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ROUND ONE REVIEW!!! AFL Fantasy Q&A | #PODPOD
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Round one is done and dusted and months of pre season planning was thrown out the window…Grundy flopped, Xerri flew and many rookies have got our cash generation off to a massive start! Many round 0 premiums continued on their merry way, with Tom Green, Issac Heeney and Nick Daicos all rewarding owners with massive scores!! With other popular premiums like Bontempelli and Dawson making owners regret paying up the big bucks!!!
Where do we go from here?? Many coaches have found themselves with a not so flattering rank as other coaches have got off to an absolute flier!!! Join Holmesy, Harmey and Lewy as they dissect all of the action from round 1 and guide you towards decisions that need to be made ahead of round 2. Trades in the next 2 weeks are some of the most crucial you will make all year, so you will not want to miss this episode!!!
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Transcript
Podcast Kickoff & Intro
00:00:19
Speaker
G'day and welcome to the Pod Pod. It's Holmsey here, chatting all things AFL fantasy classic live on this Monday night, 18th of March. And boys, we've had footy back, uh, really exciting. We've had some up and down rounds, but all in all, absolutely stoked to have fantasy back. Footy's back in, yeah, absolutely loving it. And I've
00:00:40
Speaker
We've got the two guys on here again tonight. No stato, unfortunately. Still busy with work, but hopefully we'll have the FOS back in a few weeks' time, but we'll keep you up to date with how he's
Footy's Return & Weekend Recap
00:00:51
Speaker
tracking. But as always, we've got Louis here at the mainstay of the Pod Pod. Louis, how are you going, mate, after the weekend of footy?
00:00:58
Speaker
Yeah, good, mate. You're right. I was pretty giddy about the footy actually being back. I know it's technically been back for a week now, but definitely just had the tingles on Thursday night before Richmond and Carlton. Yeah, absolutely pumped. And yeah, in turn, we've got Fantasy back too, of course. So that's always nice as well. And joining us, as always, he's been a regular for a long time now. We've got two-time top 10 finisher, John Harmony, mate. How was your weekend?
00:01:27
Speaker
Yeah, pretty good buzz, Holmes. I watched a bit of footy. I sort of caught most of the games to some extent, and yeah, no, Bombers got a win, so I'm up and about, buddy. Yeah, good for your boys, although they didn't come up against much of a hawthorn side, but you must be absolutely stoked. And just like me with my Freya boys, I'm sure you've already got your flights booked to the grand final in September. It's all on.
00:01:54
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. I told Lou today that bombers, everybody riding them off should have a good look at themselves. Yeah, beautiful.
Round Recap & Rankings Discussion
00:02:04
Speaker
So what we'll do is we'll give a bit of a recap of our rounds as we like to do, and then we'll get stuck into the hot topic. So, Lou, why don't you kick us off with your score for the round and where you're ranked currently?
00:02:15
Speaker
Yeah, so obviously Dossi leaving the podcast was pretty devastating. Got some feedback. How are we going to replace Dossi? What are we going to do? So stepped up to the plate.
00:02:26
Speaker
I scored a 1959, which puts me at a 41,424 rank, well and truly entrenched within the Dossie territory there. In fact, I think Dossie might have even beaten me. So, a bit of an average week. The main turning point there is choosing Connor Buderick for a little cheeky cash grab over a Riley Bonner or a Nat 5. That would have been the straight bat and I'd be
00:02:55
Speaker
I'd be nipping at the heels of these other boys, but, um, you went all right as well, didn't you, Hamzy? Yeah, look, I'm in the, I'm in the Dossie ranks as well. But before we get to my score, Hamzy, uh, how'd you go this week? Uh, let's have a look buddy. Let's have a look.
00:03:12
Speaker
Two, zero, one, two. So just ticked over the 2000, which I was pretty happy about. It's funny, isn't it? We talk so often as a group that we sort of started with a few similar players. But yeah, let's have a look. We all sort of finished fairly close together if Lou didn't drop away by 50 odd points. So now it's
Trading Game Strategies
00:03:36
Speaker
pretty solid start. I think 2000 is not a bad effort.
00:03:40
Speaker
Yeah, look, it's just round one. So much still has to come out in the wash. We say it's a trading game for a reason. So absolutely, it wasn't an ideal start for all of us, but to be honest, I think that's more of a positive thing because there's a lot of teams that got auto field and there's a lot of teams that build out really strong starting squads, but don't pay too much attention to their cash gen and things like that. So plenty of time to make up ground with some smart trading.
00:04:08
Speaker
Uh, Stado, so Stado scored the 2002, uh, which has him at a rank of 27,646, which, um, is not a bad start for the foster. It'd be good to have him back so we can actually pick his brain a little bit, although he just seems to ghost us this time every year. So I wouldn't actually have any clue, um, how his team is shaping up.
00:04:28
Speaker
For myself, so I had a 2033, which was, like I said, pretty positive to start. That gets me at a ranking of 17,865, which is about 30,000 ranks higher than where I started this time last year. So to be honest, I'm just taking that as a positive with no Tom Stewart 14 injury like I copped last year. Lou, why don't you kick us off with your plus three and negative three?
