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Empowered vs Dis-empowered Focus, Trauma, and Emotional Regulation w/ Jehan Sattaur
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Jehan Sattaur is a CTAA accredited Cognitive Behavioral Therapist, Hypnotherapist, Nutrition Coach, Mindfulness Teacher and Specialist in the area of Subconscious Self Sabotage. Much of Jehan’s work focuses on removing the disempowering thoughts and beliefs from the subconscious mind which cause us to create less than favorable emotional consequences and circumstances. Jehan teaches you various ways to change internal dialogue, clear harsh memories and emotions and delete useless information from the subconscious so that you overcome self sabotage permanently.
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Connect with Jehan:
Website: https://selfsabotage.xyz/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jehansattaur/
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Welcome
00:00:00
Speaker
Welcome back, folks. Christian Jourdanoff here. So today we have Jihan Satoron. He's a returning guest. He is a CTAA, accredited cognitive behavioral therapist, hypnotherapist, nutrition coach, mindfulness teacher and specialist in the area of subconscious self-sabotage. Much of Jihan's work focuses on removing the disempowering thoughts and beliefs from the subconscious mind, which causes us to create less than favorable
00:00:29
Speaker
emotional consequences and circumstances.
Overcoming Self-Sabotage
00:00:33
Speaker
Jahan teaches various ways that you can use to change your internal dialogue, clear harsh memories and emotions, and delete useless information from the subconscious so that you can overcome self-sabotage permanently. Jahan, thanks for coming back on bro.
00:00:50
Speaker
Hey, thanks for having me back. I'm surprised I don't annoy you by now. It's been a while. No, I was missing you, man. It's been a while. Oh my goodness. I really enjoyed these conversations because I kind of.
00:01:05
Speaker
More and more have to focus on the biochemical, this kind of side of health. So I always enjoy someone that can open my eyes to the more the subconscious, the psyche, the stuff that I don't really have the time to explore, even though I have a great interest in it.
00:01:27
Speaker
I get what you're saying and you know the interesting thing about that is that psychology over the past hundred years or so has this way of making the subconscious seem like something completely out there, completely separate and that it's coming from whatever is generated by the brain and that confuses people. It's the freaking nervous system. It's in your body.
00:01:52
Speaker
So all the stuff that you talk about is so relevant to the subconscious as well because it's what's messing it up. It's all one, isn't it? Mind, body, soul, spirit, psyche. It's all one thing. We just compartmentalize the academia and joys.
00:02:10
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separating things into tiny little baskets or whatever so that we can figure out enzymes here and what SSRIs to give here for this problem. And it's about problem, problem, solution, symptom, drug, as opposed to let's figure out what this organism, what conditions should we create in order for this organism to thrive.
00:02:38
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Yeah, and it confuses the crap out of people, so I think they shut down and they just don't know what to do, you know?
Critique of Fasting Research
00:02:44
Speaker
Yeah, man. It's like, actually one thing I'm kind of, um, one of my friends, I'm kind of trying to tell him, you know, this intermittent fasting, the slow carb stuff, all of this stuff is really stressful on your body. You're just very young, so you can feel it. And, um, he, he sent me a video, uh, about, um, basically the, the, to make a,
00:03:11
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Long story short, a lot of the research on fasting, on calorie restriction, as it pertains to life extension or improvement in health, a lot of that research is done in laboratory animals. And if you look at what a lab rat eats,
00:03:27
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they eat just this horrendous slop of soy meal, polyunsaturated fats, sucrose, just kind of synthetic vitamins, like really poorly absorbable vitamin mixes, and just fish meal, just the most disgusting garbage you can imagine. And then
00:03:47
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It's it's kind of it's amazing how more researchers aren't well of course these friggin rats are living longer if you put them on intermittent fasting or prolonged fasting or caloric restriction diet of course you're gonna live longer you're reading giving them less poison and
00:04:04
Speaker
And it's the same in humans. Of course, you're going to feel better fasting if you're eating slop all day and plug in saturated fats. Of course, you're going to feel better if you reduce your calories and you're eating less poison. So I kind of wish we would see research where we give these animals the most pristine diet, the most amazing
00:04:24
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um sort of environment they're allowed to mate have it many mating partners lots of places to run and play and let's see how much we can extend their life you know without caloric restriction just let them eat eat live play and be happy friggin rodents and then and then let's see how much
00:04:45
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that how that stacks up against caloric restriction or fasting or whatever. I'm feeling it's going to stack up better. So that's kind of I think where a lot of the the medicine and science is that we're really studying, we're studying in great detail, just pathology and just things that are like just derangements of metabolism or psyche, as opposed to
00:05:12
Speaker
Taking it a step further, how do we create an environment conducive to the greatest health and thriving of an organism? I have some ideas on that, especially the fasting.
00:05:28
Speaker
and so far the way i've worked it out in my head is that there are a lot of studies and surveys that are pro fasting but they don't exist that's what i think how do i think that a lot of them don't really exist and
Social Proof and Individual Needs
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because people are easily hackable subconsciously by the idea of social proof. Someone just has to show up on Instagram and say a fad diet works and they're hooked. And it's hard for them to detach from that and find some kind of individualism because from the day we are born, we are essentially kept in an infantilized state where someone outside of us needs to give us direction.
00:06:13
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when internally we know what to do. And so we don't embrace the idea that each one of us is as unique as our thumbprint. For example, I told you what I ate and it shocked you. I just eat potatoes, sweet potatoes, you know, other ground provisions, coconut, fruit, things like that. And I feel better than I ever have. And this has been going on for years now. Whereas
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I noticed the difference because I'll play with it whenever I eat too much animal stuff. It'll make me feel really unwell. I'll get breakouts, all kinds of things like that.
00:06:51
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That's just my individual feeling how I feel. But people will want to mimic what I eat and then they feel like crap. And it's like, well, because you're not me. Yeah. Right. Like you don't you don't have my genetic makeup. Yeah. So why don't you take the time to figure out what works for you? There's nothing wrong with eating meat.
00:07:18
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or anything like that. What I realized though is that that's a big part of the machine as well. This idea that you need to eat meat three to five times a day is causing a lot of people a lot of health problems because their genetic makeup doesn't allow for that. Or maybe it's giving them digestive issues because they don't chew the food well enough. If the animals were of poor health, that's already the problem there.
00:07:44
Speaker
Yeah, maybe some people just eat too much of it and they eat it with other things and digestive enzymes exist. So there's a different digestive enzyme for a piece of broccoli than there is for a steak. And so if you're eating stuff and your stomach's like, I don't know which enzyme to make, then yeah, you're going to end up in trouble.
00:08:05
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So then people wanna fast to try to fix poor eating problems like you said. And that's not
Cholesterol Misconceptions
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really what it's for. If you're trying to starve out some dirty cells, some dead cells or something, sure.
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but everything has its place
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I think something might be wrong if you can't find a diet that you can stay lean on. I think that's the other thing with the fasting and intermittent fasting. It looks like the researchers are chasing
00:08:54
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improvements in cardio metabolic markers and weight loss. And the cardio metabolic markers, what are they chasing? Lower cholesterol. Jesus, goddamn Christ, your PhD in science in 2022 or 2020, and you still haven't gotten the memo that the whole cholesterol thing was just propaganda and marketing. Like they're still chasing freaking cholesterol, reducing LDL and total cholesterol. They're chasing
00:09:23
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reducing insulin and reducing blood sugar. And literally chasing insulin and blood sugar, it's like blood sugar is high. Let's lower it. It's the same story as cholesterol is high in heart disease. Let's lower it. It's completely forgetting that there's a reason why it's high. The fact that it's high is not the problem. It's the reason that it's high is the problem. And nobody's doing that in symptom-based allopathic medicine, you know?
00:09:53
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No, and they're not going to do it. They don't get paid to do that. They get paid to do the opposite. Well, that's another thing I hear all the time, too. There's cholesterol or. I need to eat low fat or low carbs or eat the freaking bread, man. Just shut up and eat the bread. And it's not going to do you anything unless it's GMO wheat. Yeah.
00:10:16
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I think we have to we have to just eat like our great great grandparents maybe of two three two three hundred years ago I think yeah that's if we just do that or what I like to now say is if it wasn't available to your grandma at least was it available to somebody's grandma around the world yes sure maybe my grandma never ate papaya when she was or my great-grandma never ate papaya
00:10:42
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But you know somewhere there was still the papaya was growing so I think if we stick to those foods It's it's very very difficult to overeat and gain weight on a whole Just real food and actually since we last talked bro. You know I've actually
00:10:59
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stopped eating so much meat, not because I wasn't feeling well on it or anything, I feel really good eating a lot of meat, but I started drinking milk, I started doing some experiments because my kid had to
00:11:14
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I just found some really nice organic goat milk that's 5% fat, really creamy and delicious, like ice cream. It's amazing. So my kid, I'd give her that and I tried some and then I'm like, Jesus Christ, this is so good. So I had a few bottles of that. And I basically, I got addicted, dude. I'm drinking like two liters of milk a day. But because of that, I don't feel like I need to eat as much meat. So I eat meat once a day.
