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Jerid tried to bamboozle Denis into surface grinding his knives for him while Jerid's busy playing Spiderman in his shop! Friends only go so far.... Come listen in.
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Transcript
Playful Banter and Knife Testing
00:00:16
Denis Tyrell
hello everyone welcome to another triple t for knife makers podcast i am your host dennis trell of trell knifeworks and i have my bamboozling friend jared sandoval from echo blades i put something in the show notes and it has him perplexed and upset and i love it it's making me very happy actually
00:00:42
echo_blades
I'm wondering how you're going to do this show all by yourself because I'm about to fucking go to sleep.
00:00:48
Denis Tyrell
I feel like you bamboozled me because I wake up and I find two knives on my doorstep. And Jared goes, and he sends me a text.
00:00:56
echo_blades
Yes.
00:00:59
Denis Tyrell
And he says, I'd like you to test these on the HRC, on the hardness tester, but they're not surface ground. So this is you fucker trying to get me to subscribe your knives, isn't it?
00:01:14
echo_blades
No, adam absolutely.
00:01:15
Denis Tyrell
Oh yeah. Yeah. Right. Right.
00:01:18
echo_blades
i of okay I feel so much better.
00:01:23
Denis Tyrell
You just secretly wanted to, this is your ploy to get me to do work on your knives, you fucker.
00:01:31
echo_blades
oh my God. Okay. I feel so much better about this. i was literally like having anxiety over what the fuck did I do? No.
00:01:42
Denis Tyrell
Because I saw the knives actually before you texted me, and I'm like, oh, he must want to work on these or something. Daddy's dropping them off. And then I see your text, and I'm like, motherfucker wants me surface grind his knives.
00:01:57
echo_blades
I swear that didn't even cross my mind. I i i was like, okay, there's some decarve on there, but i was like, maybe it'll just fucking take it to to the zip zip on.
00:02:06
Denis Tyrell
no No, you can't HRC test them without surface grinding them.
00:02:11
echo_blades
we've done a million of them without doing it.
00:02:13
Denis Tyrell
And never once.
Weekend Recap and Family Time
00:02:16
Denis Tyrell
We never, i never HRC test my knives without taking the decarbon.
00:02:16
echo_blades
That is a,
00:02:21
Denis Tyrell
You have to, or it's the mean it's meaningless.
00:02:26
echo_blades
I'm going to agree to disagree, but yes, I know that is, that is a better of the two. And I wish I had the foresight to have a satisfaction over doing that to you. I did. I got none of that.
00:02:41
Denis Tyrell
Well, the joke's on you because I haven't done either one yet because I just never got around to it.
00:02:43
echo_blades
Okay. No, okay. That's fine then.
00:02:47
Denis Tyrell
I'll do it tomorrow.
00:02:48
echo_blades
That's hilarious. I was like, I didn't know.
00:02:51
Denis Tyrell
Do
00:02:55
echo_blades
Okay. All right. I feel better. All right.
00:02:57
Denis Tyrell
you feel better now?
00:02:57
echo_blades
we The show will show will go on. yeah
00:03:02
Denis Tyrell
So how are you? How was your weekend?
00:03:05
echo_blades
My weekend was fucking... it Overall... I was bummed because i had, um, cause I couldn't golf.
00:03:15
Denis Tyrell
Because you couldn't golf.
00:03:17
echo_blades
Yeah. Literally. And I mean, I took this time off to, to make sure that I can get, you know, a bunch of golf in and, um, it rained like the entire time. So I only got one day in and I spent three holes in the rain, like a jackass, um, or three holes.
00:03:32
echo_blades
Did I say three holes in the rain?
00:03:33
Denis Tyrell
Mm-hmm.
00:03:34
echo_blades
Yeah. And, um, actually birdied the first hole and then it started to like uncomfortably wet. Um, so I went parked under a tree for a while and then it was, I was a single and two guys ended up catching me, which is not supposed to happen.
00:03:52
echo_blades
Um, luckily I knew one of them and I ended up joining them and, They're like, how in the hell did you did you you let us catch you? Because you're you're you're not playing slow or anything.
00:04:03
echo_blades
And I was like, i was playing two balls and trying to stay out of the rain there. So, yeah, it was a wet day. um And then byproduct of that, though, Dennis, was that I got three, not one, not two, but three full days of knife making.
00:04:23
Denis Tyrell
i love it
00:04:24
echo_blades
And it was, ah it was a lot of fun and I had a great time. It's Sunday. and i don't know what was my favorite. um I had fun all all three days, but the day in in the shop yesterday by myself was just everything I've, I used to love about it.
00:04:43
echo_blades
It was good. I did a little bit of cleaning, a little bit of this, a little bit of that. And I was multitasking and some stuff in the, you know, doing some thermal cycling while I was grinding and,
00:04:54
echo_blades
I got to break in my new even heat finally. So it was good, man. I did did a lot of lot of shit in the shop, um and i was feeling feeling pretty good by the end of
Work Reflections and Knife Making Class
00:05:08
echo_blades
the the weekend.
00:05:08
echo_blades
But I do have a very, very heavy, overwhelming case of depression for the fact that I had to go to work today.
00:05:08
Denis Tyrell
Nice.
00:05:22
Denis Tyrell
Well, someone's got to get the work done. Well,
00:05:24
echo_blades
It just... It is not what I'm into.
00:05:31
Denis Tyrell
that's why it's called work and not play.
00:05:31
echo_blades
there's like a ninety nine per There's like a 99% chance my fucking buddy boss is fucking going listen to this. And I just want to let him know, fuck you.
00:05:45
echo_blades
yeah Because, yeah.
00:05:47
Denis Tyrell
How's going on your, what do they call your PA?
00:05:50
echo_blades
My... Yeah, my folder, my deep dive folder. The good thing about it is he probably feels the same way. So, but at any rate, yeah, it was, uh, it was really good. I had, uh, five days off for the two weeks. I've never done that before.
00:06:07
echo_blades
Um, I've worked every day through this, through the holiday normally. So, um, it was really nice. Good break, work two days, five days off, work two days, five days off. Like, I think that should be the the way.
00:06:20
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:06:21
echo_blades
Um, and then,
00:06:21
Denis Tyrell
And everything, everything still continued at work without you. Right.
00:06:25
echo_blades
Yeah, but it's it would be different if it was in the, ah you know, not in the slow. the A lot of things just kind of trail off. I mean, there's some still some try-hard people that ah have some schedules they're trying to keep, but it's been pretty quiet. So even today was pretty quiet.
00:06:43
echo_blades
so But the the storm is a-brewing. Things are a coming and got to dig in. m but Yeah, I don't know, man. it it was just It was really enjoyable. A lot of family time. on a i just It was a good mix of of everything that I love. so Now it's all back to back to the grind. C'est la vie.
00:07:03
Denis Tyrell
Yes, that's life.
00:07:05
echo_blades
It is life. It is life.
00:07:07
Denis Tyrell
Well, yeah, I was back to work today too. But of course I worked all week last week and all weekend, so...
00:07:14
echo_blades
I... I had a very, very loud fuck you outburst. I was just like, fuck that guy. And somebody's like, what are you talking about?
00:07:26
echo_blades
I'm just talking about my retired friend who doesn't fucking have a real life anymore. But yeah, whatever. I'm envious.
00:07:33
Denis Tyrell
What, you did you did that at work today?
00:07:36
echo_blades
I did that. I did an outward fuck that guy. And they're like, what? I'm like, I'm just thinking about my retired friend who thinks I'm out to bamboozle him by... giving him things to do that he loves to do and quit working for.
00:07:47
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, first I'm your sharpening bitch.
00:07:48
echo_blades
Yourself
00:07:49
Denis Tyrell
Now I'm your surface grinding bitch.
00:07:52
echo_blades
is grinding, bitch. Yeah. You're just my my good, dear buddy, old pal.
00:07:57
Denis Tyrell
All right.
00:07:58
echo_blades
That's it. And I super appreciate you. Happy, happy new year.
00:08:02
Denis Tyrell
You too. Happy New Year. Already the 5th. It's going to be the 6th when you guys hear this. Crazy.
00:08:10
echo_blades
Yeah, it is crazy.
00:08:12
Denis Tyrell
Crazy. I got to take my son, Logan, for his driving test tomorrow. So I'll be gone in the morning, but hopefully he'll get his license and then we'll have someone else would do some driving in the house.
00:08:25
Denis Tyrell
Not that like I ever go anywhere, but...
00:08:26
echo_blades
Nice. was going to say, it'd be very minimal amount of work for him, for you anyways.
00:08:29
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:08:33
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. But I had a pretty good week last week. I did that class with the two ladies and that was fun.
00:08:42
echo_blades
who
00:08:44
Denis Tyrell
I think I talked about that last week. And then um then we had New Year's.
00:08:46
echo_blades
You did.
00:08:52
Denis Tyrell
I got to hear from Parker. Actually, that was Sunday. It was yesterday. Got to hear from Parker. He gave me a call. So that was good. Things are going well at boot camp for him.
00:09:05
echo_blades
Nice.
00:09:06
Denis Tyrell
um Got to hear all the woes of shit happening, but he's still in good spirit, so that's good.
00:09:13
echo_blades
Nice.
00:09:13
Denis Tyrell
But had a class all weekend. um You know, honestly, um the last couple classes I've had have been just like people dipping their toe, but not someone like interested in the hobby.
