Introduction and Fusion Personas
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BeyBlade
Hello, you are listening to the all-new Anti-Fanboy Podcast for the week of 11-23-20-25.
00:00:09
BeyBlade
oh Boy, I'm just, I'm cold. It's officially cold people season, because I'm one of them. My name's Devin Kopech, with me, Chris Galani.
00:00:21
billfrankenstein
ah the first half of Kevron Galantech, as I like to be called.
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BeyBlade
my My fusion buddy in tow. Then we got a Steve O'Tiri.
00:00:32
Steve-O
The first part of the Viper of Solterra. F.A.O.D.
00:00:38
BeyBlade
And then ah we got the worst part of the Viper of O'Tiri. Solterra, John Suarez. you and
00:00:46
megadong
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I just posted the picture of Pimucus.
00:00:50
BeyBlade
Are you posting it? Look at it.
00:00:52
billfrankenstein
Oh, but we got hot pin mucus. Hot off the presses.
00:00:56
BeyBlade
of home Wow. That's just Dana White with hair, dude. That's just... Wow. Alright. The pin mucus.
00:01:10
billfrankenstein
Secretly jerks off to our fights. Pin mucus.
00:01:13
BeyBlade
Yeah. Potted plants beware, dude.
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BeyBlade
Get out of here.
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megadong
is all out of context but we the lowdown is we fused ourselves Devin and Chris refused together and became Krevin Galantech the Iron Meridian
00:01:24
billfrankenstein
We fused ourselves.
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billfrankenstein
Thank you.
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megadong
And me and Steve became Oteres, the Viper of Solterra. And our fight promoter is Pym Mugus.
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billfrankenstein
You guys can jump to conclusions see who that is.
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billfrankenstein
We're not saying.
AI and Personalities
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billfrankenstein
We know him as Tim Mucus. Fight for murder.
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BeyBlade
Pymucus. You'll never know. You'll never guess who's a part of that. Pymucus, everyone.
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Steve-O
Somebody's got to be.
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BeyBlade
Oh, my goodness.
00:02:07
megadong
I'm going to send these to Stin at some point. Just like and in ah in a separate chat.
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megadong
And be like, this is what...
00:02:13
billfrankenstein
we all hate We all hate AI, but it is it is very funny.
00:02:15
megadong
Guys, is what ai this is what this is what AI...
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billfrankenstein
i will say it is very funny.
00:02:21
BeyBlade
hey guys, yeah we found a good use for AI.
00:02:25
billfrankenstein
Those data centers, they may be worth it.
00:02:25
megadong
Yeah. This is not...
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billfrankenstein
I don't know.
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BeyBlade
be fair To be fair, yeah to be fair, we came up, that was good old human engineering that came up with those funny names.
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megadong
We're not doing real stuff.
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Steve-O
This is Eddington right here.
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megadong
Yeah, we gave up with the we came up with the names.
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billfrankenstein
oh you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right.
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billfrankenstein
And the names really guided the experience, I think.
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megadong
but the It's just weird because it got our personalities like us four down. and like actually like It's kind of creepy.
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Steve-O
Yeah, the prompt was based entirely on the names alone.
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megadong
Just based on the names alone.
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billfrankenstein
I think that's fair.
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Steve-O
what would what would this fight be and like what would their like styles be?
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Steve-O
And it like kind of really encapsulated...
00:03:01
BeyBlade
Closer than what felt comfortable.
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megadong
No, it actually, yeah, because it's like, whatchamacallit, what did it say? For fucking, sorry, i keep scrolling down to Pym Mucus and and laughing.
00:03:16
billfrankenstein
Gay eye shows us how important names are. So William Shakespeare, you can eat some shit, okay?
00:03:22
billfrankenstein
Yeah, what is a rose?
00:03:23
BeyBlade
Now that being said, physically, i don't i don't think it could have been more wrong for Chris and I.
00:03:30
billfrankenstein
Um, yeah.
00:03:31
megadong
No, and I mean, whatever, that's whatever.
00:03:33
billfrankenstein
I mean, ah yeah I mean, that's that part of it is is the most different, sure. um But the name, the aura, and personality, yeah.
00:03:41
megadong
But it got your like your personality right. The aura, yeah. Broad-shouldered, armored temperament, former special ops type who trains like it's war.
00:03:47
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah. The vibes. The vibes are on point. Yeah.
00:03:52
billfrankenstein
Yeah, that's exactly both me and Devin. We're former Spec Ops guys.
00:03:58
megadong
And then me and Steve is, I think it got down to a T, assassin-like precision with showman flare is if me and Steve fuse together into a video game character.
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billfrankenstein
I think that is probably more on point than than even Chevron Galantech, which is the strangest part, I think.
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megadong
It's weird, right?
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megadong
It's a little weird.
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Steve-O
It's a little weird. at but I mean, I'm a little biased, but I think we got the better nickname.
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billfrankenstein
Or it could be...
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billfrankenstein
Do you think AI is kind of generating like a ah David and Goliath type of situation?
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megadong
Chris, it knows that you read Blood Meridian and gave you that name.
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megadong
It's in there. It's in the databank somewhere, Chris.
00:04:33
billfrankenstein
if They got me. They got me. I'm done. You guys are done, too.
00:04:39
billfrankenstein
We're all cooked, guys.
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billfrankenstein
It's over.
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Steve-O
Do you think, do you think it like de-scrambled the names?
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megadong
I don't know. Is it? Maybe.
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megadong
i mean, we got ChatGPT getting married to real human beings now. so
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billfrankenstein
Isn't that like cryptology?
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billfrankenstein
like Like figuring out seek like passwords and shit in the languages?
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Steve-O
I'm thinking of a, I'm thinking zooology or what is it?
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billfrankenstein
Crypto...
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Steve-O
Crypt, crypt, crypt, crypt zoology or something.
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billfrankenstein
Cryptozoology?
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Steve-O
It's like Bigfoot.
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billfrankenstein
Yeah, cryptozoology is mythical.
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megadong
But it's like, you guys are the are ah pat are the power fighter and me and Steve are the are the creative fighter. And I think that it's like, crazy it's like, crazy it's crazy that they got it now, you know, it's weird.
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billfrankenstein
I mean, that part obvious is is fair.
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Steve-O
I think, I think the, the Galani part would definitely have the showman too, though. Like, I think they're,
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billfrankenstein
You're right. You're absolutely right.
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Steve-O
There would definitely be like a big like.
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megadong
Yeah. But it it went back and it went deep into the data banks and saw the type of characters that Chris plays in dark souls. And, and then,
00:05:39
billfrankenstein
They're all big bonkers.
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megadong
and and it And it combined that with like Warhammer Space Marine lore and came up with this guy.
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megadong
So that's why I think it's a little cool.
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billfrankenstein
Yeah. Well, that just means me and Devin are really, really easy to read.
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BeyBlade
I suppose, but the thing is, is this is John's chat GPT, right, that he plugged in.
00:05:54
Steve-O
but You know what?
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billfrankenstein
You're right. Yeah, that's true.
00:06:00
BeyBlade
So I don't know if you've plugged our names in before.
00:06:03
billfrankenstein
Well, Devin, I think we're all types in some way, shape, form, right?
00:06:07
BeyBlade
No, yeah, that's what I mean.
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billfrankenstein
We're types.
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megadong
If you look, dude, I'll read you down my fucking chats. It's stuff for a little little bit of stuff for like Excel spreadsheet formulas and shit. And then it's like God's existence discussion.
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megadong
Uh, making a hollow night image with a Philly's cap on.
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megadong
And then it's like, yeah.
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billfrankenstein
Oh, that's fucking cool. Oh,
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megadong
And then it's like Aquaman versus Hawkman.
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megadong
mcdonald's at McDonald's meal calories from when Devin went on that binge that the other like couple few weeks ago.
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Steve-O
Oh, I do remember that.
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billfrankenstein
Yeah. Yeah.
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megadong
Mario vs. Sonic. Cowboy hat on a dog. Joe Burrow image creation.
Car Theft Stories
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megadong
Like, it's just crap. like
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megadong
and but in my in my opinion, it's like, this is what this is what you you use ChatGPT for, for stupid shit like this. you know
00:07:00
billfrankenstein
Of course.
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megadong
I think that's why. it's i I mean, I don't
00:07:02
Steve-O
You come up with amalgam names, turn them into fights, and then let Pym Mucus be the fight promoter.
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billfrankenstein
yeah i mean, that was our idea.
00:07:12
megadong
And then you scroll all the way down and it's like, analyze this saw x-ray for me.
00:07:16
billfrankenstein
That was our idea.
00:07:17
megadong
And it's just...
00:07:17
Steve-O
did you Could you infer what Chevron Galantech's hobbies are? What is this person's hobby? Because if it's like Love's Warhammer, manager It basically is.
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billfrankenstein
Eating raw meat.
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BeyBlade
ah Strip clubs and raw meat, I think is...
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Steve-O
if it's like loves war hammer ah
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billfrankenstein
Oh, yeah.
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BeyBlade
No, then then it's then it's that gif of Ron Swanson throwing the computer into the dumpster, dude.
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Steve-O
manager of you know it basically is
00:07:40
billfrankenstein
Yeah, maybe. At that point, yes.
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BeyBlade
I don't want that. Yeah, I don't want that.
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megadong
umm I'm asking it what their favorite video games are and what kind of hobbies they have.
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billfrankenstein
And i and Devin have very different tastes in video games, so this is going to be...
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Steve-O
Oh, that's kind of scary.
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Steve-O
What if it's like you have a dog and then it merges the dog in?
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megadong
Oh, no! Yo, okay, ready?
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megadong
Hobbies for Kreven Galantik. Precision weightlifting, long-range shooting, tactical board games, Warhammer 40K. Ha ha ha!
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billfrankenstein
Uh-oh! Uh-oh!
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megadong
And then, ready?
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BeyBlade
Most of that stuff isn't true, though.
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megadong
Collecting rare knives and tools.
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billfrankenstein
Devin...
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BeyBlade
Most of that's not true, though.
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megadong
Here it is. Guys, guys, ready? No, but here, here, here. Favorite video games.
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billfrankenstein
Most of it's not true.
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megadong
Here's your... Here's Kreven Galantech's top five video games of all time.
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megadong
Escape from Tarkov, Call of Duty, Modern Warfare, any version.
00:08:34
megadong
It specifies Halo Reach, Rainbow Six Siege, and The Division 2.
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billfrankenstein
Yo, fuck all that.
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BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Steve-O
Okay, okay. Alright.
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BeyBlade
thats That's what I mean.
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BeyBlade
That's what I mean.
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megadong
Are you ready for Heve Oteres?
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Steve-O
not in one in ten What's Tires have?
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megadong
Are you ready for Heve Oteres?
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Steve-O
What's... have a or tirez have
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megadong
Okay, the hobbies are parkour, stand-up comedy open mics, collecting exotic teas, urban photography, and indie dance music production.
00:09:02
billfrankenstein
Urban photography.
00:09:03
megadong
Oh, no. Steve, I think it got us down, dude.
00:09:07
megadong
Top five favorite video games. Number one, Apex Legends. That's Steve. Two, Mirror's Edge. That's me.
00:09:18
megadong
Three, Hades. That could be either of us if we gave it the time of day. Four, Street Fighter VI.
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megadong
And then it says he mains Cami. Of course he does.
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megadong
Which isn't entirely wrong. Cami was a main of mine in in Street Fighter IV. So, well, besides Balrog. And then number five is Celeste, which I just bought.
00:09:41
megadong
Which is kind of weird.
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Steve-O
That's interesting because that was the topic that is Tim chat. GBT.
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megadong
He might be a chat GPT guy.
00:09:48
megadong
And he just hides it.
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Steve-O
Because he did suggest that earlier today.
00:09:51
BeyBlade
Oh, did he? I missed that part.
00:09:52
Steve-O
he was he was suggesting it. So...
00:09:55
megadong
ah here i ah ah Last question. I'll ask what their entrance music is.
00:09:59
Steve-O
Oh, can we also find out Pym Mucus' favorite games as well?
00:10:01
billfrankenstein
I want to know what that guy likes.
00:10:02
megadong
Oh yeah. What are Pim Mugus's top five videos?
00:10:06
billfrankenstein
He's from Sue Larry.
00:10:08
billfrankenstein
Every chapter. You fucking weirdo.
00:10:15
megadong
What are Pym Mucus' top five video games?
00:10:18
megadong
Okay, here are Pym Mucus' is top five video games. One, Yakuza Zero. Pym adores this game. He calls it research. Drama, crime, money flying yeah money flying everywhere, men screaming in alleys.
00:10:32
megadong
Number two, Football Manager. Number three, GTA five 4, Hitman 3, 5, WWE 2K.
00:10:42
Steve-O
like how, like, a skeezy fin mucus has become.
00:10:45
BeyBlade
ah Wait, can I just say, I said, can you describe Pym Mucus to me, the fight promoter?
00:10:45
megadong
Yeah, he's such a bro, dude.
00:10:47
megadong
He's such a weird, like...
00:10:54
megadong
Oh, to chat GBT?
00:10:55
BeyBlade
Pym, the mucus mucus.
00:10:57
BeyBlade
um His catchphrase, his catchphrase, if it ain't messy, it ain't mucus.
00:10:59
billfrankenstein
Mewkins? That's, like, clever.
00:11:07
billfrankenstein
That's a good
00:11:09
billfrankenstein
That's a good one
00:11:11
megadong
Oh, here we go. If you want, I can also give you Pim Mewkus' favorite movies.
00:11:14
megadong
Nah, I don't need to know his favorite movies.
00:11:17
BeyBlade
Yo, if it ain't messy, it ain't mucus, man.
00:11:19
billfrankenstein
and millimeter. Irreversible. That's fast.
00:11:24
BeyBlade
Oh my goodness, guys.
00:11:27
Steve-O
Ask which of the hundred illnesses that Pym Mucus has will kill him eventually.
00:11:35
billfrankenstein
It just says cancer. Like, that's all the time it comes back.
00:11:37
Steve-O
Yeah, it's like, aww.
00:11:39
billfrankenstein
That's really sad.
00:11:41
megadong
It could even generate a full press conference transcript where he hypes up the Galantech-Oteros
Movie Critiques and Historical Fiction
00:11:47
megadong
fight. I don't need that.
00:11:48
megadong
I don't need all that.
00:11:48
Steve-O
No, we don't need that. We don't need that.
00:11:49
BeyBlade
and we We don't need that. see i'll tell you I'll tell you right now.
00:11:50
megadong
create a you create a video Create a movie about this.
00:11:51
billfrankenstein
Not yet. Not yet. Not yet. Not yet. Not yet.
00:11:57
BeyBlade
Sorry. i'm Jack GPT is creating my image of Pym Mucus. and I think it's better.
00:12:02
megadong
Oh, does it look similar to mine?
00:12:03
BeyBlade
i think it's better. now a little bit. A little similar.
00:12:07
BeyBlade
I'm sorry, Steve. I cut you off.
00:12:07
billfrankenstein
A little similar?
00:12:07
megadong
Well, remember, remember mine mine was like
00:12:11
megadong
My chat GPT is like, I was making it make pictures of absolute Batman in real life. So maybe I pull it from that.
00:12:22
megadong
Look at that ring.
00:12:23
billfrankenstein
He looks like a Saul Goodman thing going on.
00:12:24
Steve-O
What is that ring?
00:12:26
billfrankenstein
and I like it.
00:12:27
BeyBlade
Well, dude, if it ain't messy, it ain't mucus. Okay.
00:12:29
billfrankenstein
Yeah, that's crazy name.
00:12:29
megadong
if it ain't messy, it ain't mucus.
00:12:31
BeyBlade
Also, also, Pim the mucus mucus is insane in terms of, a and' I guess, is is it mucus mucus?
00:12:35
billfrankenstein
yeah had a crazy name
00:12:40
BeyBlade
Is that pronounced mucus?
00:12:44
billfrankenstein
Oh, yeah.
00:12:46
billfrankenstein
He's just tired of correcting people.
00:12:48
BeyBlade
Oh, man. Anyway.
00:12:51
BeyBlade
Hey, guys, ah real quick. I have ah i have a timestamp for you. One minute, 21 seconds.
00:12:51
billfrankenstein
Pin the mucus.
00:12:57
BeyBlade
Does anyone know what that means?
00:12:59
billfrankenstein
One minute. You literally you just saying a timestamp to us, trying to say if we understand what that comes from.
00:13:00
BeyBlade
Yeah. Timestamp. Yeah, I have a timestamp for you. you just Do you know what it might mean?
00:13:07
billfrankenstein
that what saying?
00:13:08
Steve-O
Is that a timestamp from last week's episode of something that you had?
00:13:12
BeyBlade
one minute, 20 seconds into the podcast is when I caught the first stray. From you, Chris.
00:13:20
billfrankenstein
Yeah, that was me, wasn't it?
00:13:20
BeyBlade
Yeah. I was listening and I was waiting.
00:13:21
billfrankenstein
It was Blowin' Bubba, right?
00:13:23
billfrankenstein
It was Blowin' Bubba?
00:13:24
BeyBlade
I was i was looking at my watch.
00:13:26
BeyBlade
Caught it. Hit the pause button.
00:13:27
Steve-O
Can you remind us what it was?
00:13:28
billfrankenstein
It was He was called Blowin' Bubba.
00:13:30
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah. it was It wasn't the Epstein. It was Blowing Bubba. Because Chris, thankfully, ah walked back to the Epstein.
00:13:36
BeyBlade
ah But I was Blowing Bubba. That's why I wasn't around. Yeah, that's why I wasn't around. Yeah.
00:13:47
billfrankenstein
You can't deny it
00:13:49
BeyBlade
I can't. I mean, I have no.
00:13:50
billfrankenstein
you Nothing you can do, you have any evidence against it, in my opinion.
00:13:54
BeyBlade
But ah no, sorry. So I wasn't blowing Bubba. o ah But I was I was unavailable. I'm back now, guys, though. So you're welcome. You're all welcome.
00:14:06
billfrankenstein
All right. I maybe believe you.
00:14:06
megadong
Yeah, you were blown, Bubba.
00:14:08
BeyBlade
Yeah, i was I was blowing some chicken wings in a fucking in a box.
00:14:12
BeyBlade
That's what I was doing.
00:14:13
billfrankenstein
On your knees.
00:14:13
megadong
Yeah, was a... Did they have popcorn this time?
00:14:15
BeyBlade
They did, and they they had chicken wings, and I ate all of them.
00:14:18
billfrankenstein
Was your mouth a canyon for the for the wings?
00:14:20
Steve-O
No, I think you need to, I think you need to describe this more. When you say you were in a box, you meant like you were at like a VIP box at a sports game.
00:14:27
BeyBlade
Yeah, we we were ah we were in a but we had ah a box at at a football game.
00:14:30
billfrankenstein
Oh, yes, you went to the You looked up at them.
00:14:31
megadong
Did somebody squeeze your... Did somebody squeeze your cheeks and hold your nose while you ate the chicken wings?
00:14:36
BeyBlade
yeah I was a valley to their canyon or or whatever it was. um yeah You know what's funny, though?
00:14:43
BeyBlade
is um so the you know I'll be vague, purposefully vague, but um we were at ah somebody who is rich enough to have a nice, fancy ah private box at ah at a football game.
00:15:00
BeyBlade
And this guy walks in. hey you Not part of the group. Walks in in ah in a blue suit, sits down next to He goes, hey, how's it going?
00:15:11
BeyBlade
And I'm like, let's go. and i right This guy is not part of the group that is in the booth already. goes, hey, is so-and-so around? Like the guy who owns the booth? And I'm like, nah, dude. And he's like, okay. And he just leaves. And I'm like, that clearly, he clearly was like,
00:15:32
BeyBlade
Their neighbor, their like booth neighbor or whatever, who was probably just looking to talk a fancy schmancy business with this guy.
00:15:40
BeyBlade
And I was like, dude, you're talking to... I don't even work here, dude. um I'm the plus one, my guy.
00:15:40
billfrankenstein
Oh, interesting.
00:15:47
megadong
You're talking to Pim the Mucus Mucus here.
00:15:48
BeyBlade
you fucking to You may as well be talking to Pim Mucous right now.
00:15:48
billfrankenstein
probably you probably would
00:15:51
billfrankenstein
you probably went to security after he talked to you.
00:15:54
billfrankenstein
Just to double check.
00:15:55
BeyBlade
but like no But, dude, it was like it was like that douchey boss confidence, right? Where just says... Nice game, huh? And I'm like, ah yeah, I guess. Like, who the fuck are you, dude?
00:16:07
BeyBlade
um That type of energy. And then i i may I guess it's not like I made him feel awkward enough that he left.
00:16:15
BeyBlade
Clearly, the guy he wanted to talk to wasn't there. But I was like, ew, that was so creepy. And then... We stayed until the very end, and I took all the wings home like ah like a poor boy.
00:16:29
BeyBlade
i was like, oh, I'm getting a to-go box, and I'm putting the rest of these wings that no one's going to eat in here. And I i definitely...
00:16:36
megadong
Where were the wings? Where were the wings from? Or was it just in the kitchen?
00:16:40
BeyBlade
I don't know. I think they were just like fucking... Yeah, they were just like in the the the kitchen. they They weren't like fancy or anything. Trust me, my body reacted like I ate.
00:16:53
BeyBlade
like mid-tier fire wings.
00:16:54
billfrankenstein
Pure flame.
00:16:56
BeyBlade
My body was hurting for a few days. going to lie.
00:17:01
billfrankenstein
Shooting fire.
00:17:01
BeyBlade
My tummy hurts. but But yeah, you know, listen, i I'll be honest.
00:17:05
billfrankenstein
Fire and fire.
00:17:09
BeyBlade
I tried to get Chris in. I tried to. was like, he he deserves it. He's had a rough week.
00:17:16
billfrankenstein
It's fine.
00:17:16
BeyBlade
ah And then, well, you know, yeah, I'm sure.
00:17:19
billfrankenstein
I'm fine.
00:17:22
billfrankenstein
Oh, I got my car back. By the way.
00:17:23
BeyBlade
Oh, well, you got ah
00:17:26
megadong
they Did they fix it? They fixed it all?
00:17:28
billfrankenstein
It was detailed.
00:17:28
megadong
Is it all fixed?
00:17:30
billfrankenstein
Got a new tire. Got a new steering column. it's I have a club now.
00:17:35
megadong
covered by Covered by insurance? Everything was covered by insurance?
00:17:38
billfrankenstein
I had to pay 500 bucks for a copay for a deductible.
00:17:40
megadong
Yeah, the deductible? That's lame.
00:17:43
billfrankenstein
Yeah, but it was a $6,300 repair.
00:17:43
megadong
They made you pay the copay. and
00:17:48
BeyBlade
Oh, yeah, she's.
00:17:49
billfrankenstein
That was quoted to me.
00:17:50
Steve-O
That's impressive.
00:17:51
megadong
tra You trading that bad boy in now? You getting a fucking...
00:17:53
billfrankenstein
Fuck no! I have 10 more payments.
00:17:56
billfrankenstein
No, not even. Four more payments left on this car.
00:17:59
megadong
Oh, yeah, and then...
00:18:01
megadong
How many miles are on it?
00:18:01
Steve-O
Four more and the club. You're in, dude.
00:18:04
billfrankenstein
I have 35,000 miles on this car.
00:18:07
billfrankenstein
i am keeping it
00:18:07
megadong
Really? That's it?
00:18:09
billfrankenstein
till forever is like hard.
00:18:10
megadong
Dude, you can... That's basically a new car still.
00:18:13
billfrankenstein
I know! It's because I bought it before COVID and then I didn't drive it for two years.
00:18:18
megadong
And then you didn't drive it for three years, probably. yeah
00:18:22
billfrankenstein
Yeah, man.
00:18:24
billfrankenstein
Paid it off. That's why I was upset, to say the least, about it being stolen.
00:18:31
megadong
Right, because you're almost there.
00:18:33
billfrankenstein
But I got it back, so I'm somewhat happier now.
00:18:39
billfrankenstein
Still really sucks, though.
00:18:42
billfrankenstein
Getting your car stolen is not a great experience.
00:18:46
Steve-O
Better your car than your house.
00:18:48
billfrankenstein
Better my house than my fucking submarine.
