Introduction to Dr. Jalal Khan and Quantum Biology
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Hello, everybody. Welcome to another episode of the Beyond Train podcast.
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We're flying through these episodes. Episode 19, today we have Dr. Jalal Khan. I'm really looking forward to this podcast, guys. He is certainly a fountain of knowledge, I think, and has a beautiful perspective on the body, on biology. We're probably going to get a little into quantum biology today. Remember, we talked about that with Keira Lee. So I'm super interested in this. And yeah, we're probably going to talk a little bit about
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Dentistry as well since he's a dentist and I'm sure we're not gonna touch on fluoride too much, but you never know Yeah, so dr. Khan, thank you so much for coming on today. Thanks for having me Leah Certainly. Yeah, so I asked all my guests an introductory question I asked them to define health, you know what health
Defining Health: Energy and Information Flow
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means to them. How does it manifest? You know, what does it look like?
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Health for me is a flow state. It's a flow state of us harvesting energy and information from our environment, storing it inside of us and using it on demand and that whole travel of energy and information. I think the key thing there is not just energy but information as well.
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Um, that entire process is just in absolute flow. There's no blockages. There's no congestion. It's just, um, it's, it's, it's in flow. It's periodic. It's cyclical. It's just, um, feels like you're traveling at 300 kilometers an hour, but you're still that's why that's health for me.
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Very nice. Flow. Energy and information.
Light as Information in Quantum Biology
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You use these interchangeably. Could we throw light into that mix?
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Light provides information to matter and tells space-time and matter how to bend. So really the information is buried in light is the spin of the photons and light itself may be energy but the spin of the photons is the information that is imparted onto the matter that light interacts with.
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So yeah, the key part of health is not just the optimization of energy, but the integration of the right information into the matter that we're dealing with, such that the matter can behave the way that it needs to. And that's what the whole story of quantum biology is like, or is about. Yeah.
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Yeah, and probably all of nature as well, right? That's what it is. Yeah. Yeah. Very nice. Yeah. Well, I mean, quantum biology, this is, this is a super cool topic. I really enjoy it. And I love the connection. I love the connection of taking biology and bringing it down to the basics.
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I was reading through your bio and you were going on about how biology is just applied chemistry and chemistry is just applied physics. So when you really get down to it, biology is quantum.
Studying Life at the Quantum Level
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If we're going to look at it from
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from a deeper perspective, right? You can't just stop at the chemicals and think that we're some inert biochemical makeup. I think that's quite foolish, but yeah, I mean, why go down to the quantum level? Why do we have to go that far to study life? Well, we wouldn't have to if we were still living the way that we were designed to live.
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But what we've done in modern society is fundamentally create a light environment. And by light environment, I don't just mean the light that we can see, but the light that we can't see. So like your Wi-Fi or your telecommunications, like your 4G and your 5G, we've created a light environment which is different to the light environment from which we evolved from. Because we evolved millions of years ago
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for all thousands of years ago with our bare feet on the ground with as much of our skin exposed as practically possible. We weren't wearing sunscreen, we weren't wearing sunglasses and we were eating food that was seasonal and local and pretty much that's the key to health. I get asked all the time what are my
Simple Health Practices and Quantum Biology
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I have friends and family or even overseas. People online they'll ask me that and the answer really is seasonal and local. So it doesn't really matter much else. So if we go and say to somebody that
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you need to get more sun, safe and responsible sun exposure and you need to expose more of your skin to the sun and you need to block artificial blue light at night and even during the day as well. And that's going to help a lot of your health issues like your sleep issues, et cetera, et cetera. They're going to be like, it can't be that easy.
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And so that's where the quantum biology comes in to actually explain the deep science, the complicated science to show that it really is the simple things that are actually gonna move the needle the most for people. And so yeah, why do we have to go to that scale? It's because we have a need to in order to explain to everybody how things actually work.
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it is fundamental but it's kind of not fundamental as well so it is fundamental science this whole quantum health and understanding how electrons and protons behave but then there is the whole metaphysical aspect of things as well which I do think trumps what the quantum biology space is talking about so we even in quantum health tend to get stuck into like the thoughts about electrons and protons and light governing how they
Metaphysical Aspects in Health
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interact and that being really the the holy grail of health but there is that whole aspect of the soul and spirit and that mind body soul spirit connection and when you've got blockages in there once again that word blockages or congestion that can express itself in the in the physical body way as well so yeah my my approach to health is is quantum but it's also
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appreciating that there's this whole metaphysical aspect to our reality and the physical body that we inhabit. And a lot of the people that I work with have issues in the metaphysical space as opposed to in the physical space. And I would say more than half would. And it requires a lot more of an open mind in order to help heal them.
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That being said, quantum health is really cool because it really helps to improve the health of the non-visual photoreceptors inside of our body.
Scientific Explanations for Health Simplicity
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And when you improve the non-visual photoreceptors inside of oneself, that's when your ability to connect to source, the ability to heal your soul, the ability to make the changes necessary in your lifestyle to help heal yourself, they all become easier.
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Yeah. Amazing answer. Perfect answer. I couldn't answer it better. I couldn't even think of a better answer than that. You know, like, um, we do as humans have this need to explain everything and try and get to the nitty gritty of it. And you know, I'm guilty of it as much as the next guy, like I'm on here in this podcast trying to explain everything. Um, but we often get back to this, you know, health is simple and you know, if you do get back to the laws of nature, it really is simple, but, um,
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I sympathize with this because coming from the modern way of thinking with modern science, how everything requires an explanation for something to make sense in someone's mind nowadays, to say, oh, well, the sun is good for you and your light health and circadian rhythm matter. You've got to get down to the quantum level to explain this because you're not seeing it from the chemical level. You're not seeing it from there.
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Even when you're talking about the metaphysical quantum mechanics,
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has like very interesting explanations for this as well. And I kind of think of the double slit experiment and it's really been a while since I've delved into that and studied that. So I might butcher it a little bit and correct me if I'm wrong, but you know, the double split experiment essentially showed that like a particle in a wave are interchangeable. They can act as one or the other depending on whether there's a conscious observer or not. And the wave,
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kind of being in my thinking, looking back on this, you know, the wave is what's beyond, it's the fabric beyond the physical and maybe it is the metaphysical, maybe it's an explanation for the metaphysical, you know.
