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The Boy Mom Really Is Back in Town
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Rena and Paige are now in the same city, but haven't figured out how to record together yet. They discuss the differences between LA and NYC for the very last time, how obsessed libraries and co-ops are with physical cards, and Rena's latest fears.
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things to say.
Weather Surprises in Los Angeles
00:00:09
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It's over. I've been to the end of my tape. There's nothing else for me to I think you have a lot to say because you are now back in Los Angeles.
00:00:23
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Here I am in sunny l a Except that it's been cloudy every day.
Unpacking and Adjusting to a New Home
00:00:31
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Yes, here, but i but like mentally I'm somewhere off in the clouds. We're still unpacking, so it's like...
00:00:37
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We're not fully here, I'd say. But I am here, physically. You've made progress. Yeah. I think. yeah i yeah you could ah We put up a mirror.
00:00:49
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um There's still lots of boxes you can see. Our living room was pretty complete. I mean, not going to show all that our TV is way too big, but somebody gave it to us. So that's our TV now.
Nostalgia for Daytime TV Shows
00:01:05
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You need to get a projector screen. but hot But then we can only watch, well, we'd have to get like blackout curtains, I guess. But you can't watch in the sunshine.
00:01:16
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Why are you watching TV during the day? What kind of... Because I'm depressed. I'm wrong with you. Ever heard of daytime television? Yes, that's why it has associations with being sad and lonely and a loser.
00:01:34
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i mean, were those not the best days, though, like when you would be sick home from school and you could finally like catch up on General Hospital? Or did you do that? No. you know You know what I was thinking of recently, though, is when I was like...
00:01:47
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10 or so. And I would watch because all that was on TV during the day, even in the summer on like Nickelodeon, was like Nick Jr. So I would watch these shows that were way too young for me because that was all that was on.
00:02:03
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I would be watching like Blue's Clues and like Franklin or Little Bear. Yeah. It's so funny. mean It's like opposite experience. I was like watching people being like, your brother's baby is really mine. like No, and I was like, okay. Wait, so that you only had one. What? Why were you stuck with only one channel? What happened to the other channel? I only had Nickelodeon. No, I just went when I was like, so I was like 10. Yeah.
00:02:37
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And it was either – like I was waiting – I was waiting it for for it to be 2 o'clock so I could watch like step by step and then full house. But in the mornings in the mornings, it was just like the news. I mean, eventually I got into like The View.
00:02:54
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The View. Which is incredible, obviously. That was a great show. Is it still on? Yeah, it's still on, right? I mean, I watched it when it was like – I mean, Joy Behar is probably still on The View, right i think so. haven't heard about her doing anything else. i mean It was like her and Elizabeth Hasselbeck and... ah well i watched it in the... Was it Rosie? Yeah, Rosie. I watched the Rosie era, but she wasn't on there for very long, was she? um Yeah, Rosie. well what happened? She had her own talk show for a second, right? Or is that before your time?
00:03:35
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It is before my time. Yeah. Yes. But then she joined the view. But wasn't she didn't she like not last very long on the view? She was. Yeah, everyone got mad. Well, her and Hasselbeck like really. Yeah. If memory serves me correctly, it was a tense time. Not unlike this time. It's the same type of tensions.
00:03:58
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But her and Hasselbeck really seem to like actually beef with each other. i think. And it was like it got too personal. um and But that's what that's why you watch the show. It it was kind of like the original. That's what made it good. Yeah. I think that's when the view was like in its prime.
00:04:18
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Yes. It was incredible. Okay. So how is it how is it being back?
Settling into Life in Griffith Park
00:04:25
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How has the park been? It's been good. As you know, we have only gone a couple of times. um I'm trying to think.
00:04:33
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I mean, it's been this it's been much more relaxed. I mean, much less populated, cleaner. um Just like very quiet.
00:04:45
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I mean, the playground we used to go to in Brooklyn was like on a busy street. So it was literally like always trucks and fire trucks and cars and honking and just like nonstop noise. Sometimes there was even construction going on, like on the sidewalk next to the playground.
00:05:06
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um there'd be like trucks and digging and breaking cement. So I mean, like, yeah, up in Griffith Park where you just hear the birds tweeting and it's definitely a different experience. I've taught my kids.
00:05:21
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I'll go. i i always have I have a question. um Do you think like having so much noise surrounding the playground in New York, do you think there's an effect of like,
00:05:35
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When your kid has a meltdown or if something dramatic happens with the other kids at the park, it seems like less of a big deal or less dramatic or less loud because of all of the noise?
00:05:47
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Like, do you find that... some You think it's worse? it's the opposite Yeah, because you're already your noise cup is already three quarters full. And then your kid has meltdown. You're like, ah, like you're just totally i mean, I'm just talking. up um It's more about me than him. Like but my experience of it is like it's definitely worse for me because.