00:11:39
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up to maybe twice a day and much smaller portions and I feel amazing and I feel so good with milk and I'm actually happy honestly I'm happy that less death has to occur for me to to get my calories in and all my nutrients and to still feel good you know so I I don't really have a problem I honestly I would eat just fruits if if I could thrive and be super healthy
00:12:09
Speaker
it's I'm not an idealist about you have to be this you have to be that and I've done the vegan thing and the carnivore thing and the raw carnivore thing and the mix all the mixes in between and I I just want to eat to feel amazing so if I could do that and I honestly believe maybe thousands of years ago maybe we could have done that maybe there was so much more so many more minerals in the in the ground that we're getting so much more nutrition out of even a carrot
00:12:35
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Maybe because we weren't under such insane levels of stress and we weren't born to sick mothers and there wasn't so much pollution, maybe we could have thrived on very basic just fruit, veg, and whatever else, berries, honey, we could find.
00:12:52
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But I just really don't think that is the case. But I'm actually glad I tolerate milk so well that I can just pump two, three liters a day and not flinch. I could drink milk all day without anything else. I could just be on milk all day, which is awesome. That's interesting because again, that's individualism right there. But I have heard that goat's milk and stuff is very good for you.
00:13:19
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Whereas Kao's milk, maybe not so much. Saying I've heard the same.
00:13:24
Speaker
The thing with that is if you like I like cooking and it's not like a major passion or anything like that, but sometimes I fall down rabbit holes that have nothing to do with cooking whatsoever. And I find out things like, gosh, in the 15th century, tomatoes weren't even in Italy yet. So what did they eat before that? Yeah. You know, or the Greeks, they didn't always eat meat. They fluctuated between.
00:13:55
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bread that was made of barley and soft cheese that was made from goat's milk. Or I think it was when they started having the, was it the Olympians or something like that? The diet changed and they started bringing in lamb and
00:14:18
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calf meat, things like that. And it was because of Pythagoras. He said that athletes need more fat and they need more protein than the average person. So, you know, start bringing those things in for the athletes and they would sacrifice the calf and then they would eat it and do things like that.
00:14:44
Speaker
It's interesting because humans are omnivores and I don't know why that simple fact is so hard for people to absorb into their minds and just eat whatever the hell you want. Whatever makes you feel good, eat it. You don't feel good after you eat it, don't eat it. And what else was I going to say here?
00:15:08
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We just get programmed with this idea of protein, protein, protein, protein and it scares the shit out of most people. Most people won't admit that they're afraid when they hear it. It's more of the propaganda thing. But where's that coming from? It's coming from the Cold War where they had all of this milk that they sent over and they were like, oh, we're going to lose.
00:15:28
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millions of dollars on this milk. What do we do with it? Send it back to a lab somewhere, extract away from it, sell it to people and tell them they're deficient in protein and they got to buy this product so that they can, you know, get enough protein because they're low and they're going to die if they don't get it. And so you get all these people that are overeating protein.
00:15:52
Speaker
And they're walking around with gas coming out of their ass. And they're like, ah, I don't feel so good. But they continue to do it anyway, especially people that go in the gym or bodybuilding or something like that. I don't feel so good. It could be genetic. Yeah, here's a hint for you. If you're shitting all the time, something's going on. Something's stuck in your digestive system that you're trying to get out. There's a blockage there.
00:16:22
Speaker
I think people get propagandized into being afraid that they're not taking good care of their health. At the end of the day, that's the biggest problem. We need to shut this stuff out. And so that's actually a segue. After you say what you were going to say, that's a segue into our topic, disempowered focus versus empowered focus.
00:16:41
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Yeah, I can't even remember what I was going to say, but it was going to be something like... We're probably preaching to the choir talking about these things. But it's important to state and restate them because...
00:16:57
Speaker
Marketing propaganda, brainwashing, all that stuff. It works in both directions. So to unbrainwash yourself, like all these doctors, you can't hear for 40 years of your career. You can't be telling patients cholesterol bad, going to cause heart disease, must lower cholesterol, statins good, and then
00:17:19
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someone comes and gives you all this research showing oh no actually high cholesterol is protective in all the rage and you know for the love of god the cholesterol is a structural component in in your cells it's like 20 percent of your brain is cholesterol your steroid hormones testosterone protective hormones like dha progesterone are
00:17:41
Speaker
you know, you use cholesterol to make those. And this doctor, imagine how crazy he would feel. How can he tell all of his patients that he's been telling for decades, cholesterol is bad, to suddenly tell them, no, it's actually, no, it's totally fine. It's actually the seed oils that are really killing you and giving you heart disease and whatever else in cancer. They just can't do that. So
00:18:06
Speaker
We have to keep, I suppose, repeating what we believe is the truth because I don't think people will hear it once and believe it. They have to hear it multiple times in order to really get to sink in.
Cultural Brainwashing and Food Choices
00:18:19
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So I think that's important for us to continue, even though sometimes I feel like I'm just repeating myself and probably people listening, I've got Jesus Christ, this old spiel again, taking care of myself and eating well and eating real food.
00:18:30
Speaker
Well, god damn it, if you're if you're eating 50 grams of polyunsaturated fats a day, you were going to have very serious health problems. Maybe not not in five years or 10 years, but eventually it will catch up to you. Yeah, I don't know what's so difficult about it. Honestly, just eat an orange, eat a banana.
00:18:51
Speaker
eat some good meat that came from a happy cow and shut up. Let's move on to some other things like this. The diet thing should be freaking... It's like tying your shoes. If you had to every day spend an hour learning how to tie your shoes, you wouldn't get much done. You wouldn't
00:19:11
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do much adulting. It's like basic things, man. We should have known this by the time we're like maybe 15, 16 at the latest, maybe 18 at the latest. And then we should be happy and thriving because we eat good, real food and we know how to take care of our body. And with that happiness and thriving,
00:19:31
Speaker
sort of vibe we should be out there improving the world not barely freaking surviving and just trying to keep it together until the weekend so then we can you know have some some a few drinks and maybe watch some Netflix and and order some takeout and just veg out on the couch and just muster up strength so we can do that for another five days be a wage slave and then survive through the week on coffee
00:19:59
Speaker
and then Jesus Christ do just repeat this at least you kind of you know just slowly perish and and God knows like coffee masks all the symptoms of unwellness and it sneaks up on you one day and you gotta go to the doctor and the doctor's like oh you got this label yeah let's see if we can cut something out of you maybe I think does it hurt here maybe you need to remove your gallbladder or something
00:20:25
Speaker
Yeah, well you know what though? This turned into discussion on health and the disturbing nature of health influencers on Instagram and Facebook and TikTok. But it all comes back down to brainwashing because that's what they're doing.
00:20:42
Speaker
My definition of brainwashing is the process of convincing someone to give up their current or past beliefs in order to take in new beliefs and values. And we see a lot of that when the carnivore, the vegan, the keto, the fasting thing, it's coming at you all the time from all these different directions. And even if you are a level-headed, steadfast person, there's so much of it that it erodes your psyche.
00:21:08
Speaker
and I think that because a lot of brainwashing is done through enculturation,
00:21:15
Speaker
It's just how we're raised. We're raised being brainwashed and not knowing the truth from the brainwashing so we don't have discernment and it screws with us. Because deep down there's this thing in the pit of our stomach that knows that this guy talking about eating raw meat is crazy and it's probably gonna make us sick after some time. Like we can look at the liver king and see that he's on steroids but
00:21:43
Speaker
There's a part of us that denies it because we're like, oh Maybe they're right, you know and what if we don't fit in or You know, whatever programming is going on along there I've never actually seen this Brian Johnson guy deliver King, but holy cow I just I know I've heard of him, but I just saw a picture of him. Oh, yeah, that dude is Juiced up. Yeah, he is juiced up Yeah, but looks cool though. It looks great. I
00:22:12
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Holy God, man, this guy's a beast. It's ridiculous. It annoys me because there's kids and stuff that I know in. They're just they think that he's really buff like that because he he's natural, you know, and so they're eating all these burgers and stuff. It's like, don't do that. Like, don't DPA from what you know, you should be eating to try to look like an idiot.
00:22:42
Speaker
It doesn't make any sense. Just think for yourself. Start early. Think for yourself. It's the parents' fault, bro. Not judging, but it's the parents' fault. These kids are not thinking for themselves. Kind of.
00:23:04
Speaker
I don't know if free will even exists at this point. There's some neuroscience that suggests it doesn't suggest that there's parts of the brain that light up before a person makes a decision. So, I don't know. But a really great book for people who want to know what's going on with the food is Reed Brandwashed by Martin Lindstrom.
00:23:27
Speaker
he tells the name of the book brand washed brand or a N. D. W. A. S. H. E. D. by Martin Lindstrom and he was one of the top marketing guys out there and he's done lots of work for all these brands that he can't really list he kind of gives you hints throughout the book but
00:23:53
Speaker
He tells you how they literally set people up in these rooms, warehouses and stuff overnight. And they put all these products out and they test to see how well they can psychologically break you and get you to buy stuff. And they've done everything, including putting people on brain scans and using technology to blast at people when they're in stores to see, you know, their facial expressions, everything. They've done everything they can
00:24:23
Speaker
to make the products that they sell to you, buyable, right? I just got the book. I typed it in doc.go and PDF after it, brand watched space PDF. And I found the first link. I found a free PDF of it. So I'm definitely going to dip into this book. It's a real interesting reading. It tells you exactly how they target children, right?
00:24:51
Speaker
So awesome. Awesome. Thanks for that one folks. Type in brand washed space, PDF inductor goal. And the first link, if you click on that, it will come up. I literally just downloaded it. And yeah, actually I love the psychology stuff because again, I don't have time to, to dig into it much, you know?
00:25:11
Speaker
Anyway, I think we could talk about health and nutrition forever, but let's talk about something we didn't cover the last time you were on.
