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Ryan Aleckszander on the Case for Supplementation, Toxicities, Water, Placebo & Faith
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In this episode, we have Ryan Aleckszander on to explore some thoughts and insights related to health and well-being. We start with reflections on terrain, moving into the potential role of toxicities as a cause of disease.
We explore the best case for supplementation and the significance of mineral water, delving into how essential nutrients and trace minerals contribute to our overall health. We discuss Youngevity and the concept of 90 essential nutrients. We also explore the benefits and considerations surrounding Shilajit and Seamoss, delving into their potential contributions and shortfalls as a supplement.
The topic of water then takes center stage, with discussions ranging from the broader considerations of water quality and type to the specifics of structured water. Diving into the intriguing realm of the placebo effect, we explore its implications for health, acknowledging the power of belief and the mind in healing.
We open the discussion beyond diet and nutrients, delving into topics such as religion, stress, belief, relaxing, etc. We consider the role of faith in the context of health, exploring its impact on well-being. The episode concludes with explorations into collective fields, rituals, as well as considerations of placebo, prayer, and miracles.
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Introduction of Ryan Alexander and His Influence
00:00:01
Speaker
What's going on everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Beyond Train podcast episode nine. Today we have a special guest on Ryan Alexander. Now I've been following Ryan for a while now and for me, he's been a breath of fresh air and a very grounding mind throughout my whole exploration of what health is.
00:00:24
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for a lot of reasons. I think that he really takes a true holistic perspective. I think he looks at things not just from the health lens. It's much more than that. He's an artist. He's an author. He shares on social media a lot. I know he's a very busy person and he sacrificed a lot of his time for the
Understanding Terrain Theory
00:00:40
Speaker
people. And that's very obvious if you follow this man.
00:00:44
Speaker
He's definitely one of the most well-read men that I know of and that I followed. He's one of those guys that actually motivated me to start learning a lot more and reading a lot more books. I have a great appreciation for this guest here now. I hope you guys find this podcast very informative and helpful. I think I'm very excited for it and I think it's going to be fantastic. Ryan, I really want to thank you for coming on today. Thank you for having me, man, as always.
00:01:11
Speaker
For your words, it's good to know that we are making a difference. It's not the easiest subject here. There's so much to it. It's easy to get caught up in it. So I know there's a lot that we can go through when it comes to terrain theory. I didn't actually know your podcast was kind of about this. What are some things that in your previous eight episodes have been brought up?
Connecting Primal Diet and Alchemy
00:01:37
Speaker
Yeah, well, I mean, it's like, it's very much about, well, centrally is that germs aren't the root cause of disease, right? So we're looking beyond that. And really like, when we simply, if I could attribute what the cause of disease would be, it would be toxicities, deficiencies, or injuries. And I think there might be a case to say that emotions could cause injury. I know German New Medicine talks about this a little bit. We haven't really got into that. I'm not really well versed in that.
00:02:06
Speaker
So I mostly keep it to deficiencies and toxicities and obviously
Ryan's Health Transformation Journey
00:02:11
Speaker
injuries. You fall off your bike, you break your leg, that is kind of considered disease. So that's really central. We've talked a lot about the primal diet. I've had a few guests on about that and
00:02:24
Speaker
And they've definitely came to their conclusion in thinking that that is the best way forward in maximizing nutrients on eating solely whole foods and obviously eating raw animal products and trying to maximize the nutrients and minimize the toxicities.
00:02:42
Speaker
That's kind of where we're at now. Last recording was alchemy and we kind of got into maybe the more theoretical side of things, but I find
Business of Supplements and Self-Healing
00:02:52
Speaker
alchemy fun. I like the study of it, especially if you're trying to understand the cosmos. That's where we've been so far. I think today I'm excited to see where we're going to take this. It could go many different ways. Cool. I guess we should start out with
00:03:11
Speaker
my little history here very, very briefly. I was born with musculoskeletal problems. I was tangled up inside my mom's womb with a dislocated hip. It's called dysplasia. So an emergency C-section saved my life and probably hers as well. But I grew up in pain and couldn't really be physical or active until my 26th birthday when it happened to find the right supplement that got me out of pain in less than a week. And this whole time I'd been living with back pain, neck pain, stomach pain,
00:03:39
Speaker
head pain. I turned my neck too quickly and pull a muscle out, have to wear a neck brace to school. You know, I hit a golf club to the ground, I would break my arm, just fragile in the musculoskeletal system. And yeah, eight days was all it took to correct that. So most of what we look at
00:03:56
Speaker
What people come to us about, that's my business now. I sell the same supplements that fix me. I've been doing this almost 10 years. Most of what people come to us with is food problems and nutrient deficiencies. There's a case to be made for toxicity as well, but when your body's properly nourished, it can push out toxins. Your body's a detox machine. It can do this all the time.
00:04:17
Speaker
We don't put a lot of focus on toxicity itself, even though a lot of people blame it for weakening us to the point where we are susceptible to infections and stuff like that.
Deeper Dive into Terrain Theory
00:04:27
Speaker
And I should say that we don't really do infections. That's really not our main business. The most common way that we deal with infections is when people have chronic UTIs or ear infections and they're getting sick all the time. We don't really treat the sickness itself.
00:04:47
Speaker
That's acute medicine. You could use plant medicines. You could use pharmaceuticals. It's an acute treatment. We don't really do that. We do chronic. We deal with chronic. That's our wheelhouse. So if it's been happening a long time from the food habits and nutrient deficiencies, we come in and we correct those. And for the most part, the body can heal almost everything by itself. But
00:05:08
Speaker
There are some very clear cut examples of parasites, microorganisms causing lots of different problems. So I think this should be clarified as well, too, if we're going to jump into terrain theory. The main point of contention is about viruses and what viruses really are. And there's not much consensus, really, on what they even are. Even the mainstream tells us that they don't have a cell themselves. They're just kind of random pieces of DNA or RNA. So the terrain theorists say that
00:05:36
Speaker
That's because that's a byproduct of your body fighting something off. It's a byproduct of, you know, real pathogens or your body just having an immune response to food or whatever. The virus is not the thing that infects you.
Diet and Internal Balance
00:05:50
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It's a result of you being sick, you being unwell in the most basic of sense. But of course, there are many actual bacterium and
00:05:58
Speaker
worms and mold and fungus and all this stuff can invade us as well but as you've probably sort of already covered this stuff is everywhere you know they find fungus at like you know 10 000 feet in the air it's everywhere you can't avoid mold and fungus and bacteria and they're in our body too there's more bacterial cells in our body than there is human cells and many of those are known to be bad you know they're e-coli and
00:06:26
Speaker
Candida and even tuberculosis, you know, this stuff normally naturally lives in us. H. pylori. But of course this stuff can get out of control when our internal environment, our terrain, is sick. It's clogged up with processed foods that it can't deal with and it's got nutrient deficiencies and can't do anything properly.
00:06:47
Speaker
That's when these things can overload. Those same nutrient deficiencies and processed food cause us to be acid inside, which of course allows these things to proliferate as well. Of course, we also eat way too much sugar as a society feeding these things.
Indicators of Health and Nourishment
00:07:01
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It's just a vicious cycle where it makes us even weaker and even more susceptible to infections. But the infection itself wasn't the primary threat. You know, because these things exist amongst us all the time, you can't avoid fungus and mold and yeast and bacteria.
00:07:17
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The real threat is being unhealthy and not being able to keep those things at bay, not having enough good probiotics, good bacteria to keep the bad bacteria at bay, and so on. Yeah. I'm just getting a little bit of popping on my end here. I think what I'm seeing is that your mic may be a little loud. I don't know if you can turn that down just a little bit. I think that might help the situation. How's that sound?
00:07:44
Speaker
Yeah, that's a lot better. I think even maybe just a smidge louder be all right. All right. There. That should be all right. Yeah. So, um, well that was great introduction. I, yeah, like we, we're certainly, um, like when we're talking about it here, I think we may place more emphasis on the toxicity, I suppose. And I, I could not agree more with what you're saying that that
00:08:14
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that being properly nourished is a really important factor here. And, you know, it's, it's interesting because you say like, it's like, if you have the nutrients, you have the mechanisms, like we are built to detox. And I think that's a really important story here. And, and that's why I really appreciate what you're doing. And, you know, cause even I find a lot of people in the terrain community really take away from supplements and they say, you know, supplements may even be toxicity, synthetic forms of, of vitamins or,
00:08:43
Speaker
whatever it may be, may not be the healthiest option for us and that we should all be getting it from our food. Now, I know that you're a results-based guy and your results certainly speak for themselves and that's what I love. And I love your story and I love that. That's what you're standing by and that's what you're selling. I like that because you have that to back it up for sure. So, you know, I think, like I want to hear about like,
00:09:13
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what your idea of health is. That's kind of what I ask all my guests to get a little baseline understanding. So I really want to know, what does health mean to you? And then we can circle back into the terrain and the nutrients and all of that, and maybe even get into the bad food. So I'd appreciate to just hear your words on what health is, because I think you take a great perspective on it.
Historical Diet Practices and Longevity
00:09:37
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Well, I think the absence of disease, the absence of a problem is your first major marker.
00:09:43
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For example, the RDI is the recommended daily allowance of nutrients. They're set at the level that will just keep you alive. So you take just enough scurvy according to the FDA to, or sorry, you take just enough vitamin C to not have scurvy basically. But of course that isn't good enough to us, you know, it should be natural to wake up ready to go wake up with energy, sleep properly, you know, just be naturally tired at the end of the day, go to sleep. No problem. No waking up.
00:10:12
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You know, just nothing weird, you know, no problems with urination or defecation. Everything's just working properly. And I think the energy thing is a, is a good metric of that because yeah, you can not have a disease, but be tired and miserable all the time. And that's obviously not health as well. But when you are functioning properly, you should have plenty of energy, plenty of zest for life. And you mentioned emotions earlier. Well, emotions need nutrients, they need proper sleep, they need all this stuff.