00:06:08
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So you're overstimulated. Yes. And then there's all these competing sounds. and competing obstacles to getting home. Like there's all these people and cars and things in the way like to to get him anywhere like and yeah, it's loud and and there's constantly parents going in and out of the playground. And like it's just yeah, no, it's definitely worse, um although it is easier to get home. I mean, it was four blocks from our front door, the playground. So it was like.
00:06:40
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I knew I could just carry him, like run all the way home carrying him. Right. It didn't seem so daunting to leave. it wasn't so daunting, but I'd go by like an outdoor train, know, like it was just loud and like lots of people trying to on. But he also he enjoyed the outdoor train though, right? Like, He loved the train and the fire truck. And yeah, I mean, like he definitely enjoyed that stuff. And I do think like he had lots of opportunities to socialize with lots of different people all the time, which was cool.
00:07:12
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um because he loves talking to people. So that aspect was good. But I think it's going be better here because it'll be more familiar faces, like, and more people with their parents. Like in New York, it was just, it was with the nannies. And so, which is fine, but um there's kind of less familiarity between, let's say, me and a nanny or like,
00:07:39
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me and a parent. So it's like, I think that ends up bleeding out into the kids. yeah You know, like the kids are less familiar with each other because, because that it you know, it's just because the nannies kind of had their own crew. They they weren't really interested in being a friend So like, they weren't friendly. mean that's well that's ultimately why you came back because you just simply could not penetrate.
Comparing Living Spaces and Decisions to Move
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Yeah.
00:08:00
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the group you know you've won the reason i mean i think the weather was a huge factor but um and just quality of life i mean our place here feels gigantic now in comparison to the place we had in new york like it just feels so huge it feels huge right it's definitely the biggest place we've ever had is that like set what do you think 800 square feet It's big.
00:08:27
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I have no idea. I'm so bad at square footage. I think, I don't know. How do you multiply? is it Do you multiply the length of the room by the width? And that's how you get square footage? How does it work? they you have to do it's like every Yeah, every room. feels similar.
00:08:44
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I think yours is about the same. It feels similar. so it feels ah similar i think yours is about the same I think so.
00:08:56
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It's just different layouts. So it's like hard to, yeah. I don't know, but the bathroom feels so roomy. There's like room in the bath, like the toilet. hair do you know make call again Yeah. so small. The bathroom was small. I mean, everything was small, but we had that cool like sunroom in New York, which was very pretty.
00:09:18
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um There was just never any sun shining into the There was never a sun, but there was a big, beautiful tree growing in Brooklyn, like the book. um I mean, our neighborhood was very picturesque, but it was, I don't know. It just didn't feel, the vibes were off.
00:09:37
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I'm not sure why. um Did it feel like you weren't supposed to be there? I mean, I definitely was confused. Now I don't feel like I'm supposed to be anywhere. I mean, honestly, like I kind of feel a lot in my life like I was supposed to die a long time ago, but that's separate issue.
00:09:56
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<unk>s I mean, like, you know, I took a lot of antibiotics as a kid. I'll say that.
Reflecting on New York Experiences and Fate
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but um Yeah, you're barely hanging on. I don't know. i don't think I'm supposed to be here, but here I am. um But ah no, i I definitely was like, why are we supposed to be here? I kind of decided in my head that it's just part of my child's fate that he was meant to spend that time in New York and it just like wasn't about us.
00:10:22
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And I don't know why yet, but we'll we'll know like in retrospect someday. i mean, we made some friends there. Honestly, i have no idea. i think him he seems confident. Like he seems more confident.
00:10:36
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For sure. I mean, like, yeah. And he has to be able to just like, It might be. Yeah. I mean, he had to like everything changed up on him out of nowhere. And then suddenly it was like all new kids and new kids almost every day. i mean, that was one of the positives about Brooklyn was like there's just always kids to play with and like different kids. And you just play with whoever's there and it's fun, you know? Right. And in a way...
00:11:03
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it can be It can be hard if he plays really well with someone and then you're like, well, he's never going to see them again. And that's kind of sad. but then there's But then there's a benefit of like, well, you're not going to like if something happens or you don't have to like feel.
00:11:18
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um i don't like you need to be more careful because like, yeah, because it's like you're never going to see these people again. Like if if something happens with a fight over a toy or whatever, it's like not as big of a deal. Right.
00:11:33
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right that's right there's more anonymity and there's also less people are just paying less attention to you in new york because they're seeing people all the time i mean that's just where as a person they're like yeah you can just feel a little freer in that sense there were neighborhood kids that we did get to know and neighborhood parents um so i mean there would be familiar faces sometimes but um yeah i don't know there wasn't really any try everyone was just like doing their own thing and and and So there was less pressure. And that part that part sounds nice.
00:12:04
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you You feel pressure here?
Social Dynamics in Los Angeles
00:12:06
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Yeah. I mean, when you see, you know, you, you I mean, it's good. Like, you're supposed to feel obligated toward other people. Like, I think that's what keeps society cohesive, right? But it does add, it does add pressure. Yeah, you can get more in your head about interactions with people here because you just have less of them.