00:04:53
Speaker
Oh, geez, mate. I didn't even think about this one. So on the fly, I'll probably go Tristan Cherry. I think 121 as a 580K Rikeman is just absolute smash pick. So got to love that. And the negative three, it's got to go to Connor Buderick. Started him at
00:05:14
Speaker
I think it was 504K, did the maths. If he went 60, I'd be making about 50K off the dot. Once lockout lifted, but yeah, no, he went 25 in some miserable conditions, albeit, but yeah, got to give it to him.
Player Performance Highlights
00:05:33
Speaker
That's trash.
00:05:35
Speaker
Yeah, look, it's a tough one to cop straight up, but you're right. The conditions there absolutely did not suit many of those Gold Coast defenders being a real sort of wet, dewy game. So absolutely should be on the chopping block, but I don't think he's going to go 25 again anytime soon. Hami, what about your plus three, negative three? Geez, I'll probably have to put my negative three. Probably going to have to get my lowest scoring on field player, I suppose, and that was Nick Caulfield with a 44.
00:06:04
Speaker
There's probably a few other options that I could have gone for, but anyway, that was probably down there. My plus three. Who'd you go with, Lou Riley Bonner? Yeah, thanks for rubbing salt in the wound there, mate. Appreciate it. I'd go with Riley Bonner, dude. 102, and he looked bloody good doing it coming out of that back line, so I was impressed with what I saw from him.
00:06:30
Speaker
But while I've got the table here home, see I've had a quick squeeze at the fossils team, Stado. So I could do a quick plus three, minus C for him. He had John Eukin with a 62. I don't reckon he would have been too wrapped with that one. But he captained Big Maxie Gorn, so he would have been pumped with 137 from Gorn as his skipper.
00:06:55
Speaker
Yeah, we've stolen my Thunder there, Hami, because I was going to give my plus three to big Maxi Gorn as my vice captain. So I'll pick another one. It wasn't my highest score on field, but Luke Jackson, I was a little bit nervous about the pick coming up against Big O and admittedly he did get busy late with that goal and then and got a bit of junk, but 96.
00:07:17
Speaker
in a relatively tough matchup, happy for him to be increasing his price a little bit and hopefully with a few nice match-ups to come, he can get his cash-gen going a little bit more so that I can get across once Darcy comes back. So Luke Jackson, my plus three, and then my negative three, I'll give it to the low-hanging fruit, Brody Grundy. Seems there's none of you guys gave him the negative three. Fifty-three from Yurok, not ideal.
00:07:41
Speaker
Uh, we all had to sort of pick him after how we played against Max the week before, but it's going to be an interesting talking point to see whether or not we trade off him now or whether, you know, someone like me that doesn't have Tristan Cherry, uh, we jump across and that's going to lead us into our hot topics, Lou. So I want to pick your brain a little bit here. Talk to me about Brody Grundy.
00:08:01
Speaker
Uh, you don't have a Tristan Cherry. Is it as simple as we need to jump across now knowing that Cherry's price is going north and Grundy's stalled or do we have to wait and see and potentially fix up elsewhere in our teams? What are you thinking? Uh, well, I think, uh, if you are a Grundy and a Gorn owner, uh, yeah, you do need to jump over to Tristan Cherry. We've spoken all pre-season about how these ruckmen should have the highest floor, so they're unlikely to burn you.
00:08:28
Speaker
and Tristan Cherry is starting off with a 121 at 580k. He's already gone up to 622k so made 30k over the weekend. He's got a 34 break even so you'd expect him to probably triple that at least in this upcoming match against Fremantle. He's got Luke Jackson there obviously so he should be a little bit more experienced than him.
00:08:53
Speaker
What a mare by Grundy. Eight touches. That's not really the Grundy that we've known in the past. It was a bit of a tricky night for him. I do wonder how much of a factor the Collingwood-Ruck matchup is playing apart. They do seem to be quite difficult.
00:09:13
Speaker
I feel like Mason Cox really takes the floor out from underneath a ruckman because once he does get into those ruck contests he attended 36 which wasn't far behind Darcy Cameron.
Fantasy Strategy Deep Dive
00:09:25
Speaker
I think that the hit outs immediately are taken away from you and you could see that Grundy was getting quite frustrated with it.
00:09:32
Speaker
Yeah, I think that's a really good point you make in terms of Kieran Briggs didn't have a very good score against Collingwood the week before. So we've got two data points now of this Collingwood matchup being pretty tough. I'll throw it to you, Hami. Do you think it's important to jump off Grundy now or if someone, you know, potentially let's throw my team out there, someone that has an Ollie Wines
00:09:53
Speaker
as Zach Fisher or another player that's kind of stalling in cash there, do you think they're more of a priority to jump off rather than Grundy who he did have a 120 the week before and could turn it around? Depends what options you can see as alternatives for Wines and Fisher, I think, because I guess
00:10:11
Speaker
And with Grundy, we've got another option that's cheaper than him that we've got a fair bit of confidence in. And I think that that's probably slightly different. Can we say the same with Fisher? Billings maybe, but he's got a buyer coming up. Wines, maybe if he didn't have Bonner, that might be an option for you.
