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An Apple a Day Keeps the Doctor Away
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In this episode Patrick and Andrew discuss the benefits of whole foods and the risks of ultra-processed food, how to raise physically healthy children, and how to stay healthy in an unhealthy society.
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Introduction to Copybook Headings Podcast
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and the brave new world begins when all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins as surely as water will wet us as surely as fire will burn the gods of the coffee book headings with terror and slaughter return
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Hello, everybody, and thank you for joining us for another episode of the Copybook Headings podcast. If you're a new listener, just joining us for the first time. This show is inspired by the poem by Rudyard Kipling called The Gods of the Copybook Headings. And every week we take an old saying, proverb, or maxim, and we break it down to see what we can learn from it and see if there's still any old ancient wisdom that's relevant today from these old sayings and proverbs, which is what Rudyard Kipling called the copybook headings. That's where that what's what those are. It's old sayings.
Hosts' Personal Updates
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I am your host Patrick Payne, and with me, as always, is my co-host Andrew Stevens. Andrew, how are you, man? Hey, I'm doing all right. How are you? Doing good. Doing good. Just ah you know working.
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Lots of work. How about you? Yeah. A bit of work. and just A bit of, you know, we had like a nice week of of the kids sleeping in nicely in the past couple of days has not been that. So yeah, I'm a little, I'm a little tired, but yeah, but it's been good. The weather's been nice. It's cooled off a little bit. I love it. Fall is in the air. Yeah, it is. It really is. My favorite season is almost upon us. Yeah.
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um Yeah, the kids don't sleep in anymore now that it's school I mean they do sleep in now before in the summer. There was always up early enough schools here They're they don't want to get out of bed, of course hu Do you guys have plans for the long weekend Um, no, no, I, I think we, we often will just, we come up on these holiday weekends and and don't even realize it. I think, I think we're going to be doing some painting actually is what we'll be doing. We're kind of sprucing up the living room and that's one of the things we're doing is some painting. So I think I'll be, I'll be enlisted in that, I think.
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Yeah, for sure. I think we might do some spelunking. There's some caves around here where we might go take. Oh, or very nice. ah should be That's really cool. Yeah. um So yeah, should be a good time. ah We got a good copybook heading, a good uh, saying forever this week. Classic.
Exploring 'An Apple a Day' Saying
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Yeah. Yeah. This is one everyone probably knows. This is one I selected. Um, and I, uh, yeah, so it's an apple a day keeps the doctor away. That's one probably everyone's heard very, very common, very, very popular. And I think today is relevant as ever. Um, what'd you think of it when I, when I threw it your way?
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um you know ah first thought was oh man i need to eat better but no yeah it's uh yeah it's it's a great one it's it's probably one of the most famous, you know, it's it's it's right up there of of ones we've covered. Everyone knows this one and everyone knows it's true to some extent, I think. And um also i I love apples. I grew up in Washington and in Apple, the Apple capital and I'm ah an Apple aficionado. Nice. So yeah. What's your favorite kind of Apple? I have to ask before we move on.
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Oh, um right now I'm digging the NVs. They're really good. NVs, huh? Okay. I have to try them. The reason I thought of this one is because my wife made like tons and tons of applesauce today from fresh apples. Oh, nice. So that's what made me think of it. And I was like, oh, perfect. ah But ah we had a neighbor, I guess, who had this apple tree that was producing like crazy. I mean, just hundreds and hundreds of apples. They picked as many as they could carry and they were still, I mean, they didn't put a dent in this tree.
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yeah And so, but we, she took a bite, we took a bite of these apples and they were disgusting. They were just like mushy and like tart and like not a good eating apple, you know, but it made really, really good apple sauce. So yes we had apple sauce today. Yeah. I, uh, I knew someone ah from my, from my missionary times, uh, as a young man, uh, one of the other guys,
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his family had like a ah big apple orchard and that that was their business and I got to learn the ins and outs of like, you know, the the really the nice apples off the tree get get eaten and the ones that that fall down get turned into applesauce or apple juice. So yeah, yeah that it's usually not the the prime ones, but it turns out to make really good applesauce. So all right.
