Kipling called The Gods of the Copybook Headings.
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And every week we take an old saying, proverb, or maxim and we break it down to see what we can learn from it and see if there's still any ancient any ancient wisdom that's relevant in these old proverbs.
Hosts' Greetings and Weather Chat
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I am your host Patrick Payne and with me as always is my co-host Andrew Stevens. Andrew, how are you doing? I'm doing all right. it's ah it's been we had some really nice, warm, sunny spring days. Now we're, we're back into the spring, spring rain and sleet. No.
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Yeah. We got a bunch of snow up here and yeah, we were same thing. It's like, it Oh yeah, it's raining all day and now it's snowing. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the mountain West for you.
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Yep. Yeah. So, yep. My kids are happy that there might be a few more days of skiing left this season. So yeah, be happy about that. Yeah. That's it. That makes it nice. Like one of my funnest like summers and when I was growing up in high school was, I don't know, might've been the year i graduated, maybe the year before, I can't remember, but we had just a ton of snow that year and we were skiing pretty much, I think almost up to the 4th of July.
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And so, i mean, it got it was the point where you had like, it was only like the top end of the mountain that was open, right? Like you had to kind of walk through the the rocks to get to the lift that'll take you up the rest the way. But, but it was a lot of fun skiing and a t-shirt and shorts and stuff, right? Like it was just nice memories. So yeah, go and ski the slush. It's fun.
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Yeah, exactly. Just chew up your skis on the, on the rocks that are sticking out everywhere. Exactly. Well, cool, man.
Proverb Analysis: From Rags to Riches
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um Yeah, we've got a got an interesting proverb this week. This is one you picked. You want to tell us about it?
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Yeah, you cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Nice. I think that's a one that everyone has heard, but maybe not one that everyone uses. no But I think it's pretty common one at least to have heard of.
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Yeah, I've heard of it. i don't think I've ever used it. um And I i mean, i guess I can cut. When I heard it, I was like, man, what does this mean? And I figured I could kind of guess what it meant.
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um But I don't know. Why don't you tell us?
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Um, well, essentially that you can't, uh, turn something that is, um, you know, not worth a lot. That's ugly, low grade. You can't make it into something high grade, valuable or attractive.
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Yep. And we can talk about, um, the extent to which this is true, but, yeah but I mean, yeah, it's, it's like, you can't, it's a, it's an alchemy and an alchemy thing, right? You can't transmute.
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You know, later you're lead into gold kind of thing. Um, so there, are there are some qualities of materials that just, you can't change them out how you try and dress them up.
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Now, um, so is this kind of like a lipstick on a pig type of, type of things? It's, it seems similar to me. Yeah, I think so. um yeah Yeah. I think there's, there's a lot that are kind of in this, in this ballpark.
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Um, many to do with pigs to do with pigs. Yeah. ah Well, I mean, that's a funny one, right? That's, uh, uh, ah ah pretty, a pretty universal animal, like throughout the world. Like it goes, goes around the world. Lots of cultures have, have pig proverbs and, and they're not, uh,
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you know, they're not the cleanest animals. And, and so, uh, there's lots of, lots of proverbs about them. Uh, the, the earliest one I found with this one goes back to the late 1500s, um, an English, an English book of proverbs.
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Um, a lot, there's later attributions to this being like a Scottish proverb specifically. um, and want One example from a ah dictionary of terms, ah like slang terms from Scotland and the the entry for the word lugs.
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um This proverb shows up um because I guess that is the Scottish slang or in 1699 for ears. Lugs. Lugs, really?
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Yeah. L-U-G-G. So, yeah, someone had pierced ears. You might say they had punched lugs. but Let's bring it that up.
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Yeah. yeah The gauges or something. um Yeah, they got holes in their lugs. I like it. I like it. um So when I first was, when you sent this one over and I was looking at it a little bit, I initially thought that it was probably...
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people probably applied this to other people. I would imagine like yeah that person's not worth anything. You know, they're, you can't, they're low class. They're never going to be anything is, is the, what do you think of that?
