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Meghan Markle, Part 4
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On today's episode, we talk continue discussing what we really thing happened during Meghan's mysterious trip to Toronto.
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Introduction to the Podcast and Hosts
00:00:00
Speaker
Welcome to Fixate Today, Gone Tomorrow. I am Joy and here with my niece Nikki. We are two neurodivergent ladies. Nikki has ADHD and I have autism. And today we are letting our hyper-fixations fly. Today we're fixating on Meghan Markle. You might notice a slight difference today. Usually Nikki does our intro, but today I'm filling in.
00:00:27
Speaker
Today's episode is actually a true continuation from last week. We had recorded for so long that we had to split it into two episodes. Hence, you may notice we will be jumping right back in.
Life Changes: Meghan and Harry's Move to Frogmore Cottage
00:00:41
Speaker
I think where we left off in the timeline, ah we were at 2019 with Meghan and Harry deciding to move out of Kensington Palace and into Frogmore Cottage, which is about 30 minutes outside of London.
00:01:08
Speaker
yeah and So November 18th, Megan and Harry stepped out with Kate and Prince William at the Royal Foundation dinner. um So they did go out together, but they were never pictured together. Yeah. Okay, so now let's go back to something we know about now. We know about a big fight between Harry and... Yes. That was released in Harry's book, Spare.
00:01:33
Speaker
I think it could have been around this time that William found out or William was told about this plan.
Royal Family Tensions: Harry and William's Dispute
00:01:45
Speaker
Okay like the IVF.
00:01:46
Speaker
Yeah, that's something in about maybe even like, oh, here, you know, we're gonna try to have the baby early and William freaked out knowing that like something like that to bring down the crown. It's like, you know, a constitutional matter. Well, and it's also the thing of not only like,
00:02:07
Speaker
Not only the brother part of it, but if we're still talking, you know, line of succession, William is high up in that line and he may have felt slighted being circumvented. I think that's, I think that's a huge part of it. Yeah. And, and Harry may not have felt the need to go to William about that. Like yeah he's like, why do I have to go ask permission from my brother? I can, you know, yeah.
00:02:37
Speaker
Yeah. So yeah I don't know. That's why I say like, I'm not sure if then, you know, that's when like he proactively went to William and kind of was like, Oh, let me tell you what's going on. Or if somehow it came out. And yeah, I mean, William has his future King. He can't like, he knows like, this is a really big deal. And also, see, this is where I do think that things went wrong. I think things went very wrong when they tried to hide it.
00:03:07
Speaker
and for some period of time. I think had they, and we'll talk about this more later, but had it been more up had they been more upfront and and you know brought the the matter to the attention of the world, I think there's been a much better outcome. Yeah. So I think this is a point where one lie or one cover up can spiral into so much.
00:03:36
Speaker
Right. That probably wasn't fully necessary, um you know especially in the end. So I kind of have to look back, but i I kind of feel like this is when William found out. And i kind you know they talk about the fight being that he wasn't supportive of Meghan. And I'm starting to think that that word supportive kind of means a little bit supportive of this situation. Right.
00:04:06
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I'm not making judgment. I mean, I think it was a missed opportunity to show progress in in the royal family. but and but But nonetheless, once a lie was started, how do you how do you move past that? So, I mean, I think it's pretty, like at that point, it was pretty clear that it was the brothers. i mean some I mean, some said that, you know, that was when Megan and and Kate you know, started not, or, you know, things got tense with that. Probably did, you know, like, right. It probably became tense with everyone. Yeah. It's the thing of like, you can't, when you're the wife, you're the in-law. Yeah. You got to side with, ah you know, unless the husband's doing something horribly egregious, of course, but it just like automatically you're, you're lumped with your spouse. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, especially when your spouse is going to be the future king. I don't know.
00:05:05
Speaker
and Yeah. And, and I think it was a bit of a distraction to, I think to talk about it being Kate and. Oh, for sure. It's much more, it's less heartbreaking and it's more salacious to, to have it be the wives. Yep. It's a better story, right? Better story to tell.
