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It's Roman Empire, It's Coca-Cola, It's Boy Moms
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Rena and Paige discuss the ~childfree by choice~ crowd, how we feel about advice from other parents, and, of course, how Paige survives without Taco Bell.
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Misunderstood Meetup
00:00:07
Speaker
Here we are. Here we are.
00:00:12
Speaker
i haven't seen you in a long time. We haven't? I haven't seen you since Saturday. have no concept of time. Where have you been? I don't know. I've been under a rock hiding. Tell me the truth. No, we've literally just been doing chores. i thought I thought for sure I was going to see you at the playground yesterday because you put a heart on the text from someone else talking about the playground. Oh, liked it. I thought that meant you were coming. Everyone knows that if someone says on the group text, I'm doing this –
00:00:43
Speaker
Especially if it's just going to the park. And somebody hearts it. And somebody hearts it. They're saying, I'll be there too.
Daily Routines & Child's Role
00:00:48
Speaker
What did we do yesterday? I think we were cleaning stuff and charging the car. And like, we were trying to clean the house and like mop the house. I need to tell everyone. i went to the bathroom earlier.
00:01:01
Speaker
And I came out and Rena was just sitting. i was in stasis. Staring into the middle distance. It was very alarming. I don't have much time to think to myself. it It was like a robot that had powered down. Yeah, I was not supposed to see her It was very revealing, yeah.
00:01:18
Speaker
But I'm all programmed now. That isn't what you were doing yesterday when I was waiting for you to come to the park. Oh, we should have gone. What did we do? We went to, we like got stuff we needed to clean the car.
00:01:31
Speaker
And then we cleaned the car and we cleaned the house. Did we do anything else? I'm trying to remember. i literally don't remember. So was your child contributing? Was he helping? He helped a bit. Yeah.
00:01:42
Speaker
We got him to help a bit. And then we let him watch a movie while we did the rest. But um he did practice mopping. And I was like, we should get him a mop his size. Oh, yeah. Well, especially, I mean, he can get on his hands and knees and clean. Right and scrub. Yeah. It's easier for a kid. Yeah. But he wants to do what we're doing.
00:02:00
Speaker
He wanted the mop because we're using the mop. Okay. So.
Fashion Practicality
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right essential backing the one Well, I have a lot of fancy clothes and nothing like that. Right. So you have the clothes, and but I don't see them. Yeah. I wear casual clothes. Like, and how much, to how many casual clothes you want to have? Like,
00:02:17
Speaker
You wear fancy clothes, but I wear fancy clothes all the time. I can't just wear my fancy clothes all time. Isn't it just as easy to put on fancy clothes as it is to put on non-fancy clothes? But I'll be more upset when they get covered in food or whatever is going to happen that day. You just got to wear them.
00:02:31
Speaker
Just wear them. No, they're very fancy. How much are they? I'll show you later. They're very fancy clothes. This why you're broke. You're spending thousands and thousands of dollars suits. No, it's not that they're so expensive. They're like semi-formal, like...
00:02:44
Speaker
semi-formal like I would love to see these things. Do you want to wear my sparkly dress next time? I'll wear it to the park. No one would bat an I know. They're like, oh, that's Paige again. It's true. You do seem like what? Morticia Adams? are like Who dresses like that as a mom? are they like It's hard to wear clothes when it's hot out. I know. Well, that's another thing I'm like not motivated to go. and i don't have any shorts that i like. so That's the thing. I keep wearing just little dresses because...
00:03:12
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That's what I have. no i have shorts I can't wear shorts because I have thighs. You don't want to wear shorts. Like it's like people who wear shorts have straight legs like they have like so they can walk and the shorts just stay.
00:03:25
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Or I could wear that go past the knee, but like, the Bernizas. But those look horrible on me. I look like a little boy. I would like look like my son if I would have. That could be really cute.
00:03:38
Speaker
Right. You should dress your son. We're both little sons. You should switch. You should do like what you did with your dad, but dress like your son instead of your mom. And trick husband? And trick your husband into being at your
Social Plans & TikTok Discoveries
00:03:51
Speaker
What are we doing right now? Take it further, okay?
00:03:55
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Terrifying. um I like the idea of dressing up, but yeah, it doesn't it just doesn't appeal to me right now. I just want to see it. So we need to do something. more You always go out on the town with your real friends, like not your mom friends, but real friends. Right, Friends who don't have kids, yeah. And I never get to experience fancy We should have a night on the town. Yeah, fancy rain is fun. and I want to see it. Okay.