00:18:55
billfrankenstein
Yeah, dude, of course I do.
00:18:55
BeyBlade
Yeah, well, he had one until somebody stole it.
00:18:58
megadong
so That's still crazy that your car got stolen.
00:18:58
billfrankenstein
Gone! Went to the dock, wasn't it there!
00:19:01
Steve-O
That is wild. That is absolutely wild.
00:19:03
billfrankenstein
It was such a strange experience waking up and walking to my car to go to work and it just not being there. I thought I moved it and I forgot.
00:19:08
BeyBlade
and I was going to say, like, how long did it take you to come to the realization, oh, somebody, like, stole it?
00:19:16
megadong
Yeah, what was your first thought? Was it like, did it get repoed or something for some reason?
00:19:19
billfrankenstein
I did that thing.
00:19:19
megadong
Or did it get towed?
00:19:21
billfrankenstein
Remember that thing in Bad Boys 2? where like Martin Lawrence gets off the phone and he's like, slowly lowers it down. And he's like, this shit just got real. And like, um he's just staring around at nothing.
00:19:33
billfrankenstein
Like that's spinning around me.
00:19:34
megadong
And the camera's like going in circles around him? Yeah.
00:19:37
billfrankenstein
Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's what it was. It took about a minute where I like reasoned in my brain, like I didn't move it. Maybe my mom did or my father, they would have told me.
00:19:50
billfrankenstein
And then but but but but but did it get repossessed? I paid it. This was all within about a minute. And then after that minute, I was like, it got stolen.
00:20:02
billfrankenstein
So, and I saw the broken handle on the on the ground as I was walking up.
00:20:09
billfrankenstein
So put two and two together.
00:20:12
BeyBlade
yeah. i I had a kind of sort of stolen car story, but that was like my dad called me. He's like, hey, how far away are you?
00:20:24
BeyBlade
And I'm like, what are what are you talking about? I'm still at home. He's like, your car's not there. and I was like, what? why Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:20:31
billfrankenstein
Oh, I think I remember this, Devin.
00:20:32
megadong
Yeah, I remember this.
00:20:34
billfrankenstein
And I think I was part, I was looking myself for a bit.
00:20:38
billfrankenstein
Me and my mom.
00:20:39
BeyBlade
So it wasn't quite, ah it was a joyride situation, but i did get it back unharmed.
00:20:44
billfrankenstein
Yeah, kind of still pretty much the same. I think you had a little less damage to your car, though.
00:20:46
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, I mean, no, he, he yeah, my keys were taken. So nobody had to like break anything, thankfully.
00:20:56
billfrankenstein
Actually, the flat tire kind of saved my car.
00:20:59
BeyBlade
That's, yeah, right. That's, that's what I hear.
00:21:02
billfrankenstein
Because there was a nail in the tire. And I was like, help.
00:21:06
megadong
yeah and you would you would add Yeah, you would have to pay a lot more $500 for new tires at that point, too.
00:21:11
billfrankenstein
I think I'm going to get new tires anyway.
00:21:13
billfrankenstein
Because they're looking a little rough. um
00:21:17
megadong
Did they fix the tire or did they replace the one tire?
00:21:17
billfrankenstein
But yeah. Complete complete replace. new Brand new tire.
00:21:21
megadong
is it just Is it just the one? So what you have one one new tire?
00:21:25
billfrankenstein
Just the one.
00:21:27
billfrankenstein
Yeah, that's why I think I need to get three new ones, because that's probably not great for my suspension or anything like that.
00:21:34
billfrankenstein
i need to
00:21:35
billfrankenstein
need to all be freshies. um But yeah, I don't mind that, because was going to get the car detailed after I was done paying it off anyway, like and cleaned.
00:21:48
billfrankenstein
Because now I own it. It's mine. No longer the bank's. So... It's just a cool feeling. I'm happy about that. you know I guess that that kind of tempered the whole experience.
00:22:00
megadong
Yeah, that sucks. Because you only have like a four four more months left or whatever and then get stolen.
00:22:03
billfrankenstein
The fact that I got it back and now i have you know still have only three months left. It's it's better now. you made It lessened the blow quite a bit.
00:22:15
billfrankenstein
um But yeah, that's hell of an experience. Didn't expect it outside of my house. that's That's still troubling.
00:22:23
BeyBlade
yeah and uh like not to not to like get too cute about it but like you don't live in a ah shady area you know not that i not that i i would have thought i suppose
00:22:32
billfrankenstein
No, not at all.
00:22:35
billfrankenstein
No. I think it was a rash of car thefts too. i think there were 15 other cars stolen that night and none of the other ones were recoverable.
00:22:46
billfrankenstein
So, again, save the whole car.
00:22:46
megadong
Oh, so your flat tire may have saved the car.
00:22:50
billfrankenstein
Strange.
00:22:52
BeyBlade
Dude, you know what? You just killed Nicolas Cage.
00:22:54
BeyBlade
He was trying to gone in 60 seconds to save his his life, and then he couldn't get one of the cars, so they had to kill him.
00:23:00
Steve-O
He had a lot of DVD players.
00:23:04
billfrankenstein
it was the cursed car the Stratus not the Stratus the Elantra the Elantra was cursed you stole Chris Galantia
00:23:11
megadong
Yeah, yours is the, yours, your car is the one that Theon Greyjoy stole and John Luizamo fucking slapped him in the garage.
00:23:15
BeyBlade
yeah Yo, is that a...
00:23:20
BeyBlade
Is Gone in 60 Seconds good?
00:23:20
megadong
You stole Chris Galani's car.
00:23:21
BeyBlade
Is that considered a a good movie? A fun movie, maybe?
00:23:25
megadong
It's solid, right? It's a good, solid whatever.
00:23:27
BeyBlade
It's been, I saw it once years and years and years ago.
00:23:31
billfrankenstein
What are you about?
00:23:32
BeyBlade
Gone in 60 Seconds.
00:23:32
Steve-O
Gone in 60 seconds.
00:23:37
billfrankenstein
You will. We would laugh nonstop watching that now.
00:23:40
BeyBlade
Yeah, so, yeah, that's good.
00:23:42
billfrankenstein
I think, personally. Because it's very dated.
00:23:45
Steve-O
has ah Has a three-star average on Letterboxd.
00:23:51
BeyBlade
Can you look up ah Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter?
00:23:51
billfrankenstein
It is some...
00:23:54
BeyBlade
You can look up the average for that because that would get zero stars from me.
00:23:59
billfrankenstein
That stole your time, right?
00:23:59
BeyBlade
That's a terrible movie.
00:24:01
billfrankenstein
That stole your time.
00:24:03
megadong
Was it, was it gone in 60 seconds or the rock where Nicholas Cage is talking about buying that Beatles white album vinyl, which movie was that the rock way better movie.
00:24:11
billfrankenstein
the That's The Rock. A much better movie.
00:24:15
BeyBlade
Dude, The Rock Rules...
00:24:16
billfrankenstein
Yeah, that movie's fucking great.
00:24:17
BeyBlade
The movie slaps. And it's kind of one those movies where you're like, the villain makes a lot of good points. And you're like, hold on.
00:24:26
billfrankenstein
Ed Harris is amazing in that movie.
00:24:28
BeyBlade
Yeah. But no, dude, I was like, I was just bored one night and I just kind of, so I didn't really, because obviously i wasn't here last week, but I beat Claire Obscure. we don't have to get into that details. I really like it.
00:24:44
BeyBlade
Really, really liked it. um But I've had that kind of like post game depression a little bit where, I'm like, pick up a game. It's fine. you know, kind of lose interest. Pick up another game. It's fine. Kind of lose interest. So I've been firing up movies.
00:25:01
BeyBlade
And then for whatever reason, Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter was staring directly in my face. And I was like, I remember John years ago.
00:25:10
BeyBlade
You saw that in theaters?
00:25:13
megadong
Yeah, I was interested in seeing it, and then halfway through the movie, I'm like, this isn't fun.
00:25:19
megadong
like this is like like ah It's like they it's like they made um they tried to make a historical, like accurate depiction of abraham abraham Abraham Lincoln, but they just made him a vampire hunter and made it a serious movie.
00:25:33
billfrankenstein
It wasn't like tongue in cheek.
00:25:34
billfrankenstein
There was a fun little moves.
00:25:34
BeyBlade
Dude, it is... And like like, I mean, I kind of, well, that was the thing, right? I was like, I remember, john John said it was like, okay, obviously took itself way too seriously.
00:25:35
megadong
Yeah, it wasn't fun.
00:25:40
billfrankenstein
It took itself too serious.
00:25:46
BeyBlade
The movie came out in 2012, starring a lead actor that you'll be like, oh, I've never i've never heard of them.
00:25:50
megadong
Who did I see this with?
00:25:54
billfrankenstein
Yeah, where'd that guy go?
00:25:54
BeyBlade
um ah Anthony Mackie's in it. Mary Elizabeth Weinstead's in it. Dominic Cooper's in it.
00:26:02
BeyBlade
um Jimmy Simpson's in it.
00:26:06
Steve-O
Alan Tudyk, apparently.
00:26:07
BeyBlade
Alan Tudyk's in it, dude. Like this cast isn't terrible.
00:26:11
Steve-O
i i think John telling people that this movie wasn't fun destroyed this movie's hype.
00:26:12
BeyBlade
um no this movie being absolute dog shit.
00:26:19
Steve-O
Because I remember thinking...
00:26:19
megadong
Yeah, I think i think yeah we were we were interested in it it. I think we were all interested in it, and then I went to see it first, and i was like, you don't see it.
00:26:26
BeyBlade
because it's based off of a, it's based off a graphic novel, right? I'm pretty sure. um
00:26:27
megadong
It's too serious.
00:26:35
megadong
No, it's a novel.
00:26:35
billfrankenstein
benjamin Benjamin Walker looks like a lesser version of the new Superman.
00:26:41
BeyBlade
Yeah, dude, dude.
00:26:43
megadong
Oh, he's Diet Sweat.
00:26:45
billfrankenstein
hate corn sweat. Yeah, dude.
00:26:46
BeyBlade
I will say one of one of the few one of the few highlights is, I'd imagine this is one of ah Mary Elizabeth Weinstein's first movies.
00:26:46
Steve-O
He's the Kirkland kiland brand.
00:26:58
BeyBlade
ah You can tell she's good. You can tell she's talented ah like pretty much pretty early on
00:27:04
billfrankenstein
um Excuse me.
00:27:06
megadong
I'm making... Yeah, and
00:27:07
billfrankenstein
Her first movie was Step Up 2, Devin, which I watched parts of it.
00:27:10
BeyBlade
What year? What year was that?
00:27:12
billfrankenstein
i don't know.
00:27:13
BeyBlade
Yeah, why is that?
00:27:13
Steve-O
Devin, this movie came out 2012. So Scott Pilgrim came out before this.
00:27:19
BeyBlade
Okay, maybe she's...
00:27:20
BeyBlade
supposed present Well, listen, she's clearly the best actor in this movie.
00:27:22
megadong
And Death Proof.
00:27:24
billfrankenstein
Step Up 2, 2008, Devin.
00:27:26
megadong
I only... ah just remember her...
00:27:27
BeyBlade
All right, my bad, my bad.
00:27:29
megadong
I just remember her from... I think the first time seeing her... Like that was like death proof. I think I was like, Oh, she's good.
00:27:38
megadong
She's a good actor.
00:27:40
BeyBlade
No, no, that's what I mean. she's She's real smart in that movie, right? No, she's like acting circles around ah Benjamin Walker, the lead actor in this movie.
00:27:51
BeyBlade
You know, it's just like, okay. But dude, like, John, this movie is atrocious. Like, I was like almost, I was irritated with you.
00:28:01
megadong
You thought, you thought that I told you guys that was good.
00:28:03
BeyBlade
but you said You said it's okay.
00:28:06
BeyBlade
It just took itself too seriously. You're like, it's not bad. like That was my memory of it. And I was like, this movie is fucking horrible. like Why did John even not just say this is well the word this is one of the worst movies I've seen?
00:28:17
megadong
I'm sorry, did I tell you guys to watch it a theater or did I tell you not to watch it? I remember telling you guys don't watch it.
00:28:20
BeyBlade
Listen, listen. I'm sitting there Tuesday night at one in the morning even working myself up.
00:28:25
megadong
You're just like getting mad at me. Like, what the fuck?
00:28:26
Steve-O
He wasn't mean enough about it
00:28:29
BeyBlade
getting Frankly, yes, so that's exactly. like
00:28:33
megadong
I'm sorry, but if i if I said, you know, if I actually said that it was watchable, then you guys probably you guys probably would have watched it back in 2012 when i did
00:28:37
BeyBlade
Listen, John, I'm not sayinging it's i'm not saying it's logical. I'm not saying it's sensible. But I'm sitting there just like, this fuck why didn't you fucking tell me how bad this movie was?
00:28:47
megadong
This motherfucker. What the fuck?
00:28:49
BeyBlade
You just said it was okay. Like, not bad, but took itself. This movie's fucking dark. Like, this movie's literally one of the worst movies I've seen all year.
00:28:57
megadong
I I don't know. Pull it the receipts, but I remember saying that it wasn't good because it took itself too seriously.
00:29:03
BeyBlade
No, it's not good because it's terrible. On top of, yeah, it's just, man.
00:29:04
megadong
I think that's what I said.
00:29:11
Steve-O
Has a 2.5 average on Letterboxd.
00:29:13
BeyBlade
That's too high, dude.
00:29:15
BeyBlade
That is, this is a one-star movie, dude.
00:29:15
Steve-O
and this's This review says this movie is like Sinners if it was also Pirates of the Caribbean but also National Treasure.
00:29:22
BeyBlade
No, no, that's awful, dude.
00:29:24
billfrankenstein
rough. That's a lot, dude.
00:29:25
Steve-O
Three stars. Three stars.
00:29:27
megadong
Oh, man. That's...
00:29:28
billfrankenstein
why dude
00:29:29
megadong
Yeah, that's a lot of... ah That's a lot of Krevin Galantex in just one one movie there.
00:29:35
BeyBlade
Yeah, dude, yeah, I'm, Krevin, Krevin's just doing, he's lifting weights watching this movie, getting mad, getting mad at it.
00:29:40
megadong
He loves that movie, dude.
00:29:42
BeyBlade
Nah, dude, this movie is,
00:29:42
Steve-O
this that's This is the review from Bubble Star Swirly Sign Heart.
00:29:47
BeyBlade
well, that person's a fool.
00:29:47
billfrankenstein
Yeah, that sounds about right.
00:29:47
billfrankenstein
he's down He sounds very notable.
00:29:50
Steve-O
Favorite films? The Crow, Jurassic Park, House of Wax, American Mary.
00:29:55
billfrankenstein
I love the crow.
00:29:55
BeyBlade
and And then, you know, my dumb ass, now i'm like, oh is Joshua Speed a real person played by Jimmy Simpson from Westworld fame? but What the fuck? Why is this fucking guy real? Like, oh my God, dude.
00:30:08
BeyBlade
Terrible movie. Absolutely garbage. um
00:30:13
Steve-O
We all know Jimmy Simpson.
00:30:14
BeyBlade
yeah Yeah. You know, Jimmy Simpson of Westworld fame.
00:30:18
BeyBlade
Everybody thought he was going to blow up a little bit more than he did.
00:30:22
Steve-O
yeah yeah, that's the thing. It's like he was in a Always Sunny.
00:30:26
BeyBlade
and he yeah he's great He's great in that. He's great in that and then just kind of...
00:30:26
Steve-O
And the Westworld happened.
00:30:30
Steve-O
He's great. It's just it's too unique a face. Like once you're in something, you're always that face is too unique.
00:30:38
BeyBlade
Well, a vampire ate him. And then I had to Google him in real life to see if a vampire ate him.
00:30:45
Steve-O
you do Do you do a lot of Googling when you watch movies like this at home?
00:30:49
BeyBlade
When it's like... Yeah. In this case, I did.
00:30:53
billfrankenstein
When it's just bad, right?
00:30:55
BeyBlade
ah well That and also just like, wait, because it's, you know, because like John said, it it took itself too seriously.
00:30:56
billfrankenstein
You're like desperate.
00:31:03
BeyBlade
So i was like, I don't think, yeah, like John said, it's one of the best movies you've seen all year.
00:31:03
megadong
It was really good.
00:31:04
megadong
was really good. It was amazing. It was a good sit.
00:31:08
megadong
It was a good sit.
00:31:10
BeyBlade
No, but like, because I'm like, these are clearly real people. So like, what the what the fuck? And then, um yeah. Death and legacy.
00:31:21
megadong
but here Here's a question. Here's a question. Did the book, did the novel that it was based on get good reviews?
00:31:29
megadong
or is just Or is this just another...
00:31:30
billfrankenstein
I remember it being very popular when he came out.
00:31:32
Steve-O
um noticeing I'm noticing...
00:31:32
megadong
Or is this ah is this like another case of like Hollywood just making whatever's trending at the time for just to make a quick buck?
00:31:40
Steve-O
ah a lot of the five-star reviews on this movie are from people with like very specific names. It's people like Pink Princess, I Love Twilight.
00:31:51
Steve-O
It might have been leaning into that Twilight crowd.
00:31:54
BeyBlade
Was Twilight even a movie then?
00:31:57
BeyBlade
Is there book in 2012?
00:31:58
megadong
Yeah, back then.
00:32:02
megadong
why Twilight, the first Twilight came out in 2008.
00:32:05
megadong
So this is, the last one is 2012.
00:32:07
megadong
So this is like, this was probably like trying to take the torch from them and go forward.
00:32:09
BeyBlade
Yo, dude. Dude, my clock is all mixed up, man.
00:32:14
Steve-O
were they trying Were they trying to make Abraham Lincoln the next sex symbol?
00:32:19
billfrankenstein
Oh yeah, I think that was part of it, right?
00:32:19
BeyBlade
No, because he he gets he turns into a 60-year-old man midway through midway through the movie. He's like the president and old.
00:32:28
Steve-O
I think that happened in Twilight too, right? Didn't that happen?
00:32:30
BeyBlade
ah Yeah, he turns into Abe Lincoln. Dude,
00:32:30
billfrankenstein
Yeah, he turned at any point and dago they go turn it there you blaking into and make just as much sense for fucking Twilight.
00:32:35
Steve-O
He's being really good Abe Lincoln though. like I guarantee it to you
00:32:36
megadong
Taylor Lautner, Taylor Lautner marries a baby at the end of the series.
00:32:40
megadong
So that's all I remember of it.
00:32:41
Steve-O
Oh, that's so weird.
00:32:41
BeyBlade
Yeah. And then you two might have a co-worker that will actually defend that.
00:32:47
BeyBlade
No, actually, it's as known as it's the imprint.
00:32:48
billfrankenstein
Of course.
00:32:50
megadong
I'm trying to remember why I'm trying to remember why I saw this movie in the theaters and, and who I went with.
00:32:51
BeyBlade
The imprint on them.
00:32:54
BeyBlade
Yeah, like that was the thing. i was You just saw it in the theater.
00:32:57
megadong
Cause if I, cause I, if this was 2012, like usually I was just seeing movies with you guys, like a movie like that.
00:33:03
billfrankenstein
I think we were all kind hype into thinking this was going to be like a Blade movie.
00:33:04
BeyBlade
Were you... were were you ah John, my my my ah timeline, my John Suarez timeline mixed up.
00:33:09
billfrankenstein
I think that's where we kind of fell on.
00:33:12
BeyBlade
Were you dating at this time? like Do you think he went on like a date and saw this?
00:33:15
megadong
That was the what I like to call the dark ages, where it was well where it was between like years several years between serious relationships.
00:33:18
BeyBlade
Okay, okay, so this is Dark Ages. Right,
00:33:24
BeyBlade
right, right. Yeah, no, that's what I mean. That's what I mean, because I was like...
00:33:26
megadong
but i don't think I don't know if I went on... No, because the one date that I went with that I like to tell the story of was that fucking... The ah the Elizabeth Olsen movie that you told me not to go on a date to see.
00:33:36
BeyBlade
Yeah. I saw it, like, earlier that day, and I was like, hey, could you, like, cancel your plans?
00:33:40
megadong
You're like, this is not a date movie.
00:33:42
billfrankenstein
Girl in the House. What was that called?
00:33:45
megadong
What the fuck was it the fuck was that movie called?
00:33:48
billfrankenstein
Something about the house, right?
00:33:48
Steve-O
It was a house movie. It was like a a creepy old house movie.
00:33:50
billfrankenstein
It was one of those house movies that came out.
00:33:51
BeyBlade
Silent House, it was called.
00:33:53
billfrankenstein
so i have
00:33:53
BeyBlade
Yeah, Silent House.
00:33:54
billfrankenstein
There were so many house movies that came out that I'd be really
00:33:55
BeyBlade
Yeah, listen. excellent
00:33:57
megadong
nada that day that
00:33:58
BeyBlade
But it was a one-shot.
00:33:59
BeyBlade
It was a one-shot movie.
00:34:01
megadong
that That date was a one shot because she fucking brought up lask she brought a flask in and asked if I wanted some shit in my soda.
00:34:10
megadong
I'm like, no. No.
00:34:11
BeyBlade
no i just I was just going to put Coca-Cola in here.
00:34:13
megadong
I know. I'm here to watch Kino.
00:34:16
megadong
here to here to add I'm here to psychoanalyze this film that we're about to partake in observing together.
00:34:16
Steve-O
I'm here for Queen Mary.
00:34:20
BeyBlade
Yeah. you know You know what I ended up doing a lot of Googling during? um The last two episodes of the Ed Gein show.
00:34:31
BeyBlade
Because I was like...
00:34:32
megadong
i didn't even ah i didn't get past the first episode.
00:34:34
megadong
I still haven't finished that.
00:34:34
BeyBlade
Listen, listen. It was kind of one of those shows...
00:34:36
megadong
It's not worth it.
00:34:37
BeyBlade
Listen, I'm not going to... I don't want to throw too much shade. It was one of the shows I was like coerced into watching. Right? it was like ah It was a cup Jenny wanted to watch it.
00:34:45
megadong
Oh, you were Ted Bundied into watching an Ed Gein show.
00:34:47
BeyBlade
Yeah, I was Ted Bonding into it.
00:34:50
BeyBlade
No, so ah without, because honestly, it does not deserve any sort of like conversation. But without getting too into the weeds about it, um there's a lot of serious events that I was like, is this true?
00:35:07
BeyBlade
and it's not like at all, at all. It's it's just blatant lies.
00:35:12
megadong
Well, like that first episode, they dramatized that whole like comic book Nazi dominatrix.
00:35:17
BeyBlade
Yeah, but this wasn't even drama cut.
00:35:18
megadong
that kind of That kind of turned me off. That kind of turned me off the whole thing.
00:35:20
BeyBlade
Yeah, but this was also like โ it was a weird attempt to so make you sympathize with Ed Gein by making him be like the pivotal guy that helped catch Ted Bundy.
00:35:27
megadong
Yeah, that's what Chris was saying.
00:35:30
BeyBlade
And you're like, โ
00:35:32
BeyBlade
What, he met with the Mindhunter guys and they caught Ted Bundy because of this? No, not at all. Didn't happen. And I'm like, what? what Why? And I mean, listen, I know the the short answer to all of these questions is, oh, it's just Ryan Murphy.
00:35:47
BeyBlade
Like, he's he's just the fucking, that's him. But I was Googling. I was just mad that I had to Google this shit.
00:35:55
BeyBlade
I'm like, did Ed Gein help catch Ted Bundy?
00:35:55
billfrankenstein
um my My whole thing about
00:35:57
billfrankenstein
that show is it wasn't really about Ed Gein.
00:36:01
billfrankenstein
Like, it was about, it was about, like, people that watch shows about Ed Gein and movies like Psycho.
00:36:01
BeyBlade
Not really, no. There were just...
00:36:07
BeyBlade
Yeah, because it wasn't ah it wasn't interesting. Or it wasn't there wasn't enough content to make a whole thing, so they had to burn like two or three episodes of like an eight-episode show on, like, ah Psycho, the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and you're like...
00:36:14
billfrankenstein
Yes. Yep.
00:36:20
billfrankenstein
Make about Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
00:36:25
BeyBlade
Oh, okay. Or him catching Ted Bundy, which never happened.