Harry's Past and Its Influence on Family Dynamics
00:05:27
Speaker
No, I mean.
00:05:29
Speaker
There could be, obviously, I think there's been a truth to it, and and maybe I'm going too far and saying maybe there was a bit of envy that okay could have her own children. If this is true, that Megan or devil's advocate is that the perception? And that's not a reality. It's one of the possibilities that could have happened. And it's one of those things that this is like, this is one of the places we disagree is like, I have, I think a lot of the things that had, I almost said Hagen and Mary that
00:06:14
Speaker
Meghan and Harry did were out of Harry's childhood trauma response. yeah And I think if he had the perception that that Kate would feel that way or that William and Kate would feel that way, that's the reality for him. And so he's going to be proactive about it. I think so much of this is that.
00:06:40
Speaker
I mean, you yeah he was raised to anticipate how somebody
Rumors and Family Matters: Meghan's Personal Stories
00:06:45
Speaker
was going to react to something he did or said and so he started almost behaving like thinking he was two steps ahead of people and anticipating reactions instead of having conversations. Like like anticipating the worst. Right.
00:07:03
Speaker
i mean ah Yeah, this is a point where we, I mean, I think that that is it to some degree. I i also think when it comes to having kids, you get really defensive of your kids. And this was also, okay, look and and side point, first of all, like, ah other than me, the um the ah morning sentence, I mean, Kate was pretty good at having babies. she Like, yeah, she looked good. She like got right back into shape. um
00:07:35
Speaker
I mean, I think the world would be pretty understood of that. And then this is just another complete flashback or um side note. But do you remember also there was, you know, we had Megan's family, Tom, is it Tom Jr?
00:07:55
Speaker
And there was that rumblings about how she had a hysterectomy. I don't remember that. Okay. It was pretty much like a side story because I think they were, I mean, they were being like a little bit wacky and people weren't really. No one was buying it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But they did say, I mean, there was somewhere in that said that she had a hysterectomy. Now my thought is that they weren't the most, um,
00:08:23
Speaker
intelligent people and I mean because I don't think she had an hysterectomy because I think she carried the baby. I really do. um But maybe something happened when they're ovaries. Well I have insane, well I i had a hysterectomy but before then I have a gri like really detailed surgical history from endometriosis and I lost an ovary when I was only 20.
00:08:46
Speaker
So I can, I can see how people may be misunderstood. Yeah. I mean, now, yeah, I think hysterectomy is something we talk about here about losing it ovaries. Not quite as, you know, I mean, I think that that could have something to do with it. Um, if we're talking don't reg and I think it that also could be part of the reason she wanted to separate from her family. She wanted to cut ties because they did know this about her. Okay.
00:09:17
Speaker
Maybe, maybe, I mean, total speculation here, but, um, just maybe.
Oprah Interview: Lack of Royal Protection for Meghan
00:09:23
Speaker
Um, I will say, so if we have a little quote from the Oprah Winfrey interview, and we said that after we had gotten back from the Australia tour, we talked about things and things really started to turn. When I knew we weren't being protected.
00:09:43
Speaker
She told talk show host over Winfrey in the bombshell interview. And again, that I think that word protected had a lot to do with but this this case and maybe feeling like they should, the palace should help them in hiding this or, I don't know. I also, I mean, this is also, they remember they started like,
00:10:11
Speaker
Maybe it was a little bit later, but they like started doing a lot more with the Queen and Charles and William and little George, like really focusing on the four of them. Yeah. I mean, I can't even imagine what it's like when one kid is going to be King Monday. I know. I can't imagine it within just three kids and um Kate and William, you know, much less than moving on to, you know, outside of that. You know, I remember when all three of their kids were born and hoping that Harry wasn't like, okay, I'm down lower, like, and I don't
00:10:57
Speaker
I think you have to, being raised that way, tie your worth to your place in that line of succession to some extent. hundred but you know And just every baby, but he seems like a great uncle, but it also has to come with that thing of like, you're even lower now.
