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The Cold & Flu Lie: Why You’re Not ‘Catching’ Anything
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Cold and flu season arrives every year like clockwork…
But what if nothing is being “caught”?
In this powerful and eye-opening episode, Jacob Díaz (@undercovervirologist) returns to break down exactly what’s happening when people get sick in the fall and winter — without relying on germs, contagion myths, or virology fiction.
Together we explore:
• Why people get “sick” when temperatures drop
• Humidity, sunlight, grounding, and electrical changes
• EMFs, environmental stress, and the real meaning of “influenza”
• Why contagion studies FAIL
• Suppression vs. expression — why symptoms are healing
• Why some people in a house/class get sick and others don’t
• The emotional terrain and victim consciousness
• Childhood sickness, vaccination, and homotoxicology
• Homeopathy, isopathy, and natural ways to support cleansing
• Chiropractic vs. osteopathy and understanding the body’s structure
• How to actually support detoxification, drainage & inflammation
• How to return to nature, simplicity, and true sovereignty
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Interview with Jacob Diaz: Virology and Terrain Theory
00:01:21
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you. For more attuned one-on-one attention, do not hesitate to reach out email me or click the link down below but without further ado let's dive into today's episode mr jacob diaz the undercover virologist my good friend you're back for another one that's got to be number four at this point yeah we just keep having bomb episodes so i mean we just gotta keep having you back all right my favorite one of my favorite um podcasts for sure with you always because we're in the same boat too both young guys learning so
00:01:53
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Love this pod. We're talking about stuff, getting into the roots of everything. So hopefully this is a fire episode as well. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. will be. um Yeah, we've been talking a lot too. We do that terrain wellness club ah in a couple of our communities there in the, in the, the Academy beyond terrain Academy, of course. And Alex Academy, I know you have a,
00:02:15
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you have access to that link as well. if people want more, right. Of, of this, go check that out. Cause you can get lot of fun calls too. and You'll get tired of us. Yeah. But those have been, those have been really fun too. But here we are, here we are for the beyond terrain podcast, which is, uh, almost at a hundred episodes been going pretty well. So really, really happy, really grateful that you're here. Um, there's been, uh,
00:02:40
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There's been a couple of bugs going around lately. couple germs I've heard. you know a lot of people getting sick from one another. What are your thoughts on that? actually saw the other day a germ jumped from one person to another.
00:02:53
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he had like a knife. He went behind the lady. Mugged her, dude. yeah Wow. wow Got to get them out of my country. i was ki ah is it's ah It's flu-like season. It's cold-like season. you know It happens literally like clockwork.
00:03:10
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every single fall and winter, essentially. I mean, we live in the same area of the world. So when it gets cold, people get sick. That's what happens. And this is not something to, you know, sneeze at in terms of literally not something to sneeze at in terms of germ theory, where we're like, you know, we're going to use the people getting sick as the effect as proof that germs exist
Debunking Germ Theory: Environmental Influences on Health
00:03:33
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and cause disease. That's that's not what we're doing here. So before i even go into it, you know, me and you know, people that listening may know that detoxification comes in many different ways. You know, you can have a fever, you can have sneezing, vomiting, diarrhea, whatever. But in philosophy and principle and terrain based philosophy, that is your body releasing the trash that is accumulated over time. And part of that releasing can definitely be enacted or exacerbated by changing environmental factors. a lessening in humidity, which is usually what you see in fall and winter, yeah um a drop from warm to cold. Obviously, that's going to affect the body. The nervous system is going to affect the respiratory system.
00:04:11
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And one of the easiest ways to understand cold specifically was explained to me by Dr. Kaufman, where he said, that you can think of it as like an AC filter change. You know, you have to change your filter in your AC periodically, same thing with your car, because if you don't, all the garbage is going to accumulate and things won't not be able to filter properly.
00:04:30
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So when the body innately knows, I have to repair my respiratory system to prepare for the colder months, um to prepare for different elementals in the air because the trees are no longer there to absorb them, less sunlight, more ah less humidity, all these things.
00:04:46
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I'm going to have to excrete all the mucus that's been there, all the trash that has not gone out. And that's that's your cold or flu. And then depending on how healthy you are, if you're really healthy, you may just have a couple of sniffles, maybe a little congestion. You're good. But if you are really not good health, you're eating garbage, you've got your vaccine, your your flu vaccine, you might get two week, three week bout of flu like symptoms. But in actuality, it's the same disease at different severities.
00:05:16
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I've seen people with very mild ah fevers that have cold symptoms, you know, just a little cough, maybe some congestion, some throat congestion, whatever. But I see people with flus. a massive fever, body aches, chills, sneezing, the same congestion. So just looking at it at the baseline, these are very similar symptomatologies. And depending on the livelihood of this specific patient, you're going to see different symptoms proliferate.
00:05:42
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That's nothing to worry about because your body's doing exactly what it needs to do. And if you go more to the root, I mean, I've mentioned this in passing, but um the invisible rainbow where he was able, Arthur Fursterberg was able to link certain non-native EMFs to the changing frequencies in areas where people will get flu-like symptoms.
00:06:00
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So how much is that, you know, influence, the influence of other and energies, influenza, it's in the name. So could there be something there where the lessening of solar radiation from the sun, you know, we're not getting as much sunlight, it's more cloudy, you um more EMF bombardment, something along those lines where you get more influenced by these non-native EMS and you get sick.
00:06:21
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you know, we look at the symptoms of electromagnetic wave toxicity or EMF toxicity, it looks eerily similar to colds, flus, you know, supposed at COVID, you know, the connection with COVID with 5G. There was a connection there with people getting sick and 5G.
00:06:39
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So it's of my belief that obviously there is not a germ passing from one person to another. Because we can't find the virus, obviously, like that. we we We're going to beat a dead horse with this hammer. No virus has ever been shown to exist.
00:06:52
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Bacteria, fungus, they exist, but they're not the cause of issues. You know, the old contagion studies with the with the Spanish flu and Rosenau, rather, And many, many thousands of literally other studies have shown the same exact stuff.
00:07:06
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So in order to get to the root as to what's what's really the cause of these issues, we have to remove the previous hypothesis that have been falsified. And a lot of time people have that. It's a hard time for them because they think that.
00:07:22
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ah falsification requires replacement. It doesn't. If you falsify something, you you're not required to provide another explanation. It's me it's me and you's job, other people's job in the terrain space to really find what's being that this cause, but to think that, oh yeah, viruses don't exist, but okay, they must exist because I got a flu.
00:07:40
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That's not how it works. That's not logical. that's That's very fallacious in reason. We have to truly understand how the body works, how the body adapts, and it's intelligent. if you If you do need to go through this process, you will.
00:07:51
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No amount of remedies is going to stop your body from releasing all this stuff if it feels like it needs to, and that's okay. Just support that process, and you'll get better. you know and in and In most cases, when little kids... get cold or flu-like symptoms, if you nip it in the bud quick with some herbals or some sauna work, some body work, just giving some nutrition, chicken soup, really nutrient-dense stuff, raw milk, they'll get better.
00:08:18
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But if you are in in instantly giving them ibuprofen or fever medications, cough syrup, flu... so medications, they're going to get worse. I've seen it firsthand. They get worse. You've suppressed, suppressed, suppressed. And now the fever jumps up to a dangerous level. They're getting body pains, hallucinations, all these things. And now you go to the hospital and then then now they put you on a ventilator and then you're you're really cooked at that point from from the hospital standpoint. They can easily hurt you or kill you.
00:08:45
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So it's just it's the way we we see this disease process as an act of health. an intelligent reaction to the environmental changes.
Natural Healing and Detoxification
00:08:53
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The Chinese knew this in TCM, different weathers will lead to different pathologies. There is damp heat.
00:08:59
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There's damp cold. There's dry heat. All of these things, exposure to cold air, all of these things can lead to different pathologies. And that is just your body responding, adapting. Because if it didn't adapt, we would be dead.