Samurai Show and Anime Discussion
00:36:29
BeyBlade
Just fucking insane, dude. Insane.
00:36:32
billfrankenstein
yeah it was nuts I don't know what I got you
00:36:32
BeyBlade
ah Yeah. And speaking of stretching, good grief. I saw right before, like two hours before I jumped on, I saw ah Wicket for good.
00:36:47
megadong
Oh shit, you saw it?
00:36:48
billfrankenstein
did really what'd you think
00:36:49
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah, i wanted to. Packed house. ah
00:36:54
megadong
Was everyone singing?
00:36:54
BeyBlade
It's No, but there's this couple next to us and specifically the one girl was fucking fired up ah because there's one banger. There is one like definitive banger. That's all like the back end of the the soundtrack and of the show and stuff like that. um And it's good. It's good. But that movie's ah it's bad.
00:37:18
BeyBlade
It's a bad movie.
00:37:19
billfrankenstein
No shit.
00:37:20
BeyBlade
Yeah. So the problem Okay.
00:37:22
megadong
was it better on Was it better than Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter?
00:37:26
BeyBlade
It was, but I was like, this is...
00:37:29
billfrankenstein
Not by much.
00:37:30
Steve-O
Did you see the first one?
00:37:31
BeyBlade
Yeah, I saw the first loved the first one. Loved the first one.
00:37:34
Steve-O
Oh, is this like an it?
00:37:34
billfrankenstein
Yeah, I quite like it.
00:37:34
megadong
That'd be That'd probably diabolical if Devin just went to see the second one without the first one.
00:37:39
Steve-O
Yeah, just would go in. Is this like an it part two situation?
00:37:40
BeyBlade
Hate it. of No, not quite. i mean, it it is in the sense of like, I think the second one is infinitely worse, but this was more like...
00:37:51
BeyBlade
Because it there's a reason, there's like there's a clear delineation for why the split is where the split is. Like, oh, they're kids and now they're adults.
00:38:01
BeyBlade
um It makes sense to to cut it up that way. This is very much a like Hobbit split into three movies situation where like there's not enough content for two movies.
00:38:15
BeyBlade
And so they're just stretching out the material. like And like, so I'll be honest, like, I feel like 70% of like the play is in the first movie. And then you have to fill up another two and a half hours on the back end for the sequel or quote sequel. And there's a clear decision they could have made, but they didn't do it. And I think while that might make sense in the sense of like, if you're making a play about it,
00:38:46
BeyBlade
ah it doesn't make any sense in terms of like cinematic. To me, it doesn't land at all. And the big thing is that Dorothy is in it, right?
00:39:00
BeyBlade
And they just they just kind of... They're there. They're just in the background. Things are happening and they're just walking around and you never see their faces. Or you see some of their faces, but like not Dorothy. Like they're not really functional characters.
00:39:15
BeyBlade
And instead of using that time, the extra like runtime, that is this amount of story versus like how much movie there is. ah It's just like lots of plots about.
00:39:28
BeyBlade
ah Glinda being concerned that she might be being used as like a puppet, you know, ah or there's more concern that i the the other teacher might not be such a swell character. And it's like all things that you knew already. And then they just repeat. There's like repeated scenes two or three times ah in this where they're just like just going over the same stuff. And like none of it's really all that interesting.
00:39:57
billfrankenstein
That's kind of, that sucks. Because, you know, I as well liked the first one quite a bit.
00:40:01
billfrankenstein
But there was that lingering bit where i I didn't like the fact that they split it up into two movies. Like, that was still pretty present in the first movie.
00:40:11
billfrankenstein
Like, I don't know why they did it first place.
00:40:11
BeyBlade
Yeah. Well, because the first movie is longer than the play itself.
00:40:16
billfrankenstein
Yeah, I know.
00:40:17
billfrankenstein
I i remember i remember that.
00:40:17
BeyBlade
And and the um I mean, listen, it's it's just for money.
00:40:21
BeyBlade
Right. That's the only reason, because you could have made a two hour, 48 minute movie. One movie, you could have made the whole story in one movie, and I think it would have killed, would have crushed, would have been, you know, whatever.
00:40:35
BeyBlade
And all of the decisions that they make in the play would have made sense in the movie.
00:40:36
billfrankenstein
probably would have been a classic
00:40:40
BeyBlade
But if you're going to, and maybe they change some things. i'm not you know, I'm not intimately familiar with with how the plot was, but... It's just, yeah, it's just like, well, what are we going to do with all this extra time? Well, let's just kind of repeat scenes as opposed to do something with, ah frankly, what is seen as kind of a big critique of the original work, which is like, yeah, Dorothy's there, but she's not really a factor. And again, if you're going to do that in in the play, I can understand it. But like Dorothy, Tin Man, all that stuff, they're such a...
00:41:18
BeyBlade
it's such an iconic thing in the world of film that it's super weird that they just bypass the whole thing, uh, in movie.
00:41:30
BeyBlade
And, uh, and then like, and even then there's, yeah, like you do see Tin Man, you do see the, a little bit of a, the cowardly line, but like it's, it's,
00:41:33
billfrankenstein
kind of cowardly. It's little cowardly.
00:41:42
BeyBlade
yeah, it's really strange. And also just like things just happen. Like again, there's all this space and time. and then we're just like jumping around and it feels really cut up at the same time.
00:41:54
BeyBlade
It's yeah, it's this no, it's yeah. It's just like, okay.
00:41:54
billfrankenstein
little Game of Thrones movement.
00:42:01
billfrankenstein
You don't know why characters get to where they are at some point.
00:42:02
BeyBlade
So, so this is a spoilers, right? Spoilers for wizard of Oz plot points, but, uh, the The witch's sister, who's in a wheelchair, turns out to be kind of a piece of shit.
00:42:18
BeyBlade
Right? Because of...
00:42:20
megadong
I mean, they hinted at that in the in the first movie.
00:42:21
billfrankenstein
Yeah, I think I remember that.
00:42:22
BeyBlade
Yeah, but she's like... she's like ah It's like a 180. She's a huge piece of shit. and then ah And then, like, there's the scene where the house is supposed to drop on her.
00:42:33
BeyBlade
You don't see any of it. You just see... The next โ you see tornadoes and then the next scene is Glinda being like, all right, bye Just follow the road as she's talking to Dorothy off screen.
00:42:47
BeyBlade
And then they โ like you don't see the house fall. It's just like the set piece is there and then they just kind of keep going. And it's โ I don't know, man. It's it's just not good.
00:42:59
BeyBlade
It's just frankly ah not a good movie. Which a shame. Because ah it's not like the music isn't good. But it's just not really... It's not worth it, I don't think.
00:43:09
billfrankenstein
Would you say wicked dot dot dot is bad?
00:43:13
BeyBlade
Wicked um for shit, I would say. ah it's ah It's a kill. I'd say this is a kill, for sure.
00:43:23
billfrankenstein
Damn, that sucks, man. That's a real kick in the pants.
00:43:25
BeyBlade
I know. It bummed me out, man. I was ah i was ah i was not thrilled. But...
00:43:33
billfrankenstein
There's like a few movies I am looking...
00:43:34
billfrankenstein
i don't even know if there are any movies i'm looking forward to now at the end of the year.
00:43:37
BeyBlade
There's probably one or two. Yeah, but...
00:43:40
billfrankenstein
There's one in Christmas, I know.
00:43:40
megadong
The Korean one. The
00:43:44
billfrankenstein
Which one is that? The Renna Family movie with Brendan Fraser?
00:43:45
BeyBlade
You know, the Korean... No, no.
00:43:48
BeyBlade
Oh, the one by ah the guy that did Oldboy, the new Oldboy movie?
00:43:50
billfrankenstein
Oh, bite by Park Chan-Wook?
00:43:53
megadong
By Chan-wook. Yeah.
00:43:56
billfrankenstein
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:43:58
billfrankenstein
You're right. That does look good. I mean, were you going to be able to see that this year, though?
00:43:59
BeyBlade
You're right, you're right.
00:44:02
BeyBlade
Yeah, I might not
00:44:03
megadong
I thought we were seen on Christmas.
00:44:04
billfrankenstein
It is coming out on Christmas?
00:44:06
megadong
No other choice.
00:44:06
BeyBlade
Well, it's I think it's like limited limited release, so we might we might get it on Christmas.
00:44:07
billfrankenstein
No other choice.
00:44:10
megadong
why this might be conversation for after we stop recording, but are we are we trying to see Kill Bill?
00:44:12
BeyBlade
Oh, Chris, come on, Avatar! Avatar, dude! Yeah.
00:44:17
megadong
Are we trying to see Kill Bill?
00:44:17
billfrankenstein
I have it saved when it comes out. AMC is going to let me know where I can see it. so
00:44:24
billfrankenstein
well We'll go from there.
00:44:26
billfrankenstein
We'll go from there.
00:44:26
Steve-O
I think you can pre-purchase tickets on Fandango.
00:44:30
billfrankenstein
I can't.
00:44:31
billfrankenstein
I have AMC.
00:44:32
megadong
No, yeah. He's a stakeholder, Steve. That would be violating his...
00:44:36
Steve-O
Oh. Stakeholder steak eater.
00:44:37
megadong
That would be violating his...
00:44:39
billfrankenstein
um need steak.
00:44:40
megadong
he he signed a noncompete when He signed a non-compete when he joined the board of directors at AMC Stubs.
00:44:47
BeyBlade
Yeah. Ew. Five Degas at Freddy's 2 comes out. on the
00:44:55
BeyBlade
You know, we got that. We got that coming out.
00:44:57
billfrankenstein
ah Wedding Crashers coming back to the theaters, my friend.
00:44:58
BeyBlade
Oh. Zootopia 2, Zootopia 2, Jujutsu Kaisen Execution, obviously. big and Avatar, new Avatar, come as it comes out.
00:45:06
megadong
you' You're putting me to sleep, Devin.
00:45:08
billfrankenstein
Dust Bunny. Anaconda. On Christmas.
00:45:13
BeyBlade
Yeah. Anaconda on Christmas Day, dude.
00:45:16
billfrankenstein
Primate... Oh, wait.
00:45:17
billfrankenstein
No, that's June 9th.
00:45:17
BeyBlade
Marty Supreme, which I don't know, man. I don't know about Marty Supreme.
00:45:22
megadong
Oh, man, Chris, if you um get tickets to Kill Bill between now and next Friday, you get a character outfit for Fortnite.
00:45:34
Steve-O
you do You get a Google.
00:45:35
BeyBlade
went in Wait, which movie?
00:45:40
BeyBlade
Or which character outfit?
00:45:40
billfrankenstein
a Kill Bill.
00:45:43
billfrankenstein
Go, go, Ybarra.
00:45:44
BeyBlade
I thought you just were going to get Marty Supreme's tennis or ping pong outfit.
00:45:48
BeyBlade
and i was like, oh. Yeah.
00:45:48
megadong
No, you get Pym Mucous' costume in Fortnite.
00:45:52
megadong
Yeah, we got to create Pymucus now, and I'll create...
00:45:55
megadong
i'm gonna Maybe that'll be my Baldur's Gate 3 run.
00:45:58
megadong
I'll make Pymucus.
00:46:00
megadong
It should be a slime ball the whole time.
00:46:00
BeyBlade
yeah Um, but, uh, listen, I do want, I want to give a little special shout out, special shout out. Start watching, uh, on Netflix, of last samurai standing,
00:46:15
BeyBlade
man, that speaks to me, man.
00:46:16
Steve-O
I think, ah Chris, you're watching that, right?
00:46:17
BeyBlade
That was divine. That was designed for me.
00:46:20
megadong
That's a Krevin-Galantek classic.
00:46:22
BeyBlade
That's a crevon. Galante. Okay.
00:46:24
billfrankenstein
I was not watching it.
00:46:25
megadong
That's a Krevin-Galantek classic.
00:46:26
billfrankenstein
What made you think I was watching that, Steve?
00:46:27
Steve-O
You know, i for some reason, I thought, i you know, I realized that it's Devin who said that now in the show fiction.
00:46:32
BeyBlade
Well, well, well, well, well.
00:46:34
billfrankenstein
Well, the whole Kreven thing is coming.
00:46:34
megadong
Was it Chris? Was Krevin? Who was it?
00:46:36
Steve-O
yeah You're just the same person in my head now.
00:46:36
billfrankenstein
It's it's all the same.
00:46:37
BeyBlade
was a Kraven move.
00:46:39
BeyBlade
Yeah. Now, dude, ah it's basically, it's squid it's like an Unabashed Squid Games type show, right? ah But you are, it follows a samurai who has severe PTSD and
00:46:53
BeyBlade
whatever samurai wars they were fighting, they lost because guns were introduced. um And then essentially he's broke. His kid dies in the first episode because they're like too poor for medicine.
00:47:08
BeyBlade
So he's like, I have to get more money. And then he joins this competition ah for a bunch of money with a bunch of other people ah in this village. And they're all samurais. And then they realize, oh, this is like a to the death type of contest.
00:47:23
BeyBlade
Um, but the, and it has, it has that, the squid game, uh, magic, right. Or this genre magic, right. Where it's, there's four or five characters and you're like, what's their deal? What's their deal? What's their deal? And instead of just like, oh, that character is kind of interesting. It's like super sick samurai archetypes.
00:47:44
BeyBlade
So there's this old guy who's just crazy good at killing people.
00:47:49
BeyBlade
And there's this guy that has a giant, a gigantic samurai sword, like anime-esque samurai sword, right?
00:47:57
BeyBlade
There's this dude who has a...
00:47:57
billfrankenstein
Any blind, blind swordsmen in there?
00:48:00
BeyBlade
I think the old guy is blind. It's not confirmed, but I think he's blind, right?
00:48:03
billfrankenstein
Oh, I think got half of those.
00:48:05
Steve-O
That's going to be ah a shadow drop right there.
00:48:05
BeyBlade
There's a um and And the main character, as of right now, ah literally either physically cannot draw his sword, or again, his like PTSD is like kicking in.
00:48:19
billfrankenstein
Post-traumatic samurai disorder, right? Is that what that is?
00:48:20
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:48:22
BeyBlade
But dude, dude, again, it's like there's this this female character who's like fucking doing all this cool shit. There's a like a little ninja character throwing shit.
00:48:33
BeyBlade
There's a bow and arrow character. Like, yeah, it's 100% that, but, you know, I don't know.
00:48:40
Steve-O
How many episodes?
00:48:43
BeyBlade
ah let me let me check real quick.
00:48:46
Steve-O
How many have you watched so far?
00:48:47
BeyBlade
I've only watched one, but i was i was already like, no, I'm in.
00:48:52
Steve-O
I mean, it's very easy to sway me with last standing samurai battle.
00:48:57
BeyBlade
There are six... Dude, only six, dude.
00:48:57
billfrankenstein
That does sound pretty cool.
00:49:02
billfrankenstein
Alright.
00:49:03
Steve-O
How long are each episode?
00:49:04
BeyBlade
ah First episode was an hour, so I'm assuming about an hour.
00:49:09
BeyBlade
292 Samurais gather for a battle royale lured by a 100 billion yen prize.
00:49:15
billfrankenstein
Jesus, that's lot of samurai.
00:49:16
BeyBlade
Yeah, dude. Yeah, but...
00:49:19
Steve-O
Couldn't go for the full 300. Yeah,
00:49:21
billfrankenstein
You know, the last eight called out sick.
00:49:23
Steve-O
yeah it was just like they they called in last second. they like oh
00:49:27
billfrankenstein
You know, I just can't make it.
00:49:27
BeyBlade
Yeah. No, but dude, dude, so there's this cop, right?
00:49:30
billfrankenstein
I got the rungs.
00:49:30
BeyBlade
There's this cop who tries to shut it down. He's like, oh, I'm the fastest sword in the
00:49:35
Steve-O
They're like, oh. That's just Squid Game. ah
00:49:37
billfrankenstein
And it's just Squid Game?
00:49:38
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah. No, dude, there's ah there's this cop who tries to shut it down.
00:49:43
BeyBlade
He's like, I'm the best swordsman here in the town. And he tries to like just come at the whoever the the orator is. And this guy with a big scar across his face with like almost like a little police hat, just like in a flash, like just cuts his head off.
00:49:58
BeyBlade
like it's It's definitely live-action anime-esque, right? This is not like a hyper-realistic
00:50:04
billfrankenstein
lot of throwaway samurai, is what you're saying.
00:50:06
BeyBlade
A hundred percent. But. But. there's there's like there's ah There's a character where I was like. Oh that's my guy. I already picked him.
00:50:15
BeyBlade
I don't know if he's going to make it past episode one.
00:50:17
billfrankenstein
He's the Thanos.
00:50:19
megadong
He's Thanos. He's with Thanos.
00:50:19
billfrankenstein
He's the Thanos of the...
00:50:21
BeyBlade
i don't know if he's. He's not the Thanos. Right.
00:50:23
Steve-O
He's the Chevron Galantech.
00:50:25
BeyBlade
He's the Chevron Galante. For sure dude.
00:50:27
billfrankenstein
hey Doesn't use a sword, just his mitts.
00:50:28
BeyBlade
Hold on. Let me see if I can find a picture of him. But I was like. Like, I'm just watching. And again, this was like a show. i fire up at like 1230 AM.
00:50:41
BeyBlade
And I'm just like, God damn, I'm already locked in. I'm already locked in. All right, hold on.
00:50:47
BeyBlade
This is the, i really wanted to, but I was like, I need to go to bed.
00:50:47
Steve-O
You could have watched one more episode instead of Abraham Lincoln.
00:50:52
billfrankenstein
guys like Schindler over here. Gotta watch one more episode.
00:50:56
BeyBlade
One more, one more.
00:50:58
BeyBlade
ah Yeah, listen. There's a guy with a giant sword. I just posted a picture of him. And I was like,
00:51:08
Steve-O
That's a fucking video game sword right there.
00:51:09
BeyBlade
That's, dude, that's what I'm telling you. This is like video game coded.
00:51:17
billfrankenstein
little guts action going on there. Okay. right.
00:51:19
billfrankenstein
Okay. right. right
00:51:20
BeyBlade
I'm telling you, man. I was hard in.
00:51:23
BeyBlade
I don't know if this is based off of something or what, but it might be.
00:51:28
Steve-O
Is it episodic or is it all out?
00:51:30
BeyBlade
So this is... i So basically the first episode ends with like a clash, like like this screenshot I think is like literally the last thing you see in episode one.
00:51:45
BeyBlade
And then like and it's like turn on episode two and it was one of the hardest things I could do did not keep rolling.
00:51:50
Steve-O
You had to hit the no button?
00:51:52
BeyBlade
yeah Yeah, I think this is a a manga.
00:51:53
billfrankenstein
Devin, I don't want to alarm you, but you got about like three days to finish this before Stranger Things comes out, so you better get to it, bro.
00:52:01
BeyBlade
Dude, what do you think i'm doing after this?
00:52:03
Steve-O
ah cycle The cycle. He's just going to watch every samurai show.
00:52:04
BeyBlade
fun i I was able to break off the shackles of Ed Gein Monster, so now now I'm allowed to watch whatever I want.
00:52:12
Steve-O
Escape the monster.
00:52:14
billfrankenstein
got three weeks You got three days, man.
00:52:15
BeyBlade
Yeah, three days, man.
00:52:15
billfrankenstein
Time's counting.
00:52:17
billfrankenstein
72 hours.
00:52:19
billfrankenstein
Then you got to shut everything off and watch Steve die.
00:52:22
billfrankenstein
not that Not our Steve.
00:52:24
billfrankenstein
Not our Steve.
00:52:24
Steve-O
Come on, man. I'm going to die. I'm to put me in some fucking toot acid. Everybody knows of Roger Rabbit.
00:52:34
BeyBlade
Everybody knows you're a toon in secret.
00:52:36
Steve-O
Hey, speaking of tunes, I watched three episodes of a new tune and I didn't expect to as get into it.
00:52:44
Steve-O
And I also didn't know what it was until I started watching it.
00:52:47
megadong
Oh, is this the soccer anime?
00:52:48
Steve-O
no No, no, no, no, no.
00:52:50
megadong
that's so That's a game.
00:52:50
Steve-O
That's that's a game.
00:52:51
megadong
That's a video game.
00:52:52
Steve-O
ah So I watched the first three episodes of ah Amazon Prime's The Mighty Nine.
00:52:59
billfrankenstein
Oh, cool! How is that?
00:53:00
Steve-O
this is it's really good. I think, and I didn't realize this. I think the animation team is partly the animation team that did avatar.
00:53:11
billfrankenstein
Is that Rooster Teeth?
00:53:11
BeyBlade
mean Also, this ah this is the Mighty Nein spelled like German, right?
00:53:13
Steve-O
it's tip mouth or something. maybe Yes.
00:53:17
Steve-O
It's like German. So this, yeah, this is, this is critical role.
00:53:17
megadong
Dude, look at this look at this voice cast, too
00:53:21
Steve-O
This is the third season or whatever. I don't know much about it.
00:53:26
Steve-O
Chris, you probably know more second.
00:53:26
billfrankenstein
Second. Second. Yeah. Because the first season, I was not as much invested in the characters as I was the Mighty Nein.
00:53:29
BeyBlade
Wait, wait, wait. This is on...
00:53:35
billfrankenstein
Partially because they had a monk, and I really liked those characters.
00:53:40
billfrankenstein
um But yeah, I think Sam's character... Who does Sam play again? The little goblin?
00:53:45
Steve-O
ah Not not ah the Brave.
00:53:46
billfrankenstein
Yeah, Knott's pretty fucking pretty amazing.
00:53:49
Steve-O
This is like not Jester Ford. um
00:53:52
billfrankenstein
Yeah, they're all great.
00:53:52
BeyBlade
wait Is this connected to a Vox Machina at all?
00:53:56
billfrankenstein
Yeah. So Vox Machina was the first season of critical role. And now the mighty nine is the second season that they're animated.
00:54:03
Steve-O
This is their second campaign.
00:54:05
billfrankenstein
Yeah. Second campaign.
00:54:07
BeyBlade
ah Do you think I need to? Okay. Okay.
00:54:10
billfrankenstein
Yeah. Totally new characters, new, new story.
00:54:10
BeyBlade
That was going be my
00:54:13
billfrankenstein
You could jump into this over, um, what was the other one called? Not Vox Machina.
00:54:20
billfrankenstein
Yeah. Um,
00:54:22
billfrankenstein
I quite liked, I know the most about the second season too. um So yeah, this snuck up on me.
00:54:30
Steve-O
i I legit, like I saw a little picture for it and I went, oh, that looks kind of like D&D-esque. And ds and i I played it. I'm like, oh, fuck, Critical Role. Like I had no idea until I started watching.
00:54:41
billfrankenstein
Now you did, did you watch any of Vox back enough?
00:54:44
Steve-O
No. So I remember seeing the trailer for Vox Machina and it just, it didn't really pull me. I think the animation didn't really pull me.
00:54:55
Steve-O
I was like, it this i think is a different animation team.
00:54:55
billfrankenstein
Oh, it's new animation? Really?
00:54:59
Steve-O
I could be talking out my ass, but this is ah produced by Titmouse and
00:55:01
billfrankenstein
Because I think it was Rooster Teeth was the first season.
00:55:07
billfrankenstein
Oh, it is Titmouse. Yeah, Titmouse.
00:55:09
billfrankenstein
That's who it is.
00:55:09
Steve-O
That's who it is. Okay. Then maybe maybe it is the same people, but um like, it looks really good. Like, yeah, Tessa and I sat down.
00:55:16
billfrankenstein
Interesting.
00:55:18
Steve-O
Like she knew more about all the stuff than me and was like explaining all the characters and stuff.
00:55:22
BeyBlade
keep calling did You keep saying shut up, nerd.
00:55:23
billfrankenstein
The only thing
00:55:25
BeyBlade
I'm trying to watch.
00:55:26
Steve-O
I was like, I was like, please explain what is going on. Okay.
00:55:29
billfrankenstein
the ah The only character I think is better in Vox Machina is Grog, the barbarian.
00:55:36
billfrankenstein
But I like Ford, but I don't like him as much as Grog. That's the best.
