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Hellraiser 2022
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We discuss Hellraiser 2022 available now on Hulu
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Introduction and Setting the Stage
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Speaker
All right, welcome back to Fright Central. I'm Doc and I'm back here again with
Keck's Misjudgment on 'Mother'
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Speaker
Keck. And I believe you had a recant from our Mother episode about the last 30 minutes that you wanted to clarify. Oh, yeah. Oh, you little son of a bitch. You didn't mention that when we were talking before. Yeah. You're right. The end of Mother, I just lost. My time became very convoluted for me and
00:00:31
Speaker
Welcome to the world of light.
00:00:47
Speaker
Somehow I just misjudged the last half hour as like the last 10 minutes and you are completely right. The, it was a full 30 minutes of complete chaos. I for some reason felt that it was like half or less than half that time. So.
00:01:07
Speaker
Yeah, I was completely mistaken about Mother. The last 30 minutes, which equivocates to a third of the movie, was complete fucking anarchy. It was not the very end. I was very mistaken. Thank you for putting me on the spot. Yeah, I tried to tell you that. I mean, that was coming from the director. It wasn't just me talking out of my ass about it. So I think I think we kind of had a different notion
00:01:35
Speaker
of like when things were really out of control. But I think you felt that things got out of control like totally out of hand before I did. For me, it was like when like, no, I mean, it was the same. It was basically for me, it was when people first entered the house when the crowd started coming in.
00:01:59
Speaker
And when that crowd started coming in, it was almost exactly one half hour before the movie ended. So I was wrong in every sense and you were completely right. I probably should not have questioned the director on his own film, but you know what I mean? Like, I don't know, sometimes like in Rick and Morty, you know, when you want to,
00:02:24
Speaker
Uh, so boxes of cereal, you gotta step on the gas sometimes. And, you know, I felt like the director might've been wrong about his own movie. Yeah. I mean, there, there have definitely been directors wrong about, uh, movies before, which, uh, is not the case, I think in the one we're going to talk about today, which is Hellraiser.
Hellraiser Movies Count
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Speaker
Yeah.
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Speaker
Uh, the 2022, uh, one that went straight to, uh, Hulu, which I understand why it went to Hulu because the last fucking, what, eight of them, nine of them, I can't, uh, how many, you had a count of how many hell raisers there were. Yeah. Oh shit. I didn't. All right. Hold on. Um, we're just going to do, I'm not going to do the years. Uh, total count is fine. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11.
00:03:15
Speaker
11 hell raisers. I mean, I only think two of them are really good, but I really enjoy hell on earth. The third one. Well, I enjoyed, I enjoyed the first three, obviously. Um, I liked hell razor bloodline. Um, I remember, uh, there being another hell razor after bloodline.
00:03:41
Speaker
that I thought was like watchable, like as bad horror. I think Inferno was watchable. Yes, that is the one. But I watched Hellraiser Judgment, which is the film previous to this one. That was from February of 2018.
00:04:01
Speaker
And it wasn't a great Hellraiser movie, but it was watchable. It was entertaining. The story was like somewhat full. The acting was...
00:04:17
Speaker
But the story was kind of cool. It was a different take on the whole Hellraiser thing. And if you are a fan of the Hellraiser franchise, I think it's worth a watch. You know what I mean? I do.
Reviewing Hellraiser Judgment
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I thought it was like an interesting take.
00:04:36
Speaker
Especially the ending, I really did not see the fucking ending coming. There was a bit of a twist at the end. If you are a big time fan of the Hellraiser franchise, I think it's worth the look. But, you know what I mean? I would say only for people that are big fans of the franchise. If you let that one slip by, compared to how terrible this franchise has become over the years,
00:05:05
Speaker
that one was a vast improvement, put it that way.