00:10:42
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when you are working correctly, your emotions actually should not be going bonkers as well. And you kind of maybe brushed it off just a little bit, but stress can absolutely cause disease by itself. And this is another vicious cycle sort of thing. The stress can cause you to eat more of the bad foods and could cause you to stay up later or just have a bad sleep in general. And now you have even less raw material for your own hormones.
00:11:08
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to be made properly and all this stuff. So health is just the absence of all of this. It's not just what shows up on a blood test, but if you are miserable, I do believe depression, anxiety, these are completely nutritionally explained. These concepts don't exist in the primitive world, basically. So all of that should just be functioning well. You should just be ready to go basically at all times and be capable of much more than an eight hour work day without burning out and et cetera. Yeah.
00:11:38
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And you even mentioned being tired at the end of the day. I think that's great too. Cause like, you know, if you're out, you know, and you're, you're moving around and you're not sitting at a desk for, you know, you usually may sit at the desk for eight hours in your job, but you know, sitting on the couch for the other eight hours of your free time can be problematic for your energy levels too. So it's, it's, uh, but yeah, there's the big focus on, on nutrients and nutrition and, and like, and that's like, like, I think that's so foundational. Like.
00:12:08
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because we're bombarded constantly with toxicities. And personally, I think that's really where the terrain model shines. I think the toxicities that we're experienced are, you're in the field and you're looking at these chronic illnesses and all of these major degenerative diseases and things like that. And I'm thinking of the acute flu and the contagious diseases, right?
00:12:37
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are more toxicities. I really do. I think they're deeply rooted toxicities. I was talking about parasites today on Instagram
Modern Nutrient Deficiencies
00:12:43
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and how parasites can go in beyond where the immune system can get into. And I think there's a little bit of evidence to show that parasites like to feed on things like heavy metals. So if you were to comment on toxicities, what is your take on the toxicities? I know you don't place too much emphasis, but what do you think about them?
00:13:06
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Well, you said something earlier results based and the health business in general, it should be completely results based, right? One of the problems with mainstream medicine is they get paid no matter what they get paid. If you die on the operating table, you know, you take these two pills, call me in two weeks. If you get way worse or have a seizure or, you know, anything crazy, they still get paid. So it's not result based and you can choose to keep going back to them. For some reason, many people do choose to keep going back for them back to them, even with a lack of results.
00:13:37
Speaker
Where we do our work mostly on Instagram these days, most people that come to us are already health conscious. Many of them, if not, most of them eat better than I do. You know, they go way out of their way for organic foods and grass fed and all this stuff, the extra Omega eggs. And many of them are very, very chemical conscious. They've stripped all these chemicals out of their lives. It sounds like a detour here, but
00:14:06
Speaker
These people still have problems. That's why they're coming to us. They have no other reason to message us other than to ask for our help with the problem. And again, probably half of these people on Instagram specifically, not half people in general, but half of the people who come to us at least are already completely clean, as clean as you can be in this environment, really. And I'm fairly clean as well.
00:14:27
Speaker
But my point here is, or I'm not really clean compared to the regular person. I haven't stripped every single chemical out. I'm sitting in a chair here that has made a fabric in a factory somewhere that was doused in chemicals before it was made. A few years it can off gas, but nonetheless, it's still going to have some chemicals in your environment pretty much no matter how hard you try, unless you live out in the woods with no insulation or anything natural. Anyways, these people still have problems and they've already cleared out.
00:14:52
Speaker
most of the toxins in their life, especially the major ones, the deodorants, the aerosols, the chemicalized toothpaste and sodas and processed foods where you get a huge amount of these chemicals, because you can absorb some through your skin for sure, but you can eat a lot more.
00:15:09
Speaker
very, very quickly, right? You can eat huge, huge doses of toxins, talking about metals and stuff. You know, one bowl of cereal is going to have a whole bunch of little iron shards in it. And just a bunch of other stuff that would take you a long time to breathe in through pollution in the air or chemtrails or whatever, or to absorb through your skin. You're not putting huge amounts of this directly on your skin. Anyways, they still have problems. Why do they still have problems? Because even eating clean, good food,
00:15:37
Speaker
doesn't address all the nutrient imbalances in our food supply. Important ratios like calcium to phosphorus, calcium to magnesium, potassium to sodium, omega 3 to omega 6. If any of those are off, you're going to have a problem. You might have a full-blown disease, even if you're getting adequate amounts.
00:15:56
Speaker
Say you need a thousand milligrams of omega three and you're actually getting that much, but you happen to be getting 10 times more omega six. It's not the quantity problem. It's the ratio problem. On top of that, there's nutrient deficiencies that you can't possibly fix with food. And we can talk about it. I know that's a point of contention for many, many people. They think that they can just eat food and be fine. Well, I promise about half of our customers these days on Instagram already eat fine. They eat great.
00:16:26
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They eat better than their doctor would have told them. And it's even fine to me at first glance until we really start going in and looking at those ratios. And we have to understand and accept the fact that we just can't get enough of certain nutrients in our food no matter what we eat. Let me explain that just a second before I throw it back to you.
Role of Traditional Diets in Health
00:16:46
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The longest of people, the longest of populations
00:16:50
Speaker
There might be some arguments about them wanting to sound older than they really are or whatever. There's no birth certificates in the Georgian mountains or whatever, whatever. There are certain places like the Hunza Mountains in northern Pakistan and the Georgians just mentioned and the Azerbaijanis and the Sardinians and the Okinawans and the Nikoya Peninsula, Costa Rica, even the Loma Linda Seventh-day Adventist population in California, which is an outlier in the Blue Zone category.
00:17:19
Speaker
These people live all over the world is the point. They eat completely different diets. There's very little overlap. There might be a few foods that they all eat like garlic or onions, but you can't blame the food for their success because they all eat different things. There's many different ways to get the nutrient dense foods. And there's many, there is patterns when you look at these people and what they eat and what they drink. But the real common factor is that they put a lot more nutrients into their food.
00:17:49
Speaker
They use things, many if not most of these populations live in the mountains. So they use things like irrigation. They irrigate the mountain water. Mountain water is coming across hundreds or thousands of miles. It's picking up all kinds of minerals and trace minerals. You know, in one quart of the Hunza water, there is 17,000 milligrams, I believe that's the number, 17,000 milligrams of calcium, 17 times the RDA.
00:18:14
Speaker
And this is inorganic calcium. It's not organic. It's not plant derived. It's just raw limestone grind up, ground up. 17,000 per quart. They're drinking several quarts a day because they're at high altitude. So just that alone, they're putting it directly into their body. Even if it's inorganic, they're not drinking just pure water. I've never found a case anywhere where any long lived population drank pure water. Even the, uh, the second longest lived woman, I believe came to Naka Japanese woman.
00:18:44
Speaker
She just died last year or the year before. And she liked sodas a lot. She drank sodas a lot. The Sardinians drink like two bottles of wine a day. You know, the Georgians, southern Russia there, they drink vodka. In Nikoya Peninsula, Costa Rica, they drink coffee. And we would actually say that these are bad because they dehydrate you. But apparently they get enough nutrients otherwise to fortify themselves to not get dehydrated. I'm just saying none of these people actually drink water.
00:19:14
Speaker
As far as I can tell, we can look at their water and see what it is, but it's not pure water. It's not distilled water. It's not reverse osmosis filtered water. It's got a lot of stuff in it. They irrigate their fields with that water, especially the mountain people. This is a very important part because their, their fields are growing in mineral rich conditions. So there's their plants should actually be stronger, hardier. They don't need pesticides. They should make more vitamins, more antioxidants, more amino acids, more essential fatty acids. These are all things that plants make and they make more of them.
00:19:44
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when they're in a mineral rich environment. But they do more than that. They eat the entire animal when they do eat animals. They don't just eat the muscle meat. Big problems with just eating muscle meat. It's the least valuable part of the animal. The organs, the skin, the connective tissue, all of this is, and the bones, these are all more valuable. So they eat all of it. They eat the organs. Many of them, or most of them, or maybe all of them, drink the blood, use the blood, cook in the blood, add the blood into the compost,
00:20:14
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feed it to the animals. The animals poop and make manure and they put that back on the fields. Their compost heap might be as big as their house or bigger, full of organic material and food scraps and lawn clippings and manure and all this stuff. Egg shells, if they're not fed directly to the animals, they go in the compost heap. They would use the bones. They would make soups and stews out of the bones. They would grind up what's left to make it into a flower. They would add that like flour because flour is very hard to make.
00:20:44
Speaker
And even though these cultures, like the Hunza and some other ones that go back in time, like in the Swiss mountains, they'd be eaten rye or leave. And the same thing in Hunza. One of the bad grains, one of the gluten grains, wheat barley or rye, or even oats, you know, the Scottish, on the Scottish islands, they'd be drinking oats. This goes back to Weston A. Price, nutrition and physical degeneration. Anyone who's in the know there, he talked about these cultures who actually use what we call the bad foods now.
00:21:13
Speaker
There's many, many differences. Where it's grown, what kind of soil it's grown on for one, for two, they wouldn't just chop them down and process them right away. They would let them sit. They would chop the oat down and let it sit for a few days. That starts at the ferment, basically. Increases the enzymes. Enzymes do work on our body, the proteins that do work.
00:21:35
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sixth grade science class. Freshly milled as well, I think was something West and A Price talked about. Fresh, yes, but after being let sit for a few days at least. And then, yes, they use the whole grain, of course, yes. But they also don't use that much of it. They also throw in bone meal. They throw in ashes. We'll get back to wood ashes. This five minutes here really actually explains the major
00:22:01
Speaker
ways that they got their nutrients. Again, it's not the food. All kinds of different foods are out here. They put more minerals into their fields. They drink some of these places. They drink it directly. They use the bones. The old nursery rhyme, Jack and the Beanstalk, told us all this, and we all forgot it. Fee-fi-fo-fum. I smell the blood of an Englishman. Be he alive or be he dead. I'll grind his bones to make my bread. They added bones.
00:22:30
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into whatever we would think of as flour now, they'd use bone as flour. They'd also use ash. When a plant sucks up a mineral out of the ground, it splits it apart. It's no longer a rock.