Empowered vs. Disempowered Focus
00:25:22
Speaker
Let us talk about the difference between disempowered focus and empowered focus and what's the difference
00:25:32
Speaker
And how do we know what focus mode we're in and how can we escape this empowered focus? Let's start there. Well, I'll start you off with the cliff notes. If you're on your death rectangle and there's a picture of me and my girlfriend, let's not do that. If you're on your death rectangle,
00:25:56
Speaker
and more than five minutes has passed and you haven't achieved anything you're in disempowered focus the same thing goes for being in front of the tv or the computer or whatever if you're not there with a set goal in mind you're going the opposite direction but what i did was i don't think you can put like a link to this image or something somewhere that people can
00:26:21
Speaker
Download it or what? I have to figure that out. The one you gave me? Yeah. I'll see if I can stick it on the website or something with this episode. Or is there any way to put an image in the podcast of itself? I think there is. I'm not sure that it will be big enough for people to see, but I'll think of something. Right.
00:26:47
Speaker
Basically what I have here is a diagram that I made from, the origin of this diagram actually comes from Stephen Covey, seven habits of the highly successful people or whatever it is. It was 24 hours to the highly effective four hour giant in seven days or your money back, something marketing like that, right?
00:27:12
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No, it's seven habits of effective people. Yeah, seven habits of highly effective people or something like that. Yeah. Anyways, so I took that model and I changed it.
00:27:26
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And I came up with this idea of disempowered focus versus empowered focus. Because all the things in the disempowered focus are the things that self-sabotagers are focusing on. And so at the top, I have what controls you. And in red,
00:27:47
Speaker
There's the weather, the news, family, TV and movies, social media, music, the economy, people's ideas about me, wars and terrorism, celebrities, the next threat, what's trending and fashion.
00:28:08
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and there's any person on this planet can look at themselves if they're being honest and be like hey you know what I do worry about these things from time to time or I do see these things on the TV because it's pretty simple my first mentor not my first mentor like my second one I studied NLP and stuff with this guy first thing he said is
00:28:32
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There's a Cryptocracy. Crypto means secret and basically there's a secret government. Who is that secret government? The media. Why do you think the government and the media are so close? They tell you what to think all the time. There's a good chance that something that you believe right now is coming from the media.
00:28:55
Speaker
So all this stuff that I talk about, the TV being bad, it didn't start with me. There's other people teaching this stuff. It's not a new thing. And in that circle, you have your thoughts, your beliefs, your behavior, your opinions, and your choices. So I like to say, when is the last time you had an original thought? And a lot of people cannot answer that question.
00:29:19
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because they're getting all of their information from somewhere else. They're following celebrities. They're worried about what's trending. We have the next threat going, whether it's the Ukraine or Israel or whatever. They're listening to music. Whatever Rihanna did, they got to emulate that. They got to do their hair in a weird thing. You know, everybody's wearing this weird freaking mushroom head.
00:29:47
Speaker
hairstyle now the guys where they got either beads or braids or whatever the hell it is like nobody has any originality anymore right they're worried about the economy is gonna crash all this dumb shit their family has more of a say in what they do than they care to admit if the weather is bad they're in a bad mood
00:30:14
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You get what I'm saying? And that's how people are living their lives. So that's why in the center you have your thoughts because you control your thoughts, your beliefs, you can control those. Ultimately, your behavior is based on your choices.
00:30:29
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Your opinions are ultimately irrelevant if you get them from other people. And your choices, like I said, they're all up to you. You are deciding every day, every minute of the day, what am I going to do? But people who are chronic self-sabotagers, they don't realize that.
00:30:51
Speaker
So by the very nature of self sabotage, engaging in any of these things for too long, you're screwing up your life.
00:31:02
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You have no right worrying about any of that stuff. So on the other side, empowered focus, your attitudes, what you like or dislike, where you live, the places you go, what you read, what you write, what you listen to, what you do for money, what you eat, your beliefs, all those things are your choices.
00:31:23
Speaker
And all those things have control over what you create, over your legacy, what you leave behind for your children, your health, your wealth, your mind, your spirit. We started off this discussion talking about all of that stuff, right? So ultimately, it's what controls you versus what you control. Most people are giving up all of their autonomy, all of their individualism to other stuff.
00:31:56
Speaker
I agree. Yeah. So true, man. Folks listening up, normally I'm too lazy to create a post for an episode, but for this one, I will create a post on my website and I will link it. If you click it in the show notes, this image will come up so you can see exactly what we're talking about. It looks
00:32:25
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It looks really, when you kind of look at what controls you, it's like, yeah, today I was walking my dog in the morning and this weather, or rather the rain really started lashing down on me, right? So I think
00:32:41
Speaker
Just that alone how many people's attitude about the day is can be wrecked by the weather it's because it's raining it's gloomy you can't get out of the house you know and then what are you gonna do you gonna open your phone i'm just going in kind of. Around your circle of the things you've written.
00:32:59
Speaker
then you you know you check out your phone and oh my god you know Israel declared war and then you know someone in your family decides they need they need you to do something for them or you're gonna watch some something on Netflix that is further you know brainwashing you and changing your choices what you value like what what is a healthy person what is a beautiful person what are things to value material possessions you must acquire in order to be you know
00:33:28
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elevate yourself to the next level in society or whatever else social media yeah like the music like some dude some of the music like some people listen to can you imagine listening to pop music and stuff on the radio and stuff on MTV all your life just that alone
00:33:46
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how much that will brainwash you and influence you. And a lot of satanic sort of motifs like Beyonce, Jay-Z, all these satanic motifs in music nowadays. Imagine exposing your children to that from a super early age. That is horrendous.
00:34:07
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I mean, that is a valid point. There is some dark stuff going on. I was just talking with my girlfriend yesterday about one of the kids she put on her playlist and one of the songs was talking about eating your ass like a cupcake. Jesus, dude.
00:34:36
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I was annoyed by that. I'm a different animal than my girlfriend is. I would have taken her phone and thrown it out the fucking window. And she would not be getting another one because that's just ridiculous. She should know better by now that listening to stuff like eating your ass like a cupcake is ridiculous. But what's the other one she was listening to? Pop it like a wheelie or something like that.
00:35:02
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And it's just all sexual innuendo non-stop. Yeah, it's disgusting dude. Yeah, and we're starting to notice that there's like certain things about this kid's behavior that are changing. Especially now that she's getting into boys and stuff like that.
00:35:19
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And it's like, well, no shit. If you're listening to pop it like a wheelie and you know. Yeah. What is it? There's one lyric in that song that's really weird, like slob on my cat or something like that. Jesus, like you. You're just fucking disgusting that that that kids have to be exposed to that. And these people perpetrating this are just sick, sick, sick puppies, dude.
00:35:45
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Yeah, just I don't know. I'm trying to be PC already in the language more recently on the podcast, but that's just makes me really fucking angry, bro. Yeah. This is the problem, though. There's still so many people that don't realize that
00:36:09
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all this stuff, it matters. It's not like, you know, they'll get over it. These kids, they can't make decisions for themselves. There's something in a teenager's brain, especially where they still have not learned to decide what is good and what is bad. They're all running off of social proof. Like I went through the stages of cognitive development with you last time, I think. John Piaget's stages of cognitive development.
00:36:34
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And we're all just in a never-ending cycle of trying to resolve programming. But if something's repetitive and it's, you know, social proof will say it's good or it's fun, they're never going to make a choice for themselves to do the opposite.
00:36:53
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I've met very few kids that actually want to think for themselves. A big part of the problem, too, like you said, is that some of the parents are into this stuff. Oh, yeah. I know a girl right now that she's got a lot of issues and her kids only eight years old and her kids already got all the same issues as her at eight. She's yeah.
00:37:18
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I mean, we internalize it from our parents. That's why I'm just really, with my wife, before she got pregnant, we were doing a lot of internal work with, I don't know if you know Mark Waleen, his first book was called, It Didn't Start With You, about transgenerational trauma.
00:37:42
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Yeah, generational trauma. Yeah, it's really good book. So we're doing that kind of stuff and other internal work. So hopefully we would imprint less because it's just by default just because life is so hectic and stressful by default you imprint so much
00:37:58
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of your bad habits on your kids. So the more you can consciously try to bring to light and ideally remove from your psyche early on, the better off. I guess your kid will be long-term and your whole lineage will be long-term. But what the hell was that? Where was I getting at? Yeah, exactly. These kids are internalizing our state.
00:38:25
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from a very early age. So if you're really messed up, like if you're
00:38:33
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in and out of relationships or your parents are fighting a lot or God forbid the kid has to live through a divorce. A lot of these dysfunctional patterns will be their model for how they create relationships with the opposite sex or whatever sex they're attracted to.
00:38:56
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I think a lot of people, we're still operating on a very, like you said, we're very infantile for a very long time. A lot of us are very, very much operating at a very infantile level where we're not, we're not understanding how, actually how complex this whole milieu is. And it's not, oh, you know, I, my kid, I was frustrated. I was tired. My kid was annoying. So I just shouted, hoping she would stop.
00:39:24
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And like these things are imprinted like even I find myself like when I'm kind of at the end of the day really tired after a long day of doing stuff and whatever else and my kid is like, you know, putting herself in a dangerous position. So I'm like,
00:39:40
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Sometimes I'm not shouting at her, but like I said, no, get off there. You know, and like I told you, that's dangerous. And I know once in a while it's OK, but I know being in that pattern because you're stressed is very easy to get to. And this really imprints on the child and changes their their whole psyche forever and how they interact with other people. And usually in a negative way. Things like that are different. Like that's why I said I would throw the damn phone out the window. I don't care because at some point the dad
00:40:08
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The male figure has to say, no, that's a boundary. And there has to be a big consequence. Like the kid has to suffer if they're going to continue to push that boundary. There has to be some, some consequence that is going to show them that I'm serious and no, you're not getting another phone. You know better than this, but I'm not a shelter either.