Debate: Hellraiser 2022's Quality
00:05:11
Speaker
Yeah, okay. Well, I mean, yeah, this one I thought was like the best one since probably the second one, in my opinion. Since the Hellraiser II Hellbound, you're going all the way back to the second 1988? Yeah. Really? Yeah. I completely disagree with that. But
00:05:32
Speaker
I would say that this one is probably the best Hellraiser in the past 24 years. Yeah. What was, what was your last, where would you rank it in your, uh, uh, borderline, Hellraiser in space? I just watched it recently and I thought borderline was the last good, well,
00:06:00
Speaker
Good is definitely a very subjective term for the Hellraiser franchise, but it was the last decent Hellraiser movie I had seen. I thought it beat this one out, even though it was Hellraiser in Space, which is ridiculous.
00:06:18
Speaker
Yeah, I thought that that was probably the last decent Hellraiser, but this was my favorite Hellraiser since 1996. Yeah.
Streaming Releases Discussion
00:06:29
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, they were all kind of. Yeah, they were all kind of.
00:06:34
Speaker
you know, straight to video after that one. So this one was never gonna make it into theaters, unlike Prey, which I thought could have and should have been in theaters. But I also understand because of the last Predator movie, it was pretty terrible that I understand why they released it. But this one was always gonna be released, you know, straight to streaming. I don't think it's ever gonna get a theatrical. But I would have liked to see it in theaters.
00:06:59
Speaker
Yeah, I would have liked to see theaters because I thought it was pretty good and especially compared to some of the crap I've seen recently like smile and and some other ones. You saw smile. Yes, I did see smile. Now, obviously, I don't want to get into it because that'll take us on a totally unnecessary sidebar. But in a word, would you describe smile as?
00:07:24
Speaker
I would describe it, not in one word, but I would describe it as. I was going to say bad. Bad. Yeah. But, uh, okay. I would say it's, uh, it follows as a better version of, uh, the, the pretty much a very similar story. Gotcha. But I thought the marketing was great for, for smile, but I just thought the movie was bad. Agreed.
00:07:46
Speaker
I didn't see the movie, but I did think the marketing was effective. Anyway, this new one was directed by David Bruckner. He did The Ritual, Southbound, and Night House, and he did a segment of the original VHS.
David Bruckner's Filmography
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Speaker
He did Lighthouse? No, Nighthouse. The Nighthouse. Oh, I thought you were saying Lighthouse. I was like, damn, dude, that's a different, that's a fucking different project. Go from Lighthouse to Hellraiser. I never saw a Nighthouse. Lighthouse was pretty good. I liked it. Yeah. Yeah. That came out last year.
00:08:27
Speaker
And so he's like, uh, I, I'm not, I've never heard of the director before, but like, he's like been entrenched in a directing bar for a while now. Yeah. I mean, uh, there's Netflix, uh, movie, um, the ritual, uh, was pretty popular. I enjoyed that movie and had a good, uh, creature in that. And it's about like, uh, guys like getting lost in the woods on like a hiking trip and, you know, the encounter, like a creature in the woods. Uh, that one was, that one was pretty good. Kind of, uh,
00:08:56
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been done before, but, you know, but it was good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, if it was good, it was good. Yeah. That's really all that's important. And, uh, this, uh, this is kind of a new take on, uh, the, well, this, well, we're talking about Hillary's or, uh, 2022 now. Um, it would they, when they announced it, it was supposed to be like,
00:09:16
Speaker
apparently closer to the original short story, but his original movie is like 90 percent, you know, the short story. You know what I mean? It's so close, the short story as it is. So like, I don't see why you would do that. But and this one's not at all like once you see the movie, you'll realize it's not.
Plot Introduction and Puzzle Box
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This one's about a young woman struggling with addiction who comes in to possession of the puzzle box unaware of the purpose
00:09:43
Speaker
to summon the Cenobites. And just to kind of go through it a little bit before I get into my review, like a deeper review, but it's basically starts out with a rich guy acquiring the box and he gets somebody to solve it for him to unleash the Cenobites. So he can like, it kind of does like a Wishmaster-esque thing where it like grants him
00:10:12
Speaker
a wish but of course it's you know there's always an evil side to that there's a twist on it and then like years later after that he's gone missing um this woman is you know uh recovering like addict and uh she comes into possession with uh with a box through her uh boyfriend who like you know introduces her to like hey we're gonna go rob this rich like um
00:10:39
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warehouse or wherever that nobody guards and she's like, you know, kind of drawn to it and then she opens it up but it doesn't cut her and it accidentally like cuts her brother and like she goes missing and it's her attempt to kind of recover him. You should just backtrack a little bit. This Hellraiser introduced a new element.