Plant-Derived Minerals in Supplements
00:22:42
Speaker
It's no longer a clump. The plant, the fungus and the plant, fungus that's in the soil, which is, in this case, not killed by pesticides. That's one of the problems with pesticides. It kills the bacteria and the fungus in the soil. You need the fungus in the soil to pre-digest these minerals. It's a symbiotic relationship.
00:23:01
Speaker
where they take a rock, together the fungus and the root, pulls off an individual particle of say calcium or lithium or iron or whatever it is. It's no longer a rock, now it's an individual particle. So it's a nano-sized particle or pico-sized particle. And it's given an electric charge as it goes into the plant. So now you've got a extremely small charged particle. We call these colloidal minerals, plant-derived colloidal.
00:23:28
Speaker
You'll hear people say humic or ionic. They're all different words for the same thing. The plant sucks up the minerals and now they're plant-derived minerals. It's no longer a rock. When you burn the plant, what's left over is the plant-derived minerals, the colloidal minerals. So ash is basically the first mineral supplement. Maybe salt was, but the first widespread human supplement was wood ash and it was used all throughout history.
00:23:55
Speaker
There's some Neanderthal sites that were buried with wood ashes. This was a sacred thing. Before vitamins and minerals and stuff was all properly figured out, they really only thought there were a few major nutrients that were needed, fat, protein, carb, and ash. Ash was actually considered an essential nutrient. They didn't know what ash was composed of. And then we started to figure it out later. Like potassium is named after pot ash, right? It's one of the major constituents of ash.
00:24:25
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And, uh, I know I'm kind of rambling here, but you know, you would know potassium deficiency is a major problem in our society. It's hard to eat a lot of, to eat that many fruits and vegetables to get enough potassium. Your doctor says, okay, yeah, man, just eat six cups of broccoli and four bananas to try and get your potassium. You start doing the math. This is a lot of produce. Would this really be feasible year round in most of these places? Absolutely not. You know, the people in the Hunza mountains in Pakistan, they eat apricots.
00:24:55
Speaker
You have to eat a lot of apricots to get that much potassium. So one of the major problems in our society is too much salt, too much sodium in processed foods, not enough potassium causing swelling, edema, throwing their metabolism off, all kinds of things. Your body needs these electrons or electrolytes to fire neurons and stuff. So you can get all kinds of neuropathy problems and random pains and whatever that come from this imbalance. One of them is deficient. One of them is in excess.
00:25:23
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And so, yeah, throughout all the human history, they used wood ashes. They didn't know it was a potassium supplement, but they knew it was also a way to make their breads and their puddings and their meatloaf and whatever it was they were making, because grains are hard to grow. You know, even in the best of cases, best circumstances, oats and wheat and stuff is hard to grow. You've got to tend those crops. You've got to, you've got to process them after. You have to pound them out either by hand or with a water wheel, a water mill.
00:25:53
Speaker
Right. One town might have one water mill that services the whole town. Flower was hard to make. Took a lot of effort. Not everybody had oodles of it. You couldn't just go and buy a bag of it for a buck at the store. So there was tons of effort. Some of these places too, they would use like an ox and it would walk around a grinding wheel all day grinding this stuff. And so compare that to bone meal, which you're already using the whole animal. You're not soldering an animal every day. When you do, you use the entire thing. You eat the ears, eat the stomach lining.
00:26:23
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eat the brain, eat the eyes, liver, the adrenals, all of these have different concentrations of important nutrients. And then yeah, you use the bones. Of course you use the bones and using bones.
00:26:35
Speaker
Even though you have to grind it up, it's still way easier than going through the whole thing of growing flour and then flour one, two, maybe three crops a year. So what's carrying you through the winter? Bones, ash, some dry food. You know, you know, a lot of these places are cold places. They don't, they can't, they're not growing in the winter. They're hibernated in the winter. So they're living off these high mineral things. And this is why I know that was a long explanation. There's actually more to it, but I'm going to stop.
00:27:03
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There's other things they do to put more minerals in their food, but all of this is irrespective of the food. It doesn't matter whether they're growing tomatoes or squash or whatever, fruits, berries, livestock, all of this is still being given more and more nutrients and more of it is being used than we currently do. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember hearing it. It was definitely through you. I don't know if it was you or if it was Dr. Wallach, but I remember hearing it was like,
00:27:33
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Once the light bulb was invented, that's when you started to see these, a lot of these chronic illnesses come up because they stopped irrigating their fields with the weekly flood or the yearly flood, sorry, because they would put dams in and obviously the wood stoves were replaced because of electricity. And so now you don't have wood ash, right? And obviously we've moved away from consuming the whole animal in the West, especially it's so weird to eat
00:27:59
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even liver at this point. But even our grandmothers would eat liver and it was no liver and onions was a real popular one back in the day. But now it's like people, they think it's just the weirdest thing in the world. So yeah, I appreciate that explanation a lot. And I'm glad you brought up Weston A. Price because we've talked about him a few times on the podcast here so far. And he really does great work. And I like what you're saying about the potassium too. And what stood out to me was
00:28:28
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You know, they can eat apricots up in the mountains, but like you're pointing out here, to be clear, is that the apricots up in the mountains have a lot more potassium too than the mass production of apricots that you buy at the grocery store. So it's a whole different game here that you're talking about. If you're talking about trying to get nutrients out of your food and you're buying it at a grocery store, I think you've lost. I think that instantly it's impossible. You know, I think if maybe
00:28:56
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I personally think if you put years into your soil and you get back to the traditional practices, I think there's a possibility to live without supplement. But as you're mentioning, even supplementing with the bones or eating wood ash or bones is a form of supplementation. So I really like that point of view. And I think it is the best case for supplements that I've ever heard, honestly. And yeah, I like your explanation on minerals. I know you and I remember listening to a
00:29:26
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podcast that you and Ben Fuchs talk about minerals and they're not minerals, they're elements. And that was driven into me. It's, you know, you're not eating rocks, you're eating, but, you know, so it's a different way of looking at things. And so anyways, I really appreciate that explanation. Actually, I think the listener will too. I think they'll benefit from that. So yeah, I mean, so your product, the, the, um, young Jeavity product is a, it's a humic shale, is it?
00:29:55
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Well, we have tons of products, but that's our baseline product. That's the first product, plant-derived minerals. We just call it plant-derived minerals. It's on top of a mountain in the middle of Utah, desert, barren Utah, no services for like 60 miles in every direction, something like that. Emory, Utah is the spot, and there's a hundred cubic mile deposit.
00:30:20
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It's actually bigger than that, but that's the part that we have access to 100 cubic miles. It's unfathomably large. It's about 20 feet tall too, right? So 20 feet tall, stretching for miles and miles on top of a mountain, because there used to be a sea there. And we know that because there's a limestone cap on top of it that has seashells in it. So this is basically an ancient kelp forest, right? You hear people talk about Irish sea moss. This is ancient sea moss. And the reason we use it instead of regular sea moss,
00:30:49
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And by the way, we do use a couple of different complexes now. The pandemic caused a big chaos and they finally moved into using some other deposits and stuff. This is not the only deposit of this stuff in the whole world. So we've secured some more, made sure that it has at least 77 minerals in each serving and all. It's consistent and it's economical to harvest it. So we do have other sources now. But yeah, this stuff, it's already dried. So it's one of the ways that we can get
00:31:16
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way higher doses, like they literally go in with a bulldozer scoop and scoop it out, filter it and just saturate it in water. And then they actually dilute it a little bit because if you serve it at the maximum concentration point, the maximum saturation point actually.
00:31:32
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the most amount of particles that can fit in an ounce of water, because each particle is electrically charged, so it's repelling. They're all repelling each other. That's why it stays in suspension. It's what makes it biologically active, too. If you take regular minerals, even that huns of water, and you put them in a glass of water and you let them sit, it's going to fall down to the bottom. Basically, the minerals are going to create a little sand cloud at the bottom. It'll settle out completely eventually.
00:31:59
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Same with mud or whatever, sand, you know, again, shake it up. It's cloudy for a bit. Then it settles down. That doesn't happen with colloidal minerals, plant-derived minerals, because they're all electrically charged. So it stays in suspension forever. That's what makes it colloidal. And there's other colloids in nature, too, like oil. Oil is a colloidal solution as well. It won't settle out. But so.
00:32:21
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If you serve it at full concentration, it's too strong. It like, it burns your lips basically. Dr. Wallach says it'll shrink, shrink wrap your lips around your face. And I've tried it raw. It is extremely potent. So you can actually test the potency of minerals by tasting it and tasted many, many other products. There's none that's as strong as ours, basically. You can see that in the lab analysis too, how much is actually in it.
Impact of Drinking Water Quality
00:32:44
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Well, that's how stringent it is. It's like the stringent what makes a wine dry.
00:32:51
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So think of the driest wine you've ever had, driest white wine ever. That's what this is. And we can make it even stronger. So this stuff is very economical to pull out because it's already there. It's already dried. Just when you buy most, if not all of these CMOS products, you're just buying the CMOS itself. Whereas to make one, I should know the American values more. I think a quart is 32 ounces. Maybe I'm correct on that.
00:33:18
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32 ounces, it takes over 70 pounds. I think it takes 78 pounds of the desiccated CMOS, 78 pounds to turn that into 32 ounces, which is intended for an adult of normal size. And actually the proper dose according to wallet could be one ounce per 100 pounds.
00:33:39
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Well, over 70 pounds for any adult basically is required just to distill down a basic dose of the trace minerals. That's mostly what it's about, the trace minerals. You're not going to get the big minerals, enough of them like calcium, potassium, magnesium. You need other sources, including the food and those other habits we were talking about earlier, things that put a lot more magnesium, calcium into the food.
00:34:03
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But anyways, yeah, that is what we use. That's the basis of our program. That stuff is in almost all of our products. And since it has all the trace minerals in it, I should mention, we believe there's at least 90 essential nutrients. And many of those are trace minerals that no one's ever heard of. And I would actually argue that all the elements on the periodic table are essential in the naturally occurring doses and forms, basically. Even fluoride, even lead.