00:12:28
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I mean, it makes sense. But then again, like I had that interaction with the librarian there and I would have seen her a lot. that probably I probably would have had to figure that out at some point. but Yeah, yeah. maybe not. But instead you just fled.
00:12:41
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i mean, okay, no, we're let's just keep saying this throughout the episode. I think that's the real reason you left. That librarian. The librarian. The librarian. i mean that's I mean, librarian's a very important figure in your life when you have a young child. like No, no, that's why it's really crucial. Like, we're so lucky.
00:13:01
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Like, the librarian, the children's librarian at our local library is everything to us. She's a celebrity. She's... And if she weren't a nice person, we would be screwed.
00:13:13
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Well, this is okay. But the the actual main children's librarian there, I got along with, well, this was a different, this was just someone at the front desk. Oh, yeah. Not even a librarian. Not even a librarian, right? Just like a low-leaf checkout. Well, I don't know what she a degree in.
00:13:29
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I don't know, you know, like. They're the people who just work at the library and it's like a job. And a lot of times there's like higher turnover or there are like the librarians who have like a master's degree in library science, library science. Yeah, I mean, i library science. Yes. I don't know like...
00:13:50
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what the competitive level is in New York for getting a job at the library. Like, I don't know the qualifications there. I know here you can be- just saying any freak loser off the street can get the job. and All right? So you don't know what you're going to get. And they at this library, those people i mean.
00:14:07
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Can I tell you
Library and Co-op Membership Challenges
00:14:08
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something? Here, let me just- What? What? Oh, here we go ever like Every person who works at the library here, other than the actual librarians, is like so mean.
00:14:24
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And it's because just any any any jerk off the street can get a job there. Yes, no matter what, if I don't have my library card, I will hear about it, okay? They will simply not let me not hear about it. Every every time I go there, oh, you don't have your card with you? Yeah, i guess. What's your phone number?
00:14:45
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know what? That would happen to me at the co-op, except they wouldn't let me have the deals if I didn't have my card. And I always would say like, I couldn't get stuff.
00:14:56
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I couldn't get the deals. Like we paid the money to be members of the co-op. And then of course I can't keep track of my card. I was keeping it in a certain jacket. And then certain point I didn't need that jacket or before the jacket, I never knew where it was.
00:15:11
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I found it in a shoe once. But ah they knew they knew they were like, oh, here's the woman who likes. Well, OK, here's actual story is I would go in all the time.
00:15:24
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I thought the membership was expensive. So i was like, we're not paying for that. You know, I'll just shop here sometimes. And there's like a cheaper grocery store down the road. But then there's like certain things that my kid likes there. So I would go pretty often.
00:15:38
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And the woman who is the cashier was like, you should get a membership here. You're here all the time. And I was like, yeah, but I feel like the second I get a membership, I'm never going to come here again. And it's just going be silly. And she's like, OK. And then but then I saw the membership was like actually pretty cheap. It was like twenty five dollars, you know, and you get all these deals at the co-op.
00:15:58
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Twenty five dollars. so we just How often? You get it back. No, it's just an investment in the co-op. Oh. And then there's like a one-time fee. Like maybe. Yeah. It was like way cheaper. I thought it was going be like $100 or something, you know? um So we got the membership. We got our cards.
00:16:17
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And I go in the next time and I'm like, look, I finally got the membership. She's like, all right, all right. And then ever ever almost every time after that, I was like, I forgot my card. Like I can't find my card.
00:16:29
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and And then I got a new card and then I lost that card. so it was all just, no, no. So that's that's the real reason you left New York. I kept being like, can I have a digital version of this card? Or why can't you look up your phone number?
00:16:47
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No, they wouldn't do it. You had to have the card. No, they wouldn't do it. yeah Did they say they did not have the technology to do that or was it just out of spite? Yeah, like they said that like the board really wants that, but it hasn't happened, you know, like um or something like that.
00:17:04
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Sometimes mean they take pity on me, I think. it' Well, if you own the co-op, that just doesn't seem fair. You literally have an ownership of the co-op. I know. i should you have your rights.
00:17:21
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ah Can't we cooperate and give Rina the deals? Give Rina the deals despite not having this stupid physical card? You're a you're a mom bumbling around. Oh, ah my child. oh Oh, yes. I never got the deals.
00:17:36
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And so I re relate about the card thing. They wouldn't lecture me, though. I just wouldn't get the deals. so I mean, a lecture would be worse. What's the difference? Library people. There's something about working in a library that gives library people an air of self-importance.
00:17:52
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or they will They will latch on any opportunity to talk down to a person. They will jump on it. I mean, see, but you say anybody off the street could get that job, but my confidence with jobs is so low. i I still feel like I couldn't get that job.
00:18:09
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I don't think they'd hire me for that job. They'd be like, she's a yapper. She doesn't belong here. we're not She's not good enough to put away books. Well, they are, yeah. they they All of the people who work there...
00:18:22
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seem very introverted. Like they would not be yapping. Like that's why they want to work in a library. They just want to quietly put away books. And the only words they speak to are the library is closing soon and ah your child is being really loud. Can you make it stop?