00:55:42
Steve-O
That's understandable. i
00:55:43
billfrankenstein
But every other character is way better in the Mighty Nein, in my opinion, at that point.
00:55:48
Steve-O
it it It seems like what has been explained to me is Vox Machina is much darker and this is a much sillier team.
00:55:56
billfrankenstein
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's much funnier.
Amazon Prime Shows and Comedic Stories
00:55:58
billfrankenstein
There is some, like, dramatic moments, but I don't think they're going focus on them as much in the show.
00:56:04
Steve-O
ah There is a, I'm not trying to like spoil anything. um But I, if you know, like what goes on, ah there is definitely, so there's like a relic that is stolen.
00:56:13
billfrankenstein
There's a death, too, right?
00:56:16
Steve-O
i don't know yet. I don't know. Nobody on the the primary team. that The team has just formed in the first three.
00:56:22
billfrankenstein
Okay, is there...
00:56:22
Steve-O
um It is, ah there's Jester, Molly.
00:56:25
billfrankenstein
There's Chester, there's... Who's
00:56:30
billfrankenstein
the Flame Wizard?
00:56:34
billfrankenstein
Caleb, yeah.
00:56:34
Steve-O
bow uh not and f ford and uh so they just they just got together it's very interesting to watch too because like when you're watching it you can tell when people fail their roles and i'm like that's that's wild because like you're watching it and you're like oh there's a fuck up like there's what someone like definitely failed a role um
00:56:48
billfrankenstein
Yeah, yeah. That was... Vox Machina did that too, actually.
00:56:59
Steve-O
But, you know, I was just having a good time with it. And ah so far, so far, so good. It's it's ah every Wednesday on Amazon Prime.
00:57:05
billfrankenstein
Ooh, I'm gonna watch that.
00:57:08
billfrankenstein
Steve, have you, and Devin, have you guys caught up on the chair company?
00:57:12
Steve-O
Yes, i I watched that last night.
00:57:13
BeyBlade
I'm caught up on Share Company. um Yeah. um um Yeah. ah Yeah, I'm in.
00:57:20
billfrankenstein
Devin's cousin.
00:57:20
BeyBlade
Got a season two, officially.
00:57:22
Steve-O
It got season two? Fantastic.
00:57:24
BeyBlade
Yeah, got season two. um You know, ah did the ending of that previously.
00:57:28
billfrankenstein
that That, at the previous episode, is probably my favorite.
00:57:31
Steve-O
The ending. Oh my god.
00:57:35
billfrankenstein
Well, just the guy with the dent his head, too. That was pretty like good.
00:57:37
Steve-O
That was very funny.
00:57:39
billfrankenstein
Someone hit a guy in his dent.
00:57:43
billfrankenstein
He could have killed him.
00:57:43
BeyBlade
gonna kill him yeah no that uh i'm in hard in
00:57:48
Steve-O
The Scrooge therooge ending though, the like the previous one was oh good.
00:57:52
BeyBlade
i will say i do the critique i've heard is like man i just i hope there is like maybe a different mystery because it's like to see this this mystery kind of keep going is you know hopefully it works
00:58:11
billfrankenstein
Hey, Red Ball Marketing Group is is big, man. I got a wide group.
00:58:18
billfrankenstein
He's so strange.
00:58:20
Steve-O
They're finding bugs, Devin. They're finding European bugs.
00:58:21
billfrankenstein
You know that one guy who told him, he was like, they made me work naked. They made me work naked.
00:58:29
billfrankenstein
And he's like, why did you quit? He's like, well, i went to the lunchroom and I saw somebody else who worked there.
00:58:34
billfrankenstein
Guess what? He was wearing clothes.
00:58:38
Steve-O
I love it it. It was like the explanation was he got somebody else got there before he was and he was like, I'm your boss and you were naked.
00:58:47
billfrankenstein
He wasn't even my boss!
00:58:49
BeyBlade
Oh my God, dude.
00:58:54
billfrankenstein
so funny. i was just crying when i he came on.
00:58:58
Steve-O
It's so fucking funny.
00:58:59
billfrankenstein
That guy is hilarious.
00:59:00
billfrankenstein
The guy he like found with his mother who just kept saying popcorn.
00:59:07
billfrankenstein
you had She has popcorn in her hand!
00:59:14
billfrankenstein
That's very funny.
00:59:15
Steve-O
you The one where it was ah the fucking most recent episode where was like the old man who's hanging out with the when they're at the party and it's like, are you finally done talking?
00:59:23
billfrankenstein
Yo, dude, that is so weird. And he's like, hey, we're going to need some help down here. like No a problem, man. He's doing that weird goblin voice.
00:59:34
Steve-O
I can say something interesting.
00:59:40
billfrankenstein
Yeah, that shit is very funny. Um,
00:59:43
Steve-O
I love the like the recap in the beginning because they make it that classic like HBO recap where it's like everything is the most dramatic thing, but it's never actually...
00:59:43
billfrankenstein
you like it
00:59:53
Steve-O
When you're watching it, it's just the weirdest, most like strange things.
00:59:55
billfrankenstein
so silly. So
TV Shows and Stranger Things Speculations
00:59:58
billfrankenstein
silly. The
00:59:59
Steve-O
Fucking Chocolate Kong.
01:00:03
billfrankenstein
moment I saw this, I knew i had to have a reason to buy it.
01:00:07
billfrankenstein
Forget the chocolate cup.
01:00:07
Steve-O
I'm excited. New episode tonight, so...
01:00:10
billfrankenstein
Also, um is everybody caught up on Pluribus?
01:00:14
BeyBlade
No, no. And I have a gripe about Pluribus.
01:00:18
BeyBlade
I don't have Apple TV and no one i have on my Plex server has downloaded it, so I can't watch it.
01:00:23
billfrankenstein
Somebody help me. Somebody help me. I ain't getting
01:00:27
BeyBlade
Somebody help me watch it.
01:00:30
BeyBlade
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. yeah has John, have you have you watched any of Pluribus?
01:00:35
megadong
Dude, I was just like, I was going through the anti-fanny stuff, and i have not watched enough TV shows to show them. I'm too busy playing video games.
01:00:42
billfrankenstein
Yeah, dude.
01:00:43
Steve-O
He's been gaming.
01:00:43
billfrankenstein
I'll be real, John. You got two shows in the in the canon right now.
01:00:47
megadong
Yeah, I gotta watch Pluribus and what, Alien Earth and Alien Earth?
01:00:47
billfrankenstein
I'd say Alien Earth 2. Those two, I think, are the ones, man, if you're going to watch anything. And Stranger Things, obviously, when it comes out, but.
01:00:54
megadong
Alright. Yeah, i mean, I'm expecting Stranger Things to probably be my show of the year, but yeah that could go.
01:01:01
Steve-O
Is it going to be done by end of the year?
01:01:04
megadong
I mean, what we're getting what? We're getting a couple episodes on Thanksgiving, right?
01:01:09
Steve-O
We get a couple this week on the twenty fifth
01:01:11
billfrankenstein
and then one release, the last one, and the new.
01:01:12
megadong
No, and then fall do it and then fallout Fallout comes out in December.
01:01:16
BeyBlade
Yeah, dude, Fallout.
01:01:18
megadong
there's ah There's a few that are in the and the docket.
01:01:18
BeyBlade
Man, I'll be honest, I'm a little irritated that I have to watch that weekly.
01:01:19
billfrankenstein
I'm going watch the Falco vote.
01:01:21
billfrankenstein
That got me hot.
01:01:24
BeyBlade
i was like, God damn it.
01:01:26
billfrankenstein
Yeah, me too, man.
01:01:28
BeyBlade
You know, I know, right?
01:01:30
billfrankenstein
Both those shows.
01:01:32
billfrankenstein
Both those shows I don't watch.
01:01:34
Steve-O
Everybody learns the meta.
01:01:34
megadong
Why don't you record it record it on your VHS recorder and then watch it later.
01:01:38
BeyBlade
um wait And wait seven weeks.
01:01:40
BeyBlade
Listen, I mean, all all that says is ah it's a great show, and and I want to be a greedy little pig.
01:01:48
billfrankenstein
Same here, Devin.
01:01:48
BeyBlade
I want to be a greedy pig boy.
01:01:48
billfrankenstein
We're all greedy little pigs.
01:01:51
billfrankenstein
We're all greedy little pigs.
01:01:52
Steve-O
it all. It stays in the zeitgeist longer. gotta admit that.
01:01:56
billfrankenstein
Steve, do you get spooked by the end of Pluribus this episode? Because I sure did.
01:02:01
Steve-O
Ooh! You know, this Floribus, this was like kind of like it wasn't as explosive as the previous episode, but like it definitely was something where yeah we were kind of we were kind of getting a little little gritty in there.
01:02:02
billfrankenstein
That's all I'm going to say. I don't want to spoil anything.
01:02:18
Steve-O
like I don't want to spoil anything though. I'm trying to.
01:02:22
BeyBlade
all right, well, I guess, is it, is it, obviously it's good, but is this like
Gaming Discussion and Indie Games
01:02:28
Steve-O
It's really good. I,
01:02:29
BeyBlade
already, is this already like, oh, this is great?
01:02:33
BeyBlade
Is it already in great territory?
01:02:38
BeyBlade
You know, or is it like, yeah.
01:02:39
Steve-O
i agree with Chris.
01:02:41
billfrankenstein
Not yet, man. Not yet.
01:02:41
Steve-O
I, I think it starts off very strong.
01:02:45
BeyBlade
Yeah, i well, I was going to say, that's the thing.
01:02:48
BeyBlade
the first episode you guys are, you know, kind of losing your minds a little bit. And I was like, all right, all right. And then, um, I don't want to say like you guys have cooled off on it, but I, you know, it wasn't a nonstop,
01:03:01
billfrankenstein
I'll tell you this, man. It feels like more like the beginning of Better Call Saul than Breaking Bad. But i ah Better Call Saul is one of my favorite shows ever made. So I'm willing to kind of hang out for these little, wouldn't say just, they're like plot drips.
01:03:19
billfrankenstein
I would call them episodes.
01:03:21
billfrankenstein
um But it's so compelling and so strange that it kind of makes you you like, you can't look away. I wouldn't say it's great yet.
01:03:31
billfrankenstein
That's kind of, I'd say wait for the first season to finish. Then you can really give a definitive great.
01:03:37
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah. So, like, I will i will get there. It's just... I just can't jump back onto Apple TV.
01:03:48
BeyBlade
I got real lucky with Severance.
01:03:49
billfrankenstein
Well, I got a, I got a definitive great that I just started playing this game today.
01:03:58
BeyBlade
Vampire the Masquerade 2...
01:04:01
megadong
Is it the game I've been playing, Chris?
01:04:03
billfrankenstein
It's Mega Bomb, baby.
01:04:05
megadong
You got into the crack, Chris?
01:04:08
billfrankenstein
Holy shit, dude.
01:04:08
megadong
Dude. Dude, it's crack.
01:04:09
BeyBlade
I'll see myself out. man
01:04:11
megadong
It's fucking crack. Wait, Devin, is it is it only on PC? Can you play it on PlayStation?
01:04:15
BeyBlade
It's only on PC.
01:04:16
BeyBlade
Cause I was like, yeah, I got bonked, dude.
01:04:16
billfrankenstein
I want to tell you right now, ah Tim is...
01:04:17
megadong
Get bonked, Devin! Get bonked.
01:04:19
billfrankenstein
Tim is full of shit. Calcium is the best character in the game. The skateboarding skeleton.
01:04:25
megadong
ah Did you unlock Mega Chad? Because that's my main. i already have him at rank 100.
01:04:29
billfrankenstein
I didn't...
01:04:29
megadong
He's golden now.
01:04:30
billfrankenstein
I did not unlock Mega Timber yet.
01:04:32
megadong
Because and he he just walks around. He's slow, but he has like the garlic. He has aura. His weapon is aura. And it's and it's gar it's the garlic mechanic from Vampire Survivors.
01:04:44
billfrankenstein
Yeah. Sure, sure, sure, sure.
01:04:47
megadong
And yeah you know what I'm talking about, right?
01:04:49
billfrankenstein
I know, just talking about my other Because I got...
01:04:49
megadong
You don't have to talk. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, let me let me show you a screenshot of of how big i got my aura in the endgame.
01:04:57
billfrankenstein
I got chunky, which are like the big rocks that float around you, and that's kind of my go-to.
01:05:03
billfrankenstein
That's my go-to.
01:05:03
megadong
Oh, dude, aura would be your... or Did you get the Aegis shield, too? Because it kind of does a similar thing, too.
01:05:09
billfrankenstein
Yeah, I got the Aegis Shield. I just got the Katana.
01:05:13
megadong
Oh, I didn't get that.
01:05:13
billfrankenstein
Just found that.
01:05:13
megadong
yeah That's a random drop, I think, in the desert.
01:05:15
billfrankenstein
I found that the first time I went into that level, the desert level.
01:05:19
billfrankenstein
I was like, yo!
01:05:19
megadong
i'm i'm I'm trying to fish for that. Steve, you gotta get this game. It's so fucking addicting. And it's kind of like...
01:05:25
billfrankenstein
3D vampire.
01:05:27
megadong
Dude, it's like...
01:05:28
megadong
It's like the worst... It's the worst thing because it is the perfect game to play on the Steam Deck.
01:05:34
megadong
It's literally just...
01:05:35
megadong
It runs perfectly on the Steam Deck. And, you know, it's like Vampire Survivors, but, you know, you're you're in a 3D space now, basically.
01:05:44
megadong
It's so much fun, and there's like... I thought they were like plagiarizing Castlevania music, but there's a song in the soundtrack called Bonkavania or or or mega Mega something.
01:05:56
megadong
It's Mega Bonkavania.
01:05:57
Steve-O
heavily inspired by Castlevania.
01:05:58
BeyBlade
You played it, yeah.
01:05:59
BeyBlade
you You played it, and I was like, oh, this this is a game, yeah.
01:05:59
megadong
And it's totally just Divine Bloodlines.
01:06:01
megadong
like it's Yeah, the soundtrack's really good.
01:06:05
megadong
It's like it's just a crack. It's crack, dude.
01:06:08
billfrankenstein
Might be my goatee.
01:06:10
megadong
it It's like, it might be my goatee, dude, bro. I don't know, man.
01:06:14
billfrankenstein
This game so much fun
01:06:16
megadong
Nah, but like, ah dude, it's just like... Because it's also like...
01:06:20
megadong
it's kind of like i don't want to say it's low effort, but like it's not really like... You don't have to... It's not like... um You know...
01:06:30
billfrankenstein
It's no skill. Well, there is skill.
01:06:31
megadong
Yes... yeah I mean, there is skill, but like...
01:06:32
billfrankenstein
It's just so weird.
01:06:32
Steve-O
You're like, you get to put the time you want into it.
01:06:35
megadong
yeah like it's really like just...
01:06:37
billfrankenstein
It can be casual or sweaty.
01:06:37
megadong
It's kind of just a chill... It's a chill game. You know, you just fucking... You just lay down in bed and just fucking run around and... You know, rack up your fucking...
01:06:45
billfrankenstein
It's very low stress, I'd say, at times, but it's as low stress as Vampire Survivors is towards the end.
01:06:49
megadong
And it's just it's just silly.
01:06:52
billfrankenstein
like It gets more stressful as you play, you get more sweaty.
01:06:57
billfrankenstein
like You could be really sweaty about it, this game, if you wanted to.
01:06:59
megadong
Yeah. No, yeah. cause yeah when you get When you play the harder tier levels, like then the things start coming after you. you actually have to like jump around and like maneuver around everybody.
01:07:10
megadong
It's it's just like Vampire Spires.
01:07:11
billfrankenstein
And there's cute little little environmental things and like cool little bosses.
01:07:14
megadong
There's funny jokes. like There's the the description for the... the Thunderfist or something, it's like, clap those cheeks so hard, the Thunderstrike stuff, and I'm just like, yeah, this is this is awesome. This game is so awesome.
01:07:28
billfrankenstein
And it's easily something you can like add DLC onto like an Empire Strikes.
01:07:31
megadong
Just get it, Steve.
01:07:33
Steve-O
ah Hey, hey, ah come on. It's Black Friday this week, man.
01:07:35
BeyBlade
Wait, wait, wait. Hold on.
01:07:36
BeyBlade
because i think Yeah, no, no.
01:07:36
Steve-O
It's Black Friday this week.
01:07:36
megadong
Steve, it's $10.
01:07:38
BeyBlade
That was the thing, right?
01:07:38
megadong
It's going to be what?
01:07:38
billfrankenstein
And it's $10.
01:07:39
megadong
It's going to go on sale for $9?
01:07:39
Steve-O
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
01:07:40
megadong
You're going to get it?
01:07:41
BeyBlade
You said, I'm waiting for sale.
01:07:43
Steve-O
I got to see if it's on sale.
01:07:48
BeyBlade
are you Do you owe money to the mob or something?
01:07:53
megadong
You know what, Steve? Maybe you actually aren't tipping those guys on Grubhub and that's why they're stealing your food.
01:07:58
Steve-O
Hey, hey, 20%, 20% every time, 20% every time.
01:07:58
megadong
I'm just saying.
01:08:00
Steve-O
yeah, yeah, yeah, it dwindles, it dwindles.
01:08:00
megadong
I'm just saying. 20% of 20% of 20%.
01:08:04
megadong
Is what it is? Is that your calculation of how you do your tips?
01:08:07
Steve-O
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it dwindles it dwindles
01:08:07
BeyBlade
I think that number's going to have to, yeah.
01:08:12
megadong
Yo, but yeah, dude. Yeah. Cause I was like, oh, should I get dispatch right now? like ah Like, that might actually go on sale. Actually, I don't i don't think it will.
01:08:20
megadong
But, like, that's, like, what, $30?
01:08:22
BeyBlade
Yeah, this batch is 40 if you want the like the super edition, but i didn't get that.
01:08:24
megadong
So, like, if that... Yeah, so if that if that goes on sale for, like, $20, $25, then, yeah, like, I'll jump on it. But, like, i this was, like, oh, i was like, oh, it's only $10. Fuck, I'll just get it right now.
01:08:37
megadong
And i have not I have not stopped playing it since I bought it.
01:08:37
Steve-O
I know, but if it's... What if I can get it for $9? Yeah,
01:08:45
megadong
It is a lot of fun, though.
01:08:46
BeyBlade
You, like, kind of make me sick, Steve.
01:08:46
megadong
Like, it is a lot of fun.
01:08:49
BeyBlade
Make me sick to my fucking stomach, dude.
01:08:50
Steve-O
I make you sick! Do you know how irresponsible I am with my money?
01:08:55
megadong
Yeah, why i want Why don't you wait for that Nintendo clock to go on sale before you got it, Steve?
01:08:59
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah, fucking spends $100 on a Nintendo clock, but...
01:09:02
Steve-O
hey, hey! hey That Nintendo clock got more expensive.
01:09:08
megadong
Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, because it's like...
01:09:09
BeyBlade
Yeah, so does the Xbox Series X, Steve.
01:09:12
BeyBlade
No one's bragging about that.
01:09:13
Steve-O
No, no. Mine was ah mine was a... What the fuck? Tariff. Tariff price. I'll put in my cart right now. But also, I'm eyeing up this fucking soccer game, John.
01:09:25
megadong
Yeah, I bought... yeah i bought um what what Because the Black Friday sales started already, so I bought Ori and the Blind Forest, which... um i you know A lot of people really ah highly rate review that game.
01:09:43
Steve-O
I loved Ori and the Blind Fires.
01:09:44
megadong
Yeah, a lot of people really love that game, so I'm i'm looking forward to that. And it's you know it's a Metroidvania. And then I got Celeste. And those were like, I got them both for, I think, both for $10. I think they were $5 each or some shit.
01:09:54
Steve-O
That's excellent.
01:09:55
billfrankenstein
Thank you.
01:09:56
Steve-O
Excellent prices.
01:09:56
megadong
So um um I'm actually really looking forward to Celeste because a lot of people that I watch play that play Hollow Knight, like super pro level Hollow Knight players, like love Celeste.
01:10:07
Steve-O
I tried to get into Celeste.
01:10:09
Steve-O
Celeste felt a lot more like, you know how people are like super into Super Meat Boy?
01:10:15
BeyBlade
was going to say, that gives me super Meat Boy vibes, and um' um that's not the vibe I'm looking for.
01:10:19
megadong
haven't beat I haven't beaten Super Meat Boy, but um i see i really see the appeal to it. Because I got kind of deep in there.
01:10:25
Steve-O
It's, it's, the audio is beautiful of, of Celeste.
01:10:30
megadong
So it is it is a sweaty platformer.
01:10:32
Steve-O
It's a very sweaty platform.
01:10:34
Steve-O
You're going to have be doing some like perfect like pixel precision jumps.
01:10:38
megadong
Hey, man. Yeah, I mean, I love that shit.
01:10:39
Steve-O
If anybody can do it, it's you.
01:10:41
megadong
I love that stuff, dude. I mean, I hate it, but... um I love the feeling after after conquering it.
01:10:46
Steve-O
You were big into Pizza Tower, so I think yeah i think you'll you'll be in for Celeste.
01:10:48
megadong
After conquering it
01:10:51
BeyBlade
Yeah, did you ever beat Pizza Tower, Joe?
01:10:53
megadong
it. I did beat Pizza Tower, but it doesn't give you the satisfaction of beating it if you beat it. Because like there's a lot of like challenges in the game that are really difficult that um I wasn't really...
01:11:09
megadong
like I like the art style. I think it's fun.
01:11:12
megadong
But it's not like... you know It's not... It's not a fucking renaissance painting like Hollow Knight is. you know it's not
01:11:19
megadong
It's not super polished like that game. Hollow Knight was really easy for me to get obsessed with once I got deep into it. But Pizza Tower, i did beat I did beat the game technically.
01:11:31
megadong
But like like let me look at my achievements. I don't think they they don't like really i think i only have a few. Yeah, I have five achievements and I beat the game. so it's like that you really There's a lot of fucking sweaty shit to do.
01:11:44
megadong
in that game, if you're, you know, if you want to put the time into it. Um, that's a really challenging game, too, Pizza Tower. But it was really fun. I really enjoyed it.
01:11:53
Steve-O
The music in that game awesome.
01:11:56
megadong
Yeah. I mean, it's got that same vibe as, like, um, Hotline Miami. Like, that that type of, like, they just they just get a talented fucking indie artist to do the music, and they, like, go go hard on the music.
01:12:08
megadong
You know, they go crazy. So, yeah, Pizza Tower was good. But I'm looking forward to trying Celeste.
01:12:18
Steve-O
People, like, love that game, so I think...
01:12:19
megadong
Yeah, that's the thing. like people like It's like kind of like you knowult a cult following Hollow Knight a little bit. Where like people are just like obsessed with it. you know they have They have a fan game restore.
01:12:31
megadong
So like that means people really like this stuff. So I'm looking forward to trying Celeste. Although it looks... i mean I don't want to be a fucking... stupid person but like it is more pixelated than i expected so because did you ah you guys ever play that game vvvvvv do you pronounce that game yeah so i yeah i played that that was wow that was when i lived in atlanta i played that on the on the 3ds that was super pixelated that was like that was a tough game too so looking forward to that ori how long how long will you do you think it'll take to beat ori
01:12:49
Steve-O
yes yeah it's like just
01:13:08
Steve-O
It's a good question. um
01:13:10
megadong
And when I bought it, it gave me two versions of the game. Like, there's the definitive edition, and then there's the regular edition.
01:13:17
Steve-O
I think I don't know what's on the definitive edition, um but I don't think it's long.
01:13:17
megadong
And I don't know what the difference is.
01:13:23
megadong
It's three gigabytes and larger, so...
01:13:26
Steve-O
It like it might take you a few playthroughs, but you know, it is very much just like a right.
01:13:34
megadong
This is ah this a Metroidvania, though, like, through and through, from what I heard.
01:13:37
megadong
Yeah. With a really good story, I heard.
01:13:40
Steve-O
It's the level designs are beautiful. Like it's just gorgeous.
01:13:44
megadong
Who developed this? What happened to all these studios?
01:13:46
Steve-O
This is Microsoft.
01:13:48
Steve-O
I think it's Microsoft.
01:13:48
megadong
no. Uninstall. Delete.