00:34:32
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Arsenic is one that is actually essential. People aren't arguing that. We need arsenic in trace amounts, animals and us, all life needs trace arsenic. Yeah. Some of these other ones like cadmium, lead, fluoride, I do actually believe they are essential in their naturally occurring amounts. Because when you find these minerals, you find them all together. You can't separate out the lead or whatever. It's in the spring water. It's in the seawater. It's in the Hunza water.
00:34:58
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Yeah, that stuff is our magic pixie dust, we say. It's because of the trace minerals. Yeah. So what about Shilligan? I think I've asked you a question like this before. What about Shilligan? That's a big hot topic now. Everyone's selling it. Everyone does it. What are your thoughts on that? Well, it has excellent marketing, incredible marketing. It really does.
00:35:19
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I'm envious of the marketing. Many people have wanted me to sell it and they've sent me samples and everything. And, you know, I try something for three months and see if it has, it makes a difference. So there's been several of those few months periods that I've taken it and haven't noticed the difference. The reason I think I haven't noticed the difference is because I'm already getting a solid dose of plant dried minerals. I remember that 78 pounds or 70 plus pounds, it takes us to make one month worth of our plant dried minerals.
00:35:49
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Picture how much you're buying in Shilajit. It is concentrated to a degree, but not to the same degree. Same with the CMOS. You know, people have sent me tons of CMOS, added it into my regimen, haven't felt a thing. I know there are people who have results from it. To me, they're not that impressive of results. They're basic results. They're not reversing scoliosis or brain tumors or whatever. It's basic results. Feel better, got more energy, sleep better, whatever it is. And I would say, yeah, it's because of trace minerals.
00:36:18
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Because trace minerals are incredibly deficient in our food supply. And we could name 20 of them here that could possibly have that effect. Who knows? If you throw in any source of trace minerals, you're probably going to feel better. Even just by eating sea fish, clams, or seaweed, or anything like that. Do that for 90 days. You'll probably feel better because you have more trace minerals in you. Shillage, it's the same thing. And I don't mean to bash anyone. I have friends that sell it.
00:36:44
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It's just too much money, not enough minerals. Back to the food thing, all these long live people, they eat all kinds of different foods. I don't care what the source is of the minerals. I care about the form and the quantity and the ratios when all is said and done. And you're just not getting enough for your dollar when it comes to Shilajit or our CMOS or, you know, you name it, basically. I don't want to say any other product than ours. It's not a secret method that we use.
00:37:11
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This is public. We talk about this all the time. Just told you what we do. We take a scoop of humic shale, and that's just old CMOS. We take a scoop of humic shale, we filter it, and we dilute it a bit in distilled water. That's it. Any company could do that. Any company could replicate it, and many actually do. They just don't use the same concentration as us. That's it, for the most part, or they charge more. I was just pitched on a product the other day. They said, hey, we love what you're doing.
00:37:41
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maybe you'd like to sell our product or whatever. And I look at it and it's more than twice the cost of ours. And it has less than half of the minerals in it. And it looks like they're doing the same thing. They're taking a human shell source and sheltering it and diluting it in distilled water. And they come up with a product that costs twice as much with half as much in it. Amazing. Yeah. No, that's fantastic. Um, so I want to like, uh, I want to ask you about water,
Water Consumption Practices
00:38:10
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you know,
00:38:10
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Definitely drinking distilled water, RO water is kind of a popular topic. What are your thoughts on the consumption of water? Should we be drinking eight cups of water a day? What are your thoughts there? Is it spring water? Is it okay? If it's tap water, what do you think? Water is a big subject. And to be honest, when reading old accounts, because there's not that many current locations that are very healthy,
00:38:40
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So you have to go back a hundred years or so or more to get descriptions of perfectly healthy populations like Weston A Price did. And it annoys me that most of the time they talk about the foods, but they do hardly ever actually talk about what they drink. It makes some passing reference to it, but it don't give me a good solid rundown of what they actually drink sun up to sun down basically. So it's a bit annoying, but we can tell some things.
00:39:06
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The Huns of people, for example, not only do they drink that mineral rich water, it's already cloudy with inorganic minerals. And it just by nature of being a mountain water, they call it glacial milk, right? Cause it's milky. It looks chalky with minerals, but they also put a chunk of rock salt into the bottom. And so that's, you know, constantly leaching out into the water. So they're having a high salt intake as well. So they're not drinking just water out of the spring or out of the waterfall.
00:39:34
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Theoretically, maybe waterfall water is the cleanest, but I have never seen a population that relies on that. They do rely on springs or distillations like beers and vodka and stuff.
00:39:51
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They'd be drinking that all the time, a lot of them. And because also it's in many places in the world, it's hard to get water that's not contaminated. It started this with train theory. You can absolutely have lots of microorganisms in your water and it can make you sick. It's a big problem in Africa and stuff. Throughout the middle ages, you know, not the healthiest time ever, but they were drinking almost all alcoholic drinks, wines and beers and stuff because it wasn't going to have the same level of bacterial threat in it. So very few of them actually drink water.
00:40:21
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I lived in one of the blue zones, Nikoya Peninsula, Costa Rica. I'm not sure if I ever saw anyone just drink water. They do drink milk from their cows that they have there. Um, drink coconut water. Honestly, it's, it's 21st century here. A lot of them are drinking Coca-Cola and beer and stuff as well. They're not drinking water in Okinawa. Again, they can be drinking all kinds of different things. Saki, basically, uh,
00:40:49
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Rice beers and other things like that. So there's a lot of people making claims about water that just don't make sense to the natural world, or at least the primitive people in the natural environment. They don't drink a whole lot of water. If they do, it's highly mineral rich water, which is what I prefer to do. Lots of water. Yes. With some salt in it. Yes. I have a reverse osmosis machine because we're not in the primitive environment or a drink with supplements in it. Like I'm drinking right now.
00:41:19
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It's got vitamins, minerals, it's got all nine essential nutrients in it, except for the omegas. Omegas would turn it into an oily soapy mixture. Not very nice to drink. But yeah, even things that we think of as bad, at least in some way, like coffee and tea. Again, those tons of people, they'd be drinking tons of tea, also with rock salt in it, and a pad of yak butter, right? I like that as well. Yak, not yak, I don't have yak butter. Just regular butter and coffee, one of my favorite things, once a day. Yeah.
00:41:49
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But a lot of these people are doing way more than we would recommend us modern health gurus here. We're telling people that more than two servings of alcohol a day is super bad. Meanwhile, at least half of the Blue Zones always did that, drank way more than two glasses a day. Same with coffee, same basic thing, one to two cups a day for an adult. Well, they drink a lot more in Nicoya where I saw them drink a lot more. Very, very strong coffee as well. Mediterranean region, they drink tons of coffee.
00:42:19
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smoke tons of cigarettes. It's just they're breaking lots of what we would say are the rules. So when it comes to water, we need clean water. Yeah, we do need a lot of water. To me, it doesn't matter what form it comes in, whether it's milk or tea or blood or anything, we need a baseline of water. Yeah, half a gallon to a gallon a day at sea level, basically. And it should have lots of minerals in it, especially if it is tea, because it will be dehydrating us, meaning depleting the electrolyte nutrients.
00:42:47
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All the water, soluble vitamins and minerals will be depleted by any of that. So we need to keep our intake high. And yeah, you asked about spring water. Problem is most people don't live near a good source of spring water. Fast majority of people live in a city. What are you going to do? I live out in the middle of nowhere on the edge of nowhere. We're not in the middle or up in Northern Canada here. And we do have springs. They're outside of town. I wouldn't drink them if they were inside of town because we have gold mines in the town. There's a big, huge tailing pond.
00:43:18
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that would leach into the groundwater. So 15 minutes outside of town, there's some springs. They're great. They're fantastic. They're hard water, which is the best to me. And there's epidemiology attached to that. We've looked at populations that consume hard water versus soft water. And you can see the hard water, which means more minerals in it. Hard water does a lot better across the board. So we have super hard water up here.
00:43:40
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Lots of calcium, magnesium, sulfur, and other trace minerals. Again, the fluoride and the lead, we don't have lots of it, but it's got a full spread of the trace minerals in it, most of them.
Structured Water Debate
00:43:51
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And those big ones got lots of calcium, magnesium, and sulfur. It makes it smell like eggs. But I still use the reverse osmosis because it's just more convenient. Drive 15 minutes out of town, fill up water jugs, bring them back. We do. We do sometimes.
00:44:05
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I rely on the reverse osmosis for the daily and its final stage. It runs it through a coconut husk filter. So it picks up some of that organic debris basically and fortifies it. There's no example of pure water in nature. So a spring water, whatever it is, lake water, fountain water, it's always going to have something in it. It's going to have some, both hydrogen and oxygen are extremely reactive. So there's a theory out there that you shouldn't drink distilled water.
00:44:34
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And I agree, at least not for long, because both of those molecules want to bond. Water always wants to bond with stuff. You just will not find pure water anywhere in nature unless it's like steam fresh from a geyser or something. But even then, as soon as it hits the air, it's going to start bonding with stuff in the air. Just always wants to bond. Sure. You want water, in my opinion, that's already saturated with other stuff in it. Other molecules it's bonded to. Hmm. Yeah.
00:45:03
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So what about structured water? Are you familiar with that at all, like Gerald Pollack's work? You're going into a lot of, um, kind of deep end stuff here. It's hard to, it's hard to briefly summarize. Let's get into it. Well, we've talked about structured water. We talked about it in episodes, uh, three and four. Um, so the listeners, if they've, if they've listened to that, um, not to assume, but you know,
00:45:30
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Kind of want to hear your thoughts so they're kind of familiar with what structured water is or they should be at least that if not You know, they can look it up. I want to hear your your your opinion on that, you know, is is it Is it a necessary thing? Is it a helpful thing? You know, what what do you think about it in itself? so I've got some books on it recently to Get myself off of the fence because I've I've recently come on to the fence here
00:45:57
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So back up years ago, I was very compelled by Dr. Masuro Imodo, which you guys probably talked about where he takes pictures of water molecules as they're freezing. And the ones that he, you know, put like a tape and said, wrote love on it, that water crystallized into a beautiful snowflake. And then he put hateful words on other ones and they would, they would crystallize ugly, you know, unsymmetrical, just distorted.