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Yeah. So apples, I like apples too. There's not my favorite fruit of all time, but I, I, I like apples. I like fresh fruit, generally speaking. And I've been, my wife and I have been kind of on a trying to get improve our diet and our health as well. Um, so I feel, I feel like a lot of people are in that boat. A lot of ah Americans are thinking, I should eat better. Like your first reaction was I should eat better. So the first thing I want to do before we kind of delve into you know, the benefits of eating healthy and all this stuff.
Processed Foods and Modern Diets
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And I have a few talking points I want to go over, but before we delve into it, I want to like just say there's so much processed food nowadays and chemicals and preservatives, which I mean, I'll detail some of this stuff. I just want to give people like permission to not feel guilty if they're not eating as healthy as they can, because part of it is not your fault. Like if there is bad food everywhere around us and it's extremely hard to avoid all the time.
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And then when you eat a little bit of it, as I can, you know, I've got, we can talk about later, there's like these processed foods have kind of an addictive chemical or an addictive property to them, right? With all these chemicals that can make it hard to hard to stop. so So as we talk about this, don't beat yourself up too bad. All of us are on the same boat where we have the standard American diet. The trick is, I'm trying to break free from that a little bit. So anyway, um go ahead. Were you gonna say something?
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No, I think, I think you're right on, uh, you know, kind of our, our society's built around convenience and we're all pretty busy. And a part of that has, you know, and that has migrated into the, into the food and the way the culture around food. And yep so we love our prepackaged stuff cause it's, it's easy, it's fast. Um, and it's hard to, to break away with from that. And it's hard to, it's even hard to make a nice,
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You know, a full meal from scratch just takes a a lot more time than the alternative and it's when people are busy. um We tend to at least, you know, even part of it is like,
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You know, even if you're making your own pasta or something, you're still using the, you're still getting a jar of spaghetti sauce that you didn't make yourself because like so as you write, like with the, the applesauce endeavor that takes all day he does used to to do all that same with like making sauce at summertime, heating up the kitchen, like just a lot of work.
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It is. yeah and and Quite a few apples boil down to not as much applesauce as you'd think. like It goes down quite a bit. so so We have a lot of applesauce, but it was a ton of apples to begin with. um yeah so um i think I think you're 100% right. I think it's really important. you know i We kind of experimented with a few different diets. like We went vegetarian-ish for a while. We did some other things. and and um ah What I've kind of noticed is it doesn't really seem to matter so much which diet people pick. What matters is they're intentional about about it. And when people start getting intentional and say, hey, I'm just not going to eat these things anymore or I'm going to steer clear of that and I'm going to steer towards this other thing. um When people who are intentional about their diet tend to do tend to do better and be healthier than people who are just kind of
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um not thinking about it so much and eating what's around them because um what's around us is generally not good. um There's quite a few food, chemicals, whatever you wanna call them, things in our food that are illegal in other countries. Yeah.
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and and And they're okay here, I guess. A lot of countries in Europe or other places will be like, yeah, this one's just no good. But like i I don't know. I guess our government is more dysfunctional or we have more powerful food lobbies or something. I don't know. But there's a lot of stuff here that other places aren't you know don't eat.
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Yeah, I think about that a lot. I think, oh man, I i should move to Europe just so that you know when I am lazy about food, at least the bare minimum is better there than it is here. Yeah, totally.
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Yeah, so the I mean, like you mentioned, making everything from scratch is is extremely difficult. um You don't have to do that. I think um one step in the right direction for a lot of folks is maybe just starting to, when you pick up food at the grocery store, just read the label. um that That I think is a good first step because if you start seeing a bunch of stuff that you can't pronounce and you don't know what it is,
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That's generally an indication that it's maybe not great for you. And so steer towards the stuff that has fewer ingredients and stuff that you know, you know what it is. You know what I mean? um So that that's ah that's a good first step, I think. Yeah, I've i've wondered about is I've also thought about doing this little experiment. You know, there's there's really a handful of major companies that kind of make most of the food and the packaged food that you get. um And I would thought, oh, you know, what if if I i'd go to the grocery store and I avoid these major companies like there's a lot of there's a lot of smaller ones here and there that fill in various, you know, place various parts of the aisle at the grocery store. And if I only did those, you know, I wonder
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if I'd see ah a better result, if if things would be a little better, like fewer ingredients, more things that you can actually pronounce, things like that, just yeah less filler and things. So it's ah maybe i'll I'll try that experiment out this fall, we'll see.