00:40:32
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I don't think there's any merit in shouting for any reason unless somebody's all the way over there. And when you get stressed out and stuff, you just kind of have to realize you need to name it and shame it first off before you deal with the situation. Okay. I'm stressed out. I feel like I want to shout. I feel like I want to get physical. You're going, you, you do exactly what's needed. You pick the kid up.
00:40:59
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and say, I told you, we're not doing that. Here's what we're doing instead. And there's something inside of that kid that fires off subconsciously that they have to take you seriously. They're like, he's picking up, move me. He's serious. Because they have to be aware of, like they have to learn to, on the other end of things, they have to know that your moods
00:41:21
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are readable things they have to be able to read the room because a lot of these kids they grow up these days and they don't you know this is where all this social anxiety and shit's coming from they don't know what people's facial expressions are they can't read the energy or anything like that so
00:41:36
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And all this sugar and stuff that's going in these kids brains, it makes them impenetrable in a way because they can't see. The TV screen screws up their ability to see that, too. Yeah. All these mobile phones and iPads and stuff breaks them so they can't tell what's going on with other people. So you've really got to do the artistic thing show. Don't tell, you know, that's the first rule.
00:42:03
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You know what I noticed, bro? It's hilarious. But I don't know, was it my wife or did I send it to her? But I saw some article that I didn't read because I don't read bullshit articles on social media. But somewhere something was posted. Apparently kids misbehave 800 percent more when they're with their moms as opposed to that when they're with the dad. So I sent that just the article to my wife and she's like, you know, laughing.
00:42:33
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because it seems like that's the case. We and my daughter will be spending the whole morning together and not a single moan, cry, tear is shed. We're just having fun, reading books. At one point she'll do her thing. I'll kind of clean around the kitchen, whatever else. Then my wife comes home and then it starts.
00:42:56
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yeah mama this and you know like all this kind of stuff and then when my wife was alone with with my daughter for a few hours my wife is freaking exhausted because she's demanding she wants to be held she's in her face do this climbing on her whatever else and
00:43:13
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like yesterday no even it was today I was cooking something and she's coming up to me and she's like what's this uh she's like you know in this uh in the book and like I'm there over a hot stove you know I'm like like I'm busy at the moment I can't tell you what that is right now you know and then she goes to to um to my wife and but but the thing is she already sees when I'm not I'm not
00:43:41
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I did not necessarily not in the mood but i'm not available to engage whatever like is that teddy bear look i can't look at teddy bear now she sees that. Because she sees i'm being serious i'm not making eye contact i'm doing something and she knows already two years of age for whatever reason it's a bit more the story with with the moms.
00:44:00
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but it's interesting how you say if you're kind of just looking at people on a screen because especially like on a movie you're only seeing snippets of a conversation with very static images and people talking and you're not really seeing the same vibe and you're not feeling the energy of the person and if you're on a phone a lot of your energy
00:44:25
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It's actually changed because you're you know in a better state or whatever better freaking waves in the brain i'm not even sure what what exactly that is but you're also getting exposed to emfs with which could be disrupting some type of metabolism of the cell so i can see why.
00:44:43
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Children nowadays are disadvantaged in terms of their social development and are developing social anxiety, which is then freaking treated with SSRIs or tranquilizers, which is just a level of evil and criminality that I scarcely can begin to comprehend, man.
Technology's Impact on Children
00:45:04
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Yeah, you got to bear with me here. Somebody came along outside and upset the chickens. They're real mad now.
00:45:11
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though it's okay they're not so loud now with this with this mic setting oh yeah yeah but yeah that i don't know if it's 800 times more that seems like an over exaggeration 800 percent it has 800 yeah that seems like over exaggeration i've heard that
00:45:30
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And it just goes to show you how quickly these mind viruses kind of spread around the planet. I see it. I see that children experience these micro rejections anytime you're doing anything.
00:45:47
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that takes away focus from them they go nuts yeah and um i think that that is one of the problems that these death rectangles every time i say death rectangle i hold this up yeah people know that that's that's all it fosters that'll be on airplane mode now bro
00:46:05
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this. I never turn my phone on airplane mode because I just don't respond to anybody's messages. I don't care. No, I mean, it should be on airplane mode. Therefore, it shouldn't be giving you face cancer or whatever. Otherwise, it's irradiating you.
00:46:21
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Well, it can irradiate me. I never use it. Oh, it's off, is it? Yeah. I just turned it off after I showed you the thing. Yeah. Good, good, good. Sorry, I interrupted. It's usually off most of the time when I'm not using it. I'll turn it on, turn it off. I'm surprised it hasn't broken yet. I just throw it around everywhere. Anyways.
00:46:47
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What was I saying? These kids, they don't know what's going on when you're doing anything, but these phones and stuff create rejection in a child because they don't have any sense of time either or distance.
00:47:07
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or any ability to regulate. And so if you're more interested in something that looks ridiculous to them, I mean, look at this. This is just a piece of plastic. They're like, why is daddy or mommy always playing with their toys and not with me? So they learn that a hunk of plastic is more important than them. What are you teaching your kids? Yeah.
00:47:36
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So sometimes like when you're over the hot stove or whatever, you just gotta ask the kid, are you hungry? Because I'm cooking. That's the only thing you can do. Even if it comes off a bit snarky, like I'm cooking for you. Can't talk about teddy bears now.
00:47:52
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Do you want those tacos or do you want me to tell you what this animal is that I told you 16 times yesterday and you already know? Exactly. Just wants attention, you know, but you got to bear with those things because life is not perfect. And I think that people also make bad parenting choices because they get caught up in this idea that I need to be a perfect parent.
00:48:15
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or there's the other spectrum where they just don't care. I think the problem with perfection is also if you then make a mistake, you can completely fall off the wagon because
Perfectionism and Productivity
00:48:26
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it's not perfect. Therefore, it might as well disintegrate completely. I think this, I don't know where this comes from. Maybe you can tell us your view on why people are perfectionists, but I think that's when I
00:48:41
Speaker
Let go of that. It allowed me to actually start getting more stuff done and start producing more things that were imperfect, but they were better than not doing anything because of the fear of it's going to suck. First iteration will suck. So I'm going to procrastinate by researching all these things and not actually put pen to paper or whatever I'm trying to do.
00:49:07
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See that's an interesting one because I have a few theories that I can come up with and it's all research based. If you look at the history of childhood trauma,
00:49:27
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That is and this is gonna I'm gonna give a disclaimer here because there's a lot of licensed psychologists and people who think that they're smart because they have a PhD that attacked me or they like I disagree because they've been brainwashed as well.
00:49:46
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And I don't know how many times I have to explain the Jean Piaget thing for people to get it. But childhood trauma is just a label that has been taken over the decades and plastered onto everything. The imperfection that we have
00:50:06
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It comes as a result of being a soul that ultimately knows that it has been separated from this source of creation and it has to find its way back to that. It has to find its way back to this idea of perfection by carving away what it is or what it isn't like a sculpture.
00:50:33
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subconsciously we're looking for that and we're looking for other people's approval when we're children we're trying to learn things so that we can fit into the society so that we don't die all that stuff right but I mean
00:50:49
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If you look at how we're raised with the concept of the infantilization, where from the time we are born, we are dependent on someone else to feed us, clothe us, clean us, approve of our behavior, disapprove of our behavior, to tell us what's right, what's wrong, what's, you know,
00:51:13
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All of that kind of becomes the lens that we view things through.
00:51:21
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So for a child, the concept of a crisis and a regular everyday emotional stimulus are one in the same. But people want to hype that up and say it's childhood trauma and all this stuff. And now we have all these idiots walking around talking about attachment styles and this other garbage about
00:51:50
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trauma bonding and all this stuff, right? You think that's BS, yeah? The problem is that there's something to it but it's been taken and spun on its head just like everything else and it's been weaponized now. So everything's childhood trauma, everything's because of your attachment styles, everything's because of
00:52:15
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some crisis affliction that you've had that's destroyed you on the inside and all of that so that they can give you medication. All that so they can give you a label and push you into a box and keep you really small and what people will do
00:52:38
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is they know that the human farmers, they know that if a person has a label, they will become that. That will be their identity for anything up to a lifetime and it will not change until someone gives them a better label that works.
00:52:55
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because we've been infantilized. It's done on purpose. Everything about the way society is set up is to keep us in that childlike state of disequilibrium. And what parents need to do
00:53:12
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It is exactly what was done before childhood trauma was a household concept. Discipline your children. Teach them right from wrong. Teach them how to develop the correct coping skills and how to respond to the things that feel like crisis appropriately.
00:53:32
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So now there's no longer a distinction between someone who has been traumatized because someone interfered with them, abused them, and a person who stubbed their toes a lot when they were a kid because mommy was walking and they were trailing behind and they didn't see where they were going and they smacked into something or their mom had to get shitty with them over homework or something like that. Everything is a trauma now.
