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Antlers. Kills. Soho
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We're back with Haunt reviews, Antlers, Halloween Kills and Last night in soho
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Reunion and Recovery
00:00:16
Speaker
you. All right. Welcome back to Fright Central where we talk all things horror. I'm Kevin Dock and I'm back here again with Keck. Long time no. Yeah what's going on buddy? Uh good. I mean we saw each other when I came back in October to visit for our birthday. Yeah that's actually the last time that I actually saw you when you were actually like here physically like uh in the flash.
00:00:31
Speaker
Welcome to the world of light.
00:00:38
Speaker
yeah i don't think we've done a cast since like uh yeah i don't think we did a uh cast since like september i've been busy doing uh haunts and the halloween stuff and then you know just you know work got in the way and i know work got in the way for you as well so it's been tough well now especially now that i'm like mobile again and i can like walk around and stuff like that like the last time you saw me i was still like sort of limping and stuff like that but um
00:01:04
Speaker
Now I'm a little bit more flexible I've actually been able to like start working out a little bit so that's a good thing and the only unfortunate thing is, you know, I now have to like actually work again. Yeah.
00:01:19
Speaker
You actually have to leave the house to work too.
Haunt Visits and Disappointments
00:01:22
Speaker
Yeah, I don't get my whole like getting out of bed and like just sitting on the couch and from my laptop and doing everything remotely you know what I mean where I don't even have to wear pants as long as like I keep the camera like fucking angled right so um yeah
00:01:40
Speaker
I mean, there's pros and cons, but yes, I'm glad I'm able to walk again. Yeah, me too. That's good. Yes, like during that whole, like I would say from mid-September all the way through Halloween almost, I did like 11 different haunts in like two different states.
00:01:57
Speaker
I believe it was. I did the Eastern State Pantentry which was probably my favorite one. They had like a new setup where you kind of went through the two quick mazes and then you were like outside in the open area then you can kind of walk around and go into the different mazes and they had a like in Al Capone cell they had like a it was like VIP only where you can go in and you get like a
00:02:24
Speaker
You get a free drink and then you can kind of go into the cells. A couple cells that they had like set up to like you can chill out and like relax in them and stuff. Like it was really I thought it was really cool. It was probably my favorite favorite haunt that I had and we did want to walk through like actual tour things.
00:02:43
Speaker
that was like narrated by Steve Buscemi. So that was really cool. And then I want to say the worst haunt. Well, I did another really good haunt that was out here as well called Rain of Terror that was in Thousand Oaks and had like 130 different rooms. It's all like in like the like an old Macy's, I guess it's like in a mall.
00:03:06
Speaker
And it's like they have the whole upper floor, so they can keep it up year round they're actually doing something on the 17th like a Christmas Halloween themed haunt I don't know if i'll make it because of work but. yeah they had like 130 different rooms and it was just go through it on it's it's and midway through they have like a spot where the guy like kind of stops you to let the groups like you know get back.
00:03:30
Speaker
you know, away from each other, but they never were like rush you through and they and there's never a moment where like you you feel like you're getting crowded with the other groups or anything like that. So and they had a lot of animatronics and like people popping out of ceilings and out of fridges and stuff. It was really fucking awesome.
00:03:49
Speaker
It'd be awesome if you got paid to do that because you're real passing about. It'd be awesome if like you got paid to go to these haunts and then like go online and like write reviews like what you like, what you didn't like. You know what I mean? Like get into like specifics. That'd be awesome if like you somehow got that as like a side job. I would love to like design one. I think. Yeah, I would like to design one. I think that'd be fucking cool.
00:04:12
Speaker
But I don't even know how you get those jobs. But the one we did right after that was the Ventura Fairgrounds. And it was called Ventura Fairgrounds. And it was promoted as this haunt by the guy who's designed mazes for Universal and not Scary Farm and Six Flags. So I was really looking forward to this. I didn't see the presentation at Midsummer Screen, which I think I wish I did because
00:04:38
Speaker
Other people that did see it said they were trying to stay away from it because it looked like it was going to be bad. And it was. It was fucking terrible. It was the worst time I'd ever been to. We had to pay for park and we had VIP 10 o'clock tickets and we're 10.30.
00:04:56
Speaker
I think we got there at like 10.38 and apparently they closed at 11. And like the first sign that was gonna be bad was as we were pulling in, they were like, are you sure you wanna go in? We're closing soon. I was like, what do you mean you're closing soon? We have tickets for this time. Like what are you talking about? That sounds like that one Halloween episode of South Park, the like Harvey Weinstein one where like Hartman gets to the haunt.
00:05:19
Speaker
uh too late and they're saying the petting zoo is closed and the charro machine yeah like the petting zoo is closed like oh yeah like we got a pumpkin patch yeah yes yes yes and the witch of yeah um
00:05:34
Speaker
Yeah, that yeah, that's generally a bad sign when you roll up to a place and regardless of the state of it, if like one of the employees comes up to you and it's like, are you sure you want to do that? Yeah. As we go as we're going. Yeah, we're going in to check our tickets. And again, they were like,
00:05:54
Speaker
Yeah, we're closing soon. I was like, what are you talking about? We have tickets for this time. Why would you sell tickets for this time? Are we going to be able to get through everything? They're like, yeah, we'll stay open as long as you get through everything. Well, the first thing that was closed was their beer garden slash entertainment stage and food area. That was already closed by the time we got there at 10.30. I was like, well, this is already a fucking terrible sign.
00:06:19
Speaker
that they don't have any of the shit up and nobody's asked for my I would just ask for my and nobody was there so it was like just like you guys they're like keeping the place open. Yeah, like you VIP tickets for that time slot. Yeah.
00:06:34
Speaker
so we could skip the line. Well we go in and we're like well let's do the tram thing first and like there was a little bit of a line for that but it was just waiting for them to come around but there's no lines for the other ones so we were they were like go do the other ones first and then come back and do this one because this will take the longest and we'll stay open make sure you get on it. So we go through the first one it's literally just um
00:06:56
Speaker
fences set up like a maze and that's it there's like a couple scare actors but you can see them because it's just a fence and they had no like props or like uh animatronics or anything and we go through and we were like wow this is is this the line or is this the actual haunt and then we got through we were like i guess that was the haunt because there was a couple scare actors in there
00:07:19
Speaker
it was the fucking worst experience ever. Then we went through the second one and it was like this lice long maze where you're walking through like the abandoned part of the the fairgrounds where like they I guess they just store stuff there which that alone was cool but like again no props a few scare actors I think there might have been well there might have been like one or two props there was uh maybe one animatronic the entire thing and the entire including the no I guess there was one other
00:07:49
Speaker
animatronic to win the train ride, but it was fucking terrible. So, but it was a nice long walk, but like we kept going like, okay, are we through the maze yet? Or is this it? And then like a scare actor jump out and be like, okay, we're through the, we're, we're still in the maze. We had no idea cause there'd be like a long periods of like nothing.
00:08:05
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And it was like, you didn't realize whether it was the line or the actual event itself. Yeah, because there was nobody there so we're like, is this the line for it or is this the actual maze and then somebody will pop out and be like okay I guess we're in the actual maze and like,
00:08:25
Speaker
And then we came out and we were like, wow, this is already off to a terrible spot. And there was only those two mazes and then the train ride. And so we were like, well, let's do the train ride. It's not really a fucking train ride. It's like a golf cart that has like two extra golf carts hooked onto it. So it can maybe fit like 15 people. Uh, so we were on it and like, we, uh, did you actually expect like a real train?