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I don't think the metaphysical necessarily needs an explanation, but it's interesting that these concepts are present in the study on the quantum level, which is why I appreciate quantum biology so much in the scientific space, because I think it encapsulates science truthfully and very well.
Wave-Particle Duality and Health Potential
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Yeah, I totally agree. I think it's a gift to mankind that quantum physics and
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all the associated sciences have really come to the fore over the course of the last hundred years because it's given us, for those of us that need the answers and have yet to surrender, it has given us some tools to at least start to make sense of it all and yeah I think that whole wave particle duality which was demonstrated in the double slit experiment was like a paradigm shift in
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in our society, in our community, like I think it is absolutely essential that every child is taught that at school when they're in year six or year seven to think that there is an unlimited amount of possibilities embedded in a wave function which collapse into one with a conscious observer means that
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The observer is really, is in some way determining what is in their physical reality, but if they change the way that they think or feel or believe, that can change the possibility. It can open up their access to the other possibilities and observe a different one. That's kind of how I see when I translate it just from the physics, but more into the health side of things. And the only way to do that is through changing the health of your non-visual photoreceptors.
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because we live in a light spectrum, the entire electromagnetic spectrum, we can only see 0.0035% of the entire electromagnetic spectrum. But our body has sensors, and a very small amount of that is the visible light, and then there's the UV light and the infrared light. And the reason why most of the magic happens in our bodies outside the visible spectrum
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in the UV light and the infrared light spectrum is because we can't see those. We can't consciously observe those. And so coming back to the double slit experiment where particle duality, when you can't see the light of the UV and infrared, then all the possibilities are endless. If we could see infrared light and UV light, then that would collapse into a space time thing, like a phone charger or something like that.
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that's a strange example but that's the first thing that came to my mind because it was on the desk here but um but uh just if you think about that how how much does that make one appreciate that it is the UV light and the infrared light where all the magic happens inside of us yeah yeah and it's even interesting to think about it too right like we can only observe that 0.00035 percent through the eyes right but
Perception of Light Beyond Visual Capabilities
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The beautiful aspect of it is that our bodies utilize it all. And I just think of, if you look at what we say, bees can see a different spectrum than us, and then they give a little picture of their perspective. And it's a whole different spectrum of light. They're running off these different sensors.
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or different frequencies, right? A different spectrum than we are. But you know, our cells and our body itself, outside of like the visual experience, experiences all of this light all the time, which is, which I think where the confusion comes from too, right? As we've reduced reality to what we can observe through the five senses, right? I think this is a little bit limiting, right? But yeah, I think you were going to say something there.
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Yes. I mean, like the key non-visual photo receptor for me is, I mean, there's so many, and I reckon, you know, we could really sit here and debate, which is the most important one, but let's say the most ubiquitous one in our body is water. Yeah. Yeah. Because 99% of the molecules inside of our body are water.
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And when water gets exposed to infrared light, it changes from a liquid form into this gel-like or jelly-like form, which is called structured water. And structured water then changes its peak absorption from the infrared light into the UV range because fundamentally as the nature of matter changes, light bends differently. So when water changes from this liquid form into this jelly-like form,
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via the peak absorption of infrared light. Now that it's in a jelly-like form its peak absorption is in a completely different spectrum and now it absorbs UV light better and when it does that that increases the amount of electrons inside of it. So we have this key non-visual photoreceptor that's able to dance with both of the frequencies that we can't see that are on either side of the visible spectrum. And so
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For me, water is absolutely key. We've got to be drinking the right water. We've got to be making the right water using our mitochondria. And with the water as well, I think it's really important that we're imparting it with the right information. And that right information is the spin of the photons that we're exposing ourselves to. Yeah. Yeah, I like the idea that, you know,
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Yeah, water. What a phenomenal
Humans as Light Beings: Bio Photons
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example. What a phenomenal example. That is key. We've talked about easy water. We've talked about Gerald Pollack's work. We've referenced Veda Austin's work, how intention can even shape your water. There's so many aspects to the water debate. I think I would agree with you that it is the most important one.
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Definitely, definitely. But yeah, it's this beautiful, this beautiful connection of the body. And I remember when I was talking with Kira about it, it was interesting. She mentioned that our bodies create our own light as well, right? Do you have any thoughts on that? Yeah, we do. We create our own photons. They're called bio photons.
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It is in the infrared spectrum as well as the UV spectrum. And so we are creating our own light. All of this light is being produced predominantly in the mitochondria. And so as a byproduct of metabolism, infrared light and UV light is being made by us. And the UV light that's being made by us is in the UVC range. So within UV light itself, there's like three different bands. There's UVA, which is
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280 to 320 nanometers, no that's UVB. UVA is 320 to 400, UVB is 280 nanometers to 320 and then UVC is I think 100 nanometers up to 200 nanometers and the light that we are producing is in the UVC range.
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The cool thing is that if you understand a little bit more about what type of light reaches us from the sun, less than 1% of the UV-C light that the sun makes actually reaches earth because the ozone layer is able to filter it out because too much UV-C is damaging to us. In fact, there's medical applications for UV-C light in sterilization of instruments, for instance.
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But we are producing our own UVC light and this is a light which is stronger than the terrestrial sunlight than the sunlight that reaches Earth.
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that reaches our, you know, our lens. And so just to think on that, that we are producing a light which is stronger than the sun, terrestrial light is absolutely phenomenal. And it really goes points to this whole concept of we are light beings, we are quantum light beings, and we have immense power inside of us through the ability of the light that we make. Yeah, amazing.
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The mitochondria is one of the few organelles that Harold Hillman said exists in the cell.
Mitochondria's Role in Energy Production
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And it's something that quantum biology refers to a lot. And I think it's really important. And I think it speaks to the validity of quantum biology because I really enjoy Dr. Harold Hillman's work.
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We've talked about it again and how the endoplasmic reticulum might be an artifact of the electron microscope. Same with the Golgi or even there's questions about the nucleus and things like that. Maybe there is an energetic nucleus rather than a physical one.