00:09:26
echo_blades
Mm-hmm.
00:09:30
Denis Tyrell
like someone who wants to go further in knife making. But Brandon this weekend, i he he's like one of those guys that loves forging fire, has already got a forge, hasn't really cranked it up yet.
00:09:46
Denis Tyrell
But it was he was super enthusiastic, very excited to make a knife. So it was good to have that kind of student in the shop again. So yet yeah, it was fun.
00:09:55
echo_blades
That's cool.
00:09:58
Denis Tyrell
It was fun. We had a terrible warp on his knife though. Like the worst warp I've had a student.
00:10:02
echo_blades
Oh.
00:10:04
Denis Tyrell
And this is like, we were not, we were, we were not grinding pre-heat treat.
00:10:08
echo_blades
What did he make like a hunter? Oh. Huh.
00:10:10
Denis Tyrell
No, we made a chef knife, like a little one, like a, probably like a, maybe a six inch petty knife or something like that.
00:10:12
echo_blades
oh
00:10:17
Denis Tyrell
But it was full thickness, the whole thing. I, I seriously don't, I am mystified why it worked besides the fact that it was thin, but it warped. Exactly the same way, like during normalization, grain refinement, it always wanted to warp in one direction.
00:10:35
Denis Tyrell
But it was bizarre. It was full thickness ground on the surface grinder. It was very weird.
00:10:40
echo_blades
you it was It wasn't forged?
00:10:43
Denis Tyrell
It was forged, but we normalized it, then the grain refine, you know, and then again, all it was all surface ground flat. That's what was mystifying to me, that it just kept warping in the same way.
00:10:56
echo_blades
Huh.
00:10:57
Denis Tyrell
Like it probably had a like a quarter inch bow on it, like sitting on the handle.
00:11:04
echo_blades
In the tip or
Visiting Evan's Shop for Insights
00:11:06
echo_blades
like towards the tip or like right in the middle?
00:11:08
Denis Tyrell
No, the whole thing, the like the whole blade, it was it was propped up like a quarter inch, um like tip to tip to the end of the handle.
00:11:15
echo_blades
Oh, from tips so right in the middle. Yeah, yeah.
00:11:19
Denis Tyrell
The whole thing was a big arc, at least a quarter inch off the handle.
00:11:21
echo_blades
Wow.
00:11:24
Denis Tyrell
Bizarre.
00:11:25
echo_blades
Wow, that is weird.
00:11:27
Denis Tyrell
It took me 25 minutes with a carbide hammer to straighten it, but it came out perfectly straight.
00:11:27
echo_blades
Did you?
00:11:34
echo_blades
Okay, well, that's good.
00:11:34
Denis Tyrell
So carbide hammer for the win.
00:11:37
echo_blades
There you go.
00:11:39
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:11:40
echo_blades
Very cool.
00:11:41
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. But yeah, it was fun having on the show.
00:11:42
echo_blades
I mean, that's not cool, but that that's I guess that's good to have when you're with a a teacher that can fix it instead of being your lonesome and fucking getting on picked off and struggling with it.
00:11:44
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:11:55
Denis Tyrell
Right. And I, and I, I told them this story like that, you know, you should be happy that this happened because I'm now going to teach you how to fix it. Um, and that's a pretty bad warp. Uh, probably one of the worst warps I've had, um, on a knife.
00:12:14
echo_blades
Yeah, I think that's pretty good too.
00:12:14
Denis Tyrell
And I,
00:12:15
echo_blades
So if you were able to save it and fix it, then you know that some people might have gave up and tossed it. yeah Started over and over.
00:12:24
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, no, he was he was a little discouraged. I said, nah, nah, don't worry. We're going to fix this. And we did.
00:12:30
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, so came on came out good.
00:12:30
echo_blades
Nice.
00:12:32
echo_blades
Local guy?
00:12:34
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, fair Fairfield. um Not Fairfield. What's up there? um
00:12:42
echo_blades
Vacaville?
00:12:43
Denis Tyrell
Vacaville. Thank you. Yeah, Vacaville.
00:12:47
echo_blades
Very cool.
00:12:47
Denis Tyrell
So yeah, not far. Like what, 45 minutes an hour or something like that?
00:12:51
echo_blades
Yeah. Something like that although that. That area always seems closer than it actually is.
00:12:56
Denis Tyrell
yeah that is true actually no yeah
00:12:58
echo_blades
There's like no good way to get there. It's like you got to go over bridges and or back roads that take forever. And yeah, it's like the Sacramento airport for me. It's like it feels like it should be closer, but it's it's not.
00:13:10
Denis Tyrell
yeah but um we also had some fun um we had a little excursion
00:13:12
echo_blades
Hmm.
00:13:15
echo_blades
what did you guys what did you at him What did you hammer out thatnipe with
00:13:20
Denis Tyrell
Oh, well, of course we, and we spoke about it quite a lot during the class. We, uh, we're using the two bastards straight peen hammer. Um, we were using that one. Um, and, uh,
00:13:36
Denis Tyrell
hammering that thing out so if you guys need a hammer for all of your smithing needs go check out um ah two bastards texas smithian supplies go talk to frank tell him you need a peen tell him you need a ah fat peen in your hand
00:13:50
echo_blades
at pain yeah now
00:13:54
Denis Tyrell
now so that's what we need fat peens all around
00:14:01
echo_blades
mm-hmm because it it it is grand to have one in your hand 100% frankenpens frankenpens that's pretty cool yes we did
00:14:06
Denis Tyrell
Yes.
00:14:12
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. But we had a little adventure last week, didn't we?
00:14:18
echo_blades
We went up and...
00:14:18
Denis Tyrell
First...
00:14:19
echo_blades
Go ahead.
00:14:20
Denis Tyrell
i was going to say first we did a little forging because we knew we were going up to Evan's place. um Down to Evan's place? West? Whatever. But before that...
00:14:30
echo_blades
Oh, hold on.
00:14:30
Denis Tyrell
we
00:14:31
echo_blades
Hold on. I had the know awesome, awesome experience on our way down or up, whatever you want to say.
00:14:43
echo_blades
to where we were, we had just went and had breakfast and we were heading up back onto the freeway and this little area, apparently Dennis got all turned around, but I had ah the great privilege to tell him you're on the short bus.
00:15:00
echo_blades
He was right and wrong all at the same time. it was ah it was one of the like rare opportunities you get to tell, no, you're right, you dumb ass.
00:15:11
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:15:11
echo_blades
He thought he was going north. He thought he was going south, but thought he was going north. But we were actually going the right way. And he was just all turned the fuck around.
00:15:21
Denis Tyrell
Yes.
00:15:22
echo_blades
And I was like, when I looked at him, I'm like, dude, I get to tell you that you're fucking stupid, but you're you're right. It was awesome. I enjoyed that. So anyways, yes, it's south.
00:15:32
Denis Tyrell
Yes.
00:15:33
echo_blades
It's down.
00:15:34
Denis Tyrell
yes But we knew we were going, so we I suggested that... um i Actually, it was in last week's episode that I said, hey, let's do a stainless San Mai.
00:15:45
Denis Tyrell
So we um spent the day before at my shop doing that. And then we brought those to Evan's shop at... I have like a brain fart for the name of his forge. Enceladus Forge?
00:16:03
Denis Tyrell
Okay.
00:16:04
echo_blades
It's in Gladius in my mind forever, but whatever.
00:16:05
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I know. but your Your mind is broken. Yeah.
00:16:08
echo_blades
Yes, it is. And you could tell my mind is broken because we spent all that day forging, heat treating, doing that knife. And then um all I had to do was take it home and temper it, which I promptly forgot to do and had to do it for while I was there.
00:16:30
echo_blades
I didn't even work on it while i was there, but there's more to that. So I'm excited about that.
00:16:34
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:16:38
Denis Tyrell
so his shop's pretty cool uh it's a beautiful location up in the Santa Cruz mountains uh just such a picturesque part of California
00:16:48
echo_blades
We saw Jesus, dude. Remember? He came right through right through the trees. It was beautiful. I even told Lynn, I showed her the picture later on that night. I was like, look, I saw Jesus today. Look, this clearly him.
00:17:01
echo_blades
He's clearly right here in front of us. Cold.
00:17:03
Denis Tyrell
It was a very misty day, ah kind of rainy, misty, but sunny. And the mist was coming through the clouds and the sun was coming down through it.
00:17:09
echo_blades
cold
00:17:13
Denis Tyrell
It was, don't know.
00:17:14
echo_blades
Oh, fun fact. He he literally, his shop was just up the street from where I spent my birthday moon charging. Literally, like just down the road.
00:17:26
echo_blades
Like had I known, I would have reached out and stopped by. That would have been, it's almost criminal that I didn't know how close I was to him that time. But
Inspiration from Knife Makers
00:17:34
echo_blades
yeah, beautiful area.
00:17:34
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, probably quarter mile or something, if that.
00:17:37
echo_blades
Yeah, if that.
00:17:39
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:17:40
echo_blades
Very cool.
00:17:41
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. But he's got cool shops, got a granny room. because He's got a big mill. Big mill. And yeah, tons of knives in progress. This man has more knives in progress than you do. I was very surprised.
00:17:59
echo_blades
I didn't get that vibe, but I guess now that I'm thinking about it, he I didn't go through the drawers.