00:10:32
Speaker
Yeah, I guess I'm a brody Grundy owner. I have Grundy Angorn and I'm considering Grundy to cherry. I mean, it's not a given as in we'll just see what else I need to do throughout the course of the week, but I'm definitely thinking about it at this point in time.
00:10:52
Speaker
Yeah. And I suppose that's a, that's a good segue into our next point being the buy starting this week. So with Colton and Brisbane being on a buy harmony, you know, is it a play, you know, you talk about going a Fisher down to a Billings or a five type that you're not necessarily confident in?
00:11:07
Speaker
What about if we are knowing that it's best 18 going a fisher down to a Dempsey who has a negative break even and bringing an extra rookie onto the field for best 18 and then maybe having the money to go winds up to one of these big dogs for these ceilings? What do you think about that?
00:11:23
Speaker
that was with Fisher you said didn't you but see you would have been relying on Fisher as one of your 18 scorers I sort of he was using that best 18 tactic with Nick Coffield so although I wasn't really wrapped in his score I'm probably just gonna leave him because there's a good chance his score isn't gonna count anyway so I'm okay with that but yeah Fisher you would have been relying on him scoring look he
00:11:47
Speaker
His roll wasn't too bad. He still scored 68, which is not that far off where he's priced at anyway. So I don't think we necessarily have to trade fissure at this point.
00:12:00
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, that's fair. It's just a name I was throwing up there. Louie, I'm going to throw this one to you. And this is a little bit off the cuff, so you're going to have to think about this a little bit. But now that we've seen round one and we've seen how some of these big dog premiums have come out firing in this sort of best 18 system now.
00:12:18
Speaker
What do you think after looking at round one is the optimal structure in terms of rookies on field? Now that we've seen the likes of Jeremy Sharp go pretty well, Matt Roberts go pretty well. Obviously Colby and Sanders did what they needed to do as well. Do you think that the three rookie midfielders is the way to go and we should be looking to restructure to do that or would you be happy with a bonner and then the two rookies in the midfield? I know it's a bit off the cuff, but I just want a raw answer here.
00:12:44
Speaker
Well, if you've got Bono sitting at M6, I think that's fine. He's been a good pick for you. It does suck that you need to decide between two out of four rookies instead of being able to shore up a thing there. But no, I think though that the three rookie structure probably was the way to go.
00:13:07
Speaker
Probably put Jeremy Schaff and his scoring capabilities on the back burner a little bit but Colby McCursure, Matt Roberts and Riley Sanders proved that they can score 70-75 plus and really jostle with the mid prices there.
00:13:22
Speaker
Jeremy Sharpe's just a bonus on the bench or you know, whichever way that you want to spin things around there But yeah, it seems to me that the the three rookie structure probably was the way to go Maybe you can stretch to four If you've got maybe like a giant you can in your midfield that you weren't too happy with but yeah, it's a bit of a difficult one to answer on the fly there though Homsi and
00:13:49
Speaker
Yeah, I just think it's interesting. Obviously, there's a lot to play out, but the number one team this week was running a house at D6, and I myself was running a Marty Hall at D6 with the intention of having one rookie there for this best 18 system, knowing that potentially those rookies are going to fall off. And I was just wondering, and maybe I'll get your opinion as well, Hami, having seen a Tom Green, a Sorong, a Zach Merritt, these types go absolutely massive.
00:14:19
Speaker
With the rookies we have this year, it seems like they're going to score pretty well in line at times with these mid prices. And is it worth a little bit of a restructure to try and get a few more of these players on field, especially in this best 18 system? What do you think, Hami? Well, let's talk about them then, hey, with the rookies. So, House, 66, we'll be fairly happy with what he's done. McCurcher, Sanders, fine. Roberts, yeah, 68. I suppose he's probably fine on field.
00:14:46
Speaker
Sharp, he looked pretty good, actually. I'm a bit disappointed I don't have him, but anyway. Darcy Wilson, Harley Reid. That might be about it, I reckon. As far as rookies, you'd be happy to play on field. So, look, I've got Bonner in my midfield as my, what's that gonna be, M6. McCurcher, Sanders. So, I'm pretty happy with that.
00:15:13
Speaker
and I won't be changing it. So, yeah, it's really only Coffield, as I said, that I was a bit disappointed with, and I probably have preferred Hall or House, maybe. And I could probably play Darcy Wilson on field, I'd probably be okay with that, but I'm not really gonna dump one of my existing players to bring another rookie on field, I don't think.
00:15:36
Speaker
Yep. Yep. Fair enough. The other thing I think Harley Reid actually looked pretty good to start that matchup as well. And it was a tough matchup in port. I think he'll be better for the run as he goes on. So in this best 18 system, at least you have a little bit more confidence fielding him when you might lose a Sexton or a Flanders or, or one of those players. So yeah, all good discussion points.
Listener Q&A
00:15:56
Speaker
What we're going to do for this podcast, knowing that it's only round one and we still don't have heaps of data to go through, we've thrown it out on Twitter and we've got plenty of questions to get through. So that's what we're going to do. We're going to go into in depth with a lot of these questions. So the first one I'm going to throw to you, Louis, we've got from the Diddley Docker, who would you bring in? You've got Jordan Clark or Matt Crouch. So Jordan Clark, 97, didn't have any kick ins, but Freo played really well and controlled the ball in the back line there. So there was a lot of ball going around.