00:09:12
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Adaptation is the number one power that all humans have. We can change to environments very quickly and symptoms are a part of that process. I don't know why now we're so scared of these things when it's, it's a good thing really when you're going through them.
00:09:27
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Yeah. Well, but, and there's so much gold and, in what you just said there, you know, and I think that you alluded to so many amazing things. The electrical side of things. So interesting. Arthur Furstenberg, the invisible rainbow, influenza being a totally different thing before, what was it? 1889. That's when they started introducing, you know, ah electricity, like in the cities, they had wires starting to run. And in 1889, that's the first year that you had the yearly flu.
00:09:58
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Yep.
00:10:01
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discussed as being like more plague-like like it would come in so you know they still thought it was kind of like a contagious thing but it would come into a city you know half people would die and then it would leave Now, old plagues, obviously, we could dive into this, but we'll save that. I think we might have alluded to that in other discussions. hey we did. Just mass environmental toxicity, right? That's simply put how you would explain it's not a contagious disease. So we'll leave it at that. It's just mass environmental toxicity. A lot of these you know cities in the past, metal work could get contaminated in the water. You'd have
00:10:35
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high amounts of toxicities, you know, in many different ways, metalwork, smithing, mining, these were all very um common practices too that, that led to contamination and poor water, water practices was contributing to that. And one of the, you mentioned it um before I even forget, one of the very first instances in cases of chronic fatigue syndrome were people that were living along the railroads where they were using these telegraph lines and railroad lines that is then conducting a non-native electrical component that then affects people physically. Literally, there they were having chronic fatigue or what people would call now as fibromyalgia, these weird musculature, fascial-like diseases, all because they were living near these energies.
00:11:19
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So that just shows you how influential all of these powers are to the human body biologically at the very least. Yeah, 100%. What else happens when it gets colder? you know All summer, oh, you know here we go to the beach, we go to the you know yeah go to the park, And you're barefoot and you're grounding a lot and it gets colder. And guess what? Everyone puts their shoes on, they bundle up and, Oh, it can't be cold.
00:11:42
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You know, i continuously go outside barefoot. I try all winter long, you know, even in February, sometimes it'll throw like a 20 degree day every once in a while and it'll be raining and you go outside and you, you ground, you know? So like,
00:11:55
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continuously doing this practice is one way to mitigate the effects of EMF. Like you mentioned, do EMFs ramp up in certain weather conditions? I wouldn't be surprised if there's a connection there, you know, because we know that there are native electromagnetic frequencies that come when storms roll in. And I mean, you think of thunderstorms, right? Lightning, know, this is, these are electrical things, right? So there's likely some sort of coordination with the changing of, you know, the weather. um but But again,
00:12:24
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we can still mitigate this. Like we have power here. Keep going outside, keep grounding, you know, run around little barefoot with your dog. Like that my dog barefoot all winter. Why can't we do that? You know what I mean? Like, like all these like animals and that, you know my dog doesn't get a yearly flu, you know? And I mean, he's pretty healthy guy.
00:12:43
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um The other thing is that you mentioned is continuously putting toxins into our body, like getting the flu shot yeah every single year. Like if your dog, always gets his scheduled injections. You know, these are ways that toxicity is continuously getting forcefully introduced in the body. Obviously there's toxicity everywhere, but then you wonder like, Oh, well why would I need a you know, a ah yearly detox?
00:13:06
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It's like, we're one poisoning ourselves intentionally and it's happening um involuntarily as well. You know, so these are some of the things, right? And then you mentioned suppression, which is another thing, you know, when you suppress, maybe you you get the flu in the in the fall, and then you get it at Christmas, and then you get it at March break, and then you get it at, you know, the start of spring, and then one maybe in the summer, and then all of a sudden it's, you know, and you continuously keep getting the flu over and over again.
00:13:34
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But then the question you should ask yourself is, well, did you ever let it manifest? Did you ever let the flu run its course? you know, because I'd be really curious what would happen in the fall if you just let it, you just suffered for like two or three days or, you know, you might even even be a little bit less if you take the right, you know, natural preparations.
00:13:53
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But what would happen if you let your body manifest and get the stuff out? Because they're all excretionatory symptoms or inflammatory symptoms, which are both healing.
00:14:04
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You know, excretion is detoxification. Inflammation is like Healing that place you get more blood you get more nutrients you get more so-called immune cells you get more back more everything at the site and your body heals itself through inflammation and it excretes right so you know, I would be really curious to know that's like one thing you can ask yourself like, Oh, well I got sick three times last winter. Well, it's like, did you suppress it every single time? Did you have a hot bath? Did you support your symptoms? Did you do like a steam, you know, to try and help, you know, maybe the mucus get along, you know, and these are all questions that we have to ask ourselves, you know, because, know,
00:14:43
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there There is, you know, and and you can see it in nature, the leaves on the trees, they fall. You can see that there is something with the changing cycles of nature, the adaptation,
Refuting Contagion and Emphasizing Environmental Factors
00:14:54
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right? So it's important that we consider that, you know, but then continuously, like the leaves don't fall off the tree 10 times. But We also don't suppress the symptom of the tree. Like we don't inject the tree to like with something that keeps its leaves on. Like, you know, these are the questions that we have to ask ourselves when it's getting back to nature, right? These are the things that we have to ask ourselves. So anything you to add to that there? No, I completely agree. I use that example all the time when people like, look at the trees, look at the beauty and its adaptation. It gives us The last snapshot of beauty and then they die and all those leaves fall and it provides nutrients to the grass, on the soil rather.
00:15:35
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It's part of the beautiful process of adaptation. So if the trees adapt, if the ducks that you see or the geese rather, the geese fly in ah in a migration form and they go to a warmer place, they adapt.
00:15:45
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Why wouldn't the humans adapt the same way? We have to because we're not ducks. We're not going to migrate. We're not geese. We're not going to fly out. We're going to stay in our homes and do what we have to do because this is where we live.
00:15:55
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So, of course, we're going to have to adapt like the trees because like the trees, we're not moving really. We're staying in the same area. So it's like it's it's really logical and easy to understand when you when you just look at how nature works around you, how everything has to change in the same exact time period.
00:16:11
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Why would humans be any different? Exactly. Exactly. I hope that you guys are enjoying the episode so far. Don't forget to leave that like, comment, rating, or review. Make sure to subscribe and follow the show as well. And if you really love what we do, I'm telling you that Beyond Terrain Academy is the place you wanna be. It is the last stop. No more gurus, no more trends, no more hype.
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00:17:29
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to get achievable long-term results. But let's get back to the episode. So one big question that I always get asked is, okay, so if it's not a germ, what is it?
00:17:40
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You know, if it's not contagious, what is it, right? And, you know, the first point that I like to make is that for as many cases of perceived contagion that we see, we see just as many, if not more cases of contagion not happening.
00:17:58
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Like only one person in the house got sick. Three other people didn't get sick, even though they were all in the same house. 30% of the class got sick. 70% did it. Right. And it's like,
00:18:09
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you know It's like we focus all we always focus on the negative. We focus on kind of what we want to see. and This is theory-ladenness. You focus on the yellow car and all of a sudden you see yellow cars.
00:18:20
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so it's like what What are you going to choose to focus on? and That's why you have a scientific method. I'm really curious, Jacob, how do you answer this question? If it's not germs, if it's not contagion, what is it? and Again, we might be speculating here a little bit. Every case is a little bit different.
The Role of Bioelectric Energy in Health
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But at the end of the day, like it's good to at least have something that maybe we can we can think about rather than it being this contagion narrative, which has been completely falsified by thousands of... of Yeah. So that's actually the very first thing that when when I get DMs and comments, the very first thing I tell them is, just so you're aware, there are thousands of failed contagion studies published in the literature that have falsified this belief regarding contagious disease. Many of which, like I say thousands but kind of liberally, there's a lot more.
00:19:08
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I mean, when you read um what what's ah Can You Catch a Cold by ah that Diane Reuters, in that book alone, there's thousands of studies. each Some of them, I think there was one in the common cold unit of the nineteen forty s at In 1989, up to that point, over 20,000 people had been experimented on regarding cold flu-like symptoms.