00:08:48
Speaker
I don't know, you know, one of those little like kitty trains, but no, like I, you know, kind of like high expectations. If you want like a real train, like the long, uh, you know, universal like tour type of, uh, buses, it wasn't even one of those. It was like a small little golf cart thing, but with like two extra, uh, golf carts hooked up to it. I don't even know how they did it, but whatever. It wasn't even like a, um,
00:09:13
Speaker
a hayride or anything with a tractor. It wasn't anything like that. There were two other people that were with us as well because we came up after we got out of those mazes and it looked like they were already shut down and we were like, are we going to be able to get on this because we paid for these tickets? They were like, yeah, we'll call them right now. They called the guy to come back around again to get us. I guess there were still a few scare actors over there, but the only props they had was like,
00:09:41
Speaker
I think a couple of the guys had the chainsaws, but they had these giant blow-up pumpkin things that you see displays at Home Depot or whatever. They didn't even get the giant skeletons or anything from Home Depot. They just got the inflatable pumpkins. That was their whole prop.
00:10:01
Speaker
And we drive around and then like you come, we went through this warehouse that had a spinning bodies up top. And that was like the only animatronic there then a couple guys chainsaws, then you come out and you come back past the oh there was two other guys that would just stand there and like.
00:10:16
Speaker
I guess, do a presentation of something, but you couldn't hear what they say because the speaker was so blown out. So we're like, OK, I don't know what he was trying to say if he was trying to be scary or tell us important things. I have no idea. So he just bounced after after we got off that. And we were like, wow, that was such a fucking horrible time.
00:10:35
Speaker
that like I went home and immediately bought universal tickets because I needed something for the following Sunday because I needed something to get that bad taste in my mouth and I already know universal is not that great these days. I mean they have the money to get the names but like they don't do a whole lot but I was like I need to go and then I was like going online and posting like literally sent them messages about how terrible I thought it was
00:11:03
Speaker
And that it was like a scam that they were running and they didn't even like respond like, Oh, Hey, sorry. You had a bad time. Maybe we can refund you or like give you tickets or something like that. Now they straight up just blocked me.
00:11:16
Speaker
And then they turned off comments on, because I started commenting on all their like ads and stuff like that, that they were posting for, and I could start commenting on there and they turned comments off on that. So they basically like censored, like, you know, your bad reviews. Yeah. Like that were completely justified. We know we're using like bad languages, like saying like, you guys are a bunch of fucking assholes. No. Like that you were just giving like,
00:11:42
Speaker
actual like reasonable criticism yeah i pretty much just told like pretty much what i was typing was what i just told you i was like you guys yeah i was like anything that could justify their actions so they were just trying to censor you so that like people they didn't they didn't have bad reviews and stuff yeah the only places i were were some of those other like third-party ads i was able to post in there and then like and a couple other people would comment be like
00:12:08
Speaker
I wish I'd saw this ahead of time. Like this is terrible. I was like, yeah, they turned off my comments on the on the actual one. And I did this at like the beginning. I think it was the end of September, beginning of October. So plenty of time for people to see. And that's why they were blocking because they wanted people to fucking come to their.
00:12:23
Speaker
their shit and that was fucking awful. So rather than like take the criticism say sorry we'll refund you and like we're gonna like actively work on it to try to like improve this. Yeah or figure out what went wrong or something. Yeah. Oh I found the uh the guy who claimed to be the creator for it too and sent him a message
00:12:43
Speaker
and like he never responded or like got back to me. I think he just blocked me as well because I was like hey do you know what you they're claiming that you did over there and stuff like that and he probably like actually did design it and like just didn't do anything. There's one thing that social networking is like really good for. I would have taken that to like Facebook and Reddit like any platform where you could go to like get your voice heard
00:13:08
Speaker
Like, wow, that's really shit. That's really fucking shit. And then there was a bunch of other good ones in between. Um, but, uh, they're not really worth, uh, I mean, knots was super fucking crowded this year. And I was not happy about that. We only got on like two rides, but we got through all the mazes and we had VIP passes, but it was so packed. Like even VIP waiting for a ride was like 40 minutes.
00:13:34
Speaker
Well, Halloween was pretty much canceled last year. Yeah. So, you know, I still like understand people wanting to like get out there. You're saying it wasn't well organized. No, like they I feel like they oversold the VIP. Like if you buy VIP, you shouldn't have to wait 40 minutes.
00:13:50
Speaker
so i get like get on a ride you know what i mean it shouldn't be more than like 20 with vip like the actual line was like two hours long we were like we're so glad we didn't wait for that but like their financial office yeah we were only able to get on two two rides so then uh yeah it was just like so packed down there and since it's orange county they don't have to wear
00:14:11
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like you don't have to wear masks. Like at university, you have to wear masks even if you were outdoors at Universal. Yeah. Disney, even though they're technically in Orange County as well, they they still had mask mandates if you were outside. Oh, no, sorry. If you were outside, it's fine. But if you went to the store, you're in line for a ride. You had to put the mask on. Knots was just whatever. Like nobody gave a fuck.
00:14:36
Speaker
And it was super packed. If you had limited capacity and did that, that'd be fine. I wouldn't care as much. But when it was wall to wall people, it was tough to walk from one place to another. I've never seen that many people there before in my life. Yeah, that sounds really unpleasant. And you would think Halloween would be a great excuse for a mask mandate because a lot of people would go dressed up wearing
00:15:01
Speaker
You know, masks. Yeah, but you're not allowed to dress up. And when you're not, you're not allowed to dress up because they don't want you people to confuse you with the the actual actors. So that dress. Oh, gotcha. Yeah, that does that does make sense. I mean, I I still like, you know, I.
00:15:20
Speaker
I still want to dress up but like yeah I do understand why they would put that kind of like you can you can like sort of dress up but you can't like wear you know a Halloween mask, you know, like so but at Disney they won't let you dress up as any Disney character.
00:15:35
Speaker
or like as a character at all because they don't want because they're so strict about that like you can't like dress up they've always been that way yeah right yeah you can't dress up like it's a Jedi or something Disney or Disney's the fucking Nazis yeah I mean their codes it's understandable they don't want to like tarnish their brand with some fucking drunk asshole like showing up as a Jedi and like fucking with kids you know what I mean
00:15:57
Speaker
You think that like a drunk asshole would be the thing that tarnishes the Disney brand? I mean at the park. I mean at the park. I'm just saying like I don't think like somebody showing up to like one of their events drunk is like their major PR concern like throughout history.
00:16:19
Speaker
It's not PR, it's just they don't want customers to confuse, you know, draw an idiot with the actual. No, I understand. I'm just saying like Disney has done other things that I think would, yeah. Anyway, so it sounds like it was a pretty mixed bag for you this year.
00:16:41
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I mean, it was great to be able to go out and do all these things. And I would say I enjoyed more of them than I didn't. But it was just like that venture fair fairgrounds one fucking really fucking got to me so bad that it was like, kind of like every time I'd go through a maze, I'd just be like, man, like about that. That fucking one was so fucking terrible.
00:17:04
Speaker
And then it was their actions afterward. At first I thought you were kind of ranting on about this in the cast, but I'm glad you're saying that now. I'll have to bring this up again next year, just so people know not to go.
Film Restorations and Cult Classics
00:17:20
Speaker
It'd be one thing, you probably wouldn't be that pissed if they sent you something saying, hey, we're sorry about that. We're going to send you a refund. We apologize. We've had other complaints. It's been a tough year for us.
00:17:33
Speaker
like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, you know what I mean? Like, but instead they just blocked you and tried to make as much money by milking people into the same fucking trap. Wow. Yeah. Like, I kind of understand if like you didn't have enough actors to come out because it's kind of like we're, you know, hiring people to come out and like, you know, interact with other people is kind of tough right now. So like there were some places that did seem like they had less actors than they really should have. But at the same time, I understand why they didn't.
00:18:02
Speaker
But that wasn't the problem. I feel like they had a decent amount. But it was like they didn't have anywhere to hide. They were just out in the open. It was like you're not really jumping out as scared anyone if you're just standing there. So it was kind of pointless. So I don't know. But anyway, I'll have to bring that venture one up again next year before haunt season just to remind people not to buy into their fucking bullshit.