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That's that probably happened. Yeah, that, I think that definitely happened. Yeah. yeah It's a way of, way of dismissing people, way of dismissing what people are, other people are doing um new ideas.
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Like there's a lot, There's a lot going on here that I think um is kind of ah using negative just not...
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using a proverbed um
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to be negative and and yeah pin just to to not Yeah. but to To be negative, not not try and improve, to to dismiss people, dismiss their ideas.
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Yeah. yep And that was, I think, much more common back in the day when it was like um people didn't really believe so much in the the idea that people could – the stereotypes and the and the the generalizations were much more common.
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Yeah. I feel like now we've kind of gone to the other extreme where any general generalization is like, people will go out of their way to do something ridiculous to not, you know, follow a stereotype, you know, someone will come up to apply for a job and, you know, they got like a teardrop tattoo or it says born to kill across their neck or something They're like, well, they seem like they could be, you're like, come on, bro. Like yeah sometimes, sometimes you can't just look at, look at what you're looking at. But yeah,
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Uh, but yes, I feel like it's a little bit too far the other way now, but yeah, back in the day, it was like, must've been rough if you came from a lower class or something, even if you're trying your best, because I don't think a lot of people would have given you a fair shake.
Realistic Life Improvements
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Yeah. Yeah. You think, uh, if you, you live in some little village and you know, you're raising pigs to stay alive, like you probably rarely if ever even saw like a silk purse, right? Like that was like,
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the height of luxury and and just um and and fanciful luxury. right like No one in that in that station should rightly dream to have a silk purse. And so um so it's it's kind of kind of saying you know to stay in your station also and and to and to accept accept what it is. And I think in that regard, there's some use there.
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um in that you need to be realistic about your circumstances. But today, you know, there's all better better chance than ever in history to to improve your circumstances. So sure this one, I think in that regard is not quite as applicable as it as it used to be when it was formulated.
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Yeah, I agree with that. I do think there's still some value in understanding where you're at and understanding. um and don't think you're stuck where you need to where you are necessarily, but I do think that um it can be dangerous to try to leapfrog a bunch of steps or something. you know i think people can make bad financial decisions or do things that are risky or foolish if they're trying to rather than being like, Oh, I, I didn't came come from really anything, but I'm going go to night school and get my college degree.
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Then I'm going to go to law school and i'm going to become a lawyer. And then I'm going you know, 10 years from now I could be somebody and make, you know, be making good money and live in a nice house versus next year. I'm going to, you know what mean? Like, yeah i think there's a couple different routes. so I, you know, the first, sure. If you're going work hard and, and,
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grind and scratch and get it better yourself. um Totally cool. ah But I think understanding, look, I got a long way to go and, you know, trying to become a millionaire by next year is usually ah recipe for a disaster.
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um And I think also what people don't think of very often is it's, it's become less common to think about the next generation. Right. Whereas you'd be like, all right, maybe I can't become a multimillionaire, but I could have my house paid off and I can have some money squirreled away for retirement and I can leave that to my kids and then they could sell the house and then they could have some money in their pocket to to, to, leverage that, send their kids to college and whatever. And then they could do even better.
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When you think multi-generationally, it's a lot, those lofty dreams of, you know, becoming ah a millionaire or becoming a doctor or becoming or whatever. if you're thinking instead of me, mate my kid or my grandkid, that becomes much more attainable.
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Yeah. Um, yeah, absolutely. Cause know, you know, there are limitations of, of ability and circumstance, um, especially so still with circumstance that, you know, you might be, you can't avoid,
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um Like you can you can get into the best college you can get into, but it might not be the best college, right? yeah And so there are going to be doors that are closed to you because of that.
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sure um But like you said, ah that doesn't necessarily mean that's the case for for your kids or grandkids. And if you have that long view and instill in them that long view, um they can they can move up or or in a direction that um is fulfilling to them.
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Yeah, I think that's super underrated nowadays is ah or under underappreciated rather, that the concept of changing your family tree going forward and it's all about, you know, what am I going to do for my life versus...