00:18:00
Denis Tyrell
Evan.
00:18:02
Denis Tyrell
You go through those drawers?
00:18:05
echo_blades
That's that's rude. But i saw now that I think about it, I saw him going through those.
00:18:06
Denis Tyrell
No, no, as in he showed us. Yeah, that's what I mean.
00:18:09
echo_blades
Yeah. I'm just being an asshole. But yeah. No. that Now that I think about it when you say that, yeah, he had he had quite a bit of stuff. Yeah.
00:18:16
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, shit ton of knives. Like, oh, yeah, I'm working on these and I'm working on these. And yeah my yeah, my OCD was tripping how much he had on the go. that I'm freaking out that I got four on the go right now and it's driving me nuts.
00:18:35
echo_blades
Wow, that's fucking child's play, buddy.
00:18:38
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I know. those are Those are rookie numbers for you.
00:18:42
echo_blades
Mm-hmm. And my buddy Evan, apparently.
00:18:44
Denis Tyrell
um Yeah, you guys were doing kind of chef knife thingy, um talking about chef knives. I was using the mill, which was a challenge because I've never actually used a mill without a DRO.
00:18:59
Denis Tyrell
um just i've never had I've only ever used my mill, and then using someone else's mill without a DRO took me like, four times longer because everything is like okay you got to count the number of rotations of the dial and it's just well i see why dros are popular but uh
00:19:21
echo_blades
So I took a video of you. I just texted it to you i meant to send it to you earlier, but yeah, the, I was, just ah around the corner from you basically. And I turned around and I, i was waiting for the, for fuck's sakes to come popping out.
00:19:35
echo_blades
But ah yeah, he, Dennis was, he was very, very, very, very concentrated on trying to figure out how to do, do the milling process without the DRO. And it was hilarious to me. I took a video. I'm like, Oh, he's struggling.
00:19:51
Denis Tyrell
I was milling the shoulders on that knife and then milling the slot in a guard. And it turns out that's pretty hard with a DRO. But I can mean, I got it done.
00:20:01
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:20:02
Denis Tyrell
But it was like, with a DRO, you can look away and then look back and go, yeah, I was at 200,000. But without the DRO, you have to remember how, and I'm not good at like, so i you have to be like super concentrated counting how many you do.
00:20:24
Denis Tyrell
I'm surprised you didn't get a video of me talking to myself. I thought for sure you were going to do that.
00:20:30
echo_blades
I don't know if you were talking to yourself or not. I didn't, I felt weird recording you, but yeah, I, I did notice that. Yeah.
00:20:37
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:20:38
Denis Tyrell
Cause,
00:20:38
echo_blades
I have had a mill since about six months into making, I found a ah deal when I was watching, um, what's his name?
00:20:50
echo_blades
The guy that I first started watching red beard ops.
00:20:54
Denis Tyrell
James.
00:20:55
echo_blades
James. Yeah. He had a, uh, the, uh, the Harbor freight bench top and, um, with no DRO, but, uh, I saw him using it and, uh, I was just doing the marketplace thing and I found one for, i think I got that thing for like 200 bucks and it was like basically brand new. The guy only used it to do a handful of things with, uh, wood for some reason.
00:21:21
echo_blades
And I remember just, yeah.
00:21:22
Denis Tyrell
I don't remember you having a mill. I know you had a little lathe, but
00:21:25
echo_blades
I have that lathe. The lathe was given to me sometime after. But yeah, I've i've had a mill this whole time. um And I never use it. Not even for drilling like a dumbass.
00:21:36
Denis Tyrell
I don't even know where it is in your shop.
00:21:39
echo_blades
It's under one of those fancy little cover things I have.
00:21:42
Denis Tyrell
Oh,
00:21:43
echo_blades
I've set it up. where I got a ah vice for it. And Jeff and I were going to, as soon as I got to a point where I was going to live where it is now. So I should probably do that. But because of the DRO situation, like I haven't.
00:22:01
echo_blades
So i I understand what you're saying, because there's my scattered ass brain. i mean, you got to see how long, i how many times I'll take a measurement with calipers, you know, like 50 times, you know, like, what was it? What was it? What was it? What was it? I i would get, so i would fuck it up. So I understand.
00:22:21
echo_blades
But yeah, that, that added that to my.
00:22:21
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, you're going to blow through hundreds of dollars in tooling because you're...
00:22:27
echo_blades
In material.
00:22:27
Denis Tyrell
Snap!
00:22:28
echo_blades
yeah Yeah. Even that though, like. Cause I use the, the mills at Jeff shop and those are big bridge boards. And i think it's Cincinnati is the other one.
00:22:40
echo_blades
And those are like a breeze. There's nothing to them. Yeah. So if you're set up right, it's a <unk> a very simple or it's a lot easier. I should say not simple, but so I understand.
00:22:49
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:22:51
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:22:53
Denis Tyrell
but I got it done. It was fun. It's a nice mill. You can definitely feel the, it has that, like the weight, like where my mill, it's a good mill, Precision Matthews, but it just doesn't have mass that his mill has, which is like a giant knee mill.
00:23:10
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:14
Denis Tyrell
So yeah, it was a tank.
00:23:15
echo_blades
If you need some tooling for, for your mill, your drills, uh, you know, whatever you need, you should go check out, uh, maritime knife supply. Lawrence Lake, uh, will take care of you. He's got everything you need for knife making from like, we were just saying, tooling, abrasives, uh, grinders, steel, um, whatever, whatever you need. He's got you covered, um, over at maritime knife supply. So, uh,
00:23:40
echo_blades
go check it out. Tell him the boys at Triple T said what's up and put yourself an order in and he'll get it to you. Super lickety split.
00:23:50
Denis Tyrell
yuper um But tell me about your experience at Evan's shop. I know you were, you were geeking out over all the chef knife stuff.
00:24:01
echo_blades
Yeah. So I had, i think this is kind of,
00:24:06
echo_blades
anyways, it's all kind of fallen in the line, right? So, yeah you know, you have this, this point where I was falling out of the the interest. I was actually scared for a little while that I was going to, that this was going to become one of the many things that I've, you know, dove into, you know, completely and then don't do anymore.
00:24:26
echo_blades
Um, it would be the most expensive one that I've done, but I guess I am, I am very, very much invested in this thing. But, uh, they as the weeks have progressed over the last month or so getting back in and then starting to do it and you know, the orders and, you know, getting a little money and, And then just to like the, the, the cherry on the top was, was really this, this weekend for me because yeah. Um, to say that I geeked out would be an understatement. Um, I have a, a very, uh, my interest lies in, in culinary knives.
00:25:04
echo_blades
Uh, that's where I find the most enjoyment. That's what I want to do. Um, I seem to take to that more and I was, um, who always liked what he's done.
00:25:17
echo_blades
And that's what was my main objective was to, you know, when I suggested us going over there so I could kind of see his, his processes and operations. And, ah I was super stoked though. Cause, uh, basically we all have a guy, right.
00:25:31
echo_blades
You know, somebody that you look up to and you're, you're following and kind of leads you down the road. And and for him was, was Don Nguyen. Um, And I remember in the beginning of my YouTube consumption, um you know, diving into all of Don's YouTube stuff.
00:25:49
echo_blades
And it just kind of like we were telling the story, too, with like our our experience from my experience at Makers Camp when Marekko was forging and doing that whole thing. I just wasn't ready.
00:26:01
echo_blades
to to like get all of that information. Like i've I've watched it. I got it. I just, most of it was over my head, but this time at this moment, talking with Evan, seeing his knives, you know, the biggest thing for me was just like how thin his edges were.
00:26:17
echo_blades
And I was so just like, motivated, inspired. And then we started jibber jabbing and talking about, you know, convexing and, cause I've always had this thing with, um, convex being very poorly explained to me, I guess, or, or,
00:26:36
echo_blades
My interpretation of it, not quite. i always thought there was more to it. So when we're talking about knife geometry, edge geometry and stuff like that, the way he was explaining it to me just had me all just fired up. So I got to the funny part was I brought that sand my knife.
00:26:56
echo_blades
That was I was going to work on that, but I never I didn't temper it. And then I had this other like this little petty knife that I have forged a while back. And, um, I grounded out a little bit on, uh, on Thursday or whatever that was. And we get there and I couldn't find the knife.
00:27:16
echo_blades
It was gone. ah It had been in my bag. i was for sure it was in there. um I start tearing the whole thing apart and and I can't find it. So, den you know, Dennis is looking at me like you idiot. Like, what'd you do? Where'd you leave it? You know? And I, it was a hundred percent that I, it was either at your shop or um it like fell out of my car or, you know, like from my house, you know, fell out of my bag or something. I'll be son of a bitch though. If I didn't, for the, one of the first times I came home that night,
00:27:46
echo_blades
And I walked in the shop and obviously didn't temper the knife, but I took my tongs and my welding gloves and And I put them back where they went.
00:27:57
echo_blades
Just so happens that my fucking knife was in between my two welding gloves. And I sat down and I searched all over for this fucking knife.
00:28:08
echo_blades
And ah so I was a bit bummed that I didn't get to, because that was in a perfect spot. It had shoulders cut in. It was ready. Like it would have been perfect to kind of go back and forth with him on the grinder and me on the grinder type of thing.