01:13:50
Steve-O
What happened? What happened?
01:13:50
megadong
just Yeah, no. I mean, like, what happened to all these studios that did these games? And then this is kind of a good segue to get into the Game Awards discussion.
01:13:59
megadong
because Because, like... Like, what what is... the what Who developed Ori?
01:14:05
Steve-O
ah This is Moon Studios ah published by Xbox games.
01:14:13
megadong
So, Moon... So, what so what if... what are are they ah Do they have another game after this?
01:14:17
Steve-O
They made a sequel to Ori and the Will of the Whips.
01:14:19
megadong
Yeah, there's the...
01:14:20
Steve-O
And then after that, they made a game called No Rest for the Wicked.
01:14:21
megadong
Yeah, there's the... yeah
01:14:24
Steve-O
And that's a game that I bought because I thought it was ah like a Diablo-like. But they ended up making... It's it's more of a Souls Diablo-like. And I kind of it kind of...
01:14:36
megadong
Interesting. Interesting.
01:14:37
Steve-O
The thing is, it might be up your alley.
01:14:37
megadong
my blood Blood is rushing into my dick right now. Keep going.
01:14:43
megadong
Don't stop talking.
01:14:45
Steve-O
i was i was not a fan just because they like kind of do the R&D ah They were like, all right, we're starting you off with a magic wand.
01:14:48
megadong
No, I remember hearing about this. Yeah. me see.
01:14:53
Steve-O
And I was like, what?
01:14:55
megadong
So they really changed. They didn't just like, you know, they didn't go with another type of Ori game. They just went with a completely different type of game after that, I guess it seemed.
01:15:03
Steve-O
Right. They were like, we we want to we want to branch out
01:15:07
megadong
Yeah, because I was wondering like that and then like Studio MDHR, the Cuphead guys, like what are those guys doing?
01:15:12
Steve-O
I don't know. Like I see on mobile there's a game that like steals ah the whole Cuphead like aesthetic.
01:15:14
megadong
you know? Like, they're...
01:15:21
Steve-O
It's called like Ace Pilots or something.
01:15:23
megadong
And it looks like it.
01:15:24
Steve-O
It looks, you know, old timey.
01:15:25
megadong
Because, like, I did some light digging, and people, like, the the sickos out there found out that they're hiring people at their studio to work on a game, but they haven't announced anything yet.
01:15:37
Steve-O
I would not be surprised.
01:15:37
megadong
but it's like But it's, like, it goes to show, like, like the discussion of, like, debut indie game. because it's like some of these guys are i don't want to say they're one and done but like like why give an award for a debut indie game like why not just you know make like a more defined term like because the joystick the golden joystick awards have best indie independent game and then they have best independent game that was self-published and i think that is more of like like a um
01:16:10
megadong
like an achievement to create a game that makes waves.
01:16:11
Steve-O
That makes more sense.
01:16:13
megadong
If you, if you publish it yourself as opposed to so it's like, yeah.
01:16:15
Steve-O
Yeah, I'm in full agreement with that. I think the definition of an indie game needs that. Because it's like, nowadays, it's like, yeah, I made a game, but then Xbox bought it and is publishing it.
01:16:27
Steve-O
And it's like, that's not as...
01:16:28
megadong
And then, yeah. And this is a good, also a good sub segue from talking about Megabonk too, because that guy was nominated for best debut indie and he, he, he,
01:16:38
megadong
took himself out. He said he doesn't, he shouldn't count, they shouldn't count him because he's made games before under different studios or under different pseudony pseudonyms or whatever.
01:16:48
Steve-O
Yeah, that's a that's an interesting thing, because apparently I think it's like Vladed Neve something like that.
01:16:54
megadong
Yeah, if you say it backwards, it's it's his name.
01:16:55
Steve-O
It's if you flip it, it's like Danny Dev and which is like they're established.
01:17:01
megadong
But it's it's kind of interesting too. It's like a Daft Punk type thing because he wouldn't actually like confirm that was it was him or not.
01:17:08
megadong
but like but people just kind of figured it out.
01:17:10
Steve-O
It's like the Bellatro thing where it's like. Mm
01:17:13
megadong
Yeah, where the he the guy just sent a dude dressed a clown to attend the Game of Awards, which is pretty set which is pretty awesome.
01:17:21
megadong
um But yeah like yeah, it's just like, ah just don't... um Because they're you know they're a lot of discussion about the Game Awards is around um around Expedition 33.
01:17:33
megadong
And it kind of like that game kind of toes the line between
01:17:38
megadong
what a really good game that isn't AAA what an what is you know what constitutes an indie game. Because like...
01:17:46
Steve-O
your My brain doesn't think of this being an indie game when I was playing it. like There's definitely like an indie feel.
01:17:56
megadong
Yeah, yeah, it feels indie on terms of like, you know, like the ah the lack of... I don't want to like shit on it like this, but like the lack of polish and and attention to detail that you see from like the last of us, you know, or you can tell.
01:18:10
BeyBlade
Yeah, you can you can see where, like, the...
01:18:13
megadong
Yeah. But also Devin, you were, you were, you were saying, you were saying some of the similar things about ghost of Yote as well.
01:18:13
BeyBlade
yeah. yeah It's just, yeah, you can tell.
01:18:19
megadong
And that's not, that's considered a triple studio game. Right. And you were saying like, you could tell there is a clear distinction between a game like glass bus and a game like ghost of Yote.
01:18:29
BeyBlade
but But that's more like, that's more just like, I don't want to say lazy. It's like you could see the rough edges are more apparent in ah in ah Claire than they are in Ghost.
01:18:41
BeyBlade
It's just like, you can just see the mechanics in Ghost of Yotea, I think, a lot more.
01:18:49
BeyBlade
They're just more apparent, least to me they were. Yeah.
01:18:51
megadong
Yeah, because like yeah i mean yeah like there is a clear distinction between playing a game like God of War and playing Ghost of Yotei, which are technically under the same...
01:18:58
BeyBlade
A hundred percent.
01:19:00
megadong
which are technically like They're technically under the same...
01:19:03
megadong
umbrella because they're both so sony published um games but you'd like you know just
01:19:06
BeyBlade
Yeah. I mean, and they argue there's the argument that like Ghost of Yote is like a budget comparatively ah to to it was like Time War.
01:19:16
megadong
yeah that's the thing because like what do you think is the most expensive game ever like probably red dead 2 is probably the most expensive game ever made right besides besides i mean besides because you know besides that like what a game that's out right now a game that actually exists yeah
01:19:22
BeyBlade
Yeah. It's got it.
01:19:22
Steve-O
I thought it was Grand Theft.
01:19:22
billfrankenstein
Grant, I thought I was six.
01:19:23
Steve-O
Yeah, Grand Theft 6. Oh.
01:19:27
BeyBlade
Yeah, you know what?
01:19:28
BeyBlade
Yeah, development ongoing, dude.
01:19:29
Steve-O
Non-Rockstar made title.
01:19:33
megadong
No, but I was just kidding. A game that actually exists right now that people can play, like the most expensive game probably would be Red Dead 2 or like The Last of Us Part 2, I would say.
01:19:45
Steve-O
Most expensive video game ever made excluding Rockstar titles. Genshin Impact. $900 million.
01:19:52
megadong
and To develop that game?
01:19:53
Steve-O
to develop development cost exceeding.
01:19:55
megadong
Is that just is most of that just like upkeep, like maintenance, and engineering like on the back end?
01:19:59
Steve-O
It might be, it might be marketing too. i don't know. Star Citizen is probably the second one with 700 million.
01:20:05
megadong
Oh my god, that game.
01:20:06
billfrankenstein
That's crazy.
01:20:07
Steve-O
Cyberpunk also on the list.
01:20:10
megadong
That makes sense. That makes sense.
01:20:11
billfrankenstein
That makes sense.
01:20:11
megadong
And then Witcher 4 will probably be up there when whenever that...
01:20:15
megadong
Devin, what do you think costs more money? GTA 6 or Witcher 4? To make.
01:20:24
billfrankenstein
I think Witcher 4 going to cost...
01:20:24
BeyBlade
Because that game's been... Yeah.
01:20:27
megadong
Did you see the x-ray of the horse that was running, Devin? And the muscles? Well, actually, Rockstar does all that shit, too.
01:20:34
BeyBlade
I was going to say, yeah.
01:20:34
megadong
They could they could probably do that with the with human beings.
01:20:35
BeyBlade
Did you see the testicles getting smaller?
01:20:39
BeyBlade
Yeah, each human has their testicle physics, dude.
01:20:39
billfrankenstein
Witcher 4 is still going to cost the same amount of money.
01:20:42
megadong
When they show... Yeah, when somebody zoomed in When somebody zoomed in on on just one frame...
01:20:43
Steve-O
The testicle physics, yeah. Yeah.
01:20:47
megadong
Like, one frame of the GTA 6 trailer where he's holding that six-pack of beer and, like, each bottle has, like, independent physics of the of the beer inside of it.
01:20:56
BeyBlade
Yeah, dude, it's insane.
01:20:58
megadong
Like, that is so crazy. No, but yeah, like, so, like... Yeah, so, like, you know, it's... obviously clear obscure does not have all that i mean you could tell i mean that it even has like but i kind of i kind of took that as like a but i kind of took that as like a i mean i don't i didn't play final fantasy 7 rebirth but like um or remake or whatever the fuck whatever the fuck that the name is but like like i kind of took that vibe as like a retro throwback to when it because it does shift I respect that they kept the hair and the clothes that you're wearing in the, in like the, I want to say FMVs in the, the FMV cut scenes, but like, you know, the frame rate drops the fucking, the, the uh the ken burns filters on when the when the when the cutscene starts so you could tell you're in you know you what mean like and i you know i don't want to shit on it but like you play like red dead 2 and like the last of us and it's like literally and god war and it's literally seamless transition from yeah it's like you're yeah it's and it's like you know it's weird because you i kind of get used to playing a game that's like that so it kind of took
01:21:09
BeyBlade
Yeah. not Neither do 99% of them. Yeah.
01:22:01
Steve-O
Yeah, your character just walks into it.
01:22:12
megadong
I don't want to say pulled me out of the game, because the game's amazing. of Scurps is an amazing game itself. But, like, you know, that's, like, one thing that, like, you know, oh, well, I'll check that off the list. Like, that's that's one thing that I notice.
01:22:23
BeyBlade
ah no Listen, there are moments while playing Claire Obscure where I could visualize in five years, oh, they're going to remaster this with like a different engine, you know, and everything's just going to be prettier.
01:22:38
BeyBlade
like Like this year, like a month ago when I was playing the game, I was like, oh, man, the PS5.
01:22:44
megadong
sony Sony is going to buy...
01:22:45
BeyBlade
When they throw the Halo engine, the Unreal.
01:22:46
megadong
Sony is going to buy... Sony is going to buy Sandfall Interactive and they're going to release the PS6 edition.
01:22:47
BeyBlade
Yeah. when the unreal eight engine fucking hits clear obscure, you know, you'll, you'll be able to tell.
01:22:56
megadong
Dude, they can't do that, right? Would that be a huge fucking self-seppuku of a company if they if they you know if they made out made out like Bungie and went to an Activision or went to...
01:23:09
Steve-O
Is that what's going to happen?
01:23:10
megadong
yeah too no, no, I'm not...
01:23:10
Steve-O
Are they going to get turned into a multiplayer only studio suddenly?
01:23:13
megadong
No, no. Well, i'm not I'm not saying that it is going happen, but, like, would that be the most depressing thing to read if you saw that, like, you know, a big fucking, like, Sony or or um even even, like, a even, like,
01:23:26
BeyBlade
That'd be like when The Rock joined the corporation, dude.
01:23:29
Steve-O
Microsoft buying Larian Studios would be so depressing.
01:23:33
megadong
what if like what if, like, CD Projekt Red bought them? Like, would that lessen the blow?
01:23:38
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah, because that's not Activision.
01:23:40
BeyBlade
That's not Microsoft.
01:23:40
megadong
It's not the same.
01:23:42
BeyBlade
Yeah, it would still be odd, but yeah.
01:23:45
Steve-O
There's definitely certain companies where when they do that, it's a jeer. Just ea ah Activision, Microsoft now, I guess. um Even like current Sony. I think old Sony, you would have been psyched for it. Current Sony, where they have this weird fascination of trying to get a multiplayer game.
01:24:09
Steve-O
It makes things a little dicey. I think Sony would probably be the best option.
01:24:14
Steve-O
but it would still be a little disheartening.
01:24:18
megadong
Yeah, okay. Yeah, okay, because like because I know my my prediction is like like this game is is great is amazing as it is, but I just feel like the next game that they do is is going to be you know their masterpiece.
01:24:35
megadong
like that like That's going to be the the refined experience that that people are calling this game now. like I think that Clare of Skirt 2 is going to be is goingnna be what everybody
01:24:47
megadong
is hyperbole, hyperbole, uh, describing Claire obscure now is, you know, I think the next game is going to be more way more refined.
01:24:55
Steve-O
That's going to be their silk song. Like,
01:24:57
BeyBlade
Of that math game?
01:24:58
megadong
I mean, I mean, i don't know.
01:24:59
BeyBlade
don't know. I don't know.
01:25:00
megadong
I mean, i mean, i I jury's still out on whether people like it more or not, or think it's better than Holland, the original or not. I think a lot of the players will all agree that they're the, you know, the the diehards will all agree that they're both amazing, but I feel like, you know, it's,
01:25:18
megadong
first one was special, you know, but like, I don't, I don't know. Yeah. It might be their silk song. it They'll just never, it'll just never come out for eight years.
01:25:26
Steve-O
just sitting as they work on it.
01:25:28
Steve-O
just sitting sitting as they work on it
01:25:29
megadong
but even, yeah, even the, the team cherry thing is, is, ah is an interesting story too, because, you know, this is the second game. They didn't expand. They didn't sell.
01:25:42
megadong
They still gave the game out to their kickstarters for free. They still gave the sequel out to their kickstarters for free. And, um you know, but it's ah it's a weird story because, you know, the marketing wasn't the best because they didn't say anything to anybody for eight years and then they just shadow dropped it.
01:25:58
megadong
Do you guys prefer that? Like if a game was like a sooner release date and then...
01:26:03
BeyBlade
I think there's a there's like there's a dance, right? you gotta You gotta do the dance a little bit. like Because what Silksong did, which was the problem, was they announced the trailer and then, what, five years went by? um so So that's a huge bad thing.
01:26:22
BeyBlade
But then it's like it's weird when ah when a studio's quiet for too long.
01:26:23
megadong
Well, yeah, I guess and team chair yeah in Team defense, it started off as DLC for Hollow Knight, and then they ended up just making it a way bigger, like a whole game, which is completely different.
01:26:36
Steve-O
Which I respect that because if you look on the other end, we were talking about Cuphead.
01:26:41
Steve-O
It Cuphead five years to make their DLC.
01:26:46
billfrankenstein
Wow, really?
01:26:46
megadong
Which is great, which is great DLC, by the way, too.
01:26:50
Steve-O
I'm sure it's great, but like,
01:26:50
billfrankenstein
guess it's the animation, right?
01:26:52
megadong
Yeah. No, I mean, so is Hollow Knight. It's literally the same... It's a similar system as Cuphead. Everything is hand-drawn for Hollow Knight.
01:27:01
megadong
Although, I don't know if it's, like, hand-drawn on paper, like, Disney movies from the 90s, like Cuphead was. But, um... But I know everything is hand-drawn on Hollow Knight.
01:27:12
megadong
Every frame. So... And again, it's only three... mean, i don't know how many people are in Studio MDHR, but there's literally, like, two guys... They say three people, but, like, one of them is, like, doesn't actually like really get into the game like the other two guys are so it's literally like two guys making this game so i mean that and and that's like you know like this that also goes to to show like the weird discussion that because like you know that kotaku put that article out which was kind of shitty and tasteless about claire obscura shouldn't be nominated for the for the indie game awards or whatever because it costs x amount of millions of dollars to make But it's like, what is the definition of an indie game at this point?
01:27:55
BeyBlade
Yeah, it's ah it's it's definitely vague at this point.
01:27:58
billfrankenstein
this happened with movies it happened with movies because there was that whole indie movement in like the 2000s and then it just became a genre like people it's independently financed yeah independently financed independently produced
01:28:08
megadong
Yeah, so what so what do you call an indie movie?
01:28:10
megadong
is just is it Before, it's an independently produced independently produced film, right? like That's what it was before. So like was hereditary an indie movie?
01:28:22
billfrankenstein
I don't think so was produced it right
01:28:27
billfrankenstein
Like, that's...
01:28:27
Steve-O
That checks out, right?
01:28:28
megadong
Oh yeah. What's an indie movie then Chris? Like kids?
01:28:31
billfrankenstein
it's It's independently... Yeah, yes.
01:28:34
megadong
Kids is an indie movie? Like kid like yeah like like like those those types of movies where it's just like a dude and with a handicap?
01:28:35
billfrankenstein
One million percent, yes. Yeah. Kids, Blair Witch, Blair Witch Project, Paranormal Activity.
01:28:40
BeyBlade
Like Clerks? Yeah, the first Clerks movie.
01:28:44
billfrankenstein
Sorry, that's just where my head is going.
01:28:45
megadong
What are some indie movies of recent time? that you could think of.
01:28:48
billfrankenstein
um Paranormal Activity, just said that one. um
01:28:51
billfrankenstein
Most recently...
01:28:55
megadong
Like, is Anora an indie movie?
01:28:58
Steve-O
ah Dial of Destiny.
01:28:59
billfrankenstein
Dial Destiny.
01:29:01
BeyBlade
No, because the Nora was a 24, think. I don't know.
01:29:04
billfrankenstein
Yeah. I mean, think...
01:29:05
megadong
But and but a twenty four used to be that type of studio, right?
01:29:09
billfrankenstein
If I recall correctly about Enora, I believe it was independently financed, but it was distributed ah a twenty four If if i could be wrong about that, could swear that was the case.
01:29:21
Steve-O
Is... I'm looking this up. This can't be right. this This is saying that Wicked for Good is technically an indie movie.
01:29:30
megadong
Well, no, I mean, like...
01:29:32
megadong
so and then that that's the That's the thing I was going to say. like when when um
01:29:36
billfrankenstein
ridiculous.
01:29:37
megadong
When Bungie let themselves go from Activision, technically Destiny was an indie product. Because they're independently... It's an independent studio that's publishing their own game.
01:29:48
billfrankenstein
You know, actually, now that I think about it, a twenty four I think for a long time, or at least recently, is just buying movies.
01:29:57
megadong
So, they yeah, they just buy the rights to movies that people...
01:29:57
BeyBlade
Yeah, they're just distributing, right?
01:29:58
Steve-O
That makes sense. That makes sense.
01:29:59
billfrankenstein
I think. I think they did produce for a long time and now that whole that whole mentality has changed.
01:30:06
megadong
Like, did you guys see The Farewell? The Awkwafina movie from a few years ago?
01:30:12
megadong
It was really good.
01:30:13
billfrankenstein
Yeah, actually, I did. think that was...
01:30:14
megadong
Yeah, like, would you... Would you count that? Like, does that is that an indie movie?
01:30:20
billfrankenstein
I think that was another 824 movie.
01:30:21
megadong
I mean, it was released in theaters.
01:30:25
megadong
See, these these are the... the Like, your your struggles right now are is, like... It's kind of how I feel about some of these games.
01:30:31
billfrankenstein
It's tough. There is a gray area a lot of times, but like, I guess when it comes down to it, the indie films that I just said, like the one I remember, the most profitable ah was, I think Terrifier took the top point, but Blair Witch was that for for, I don't know how long.
01:30:53
billfrankenstein
Just because like if you look at like percentage and r ROI, it's like, the highest a film has ever gotten, I believe.
01:31:01
Steve-O
Art took the crown.
01:31:03
billfrankenstein
Yeah. Well, I could have swore I read somewhere that Terrifier 2 and 3 were independently financed. And those might be the the highest grossing independent films ever made.
01:31:17
megadong
I have list of American independent films of the 2020s here. I'm trying to see. Holdovers is on this list.
01:31:24
billfrankenstein
Oh, that's cool.
01:31:25
billfrankenstein
I love that movie.
01:31:26
megadong
Past that Past Lives is on here. Poor Things.
01:31:29
billfrankenstein
poor things was?
01:31:29
megadong
Like, do you... I mean, this is list of American independent films.
01:31:34
billfrankenstein
That's crazy. That looked like
01:31:36
megadong
Moonlight? Yo, Moonlight's the best indie movie of all time, I guess. that's If it's on this list!
01:31:41
billfrankenstein
Adam. Yeah. I guess 824 bought that.
01:31:43
megadong
I mean, I... Yeah, I guess that yeah that's weird, right? is It's just like... um And that's because the publisher for Sandfall is... Who published the Clare Obscure?
01:31:54
Steve-O
oh it's uh i was just looking at it a moment ago um kepler
01:31:57
billfrankenstein
Is publishing...
01:31:59
billfrankenstein
similar to distribution
01:31:59
megadong
and And Kepler kepler is ah is a publisher that that publishes a bunch of indie games. So like they could be like the A24, guess, of...
01:32:10
billfrankenstein
i guess yeah sure like there there is no way of getting around distribution and in american cinema like you have to go it bottlenecks right
01:32:11
Steve-O
yeah they've got like pacific drive in there i think
01:32:17
megadong
ah Yeah, a bunch of small games.
01:32:25
billfrankenstein
like everything that is created bottlenecks to distribution. If you want to get your film out to a handful of companies that will actually buy it and either put it on streaming or put it in the theaters.
01:32:38
billfrankenstein
So it sucks.
01:32:38
Steve-O
Yeah, that's a... Mm-hmm.
01:32:42
billfrankenstein
It sucks. It's a, I guess that's their way of saying, well, the cream rises to the top. Well, no, no, no. I think it's just the bottleneck.
01:32:49
megadong
Yeah, so it's like so it's like ah like ah like a game like Megabonk.
01:32:55
megadong
Since there's like one dude that did the whole thing, like does that make the game more indie than like Hades 2?
01:33:03
BeyBlade
I mean, what what did he pull himself from? Was it debut? Because like, it's definitely, Megabod definitely indie, right?
01:33:08
megadong
Yeah, best... day Yeah.
01:33:10
BeyBlade
But debut indie is...
01:33:11
billfrankenstein
I actually,
01:33:12
megadong
Yeah, but what I'm getting at, Devin, is like like there's a clear this distinction and difference between a game like Megabonk and a game like Claire Obscure Expedition 33.
01:33:23
megadong
And they were both nominated for the same award, which was Best Debut Indie Game.
01:33:29
Steve-O
It's like you're looking at it It's like best debut indie game. It's like Blueprints.
01:33:34
Steve-O
Despilot, Dispatch, Claire Obscure Expedition 33.
01:33:38
megadong
Yeah, it's like...
01:33:39
Steve-O
It doesn't fit in that lineup.
01:33:41
megadong
Yeah, and and I think that's like...
01:33:43
billfrankenstein
Thank you.
01:33:43
megadong
it's also It's also telling just how much traction that game in particular... made like how many waves it made this year because this is the discussion right like if nobody played this game or if it you know if it got like a 75 on metacritic or some shit and um
01:34:04
Steve-O
if no one on the Claire Obscure team had made a game before this, maybe, but there had to have been somebody who worked on some game.
01:34:13
BeyBlade
No, I mean, no, the Claire Obscure team literally were a bunch of Ubisoft employees that the left.
01:34:21
BeyBlade
They wanted to make Claire Obscure, but they knew they they knew there was no way they were going to be able to get that made, you know, staying at Ubisoft.
01:34:29
Steve-O
Is this just like them being like, here is a bunch of like seasoned game devs who went and like made a new studio like.
01:34:40
megadong
Yeah, what I'm getting is, like, should they have pulled themselves from the best debut indie game title, too? You know?
01:34:47
BeyBlade
I mean, i think at the end of the day, because it's the Game Awards, like, I don't know how serious one can even take it.
01:34:59
BeyBlade
You know, they're just going to take the easy W, right?
01:34:59
megadong
Because I feel like...
01:35:03
megadong
Yeah, I know. and Yeah, but, like, also, like...