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Okay. Yeah. Maybe you, you had a hard time in life. Nobody really helped you in school. Your parents kind of didn't, weren't around or something and you got C's all through school. Well, you're probably not going to go to Harvard, you know, cause you got C's in high school.
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So that, that door's probably closed you as you, like, like you mentioned. But, but yeah, I mean, if you think long-term, you can think, all right, well, what can I do to make sure that my kids have every opportunity? I could sit down with them every day and help them with their homework.
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Um, even if it's, you know, stuff like that, it's not necessarily like giving them something financially, but just being there for them. And, and, uh, um, Matt's huge. When you start thinking about that, um, ah that that's and and there people have commentators have made the point that people without kids just seem to have less stake in the future.
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Cause like, you know, the future generations don't mean much to them. Yeah. Yeah. And there's a lot, there's lots of things that you learn along the way that, um, are, that are sometimes like too late for you to employ. Like, I think, um, a lot of, a lot of about like what college is about, what, what, uh,
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graduate degrees are about like, I know that when I was in high school and stuff, I thought, okay, well you need to go, like, if you want to be top tier, you got to go like the Ivy league, got to go to Harvard and then, and then you've made it. Right. And then I get to college and, and was just a little ways into college. I realized, oh wait, it's depending on what you want to do.
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Um, like, You can go to a nice a nice middle middle tier one. um And then if you kind of narrow narrow in on what you want to study, then at that point, you can go to like the grad school at the really good school.
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And that's what really counts for your field. And so you can and you not as and depending on your field, there might be a one particular school that is not... the the main, like the overall prestige school, but for that field, it is the prestige school yeah and and you can get in there. So like that kind of thinking is not something that I grew up with, but I'm, you know, if my kids go to go the route, go to college, like that's something I'll, I'll definitely let them know about and, and focus on so that they're not, um,
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You know, not stressing about it in high school quite as much because you can, there's plenty of time in college to stress about it and, and, ah and really focus in on what you want and not just, you know shoot for these, these crazy schools right out of, you know, from
Strategic Education Focus
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starting your freshman year of high school.
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Yeah, man, I think that's great advice. There's a lot of like affordable state, local and state schools that you can get into. And if you wanted to go to med school or law school or so get some you know advanced degree in engineering or math or whatever.
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Yeah, that that grad school, um as long as you did fairly well in your your undergrad and got decent grades and test scores. I don't think a lot of them often don't care where you went.
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It's as long as you could pass the test or you have good, you know, looking like you could do a good job. And there you go. Yep. Absolutely. So yeah, that's really good advice. um Aside from like,
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people and that that was the first thing that i came up with is people like oh you can't make a can't make a yourself person out of a sound here look at this guy you know he's he's yeah he's from the other side of the tracks he's never gonna be anything but apart from that uh how else kind of was this is this used well i did i did think of like materials with this one like yep pretty literally because uh you know i thought of leather, for example, or quality, you know kind of quality goods, um you know, you, you can't, you can't make a nice, you know, you know, cow leather thing out of a, out of a pig leather, right? Like out of, of a sow's ear.
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um So there, there are like, you know, grades of quality that, um that are, just unchangeable. like A good craftsman can can make a lot out of something out of inferior quality goods or tools, but but they're it's not going to be as good as if they had had the the top stuff, the really quality materials. And I think about this a lot just with trying to keep that in mind when I buy things.
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Um, and when my family acquires things and the kids acquire things, you know, like it always just kind of gets at me come Christmas time and stuff. And they're getting loaded up with plastic toys and junk. And like, I don't want, I don't want that to be.
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And that, and that was break really fast. Right. Of course. And like, like, I don't, I don't like that kind of life. I want things that last for them. I want things that, will last long enough they could give it to their kids and their grandkids and um even some like even ah even a toy. And so that's the kind of stuff i i thought about with this one was um seeking out good materials to start.
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You might have to pay more for it like you would with the silk purse, but then you've got a silk purse. You don't have a ah some some ah rayon thing or you know nylon masquerading as silk. Yeah.
