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E102: Breakfast saucy jizz
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Brent from Bald Man Knife and Tool joins us this week to talk knives and anything else on our small minds. Come listen in!
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Introductions
00:00:16
Bald Man
Yo, what's up guys? This is Brent Bald Man Knife and Tool and I'm here with Dennis Tyrell of Tyrell Knife Works and his buddy Jared Sandoval, his emotional support golfer and Echo Blades maker extraordinaire.
00:00:33
Denis Tyrell
why why Why do you have to name him my friend? and He's your friend too.
00:00:38
Bald Man
Well, he's here every week with you and I just so happen to be lucky enough to join you guys today.
00:00:41
Denis Tyrell
right. I'm the lucky wiener.
00:00:46
Denis Tyrell
Good to have you. Good have you.
00:00:47
Bald Man
Yeah, it's great to be here. Thanks for the invite.
00:00:50
Denis Tyrell
It's always fun to have a bald guy on the show.
Weather and Humorous Anecdotes
00:00:55
Denis Tyrell
How you been?
00:00:56
Bald Man
I've been doing good. I've been super busy trying to just keep it nose down and working away.
00:01:04
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, you know, buried in snow like the rest of the country? Guess not, huh?
00:01:07
Bald Man
No, no snow. It was actually 81 degrees this morning and it just started cooling off.
00:01:10
echo_blades
Thank you.
00:01:12
Bald Man
The cold front hit us today, this afternoon.
00:01:16
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, but a bunch of guys on my Discord, they're all posting pictures of, like, the snow, and I want to be, like, the dick about it ah posting posting, like, the picture of me, like, mowing the backyard or something.
00:01:24
Bald Man
that's
00:01:29
Bald Man
Yeah, I feel bad for guys that are stuck in the snow and worried about ice. and you know i We deal with hurricanes and we get you know power loss here, but it's different when it's freezing temperatures.
00:01:40
Bald Man
So that's that's definitely that is a scary thought to me.
00:01:41
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:01:45
Denis Tyrell
I grew up with that, so I feel like I put in my time and I can make fun of people now.
00:01:51
Bald Man
Yeah, you definitely put in some time.
00:01:55
Denis Tyrell
Mr. Jared, what are you doing? Fondling your beard?
00:01:58
echo_blades
Yeah, I'm looking good for the podcast.
00:02:02
Denis Tyrell
For all of our viewers.
00:02:04
echo_blades
That's right. Just you two lucky guys.
00:02:07
Denis Tyrell
How are you, my friend?
00:02:08
echo_blades
I'm good, man. I'm ah i'm good. i have ah nothing going on except all the normal fun stuff. But um I was just saying you guys are talking about like it's all perfect here. And it's it's cold for me.
00:02:25
echo_blades
I don't care what you guys say.
00:02:27
Denis Tyrell
That's
00:02:28
echo_blades
yeah i don't Yeah, I just... Yeah, whatever. it's ah it's not It's not exactly 81 degrees here.
00:02:32
Denis Tyrell
cold.
00:02:35
echo_blades
so But yeah, I think it was ah Ryan... co I don't even know how it how it actually played out, but he was he texted us or messaged us a weather forecast and was going to be like minus 29 over there.
00:02:51
echo_blades
I don't know if that's actually what happened, but that's that's unfathomable for me.
00:02:54
Denis Tyrell
that's cool
00:02:56
echo_blades
That is not anything I'm interested in. That's like dangerous cold.
00:02:59
Bald Man
Nope. Nope. Hard pass.
00:03:01
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah. I've, I've seen a hundred and negative, sorry, negative, not 130, negative 30 Celsius, which is definitely colder than that.
00:03:13
Denis Tyrell
That's the coldest I've ever seen it.
00:03:14
echo_blades
what Isn't that like right around where it's actually the same negative?
00:03:18
Denis Tyrell
Minus 40 is where they cross.
00:03:20
echo_blades
Okay. All right.
00:03:21
Denis Tyrell
So minus 30 Celsius is really cold.
00:03:26
echo_blades
Yeah, that's that's no fun. But yeah, that sucks.
00:03:28
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:03:29
echo_blades
Especially for the areas that aren't ah used to getting in that cold.
00:03:29
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:03:34
echo_blades
And then it comes the the freezing comes in and tears all the infrastructure up and causes some real havoc. I haven't heard anything that, like a couple years ago, Texas had that big freeze and fucked everything up.
00:03:46
Denis Tyrell
I haven't heard.
00:03:47
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:03:47
Denis Tyrell
ah
00:03:48
echo_blades
So.
00:03:48
Denis Tyrell
My wife's actually traveling. She's in Colorado right now, and she sent me a picture all the snow and was lamenting that it's very cold there. So.
00:03:58
echo_blades
Dude, was today like a, some holiday of some kind? Was there any?
00:04:03
Denis Tyrell
No?
00:04:04
echo_blades
Cause I was talking to a,
00:04:05
Denis Tyrell
Last week was all day.
00:04:07
echo_blades
Yeah, I was talking to a buddy today on my way to work and there was a moment on my drive that is normally just, it takes me an hour and 20 minutes to go 33 miles or something like that every morning.
00:04:19
echo_blades
And there was a spot on the road where I literally saw one a set of brake lights in front of me and no cars coming at me for like, I don't know, 10 minutes. I started to freak like the the the apocalypse.
00:04:30
Denis Tyrell
You thought it was Sunday?
00:04:32
echo_blades
No, ah no, I thought like the zombies were here. I was like, oh, shit, I better turn around and go get my Boogaloo kit. Yeah.
00:04:43
echo_blades
And then, i like, i don't know, 10 minutes later, I was back in traffic and everybody was there. But, yeah, it was like this moment where I was like, what is happening?
Traffic and Golf Discussions
00:04:50
echo_blades
It was just.
00:04:50
Denis Tyrell
you probably You probably passed an accident and didn't notice, and that stopped all the traffic. That's probably what happened.
00:04:56
echo_blades
No, I mean, Vasco.
00:04:57
Bald Man
Or he caused an accident and everybody behind him was just done.
00:04:58
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:04:59
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. yeah Yeah. Probably that. He's on his phone all the time when he's in the car, so you never know what he's up to.
00:05:08
echo_blades
Well, my phone is mounted in its secure location and I use it responsibly.
00:05:17
Denis Tyrell
Bullshit.
00:05:19
Bald Man
Those are the rumble strips.
00:05:19
echo_blades
e horrible ah Yeah. Yeah.
00:05:25
Denis Tyrell
Oh.
00:05:25
echo_blades
mean It was, it was super freaky and like eerie to me. Like there's, there's moments where you're not supposed to be alone or like, you know, secluded. And that was, that was definitely not the time I expected that it kind of freaked me out a little bit.
00:05:37
echo_blades
And man, I know you guys are huge football fans, so I wanted to make sure that we talk about the NFC Championship.
00:05:43
Denis Tyrell
It was awful.
00:05:45
echo_blades
I promise you, I struggled to find a team that I hate more than the Rams and the Seahawks, dude.
00:05:54
Denis Tyrell
They're in the Hawks.
00:05:56
echo_blades
like I didn't know who I wanted to to lose more. like It was...
00:05:59
Denis Tyrell
Oh, I definitely wanted the Seahawks to lose more. Way more.
00:06:03
echo_blades
no I said, for what reason?
00:06:06
Denis Tyrell
Because I just don't like them.
00:06:07
echo_blades
I hate them. They're, they're probably the most hated team that I have. And
00:06:11
Denis Tyrell
And the you know the other team that I fucking hate is the Patriots. So I have zero interest in even watching the Super Bowl now.
00:06:19
echo_blades
yeah, I same, I will watch it. Cause I hope to see a go Patriots, I guess, but yeah, no, that was, that was tough.
00:06:23
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I will too, but...
00:06:29
echo_blades
And then we have a, this, um, a new not a new office but anyways we have a so ah southern california ah branch that i've been talking to the guys a lot lately and i joined a meeting and they were talking about like oh the rams are gonna like they were rooting for him and i was like what the fuck is wrong with you guys like it still takes me by surprise when i talk to people that aren't you know affiliated with the sports teams that i like but Yeah, it was really hard.
00:06:55
echo_blades
So at least I got i i will get to talk some shit tomorrow to to those guys. So there's a little bit of good to come out out of it. But yeah, bro, what a shit show.
00:07:05
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, the only team I wanted to win was the Broncos this weekend because my daughter lives in Colorado. And Kim is visiting and she will be there for the Super Bowl.
00:07:13
echo_blades
i I can get behind the Broncos. I don't have any issues.
00:07:18
Denis Tyrell
And it would have been cool to be cheering on Denver, but that's not going to happen.
00:07:22
echo_blades
She should be here for the Super Bowl. And that's even fucking worse, man.
00:07:24
Denis Tyrell
No.
00:07:26
echo_blades
For
00:07:26
Denis Tyrell
I know both those shitty teams are going be here.
00:07:31
echo_blades
those that don't know, the Super Bowl is here at Levi's Stadium in San Francisco, Clara.
00:07:35
Denis Tyrell
yeah santa claire
00:07:40
echo_blades
But yeah, man, that was that was that was brutal for me anyway. So I just couldn't do it.
00:07:45
Denis Tyrell
yeah i was half a quarter watching it kim was watching it and then yeah i looked up for my phone every once a while yeah all right enough of that
00:07:52
echo_blades
I just watched the last drive. And yeah, it was. Yeah. So whatever.
00:08:00
echo_blades
Yeah. Let's just get all that out of the way. I hit a flag stick while I was golfing this weekend from 150 yards out. That was pretty cool.
00:08:08
Denis Tyrell
Hit it with what?
00:08:10
echo_blades
With the ball.
00:08:13
echo_blades
So if so if you
00:08:14
Denis Tyrell
okay yeah I could walk up and hit one with a club.
00:08:17
echo_blades
Yeah. Well, you know, if you hit the flag stick from that far out, it it sounds cool. And it's, you know, it's and then, by yeah, and then you're fucking 15 yards off the green because you hit a great shot and you get no reward.
00:08:24
Denis Tyrell
And then your ball goes like 30 yards.
00:08:31
echo_blades
But yeah, that was cool.
00:08:32
Denis Tyrell
But you really didn't hit a great shot because if you wouldn't hit the stick, it would have bounced way far.
00:08:33
echo_blades
I did.
00:08:38
echo_blades
No, no, it was coming in. It actually only bounced like about, it it was a good shot. It didn't go that too far. was about, I don't know, 10 feet off because it was in the club.
00:08:47
Denis Tyrell
Was anybody there to see it?