00:16:24
Speaker
And Matt Crouch 113 off the back of being heavily in the midfield 73% time on ground. The game was tailor made for him with those conditions, but looked fantastic as we'd been speaking about all preseason. So who would you bring in personally out of those two?
00:16:41
Speaker
Well, with these two, I've probably got them both hovering somewhere between 90 and 95 in terms of a seasonal average. You're right, Matt Crouch, that game was absolutely built for him. It was wet, it was sticky, it was a high stoppage game and he just thrived within it. I actually think had Wines had that exact same matchup, we'd probably be thinking similar of him as well potentially.
00:17:09
Speaker
But yeah, Matt Crouch did Matt Crouch things. And what was really positive there was that he had 68% CBAs. So only Jordan Dawson exceeded that. That's a little bit in line with what we said during the preseason that they're not moving the Rolls Royce in Dawson. Crouch can't play anywhere else. It's probably going to be the rest of the midfield that rotate through.
00:17:29
Speaker
So tick with him and then Jordan Clark on Probably gonna favor this one just because he's got that defender status. I think they're gonna average around the same anyway So I've got a higher waiting with that
00:17:42
Speaker
defense status. He looked good too. He was patrolling that half back line and got involved with a little bit of junk late, which we love to see from those kinds of players. He's a little bit cheaper too, which I think when we're talking about small margins coming out of round one, that can always be something that tips the favor within your ledger
00:18:03
Speaker
The final point there was potentially he could be a keeper or at least someone that you run through to those mid-season buyers if he can keep up that output. Whereas a Matt Crouch, you're probably looking to get up to somebody else within the next sort of seven or eight weeks provided he continues that output.
00:18:21
Speaker
The one thing I will flag with Jordan Clark, and I don't necessarily think this is going to happen, but it needs to be a bit of a watch at selection. Freo had two of their defenders go down, so Warner got knocked out.
00:18:36
Speaker
We had Oscar Mack do his knee and then Brennan Cox who plays defence but was playing forward on the weekends also go down with the Hammy and Hayden Young did shift back late. Now clearly that might've just been an in-game rotation to get them through, but you need to watch at selections to see who they bring in and potentially Hayden Young does go back there, which would potentially limit Clark's output a little bit. So just a small flag there to watch at selection. Hammy, this one's from Mr. Surag.
00:19:02
Speaker
Which two would you fix first out of Grundy, Wines, Newcomb or Mackenzie? Grundy, Wines, Newcomb, Mackenzie. Mackenzie. Yeah, what did he skip? Early 40s. 41, yeah. I don't mind him as a player, but I was always 50-50 about
00:19:21
Speaker
what role he was going to have in the Hawthorne team. And then it doesn't seem to have kind of found his spot. I thought it was going to be the wing and I was going to settle on him there, but then they threw him around again. I think that he may be the one that I have most concern over.
00:19:36
Speaker
But I've got Wines and I have got Grundy. I don't have Newcomb. I think, look, Newcomb didn't have a good game. I think that he's still the number one midfielder at Hawthorn. If you think that they've got a bit more upside than what they showed, he's probably potentially worth sticking with. But all three, yeah, all three of them are concerning. But I think I'm most inclined at this point to move Grundy on out of those guys.
00:20:08
Speaker
Yep, I'd agree there, but I'd be looking to move on Mackenzie as well. There's one thing we know about these mid prices is that you need them to get off to a hot start and make some cash early and that 41 is going to be sitting in his price for the next four weeks, making it pretty tough to jump. And the roll, although it was there, I think he looked a bit slow and a little bit out of it, Lew.
00:20:28
Speaker
I actually think Grundy's a low priority trade. He came in priced at 76. He's a smidge over that now. I can't see Brody Grundy averaging less than 90 personally. I think he's a much better player than that. So while it is, you know, pretty flattening that he pumped out that 53 and it's definitely something to flag as a concern of perhaps something to come. But I think when you've got a value rock like that,
00:20:58
Speaker
that is going to be outperforming his price, even though it's not going to be the accelerated level of cash generation we were expecting. I think he's one that you can tuck away and leave on field to just slowly chip away at it. That's provided that you don't just have Grundy gone and you can go down to a cherry.
00:21:21
Speaker
Beautiful. Lou, I'll stay with you. This one's from Spoilers FC. Says that he has most of the rookies you'd want. It's more of a strategy chat. So at this point in the season and given its best 18, do you think the priority is to chase the rookies you've missed, i.e. like a Jeremy Sharp to really get that cash gen going or upgrade
Player Analysis: Crouch & Clark
00:21:39
Speaker
a mid-pricer to a gun mid for a scoring bump? What are you thinking here?
00:21:44
Speaker
Yeah, this is one I've been tossing up quite a bit actually, and I think it carries a lot of weight this whole ceiling scenario where if you've got your best 18, you've probably got 15 really solid players that you'd be banking to be within that. And then with the quality of rookies that we've got, they're all sort of jostling for position through those spots 15, 16, 17, 18 anyway.