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he does mention that the mitochondria is a true organelle. And I take his word for it at this point. But yeah, the mitochondria is so powerful, it creates water, it creates light, you know, what, what is the significance of it beyond what what you were already talking about there? The so it was formerly a bacteria. And so because of that, I think that's why Dr. Howard Herman is saying that it is the
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the one organelle inside the cell that I guess he believes to be true because it was previously a bacteria that was taken in or ingested or enveloped, I can't remember the exact correct word for it, where it was taken into another cell and then used for its ability to produce energy.
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And the energy that it produces, most people think is ATP, but it's actually more to do with the water that the mitochondria produces. And so like with everything in nature, there's like a beautiful periodicity to it. There's a beautiful cyclical nature to it. And we have photosynthesis happening with plants and trees where they're breathing in carbon dioxide and breathing out oxygen and they're sequestering the carbon into the land.
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But then when we eat plants, trees, animals, et cetera, we are then having to do a reverse of the nature's photosynthesis. And so the mitochondria is able to do that because we breathe in the oxygen.
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we are consuming this carbon-based organic matter and then we are breathing out carbon dioxide and we are producing water and that water is then structured by the infrared light and then even more so structured by the UV light to create this exclusion zone water and this bulk phase water to create that interplay between the positive charge and the negative charge
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And that's what actually charges us. That's the energy. It's not so much the ATP. But yeah, mitochondria are these environmental sensors more so than just the energy producers. And they're sensing the environment. And they're saying, OK, well, Jalal's in New South Wales, Australia. Is the food that he's eating of New South Wales, Australia? Or is it an avocado that's been grown in South America?
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lot of the avocados here are grown in South America or is it is it a mango that's grown in the north of Australia in Queensland and it's not a mango from New South Wales so like it's doing those constant checks and then reporting that information back to the brain the thalamus is the key part.
Environmental Influence on Mitochondria and Health
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And the thalamus of the brain is kind of like the tuning fork that tunes us to the Earth's human resonance. And so when the thalamus of the brain is getting aberrant information from the mitochondria, where the mitochondria is saying, he's in New South Wales, Australia, but he's not eating food from there, and it's sending that information to the thalamus.
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and then the thalamus is supposed to tune in with the Earth's human resonance, but it can't even sense the Earth's human resonance because there's so much 5G around and Wi-Fi and all that type of stuff. That's when we start to see a breakdown in the physical of our body.
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Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up to the endosymbiont theory, I think it is. Yes, that's it. Endosymbiosis, that's it. Yeah, endosymbiosis, yeah. And Lynn Margulis, a little note for the listeners, Lynn Margulis proposed that theory, and she was actually against the HIV-causing AIDS. She spoke out against that. So just a little note for you listeners out there. I remember learning about her in university and
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definitely didn't learn that little detail about her but yeah she was definitely opposed to to the HIV cause which obviously we like here and you know she was actually she actually wrote a couple papers against Darwinism so very interesting individual she was but anyways I digress here
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Yeah. And in university, something that I did learn, like I took biochemistry, right? And so we learned the biochemical pathways and the citragasic cycle and all this good stuff, right? H2O as the product of
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in the mitochondria, I'm blanking here, of what the cycle we call it. Anyways, the end product being H2O, we brushed that off so quickly. It was so quick that we brushed it off like it was like the byproduct. It was almost unnecessary, right? You mentioned that it's almost more important. Maybe we can touch on that and maybe talk a little bit about ATP and your thoughts on that.
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Yeah, so my understanding, and a lot of this is the work of Gilbert Ling, and it's important for me to credit Dr. Jack Cruz because he's been able to grab information from all of these really forward thinkers that we're thinking outside the square, such as Dr. Gilbert Ling, and piece these together with his understanding of evolution to really push forward
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and move forward this whole paradigm of quantum biology. So I did want to acknowledge Dr. Cruz for that. With ATP, my understanding is that it actually unfolds proteins so that the protein hydration sites can be available to bond to water. So you have the mitochondria producing the mechanism that unfolds the proteins and then you've got the mitochondria
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which is the water of course. So that's really how things work. Proteins inside of us don't work unless they are hydrated by our body's water. They just don't work. And so there's this problem where we are living lives that are actually
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affecting our body's ability to produce water it's affecting the mitochondria so then your body becomes dehydrated at a cellular level and that's a dehydration that's got little to do with the water that you're drinking but everything to do with the water that you're not making and that dehydration affects tissues
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We've got anecdotal evidence. I've got more and more friends in their late 20s and early 30s who are tearing ligaments, doing something simple. They're not even playing any heavy contact sport and they're hurting themselves in some long recovery. This points to the fact that they're living lives that are basically
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all to do with blue light exposure on the eye and the skin and minimal sun exposure. And so their cells are dehydrating, which just means that they're more, they're just easier to break and hard to put back together.
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Yeah. And I think back to when we did go over Gilbert Ling's work, I believe he was the one that proposed the idea that there was the structured water that surrounds proteins as well, right? Like the association induction hypothesis, I believe.
Structured Water vs. ATP Energy Debate
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Yeah, I think just to kind of put a little note for the listeners too, we've talked about Gilbert Ling before. I just want to remind you guys that. He was able to prove that the theory of ATP providing the energy for our cell was breaking the second law of thermodynamics.
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So it was just thermodynamically impossible for ATB to be the source of energy inside of ourself. And so that's what led him to lead to looking for a different solution. And it came to water and he was right. He wasn't entirely right about the mechanisms behind how water produced the energy. And I think Dr. Pollack really like
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blew open the lid on that with all his amazing work. But it was Dr. Gilbert Ling that really pushed us in the right direction to think a little bit differently. And I mean, the ATP oxidative phosphorylation hypothesis with ATP being the key energy factor inside of the cell, I mean, that won a Nobel Prize.
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which has been proven wrong. So it just goes to show that not necessarily a Nobel Prize is all correct. Yeah, we like to hear that. I think. Yeah, that's cool. That's a really cool perspective. Really, really great explanation, I think. Yeah, so
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On the topic of water, we're producing water with our mitochondria, light is involved in this, the energy, the food that we're consuming, all plays a role in this. Consumption of water.
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I think, PERS, obviously, it should be structured, right off the bat. It should be structured. I'd like to hear your kind of postulates for what a good drinking water is. How do we get that good drinking water nowadays? Look, I mean, your ideal drinking water is like just naturally occurring spring water. But then you have to look at, OK, well, what is the land area that it's capturing? Is that land being sprayed with glyphosate?