00:11:03
Speaker
And that is when somebody and this is captured in the opening scene of the movie, which I really liked a lot because the opening scene features a guy where if you had no idea what movie you were watching.
00:11:22
Speaker
And you saw the way this guy was dressed and the way this guy's face looked, you would be like, is this a Hellraiser movie? Like the look of that guy and the club he was in the environment. Like if you had no idea what you were watching, you just saw that guy. You'd be like, damn, dude.
00:11:39
Speaker
That guy looks like he's about to be in the Hellraiser movie or something. Like you would just be able to get down. I was like, wow, that's awesome. But like the opening scene, you know, you obviously realize that like somebody's aware of the box is actively using the box and working with the Cinebikes. You know, he references LaVeyith and the new feature that the box has is when, I don't know, I guess when you solve a portion
00:12:09
Speaker
a portion of the puzzle, a knife pops out, like a spike comes out, and if it cuts you, then that basically gives the cinnabites the power to come get you. If it doesn't cut you and you fuck with it, it seems to only allow the cinnabites to kind of haunt you.
00:12:34
Speaker
But if it cuts you, then you are there. They're never going to stop coming. Yeah. And it's like, and if you're in possession of it, it's like, hey, like if you don't get somebody to like, if you don't pass on the curse of this, you know, pass it to get the blood sacrifice, we're going to take you, but we're going to give you some time to do it.
00:12:56
Speaker
Well hang on, I don't want to get too ahead because that's not until the end when she gets cut. When she first messes with the box, the knife pops out, the spike, but it doesn't cut her at all. Yeah, no, but I'm going to talk about the beginning still. Like when he like lets the other guy, you know, take the cut for him. He's like, oh, is this going to give me something? And he's like, no, but it's going to give me something at that point. I'm like, yeah, I'm not opening the chip then. Yeah.
00:13:25
Speaker
but uh yes yeah that was that was a bad move that he did but i was just saying the new feature is that this spike if the spike doesn't get you though it seems like you know you escaped from the worst of it but like
00:13:41
Speaker
you still don't want to be fucking with the box that was the main thing because it seems like the only way to completely avoid like contact with the cinnabites is to stay away from the fucking box don't be don't fuck with the box yourself and don't be around anyone else that's fucking with box
00:14:05
Speaker
That's been a general theme of all the Hellraiser movies, but the knife coming out and taking your blood, that was a new feature that had never been involved.
00:14:19
Speaker
incorporate it into any of the other hellraiser movies. And the fact that this box takes different forms and represents different things, which I thought was a nice cool take to it. Because it seemed very easy in the previous movies to open the box before. And this one, it was more of a puzzle box to me. Yes, yes, yes. And each configuration. I believe. Yeah, I have the list of the names.
00:14:49
Speaker
I think they mentioned how many configurations there were. I think it was 13. No, there's like seven. I'll go through them. Oh, the configuration has a name that circle of hell. Maybe it represents a different desire, laminate life, lore, knowledge, lodrant, love, liminal sensation, Lazarus, resurrection and Leviathan power. That was more than seven. No, that's what they were representing. Laminate means life.
00:15:18
Speaker
or like that's what represented it. And then the lore was for knowledge. That's all. Yeah, it's only seven. So and the original guy, he had opened up and he'd want it like once you get to the fine one, you kind of you're like, yeah, you get your like wish or whatever. And he and it can be any one of the previous, you know, configurations. And he and you had to sacrifice seven people in order to get the audience
00:15:48
Speaker
with Leviathan. They mentioned how many people you had. It was seven. I thought it was a dozen or something like that. All right. So it was seven people. And then you got your audience with God, the Leviathan, who is first featured in Hellraiser 2. And you got to choose one of those gifts, as they put it.