00:04:17
Speaker
we could do We could do a fancy episode. Where we both, we can both dress up fancy. No, actually, we'd have to swap. You would have to go casual. I can't even picture it. now that i Oh, we could do we should do an episode where we pretend to be the other person. Be each other. Yeah. Yeah.
00:04:33
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Mode I wear. i'm mean, like, yeah, skirt on the pink top, I guess. I'm like, don't know. I mean, this is fine. Yeah, it's very ninety s Yeah, I like the 90s style.
00:04:47
Speaker
don't know. A white tee and a tank. t Yeah. Jumpsuit? Jumpsuit. Yeah. bought it on TikTok. The only place I shop. You bought it on TikTok? They sell clothes on TikTok? They do. It's most of what happens on there, I think. Really? It's pretty much. See, I can never go. I've never been on TikTok.
00:05:04
Speaker
I can't look at it. mean, it's basically like that channel, you know, the sales channel. The one on TV. Oh, QVC? QVC. TikTok is basically QVC? A lot of it is, yeah. So is it like you actual, the store is a place, youre sorry, vote the app is a place to buy items or do they link you to? No, the app is a place to buy items. Really? Yes.
00:05:28
Speaker
Is that new? No, it's always been. And by the more and more, because everybody's broke, like I could, I have enough followers that I could be like, I want to start just selling stuff on my channel. Oh, really Yeah, and just be a permanent commercial. And then I'd get like $3 for every sale or whatever like whatever I buy. I don't do it because I can't.
00:05:50
Speaker
I just I don't think I could reconcile with just being a permanent commercial. i mean, awesome any any person who uses platform thinking that they're using it for themselves is actually just giving them free content. Right. right That's true. Yeah. I mean, I am. Yeah, I'm giving TikTok my content.
00:06:10
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But I'm also, in theory, I mean, it hasn't worked out that way. But trying to build a personal brand. If I ever went on tour or something like that, like... Yeah. I'd like... some chaal Yeah, around in other areas that, like, I can't necessarily travel to right now and tell jokes to or whatever.
00:06:26
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so you just advertise online. And then, theoretically, i mean, it's... I don't know how much it's worked out because I haven't gone on tour.
Comedy & Financial Challenges
00:06:34
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So I literally... i don't know. have an album.
00:06:37
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I have two albums. should be telling people you have albums. Yeah, I do have albums. But didn't do tour. You just did it here? Yeah, I just recorded them here. Yeah. And then released. I mean, people theoretically hear them on the radio, but or one of them.
00:06:54
Speaker
On the radio? Yeah, on Sirius XM. Oh. Yeah. That's the only money I make right now. In Canada? Yeah. Do you say just Canada-specific jokes? And in America on the all-female channel where you get paid hundredth of a percent of what you would get paid. Underpaying, winning. Underpaying because it's only on the website. It's not on the actual, like, it's like there's... For serious stuff? Yeah, it's web content. So it's like you get paid. I get paid.
00:07:24
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The difference is like 20 cents a spin versus $40. It's a huge difference. They experimented making it a real channel once and I made like so much more money.
00:07:37
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And then they like, this is terrible. This is not good because they're making too much money. They just traded it back for, so I don't know, the dirty channel or what the nasty show or whatever the other channel was. I had admit, I'm intrigued and might want to listen to that. Like Howard Stern? like it's joeardur It's just basically comedians being like, I eat ass and sucking dick. is like this like They're just saying stuff like that.
00:08:01
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Well, it's just that. It's like it's gross stories about gross stuff. like Yeah. If they have good time. I mean, some of my jokes would qualify, but there's just there's a lot of competition for that one. As you can imagine, comedians are not good at being clean.
00:08:17
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You know, there's a I should have had you read this article. There was a New York Times article. recently that Mike was like, how is this not from 2017? And I agreed. And I think I posted about it. is it about on substa It's just a, it's a woman comedian named Alison Weavey. Have you heard of her? Weavey? Yeah. L-E-I-B-Y. And her whole thing is um just ranting and raving about how she's childless.
00:08:48
Speaker
Which is also, she's well, she's in her 40s. And when someone's in their 40s talking about how they don't want to have kids, I'm always like, yeah, i you're in a I didn't think you did. Right. Like that time has passed. Well, it might be old material. that is another thing. It's hard to let I'm wondering if, and then so she had show that was all like bragging about her abortion. Okay. And
Polarizing Comedy & Basic Content's Appeal
00:09:13
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something like the timing Roe versus Wade, the In 2022. Uh-huh. When in some states abortion became impossible. They rid of it. They aborted it. Yeah.
00:09:24
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They aborted abortion. And then so she was really mad that her... She didn't end up getting like a Netflix show. She didn't get... She wanted to go big session She had she had a show that she thought was going to become like a Netflix special. Okay. And it didn't.