01:35:03
BeyBlade
Because the awards, yeah.
01:35:07
megadong
The thing is, is like I feel like the guy that did Megabonk... What is his name again? Danny Dev? Or what whatever. the Backwards Danny Dev.
01:35:15
BeyBlade
Something like that, yeah.
01:35:16
Steve-O
oh john john megabonk
01:35:17
megadong
yeah john but Yeah, he signed his tweet as John Megabonk.
01:35:23
megadong
I think his his um his intent with pulling himself is because he didn't want to take the spotlight away from studios that actually did make a brand new...
01:35:36
megadong
game that should be acknowledged, you know, which is a huge fucking awesome W on, from on his own.
01:35:41
BeyBlade
Yeah, but like at the same time, at the same time, I would argue that like Claire Obscure is a wonderful example
01:35:46
megadong
Fucking Daredevil is, Daredevil is in their game, dude. This is what I'm saying.
01:35:50
BeyBlade
yeah No, no, but but i'm saying I'm saying I think...
01:35:52
megadong
Is Daredevil in Megapunk?
01:35:53
Steve-O
How far are you in Megabonk?
01:35:55
Steve-O
How far are you in Megabonk?
01:35:56
BeyBlade
No, no, but like, you like listen, and listen, listen, listen.
01:35:57
billfrankenstein
You didn't show up yet for me.
01:35:59
BeyBlade
Like, Claire Obscure is a wonderful example of of that working, though, right? Of this is a debut... Game. Yeah. Like debut indie game, debut game. I don't know, because it's like this is what you this is the success story. Hey, if you're stuck working in Activision, EA, Ubisoft, and you're just like, dude, like I have all these ideas. There's just like no way I'm going to be able to get in a room to get the funding to do this.
01:36:28
megadong
find another publisher and they'll make your game.
01:36:28
BeyBlade
Make Claire's no, no, but it's like, but it's no, no.
01:36:31
BeyBlade
Or it's, or do, or it's do what the Claire obscure guys did. Just leave and then just make your own game. And they did it. That's the success story. So I do think it's like, it's worth being nominated for.
01:36:31
megadong
They'll fund your game.
01:36:46
BeyBlade
i think, cause like you want to be able to point to that and be like, look, that's how, that's how it's done. Right. That's how you can, that is a successful Avenue that you can now follow.
01:36:58
BeyBlade
And I think they just kind of like pull it.
01:36:58
megadong
Right, but like but the yeah but the thing yeah but the thing on the other end is is like you know John Megabonk just wants to make ah a fun game on his own like this.
01:37:09
megadong
And like those games like this should be a should be acknowledged.
01:37:10
BeyBlade
I don't think John Megabonk should have pulled himself though. Like I think he, it would have been fine. No one would have cared.
01:37:16
megadong
Yeah, but but the message he was trying to convey was he didn't deserve to be on there because this isn't his debut game.
01:37:23
BeyBlade
But that's like his own weird hangup. Like, I don't think like, to me I'm like, okay.
01:37:26
megadong
I mean, I kind of agree with him, though.
01:37:29
Steve-O
A big respect for John Megabonk. You know what?
01:37:31
billfrankenstein
Yeah, I respect it too. Like, I think it's just a way of saying, like, I don't want to overshadow first time creators when I've been here. I've been doing this for so long.
01:37:41
billfrankenstein
Like, that's fair.
01:37:42
megadong
He doesn't want to overshadow them like some other developers that have worked in AAA studios that are in the same boat.
01:37:48
BeyBlade
Nah, dude. They want that. Give that fat dub, dude.
01:37:51
Steve-O
It's funny because it's like the games that ah the supposed creator of Megabonk made are like crab game. Like, it's just like, it's just like small, small, like steam games that like, those are.
01:38:01
billfrankenstein
crab game? Really?
01:38:02
BeyBlade
yeah It's just like it click Steam Slop, right?
01:38:03
billfrankenstein
The crab game?
01:38:04
BeyBlade
Isn't it like Steam Slop that he put out? I'm not saying it's bad, but it's just like
01:38:10
megadong
But those are those are indie games, though. I think that's what he's trying to say. is like this is It's in the same vein. It's in the same vein.
01:38:16
megadong
you know and i mean And I mean, the same ah could could be said about...
01:38:22
megadong
you know i mean, granted, Team Cherry is a small team, but like you know like that kind of toes the line, too. Because like they this was a... I don't want to say it's a multi-million dollar project, but like they knew they were going to make they knew they were gonna make so much money that they didn't they didn't charge $50 for this game that people would have put paid $70 for, you know?
01:38:45
megadong
So, like, it's also a huge game that made waves because it was so popular. And so, you know, but some people, you know, it's the most anticipated game, one of them. it was It's this and Bloodborne 2. Like, it's...
01:38:57
megadong
And GTA 6. And, like, two of them are off the board now, so it's everyone's like, now it's... Everyone's gonna get go to get to focus on Bloodborne 2 now. But it's like, you know, it's it's not like you know, it would, i dont I don't know. It's, it's just a weird debut indie game is such a weird, um, it's such a weird category because like you also like, like the the argument for Claire Obscure is like, this is their, the best debut indie game because there's going to be more Claire Obscures after this. And it's pretty, it's pretty obvious at this point.
01:39:35
Steve-O
They don't do a best debut indie film.
01:39:40
BeyBlade
Yeah, I feel like, I'll be honest, it's only because like I don't think anyone's ever paid attention to this, but like what were the last few best debut indie games like
Ken Burns Documentaries
01:39:51
BeyBlade
of the in years past?
01:39:54
BeyBlade
you know it's Basically, it's ah it's a category nobody gave a shit about.
01:40:00
Steve-O
That checks. That checks. That checks.
01:40:01
megadong
Inscription. Vampire Survivors.
01:40:05
megadong
Dave the Diver. Well, actually, Dave the div dave the Diver is not indie game.
01:40:08
megadong
That that caused some fucking... Some huge stink.
01:40:11
BeyBlade
Yeah. i to To the argument's point and against my argument, like I do remember hearing about that.
01:40:13
Steve-O
cocoon stray and a
01:40:18
BeyBlade
People are like, ah is it really because like they were published basically by some like arm of like EA or activism or something like that?
01:40:25
megadong
Oh yeah, and then and Cocoon won in 2023. That's the guy that made Inside and Limbo. So I don't know. Maybe that guy shouldn't have been... like That's not...
01:40:36
megadong
that's not um like That might have been the first Cocoon game, right?
01:40:41
megadong
You know? ah like
01:40:43
megadong
But like that's the dude that made Inside and Limbo, two fucking masterpiece games that that are highly rated and very popular.
01:40:52
megadong
Same developer. Right. Or different name. That guy took his fucking award, put on a shelf.
01:40:59
Steve-O
That is that is weird because it's like, how do you how do you do this? How do you handle this? Because it's like you can best debut indie film. You could be like, is this the first movie that this director has ever made?
01:41:12
Steve-O
This is like a team of people like I i know there's a director for the game, but. Like it.
01:41:18
megadong
Yeah, this is kind of like, this is a weird, um this is to be a weird shitty comparison that I'm going to make. But it's kind of like Zack Snyder making Rebel Moon, right? Because like it's like it's his own fucking thing that he didn't, you know... He didn't need create a a movie for a big... Well, I guess it technically it is for big studio, but it's his own thing, right?
01:41:42
Steve-O
That was Zach Zider. I'm sorry. That was Zach Zider who made that.
01:41:45
billfrankenstein
Zach Zider?
01:41:47
megadong
yeah You know what I This is kind of like if Zack Snyder was getting...
01:41:48
billfrankenstein
guy sounds great.
01:41:52
megadong
ah an award for Rebel Moon for his his first movie. Even though he's done Superman and he's done Man man of Steel.
01:41:57
BeyBlade
but that's small but that small publisher Netflix
01:42:00
billfrankenstein
i you like You know what's funny about this thing?
01:42:03
billfrankenstein
He'd never get an award.
01:42:06
billfrankenstein
That's like the funniest thing about it.
01:42:08
megadong
But yeah, like the Cocoon guy fucking took his award and went home.
01:42:12
BeyBlade
yeah that's what I mean it's kind of like I don't know
01:42:14
megadong
But it's like, like couldn I don't it's you know. it's just It's just weird to me. and That was 2023 was the first time they they brought brought that in there.
01:42:27
megadong
So 2022 didn't have it. Stray won best independent game 2022.
01:42:34
billfrankenstein
Kitty cat game.
01:42:35
Steve-O
The kitty cat game.
01:42:36
BeyBlade
is a kitty cat game.
01:42:38
billfrankenstein
I have actually forgot that I watched something and it is an independent project, actually. i think entirely independent. Literally produced by the public broadcasting system and distributed. it is the American Revolution by Ken Burns.
01:42:59
billfrankenstein
Started watching that and it is fascinating. To learn about the Revolutionary War. And to learn about how fucking shitty George Washington who was.
01:43:14
billfrankenstein
Just a complete shithead.
01:43:16
billfrankenstein
um Long story short, we basically got into war with England because George Washington wanted more land. And England was like, no, no, no, just just focus on the colonies. It's too expensive. And he's like, fuck you. I want to make Long Virginia.
01:43:34
billfrankenstein
And there's literally a map of Virginia extending all the way across America. And that was his idea.
01:43:42
Steve-O
Hey, man, come on. You're selling me on Long Virginia.
01:43:43
BeyBlade
It worked out. I guess it worked out in the end.
01:43:48
Steve-O
I'm looking it up right now.
01:43:48
billfrankenstein
a He brought his slave boy companion with him to each one of the largest battles of the American Revolution.
01:43:57
billfrankenstein
um He had 301 slaves, men, women, and children. And He was only beaten out by Thomas Jefferson, who had 516 slaves of varying ages.
01:44:12
billfrankenstein
ah Yeah, it's ah it's a hell of a watch. Also, Paul Revere looks exactly like Jack Black.
01:44:19
BeyBlade
Is it really a hell of a watch?
01:44:21
billfrankenstein
I think it's a hell of a watch. cause
01:44:23
Steve-O
how how many like is it is it like the baseball series okay
01:44:26
billfrankenstein
So yeah, I think it's going to be six episodes. Each episode's two hours, or around an hour and 40 minutes.
01:44:33
BeyBlade
Aren't Ken Burns, like, I'm not saying they're not good, but aren't they, like, famously a little dry? Ken Burns documentary.
01:44:39
billfrankenstein
They're dry to an extent where it's like, it's just a shotgun blast of information.
01:44:45
Steve-O
it's they're very informative
01:44:46
billfrankenstein
They're super dense, super informative. And it usually, he finds these like little just details of things that just makes these people feel more like real.
01:44:59
billfrankenstein
And George Washington, John Adams is a, is the fucking man in so many ways. Like, they had the first Continental Congress and he's like, all the men that are here are great orators and great philosophers and great political minds and they have to let everybody know it.
01:45:20
billfrankenstein
Like, it's just like, it's shit like that. Like, that is the shit he'll drag up and you're like, oh, these were really cool. Some of these people were really cool and some of them were not, were very complex and very awful in a lot of ways.
01:45:39
billfrankenstein
Yeah, I love it. I think it's fantastic.
01:45:43
Steve-O
I think you could credit Ken Burns as like the inspiration for the YouTube essayist.
01:45:50
billfrankenstein
Yeah, dude, he's the he's the guy. He's the father of YouTube essays because it's just so much real historical knowledge, and it but he also makes it very character-focused.
01:46:07
billfrankenstein
So you you learn more about them as people and what they've gone through. before like George Washington lost a battle when he was a commander during the French-Indian War.
01:46:20
billfrankenstein
And he basically... The Indians were outnumbered by the British, but the Indians still won. And it was the beginning there where he was like, oh, well, that's how you beat the British Army. You know?
01:46:32
billfrankenstein
like And then he got... He got basically not, he didn't get promoted and he was upset because the British, British army didn't promote him to any type of position.
01:46:44
billfrankenstein
And that's really what started his hatred of Britain. He didn't get what he wanted. And like, he also talks about how like all of the people in his class, this is what Ken Burns was saying. They were like, they were all those like selfish people.
01:46:59
billfrankenstein
They just really cared about themselves. And when you serve them like an insult or an indignity, they just kept it and didn't forget about
01:47:08
BeyBlade
Yeah, because that was the era of fucking getting in into duels and shit still.
01:47:12
billfrankenstein
it. Yeah, dude, exactly.
01:47:14
BeyBlade
You know, like that was like, I'll shoot you in the street.
01:47:15
billfrankenstein
or It's shit that you don't know about. you do Or at least didn't think about in that context and applied to the American Revolution. It's quite fascinating.
01:47:26
Steve-O
What is the song?
01:47:26
billfrankenstein
This is on PBS.
01:47:28
Steve-O
How did you watch it? PBS, okay.
01:47:31
billfrankenstein
So you can watch it streaming if you have Comcast, but think it's online. I think it's free. it's It's literally like I've watched all of his documentaries in some shape or form.
Movie Trailers and Adaptations
01:47:43
BeyBlade
Yeah, but Chris, I was watching a show about samurais in a death match.
01:47:46
billfrankenstein
yeah that
01:47:48
megadong
This is the best debut in the documentary about the Revolutionary War.
01:47:54
billfrankenstein
I think I'm giving it a B award.
01:47:56
BeyBlade
Ken Burns has been around for a minute, man.
01:47:56
Steve-O
No, sorry. Sorry, it's going up against HBO's John Adams. No.
01:48:01
billfrankenstein
yeah that's not uh yeah I really like it it's not for everybody that I fully admit I watched so far I've watched jazz and Vietnam those are the two Ken Burns series that I've seen i heard baseball is fantastic that's like the other one that that's the only one I haven't and the Civil War I've heard that was really good too
01:48:16
Steve-O
Baseball's very good.
01:48:24
Steve-O
Yeah, i remember that one being...
01:48:27
Steve-O
being one of the major ones.
01:48:28
billfrankenstein
Yeah, jazz and and Vietnam was a brutal one. It was pretty dark, too. But it's fascinating. um Yeah, I really like it. It's Mary for me.
01:48:41
Steve-O
Marry that can burns.
01:48:43
billfrankenstein
Two episodes deep.
01:48:43
BeyBlade
Are you finished?
01:48:44
billfrankenstein
Two episodes deep. I got more.
01:48:47
Steve-O
what is it What is going on?
01:48:48
billfrankenstein
What happened?
01:48:48
BeyBlade
those me That was me kicking my desk out of range.
01:48:50
Steve-O
thought i thought you were in a garage and it just started going up.
01:48:54
Steve-O
I'm like, oh fuck.
01:48:56
billfrankenstein
Everything's collapsing in on him.
01:48:58
Steve-O
Oh no, it's folding.
01:48:58
billfrankenstein
That's it sounded like his wall was falling on him.
01:49:05
Steve-O
Let's get into some of our news and trailers.
01:49:08
billfrankenstein
News and trailers!
01:49:13
billfrankenstein
So, did you guys watch this fucking Hail Mary trailer?
01:49:19
billfrankenstein
Okay, so, um you know what, John?
01:49:20
megadong
What's it about?
01:49:23
billfrankenstein
Don't watch it.
01:49:23
megadong
you know who Is it a horror movie?
01:49:26
billfrankenstein
Don't watch it.
01:49:26
megadong
is is the is the Is the background narration just the Hail Mary prayer going on in the background?
01:49:31
billfrankenstein
I think they spoiled something pretty significant from the book in this trailer. And I thought they were going to hold on to this, but I guess not. So...
01:49:40
BeyBlade
like Yeah, I guess. Like, they kind of spoil... they If it's what I think it is, they touch on it in the first trailer.
01:49:46
billfrankenstein
They did?
01:49:48
billfrankenstein
Okay, all right.
01:49:48
BeyBlade
I mean, if it's what I think... ah they You don't see the whole thing, but...
01:49:52
billfrankenstein
Okay. All right. I wasn't sure. I always thought this one was a little bit more revealing.
01:49:56
BeyBlade
yeah Yeah, this one was definitely more of a reveal. But I guess it's, to me, it's kind of one of those things where it's like, it feels like you can't talk about the book without talking about the reveal.
01:50:10
BeyBlade
I guess it'd be hard to talk around it.
01:50:10
billfrankenstein
I guess.
01:50:12
BeyBlade
So they just said, you know, fuck it. Let's just come right out there.
01:50:14
billfrankenstein
It was kind of shocking reading it in the book, though, I will say.
01:50:17
BeyBlade
Yeah. how deep yeah
01:50:17
billfrankenstein
I didn't expect that.
01:50:20
billfrankenstein
Because that that was where I was... that's where I kind of come up against it a little bit because it's like reading that in the book, you're like, it's survival book. And then that happens and you're like, oh what? You know, it's kind of shocking.
01:50:34
billfrankenstein
um But I don't know. I guess you're right. I guess they do have to sell it as part of the movie. Cause it's a big part of the book. um was little unsure about this trailer.
01:50:46
billfrankenstein
I feel like it showed a little too much.
01:50:49
BeyBlade
Yeah, I mean, for sure. It's just kind of one of those, like, I saw this one and I was like, I don't need to see another one, right? Like, this is...
01:50:57
billfrankenstein
That's for damn sure.
01:50:58
BeyBlade
i'm not I'm not the type of guy that refuses to watch any trailers. I understand why some people might be that way. I just... I need to see something, right? But I i have a cutoff point, and usually it's it's by vibes, and this was...
01:51:14
BeyBlade
you know I do not need to see a third trailer for this movie. You know what I mean?
01:51:19
billfrankenstein
I guess too, it would probably have felt more like the Martian if it was just the survival aspects. Of being in there.
01:51:27
BeyBlade
Yeah, and maybe they were just like, yeah, we're... this needs to be distinct from that.
01:51:33
billfrankenstein
Okay. All right. And what else is next? day
01:51:37
BeyBlade
So, you know, got John, do watch it. not Now you're allowed. You're allowed to watch it now.
01:51:41
Steve-O
You're allowed to watch.
01:51:42
billfrankenstein
Yeah. Yeah. I guess you should watch it.
01:51:47
billfrankenstein
Moana. Moana.
01:51:49
megadong
Ugh, it looks so bad.
01:51:50
BeyBlade
So, yeah, I mean, you know, they're on this trend.
01:51:58
Steve-O
They're real now.
01:51:58
BeyBlade
of a Of making movies.
01:52:03
billfrankenstein
Yeah, they have to make movies, Devin.
01:52:03
BeyBlade
With... why that I know.
01:52:04
billfrankenstein
That's how they make money.
01:52:05
BeyBlade
i just It's so fucking weird, man. And...
01:52:12
BeyBlade
This is far too quick.
01:52:13
Steve-O
When was the last one of these that hit?
01:52:16
BeyBlade
The live action?
01:52:16
Steve-O
Or do they all hit?
01:52:19
BeyBlade
i think they all hit. like Stitch hit pretty big.
01:52:22
Steve-O
Stitch hit. Oh, damn it.
01:52:23
BeyBlade
ah The Lion King...
01:52:26
Steve-O
The Lion King definitely hit.
01:52:27
BeyBlade
Air quote, air quote, live action. You know what I mean? ah the The realistic retelling of Lion King made a bill.
01:52:38
Steve-O
Didn't the ah the Seven Dwarves, Snow White and the Seven Dwarves, didn't hit?
01:52:41
BeyBlade
that one did not hit.
01:52:43
BeyBlade
That one was a big old bomb. It was a big old stinker.
01:52:46
Steve-O
A big ol' stinker.
01:52:46
BeyBlade
that That was like one of those things where I think you could have seen that one coming.
01:52:50
billfrankenstein
Why not just cast live action dwarves instead of making them CGI?
01:52:52
BeyBlade
You could seen...
01:52:55
BeyBlade
yeah Or like, hey, this lead actress is saying some things that's like making her very unpopular. Hey, this is also a very dated story and like it's kind of basic and who's really screaming for a snow.
01:53:14
BeyBlade
There's a lot of reasons why that wasn't going work.
01:53:15
billfrankenstein
Steve screams every night for a new Snow White movie.
01:53:18
BeyBlade
Yeah. Why could I get one?
01:53:22
BeyBlade
And then he got it and he said, ew, I hate this.
01:53:22
billfrankenstein
Screams.
01:53:25
Steve-O
i want it i want to just do the scene where they're chopping through the, ah what is it? The briar?
01:53:33
Steve-O
That's Sleeping Beauty. Never mind.
01:53:34
billfrankenstein
That's Sleeping Beauty.
01:53:35
billfrankenstein
What you what are you on
01:53:36
BeyBlade
Yeah, you don't even know, man.
01:53:37
Steve-O
Man, I don't give a shit about no Snow White, man. come Fucking bullshit, man.
01:53:40
BeyBlade
Well, ah I know you guys were talking about leaked.
01:53:41
billfrankenstein
Stop screaming about it then.
01:53:44
BeyBlade
There were leaked photos of Leggen of Zelda.
01:53:47
billfrankenstein
Link taking a leak.
01:53:49
BeyBlade
But then they posted official photos like the day after.
01:53:49
megadong
Yeah, and then...
01:53:52
megadong
Yeah, after after Miyamoto publicly executed the the crew worker that leaked, the...
01:53:58
billfrankenstein
I think this was planned.
01:54:01
Steve-O
I think you're onto something.
01:54:01
megadong
The leaks were planned?
01:54:03
megadong
i don't think the leak was planned, but I think they put this out in response so so people didn't go crazy with the leaks.
01:54:09
billfrankenstein
i i think people, i think they leaked it on purpose because the the the sentiment toward this film was really negative and they had to show it off.
01:54:17
megadong
I... I get is it is negative from you and us or just negative in general?
01:54:21
billfrankenstein
No! from From most people who thought this should have been an animated film.
01:54:26
megadong
That's us, Chris.
01:54:28
billfrankenstein
I think that's most people.
01:54:29
megadong
I don't know if people are just are talking about it like that.
01:54:31
BeyBlade
I don't think this is widely hated.
01:54:32
billfrankenstein
I think so.
01:54:34
BeyBlade
don't. I don't know.
01:54:34
megadong
Yeah, I don't think I think people are I think people are Chris.
01:54:35
billfrankenstein
i think so. i think people.
01:54:37
megadong
That's that's us.
01:54:38
BeyBlade
know you think so.
01:54:38
megadong
you That's our bubble.
01:54:40
billfrankenstein
No, no, no, no, no. I think people were worried this was going to be another Game of Thrones and they needed they needed to show people what this was going to be.
01:54:41
megadong
We think it should be animated.
01:54:49
megadong
yeah I know if... I honestly don't... i didn't i haven't seen I haven't seen any discussion...
01:54:50
BeyBlade
like they don't, they what do they show though? Like they
Zelda Movie and Leaks Debate
01:54:54
BeyBlade
don't show anything.
01:54:54
megadong
i haven't seen any this yeah i haven't seen any discussion about whether people are excited overly excited about it or or people thinking it's going to be bad in general.
01:55:00
billfrankenstein
Well, i've definitely I've definitely read things on Reddit that this should have been an an animated production.
01:55:06
megadong
Yeah, I mean, that's all the...
01:55:07
BeyBlade
I mean, yeah, like I don't know.
01:55:08
megadong
In the r slash cinephile? Yeah, sure, but like...
01:55:11
billfrankenstein
i think that's I think it's fair to assume...
01:55:13
megadong
i don't think I don't think Miyamoto is trolly Reddit and taking their opinion seriously. I'll be honest.
01:55:20
megadong
I don't do i don't know, dude.
01:55:21
billfrankenstein
i disagree. I disagree. I really do. I think this was a planned PR move, and now they're saying it wasn't.
01:55:26
megadong
I don't think so. This isn't this isn't something that... no no cause The thing is, is Nintendo is going to make a bunch of money whether the movie good or not. Or bad or not, anyway.
01:55:34
Steve-O
Nintendo and Sony, Chris. Sony.
01:55:36
megadong
so i don't think matters.
01:55:38
megadong
I... don't think it i don't think it matters i I 95% believe that the league the leaked images were not planned and that they put those official images out because those leaks came out.
01:55:53
megadong
That's why. That's why they did it. I don't think Miyamoto and the the Nintendo movie people are are concerned.