00:16:16
Speaker
You know, spoiler, none of them are gifts you're really going to want. Yeah. Yeah. The original guy chose sensation because he kind of felt he had the other ones. I mean, he didn't need resurrection, but he already had knowledge. Yeah. I got to tell you, like after seeing what the Cinnabites did, because he witnessed pretty much everyone, he sacrificed to the box.
Character's Choice and Consequences
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Speaker
So it's not like he didn't know what the Cinnabites did. I would think after witnessing the sacrifices, sensation is probably something I would not pick. You feel me?
00:17:02
Speaker
We are when they reveal later on in the film that what sensation he gets it's like yeah you would never want that that's why he's trying to like
00:17:14
Speaker
Get the get this kid to bring him, you know more victims to open it back up again So he could just he wanted to get off the hook. Yeah, he was like, yeah This is my wish is to just go back to the way things were I sacrificed another seven people for you like I just want this fucking thing out of me they basically I
00:17:36
Speaker
What the hell did they shove into his eye? I don't know, but it would like take his like, um, it was, it was like, it was kind of like the insides of a piano sort of kind of what it looked like. They were like spiral. It was like, it was like a device that like went right through his body. So it was like a, almost like a computer chip coming in one side and out the other. And basically it looked like his nerve endings.
00:18:02
Speaker
were attached to little cogs, little gears in this thing. And it was constantly like pulling on the nerves of his flesh, giving him another sensation of pain. Yeah. And he mentions and he was like, it wasn't enough where he would get numb to it. It would stop before he'd become numb to it.
00:18:25
Speaker
And then it was let him get let him get some relief and then start it back up again. So he's like in constant fucking pain for like six years between like when he is that how long it was. It was a full six years. Yeah. Because they said he had gone missing like six years prior.
00:18:44
Speaker
Oh, yeah. And he says every, I remember him saying something like, that's easy for you to say every minute for me is like, uh, there are, yeah. Every minute for me is like a lifetime of agony or something like that. Yeah, dude. I got to tell you, locked on pleasant.
00:19:04
Speaker
Yeah, it did. But yeah, so she gets the the box, which you find out later, spoiler, obviously, we're going to be spoiling this entire movie. But you find out later that the her boyfriend was hired by the the rich guy who is now in a lot of pain to get the box and bring it to him. And like he kind of you can kind of tell when you like I'd watched it twice. So I like you kind of get the hint early on.
00:19:32
Speaker
that like he's kind of up to no good because you can tell right away that like not only does he not really want the box but he also believes her like almost immediately too he's like yeah i believe you and like that doesn't happen a lot
00:19:45
Speaker
horror movies where like people like believe the person that's being affected by like these demons or stuff like that so like you mean like you would say like if you like just started like an intimate relationship with a girl and she started like telling you like pretty early on that she had found a box that opened up a portal to hell
00:20:07
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you wouldn't immediately believe her yeah does kind of take her word what you don't know how long they were dating because the movie like opens up and they're in bed and they're fucking.
00:20:20
Speaker
Yeah. And at the end, like during their session, he says, I love you. Yeah. So I wasn't sure. I thought that meant that they were maybe dating for a while. They were dating for a while, but they definitely met in like a 12 step program. Yeah. They met generally consider, we were actually just talking about AA and, uh,
00:20:42
Speaker
One of the things that's not just anonymity is that they really discourage relationships. That's considered to be a red flag for you to start dating someone you met in AA.
00:21:00
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Yeah, and her brother's like trying to like help her out and but she's not like listening to any of it and then like he accidentally gets cut by the box when he goes like look for her. Yeah, she had done the box and the knife missed her hand.