00:28:18
echo_blades
Um, so anyways, long story short. Yeah. I geeked the fuck out. Um, I got to watch him grind a knife, uh, reaffirm some old things that I had learned. Um, and, and in turn, I ended up, uh, like re, uh, binge watching a lot of Don's, uh, videos, uh, the next day. Um, and yeah, like my mind is,
00:28:46
echo_blades
just consumed right now with, with this, uh, this whole process here. So, um, I'm jazzed up now.
00:28:51
Denis Tyrell
Good.
00:28:52
echo_blades
I mean, I, I learned ah a ton, um, probably forgot more than i did learn, but the, uh, you know, the, uh, the desire to just kind of want to get back out there and go and go. I just, it's been a while since I had that. So, you know, like I ground, I went back, I found that knife, I reground it or went back to it, tried to get it thin, fucked up some stuff and, um, uh, fixed it. And, um, I ended up, uh, grinding a ah paring knife out. Um, heat treated two knives, uh,
00:29:28
echo_blades
finished up a hand sanding on a chef knife that I have did the handles for that, the fronts. Uh, so now I just got to etch that and, and glue it up. Um, and, uh, yeah, it was really cool.
00:29:41
echo_blades
And then I went and joined, uh, the Don's Patreon so I can get the, the super insider scoop. So,
00:29:48
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Very cool.
00:29:49
echo_blades
Yeah. I mean, I'm, it was exactly what I needed. And, you know, you never know when that's, that, that time is going to happen or, you know, when you're going to do that. So Evan dude, thank you, man. It was, it was fantastic. I, you know, whether you saw it or not, dude, I was, it's like a kid a candy shop, just, just watching and talking. And was probably like starting to get a little self-conscious that I was like, Oh yeah. What about this? What about that? What about this? but about Cause I, there was, could have did it,
00:30:18
echo_blades
you know, all day. And, and I didn't have anything to work on too. So I was kind of like his little shadow. It's kind of sad. And you're.
00:30:25
Denis Tyrell
Well, it's actually it's probably good because he's only got the one grinder, so I don't know that you guys could have both worked in there.
00:30:33
echo_blades
Yeah, no disrespect, but fuck you.
00:30:33
Denis Tyrell
on
00:30:35
echo_blades
One grinder shop. People can go fuck off. I know that is some bougie ass thing to say, but Holy crap, man. What a fucking bullshit.
00:30:47
echo_blades
Like, yeah I don't know how else to say that except, yeah, it, yeah, totally, totally.
00:30:51
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, don't we sound elitist now.
00:30:55
echo_blades
And I, I'll take every bit of heat that's coming my way, but man, does two of everything make things twice as cool.
00:31:03
Denis Tyrell
yeah for sure
00:31:06
echo_blades
Yeah. So yeah, dude, it was a fantastic time and I just, I'm, I'm reeling right now. So.
00:31:13
Denis Tyrell
i'm glad i didn't bring anything that needed like focused on grinding because we would have been screwed i was all mill and uh um setting the guard on that handle which uh
00:31:20
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:31:26
echo_blades
Yeah. I almost felt a little bad because I know, you know, I'm sure, i don't know this to be a hundred percent true, but I'm sure that in his mind, he was trying to pick your brain about more, you know, stuff. And I kind of bogarted all this time with, with my, uh,
00:31:44
Denis Tyrell
I didn't get that. um Cause I was kind of doing my own thing, but um
00:31:48
echo_blades
Yeah, really you were, it was like, we were two different groups. like
00:31:50
Denis Tyrell
yeah yeah, well I was going as like support, but I don't do a lot of, you know, that I don't do a lot of culinary stuff.
00:31:57
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:31:58
Denis Tyrell
So I don't know what he was picking my brain about cause we're in very different lanes, but um yeah, I mean, he's definitely, you know, awesome culinary maker.
00:32:13
Denis Tyrell
So and I don't know that I can help him with any of that, but um he does do some other things as well.
00:32:13
echo_blades
For sure.
00:32:20
Denis Tyrell
I mean, he you know, he's working on that he's got that pizza sword, which I thought was really cool, and some other things, but still in the culinary realm.
00:32:27
echo_blades
Yeah, but he was starting to forge and doing some Damascus and stuff like that, you know, so.
00:32:29
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:32:32
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:32:33
echo_blades
But yeah.
00:32:33
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, if we if we were in, yeah, discussing Damascus or something like that, but we just weren't set up to do that at his shop that that day.
00:32:42
echo_blades
So. Absolutely.
00:32:43
Denis Tyrell
but yeah, it was good. Evan, thank you for having us. Yeah, it was it was good fun.
00:32:46
echo_blades
Absolutely.
00:32:47
Denis Tyrell
So come on down to Livermore sometime and we'll we'll do some forging and, you know, do something else.
00:32:56
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:32:57
Denis Tyrell
Get all us.
00:32:57
echo_blades
Well, kind of.
00:32:57
Denis Tyrell
Maybe we'll make some mosaic or something like that and
Shop Updates and Creative Projects
00:33:02
echo_blades
There you go.
00:33:03
Denis Tyrell
do something cool.
00:33:06
Denis Tyrell
But yeah, but it was good. I had a good time.
00:33:10
echo_blades
Yeah, it was cool.
00:33:10
Denis Tyrell
um That was... I did, I haven't made a stainless San Mai in a while. ah that Sorry, I made a stainless San Mai, don't know, a couple of months ago, but it was a chef knife.
00:33:20
echo_blades
Oh, this is good.
00:33:24
Denis Tyrell
It was full tang, and I've totally forgot that, um ah so I'm trying to hammer on the guard to a stainless San Mai, and I'm kind of forgetting that...
00:33:38
Denis Tyrell
the Ricasso area right it's a stainless San Mai so it's got 416 stainless which is not hardened and I'm trying to hammer on a guard and it keeps mushrooming the Ricasso because it's soft steel because it's 416.
00:33:55
Denis Tyrell
it was giving me angst I I was I was this borderline yeah I was getting upset and the guard material was a chunk of stainless Damascus that um that one of the pieces that um i made when koi was here so it's like not replaceable so i didn't really want to fuck that up on this um but i mean i got it to work there's no gaps is it the absolute best fit up i've ever done no but it it is it's the best fit up i could get with uh with the material at hand
00:33:59
echo_blades
There was some for fuck's sakes coming. Yeah.
00:34:20
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:34:34
Denis Tyrell
But I mean, i think I think it looks great. No one would complain about the fit up, but it was a pain in the ass. There was a lot of sanding, a lot of fixing, and yeah, a lot of swearing.
00:34:47
echo_blades
Yeah, for sure.
00:34:48
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:34:48
echo_blades
it was fun.
00:34:50
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:34:50
echo_blades
i enjoyed it.
00:34:53
Denis Tyrell
um But I did get a bunch of shop time today. I'm back at this folder. Yeah. I did, I was ready to finish this Kuma folder that I'm working on.
00:35:05
Denis Tyrell
And then I thought, I don't know why i just got a bug up my ass about, I wanted to do some new file work on the liners. So, um, tried some totally new file work that, um,
00:35:20
echo_blades
Like something that you made up or you'd seen or...
00:35:23
Denis Tyrell
I have, I've seen it before. Um, that, um, I think it looks really cool. you'll I'll there'll probably probably be an Instagram video of it tomorrow. It's hard to describe, but, um, I tried it. I have a, a diamond.
00:35:41
Denis Tyrell
I don't even know how to describe it. It's like a, like a U shape thing and it's about one inch and it's like almost like a cone. Anyway, I was trying to do with that. utter failure and then I'm like why don't I just do this on the small wheel on the grinder up against a rest and then it was like an aha moment and then finished it with some diamond files so I think it came out really really cool so I'm anxious to put this one together um just finished sanding the handles so I got to do some final work and anodize the liners and the bolsters tomorrow
00:36:17
Denis Tyrell
and etched the blade. So she should be pretty much done tomorrow. But same same model that I did um last month in that same one, but this one is like a Kumai blade.
00:36:24
echo_blades
Cool. Cool.
00:36:31
Denis Tyrell
So yeah, it's coming out pretty nice. I'm happy with it. So this will be my new folder model that I'll probably start to do some more on.
00:36:43
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. And then onto that frigging sword. But now I've got this one that we did Sanmai that I'm going to want to finish. And, and now this one with the Hamon that I was working on in the class this weekend. So too many on the go, man, I got to get rid of some of these.
00:37:02
echo_blades
Child's play. Absolute child's play.
00:37:04
Denis Tyrell
And I got to get back to the sword and, grind the bevels on that sword. So everything's got to make some progress. I'm hoping to have a really productive week this week.
00:37:17
echo_blades
Very cool.
00:37:18
Denis Tyrell
yeah um um Yeah, I'm kind of raring to go. i want ah i want to get back into the shop and get some of these builds going, get some more up on the website, and get some of these sold.
00:37:33
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. I got to train a new shop assistant this weekend. That should be fun. um A friend of mine, like a really good friend of mine, his son, who I've known for years, ever since he was little, he's going to be my new shop assistant.
00:37:53
Denis Tyrell
And he's pretty jazzed about working in the shop. So,
00:37:58
echo_blades
Very cool.
00:37:59
Denis Tyrell
yeah, so that'll be fun. We've got to do sharpening attachments this weekend.