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and other things. But we also live in a society where it's so hard to be healthy, this fluoridated water and this and that. And so it's like, what can we do that's like the bare minimum which our body can handle? Because if you understand probably all of this quantum stuff, then we appreciate that we structure our own water. So it's not the end of the world if we don't structure the water that we ingest, that we have. So we structure our own water.
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I mean people can be having reverse osmosis water which is great because it filters out a lot of the issues but then the problem with the reverse osmosis water is that it filters out all the good minerals that may be in the water and so you're literally drinking a dead water.
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when you're drinking a water which is like entirely dead but at the same time stripped of all its minerals when you have that it's going to draw all the minerals out of your body into the water because water has an affinity for minerals and so when I'm drinking water I'm always adding you know something like saltic sea salt back into it because just a little bit and and that's enough just to give it a little bit of a
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a mineral profile to help protect my body. And it's not necessarily a bad taste. It's something which I quite quickly became accustomed to and I'm enjoying it. And now I find it hard to drink water without it being remineralized in some way.
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So that's how I do it and it's important as well that we talk about optimal health and stuff but we shouldn't be holding ourselves to such standards where it's like if we don't meet them we think that we're going to die or that it's the end of the world because then that itself creates a lot of stress and increases cortisol and
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that hurts the journey so like there are like the top tier things which are absolute must that are non-negotiables and then there are like the stuff which are nice to haves because our body has this ability to handle a lot of assault like it's so robust we store light inside of our bodies at seven different levels seven different scales so like it's okay if not everything's perfect you know
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So if the water is not 100% ideal, it's not the end of the world. For me, the non-negotiables is like that morning sun. It's artificial, blocking artificial blue light. I pretty much do it most of the day. Right now I'm not wearing glasses, but the screen is set to the orange.
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But at work, I pretty much work with no ceiling lights on. I just use the natural light coming in through the windows. And I guess I'm fortunate because I'm in a position where I'm working for myself, so I can dictate that. But the lights that we have at work are kind of full spectrum lights from a local company called Block Blue Light. And so the blue light within those lights changes throughout the day to mirror the sun. And so
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So yeah, it's with water, as I said, it's important, no doubt about it. But what's more important is that we're structuring our water. Yeah, yeah. Well, I think that's a great point. Yeah, the fear is worse than anything that you could consume, right? Like we get back to Veda Austin's work, the intention, right? Our mindset, you know,
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on drinking. If you're going to sit there and say, oh, this water is bad.
Structured Water Intake and Tap Water Toxicity
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Well, then that water is going to pick up on that energy. Right. So, you know, a nice little practice of gratitude, a little blessing on the water never hurts. Even if it's, even if it's some tap water, you know, some city tap water, maybe, I mean, I just still try to avoid that stuff.
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Yeah, look, I mean, tap water, I totally agree, is something which, like, avoided all costs, you know? So, like, traditionally, when I head out with the family, we have literally, like, five or six, like, you know, one-liter water bottles just always in the car when they're always waiting in the fridge or on the countertop ready to go, just because if we do end up going to a restaurant or we end up, you know, going to some friend's place and they don't have the filtered water,
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we will be pretty strict on not drinking the tap water. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, really this is largely because of the toxicity associated with it, right? It's not necessarily that it's not structured or that it's, you know, the toxicity is really the concerning part.
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Yeah. So good, good, great distinction there, honestly. Yeah. So one more question, kind of on the topic of quantum biology, biochemical pathways, you know, what weight can we attribute to the study of biochemistry as it is right now, you know,
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I understand, you know, we could get into sense geologies work, we could get into some true, you know, visionaries in my mind of how to look at biochemistry, but what are your thoughts on the pathways associated with it? You know, what is, what, what weight do you place on that? I guess is what I'm trying to ask. Not much, if I'm honest.
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just because I don't think that we're ever going to know the full story of all the biochemical pathways. I think what's more important to appreciate is that there are 100,000 biochemical reactions happening inside of our body every second and they all need to be timed to perfection. So who really
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I don't really care about the nature of the biochemical reactions. I care about timing them to perfection, which really comes back to circadian biology and understanding how our body gets its sense of time and preserves it.
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It's not to say that biochemistry isn't important but I just feel that there's an element of we're never going to know all the biochemical pathways and sometimes you just have to surrender to the fact that you're not going to know them all and that what's more important is timing them and I guess there's also this element of
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It's still very reductionist and it's not really of a vitalist approach to the way the body works because it's never really about, if you look at Albert St. Georgie's work on the TCA cycle, for instance, the TCA cycle is more about deuterium and hydrogen than anything else.
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Because why does it take nine steps to split a six carbon glucose into two, three carbon pyruvates? Why does it take nine steps? Not very efficient. Exactly. Yeah. Like if we think about it in a typical way, it's very inefficient, isn't it? Like, can't you just get, you know, some protein that acts like a scissor and just cleaves it into two in one step and then you're like done. And the reason is this, the TCA cycle is used to check every single hydrogen.
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on the glucose and to confirm that it's not a deuterium. So, I mean, the biochemists are still looking at everything the wrong way. It fundamentally always comes back to electrons and protons and the nature of the protons. Is it a protein or is it a deuterium?
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Wow. Well, I sure appreciate that explanation. I'm sure listeners will too. That's, that's really interesting. Different way to look at it. For sure. Yeah. Amazing. Um, I got one more question actually about this topic and then maybe we can move into some dentistry. If, if we can get off this topic, you know, I've got so many questions. Um,
00:37:36
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artificial UV light or artificial infrared light, these are kind of things that hot topics in the alternative world, you know, you got the red lights, you know, the given the infrared light, you have the UV light during the day, they say it's the happy light or whatever it is. And maybe even we could group tanning beds into this, you know, what
00:37:58
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What are your thoughts on this? Is it a viable mimicry of nature? Is it actually helpful? Is the EMFs worse than the non-native EMFs worse than the actual UV and infrared? What are your thoughts around this topic? It's a good question. I think for someone on a health journey, sometimes they need the extra light just to really help them because they may be living in
00:38:25
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in an environment or a latitude which is low in UV light and yes the answer is move closer to the equator where there's a better light environment but you know some people have kids and they've got to work and they've got older parents and they can't just get up and leave and so it's important that we respect that and we come up as a
00:38:48
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as an industry, we come up with ways to help people. I think the power of the red light and the red light therapy with the associated infrared lights, I think that's quite powerful. I'm a bit wary of the artificial UV lights just because it needs to be balanced by the red and if it's misused, it can really hurt people.