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yeah So yeah, that's, that's, that's what came to mind for me. Yeah, totally. If you've ever done any like woodworking, i mean, if you have a good quality wood, a mahogany or an oak or something, I mean, it just doesn't compare to like some pine that is, you know, it's not as pretty, it chips and and scratches so much easier. And, and, and, oh, you know, ah along with that too, like cooking,
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Um, yeah, I remember my first time, like I had moved out on my own, you know, I was living by myself or living with a roommate, you know I moved out of my folks house and I'm like learning how to cook for the first time. And I didn't know how to cook and I microwave stuff.
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But, um, like fettuccine Alfredo is one of my, like, what was one of my favorite meals. Yeah. And so I was telling my sister, was like, oh man, that was my She's like, why don't you make it for yourself? like, oh, don't know how to do that. She's like, no, no, no, you can do it.
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We'll get you a recipe. I'll help you. So she helped me. She, uh, she took me to the grocery store and it was kind of an upscale grocery store, this place. And, um, You know, I didn't have that much money, but I had, I didn't have much to spend my money on. So I was like, I'm just going to get like the best.
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I'm going to get like the fanciest cheeses and the, and the, you know, all the, the best pasta, everything. Anyway, it turned out really good. Even though I wasn't much of a cook, I just followed the recipe, but I'm like having the, like the really good ingredients and the Parmesan cheese. That's like really good compared to the stuff in a, in a bottle or can or whatever, you know?
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Um, yeah It turned out really, really good with heavy whipping cream. And a man, it's just like, it was awesome. And so, yeah, if if you start with good stuff, sometimes it's kind of hard to go wrong. Yeah. um Also, you know, this, this did make me curious, you know, what, what can you do with a pig's ear?
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No, that's a good question. And I think the, the answer for my research mostly is eat it. So there's a lot of ah lot of cuisines that people... So let me let me see here. We've got... I feed them to my dog. Bulgarians. Well, oh, there we go. So that's that's the other one.
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um So we got all all these kinds of Chinese, Cantonese, Filipino, Lithuanian, Portuguese, Spanish, Thai.
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um These are all places that eat pig's ears? Yeah, yeah. ah You know, prepare them all different ways. But at the very end of this Wikipedia article, dog treats. So, yeah, get that's that's probably the only way that.
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pig ears would be in my house as yeah as dog breeds. I think, uh, I'm not, I'm not that adventurous when it comes to uh, the other parts of animals that, that a lot of people eat. I guess they, uh, the, when you cook them, they kind of go like the outside turns kind of gelatinous and in the middle is kind of a crunchy cartilage. Oh, gross. And so, uh, and then you you slice it thin. And so you get these little,
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I don't know, man. i don't know. I don't ever try to, I would not eat one wittingly, but if, ah if I ate it and it turned out good and someone told me, I'd be okay, sure. I wouldn't, ah probably wouldn't be too mad.
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Yeah. We, yeah we get, they're like 99 cents at the, at the cow ranch store. So we'll get them for the dog sometimes. and She chews them up. She loves those things. But yes, I'm kind of with you in terms eating myself. I don't know about that.
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um But who knows? Maybe I've had pig ear at a Chinese restaurant one time and know it. Yeah, exactly. that's That sounds like something my my friend might spring on me.
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Spent a lot of time in in China and go to restaurants together and you know he's ordering in Chinese and stuff. So I wouldn't be surprised if he sprang that on me. yeah Nice.
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um Okay, so you usually around this time we talk about the the gods of the marketplace, which is like the what society feels about this. Yeah.
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I don't know what to make of this one in terms of if society respects it or not or values it. Um... Sometimes I feel like society now is like you said, like real plastic, like, no, we can make something good out of like the cheapest materials possible.
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Yeah. um Everyone's kind of at, rather than taking pride in their work, everyone's kind of more of this kind of capitalistic rent seeking where they're just like, how can we maximize profits no matter what by making the cheapest crap and charging the highest price we can get away with?
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Yeah. um That kind of seems more of the culture nowadays. I don't know. What what are your thoughts on that? Yeah, I think so. that's ah There's kind of that race to the bottom as far as quality, like the lowest quality you can get away with.