00:08:49
echo_blades
Yeah. My son was there.
00:08:50
Denis Tyrell
Okay.
00:08:51
echo_blades
we had and and We had a special guest too. I golfed with my son who's 17 and a 14 year old, and they're both probably five, six strokes better than me on their handicap.
00:09:03
echo_blades
And this fucking kid was out driving me by like 60 yards. Easy. A 14 year old. He was bombing them.
00:09:13
Bald Man
Wow.
00:09:14
echo_blades
Like it was in like, I was super impressed. Like, i I won with the handicaps, but I think he ended up beating me by two strokes straight up.
00:09:25
echo_blades
But, yeah, man, it was – I'll tell you, that's – golf can humble you in many ways. But when you golf with, you know, a 17-year-old and a 14-year-old and you're just – oh, man, it was it was good.
00:09:37
echo_blades
I did beat my son, though, so I did rub it in a little
Knife Making Challenges and Successes
00:09:41
echo_blades
bit. But, yeah, so anyways, I beat him straight up, yeah.
00:09:42
Denis Tyrell
You beat him straight up or with, uh,
00:09:47
echo_blades
Yeah, i beat him up. but He beat me by one one or two strokes the day before. And then, yeah, I got him on Sunday. So, yeah, it was good, though. But, yeah, man, I'll tell you what. that was That was something else. This freaking kid. And he's, I mean, he's half the size of me.
00:10:03
echo_blades
Whack! Ball taken off. I'm like, jeez, man. It's harsh.
00:10:10
Denis Tyrell
And you're getting old.
00:10:10
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:10:12
Denis Tyrell
They're not going to go as far pretty soon.
00:10:14
echo_blades
man I can still get them out there. just not My swing is ah is not is producing too much spin, so they're not. It's bad. I hit my three-wood farther than my driver. But anyways, that's enough for the golf segment is done.
00:10:23
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, we've done the golf and sports sa grant segment.
00:10:28
echo_blades
I have ah pursued a golf sponsor, though. Just hang tight.
00:10:32
Denis Tyrell
Really?
00:10:34
echo_blades
Hail Mary. Ain't happening, but.
00:10:36
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, yeah i I refuse to let it happen.
00:10:40
echo_blades
No, fuck you. You do.
00:10:42
Bald Man
thick but
00:10:45
Denis Tyrell
I am not reading out a golf sponsor every week.
00:10:45
echo_blades
evening I will do it with my own voice proudly.
00:10:51
Denis Tyrell
I don't see that happening.
00:10:53
echo_blades
i don't either. It's I said it's a Hail Mary, but there's no reason why you couldn't. There's a golf segment every single week.
00:11:00
Bald Man
Every week.
00:11:01
echo_blades
Every single week. It is a part of the show, sir.
00:11:03
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Unfortunately.
00:11:06
echo_blades
That's right. And now I hear that people have golf memes coming up in their algorithm.
00:11:13
Bald Man
i started getting I started getting golf stuff in my Instagram feed and I would send it to Jared.
00:11:13
echo_blades
Just.
00:11:20
Bald Man
And so, yeah, I told him, I said, how does how does it make you feel to know you've at least changed my algorithm, which means you've definitely changed other people's algorithms.
00:11:26
Denis Tyrell
Mine too.
00:11:30
echo_blades
I get at least five to 10 memes a day from people. Then I know they don't like golf, but they're... Yeah.
00:11:41
Bald Man
You are a legitimate influencer.
00:11:41
echo_blades
That's good.
00:11:43
echo_blades
That's right. Here we go.
00:11:44
Denis Tyrell
you know did Did you get any knife work done this week, Jared?
00:11:48
echo_blades
ah did. it did.
00:11:49
Denis Tyrell
Tell me.
00:11:50
echo_blades
Well, I had what I would say a ah ah failure in my etching process with the with the coffee.
00:11:59
Denis Tyrell
The coffee?
00:12:02
echo_blades
um um I don't know if it's a failure or not. mean, nothing's really a failure, but... um ah the The thing that has been sticking with me the most is a your lack of concern for for my issues.
00:12:13
echo_blades
I called Dennis and woke him up from a nap at like five o'clock on Sunday. Like literally woke him up. He's like, was ah I'm like, why do you have an answer to phone?
00:12:24
echo_blades
You're dead sleep. And I'm like,
00:12:26
Denis Tyrell
Maybe I just looked at it and thought it was you and ignored it.
00:12:29
echo_blades
Yeah, you should have. i would have But I'm like, hey, dude, like what's going on? and For whatever reason, the ah the the the coffee stuck to the 15 and 20 pretty good. We went with the coffee because the the banding on on the the steel was coming out streaky in in the gator piss. um And it definitely not the...
00:12:51
echo_blades
the pisses fault, but, um, something with this knife. And, like I said, the one thing you were saying is like, I probably have like an auto hormone or some differential heat treatment going on in there. And it's like, just, it's reacting weird to the edge and the coffee. Um, after the first two hours that it was in there, it wasn't, uh, I was still seeing the streaks. So I left it in there for lot. I ended up leaving it overnight.
00:13:17
echo_blades
And, uh,
00:13:18
Denis Tyrell
it was probably in there a little too long. That's probably what happened.
00:13:20
echo_blades
Yeah, that's problem. But well I checked it before I went to bed, and then it was the the darks were getting dark, but I was started to see it sticking the 15 and 20 a little bit, and it ended up taking.
00:13:34
echo_blades
So I i did try to sand the, the what the I think i the heart highest I have is 2,500, but with a hardbacker.
00:13:40
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, didn't work.
00:13:43
echo_blades
It started to, but it, not really.
00:13:46
Denis Tyrell
But then you fucked up the black. oh so what are you whining about then?
00:13:51
echo_blades
ah just, I can't, I'm going to fuck up the black if I, yeah, because there's some, yeah, it's it's it's hard to explain.
00:13:56
Denis Tyrell
Go any further?
00:14:01
echo_blades
I'll show you here in a second though. But it's, a a a lot of it got cleaned up, but, so did that. think I i ah ground out a knife and a couple other things. not Not too much this week, but did make some attempts.
00:14:19
echo_blades
How was your week, Mr. Dennis?
00:14:21
Denis Tyrell
It was good. um i finished I finished this guy, which um
00:14:28
Denis Tyrell
Jared likes. This is the the stainless San Mai. Yeah,
00:14:29
Bald Man
Oh, yeah.
00:14:35
echo_blades
Interior. Wash.
00:14:35
Bald Man
That has a sweet pattern.
00:14:38
Denis Tyrell
yeah I do love this. And then this one's got damascus um stainless Damascus guard and some other little features.
00:14:48
Bald Man
That's the one you sent the other day, right? You texted that the other day?
00:14:49
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:14:51
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. yeah That one, i finished another w two, um, fighter, just a full tang fighter. Um, yeah.
00:14:51
Bald Man
Yeah, that's beautiful.
00:15:03
Denis Tyrell
Um, and I'm still working on the dagger, just pecking away at it. I'm still waiting for, um, it looks good. Jared showed me the, the, the knife. What what do you maybe I don't see the problem.
00:15:18
echo_blades
Right there.
00:15:18
Denis Tyrell
Oh, Yeah, it's not bad.
00:15:21
echo_blades
there's it's not too bad. I'm trying to get it.
00:15:23
Denis Tyrell
Contrast is awesome though.
00:15:24
Bald Man
Yeah, you might need to yeah you need to text some beauty shots of that.
00:15:24
echo_blades
There. Right there. Yeah.
00:15:30
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I think you can...
00:15:31
echo_blades
It's almost salvageable, but not quite.
00:15:37
Denis Tyrell
If you're careful, I think you can clean that up. Or switch to sunshine cloth and just go after 15 20.
00:15:41
echo_blades
You'll see.
00:15:45
echo_blades
I think that's probably the next step. But yeah, no, it's it's almost good, but it's it's so close to being, because I love the the the pattern.
00:15:55
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah, it looks good.
00:15:57
echo_blades
But yeah, and then i didn't mean to to cut you off, but I do have to say this because, again, i i give Dennis the most public amount of shit ah on this earth. And ah I do say that that stainless Sanmai Bowie, dare I say that If there was ever a knife that you have made that I would consider purchasing, because your shit those the the the big pieces are expensive.
00:16:27
Denis Tyrell
All right, I'll send you bill
00:16:29
echo_blades
Yeah, the big the big pieces are expensive, right? like i'm not I'm not the guy to spend that much money on on a knife. But if there was one, that would be the one. That is my probably one of my favorite things that you have made.
00:16:39
Denis Tyrell
a bill.
00:16:41
echo_blades
like I don't know. It's like the whole... The whole thing comes together, the color scheme, the the stainless guard, the sand ma the stainless sandmi, the whole thing, just that is a badass knife.
00:16:54
echo_blades
And i I'm not a particular big fan of of the Bowie, right?
00:16:54
Denis Tyrell
Thank you.
00:16:54
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:16:55
Denis Tyrell
Thank you.
00:16:56
echo_blades
I bust your balls more about that than anything. Like, oh, yeah, Bowie, yeah.
00:16:59
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:17:02
echo_blades
Not my thing, but that was fucking very, very, very, very well done, sir. So hats off to that.
00:17:09
Denis Tyrell
Thank you. And I have a, um, a caiman skin that is a black gray caiman skin. That's going to fit that perfectly for the sheath. So I'll do the caiman like an alligator.
00:17:19
echo_blades
Cayman skin? What is that?
00:17:22
Denis Tyrell
It's a type of alligator.
00:17:22
Bald Man
yeah It's like alligator.
00:17:23
echo_blades
i have I have never heard that.
00:17:23
Bald Man
It's like a, It's like a mini version of an alligator.
00:17:27
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:17:27
echo_blades
So it's scary?
00:17:29
Denis Tyrell
No. Well, it's bigger than the one you held.
00:17:29
Bald Man
You
00:17:35
echo_blades
That was fucking scary.
00:17:35
Bald Man
were...
00:17:36
Denis Tyrell
ah
00:17:36
echo_blades
That's petrifying.
00:17:38
echo_blades
yeah Does it need a rubber band for its mouth to fall off right when the guy hands it to you?
00:17:40
Denis Tyrell
ah
00:17:47
Denis Tyrell
I wouldn't want
00:17:47
echo_blades
Mind you, mind you that that was the bigger of the two that Brent made me hold because I was going for the baby.
00:17:51
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:17:53
Denis Tyrell
The what? the The 12 inch one?