00:39:11
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Fundamentally though, like even if you're not living at an optimal latitude, like all of these things are just an excuse to just stop you from going outside. It's simple. It's free. It's easy. It's going to improve your mood because you get the full spectrum.
00:39:26
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These are still narrow bands and you need the full spectrum. We must appreciate and understand that the sun is not just one spectrum of light, it's a full spectrum of light and so you get everything that your body needs at all the scales in order for it to have that flow state.
Natural Sunlight vs. Artificial Lights
00:39:45
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So in short, I recommend it sometimes. It's a case-by-case basis, but it's not something which I would have a blanket rule for everybody that they need to do.
00:39:57
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Awesome. Well put. Yeah. Amazing. Okay.
Dentistry's Broader Impact on Health
00:40:01
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I do want to talk a little bit about dentistry. I want to hear, maybe we could just have a brief over you, your approach to dentistry, you know, what effect the teeth and the mouth and the airways has on the body, you know, maybe just a little, little intro spiel, and we'll get into that a little more.
00:40:17
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Yeah, sure. So, I mean, dentistry is an interesting area of health because most dental schools, at least mine, were just taught about teeth and were taught about how to repair teeth and were taught a little bit about the cosmetic side of things.
00:40:32
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veneers and orthodontics, et cetera. But we're not really taught about anything else. And so I've been a dentist for 12 years, but for the first three, four years, I was really just in my lane doing what I was taught, et cetera. And then I started to realize or ask the question, why are teeth crowded in the first place? And so that led me to think
00:40:55
Speaker
about different reasons for that and started to come across Western Air Price's work. I read Dr. Stephen Min's book which is called The Dental Date. He's a colleague that's not too far from where I am, probably a couple of hours, so a local colleague. That was a fabulous book which was really expanding on Price's work and explaining the
00:41:19
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some of the dietary considerations around why dental health should be improved, how dental health can be improved, things like vitamin D, vitamin K2, organ, meats, et cetera, et cetera. But I still feel, though, that there's many dentists that are holistic in client, and this is going to be controversial, but they're still doing a half job of things.
00:41:42
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because they're focusing on, okay, no fluoride. They're focusing on BPA free materials. They're focusing on like no root canals and ceramic implants and, you know, and, and all this type of stuff. Um, and, and they're well-intentioned and they're well-meaning and they're doing great work, but they've still stopped at just like the teeth and the teeth materials. And you've got a few of them that are thinking as airway dentists or functional dentists. And they're appreciating that.
00:42:08
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If the teeth are crowded, it's because the jaw is too small. So let's just make the jaw bigger. And because the airway sits behind the jaw, then we make the jaw bigger, then that's going to help the airways, going to help the child to breathe better and so they're going to sleep better and happy days. So these airway dentists and these functional dentists or integrated dentists, I was one of them for a few years and I actually stopped doing the work in the middle because I was like,
00:42:36
Speaker
something's not right here, it just doesn't add up. So for about two, three years I stopped doing the work and I just went back to general dentistry until I found
00:42:46
Speaker
I found the answer to what was missing, which was the fact that even the functional dentists are doing a half job because they're just focusing on this part here and they've forgotten about the whole cranium. And so it requires a humility. It requires a dropping of the ego to understand that I am an osteopath. I'm just working on different bones.
00:43:12
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And so I'm working on the upper jaw and I'm working on the lower jaw and I'm working on the teeth. And I will go as far as to say that every tooth is its own individual bone. Because the ligament that it's held in, in the bone, like every tooth has a bit of give, that ligament is called a, it has something called Sharpie's fibers in it. There was this really smart guy called Sharpie who discovered some fibers and named them after himself.
00:43:38
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But those sharpies fibers are also found inside the sutures between the cranial bones. And so what we have is I believe is like we've got 32 bones inside of our mouth and those are the teeth. And so I'm working, I'm just an osteopath that's working on this section here.
00:43:57
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And so when when I met Cole, who you've interviewed, who is a cranial osteopath, and when he explained to me, you know, his way of thinking about the mouth, it was kind of like a light bulb moment for me. It was like, holy moly, this is actually the holy grail of dentistry. And it's got nothing to do with teeth and jaws. And it's got everything to do with the cranium.
Integration of Dentistry and Cranial Osteopathy
00:44:20
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but I haven't been taught any of that and so I was like okay I have to go and start to read some books I have to sit down and talk with Cole more and I have to pick his brain out to understand how you know the sphenoid bone and the occipital bone work and how that drives the mechanism this primary respiratory mechanism which all the osteopaths talk about and I mean Cole says now that I explained the primary respiratory mechanism better than he does
00:44:43
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So he probably explains the dentistry better than I do. But that's how much time we've spent together talking and inquiring about each other's disciplines so that we can both become better
00:45:00
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clinicians and practitioners for our patients and it's been beautiful because working alongside Cole has been for me the the purest expression of myself as a physician and I think it's quite humbling to appreciate that that is not happening
00:45:17
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we just meet alone as an individual but it's happening with someone else so it's like i can't express myself entirely as a clinician the best way i can i less cold is around so that's been humbling it's been beautiful but yeah i mean we have as dentists what my take is is that like
00:45:35
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we are quantum thermodynamic beings, to go back to the first half of this conversation, and quantum thermodynamic beings are essentially non-linear light beings, and so any environmental stimulus that we receive is amplified massively inside of our body, and it might not necessarily be amplified locally, it could be amplified to a distant part of the body. So when one photon comes in through the eye, it gets amplified a millionfold.
00:46:04
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So when there's a stimulus that comes in through the mouth or when the teeth bite together incorrectly, that stimulus can be amplified throughout the body as well. And how does that happen? So the teeth are all sitting on meridians. And so when they come together, they are actually providing a charge for all of the organs and tissues on those meridians.
00:46:31
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And so we need to have the teeth coming together nicely. We need all teeth touching. We need a balanced bite. But in addition to that, we have this concept of vectors. And so what vectors are is basically like a force vector. It's like a direction of travel or force. And so for instance, let's say if I was to get a knock to the head from here, and it was coming in like this.