00:18:32
Speaker
Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That's just terrible customer service. Just all around and awful. Just say the name again, like one last time. It's venture of fear grounds and it was at the venture fairgrounds in Ventura County.
00:18:49
Speaker
All in all, thorough, through and through pieces of shit. Yes. But moving on, I did have two news items. One real quick was that Peter Jackson's earlier films like Dead Alive or Brain Dead if you're in the UK or New Zealand, Australia. Bad Taste, Meet the Feebles and Heavenly Creatures are all being restored in 4K.
00:19:19
Speaker
Oh, that's awesome. I love this. You meet the fables. And I believe Peter Jackson's like heavily involved at like he was like, yeah, I've seen a couple of them go through the 4K restoration process and it looks fucking beautiful. And he was like, oh, and they said that he had a lot of people filming like behind the scenes stuff back at the time. So he said there are, hold on, at least
00:19:45
Speaker
Seven to eight hours of us, of them shooting Meet the Feebles, an hour or two of Bad Taste, 50 to 60 hours of them filming Brain Dead, aka Dead Alive, and at least 70 hours, at least 70 hours of them shooting Heavily Creatures. And it's not just people talking to cameras, actually a guy on set filming us making the film.
00:20:08
Speaker
There's some pretty interesting stuff in there and none of it has ever been out. So he plans on doing a box set for those four movies. Oh, nice. Yeah, I was actually watching Dead Alive before you came over when you when you flew the jersey. I was actually watching it like a few minutes before you and Jane got here.
00:20:28
Speaker
Oh yeah, because we walked in, it was on. Yeah, that's awesome. I didn't know anything about that. I'm really interested in seeing how Meet the Feebles would come out because I don't know if I've seen many 4K or any 4K restorations of Muppet.
00:20:48
Speaker
Unless it's something new. I mean, I don't know if the new Dark Crystal series was in 4K or not, but that's all Muppets. Yeah, I think it'll be interesting to see how that works.
00:21:04
Speaker
Yeah, I definitely want to check it out. And especially all that behind the scenes footage that looks like it could be really interesting. And a lot of people I know that are into that type, a lot of people I've mentioned meet the feebles and they're like, what's that? I know a lot of people that had never seen that. Oh, yeah. I still meet people that never seen it. It's the Muppet Babies on crack. The easiest way to describe it.
00:21:26
Speaker
Yeah, I've, I've described it to like some people like, yeah, I'm not like into that type of thing I'm like you really should check it out. Hard like Jamie introduced me to that like when we're on God, I'm not sure when it was at 1980s when it came out. Yeah, I don't think I saw my worked at the video story. Yeah, I didn't know I didn't know anything about it. And like I just remember Jamie showing me like a short clip where like
00:21:53
Speaker
I think like one of the muppets was like hooked on heroin and he was like going to his dealer like you know police could you like spot me for like some heroin or something and he's like on the ground like crawling at him and dude's just like nah nah
00:22:10
Speaker
I was like, oh, awesome. Yeah, I definitely want to watch this. He threw it on in the video store, like the kids in there and stuff like that. You know, kids see that they want to watch The Muppet. So, you know, hey, they need it. You know, it's real life. People hooked on crack and dope, you know. Yeah, we used to throw on some fucked up movies while people were in the store back then. Oh, yeah.
Nicolas Cage's Indie Film Journey
00:22:30
Speaker
Yeah. But yeah.
00:22:33
Speaker
Then the other piece of news I had was remember that movie, Renfield, that Universal was making when Nicholas Walt was going to play Renfield. Well, they just announced he was going to play Dracula and it's Nicolas Cage. I thought you were going to say Gary Busey. Then Nicolas Cage finally gets to play Dracula.
00:22:50
Speaker
I didn't, I thought Nicolas Cage was only doing like small time indie films now. I thought he said he wasn't. Yeah, I think it's gonna be like one of the low budget like kind of like Invisible Man was. And what was the other one they did recently or they're about to do one.
00:23:07
Speaker
Well did he like set that in stone or did he just say like you know I'm having like I've just like lost my passion for like big budget blockbusters? I think he just kind of feels like he's not in that state anymore and he probably won't get hired for it is how he felt. Oh all right so he feels like he's like kind of been like casted down
00:23:28
Speaker
Yeah, he's kind of like he's kind of gotten to that age where he doesn't know if he could do like those action movies and like he doesn't he's not even sure if like he his name is big enough that he would get cast at one of those.
00:23:39
Speaker
So he was like, he was like, I'm kind of like, like some, a lot of the younger generations. I thought it was, I thought it was a personal preference thing with him. I didn't realize that he felt that he would not be hired. Yeah, I think I forget what the exact quote was. He was having a lot of fun with the more independent projects like Mandy and whatnot. I didn't realize, I thought, you know, it was personal preference and not like actual employment opportunity. I think it's a little close. I still thought it was a pretty big name.
00:24:06
Speaker
Yeah, well, I think a lot of the younger generation don't really know who he is. Yeah, but I think the actual quote was something like, I don't know if I'll ever do a big budget movie again, but I'm really enjoying doing like these like low budget indie films. So, I mean, yeah.
00:24:24
Speaker
What was it while he's Wonderland? Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, dude, like it was awesome. I mean, he was silent throughout the I mean, that's what I like the most. Oh, there's a new one that came out on a shutter that he's in. It's like something of the ghost land or something. Oh, I forget what it was called, but I haven't checked it out yet. And it just came out on on shutter.
00:24:52
Speaker
I mean, he looks good. He's in good shape. Like, he doesn't really show. I mean, Nicholas Cage, like, is one of those actors that, like, he looked, like, old to me when he was, like, really young. Yeah. So, like, I don't really notice his aging. And he, like, looked like he was kind of ripped in Willy's Wonderland, to be honest with you. Like, he looked like he was pretty fucking jacked up. So, he's in good shape and shit like that. But, um,
00:25:16
Speaker
There's always going to be work for Nick Cage. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I guess. Yeah, he's just not. He doesn't command the star power he once had. At least. Yeah, at least. I think he might feel that way. I think he could probably still do something like if they were going to do like a national treasure three or something like that, people would come out. Fire part three part two. I don't know. I think there was a rock on their rock part two.
00:25:42
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, that would be K. Although I think Sean Connery is unavailable now. Right. Sean Connery is unavailable. You can get Nick Cage and the rock.
00:25:55
Speaker
Yeah, you could. Yeah, you could do that. Yeah, that could happen. I mean, I think The Rock, I don't know if The Rock's going to be, I think he's planning on running for president. No, I mean, he has said that he plans to run for president.
00:26:15
Speaker
I'm not fucking around. He did in that show he did for Peacock. I think it was just called Young Rock. Matthew McConaughey actually suggested he might want to run for office, even though I don't think he's ever held any form of political office. Well, apparently that doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter anymore. So The Rock is President McConaughey's vice? Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:45
Speaker
I don't know. I mean, maybe that's what the country needs. Who knows? Whatever. But that Nicholas Cage movie was called Prisoners of Ghostland that just came out. Prisoners of Ghostland. I'm going to check it out. He's just the title, his credit as hero in the, I don't know if that's his name or just the title he's given. I don't know if he has any lines in it like Willie's Wonderland or Wally's Wonderland, but still, I'm going to look at
Horror Film Reviews: 'Antlers' and 'Halloween Kills'
00:27:13
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it. I think it looks pumped.
00:27:15
Speaker
Uh, anyway, was it while you're Willie? I think it's while I thought it was, I can't, well, it doesn't matter while you were Willie, whatever. I just have that. It's a Willie's Wonderland. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, moving on. Uh, so.