00:17:53
Bald Man
you were
00:17:55
Bald Man
You were about to get, yeah he was about to get like a foot long, one like a little bit. It's ah and a glorified lizard. And he's like, I'm going to get that.
00:18:01
Denis Tyrell
Right.
00:18:01
echo_blades
That thing was like three or four feet long.
00:18:03
echo_blades
Shut up. That thing was not a fucking child.
00:18:04
Bald Man
No. Well, the one you were about to grab.
00:18:06
Denis Tyrell
I saw pictures of it. It was not that.
00:18:09
Bald Man
Yeah. The one he was about to grab was like half the size of that.
00:18:09
echo_blades
Don't want to
00:18:12
echo_blades
Yeah, the other one was not was not tiny, but it was by alligator terms.
00:18:13
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:18:17
echo_blades
Yeah, that it was plenty big.
00:18:18
Denis Tyrell
It was still an egg.
00:18:20
Bald Man
No,
Amusing Stories and Promotions
00:18:21
Bald Man
no.
00:18:21
echo_blades
It didn't even have udders, dude. That's...
00:18:27
Denis Tyrell
That sounds like a good time to mention our pals at a Baker forge.
00:18:29
echo_blades
ah
00:18:35
Denis Tyrell
the makers of the Gator Piss line of products. And if you need some premium Gator Piss, you should find a Gator with udders and milk yourself some. And if you can't do that, go to Baker Fortune Tool and get some. They've got the ah the OG Blend, the Heavy, if you want to just do a blackout. And they've also got the...
00:18:58
Denis Tyrell
Gator Piss Max what i that I used on the guard for that knife. And, of course, they have some awesome steel, um some of the best steel on the market, not only stainless Damascus, but, of course, their regular copper blend.
00:19:15
Denis Tyrell
What is it what is the drop this week? Do I have it in Christmas?
00:19:18
echo_blades
This week is kryptonite, stainless Damascus, twisted AEBL and 154CM pattern. Etch is like fire, like fire with gator piss.
00:19:30
echo_blades
Max.
00:19:30
Denis Tyrell
It looks good. a cool pattern.
00:19:32
echo_blades
it It is a very cool pattern. um And then make sure you get the ah Baker Forging Tool app for early access um one day sooner than the um the website.
00:19:44
echo_blades
but Those guys snake all the good stuff right off the back, so.
00:19:47
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:19:47
Bald Man
Thank you.
00:19:47
Denis Tyrell
get Get on there and be an app guy and use the discount code.
00:19:51
echo_blades
Eat an appetite. Yeah.
00:19:52
Denis Tyrell
yeah Use the discount code triple 10 at checkout and save yourself some money.
00:19:53
echo_blades
Oh. good evening That's right. What's the recipe, Dennis?
00:20:01
Denis Tyrell
ah
00:20:02
echo_blades
What's the recipe?
00:20:03
Denis Tyrell
The recipe is clean it, etch it, and protect it
00:20:08
echo_blades
That's right. Grime Reaper.
00:20:13
Denis Tyrell
Grime Reaper, Gator Piss, and Gator Skin. i haven't used Gator Skin on that knife yet.
00:20:17
echo_blades
That's right.
00:20:18
Denis Tyrell
I need to before anybody gets their grubby hands on it. um what else did i do this week yeah i was finishing up the doing little parts of the the dagger you're giving me the timeout signal why
00:20:23
echo_blades
yeah
00:20:33
echo_blades
I wanted to talk about the ah most famous person you met post. Did you see that today? Both of you guys yeah both of you guys commented on it.
00:20:41
Denis Tyrell
yeah yeah
00:20:44
echo_blades
I think Brent's was absolutely hilarious. But... i i really am not going to let this fucking podcast go without you explaining this death-defying encounter with your first-year family.
00:20:48
Bald Man
It was the truth.
00:20:58
Denis Tyrell
it It was not death defying. This is in Vegas. ah No, sorry. It was LA, not Vegas. um Walking along and this car comes. I'm i'm like, you know, there's a tiny little side street. I'm walking down like, i don't know if it was Hollywood Boulevard or somewhere. And it's like one of the first times I was in LA.
00:21:17
Denis Tyrell
Walking along and this car comes screeching down the side street. And I'm like, like this. And it's a convertible and behind the wheels, James Kahn. And he looks at me and he goes, yeah, ah glitter that's what he did.
00:21:37
Denis Tyrell
And I kept walking and he drove away.
00:21:42
Bald Man
He didn't jump on his hood, slide across it.
00:21:43
Denis Tyrell
i didn't jump. No, no, no. I was like, man, Hey, wait, I know that guy.
00:21:45
Bald Man
He didn't fake an injury.
00:21:49
Denis Tyrell
And you can totally imagine like James, that look of him going, yeah.
00:21:54
echo_blades
And he's like the the elf dad age at that time or like, okay.
00:21:56
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. ah No, no. It was zooies before that. This is like 25, 25 years ago.
00:22:00
echo_blades
Oh.
00:22:03
echo_blades
Oh, geez.
00:22:04
Denis Tyrell
I don't know. i don't even think. Oh, no, it's more. It's like 35 years ago. Yeah, i didn't live in California then.
00:22:11
echo_blades
How old are you? oh geez.
00:22:13
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that was a long, long time ago.
00:22:13
Bald Man
Wow.
00:22:15
Denis Tyrell
Long time. ah Why, Bren, who did you have?
00:22:21
Bald Man
I had one Jared Sandoval from Echo Blades.
00:22:24
Denis Tyrell
Oh, I did see that.
00:22:25
Bald Man
ah
00:22:28
Denis Tyrell
I did see that.
00:22:31
Denis Tyrell
Butt licker.
00:22:31
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:22:32
Denis Tyrell
Jeez.
00:22:33
echo_blades
Yeah. I thought that was great. And I met a bunch of people, but I still think my favorite one is, is the time I almost ah hooked up, hooked up ah James Headfield at at the house of primary.
00:22:42
Denis Tyrell
Oh, come on.
00:22:45
Denis Tyrell
I was just going to say, it's got to be the James Hetfield story.
00:22:47
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah. That was probably the most starstruck I've ever been.
00:22:49
Bald Man
Ha ha ha
00:22:51
echo_blades
you rock, dude.
00:22:53
Denis Tyrell
i love you, man.
00:22:55
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:22:57
Bald Man
ha
00:22:57
echo_blades
so
00:23:00
Denis Tyrell
I told Kim that story and she could not stop laughing.
00:23:00
echo_blades
ah yeah
00:23:03
Bald Man
like this
00:23:03
echo_blades
I still to this day, I still cannot believe that's what fucking, that's what I said to that guy.
00:23:06
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:23:08
echo_blades
Fucking you rock dude.
00:23:10
Denis Tyrell
take beatless
00:23:16
echo_blades
i was, oh God, it's still, it's still great.
00:23:20
Bald Man
Oh.
00:23:20
Denis Tyrell
ah
Safety, Betting, and Knife Making Updates
00:23:21
Denis Tyrell
there's There's a meme. Someone's got to pull that off. a Jared going, you rock, dude. I'm having him look like Beavis.
00:23:28
echo_blades
I don't know. Yeah, that that would be a fucking, that'd be an upsell there. Cause I was like, Oh man. Yeah.
00:23:37
echo_blades
a
00:23:39
Denis Tyrell
Oh, man.
00:23:42
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, so that's kind of... Oh, ah yeah, bad news. um The folder class I was supposed to have this coming weekend has been postponed.
00:23:53
Denis Tyrell
um Mr. Rick Hall got hurt.
00:23:59
Denis Tyrell
Jared laughs.
00:23:59
echo_blades
is It's not funny. I swear. rick I love you, dude.
00:24:03
Denis Tyrell
the What? What?
00:24:04
echo_blades
I am so sorry to hear.
00:24:08
Denis Tyrell
Really? Sounds like your story.
00:24:09
echo_blades
my
00:24:11
Bald Man
You're like doubling down on getting pummeled by Rick.
00:24:12
Denis Tyrell
Holy shit. No kidding.
00:24:15
Bald Man
Jeez.
00:24:19
Denis Tyrell
Because I told him the story. That's why. but
00:24:21
echo_blades
God. I don't even know if I can tell it, but yeah. Am I allowed to?
00:24:25
Denis Tyrell
Well, I'm about to tell it, so go ahead.
00:24:27
echo_blades
Oh, please. Yeah. Yeah. And then I'll talk about this.
00:24:30
Denis Tyrell
I got the, I'm sure it's the abridged version I got from Rick, but basically they were like moving or unloading a table saw and it was in the, in the back of a quad or on top of the quad and his buddy Mitch was driving. I guess Mitch gunned it.
00:24:46
Denis Tyrell
The saw came off the back and landed on Rick.
00:24:47
Bald Man
Oh.
00:24:51
Denis Tyrell
And, you know, we're laughing, but he's actually hurt and he's got to have surgery. So it's not really that funny, but yeah.
00:24:55
echo_blades
I know. It's not funny. It's not. But I just think it's it is funny that he was attacked by table
00:25:03
Denis Tyrell
yeah so yeah he probably didn't want it damaged so he caught it before he hit the ground yeah
00:25:04
echo_blades
saw. He probably caught it. That's the fucking problem. even You know what mean?
00:25:10
echo_blades
Yeah. That's because he's definitely strong enough to catch a table saw for sure.
00:25:15
Denis Tyrell
yeah no I think he like twisted his knee I think it's his knee um and yeah something popped and yeah it wasn't good yeah
00:25:25
echo_blades
Yeah, that sucks.
00:25:25
Bald Man
Split second. Split second. It happens.
00:25:28
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, but that sucks. I'm sure we'll get the course rescheduled. It's Mike mike V coming coming up.
00:25:35
echo_blades
And better weather. That's right. And then I'll be able to hang around.
00:25:38
Denis Tyrell
It won't be better. Well, January, yeah, it'll probably be better weather. So who knows? If it's next month, it's not going to be better, but February just as bad.
00:25:48
echo_blades
Okay.
00:25:49
Denis Tyrell
But um yeah, if it's like April, who knows? We'll have to see.
00:25:54
echo_blades
Speaking of like you be being a weatherman apparently, but ah I guess you can now officially bet like betting on the weather has now become a popular thing.
00:26:07
echo_blades
Yeah. Like there's a whole website or something like that where people are actually, there's like been some big money spent on how many inches of of snow this is you're going to get on this thing, blah, blah, blah.
00:26:18
Denis Tyrell
I saw a bunch of posts, a bunch of guys with with like yardsticks in their yard. Even Dustin from Art of Craftsmanship did it.