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and yeah and And a lot of it is, yeah, it's cost-driven the part of the companies and on the part of the people buying. um But I think there does still seem to be...
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um
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you know, a fairly good contingent of people who who like quality and who recognize things for what they are. Right. But, but it's, it's hard to find and, and maybe it, maybe it's coming back or maybe I, I'm not sure if it's just the circles I run in or people are more like me and are more interested in that kind of stuff.
Consumer Product Quality Decline
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um That's hard to say if you're getting that, that kind of echo chamber type thing, but yeah, it's, it's, It's a bit of a shame and i don't think it's, it's going away anytime soon, but just try and go cheapest materials and make them, I mean, try and make them look, look real nice with the design and stuff like that's gotten real sleek, but, um, but it's plastic underneath.
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Well, you know, I got one of your belts ah you made yeah made for me. um So for people who need leather work done, you should check out Andrew's Etsy store. um But ah I had been wanting to get a new belt and the last like several I'd owned, even if though they looked kind of nice, like they were left nice looked nice leather in the store, they would fall apart or they would like yeah get really messed up. And so When I found out that you were doing that, I'm like, oh, there's a guy that I know and trust is making real stuff out of real leather with his real hands. like
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Like, yeah, that's what I want. I just want something real for for a change. Not some mass produced piece of crap, like plastic thing that like is faux leather and kind of fakes it. yeah and i just there So yeah, I think at least for me, it seems like there's a demand for that kind of real stuff.
00:23:03
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Yeah, yeah there I think there is. And um and that's another that's a good aspect that brings to mind. Like with leather, it's it's a good example.
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um where you've got like these different grades and people, but people don't know what they mean. And so like they, it just, it'll say like, you know, genuine leather, but it's like, um, here, here's a little, a little, uh, lesson on it. Like, you know, cut that the hide is pretty thick when it comes off the cow.
00:23:34
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Um, you know, a lot of your leather stuff's pretty thin and like, you know, fine and flexible. And the way they do that is by, by shaving, you know, by shaving that, like splitting it, it's called. Um,
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And, you know, that, that hair side is, is the, is the nice part that has a cool texture to it. That's a really durable and, and that goes in, that's more expensive because that's sought after, but that other piece underneath that gets shaved off, that's on the flesh side.
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um They'll still want to use that. And so they'll take that, they'll put like a plastic coating on it to make it look like it's the, the top grain leather and they'll call it, you know, they'll call it genuine, but it's,
00:24:15
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And it, you know, mostly is, but it's not going to have the same characteristics and it's going to flake and fall apart because it's just got like this plasticized paint on it. So there's all all sorts of that kind of stuff that.
00:24:29
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um, it was just like little marketing tricks that, that people fall for, you know, like organic food is another one, right? Like there's different like words they use, like certified or, or you know, all these, these, and some of those words are like have meaning with the government or some body, but but legally and they're just, yeah, they're not legally binding. And so you just, as a consumer don't know,
00:24:54
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don't know what you're getting sometimes unless you're like really into it and doing all the research. That's so gross. It grosses me out of like the fake crap and the little games they play. And it's like, Oh, ah what do you think about?
Quantity vs. Quality Debate
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I mean, know we don't usually delve too much into politics in the show, but like, what do you think of the, can, can stuff be done about that? Like, I know Trump's trying to do the tariffs, trying to make, get stuff more made here in America, which I,
00:25:21
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I can appreciate the sentiment. and I think, you know, that could be one way more, one way to get more real stuff. If you have less stuff that's imported from, from cheap, really cheap places made in sweatshops.
00:25:34
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But I don't know, is there something that can be done about that? What what what are your thoughts? Yeah, I think, I think a lot of it is is exciting. um Cause I like, like if you like quality and if you want to support, you know,
00:25:47
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your country or, you know, ideally local people and people who make things nearby and companies that operate nearby. i think it's potentially, has potential to be a good idea and, and have i'm good, good effects. I think time will tell of course.
00:26:02
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um But yeah, i wouldn't, I wouldn't be heartbroken if, if, cheap plastic toys from China were twice as expensive and just bought half as many of them. Right. Yeah. That'd be fine with me. And, um, and then maybe you go on, on Etsy and find someone who's making some cool wooden toys or something like that here. And yeah.