00:27:34
Speaker
We missed a bunch of movies so we're going to talk about at least three of them now antlers Halloween kills and last night and so I did see Ghostbusters but we're saving that for our next cast because
00:27:50
Speaker
Resident Evil Welcome to the Raccoon City just came out and I plan on seeing that this coming weekend. So we'll talk about those two movies on the next cast. I do recommend seeing Ghostbusters. I thought it was really good, but I recommend seeing that and then we'll talk about it on the next cast. But yeah, so let's start with Antlers because you said you had like the least to say about this one.
00:28:19
Speaker
Well, I don't know if I liked it. I enjoyed the film, but I mean, I don't think there was like too much to talk about. It was just like, you know, you're sort of like standard like creature in the woods, like coming out, like ripping people at the end.
00:28:35
Speaker
Yeah, the basic plot was directed by Scott Cooper, by the way. I at first thought it was like a demonic deer that was supposed to be doing this. I thought it was kind of like a creature from the woods type thing. I didn't realize it was based on the Native American lore of the Wendigo, which there's been other movies about. I think one was actually called just Wendigo that we watched together.
00:29:06
Speaker
Was it Lance Hendrickson? Was it Lance Hendrickson or was that Bigfoot?
00:29:09
Speaker
I think that was that Sasquatch movie. Oh, yeah, Sasquatch. That's right. Where Lance Anderson is the Sasquatch. I mean, this movie was not. I mean, my favorite movie about like the Windigo was, of course, Ravenous, which was just a fucking masterpiece with a great cast, well written. But, you know, that's on a whole nother level. This was a lot more. I guess that's that. I don't know if that's really a Windigo movie.
00:29:37
Speaker
For what? Ravenous. They talk about the Wendigo. Oh, yeah, I guess they do. Yeah, I was trying to remember. It's a it's a little different take on it in this one. This is pretty much in an isolated Oregon town. Middle school teacher and her sheriff brother become embroiled with their pneumatic student whose dark secrets lead to terrifying encounters with an ancestral creature at the Wendigo. That's the basic plot. I thought that the
00:30:03
Speaker
The writing was fine. The cinematography was great. The acting was great. It was a fine movie. It's nothing to write home about. You don't need to run out and see it, but it's worth a watch.
00:30:20
Speaker
you will be like upset about it but yeah it's very basic i think i would have been like a little bit disappointed maybe if i had like gone and saw it in theaters um like um i guess it's something that you could kind of like bring a date to or something like that that that wouldn't have been bad but if it was like me and like a couple of my buddies like going out for you know to the movies for a night like
00:30:41
Speaker
I think I probably wouldn't have liked it that much but um I mean just like you know sitting around watching it here like I thought it was like pretty good I watched it with another friend she liked it a lot um uh the kid the young the young boy whose like father had become the windigo yeah I don't think I had seen him
00:31:02
Speaker
uh in anything else before but um he starts off the movie by like um Kerry Russell who plays like um a school teacher in the movie he's one of her students he's in I don't like what first or second grade it's like it says middle school yeah so yeah well yeah I think it's like elementary school or something like that but um she becomes disturbed by um a poem that he reads or like a short story
00:31:29
Speaker
Oh, yeah, in class. And she suspects that he's like the victim of possible domestic abuse from his father because I think his father is like a single parent with the the mother had been had died when he was young and they were impoverished. He talks about like not having enough to eat and stuff like that. And so she's like very concerned about him.
00:31:58
Speaker
But what she does not do is she does not realize that her father is actually like a mythical creature that's like out there eating people. I guess that did not occur to her. Or like the small time sheriff who is an actor I really like. Jesse Pivens.
00:32:20
Speaker
He played Todd in Breaking Bad. Yeah, yeah. We'll remember that. And he's in the Fargo series. He's been in a lot of stuff recently. Yeah, he's been in a lot of stuff recently. He's actually a really good actor. Like, I like, I like almost everything I've seen him in. And yeah, he plays like the small time like dipshit sheriff, who is very skeptical of like what's going on and stuff like that. And they're finding bodies.
00:32:48
Speaker
that are badly mutilated. I mean, you know the story. Yeah, anybody that like is listening, like, yeah, like the story has been told a million times before. I thought Carrie Russell, like, gave a good performance. I love her. Like, I'm a big fan of the Americans. Like, you know, I mean, so like,
00:33:05
Speaker
I love her. I've always liked her. She's gorgeous. She's a talented actress. And I just thought it was a decent all around like mid-budget horror movie. Yeah, it's kind of hard to figure like what's like
00:33:21
Speaker
that's really bad about it but it's not necessarily like a great movie there is kinda like predictable like basic when do you go movies so there's no real mystery oh you're random will when do you go me yeah they're their own genre. What's this like the.
00:33:41
Speaker
I don't know like I like it kind of like was a slower build and it kind of kept enough mysteries for the characters themselves I guess but at the same time you're watching it you kind of already know what's going on so it doesn't really keep the mystery to you.
00:33:55
Speaker
So, but I don't know. It was, yeah, kind of like as soon as like, um, the spoilers, but whatever, uh, as soon as Jesse gets like, uh, like attacked by the Wendy go and like survives, I just knew he was going to turn it like, I know he's going to turn into a window, even though he didn't, by the end of the movie, he's, he's, they still hint at it. So it's like, yeah, he's turned into a windy go. Like it's kind of, then there was like.
00:34:22
Speaker
The emotional moment at the end where, of course, like, you know, whenever you have to kill a small child, that's kind of, you know, but, you know, it was a mercy killing. Keri Russell did what she had to do. And I don't know. I don't really have that much more to say about. I think we pretty much covered everything. Yes.
00:34:44
Speaker
yeah i can't even think of anything bad to really say about it so i mean it wasn't a great movie with you know like a stellar story and like you know breathtaking gripping performances but it definitely wasn't a piece of shit yeah it's definitely watchable it's fine the night i watched it was exactly what i was looking for
00:35:02
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It was pretty much exactly what I expected. It was a creature looks good. Yeah. Yeah. That is one thing I will say the creature look good. I think there was like sort of like sort of like a mixture of like CGI kind of combined with like just typical practical filmmaking. And it looked it looked good. Yeah. The creature that was one thing I should know. I'm glad you brought that up. The creature did look really cool. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah.
00:35:31
Speaker
there's really not much more to say. Moving on. Moving on. The next one was Halloween Kills, which I was sort of pleasantly surprised by. And just real quick, I mean, in case you've been living on the moon since 1978 and you just got back to planet Earth, the Halloween franchise is based about
00:35:56
Speaker
on a young boy who kills named Michael Myers who kills his sister. I love how the guy describes it in the movie by stabbing her in the tits. Yeah. And he says this to a little girl mind you and
00:36:11
Speaker
he kills his sister when he's like a young boy and you know is sent to like a mental hospital where he breaks out and 30 years later or 20 years later i forget who goes from being um he's able to be able to drive a car
00:36:31
Speaker
There's a little bit more to it than that is from the young boy who spends thirty years in the mental hospital to somehow during that period he transformed into a.
00:36:44
Speaker
demon who cannot be killed and is obsessed with William Shatner masks and uh yeah he wears the same mask and the same jumpsuit pretty much that he seems to have like an endless supply like you know like a prison jumpsuit. Well I think the current one he gets it from that gas station attendant he killed.
00:37:06
Speaker
He always seems to get, he always seems to find one. That's like, you know, they say Michael Myers, like he breaks out and then he goes home. Well, he breaks out and he finds a jumpsuit. And a mask. And a one-shot and a mask that's always available. And, you know, a knife if he can, but he then goes home. Yeah. That like somebody either brings to him or he just finds at a gas station convenience store.
00:37:34
Speaker
Well, I just wanted to for the sake of it. With the Halloween franchise, here's the thing. I really liked the first and second movies. Now, someone had originally told me that the first and second Halloween movies were filmed at the same time and just released at different dates. But we checked this out before doing the podcast.