00:09:40
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um And I think she blames the time the timing... of Oh, because it was about abortions. Yes. And it was right when everything flipped red or whatever. Right, right. Her whole thing is she's child free by choice. And so she's saying people, her material is so polarizing. I hear this a lot when people say my material is so polarizing. But I'm like, but maybe it's just not good.
00:10:04
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I mean, maybe. Have ever considered that? Polarizing is a PR attack. Totally. Because like controversy sells. So it's like if somebody says this is going to start arguments,
00:10:15
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like then it's like, oh, okay, whatever. People love to argue or feel self-righteous or whatever. So, and the internet runs on people basically just arguing other. think the New York Times article, I think, you know, they do a lot of rage bait. Yeah, so they're just rage baiting and, and I mean, i who would not want an article about them in the New York Times, you know? Right, she's doing the, she's doing the media circuit right now. So, so her PR, whatever idea is like, that's it the way to sell it. It was something like,
00:10:46
Speaker
all of me or too much or just know but but that's not the book i want to read i want to read the book oh i'm it's called i'm a lot have you ever heard him i'm a lot 2017s isn't there book called too much like oh yeah no it's that's why i'm i'm a lot all too much yeah but lena dunham shows i don't know i can't i can't tear down another cock like somebody who Who's a comedian that I just, that I feel like they're part of my but she might be good. I haven't seen her material.
00:11:16
Speaker
Yeah. Actually, check it out and tell me what you have. Okay. I'll check it out. Oh, it's a book of essays. Book of essays. I mean, good for She got a book deal. I mean, in this economy, she's getting York Times book deal. What I find so depressing is it's just the media is stuck in 2017. Well, maybe. It's just pussy hats. But there are a lot of people still wearing skinny jeans. Isn't that?
00:11:37
Speaker
Like there are lot of people stuck in 2017. You gotta to move on. Because I feel like I've gone so far past 2017 and I'm just waiting for everyone to catch up. yeah But then I think they're stunted. I think they're stunted. But this is coastal elitism at its finest right now. I mean like, oh yeah, we're always a few years ahead. These are coastal elites. is she And these are the people getting book deals. Who's she selling the book to, though?
00:11:59
Speaker
Not the coastal. Or maybe they are. yeah it's a good. i think I think I'm always depressed because I find out that People who have these jobs that pay lots of money are just, at the end of the day, extremely basic bitches.
00:12:14
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That's how feel about Taylor Swift. She's like, Ms. Basics. People who can commit to basicness will sell. It's prime colors. I mean, it's Roman Empire. It's Coca-Cola. like It's like prime colors sell because because it's like it's a uniting force.
00:12:33
Speaker
You know? It's like the structure of a rom-com. Like it's like, it's just normal and bland and whatever. And you know how it's going to turn out. And that's what people want. I mean, I watch Gilmore Girls when I'm depressed, as you know.
00:12:45
Speaker
But Gilmore Girls, you can tell is written by a smart person. It's true. Yeah. There's something, it's not, it's not just a like a lot of, and that's what's so great about it is a lot of very basic people love Gilmore Girls. Right. Right.
00:13:00
Speaker
But it's not really basic. It's a little different. Yeah. It's not. So in a way, that's like, that's heartening
Concert Experience & Child-Free Choices
00:13:05
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to me. The fact that so many people love Gilmore Girls. Right. I derive a lot of pleasure from that. Okay, yeah. Well, what would you say? it what's the when we're not supposed to talk about TV shows. I always do it. I always do it. But like, yeah, what would you say? Big Bang Theory is the most basic of shows? or like I don't know. I haven't really watched it.
00:13:24
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But I mean, yeah, Friends is you know that's ah or the Office, which but that's also interesting because The Office is a genuinely really a great show. Yeah, it's an incredible show. The fact that people love is amazing. Yeah, people, that's the thing. When things are really incredible and they're undeniable, that's what you want your country's arts and culture scene to be is the undeniable stuff. not the That's why the basic stuff is so offensive because you know how good it can be. Right. And it really brings you down. Yeah, it feels lower frequency or something. like But to be fair, I have not watched Taylor too that's right taylor Swift's
00:14:01
Speaker
They made a video of her big, to the Eros tour. i haven't watched it. So I actually don't know what I'm missing. Yeah. Somebody said it changed their lives. I mean, I went to the concert. Oh, you did? And it's it's it was so impressive. So it changed. It's like three hours long. That's crazy. That feels incredibly too long. But she had that she just had to cover a lot of ground. Because she was covering all of the Eros. Oh, the Eros. Oh, I understand now.