00:11:19
Speaker
Yeah, it's this, I would guess this, a mixed feeling. I mean, yeah, I'm sure you're extremely happy for your brother and, ah you know, obviously you love your nieces and nephews and maybe on a family level, you know, it's like, there's two levels to everything, like there's the family level and then there's like the royal level, which I think it's hard to navigate that whole thing. Yeah. I mean, and honestly, like at this point, like Harry's not even really the spare anymore.
00:11:47
Speaker
Which, yeah, I think it was really hard. And I think it's really, then I also think it's hard to like come out and say that because here these little kids are coming. yeah So we're gonna get a little bit more into royal patents and some other things with the royals, but also this is a time where um the Queen did change, I'm gonna call them the rules, that's not the right word. arms So that Charlotte and Louis were called Prince. They got the title. Normally the only the eldest son of the Prince of Wales received the title.
00:12:28
Speaker
Okay. Okay. Plus they also, there's a, there was a big change, which was that, uh, you know, uh, I can't say it. Premogenic females were in the line of succession, you know, even it didn't ah skip over them for the brothers. So that was a big change then, but there was also a little change that said like, basically they could use those titles. And there was, there was a similar one, um, with Beatrice and Eugenie. Um, they both do carry the title of.
00:12:58
Speaker
princess, but they actually shouldn't. I mean, not shouldn't, but I mean, they're not necessarily entitled to that. And and the queen made an exception. Right, right. Well, it's the same with um kind of Camilla now too. The queen made an exception for her to be queen now that Charles is king.
00:13:20
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, so there's exceptions and, and again, ah we'll we'll get into it a little bit more because there's, there's like two levels. Like there's one, one is like, basically you need parliament to change the constitution for big stuff. And then there's this other like letters patent where like kind of the queen, kind of like queen can make a little change without going to parliament. And and that's what these things fall under. And ah while we're talking about that, I think that's where a lot of pain came in.
00:13:50
Speaker
Yeah. I think Harry and Meghan expected a change like that. Yeah. That this was an opportunity where it could have been acknowledged. And so and yeah there was actually parliamentary discussion at some point about this. But we'll go back to that anyways. All right. Let's go back to to our current time frame.
Public Perception: Meghan's Letter to Her Father
00:14:15
Speaker
Okay. So basically, yeah, it was said that that this is when everything got bad. The world, even you know, the world started talking about the fake bomb. I mean, everything started getting kind of negative around, um, around them. Yeah. Okay. So something else interesting. When Megan was in Toronto, if we're assuming she was, that's when the letter got written to her father. Okay. Yeah. Let's talk about this.
00:14:41
Speaker
they ah They talked about it being written in August, but actually one was act and one of the copies was dated August 22nd. So she would have written it while she was in Toronto, presumably while she was with Jessica Moore. So when they say, and again, I think this is one of those, depends on the words you use,
00:15:06
Speaker
they never shared it with her or, well, yeah, because it was probably written on her computer. right I mean, she was probably there. yeah yeah um And they there is a lot of talk about um texting back and forth at that time with an off guy. But I don't know if it was their press secretary or their secretary or something. um and And yeah, so there was a lot of talk about yeah going back and forth. And this is a time like you know basically where we needed plausible deniability. But a lot was about how we
00:15:46
Speaker
kind of expect this to get leaked. Okay. So we are conscientious of what the wording was used and that came out in the um the lawsuit later in in it and the story when they sued the the newspaper. But yeah, a lot of talk about how we expect this to get leaked, which I find really interesting. Okay. Because I think there was a lot of stuff that was done as a as distraction. Right. And quite obviously, I think she expected that letter to be leaked by her father right away. Yeah, yeah. ah He did it for a while. Yeah. And so then they had that weird story and people magazine from her five friends talking about Oh, I remember that. I remember that great person. She was a letter. Right. And that's where they're like, well, she never shared the love letter with them.