00:38:00
Speaker
And it turns off that that was way wrong. The first Halloween movie was 1978, and the next Halloween movie doesn't come out till 1981. And I believe it started filming the same year. So that is an error that I've made. It's sort of like a myth, I think. Yeah, 1978 is the first one. Halloween II was 1981, and then Halloween III
00:38:29
Speaker
Which is a very unique Halloween in the franchise because it does not feature Michael Myers. It is a totally independent story from all the hour howlings in the franchise.
00:38:44
Speaker
a lot of people say it should be like stripped of the Halloween name. I totally disagree. This is actually what I would have loved Halloween to evolve into. Like I'd like the Halloween franchise like after Michael Myers to have like just like another like call Halloween but have like another Halloween tale because Halloween 3 the Season of the Witch was
00:39:07
Speaker
is actually one of my favorite halloween movies of all time well you know it's because it's because originally that's what it was supposed to be was halloween was going to be each movie was going to be a separate analogy i wish they can because they did that
00:39:24
Speaker
Second one and a lot of the footage there was a lot of footage used from the from like, you know, I guess that they didn't use from the first one into the second. And a lot of a lot of footage from the first one. And I think that's why a lot of people thought that they were filmed. And that's how that myth got started, that they were filmed at the same time. I had read that a lot of a lot of the set and a lot of the props from the original were all used in the second one.
00:39:50
Speaker
So, um, but, uh, yeah. Yeah. Then the third one was going to be the, a different story than the fourth one was supposed to be a different story, but everyone thought the backlash of the third one made him go back to Michael Myers. Cause I really love that character so much, which is understandable, but yeah. The one that Michael Myers and like, yeah, I do understand that, but like.
00:40:09
Speaker
If you watch Halloween three right now, even like all these years later, it like holds its own. Yeah, absolutely. At the very end of the movie when it shows that like they've been like they move Stonehenge.
00:40:24
Speaker
and they've been like grinding up pieces of stonehenge and using like a powdered stonehenge to like mix in to like the plastic that they're making the masks of and stuff like that and like I mean then there's like this crazy like android robotic chick but it all worked um yeah yeah it's like cheesy at the end but like
00:40:46
Speaker
I can't remember how young I was when I first saw it, but I remember being legitimately scared watching Halloween 3. I remember when that kid put on the mask and it eats his head and shit like that. And it basically melts his face and he dies like that. And the guys see it and they're like,
00:41:13
Speaker
Excellent. Everything's going exactly. I remember thinking like, holy fucking shit. Yeah. And like, you know, and then there was also like a great song where it was like three more days to Halloween, Halloween. Dude, I really liked it, but I don't want to get to how I could talk about do a cast just on Halloween three. Halloween kills. There was some there was some homages, I believe, I think.
00:41:41
Speaker
at one point you see the mask from Season of the Witch and then either this one or the last one. I can't remember. I know. Are you talking about the mask that the one kid was wearing when they steal the candy and then you see Michael Myers and they pointed out and they're like, hey, isn't that our friend's mask?
00:42:01
Speaker
Yeah, those three kids, there was three kids that had the mask that were featured in Season of the Witch. That's what it was. I didn't know that. I didn't know it from Season of the Witch. I mean, there were a lot of masks and that. Yeah, it was the one. It was the kid who was like, hey, what's that art? I think it's the pumpkin. I think a skeleton and a witch, I want to say.
00:42:25
Speaker
Yeah I'm the one that I'm thinking of is the one that Michael Myers is holding when the kids, this was a great part that I really liked in Halloween kills was they made a joke about Michael Myers and it really played off well a woman is approaching these kids in the middle of the night on the swings that
00:42:43
Speaker
these kids are up to mischief they've been like stealing the whole bowl of candy yeah yeah it was those kids that were like yeah the the the little girl is just like yeah you know there's just been this like asshole following us around like we're three years old
00:42:59
Speaker
he keeps popping out of the trees like and she's like hello and she's like oh yeah there he is over there and it's like Michael Myers like you know and it's just funny because that's what Mike Myers does in all the Halloween movies he kind of like pops in and out of the trees he like tries to blend in with the environment it works sometimes sometimes it doesn't but like when they see him
00:43:20
Speaker
She's like, Oh, isn't that, you know, our friend's mask and he's holding like a bloody shriveled mask. Yeah. Similar to what you would see in Halloween three. I didn't pick up on that.
00:43:31
Speaker
Yeah, the parts I liked were the flashback parts that made it look like it was from the original movie and they got the prosthetics they did to make the guy look like Donald Pleasence, I thought was phenomenal. But all that I really liked a lot. What I didn't like that much was like, I mean, I understand like the whole chant. There's one lady in the background that brought an iron.
00:44:01
Speaker
I don't know if you notice it, but I didn't notice it at first. So like people had pointed out online, they're like, they're like, there's a dude standing behind a fucking. What's his name? Tommy Doyle, the grown up Tommy Doyle. He like that. There's just a lady holding an iron. What are you going to do with that? I didn't. I didn't pick up on that. I didn't know. I mean, that was let me just say, though, I planned on hating.
00:44:31
Speaker
Halloween kills. I went into it thinking I'm only watching this because Doc wants to talk about it on the podcast so I'm putting myself through this for Doc. That's cool. I don't mind that. I totally, I really, really dislike the last Halloween movie that I saw.
00:44:52
Speaker
I went there with a bunch of drunk people to see it on my birthday and that didn't really help matters. But I really disliked it. I was just pleasantly surprised by this movie. I liked how they did kind of like a homage to the original going into part two.
00:45:10
Speaker
where it takes place right the same night. Yeah. Yes. So it's Jamie Lee Curtis. It's ridiculous that she's still in this, but, um, you know, her on her way to the hospital from the injuries that she received at the end of the last movie. And in the end of the last movie, they blew Michael Myers up, they trap him and they blow him up.
00:45:36
Speaker
which is exactly what they did to him at the end of i believe this well they set the house on fire and they trapped him in the basement but that's what they do at the end of i believe it's the second movie i think he they're in like in the same asylum and they like trap and they cut like the gas hose like
00:45:56
Speaker
They flood the room like natural gas and she blows them up so it was like, you know how much they like the first two movies, and they did it in a similar fashion, where it takes place right where the last one.
00:46:11
Speaker
And yeah, I like that it took place in the same night. So I understood why Jamie Lee Curtis wasn't like in it that much. She didn't have much to do because she's in the hospital recovering from injuries because it just happened. Yeah, exactly. So I mean, it played well to me. I don't know. I thought it was well done. I mean, I was just like very pleasantly surprised. Like I said, I had extremely low expectations. I really thought I was going to hate it. But like, I don't know, they blend in like a decent bit of like comedy, too.
00:46:40
Speaker
and i don't know like mike john a little john yeah mike yeah but dude the kills were i mean how
00:46:52
Speaker
The kills were brutal. Like they would bring in like some comedy relief. But then like Michael Myers would come in and it was like extremely real. Like that comedy was quickly taken over by like extreme horror. Like he really killed people in extremely brutal ways. I think like much more brutal than I've seen in the past. Like Michael Myers was going like Jason Voorhees on people. Yeah.
00:47:19
Speaker
You know what I mean? And the one guy, I'm not exactly sure why this happened, but it's when he breaks into the house and he kills the, it's a white guy and he's married to a black woman and he like crashes into their house. I don't know if they were supposed to be somebody from like the original movie, but he like comes into their house for seemingly no reason.
00:47:49
Speaker
And he kills the one guy really fucking brutally bad where he's like on the ground. He's like fucking shoving glass into his neck. Yeah. Then when he kills the woman, he just keeps putting knives in her.
00:48:05
Speaker
No, no, that's the man. What he does is the woman is like really distraught and she's trying to get, this is the, um, the older black woman who was like a nanny to one of the kids that they interview afterwards saying like, Oh, she was my favorite nanny. I have no idea why somebody would do this to her.