00:22:09
Speaker
There's a sort of theory where if you go, okay, well, I've got a, let's say, Matt Crouch from earlier, maybe Ollie Wines is a better example. All right, no worries. I'm going to find the cash and I'm going to take Ollie Wines who might average 85 to 90 up to a man on everyone's lips, Caleb Sorong, who might go 110. I think that does carry a bit of weight. I think your top end might really dictate the best 18 over the next couple of weeks.
00:22:39
Speaker
That being said, cash generation we know is super important and it's almost more important than ever with so many coaches being switched onto it. We are only best 18 for four weeks. It's a 24-week season. I think I'm probably favoring to just playing the straight bat and generating that cash as quickly as I can at the beginning of the season when those rookies are presenting themselves.
00:23:10
Speaker
quite often we can sort of run out of them as the season goes on and you've got to find more creative ways to generate that cash. So I'm in the camp where you're still going for that cash generation over the ceiling. But if you can find a nice balance, then you're on to a winner there.
00:23:29
Speaker
Yeah, don't mind that at all, Luke. This next one from Volcrum, I'm going to answer this one. So who to trade Zach Reid to? So he's listed Dean, Ulland, Pink, Horan, Coffield.
00:23:40
Speaker
I'm probably in the camp of not trading Zach Reid at the moment. I know he's just done a hammy so he's going to be out for a couple of weeks but I feel like it's a bit of a wasted trade here. There's no real options that are really standing out and you could trade into a guy that might put up a 20 or a 30 anyway and you're not really going to get any cash or scoring. So at the moment, as bad as it sounds, I think you just hold off on that and try and bolster your squad elsewhere until
00:24:06
Speaker
You're really guaranteed that whoever you're going to trade Zach Reed to is going to be a scorer and going to make some money. Otherwise, I think you've you've wasted a trade there like Marty Hall. Yes, he got 62, but it was a nervous 62. He kind of junked it up late in the last quarter and he played more of a lockdown role that potentially I thought he was going to have. And Nick Coffield only scored 44 in a big dog's loss. He might not even be best 22. I might find his way out of the team next week anyway. So I'm not sure I'd be going there just yet.
00:24:36
Speaker
Hami, this one's from Jay. Howes versus Horon Field this week, knowing that you can't loop between them because they're from the same side. So who would you look to field? That's a tough one. If I had both of them,
00:24:52
Speaker
I'd probably go Whore. That's me, but I don't have Whore. So it's not very easy here. I'll just think that he probably got a better role than what Howes is going to be. But Howes has been scoring all right. So he's who I will be putting on field for Williams this week.
00:25:13
Speaker
Yeah, I'm going to back on that and actually go against Yohami. I actually think House had the better role in that system. It seemed like he had a bit more of a license to run up the ground and get involved in scoring chains, whereas it seemed like Hall was playing a little bit more lockdown at times.
00:25:29
Speaker
How's has gone 77 and 66, which, you know, that's two pretty good games in a row. So I think I'd probably be looking to go house and I do actually have that dilemma this week. So I will think about it more, but that's where I'm leaning at this stage.
Trading Strategies for Underperformers
00:25:45
Speaker
Yeah, I was just going to say that Salem kept that midfield role, which there was a bit of speculation about. In fact, he was the leading CBA getter for the Ds. And I think that basically Howes was shuffled up a position in terms of how they want to give him the ball. And I think Hall really did come in to pretty much replace Jake Bowie there. So, yeah, for me also backing that scoring history, it's probably Howes too.
00:26:12
Speaker
Yeah, I was just going to say, Holmes, just in the back of my mind, it is that I think Hoare averaged like 107 in the VFL last year and Howes was quite a bit below that is in the 80s. So that was just what I was thinking. Yeah, yeah, I just don't think Hoare has that same role that he had in the in the VFL. I think he's just locking down a bit more at the moment, which is what the team needs. But yeah, that's just where my head's at.
00:26:38
Speaker
the moment. Louis, I'm not sure if you have him or not, but Nick Caufield, hold off forward. Would you be going off him if you have nothing else to do this week? Oh, if you've got nothing else to do, I think potentially, yeah, you can fold on Nick Caufield, but like we said, it is best 18 this week. So potentially he's one that you can leave on that back burner. You picked him to generate cash. No, it didn't work out in round one, but it's a player who missed what, 750 days of football or something like that.
00:27:08
Speaker
before returning so first game back it's often said that players really struggle in round one it's a bit of a shock to the system I'd probably lean towards seeing how he goes in round two he's got the Suns at Mars Stadium that might be an interesting one but round three I really like him with West Coast at Marvel Stadium so that could be the one to get you off on your way
00:27:34
Speaker
Yeah, don't mind that at all. Lewin is in my team and I'm not looking to trade him this week. I think I've got other priorities that I need to need to do. All right. Hami, this one's from Mossimo. Who are the priority trade-ins this week? So you don't have to give us heaps, but who are some of the players that are looking to be more of the priority to get in? Jeez.
00:27:55
Speaker
Well, I'll tell you what, it's a bit hard because I've written down a few names, but I kind of discounted people that are in my team already. All right. Some people that I have written down, Jack Billings, I don't think he would have been highly owned because of how coming out of the sub in the first round, and he's come out and smashed it. I reckon his ownership percentage would be low and he's still pretty good price.