00:38:05
Denis Tyrell
And I did find they will, i'm not going to, jinx it yet but they will be carried on a new website pretty soon i'll let you guys know next week so that'll be exciting maybe some more sales on those
00:38:21
echo_blades
You're doing a new website. Oh, I gotcha.
00:38:22
Denis Tyrell
no no no they're going to be sale on a new website so yeah yeah yeah so what's coming up for you
00:38:23
echo_blades
yeah Yeah. Yeah. I'm following you. I'm following you. Okay.
00:38:28
echo_blades
Very cool. I love that.
00:38:36
echo_blades
Um,
00:38:40
echo_blades
I am working again, so my life's going to suck.
00:38:45
Denis Tyrell
Just back to work, huh?
00:38:46
echo_blades
It's just back to work. No, i like I said, I got, uh, I mean, it's a the age. yeah Nothing ever changes here because I do have a lot of things on the go, but there'll be a some things rolling out in a big bunch here.
00:39:04
echo_blades
So I got, I think, four or five of them here at the homestretch. I got to do some etching, though. So when I get this, ah um find a time to sit down and I'm going to etch three together.
00:39:16
Denis Tyrell
What are you going to answer, them
00:39:17
echo_blades
I'm going to go with um my homeboy, ah Mr. Coy Baker, and the Gator Piss um line. We're using the heavy and and the OG blend. I don't have any stainless right now, but if ah you're in the ah market for some premium pattern welded steel, some premium etchant, etchant,
00:39:44
echo_blades
you an etcding sketch If you need an action sketch.
00:39:44
Denis Tyrell
Some premium ant shit? premium aunt shit Is that what you said?
00:39:52
echo_blades
I don't think I said ant shit, but I wish I did. You just got to follow the Triple T process, you know, clean it, etch it, and protect it. You can ah clean it up with the the Grime Reaper, etch it with Gator Piss, and protect it with the Gator Skin.
00:40:08
echo_blades
um And I think we did last week's drop, ah or this this the latest drop ahead of time here, so we're kind of doubled up right now, but um the ah the Gradient Gomai, or did you add that?
00:40:21
Denis Tyrell
No, I just added it.
00:40:23
echo_blades
Oh, okay. Good. Because I was like, this looks like something from Natalie. But yeah, so this week they got ah um a new pattern, a gradient gomai in ripple and ladder. um So...
00:40:34
echo_blades
Download the, if you don't already, if you haven't already done so, download the bigger fortune tool app to get early access next week on, on their future drops and get yourself, if there's any left, this gradient go my, or get on board for, for what's coming up in the next couple days here.
00:40:56
echo_blades
You can use the discount code triple T 10 for all of these amazing products and get 10% off.
00:40:56
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, it's cool.
00:41:03
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, it's pretty cool pattern. It uses some of the gradient techniques we've been talking about over the last while from Marekko and Peter Swersberg.
00:41:08
echo_blades
Nice. Yeah.
00:41:15
Denis Tyrell
So, yeah, go check them out.
00:41:16
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, Yeah, and then I got to use my ah my my new Even Heat, custom Even Heat. Did the reveal on that. um
00:41:27
Denis Tyrell
temper.
00:41:27
echo_blades
And if you need a new kiln, you should go check out Even Heat Kilns. Family owned and operated since 1948, building the highest quality knife heat treat ovens available.
00:41:39
echo_blades
Uh, and then in my, uh, elitist status, um, I got to do the, um, heat treat and then just transfer over to the other oven for a temper, which is pretty cool.
00:41:49
Denis Tyrell
emperor
00:41:51
echo_blades
But it did figure out though, that if you're going to temper in those ovens, um, you need to leave the door open just a tad on, uh, because it ramps up too high and it, it'll always overshoot your temper.
00:42:02
Denis Tyrell
Boy.
00:42:08
Denis Tyrell
You know there's a ramp speed that you can adjust?
00:42:12
echo_blades
No. I was talking with, uh, with, um, God damn it. What's his name? I'm fucking, uh, Spencer, um, about this ah at blade show and, um, a couple times, but he was saying that, yeah, they, they're not meant to run at that low temperature.
00:42:31
echo_blades
They have a hard time. They're, they're higher temp ovens. So you can, um, simply just crack, crack your door a little bit and it'll, uh, it holds that, that, uh, that temper, the lower temper, a lot easier.
00:42:45
Denis Tyrell
See, when I do this, I just ramp it up slowly. It takes longer for it to heat, but if you ramp it up at like 600 degrees per hour, so it'll take 45 minutes to get up to whatever, 40 minutes to get up to temp, but it'll go up slowly and then it doesn't overshoot it.
00:43:03
echo_blades
and
00:43:07
echo_blades
Yeah, that's that might be so I didn't that that's beyond my ability to to process. And like I said, I was talking to Spencer and I don't think he even mentioned that. So ah but yeah, I was have always noticed, though, that when I I had a problem before when you have one of and. you heat treat and then it takes forever for the shit to cool down.
00:43:24
Denis Tyrell
Sure.
00:43:24
echo_blades
You can leave the door open, blow the fucking fan into it and then you close it and then it goes right back up to, you know, way hotter than you want.
00:43:26
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that doesn't matter.
00:43:30
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:43:31
echo_blades
So it was still doing it, but, uh, so I just cracked the the door a little bit and it, it would get up and shoot down, but it was staying a lot closer in there. So,
00:43:39
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, because I've even, i have my temper set. With three, I'm gonna geek out folks on ovens for a second, but I have my temper. If I have, if I'm using the oven, like the even heat, I have it set for three segments so that I can temper two rounds overnight and I don't have to touch it.
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00:44:01
Denis Tyrell
It'll ramp up slow to whatever it is, 350, 400, whatever I'm doing. It'll shut off. And it'll go back down to 100. I think I have it set to like 120.
00:44:14
Denis Tyrell
And then it'll ramp back up to 400. And then it'll go back down. And everything happens overnight.
00:44:14
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:44:18
echo_blades
Huh.
00:44:19
Denis Tyrell
And I don't have to do anything.
00:44:20
echo_blades
Huh. ah You're a fucking sharp dude.
00:44:23
Denis Tyrell
ah Because I got tired of like, oh, I got to stay up for four hours.
00:44:24
echo_blades
No.
00:44:27
Denis Tyrell
Or at least two hours to wait for the knife so I could cool it and put it back in for the second round.
00:44:32
echo_blades
put it back in. That's what I did. All
00:44:34
Denis Tyrell
Now I just let it ramp down in the oven, which takes like four hours. But I don't care because it's overnight, so it doesn't matter.
00:44:41
echo_blades
right. Hmm. Well, there you go.
00:44:43
Denis Tyrell
I'm sure you had to program it. It's easy.
00:44:45
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:44:46
Denis Tyrell
But, yeah, get yourself an even heat. They're the best.
00:44:49
echo_blades
Absolutely. Fantastic. I'll tell you those deeper ones too, man. I opened the door and it didn't lose that much. It loses a lot less heat too. I was like, oh, this is great.
00:45:00
echo_blades
Because I'm slow. I like to look at everything. We just talking with Rick about that. yeah but ah
00:45:08
Denis Tyrell
Jared, I'll take a look at this hot steel for 30 seconds before I hit it.
00:45:13
echo_blades
Exactly. Why isn't it moving? Oh, man.
00:45:20
Denis Tyrell
I will be going back to Rick's shop at the end of the month, actually.
00:45:24
echo_blades
I know I'm going to do a hard pass on that one.
00:45:28
Denis Tyrell
i am taking an auto folder class from... My master smith Mike Vagnino he's visiting Rick's shop and taking and he's teaching a course there a bolt to bolster release auto Which I find fascinating so um and I think there's three of us three students and So we'll all be making autos, which is cool.
00:45:41
echo_blades
Very cool.
00:45:52
Denis Tyrell
I haven't made an auto yet.
00:45:53
echo_blades
Very cool.
00:45:54
Denis Tyrell
So I'm anxious to to do that so Yeah, the end of the month
00:45:57
echo_blades
Yeah, that's awesome.
00:46:01
Denis Tyrell
So, which is like now only like, geez, fuck, three weeks away already. It's crazy.
00:46:08
echo_blades
Nice.
00:46:09
Denis Tyrell
The year's already ripping by.
00:46:12
echo_blades
Very cool.
00:46:14
Denis Tyrell
You know what I got in the mail um just the other day? ah
00:46:17
echo_blades
What did you get, sir?
00:46:18
Denis Tyrell
I got, um and I guess when I got my Ameribraid, I told Kevin that I wanted the adjustable rest. And I thought they just forgot, but I guess it was on back order. So I just got the adjustable rest, like that's got whole bunch of different angles. you can You can set it at any angle imaginable.
00:46:41
Denis Tyrell
and But it actually turns out the rest that comes with the Ameribraid is as adjustable as I need and it does both horizontal and vertical so it's awesome but so I was like oh what am I going to do with this rest and then I'm like oh this is awesome I'm going to set one rest at 60 degrees which is what I use a lot for um Jared's giving me the finger I love it.
00:47:11
Denis Tyrell
um I use for like the fronts of handle scales. I just use that angle a lot when I'm doing um false edges on. So I'm like, this is fucking awesome. I'm going to have one rest permanently fixed at that angle and another one because I feel like my life is squaring up rests to grinders like.