00:48:22
Speaker
Well, she's trying to get out of the house and she's fumbling with the locked doors. You know what I mean? She just freaks out. Well, Mike Myers, instead of going to the the he's in the kitchen where there's a plentiful supply of knives. Instead, he goes to exactly what I have above my sink. There's a fluorescent light bulb and he takes the fluorescent light stick out of it. Oh, yeah. On the counter and shoves it into her neck.
00:48:49
Speaker
Yeah, like no, like it's right next to a whole bunch of knives and he does this. And so like they made these like really outrageous, elaborate kills. And then after he, you know, it's definitely a racist style, like you said. And so when she's on the ground bleeding out, he then picks up the other guy who is in the process of also bleeding out.
00:49:13
Speaker
He throws him on the countertop of the kitchen and stabs him and kills him and then keeps stabbing him and killing him like he keeps pulling another knife.
00:49:23
Speaker
And another knife and another knife and going into him. Someone had suggested that he was a character from the first couple of movies, and that's why Mike Myers went and got him and did him so violently. But I don't I wasn't able to verify that. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I know there was like about that. I don't know the story that well from the first one where I know they had
00:49:52
Speaker
the none who like witnessed somebody get killed because I think they showed kind of like the flashbacks when they would show the character that Anthony Michael Hall was Tommy Doyle all grown up. I think I think one of the other babysitters or somebody else that had witnessed something was there too, which is what I'm saying. I don't know if that guy was supposed to be one of those people all grown up because Michael Myers seemed to have
00:50:19
Speaker
serious beef with this guy. Yeah. Like instead of going right to his house where he usually sets up his base of operations for future killing, he decided to like just stop off at like a neighboring. I think he was just kind of making his way to his house and was like, I see how many people kill him my way. He saw them in there. He's like, what am I doing? You know what? I mean, I'm right down the street from my crib. I'm just going to go in here and kill people. At least people real quick. Yeah.
00:50:49
Speaker
I mean, like the whole, the whole plot of like him, like, Oh, he just wants to go home so we can stare out the window because he's really staring at the reflection and they're looking into his soul and stuff like that. That was real dumb. Like.
00:51:04
Speaker
No, I liked it better when it was like when they were related because then it was like a purpose. He was like, I need to go like kill my other fucking sister. So I kind of, even though like the original movie, they're not related, but the second one, they made him related and then they unrelated them again in these reboots. I kind of wish they kind of went back to them being related because like it's way better than him just going home to stare out that window.
00:51:28
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. Well, I don't know. But I mean, the Gore was really good in this one. You know that I mean, it earned its subtitle Halloween kill. So I got to get that like.
00:51:41
Speaker
You know, there were really brutal kills and, um, yeah, like I said, I was pleasantly surprised. Um, if you know, you're someone like me and you just assume that it's going to suck.
'Last Night in Soho': A Cinematic Triumph
00:51:53
Speaker
It does sort of suck, but like it sucks in like a really entertaining way. I would definitely check out. Yeah. And it was free. I think it's still free on peacock. So like you just watch it on there. Um, was it peacock? I thought it was HBO man. No, it's not that one's on that one's on peacock. Yeah.
00:52:11
Speaker
Yeah, no, definitely worth checking out. I would say this was probably the best Halloween in recent years. I would say that this is probably one of the best Halloween's I've seen since like, shit, I can't remember. I liked Rob Zombie's first remake.
00:52:27
Speaker
Not the sequel, but the first one. Yeah, I guess I wasn't really counting the Rob Zombie movies, and I should. Yeah, I would say since Rob Zombie's first remake, I think this is the best Halloween since that, when they tried to do a bit of a backstory in the Rob Zombie, try to kind of reinvent Michael Myers and stuff like that.
00:52:47
Speaker
I enjoyed it and yeah I enjoyed this one too. The other part I didn't like was when they're all going the evil dice tonight but like they all saw that what he looked like on tv like they had a broadcast about him escape and they saw what he looked like and then they still chased that down that dude who's like like three feet shorter than he is with long hair and clearly like out of his mind. And he looked scared shitless. Is scared shitless yeah like yeah
00:53:16
Speaker
They're like, and they're like, people are yelling like, yo, that's not fucking him. That's not him. People were like, ah, we don't fucking care. Evil die so we're killing this dude. Cause he's like, you were all in the same place. You saw the fucking footage. You know what he looks like. They're like, oh, he's been terrorizing this town for 40 years. It's like, no, he terrorized the town for one night, 40 years ago.
00:53:39
Speaker
Yeah, I like that. That didn't make a hole. And the security at the hospital was pretty much like, yeah, we're going on the full on lynch mode. Like, you know, tell this man who seems to be totally terrified and he looks nothing like or acts anything like Michael Myers has ever been known to do. Yeah. And the guy commits suicide because he's so scared.
00:54:04
Speaker
Yeah, like they were. It was like they were almost trying to tell a point about how, like, you know, how mobs are are bad, a fucking idea. You know, I mean, like going after the wrong, you know, wrong person and stuff. They were almost trying to like tell you think they were trying to make like associate. They were trying to make a point. Yeah, absolutely. But I think they just kind of failed at that. So well, whatever. Like I said, like the movie, but definitely definitely think it's worth a watch. Go for the kills. Exactly.
00:54:34
Speaker
Go free kills. If you miss those classic Jason kills, you'll get it here. And I am somebody. Yeah, it gave me what I was looking for. So anyway, moving on. Final movie last night in Soho.
00:54:47
Speaker
Last Night Soho, yes, the new Edgar Wright film. You had pushed me very hard into watching this movie. You told me that if I was only going to see one horror movie in the next month, that it should be Last Night in Soho. Yes.
00:55:06
Speaker
I'm just going to start off and just say like what I didn't like about the movie first. And the one thing I want you to tell the like what the story was. I'm going to that. That's what I didn't like. And that's where I was going. I didn't really like the story. I thought the story was just very simple.
00:55:27
Speaker
Um, it was just like, you know, a murder mystery with a twist at the end. And I don't want to spoil a twist for anyone. So let's try to stay away from that. Well, I thought this podcast, we really don't care about. We expect that people have already seen it or whatever. But anyway, the one thing I did not like about last night in Soho was that the story was just very simple.
00:55:51
Speaker
It was a murder mystery. There was a twist at the end. It wasn't anything special. I'm not saying that the writing wasn't good because the character development and the performances, that was great. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that it was badly written.
00:56:09
Speaker
It's just like the story in general was very lackluster. It was very average. It was pretty mediocre of a story. But the way he took the story and worked it into like this beautiful cinematography with like an interesting way of like telling it. That's something different. I thought he did a really interesting way of telling a simple story, which I thought was really great. And he's kind of really good at that.
00:56:36
Speaker
That's what I was going to go into. I'm just saying like the story plane, just looking at after and I was like, oh, well, you know, that wasn't, you know, really anything. But that was pretty much the only thing I didn't like about it. Otherwise, I thought the performances were great. I thought the telling of the story, the differences in time, the flashbacks and the way they occurred.
00:57:03
Speaker
There was, I thought there was some very like, and especially the use of sound and color when she's in her apartment in SoHo, there was something that screamed out Dario Argento and Stanley Kubrick to me. Absolutely. Like, like the use of sound and color in that room just really screamed out Argento to me. And that was just something I took from it. And then, um,
00:57:30
Speaker
the club scenes and stuff like that. And her reflection in the mirror sort of reminded me of like the ballroom from The Shining. You know what I mean? And like a lot of like the visuals and like the ghostly images and stuff like that remind me of Shelly Duvall.
00:57:51
Speaker
At the end of the shining like trying to run away from all this stuff on you want to like you know, take and give some input because I thought that was very impressive.