00:19:32
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And there was a baseline that this is not contagious. It was that long, like almost five decades worth of research done in modern age, and they couldn't do it. So when I tell when i when i mention this to people, I say it very, very respectfully.
00:19:45
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The idea that I need to provide another explanation of contagion when it's already been falsified, that's a huge issue with your argument right then and there. Secondarily, regarding contagion, I always mention this to people. like If I poison a pond and a bunch of fish get sick, was that a virus or was that a new toxin?
00:20:03
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Obviously, everyone would say it's a new toxin. but So I say, okay, so what's different between us being fish and the pond being our environment? There's going to be a stressor. And that stressor can be literally anything. It could be a vaccine booster everyone got.
00:20:16
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It can be eating some bad golden corral if you went. It could be you um drinking a garbage water that had some sort of runoff from ah ah ah a factory that was or three miles away.
00:20:31
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It could be cold weather. less sunlight, it could be whatever. But every single person in that pond will react similarly because of the same environmental exposure.
00:20:42
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And then when you couple in the energetic component, which I love talking about because it's, and no one really talks about a lot of it in the science behind it, but we know energy is everything.
00:20:55
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We are bioelectric beings. The earth is a bioelectric being. The sun and the moon charge the earth. The lightning provides its positive charge from the atmosphere into the ground to become negative charge. That's why grounding is so good.
00:21:08
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Homeopathy is energetic. The acupuncture is energetic. The bio well is energetic. The the Aveda Austin's work with the holograms in the water and the holograms in the blood with the Biggleson's.
00:21:19
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That's energetic. Like we we energy has always been around us. It literally is what makes us who we are. So why wouldn't energy also play a role in potentially communicating to another person?
00:21:32
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This is what we have to do. I'm resonating in this type of frequency because there's this stressor. You seem to have the same exact stressor. So we're going to do it together.
00:21:43
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I wouldn't doubt that there's some sort of correlation there. That said, with the contagion studies, it's kind of hard to believe it because, again, they they did that. They shook hands. They spit on each other and nothing ever happened.
00:21:54
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But and you mentioned it, too, like. the vast but majority the vast majority of people they did The vast majority of people kind of forget that um a large majority of people yeah get sick do not get sick when other people get sick.
00:22:09
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it's It's kind of funny because they'll only point to, in my house, two of the four people around me got sick. Okay, but what about the other two? Oh, well, I didn't think of that. Okay. What about the literally hundreds of people in your workspace that you share with every single day?
00:22:26
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Maybe 20 of them got sick. What about the the other 80? Can you explain that? If contagion was real, literally everybody would be sick at the same exact time. not and That's not an exaggerated statement. That has to be what happens. It doesn't happen. never happens.
00:22:40
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And I told you offline, I've recently been treating a lot of my friends and family Each one of them having cold flu-like symptoms. My wife specifically, she's had a cold for a while. She's from Haiti, a hot human climate.
00:22:51
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So every time it gets cold, she doesn't do well. Her body has to adapt. So I've been treating her. I've been treating my friends, my my my brother, my my father, and I have not gotten sick. I've been treating them consistently, really,
00:23:04
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different patients for almost a month and a half. I've been around sick people. I'm fine because I take i take care of myself. Liev does the same thing. I ground, I go out in the sun, I eat well, and I don't get sick because your body doesn't need to release this stuff if you're already at a baseline of homeostasis.
00:23:22
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So that's what I think it is. It's a component of common exposure, potentially some energetic frequencies that are resonating off of each other. It's not contagion because, again, if you want to push the contagion narrative, you have to show the virus and you have to show adequate contagion studies that follow a scientific method.
00:23:39
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It doesn't exist. none of it None of it does. So we got to just leave that contagion idea and back in 2019 because that's when we really started questioning it. And it's just it's ridiculous at this point because, again, I see people all time. Oh, my God, my my son is sick.
00:23:52
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What about your husband and your two daughters? Oh, they're fine. Okay. So what does that mean? It means it's not contagious. We focus on the result that, you know, one, we've been indoctrinated with the familiarity of, oh, it must be this. It must be contagious. It must be a germ.
00:24:09
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This also perpetuates this kind of victim consciousness where it's not my fault, not my responsibility. You know, so I don't have to take care of myself. I just need to, you know, not be around sick people. But still, that doesn't cut it, you know, because I hear so many people say, oh, you know what?
00:24:24
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I don't know how I
Supporting Natural Healing Processes
00:24:25
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got sick. I wasn't, I haven't been around anyone recently. Exactly. That's actually probably not good for you, right? Not being around people, we're social beings, you know, so we probably should have that, that interaction with people. And, um you know, again, like, I think it it underscores this, this idea too, of like, like, like you mentioned, and I think this is a huge comp component because you mentioned we're electric, right? We're electric beings. There's no doubt about it.
00:24:53
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You could be the most modern scientist in the entire world. You know, the thing about biologists is they ignore that chemistry is the foundation of biology and physics is the foundation of chemistry. So like at the end of the day, like even in the modern framework, some of these systems fall short, but even in the most materialistic framework, we're literally all energy.
00:25:14
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So I don't know how that's a deniable thing. um we're We're made up of extremely subtle energies as well. Yeah. The world the world is is all very, very subtle. And when you introduce more intense frequencies, and that's what we talk about with non-native electromagnetic frequencies, some of these things are a little bit more intense. They're not in the same frequency.
00:25:37
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they're not in the same They're not in the same level as natural frequency. So they're foreign. Our bodies don't know how to what to do. It's like confusing, right? It's confusing. So You know, but this this concept of grounding is like we ground all summer and then we stop.
00:25:54
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That's like one thing why i really think the changing of the season is one of the biggest things, right? Because it's like even like it's like that fish example. you have the fish in the pond and then you, you know, inject the pond with a bunch of toxicity or inject each fish, right? It's like obviously that's a part of it.
00:26:12
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But then there's a bunch of fish that, you know, didn't get it. And then maybe some of them still get sick. But what if we took all of these fish and we put them in a fish tank for the winter? You know, we took away their grounding. We took away the whole of nature. We took away that. that essence of nature, that energy of nature. And we put them inside and we blasted them with led lights after the sun went down and we did all of these things, right? So like, these are sort of the hidden sources of toxicity that, you know, a lot of us overlook as well. It's like, well, I'm so healthy. Why did I get sick?
00:26:42
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I eat right. I eat, you know, I do the right things. This is the thing that I consistently hear over and over and over again. It's like, no, but I, I am healthy. So why did I get sick? But it's like, okay, did you stop going outside? Well, yeah, cause it's cold.
00:26:55
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Okay. So we're overlooking yeah huge things. Go ahead. And and you and you mentioned the the grounding. Grounding literally is a protective or protective mechanism for non-AVMFs. So yeah not doing that will obviously make you more susceptible. What else do people do when it gets cold? Again, they stay out they stay inside. You mentioned that they bundle up. they go do They do not go out in the sun.
00:27:16
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They don't go out in the moonlight either. they probably are buying food because it's cold. So they're going to get some pizza. They're going to have some Thanksgiving dinner, Christmas dinner, New Year's dinner, all the holiday stuff, more candy, more sweets.
00:27:31
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Usually people gain weight during the winter time because they're eating more than they should. They're not going outside. They're not going out in the gym because, again, it's cold. they not working out at home because they're lazy. So again, it's like all of these factors that Pete and they, of course, going to their boosters. So of course you're going sick.
00:27:47
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And I've always asked myself to like, of course, there's there and the environmental stuff and the the lifestyle stuff. But how much is really is it that you go get your flu shot? And that is it just that's just a boatload of toxicity right there. Then you get sick.
00:28:00
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I see it all the time. People, I just got my flu shot. I'm feeling really sick. And they call out next week because have the flu. like, yeah, you just inject yourself with like mercury and formaldehydes and aluminum and cell culture stuff. And course you're going to get sick. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, I've had a little bit of experience in of the medical side of the world, medical clinics, et cetera.