01:56:00
billfrankenstein
I don't think, I don't think Miyamoto had anything to do with this. I think,
01:56:04
megadong
He's the one that posted the fucking images. and so He posted the images himself.
01:56:07
billfrankenstein
No, no, that the these images, sure, but the leaks, I don't think he had anything to do with, obviously.
01:56:08
megadong
The official ones.
01:56:13
megadong
which is why none no no no that's why i i think he put those official ones out because somebody leaked those images yeah i don't think that's some galaxy brain shit that i don't think nintendo is that galaxy brain dude i really don't yeah but this is zelda it's not like you know it's what it's a whatever like it's it's a
01:56:18
billfrankenstein
Oh, oh, the official ones, yes, but I do still think that the leak was intentional.
01:56:26
billfrankenstein
i It's not Nintendo, it's Sony movie slimeballs.
01:56:36
billfrankenstein
They don't care.
01:56:38
megadong
That's what I'm saying. They don't care. So why would they like why would they go out of their way?
01:56:40
billfrankenstein
Because I think
01:56:41
megadong
Why would they mission them why do they would they make a Mission Impossible heist?
01:56:44
billfrankenstein
these people are so and so sensitive to public outcry that they change the way Sonic's eyes look.
01:56:45
megadong
to to I don't know, dude. I don't think... well i mean yeah the thing is is i Yeah, the thing is... Yeah, okay. That...
01:56:55
billfrankenstein
That's what I'm trying to get at here.
01:56:56
BeyBlade
No, no, no, because...
01:56:56
megadong
yeah but Yeah, but that was in response to the trailer that they put out.
01:57:00
megadong
That wasn't from speculation.
01:57:01
billfrankenstein
You're right. That is true.
01:57:02
megadong
don't... that wasn't from speculation
01:57:03
billfrankenstein
But I think people were were poo pooing this idea. I think that is true.
01:57:09
BeyBlade
I think people are just... I mean, just people don't know what to think about this. Like, when I see these photos, I just go, yep, that's Lincoln Delta.
01:57:17
megadong
yeah I just thought i they don't really do they don't do anything for me.
01:57:18
BeyBlade
Like, I don't have a...
01:57:21
megadong
like The leaked photos didn't do anything for me, and i can understand i can understand why Nintendo would want to put official images out because those leaked.
01:57:24
Steve-O
leak has info. Hmm.
01:57:30
billfrankenstein
that That I kind of understand. Yes.
01:57:33
BeyBlade
yeah and i Yeah, and I get why this was leaked, because everyone's like, they're filming a fucking Legend of Zelda movie in the woods where you can just, yeah.
01:57:33
megadong
But I don't i don't think...
01:57:37
megadong
Yeah, everyone's like, yeah, how is this? Yeah, in New Zealand, yeah, it's like,
01:57:40
Steve-O
these These images make me think of just the scenes where they run in Zelda.
01:57:43
billfrankenstein
But they're so planned.
01:57:46
Steve-O
Not Zelda, ah Lord of the Rings.
01:57:47
megadong
yeah the the The images don't really do anything for me.
01:57:47
BeyBlade
Well, dude, they're playing because they're playing because this is probably fucking day 10 of them shooting this.
01:57:53
billfrankenstein
Also, those leaked images look very professional.
01:57:57
billfrankenstein
They looked like somebody was taking them through the foilage around.
01:58:00
megadong
well and then rent and then and then ran the And then ran the fucking 480p filter over it.
01:58:03
BeyBlade
I, were they, it was just them, like.
01:58:07
Steve-O
I would not i would not be
01:58:07
megadong
They got AI to blur it.
01:58:07
billfrankenstein
um I'm going, up went I'm keeping the tinfoil hat on.
01:58:10
Steve-O
Chris, I would not be surprised if that wasn't like their behind the scenes footage and someone just like spit out a few like like clips from it.
01:58:10
megadong
at to That's a strong tinfoil hat.
01:58:19
megadong
like cell phone shots of a screen or something.
01:58:21
Steve-O
Because like like Chris is saying, like these are like very well-framed leak images. like These are like...
01:58:26
billfrankenstein
They are.
01:58:28
megadong
But the quality, yeah, but the image quality, the image quality is shit though.
01:58:28
BeyBlade
are we talking about? Because the
01:58:31
megadong
The image quality is shit on those. So it's like, they're, they they're obviously, they're obviously far away, zoomed in on ah on a cell phone.
01:58:33
BeyBlade
Well, because like the the photos I...
01:58:39
billfrankenstein
They look pretty well framed to me.
01:58:40
billfrankenstein
That's all I'm saying.
01:58:41
BeyBlade
Wait, well, which photos? Because the one I'm looking at, right? Like these are official, right?
01:58:47
Steve-O
I'll put in the shit talk channel.
01:58:48
megadong
why Yeah, the ones that we saw before.
01:58:50
Steve-O
There's like a few like videos and stuff in there too.
01:58:50
megadong
I just don't... I don't think they i don't think they would care enough to to go through the trouble of doing all that, you know?
01:58:55
billfrankenstein
I mean, regardless, we we're never really going to know.
01:58:59
Steve-O
i mean, look at us. We're talking about it. We're hyping it up unintentionally.
01:59:02
billfrankenstein
We're...
01:59:03
megadong
No, but I mean... No, but but what I'd like to say is the the official images they leave didn't really do anything for me anyway, regardless. So it doesn't really matter.
01:59:11
billfrankenstein
Well, that's true, too. I agree.
01:59:13
megadong
they They were kind of whatever-looking.
01:59:13
billfrankenstein
You're kind of vanilla.
01:59:14
Steve-O
I'll tell you what.
01:59:17
Steve-O
John, as a Zelda fan, I'm a little conflicted. I'm like, what is Green Link Tunic doing with Champion Tunic Zelda?
01:59:24
Steve-O
Like, what the fuck are we even doing here? Come on. like
01:59:28
BeyBlade
This shit this chip makes me want to beat you up, man.
01:59:28
megadong
Yeah, is it like, is it a classic, is it a classic case of Halo, the TV show, where they don't have no idea what they're doing with the source material at all, and they they've never played a game?
01:59:38
billfrankenstein
It's like equivalent to if there was a Warhammer 40k movie coming out and they use like orcs from Warcraft.
01:59:43
megadong
Who's this guy? Who is this guy that's directing it?
01:59:45
megadong
What what movies?
01:59:46
megadong
what movie what What Hollywood schlop did this guy put out before?
01:59:51
billfrankenstein
Oh, the Planet of the Apes movie that just came out.
01:59:51
BeyBlade
it's like Yeah, so this guy kind of โ was it the one that just came out or was it โ no, I think it โ isn't it Matt Reeves?
01:59:55
megadong
The non-Matt Reeves Planet the Apes.
02:00:00
billfrankenstein
No, it's the guy the guy that made the Planet of the Apes movie that just came out.
02:00:00
megadong
Matt Reeves is not doing Zelda.
02:00:04
megadong
Wes Ball, that's the guy, yeah.
02:00:06
billfrankenstein
Wes Ball. What is that movie? Land of the Planet of the Apes?
02:00:11
Steve-O
Kingdom of Planet of the Apes.
02:00:12
billfrankenstein
Thank you, Steve.
02:00:12
BeyBlade
Oh, he's the maze runner guy.
02:00:12
Steve-O
And Maze Runner. Yeah.
02:00:14
BeyBlade
The maze runner guy.
02:00:15
megadong
Oh, yeah, yeah, Maze Runner, that's it.
02:00:17
billfrankenstein
Gotta run those mazes.
02:00:17
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah.
02:00:19
megadong
He's perfect to do Zelda.
02:00:22
Steve-O
He worked with children. Get him.
02:00:25
BeyBlade
Yeah, maybe Link will get run over by a car in this one too.
02:00:28
Steve-O
Also, get me that one lady from ah Severance.
02:00:33
billfrankenstein
oh she in this show? Britt Lauer?
02:00:35
Steve-O
She's Impa. No. um ah His.
02:00:39
billfrankenstein
oh the yeah Oh, what's...
02:00:39
megadong
there's a couple There's a couple people from Severance, right?
02:00:40
billfrankenstein
then Yes. It was the guy's wife. What's his name?
02:00:46
Steve-O
Mark Hamill apparently playing in the King of Hyrule.
02:00:48
billfrankenstein
archive How you feel about that
02:00:53
BeyBlade
That's just i cant i refuse I refuse to have an opinion until I see a trailer.
02:00:53
Steve-O
You're joker, baby.
02:00:58
billfrankenstein
that? I refuse to have an opinion until I see a Goron.
02:00:58
megadong
Yeah, no. and I mean, even, yeah, that that being said, too, it's like,
02:00:59
Steve-O
Yeah, and I agree with you. but
02:01:02
BeyBlade
All right, that's fair.
02:01:05
megadong
I think said too, it's like, I didn't really have an opinion on the Sonic movie until I watched the whole movie and I thought it was, it was pretty good. It was okay. So, but the thing is like, that's Sonic. It doesn't really, that doesn't really matter to me as much as Zelda does. So, but again, I don't have a, like I'm going into this like I did with the Mario movie where it's like, I'm, it's going to be a Mario movie and it might be fun. And it was fun.
Knives Out and Other Movie Projects
02:01:30
megadong
And this is, but Zelda is not really the same vibes as more as Mario.
02:01:34
Steve-O
Zelda is an epic.
02:01:34
megadong
So, Yeah, where does it fall?
02:01:36
Steve-O
it's yeah i'm I'm giving it a scale. At the top of that scale, Lord of the Rings. At the bottom of it, Willow. Where is this motherfucker going to land?
02:01:44
billfrankenstein
Oh, man. What do you guys are, Willow?
02:01:46
megadong
Yo, why gotta fucking throw... What'd you say fuck me for?
02:01:50
megadong
What'd you say fuck me for?
02:01:53
BeyBlade
Yeah, i feel like there were some other options, but Steve just said, nah, fuck that.
02:01:53
megadong
That's my 50 cent meme.
02:01:57
BeyBlade
Fuck that movie about that little person.
02:01:57
megadong
Nah, fuck Willow.
02:01:58
billfrankenstein
could have said that Dungeons & Dragons movie from 2002.
02:02:02
Steve-O
oh Oh, my God. but Yes. Okay.
02:02:06
billfrankenstein
that would have been fine.
02:02:07
Steve-O
forgot about that.
02:02:12
billfrankenstein
All right, next trailer.
02:02:12
BeyBlade
What else? What else?
02:02:15
billfrankenstein
Wake up, Dead Man. i didn't even watch this.
02:02:17
BeyBlade
Oh, another Ben LeBlanc movie.
02:02:21
BeyBlade
Matt LeBlanc movie. Ben Blanc. Benoit Blanc.
02:02:21
Steve-O
New Knives Out mystery.
02:02:21
billfrankenstein
Ben LeBlanc?
02:02:25
billfrankenstein
Benoit Blanc?
02:02:26
BeyBlade
I said Matt LeBlanc. Yes. You're thinking of the other one.
02:02:26
Steve-O
Is Matt LeBlanc still alive?
02:02:30
megadong
Yeah, he's doing a friend's spinoff or something.
02:02:32
Steve-O
Joey's alive. Chandler's dead.
02:02:34
BeyBlade
chant Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:02:37
BeyBlade
Yeah, man. I like these Knives Out movies.
02:02:41
BeyBlade
I'm going to keep liking them.
02:02:41
billfrankenstein
Yeah, I'm going to watch this regardless.
02:02:43
billfrankenstein
I didn't even watch this trailer.
02:02:43
BeyBlade
Yeah. um Ryan Coogler, it's just nice to get confirmation sometimes. Ryan couger Coogler confirmed.
02:02:50
megadong
Ryan Coogler confirms that confirms he likes having money and he wants to make more of it.
02:02:55
BeyBlade
Yeah, he confirmed that the bag, the dump truck has been delivered.
02:02:58
megadong
ah The bag has been secured.
02:03:00
billfrankenstein
Well, like he, the classic move.
02:03:02
billfrankenstein
He did one, he did one, he did one for him and he's got to do one, he's got to do one for him.
02:03:04
megadong
He did his own thing. it was amazing.
02:03:06
Steve-O
One for you, one for me, one for you.
02:03:08
megadong
He's got a one for... Yeah. well though is Is that how... Wasn't Sinners of Warner Brothers?
02:03:14
billfrankenstein
It was, but that was his, eye that was like his baby, right?
02:03:17
megadong
But he was... was that Yeah. But that's the thing, though, is like...
02:03:20
BeyBlade
And like, yeah he was contractually, I think, on Black Panther 3 anyway, but he was like, I gotta
Game Lore and Storytelling
02:03:26
BeyBlade
do this other movie.
02:03:26
megadong
No, but I feel like if he doesn't direct Black Panther 3, it might flop. I don't know.
02:03:32
billfrankenstein
Yeah, dude.
02:03:33
megadong
Like, his name is pretty this fairly tied to that franchise now.
02:03:33
billfrankenstein
You're not wrong.
02:03:36
BeyBlade
Oh, for sure, for sure, yeah.
02:03:37
megadong
Like, he's he's the guy.
02:03:39
billfrankenstein
Though the second movie did garner...
02:03:40
megadong
Like, what are they gonna do? Get the fucking Russo brothers to direct Black Panther 3? That'll go over well with the community.
02:03:45
billfrankenstein
The second movie garnered an Oscar nomination, so there's that, too. Like, it did...
02:03:50
BeyBlade
For costumes? What was it?
02:03:53
billfrankenstein
The so Best Supporting Actress...
02:03:55
megadong
best debut Best debut superhero movie, Black Panther 2.
02:03:55
BeyBlade
Oh, she was really good in it.
02:03:59
billfrankenstein
What's her name? Oh, my God. Why am I going
02:04:02
megadong
Best debut but a blockbut summer blockbuster, Black Panther 2.
02:04:09
billfrankenstein
Angelica...
02:04:12
BeyBlade
No. Angela Bassett.
02:04:13
billfrankenstein
Angela Bassett.
02:04:15
BeyBlade
Yeah. No, she was great.
02:04:17
BeyBlade
She was really good in it. I don't know. Maybe this is for some of you nerds. ah
02:04:17
billfrankenstein
Yeah, she was good.
02:04:25
megadong
ah The Elden Ring book.
02:04:25
BeyBlade
But the Elden Ring lore book.
02:04:27
megadong
you imagine Imagine your job being writing a book about stuff that is already written somewhere else.
02:04:36
megadong
You know? I mean, and this guy is awesome. Vadi Vidya is awesome. that's i mean That's basically the guy that I go to.
02:04:40
billfrankenstein
remember that you know what i think of and whatever I do whenever new FromSoft game comes out it's that gif where it's the new game and then it fades away and it's Tony Montana counting money
02:04:55
megadong
And it's all the content creators the about the game? Yeah. i mean, it's kind of cool, though. It's cool that FromSoft is okay with it.
02:05:01
billfrankenstein
laughing
02:05:03
BeyBlade
Yeah. It's that that's kind of the thing. Like it's not official. Somehow they're okay with it, but also like, yeah.
02:05:09
megadong
Yeah, but, like, this guy... This guy, they... He's, like, basically part of the team. Because, like, they they they fly this guy out to do, like, testing and stuff sometimes. Like...
02:05:19
BeyBlade
Well, didn't he say like a lot of this isn't even official lore?
02:05:21
megadong
He got to... He got... He was one...
02:05:22
BeyBlade
This is just his take on it?
02:05:24
megadong
Right, but I mean, all that's...
02:05:24
billfrankenstein
Yeah, basically.
02:05:26
megadong
Yeah, but his take on it is all based on subtext and text that's in the game.
02:05:30
megadong
So it's, like, stuff that he he comes up with on his own that I guess technically FromSoft could share their notes with him if they wanted to, but, like, it's kind of cool that they let him do his own thing and keep it...
02:05:42
megadong
Keep it, ah you know... Now, I don't want to say a secret, but keep it the way it is, which is...
02:05:46
billfrankenstein
Yeah, yeah. They don't want to upset the apple cart, you know?
02:05:48
megadong
And, you know, real talk, Chris, after playing...
02:05:49
billfrankenstein
Like, he's doing a good...
02:05:53
megadong
you know, a couple FromSoft games and then playing a game like Hollow Knight and then playing a game like Clear Obscure where the where the story's like fed to you. I kind of prefer the context-based storytelling model. Like, I kind of like that.
02:06:07
billfrankenstein
I do too. Because it it makes the story like optional.
02:06:11
billfrankenstein
or least You have to engage.
02:06:11
megadong
It makes you, yeah, it makes you want to, it makes you want to, yeah, it makes you want to engage into it as opposed to getting Daredevil to talk into a fucking Zoom call.
02:06:23
billfrankenstein
yeah like there' There's so many moments and
02:06:23
megadong
In his closet. and again And then take a nomination away from the actual motion cap capture guy.
02:06:28
billfrankenstein
in like so the Spider-Man games where he's just in a cutscene talking I'm just like, please stop talking.
02:06:34
BeyBlade
i know man I don't don't know.
02:06:35
billfrankenstein
please please
02:06:36
BeyBlade
I think it's because, because you know what?
02:06:39
BeyBlade
yeah I'll be honest. I have been plugging away a little bit ah on Liza P and like, it's, it's just bloodborne, right?
02:06:50
BeyBlade
It's just, it's just bloodborne style game.
02:06:51
billfrankenstein
Basically.
02:06:52
megadong
Well, easy, easy, easy there.
02:06:54
BeyBlade
But like, i couldn't, there's an actual plot in this and I just could not be less interested.
02:06:54
megadong
Big dog, big dog. Take it easy.
02:07:01
megadong
Well, that's Eliza P, dog.
02:07:02
BeyBlade
Yeah, sure. Okay.
02:07:03
BeyBlade
No, no, no. But but I'm saying, no, but this is like, dude, no, no.
02:07:03
megadong
That's not fucking Dark Souls, bro.
02:07:07
billfrankenstein
It's not the same. It's copying it?
02:07:08
BeyBlade
Cause that's just you. Nah, dude, dude, I'm telling you, man, people are saying that's it.
02:07:10
billfrankenstein
Doesn't mean it's the same thing, bro. No.
02:07:16
BeyBlade
That's it. They're like, it's
02:07:16
Steve-O
nice eyes Guys, guys, guys, Devin is trying to become the Vati Vidya for the Liza P universe.
02:07:21
Steve-O
we gotta, come on.
02:07:21
megadong
and the pinot For the Pinocchio.
02:07:22
billfrankenstein
What? Body Video already did that.
02:07:23
megadong
so Actually, actually yo real talk though, Devin.
02:07:25
BeyBlade
no, because it's the same vibes as if I, when I was playing Elnery, I was like, I could not be fucking less interested.
02:07:29
megadong
No, real talk though, Devin. The Liza P, when I saw the trailer for the first time, I thought it was kind of cool. like the pinoc The whole Pinocchio, fucking twisted Pinocchio stuff.
02:07:36
BeyBlade
Yeah. not like it's like As a game, it's fine, but like because I'm like,
Twisted Metal and Hunger Games Prequel
02:07:41
megadong
Nah, I love that.
02:07:41
billfrankenstein
it It's a cheap knockoff.
02:07:41
megadong
I think it's cool.
02:07:43
billfrankenstein
It's a cheap knockoff of the Bloodborne story.
02:07:45
BeyBlade
I would not take cheap.
02:07:46
billfrankenstein
It's a Timu version of the Bloodborne story.
02:07:49
megadong
It's a double A from Soft game. What's next?
02:07:51
BeyBlade
Yo, in 2032, when Chris pulls a Suarez and picks up the Liza P games, he's like, this is actually kind of amazing. I love this.
02:08:04
billfrankenstein
Alright.
02:08:05
billfrankenstein
Well, you know, can just wait it out.
02:08:07
billfrankenstein
I'll wait that one out.
02:08:09
billfrankenstein
See what happens.
02:08:13
Steve-O
i caught Owen drinking in the garage. I just peed Liza P. Oh, fuck, man.
02:08:21
BeyBlade
ah twist chris good news i know you're really concerned twisted metal season three is confirmed but they're losing their showrunner
02:08:31
billfrankenstein
that's not good.
02:08:31
BeyBlade
which i well i don't know because i'm torn because there was part There was so much that I really liked about season three, but like, dude, the last like episode was one of the worst episodes of TV I've ever seen in my life.
02:08:45
Steve-O
Season two, you mean?
02:08:45
BeyBlade
And I'm like, season two.
02:08:47
megadong
I thought it was good. I thought season two was good.
02:08:47
BeyBlade
im No, it is. But like the last episode is complete. It's one of the worst things I've ever seen in my life. Like I was a kind of like maybe blank out the entire season.
02:08:58
Steve-O
Worse than Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter?
02:09:01
megadong
Oh, like the end of Claire Obscure me.
02:09:02
billfrankenstein
I don't know.
02:09:04
megadong
The end of Claire Obscure for me.
02:09:05
megadong
ah kind havela you're obscure for me
02:09:07
BeyBlade
yeah yeah if you're brain dead yeah yeah just like that
02:09:14
megadong
Where like, oh man, this is amazing. And then, oh god, this.
02:09:17
BeyBlade
you know this is ah I hate this thing that everybody else loves I hate this yeah um also just like talk about franchises that sometimes just don't make sense to me
02:09:21
megadong
is This is dog walk. Shit.
02:09:33
BeyBlade
Hunger Games getting another spinoff movie.
02:09:35
billfrankenstein
Sun rides on the Reaping.
02:09:38
megadong
sam said Sam said this book was better than the other one. the The other prequel book.
02:09:43
BeyBlade
Yeah, that's ah it's another prequel.
02:09:45
megadong
so she's so she's So she's excited.
02:09:45
BeyBlade
This is about ah Hamish. So this is um what he Woody Harrelson's character.
02:09:50
megadong
And Fat Todd is is young Philip Seymour Hoffman?
02:09:52
BeyBlade
This is about Woody Harrelson's character, I think.
02:09:55
megadong
Right. And Fat Todd is um is going to be young Philip Seymour Hoffman's character, right?
02:10:01
Steve-O
Oh, that's interesting.
02:10:02
BeyBlade
Oh, shit. But is he going be โ he hasn't been fat God in a โ yeah.
02:10:04
billfrankenstein
He's real thin now.
02:10:07
megadong
He's always Fat Todd to be David. Come on.
02:10:11
megadong
Fucking El Camino, that's the only Todd that I want in my life, is the El Camino Todd.
02:10:14
BeyBlade
me Where he's just really fat for for like a few months in terms of the timeline.
02:10:18
megadong
It was probably for some role he was doing on on the side, you know?
02:10:19
billfrankenstein
just eating beans all the time.
02:10:23
billfrankenstein
Yeah, it was for Fargo.
02:10:24
Steve-O
Vince was like, Hey, I need you back.
02:10:25
megadong
Oh yeah, because he was chubby at Fargo.
02:10:27
billfrankenstein
it was season two Fargo.
02:10:29
Steve-O
I need you back for Todd.
02:10:30
BeyBlade
was chubby for a minute, dude. He was chubby for a year
02:10:32
megadong
Yeah, it just doesn't make any sense.
02:10:33
billfrankenstein
Well, I mean, you know what?
02:10:33
BeyBlade
I think we just decided to get that.
02:10:34
megadong
like he's the break He's the break.
02:10:36
megadong
He's the break in fucking continuity.
02:10:37
billfrankenstein
When no one's asking you to lose weight for a role, you just...
02:10:40
BeyBlade
Exactly. Like, no one's asking him, so why the hell would he...
02:10:41
billfrankenstein
It's uncomfortable.
02:10:42
BeyBlade
ah Yeah, he's got it.
02:10:44
megadong
Oh, man, dude, look at the ah look at this ah cast for Sunrise and the Weeping. You got Elle Fanning, you got Fat Todd, Ralph Fiennes, Glenn Close, Maya That's a lot of good stars.
02:10:50
BeyBlade
That's the thing, man. like this
02:10:54
BeyBlade
They're getting really good... ah Yeah, they're getting really good, like... That's the thing. It's a franchise that the movies are all pretty solid.
02:11:00
megadong
You know what? just give it best Just give it best indie movie because they got all these stars on it.
02:11:05
megadong
Just give it best indie movie.