00:58:01
Speaker
Yeah, I thought it was absolutely fantastic. His use of working the music into the movie, so it felt like a part of it. I was listening to a bunch, you gotta listen to some interviews with him that he's done, especially the Deep Dive ones. He did one with Mick Harris recently on his podcast, and he did one on Vanity Fair with some random dude, and it was him and Tarantino.
00:58:29
Speaker
and it was worth listening just to hear them talk about fucking movies. It's so fantastic. If you've ever listened to Tarantino talk about movies, he has that memory that he can just go into and he remembers fucking everything he's ever seen.
00:58:44
Speaker
and go into real detail about certain things. And Eggert Wright's kind of the same way. They've both seen a shit ton of movies and they were recommending stuff to each other. It was so fascinating to listen to. Where would you see this interview? What was this on?
00:59:04
Speaker
I think it was, I'll have to send you the link. I think it was on a Vanity Fair. That was that interview. It was a Vanity Fair like live interview with Tarantino. It was like a podcast. I forget who was hosting it, but as soon as I saw them two were on it, I was like, I have to listen to it. It's like two hours of them.
00:59:25
Speaker
Ranton, I think like Tarantino's in like Dubai, so he's on like a video call, you know, so like it sounds a little off. Yeah, maybe if you can find the link or something like that, you can put it up on Facebook or something like that. Yeah, I definitely would like to check that out. You gotta get used to like the way it sounds, because it's not a very clear sound, and like Tarantino sounds really loud, while it sounds like he's in a bathroom, you know what I mean? Like the audio's like,
00:59:51
Speaker
extremely loud it's not just him being loud you know oh gotcha yeah but anyway i would assume that
00:59:58
Speaker
Yeah, the way he works sound and music into his movies has always been fantastic, especially the way he did Baby Driver. Did you feel the Argento Kubrick vibe that I'm talking about? Absolutely, especially I felt like the Suspiria with the mirror stuff. Yes. It took me a minute to realize what they were doing. It was like, OK, she can feel the past.
01:00:26
Speaker
in a way, and that's how they work in the flashback. It's not actually a flashback. She's not actually there, but she can feel and see everything going on in a way. Yeah, she's hypersensitive. I don't think it's what they call it psychic, but it's what they say certain people on the spectrum.
01:00:51
Speaker
I don't know if you call it like a clairvoyant or whatnot, but like when they're in certain places, and this is like the Overlook Hotel where something terrible has happened, she kind of- She kind of had the shine. Yeah, she kind of had the shine. She's got the shine, exactly. She's got the shine and she shined. Yeah, because at first you're kind of like, okay, she can just kind of see that she's not really like,
01:01:17
Speaker
interacting with it because you're not sure if it's like time travel or at first you're like wait what's going on and then like when she gets like kissed and brings back that hickey you're like wait so did she go back and then you like by the end of the video you're like okay she can she's just and they kind of touch on the beginning but it's kind of like a uh just a little like uh if you're not really paying attention or it's just like so early in the movie that you might not catch it
01:01:43
Speaker
But when people have died in that room or something, that's when she can really feel.
01:01:50
Speaker
like their presence in the past and everywhere she goes. And like, yeah, it was really, I thought it was really fascinating. I didn't see the, uh, she might be mentally ill and that everything was just in her head. And at the end of the movie, you were going to find out that, um, all these things that were happening to her were simply like illusions that she had. Yeah. I mean, they kind of worry illusions. But
01:02:19
Speaker
they were actually real thing but it's actually something that happened yeah that had happened yeah like in reality these things had happened she wasn't just dreaming them up now but this was actually something that took place but from like an outside perspective that sounds insane you know if i told you that you would think like yo man like have you been taking your medication
01:02:43
Speaker
Yeah. You know what I mean? And it was something that she felt she couldn't talk about with other people because they would think she's crazy. Yeah, and her family. She does at one point. She had a history of mental illness in her family. Her mother committed suicide. Because I think she had the, I think her mother actually had like the same ability or whatever. That's, that's why. In the beginning of the movie, you can see that she also sees her mother. So that was like, kind of like, um,
01:03:09
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you know, a preview to things to come. So, but you don't know early on in the movie, like, is she just simply mentally ill or, you know, what the deal is with her? One thing I will say, and this was really ridiculous to me, not the story, is the guy she starts kind of like dating and hooking up with the young black men.
01:03:35
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she is regardless of whether or not like you know he just met her and she appears to be violently mentally unstable and he seems to like I don't know if he was just really horny and really into this girl and I was like you know you're like one of the most beautiful girls I've ever seen
01:03:58
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I don't care if you're crazy maybe he's like I can help her maybe he felt like he could save you know the thing is is in real life if I cared about this girl and I met her I would have called the police and said you know a girl who I'm in class with and she actually goes to the police at one point too and she's
01:04:19
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clearly mentally ill to the police. Like there's not, I've said things like that in my life when I was having a hard time and I was in like a disassociated state. Those people said, you know, before you leave, Brandon, you need to go to the hospital. They need to look at you. You're obviously not thinking clearly. You're either under the influence of substances. They would have not left her leave that police station.
01:04:48
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When she's trying to say that she sees ghosts and stuff, they would have, they would have either asked her to voluntarily get checked out by a doctor, they would not have just let her walk out and that guy who she was seeing, he just enact realistic because he would have
01:05:07
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either informed the faculty at the college and said like, Hey, you know, my friend, she is just not right in the head, you know, something needs, she tried to murder a girl with a pair of scissors in the library.
01:05:23
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in public that her bad people saw everyone saw yeah it was not for him she would have driven a pair of scissors into another girl's face yeah that girl starts screaming for security somehow she just runs out of the library and there's no consequences yeah there's no consequences later on yeah
01:05:46
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There were elements, like I said, the story was very lackluster to me. The telling of the story was actually even more impressive. And the mystery. Yeah, I had no idea where it was going. I thought the mystery was really good. You kind of had an idea of what was happening and then by the end of it, you're like, oh shit, I did not see that coming.
01:06:11
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Yeah, well, I knew there was something wrong with the old woman, too, because like, even then, like it what she said to the old woman, if the old woman had nothing to do with any of this, the old woman would have thought the same way, like, wow, my, my border that I have, my, my, you know, the girl who I have, you know, that's living in my apartment is mentally unstable. Yeah, absolutely crazy. You know, I mean, like,
01:06:41
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She is maybe overwhelmed or something like that. I'm going to try contact her family or, you know, it just didn't make. So I was wondering what was going on there. And then at the end, when you find out, you know, I want to spoil it. But it's I mean, it's been out for a reason. Yeah. Yeah.
01:07:03
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But yeah, it was just really well done. I really liked it. I would say out of the films that we've talked about, it was by far my favorite. I might be my favorite this year so far. Yeah, I was going to say that. Yeah, I will say in terms of all the horror movies that have come out like since the pandemic. And I've said repeatedly on this podcast, I think that there's been a real lack of quality horror, especially horror writing and direction.
01:07:32
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Yeah. This one was it was it was easily my favorite horror movie of 2021. Easily my favorite. Absolutely. I really liked the the one that the black kid was trying to relate to her from like she was moving from like a you know far out and like the countryside of like England all the way down to London to go to like fashion school and he was trying to relate and he was like oh I know how it is coming from like
01:07:59
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you know, way out of because they're in like North London and.
01:08:03
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They're like, oh, coming from like way out of the city and like, you know, having to travel up here. And she's like, Hey, where are you from? He's like, Oh, South London. Yeah. And then with like later on, he's like, Oh, I'll drive you there. And she was like, you have a car? And he was like, Yeah, how else do you think I'd get from South London? I thought that was fucking hilarious because he's like, it's right there. He's like, you could hop on the train. It's not that big of a deal. Like,
01:08:30
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He may sound like he was coming from like the Essex somewhere like that. From like Lee or a London agent, like Reading or Duke Castle. Way up in Cardiff for some reason. Like, yeah. Like, yeah, you know, I know it's like being in like a small town like out in like rural England or something like that. Like, like, yeah, like he was like even coming from like
01:08:53
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Manchester like you would need a car but like you could still take the train from there and like she was coming from fucking like Newcastle or something shit like that like all the way fucking up out of the way.