00:28:21
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It's interesting, you know, the questions that even they'll ask you, you hear people ask, you know, oh, is this one of the vaccines that, you know, will make me sick? I've heard those questions like directly.
00:28:32
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but was this the one that causes symptoms? Is this the one that, you know, I'm going to feel sick after? Is this the one I need to call and work for? It's like, actually, they're all like that. They're all like that.
00:28:43
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You know, but I think, you know, like, like you mentioned, it's like having a clean slate, going in with that clean slate makes a world of difference, first and foremost, right? So like stopping the toxicity.
00:28:56
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It's like childhood illness. You know, we had a little girl here, you know, about almost eight weeks ago. And it's like if her life starts off with nothing but a bunch of injections, her we're going to have to catch up, right? it's gonna We're going to be playing catch up and there's going to be rashes and there's going to be all of these excruciatory symptoms. The body's going to be trying to get this stuff out, right?
00:29:20
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um And this is just a very small developing child, right? So it's like over time the body catch up. And then what happens? We suppress all the symptoms. We use steroid creams, antibiotic creams. and we just continuously suppress. And then you wonder why we have epidemic of you know chronic health issues and such. Really, this can this can be extrapolated directly to this discussion is you suppress the yearly cold and flu like symptoms every single
Homeopathy and Non-Suppressive Healing
00:29:44
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year. Again, it's suppressing the toxicity. And when you suppress the toxicity, it not only just stays in your system, but it gets more deeply stored, like your body's going to try to protect itself in some capacity. So maybe it puts on more fat to store the toxicity in the fat cells. Maybe it puts it in an organ because it just has to tuck it away. And then you have a structural issue. And then you have an organ issue. And then it's like this is how these things develop. And the body just tries and tries to get it out. And if it's constantly suppressed, eventually it's going to say, well, we're not getting this out.
00:30:15
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How do we minimize the damage? Well, we have to store it in the body. And then we see that biological division. When we think of homotoxicology, we see that the disease is progression, progressing.
00:30:26
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past excretion now it's in like the storage and the impregnation phases it's just it the body's trying to deal with it to minimize the damage Amen. That's exactly where I was going to go about homotoxicology. The more you suppress, the sicker you'll become, the acute becomes chronic. And that's why really the acute symptoms are a good thing because that's your body just doing exactly what it needs to do is draining the garbage. But if you just suppress for the course of your entire life with antihistamines, anti-inflammatories, antifungals, antibacterials, antivirals, whatever,
00:31:00
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You're just pushing everything deeper. And then your strep throat every year now has become, you know, UTIs and your UTIs have now become cancer. And you're like, oh, well, I didn't know those were connected. Everything is connected because the body's one system.
00:31:15
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It's one thing. It can only dump so much. What's what's stored up over here, which would be a lot of blood lymphatics. Of course, if you just suppress up here, It's going to go down. It's going to go down wherever there's room to to store it.
00:31:29
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Because the body, again, you said it, protective mechanism. It knows this stuff isn't good. But since it can't it's it's it's only working with what you give it, it has one choice.
00:31:40
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Either leave it there and allow everything to to decay or push it deeper so that it can protect you for the next time. Which is why the next time you get sick, it's likely going to get worse.
00:31:50
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People usually, if they get their tonsils removed, for instance, that creates surgical scarring and that prevents lymphatic flow to the mouth. So you get a lot of strep throat pneumonia because the body's like, hey, you kind of ruined our ability to get stretched out. So we're going to keep doing the pneumonia.
00:32:04
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You keep taking your drugs. Now your pneumonia has delved deep into your lungs and potentially lung cancer can proliferate after a couple of years because all you've done is create stress to that organ. So it's like all of these things are connected. Every single thing. what What is, you know, potentially ear infections can lead to random disease, like something in your toe. Like it's all of these things are the same thing. Your body only has so many ways to relieve itself of toxicity.
00:32:32
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So and you go to a doctor, they're going to say nothing is connected. Oh, this is separated from this. This has nothing to do with that. That's stupid. we're we're We're all the same. The blood, the fascia, the lymph, everything connects my finger to my hair on my forearm. My forearm to my hair is connected to my butt. like Everything is directly connected.
00:32:53
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So to think we're some closed system, that one thing over here won't affect something down here is ridiculous. I hate it. And to think that we are a closed system is problematic as well.
00:33:07
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You know, because... Our external environment influences our internal environment, right? We are a representation of our external environment. You live in a modern world. You live a modern lifestyle. You live stagnantly. You you know you don't move your body. You don't eat the right food.
00:33:23
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This will become what your inner terrain is, right? So it's a direct it's a direct ah influence, right? or your Your external world influences your internal world. And maybe your internal world influences your external world as well, which is a fun thing to explore. And we're just like the germs. And the microzyma become bacteria and fungus depending on the environment. We're the same thing.
00:33:45
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We will reflect health or not or disease based on the environment we're in. Yeah, 100%. So along the lines of what do we do, right? Like you're well-versed in...
00:34:00
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homeopathics, isopathics, natural remedies, you know, sometimes just letting it run its course is a reasonable option to, you know, that there's nothing wrong with that, right? Sometimes if we want to help our body, this is the importance of going to terrain based practitioner like Jacob, like,
00:34:21
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Maria say like these are the people that we need to like go to when it comes to the use of a homeopathic or a natural preparation because the difference the most important difference is that Jacob and and the people in the terrain field they do not work through suppression right if they're gonna help you with something and and you know if you want to take something like some people like to they like to have something like it feels like they're doing something nothing wrong with that but it needs to be done supporting the body, like allowing the body to progress in the right fashion, like allow the body to continue like to to finish out the process that that's happening. Right. so like if you have a cough and you take cough suppressants, you're not actually helping yourself because the cough stopped.
00:35:14
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Right. But maybe you know, the better way to go about this is Jacob likely has a homeopathic preparation that helps it resolve, like helps gives the energetic pattern for the body to go back to health, right, the right way.
00:35:28
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Or maybe you're using, you know, an herbal steam, and you're allowing that, you know, mucus to move and and liquefying it and creating the conditions that a cough or a fever, you're like mimicking the symptoms, right? You're like allowing like, rather than take a cold shower. If you have a fever, take a hot bath.
00:35:47
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Yeah. Right. And I used to do like, if I was sick with a fever, I'd hop in a cold shower and I could go about my day, but I was suppressing that fever, you know? And then that night I'd be done for it. You know, that was like my way to push through. And maybe that's a better way to push through than taking a Tylenol or ibuprofen or whatever. But you know, now what happens when I, if I ever had flu like symptoms that happened to me like about about a year ago,
00:36:11
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hot baths. I ate nothing but raw animal-based foods. It didn't even last 16 hours. I was totally back to normal, felt phenomenal.
00:36:23
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You know, it's like, like help it along, help the body along rather than suppress it. So Jacob, tell us a little bit about that approach, right? Like rather than suppress, we're supporting. Tell me about that, how it ties into the use of homeopathics. Tell me about why You wouldn't want to go to any homeopathic practitioner because a lot of them are kind of still germ based and still kind of in that suppressive mindset.
00:36:47
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Tell us about that. Absolutely. So use you you hit the nail on the head. It's all about relieving the the symptoms of disease by allowing the body to effectively get stuff out.
00:37:00
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That's what we have to think about when we are treating people with homeopathics, with herbals, with minerals, whatever it is. You are allowing the body to use what you're giving it to boost the process.
00:37:11
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Because in a perfect world, the body does not need help. But since we're inundated with toxicity, there may be times where the body is having a hard time processing something or things are a little too acute or too uncomfortable, where you can give something that aligns with what the body's trying to do and the body will intuitively accept that message and do it more effectively. That's what we have to think of it as. The practitioners that you go to, whether it's homeopathic, whether it's an herbal,
00:37:36
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that will label something that you that they give you as anti-inflammatory, antibacterial. Stay away from them because that energy is going right to you as well. That is the same exact mindset. And it's funny, homeopathy founded by Dr. Samuel Hahnemann had no real, I mean, he was ah a traditional doctor. A lot of homeopathics actually were.