00:14:25
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um But I brought up the Alice in Levy thing. Yeah. Because... she talks about how much she doesn't like kids. And I don't know how much, I mean, I've encountered people why do you don't have kids who unironically use the word breeders, like refer to parents as breeders. I feel like that started in the, maybe the gay community, the breeders thing.
00:14:50
Speaker
And then about straight people. like Right. I remember, I know straight people who talk like, that like how much do you encounter that sort of, that perspective? Nobody says to my face. I mean, I feel like maybe used to hear that, but i was you know how much I took note of it was not much. i mean But what what do you think the reason is?
00:15:12
Speaker
do you think it's like an unconscious wish to have children and they're resentful that they can't? Or do you think it's like... that they hate their inner child or like is what kind of projection is going on? i know. That's what I'm that's what I can't figure out.
00:15:25
Speaker
I mean, know, the innocence there's there must be some they were children, right? Or like everyone was a child. So it's crazy to me that it's acceptable. Maybe i could accept I could see someone, like let's say in the Hasidic community or where a parent that has a lot of kids, if they were the eldest and they had to take care of all their siblings. And then they resent. I could see them hating kids after that.
00:15:49
Speaker
Like just feeling the weight. But usually think it usually has the opposite effect where it makes kids seem very normal. Right. That's the thing. Having kids should just be considered very normal. It's what we have done for a very long But I've definitely encountered people like that who are like, I don't want to have kids. Like i already raised my siblings like, you know.
00:16:07
Speaker
And I definitely think people who don't want to have kids shouldn't have them. Yeah. I'm not going to argue with that. But why are they so loud about it? About not... Well, there's also this thing where people feel like it's the moral high ground with climate change. should not yeah So there's that. We've talked about that before.
00:16:28
Speaker
But... um So, I mean, there's that. And I think it's once again, it goes back to what we were talking about on the internet where it's like your point of view, no matter how controversial, will find validation and also will find its opposite online and you will get into arguments. Yeah. The more you argue about it, the more you you get dug into your side and defending it and identifying with it. Hence, like identity politics. I bet identity has a lot to do. with Yeah. Because they want identity. Because everyone wants an identity, especially our generation.
00:16:59
Speaker
Identity is so important to the MySpace generation. That's feel so lost. so that so But I think these these women want to identify as child-free. And men, too. I've met men like this, too, who are very much like, I child-free.
Social Perceptions of Parenting
00:17:16
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, if you know what it reminds me of? It reminds me of, like, vehement atheists. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because there's some kind of resentment there of growing up religious or something happened where it's like, you feel you sound just as religious about being an atheist as somebody who's religious. Right.
00:17:34
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And it's no, there's, but it's just the same, it's the polarizing thing of like, just not gray. But want an identity. You want something on to. I am this. It's very teenager-y. I mean, I, mean, maybe it's just not that deep. Maybe they just find kids annoying at the high pitched and the mucus. And then just, that's the category they put them Right. They just write them off as people. But it is crazy that an entire, something that we all are at one point in our lives. Yeah. That can just be written off. And it's okay to say you hate them.
00:18:00
Speaker
Right. You can't say it out loud about the elderly. Right. But you can just try to ignore them, which most people do. Right. That's their way of saying, don't want anything to do. But the elderly won't come up in your face or throw a ball at your head, you know? So it's like you can just... They're saying the elderly need to ride on separate planes.
00:18:18
Speaker
I mean, there's a lot. I mean, there's a lot of discourse, obviously, in this country that's going on that's terrifying and anti-intellectual and no gray area. And it's really scary.
00:18:30
Speaker
What to say about it? The solution to... Some of these women who loudly speak of not wanting to have kids. What's the solution? Got to get knocked up.
00:18:42
Speaker
I mean, that's what happened to me. It's a very personal choice. It's like with parenting. It's like you can say what worked for you, but ultimately you've only had your kids. I was just remembering this, actually, that when I was pregnant, every parent I knew was telling me to do exactly what they did. And they're like, this works. I know this works. And they were giving me all this unsolicited advice, like bowling me over with it. Mm-hmm.
00:19:05
Speaker
And like a lot of it was like, okay, well, that's what worked for you. i actually did it this way and that's what worked for me. But they were very dogmatic about Well, if it was late then- You already did it. Why were they even giving you advice? No, for having a kid, like for what to do with the kid. Like, it's like you can't have an outside view of someone else's life. You don't know what the circumstances. were See, I loved getting advice. I got advice very rarely because I knew so few people. I should have sicked everyone on you. and I didn't know you yet. I always loved advice from, I always enjoyed getting advice from friends. i just have so kids, friends who have kids
00:19:40
Speaker
who oh yeah the mind I mean, it was mostly around this the the stuff you needed to have for having a baby. Oh, yeah. it's like no one wants to hear. It's crip people send me their baby shower registries. And I'm always like, this stuff is crazy. You don't need any of this. Maybe they do. Maybe they want to use that stuff.