01:09:05
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yeah that there's a little that was yeah they threw in a little bit of comedy that i don't think that well i mean people that don't like uh know the uh geographical location might have been a little confused by but like i got it yeah i mean even just say north london south london you know that's like still part of the same city like it's not really yeah it's a large city but like yeah it's still right there it's not like coming from a long distance so i still feel like you can get like the regional uh
01:09:35
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you know, joke in there. But yeah, I thought it was hilarious. I think there needs to be an honorable mention to the actor that played the one Coley character's pimp, the violent pimp, that people will know this actor. He plays Prince Philip, I believe, on the Netflix show The Crown. Oh, Matt Smith. He was Doctor Who. Yeah.
01:10:05
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Yeah, I thought he delivered a great performance. You know, I mean, that's like a supporting lead. Like, I thought he was great in that too. Like, I love him in the crown. And, you know, yeah, he
01:10:20
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I thought he was a great casting decision there. This is the first movie I've seen him in outside of Doctor Who and I didn't like his doctor as much because he came right after David Tennant and he David Tennant is one of my favorite doctors so I couldn't really I never saw Doctor Who so I mean I
01:10:37
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I don't know, I just recognized him for the crown because he's won like a lot of awards for his performance in that and I thought he was great in it. I mean I pretty much like, I liked all the lead cast in it. Anya Taylor-Joy is fantastic.
01:10:56
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She's the one from Queen's Gambit, right? Yes, yes. And Peaky Blinders, and she's actually been in the glory of others. Yeah, she's like really taken off in like a big way, like up until like a few years ago, she was nobody. I first saw her in the Peaky Blinders, and now I see her in like everything. Yeah, she was in New Mutants, which was terrible. Yeah, she's actually an interesting story because she was like born in Florida,
01:11:24
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And, but I was like, how the fuck does this girl that was like born and grew up in Miami have like an English accent, but apparently like like a Russian sounding name kind of like, I guess she was like born in the US and she was born in Florida, but then she spent like most of her life in England. And, you know, she went from speaking American, speaking British.
01:11:48
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But, uh, yeah. And I also liked the, I'd never seen, uh, Thomas and Mackenzie. That's the first time I've seen her in anything. Yeah, that's the first thing I looked up to see like what she had done in the past. And well, first off, she's only like 23, 24 years old. And so is, uh, the, uh,
01:12:06
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We were just referencing. These are, these are young kids, you know, she was a Jojo rabbit. That's right. She was the, the Jew hiding in the closet that eight that a little kid. Yeah, she was great in that. That was the only thing of note that I could find. And then I found some other movie that she was in but like choose.
01:12:27
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It was like her first, she was only like 19 years. She's like 23, 24. So I think she's probably got a great career have her. I didn't recognize her till I just, till I just looked. Yeah, I had that's the only thing I had recognized her from and I didn't know that it was her until I walked on her IMDB page.
01:12:52
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Yeah. Yeah. That's right. I didn't. Yeah, I didn't. I wouldn't have recognized her from Jojo Rabbit. I love that movie, Jojo Rabbit. So funny. Yeah. Yeah, it has moments for me. But yeah, I mean, that's that's pretty much it. So that I was I was I was happy with the last couple of weeks in horror.
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01:13:11
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I saw three very solid movies. And that gives me some hope that the industry is recovering.
01:13:19
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And I'm hoping for a very, very productive 2022. Yeah, I think the only the last since Resident Evil just came out this past week, I think the last horror movie come out this year is Guillermo del Toro's Nightmare Alley, which looks fantastic. I keep seeing trailers for that. Yeah, I got to tell you, I do not have like high hopes for the newest Resident Evil movie, like I don't either. Yeah.
01:13:46
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I was hoping that that franchise was dead. Now, then it's a reboot movie. Obviously, we're not really going to get into it. But yeah, it is a reboot. It doesn't have Mila or not Mila Kumis. What's Mila Mila Jovovich? Yeah, it's a reboot. It's there. It's a they're starting over from scratch. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I still will talk about it all. But yeah, we'll we'll get into that.
01:14:14
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Hey, maybe it'll be like Halloween and there'll be like a good reboot, you know. Yeah, I'm not expecting it to be great. I've heard it's just fine. I hear it's really Resident Evil filled. So like, yeah, I'm not excited to see it. Like I don't think it's going to be great, but like I still want to see. Hopefully it's a little bit closer to the games.
01:14:35
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Well, I just I just bought Resident Evil 8. It was on sale for 30 bucks and it has excellent reviews. So maybe next week when we discussed Resident Evil, we could also talk a little bit about some of the horror video or the Resident Evil games that we could talk about the Ghostbusters game and the Resident Evil game.
01:14:57
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shit the first ghostbuster game i ever played was in like the 1980s for the early mac computers it was a ghostbuster game like it came out bro like 1985 or something like that i thought there was one for like nintendo or sega or something like that but i don't really remember this game was on the old
01:15:17
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floppy disks that actually flopped. Yeah, this was I was only like five, five years old, five or six years old. I remember thinking it was like the shit back then. But you know,
01:15:34
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you'll look at now and saw a bunch of stick figures like Oregon Trail or something like that. Yeah it's not even like Doom style like first uh yeah did like 3D stuff or Wolfenstein I think. That's white years ahead of what I'm talking about. That's night and day but uh anyway so that's about it um it was good it was good seeing you buddy I'm glad that you had fun when you were out here and uh
01:16:00
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I'm sorry about your one bogus on that you went on, but like everything else sounds like it's all up doc. So yeah, everything else was good. Yeah, it was great talking to you again. Great doing the cast again after a long hiatus. Hopefully do at least one more. This year, we'll do, hopefully we can do Ghostbusters and
01:16:23
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and Resident Evil and then then January we'll do a nightmare alley and probably our best of a list we still haven't done our alien episode yeah you know it kind of got pushed back like a buddy of ours is getting married and stuff like that if you want to do it with us and um yeah i mean everybody's got like a very busy schedule around the holidays i mean
01:16:45
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I feel like the UFO phenomena is not going anywhere. There keeps being like more and more. There was actually a sighting down here in the pines the other day. It was on like a local radio station. So I feel like that that topic is not going anywhere anytime soon. So like, you know, I mean, we will get to it. And for now, it's a positive thing that there's like quality horror coming out. So
01:17:10
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you know lots more to come but anyway. Nice to watch uh the also the uh i did want to mention real quick i thought the chucky series has been really good the 90 minute finale was on tonight and then december 1st the whole all of it's going to be on peacock and i've really enjoyed uh what i've seen so far it's like got the original
01:17:28
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director back the original voice cast, Jennifer Tilly's returns, got Andy back from the original. He's got his babysitter from the second one returns. I've been really enjoying everything about it. There's some great kills in it. Yeah, well, that's much more to talk about, much more to come. Yeah, I think you should check that out as well, especially if you like Chucky at all. I do like Chucky.
01:17:51
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yeah this is this picks up right after call chucky so it ignores that reboot that they did so picks up after college. I can that reboot is like that haunt that you went on it's bothering me so when you're saying chucky right now, I just want to get off the subject because. So bad so anyway you'll like the new show yeah.
01:18:11
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Yeah, thanks for tuning in. And yeah, we'll, you know, probably be talking about something soon the next couple of weeks, Ghostbusters Resident Evil and see what else is going on at that time. So anyway, sounds good. Good. So everybody be safe and, you know, rock on. Keep on trucking. Peace.