00:54:01
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Every single thing is a trauma and people are constantly looking to the past by nature for something to be wrong. That's what we do. It's the cognitive behavioral model. A plus B equals C. A being the trigger, B being the belief about it, and that equals C, a consequence. And unless we teach our children to think like that,
00:54:27
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We're not going to raise like what we talked about in the last episode of fully functioning human being. We have to teach them from early that the way that you feel is not you. And that will get rid of half of the trauma in adulthood. Nobody talks about adulthood trauma. You get what I'm saying? Why is that?
00:54:50
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Because anything can happen at any time that makes a change to your emotional state, hacks your limbic system, and you create new subconscious programs, which are meanings that you assign to something, or you begin to run existing subconscious programs. But then we have the TV, which does a lot of stuff to people because if anybody's ever watched an episode of Friends or something,
00:55:17
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You know, you learn to keep secrets. This is the actual thing that's happened in my sessions, by the way. A person learned to keep secrets because that's what they did on Friends. Or I think I told you about the lady that she just started smoking. She can't quit smoking and she has problems with men and stuff because Bridget Jones's Diary is one of her favorite movies.
00:55:37
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She all you were saying you're saying that right so I love to use those examples cuz they're easy and Everybody can relate to it because most people have seen friends
00:55:51
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I have someone in my life that will remain nameless that turned into a moniker about the cleanliness, like a fucking psychopath level. You know what I mean? Like loop the loop. She'll remain nameless. But yeah, that's how powerful this stuff is. And you're right, that's another nice term that you use the human farmers. They know that. They know people will be influenced by that.
00:56:18
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Yeah, I can't remember where I took that human farmers thing from. It was in a book I was reading. I think it was on. I think it was called Operation Mind Control. I can't remember who the author is. Walter Bowman, somebody like that anyways. But yeah, I didn't really mean to get on to this whole psychological childhood trauma thing, but
00:56:49
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You have to teach people crisis management. You have to teach them how to give themselves psychological first aid from the time they're a child because I like to use this example of like a little kid on a playground. If a kid falls down and scrapes their knee, they look around for approval first. They're looking for the parent to be like, hey, that was terrible. What happened to you? But if you don't do that, then you don't reinforce that crisis mode.
00:57:19
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And that should be so simple for people. But it's not. And so if you look at where psychological trauma is really coming from, the root of childhood trauma started only in the later part of the 19th century. It started with a guy called Jean-Martin Charcot or something like that. And he basically was the guy that was talking about hysteria in women, I think it was. And where he was saying that
00:57:51
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Like whenever people were coming down with hysteria, they just were incoherent. They couldn't describe what was going on with them. And I'm searching for the right words here in the right storyline because a lot of the people that are pushed. Yeah, that's really what I want to say. A lot of people who are pushed in your face all the time and they're like, this is the end all be all of psychology like Sigmund Freud.
00:58:18
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and stuff. Who by the way, fuck Sigmund Freud. I mean I don't really want to be like that but fuck Freud. Freud was notoriously bad at hypnotherapy which is why he had to stay in the lane that he was in.
00:58:35
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I mean, the dude clearly wanted to bang his mom. Excuse me. He had a lot of psychological problems himself that Warren dealt with. So he had no right to be telling anybody about anything. He was a crack at his whole life. He was on coke. Yeah, he was. Yeah. He even wrote Uber coca about how much he loved cocaine.
00:58:53
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And when he couldn't snore cocaine anymore because he had a sinus problem, he eroded his sinuses, he would just put it in water and get a small paintbrush and rub it on the inside of his nostrils so he could get high. He was always high. Now why on earth would you take psychological facts from a cokehead? Whoa, whoa, whoa. So uber coca was
00:59:19
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On Freud's experiences with cocaine, that's the thing he wrote, right? Yeah. Freud's cocaine discoveries. Holy Jesus. Right.
00:59:32
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holy jeez and so yeah and the same thing goes for Carl Jung too Carl Jung was kind of crazy and he was a dark occultist really yeah so you're basically you could as well be taking theories from any person from the Theosophical Society that they're just talking spiritual stuff CW lead beater or Annie Bassan or any of those darker occultists
00:59:56
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So you think the Theosophical society, was there anyone in there that was good, like Blavatsky or something? Dark occultist. Yeah, a lot of these people, they have their lighter side, but then they also were mostly dark, they were into the darker arts.
01:00:14
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and stuff like that, right? And all of this is stuff that's suppressed. But I think that people are largely disadvantaged where this is concerned because we're just forced to believe whatever narrative is out there about someone. If we have the light and the dark, we can make a choice on our own. That's our personal choice. So that's how they take free will from us. And they're like, Sigmund Freud said this, so it must be true. William James said this, so it must be true.
01:00:43
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but what William James was a plonker too or what William James was I guess could be considered the father of modern psychology essentially and
01:00:57
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where I'm going with the William James thing is that you're dealing with human beings who are also imperfect. They are not very good at causal linkage. In other words, what is the cause of this effect?
01:01:14
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They're just using whatever research they have in the moment to quantify something that isn't static. Does that make sense? Everything exists on a large spectrum when you're dealing with a human psyche. One thing that causes something in someone else might not do something to the other person.
01:01:37
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So you're talking about Sigmund Freud and William James and I think it was Pierre Genet who were trying to come up with a cure for hysteria and that's really the root of the childhood trauma because it evolved over the years and then they started figuring out that people would go into altered states of consciousness
01:01:59
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based on these emotional reactions to what the individual person deemed as being traumatic.
01:02:08
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So here we are with this theory again that something could happen to me. I might think it's traumatic, but you'd be like, oh, that's nothing, bro. This is what happened to me the other day. Right. So we have to be careful with this and put that childhood trauma thing back into the box where it belongs because it's been taken and it's been hijacked. And a lot of this stuff is really the reason why we've seen it come up so
01:02:37
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often over the past few decades because it really just only came to light somewhere around 1992. I think it was
01:02:52
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After World War I, I think that's when it really started coming out with the PTSD thing because that was originally called shell shock. I think that was what I call Charles Myers. And what he was trying to do is he was trying to make it into a nervous disorder because
01:03:12
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it was directly correlated. The cause was the exploding shells in the war, right? And so what they figured out is that the soldiers that didn't see any combat at all would also get the same kind of condition. And
01:03:34
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I'm trying to remember exactly what it is they said. I think it was that it was just exposure to war alone was enough to produce hysteria. And they realized that women that were having hysteria and the soldiers that were just merely exposed to war, it was essentially the same phenomenon.
01:04:08
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actually at first they were like, is this really a disorder or is this just cowardice? Is this some kind of a neurosis that these people developed? And then
01:04:27
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that's when they started like giving electric shock therapy and stuff like that trying to it's i don't know why they thought this would work but they thought they would scare the trauma out of the guy bro but to me to me all this stuff about trauma this was a childhood trauma and you know i by the way i do believe
01:04:46
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I do believe that trauma can play a role, but definitely is overblown. But it's another way to keep us in that victim state where you're very, very disempowered.
01:05:03
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Swam a blank. Exactly. That's what you're saying. What you're saying is exactly it. And so the root cause and we would see less trauma of any kind if we would just teach emotional intelligence, if we would just teach self-regulation, if we would just be the, I wouldn't say the pinnacle of self-regulation, but if we could learn to deal with our emotions, our children would learn how to deal with our emotions.
01:05:31
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If we would learn to step out of the victimhood and, you know, step out of that Stephen Cartman's victim triangle, the victim persecutor rescue word thing, if we could learn to live like that, children would have less trauma and there would be less crap that people would have to deal with later on in their lives. And then there wouldn't be any adulthood trauma. You get what I'm saying? Because tough things happen all the time. Tough thing, that's just the nature of life.
01:06:03
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Yeah, I do like Stanislav Groff's work. Have you looked into kind of the birth trauma? I honestly believe that that is probably a bigger cause of, I suppose, because if you have some type of trauma, I remember one case in one of his books.
01:06:23
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he was talking about the guy, I think the dude was born and the umbilical cord was wrapped around his neck, so he was being suffocated during the birth process, so he would put himself in dangerous situations, he would get guys to kind of like, you know,
01:06:48
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sadomasochistically sort of torture him, you know, strangle him. He would put himself in these positions and he'd find these guys that would want to do that. And this pattern started there and after LSD psychotherapy, once he experienced that birth trauma and it escaped his body because it was kind of the wave was allowed to complete
01:07:10
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and you know joined back in the ocean or whatever analogy you can use there that those patterns disappeared and I noticed when my dog is terrified she was very traumatized when we adopted her but any dog is like this but when she's very terrified
01:07:26
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She just starts to shake, shake, shake, shake, shake. And then, you know, an hour later, it's as if it never happened. She doesn't hold any, any of this trauma. It's just, I think what you said about emotional regulation probably feeds right into there, because if we learn how to experience, not the trauma, but the event that was disturbing in whatever way, physically, emotionally, if we, if we learn how to experience it fully and not latch onto it in the body somehow,
01:07:56
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Maybe that's that's one of the emotional regulation ways that where we can just you know, move on the next day you wake up with you know, blank slate. Yeah, well, you know, the the dog chivering thing is like the David burcellis work on trauma release exercises and stuff where he just makes people shake and that's what like does it work combat? Yeah, it works for combat veterans and stuff that have PTSD and stuff.
01:08:23
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He puts them through these exercises and they move that out of the body, but then you have to learn to deal with that psychological aspect of it. It all comes back down to this holistic approach. If you're walking around in a state of fear all the time, then you're going to look for everything to be a debilitating form of trauma for you.