00:19:57
Speaker
That's what I'm saying. Like people told me I didn't need a what is it? The diaper genie. But we use the diaper genie. It's like a garbage thing just next to the pail for the for the diapers. That's like separate from your garbage. That's near the changing table.
00:20:12
Speaker
Yeah, that seems like a diaper pail is a normal thing. Yeah, people are like, no, you don't need that. Just use your garbage. And I was like, we actually totally needed that to stay in the room. like it We've only ever had the cloth diaper thing, so I never even – But that's what I'm saying. It's like it's just it's like relative to you. like Somebody was like, you don't need a changing table. Just change them wherever. And it's like, we really it like liked having a changing table. You know what I mean? like so it's just just – didn't know how to listen to it.
00:20:36
Speaker
Yeah, I didn't. But it's like – But i think that I don't mind the advice. I don't mind the advice. I just think that it's like it's folly to think that you have a better perspective on someone else's life. or just like and I think it can be helpful to be like this thing that I i bought this thing and it was utterly useless. Yeah. And you could line that up and be like, okay, for my situation, maybe that would also be useless. The only thing I would say is like I was like if you're going to get a thing that you hook around you for the baby to be on, like only get the breast friend. The other ones are ridiculous. Yeah.
00:21:09
Speaker
That was the only one that I was like that. A nursing pillow? Yeah, because we got like a smooshy one and I was like, this is not, I can't like carry him right on this. Like you want like a flat one. I just read something. it was like things I regret putting on my registry, like things they felt useless. And the first one was a breastfeeding pillow.
00:21:25
Speaker
Yeah, that's insane. It was like insane. I was like, I use mine every day. Every day. But I used it, to me, it was crucial for eating. So that I could eat while I was just sitting on the couch and he would sleep against me on the pillow. So to me, it was essential because I was eating off him. I would do it like I would hold – if he fell asleep nursing, I'd be like sitting. Then I could like carry him yeah if I had to pee or whatever. Like it was like that.
00:21:50
Speaker
Yeah, I'm pro-speed. And yeah, it was so I could eat. Yeah, and you have more – like it's like the carrier is one thing, but it's like sometimes you want to just – Also, I was too scared to put him in a carrier for a little while. i couldn't do it before he had neck control. I was too scared that he would just suffocate in there, which is probably irrational. But I was like- I mean, it can be awkward when they're really tiny. Yeah.
00:22:13
Speaker
No, they don't have neck control until, i forget if it's like two or three months or something. like I can't remember. But yeah, the neck control thing freaked both of us out a lot, that they could just fall forward and die. Yeah. It's scary.
00:22:26
Speaker
who But yeah, then, then yeah, the carrier was the best.
Balancing Work & Parenthood
00:22:30
Speaker
Do you remember my carrier with the gnomes? I do. my was great. Such a cute carrier. I had a really cute carrier. had a really comfy one. was really comfortable. It was the Ergo something. i can't remember. We have it somewhere. I should probably get rid of it. You never know.
00:22:46
Speaker
i think I do. ah If we win the lottery, perhaps, we'd need we'd need significantly more income to for me to feel comfortable like doing that.
00:22:59
Speaker
How much more? I mean, what do you want your infant to be for two kids? For two kids? Yeah. In LA? What you think? Yeah, we'd need at least as much as you. Well, and we'd want to get more, and ah you know, each have their own bedroom. But it is' it's crazy.
00:23:14
Speaker
Okay, kids, they don't need their own bedroom. Eventually they will. teenage years? My teenageren are never going have their own bedroom. Never? What do we, I mean, guess my does that. We don't have a third bedroom. Yeah, yeah, So what would we do? You're never going to move?
00:23:26
Speaker
I'm not planning on it. Fair enough. If we ever if we get evicted, which is possible. Renting. Yeah. We would. I mean, I'd need enough money to not be scared. I mean, it would have to be at least as much, as like Mike makes. But I think people, people especially in l LA, it it prevents people from having kids because they do think you need to have like several hundred. Like I'll read things.
00:23:52
Speaker
Or like on Reddit, for example. Someone will be like, I'm going to move to LA. make $250,000 a year. i'm planning to have kids. And people are like, that's not enough. $250,000? Yes. That's enough.