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Yeah, you should, yeah, and let us know how it goes. um yeah ah Yeah, it's it's crazy. and If you look at like just the health of of general health of Americans, it's it's declined, and it correlates really strongly with kind of um the rise of this ultra-processed food. I mean, chronic disease used to be a rare thing. like almost non-existent in children, very small percent of adults. Now it's almost most adults have some sort of chronic disease, including diabetes or something like that. And it's like, I think a quarter of children have some sort of chronic disease. um So because of that, it's not um it's it would be very
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rare, very uncommon, very unusual for that to just happen on its own and ah in a general population of people. So typically when you see changes that stark and drastic, they look, it's and it's environmental. It's something in the environment that's causing that. um It's not that all Americans just decided to lose their willpower, you know, and they'd start eating crap all of a sudden. like That's just unre unreasonable to think that. um So I really do think that there's something in our food that's worse now than it was 50 years ago.
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i I could certainly believe that. i think Although I do think that there is something um more cultural or perhaps you could even say spiritual with like people's you know willpower and and um you know wanting more luxury and things like that. i don't know yeah um I don't know if luxury is the right word when it comes to like food, but you know the like convenience like the door dash generation kind of thing Yeah, there's i mean yeah that but also you know just the the high sugar and high fat that is just really good like it tastes really good and and it's available everywhere all the time and for fairly cheap and so it is If you really like that, it's kind of hard to hard to resist um But I think there is some
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I don't want to, I don't want to remove all completely remove agency from people. I do agree with that. There's a bunch of junk in the food and, uh, that, that makes us going back, but it keeps us going back. But I think there's, there's something that we need to get a hold of, get a hold on, uh, a handle on ourselves, at least for sure. I think that for me, for, for example, but.
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Yeah, ultimately what goes in your mouth is your responsibility. ah That being said, if if you're surrounded by healthy food versus surrounded by junk, it's it's just it's it's it's easier to make bad choices when it's when it's everywhere. um and And a lot of these ultra-processed foods have been are kind of like engineered these days um and engineered to um suppress like satiety so that you don't feel satiated when you eat these foods so you want to keep eating them. and That's been documented that they do that on purpose. um And to make them more, you know, like you want to keep eating them. Have you ever seen that movie, ah So I Married an Axe Murderer?
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Yes. Mike Myers. An old favorite when I was when i was younger, yes. It's a great one. It's great. So he has this crazy dad in that movie that's played by himself. like Mike Myers plays the main character and his dad. And he's this crazy like Scottish guy who's a super like big conspiracy theorist, crazy nut dude, which is hilarious. But like he has this moment where he talks starts going off about Colonel Sanders and his son, Mike Myers, the main character's like, what are you talking about? How does anyone hate hey Colonel Sanders?
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And he's like, because he puts an addictive chemical in his chicken that makes you crave it for nightly. And it's a great line from the movie. And got a big laugh, whatever. And now I'm like looking at this stuff. I'm like, Charlie's crazy dad from that movie was not that far off base. They put addictive chemicals in their chicken to make you crave it. It's true. So there so there you go. Next time you watch that movie,
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maybe gives a little bit of respect to that old, that old coot. Yeah. the Getting all his news from the National Enquirer and New World News and all that, yeah. Yeah, that was great. um Yeah, so, but but like even, I recently saw a thing about ah what's in McDonald's French fries now versus what was in McDonald's French fries in the 1970s, for example.