00:28:18
Speaker
He's probably somebody that's worth having a look at. Marty Hall, we spoke about. Dempsey, it is he had a good game and I can't see him being knocked out of the Cats 22 for a while. So good four line option and he may not have a high ownership either.
00:28:35
Speaker
well, Terry was spoke to before. Massimo, do you see a thumping score? Maybe there was a bit of revenge game in that with the bombers, him exiting the bombers last year, but he had a really good game and he's still under 500,000. So a couple of these are these mid-price guys that should get a good bump that we spoke to. But I'll throw one to you, Holmesy and Lou.
00:29:03
Speaker
One that I'm uncertain about, probably the one error that I made in my team, is not bringing in Isaac Haney. That's probably the one regret that I have from my setup. So you see somebody you could legitimately bring in at this point, knowing that he's got a buy in round five or six coming out, I think it's five. So he's got a buy coming up, but he's got that midfield role. I guess I sort of thought he'd regress back to the 80 scoring he normally has. Let me reckon about him.
00:29:32
Speaker
I think you do personally. I think in these first two games coming up against Melbourne, very good side, and then beating the reigning premiers at home, I think Isaac Heaney has drastically outperformed what even Sydney thought he would do in the midfield. And I think they would be stupid to have Taylor Adams come back in
00:29:56
Speaker
and just take his role and send him back forward. He's been absolutely unbelievable in that role and offers them so much. And no, I don't think it's too late. In fact, I think you actually need to go there. He's been unreal. And if he does revert back, you are going to get some good price rises from him before he does that. And maybe you can get off him at his buy, but I think you take the punt and you just jump on because, yeah, I'd love to hear Louis' thoughts, but I think he's almost a must have at this point.
00:30:24
Speaker
Yeah, probably the opposite really. He's gone up nearly 100k now, so he's priced at 90. Obviously, we could pick him for 80 at the start, so you've missed that big jump. He's got a break even of 51. You'd think you'd smash that out of the park versus
00:30:42
Speaker
uh, the premiership favorites, the bombers, uh, big history against them as well. I think he's, I think that's one of his best teams to score against. That's interesting. But I think, uh, you've got the by there as well, which is worth considering when you're trading into him.
00:31:01
Speaker
If it's, if you think, jeez, this guy's outscoring every single week, if it's a whole points on field type thing, I think, yeah, you probably do strongly look at it. But in terms of a cash generation play now, I think it's sort of time is running out type thing. Maybe this is the last week you can do it, but you could also look elsewhere and get something that's sort of comparable to. So yeah, I think with trading into Isaac Heaney, you need to be seriously cautious that you're probably losing
00:31:31
Speaker
90 points within that just based on the buy alone.
Cash Generation & Rookie Trading
00:31:36
Speaker
Just one more thing I'll finish on Essendon this week, then Richmond at the MCG and then the Eagles in Adelaide for gather round. So in terms of match ups, it doesn't get much better. So I'll leave, I'll leave us on that.
00:31:51
Speaker
Alright, Louis, back to you, Jimmy Wilkin. If he has Grundy and Cherry, is Gorn a must-have to trade out Grundy? So a lot of coaches are thinking to go Grundy down to Cherry, but can you go Grundy up to Gorn?
00:32:06
Speaker
Yeah, I think you can. Certainly, if you don't have many captain options or VC options that you're keen on, Max Gorn is perfect for that. He's a guy which we've spoken about all season, just has that frightening ceiling and he showed it on the weekend with the 140-odd that he scored. Yeah, Grundy to Gorn, you've still got a buy-around player there anyway. That seems fine to me. In fact, you've probably got a nicer buy given that it's not that round five where coaches are really stacked up.
00:32:36
Speaker
Yeah, I'd tick off Cranny to Gorn in a heartbeat, really. Yeah. Armie, your thoughts? Oh, look, Max Gorn is really good. I wouldn't have any concerns bringing him in, but it depends if Cranny is your biggest issue in your team for that coach. So I'm not sure whether it's going to be, but anyway, that's a nice upgrade, but you're spending a bit of cash to do that as well.
00:33:00
Speaker
That's the tricky part, isn't it? He's prioritizing those trades because I think even the best coaches had three, four, five issues in their side they'd like to address, but it is a long season and you've sort of got to get your ducks in a row, don't you?
00:33:16
Speaker
Yeah. And let's just be clear on the order. If there's obvious rookies, you're going to make bulk cash and you missed them. The rookies are the first ones that you need to look at trading in. Then you got your mid prices. Those mid prices are really going to pop and make a lot of money. That will be your second point of call, which you could probably put Grundy in and then you worry about those premiums that have underperformed for you. But yeah, the rookies are the priority just at the minute. So as I said, I'm feeling all right about that other than sharp.
00:33:45
Speaker
It means I would have to get rid of like Jai Clark in order to get Sharp, so I'm probably not going to worry about it. I'll stay with you then, Hami, for this one. So this coach has the option. He needs to trade in Sharp or Dempsey. So if you need a pick between those two, which one would you be going? As a forward or a mid? Sharp or is it utility? Plus, I suppose he's got DPP to utility, yeah. Is that a Dempsey score?