00:26:29
Denis Tyrell
I was like, and i couldn't I didn't understand.
00:26:29
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:26:31
Denis Tyrell
Maybe that's why.
00:26:33
echo_blades
Yeah. I don't know, but yeah I just thought it was hilarious. Like, cause I'm not a big gambler, but apparently that's, that's happening. I mean, the Superbowl is full of those things, right?
00:26:44
echo_blades
Yeah. What Gatorade color, you know, the coin toss, like all some really ridiculous stuff, but now I guess the weather's in on it now.
00:26:51
Denis Tyrell
our friends have, um, um, a Superbowl watch party. And one of the things they have a, um, a pool for is what is the first commercial?
00:27:04
Denis Tyrell
So you can put five bucks in and you have to guess with like, no, like, is it going to be Coke? Is it good? Like Doritos? Like, what is the first commercial going to be?
00:27:15
Denis Tyrell
And, uh, Kim won,
00:27:17
echo_blades
Yeah, and i and I whooped his ass on the golf course. yeah He didn't stand a chance. Not a single chance.
00:27:25
Bald Man
As his son walks in the background, he's going to throw something at you.
00:27:33
echo_blades
He's in the dark, too. I can see him. there All right.
00:27:38
Denis Tyrell
such a dick.
00:27:39
echo_blades
Sorry.
00:27:40
Denis Tyrell
This is a bad father moment.
00:27:40
echo_blades
yes This is, yeah.
00:27:41
Denis Tyrell
Uh,
00:27:45
echo_blades
Oh.
00:27:45
Denis Tyrell
and speaking of gambling, ah since, uh, I don't have a class this weekend, I'm going to a buddy's poker game. So I will be gambling this weekend.
00:27:54
Bald Man
All right.
00:27:55
echo_blades
I thought you have a course.
00:27:56
Bald Man
Well, that ought to be fun.
00:27:57
Denis Tyrell
I do, but it's not at night. Poker games at night.
00:28:00
echo_blades
Hmm. It's a whole weekend.
00:28:03
Denis Tyrell
Saturday, Sunday.
00:28:06
Denis Tyrell
Why, does that infringe on your shop time?
00:28:09
echo_blades
I was just curious. Oh, my bad.
00:28:12
Denis Tyrell
You're always bitching. I have a glass. It infringes on Jared's shop time.
00:28:17
echo_blades
It does. i mean, yes. To answer your question. Yes. But that wasn't the direction I was going. Yeah.
00:28:27
Denis Tyrell
Brent, what are you working on in the shop this week?
00:28:32
Bald Man
Man, I was working on so a whole batch of Albatross knives this past past week. Been heat treating, grinding, profiling, doing all that. um Yeah, it's been... I've been doing that. um I did a couple new blade shapes. Been doing a lot of segmented scale glue-ups lately, which has been fun.
00:28:54
Bald Man
because it kind of gets that you know that creative side. you you know like you When you initially make knives, right it's creative, and it it always is, but it gets a little dull because you kind of – you feel like you've exhausted all all the things, whether it's the grind, you know, handle options, that kind of stuff. So this is kind of fun because it's it is time consuming and it can be frustrating because ah I'm the type of person when I have a lot of options, I will get overwhelmed and then not choose anything. So that
00:29:33
Bald Man
when you look at all the handle combos you can do, the segment combos. um But it is fun because you put them together and the finished product looks really cool.
00:29:45
Bald Man
And yeah, it's been going going good. So doing that, got some Cerakote coming on some of them. Yeah, I've just been profiling a lot of knives right now.
00:29:56
Bald Man
I don't know, do you guys order water jet blanks at all very frequently?
00:30:00
Denis Tyrell
Mm-hmm.
00:30:02
echo_blades
I have not.
00:30:03
Bald Man
It has been challenge to get specifically my thicker steels, the quarter-inch thick, like MagnaCut, higher-end stainless steels, the CPM steels. It's just been a challenge getting that stuff um in a timely manner and with delays and all that. So, yeah, been going back to the port-a-band getting after it.
00:30:30
Denis Tyrell
Where are you getting your water jet items cut from New Jersey?
00:30:35
Bald Man
um No, so I've been New Jersey. I've gotten in the past. Recently, though, um Send Cut Send has offered some knife steels.
00:30:45
Denis Tyrell
Oh, really?
00:30:46
Bald Man
They've been great. When they have the steels in stock, they are the quickest by far to get things from. Other than that, water jet knives and knife print.
00:31:00
Denis Tyrell
Uh, every time I look water jet knives is like the most expensive of the three. So I've never, I've never, eat every, at least every time I've looked, I've never used them, but, um,
00:31:09
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:31:12
Bald Man
Stend cuts, definitely not the cheapest, but again, turnaround, it's like within a week you get your blades. So it's crazy.
00:31:18
Denis Tyrell
that's awesome. Yeah. I know they're quick on on everything else. so I'm not surprised that, uh, yeah, I know.
00:31:21
Bald Man
Yeah. Yeah. Crazy fast.
00:31:25
Denis Tyrell
Um, I just got an email from the knife print folks that they're carrying Magna cut now. So, maybe
00:31:31
Bald Man
Yeah. They, they've been out of stock of the thickness that I needed and I did get an email that they were, they were back in stock and, But I've had this order placed with steel from them in specific for like two months now, um two and a half months, something like that. And they they emailed me a couple of weeks after the order. So they were out of stock in that thickness. And then, um you know, do I want to refund? Do I want to wait? And I just chose to wait.
00:32:02
Bald Man
I did hear from somebody that Waterjet Knives, their water jet is broken. And it's supposedly going to be down for like four weeks.
00:32:09
Denis Tyrell
Oh.
00:32:13
Denis Tyrell
Wow.
00:32:13
Bald Man
and So that's a bummer. Yeah. So anyways, just kind of struggle. And again, part of it is just the thickness of steel and the type of steel I'm looking for.
00:32:26
Bald Man
You know, it wouldn't be such a big deal if I was looking for some, you know, 10 series or, you know, 52, 100 and more of a
00:32:33
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, yeah.
00:32:36
Bald Man
regular thickness, eighth inch, something like that. i could probably get those pretty, pretty easily.
00:32:41
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Like, you is it the quarter-inch stuff that you're having issues with?
00:32:46
Bald Man
Yeah. Quarter inch in the CPM steels is a specifically magnet cut, you know? So when crucible got bought out by era steel, that put a, that slowed down all that because now it's all coming from where are they? France.
00:33:02
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I don't remember.
00:33:03
Bald Man
I believe so. So, That kind of put a little bit of a halt on that for a hot minute.
00:33:08
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, and I would have...
00:33:08
Bald Man
So everybody was out of it.
00:33:11
Denis Tyrell
I would imagine most of those steels are in the culinary world and there's not a lot of quarter inch demand. So yeah.
00:33:17
Bald Man
Right.
00:33:20
Bald Man
Yeah, so I guess that's a meat problem.
00:33:21
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:33:25
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Um, but they'll, they'll figure it out hopefully.
00:33:29
Bald Man
Yeah, it'll all get worked out. Not too worried about it. just ah you know set you into going back and profiling stuff out, getting that done.
00:33:37
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. It can be fun. Sometimes it's a nice breakup.
00:33:40
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:33:41
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I got to do a bunch of that tomorrow. I'm going to be starting a new folder. nodded new Not a new model, just a new cranking out a folder. so i'll be And i my least favorite thing is profiling the titanium liners because grinding titanium is such a pain in the ass.
00:34:00
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:34:01
Denis Tyrell
Fills the shop full of smoke and ah not my favorite thing at all. But oh well.
00:34:08
Denis Tyrell
um i actually got um i spoke to someone i haven't chatted with in a long time today uh chatted with brian hannikamp from uh tortuga blade works today he reached out and had some uh questions so it's good to hear from him he's been out of it for uh think he said a couple of years so last couple of weeks he's been ah
00:34:22
Bald Man
Oh, nice. nice
00:34:33
Denis Tyrell
Been back at it He was asking me about doing some tapered tangs and just some techniques there. So good to hear from him. That kind of warmed my heart a bit that he's back in it Good to hear from him.
00:34:46
Denis Tyrell
But, yeah.
00:34:47
echo_blades
I have been absolutely stoked to see some activity and from his his account there. So I share that sentiment.
00:34:56
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that's awesome.
00:34:58
echo_blades
It's good to see it.
00:34:59
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:34:59
Bald Man
Yeah, good stuff.
00:34:59
echo_blades
The guy, he does awesome stuff. Awesome stuff.
00:35:02
Bald Man
Yeah. Yeah, he's got a really cool style.
00:35:05
Denis Tyrell
yeah he was doing that um distressed copper right wasn't that was his right wasn't he doing those the pirate yeah that's shipwreck patina that's what he was calling yeah cool hey i got some new handle material today yeah
00:35:12
echo_blades
Pirate.
00:35:12
Bald Man
Yeah, like, like shipwreck type stuff.
00:35:15
echo_blades
Yeah. yeah
00:35:28
echo_blades
It's a pixelated blob. Nice. I can't wait to see that on.
00:35:34
Denis Tyrell
Uh, and the
00:35:35
echo_blades
the hell is that? Seriously. i know, but these people can't.
00:35:38
Denis Tyrell
it's a piece of muskox. Um, uh, I wouldn't say it's my favorite material.
00:35:42
Bald Man
Oh, your favorite material.
00:35:47
Denis Tyrell
I've never actually used it. I've seen it on a knife and, uh, it just looks amazing. Uh, it's almost like a marble. It looks like a, like marbly floor.
00:36:00
Denis Tyrell
Um,
00:36:00
Bald Man
So do you have plans for it?
00:36:02
Denis Tyrell
I do not. And he was nice enough. This is from um Levi. God, I forget his life. McDonald.
00:36:13
Denis Tyrell
<unk> He's a Canadian. Sent this to me from Canada. He's like like way, way up in Canada. Like Northwest Territories. Like north. um In the middle of nowhere.
00:36:25
Denis Tyrell
um But i got I picked those two pieces up. And then he sent me like a box of end cuts. which are awesome because I'll use them for bolsters for um like the little strip in the middle of a segmented scale um and do like a little strip of of muskox in there so it's it's really cool stuff and unlike um mammoth molar it's not heavy It looks like stone, but it's actually pretty light.
00:36:56
Bald Man
Okay.
00:37:00
Denis Tyrell
It's, it's, I would say it's lighter than for the size of this block or cut, whatever. This is one inch by six by three.
00:37:10
Denis Tyrell
It's lighter than stabilized wood, but it's really, really solid.