00:21:15
Speaker
Yeah, and her brother. There was a lot of like, I mean, I guess that was kind of the only accidental fall on it, but there was a few times where I felt like, you know, it was kind of forced cuts to like move the move story along, but I didn't feel like it was slow at all. That's for sure. I felt like it was it was paced pretty well. Yeah, I agree with that. The one thing I did not like was that like you could take the box
00:21:46
Speaker
like he did when the one girl gets trapped in his like eccentric house, you know, how the walls had like secret corridors in them and stuff. He had the eccentric guy that you see in the beginning, the rich asshole who started all this with the box. He had the vine. He had he had designed the house. Oh, yeah, it's a trap. The the house was sort of like
00:22:14
Speaker
it's a bigger box. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it had different corridors. And he had different like, like trap bars that could come down. He had sort of like design this place like, as sort of like a tool to work with the box. Basically, it was also to trap the yeah, set up by the vice in there.
00:22:39
Speaker
You really think that that, like, why would you possibly after seeing these things and what they do, you really thought you could control the Cinnabites? Like, I got to tell you who on the fucking planet.
00:22:55
Speaker
I'm saying like, it's not like they come on easy. They come on strong right away. So your first ever encounter with them is just changed out of nowhere. Anyone is going to think like, yo, I'm never trying to fuck with you. Yeah.
00:23:10
Speaker
But like that guy saw them and was like, I don't know, maybe like he underestimated them because the leader of the Cinnabites in this one is a female. So maybe they were like, he was like, oh, like being sexist or something like you appear female. I think he's like, I trust like, yeah, I would never fuck with them.
00:23:31
Speaker
He definitely did his research because like it opens it up with like him sending someone to go buy the box from somebody and he's built that house. So he's definitely done his research on them. Oh, yeah. Well, he has an idea. He's probably never seen it yet, but he definitely believes it. And then he he has like an Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade style journal that he had made where he has like illustrations
00:23:59
Speaker
Like, so this guy had been researching the box for quite some time. Yeah, before he acquired. Yeah. So I guess he thought he can control it by building that house. And how would he think he could control it, though? Like everything you research would have pointed you towards you never, ever want to fuck with these things. Yeah.
00:24:21
Speaker
I think the conclusion of everything. Yeah, I think the only reason like I would acquire the box would be to put it in the deepest part of the ocean. It would not open it at all. Like give it as a gift to my worst enemy. Like that would be it. I wouldn't. And if I was going to send it as a gift.
00:24:42
Speaker
I would send someone else out to go to the far side of the world to pick it up and then mail it for me. I would never even want that box on the same continent with me. Like, you know what I mean? Like I want that box to always be as far away as possible. I want to have as little to do with the Cinnabites in reality as possible. That's the only thing
00:25:11
Speaker
The only way I would fuck with the box would either be to be the one to put it away like
00:25:16
Speaker
drop it into a volcano or something. Or like, you know what, I wouldn't even want to come in contact with the box. So like, I wouldn't need somebody else to drop in a volcano. Yeah, maybe. But like, I don't know. My main thing is like, if I had known about the box, everything on earth would scream to me, the one thing you want to do with the box is to never be anywhere near the box. And if you knew about what comes from the box, the cinnabites,
00:25:46
Speaker
The only thing other than not wanting to fuck with the box would be not wanting to fuck with the CineBites. Yeah. So it's especially when you first open it and you've got somebody and like the chains just come out of nowhere, then start tearing people's flesh apart. Yeah. And you can immediately be like, yeah, I'm not fucking. If that happened to me, like somehow, like I was around the box, I saw that happen. The CineBites came to me and were like,
00:26:13
Speaker
Hey, you know what I mean? Like, what do you desire? Like blah, blah, blah. Like I would just be like, like the girl said in the film, I want nothing from you. Like that was the only thing you could do is like.
00:26:28
Speaker
say, I want nothing and bounce. Yeah.
Theme Analysis: Addiction
00:26:32
Speaker
The whole film was kind of a about addiction and what you do to like hurt people when you're addicted to something. And then she kind of, you know, gets to the point where she's like, no, like,
00:26:44
Speaker
I've accepted like I have to deal with my own consequences and then they're like yeah you now it's like you've chosen a life of regret and pain. I kind of was getting hints of like the five stages of grief as well but I'm not quite sure that all five were there because like when she loses her brother
00:27:04
Speaker
She, you know, she kind of goes through like the depression and like bargaining and like in the end, it's like an acceptance and stuff like that. But it was definitely more about addiction and stuff like that, which I thought was was really I mean, they're all all the movies in some way or another. Everyone is addicted to something, something, you know what I mean? But like this was like more straight up about like drug and alcohol addiction.