01:08:48
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If you don't know how to deal with it, you're living with the mind of an infant, you're going to think that everything is traumatic. And that's why I get into cognitive distortions because in self-sabotage, we all have these cognitive distortions where we're catastrophizing or we have black and white thinking and all these different things.
01:09:10
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But that's how little kids think. So it's easy to try to pin the blame on childhood trauma. But then I love to talk about Dr. Tana Denim in her book, Manufacturing Victims, where she calls out the industry. Basically, the psychologists and psychiatrists will put people on a couch and talk to them.
01:09:33
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And they will not really so much regress people but keep poking around in the same area all the time.
Optimal Health Conditions
01:09:41
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And if you keep poking around in a person's mind in a particular time period looking for problems, a person's going to believe maybe I do have problems that started in childhood. And a lot of that's what's going on. And that's why I'm an unpopular person when I start talking about this kind of stuff.
01:09:58
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But I think that's ridiculous because we can't help people if we're not looking at the whole picture. We're not looking at what's really going on. I know exactly what you're talking about. That's what I said earlier. Academia, science, medicine, they're looking to find pathology, whereas the secret, not the secret, but the key is to create conditions for optimal health, be that physical, emotional, psychological, whatever health you're talking about.
01:10:28
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That's what we have to focus on instead of, but let's figure out when you were four, did your, you know, your uncle pull your ear because the stupid adults thought that you were trying to cross the road when a car was coming, even though you weren't, which is actually one of my, one of my early traumatic memories. I was crossing, I was playing with my ball. We were up in the mountains with our family and my cousins and
01:10:56
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I dropped my ball on the road and there was a car moving very slowly and I was on the sidewalk and I knew I had to wait for the car. Maybe I was four, I don't know, five, I don't know, I don't remember. I knew I had to wait for the car and I just put one foot down from the sidewalk onto the street and I was still three meters away, four meters away from the car. But this car, it was going so slow
01:11:25
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The guy just rammed the brakes and the tire screeched and everybody sort of got in a kerfuffle. And I was there like, Jesus Christ, you know? So then my mother, my dad was there, I'm going to kick your ass. And my mother was like, oh, what's happening? And then I remember later my uncle, like they created this whole big fucking hubbub over nothing, bro. My uncle was there, don't cross the road if there's a car.
01:11:48
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I was working with an NLP dude two, three years ago on some stuff and I remember this and I just remember looking at it from an adult's point of view, disassociating from the emotion. I can see how that can traumatize people because all of those adults in my family, they were
01:12:10
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In that moment of time they were all just irrational retards with completely detached from the true situation of what happened you know what I mean so had I did if I had the ability to explain to kind of be level headed because the whole time was just like looking around like.
01:12:29
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What the fuck is going on? You know what I mean? I had no idea what's going on. So I can see adults being retards, which many are, unfortunately, because we're just repeating the same patterns and imprinting from our early childhood.
01:12:46
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It's going to cause a lot of issues with kids, but I don't feel like I was traumatized by that experience. I'm annoyed. The reason I mention it now is I remembered a few days ago when we were talking with my wife, it jogged the memory, so it's fresh in my head now. But it's annoying now when I
01:13:08
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think about it from an adult's perspective of how retarded these people raising us are when you actually think about it, but it's not traumatizing. Yeah. A lot of stuff that happens is just ridiculous, but you see how your mind is just passing things through these filters, right? Yeah.
01:13:32
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I see stuff like that you were correct, stuff like that, that's not trauma, it's just an event. But we're being conditioned to think that everything is a trauma rather than seeing some things as events that we have the power to change at any time. If you can remember it, you have the power to change it. And until that becomes a popular idea in society, I don't know what's gonna happen to all of us, right?
01:14:00
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And if you can't remember it, there's always Ayahuasca, LSD, San Pedro. Or you can pay me to slap you. I can slap the shit out of you and remember it real quick. This is like, it's crazy.
01:14:19
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Because this gets into the conversation of memory and stuff. This is why EMDR is really useful for trauma or non-trauma. It doesn't matter. Or even some of the things that I do with people are very useful because
01:14:38
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You have things like implicit memories that are just made up of like actions that you've taken and that are based on your emotional conditioning and you can consciously access those things.
01:14:54
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But those fall under the category of like your motor skills, you know, learning to walk and stuff. You don't really have to remember how to walk. That's all subconscious, right? So if you have a bad accident, though, you have to relearn to walk and it takes a long time, but you don't actually have to remember that.
01:15:13
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You just have to retrain the body to tap back into that, right? So it's kind of like when you have to defrag your computer or something. But then you have explicit memories where you can consciously recall these things at any time and they're just files on a computer hard drive.
01:15:28
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And I think it's semantic, which is semantic memories are like your knowledge of something. Ideas about something and episodic memories are like experienced events. And if most people could become aware of that idea alone, that's very empowering because you realize, OK, I have these two categories of of memories and I can actually do stuff with them all the time. Right. But
01:16:00
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When I really want to take this, there's different parts of the limbic system because you know, this is what I talk about that it's the hippocampus and like the amygdala and stuff, right? Everybody knows by now what the amygdala is, I would hope.
01:16:15
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And that's all about the regulation of fear. So the question is, if I remember something, how afraid am I of it? And what's the purpose for that fear? What was I trying to protect myself from? But the amygdala is also going to kind of encode you with sensory information.
01:16:39
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If it's something that has to do with being safe, it's going to try to hardware as much information as possible into you. Even stressful things like your daily everyday stress. And the more emotion there is, the more I guess the more information is going to be stuck in your body. But stuff like the hippocampus is responsible for your time perception. And
01:17:07
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It helps win the storage of memories, but man, this is so much information. I feel like I'm just like dumping right now. Increased levels of emotion and stress actually impair the function of the hippocampus. So there's this distortion that occurs between you and the thing that you're remembering, right? And that's what kind of, in my opinion, that's what kind of makes
01:17:38
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Uh, a present trauma from the past feel so real. You get what I'm saying? Like just that area of the brain. And that's why like some like just smoking weed works for some people because the hippocampus is what is really affected by that marijuana. Right. And it can help them deal with stuff like that. And I think that that's the basics of psychedelics, too, because it activates that part of the brain and it releases those memories.
01:18:07
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And it really gives you the information of what time period it happened, how much stress you were under. But then you can actually, for the first time, step back from the event itself. And you can look at it and be like, oh yeah, that really wasn't a trauma. That's embarrassing, you know?
01:18:27
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Yeah, it's interesting. A couple of days ago I was looking at some studies where apparently chronic stress, atrophies, the hippocampus and the prefrontal cortex where memory learning
01:18:50
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executive function are facilitated by those regions. And I think it was a, they were seeing, this was a rat studies, animal studies, but they were seeing increased growth, evidence for increased growth in the amygdala. So I can really see how chronic stress, which, you know, cortisol, although when you're a kid,
01:19:17
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before puberty you have more of the youth hormones like progesterone, pregnant alone and DHEA they're protective against or the counterbalance cortisol much better but you know cortisol production peaks around I think 11 or 13 years of age and it stays that way or increases whereas the other things start to go down with age so I can see how
01:19:43
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elevated cortisol chronically with those effects and the other effects it has on the organisms can really distort. I think also cortisol can help consolidate
01:19:59
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short-term memories so you can actually it's like a protective mechanism so if something happens it raises your cortisol let's say you know you burn yourself that raises your cortisol it imprints that memory so you don't do that again but I guess if it's elevated long-term it can dysregulate a number of different regions of the brain other hormones protective hormones
01:20:22
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And I think that's where a memory can get kind of just an event can get stuck quote unquote and then we can sort of create a trauma or create a mountain out of a molehill where you know.
01:20:40
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For example, if you're in the context of PTSD, if you go and see pretty horrific events, if your cortisol is super high for an extended period of time, if you're protective or counterbalancing steroid hormones or not doing their job because of diminished production in your 30s or 40s, I can see how
01:21:03
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that along with ruminating will create this sort of recurring traumatic rumination memories. And at that point, I really feel like you need a more serious intervention and be that some type of supplement that can
01:21:21
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actually diminished cortisol production or hypnotherapy or NLP there's a lot of different ways to skin the cat but I really think there comes a time where if you've let that process go on for too long you're gonna need somebody to help you out be that someone like yourself Johan or a supplement certain supplements can or certain pharmaceuticals they can
01:21:44
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Work really well to oppose cortisol or block cortisol and actually things that can exercise. But here's the thing. That's what I'm saying. Sometimes meditation, exercise, breath work are not enough. If you've let that
01:22:00
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damage occur or that that thing accumulates for so long that it's diagnosed with PTSD or some serious other thing sometimes you need I think you need more help than just you know taking a walk and meditating and things like that eating well and exercising
01:22:16
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Yeah, I think that you're so bad that somebody's giving you a label for PTSD. You need to go immediately to someone else's office that's going to start walking you through these steps to learn how to self-reflect because it's coming right back down to what are the solutions that we have. Self-reflection.
01:22:39
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We don't spend enough time alone anymore and we're not skilled anymore asking ourselves questions about what actually happened. When something really traumatizing is happening, let's get theoretical here. Let's go back to what a normal memory is. A normal memory is like a birthday party or something and that gets
01:23:09
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stuck to use your words in you with a date stamp and you remember that your 30th birthday was really great or whatever and it's like a picture and you can see yourself in the memory and
01:23:24
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It's a real objective position so you can become aware that it's an event from the past, right? And that makes it easy, but traumatic memories for people are more like movies. And this is where Crackhead Freud's repetition compulsion theory comes into play because that's something that he was right about. It's repetitive. It's a movie that plays over and over and over. But you don't have a timestamp. It's really hard to get
01:23:53
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a read on when it actually happened and your brain is kind of going to put you in the position of re-experiencing that again.