00:37:13
Bald Man
Oh, interesting.
00:37:15
Denis Tyrell
Cause it's like an organic, you know, it's bone, but.
00:37:18
Bald Man
And do you have to do any stabilization with it?
00:37:21
Denis Tyrell
No, I don't think so.
00:37:23
Bald Man
Interesting.
00:37:24
Denis Tyrell
That's good question, but this isn't, I don't know if it's, true it has some kind of look of it, but I don't think it's stabilized. But, um,
Travel, Transitioning to Full-Time Knife Making, and Business Insights
00:37:33
Denis Tyrell
yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Um, I've seen it done on some knives. I first saw this when I was in Alaska and, uh, this, this shop that i literally pulled over on the side of the road and there was a knife shop and, uh,
00:37:47
Denis Tyrell
The guy had a milk crate full of this stuff. I'm like, oh, and he showed it to me on a knife. I'm like, oh, that's amazing. And and then I found out how much it was. okay um It's really pricey stuff.
00:37:57
echo_blades
You're
00:38:01
Denis Tyrell
And it's not endangered or anything. So like I could get it shipped to me from Canada, no problem. So.
00:38:07
echo_blades
going to do some segmented scales with it?
00:38:09
Denis Tyrell
ah No, yeah, with some of the end cuts, I'll be doing some some segmented scales and put some other things in it. I'm going to have to do some folder scales with it too.
00:38:20
echo_blades
Nice.
00:38:21
Bald Man
Nice. Yeah.
00:38:21
Denis Tyrell
yeah Like some of the pieces I have, the offcuts are like big enough to do folder scales.
00:38:27
Bald Man
Cool.
00:38:27
Denis Tyrell
So yeah, that was nice. I'm still waiting for my piece of ivory for my dagger though. So that's why it's on a... holding state still the snowstorm actually affected me because it's getting shipped from the northeast so that's a bummer
00:38:43
Bald Man
Yeah,
00:38:46
Bald Man
yeah I have a feeling there's going to be a lot of that, lot of delays.
00:38:50
Denis Tyrell
yeah uh it better clear up because in three weeks i'll be in chicago so i'd like the weather to be a little cleared up by then
00:39:02
echo_blades
Oh, I was like, why the hell are you going to Chicago? But all right. Permission granted.
00:39:06
Denis Tyrell
Yes. Going to see the boy, going to see the boy graduate three weeks to go.
00:39:09
echo_blades
Yes. Nice.
00:39:13
Denis Tyrell
It's amazing.
00:39:13
echo_blades
It's been fast.
00:39:14
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. It's been super fast, but he probably doesn't think so.
00:39:16
echo_blades
It's been fast.
00:39:19
Denis Tyrell
Um, yeah. Um, what else was I going to say? um Oh, I wanted to um talk about my triple T this week. And it's good thing we got Mr. Brent here in the ah in the house. my I've had a bunch of people ask me, you know, when should you go full time?
00:39:41
Denis Tyrell
And what is my experience about going full-time? And the first thing um i I've said several times I didn't technically go full-time. I retired, and now I make knives full-time. That's different. I don't need to support everything. So my experience is not you know what people are actually asking me. But I am going kind of broach this topic in Triple T this week, talk about what I think – you know, some, I don't know, formulas, some, you know, think about these things before you decide to go full-time. And if you are going to do it, then, um you know, make sure you think about this stuff and, um you know, your bills and how much you need and here are the things you need to think about. so I'm curious, Brent, now that you're full-time,
00:40:36
Denis Tyrell
What are some of the things you, like, how do you calculate the, you know, some people break it down by, this is one of the things I was thinking about. Some people will break it down all the way down to a knife.
00:40:48
Denis Tyrell
Like this much is spent on abrasives. This much is spent on, know, if you're forging propane or or electricity or whatever.
00:40:55
Bald Man
Right, right.
00:40:58
Denis Tyrell
um Do you do that? Or, you know, what what do you, how do you calculate what you need to make on a knife?
00:41:06
Bald Man
Yeah, so i don't I don't go into the minutia of the electricity and propane, but I i definitely do calculate consumables. So that would be abrasives, gas.
00:41:21
Bald Man
drill bits, bandsaw blades, all that stuff. Um, now it's hard to do. I get, so I get a similar question, you know, we all as knife makers, whether you're a hobby or full-time, how long did it take you to make that knife?
00:41:30
Denis Tyrell
Yes.
00:41:34
Bald Man
Right. That's a huge question. And part of that is, you know, you feel like it's gauging. Are you trying to overcharge for your knives? Um, that's the the feeling in there.
00:41:47
Bald Man
Um, When you're doing one knife at a time and one offs and custom things like you do, that's different than what I do. i have a few models that I make and I really don't deviate from those. The only deviation would be custom, you know, different steels or different handled materials or options, right? Like we said, segmented scales versus just a regular micarta, you know, one piece of micarta, uh,
00:42:18
Bald Man
But I do calculate that into each knife. So I calculate the materials for baseline. So that would be a base steel that I use, ah base handle material, micarta, G10, whatever.
00:42:33
Bald Man
I calculate in the hardware, whether it's pins, bolt up. I calculate in, again, the abrasives.
00:42:42
echo_blades
Mm-hmm.
00:42:44
Bald Man
Um, you know, i average that out over like how many knives can I get on a belt? Um, that kind of thing. And I worked that into the price of the knife. Um, and then I add my labor onto that. Um, and so you have to set an hourly labor rate.
00:42:59
Bald Man
Uh, I think where a lot of guys, struggle with that is they think, well, what do I need to make an hour or a week? But you have to look at your, it's a business. And just like I spent years in the automotive industry, automotive repair, our labor rate was not what paid each of us. Or if I was the guy doing the job, it wasn't paying my salary and some of my bosses, it was paying for shop, upkeep, it was paying for all those things. So you, as a business, you have to calculate what are the expenses, taxes, electricity, all that stuff, right?
00:43:41
Bald Man
um So there that does become a little more difficult, but it's not just, well, I need to make, you know, 15 or $20 an hour, whatever you need to make.
00:43:53
Bald Man
You need to, yes, I need to pay myself, but I also need, to pay for the replacement abrasives, replacement steel out of each knife, you need to pay for electricity or insurance or whatever that is, right?
00:44:02
Denis Tyrell
Sure. Sure.
00:44:07
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. My only comment on that is that that's great. Like you're well established, you know, you know what you're doing. You know how long it takes you to do each steps for the guys that are still, um, newish, um, that, and I I've heard,
00:44:24
Denis Tyrell
several people i think fader said this like don't make other people pay for your learning i mean like there there is you need to be careful like even if it takes you whatever 10 15 hours to make a knife it doesn't necessarily mean that the knife is worth that much i mean you you have to yeah i
00:44:31
Bald Man
100%. Right. Yeah.
00:44:49
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, you you got to take that into account and like you know know your worth, know what your knives are, um or what you can sell them for. and ah Obviously, you can't sell them for less than what it costs you to make them, but get past the learning curve before you start assigning your here hourly wage or anything.
00:45:02
Bald Man
Right. Yeah.
00:45:09
Bald Man
A hundred, a hundred, a hundred percent agree. i think there's a, there's a period of learning where you, you're not going to be able to get what you need to out of the knife. And that's either your fault because you're still learning by faults, maybe the wrong term, but it's on you because you're still learning or don't,
00:45:29
Bald Man
you You just need to get your knives out there and keep working on the process. It took, so it took a long time for me to figure those numbers out because I, I wasn't doing enough volume.
00:45:41
Bald Man
So my labor was higher on the knife and where, because I really wanted to zero in on that, I began, um you know, we can't, you can't just clock in on a knife and clock out.
00:45:43
Denis Tyrell
you
00:45:57
Bald Man
It's really hard to do that. Again, i I wanted to figure that out coming from the background I came from of working on cars, i a being flat rate, you get paid what that job, how many hours that job is, whether it takes you that many or not.
00:46:16
Bald Man
um And so I wanted to be able to quantify my labor in some way. And the only way I was able to do that was by starting with, I'm going to take whatever number of knives at one time you're comfortable with and make, let's say, three of this exact same knife. And then As you get comfortable with that, okay, let's bump that up to six or 10 or 20 or 30, whatever that is.
00:46:42
Bald Man
And then you're able to deduct that down a little better um once once you get a higher volume.
00:46:47
Denis Tyrell
Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, let's, let's take what I do out of it. Cause I think it's even harder to go full time and make, you know, do the constant one-offs and without doing batches. I think most guys that are considering this.
00:47:03
Denis Tyrell
are doing batches of the same kind of knife.
00:47:06
Bald Man
Right.
00:47:07
Denis Tyrell
So let's stay in that lane for a second. And the first thing I would tell someone, and this is part of what's going to be in the video, is to to determine if you should do this, if you if it's even feasible, before you get down to calculating, you know what what what you you know, what your hourly rate is and all your consumables and everything like that, the first thing I would figure out is,
00:47:32
Denis Tyrell
what are your monthly bills? What do you, you know, what do you need to make to survive?
00:47:35
Bald Man
Mm-hmm.
00:47:38
Denis Tyrell
And then divide that by the number of knives that you got to make at the price point. Let's say they're whatever. I'm shooting a number out. Let's say they're three 50, right? Which is not crazy. Three 50, $400. Let's just say they're three 50 then.
00:47:58
Denis Tyrell
And you want to make, whatever, let's say it's $7,000, whatever, a month or something like that after taxes or whatever, before, after you decide.
00:48:03
Bald Man
Right.
00:48:06
Bald Man
Right.
00:48:10
Denis Tyrell
But then you got to figure out, okay, you got, ah yeah, that's not California for money.
00:48:12
echo_blades
California money, buddy. $70.
00:48:17
Denis Tyrell
You can't survive from California on that.
00:48:17
echo_blades
i mean
00:48:19
Denis Tyrell
But um then you got to figure out, you know, your your utilities, your, like, go after all of that. Like, i would come at it from that end and figure out, hey, I'm really going to have to make you know, let's say it's, um, 30 knives.
00:48:37
Denis Tyrell
It's probably, let's say it's 40 to 50 knives a month at three 50, because you got to calculate how much it costs you to make them all of your expenses.
00:48:37
Bald Man
Right.
00:48:42
Bald Man
Right.
00:48:48
Denis Tyrell
That's daunting to have to make 30 to 50 knives a month.
00:48:51
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:48:55
Denis Tyrell
um and you know, at that price point, like you better be good at it. You better have your optimization set. So this is why I'm, you know,
00:49:03
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:49:06
Bald Man
i I think the best explanation I've heard, and it was probably probably on Knife Talk, it was probably Jeff said it, because they they've went over, you know, they've had this question a few times. I think the best explanation I've ever heard is if you're asking if it's right, it's not.