02:11:06
Steve-O
That's Indy right here.
02:11:07
BeyBlade
Lock it down, dude. ah John, you posted a
Indie Games and Xbox Support
02:11:13
megadong
the only thing I ever posted yeah I looked at this and I was like oh this is a fucking holiday ripoff nah but dude when when I watched the trailer like this looks fucking dope and then i dug in and they're like and team cherry actually kicked they backed the kickstarter for this game and said it looks amazing
02:11:18
BeyBlade
You won't talk about Timu Hollow Knight. Just look.
02:11:31
BeyBlade
course they did, because they want to be like, oh, what's up, my child?
02:11:35
megadong
Well, no, I mean, it yeah, yeah, they're like, yeah hi it's hi, it's me, dad.
02:11:35
BeyBlade
Like, look for they can sun them, dude.
02:11:40
BeyBlade
Yeah, hi, it's your father.
02:11:40
megadong
How's that project going?
02:11:42
megadong
How's that project going, little guy? Here's 20 bucks.
02:11:44
Steve-O
literally that's the same boss with the butt smash
02:11:45
megadong
Here's 20 bucks. Yeah, wouldn't that be funny if T-Chart just, they just kickstart, they just put $20 in there. That's all they put in there.
02:11:53
Steve-O
nah this is their mega bunk where they just flip their name backwards
02:11:53
BeyBlade
Well, I'm going to do...
02:11:57
BeyBlade
The sad reality is all three of them could have pitched 20 bucks and they only would have made 60 bucks.
02:11:57
megadong
No, but this legit...
02:12:03
megadong
Legit, though, like this looks like Hollow Knight.
02:12:09
megadong
Here's another route if you're if you're a developer that's frustrated or if you're a gamer that's frustrated. If there's a game that you want to come out, just make it make it yourself. They were like, oh, we're tired of waiting for Silksong and we're tired waiting for Bloodborne 2.
02:12:23
megadong
So let's make a game that's kind of both of them combined. It actually looks really cool.
02:12:28
megadong
I'm going to play it.
02:12:29
Steve-O
And this is ah one of the ah the Xbox partner preview things that came out this week, right?
02:12:33
megadong
Yeah, does that mean Xbox funded it?
02:12:36
megadong
Or is this still an indie game What's going on?
02:12:37
BeyBlade
I think it's just, don't I don't know.
02:12:39
Steve-O
Yeah, so looking at the ah the end scene, it's like x Xbox, Xbox on PC, Xbox Cloud, Steam, PS5, Nintendo Switch.
02:12:40
BeyBlade
Microsoft Partners.
02:12:46
Steve-O
i I think it's on everything.
02:12:48
Steve-O
It's just they've got the first access to put it in their showcase.
02:12:49
BeyBlade
Yeah, that's the thing. think it's...
02:12:52
megadong
This is ah this is like Silksong making that five-second coming soon montage clip in the Nintendo Direct that everyone freaked out about.
02:13:03
megadong
They're like, wait, that's it?
02:13:03
BeyBlade
think it's exactly that.
02:13:05
megadong
That's all they show?
02:13:06
megadong
Yeah. I mean, this looks fucking sick, though. I mean, the movesets are literally exactly from Hollow Knight, though.
02:13:15
Steve-O
Yeah, like these like.
02:13:15
megadong
But they got Donkey Kong carts.
02:13:17
Steve-O
These splash attacks are just like right at a hollow night.
02:13:22
megadong
And there's fucking guns, and you're just a fucking plague doctor with the bird mask on? That's kind of dope.
02:13:26
Steve-O
That's cool. That's cool. Tarot cards.
02:13:30
megadong
Uh, from when I did a little digging on this game, they said the demo was impossible. So, looking forward to it.
02:13:37
BeyBlade
So you're locked in. Yeah.
02:13:38
megadong
Locked in, baby.
02:13:39
Steve-O
Now, Devin, you posted a trailer for a game called Zoo Punk. What is this?
02:13:43
BeyBlade
Yeah. This is ah another, it was another Xbox preview. to ah If you watch the video, it's kind of crazy.
02:13:50
megadong
yeah I'm gonna lick it now and see.
02:13:51
billfrankenstein
It looks like Beyond Good and Evil 2, the game that that was going to come out.
02:13:55
BeyBlade
I think it's like what, what I wished that game was, I guess.
02:14:00
BeyBlade
No, beyond good and evil too.
02:14:03
BeyBlade
Uh, you, it's like a, no, no, never came out.
02:14:03
billfrankenstein
and it Did it come out?
02:14:06
megadong
This looks crazy. What
Batman Series and DC Comics
02:14:08
BeyBlade
Yeah. It's zoopunk, dude. Um, yeah.
02:14:12
billfrankenstein
does look pretty cool.
02:14:13
Steve-O
Zootopia free right here
02:14:13
BeyBlade
So it's just like a bunch of characters. You can play, it looks like you can play as multiple characters. Uh, there's the rabbit with like dual fucking energy swords.
02:14:20
billfrankenstein
I like the bunny.
02:14:22
megadong
With the dual swords? Yeah, that's sick.
02:14:25
BeyBlade
And then there's like a, uh, uh, I don't know. He's like a big burly guy, like a rhino or something.
02:14:25
billfrankenstein
Flame sword.
02:14:30
billfrankenstein
Rhinoceros.
02:14:32
BeyBlade
Yeah, ride it with a chainsword. Again, like it's pretty hard to.
02:14:36
megadong
I might play this. Is this Xbox just being like, hey, we be we love indie games. Look at us. We're the good guys.
02:14:42
billfrankenstein
We're endergame guys.
02:14:43
BeyBlade
Probably, probably.
02:14:43
Steve-O
This is coming out to Xbox, Xbox on PC, PS5, Steam, and the Epic Store.
02:14:50
BeyBlade
Yeah, there's a little raccoon or squirrel.
02:14:50
megadong
Ew. I guess I'm not playing this game then. I have all these platforms that I don't want to get Epic Games Store. by but all my Yeah, I'm not playing it.
02:14:57
Steve-O
You're like, oh, it's on the Epic Game Store? Fuck that.
02:15:00
BeyBlade
yeah Yeah, but not you're just forgetting.
02:15:01
megadong
If it's not on Steam, I don't want it.
02:15:05
megadong
Oh, it is? okay.
02:15:05
Steve-O
Yeah, yeah, it's not fair.
02:15:05
megadong
Oh, yeah, yeah. it's ah Oh, it's a Steam and Epic game store.
02:15:07
BeyBlade
it's on PlayStation, that other thing you own.
02:15:10
BeyBlade
But I get it. I get it.
02:15:11
megadong
Yeah, but, you know, I'm going to get a Steam machine, so, you know, I've got to start investing in my library.
02:15:11
BeyBlade
I get it. Yeah, but you know... Oh, man. what
02:15:20
megadong
Because, you know what? When I don't renew my PS5 PlayStation Plus next year, i'm going to lose out on all those games that I have loaded on there, probably.
02:15:29
megadong
But Steam, my Steam library is mine.
02:15:31
Steve-O
Oh, this is ah Shanghai T Game Network Technology Limited Games Company.
02:15:39
BeyBlade
you know what i didn't post and uh which i don't know if you guys saw it no no no the the hellraiser trailer there's a new
02:15:44
megadong
Oh, the thing that I asked you about? That other game?
02:15:50
billfrankenstein
Excuse me?
02:15:51
Steve-O
I remember seeing...
02:15:52
BeyBlade
So the Hellraiser game coming out, the Hellraiser trailer is, you know, so I don't know if you guys remember hearing about this, but they're like, oh, yeah, we're we're pushing it
02:15:55
billfrankenstein
all right.
02:16:02
BeyBlade
And I was like, OK, sure. Like I played edm rated games before. Like this is it pretty hardcore, man. um It's like you're just running around like a kink show, basically just murdering Cenobites.
02:16:20
BeyBlade
Uh, it's, it's, you know, it's Hellraiser coded for sure. ah so yeah, I, I, I don't know.
02:16:30
billfrankenstein
is this Is this like the sort of like the RoboCop game?
02:16:35
BeyBlade
I think so. Like, I don't think it's them, but, uh, yeah, like you, look yeah, you literally like just, there's an orgy happening in this trailer.
02:16:37
billfrankenstein
Yeah, sure, sure. ah But in that vein where they're expanding.
02:16:47
billfrankenstein
Yeah, love orgies in video games.
02:16:49
BeyBlade
dude, Cenobites and Orgies.
02:16:50
megadong
Who doesn't? dozen'
02:16:51
BeyBlade
Definitely stuck out.
02:16:54
BeyBlade
Stuck out to me.
02:16:55
billfrankenstein
It might pique my interest.
02:16:57
BeyBlade
Yeah, man. It's pretty crazy.
02:17:00
Steve-O
Zoo punk is related to apparently I don't know if Zoo punk is a sequel to, but ah same company made a game called fist forged in shadow torch, which is a Metroidvania.
02:17:08
BeyBlade
I was curious. I played I played like an hour of fist and I didn't hate it. It's just Metroidvanias and me are kind biggest.
02:17:20
BeyBlade
It's tough for those to stick. It's tough for those to stick with me. It was fine. You know, i was like, okay. And then, um,
02:17:20
megadong
Oh, you don't like art, I guess?
02:17:27
megadong
Dude, God of War is technically a Metroidvania, you think about it. God of War 2018.
02:17:31
BeyBlade
but well, I mean, listen, so was like Arkham Asylum.
02:17:34
BeyBlade
It's my favorite Metroidvania.
02:17:35
megadong
Oh yeah, people people say people say that is a legit Metroidvania, no lie.
02:17:39
BeyBlade
Wait, John, I forget.
02:17:39
billfrankenstein
Yeah, it definitely is
02:17:39
megadong
like People do say that.
02:17:40
BeyBlade
Did you you' you did you play Arkham Asylum?
02:17:43
megadong
I played Arkham Asylum and I played Arkham City.
02:17:46
megadong
I didn't play Arkham Knight.
02:17:46
BeyBlade
Yeah, that was it.
02:17:47
Steve-O
This the best ones.
02:17:48
billfrankenstein
is. Yeah, you're good.
02:17:51
billfrankenstein
You're good.
02:17:52
billfrankenstein
Except for the man-bat scares.
02:17:54
Steve-O
The man bat scares.
02:17:56
billfrankenstein
That's like the best thing.
02:17:56
megadong
I mean, the Scarecrow shit was fucking wild, though, and fucking...
02:17:59
Steve-O
It was really good.
02:18:01
billfrankenstein
Scarecrow shit is great. Man-bat scares are the best.
02:18:04
Steve-O
Y'all ever accidentally end up in the Arkham side of YouTube? You look up like a Batman video here and there, and then it's just like, here's five unknown facts about the Arkham games.
02:18:17
Steve-O
And they just go, they just go like to the like the most insane like leaps. Like there's a shadow man that exists. And if you see him, he'll corrupt your console.
02:18:27
Steve-O
And I'm like, get out, get the fuck out of here.
02:18:30
billfrankenstein
You know what's funny? I actually, because of Absolute Batman, I started getting this weird YouTube channel Horror Batman... like series?
02:18:40
BeyBlade
wait wait, is it the AI videos where it's like Batman versus Jason Voorhees and shit?
02:18:45
billfrankenstein
No, no, that I get too.
02:18:47
BeyBlade
Yeah, I get those.
02:18:48
billfrankenstein
It's the containment protocols for each one of the...
02:18:48
BeyBlade
I get those. Yeah, yeah.
02:18:51
Steve-O
Oh yeah, I get those where it's like, I have to take down ah ah Ken Kataragi from and like the Death Note series.
02:18:59
billfrankenstein
The best thing to do with Jason Voorhees is to get him alone in a room where I have a dildo attached to my pelvis and I fuck him. While I'm fucking him, a laser beam is shooting into his head.
02:19:10
billfrankenstein
I've seen hilarious thing.
02:19:13
Steve-O
So you're telling me there's a horror Batman.
02:19:13
billfrankenstein
colar Yeah, so it's a Batman. It's like a almost almost like a Slenderman, Marble Hornets, the what is it, ah Backrooms type video where it's Batman, is if he's gone completely off the reservation.
02:19:31
billfrankenstein
think he killed Alfred. He's not eating.
02:19:34
BeyBlade
Wait, is this like a YouTube? with the
02:19:34
megadong
It's like Zoran R.
02:19:36
billfrankenstein
Yes, he stopped eating. That's like a big part of it. So he's like really like rail thin. and
02:19:42
BeyBlade
Wait, this is like a YouTube channel?
02:19:43
Steve-O
Is it like a creepypasta? Like Batman creepypasta?
02:19:45
billfrankenstein
Sort of. That's kind of the way it's it's presented on the YouTube channel. And it's him basically ah hacking and hijacking various like police protocols that are like emergencies. And he ends up talking to people like, I am a nightmare. i am the bat. Like over and over again.
02:20:05
billfrankenstein
Whispering it to people. Like you can hear him whisper.
02:20:08
BeyBlade
Is this, is this bat?
02:20:08
Steve-O
I'm posting a link in Shit Talk. Is this it? Is this one of them?
02:20:11
billfrankenstein
I think i think
02:20:16
billfrankenstein
Uh, I don't think so. Maybe?
02:20:19
Steve-O
Oh man, Chris, I i want this.
02:20:20
billfrankenstein
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah Yes.
02:20:22
Steve-O
i want I want to see what this is now.
02:20:24
billfrankenstein
this this is This is it.
02:20:26
billfrankenstein
Yes. This is it. You nailed it. Vengeance is coming. Yes.
02:20:29
billfrankenstein
What killed the Batman?
02:20:29
Steve-O
okay. All right, that's fair.
02:20:29
BeyBlade
I was going to say this is the thing I found, but man.
02:20:34
billfrankenstein
that Steve nailed it.
02:20:35
billfrankenstein
But this is a video talking about it, right?
02:20:37
Steve-O
okay okay all right that's fair
02:20:38
billfrankenstein
This isn't the thing. I don't think this the thing.
02:20:40
Steve-O
I'm so excited. Chris is just like, I'm going to look of absolute Batman and get some of the most fucked up Batman shit.
02:20:47
billfrankenstein
That shit is it's really fascinating to listen to because it's it's moderately well made.
02:20:55
billfrankenstein
And then there's another one I get a lot of times too where it's a Batman series on YouTube but it's in the 1920s. And it's all done like radio plays.
02:21:07
billfrankenstein
that's That's more theatrical.
02:21:11
billfrankenstein
This is more like a creepypasta.
02:21:14
BeyBlade
oh you know what I meant to let you guys know I read over the last like week really I've been reading this book Batman Damned which is it was Jason Azzarello and Lee Bermijo remember the comic where Batman's dick was flopping around it's that book and
02:21:36
Steve-O
Okay, that was when they started the ah the adult line. i forget what it was called.
02:21:39
BeyBlade
the black label black one yeah uh which i don't know how long it lasts and also it's funny because they're like there's no rules for black label and then there's like there's definitely rules for black label you can't show batman's penis you can't show batman's fat fucking hog dude um not great not a great book looks gorgeous uh didn't love it uh in terms
02:21:40
Steve-O
Yeah, yeah, DC Black Label.
02:21:50
Steve-O
You can't show dicks.
02:22:04
Steve-O
How many hogs do you give it?
02:22:07
BeyBlade
no three out of 10.
02:22:10
Steve-O
Oh, wow. That's really low.
02:22:13
Steve-O
Better or worse than Abraham Lincoln, Batman Hunter.
02:22:13
BeyBlade
It's like, Oh man, it's better than that. But like, it's just, I don't know, man. It just jumps around too much for being, so it's like three issues. Whatever I read on the app was like just one collected things. It was like 175 pages, which why it took me like three nights. Cause I just keep falling asleep. But it's like Batman, just like,
02:22:37
BeyBlade
The Joker's dead. Batman wakes up. He got in a fight with the Joker, wakes up. Joker's dead. And then he's just like on a big quest with like Constantine and runs in the... sway It's Batman dealing with like the the mystical elements.
02:22:54
BeyBlade
And the end's kind of interesting, but it's like... I guess if you look at it as like a total... self, uh, like a total elseworld self imposed, not self imposed, uh,
02:23:10
BeyBlade
like a beginning, middle, and end, this is the story, right? If you look at it that way, I think it's pretty good. But, like, it's just tough for me to, like, remove the Batman of it all from it. Like, you're like, oh, how would this continue? What would happen to Gotham? It's that and the other thing. um But it's just, it just makes some weird jumps, man. Like, Harley Quinn tries to rape him at one point, and then he tries to kill Harley Quinn, and then, like,
02:23:39
BeyBlade
The next page, she's in a coffin underground and you're like, what happened? How did we get here? And there's no interest in explaining it. Right. ah So while you're reading it, it's it's very jarring and confusing on a lot of levels. But.
02:23:58
BeyBlade
You know, just kind of reminded me that I i read that.
02:24:08
billfrankenstein
Oh, I have one question. Who in DCKO is fighting Sub-Zero?
02:24:14
BeyBlade
Wait, are they in there?
02:24:16
billfrankenstein
Yeah, Devin. Yeah.
02:24:17
BeyBlade
All right. First of all, fucking
Marvel and DC Crossovers Speculation
02:24:21
BeyBlade
tone it down. Second of all, i I fired up the app to see if there's a new issue and there wasn't.
02:24:30
billfrankenstein
I know, but it's all coming out in December. It's going to be huge. December, DC's bringing back its Vertigo line, by the way, guys.
02:24:37
billfrankenstein
So Vertigo is coming back.
02:24:38
megadong
Oh yeah, it's coming back.
02:24:40
billfrankenstein
It's coming out with some original comic books, too. I think four first issues are going to be coming out in December.
02:24:48
billfrankenstein
Then we get DC KO in December. Then we get Absolute Batman coming out in December. Packed fucking month for DC Comics.
02:24:59
billfrankenstein
And I'm excited.
02:25:00
Steve-O
If you're a DC fan, you're eating good.
02:25:03
billfrankenstein
Big month coming up, guys.
02:25:04
Steve-O
you're a Marvel fan, you're fucking starving.
02:25:06
billfrankenstein
Starving. Like Galactus.
02:25:09
BeyBlade
Mainly because we don't know anything that's happening. I'll be honest. Like I, if it's not absolute Batman, I'm pretty ignorant to like all of the things. And then the few things that I have been reading, like, Oh, what about this?
02:25:21
BeyBlade
I'm like, this is dog shit.
02:25:24
BeyBlade
So no and no to be fair, I read that. i I think I'm a few issues behind, but like,
02:25:24
billfrankenstein
You haven't been reading Absolute Wonder Woman, because that is phenomenal.
02:25:32
billfrankenstein
That is phenomenal.
02:25:32
BeyBlade
You know, it's kind of one of those things when I go outside the absolute bubble to like, you know, what's this?
02:25:37
BeyBlade
I'm like, oh, this is dog shit.
02:25:38
billfrankenstein
Oh, well, yeah, no, don't do that.
02:25:39
Steve-O
Don't go out of the bubble. yeah We give you the bubble, Devin.
02:25:42
Steve-O
Stay in the bubble.
02:25:42
BeyBlade
I know. I'm just a thing. I'm trying to expand out of the bubble and I'm like, this is the worst.
02:25:46
Steve-O
No, the bubble's safe.
02:25:47
billfrankenstein
ah The virtue of
02:25:48
Steve-O
It's comfortable.
02:25:49
billfrankenstein
the Vertigo line I'm excited for. Bringing that back is a fucking great idea.
02:25:54
billfrankenstein
so i There's got to be some good shit coming out there. I'm excited for that.
02:26:00
BeyBlade
ah Hold on. Batman versus Deadpool. I'm going to blow through this real quick. but but bu but bu
02:26:04
billfrankenstein
Yeah, there's the Flash versus the Fantastic Four is on.
02:26:08
BeyBlade
Man, I am not that I i care. I care and I don't care. But I'm like, do I want to read these? Do I want to read the Marvel DC crossover?
02:26:21
BeyBlade
it It was terrible the first time I read it.
02:26:24
megadong
I'm not interested in it, to be honest.
02:26:24
billfrankenstein
meta The Amalgam Universe. You excited for that? It's coming back.
02:26:28
BeyBlade
Yeah, well, I mean, it's like back. Like, they're doing another big crossover.
02:26:33
Steve-O
Who's going to fight the Annabelle doll?
02:26:36
billfrankenstein
Who's to fight the Annabelle doll, Steve?
02:26:38
BeyBlade
think Vegeta. ah
02:26:41
billfrankenstein
Who's going to fight Homelander?
02:26:43
Steve-O
Who's going to fight the bear from that one series where the bear is a serial killer?
02:26:49
billfrankenstein
The bear. The restaurant tree.
02:26:51
BeyBlade
Oh, a Carmi from the bear.
02:26:52
billfrankenstein
Yeah, somebody's got to fight Carmen.
02:26:53
Steve-O
Oh, Carnie from the Bear. i get that reference now. Reference now.
02:26:56
BeyBlade
Yeah, now you...
02:26:56
billfrankenstein
He's going to
02:26:57
Steve-O
don't know why I said it like that.
02:26:59
BeyBlade
yeah No, I think Hefe Soartiri, I think, is more.
02:27:02
megadong
Did you finish the first season?
02:27:05
Steve-O
Not yet. I'm a few away. I'm a few away. I got a little distracted.
02:27:08
BeyBlade
Who is going to fight? I'm going to say Mr. Freeze.
02:27:12
billfrankenstein
Ooh, that's a weird...
02:27:13
megadong
What? Ice versus ice?
02:27:13
Steve-O
Sub-Zero versus Mr.
02:27:15
billfrankenstein
Devin, what the hell?
02:27:17
BeyBlade
or Or Firestorm.
02:27:19
billfrankenstein
What the fuck is that about? I guess, yeah.
02:27:22
BeyBlade
because Sub-Zero needs a win, dude. And he's going to beat Hefe.
02:27:24
Steve-O
It's going to be weird because Sub-Zero is going to show up and he's going to oo I'm here to avenge my brother. And then Victor Freeze will be like, I'm a here to help my wife.
02:27:34
BeyBlade
I need to help Nora like do you Nora
02:27:35
billfrankenstein
What we doing?
02:27:36
Steve-O
Nora! Oh, wait, I forgot. Nora was retconned and I'm just a lunatic who just froze a woman.
02:27:44
BeyBlade
ah treason christ oh yeah yeah who's uh alright so Annabelle yeah Red Sonja Vampirella
02:27:44
Steve-O
Oh, Jesus, is that Vampirella?
02:27:51
megadong
So is it Homelander, Sub-Zero, Annabelle?
02:27:54
billfrankenstein
Mr. Freeze is such a jobber.
02:27:56
megadong
Who's going to fight Annabelle? Superman loses to Annabelle instantly.
02:28:01
BeyBlade
ah John Constantine is going fist fight Annabelle.
02:28:06
Steve-O
That actually be really interesting.
02:28:07
megadong
They're gonna cancel the magic out and he's just going to snap the dolls in that.
02:28:10
BeyBlade
Who's the teddy bear?
02:28:12
BeyBlade
Who's the teddy bear?
02:28:12
Steve-O
The bear is Sam from beneath the trees where no one sees.
02:28:14
megadong
Wait, who's the who's the specimen on the top there, Devin?
02:28:16
billfrankenstein
on, guys. Keep up. Hell yeah.
02:28:19
BeyBlade
That's Vampirella, I think.
02:28:21
billfrankenstein
Hell yeah.
02:28:26
Steve-O
God damn it, Tim Meadows.
02:28:29
megadong
That's just kidding. That's going to my response to everything now.
02:28:32
megadong
Any hot girl anywhere?
02:28:37
Steve-O
All right, I think we wrap it here. Who do you think is going to fight Vampirella?
02:28:42
billfrankenstein
I think it's going to be Kremen Galantech, personally.
02:28:47
Steve-O
We forgot the name. It was so many hours ago.
02:28:51
billfrankenstein
Kremen Galantech.
02:28:52
megadong
Krevin Galantuk.
02:28:54
Steve-O
All right. We'll be back next week with more Kreven Galantech adventures.
02:28:55
billfrankenstein
I remember you.
02:28:58
Steve-O
And we'll hope to see you then. Bye.