00:18:43
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Well, that's happened to me. I mean, I've definitely been like, not exactly fired, but like taken out of positions for talking too much. and Yeah, you would last a day at that library, and especially with the head librarian there.
00:18:59
Speaker
Oh yeah, right. Although I could see getting along with you. The head librarian? Yeah. Really? What is it? How so? I just feel like deep down she like respects if she knows that a person is actually smart, she respects them.
00:19:17
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Oh, that's a very backhanded way of letting me know you think I'm smart. Like deep, deep down. Like, you you know, it's it's there somewhere. Let's see. You got to reach real. Yeah, it's not always obvious.
00:19:35
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No, no. But that's by design. I mean, isn't it disappointing to constantly present your true intellect to people and for it to always go over their heads? I mean, you must have given up a long time ago.
00:19:48
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i feel like I gave up a long time ago on people. Did you not? Do feel the same way? and I just full of myself? I think the problem is I haven't given up on people and that I'm constantly disappointed by every interaction I have.
00:20:01
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Oh, yeah. No, I couldn't handle that anymore. At like young age, young age, stopped. I started being like, I'm just going to be like, nice jacket, you know. where Yeah, no, you're so good at that. That's why you get you get along with people, like, because you're so good at lowering yourself to their...
00:20:20
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To their level. I can't take I can't take the disappointment. And like, because I used to think, okay, it started off with me used, I used to think i would always go to C in my head, like ABC, right? So I would go A to C with my thoughts and assume people were following. And then at a certain point, I realized like, nobody's following.
00:20:43
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And i can't handle explaining a B, and C. Right. You don't want to have to explain B. um yeah I just don't want to even – no, I don't have the patience. So you just don't even – you stay at A. Do you just stay at A?
00:20:57
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I stay at A unless somebody is like A, C to me. Then I'll be like, oh, okay, fine. Then we can go that far. You know, like we might not get to But you let them initiate. Yeah.
00:21:09
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i If they initiate, then I'll be like, okay, and let's open the door to us talking about more than just jackets. unless Unless I'm in a scenario where I'm extremely like socially, um what's the word? like If I'm at a party and I'm like, I don't know how to talk to anyone and I get like frightened, then I might just start talking a lot.
00:21:36
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Oh, and then you just let your inhibitions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I might go like ACFM, you know, just da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
00:21:48
Speaker
We all knew that about the Spanish Inquisition, you know, or whatever. and but And then they'll just be like, ah yeah, you know, like I gotta go. And I'm like, I've turned off another one. go So sometimes if I get scared enough, I will talk too much. Yes.
00:22:05
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But generally I'll just panic into small talk, which I never used to be able to do. so yeah, I guess I figured out how to do that at a certain point. No, but that's why, that's and that's why you were able to do like the, i mean, I won't say the name of the group because, ah our yeah. listeners don't know what it is anyway, but our, like, local moms group that you were on the board of and you were able to, like, get along with them.
00:22:36
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I mean, I think I got along. You know, don't really know what was going on. They did Yes. See, that I'll never be able to internalize. i I don't know. Is that true? I don't know.
00:22:48
Speaker
i hope that's true. I don't see things that aren't true. Oh. Okay. Okay. I just wanted to put something on my resume because I'm like panicking about how I'll ever get a How is that going benefit you? I've never understood.
00:23:06
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Well, because when you're on the board of a nonprofit, it sounds – people don't always understand what that means, but it sounds – Right. They don't know that you just – you sent a couple – you posted a few things on social media. No, exactly.
00:23:19
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With the – what was the emoji that you kept posting at the end of every post? Like a heart and a smile or something. don't remember. I was trying to keep the tone light, you know, like, oh, yeah, this little – yes. Yes.
00:23:33
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yeah you know Okay, I'm in the Freemason Lodge. like i um No, I just, I wanted to put something on my resume, you know, and they said they were looking for a social media person. And that's like a job I probably couldn't do, but I might try to get at some point. know And they were like, you could be head of communications if you want. And I was like, no, no, no, no. They would have just made you president if you wanted to.
00:24:03
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Not president. No, that was that was a whole other situation. But no, I don't think I'd want to be president. No, I know you don't even want to, but I think they would have made you president.
00:24:15
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If I just said I wanted to. Yeah, I think there there might have been. See, this is the thing. This is where my like slightly not picking up on social cues thing worked out well for me because I think there was probably some kind of drama going on between other people that I was like adjacent to. but I like I couldn't detect the particulars of it.
00:24:39
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So I was just like, la la la la la la la la la la you know, like just on the board. Like, so that always works out well for me, I think, because I don't pick up on whatever's going on. So I just like coast.
00:24:53
Speaker
Right. the ten Next door. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just so you stay out of it and you don't even have to try. I don't even have to try it. There's nothing about it that that sticks out to me. I don't know. it's I don't know. I mean, like, I think this has happened to me in the comedy community too, like where there's like drama and I was just like, la, la, la ah la la la you know, even stuff that pertained to me. i mean, I think there's probably lots of people who don't like me that I just like, I'm just like, hey, you know, like don't pick up on it at all.