01:24:04
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So you can become extremely hyper aware that you're aware of this thing. You're aware of the fact that you're on red alert, so to speak. And you're just reacting sporadically to these triggers.
01:24:26
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as if that thing is happening again. Some people, if they're raped or whatever, it's the same effect as being in the military and something terrible happens because then when a car backfires or something, you're out in the military, you're like, oh shit, gunshots. But the brain is just tricking you into thinking that bad things are going to happen again.
01:24:57
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It's the exact same phenomenon to the brain as having too many windows open on your computer. It's literally like that. And so that's why people get anxiety and panic attacks and stuff like that.
01:25:12
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What we would call a traumatic memory is just a minimized window on your computer screen. You forgot it was there or you minimized it because you didn't want to deal with it. So the trigger is what clicks on it and it opens up that window and then it causes those flashbacks, those movies and those intrusive thoughts. And it's kind of like when you get pop-ups or whatever.
01:25:35
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So it brings me back to that question, why do we have memories to stay alive and to stay away from danger? And we basically remember what we have learned in order to stay away from a threat to our safety. And that is just to help us again, learn how to behave in society. So when something happens for the first time, that is called it
01:26:06
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initial sensitizing event. And it's usually because the emotional state is so high that you can't process it properly. All those chemicals running through your body, it's like when you take crack or something. It's like, I just feel so good or I just feel so bad. So
01:26:29
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trying to remember the exact name of things I feel like I get on your show and I just dump information but we create this belief system for example that like I am stupid or I'm in danger and it's like this belief system that we have
01:26:52
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it still creates the outcomes and we know subconsciously that something is predictable for us. So that's why we have the anxiety. That's why we have those intrusive thoughts or sometimes we have this underlying feeling that we don't know what's going on and we want to avoid things or whatever. And what I've realized when
01:27:15
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when I'm dealing with people is that the majority of stuff that they are carrying is all made up. It's all made up stuff.
01:27:26
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Like you go back into the memory and suddenly because they're paying attention to it from a safe space, they're like the same experience that you had when you remembered that incident. You're like, oh, well, this is ridiculous. I can't tell you how many people just end up laughing at stuff that really had them walking around with the excuse this terminology with their asshole closed for their entire life, just clenched, afraid that something was going to happen to them.
01:27:55
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So I hope that all the stuff that I'm saying is not overwhelming for people to trade a process but there's a lot of irrational fears and stuff too that I've had to help people with that it's a form of cognitive dissonance where they've just had these belief systems that have come together and like smushed together
01:28:17
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and now they actually don't know the difference between reality and what could actually happen because they just they kind of want you know twisted way to keep those things in place where they are because they're afraid of 20 seconds of processing the emotion you know so
01:28:43
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It's crazy when people come to me and I tell them, Hey, did you know that you can change a memory at any time and it will change your belief system about something? Or if you change your belief system, it will change your memories. And they're like, what? No, that's not true. Like, I swear this thing happened. And then when we get to it and we go through the process of just dealing with the image alone.
01:29:08
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It changes everything that they think about it. And they're like, oh, this is really embarrassing. I think I get that a lot. I think this is really embarrassing a lot. Like they feel silly because they've been tricked by their mind. That's where we get into like deletions and distortions. Again, 80 percent of what happens to you is deleted so that you can try to process it quickly in real time. Right. So we're lying to ourselves all the time. If we are walking around in a culture of lies, Christian,
01:29:37
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That's dangerous. That's why we are the way that we are. That's why the world seems to be getting worse when we're supposedly getting smarter because it's a culture of lies. We get taught to believe lies more than the truth. We get taught to keep the lies rather than search for the truth. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, man.
01:30:00
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This is so true. So much of what we believe is lies. So much of what we're taught in school and in general is lies, man. Even this bullshit with Santa. That's why I told my wife, listen, I couldn't give a rat's ass about it's a nice tradition. When I hear this, that's just...
01:30:27
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No, I'm not saying my wife's saying that, but like when I hear that from family members about Christmas and Santa, that it's a nice tradition, that's NPC talk, right? Agreed. I ain't having that, not having it. Agreed. I'm just gonna be, I'm gonna, look, we can play the game, but if she asks me where did the presents come from, I'll tell you where they came from. Came from Daddy busting his ass day in, day out.
01:30:57
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Pay for them! That's what I came, honey!
01:31:01
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Yeah, exactly. I won't say those words, but I will tell her the truth. And we can play the Santa game. I can dress up as Santa. That's going to be fun. But there won't be the lies associated. We're not going to normalize lying to children when they're, I don't even know, three, four. I don't know what age they start believing in Santa or the tooth fairy or all that horse crap, you know?
01:31:30
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Halloween is another thing where it's like... I hate Halloween bro. I hate it. Yeah but not only that, psychologically you're just saying that whoever you are at the core isn't good enough so you've got to dress up like an idiot and go around getting candy because this is just what we do. That's getting candy as hell. Dysfunctional as hell, you know?
01:31:51
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But, dude, Halloween is one of the major satanic holidays. Like, how this became commonplace in the mainstream to revere it as one of the great holidays of the year. How, how, for God's sake, it's one of their main, I think after May 1st of May, that's like one of their major freaking
01:32:16
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holidays of the Satanists like how is this okay in any way I don't know how we're getting on to this topic but it seems like the last three months of the year are just hell on earth yeah yeah and it's all about siphoning away people's energy but you know what were we really talking about we were talking about trauma and emotions and getting over it
01:32:41
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We can overcome these things really easily. A lot of people's self-talk is the problem. That's what rumination is. Poor self-talk. It's so easy to just deal with it with practice. It doesn't even make a dent in your day.
01:32:57
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Again, because we're conditioned to that culture of lies, we believe the lie that it's harder. We don't realize that passing through pain is a rite of passage. It's what we do as humans. If we didn't have negative reinforcement to teach us, we would never learn anything. That's why if you stick your finger on a fire, you get burned.
01:33:22
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negative reinforcement. It teaches us not to do that again. It doesn't have to be a trauma. You just have to learn how to talk to yourself. You know? Yeah. Surely, though, we don't we don't really learn via negative reinforcement, right? No. Positive, positive enforcement can be great. But hey, you need both. Yeah. Yeah.
01:33:50
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Well, this was great, bro. Um, my head hurts a little, so I'm going to have to, I'm going to have to take a couple hours break. No, I'm kidding. I actually started writing a book, um, recently. So.
01:34:06
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going to be researching stuff about stress hormones and cortisol. The stuff really feeds into what we're talking about because it can be a bidirectional sort of thing. I'm not sure how to elucidate it exactly, but you have the event
01:34:27
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And then you have your response to the event. So the event can cause an increase in stress hormones. But then the response and the chronic response to the event can just remembering the event can increase cortisol. And when cortisol increases, other stress hormones start to increase, including norepinephrine or adrenaline, as it's also known, etc, etc. prolactin, estrogen, serotonin, etc. So I think
01:34:53
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That's why I said earlier, I think because I'm coming again from the more biochemical, you're coming from the psychological side of things, which is awesome. To me, it's a little bit, it's a little bit voodoo to me because I don't understand it very well
Biochemistry in Trauma Management
01:35:11
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at all. But from the biochemical aspect, I think if you can literally
01:35:17
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figure out how to reduce the cortisol level and keep it low. So many of these things disappear. I'll tell you one example, right? It's a quote unquote drug that was
01:35:36
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FDA approved in 2019 called Brexenolone which is actually just allopregnanolone and what allopregnanolone is what we turn from what we create in the body from cholesterol becomes bregnanolone
01:35:52
Speaker
Becomes progesterone and progesterone we ourselves synthesize all of these things progesterone becomes allopregnanolone it's a neuro steroid so it's a steroid in the brain so this FDA approved treatment of allopregnanolone called breccinolone.
01:36:11
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It's just allopregnolone being infused into the, so it was approved for postpartum depression. And they just infused it intravenously, which is for the purposes of charging a lot of money and being gatekeepers and all that jazz, we know that. But these women were given this infusion of allopregnolone once, and these women had moderate and severe, to severe postpartum depression.
01:36:40
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A lot of relief was felt, and four weeks down the line after this one treatment, many of them were still reporting really good results.
Critique of Psychiatric Practices
01:36:49
Speaker
So what does allopregnanolone do? What does progesterone and prognanolone do? Well, these things are natural kind of counter-regulatory, I suppose, chemicals to cortisol that can block
01:37:03
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Cortisol synthesis they can block at the receptor level and there's many other kind of mechanisms in the body so just. That and cortisol on the other hand does the opposite like i said earlier it's been shown to atrophy regions of the brain it can cause a lot it can suppress the immune system.
01:37:22
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chronically, that's why we use corticosteroids to suppress autoimmune things, skin conditions, stuff like that. So if we can come in with the biochemical intervention on top, I'm not saying it should be the only thing, especially in more severe cases.
01:37:43
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but if we can come in both with both of it and have somebody like yourself not and this is kind of so antithetical to what what what currently happens you go to a psychiatrist they ask you about did you want to bang your mom or whatever um you know
01:37:58
Speaker
think when you were two, did your uncle touch you? And let me put you on an antipsychotic and an antidepressant and then like keep coming to me for the next 20 years because like I want to get a second apartment and maybe like a yacht or something like that, right? A small little boat in my Greek apartment there nearby. So as opposed to you reduce the cortisol, reduce the stress hormones biochemically with supplements that are over the counter, progesterone and progenolone are over the counter in the USA.