00:46:26
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And, uh, if people have done the rice experiments too, where they just project love into one cup of rice and then they ignore one and then they give hate to another one. And then, you know, the one that was ignored and the hateful one that the rice rots very quickly gets all moldy and stuff. But the, the one that was given love actually ferments and it's still consumable later. Very, very interesting. I'm very, very compelled. Still am I said was still am very compelled that we do.
00:46:55
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Change the structure the frequency of things around us. We do actually change The very nature of them and that I believe that's true in our own bodies, too We're mostly water. So when we project negative energy, I know these are hippie terms, but I think it literally changes our physiology I do agree with that We sell structured water And I know other structured water companies I have good friends and people in the business and doctors and stuff that believe in it very strongly
00:47:25
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I cannot say that I have any real results to report just using the structured water. I believe that many of the results I have seen are due to the placebo effect. It's hard for me to parse this apart. I don't have double blind studies. I just have my own experience and I don't recommend structured water all the time, but I've got a good solid handful of people who have used it. And I know that the ones who got a good result generally had a good attitude and they probably would have gotten a decent result from whatever they tried.
00:47:54
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You know, I just can't say, many times it's very, very clear that the product worked. You know, in my case, I took the bone and joint product. Boom. My bone joint muscle problems disappeared. Easy. You know, you give people some diet advice, some enzymes, probiotics, they fix their digestion. Easy. We know it worked. Structured water. I've never seen it be that clear cut. And so I haven't been promoting it in quite a while.
00:48:20
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And every time I do mention it in favor of it, I do support the idea, the theory. I think it needs to be proven. So I've got some books here to try and convince me because maybe there is some evidence that I'm not aware of, but the evidence right now is mostly just theory. It's a good sounding theory. And yes, naturally the water should be in much better condition.
00:48:43
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all forms of pollution and negativity and all this stuff should distort the structure of the water. And that should matter for our food as well. So we have food that's made by this inhuman mechanical system. I don't expect it to have any good energy in it. And I expect that to affect its structure. And I expect that to affect us when we eat that dead food, basically. But this is just a theory. So I don't actually have results to report.
00:49:11
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I know people who take the selling of it much more seriously. They will claim a lot more results, but when I'm comparing it to getting people off processed foods, fixing their digestion, getting them topped up on nutrients, killing parasites if they're in there for that's what we have to do. All those types of things give clear cut results. Structured water doesn't. It just doesn't. So I can't believe in it yet. And let me, let me even quantify that further.
00:49:41
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There's places that are said to have a better structure, like certain springs and stuff like that. And they're known to be healing places. The problem is people will use that same story to explain multiple different things. Let's say, okay, it's the lithium that's in the healing waters. Oh no, it's actually, it's the sulfur that's in the healing waters. Oh, one book on my shelf back here, he went and he claimed that
00:50:06
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All the blue zones or all the long live places all have high silica in their water. Okay. That's why, okay. Those are all nutrients I can get behind. Very recently I've become very interested in hydrogen water, which is not really natural at all, but that exact same story was used to promote the hydrogen water that in some of these springs, they're high magnesium and magnesium splits water apart. It splits it into hydrogen and oxygen.
00:50:33
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You can do a chemistry 101. I did chemistry 101 in college and this little experiment where they drop a little piece of magnesium into a tube of water and it literally eats the water. It makes its way down and it's eating it as it goes. The water is disappearing and it's turning into oxygen in one tube and hydrogen in another tube. So it's creating these gases. So the theory is that these
00:50:57
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some of these springs that have high magnesium that's actually splitting apart the water and creating excess hydrogen molecules in the water. I'm just saying all this because people are also saying oh it's because of the structure of the water. Well this might be a chicken
00:51:13
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chicken and egg situation here. I don't know which one came first. Is it because it has all these minerals in it and it's naturally coursing through the earth and that's, you know, or is it the structure that's giving it these properties? Is it the structure that's enhancing the mineral properties? Is it both of them? Honestly, I would lean towards the minerals. All those ones mentioned are extremely important. Lithium is extremely important. Trace minerals essential. Sulfur is ridiculously important. We need more of it. Magnesium is also very important.
00:51:44
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And if it does the hydrogen water thing, again, that's an elemental explanation that I'm much more in favor of. But should we be eating or consuming this gross wastewater and stuff? No, of course not.
00:52:00
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That's also another thing, right? They'll say, oh, our gray water, you know, the water from our taps is basically gray water because we poop in it and stuff. And it goes back into the same system and they just filter it out. So whatever comes out of your tap now, it is still gray water. It's, it's being reused from a gray system. So they say, well, okay, that's ugly when you freeze it or whatever. I don't know if it's because of the energy. It's because it's.
00:52:25
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Yeah, it's been contaminated, all this stuff. I'm just not sure how important the structure is itself or that any other cleaning method, you could correct me if I'm wrong, if you know more about this, but distilled water, filtered water, water with intention put into it, put through a spout with a spiral on it. Is that actually making the difference? I really don't know. Or is it naturally better structured when we filter it, clean it, put love into it? I don't know.
00:52:54
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I don't know these answers, but I think it's been blown out a little bit. You can tell this is not my expertise here, but it's a confusing subject because people are making huge claims about the structured water. Whereas to me, if you drink the best water ever permanently, never ever take another sip of any contaminated water, any tap water, any sugar water, and you never do any of that again, you're still going to have health problems if you don't get the essential nutrients.
00:53:20
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And if you correct those nutrient deficiencies and imbalances, the structured water should just be irrelevant.
Practical Health Approaches
00:53:28
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And again, we sell this too, like we have a product. I could be here saying, yeah, it's the best, you know, it makes total sense. It does make sense, but I'm not willing to promote it if I don't know for sure that there's great results with it. And I can't see that. Well, that answers why I always say that you're a breath of fresh air.
00:53:50
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Well, you're brutally honest, and I appreciate that. Yeah, and I think it certainly is theoretical in its basis because one of the things that we've talked about is we are mostly water, if you want to look at it, 70% by volume or 99.9% by molecular count. However you want to look at it, we're mostly water, but we don't leak when we're cut, and we're not
00:54:14
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made up of pure water, right? We're a liver and a kidney and an eyeball and all these structures, all these organs or whatever have water in them.
00:54:25
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And so I guess that's the idea, I guess. It's theoretical, right? It's theoretical. And the thing is, is that you can consume unstructured tap water and people are still going to be structured in nature, right? And it's almost like what you said when you provide the right nutrients, you can detox. Well, when you provide the right nutrients, you can structure properly. Maybe there is a structural problem. I'm not sure. But if you're consuming unstructured water and you don't have the right nutrients, maybe it's a structured problem. I have no clue.
00:54:53
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The thing is, is that our bodies, you know, are structured and we are mostly water and that is the theory. It's the theory of the basis of it, right? And it's, you know, maybe it is unimportant and I really appreciate your perspective because.
00:55:08
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because it's like, is that the number one thing? And it makes me think of, there's this idea of the cell salts, the 12 cell salts. Now, some people say that these are the essential nutrients, right? That's the 12 cell salts, that's all you need. And these are step down energy transformers of the constellations, right? And they have that spiritual aspect to it. And they say that these provide the residents and the biogeometry for the structuring of our living world, of the natural world. So, you know,
00:55:38
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I don't think you're far off in thinking that maybe the minerals before, but again, it's chicken and egg, right? And it's like, can we even get these answers? Can we definitively have an answer for this? Oh, if you look at the results, it's, you know, people tend to, as they get healthier, people tend to act in a healthier manner and go outside more and spend more time in nature. And you know, you're eating the nutrients and you're eating whole foods. You're avoiding the processed foods, you're avoiding
00:56:05
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You know, people in the health community tend to avoid tap water and things like that. I think there is an argument that, you know, tap water is problematic, especially with the amount of fluoride and that you're definitely imbalanced if you're drinking that. But, so yeah, it is, it is a, it's a big topic. And, but I think you, you summed it up very nicely actually. And, um, I want to throw in one other thing for the research. Yeah. I'll update you.
00:56:34
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I just picked them up. See what's up. Like I said, I've gotten really into the hydrogen water recently. I've sold water filters before too. In fact, we've got some for sale right now. So it's not the prime business, but I believe in clean water. But let me say this, I've never seen a case that needed to quit tap water to heal. Never. Never. You know, I just said, people that come to us are healthy to begin with. They already don't drink tap water and you know, they don't use regular deodorants and they do all this stuff.
00:57:04
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The other half don't care at all. Water comes from the tap. They're civilians. They're blue collar civilians, most of them. I don't mean civilians bad thing. They're not a health nerd like us. They still drink tap water. They drink Kool-Aid. And for the most part, they don't take our food advice. They might take some of it. They might go gluten free, maybe.
00:57:29
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And, but they're the type of people that say, okay, you know, I mostly got rid of it, but I still have a little bit here and there, you know, they're just not taking it a hundred percent serious. And most of those people get great results without doing anything else other than giving them our basic doses of the 90th century nutrients. Sometimes we got to go in and do some more detective work, find out where there might be an imbalance or something. But for the most part, most people get great results just with our basic program.
00:57:54
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So at least half of those people, the ones out there in the real world, the ones that I've dealt with mostly in real life and blue collar towns that I've always lived in. They still drink tap water. They do not buy organic food. They still eat a lot of processed foods. Even if they go gluten free, they, they buy gluten free cookies from the grocery store and gluten free bread. It's still junk food to us, basically, even if it's gluten free, it's just, you've heard me say that. It's still junk food. My point is I've never seen a case that had to get rid of those things in order to heal.