00:34:15
Speaker
The break even of negative 10. Yeah, so Dempsey now price at 300 as a forward only and then sharp now price at 319.
00:34:32
Speaker
Yeah, jeez, Dempsey was good though. Just on Dempsey, before you go, Hami, it's kind of been lost as well that he scored a 70-odd in that preseason game as well. So that's two scores now from Dempsey that are looking pretty good. Minus 10 break even. Looking good in that Geelong system. He played that same game that he did in the preseason. He scored a 75 and he was one that was right down to the line. I wish I picked that one, unfortunately, but
00:34:59
Speaker
He's high up on that wing, almost helping the defenders before pushing back seriously hard and then providing a threat up forward as well. He's a younger, better Gary Rowan, which maybe is not the best fantasy comparison, but when you're paying 300K for a player at minus 10, I think there's some job security there too. There's a couple of players there I think might be a little bit behind him, even if Gary Rowan does return. So, I think Dempsey is a smash play.
00:35:29
Speaker
I just had a quick look there, Holmsey. Dempsey is 4% owned and Sharp is 28% owned. The only reason that Sharp was called into that starting lineup was when Jager Amirah got withdrawn. So, I mean, he played pretty well, but there's a chance that he's not best 22. I think Dempsey is not a bad option there between the two, if it suits the structure of what you got as being a forward only. So, yeah, maybe here's the go.
00:35:57
Speaker
Yep. I like both of them, but I also think Harvey, although there were three defenders with three of Freo's best 22 going down on the weekend, I think Sharp's job security will be pretty good for a while yet. Um, I think they'll probably shuffle the magnets around, um, match up to at Marvel. That's pretty juicy. We saw what GWS did.
00:36:16
Speaker
Yep. So maybe you look to bring both in, but I'm a fan of both and I think I'll be looking to target Dempsey this week as well. For you to go here, Lou, this one's from Connor. Is Wines to Martin two sideways? No, I don't think it is. Wines is, he's a super interesting one actually. And that was, even though it was a great matchup in terms of fantasy points, it's a terrible matchup for inside mids.
00:36:46
Speaker
because there's so much outside bowl. It's not something that a bloke like wines needs to get that involved with, but I also think with wines that having that taller defensive lineup, they're no longer, it's almost like they've effectively got an extra two men coming off that back square and into stoppage in Kane Farrell, Ryan Burton, and also Dan Houston, of course. So I think that's gonna really affect how the midfield really share it.
00:37:16
Speaker
Butters, you've got Rosie, you've got Jason Horn-Francis, you've got Houston and Burton and Farrell coming off the back of the square and just doesn't leave a lot of points for a bloke like Wines. He did get plenty of touches, but he did it all at the coal face, which sort of something we've been saying all pre-season, which we listened to our own advice, but he did have the role in the pre-season. He didn't actually have it during the season proper. So he was at 46% CBAs, which was behind
00:37:46
Speaker
uh rosie horn frances and butters who was a little bit underdone so that's a bit of a concern uh it was super hot in Adelaide i don't know if that's really an excuse but uh on the flip side nick martin had the role that we wanted he took kick-ins he ran around doing exactly what he
00:38:05
Speaker
what he liked and Essendon looked to give it to him at every opportunity they could. I thought 93 was probably a little bit underwhelming but I think if that can sort of be not a flaw but if that's down the lower end of things then it's going to be a total smash play that one.
00:38:25
Speaker
Army, you want to throw in your insights there? Yeah, I'll just, well, I'll give you my insights, which is slightly different. A little bit annoyed with Ken Hinkley, Lou, about lying to us, saying that Wines was the number one inside me, but then we look at the CBAs and he wasn't the number one inside me. But I've had a quick squeeze and the two of you and Stado have all got Wines and Martin. And I didn't start with Martin. I was a little bit worried at half time, but
00:38:54
Speaker
I'm just gonna continue to fade him I think at this point in time. So while I have the option of going once to Martin, I'm not gonna prioritize that as a trade. Yep, that's fair enough. I think if you started Martin, he's done nothing wrong. We wanted him to go 95 plus and he's gone 93 to start. So it's not the worst thing, but potentially I'm not sure I'd be looking to get on him just yet.
Maximizing Best 18 Scores
00:39:22
Speaker
And once to Martin, you've got bigger priorities, I'd probably try and get up further. I was just going to say Martin actually has, um, Sydney, as we mentioned before at the SCG, which might be an interesting one. Yep. If we, uh, if we go on with that, the, uh, the podcast will be about two hours long. Sacking, sacking. All right.
00:39:50
Speaker
Two to go. Louis, I'll go to you. So, nipple cripple, blinds to five and then you come to sarong. Is that too reactionary or would you tick that off? No, I think that's probably a little bit what we were talking about off the top of the show in terms of maximising your best 18.
00:40:10
Speaker
Nukem probably didn't put up what coaches were expecting. And even if you do think he can break out, I still think that he can. You really wanted that cash generation to start working for you early and sort of stamp his name on the competition a little bit. So one bloke that did do that was Caleb Sarong. I wouldn't call it reactionary or Roy-actionary.