00:27:29
Speaker
Yeah, well, or just addiction in general. Yeah. You know, gambling or compulsion is really about like what like drives you. But yeah, addiction or dependency upon something. Yeah. And, you know, I.
00:27:50
Speaker
As a movie overall, I didn't think it was like very good. Um, but like I said, compared to the other hell raisers, this one was a shining star. Yeah. So I liked it as a, as a, as a movie overall. Did you recognize any of the actors from things that you had previously seen? Cause I did not know. Not at all. So I thought I'm sorry. Excuse me. Let me correct that.
00:28:17
Speaker
the woman from the very beginning that purchases the box of the lawyer. Yeah. Yeah. The, the, the woman, I can't remember what her name in the movie was, but she actually, um, has a substantial role in HBO's, uh, show succession where she's Logan Roy's, um, actual well,
00:28:41
Speaker
wife playing it loosely but if you know the show you know what I'm talking about so she actually is like a pretty famous actress I've seen before but she has a rather small role
00:28:54
Speaker
Yeah. She's not on camera very much. Otherwise, I didn't really recognize any of these actors as, you know, people I've seen before. So it was sort of a new cast to me. I thought the acting was pretty decent. Yeah. Overall, I liked what they tried to do with the story. Like we just explained about addiction and all that.
Critique and Appreciation
00:29:17
Speaker
I'm not sure if it was executed very effectively.
00:29:22
Speaker
from just like a directorial standpoint and like the screenplay but I liked where they were trying to go with the movie and if you are a fan of the Hellraiser franchise I think that you would have probably come to the same conclusion that we did that this was one of the better Hellraisers in the last
00:29:45
Speaker
I say 20 years. Yeah, sounds about right. Since 1996, this was the, I'm sorry, that's 26 years. Excuse me. I was, I was off by two years.
00:29:58
Speaker
So in the last 26 years, so we're pushing three decades. Well, how did you feel about the designs of the Cenobites this go around? Because they don't look through the leather this this time and it's more natural. Like I like I kind of like the castle. I think it could have been a little bloodier in some scenes, but I liked the fact that it was like it was there. You mean you thought like some of the scenes should have been more gory?
00:30:26
Speaker
No, not more gory, but, you know, like the costumes aren't, they're not wearing like leather. It's their skin that's been like peeled over into different forms over top of themselves. And I think when you're, they're showing some of the fleshier parts, I think that could have been a little bloodier in some scenes, but overall, I really liked that. I don't know. Hell razor bloodline.
00:30:46
Speaker
Um, the one female in the bike, she has the skin pulled like from her scalp, her, her, the top of her scale is like open and that her head is peeled and like, um,
00:31:03
Speaker
It's kind of like a hairdo where there's like wires that are like attached to her shoulders and they're peeling the skin off from the top of her head. So like, she's kind of like, got like this weird, like skin sombrero thing going and the, uh, two of the cinnabites and this. And one thing we should note that I don't think was ever, there's always been female cinnabites in the other hell raiser. Well.
00:31:32
Speaker
Some of them featured females in the bites some of them only featured males in the bites but there's been female but in this hell raiser the leader of the guy was a female cinnabite well it's a it was a trans actor Jamie Clayton and it's closer to
00:31:53
Speaker
It appeared to be a female. I don't want to get in trouble. Well, yeah, it's a it's a trance. Yeah, you you were correct. It's if it's a it's a female. But I just want to point out that like it is closer to the original story as it like Hell Priest is an androgynous like sexless character. So I thought that like her casting for it was was kind of perfect for it. And I thought they also illustrate that bloodline.