00:46:58
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for those that are listening it's my right cheek it will come out through the left side of my head around you know my left eye type or left temple and so you know we've all had knocks and bumps growing up you know jumping on the monkey bars and you know maybe it's a sports injury but when I get knocked from the right the compression of the bone is not actually on the right the compression of the bone is actually on the left side of the head where the force vector exits
00:47:29
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now you start to look at the structure of teeth and teeth have got like the crowns which are the parts that are that we can see when we smile and they're like um above the gum or then you've got below the gum you've got roots but all the roots are like in you know twisting and turning in different directions and yes they house the nerve canals but what they're also doing is they're delivering the force vector to different parts of the head different parts of the cranium so we can use the mouth to amplify the movement of the cranial bones
00:47:59
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by getting patients to bite on their teeth correctly.
Cerebrospinal Fluid in Physical and Metaphysical Healing
00:48:04
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So that's what Colin and I do. I am able to make appliances which deliver forces to the rest of their head via the mouth, these force vectors. And then we get this better movement of the cranial bones. And just to come back to what that mechanism is that I touched on earlier.
00:48:22
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our cranial bones are they're moving they're flexing and extending against each other while we are conscious well you know in you and I even you and I in 30 40 50 years like that cranial bone movement will still be there and it's happening all the time it's a rhythmic motion and it's ever so gentle it's ever so slight but it's there and the cranial osteopaths are trained well enough to be able to
00:48:47
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sense and palpate that and then understand if there's a locking of it where like one bone isn't moving as well as what it could be and when you get a locking of the cranial bones that's when you get trouble because the the movement of the cranial bones is driving the the the rhythmic motion of the cerebrospinal fluid down the spinal column and back up into the brain down the spinal column back up into the brain so it's like a hydraulic pumping of the cerebrospinal fluid
00:49:17
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It's also helping to clear the lymph that builds up in the head. And so when we get a locking of the cranial bones means we can't pump the cerebrospinal fluid as well as possible. We can't clear the lymph as well as we can. That starts to lead to brain fog. And then the mystics among us will believe that the soul, the cerebrospinal fluid is the seat of the soul. And so if the seat of the soul is not
00:49:44
Speaker
pumping optimally, does that injure the soul? How do we heal the soul? Will this at least get it to express itself properly? And so that's what Cole and I do together in our patients.
00:49:55
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So we kind of think of it as like a dental alchemy or a craniodental alchemy because we're not just helping people on a physical body level with their headaches and their migraines and their neck pain and their left hip pain, but we're helping them at the soul level as well because we truly believe that the cerebrospinal fluid is the seed of the soul. And we've had some tremendous, tremendous transformations in some patients who don't block artificial blue light
00:50:26
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don't get any sun their skin is as pale as anything like as pale as so that they look unhealthy and they're not eating optimal foods and they're drinking tap water and there's like no lifestyle changes whatsoever and I'm not saying that you know it's okay to do all those things guys but what I'm saying is is that
00:50:49
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All we've done is optimized the pumping of the cerebrospinal fluid via delivering forces through the mouth and the cranial osteopathic work. And this girl comes back to us two months later and she just feels absolutely incredible. And she looked amazing. Like she looked like you could sense the light that was coming off her. There was so much vitality in her eyes. Cole and I were just like completely dumbfounded at the transformation in her.
00:51:18
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and she felt it herself and as I said she's made no lifestyle changes. So I guess what I'm trying to discuss or elaborate on is this concept of like the metaphysical really is the key driver behind things because if you unlock the soul and you heal the soul
00:51:37
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the soul will take care of the rest. If you free the soul of all the injuries that it's accumulated throughout life, whether that be societal, you know, programming or, you know, culture or parents or, you know, some sort of trauma along the way, physical, sexual, emotional, you free the soul of those traumas, then the soul will start to make the right decisions. Now she's starting to stop drinking the tap water. She's like, okay, what can I do next? What can I do next to love?
00:52:06
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You know, where do I buy the blue light blockers from? Now she's asking me these questions and it's just a sign that the soul is healing and now she's ready to make those lifestyle changes. Whereas if you just go hard and say, no, you need to do these things first. It's not a sensitive way as a clinician to try and heal people.
00:52:24
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I mean yeah my day job is dentistry but like all my new patients I kind of I step out of the role as dentist and I go into this other role which I kind of a term which I coined which is the primary care metaphysician and I stand back as a primary care provider for this person but not a primary care provider as a general practitioner in you know the physical body traditional western medicine space but in the metaphysical space and I'm like okay
00:52:53
Speaker
Where is this person stuck? Are they stuck at the soul? Are they stuck in the mind? Are they stuck in the physical body? Where do they need help? Where do they need to shove in the right direction? And then I work out from there. And more often than not, we can use the mouth to help that through the optimizing of the cerebro spinal fluid flows, the CSF flows. But other times it's like they're not even ready for that. They've got to do other things first.
00:53:19
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go and read a holy book or go and see a shaman or something like that first. Change their diet. Go carnival for six weeks. Not that I'm a fan of long-term carnival, but there's nothing wrong with carnival for a short period of time just to rescue a situation. Agreed.
00:53:38
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Yeah, what a beautiful overview. And it was a light bulb for me talking with your partner, Nicole, and again today. And it seems like every week when I have a new guest on. So maybe the listeners are going to be annoyed by me saying that, but it's true. It's amazing to hear these connections, right? Everything's so beautifully connected. And I want to highlight is like,
00:54:05
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the teeth referring to different parts of the skull, right? Like the biggest takeaway from our podcast with Cole was if you're ever going to do any sort of work on the front and the maxilla and the mandible, you need to be addressing the whole skull. That was the key takeaway.
00:54:24
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what I really liked about what you were saying there was how the teeth refer to all placed in the skull. And Cole mentioned this, that the bite, um, that you guys would, that you specially designed something to bite down on so that all the teeth can refer properly to the rest of the skull. Um, and so it's body type specific though, body type specific. It's like, we don't, we don't go to the level of, okay,
00:54:51
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Liev is not sleeping well and you know he's got a bit of brain fog and you know he's struggling to function optimally and he doesn't feel like the same Liev of five years ago. We're going to just make this appliance and then if Liev B comes in with the same you know with the same things we're just going to make the same appliance for him it's like well we use kinesiology to work out what their body type is.