00:25:27
Speaker
oh Which is great. I don't want to know. That's kind of a blessing. i wish i I wish I didn't pick um pick up on everyone's like teeny tiny emotions.
00:25:39
Speaker
We'll see. But when people do like me, that's when I think they hate Like when people are my friend, like my close friends, that's when I'll be like, they don't like me. Like it's the they don't like for some reason. that?
00:25:53
Speaker
I don't know. i think maybe it's like disorganized attachment or something like where it's like if I'm getting close to someone, I'm like, it's not like something's going to go wrong or like I'm going to do something wrong or and I'm not going to know, you know, or I think it's stuff from childhood.
00:26:10
Speaker
Really? Yeah. Yeah. yeah as i As usual, blame the mother. Yes, it's my mother's fault. But like if you had parents that and that like would be we're a kind of Jekyll and Hyde is what they call it, where it's like they're like friendly and loving sometimes and then totally not other times. Like that's what can get you because then you'll you'll always question if. Right, right.
00:26:38
Speaker
So in a way it can be a blessing if they're just never loving toward you. That's why I feel so comfortable with strangers. I mean, like, yeah, yeah. It's just there's no, I wonder if yeah there's no, like, I don't care either way. And so I don't need to stress out about it. And it gets worse, you know, the, obviously the deeper into my cycle I go. So I'm at the beginning of the dark side yet again.
00:27:02
Speaker
Oh, you are. Okay. Oh, okay. That makes sense. That's why I didn't see you in the afternoon yesterday. What did I do? oh yeah, yeah. No, i couldn't. I was too scared to see people. Yeah.
00:27:15
Speaker
I was like, where your your husband kept showing up in my house. And I was like, where is where my best friend? He's the social one. You know, like he's he has more social spoons. Like I'm too scared. Yeah. I'm too scared sometimes if he especially if he's around and I can make him do it, which like probably it would have been good for me to come and see you.
00:27:38
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but yeah But I hid in my. Yeah, it would have been. I mean, he told me I was like, tell me the entire interaction. So then he did. like and i just yeah i've just spent Yeah, I walked out of the room with like my child at my breast and I was like, oh, oh, a man. oh There's a man in my house. What is?
00:27:59
Speaker
I'm oh well. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah, I was hiding. I was putting... What I was doing is putting contact paper into this free... We got a free dresser that is just too... Disgusting. Oh, yeah, yeah. So i can't clean it. Yeah, yeah. So I'm putting contact paper over the entire thing.
00:28:21
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you were also putting up a mirror. Okay. What's the problem that you were putting up a mirror? And you were just like... I... i Just staring into the mirror for hours.
00:28:37
Speaker
Blue eyes. They're blue. They're blue. Blue. I've tried to figure out like what color exactly my eyes are. Have you ever taken a photo of your eyes and then like zoomed in, zoomed in?
00:28:51
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and then Oh, I did. Well, Mike and I did this. We took pictures of our eyes. This was probably 10 years ago and just like zoomed in on it and to see if we could tell the difference between our eyes. Yeah.
00:29:02
Speaker
And? Yeah. and And we it is it is hard to tell the difference. Mine are much more like teal. His are more like light blue. Yeah. but as His might be like mine since our ancestors probably were married. Well, I think his his are like yours because you're related. But ah like but he also people like don't know he has blue eyes. like They'll be like, oh, you don't have blue eyes. you don't and And he's like, yeah yes, I do. I do.
00:29:33
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That's like me. That's exactly what you did to before. They were brighter when they when he was younger, you know, when he still had, like, life in his eyes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Same. Life and light. Before all these antibiotics.
00:29:47
Speaker
Before, yeah, having a wife and children sucked all the light out of his eyes. No. Come on. It's true. I'm still scared about her coronavirus, by the way.
00:30:01
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oh God. Still scared. Is this what you're gonna bring up whenever there's a lull, whenever there's like just the slightest pause? Yes. Well, they're not they're not making everybody quarantine. It's scary.
00:30:16
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There's this guy in Arizona who's just like living his life. It was exposed. Well, I think I think we learned a lot from COVID. I feel very silly about a lot of COVID related antics.
00:30:29
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Wearing a mask, walking around, walking over the Shakespeare Bridge, wearing a mask like a freaking idiot. i used to spray. When my husband would come home from work, I would spray him.
00:30:42
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would spray him. But that is funny. That's worth it because it's funny. But I'd be like walking by people and be like, oh, oh. No, me too. I wore a mask. We probably walked by each other. we didn't know each other yet.
00:30:58
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I remember one guy early on in the pandemic, I was wearing a mask walking down the street and he was jogging and I was like a little bit scared and he like openly coughed on me.