00:24:05
Speaker
Or even $150,000. They'll say that's not enough. That's enough. Like if you're not trying to buy a house – What are you, like the expectations, I mean, we don't pay for childcare is the thing. I mean, I think, right. Because am childcare. Right, yeah. And I think that's a huge, that's probably the biggest. Well, that's why I have to work. Like, it's like, we just don't make enough to, and that he doesn't even cost a lot right now. We don't make it That's the thing. Kids don't actually cost that much money. No, it's just, but it's like being poor is fine when it's just you. But when you have a kid, it's like, I just, I don't want him to ever feel that. Yeah. I don't want him to be stressed.
00:24:39
Speaker
Wait, so how, you had your first working day the other day. Oh, yeah. Yeah. How did it go? I mean, it's I'm great at serving, you know. did you I mean, did you have any fun? Was it fun at all? It was fun. Yeah. It's way easier than being a stand-up mom.
00:24:51
Speaker
I'm sorry. It's like I was cater-waiting, okay? Like, which is like, it's manual labor. But honestly, like, I love getting exercise. Serving people. It's similar in some ways. No, no. There's no comparison. It's way harder to be home with your kid, in my opinion. For me, anyway, the level of, like, stress. Yeah.
00:25:11
Speaker
I don't know, to me. but um And what's cool is you have coworkers, right? So you're all kind of in it together. I forgot about that too. I was like, oh, the best part of serving is the coworkers. I've graduated to being like that one older server that they're like, why does she still have this job? Because I'm a failed artist. yeah No, I was surprised because I was like, do I even remember how to do this? And it just felt like an old glove. I served for many years. would have liked you,
00:25:41
Speaker
I don't know. I mean, coworker is it's a very laissez-faire company. That's what I love about it, too. They're really hands off. So you just show up, do the job and leave like and there's no management like.
00:25:52
Speaker
but Did you get good tips? I mean, I didn't get paid yet. I'm waiting. You get it within 10 days. Like so you don't even you don't even get you don't get your tips immediately. Not like with waitressing. You do if you're bartending, but I'm not bartending. I'm not doing that. It's way more work.
00:26:06
Speaker
Do you have another job lined up? No, I mean, I put availability. I also did all my radio calls, but I'm not allowed to talk about those. Did you, so when you were going to your job on the other day when you went to your job, did you tell your kid like,
00:26:20
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Mommy's going to work. And he was like, what are you talking about? No, he understands. Yeah, it was fine. Okay. Yeah. And I mean, it is the only really downside about it is that it's gross.
00:26:32
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It's gross? Yeah, because you pick up the dirty plates. Oh, yeah. don't have trouble with that. It's disgusting. Like you're like feel disgusting afterwards. But the thing that I love is the exercise. I mean, like, I love getting exercise and I need to be alone to do that or like not with my kid. Like, because otherwise I'm just stressed about the kid. Like, it's like I can't. Can you push him in the stroller? I can push him in the stroller, but then I'm in the heat and like and then I have to see people. And it's just not my ideal scenario. You don't to see people in the stroller. I could do it at the gym where you're like sweating. I want to be sweating where you're supposed to be sweating. You know what I mean? Like or whatever. But but when I'm working, I don't care. I don't notice it. And then like you get like a pretty good you're on your feet for like five hours running around. Like it feels good afterwards. You know, you get that like post exercise high. Yeah. I love that.
00:27:20
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Yeah, so that's fun about it. I like being on my feet. That's probably why I'm never going to make money because I like moving around. I don't like sitting. Yeah, there aren't any physical jobs that pay.
Child Behavior Insights
00:27:30
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I unless I was a construction, but it's like I'm not going to be a construction worker. Yeah, like union. Yeah. Well, and some of them I'm like, they're not going to hire me. Like I'm like, I'd be a food runner at a restaurant. They're not going hire me for that. Like, you know, but I could be a server. Oh, you could be like a professional athlete who makes millions dollars. You have to be under 25 for that.
00:27:48
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to start. I mean, and and have an athletic... I've had zero. glad you took me seriously. was like, I'll take anything seriously right now. I was looking for work.
00:28:00
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Okay, so we haven't talked to boy mom stuff at all. Do you have any stories? We need a story. I have a story. mean, it's something I thought was funny. Let's hear Although I remember parents back in the day, I'd be like, my kid did this thing that was so funny. And then they'd tell me the story and be like, eh,
00:28:16
Speaker
All right. who what What else you got? I never found that. It's basically just that like he can't really sometimes he lies to us, but he can't really. Yeah, sometimes. but not a But but this time he really couldn't. So basically what happened was we have this like stone turtle that he painted once. So it's like his little turtle. Okay. above our sink, we have like it a little thing that represents each of us. So I have like a yellow boot and then my husband has a dragon and then we have the little turtle.