00:55:17
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And then we designed the appliance specifically for the different person's body type. And the determination of that body type, this is where it really loops it nicely. We do this for the adults, not the children, but the determination of the body type really boils down to light in the eyes. So we introduce syntonics. And that's where the mind blowing stuff is because like in our eyes, we've got
00:55:43
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We've got cones and we've got rods and the rods pick up black and white and shadows etc and depth and the cones pick up color and the three colored cones that we have in our eyes are red, blue and green. So this is visual photo reception. We've spoken a lot about non-visual photo reception earlier.
00:56:00
Speaker
But so we've got red cones, blue cones, and green cones. And these cones have got varying densities based on body type. So some people have more green cones in their eyes. Some people have more red cones. Some people have more blue cones. Then we've got
00:56:22
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a primary density of cones, but then we also have a secondary density of cones. So if someone is a green cone primary density, then what's their second most dense cone? Is it blue or is it red? And then once we know what their second is, we know what their third is. So people can be a green, blue, red, or they can be a green, red, blue. They can be a red, green, blue, or a red, blue, green, and the same for the primary blue. So you've got six different body types.
00:56:48
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and each of those each of those body types has a specific personality archetype and so like um the red greens have a specific nature and you start to talk to them about what their nature is without even knowing them and they're like how do you know this like this is uncanny and it's like because i know what your body type is and so do the green blues and so do the blue reds etc etc
00:57:09
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And so once we work out what their body type is, then we can make the right appliance for them. And that right appliance is specific to their body type to help to help the cerebrospinal flow like it needs to for a red or like it needs to for a blue. Mm hmm. So I guess like. Is is the goal, I suppose,
00:57:39
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I guess, I guess the question I want to ask is to, is to get to that ideal bite, right? Kind of to where it's almost not necessary. Like, um, is that possible? Do you think, you know, is there the perfect bite that refers the teeth to the rest of the skull perfectly? Is that something that you try to foster in children? I know you mentioned that there's something you do with adults, but can you catch it in children and like have their, their teeth aligned properly?
00:58:09
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You can. So in the adults, we call it craniofacial rehabilitation. But in the kids, I like to think of it as the guidance of craniofacial growth. We're just guiding. We're not rehabilitating. Nobody's broken. Everybody's perfect. They just need the keys to be turned in the direction for them to be able to flow forward.
Guiding Natural Craniofacial Growth in Children
00:58:30
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Nobody's broken. So with the kids, we use appliances that just
00:58:36
Speaker
unlock the body's growth mechanism, which is the movement of the cranial bones that drives the growth of the face forward. So we're not trying to be like, let's get braces on and like, let's pull this tooth this way and that tooth. Yeah, that looks like the best bite. Perfect. All right, we'll put some retainers in see you later. It's not like that. It's not like that at all. It's like, in the kids, we just particularly like ages, you know,
00:59:03
Speaker
four through to 12. If you just unlock the body's growth mechanism, just let the body do it. The body will design the right bite, the body will design the right teeth, the arch shape and all that type of stuff. It's harder when it's when you're treating children that are more than 13 because then I
00:59:20
Speaker
It really, the onus is on me to really understand what is the right bite for this person because I have to use some stronger appliances to help guide them in the right direction. But at the end of the day, I'm still kind of respecting the fact that there's a specific body type for this person. So I need to design the mount that is sensitive to that person's body type. Because if someone is six foot three and is a big fellow with broad shoulders, you know, that was
00:59:48
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you know, in Australia rugby, front rowers or whatever the case is, we
00:59:54
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they're gonna have a completely different mouth to a young petite girl that's gonna be five foot three and is gonna be thin and doesn't have a huge amount of weight on her. She doesn't need the same size mouth as him. So it's about understanding that and designing mouths that are specific to body types. Like I had a patient in yesterday who had like most people, 99% of dentists will look at the mouth and go, it's a perfect mouth. The jaw's big enough.
01:00:22
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is ticking all the boxes according to the functional dentistry algorithm. And I looked in his mouth and I said, your mouth's too small for you. And he said, that's exactly how I feel, but no one listens to me. And I said, the reason I can tell is because this tooth is biting and disarrangement, et cetera, et cetera. We took a few photos. One of his eyes was higher than the other. One of his ears was imbalanced compared to the other. So he had all the hallmarks of some sort of craniofacial blockages, which Cole will be able to even out.
01:00:52
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with the aid of an appliance by me. But yes, one of the key things I wanted to share with your listeners was this whole concept of like orthodontics and straightening teeth and the paradigm that I'm trying to push out there. And I'm grateful for, you know, you sharing a platform with me is because this is a really important information for anyone with children or even if you've got grandchildren, tell your children about this for the sake of the grandchildren.
01:01:20
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The body has an innate intelligence, and when we have crowded teeth, the body's done that for a reason. It's a compensation which is absolutely necessary for you to function properly, for you to breathe properly, for you to walk properly, for you to have your head on your spine. The body has twisted that tooth and moved that tooth further forward, et cetera, et cetera. So what I like to think of it is it's a functional misalignment. It's a misalignment, doesn't look great, you wanna straighten it,
01:01:50
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but it's functional. What we in dentistry or orthodontics, patients themselves request this, I want the teeth straightened. So we straightened the teeth, but we have now taken them from a position where they were misaligned but functional and now we've made them aligned but dysfunctional. And so the body's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, why'd you do that? Why'd you do that? I need to move them back there. And so then the orthodontic relapse starts to happen.
01:02:19
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where the teeth start to move back. The cranium's driving that. And so then people are, I'll do it again. I have another round of Invisalign or I have another round of braces to get it back to where it was. And then the number of people that I have that have had two or three rounds of braces and they're still seeking the same thing. The definition of an insanity, according to Albert Einstein, was doing the same thing but expecting a different result.
01:02:47
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So we now have this, we have this dysfunctional alignment, which the cranium wants to move back. And so then we as a profession got really smart. We're like, okay, we're going to put retainers in, which is going to hold these things in place. We're going to put a little wire behind the teeth and that's going to hold the teeth in place. And now the cranium is like, oh, Dan, I can't move those teeth back anymore. You're not going to let me recreate that compensation. You bastard.