01:38:28
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You just get them for a few bucks. Some of them are literally a few bucks. And then you talk to someone like yourself that can help you deal with the memory, the stuff, the subconscious self-sabotage. And I don't know how many sessions you do with a client, but I'm sure in a few months time, most people get most of the benefit and they can move on. And you're not looking for customers for life. You're looking to reach a lot of people
01:38:56
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and then hopefully they become more functional human beings and this is kind of the ripple effect we create in the world as opposed to let me get you signed up and keep giving you stuff until you die basically, right? Yeah, I usually work with people for 6 to 12 weeks and it's spread out over a few months. Like the first couple of sessions are pretty close together but then I start putting time depending on the person and how well they're applying it
01:39:24
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But time like spaced that out so that they have time to live their lives and figure things out because I think in a lot of ways we do the same thing because if somebody is coming to me, the first thing I want to know is what do you eat? What do you put in your body? Because a lot of the times if you take out the garbage, mental health improves, eye rockets. Huge, huge. And then all you have to do is teach them how to self-regulate. All you have to do is teach them how to deal with the memories.
01:39:54
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and how to change the internal dialogue and stuff like that. And it's actually not that hard, you know? If we teach people how they think, how they still have this very childlike way of distorting information in the moment, a lot of that clears that up right away.
01:40:13
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Because I think that there's a misconception that this is about being inhuman and indestructible and not feeling any emotions or anything like that. It's not about that. It's about processing and moving on. Because life's not going to stop. So why should you want to get involved in that culture of going to the psychiatrist and
01:40:39
Speaker
Yeah, dude. Dredging out feelings of wanting to bang your mom, like you said. Things like that. Why would you want to go a destructive route like that? Take medication. And there's so much stuff. Because that's all people think that there is for them out there. That's all that you're shown when you go to the conventional butchery system.
01:40:58
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That's why they try to shut people up like us because we're going to be like, no, it's not like that. But there's this, again, that culture of life that's been created and it has far surpassed any of the old ways of thinking, you know, this is all witchcraft to people who don't want to hear it because they want to believe what's socially accepted now, which is to be a dysfunctional person. And that's ridiculous. That's socially acceptable, yeah. Yeah.
01:41:26
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I've been doing some research as well on different medications and stuff and things like Lexapro and stuff and people are jumping off of bridges and stuff after taking this stuff. What's Lexapro exactly? It blocks the serotonin transporter so it's kind of like an SSRI.
01:41:44
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Yeah. And so, you know, what I'm saying with that point is that a time is coming where a lot of people are going to find out what that stuff does. Like they can't suppress it any longer. There's more people having drastic effects of this stuff.
01:42:06
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Benzodiazepines, stuff like that, killing people, changing their personality, all kinds of stuff. It's really messed up what's going on out there. I don't think there's very much longer that these people can hide this information and it's really going to create a problem because I want to see how they're going to figure out how to weasel their way out of that one next.
01:42:30
Speaker
Actually, all these serotoninergic drugs, serotonin is actually very damaging in excess. I'm about to record a podcast episode about it. It's actually far from the happy hormone, but they're actually doing studies with serotonin antagonists and actually some of these, I think Prozac, actually it's a partial
01:42:59
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I believe dopamine agonist. So you get some of the benefit early from, I can't remember if it's from partial serotonin blocker or a dopamine agonist, but the initial improvement you feel from it is from that effect. You're actually blocking serotonin effects.
01:43:16
Speaker
But the long term is the peripheral serotonin accumulation which is cause causes fibrosis and all manner of sexual dysfunction and just a number of different things, you know, but um, I think they're just gonna eventually They're there what this is the business model. This is how evil it looks to me there Because excess serotonin causes all these things like fibrosis which leads to cancer in organs and so on they are coming out with
01:43:47
Speaker
the opposite acting, they're studying the opposite acting things like dopamine, agonist, serotonin, antagonist. And when they create more systemic problems, they will treat those using the new drugs or they will come out and say, you know, this is
01:44:03
Speaker
That was the state of the art but now we've got better science, we've got better research. They're just going to keep adding more treatments and mainly more people and hopefully along the way you get some cancer, some fibrosis that you've got new drugs for because you understand the mechanisms better. You've got customers for life constantly coming back with more and more complex things that you can sell them more treatments for.
Personal Responsibility for Health
01:44:28
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I don't think there's much they're gonna get hurt in any way by the public understanding that they've been getting poisoned with these SSRIs for decades. I don't think anybody's gonna go to jail or anything like that. Yeah, you're probably right.
01:44:45
Speaker
That's dark. It's dark, but at the same time, what can happen is more and more people will see the light that at the best, the system will do nothing for you. So they'll be useless, just waste your time and possibly waste your money. At worst, they'll kill you.
01:45:06
Speaker
And in between will be a lot of dysfunction, procedures, treatments, pills, and a lot of pain and suffering along the way. So the quicker you take responsibility for your health and your family's health, the better off you will be, you know? And this is what the, it all goes back to diet, doesn't it? Like you said already, like if you just take the seed oils out of your diet, man,
01:45:32
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just take the seed oils out of your diet. I think that alone could really reverse a lot of dysfunction in many people. You know, that alone is so powerful. Yeah.
01:45:48
Speaker
And it's actually really simple, isn't it? Yeah. Simple but not easy if you're not prepared to really do the actual work involved. Because if you're eating out every day or eating takeout multiple times a week or both,
01:46:07
Speaker
It's easy to stop buying the seed oils and maybe stop buying processed food and cooking more at home. But if you're out a lot, you have to get smart because everything is freaking doused in seed oils nowadays. We went to Spain a couple of weeks ago for a few days and I was dreading it because
01:46:29
Speaker
I took a bunch of vitamin E and my wife was eating so many things. I was like, listen, grab another vitamin E. She's like, Jesus, you're a bit crazy with the vitamin E. I'm like, it protects you from lipid peroxidation. You need it. You're eating fucking stuff right in sunflower oil.
Medical Industry Criticism
01:46:46
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So two, three days of eating that. Well, I wasn't eating that. I actually was just drinking milk
01:46:51
Speaker
throughout the day as much as I could in orange juice to avoid having to eat solid meals until we could cook something better in the little house we rented. Dude, this is reality for people every single day. They just don't know
01:47:07
Speaker
each one of these meals can contain five to, you know, 20, 25 grams of polyunsaturated fat. The acids that are some of them are already oxidized and they're going to create a lot of damage in your body, including your brain cells and shit and your blood vessels and whatever else. So they just don't realize that that's what they're doing day in, day out. They just go to the doctor when they're 50 or whatever. Oh, uh, atherosclerosis. Oh,
01:47:34
Speaker
cancer and they're like, oh, it must be genetic. Hopefully the chemo will help and stuff. No, that's the plan. I guess that's their plan. Yeah. Surprise, you're fucked up. But it's genetic. We don't know why. This is amazing, dude. Like trillions of dollars invested, literally millions of studies published, millions of studies. And God knows how many more conducted that weren't published.
01:48:03
Speaker
and how many poor animals in these studies millions and millions of animals dead because of all this research and there's not a cure for one fucking thing that's a disease nowadays there's not one that none of it none of it is fucking curable if you go to the doctor not one fucking thing
01:48:27
Speaker
not one can you like can you imagine that you would have thought at least we'd come up with one cure okay we can't cure cancer too complex heart disease too hard but like cure one goddamn thing guys one just one a tiny thing you know like fear of mathematics surely we could cure fear of mathematics yeah let's just not do math
01:48:51
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at all wait there's a sphere of mathematics you know that right in the dsm version 5 yeah there's fear of everything in a damn dsm 5 mathematical anxiety but i think it had um math phobia i think it had a an actual name yeah hey there's a there they're coming up with conditions to describe people like us who'd question the narrative and they're gonna put it in the next dsm
01:49:20
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Was it extremists? Was it domestic terrorists, even though we're not in America? I guess we're domestic external terrorists? I don't know. Something like that. I don't know.
01:49:38
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specific phobia well Johan listen thank you so much bro this was really fun we should do it again you are an absolute wealth of knowledge and i love i love expanding my my understanding of these things it's just the problem is you always like list off a bunch of people and books that i i just
01:49:57
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I don't think I'll have the time. I will buy the books gladly for my collection. And maybe one day when I retire, I will read some of them. But I'm kind of like 500 books backlogged already, so it's going to take a while. But this is why I enjoy talking to people like you, because at least I can get some insights into these things and some practical tools along
Conclusion and Contact Information
01:50:24
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with it. So thank you so much for your time.
01:50:26
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All right. Well, thanks for having me on. I'm sure we'll do this again in a couple of months. Yeah. Yeah. Tell the listeners how they can connect with you before we before we finish.
01:50:36
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So if you want to reach me, you can message me on Instagram. That's Jahan Sator. That's J-E-H-A-N-S-A-T-T-A-U-R. Or you can email me selfsabotageinfo at proton.me. And you can also go to my new website and fill out the contact form selfsabotage.xyz. Yeah, I saw the new website. It's pretty cool. You did that yourself? Yeah, I did it myself.
01:51:06
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Yeah, it's a lot of work, bro. I do my own website as well. And it's not as easy as it looks. Yeah. All right, brother. Thank you so much again. And yeah, we'll stay in touch. All right. Thanks again.