00:40:35
Speaker
I think it's just being agile and correcting and a slight little restructure on the go, which is what the early rounds are about anyway. Yep. With Wines, you're going down to Nat 5. Yes, he's a forward, but you're going to a player that has a lower break even and actually did have the role compared to Wines that didn't. So I actually, I'm going to tick that off. And then Sarong looked as good as any mid in the comp with that score.
00:41:03
Speaker
I say it every year, I need to get better at, uh, so these players, they come out of the gate and I just think, no, they, they're going to get away from me. They'll, they'll come back to the pack eventually and I'll try and get them then, but they just keep going and going and going. And with watching Sarong on the weekend, there's every chance he's the M1 this year. Um, it might be reactionary. It might not, but he 46 touches, six marks, seven tackles at absolute all round game against the reigning premiers. And
00:41:27
Speaker
With Brayshore going out onto the wing a little bit more, it's just opened up for Sorong just to absolutely be the main guy in there. So I'm all aboard Caleb Sorong, if you can get up there, knowing that his price is just going to get away from us if we don't jump now. Last one, Hami, before we wrap up, this one's from Matthew Krinas. Is Billings a trap? I'm keen for your thoughts here because
00:41:50
Speaker
His price still isn't going to get away from us this week, knowing that he had a 10 in his score the week before. He would have gone up a little bit in cash if you've got that there, but it wouldn't have been huge. Is it a case of jumping now if we have to, knowing that he's got a buy coming up or do you think we can wait another week? Well, I think it's still quite a good trading option. He's got a break even of 31 from what I can see. So I scored 140, didn't he? He's already scored.
00:42:16
Speaker
140. Yeah, 15 marks. And off the show. That was huge. And like he would float down to the back line, they would kick in and he'd find a bit of space and they'd kick it into and get a mark, turn around and kick. So I don't know. He was used in a good role. I don't know what the hell was going on with that round once. But I can't see him being a sub again after that performance. So I think he's probably a solid trading option. I'd love to scroll back through Twitter and see
00:42:44
Speaker
All the tweets of, uh, uh, round zero saved coaches from picking Jack Billings. I'd like to, and I'm not going to do it now because I'm editing it, but I'd love to go back to our pre-season podcast, Louie, where Hami told me that he was going to play VFL and just absolutely shadow me. Got that apology for me, Hami.
00:43:02
Speaker
It's easy to be an interesting podcast if we just agreed on everything that you said, Aimsie, wouldn't it? Yeah, very, very true. All right, boys, that wraps up the questions for today. I think the listeners have got a lot to take away, but once again on the cuff here, Lou, I'm going to throw to you what's one bit of advice or what are you thinking about leading into round two?
00:43:25
Speaker
Uh, you want to write the ship. We all make mistakes within our starting squad. So, uh, it's about identifying those prioritizing them as we spoke about earlier and, and then executing them, which unfortunately is the hardest part of that. But, uh, I wouldn't be, um, throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I'd be thinking of this game as, you know, the 24 rounds that it is. Uh, so I don't get to.
00:43:52
Speaker
cut up or upset if you're a little bit behind the pack early it does really come down to a couple of players that pop and and a bit of rookie roulette so don't go chasing ranks like a madman getting points on your field and then
00:44:07
Speaker
Finding yourself with a low team value come, you know, mid-season, I think you still need to play the fundamentals of the game, which is generate cash as quickly as you can and jump onto players that are not only under price, but are about to sort of break out into that area where you're paying a fair price or even maybe more than what they're worth.
Trading Fundamentals & Conclusion
00:44:30
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely agree there, Lou. We can't spend all preseason talking about how it's a trading game and then throw the baby out with the bathwater after a pretty average round one. It's all about how we trade from here. As long as you've got pretty strong foundations in your team, you just chip away with those picks that weren't quite as good and you trade your way to a good team. So just keep building that cash, Jen, and back yourself in harmony. What are your closing thoughts?
00:44:54
Speaker
Well, everybody's just continuing to look for those plans that they feel are under price based on their current value. I mean, and we spoke to earlier, being the rookies, being the first ones that you'd be looking to correct. And then mid prices, I mean, what do we got? An example being Royal Marshall, he scored 118, great score, but he still priced at that. So he's actually not going to make any money if you're looking to jump on him at this point of the season. So yeah, chase the value.
00:45:24
Speaker
Yeah, just correct those ones that you've obviously made a bit of a blue on if it's kind of budderick or somebody equivalent to that.
00:45:33
Speaker
Yep. Couldn't agree more, mate. All right. So that's it, guys. Make sure you follow us at Pod Pod AFL on X. Please make sure you leave a rating and review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And one more reminder, join the Pod Pod Challenge. Last year it was so we could all beat Dossy, but don't worry. We are all beating Dossy at the moment and I'm sure that will continue. The lead code is N63ANCEP.
00:46:03
Speaker
One more time, that's N63ANCEP. Good luck to everyone, this coming round. Oop, Hami's got one more thing he wants to mention. Did he join? What have we got? Have we got a score update for Dossi?
00:46:19
Speaker
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