00:31:10
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I was wearing a surgical. It wasn't even, it was like a cloth mask. It wouldn't have done anything. Did you, did you take a bra cup and make a mask out of it? Did you ever do that one? No, I never, it never got that far. And I was, I remember I was pregnant during like true True, COVID. That's scary.
00:31:27
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i Okay, but hentavirus is way worse than COVID, though. What happens? Okay, fine. ah You like, I don't want to tell you, actually. It's really depressing. i can handle it. I don't even want to say it.
00:31:40
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You end up choking on your own blood. Choking on your own You on your own blood. Oh, blood. Until you die. Terrifying.
00:31:52
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Like it's like 30 to 40% of people who get it with like choke on their own blood and die basically. Okay. I'm going to, I'm going to look into this. Where are you getting your information? oh No, I shouldn't. You know what? I shouldn't have brought it up.
00:32:05
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I don't know why I'm spreading fear. No, I don't, but I don't get scared is the thing. I don't, it's not going to, it's not going to do anything to me. Okay. So, okay. How do you do that? How do you not get scared?
00:32:19
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Teach me. Um, What's your strategy here?
00:32:27
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To not get scared of every little thing you hear. Yeah, because I do know a lot of people who get scared about everything that they hear about. Yes. That's just no way. I just, I try to recognize that that's just not a good way to live and that worrying about it doesn't make it not happen.
00:32:52
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Right. That's true. so then you're just wasting more portions of, like, time of your life is spent worrying about it. That's true. I mean, when I picture horrible things happening, sometimes I'm like, it's definitely not going to happen because...
00:33:09
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nothing happens exactly the way you predict it. Right. So if you think about it a lot, it's not going to happen. Yeah. Likely it is lower. And with COVID, I definitely was like, that's not going to happen. You know? So I was wrong there too.
00:33:23
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With like, I was like making Corona beer jokes on stage, like before lockdown. um well you Like you said, that's not going to happen as in,
00:33:36
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I was just like, we all scared about Corona beers or whatever stupid joke. Like, I definitely was like, there's not gonna be a pandemic. Are you insane? you know, so the fact that I'm scared now probably means it's not going to happen.
00:33:50
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Right. Because I'm probably wrong. The likelihood of me being wrong is high. But you also must have no OCD in your family. um i i think i'm ah I think I have anxiety about other things.
00:34:08
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i think I think that's – What's your most – Mine is just much more like smaller. Like I don't worry as much about things. Big picture. So what you get scared about – What's your scariest thing that scares you most often? because People are talking about me. Like that I've like said something – that um someone like told another person about, and then it comes back to me that it was being talked about. ah Yeah, that's scary.
00:34:39
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Horrible. I mean, and but at the yeah at your core, like that's like the worst thing. i feel like, like in the most primal way, being like excluded or the trans like the that's like death. the Exclusion is death.
00:34:56
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Yeah, yeah, like in our nervous system, that's what it feels like. Yeah, that's how we interpret it So it makes sense. It does make sense. It would also happen if you had a deadly virus.
00:35:10
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but The exclusion. But i no, but yeah, I think because we're all meant to operate in these like 100 person tribes or whatever. And like you need to be part of the tribe or you're just left in the wild, left to your own devices.
00:35:27
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But now our tribes are like. but in reality, there's like millions of people in L.A. And being excluded from one little social group won't won't really accept what it does to your nervous system. It will feel bad.
00:35:42
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Right. And if it just keeps happening over and over again, like every job I've ever had. Not every not every job. I did fine at Mervin's.
00:35:54
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Mervin's? Oh, yeah, Mervin's, of course. I did a lot better at my $7 an hour jobs than I did at my, ah you know, six figure. Well, the pressure, you right the pressure is so different.
00:36:07
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The more you get paid, the more important the job feels probably like. Right. So like that's all this pressure. Yeah, that's why those jobs just shouldn't pay as much. I wish they just didn't pay that much.
00:36:20
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Yeah, but then how would we survive? Well, I just wait they everything if they could just if if you could just get okay so like for TV writing, for example, if you could just if it If there were a system that would make it so you would just keep working, then you wouldn't have to make as much money to live off that money. Right, yeah.
00:36:39
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Yes, if this if studios just had like full-time writers that came with the studio. is that what you mean? And you just yeah always work. Yeah, which but there was a bit. that That was like a system in the old days, right? For like, I mean, or like actors had like their movie, their like long-term movie contracts back when like middle-class people could become actors.
00:37:01
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but i think it would be But I think it would be better for society and for culture and for the quality of television for tv writers to make less money so they wouldn't become multimillionaires and then lose touch with reality and bad at writing about it.
00:37:19
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I mean, is it them? I mean, I think it's also the development executives who are choosing the projects Oh, yeah, they definitely shouldn't make that much money.
00:37:30
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They do not do anything. but i know People don't do anything. Okay, what about this? I think it's more it's the other way around. I think people who work in retail should make a lot more.
00:37:42
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Everybody should make a lot more so that yeah and everybody would have a lot of money and it wouldn't be this defining thing. could all just live well. Yeah, working in retail should be...