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like There's way more chemicals in them now than there used to be. They used to just mainly be potatoes and oil and no salt or whatever. There's a bunch of stuff you can't pronounce in there now. and They're the same thing. so Even back in the day, you know oh, I'm going to get a burger and fries and a Coke. It's like, okay, that's not really good for you, but it wasn't as ultra processed then as it is now. Yeah. I'm sure you've seen the meme floating around about hamburgers, for example, being like,
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really a really good meal. Ultimately, like you break down all the ingredients of like a fresh hamburger. It's like really great. you know We think of it as junk food, but it kind of has become that right with yeah with the way that it's it's made at most places, but like go to a nice restaurant and you get a hamburger like that is a pretty healthy meal, ultimately. Yeah, if you had good grass-fed beef and, you know, like a- Vegetables and fresh cheese. Some vegetables. Yeah, fresh cheese and so like homemade bread on it or bun. mean no That would actually be a pretty good meal. Yeah, you're right. It's a a lot of the processed, the way it's prepared and and done as cheaply as possible, cranked out for mass production. um I've even heard recently that there was a there's a link between
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um a lot of these tobacco executives and the food industry, and that many of them came over when tobacco was starting to get hit by regulations. yeah And the same concept of we have to you know make this as as habit-forming as possible, kind of kind of bled over into into the food industry, which is pretty pretty surprising.
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um But i wanted to I wanted to mention something about the the actual saying itself, ah um the literal aspect of it, which is just an apple. Yeah, I honestly think is very actually fairly good advice. um An apple a day keeps the doctor away. You know, we talk about like, oh, it's easier to take pre-packaged stuff. An apple is kind of pre-packaged. Like, it's kind of just on its own. Like, it it carries well. it It transports well. You can just take take an apple with you.
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And I think if you really did eat one apple per day, ah the the increase in the the vitamins, the fiber, all that stuff i would actually be fairly good for you. Yeah, absolutely.
Apples vs. Statins Study
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um yeah And and this you know this proverb has ah its own like Wikipedia article. It's it's that famous. yeah and And this comes from you know the 19th century um from England and and I don't know that it's, I don't know if we have who said it, but it comes from a certain place in England in 1866. The original was, eat an apple on going to bed and you'll keep the doctor from earning his bread. And then it was changed to to the way we know it. And in this article, it has a cool thing, a little bit about some studies they've done on it. And this one is just a ah computer modeling thing. So it's, you know, and
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take it with a grain of salt, but they were, they were positing that an apple a day had the same effect as for lowering cholesterol as taking a statin drug. Like that was, that was the result they came up with. That's wild. And, and I don't know if that's been, I don't know if that's been proven in, in real people, but, but that was, um, what they came up with this in this computer model. But I mean, I believe it. And I think, um,
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The other part, the other thing I jumped to when I think of this because of the industry I work in, which is pharmaceuticals and medical devices, is how, um I guess, over-medicated we are in that ah if we change some things about our lifestyles, we wouldn't need as many medications. I'm not saying people are taking completely unnecessary things, that they don't have these problems.
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but that the problems could be solved in other ways or at least prevented so that these drugs aren't necessary, you know? And so if a diet change, which if it were, you know, if it were as simple as an apple a day for cholesterol, I mean, who right kind of crazy not to not to just do the apples with the considering the side effects of of some of these drugs and things. Yeah, I think about that. Go ahead.
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Oh yeah, I was just going to say I found kind of the same thing on on it. ah It was actually, I found that it was ah in a Welsh magazine in 1866, Notes and Queries. It was the name of the magazine. Oh, okay. ah Eat an apple. I'm going to bed, yeah. Apologies to Wills. Apologies. I said England. Yeah. I'll never forgive you.
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um yeah but you know No, 100%. I've worked in the medical industry and the one thing I can say is you want to stay out of that industry as much as you can. You don't want to get put on that system of they're giving you pills and then you're taking them all the time and whatever you can do to stay out off that path,
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because that, the one, it'll send you to the poor house. I mean, you'll just be in there all the time and you know maxing out your and insurance deductibles and to be expensive, at least in this country. But two, yeah, I mean, you're you're heading towards an early grave if you're doing that. And and and man, just these comorbidities, you see, with this complication causing complications with that, causing complications with this. And then when you start seeing the benefits of like just ah kind of a whole foods diet,
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and how it helps with every single one of those biomarkers that's the bad for us. Man, it's hard to to to not just be like, yeah, I need to just keep a big pile of apples in my house nearby and just start munching on them when I'm hungry because, yeah, you know what what do you got to lose? Yeah. I think I saw someone say the other day,
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um completely unrelated to this, but it was basically, you you never see anyone get fat eating apples, like just only apples, right? Like yes when eating, you know, just natural foods, basically, I mean, is is the, the essential, at the gist of that um quip that they made, that if you, yeah, it really is the the process stuff that really gets us for sure. I think it's nearly impossible. I think it would be near, I mean, if you ate, you know, whole milk, drank whole milk and maybe had some homemade ice cream, you could probably pick a pack on a few pounds. But um if you're eating just whole food, I think it would be nearly impossible to be obese, to be like have one of these real big weight problems that so many Americans now do. I think you basically have to have processed food for that to happen.