01:03:15
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Why did you do that to me? Like, okay, I'm going to have to get another structure now. I'm really sorry, but another structure is going to have to compensate. And so that's when someone starts to have a click in their left jaw or they start to get some sort of, you know, mobility in their cervical spine or the C1 never stays in alignment or their left hip is out or, you know, they get right foot pain or
01:03:39
Speaker
right lower back pain because the body is choosing another structure to compensate for the fact that it can't move the teeth back because we lock them in with the wire retainer. And so that is the big paradigm that I want to push on people.
Holistic Health: Soul, Community, and Body
01:03:56
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I implore them to understand that when you straighten teeth you need to straighten the body at the same time.
01:04:03
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which means you need to work with manual therapists that know how to work on their head, that know how to straighten out the rest of the body so that you create a system around the mouth that holds the mouth in place. Otherwise the mouth's just gonna go back. When I say it, everybody's like, well duh, obviously. So then it's like, okay, well now let's push that as a people, let's demand that of the dental profession.
01:04:33
Speaker
Let's expect that because that's the only way the dental profession is going to move. Yeah. Wow. Well, I'm really glad you brought that up because I think, well, it not only makes a lot of sense, but, you know, the body, I think importantly, you know, the body is not stupid. It doesn't just have crooked teeth for no reason. There's always a reason.
01:04:57
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for everything, you know, nothing happens just randomly, right? And, you know, I'm really glad to brought that up because aligning the whole body, you know, it's almost like the teeth are microcosm of the rest of the body, right? If you align the rest of the body, the teeth will also
01:05:16
Speaker
help align. And maybe there is the necessity for aid in that process too. I'm not sure, right? But yeah, you're the expert here. There might be a necessity, right? There might be a necessity for help in realignment, like you guys working with the bites, but getting that feedback and the rest of the skull. And with the rest of the body, right? Even when I was talking with Cole,
01:05:43
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Yeah, it's, it's good. If you're gonna do a lot of work on the front, you definitely need to address the back, but we still need to address the whole body too. 100%. Yeah, so I think that's really fundamental. Yeah, I mean, I think this might be a good time to kind of wrap things up. I want to give you the floor maybe
01:06:04
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hit anything that you think you missed or anything that you want to add to that, you know, no rush, like whatever comes to mind. Yeah, look, I mean, my prevailing message is always that health is not just about the food that you eat. It's not just about the light that you expose yourselves to. It is about the soul. It is about community. It is about laughter.
01:06:29
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There are plenty of people that are thriving in major cities, but they've got amazing community around them and that allows them to thrive. So don't be scared of non-native electromagnetic frequencies. Your body has an immense ability to withstand these things and there's hacks that you can do, but it doesn't mean that you have to drop everything and leave your mom and dad.
01:06:54
Speaker
and move away because if you're making life decisions based on fear, then as Vader Austin's work shows, what does that do to the water inside of your body? So walk around like a lion, walk around like a lioness. Own the jungle, it's yours. We are all lions, we are all lionesses. It's a jungle out there and if we walk around the way that we are designed to,
01:07:21
Speaker
We're going to thrive and we're going to share our light with other people and help them shine, help them thrive just by being an example. So I always like to kind of finish on that note where I'm not just, it's not just about the food. It's not just about the light. It is about the soul. It is about the community. It is about love. It is about laughter because that trumps all. Yeah. Couldn't agree more. Yeah. Fear is a killer.
01:07:47
Speaker
fear and scarcity and all that. All these negative emotions are much worse than anything you can imagine. I love that message. I love it. Amazing. Thank you for sharing that. Thank you for coming on today.
Engaging with Dr. Khan: Social Media and Resources
01:08:01
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I want you to tell listeners how they can find you, how they can support you, how they can learn from you, maybe some websites or social medias.
01:08:10
Speaker
Yeah, sure. My Instagram handle is k2calibur. So it's k2calibre. That's also my Twitter or X handle. My website is k2calibur.com. My dental website is thedentalstation.com.au.
01:08:30
Speaker
happy to look at those, I'd be grateful for that. But I guess the other thing is that I am planning to come to Florida in September and I want to present a talk to really go into detail around some of these quantum dentistry, dental alchemy concepts that I talk about on the podcast. It's probably going to be late September. It's going to be a live event.
01:08:54
Speaker
probably an intimate event, 20 or 30 people with some lectures, but also some live demonstrations that people actually get to see it work in person face to face. So hit me up in the DM sort of our email if you're interested in that. I'd be very grateful and really appreciate you having me on the show.
01:09:16
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. Yeah. And I'm going to put the links down below. So should be easy access. That's cool. That'd be a great talk to go to. I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely something you want to see in person too, with the examples that like live examples, that'd be amazing.
01:09:31
Speaker
Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. Thanks again. I really appreciate this talk. You guys like you and I've, you know, I like it at the coal as well. You two have amazing perspectives. I think you guys are on the forefront. I think you guys are hitting the nail on the head when it comes to dentistry, when it comes to, um,
01:09:49
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you know, restructuring and remediation of the jaw. And because it's a hot topic right now, the mewing and the thumb pulling and the Maxwell expansion. And I think it's a great movement. I think it is. I really think it is. I'm glad that people are focusing on it. But you and Cole definitely bring
01:10:08
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a longevity perspective to it, right? You guys are taking the true holistic perspective towards it. So that's why I really deeply appreciate your guys' work. And I really want to get it out there for, you know, my humble following here. I know they appreciate it as well. Definitely. Big, big love. Yeah.
01:10:29
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All right, I wanna thank you all as well for listening. You should know this is not medical advice, this is not dental advice either. This is for informational purposes only. But remember, we're all responsible, sovereign beings, capable of thinking, criticizing, and understanding absolutely anything, every single one of us. We the people and the greater forces together are self-healers, self-governable, self-teachers, and so much more. Please reach out if you have any questions, comments, criticisms, concerns, whatever it may be. You know where to find me on Instagram. That's where I answer all the messages.
01:10:57
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And yeah, guys, I really appreciate you guys for taking the time today. If you enjoyed it, found it informative, give us a like, comment, help me grow, you know, whatever thing you're on, do the thing. Do the thing to help me. I appreciate you guys. Remember, there are two types of people in the world. Those who believe they can, those who believe they can't, and they are definitely both correct. All right, guys, thanks for listening. Take care.