00:37:57
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They were traditional allopathic heroic medicine men. But they left that process because they felt it was so damaging and didn't reflect health well. So the whole principle beyond homeopathy is actually stimulating the body's vital force, which what we talked talked about is energy.
00:38:14
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The energetic imprint of the body needs a boost, needs some support. So you resonate something with the right frequency, the energies will be able to relieve things. So homeopathy at a baseline is all about relieving the body. It's not about suppression. So homeopathic practitioners that push suppression are directly going against what their philosophy is all about.
00:38:38
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The same thing with herb but herbs, herbalists and all these things. Like if they label turmeric as an anti-inflammatory, go home because it's actually pro-inflammatory. When you look at what turmeric does, it is actually a warm, a warming herb.
00:38:53
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It literally stimulates your body to bring in more blood and lymphatics to an area, thereby increasing heat. So claiming that it's an anti-inflammatory as it literally boosts your warmth,
00:39:06
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It's ridiculous. Of course, you can use a turmeric poultice if you get injured, like if you hurt your knee or or your ankle. your Yeah, you can put that over. It's not anti anything. It's boosting what the body is already doing.
00:39:18
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So when you use peppermint, garlic, clove, and you want to claim it's antibacterial, it's not. it's These herbs came from the soil. The soil is literally where many of these germs come from.
00:39:30
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The germs themselves seed themselves in the herbs, creating a microbiome in the herb. So this idea, they're anti-germ, is ridiculous. It's not founded in nature. So like we we talked about it last week with the parasite cleanses.
00:39:45
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What are these herbals doing? They are relieving the body of a lot of trash because a lot of these herbs are the manifestation of nutrition from the soil. So they have a lot of the things the body lacks.
00:39:56
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So going to clean out your lymph, your liver, your kidneys, your gut, and you're going to feel better because it's boosting that process. But you you put all these labels to these herbs, to these homeopathics, you are then bringing in that idea of germ theory, contagious disease, and suppression.
00:40:12
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When all of these modalities, and I and i made a very thorough Flexner Report post, all of these modalities at their base is about helping the body's force heal. It's not about suppression. If you find a practitioner that cta talks about anti this, anti that, they are seeded with the journey of theory mindset, which means their knowledge is extremely limited, very limited.
00:40:37
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So specifically with homeopathy, which is what a lot of what I do, homeopathy and and I learned a lot about it from Lisa Sterback who is a homeopath out in the UK she's amazing reading on some material medica for people that are wondering Homeopathy, arguably, arguably, and that I'm not saying I'm not making a positive claim, is the most well-researched modality in the modern age.
00:41:02
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There is a ridiculous amount of research, peer-reviewed studies in their own way, Materia Medica, that have gone through what homeopathics are, the philosophy, where they come from, the provings, all these things. So essentially what homeopathy is, is if I have...
00:41:20
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Eczema, dermatitis, psoriasis, whatever, something in my skin that my body's having a hard time coming out, whether it's from a liver stagnation, a gut stagnation, whether it's from toxicity on my skin, a lack of nutrition, whatever it is.
00:41:33
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I can take a minute dose of something said to cause those very symptoms. But that minute dose does not contain anything above 12C in homeo and homeopathy, does not contain anything physical left over.
00:41:51
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It's just the energy behind it. If I take, say, a 30C sulfur, which is literally with you sulfur, that that poison that you can put in your skin and get red bumps and pustules, all that thing.
00:42:03
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If I take a diluted dose of 30 centennial sulfur, the energy of that remedy will be accepted by the energy of my body. My body's having a hard time excreting things through the skin.
00:42:16
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This right here excretes things through the skin. Let me use it and boost the body's energy to relieve myself of these symptoms. And the good thing about homeopathy is that since it's stimulating the bottle's the body's vital force, it's working again with in mind that your body is relieving stuff, getting things out.
00:42:35
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The homotoxicology principle of homeopathy is called Herring's Law of Cure. So this was actually around before the idea of homotoxicology, where it's essentially things go from within to without, which is what homotoxicology is. Things will go from inside to outside the body, from the least important organs to the most important, or rather from the most important to the least important organs.
00:42:58
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So things are going to relieve themselves usually from the bottom up. or disease progresses from the top down. So things get deeper and things will come out. So that's what homeopathy is.
00:43:09
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And you do have to find one, a homeopathic practitioner that again, knows this principle and is not seeking to suppress and will not overdose you too. Because if you overdose with homeopathy, that can cause confusions in the energies.
00:43:23
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And potentially, if you're using something like a 6C, let's say.
Isopathics and Antibiotics Origins
00:43:28
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How homeopathy works for people listening is you take one part of a substance, so that could be an herb, that can be a mineral, whatever.
00:43:37
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And then you put it 99 water. You then shake it up and that is called a 1C remedy. You do that, that same thing over and over again, six times, it is now a 6C remedy.
00:43:51
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That 6C remedy still has physical stuff left over. Very tiny, tiny, tiny amount, but still physical stuff left over. So if you dose yourself too much with a 6C, you can actually stimulate a proving, which is literally a reaction to the physical substance in the homeopathic.
00:44:09
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which is partly why i steer clear from the six Cs for the most part. I go to 30 C because that is going forth physical and emotional and doesn't have anything physical left over in the remedy. It's more energetic.
00:44:20
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And what I've seen is it really, really helps, especially with you know acute issues. I've never used homeopathy as of yet for chronic issues yet. I use it for more so, hey, I have some migraine or I have some diarrhea issues. I'll give you one or two doses of a homeopathic and it really does help if it if it resonates at least.
00:44:40
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You have to find a resonation, a good match for the remedy. And then you can also use the herbals. You can you can combine some of these things. I'd give you homeopathic maybe two hours later. Do take some herbs to help stimulate the gut, some psyllium husk, some burtic root. Maybe take a spoonful of raw honey if you have a sore throat. That's fine on top of your pulsatilla 30C.
00:44:59
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But you're working with the body with what it wants to do. You're not suppressing. And I think people do get confused sometimes because they think homeopathy suppresses. It doesn't. It's stimulating the energy of the body itself.
00:45:11
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It's just boosting things. But you have to find one that actually knows what they're doing. So in technicality, my title is naturopath. But in naturopathy, the history of naturopathy, Benedict Lucht and all these people that did hydrotherapy, naturopathy is just an amalgamation of all these different things. they They essentially mix everything in one thing. Homeopathy, herbs, body work, hydrotherapy, sauna work.
00:45:36
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So that's what I kind of do. i'll I'll incorporate literally everything. If I think there's a body worker in your area that can help. go there. If I think you can take a homeopathic thing, do that. Like there's a lot of different options. There's not one size fits all. That's the thing. Some people may work with homeopathy. Some people don't work with it. It's like, it's, it's different for every single person.
00:45:53
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Another thing is the mental side of it. Do you believe it's going to work, right? That do you believe the intuitive nature in the herb or the homeopathic will work for you? If you're like, Oh my God, this is not going to work. This stupid. This is quackery.
00:46:06
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I mean, you're already stopping all that energy from going into you. But I've also seen it too, where people think it's not going to work and they get better the next day. and they're like whoa, that is insane. Because the energy is always stronger. The body is always stronger than what your mind is. So at the end of the day, if it's going to work, it's going to work. um Another thing I use is isopathics. You did mention that.
00:46:26
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Isopathics are... They're under the umbrella of homeopathy because they are diluted substances. But the ones I have worked with, they only go up to around 4 to 6x, meaning there is still a lot of physical things left over in the remedy.
00:46:42
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Isopathics are just isolated germ forms, bacterial forms, fungal forms, mold forms. And isopathics are really predicated on the pleomorphic cycle.