00:37:55
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A respectable job, obviously like, with dignity. Yeah. And then perhaps a maximum wage. Like, it's like once you get to, like, $20, $30 million, dollars like, you're you're done.
00:38:07
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You're done with money. That's enough. $20, $30 million dollars as, like, a net worth? Yeah, as a net worth. That's enough net worth for you.
00:38:18
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but For anyone. I mean, yeah right? No, it is crazy when you hear about, like, People who make money. you more, you can just. What? Oh, no, go ahead. People who make lots of money, what? Oh, just like on like two and a half men or whatever. And then they still have like writing jobs on TV shows. And I'm just like, go to your island. Go, you know, you're good. Well, not that.
00:38:42
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okay But they have enough time to devote to creating new projects from the money. like Right. and then they have And then they have the credibility and experience. So. Yeah, so, you know, but they should have to shepherd it. Like they should have to mentor.
00:38:57
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Like showrunners should be obligated to mentor. just like Everything should be better for me. know But it's true. When you get to 20 or 30 million dollars, if you make more, you just decide what kind of philanthropic project you want to start with that money or donate that money to. And then that's it.
00:39:19
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Like done. Or give it to the city. Or like buy property and make a playground near where we live. Closer than the one in the park. Please just build a playground that we can walk like a few blocks from our house. give us your front lawn.
00:39:38
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I mean, there should be one next to the library. That's where it should be.
00:39:44
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We just turn the parking lot into a playground at the library. Oh, that's good. Yeah. that There shouldn't. I'm all for making, you know, making it harder for cars to go places.
00:39:59
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Yeah. I mean, he just, ah they can park. There's always room on our block. There's always room to park. That's true. There's room on our block too.
00:40:12
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So there's, there's parking in the neighborhood. You just have to go one block in from Hillhurst. Yeah. Yeah. And then take, the parking lot at the library, make it into a tot lot like playground thing.
00:40:24
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And that's it. Easy peasy. You can close it when the library closes. So who do we write to about this? Spencer Pratt? This is my official campaign. Well, Nydia is still the student councilwoman, a student council, the councilwoman.
00:40:41
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Is she still head of the freshmen? I feel like she's going to, if she's mayor, she'll have like less power even than as a council person. But anyway. Right. And she'll care even less about her petty parent or like the yuppie parent issues.
00:40:57
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I know. Yeah. We need her to stay. I don't even know who's running for city council in our district. I've only been paying attention to the mayor.
00:41:08
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But they all on TikTok, whenever they talk about it, all the Spencer Pratt bots are like, Nydia's district is a mess. It's a mess. And I'm like, have you been here? like it's You walked around Los Feliz is like heaven. It's just like.
00:41:23
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Literally heaven. Nothing is going wrong. Like things have only gotten better. And it's insane. It's just bizarre. We talked about this last time, I think. It's just bizarre.
00:41:35
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that Right, people say people's perceptions of of our neighborhood.
00:41:41
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there was ah There was a woman at the park yesterday. i was going to the bathroom with Freddie and I let him go and like we went to the ones by the the bus stop. um Yeah. And he went into a bathroom by himself.
00:41:55
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And then this woman accosted me out like before I was going into the bathroom and said, like, oh, you got to be careful. Like, I always keep my daughter with me because there is a man who was talking about – who came up to me and was, like, talking about harvesting organs.
00:42:14
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And you should really you should really be careful um and not be away from your kid. And I was just like, yeah, yeah, i'm I'm here every day. Like, I get it. Like, thank you for telling me.
00:42:31
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And then I just went to bed. Because you thought he'd like quickly harvest your child's organs? Yeah, I think like he would be like lurking in the bathroom and I would send my child into the bathroom by himself and then he would harvest my child's organs while he was in the bathroom.
00:42:46
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Or that he would like come outside and – be snatched by this organ harvester i mean it is a horrifying thing to say but this is just a crazy person the mumblings of a crazy person yeah yeah i mean he probably saw like i tried to understand i was like is she a tourist like i don't know um right do you not have you never interacted with a crazy person in la like you're Right. Yeah. Like, I'm just so used to it at this point. And they're so – like, my kids are so used to it that, like – Yeah.
00:43:22
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It's just not – it's not at the top of the list of fears I have. Right. I mean, it sounds – did you ever see or hear of Repo Man? It sounds like something inspired by that.
00:43:36
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Harvesting organs. Yeah. It's just scary movie stuff. But – Well, how would you get into that market? You'd have to have like a, what are those, a cooler, right?
00:43:48
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Right, yeah, I guess if he had a cooler, I should have asked her if he had a cooler with him. Like, is he putting his body where his mouth is? And a small plane, yeah.
00:43:59
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And something to like crop, right, to chop up the body. i oh yeah, yeah, how do you get in there? You got to get through the bones. Yeah, come on.
00:44:12
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He seemed ill prepared. Crazy. if you get If you are a child and you get an organ. Wait, sorry, saying that again? Because I was sneezing and I wanted to call that.