00:16:46
Speaker
Like, wait, well then how would they have had it? And I think how they would have had it was that it was written at Jessica Moroni's house while she was there. Yeah. So I think, yeah, I think it was a is distraction. I think it was another distraction. I didn't, you know, um, nobody, they, I mean, it's, which is funny because, you know, it's that whole thing where.
00:17:11
Speaker
you project, I guess you say somebody else is making up stories or whatever, doing these things for distractions, but like, you are, you know, um we hear that a lot with, yeah, future President Trump, you know, like that the things he's accusing others of are exactly what they were doing. So. um Right.
00:17:35
Speaker
Anyway, so we, that's one thing I think was very interesting about the timing.
Media Strategy: Meghan's Public Image Control
00:17:40
Speaker
Yeah. And if you look at August 22nd specifically. Yeah. Um, yeah. So that's when they wrote, um, her inner circle. I mean, it was just weird anyways, like these five ladies, but this is irrelevant, but it was weird. Like her inner circle, like where these five people from all different aspects of her life, you know, it wasn't like right i yeah I thought that was even weird back then. um so And yeah, this is when a lawyer said like, the truth is that the author did not know that such an interview had been given, or more importantly, that any reference would be made to the letter. So yeah.
00:18:25
Speaker
But I think she was there. And I think that was, again, word choice. So yeah, and then they're saying that. So in August was the real, I mean, there were several breakdowns with their father, but this is one of them. right And that's why I do think, I think part of it has to do with needing to separate because she didn't want the truth to come out about this. I mean, everyone's known some, I mean, somebody who's kind of told a lie in a relationship and and sort of need to separate from the family because the family could expose it. Yeah.
00:19:03
Speaker
We've even dealt with that in our family. So they wrote it with public consumption in mind. And there was public interest in correcting assertions, but it wasn't made until like 2019. But twenty nineteen I do. I think he was trying. I think they expected him to read it earlier um and wanted that. So um yeah. so basically the people article was referred to referred to the letter Meghan had written to her father and it was given as holy misleading gloss so um town and country yeah the duchess wanted to make sure that if the letter became public it would assist with her setting out her perspective on the problems with her father's behavior
00:19:54
Speaker
in a message on the 24th of August, she said she felt fantastic after writing it. Yeah. So there we are. Okay. Okay. Now a little, I don't think this is really what happened, but let's throw this out there because it's fun. Okay. So yeah, and this is like, let's go. This has taken us back to the honeymoon. So I don't know if you remember, but like right after the wedding, um, well, they went on a honeymoon and they kept the location very secret, which I mean, I think is totally, totally understandable. Oh yeah. Yeah, absolutely. But of course there was a lot of speculation. And, um, like ABC news it said, I believe they're spending some time in Africa, possibly then Bibia and potentially potential potentially.
00:20:51
Speaker
taking another trip after that as part of the honeymoon. I mean, Vogue talked about them coming back from their top secret honeymoon. um And out there, there were theories. First, there's Canada. TMZ reported that the two were headed for the Fairmont Jasper Park Lodge in Alberta, Canada. And apparently the two reported renting a luxurious 6,000 square foot Outlook cabin which the British Royals favorite King George and the Queen Mother as well as Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip stayed there. Side note, Fairmont hotels in Canada are awesome. Oh my god, so awesome. I've been able to stay because of like business trips with my husband twice
00:21:48
Speaker
They are the most wonderful. like They're so amazing. And then my my son just was up there recently and he was like, well, maybe I'll splurge on a night. I was like, and the it was like, well, over a thousand dollars. Like, oh, okay. I'm not going to splurge on this.
Speculation on Meghan and Harry's Honeymoon
00:22:04
Speaker
So I do specifically remember seeing these headlines and it was because of the Fairmont Hotel. So yeah so anyways, I, but, um,
00:22:16
Speaker
And then, you know, it makes sense. Canada is known to be a second home to Markle, who filmed suits there for several years, plus sitting on the cusp of Jasper National Park. The property is said to be absolutely stunning, which I fully believe. Absolutely.