00:46:55
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where as we we all know, as your germs change, they may reflect the terrain. So if the terrain is diseased and reflects a specific germ, you will then take a couple of drops of that specific germ to help stimulate the pleomorphism to finish a job more adequately.
00:47:12
Speaker
A healthy person does not need this, and does does does not need this support, but a lot of times people are just simply unhealthy. So to give people an idea of how this works, my brother, He had lymphedema maybe, I'd say, six months ago.
00:47:25
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Not a healthy guy. love him death, though. um He had just massive lymphatic stagnation in his left arm. So he went to the hospital. They were they said he had bone sepsis.
00:47:37
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And obviously when the hospital tells you you have sepsis, the antibiotics will come, the poking and prodding will come, and potentially you may even die from the hospital protocols themselves. And I was like, that's not going happen for my brother.
00:47:50
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So I went to the hospital and I looked at my what I had and i saw that one of the isopathics that is indicated for lymphedema is mucor rysmosis, which is a fungal remedy from the mold of mucor.
00:48:03
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So I gave him like three drops orally in the hospital. He was literally being treated by the nurse. And I was like, move. I gave him some stuff in his in his mouth. And I gave him like about six drops on his arm.
00:48:15
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Rubbed him in on the lymphedema. Did that about twice. The very next day, his inflammation had dropped down, I'd say, about 60%. And the nurses were like, they were literally, you can see how confused they were about how the lymphedema had really resolved itself so well.
00:48:33
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And it was simply because I helped the body do what it needed to do. And then I got him a copper brace, you know, put it around your wrist, help with the flow, the electrical flow and all. And he's he's good. He still has his arm to this day and feels perfectly fine. Did not develop any sort of sepsis because that's a massively overdiagnosed um state. of I say diagnosis, really, that people get. I think, what was it? Over almost 50% of sepsis cases are not even sepsis.
00:49:01
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It's funny because they kind of throw that around. I see that lot where, oh my God, what if I get sepsis? I mean, can we actually make sure it's actually sepsis and not something else? um So yeah, I used it with my cat as well, my little kitten when I adopted him. He had some conjunctivitis and I gave him a couple of drops of mucor, which is also indicated for conjunctivitis.
00:49:18
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And lo and behold, His eyes are still here to this day, and it helped him very, very well. I use Aspergillus niger, which is black mold, funny enough. We use that for connective tissue issues.
00:49:31
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Because Gunther Enderlein, he found specific fungal um species were indicated and actually helped the body with specific issues in the muke in them in those circulatory, the lymphatics, the the structure.
00:49:44
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um And it's funny because a lot of these remedies, they're based in supposedly allopathic pathogenic microbes. But that's not what we're doing at all. We're stimulating the pleomorphism and we're giving it the nudge that it needs, which actually proves to me in concept the pleomorphic factor.
00:50:01
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Because if germ theory were true, I would kill somebody with these remedies instantaneously. But that's not what happens at all. We're we're working with the body. So there's so many indications for isopathics. And I've just kind of combined both homeopathy, isopathy, and herbals just to find what will work for some people.
00:50:19
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um Isopathics are also very strong. So again, you have to find someone that knows what they're doing. I would like to think that I know what I'm doing because I've used it with myself, and my family, my clients. But Dr. Mary has been using these for literally like two decades plus.
00:50:33
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The Bigglesons as well have used it for two, three, four decades plus. Bear Lando has used it for decades on end as well. So I'm more of the new school. So finding people that know what they're doing is very important and getting educated from them as well.
00:50:48
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I'm going to plug in if people are interested in working. The Biomed.com, they make homeopathics, but they're based out of Canada. They provide 10 different courses for free.
00:51:00
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of just learning about isopathics, the philosophy behind them and how to use them. If people want to do it, put it in your toolbox. You can use it. And another funny tidbit I forgot to mention is that the antibiotics that were used in the 20s, 30s and 40s, all those things, they're really the 40s really.
00:51:16
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Those were isopathics. They were not antibiotics. That's something that I always tell people because they always say, oh, well, antibiotics save this, that from people, this, that. How are these antibiotics made?
00:51:27
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They were literally made from molds. They were literally made from metabolites and enzymes that were created from different fungal forms. So they took that and they started giving it to people and they were getting healthier and better.
00:51:40
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So the idea that we label the antibiotics that we have now in 2025 as the same ones that we had back in the 1930s and 40s is ridiculous. Because what we have now are synthe synthesized copies.
00:51:53
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We have petrochemical dyes, all those things that are used as antimicrobials when they are actually, by definition, anti-life. But the original penicillin, the original ones that were extracted from these fungal remedies were actually quite helpful because you're using the same exact principle that we are using for isopathics.
00:52:15
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So just to get that into people's heads too. That's really great
Herbal Sourcing and Bodywork Comparison
00:52:20
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addition. Yeah. Amazing, brother. Amazing. You know, one of the things that sticks out to me um when we talk about herbals, like i I've been...
00:52:30
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loving the concept of herbology lately. Like I absolutely love it. I think that we can get caught up again in this kind of more modern framing of it. Like how are we using it now? Is it 30 days of capsules of way more that you would take in a natural quantity?
00:52:47
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You know, like what, what's the difference between like herbs from a supplement store versus wild forage yeah herbs that are picked that are biodynamic, maybe biodynamically grown. but at least have that principle of nature. Once again, like wild forage herbs would be ideal. Biodynamic, permaculture, this is like second best, right? Pretty, pretty frigging close.
00:53:08
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You know, there's a big difference there, you know, because even something like turmeric you mentioned, you know, you you see videos online of people, you know, they're filming like a turmeric farm and people are literally spray painting the turmeric orange, right?
00:53:22
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Like they're, they're like, again, because these are masked farm things, you know, and they're contaminated with heavy metals and other toxicities and literally they've like they've painted turmeric orange that's insane right like that's actually great so the toxicity that comes like this is what's coming in a lot of your supplements so like source matter so like we i cannot freaking say that enough sourcing don't get your amazon turmeric please go if there is an herb store in your area or a supermarket that has turmeric root get that make your own tea make your own pull teas If the supplement company is, again, organic, does third-party testing, and you trust them, and they're getting from good source, then yeah, do that.
00:54:03
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But these a lot of these supplements are really pharmaceutical and in ah in a way. A lot of these herbals are just formulated green allopathy. That's all it is. And that's why they're not as as effective as the natural stuff are. So yeah, usually I'll take like, you know,
00:54:19
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extracts of herbs like like the the liquid extracts themselves that are just extracted from the plant from steam or whatever or i'll take herbs from a garden or herbs from a supermarket and just formulate that you know or if you can find supplements that you trust a good quality oregano oil good quality garlic oil whatever do that but it's much much better to grow your own stuff and then use that as the basis To a degree more, you know, the the thing is, is that as companies grow towards industrialization, that's when industrial contamination comes into play.
00:54:54
Speaker
Right. So like, you know, again, I would just look locally for your local herbologist, you know, I wild forage all these, you know, like I was talking to a guy at a farmer's market.
00:55:05
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He's selling mushrooms, medicinal mushrooms, you know gourmet mushrooms. Wild forages everything himself. And he just sells it until he sells it. This guy is like, you can talk to this guy for hours. you know like Doesn't see the light of day except for the market, but he's just in the woods like...
00:55:20
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No, man. Slinging mushrooms. You know what I mean? probably going live until he's like 120. Yeah, exactly. This guy will live, you know, with with the woods, right? Yeah. um this is This is the difference, right? So, like, again, connect. And, like, we talk about connect with your food and let food be thy medicine.
00:55:36
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There's no doubt about that. But let thy medicine be thy medicine as well. And source that and have a connection to that just as well, right? Like, those are important things that we overlook. It's like, oh, well, my herbs didn't work, you know, but I ordered them all on Amazon and I took incorrect quantities and there was no resonance or, you know, resonance can also be used in a harmful way.