00:47:34
Denis Tyrell
but So I'm very excited that now I could just pull a rest out of the holder and swap rests. And I'm there. I'm all about the quick change, baby.
00:47:46
echo_blades
That's so awesome.
00:47:50
Denis Tyrell
If you guys need a grinder, you got to check out the Ameribraid FastMac It is an amazing machine. Super well built, very thought out by a bunch of guys that...
00:48:05
Denis Tyrell
are engineers and knife makers. So go check out the Fastback 2x72 while you're at it. Take a look at the Hyperdisk. It's a disc grinder. it is a buffing tool. It is just any kind of...
00:48:19
Denis Tyrell
usage of something that rotates on a grinder from a fixed position you can swap out tools for it definitely go check it out ameribraid.com and tell them the boys at triple t sent you so go get yourself an ameribraid yeah
00:48:36
echo_blades
Yep. I used the shit out of mine this weekend. And I got a new, uh, I ordered the, the, the spray shit that Evan had. i don't know what it's called, but I'll the adhesive.
00:48:47
Denis Tyrell
this For the disk, oh, the 3M stuff?
00:48:50
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:48:52
Denis Tyrell
What does he use?
00:48:53
echo_blades
It's not three. Um, I can't, i don't know what it is. I'll top my head. Um, yeah.
00:48:56
Denis Tyrell
Oh.
00:48:58
Denis Tyrell
Because I use that maroon stuff.
00:48:59
echo_blades
Maybe I took it.
00:49:01
Denis Tyrell
The can is like maroon or something, and it's from 3M. That's what I'm using these days.
00:49:05
echo_blades
Scotch. It's from Scotch.
00:49:07
Denis Tyrell
Oh, wait.
00:49:07
echo_blades
re Repositionable adhesive spray mount.
00:49:08
Denis Tyrell
I take it.
00:49:13
Denis Tyrell
Maybe that is the same one I'm using.
00:49:13
echo_blades
So.
00:49:16
Denis Tyrell
Now I don't remember.
00:49:16
echo_blades
No, it's different. That's why I took a picture it and I ordered it.
00:49:17
Denis Tyrell
is it?
00:49:19
echo_blades
So I haven't tried it yet, but.
00:49:19
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, i'm pretty sure I'm using the 3M stuff. So let me know how that goes.
00:49:22
echo_blades
Yeah, you're using the the actual shit. It works. what you would yeah Yeah, that's what I've been using since the the feathering stuff was gone. And then I left my Elmer glue stick out over the summer with the cap off. It just just melted and shit. Because that shit works good, too. Just like a regular Elmer ah glue stick.
00:49:43
Denis Tyrell
ahha
00:49:43
echo_blades
um But yeah, it it doesn't work if you don't cover it.
00:49:46
Denis Tyrell
If it's dried out, it doesn't work.
00:49:48
echo_blades
If it's dry, it's so bad. i I looked at I was like, this looks weird. And I put it against the thing and the entire glue stick went, wow, shot across the fucking thing like a big clock, like a loogie fucking Spider-Man rope.
00:50:04
echo_blades
If anybody gets the Spider-Man rope, please tell me. I need someone to be dysfunctional like I am, but I was Spider-Man and shit Elmer Fletcher. That's what I was doing. Yes. Goodness gracious.
00:50:16
echo_blades
That's so good.
00:50:19
Denis Tyrell
What were you doing? Did you shop?
00:50:22
echo_blades
that's that's what i was doing
00:50:22
Denis Tyrell
You had Spider-Man hands in your shop?
00:50:23
echo_blades
if yes ah goodness gracious that's so good
00:50:29
Denis Tyrell
i I was ready in the shop today. i was taking apart that folder and I was ready to punch a hole in the wall. um I'm sitting in my stool.
00:50:42
Denis Tyrell
And I'm trying to put the stop pin, which is an eighth inch pin, and it's probably a quarter inch long. And I'm trying to put the stop pin in and I drop it and I kind of catch it in my lap, but then it falls between my legs. And then I can, so it it was kind of at my knees and then I hear it hit the ground. So it's only fallen maybe 18 inches.
00:51:09
Denis Tyrell
You think I could fucking find that thing? it was so mad it was like down on my hands and knees looking around the shop for 20 minutes and the thing it dropped 18 18 inches and it went about five feet so fuck
00:51:30
echo_blades
good thing I wasn't around to fucking Spider-Man you all over the place crawling around.
00:51:33
Denis Tyrell
yeah it was It had bounced, like you know where blo my shop setup is. I'm miss sitting at the table. it It bounced 18, like it fell 18 inches, and it was behind the Ameribraid grinder by the wall.
00:51:50
Denis Tyrell
Like I don't know how it fell that far.
00:51:50
echo_blades
Oh, geez. Oh, I was there.
00:51:53
Denis Tyrell
No, no, this just happened today.
00:51:55
echo_blades
Oh, it did the same thing to you the other day.
00:51:56
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, yeah. did Same fucking thing the other day.
00:51:57
echo_blades
yeah. Yeah, yeah that's hilarious.
00:51:59
Denis Tyrell
That's why I was mad.
00:52:01
echo_blades
Oh, that's great.
00:52:02
Denis Tyrell
there's Those grinding those little things again is just a pain in the ass. So, yeah, there was some there was some swear words coming out of the shop.
00:52:07
echo_blades
Hmm.
00:52:11
echo_blades
That's great. Huh. Well, I need some manzanita handle material.
00:52:19
Denis Tyrell
You know, I've never I've heard of people using that and When I see Manzanita around, it's got that beautiful red color. But every time i've like, oh, that looks really cool.
00:52:29
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:52:31
Denis Tyrell
And I'll break a piece off of it. And I'm like, okay, it's just yellow inside.
00:52:36
echo_blades
Yeah. I have a big, big stump of it that my, um, my old boss gave me that I just, it's, it's beautiful.
00:52:36
Denis Tyrell
But...
00:52:44
echo_blades
Um, it just, I'm not, I'm not a wood processing guy. So, um, that's not going to help me. That'd be too blocky of a handle right now. It's a giant stump, like, and it's it sits,
00:52:55
Denis Tyrell
But how thick is the red part?
00:52:58
echo_blades
I don't know. This is a giant stump. So, but I've seen some, some material ah Kelly, uh, Marivella has, uh, um, that's what I'm thinking of. I got to actually get to reach out to her. She has, um, had a couple of knives at blade show that had, uh, some manzanita with some like glow in the dark, uh, resin thing in there. They were fucking awesome. Um, but I haven't seen any, like, it's not a, like a,
00:53:25
echo_blades
I guess popular or common, um, handle material out there. So if anybody knows a line on those, um, I need to get one. Cause one of those, one of those two knives, uh, custom customer wants a manzanita for, for one of those intrepid.
00:53:40
Denis Tyrell
Because they want the color or because the
00:53:41
echo_blades
So it's just, what do you ask for? he says, I want manzanita handles. So I was like, sure. And then I was like, Oh, I gotta to go find it now.
00:53:49
Denis Tyrell
That's a tough one.
00:53:52
echo_blades
Um, but then the other one is going to get, Grip Tech, or Grip X, for sure. And ah yeah, and this ah in the beginning of this year, are starting now, Matt from ah Grip Tech Composites has got some new things ah rolling out. um He's going to be featuring um a color of the week um for ah or weekly. And you'll be able to take advantage of a ah discounted color or and variation of Grip Tech.
00:54:25
echo_blades
Grip X. And then he's also going to start a ah newsletter, um that you can subscribe to and there'll be an exclusive discount code for the color of the week that is featured.
00:54:39
echo_blades
And ah you can you have the opportunity to to double the discount with your triple T 10 and the weekly. um
00:54:49
Denis Tyrell
Nice.
00:54:50
echo_blades
Yeah. So while that's going, I i highly suggest you you jump on that. So um the first one and released today, which you guys will hear tomorrow is a, is a Navy. So, um and then he's also going to be doing a, yeah like a ah spotlight maker, spotlight type deal. So if you make a knife, send it in and you have the opportunity to, to be featured um on his Instagram page for the maker of the week knife build of the week. So,
00:55:24
echo_blades
um Yeah. Go check out ah Matt at a grip tech composites. um Great handle material. He's got the grip X grip X 3d and a limitless version. I think there's a diamond or something I was looking the other day as well.
00:55:40
echo_blades
um So yeah, go load up your cart. Use the discount code triple T 10, sign up for that newsletter, get a that discount on the, on the color of the week and you can, double dip on some discount for, some awesome material.
00:55:55
Denis Tyrell
I love double dipping.
00:55:55
echo_blades
Cause yeah, that's the best, you know? I mean, and how could you not love a material that is so grippy that you can see it, that you could still feel it even after the stranger?
00:56:08
echo_blades
I'm, I'm, yeah, it's, it's, that's it.
00:56:08
Denis Tyrell
I knew you were going to
00:56:12
echo_blades
So, uh,
00:56:12
Denis Tyrell
Actually, I was reading one of his posts on Instagram right before the podcast and before we recorded. And he was he's asking for a um what animal to use as his mascot.
00:56:26
echo_blades
Oh yeah. yeah
00:56:29
Denis Tyrell
I guess I had the similar thinking of everybody else because the two animals I thought he should use as a gecko or an octopus. So everyone else said the same thing.