00:22:35
Speaker
ah So then then we come back with Megan and Harry did indeed quietly slip off to their honeymoon earlier this month, but not to Canada.
00:22:48
Speaker
As some outlets reported, according to eSource, the two went to east East Africa and visited more than two countries. Um, they went on safaris later on in the sun, although recently or in spare, um, I do think Harry made reference to them going to like the Caribbean or like a beach location. Oh, okay. I don't remember that at all. Yeah. I mean, I have enough of those on spare. I just know I heard that. Okay. So this is why I think, so what about, what about
00:23:26
Speaker
If they went to Canada so that Harry could deliver his DNA. Leave a deposit? Yes. Okay. Maybe. Maybe. I could buy that. Yeah. Pit stop on the honeymoon. You're like, you're really, its there's plenty going on on the back to me. I don't know. I mean, no, granted, I do think that they would keep it secret. Yeah. I don't know.
00:23:55
Speaker
But the fact that Canada got brought up so much and not specifically like even exact location, I don't know, made me think. Yeah. Okay. Now let's take it to the next level. Okay. All right. All right. So remember when the queen said, when Harry asked for permission to marry, um, Megan, she said something along the lines of, well, I guess I have to say goes yeah yes. Yes.
00:24:26
Speaker
And there was a little bit of talk about like how Megan could have been pregnant already, which never made sense to me because she was pregnant and then they're still waiting months to get married. And like, how is this belly not going to be showing, you know, like that never really made sense to me. um but Can I say how I took that phrase? Yeah, of course. Okay. I took her saying, I guess I have to say yes, as like she recognized how much he loved Megan and was like, how can I say no to my grandson? And she was like, I don't know. They always had such a sweet relationship that she, I think she recognized a lot of the stuff he struggled with and was like, he's so happy right now. How can I say no? You're so sweet and positive. Because now we're going to get my terrible take on it.
00:25:18
Speaker
Well, because and then I was I was also gonna say, also, he's the spare. It doesn't matter as much. yeah He's got William has Kate, you can't get any more perfect spouse for the future king than Kate Middleton. So she's like, All right, spare. Yeah, Mary. I do find it really strange that he would have even put that in his book. Like, I don't know why I wouldn't have put that comment in there. Like,
00:25:45
Speaker
Well, that's why I took it that way. Oh, since he like, I don't know. Sometimes. Yeah, okay. All right, here we go. So they talk about, you know, there's been a lot of talk about him trapping Megan into marriage. Again, this pregnancy thing, it never made sense. But what if she had his DNA? Okay, like she had it somehow.
00:26:13
Speaker
Like they were like being, I mean, I don't think she like snuck it under there. But I think, um not a but you know, what if she, he's not the smartest guy in the world. What if, you know, he knew that but we're going to have to get pregnant this way and we want to get pregnant as soon as possible. And so why don't we get this set up beforehand and like, let's give it a little, get give him your sample.
00:26:43
Speaker
ah Because that's another way to trap a person. At least a person in the royal family. Do you think that's... Yeah, you're next level. i're not I'm not here for that one. And honestly, that's... a note that I ah do think that's probably too crazy. But I think it's worth thinking about.
Privacy and Choices: Meghan's Childbirth Decisions
00:27:04
Speaker
I think it would be a really good movie. True. True. And honestly, little part of me thinks he's dumb enough to have done it, and a little part of me thinks that's what the big fight with William was like, was like, oh my god, are you an idiot? Why in the world would you do that? I don't know. But it's fun to think about anyways. We'll go back to our story at hand.
00:27:32
Speaker
There was also talk about like her like using like what doctor she was using. I mean, she was very specific in that she wasn't going to use the palace doctor. But there was a lot about like which doctor would she use. um And in the end, I mean, there were speculation about a few. But in the end, she used um this doctor. It was Dr. Masa.