00:49:23
echo_blades
I was just about to say, like when are we going to tell 90% of the people, no,
00:49:25
Bald Man
Right?
00:49:27
Bald Man
Right.
00:49:28
Denis Tyrell
yeah that that that is the the first thing i'm going to say in the video is don't do it keep it as a hobby um unless you're whatever you're forced into it or whatever you really really want to try it because you know it's a grind i'm using the air quotes here more than people think it is and
00:49:28
echo_blades
just don't
00:49:28
Bald Man
Right.
00:49:42
Bald Man
Right.
00:49:50
echo_blades
Yeah, I just like if you did some of the numbers you were just throwing out, just say it's 20 or 30 month, right? i mean, that's the the work it takes, the the overhead that you have to you're going to ensue the you know, you're not making profit on, you know, that that price point per knife, right? and all Some of that's got to go back into the shop, back into consumables, all that crap.
00:50:11
echo_blades
But then there's the the actual selling of those. Like, do yeah you have a customer base that can sustain your're your monthly nut, right?
00:50:15
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:50:20
echo_blades
And that's, you know, are you moving that much now?
00:50:20
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:50:24
echo_blades
you know Do you have the customer base to to do that, to be to you know sustain your your livelihood on that?
00:50:24
Bald Man
yeah
00:50:31
echo_blades
that's I think that's the, in my short time being in the in the community, that that has been the most ah common theme of people that have gone full time and then have kind of had to to back out is that you know, it's a, it becomes work, right.
00:50:46
echo_blades
We're doing what we love as a hobby. So there's the dream of doing something that you love and not working, you know, a day in your life, but you quickly turn that into, you know, a job.
00:50:57
echo_blades
And then, you know, but that sustainability is, is solely reliant upon, on you. You're not only your work ethic, but your, your salesmanship. Like there's so many things that go into that recipe that are, you know,
00:51:11
echo_blades
It's not not possible, but I think it's just realistically, there's it's a lofty goal for, you know, and just taking take out the equation of, you know, whatever, wherever you're at, like in the what part of the country you're living at and what what your monthly net is. Yeah.
00:51:29
echo_blades
Yeah, there's there's a lot to that. And I think the the harsh part is, is like if somebody's asking you, you know you don't know ever want to step on somebody's dream, right? You don't want to be the naysayer to you know to discourage somebody from doing something, especially from such a positive community that has been, for me anyways, has been nothing but, well, until...
00:51:40
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:51:50
echo_blades
we started talking about golf or something, but for overly, mostly, you know, just encouraging, supportive, you know, and, and all that stuff. But at some point there, there needs to be an equal, you know, a yin and a yang to that of, of a dose of reality where, you know, it's probably not for you.
00:52:05
Bald Man
Yeah. And I, and I think it's, you know, so the, the, what you can make off of a knife. So back to the business and overhead, right.
00:52:16
Bald Man
If you think, well, I could survive off of, you know, if I sold x amount of $300 knives and say it's but like 30 knives, right. A month and say, well, $300 a knife, 30. Yeah. I could survive off that. Well, the reality is half of that, you know,
00:52:34
Bald Man
half of that needs to go back into buying more material.
00:52:39
echo_blades
Sure.
00:52:39
Bald Man
A quarter of it needs to go to taxes, whatever. um And then another quarter, that's what you're actually going to be surviving off of, right? like And those are rough numbers, but it's not far off.
00:52:48
Denis Tyrell
That's right.
00:52:53
Bald Man
um So really, if you think you can make it off of $300, you need to go back and do that math a little different. You need to say, can I survive off a quarter of that?
00:53:05
Bald Man
And that's really the number you need to be looking for. um so and And so that's the financial side of it.
00:53:08
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:53:13
Bald Man
The other side is that's banking on. You're going to sell that every month.
00:53:18
Denis Tyrell
That's right.
00:53:19
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah. so um'm
00:53:19
Bald Man
and And if you're in any business, you know, some months are way better than others and some months are way worse than others. And if you cannot pad that, um then you're going to be out.
00:53:34
Bald Man
um And even if you're established, even if you're doing well, um those those months, if you're new to it, that's hard. it It takes it, not only does it take a hit in your finances to where things are stretched, but it takes a hit on your psyche, on your your emotional well-being.
00:53:44
echo_blades
yeah
Resources and Community in Knife Making
00:53:55
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:53:56
echo_blades
Yeah, i don't I don't think they factor in the the into the equation that they've now they're and now entering the world of retail, right?
00:53:56
Denis Tyrell
Right.
00:54:02
echo_blades
And anybody that's doing retail understands that you're you're not there's consistency is probably the furthest thing from reality in those you know in that type of ah business, right?
00:54:02
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:54:13
echo_blades
You are going to have those big months, and then you can't you have to you know have that... whatever, you know, surplus you have carry you through the lower parts. And you got a guy like me, that's going to new golf clubs. are yeah ah You can easily find yourself, you know, and in a spot where you you stretch yourself too thin.
00:54:32
echo_blades
And yeah.
00:54:33
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. And not all, you know, like we've all had some knife designs that are duds. Like you think it's cool.
00:54:41
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:54:41
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:54:42
Denis Tyrell
You get it out there and nobody wants it. I know I've got a couple of those that like take a really, really long time to sell.
00:54:46
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:54:49
Denis Tyrell
And I look at it and go, yeah, not making that again.
00:54:50
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:54:52
echo_blades
Yep.
00:54:52
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:54:53
Denis Tyrell
You know,
00:54:53
echo_blades
So I think yeah one one tool I know is is is for fact is if you are going to, you know, take your throw your hat in that ring, then you need to have some reliable sources for your consumables. And our boy Lawrence Lake over at Maritime Knife Supply is the man who will take care. He's going to have the best prices for all your abrasives, steel, tooling, you know,
00:55:16
echo_blades
Drill, you know, you name it, he's got it um at ah at a good price, fast shipping. So you can can get those quick orders turned around quick. um Lawrence Lake Maritime Knife Supply for all of your knife making needs.
00:55:30
Denis Tyrell
That's right. go get them.
00:55:31
Bald Man
All right.
00:55:32
echo_blades
Yeah, and you might want to even consider some ah some awesome handle material. I would go check out our boy Matt at Grip Tech Composites and take advantage. Right now would be an awesome time because you can double up on some discounts here and join the the weekly newsletter that he puts out.
00:55:50
echo_blades
right now that has a discounted code for the color of the week. This week is fluorescent yellow. um And again, ah sign up for that newsletter. And every week, there'll be a new color our featured color and a discount code associated with that. and You can take advantage of the GripX, GripX 3D, LimitList, a handful of other um types of skills and handle material that he has. You can load up that code or your cart with the the code
00:56:21
echo_blades
ah Triple T 10 and double that discount. Double discount, double check. Is that even, can you do that? Like, can you use State Farm's double discount?
00:56:31
Denis Tyrell
but
00:56:34
echo_blades
Anyway, somebody's going to get it. ah Yeah, but that's awesome.
00:56:36
Denis Tyrell
It wasn't me.
00:56:38
echo_blades
you You don't know the discount double check State Farm commercial?
00:56:42
Denis Tyrell
No, not really.
00:56:43
echo_blades
Come on, man. Jesus,
00:56:46
Denis Tyrell
No, I don't.
00:56:48
echo_blades
yeah. yeah And this is where this the show comes to a screeching halt. i don't
00:56:53
Denis Tyrell
Sorry, I don't watch all the commercials that you do.
00:56:55
echo_blades
this is I don't watch many either, but that was a good one. yeah Aaron Rodgers, Jake from Save Man. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Window Lickers. You can't fucking help them, dude. just stand there and stare out the window. sure
00:57:11
Denis Tyrell
Oh.
00:57:13
Bald Man
There is one other thing you need if you're going to go full time, and that's you need every outlet you can get to sell your knives.
00:57:21
echo_blades
Hmm. Good point.
00:57:22
Bald Man
And you know where you can sell them at? You can go to the drop point from the Boys at Skiff workshop, and you can get your knives listed for free.
00:57:25
echo_blades
Tell me, there you go.
00:57:33
Bald Man
There are thousands of collectors that get that newsletter and that's what I use. I use the drop point every week. Steve, we hit up an email, tell him what I want to drop that week, what I want him to promote and he promotes it. It is great.
00:57:50
Denis Tyrell
Uh, yeah, I think everybody loves the price point and the audience. I think those are two awesome things about that.
00:57:57
Denis Tyrell
Um, yeah. And of course, from the minds of the guys at skiff workshop, where I get all my premium bearings from. uh, yeah, go check out the drop point.
00:57:57
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:58:07
Denis Tyrell
Awesome. Uh, I always see your stuff on the drop point, Brent.
00:58:13
Bald Man
Yeah, every week, man. Steve will, if I forget to email him, he sends me an email usually. And just what do you want to promote? And whether I'm dropping something new or I want to promote something that's up on the website, he does it.
00:58:28
Bald Man
It's great.
00:58:28
Denis Tyrell
Cool. ah Do we want to do some maker spotlights?
00:58:35
echo_blades
Sure.
00:58:35
Bald Man
Let's go.
00:58:37
Denis Tyrell
All right. do you want me to go first?
00:58:39
Denis Tyrell
um
00:58:39
echo_blades
Yes.
00:58:40
echo_blades
You had a great idea.
00:58:43
Denis Tyrell
This week I have, I got to open it up. I have Carter underscore Cornwall underscore knives. This is um his name is carter cornwall which caught me by surprise because the cornwall is the city i used to live in in canada but um uh just some really cool knives um i was spinning through these uh the other day um some really cool segmented scales and uh what one of the things that caught me is he had made his own carbon fiber which i thought was really cool i've never uh
00:59:20
Denis Tyrell
contemplated that and um i was talking to my uh shop helper cj he's 15 and he said oh yeah i made some carbon fiber for some bike parts i'm like what gotta get into this i gotta make some carbon fiber and he's like ah yeah it's actually pretty easy and uh i love carbon fiber and that shit's expensive so uh yeah yeah
00:59:33
Bald Man
Interesting. I just gave him a follow. That's a good one.
00:59:45
echo_blades
Yeah, same. same
00:59:45
Bald Man
Yeah, he's got some nice stuff.
00:59:47
Denis Tyrell
yeah So, Brent, who do you have?
00:59:53
Bald Man
So I Boylston Blades. Boylston underscore Blades. He's a guy that I met recently. He's here in Florida.