00:58:23
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Not one where tap water was the thing. We tried everything else. And we finally said, what are you drinking tap water? Okay, get rid of the tap water. Boom. Their osteoporosis is gone. Never seen a case like that ever. In theory, it may be important for serious hormonal problems. I'm talking like PCOS endometriosis and women, gynecomastia enlargement of the nipple for men, the gland behind the nipple.
00:58:51
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Those are cases where I could see the chemicals being a thing where we want to fully strip them out. In fact, the only practitioner who I've ever met, Dr. Sam Shea, he's the one that actually told me he could, the only one I've ever met who told me he could actually reverse gynecomastia because I have some results with some guys.
00:59:11
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not 100% results, especially not with severe cases where they've got a hard gland behind their nipple, the size of a golf ball or bigger. But Sam Shea said, this is what I do. I give him the nutrients. Well, he does a gene test to see what nutrients they need. You get serious about it. It gives them the nutrients, get some off all processed foods, obviously, of course, and then eliminates all those other things at the odor and whatever
00:59:34
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Is it probably, is it necessary for gynecomastia? Probably, honestly, cause it's a severe imbalance and so you want to get rid of all hormone disruptors. But I can say with confidence that, you know, all these other people who have the leading diseases, you know, the arthritis and osteoporosis and diabetes and high cholesterol and whatever, early dementia, all the, all this stuff. They've never ever had to get rid of tap water. I don't tell them to get rid of tap water. It's not part of our protocol. We give them tons of information. We can't tell them everything.
01:00:04
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So yeah, just really want to hammer it in. I know there's lots of garbage in tap water. I wouldn't personally drink it. I don't want birth control residue and other drug residue and a fecal contamination and high levels of chlorine. And I don't want any of this. I don't want fluoride, extra fluoride, you know, it's industrial waste, all this stuff. So I choose to avoid it, but I've still never seen it actually cause a disease outright or be the thing that reversed it. And I know I'm kind of rambling here, but I should
01:00:34
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hammer this into with the organic food. I believe in organic food. I believe it's better to consume food that hasn't had pesticides in it, whether it's killing my bacteria or not. It's still, it's a sicker animal, sicker plant. I don't want anything to do with it, but I've never personally seen a case where going organic was the thing that fixed them. Again, this is showing my theory here, my hypothetical situation here. This will be somebody who's already on our basic 90 cents nutrients.
01:01:03
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They're off all the bad foods. They're not eating gluten. They're not drinking carbonated drinks with a meal. They're not burning their meat. They're not eating processed meats. I have a pretty short list of bad foods. There's a few more, but they're doing that. They're doing all that. They still have a problem three months later. Come and do some detective work. Can't see anything. Can't see any imbalances or anything. There's never been a case where I just say, okay, get rid of all your food and go 100% organic. And then they come back, you know, a month, three months later and say, you know what? My problem's finally gone.
01:01:32
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It's just never ever happened to me. It's always been processed foods, maybe parasites and nutrient deficiencies.
Community and Emotional Health
01:01:40
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I've never actually had a case where it was outright toxicity yet. I might, I might change that soon because I do have one case right now where we have tried almost everything with her, not everything, but almost everything.
01:01:53
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I should email her after this action and see how she's doing. We found out that she was massively, massively vitamin C deficient because she could take huge quantities of it before bowel intolerance and fix the problem for a little bit for like a few days.
01:02:09
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a week and then it went back. And this is a pain problem. She got pain everywhere. So my theory was that that was actually liberating heavy metals in the body. And that's why she got better first, but then it got worse after because the heavy metals were now liberated because vitamin C binds with heavy metals.
01:02:26
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It's just a theory, but that's what we tried next. And that's why I want to go and check in with her, see how it went. It's been a couple of weeks now that we've had her on some heavy duty products for getting rid of toxins from the body. Basically that she might be my first case that we needed to remove the toxins to actually get a result. Cool. Yeah. Well, I really liked the way you go about it. It's like, you're like a detective, right? It's like, and just your statements are sound and it's, it's like logical. It's like.
01:02:55
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You know, what's the one variable that you change as a tap water? No, it's, it's never been. And like, I, I don't think anybody would ever attribute it to being the one thing. And so I guess when I look at toxicity, it's like a little bit from everywhere is how I kind of view it, right? It's like, you get the tap water. So you're getting the trace, pharmaceuticals, you're getting the trace birth control, fluoride, whatever chlorine.
01:03:17
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you're putting the deodorant on, you have air fresheners in your car and you have them in your house and you use Febreze and you use toxic cleaners and you use shampoos and petrochemicals and all your cosmetics and things like that. And I suppose that's how I would look at it. And it's just a really interesting observation. Like you said, it's results, that's what matters. That's what matters at the end of the day, right? I'll knock no one if they find results. And it's simply that, right?
01:03:46
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I don't care if it's placebo, whatever, right? And it's even hard to eliminate placebo out of anything, right? Like, but, um, yeah, that's great. We always want placebo. You want the placebo response. Yeah. It outperforms most drugs most of the time. It'll outperform most nutrients most of the time, especially if you're putting one nutrient up, you know, see what happens when more vitamin C there's going to be a major placebo component to that, but that's great. Sure.
01:04:15
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people with a good attitude, they're going to do better in general. And this whole thing about structured water, yeah, you can structure your own water in your body. I do believe this, because they say structured water, even the one that I sell, it's described as a catalyst, meaning you take a small amount, like a little cap full of the structured water, and it's supposed to hit your water in your tongue, and then ricochet through the whole system and cause a chain reaction to structure all the water in your body. Well,
01:04:43
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If you look at the Emoto stuff where we are the ones projecting our emotions or our intention on the water and it's changing the structure of the water, I see no reason why our own positive intentions would not structure our own water, especially if that was actually your focus. There's a lot of great stuff that comes out of the world, the cancer research world and stuff where people are using positive visualization for their tumors.
01:05:13
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It's going to outperform whatever therapy you're doing. If you believe that the chemotherapy is going to work, you know, you truly, truly believe you have faith in it. It should work much better. You should have a much higher chance of surviving. This is our intention. So I do think this is important. You do want the placebo response. If you don't think something's going to work, it's not going to work, probably.
01:05:35
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It's hard to force something. There are a few things that can outperform negativity, but, you know, we call that the no SIBO. Someone you got to drag and someone's wife drags a guy to us and says, he's got kidney stones. You got to help him. And I tell him everything to do. And he's begrudgingly does it. He's not going to get the best results. He might, maybe, but he probably not. He's probably not even going to implement the protocol properly because he's sour about it. He's not doing it of his own volition.
01:06:05
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I'm just saying people that make the choice, like you said earlier, you know, they tend to do a whole bunch of different things at once too. So it works both ways. Your placebo should be acting. Yes. First of all, but also that should be causing you to take a multiple good steps. You know, you don't hear very many cases where they say, okay, I've got a cancer diagnosis. And then I went and bought apricot seeds for the B 17. And that's all I did. I didn't change anything else.
01:06:30
Speaker
I kept going to work, acting the same. I kept eating pizza pockets, drinking sodas all day. It's the only things I ate, but I added those apricot seeds and I got better. Rarely do you ever hear a story anywhere near resembling that. Usually they say, okay, I got the cancer diagnosis. I bought some apricot seeds. I bought some extra vitamin C. Actually, I went to the health store and I bought all kinds of stuff. I bought some algae. They bought products. They don't even know what it is. They were talking to someone in the store. They bought some essential oils. Okay.
01:07:00
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One of our customers right now has a testicular growth. I don't think it's cancer. It's probably a cyst, in my opinion. It's gotten really no other symptoms. What does he do? He gets on all the 90 essential nutrients, of course, gets rid of all the bad foods immediately, starts doing acupuncture, starts doing massage. He just did a retreat down at the Dr. Sebi thing, Dr. Sebi camp. It's in Honduras or Ecuador or something.
01:07:27
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Sorry, I can't remember. Maybe Guatemala. It's in Central America somewhere. I'm just saying he just did a whole bunch of stuff. And he's still asking me, hey, is there more that I could do? And that's just a very common story. So you'll hear a lot of people in the organic thing do this, too. People might say, oh, yeah, I switched fully organic. I think that's really what saved me. But really, they did a whole bunch of stuff. They started jogging or meditating or doing yoga. They took time off work.
01:07:56
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Again, changed a whole bunch of foods, not just went to organic, right? Maybe they got off pizza pockets and got onto salads, which even if it wasn't organic is going to be a major benefit. And maybe they did get on a bunch of supplements. They usually do. I'm just saying having a positive attitude is going to cause you to do a whole bunch of different good things. And that's what health is. You asked at the beginning, what is health? There are so many different things that can bring us down and knock us down.
01:08:22
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If you do nothing, you will be unhealthy. It's the default situation. You will freeze to death. You'll get eaten by an animal. If you've ever been out in the ocean, if you don't swim towards the shore, if you don't keep yourself moving towards the shore, you will get pulled out to sea and you will die. If you do nothing, you will lose basically in this world. Very harsh world here. We have to do all kinds of different things. Not only do we have to stay warm and get food, calories, fat, protein, carbs,
01:08:50
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We also have to get all these micronutrients so we get a disease, but also all of the longest of populations have tight communities, strong families. In most cases, there's multiple generations under one roof where I lived in the Cuyah Peninsula, Costa Rica. When the daughter gets pregnant, the boy moves into the family home immediately. There's no question. You know, they don't go off. Yeah.
01:09:16
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do their own thing and they both get a full-time job to try and pay their crappy one-bedroom apartment? Absolutely not. They'll build them a shed in the backyard. You live here now. That's it. When we're old, people take care of us. They're all raising the baby together and all this stuff. There's seven, eight, 12 people in one small little concrete house. Very, very normal. It's normal in all the blue zones to have very strong communities, even Loma Linda, California, Utah. Utah is usually one of the most, the healthiest states in America.