00:27:57
Speaker
um and And she was known for creating these progressive ways of giving birth that are more natural. I mean, so there was, you know, a good um reason for why she would have chose them. But she was also the doctor who delivered Gwyneth Paltrow, Madonna, and Kate Moss's baby. So I, and I feel like so that shows she's got some discretion. Yes. Yeah. yeah I mean, not that important, but. Well, and also like my other thought is, um, someone who does not trust doctors until they've shown, as I said, I had a a long surgical history. I, and she was, but she was almost 40 when they got married.
00:28:47
Speaker
I don't know. I can just be like, I'm 40 year old, like almost 40. I'm in my late 30s. I'd like to choose my doctor. And you know feeling already like things are so set in stone with traditions and things like that. she you know I don't think a palace doctor is gonna you know, support a lot of the more, you know, as she was looking for like a more natural and different methods. Yeah. So that would be my argument. Yeah. And I do think this particular doctor was like, I think she was a bit of a specialist in IVF and all that.
00:29:26
Speaker
Yeah. um i mean So I don't think there was i mean anything wrong with that. It's just more of a side point that I'm sure this doctor had a lot of discretion. and Oh, yeah yeah. And I really do believe there was a point at which there was a change from this idea that I'm going to have the baby at home and you know hold out. That's why I'm not going to show the baby.
00:29:53
Speaker
um And I do think somebody, Prince William, or somebody else intervened and it was like, you are not doing that. You are not doing that. So they had to like kind of, the narrative had to change a little bit. but And that's when she did have to vape in the hospital. I mean, there was some weird stuff about like how they announced it and stuff. I don't know what that was. I have no, I don't know what, like when she was out in labor and I don't know what that was about. I don't have ah i don't have a theory on that.
00:30:25
Speaker
But there was a lot of talk about how she was overdue. like There was a lot of talk about it. Like, kind of to a weird level. I don't know why. I remember feeling like this pregnancy has gone on my entire life. Yes, exactly. Because if you think about it, and they were trying to make it seem like she got pregnant at the very beginning beginning of August, or maybe before that. Yeah. Like we are talking 10, 11 months that this whole thing has been dragged out. Yeah. So um but ah yeah, But remember hearing about like the baby being overdue? And then even when um Harry came forward and like talked about it afterwards, he was like, this baby didn't want to come out. Like I just, yeah, yeah, I do remember that.
00:31:23
Speaker
Okay. There was a lot of talk about this. So that was about aligning the dates faster or better. Right. Um, and you know, yet the baby was only a seven pound baby, which, and I eat mean, you think her being her age, if she was really, I mean, that you know, if you care, if if a baby's significantly overdue, then there's a lot more risks. So you would think they would have induced, I don't know, but they did make a big point out of it. Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:53
Speaker
Okay, I mean I guess we can stop there with that point. Well, let's look at a few things, um and there's a lot more that I want to talk about, but let's look at a few things in retrospect, and we're gonna assume I'm right. Okay.
Allegations of Racism in the Royal Family
00:32:08
Speaker
Think about the comments about the racism and wondering what color the baby's going to be, the baby's skin color. hu If this was a donor egg,
00:32:22
Speaker
um, probably quite fair to talk about what the baby's going to look like. Right. Specifically depending on whom the donor was. Yeah. Yeah. In color, what kind of makes sense to talk about? So, so I think I'm on, I am leaning toward it's her egg. And I don't know why.
00:32:53
Speaker
I'm leaning that way. And so if that's the case, I'm still in like, the somebody just said a racist comment. Well, see now I fully, I really don't think anyone made a, I mean, I'm gonna defend them. I definitely don't think it was a racist comment. I think it could have been having children who are a mixed race. I mean, I don't think it's,
00:33:18
Speaker
Let's say a well not ah not well thought out question that probably should have been asked in the moment that it was. I think it's a it could be a question that could be turned around to make it sound meant in a way that it should have been. I don't know. I mean, this is one of those things that i mean'm sure the the the discussion probably happened. Everyone interprets a conversation differently.