01:00:06
Bald Man
And a he reached out to me. We connected. And he makes some great stuff. he does He's newer to knife making, I think within the last year and a half or so.
01:00:19
Bald Man
um And, yeah, he's making some really cool stuff. He does a lot of really cool segmented scales, glow-in-the-dark liners, and does
01:00:28
Denis Tyrell
I love those little circles he puts on the knife on his handles.
01:00:32
Bald Man
Yeah, super cool.
01:00:33
Denis Tyrell
That's really cool.
01:00:36
Bald Man
Yeah, he is really into the detail.
01:00:38
Denis Tyrell
Are those pins?
01:00:39
Bald Man
i mean
01:00:39
Denis Tyrell
Is he actually putting pins there?
01:00:40
Bald Man
yeah Yeah, that's what I asked him because he brought some of his knives um and yeah, i was like, are those pens or just he goes, yeah, they're pens.
01:00:41
Denis Tyrell
That's cool.
01:00:49
Denis Tyrell
ah so he does like a quarter, a three sixteenths and a one eighth pin. and if that's cool.
01:00:54
Bald Man
Yeah, super cool.
01:00:55
Denis Tyrell
That's a really nice accent. I like that a lot. I've never seen anybody do that with pins like that, like that different sizing.
01:01:02
Bald Man
Yeah. Yeah, super. And most of those, like if you look through those pictures, some of those pins, they're glow in the dark. And he does like a a night shot with them where you can see that.
01:01:14
Denis Tyrell
Very cool.
01:01:17
Bald Man
So yeah, really not really good good guy and killer killer knives.
01:01:17
Denis Tyrell
Love it. That's a good one.
01:01:24
Denis Tyrell
I like that the second one in his profile. the That's just a sleek handle. I like it a lot.
01:01:32
Bald Man
Yeah. Yeah, he does a lot of cool curves and just angles, really really nice stuff.
01:01:40
Denis Tyrell
That one almost looks like it could be a folder. Yeah,
01:01:43
Bald Man
Right?
01:01:46
Denis Tyrell
that's cool one. Very nice. Mr. Jared, who do you have?
01:01:53
echo_blades
Yeah, I have ah Brian Hindenkamp from Tortuga Blade Works. After seeing his stuff pop up over the last couple of weeks, I just like we were talking earlier, um really, really happy to see him get after it um again after some time off.
01:02:03
Denis Tyrell
Thank you.
01:02:14
echo_blades
and uh always been a big fan of his his work um yeah that shipwreck patina that copper wash stuff is is awesome um you know i always love to see somebody that's uh forging out those those small fixed blades is um i think that's a uh it's a challenge um um, to, you know, to get, get them out there, finished in, in, in quantity and stuff, but, uh, he bangs them out and, uh, I'm just super happy to see him back and, uh, can't wait to see what else he has, going out, um, are coming up for us.
01:02:56
echo_blades
Um, that's yeah. He's got 21.2 thousand followers.
01:03:02
Denis Tyrell
Wow. got lot followers.
01:03:04
echo_blades
Yeah. I remember him blowing up there for a minute too. Um, and all well-deserved. So, um, yeah, like I said, just super happy to, to see him going.
01:03:09
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:03:14
echo_blades
Um, and then, Boylston underscore blades has 449 followers. So let's ah see if we can't bump that up. I agree, dude. that That's some really awesome stuff that he was putting out.
01:03:31
echo_blades
And then Carter has 1678 as well. So yeah, let's bump those up. And yeah, it was really good spotlights this week, guys.
01:03:39
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I like them.
01:03:40
echo_blades
Well done.
01:03:41
Denis Tyrell
I like them. um If you guys are going to heat treat some knives, what are you going to use? Got to use that Even Heat Kiln. Family owned and operated since 1948. That's older than me.
01:03:57
Denis Tyrell
ah Building the highest...
01:03:58
echo_blades
I still think that's true still think that's the year you graduated, but yeah, I don't know.
01:03:59
Denis Tyrell
What?
01:04:04
Denis Tyrell
Uh, no, the year my mom graduated, maybe my, my grandmother building,
01:04:04
echo_blades
That's just me.
01:04:05
echo_blades
All right. Okay. All right. It's been a long time. Well established.
01:04:13
Denis Tyrell
building the highest heat, uh, quality heat treating ovens available. I have two, uh, Mr. Jared has two Brent, Brent, you have one? You have one.
01:04:24
echo_blades
Soon.
01:04:25
Bald Man
i I do.
01:04:26
Denis Tyrell
you do See, everyone's got an even heat. um So go after it. They are awesome. I love mine. um I won't be using it for a while, but
01:04:38
echo_blades
I will.
01:04:40
Denis Tyrell
yeah.
01:04:41
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:04:42
Denis Tyrell
You're going to get busy getting heat treated? New knives?
01:04:44
echo_blades
I have, yeah, I got all kinds of stuff going.
01:04:44
Denis Tyrell
What?
01:04:47
echo_blades
There's some that are almost done. Some are mostly almost done. Some of that are Jared. Hey, shout out to Micah Dunn. He, uh, he reached, uh, Jareding expert level master, last week, but I just actually was, uh, checking, uh, the, uh,
01:05:04
echo_blades
the interweb Instagram feed. The only difference between a guy like myself and a master Jared or like Micah is he's already got like all of them ground out.
01:05:16
echo_blades
So hats off to you, my friend.
01:05:20
Denis Tyrell
Well, he's he's getting ready for Blade, Texas.
01:05:20
echo_blades
and
01:05:22
Denis Tyrell
That's the difference.
01:05:24
echo_blades
That dude hustles, man. just that that I've been over, had the pleasure to hang out with him in his shop and he's dude, he's, he's he's a fucking hustler. So yeah,
01:05:33
Bald Man
He's in that full-time knife maker that's just hustling after it crowd.
01:05:37
Denis Tyrell
Is he full-time?
01:05:37
echo_blades
He is, but he's not.
01:05:38
echo_blades
He's not full-time.
01:05:39
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I didn't think so.
01:05:40
Bald Man
No?
01:05:40
echo_blades
No, that's what's even more impressive.
01:05:40
Denis Tyrell
No.
01:05:41
Bald Man
Oh, really?
01:05:42
echo_blades
You you want to feel bad about your but your output?
01:05:42
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah.
01:05:45
echo_blades
Just go to watch a ah week's worth of Micah getting busy.
01:05:47
Bald Man
He's hustling.
01:05:50
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:05:50
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:05:50
Bald Man
Yeah, he's getting after it
01:05:52
echo_blades
So.
01:05:52
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. He's going to be a Texas, right?
01:05:55
echo_blades
Oh, for sure.
01:05:55
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Good. Good.
01:05:57
echo_blades
Yep, for sure. We're going to go, Micah, we're going to go track down the secret tacos again, for sure. That's that's a must. So you're in for it.
01:06:05
Denis Tyrell
Really? Didn't you, didn't you like lose them one day and you couldn't find them?
01:06:09
echo_blades
Well, that's the thing is like this, this, the, the quick dirty story is a couple of years back. They were just after the show, they were going out for a drink or something like that. And there was this random lady at a bar that kind of had a little,
01:06:26
echo_blades
part of the, of the bar and with a little taco stand. And then the next year they stumbled upon the same person again. So then they kind of asked like, well, like, where are you like blocking down?
01:06:37
echo_blades
It's like, doesn't know. She doesn't have like a ah spot. So this is the, when I was there, it's not homeless dude, but she's just a transient at, and um they were talking this taco up
01:06:42
Denis Tyrell
So the homeless taco lady is who you're trying to find?
Tool Promotions and Humorous Interactions
01:06:51
echo_blades
and ah they, they,
01:06:54
echo_blades
but able to find her again last year. So we got to hunt hunt them down, but I think they, she actually landed at a spot this year. So I'm looking forward. They were, they were good, well-priced and, and super good too. So
01:07:04
Denis Tyrell
Street tacos?
01:07:06
echo_blades
ah sure.
01:07:07
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. like
01:07:09
echo_blades
Come on, let's wipe this thing up.
01:07:09
Bald Man
Bart, we'll call Bart.
01:07:10
Denis Tyrell
Not Taco Bell tacos, right?
01:07:11
Bald Man
huh
01:07:12
echo_blades
Are they street tacos?
01:07:15
Bald Man
Sounds like they're bar tacos.
01:07:15
Denis Tyrell
yeah
01:07:18
echo_blades
Yes. They're not crunchy tacos from Taco Bell. Yes, they're,
01:07:22
Denis Tyrell
okay thank you
01:07:23
echo_blades
They're tacos autentica. Febrero.
01:07:30
echo_blades
But anyways, yeah, that's that's what's on the one night that's on the agenda.
01:07:31
Bald Man
and
01:07:34
Denis Tyrell
oh i was actually looking up steakhouses i cannot find the steakhouse i think it closed the one that parker and i went to because i was i was literally going to make a reservation but uh i couldn't i couldn't find don't think it's i don't think it's there anymore
01:07:36
echo_blades
so
01:07:48
echo_blades
Don't worry. I've already got the ah the the stuff going with Kauai.
01:07:54
Denis Tyrell
Oh, okay.
01:07:54
echo_blades
there's a there's a There's a good story behind this this invite. We'll see how how it goes, though.
01:08:00
Bald Man
good
01:08:02
Denis Tyrell
All right.
01:08:02
echo_blades
Yeah, I'm talking to you, Mr.
01:08:04
echo_blades
Baker.
01:08:06
Denis Tyrell
Just tell me where I'm supposed to be and when.
01:08:06
echo_blades
yeah oh yeah. He's going to tell us.
01:08:10
Denis Tyrell
Oh, all right.
01:08:11
echo_blades
And then not tell us. And then tell us. And then, yeah, all right. It's good.
01:08:16
Denis Tyrell
Okay, there's a story there that I don't know.
01:08:16
echo_blades
I've done my part. And there's a good one there, dude. And it's it's it's hitting hard right now. So I should get a fucking middle finger tomorrow.
01:08:27
Denis Tyrell
you don't know You know what else hits hard? A two bastards fat peeing hammer.
01:08:32
echo_blades
Fuck, oh my god, I've been waiting 102 episodes for you to put a banger frickin' intro like that. Holy shit, it give it to me, Dennis. That was awesome.
01:08:42
Denis Tyrell
I will be using that this weekend in my course because that's my go-to hammer, especially for students. So we will be whacking the hell out of some steel this weekend with a two, two bastards, fat peen hammer because Jared, tell me.