00:32:19
Speaker
Yeah, I like I like the voice they did for her, too. They added like an extra like vocal thing to her voice. And I thought that was really well done, too. Yeah. And she said the line. We have some sites to show you. Yeah. And in in Hellraiser Bloodline, which I just watched, so I keep referring back to. But when Pinhead is released in this and he sees the demon that had been released 200 years earlier,
00:32:49
Speaker
He goes to her Angelique and she's referred to by Pinhead as Princess. So she's one of the leaders of the domain of hell. So he addresses her as royalty.
00:33:06
Speaker
I liked that touch that they brought one of like, you know, it was a new take because I had never seen like the female leader of the gang. But I thought that this did a really good job in the context that you just said. She was like one of the queens of hell. She was one. Well, they, you know, it's
Fan Theory: New Hell Priest's Identity
00:33:25
Speaker
interesting. Well, there was a period.
00:33:32
Speaker
There was a theory that, um, that the new hell priest is, um, or priestess, whatever you want to call her, uh, is that it's actually Christie from the original series.
00:33:46
Speaker
as really yeah well i mean it's just a it's just a fan theory but it was like they kind of go into like how she showed up later in the movies and i forget which other one she had showed up in but she'd uh you know um and then she's in the comics as well and it was kind of based like
00:34:03
Speaker
from the comics that like she became like the, uh, a Cenobite at one point and like that. Oh, really? And I was like, Oh, that's like, yeah. Yeah. I was reading about that. And I was like, Oh, that's kind of a cool theory. Like I don't eat the comics. Well, we won't know until there's another movie until there's a sequel if they decide to go. But I loved her. I had such a crush.
00:34:24
Speaker
her when I first saw the Hellraiser movies and I saw her in some other she did something like Cuba Gooding Jr. And she's done like a couple other movies that are like somewhat on the erotic side. So I always had like a big crush on her ever since I saw her in the original Hellraiser. I always had a crush on that actress. But that would that would be very, very interesting because
00:34:49
Speaker
I believe the last time she's featured as Christie in one of the Hellraiser movies was in Hellraiser in 2002. I think it was Hellseeker. I believe that that's where it was. But that's the last time that I believe her character was in the Hellraiser movies. Yeah, that would be. Yeah, that would be very, very interesting if they made that. Yeah, it would be. Yeah, I thought it was I thought it was cool fan theory. I thought I'd. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:20
Speaker
Yeah, I like that. But yeah, I mean, overall, like I said, this was, in my opinion, the best Hellraiser in the last 26 years. They definitely had a vision. You know what I mean? Like they had a cool story. Yeah. I mean, I would say overall, based on the last almost three decades, I thought that this was definitely a good reboot of the franchise. Yeah. Well, I was worried about it in this direction.
Potential Reboot of Hellraiser Series
00:35:49
Speaker
Yeah. And what I liked about it was it's not just like a reboot or a remake. It could also be, you know, a sequel. It could also take place in that world. It's just the box was the only thing that was really different about it. But you can still you can still. I just I just meant that this could be like sent rebooting a franchise to send it in the new. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Reinvent Hellraiser.
00:36:12
Speaker
Yeah, because I think the way to go. I like that. Yeah, I mean, especially with all like the crazy, like religious stuff that's going on in our society right now. Like I think that this I think that these stories should be told more frequently. So yeah, yeah.
00:36:30
Speaker
positive reviews. Yeah, I hope this one does well enough that the next one maybe gets even if it's like a limited theatrical run would be nice. So yeah, yeah, we're, you know, I hope that this one did well enough and attracted like well enough ratings so that the next one they maybe get like, like some a little bit like more known talent, maybe a larger budget. And, you know, that would, of course,
00:36:59
Speaker
increase its chances of getting a theatrical release, which I hope for as well.
00:37:05
Speaker
All right, well, yeah, that about does it for Hellraiser 2022. It's available on Hulu now. You can go watch it. I don't think we've spoiled too much of it. I mean, definitely spoiled some things, but yeah, it's definitely worth a watch regardless. Yeah, you should definitely say it. And, you know, spoilers are to be expected here. So, you know, if you're spoiled and you're pissed off, then fuck off.
00:37:32
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. You should definitely check it out. And, you know, thank you guys for joining us. All right. I'll talk to you soon.