01:09:47
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if not B, changes every year, but sometimes they're in the top spot. Sometimes they're high up there on the list. They have strong communities, strong values that bring them together. All of the blue zones are religious, all of them. The Hunza people in the Hunza Mountains in Pakistan, they are Muslim. They've been Muslim for hundreds of years. Loma Linda, Seventh Day of Indus, Utah, Mormons. In Costa Rica, they're Catholic, Roman Catholic,
01:10:16
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doesn't matter what the religion is to me. It matters that they have a religion. They have a shared set of beliefs, not just a belief that they have and everyone thinks they're crazy for having it, a belief that they share with their community. Whether it's true or not, it doesn't matter. It matters that they believe it. So yeah, this stuff, this strong family stuff, this strong community stuff, absolutely, it seems crucial to the pie here of all the things that we have to do to be healthy. You can't just supplement your way out of a bad diet,
01:10:44
Speaker
If you're stressed, that will negate the diet that you have. It will cause problems on its own. It'll cause nutrient deficiencies on its own. It'll cause hormones to be made in excess and organs to burn out. You can't out supplement that. So there's a lot of extra things here.
Natural Rhythms and Rest
01:11:00
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Napping. Read, you know, when the newspaper interviews someone for their 100th birthday or more, or a couple has been married for a hundred years or 90 years, you often see a sweet little piece
01:11:12
Speaker
in the newspaper, you know, what made you stay together so long and what made you live so long and all this stuff. Almost all of them mentioned napping, taking the ease, nap a lot, rest a lot. Those same huns of people, the Georgian people, they work hard in the summer when they're planting their crops, harvesting their crops. And then it's a long, brutal winter that they hibernate through and they do almost nothing during that time.
01:11:39
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So we've kind of screwed up all these natural rhythms. There's a natural rhythm to the day, the circadian rhythm, where our hormones are naturally tied to. There's seasonal rhythm. There's a year-long rhythm, basically. And there is, in most places, a period of hibernation. Even in the tropics, go back to Nicoya, they have a rainy season. We call it the monsoon season. They just call it the rainy season.
01:12:04
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During the rainy season, you're not doing much. You're not going out fishing. You're not planting crops. You're sitting at home watching football, basically. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think that's great. And that's why here, like we have said, and we'll continue to say that, you know, health is very individual and it's important to take responsibility for your health.
Individual Responsibility in Health
01:12:23
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It's important to take responsibility for your life and to be in charge and in control of your life. And I love that you brought that up. It's taken it easy because I'll tell you what, every long-lived person that I know,
01:12:33
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It's not that they don't live, they don't have stress in their life, but it is that they're stress resilient and that they have ways of managing that stress. And they, in turn, they seem to live unstressful lives because they may be unfazed by the stress or whatever it may be. But, but like you said, they relax. They, they, they, they, they chill, man. They, you know, if they, and they all seem to have faith of some kind. I think that's an important point to stress too. I think.
01:13:01
Speaker
You know, you're, you're the guy that I ordered the book. I haven't read it yet, but what is it? The atheist syndrome. I haven't read it yet, but yeah, I'm looking forward to that one. And I, I referenced it actually in an earlier podcast because I think it's hilarious, but it's also very true. And, um, I think that is an important aspect to health and life in general, but that was an interesting book. It's that's a hard book. I just stumbled upon it at a Christian book store in, uh, in Texas.
01:13:31
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So, of course, where you find the best Christian material. Very interesting, yeah, that some of the people that we even revere, society reveres, like Darwin and stuff, it shows that they were really kind of sick inside. If you analyze what they did, what they said and how they lived, they were mentally unhealthy. Nietzsche was another example in that book. And yeah, I think they make a great point there, actually, and I'm not religious.
01:14:01
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I don't really care. I do believe in God of some kind. It's not that important to me. Maybe we live in a video game or whatever, but I absolutely have faith that what I do matters. I have faith that I am in control of my life. Uh, whether it's health or wealth, finances, you know, my situation, my relationship, you know, it's not, these aren't things that are happening to me. These are things that are happening because of me and I'm in control of my life, basically. It's just a really, really important thing. Whether you pray to Jesus for.
01:14:30
Speaker
the answer or you just believe that you have the answer within you already, you just got to find it. To me, it's the same thing. You're putting your faith that things are going to be all right. Even if you're a bitter person, I've heard of some bitter old people. They weren't, they didn't have a great attitude, but I don't think they were concerned about waking up tomorrow. They have faith. They believe they're going to wake up tomorrow. They believe it's going to be fine. You know, the, whatever's in the news, they believe that things are going to go back more or less to normal, you know,
01:14:59
Speaker
Yeah. They're going to go to war or whatever. It doesn't matter. It doesn't, doesn't affect me. I have faith that the world is going to be okay. We're going to survive another day, et cetera. It doesn't have to be religious faith, but religious faith is probably more, it's probably more powerful. Collective. There's a collective aspect to it, right? Yeah. And when everyone else believes, believes it, it's very easy to participate. It's nice to participate.
01:15:26
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I mean, I've gone to church, even though I'm not willing to say that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior, which some people get upset about and they want to force me to say it. I still have fun. I still have a good time. I still feel the good energy going to church, doing the singing. You know, they're doing a sermon.
01:15:46
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I don't care what the Bible says. I know that's going to offend some people. I don't care. I wasn't raised in this, you know, but the whole exercise of picking a sentence and then really picking it apart over like a 45-minute sermon, that's excellent to me. I don't know. I enjoy the whole process. I feel uplifted when all the singing's going on. Probably all those positive vibes. Dr. Imoto times 100, however many people are in the room. It's cranking up the good vibes. It feels great. The building's designed for it. You know, the pipes or whatever.
01:16:17
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Um, can't remember the name of the, of the instruments that they use. It feels very good. Oh yeah. And Oregon, sorry. Yeah. Yeah. The Oregon and every other religion is going to have some, they have all these little rituals and stuff and they don't even have to make sense. You know, I don't know. We light the candle on this day and then tomorrow we'd light another one. And then after a few days we're done. And I don't know, this is when we fast, like it doesn't to me need a material explanation.
01:16:44
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It's good enough that your other people believe in it and that you're doing it together. And it takes us away from the stresses of life, the pressures of life, because even in that primitive environment, there's still lots of stresses and pressures as well. Having all these things, gluing them together and, you know, walking them around the calendar, you know, it's just a matter of time till we get to this next thing that we do.
Collective Energy and Media Events
01:17:04
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Back in the Koya Peninsula, they have rituals all throughout the year, you know, where different things happen, holidays happen and they get together and they do a party on this day and it's
01:17:13
Speaker
Nobody knows why anymore or cares. They just do it. Yeah. Well, even like the native Americans, they have their powwows and they, you know, it's, it's according to nature and it's in every population you look at, you're going to find something that's collective, that's shared, that, that is like a celebration of just life. Just being alive, being grateful, things like that. So I don't know if you're familiar with Rupert Sheldrake, but I like to bring up Sheldrake.
01:17:43
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kind of at every opportunity because whatever I believe it's probably some version of Sheldrakeism. And he talks about these fields that are created when we do something. Once a field is created, it's easier to do that thing. And other people are more likely to do that thing. And I think that's what was the good thing about religion and all these ceremonies and holidays and all this stuff is that everyone's on the same wavelength.
01:18:10
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Literally, everybody's within the same field and it feels good to be in that field. And this was even true when we all used to watch cable television because, you know, everyone would watch whatever the show was and then the next day they would talk about it. But when when it was on, everybody's literally participating in that field at the same time. Or like when an Olympic ceremony is on. A billion people watching it. That field is greatly enhanced in its power.
01:18:40
Speaker
And, you know, most of your audience would probably believe that all these celebrities are doing like evil black magic rituals when they're doing the Super Bowl shows and the Olympic openings and stuff. But still, the point is that they go out of their way to broadcast it to a billion people so that more and more people can participate in it. They do all this advertising and stuff. Make sure you watch the Oscars because they want everybody in the field at the same time. You ever watched a sport game or a fight the next day? You avoid it. You don't know who won, but you saved it. You taped it.
01:19:09
Speaker
You watch it later, there's no energy there. It just feels dead and boring. You gotta be there. That's what they say, right? You gotta be there. You gotta watch it on pay-per-viewer. It's not even worth it afterwards. It's because of the field. All the energy is there at that time. I bring this up because probably one of the worst things that we have done is we've all split off and done our own thing. You know, we've all got social media. It's all showing us something different. Things go viral, sure.
01:19:37
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We're all in our own little field. So instead of having some strong fields that we can participate in, even if they're completely useless rituals and useless holidays that don't, they don't mean anything. They're just something we do. We've gotten rid of that. Now everybody's doing their own thing all the time. You know, you can stream something whenever you want and whatever. And it's just not the same basically. So I think there's a big gap there in our, in our socialness. Like we don't live in big strong families.
01:20:06
Speaker
I'm here in my house by myself right now. My housemate isn't even here. It's a weird thing to be disconnected from the energy of everybody else and to be going completely on your own wavelength. Inevitably, it's going to be not as strong, not as comforting as just participating. I know this kind of sounds like, oh, you want to be a sheep in the herd? Well, kind of. All these long lived populations, they don't really question this.
01:20:33
Speaker
You know, they don't have this existential thing. Am I really a Muslim? You know, what is the purpose of life? It doesn't seem like they have a lot of this stuff. They just do what they have always, they do what their ancestors have done. You know, the Okinawa people, they add the ash, the rice straw ash, they add it to the
Traditions and Community Health
01:20:52
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rice noodles. It's just what they do. They don't know that it has minerals in it. They probably don't care. Maybe it has some taste, but it's just something that they've been doing forever.
01:20:59
Speaker
It's like all the stuff that they do. They've always been doing this forever. Those people that have preserved those traditions. And the best we have today is religions or these new kind of collective thoughts that people are coming up with now, like this whole emoto thing and growing your own food and all this healthy thing is a vibe itself. It's a field itself. But I think we've lost a lot, especially with the social media thing and just the lack of collective rituals.
01:21:30
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And, you know, I grew up in one of the most multicultural places ever, Toronto, Canada. And you get this melting pot effect where, you know, everybody's got their own holidays and it's just very little left for us all to participate in at the same time. Even if it's as useless as a basketball game or something, I think it's worth, worth preserving or worth getting more of those rituals in our lives. Hmm. Awesome. Yeah. And I will say.