01:08:53
echo_blades
Get it hot and hit it hard.
01:09:02
echo_blades
Ain't it grand to have a fat peen in your hand?
01:09:06
Denis Tyrell
That's right.
01:09:07
echo_blades
It is so grand.
01:09:07
Denis Tyrell
And after that, we'll be taking those knives and we will be grinding them on the Ameribrate Fastback
01:09:15
echo_blades
Woo!
01:09:16
Denis Tyrell
ah we will be doing some damage on that steel with that amazing grinder, the drop-away platen, all the fancy stuff. So if you need a grinder, go check Ameribraid.com. While you're there, check out the Hyperdisk. It is ah buffing wheel. It's a disc grinder. You name it, it can do it.
01:09:38
Denis Tyrell
So go check them out. And ah Jared is anxiously awaiting his Fastback
01:09:44
echo_blades
It's so close. It's so close.
01:09:47
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. All righty.
01:09:50
echo_blades
Anxiously.
01:09:50
Denis Tyrell
Okay.
01:09:52
echo_blades
Dude, i I want to keep that momentum going, bro, but that was fantastic. I just want you to know i have been waiting a long time for you to come through like that.
01:10:04
Denis Tyrell
ah
01:10:05
echo_blades
That was the best I have heard come out of your face.
01:10:09
Bald Man
I mean, if if people could see how jittery Jared – he cannot sit still right now because he is so excited.
01:10:14
Denis Tyrell
I think he had like three Zins in his mouth or something. but
01:10:18
echo_blades
I have 10, but yeah, in they and their freeze, thanks to my my good friends in the Pacific Northwest who have a shitty football team. But ah yeah, dude, that was fucking phenomenal.
01:10:29
echo_blades
Speaking of hitting hard. who God.
01:10:33
Denis Tyrell
Jared's a little spun up right now.
01:10:35
echo_blades
No, that was just, yeah. Whatever gets me going, that was fucking fantastic, Dennis.
01:10:40
Denis Tyrell
All right. glad glad you Glad you approve.
01:10:47
echo_blades
Here comes the brakes. now you you guys get my excitement now? It's very rare he keeps this thing going. then
01:10:57
Denis Tyrell
So what else? what's What else is going on this Anything fun this week you guys are doing?
01:11:03
Denis Tyrell
No.
01:11:05
Denis Tyrell
Jared, don't you don't you dare talk about golf.
01:11:05
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:11:05
echo_blades
Great.
01:11:07
Denis Tyrell
I don't want to hear it.
01:11:08
echo_blades
Why?
01:11:10
Bald Man
Oh, speaking of, I do have, you know, last time was on, we did some chat GPT fun.
01:11:15
Denis Tyrell
Oh, yeah?
01:11:16
echo_blades
strength, adaptability, endurance.
01:11:18
Bald Man
Oh.
01:11:22
echo_blades
Whether you're camping with your family or track and game, the Sable.
01:11:22
Bald Man
So,
01:11:28
Bald Man
So I got some taglines for the Triple T podcast, thanks to Chad GPT.
01:11:34
Denis Tyrell
Oh, let's hear it.
01:11:34
Bald Man
And one of them, one of them I read at the beginning of the show, which was great. So I got like the top three here I'm going to do. The top one was the Triple T podcast featuring Dennis Tyrell and Jared Sandoval, his emotional support golfer.
01:11:42
echo_blades
Hit me.
01:11:51
Bald Man
That's pretty great.
01:11:51
echo_blades
okay Yes, Thunder Vest City.
01:11:53
Bald Man
These are Chad GPT, man.
01:11:53
echo_blades
Let's go.
01:11:55
Bald Man
It tailored these. It's great.
01:11:57
Denis Tyrell
What, it did that?
01:11:59
Bald Man
Yeah, I gave it some prompts and yeah.
01:12:00
Denis Tyrell
Oh, okay. Okay.
01:12:02
Bald Man
Forged in fire, lost in the fairway.
01:12:08
echo_blades
it.
01:12:09
Bald Man
yeah
01:12:10
echo_blades
I love it.
01:12:12
Denis Tyrell
ah Yeah, I like that one.
01:12:14
Bald Man
Sharp edges and dull wedges.
01:12:20
Denis Tyrell
um I think the second one's the winner. That's the...
01:12:24
Bald Man
that one's pretty great.
01:12:24
echo_blades
That's good.
01:12:25
Bald Man
Forged in fire and lost in the
01:12:25
echo_blades
yeah
Creative Knife Naming and Product Promotions
01:12:27
Bald Man
fairway.
01:12:27
Denis Tyrell
yeah yeah
01:12:27
echo_blades
It's the safest place to be on the golf course, right in the middle of fairway.
01:12:31
Bald Man
It's a great one. So, ChatGPT, back for the win.
01:12:34
echo_blades
That's awesome.
01:12:37
echo_blades
Strength, adaptability, endurance
01:12:43
echo_blades
in a world.
01:12:48
echo_blades
That's so good.
01:12:49
Denis Tyrell
ah yeah that's gonna come up in my uh video this week of uh Should you go full-time? How to market your knives. Use ChatGBT for the descriptions.
01:12:57
echo_blades
That's right.
01:12:57
Bald Man
I did... Well, it's funny, I got asked the other week, how come your descriptions for your knives, like some of them are really short and some of them are long?
01:13:09
Denis Tyrell
which ones did brent do ah
01:13:12
Bald Man
That's what I said.
01:13:13
Denis Tyrell
ah
01:13:13
Bald Man
I'm like, well, as time went on, i leaned a little on ChatGPT to help me write them and I haven't went back to write more for the the older blades.
01:13:17
echo_blades
yeah
01:13:23
echo_blades
Why not?
01:13:25
Bald Man
Oh, it's coming. I'm working on it.
01:13:27
echo_blades
That's good.
01:13:28
Bald Man
Yeah.
01:13:29
echo_blades
Oh my God.
01:13:30
Denis Tyrell
yeah Jared's laughing. I've never seen a write-up of one of his knives.
01:13:35
echo_blades
Because cause I can't. I refuse.
01:13:38
Bald Man
And then
01:13:39
echo_blades
ah Otherwise, it'll come out just like this. Strength and adaptability.
01:13:42
Bald Man
you got the intrepid.
01:13:46
Denis Tyrell
It's whatever it's meant to whatever it's meant to cut with the word cutter after.
01:13:47
echo_blades
oh
01:13:51
Denis Tyrell
that That's it.
01:13:52
echo_blades
That's right. It's called originality, dude. i mean, get get with it. ah there You got a goose cutter, a wave cutter, a cow cutter, a rage cutter, a panini cutter.
01:13:58
Bald Man
a
01:14:03
echo_blades
Like, come on, man.
01:14:04
Bald Man
and then you got the intrepid
01:14:06
echo_blades
The intrepid. Yes. Yes.
01:14:09
Denis Tyrell
that That was the first one, wasn't it?
01:14:10
Bald Man
It does not.
01:14:10
echo_blades
that's it
01:14:11
Denis Tyrell
Huh.
01:14:11
echo_blades
Yes. I can't. Yeah. for For the sake of not disclosing some top secret information. Yeah. that was That's what that was.
01:14:20
Denis Tyrell
I...
01:14:21
echo_blades
And then it's like, there's another one, the reverb, because I was trying to go on some, because I i really dig.
01:14:27
Bald Man
Echo, the echo, reverb.
01:14:28
echo_blades
oh yeah. Well, I was just going to lead right into here because like our buddy, ah Travis Haynes from Pelican Paste has an awesome with with Bird Forge. He has like an endless amount of, you know, birds to to name knives after. And I pick something that has like two, whatever those things are. Echo, echo.
01:14:47
echo_blades
Yeah. ah ah But speaking of Travis Hanks from Pelican Pace, if you're in the market for some premium wax, go check out PelicanPace.com, the makers of hard wax, soft wax, Pelican oil, hand solve, and so the soap and the cast iron seasoning butternut.
01:15:03
echo_blades
um Travis an awesome dude, awesome product ah with many applications, not just for your knives. I think last week were just talking about, you know, um even protecting them while you're making them. So if you're in one of those high rusty areas.
01:15:20
echo_blades
ah like my buddy Brent and Travis are. um You can protect it in all stages of of making the knife, the handles, on and on and on. You can also get your ah custom tins made for um the the smaller guys that you can include with your orders. So go on ahead and load up your cart with all those products and use the discount code TTT10 for 10% off.
01:15:44
Denis Tyrell
That's right.
01:15:45
echo_blades
Mm-hmm.
01:15:47
Denis Tyrell
All righty boys. is it that time? We're an hour and 15 in. Are you guys going to surprise me with something else?
01:15:58
Bald Man
No surprises here.
01:16:00
Denis Tyrell
Mr. Jared, do you look confused.
01:16:01
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah. I have, maybe it's not appropriate. Maybe I'll hold on to this one.
01:16:08
Bald Man
You about to go get something to
01:16:10
echo_blades
Yeah. I'm about to go get some sausages.
01:16:12
Denis Tyrell
What? Okay, now you got to talk about that one.
01:16:17
Denis Tyrell
I'm reading his notes.
01:16:17
echo_blades
So from this, from this day forward for the rest of your lives, you can order sausages and you can say sausages. no one will be the wiser.
01:16:29
echo_blades
And,
01:16:30
Denis Tyrell
That's your...
01:16:32
echo_blades
Again, screeching halt. Train.
01:16:34
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, yeah.
01:16:35
echo_blades
yeah
01:16:38
echo_blades
That's it.
01:16:39
Denis Tyrell
Okay.
01:16:39
Denis Tyrell
Okay.
01:16:39
echo_blades
I will never say sausages again.
01:16:41
echo_blades
It'll always be. Yes, sausages.
01:16:44
Bald Man
Wait, did you just say it? What'd you say?
01:16:47
echo_blades
I said sausages.
01:16:51
Denis Tyrell
from the mind of a five-year-old.
01:16:54
echo_blades
I'm telling you, you think that our audience is full of mature people. I think you're on the wrong
Wrap-Up and Farewell
01:17:01
echo_blades
planet, sir. You must be living still back in Canada.
01:17:05
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, maybe.
01:17:05
echo_blades
All right.
01:17:07
Denis Tyrell
All right, folks. We are out. Thanks for joining us. We will see you next time.
01:17:28
Denis Tyrell
And that's a wrap.
01:17:28
echo_blades
And that's a wrap.
01:17:29
Denis Tyrell
um
01:17:30
echo_blades
Fuck, I'm pointing to it. We can't take it.
01:17:33
Bald Man
Peace out.