00:56:38
echo_blades
Oh, Hmm.
00:56:39
Denis Tyrell
So we're all thinking the same.
00:56:42
echo_blades
Hmm.
00:56:45
echo_blades
I'm coming up empty. So yeah.
00:56:46
Denis Tyrell
Are you? You got nothing?
00:56:48
echo_blades
or not appropriate.
00:56:49
Denis Tyrell
Oh, okay.
00:56:49
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:56:51
Denis Tyrell
That makes sense. You're always not appropriate.
00:56:53
echo_blades
yeah And you know what works really, really good to finish up those ah that GripTech composites is Pelican paste. Pelican oil actually is what I use to shine that stuff up. So ah if you're in the market for some premium wax, ah go check out Travis Haynes at pelicanpaste.com. He's maker of hard wax, soft wax, Pelican oil, hand-solve, and soap, and the butternut cast iron seasoning.
00:57:17
echo_blades
um You could use the discount code TTT10 for 10% off there as well and shine and protect your handle material, your blade, and whatever you need, all kinds of applications for that. So make sure you go do that.
00:57:31
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, i am ah hopefully this week I'm going to finish off two two, maybe three knives. um And yeah, I'll be going through the gambit of gator skin, pelican paste.
00:57:47
Denis Tyrell
And then I'm going to be taking my knives and posting them up on the draw point for sale.
00:57:55
Denis Tyrell
have and getting them out there for people to see and to hear about. So if you're a knife maker or if you're just a knife enthusiast and you want to buy knives, go check out the Drop Point, which is a weekly newsletter.
00:57:55
echo_blades
nice
00:58:10
Denis Tyrell
tell you what's available you can get your drops up there for free so uh it takes no time it's it's as simple as just sending an email so it's a free newsletter built specifically uh to connect makers directly with their consumers so with collectors no no worrying about social media bans or anything like that skip the social media grind and reach your customers directly so uh Go check it out. And it is from the minds of the SCIF workshop. These guys are the experts at building amazing hardware for folders. So go check them out. So I'm going to be posting a few up there myself.
00:58:54
echo_blades
Very cool. You just put all of our listeners inside the spatial audio feature. It was fantastic.
00:58:58
Denis Tyrell
let speak
00:58:59
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:59:00
Denis Tyrell
What does that mean?
00:59:00
echo_blades
You were like, you can go over here and do this and then you can do that and you can get your knife on there and then you're home and you can go down.
00:59:02
Denis Tyrell
um
00:59:07
Denis Tyrell
it's it's the doppler effect
00:59:09
echo_blades
I felt like I was a NASCAR dude. It was fucking great. yeah
00:59:16
Denis Tyrell
okay so don't move around a lot when you're talking well i see you're smiling i couldn't figure out why but now i know
00:59:16
echo_blades
or
00:59:21
echo_blades
Couldn't stop you in the middle. It really fucked you up. but Yeah. Yeah. No, yeah. You just had, I could tell everybody was like, their heads are going to the sound of the left speaker, right speaker.
00:59:33
echo_blades
Full spatial audio ah ad read right there from Dennis Terrell.
00:59:36
Denis Tyrell
this is This is a 3D podcast.
00:59:40
echo_blades
it's a 4d you can get it the time yeah that was awesome dude i just fucking i was like
00:59:52
echo_blades
yeah you know it's fucked up because i was it's not it's not fucked up but i was like trying to put these in here and i'm looking up we've already been yapping for an hour now and
00:59:53
Denis Tyrell
be my sentiment.
01:00:01
echo_blades
ah So, yeah, and we just finished that last one. So we'll try to space those out a little better here or there.
01:00:08
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:00:08
echo_blades
But i let's do Maker Spotlight before I jab on to the next thing.
01:00:15
Denis Tyrell
I have...
01:00:17
echo_blades
Who do you got?
01:00:18
Denis Tyrell
i have I'm going to get prepped here. um Again, I was just going through Instagram, checking things out. I have Foxback Custom Knives. This is all all one word, no spaces, no dots, no bullshit. Foxback Custom Knives. um This is a guy, i don't know actual name, but I just was going through and saw some some cool stuff. Some...
01:00:49
Denis Tyrell
cool knives with homones, a lot of, um, fighter type knives, hunters, uh, just thought some really, really cool stuff. And, uh, yeah, I thought it looked cool. He's only got 244 followers. So I thought we should, uh, pump that up a little. Um, so yeah, go take a look.
01:01:10
echo_blades
Yeah, apparently I was not following him back, but now he's got 245.
01:01:15
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:01:15
echo_blades
Yeah, this has got this has got your...
01:01:15
Denis Tyrell
He's,
01:01:18
echo_blades
I could see this appealing to you. I'm going recurve fighter ah blade shapes. Really cool stuff.
01:01:27
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that those knives, the three in the center, three rows down, the ones from Joshlyn Frazier took the picture.
01:01:27
echo_blades
I like it.
01:01:37
Denis Tyrell
That set looks beautiful. Just cool hormone hormones on those three very distinct looking knives.
01:01:39
echo_blades
Oh, yeah. Yes.
01:01:42
Denis Tyrell
So, yeah.
01:01:43
echo_blades
Yeah. Very cool. That's a good one.
01:01:46
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:01:48
echo_blades
I know.
01:01:49
Denis Tyrell
Had to take a departure from Australians this this week.
01:01:53
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:01:53
Denis Tyrell
So...
01:01:55
echo_blades
You had to come. ah There's there's a a bad joke in there. But...
Personal Stories and Podcast Reflections
01:02:02
Denis Tyrell
It wouldn't stop you.
01:02:02
echo_blades
All right. Yeah, I know. So, well, this week, since I'm all fired up and got ah and full torqued over this weekend, um I thought I would go the other way and shout somebody out that probably doesn't need the extra follower or six followers that we have.
01:02:22
echo_blades
But I got Don Nguyen's... How do say that?
01:02:26
Denis Tyrell
It's win.
01:02:28
echo_blades
It's Wynn.
01:02:28
Denis Tyrell
Win.
01:02:28
echo_blades
Yeah. God, I always want to say Nguyen. I grew up with like a million of these guys and in high school, but, uh, anyway, sorry, John. Uh, yeah. Um, shouting him out. I joined his disc, uh, his, uh, Patreon, um, and listening to, Evan who, uh, has taken the class, which I am highly, uh, considering, um, and probably going to work that in, to my existence here. Um, uh, when, the when the next one comes up, uh,
01:03:01
echo_blades
But yeah, I think we all know him. He's got 44.8 thousand followers, just a powerhouse in the culinary steps. Now getting into into folder knives um as well.
01:03:14
echo_blades
um But just a huge fan of of what he does and going back and watching the old YouTube channels. Just some really cool videos, very informative. And so I just shouting it out.
01:03:32
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, he's definitely a knife making powerhouse when it comes to culinary stuff. And yeah, he sees recently in the folders.
01:03:37
echo_blades
yeah
01:03:39
Denis Tyrell
So that's cool.
01:03:40
echo_blades
yeah just really cool um yeah i can nerd out about it all day but just re-watching those videos was just like oh oh yeah oh yeah yeah yeah i was all that was i was i told you i was full torque spider-man and all over the place so but anyways yeah all right um
01:03:51
Denis Tyrell
Sounds like you're doing something else.
01:03:59
Denis Tyrell
Gross.
01:04:03
Denis Tyrell
All right. um I think I'll finally get out of Triple T this week. Going to be my 2025 recap this week. And then I've got a new build coming next week for Triple T that I think a lot of people will be interested in.
01:04:19
Denis Tyrell
But I'm going to keep you guys in suspense. So stay tuned.
01:04:23
echo_blades
Do I know what it is? Huh?
01:04:25
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, you do.
01:04:27
echo_blades
I won't watch it anyways. So, uh,
01:04:31
Denis Tyrell
you're not Yeah, you're not going to build it, so doesn't matter.
01:04:35
echo_blades
now I know, I know why I'm not going to build it. Fucking jack wagon. Uh, yeah. So, um, couple other things real quick. Uh,
01:04:48
echo_blades
I just came back. I left work, um, right on time. And then I drove to, Martinez. And if you want to waste three hours of your life, go the complete opposite way of your house, which is this whole trip should have took me about an hour and a half, but it was raining traffic. um Yeah, I barely got home at like seven. I left work at three thirty.
01:05:16
echo_blades
But I went to Martinez and I picked up a brand new guitar for for my son. um i
01:05:28
echo_blades
I told you we took it easy on Christmas this year.
01:05:31
Denis Tyrell
Mm-hmm.
01:05:32
echo_blades
So we didn't really get much, but um I had, planned and knew that we were gonna i wanted to do something like this it was either gonna new clubs or or this guitar that he wanted so uh but we scored a pretty awesome uh dean dime bag daryl razorback uh guitar for him i got a steel it's a little little dinged up uh you know not a pristine one but he got it for like half of what the the used market is going for right now um so i went and picked that up for him and brought it home and
01:06:06
echo_blades
Bro, I'll tell you what. the The smile. When I, because i I actually told him that I went to pick it up. um And then he's like, did you get it?
01:06:16
echo_blades
And I was like, no, dude, it was dog shit. I told the guy, that you know, why did you fucking waste my time? You know, three hours of my life.
01:06:21
Denis Tyrell
You're such an ass.