00:55:57
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You know, like if you're like, you wouldn't just go and take a bunch of homeopathics for no reason. Yeah. Right. Like this is going to throw off the resonance of the body. Just like if you, the resonance of, you know, certain frequencies in our realm, like this is going to throw off the balance of the body. Right. So,
00:56:13
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finding that correct resonance, which is why having, you know, someone like Jacob, I mean, would be, that's my go-to if I'm ever homeopathics, like, you know, you need someone that's terrain based because you can, you can use these things with an allopathic mindset.
00:56:29
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And often that mindset and intention is just as important, yeah if not more important than sort of what's being done, right. Use it in the right way. So I love that connection that you made at the end about, uh,
00:56:42
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the old antibiotics versus kind of the modern ones. um That was something that, that confused me for a long time that I never found the answer to. So I'm really glad that you brought that up. You just look it up how they, how they, they were, I but i forgot this guy's name in the twenties that he was like wiping down these plates that had ah like a lot of bacterial buildup.
00:57:02
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And he found that the plates with the fungus didn't have bacterial buildup. So that was the principle behind using fungus as a antimicrobial, which is funny because how can it be an antimicrobial?
00:57:13
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Because it's a fungus. So when you when you look at how they synthesize these these original fungus, it's basically the same what they did with isophanics. they're They're just taking the fungus and feeding it something. It spits it out, essentially. And that you can use that as a medicine. So now, again, 2025, what we have now is not the same thing at all.
00:57:33
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That's why everyone's ah allergic to penicillin. Because that thing is a toxin. Your body does not like it at all. So yeah, there is a clear distinction between what we did back then to now, for sure. Yeah, amazing. Yeah. And this works with the pleomorphic cycle, right? You see fungal stages at the end. And when you see increases in fungal stages, there are less bacterial stages. Just like when you see increases in bacterial stages, there are less microzyma present. Like this is what the original, the original gangsters like, butwa shata you know what I mean? Like that's what they saw, right?
00:58:04
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um So, so that's, that's very interesting. I really glad you brought that up. something that people have been asking me a lot is, uh, osteopathy versus chiropractic, you know, like, because often I'll say it in passing, I'll say, gotta go to an osteopath, just go. And if you're go to a good one, they're going to see you maybe once or twice and then tell you, Nope, I don't want to see again. Um, versus maybe a chiropractor will say, gotta see you every week for the next seven to eight years until I retire on your, your insurance benefits. But, uh, you know, like,
00:58:38
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I think there's there's this misunderstanding of what osteopathy is. So I'd really love for your you to maybe clear up what yeah is osteopathy and like why it can even help the body at all. You know, why it could be, it's like something like that first line of, of you know, it's like one these things that you can really cross the board and it's going to benefit you in some capacity, right? A good osteopath, it's that body work. So tell us about that.
00:59:03
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So um regarding we'll do chiropractic and in know at first. So I told you offline, but chiropractic, if it stayed what it was originally, it would have been great because chiropractors have kind of, they they focus way too much on snapping and cracking rather than getting to the root as to why your structural issues are there.
00:59:26
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Dr. BJ Palmer knew this. He is like one of them. He's the the founder the founder of chiropractic, but he also, also understood germ theory too as a fraud. One of his most famous quotes was, if germ theory were true, nobody would be alive to see it.
00:59:40
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Yet now you see all of these chiropractors at chiropractors freaking wearing masks, getting boosters. And like, bro, do you know what Dr. B.J. Palmer was all about? So I'm not inherently against you know chiropractic work if they are a good chiropractor. There's just not a lot of good chiropractors.
00:59:56
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Um, Dr. ah Esposito, Vincent Esposito. He's great. He's a terrain based chiropractor. Yes. So go to him. If you're in the New York area, go to him. Um, Dr. Lando, he was training. and yeah he was do Yeah. So there is ah logic and good just principles behind allowing the body to relieve tension through deep tissue, myofascial work, and potentially if there's injury, helping the body be pushed back into place.
01:00:24
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Of course, that is good. They do it too much. And you mentioned it. You go into a chiropractor every week or twice a week for six or seven months on end. You're doing a lot of.
01:00:36
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i want I don't want to say that word, but you're like kind of raping the structure of the body in a weird way. where you're just forcing it. Just boom, boom, forcing, forcing. And that is traumatic in its own way to the body.
01:00:48
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It doesn't want to me move that way, which is why those older chiros, they worked a lot with the tissues, with the slight, they would obviously crack and snap. I think there is a benefit to that at times, but not just like gripping your spine and just crunching you in ways. You know those funny videos on TikTok where you're like me at a chiropractor and they just throw you. And it's like, yeah, there may be a place at times that you're really chronically stuck for something like that. Sometimes for me, I'm like, yo, sometimes I just need an old Chinese lady to step on my back as hard as she can. Just jump on it. Because I'm like, sometimes it's got to be snapped.
01:01:25
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But other times you don't need that. Most cases you don't need that. So actually in the recent... um event that we had terrainology we had body workers there both of which were um uh kinesiologists applied kinesiologists and that is actually very similar to osteopathy where instead of cracking and snapping they were doing a lot of stretching they were doing a lot of breath work pressure changes in the musculature and it really really helped so with chiropractic at a baseline yeah you're dealing with spinal and nervous system functions the nervous system controlling a lot of the body And a lot of it primarily is when there is a spinal misalignment, disease will follow.
01:02:06
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And of course, there is there is adequate research to say that, and it helps increase nerve flow as well when you do chiropractic sessions. But osteopathy, on the other hand, is really the mother of chiropractic.
01:02:20
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Osteopathy came first before chiropractic, like two decades before. Dr. Andrew Taylor Still. And he saw the structure of the body not only as a solid structure of muscle and bone, but of liquid.
01:02:34
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So they he's he called it the primary respiratory mechanism. And this mechanism is how blood, lymphatics, water, cerebral spinal fluid, how all of that flows within the structure of the body.
01:02:49
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And then when there is an impedance in the structure, that fluid flow will be disrupted. When that is disrupted, there is less lubrication in that side of the body. and the lot of the body Therefore, disease can proliferate.
01:03:02
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So instead of snapping and cracking, usually what a good cranial osteopath will do is they will literally put their hands on your feet or your head or your hands and just hold it there five, 10 minutes at a time.
01:03:17
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And they'll feel the pulsating of the fluid flow. When they feel how that's going, they'll then start to move their hands around your body to find where the stagnation is.
01:03:28
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Where they find the stagnation, then that's when they do their... They'll start deep tissue stuff, potentially snapping or cracking, but most of the time it's not that. They'll do some muscle manipulation, some myofascial stuff. They'll use a percussion, ah a percussion which will literally like press on the muscles.
01:03:46
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They'll push you. They'll just stretch you out. And a lot of it is very easy on the body. It's very um delicate because they don't want to have to force the body to do what it needs to do.
01:03:59
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That's why you'll see a lot of cranial osteopaths work with children, like little kids, babies. Because they have to be very, very light and and with the with the body structure of the baby because it's still developing.
01:04:11
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So in that, I prefer going to a cranial osteopath because they will work with what the body is giving it. And they're going work with the fluid flow. And I'm a huge fan. When I learned about the fluid flow, I became a huge fan because we are water-based, electrical-based beings, really. We are water suits in a weird way. and the And the bones themselves, I think both of these modalities have it right.
01:04:32
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In both osteopathy and chiropractic, they view the bones more so as tissue, as living tissue. Because bones are not stagnant. They move. With the primary respiratory mechanism, they move ever so slightly. They have tubules. They have blood and lymphatic tubules in the bones. The cranium is is four different structures. They pulsate. Everything expands and contracts. In osteopathy, they call the cranium a diaphragm as well. There's like the six diaphragm philosophy. because when you think about it, everything in your body is kind of like a diaphragm. Everything is breathing, contracting, expanding, contracting. There's blood flow everywhere. So everything's slightly moving.
01:05:10
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They're able to feel that. Chiropractic, on the other hand, they know this, but a lot more is just kind of forceful. So in that, find one that's good for you, a cranial osteopath. The only thing is, and that's the caveat about osteopathy, many of them are just medical doctors now.