00:28:47
Speaker
Okay. That's our child. And he was playing with the turtle, but he was also like flinging it around and it was too hard and he wanted to throw it. And I was like, you can't throw things that are hard. You can only throw smooshy things. Smooshy things are fine, but like hard things can hurt.
00:29:01
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people, obviously. Soft things. Soft things. I mean, soft. Soft, yes. So my husband took the turtle away from him because he was throwing it. um And so then he obviously started crying and he wanted the turtle back. And we kept being like, okay, if we give it back to you, are you going to throw it? And he'd be like, and he'd be like, yes, I'm going to throw it. And we'd like, okay, so we can't give it back to you. Like yeah couldn't. He's very honest. Yeah. He was very honest about this, this time. Like, So and we and he kept crying and be like, can I get it back? And and then we'd be like, OK, we'll give it back to you, but you can't throw it yeah And he just kept being like, no, I'm going to throw it. Like so we couldn't lie, basically. And then we never gave him back the turtle because boys, once they're older, it seems like they lie constantly. Really? Like school age. Boys lie. Is that not the title of a book but of 2017? That feels like a 2017 book. Yeah. Boys lie. Men are trash. Boys lie.
00:29:58
Speaker
They do lie. Kill all men. They've lied to me. i definitely did a set like at one time. i mean, I was just joking, obviously, but I hosted a mic after the, was it? The judge got appointed. The guy who like sexually assaulted a bunch of women in college. Kavanaugh. Oh, yeah, yeah. Brett Kavanaugh. And I was like, let's kill all the men.
00:30:19
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it kiss And people were offended. The bartender was upset with me for saying that. I mean, words have meaning. was obviously in my previous life, but...
00:30:30
Speaker
I mean, you love your dad, right? But you've moved past that. Yeah, of course. Now we are disturbed when we hear – we've probably talked about this before. Like, girl moms saying, never have a boy. yeah. Or just talking about how boys are a little slower or whatever say. Which is not true at all. No, there's a lot of – Guess what? If you interact with your child, that's how they become smart. So that's all have to do. Unless they're naturally stupid. I mean – But if they're – Like you're building their brain. This is the book I need to bring in. Oh, okay. But talking to your kid
Impact of Technology on Children
00:31:05
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is what literally builds their brain. Oh. So if you're – That's why doing great. I mean, we chat a lot. I mean, I've been talking to him Somebody – I heard some podcast or something that was like, just start talking to them immediately.
00:31:17
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So I've talked to him since birth. yeah. I've described changing his diaper before he like understood anything. – Yeah, I've been just talking and talking and talking. In terms of being a stay-at-home mom, that's all that matters. Is the talking? Is talking to your child. So i've done a great job. But it is great. Like people, if their kid is yeah if their kid isn't getting interaction wherever they're going all day, it's a huge problem. Oh, yeah, haunting. And they think that's why kids don't know how to talk anymore or write.
00:31:43
Speaker
So they not know how to talk and write. Is that true? Yes. Because I feel like every generation, they're like, this generation is only getting more true. I mean, TV is obviously the biggest. TV the biggest problem. Yeah. I mean, I think I would be a lot better talking if it weren't for TV. I think there's been a lot of disregard for how lockdown affected kids do, like school-age kids.
00:32:02
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because they're all – Because everyone's like, why is Gen Z so antisocial? It's well – They can't make eye contact. They don't know to talk to be They isolated at and at a pretty crucial time for socializing. Like, so it makes sense that they're scared a little bit. But also those building blocks should have been there already.
00:32:17
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And I think the problem is they also – everyone was a different age. We had time pre-phones, you know, we that's during our vulnerable years. That's true. And they didn't. It was all screens from. Yes, somebody said, because, you know, in Brooklyn, there's this group, there are groups of teenagers who are ditching their smartphones.
00:32:35
Speaker
And somebody said they saw them once and they were so comforted because they were like reading philosophy books and smoking cigarettes like the way teenagers should be. That's so true though. That is true. That's the time you're supposed be that. You should dressing weird and like learning about liberal stuff. But they can't become, if you're spending all your time reading other people's opinions. Well, they're getting brainwashed. You can't build an identity. They're getting brainwashed by these things. You can't build a personality.
Health & Food Preferences
00:33:00
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yeah. There's like psyops going on. I mean, we could go down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole, but.
00:33:05
Speaker
There's definitely a lot of like, you don't need women, just go to the gym and then join the army. It's like a lot of like pipelines going on. Yeah. That's why kids shouldn't be on phones.