00:44:24
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If you're a child and you get you receive an organ donation, does the organ grow with you? I guess it does. oh that's good question. Or is it already full size?
00:44:36
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Yeah. Or does it stay small if you got it small? It must grow with you, right? Could it? fit Right. Because when they put it in your body, it's just going to be like, that's yours, right?
00:44:48
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That's your, yeah, your liver or whatever. but does But you're growing. don't guess I'd have to Google this. This is a science question.
00:45:00
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Okay. Hold on. I'm look i'm ah i'm on i'm on Reddit. Are you looking it up? Wait, med it? Yes. The only trustworthy source. This is your source.
00:45:10
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The transplanted organs will grow appropriately with the child as they age, as they would have in the donor's body, as is governed by the normal cell cycle and physiological changes.
00:45:24
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Okay, so they really do become yours. Oh, but it's ah children and children okay children over the age of two can receive a transplanted kidney from an adult, apparently.
00:45:36
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That's a big kidney. That's what it says. Okay, but the ah some sometimes it's five. It depends. Wow. Depends how big the kid is.
00:45:50
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Or the kidney, I guess. How big was the adult? Well, they'll never be as small as a five-year-old. Right. know Interesting.
00:46:00
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And you trust this. Was this just an anonymous person on Reddit giving this information? um It was on the Ask Science subreddit. And it was okay But another thing that I think is um important is that it's from 13 years ago and the Internet and Reddit in particular was slightly better place at that time.
00:46:23
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see okay Like remember what before like all normies use the internet and it was kind of just like oh a place for people who couldn't find like-minded people in the real world so they turned to the internet.
00:46:39
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Nerds. Yeah. There's just a slightly higher. line Yeah. Yeah. You trust nerds. I mean 13 years ago I did.
00:46:51
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I mean, there is a bit of a vacuum right now on the Internet in terms of like stuff you really want to use. I mean, what do you do what do you mean what is your Internet consumption right now? Like, what do you do?
00:47:04
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Oh, God. I mean, I'm on TikTok a lot, um mainly just because I'm totally sick of breastfeeding and I want it. And so whenever I do that, I go on TikTok usually.
00:47:17
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Okay, so that's your little treat you get in exchange for breastfeeding. It's more just like how I exit my body. Okay, okay. But it's worth it because he goes to sleep and he's very hard. Like he never wants to go to sleep. So it's like a train.
00:47:34
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um But yeah, it's usually doing that. So it's that. I mean, I watch streaming services on my phone. I don't think that counts really. um And then ChatGPT, I'll ask questions like,
00:47:47
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Let's say i'm having like like some kind of ADD burst of energy where I'm like, why don't I start this kind of business? How would that work? And they'll be like, ChachiPT, plot out like the first five steps to making this successful. And I'm like, ooh, and then I like fantasize about building that business for a second and then never actually do anything.
00:48:06
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um Or if I'm like panicking about what kind of job can I get? I'm like, ChachiPT, with this in this background, what the hell it? What does ChachiPT you should do?
00:48:18
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for a job? They said there was one that was interesting and I wrote it down and lost it, but it was it was something to do with basically like brand story.
00:48:31
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So like you'd create the character of the brand, like work in marketing, basically, and be like, um like Ikea is this kind of girl, you know, and then like create a story around that and create like branded content or like, all right, this is depressing. Our husbands just want to make more money because this, this can't, this can't happen. Very, no, no, very, very depressing. That's why I never took the steps because I was like, I could do that job. And if I could figure out how to like frame my,
00:49:02
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background of writing tweets for people in such a way, you know, because I've written tweets for comedians, you know, so i'm like, I can, you know, take a guitar and I've written scripts. No, no, no. Nobody's ever sent that to out of that hunt of comedians who tweeted for Tig Notaro. I have never been one of them. Wow. Wow. I had my day.
00:49:30
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It's the best day of my life. yeah day withs Oh God. hot But the pressure is on, man. The pressure is on. What did you tweet as Cignataro?
00:49:42
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It makes you, I had one, i had one really good one. I'll, uh, I'll have to, I don't know how I would ever find it. it just say to me I did. I did log into my Twitter for the first time in six years or something. So.
00:49:55
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Me and my friend had one time that somebody retweeted our video and it was like the best day of our lives. was Patton Oswalt. I think it was him.
00:50:09
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I think it was him. And he retweeted our video and we were like, we're famous now. We were like in the streets. And of course nothing came of it.
00:50:20
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I mean, I don't know if you did this, but like when I used to have tweets go viral or if I was like, this is a good tweet. i would like imagine in my head that like the tweet would be so good that I'd be on daytime television the next day and someone on a talk show would be like, so how'd you come up with the tweet? That's what happened. All you're doing is making content for Twitter and it doesn't do anything for anyone.
00:50:49
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But it can feel that way. Thank God we have children now and derive meaning from richer sources. And we got to wrap. I mean, I still post episodes.
00:51:00
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I still post episodes all the time. All the time.