00:22:25
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um ah So yeah, 100%. and um ah you not just So I've heard some people, even health people say, you know oh, you don't eat too much fruit because they're concerned about you know the fructose, the sugar, that sort of thing. sure um um' I don't believe in that. i i I'm not convinced that fruit is bad for you and you'll never convince me. like um um And backing that up is kind of just this ah this the science in that the fiber in the fruit is what's, yeah ah it can like blunt and like an insulin response. So you don't want your insulin to run run away with that. It's kind of what leads to diabetes and that sort of stuff. So um that's why an apple is so much healthier for you than a glass of apple juice. Like it's not close. Even though they're basically the same thing, even fresh squeezed apple juice is not nearly as good for you as a regular apple. Yeah, that's a good point. that's um
00:23:26
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with a lot of these things there, they're balanced so that, you know, everything in there plays a, plays a part in in your digestion and your absorption of the nutrients. Like you strip some of that away and you're, you turned it into junk food. Yeah, totally. And, um, one other thing fiber does is it, it helps, uh, it helps with your, um,
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ah hunger cues. It helps get rid of those hunger cues. Whereas if you're just, yeah you can have the same amount of calories in apple juice as with an apple, eating an apple, and you're going to still feel more hungry after drinking the juice versus the apple because the the fiber helps with that.
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So if you're feeling hungry all the time, maybe you're trying to eat healthier and you're like, man, I shouldn't have that donut or shouldn't have that, you know, whatever, but I'm i'm just hungry. Like try, literally try eating an apple and, and, and just tell yourself, okay, maybe I'll have that but donut after my apple. I'll, I'll eat, fifteen I'll eat it, wait 15 minutes and then see if I still want the donut. Maybe try that. Yeah. That's great. ah Great advice. Um,
00:24:32
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Now, when it comes to the flip side, when it comes to the gods of the marketplace and um right the the the way that society values this one, you know the thing that comes to mind for me, especially when we're talking about like pharmaceuticals and things, is that the latest wave the latest trend of, um, these weight loss drugs, right? The, the samaglitide, um, all, all those, all those drugs, um, that seem to work pretty well for a lot of people for, for losing weight, which can, can lead to health problems on its own and having carrying around a lot of extra weight. Um, but also, you know, they're pretty new and I, I always wonder about new drug classes that, um,
00:25:21
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what kind of kind of side effects and and just also the, I mean, I'm inclined to be, oh, I don't like shortcuts. You know, that seems like a pretty big shortcut. Like there's got to be like some, some spiritual aspect of it for me, right? Like, oh, you can't shortcut that kind of thing. That's involved with willpower. And so I don't know. What do you think about, um, You know, the shortcuts when it comes, I mean, we love convenience in our society and this seems like a convenient way to um to lose weight anyway, but is it making us healthier?
00:25:54
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Like the Ozempic and all that kind of stuff? Yep. Yep. I don't know enough about it. I'm not you know um i'm not a ah doctor or an expert on any of that kind of stuff. From what I ah basically have seen, I mean, generally speaking, I think you ah want for my life, I want to try to stay off pharmaceuticals if I can. um So if there's a way to do it without that, I would look to that first.
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it It may
Natural Health Methods vs. Pharmaceuticals
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be okay. Maybe it's healthy. There's no drug that doesn't have some side effect, but the side effects are very mild or they don't affect you specifically because they can vary by person to person if they don't affect you very severely. um Maybe something like that can really help jumpstart someone who's really gone off really far down. you know If you're so overweight that you have a hard time walking because it's bad on your knees, that could be really hard to, you know to maybe something like that could jumpstart them and help them. I don't know.