00:33:48
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, and it could have happened just because, I mean, if it wasn't her egg, if it was, her I mean, it's it's not a, um, an abnormal conversation to have, but if you were trying to spin it, like if you were taking the negative, um, like narrative that I am.
00:34:09
Speaker
then you take that comment and then you say, you yeah, you use it against, you use it against. I know I was, I've been accused before by people who didn't necessarily understand the way my brain worked of overthinking comments. And it took me a couple of years to be like, maybe you're not thinking about how the comments sounded that you made and you're putting it on me to interpret it how you want it instead of reflecting on how you said it.
00:34:40
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, definitely. And I mean, you know, but and kind of the same with autism too. Like you say things and in your mind you're saying them one way, but you're not great at communicating. So someone could take it the other way. Or like, even when I'm sending text messages, I'm like very aware of, okay, I i want to make sure I don't sound like I'm being harsh. And so like I overwrite them. Like I run i like write the longest text messages because I'm like wanting to make sure nobody's interpreting it as being like a curt. I don't know. Mean message. Yeah. So yeah, that was one thing. Hold on. I think that is a good stopping point or for now.
00:35:32
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um
00:35:35
Speaker
And it's like, did every, I mean, did everything I say make sense to you with all the dates and stuff? And it's hard to make sure, but you were able to follow.
Secrecy and Speculation: Meghan's Use of IVF
00:35:44
Speaker
Yeah. And that's why I wanted to pull up that. I pulled the notes for the timeline up, but that's also why I think it was important to do the timeline episodes first. Okay. And I just want to make sure our listeners could follow everything.
00:35:59
Speaker
So yeah, in recap, she took this trip to Canada, she tried to hide it. I think she in some way was some IVF of some sort, whether it's her egg, whether it was a donor's egg, happened at that point. They thought they could kind of get away with this whole thing of just having the baby at home and, you know, hanging on to it and being quiet for a few days, then a few weeks, and then, you know,
00:36:27
Speaker
telling the public that the baby was born later and introducing it later somewhere along the lines I think somebody intervened in that and said no you're not doing that um yeah but it didn't all come forward I think then the little moon bump was used to always make it seem like she was further along which I just think something like that think Like stuff like that, you're like, Oh my God, just why would you do that? Like people carry things. I think you must, you made it worse. You made it worse by trying to do that. Um, yeah. And yeah, I think, um, and then when she, I mean, I think there was a lot of.
00:37:08
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planted distractions along the way at various points. I think there was a lot of tension within the family um and a lot of these big instances of fights that I think could be brought back to this whole idea of them just not being honest about what was going on and trying to pull the wool over.
00:37:34
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over everyone's eyes. and um And then I think there was a really lost moment two to make this something that could have been a good thing. Had they been honest up front, possibly, we mean we don't know if the queen in the palace would have found a way to you know accept it. But what just once it was lied about, then it was not coming
Teaser for Next Episode: Royal Laws and Rules Discussion
00:38:00
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back. Or then everyone was just really angry.
00:38:05
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So next episode, I want to get a little bit more about like the laws and why and why this would have to happen and not have to, why this could have happened and guidelines and what makes a royal a royal and how it fits in with the Constitution and how while some things are in the Constitution one day for the royals, it does not mean that the laws of the land are so.
00:38:29
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um right now. All right. That sounds good. I know nothing of that kind of stuff. So I'm excited. Well, I didn't either. I didn't either. And so it is, and you know what going up, it, they kind of keep it hidden a bit. Like that it's not real out there. It's not real public knowledge. Um, so, I mean, that, that is also part of it. All right, guys.
00:38:53
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Hope you enjoyed, hope you followed. I was nervous and this was not as bad as I thought. No, it was great. It was great. I followed, stayed with you. And I think, yeah, I think you're right. I think we got to jump into a bit of that granular stuff next time. Yeah. Yeah. And also some like additional looking back at some things that were said and what double meetings that could have been. So.
00:39:21
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All right. All right. Sounds good. Y'all have a great rest of your day. by Bye.