01:22:01
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One of the things that I like that Jordan Peterson says, and he's one of these Nietzsche, you know, guru is on the internet now, is that as institutions do get larger, it does tend towards tyranny. I do agree with that. But I just love the perspective that you're taking that, you know, like, obviously you have to kind of separate it out. Like, you know, the people who practice Christianity or, you know, if they're Catholics or whatever, they don't
01:22:27
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They don't go to church and think about the scandals in the Vatican, or what the pastors are doing, or things like that. Sharing love with the community is what you see, and it's community coming together. And I love this perspective, because you're right, we're so lost. And I guess the new hippy types would be like, oh, the capitalistic mindset, we're all out for ourselves, and individualists, and we were trying to just get our own bags and do our own.
01:22:54
Speaker
Yeah. And there's, it's about balance, right? It's about, you know, you got to take responsibility, you know, care about your own life and your own wellbeing and whether that's financial or health or whatever it may be. But the communal aspect you can't deny it is even with a viral reel or a TV show that just comes out, there's, there's a little bit of
01:23:14
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There's a little bit of that community, even if it's, did you watch this or did you see this reel or something, right? It's like, you can still feel that energy. It's like, Oh yeah, I saw that. Like I love that. Right. So it's kind of funny. Like, even though it's not happening at the same time and I agree that is more powerful and cause it's like, I was watching a fight the other weekend and it was just some hometown guy fighting and like my little FLA and a little small league and like the energy I was feeling, I felt like the whole, like I'm from a little Island there. I'm from PPI and.
01:23:44
Speaker
And you just feel the whole island like was hyped for it. Like everybody was hyped. The crowd, the whole crowd there was hyped. They were all from PEI and it was in Moncton actually. And so it was just like, you just felt this collective energy and you know, I don't watch sports too, too much. And when I do, it's, you know, with my fiance's father, I'll watch football with him because, you know, it's a shared thing that it's just nice. It's you connect over it and it brings warmth. So yeah, I mean, I think that's a big part of health.
01:24:12
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I think it's a huge part of health. And a lot of people who study Weston A. Price, there's even people in the terrain community who know, I'm sure you'd have something to say about this, but they don't even think that deficiencies are a cause of disease. And I'm certainly on the fence about that. I don't really lean towards it. We've mentioned it in one of my episodes before.
01:24:33
Speaker
Um, they think that the communal aspect of Western a prices observation was the most important part. And I think, you know, you can't dismiss it, even though he was talking explicitly about nutrients, I think, you know, they were all living naturally communal. And, and so I think, you know, you can't dismiss it. And I think it's major, major factor. Well, I know we're going to be wrapping up here, but I should say that going back to the placebo thing, placebo itself is probably the most powerful
Power of Belief and Healing
01:25:03
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healing modality that there is. When that's employed with any other modality, you should get increased results. Like you should get a normal baseline of results with nutrients and getting off processed foods or acupuncture or whatever it is. But if you have placebo in there as well, it should just be enhanced. And there's a great book called The Biology of Belief by Bruce Lipton. There's lots of other books in the category, but there's lots of, you know,
01:25:31
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I would say now famous cases where you know incredible injuries or cancers or something we're very obviously going to kill the person but prayer especially communal prayer more than one person praying at the same time and positive visualization all this stuff it just has miracles you know the miracles are possible
01:25:53
Speaker
And I don't believe they're all made up all these stories, not just of healings, but of people being able to withstand incredible pain, incredible hardships. You know, we've all heard of the woman. I don't even know if it was a real case. It might just be folklore. The woman that lifted a Volkswagen Beetle off of her kid to save the kid, right? She just had this huge burst of strength.
01:26:11
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from her own willpower her own body some in that strength and i've been sent a lot of these videos to of guys like burning themselves grabbing a chainsaw while it's running. Nothing happening to them could be doctored we're in the time of a i at this point you know.
01:26:27
Speaker
might not be real I don't know but there's so many of these types of accounts throughout history and there's so many videos now it's really hard for me to discount so I'm saying that the mind is the most powerful thing when it comes to devices I've said this many times too I've seen more miracles or at least faster miracles with energy devices
01:26:47
Speaker
Then with nutrition, nutrition takes time. I'm not going to tell you that taking a spoonful of vitamin C is going to instantly stop you from having a cold or get rid of your hay fever or something, you know, something like a fatty liver disease. Selenium deficiency is going to be one of the big deficiencies there, trace mineral. Taking selenium right now at the proper dose is not going to reverse it today. It just takes time, right? The cells take time to regenerate, tissues to grow. Things got to be absorbed and saturated and
01:27:17
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There's things that can go wrong at each one of these stages. And it just doesn't happen instantly is my point with only a few exceptions. Like if you're dying of heat stroke or, you know, you're in a coma or something like glass of salty water or something could snap you out of it.
01:27:32
Speaker
could save your life very quickly. But for the most part, nutrition takes time to work, takes at least a few months of food changes to see anything to judge anything. But within minutes or seconds, you can see results with energy devices. And with those stories of people healing, you know, in inoperable brain tumors, and where their brain is just mush, traumatic brain injuries and all this stuff, and prayer fixes them, like within days or less than a week, it's just not even possible nutritionally. So
01:28:01
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If you do have faith, if you, and yeah, the community is part of that and everything, but I think you could do it individually. If you do have that much faith, that much intention, it probably can override most things. You probably will be much healthier than normal, but eventually you will succumb to something and that will more likely than not be a nutritional explanation.
Diet Adjustments and Health Improvements
01:28:24
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Great.
01:28:27
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Well, it's perfect time to wrap up. I think why don't you tell the listener where they can reach you, support you, help you grow and, you know, follow you and your work. Well, I have a website that has everything on it. I have written several books myself and help publish other books. Most of them are about health books are kind of my, my main gig. The website is not us books.org, not us books.org. You can find all our channels there.
01:28:52
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We are most active on Instagram. We do have YouTube channels really been pumping the podcast and putting a lot of effort into podcasts. My own, my own podcast. Most of the episodes are about health, but there's some abstract stuff there as well. Some conspiracies theory type of things. And yeah, I do a lot of book reviews. You can find all that all on my website, not us books.org. All right.
01:29:20
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I'll link that down in the show notes there. And so it's easy for you guys to access. And let me just, because you're on the fence. So just, I know we're five minutes overdue here, but let me just say, that's fine. That's fine. All the time we give advice for free. You can contact us. We can go through a whole questionnaire. That's how we started. We give you a questionnaire. You respond to it. We give you advice based on what you said, but we're always just saying things like get rid of processed food, get rid of gluten, get off gluten, just saying these things.
01:29:50
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All the time people come back to us and say, Hey man, I went gluten free a few months ago, feeling incredible, lost a bunch of weight, whatever the pride hemorrhoids. I don't have the hemorrhoids anymore. So if you have doubt that nutrition can cause disease or nutritional deficiencies or foods that these can cause or reverse disease, try it on yourself because many of these things are completely free. I'm not selling a gluten free lifestyle. Many people do these things on their own. They hear us talk about salt, they increase their salt, whatever it is. And they come back with a result.
01:30:21
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You talked about results based business, you know, it's what this is. So you can try these things for yourself and you can see if your life gets better. And if you do have a disease in the vast majority of cases, it is completely reversible with just the basic stuff. You don't have to do the detective work and stuff. You need to cover all the essential nutrients because we could have another two hour conversation about why you can't get them all in your food. We just have very, very basic
01:30:49
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overview of the problem. It can get a lot deeper than that, but you can see things can reverse. It doesn't matter if you've been told it's a kidney failure or brain tumor or whatever it is. They can't even fix a gang green leg. They can't even fix heartburn. I'm talking about mainstream medical doctors right now. All of those things are caused by nutritional problems. So with this whole terrain theory thing, we are fundamentally weak as a society, not as a species.
01:31:18
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It's our society that's we, you know, Weston Price talked about how people's skulls were getting smaller and they're not able to fit all their teeth. So their teeth are all crumpled up. Almost none of us have our wisdom teeth. We're all born at a disadvantage. That's physiologically and our immune system. Our immune system is tied yes to our mental and our faith and our intention. Yes, but also to our physical. And if we don't have the physical
01:31:45
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building blocks of our immune system, the probiotics, the vitamins and starches that they eat and produce, you know, the enzymes in the body to do the work, all this stuff. If we don't have it, the body's going to fail. If you give a carpenter a hammer and no nails, he's not going to build a very good cabin. Right. We need the right tools for the job. And it just so happens that us as vertebrates need a heck of a lot. It's again, at least 90 essential nutrients. It's probably closer to 200.
01:32:15
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if we were talking about maximum lifespan. Maybe that could be another conversation, but you can absolutely try these things. I promise we wouldn't be in business if this stuff wasn't true. You have to get results in order to keep your customers. Yeah, I agree. All right. That's awesome.
01:32:37
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All right. I want to thank you, listener. Thank you all for listening. I really appreciate it. Every time you guys listen to me, that's how you score me, you know, give me a follow. Like it feeds me and, and, uh, I love this. I love talking to people and getting more perspectives. You know, it's, it's great to learn. And, and, and I find it, you know, it's, it's a healthy thing in my mind. I think learning is great. So of course you guys should know that this is not medical advice. Uh, this is for general informational purposes only.
01:33:04
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but also remember that we're all responsible, sovereign beings, capable of thinking, criticizing and understanding absolutely anything. We, the people and the greater forces are capable of self-healing, self-governing, self-teaching, and so much more. Please reach out if you have any comments, criticisms, concerns, whatever it may be. I'll have to chat on Instagram beyond.terrain. And again, guys, I really appreciate you guys listening to this. Ryan, I appreciate you coming out. It was a great conversation.
01:33:33
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So if you found it informative in any way, give us a like, review, follow, comment, whatever you're listening on, subscribe if you're on YouTube. And just remember, there's two types of people in the world, those who believe they can and those who believe they can't and they're both correct. All right, guys, take care.