00:26:49
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But yeah, I think the best way to do it is to try to do it naturally. and but kind of you know my My wife sent me this when I told her I was gonna i was going to talk about this tonight. She sent me this like meme or something that shows two Like side-by-side images from like Major newspapers or or magazines one from like the 50s or something to one from now one says from back in the day more doctors smoke camels than any other cigarette um This is on the cover of some magazine and another one said for digestion sake smoke camels so I guess they were supposed to say they were aiding in digestion and And then, next to it is an article from Time Magazine that says, what if ultra-processed foods aren't as bad as you think? By Jamie Ducharm. I'm like, what? like so like I don't know what what's going on here, who's funding these these articles, but yeah. I think ultra-processed foods are as bad as we think. Yeah, we like to think
00:27:59
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You know, that kind of fallacy of of progress, right, that that everyone in the past was wrong and we're correct about everything, but everyone has always thought that. And so you look back and it seems silly that doctors are recommending cigarettes and then.
00:28:14
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You look at what doctors recommend now and think, well, they know what they're talking about now. yeah In years, it'll seem just as ridiculous. I think in 50 years, it's going to be ridiculous that many, if not most medical programs, like to get a an MD and go through medical school, you're not required to take a diet class. You're not required to take a nutrition class.
00:28:37
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So when you ask your doctor about your diet, understand they may not actually know anything because they're not required to take that class. They're required to learn all about drugs. They're required to learn about you know how drugs interact with other drugs. And ah yeah you know are they contraindicated with this one and that one? They learn a lot about pharmaceuticals. If they're a surgeon, they're going to learn a lot about that. they're you know They don't know much about nutrition, sadly. Yeah.
00:29:06
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So going back to your original point, it's on us. We have to take responsibility for our own bodies and our own health. um And yeah, I mean, this is not bad advice. This is solid. I mean, start with just having a piece of fruit. Try to get a little more natural foods in your diet. And I think that's that's a good place to start. And yeah, and reading the labels um on foods that you eat. And if you can't pronounce it, maybe try to find ones you can. Yeah.
00:29:37
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Um, I guess I don't, we don't have a ton of time left, but I do want to ask, um, you know, we, we talk a lot about the next generation and and what we try and do to help our kids with, with these principles we talk about.
Protecting Children from Unhealthy Foods
00:29:49
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And you, you're very passionate about this. Uh, we can all tell what do you do for your kids? What do you do in your family? Uh, nutrition wise, uh, fitness wise that, um, to, to set them up for success.
00:30:06
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Uh man Keeping stuff out of the house. It's it's really hard for them to eat an apple when there's a when there are graham crackers, you know yeah um Or something like that. So it's extremely hard for kids to uh You really have to kind of protect them from from from this and and and it is I think it's important to view it like that, to view it as protection. You know you wouldn't let your kids do drugs, you wouldn't let your kids you know access pornography or or bad language or lost you other stuff. so So you have to meet your responsibility as a parent to to to kind of shield them from some of this bad stuff. And some of this may be, you know think about it, think about the company that made this and maybe they're they're not focusing on the health of your child.
00:30:51
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They don't care about your child like you do. They're focusing on making a profit. They're focusing on beating the competition and selling selling more or cookie crisp cereal or whatever than the next cereal. So yeah, I would i would say um ah protect your kids. keep and Keep all of that in mind as you're as you're shopping and try to keep healthy food in the house for them.
00:31:16
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Yeah, absolutely. i think that's ah I think that's great advice and ah we're we're not the best about it, so it's ah something to aspire to and try and implement ourselves.
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Yeah, like I said at the beginning everyone could get better at it and don't beat yourselves up about it just I think we can all make some make some improvements and try to keep some healthy food in the house and and Yeah, maybe maybe set a goal to keep keep some more fruit in the house some more vegetables in the house Maybe there's something in the house that you know, you shouldn't have in there It's just like trying to eliminate one thing, you know It's like we really shouldn't have this in here at all. Let me try to eliminate one thing or replace it with something a little better but but Yeah, run run past the snacks section by the checkout at at Costco. Just run past it. Dude, that place is bad. It's dangerous. Those are all very tasty. It's rough. All right, well, thanks, everybody, for listening. And we will see you guys all next week. All right, we'll see you. Bye. There are only four things certain since social progress
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that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins, when all men are paid for existing, and no man must pay for his sin, as surely as water will wet us, as surely as fire will burn, the gods of the copy of hideous, with terrors,