01:05:27
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they're They don't even do body work. So it's it's, I'm like, why do you call yourself an osteopath at this point? You're just doing medications and vaccines. So there is a ah cool, and and I'll pull up on my website to make sure I'm not butchering the name of this website.
01:05:42
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There is a osteopathic, like and like, not encyclopedia. It's a website that you can find ones that actually do body work. um So it's called, let's see, osteopathy.
01:05:54
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osteoplu The Academy of Osteopathy.org. That's what it's called. So if you go to the Academy of Osteopathy.org, there's a section called find a physician.
01:06:07
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And when you press find a physician, you would input your zip code. So in this case, I'll put in mine for now. um And then under primary sp specialty, actually, just share with you.
01:06:18
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can't share on your screen. Never mind. Can I? That's all right. No, no, not on this. It's fine. It's fine. So I'll just say it. So under primary specialty for anyone listening that's on the website, academyofosteopathy.org, you scroll down until you see osteopathic manipulative medicine, osteopathic cranial manipulative medicine.
01:06:38
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That's what you have to press in order to find a body worker that actually knows what they're doing. So when you press that and then you press search, the ones that do cranial manipulative medicine in your area will pop up.
01:06:50
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Usually, there's about two or three in your immediate area. Sometimes, it's a little far, maybe 40, 50 miles. But as Liev said, if you find a good one, you're only going to go there one to three times.
01:07:03
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After that, your body will like just accept everything and just start working really well. And I'm a huge fan, too, of... doing cranial manipulative medicine once a year, maybe twice a year, because we gain a lot attention over the course of our lives.
01:07:18
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Our modern world is extremely stressful and stress as disease and disease creates stagnation and also injuries too. You know, sleeping wrong and you got hurt, you got hit by a car, sport injury, whatever.
01:07:29
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Go to an osteopath, a good one, find them. And then they'll be able to help manipulate some things. And as an antropath too, If I see someone, for instance, that has chronic stagnation in their liver or in their lungs, first thing, yeah, go to your osteopath.
01:07:42
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We're going to try to open things up. After that, then come the herbals. Then come the homeopathics because that's supporting the body. Like, for instance, if someone came to me like an athlete, oh, man, I have a knee issue. you know, I have this inflammation in my knee. What do I do?
01:07:57
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Go to the osteopath. Maybe do some acupuncture once a week as well. Then we're going to rub some Arnica homeopathic gel. We're going to some, some castor oil on it. We're going to do a lot of hot baths. We're going to some ginger turmeric, and we're going to do some strength training on the knee as well.
01:08:13
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Lo and behold, you'll start to heal a lot faster than getting some anti-inflammatories or a cortisone shot, which is what most of them do. So there's the, there's the, that, those are the main differences between those two.
01:08:24
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For all, uh, my Canadian friends up here, North of the border, uh, osteopaths are not doctors in Canada. They're, for the most part, my from my experience, they adhere more to traditional principles, most of them craniosacral. They're not doctors, which i I find really interesting. When I found that out about the States, I was like, oh, that's kind of weird. It doesn't seem to really resonate with the tradition, right? so No.
01:08:53
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um But that's great. You know, something I've wrapped my head around um was you know, obviously the primitive gold standard, they didn't need osteopathy, right? But Jacob, like you mentioned, the modern world introduces a lot of stress, even something like sitting in a chair too much introduces that stagnation, right? Introduces that in unnatural biomechanic, right? The way that our gait, you know, where feet are flared out, none of us walk or look or have posture like a primitive person. You know, none of us climb every day, run and hunt. Exactly. Those are permatives. They were very active. They didn't have structural issues. And these things do allow the body like in the right, in the right order, allow that bodily movement, the the movement of the cranium, even chewing properly, right? moves your cranial muscles. Right. And so even though a lot of people do like, uh, uh, like jaw training, all these, like, you look, snacks and kids, they all do this stuff.
01:09:51
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Now, if you're ever gonna do that fine whatever i don't think that it's a harmful thing necessarily unless you're too vain about it but you need to go to an osteopath to make sure that your jaw is aligned properly because you can that's how people develop that tmj that's how people develop some of these problems structurally is that their jaw is not aligned you start training it and you're too wrong that will cause some problems right and the jaw i mean that's connected to the way that your shoulders of your structure the jaw is the foundation and that's what osteopaths teach it's keeping your cranial cranial structure steady and up the second there's a misalignment your shoulders your back your everything becomes a line everything so it all starts up here yeah 100 100 the feet influence the head just as much as the head influences the feet uh and you know we don't chew any like we don't chew difficult like uh
01:10:45
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Tough foods anymore. we don't know. We're not like this is what it means when it gets back to nature. Like that's what we mean. It's like a whole perspective here. So osteopathy is one of these good modalities that does adhere to kind of this natural philosophy, right? Not necessarily acting by force.
01:11:01
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Maybe there is a time and a place for the cracking and popping, like you mentioned. But again, it's like if you need it over and over again, then we're in the same discussion as needing a parasite cleanse over and over and over again every couple of months because your symptoms just keep coming back.
01:11:16
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Right. So it's like the same idea of if you need something constantly, if it's a crutch, right, we're not actually escaping from the allopathic system. they We're not escaping from the modern systems.
01:11:28
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You know, so osteopathy is like one of these things where you set the body in the right fashion, things flow correctly, and then the body is allowed to self-correct, right? Like that's the idea behind it.
Resources for Terrain Theory and Personal Transformation
01:11:38
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And maybe chiropractic is necessary if there's more ah deeply stored things, like maybe a cleanse is necessary if there's deeply stored things. But the second you need to cleanse constantly, you're overlooking lifestyle factors, you're overlooking the source of toxicity and deficiency and in your life, you know then we're getting away from what natural healing is truly about. So it's great.
01:12:01
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what do you got What do you got for the listener, Jacob? what do you want to leave him with? Man, just trust your body, guys. Really, it's that simple. And germs don't cause disease. If you guys are interested, of course, we till we already talked about it. But the we're doing the Terrain Wellness Club once a month.
01:12:17
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Any questions you guys have come through, me and Leah have had the link as well. If you guys want to join. um I'll be ah kind of publishing the school thing I've been working on for like almost two years now in sometime in November, maybe late December, depending.
01:12:32
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And that'll be like a course, a terrain based course of everything terrain from virology to the shop to best store, all of these things, vaccines. going cover everything. And if you want to work with me or go to my go to my research or post undercover virologists on Instagram, and then my website is terrainuv.com where we can schedule consultations and actually work together. Whether it's acute issues, chronic issues, or just even emotional issues too. Like a lot of it is emotional too.
01:12:58
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um I'll work with you. So that's that's what I'll leave it at. Right on. Yeah. All the links, of course, will be down below. I'm really looking forward to that course. We've got glimpses of some of the content. done it's ah It's pretty deep. It's pretty comprehensive. What I love about the world today, kind of the upside of, you know, this, the EMFs and the technologies and stuff is that we do get to connect.
01:13:20
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yeah And there's more people that are discussing the terrain than ever in history. And it is moving forward at a rapid pace and it's an unstoppable force because listen, Jacob, like, I don't know about you, but it's really changed my life.
01:13:35
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It's changed my perspective. I don't, fear, I don't fear disease or chronic disease. I know that these things are in my control. I know that I can take control of my health. I know that I can do, um I can implement healthy habits to my life. And obviously, you know, like there, there's always going to be little source of stagnation, there's blockades in the road, and it's not unnatural to seek counsel, right? It's not ah unnatural to seek advice. um You know, this is what's seen in the tribal settings with the elders, with the the people who've been through it, the chiefs, you know, this is the medicine men. I mean, this is what it's all about, community.
01:14:10
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um And, you know I'm just very grateful for this time and to have ah all the listeners and to have met Jacob, obviously, through this and ah really grateful for your time, everything you do. so
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01:14:21
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let's keep pushing. Thank you. Keep pushing.
01:14:24
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01:14:37
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