01:06:22
echo_blades
And, you know, I walked in the door and he's like, you know. looked behind and I'm like, I didn't get it, dude. I'm sorry. You know, blah, blah, blah. that And then I went back out to the car and I grabbed it. His his face, man. I'll tell you what, man, it does. it He's 17 now.
01:06:37
echo_blades
And it made me feel like he was like just a little boy when I would come home from work, you know, and they're like happy to see you for once. Yeah.
01:06:44
Denis Tyrell
Good old days.
01:06:45
echo_blades
You're like the hero dude like he was so Lit up man it it was so awesome to To see it so he's already Restrung it came down here and started Jamming and um I'm Pretty stoked for to to be able to do That for him so that was pretty cool um And then I had to get tires This week on two Cars holy shit
01:07:08
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, tires are expensive.
01:07:10
echo_blades
Oh my god i got like middle of the road for Lynn. And that was almost fucking 800, 900 bucks. And then I had to get tires.
01:07:18
Denis Tyrell
was going to say, what, like $150 Yeah. Yeah.
01:07:21
echo_blades
I, yeah, it was like, I think it was like eight something at the door. Um, and then i had to get them for the truck too. Oh my God. It was like two grand.
01:07:32
echo_blades
And then all of this, all of the sensors on my truck, uh, have went out since the last time I got them.
01:07:32
Denis Tyrell
yeah
01:07:39
echo_blades
So, um It's only a two-wheel drive, but I i get like the all-terrain ones because I do go out fishing, and you know i don't go four-wheeling or anything like that, but I don't want you know some grocery getting road tires.
01:07:53
echo_blades
So get a little bit of traction on them. But yeah, those things are like $300-some bucks a pop. It was almost damn $2,000. And then the sensors are like $100 a piece. And I just couldn't deal with the light anymore. It's been like five years since those things have been up front. was like, no, just do it.
01:08:11
echo_blades
So yeah, it was.
01:08:11
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, i'm I'm dreading the ones I got to get for the Jeep because they're like, I think they're like $3.275 piece.
01:08:19
echo_blades
Oh, there gotta be more, dude. You get mud tires.
01:08:21
Denis Tyrell
I haven't looked lately, but when I bought them, they were like $2,000 for four of them.
01:08:23
echo_blades
Oh yeah. minenet
01:08:28
echo_blades
And you gotta get the extra bonus. Cool. Look at me. I'm going to, so I can get ducked fifth wheel to put on the back of your car.
01:08:35
Denis Tyrell
i Yeah, I mean, I got to get the fifth one to match because... yeah I probably won't.
01:08:40
echo_blades
So awesome.
01:08:40
Denis Tyrell
I'll probably keep the one that's on there, but yeah.
01:08:44
echo_blades
Yeah, it was cool. Uh, but yeah, that was, it was lot. It was like 1800 bucks, you know, i was like, good God, man. um
01:08:51
Denis Tyrell
That's good thing you're making all this money off knives.
01:08:54
echo_blades
Yeah. All of it gone, gone. Hey, I just made a little bit of, no, you didn't damn guitar and a fuck some tires and holy shit.
01:09:06
echo_blades
And then this weekend though, um, another really cool, uh, Sandoval experience. I think last year, my dad and my brother went golfing. Uh, that was like the first time that all three of us had hung out in a while.
01:09:20
echo_blades
and then this weekend, um, it's going to be my dad, my brother and, and Jared and I, so we're going to go out, uh, on Saturday and, um, yeah, I'm super stoked about that.
01:09:27
Denis Tyrell
Wow.
01:09:33
Denis Tyrell
If it doesn't rain.
01:09:35
echo_blades
It's not, it's not going to rain cause I have to work. So yeah, but I'm super stoked about that. So, um,
01:09:45
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that'd be fun.
01:09:47
echo_blades
It's going to be awesome. Yeah. We're not, uh, we'll get to see each other that often. So, uh, when we all get together and then my son's finally old enough to kind of come hang with the degenerates like me and my, my brother together are always riot. So looking forward to that.
01:10:03
Denis Tyrell
come
01:10:03
echo_blades
Yeah. But
01:10:05
Denis Tyrell
I'm just going to be working all weekend.
01:10:08
echo_blades
you have another class?
01:10:10
Denis Tyrell
No, I'm going to do those sharpening attachments this weekend.
01:10:14
echo_blades
Oh, well, you got some slave labor.
01:10:20
Denis Tyrell
It's not slave labor. I'm paying them.
01:10:22
echo_blades
yeah
01:10:26
echo_blades
What's California minimum wage? Holy shit. Can I, can I apply? Holy crap.
01:10:32
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, he'll probably be making 20 bucks an hour while I'm training him and more after. So, yeah.
01:10:38
echo_blades
Yeah, that's crazy.
01:10:41
Denis Tyrell
But, yeah.
01:10:42
echo_blades
ah That's cool.
01:10:43
Denis Tyrell
No, i'm I'm jazzed up about the new year. I'm jazzed up about the projects I got. um New ones on the go. um I'm back at the point where I got more projects than I can handle, which is not all that new. But, yeah.
01:11:00
Denis Tyrell
um
01:11:01
echo_blades
yeah
01:11:02
Denis Tyrell
already forecasting to March and getting, getting blades ready for Texas.
01:11:07
echo_blades
Yes.
01:11:10
echo_blades
Not to sell, right?
01:11:12
Denis Tyrell
No.
01:11:13
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah. When you were talking about the drop point, um I was thinking, I was like, yeah, no, I don't. I won't. It'll be a minute till I can do that because I have quite a bit of orders to to get through.
01:11:26
echo_blades
so And at my rate.
01:11:29
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I'll have a few up on the website and then up on the drop point in the newsletter in the next week or two.
01:11:37
echo_blades
I may sneak a couple.
01:11:38
Denis Tyrell
so
01:11:39
echo_blades
Yeah, that that pairing knife is not really spoken for. And I'll have one one intrepid that I've kind of worked in. so
01:11:46
Denis Tyrell
You still haven't got a website set up, do you?
01:11:46
echo_blades
Maybe. um No. Short answer is no.
01:11:55
echo_blades
Maybe if I, I need some help with it. I'm never going to do it. So my wife said something up, but it's, yeah, it's very, very poorly set up. Not poorly, but like, you know, not tuned up. So I'm not, I don't even use it.
01:12:09
Denis Tyrell
you have a domain in like, is there something on the domain? Like I can type something in and go there. Oh,
01:12:19
Denis Tyrell
it says under construction.
01:12:23
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:12:24
Denis Tyrell
All right. He doesn't want to share.
01:12:25
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:12:25
Denis Tyrell
He doesn't want everyone seeing the shame of the the stick figures.
01:12:30
echo_blades
It's not the shame.
01:12:30
Denis Tyrell
on his mode
01:12:30
echo_blades
It's, it's that it's somebody that was very thoughtful, uh, set it up and, uh, in a very quick fashion and I have not done anything to it. So that's just not my gig, dude.
01:12:41
echo_blades
If I got to sit there and, and, and, uh,
01:12:47
echo_blades
Yeah, I'm just, i it's not what I like to do. I don't want to do fucking CAD work or computer shit. So, but yeah, man, I'm, I'm with you though, dude. I got a lot of shit going. um' I'm fired up again. um And yeah, it's going to be very hard for me to avoid new things because I want to do things.
01:13:16
echo_blades
culinary stuff, but I got to finish a bunch of shit first. So
01:13:20
Denis Tyrell
Well, that's good. I am so glad to hear that you're you're jazzed about it. And I look forward to seeing the new line of knives coming out of Echo Blades pretty soon.
01:13:29
echo_blades
that's right. Yeah.
01:13:32
Denis Tyrell
All right, man. that sounds That sounds like a show.
01:13:34
echo_blades
Let's get out of here.
01:13:36
Denis Tyrell
We got to gear up for next week, the big one hundredth episode.
01:13:36
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:13:40
Denis Tyrell
episode. 99.
01:13:41
echo_blades
Is it really the 100th? This 99.
01:13:43
Denis Tyrell
next week is the one hundredth episode
01:13:44
echo_blades
this is ninety nine
01:13:46
Denis Tyrell
ninety nine
01:13:47
echo_blades
Oh my God. Maybe I'll just have our our very special 100th episode guest bestow us.
01:13:58
Denis Tyrell
i have I have something special in the works.
01:14:02
echo_blades
I'm so happy.
01:14:04
Denis Tyrell
I think it's going to be.
01:14:04
echo_blades
Who would have thought, Dennis? Who would have thought?
01:14:06
Denis Tyrell
I think it's going be.
01:14:07
echo_blades
couple years ago, you were like, i'm going to do a a podcast. And I was like, that sounds lame. And you're like, nah, but yeah I want you to do it with me. And I'm like, yeah, that's stupid. And then here we are.
01:14:18
Denis Tyrell
Here we are. see you sounded like me.
01:14:21
echo_blades
ah did. You're rubbing off. Not on me, but yeah. You get it. Spider-Man. All right, that's good.
01:14:28
Denis Tyrell
Okay, on that note, buh-bye.
01:14:30
echo_blades
Bye. Yes.
01:14:38
Denis Tyrell
I think the name of this episode has to be Spider-Man.
01:14:44
echo_blades
yes This thing's a fucking razor blade. It's just a laser beam. That's a wrap.