00:26:25
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And you know, you might be spending the same amount and you're going be getting something better. So I think hope I think, uh, yeah, it has potential to drive, drive money in in good places ah you i you know used to have more of a libertarian sense about some of this kind of stuff like well yep and you know like with with like certifying things like oh we don't need the like don't need the government to to say what weather is right like me like but maybe like a a private body could do that and maybe maybe still they could but um
00:26:58
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But in the short term, I'm not terribly opposed necessarily to the government make making decisions on some of these things. um I think as we go forward with with the like there's plenty of uh real world fake stuff and and as we're moving into the the digital fake stuff era um you know personal reputation i think this can be even more important so to it's not like not just who you rely on to to buy uh
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to buy a belt from or work on your car or something like that, you're, you're moving into like, do I trust this video? Right. that i see online And if so-and-so says it's legit and I trust them because they've they've got a good reputation, then I guess I'll trust it. But otherwise it's going to be the era of not trusting anything you see unless you know someone who can verify it.
00:27:51
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And that's going to be, that's going to kind of wild. Yeah, man. Yeah, I agree. less let Less Amazon, more Etsy would be, would be good. and More real handmade stuff.
00:28:02
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um But yeah, the, the video seems like kind of the last frontier of it because I like to do a lot of research before I make a purchase and buy something. Yeah. And for years now, it's been almost impossible to find good reviews on product reviews that weren't completely fake other than a YouTuber that you knew and trusted.
00:28:23
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That was basically the it because if you found anything in print, it was either translated from Chinese written by AI. And it's been that way for a long time now. Like, and and you can tell, you can spot it if you're, if you're paying attention, um you know, just the way they word things. I'm like, what, who says things like that? I'm like oh, a Chinese person does whose English isn't their first language. You know, you, You can tell, and it'll be like ah a scope for a rifle or something. Like this scope is very good for hitting your hunting target needs.
00:28:54
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And you're like, what? Like, yeah this is so weird. And then you're like, everything is fake. It's just like scrolling, you know, article after article. Like they're all fake. You know, the first hundred results in Google.
00:29:06
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And so then you'd have to turn to YouTube because it's at least it's a real person just sitting there. And if you've been following their channel for a while, but then again, that can be fake too. Cause then a lot of these influencers are paid for their opinions and we're just like inundated with fakeness in this world.
00:29:22
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Yeah. Oh, we talked about this other one I saw ah I've been seeing more lately? It's the, uh, instead of saying made in the U S S designed in the U S Yep.
00:29:33
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Yep. It's a, it's a, it's a cheap get around of saying, Oh yeah, we, we designed it here and then we made it in in China. Another one is, ah like assembled in the United States. So like all the parts are manufactured somewhere else and they go click, click, or like snap them together when they get here. and then they're like, it was assembled in the United States.
00:29:50
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Yep. Fake.
Conclusion and Call to Action
00:29:55
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All right. Well, Yeah. You can't, you can't make a silk purse from Sal's ear. You can't make good stuff out of crappy materials.
00:30:03
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We here at the copy book headings podcast are very pro real and very anti fake. be Be real, buy real things, make real things. Yep.
00:30:14
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Trade them. Yep. Shop local, get to know, get to know people who are selling you things. um Networks are great. It's great to see you have a guy and you can refer your friend to your guy. Right. Love it. Like.
00:30:29
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It's, it's, it's really, it feels really good. Yeah. Yeah. So go be the guy, find the guys. For sure. For sure. That's so much better. That's so much better than trying to Google it and you never know what the heck you're going to get. Most of it's yeah awful.
00:30:43
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So man, good advice, Andrew. Thank you. And thank you everybody for listening. We're about out of time, but we will catch you guys all next week. All right. We'll see you. All right. Later. There are only four things certain since social progress began.
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that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins, when all men are paid for existing, and no man must pay for his sin, as surely water will wet us, as surely as fire will burn, the gods of the copybook head in,