00:33:17
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, like I said, i want we're planning long term once he starts school to be dishing our smartphones. Yeah. that's So that mike said Mike started it. He's off? he's He's had a flip phone for...
00:33:29
Speaker
Six months now. Okay. Yeah. We're going to get there. We're not there right now, obviously. Yeah. Well, that's the lot of things to figure out. The FaceTime, doing on your laptop. Right. You have to plan it. I can't stalk them anymore, which also means I don't know where my kids are. See, that's thing. Because if he has my kids, I can't track them. It's like I want to be able still to track. I think we are just going to get AirTag.
00:33:53
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for him like something Yeah, they're old enough that they won't eat them or whatever. Yeah, I meant Mike. but He's not going to be hungry enough to to eat that. he's not He actually is dieting. He is? yeah Why? i don't know. I never notice differences in people's weight.
00:34:11
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Yeah. I will have friends or family members lose like 50 pounds and and they'll be like, do you notice that I am different? I truly, I'm so beyond the surface. If I showed you an old picture of me, I think you would be like, oh, you But you would have to be telling me that. Right, right, right. But it's not that he's like scared of certain foods or something. like What do you mean scared? Sometimes people get like scared like you like read something about. Mike, that would never happen to him in a million years. Right, right, right. Because he always researches. He doesn't. Yeah, he's not. He's always telling me that I'm an idiot.
00:34:46
Speaker
okay. When I'm like, what about this? We shouldn't be having this. I'm trying to think of their stuff I'm vehemently – like it's like obviously chemicals are bad, like straight up chemicals. Yeah, get rid of the red for – No, it's like I think – like it's like boomers lived a long time. boomers are – they are better off than us, it seems like. Yeah, and they ate everything off of plastic. So I'm like – and I am scared of plastic. I am scared of plastic because I've been conditioned to be scared of plastic. But then I'm like, wait, but everyone's been fine. But they eating years years and years.
00:35:19
Speaker
Yeah, so I really think the actual danger is geography. like Like leaks that have happened previously in that area that things have like gotten into the soil or stuff that you're like not going to know.
00:35:31
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like um Like you'd have to like research the history of the geography or something. for like No, I think that stuff, it you you'll hear about but like a cluster of brain tumors. Yes, exactly. one place yeah and that's like Yeah, like the Erin Brockovich stuff. like That stuff's real. Yeah.
00:35:48
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I still haven't been to Taco Bell. Guys, I'm starving. Oh, yeah. What are you going to do? What are you going to do, Paige? I had just tried it for the first time. What? a Taco Bell. I tried it for the first time. And I was like, oh, it's not bad. Right before the lettuce controversy. And then I was like, oh this is so good. We should go back to Taco Bell. Like, you're right. It's like beans. It's like not so bad. um And then, yeah.
00:36:10
Speaker
Yeah. Well, even tried the diet blue drink or whatever the stuff like chemicals. but What is that called? Baja Blast? Baja Blast. Yeah. bus Blast. It's a great name. No, Mike loves that. I love names of products. But I guess Chipotle. We just have Chipotle. Oh, yeah. Chipotle is fine. But there's something about Chipotle where it's like it doesn't really – like I feel like hungry like an hour and a half. Have had the sofritos Chipotle?
00:36:33
Speaker
Sofritos? What is that? Sofritos. The tofu. I always just get the bowl. Yeah. Try the sofritas sometime. Okay. Because they're already seasoned. Okay. They taste really good. Okay. little bit spicy. And you feel – you sustain feeling full until the next meal? No, because we only – when I get – I'll get a sofritas burrito. Yeah. Tortilla.
00:36:52
Speaker
Oh, burrito. That's why. i need to have the tortilla. Yeah. Because I get the bowl and then I'm like, I'm still hungry. Like this is just – you got to eat me the tortilla. But the sofritas are very filling. And extremely cheap if you just get tortilla and sofritas and they charge it as a side. oh And then you end up spending four something. oh that is a good That's a good saver in general, ordering sides instead of what's listed on the menu. Just put it all together. It's a huge, yeah. They didn't even charge. For some reason, I go to Chipotle with my kids and...
00:37:25
Speaker
They'll always not charge me for random things like chips or it's little sides of beans and rice. And I think they're just like, a this kid pathetic mother is coming in here. They need to go to Chipotle for a meal. And they're obviously trying to do some sort of hacks.
00:37:39
Speaker
They're troubled and we need to get them free. Right. And it's not like Chipotle. Aren't they owned by McDonald's? Well, gotta go to story time. Yeah.