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Escaping the System: Raising Healthy Families in a Sick World | Dr. Stanton Hom
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Nature = Health
Learn more about the return to nature in the Beyond Terrain Academy.
What if health isn’t something to chase—but our natural state?
In this powerful conversation, I’m joined by Dr. Stanton Hom, prenatal and pediatric chiropractor and founder of Future Generations. Together, we explore what health really is, how to raise children outside of a fear-based system, and why healing is about coherence, faith, and expression—not suppression.
We cover:
• The true definition of health and “normal” function
• How symptoms are wise expressions of the body
• Raising healthy children through faith and curiosity
• Suppression vs. expression: physical and psychological parallels
• Inside-out vs. outside-in health paradigms
• The nervous system as the foundation of vitality
• Faith, flow, and coherence as daily practices
• Generational healing and the future of human health
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Grounded Perspectives on Health with Jerker Stanton
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Jerker Stanton, Hom, thank you so much for coming on podcast today. Hey, thank you for having me, man. This is exciting. Of course it is. Yeah, it's been a long time coming. I'm i'm really looking forward to hearing your perspective. You have a really grounded take that we'll certainly appreciate here. The listeners will will absolutely love. So, know, start us off, I always like to have a little baseline foundation question. It's kind of a big question, but take it any direction that you'd like.
00:01:56
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ah The question is, what is health? You know, how are we defining health? Where do we start with this? You know, what does it look like? What does it feel like? How does it manifest? Really take it in the most meaningful direction that you feel feel'll fit. So what is
Defining Health Beyond Disease
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health?
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Yeah, I would say health is ah normal.
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Which may be like vanilla, like people may not get that right away, but it's like one of those things where health has become so like radically redefined by by the system. And, you know, we could go, even though most of your listeners are probably like, screw the WHO, right? Like the WHO like actually defined it.
00:02:34
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as like an optimal state of physical, mental and social wellbeing, not just, not merely the absence of disease or infirmity, right? And so there's two parts and we're so fixated on the last, right? As long as you don't have symptoms,
00:02:47
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As long as you don't have a diagnosis, as long as you don't have cancer, you're healthy. And it's like, but what about the first half? Right. That was like 1947 that they defined it. They said the optimal state of physical, mental and social well-being.
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And like no one, no one pays attention to that side. Right. And so I would say on a surface level, I would say it's that right. Optimal well-being. Right.
Health as a Foundation for Potential
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And then we could obviously get into like the, like the nitty gritty of that, like, ah like as a, as a pediatric and prenatal and whole family chiropractor that sees multiple generations, I would say through the lens of nervous system, self-regulation, self-healing when optimized, um,
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then we have a foundation for what we would call our health potential that then we can build our true life potential upon. right I would say the true modus operandi of healthcare shouldn't just be, hey, let's feel good. like Let's function good.
00:03:43
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Let's do that so that we can build like the life of our dreams on top of that. I would argue that my parents and my practice... And the people who kind of navigate to find us, they resonate with that message that it isn't just health to be healthy.
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It's health to realize that your whole life is is grounded upon the ability to express an optimal state of well-being. Beautiful.
Identity and Recovery Post-Diagnosis
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Yeah. No, I couldn't agree more, you know, and and i think people get fixated on this health and disease part of it. And rightfully so when people are suffering, you know, um it's the most pressing thing. And when you take a step back, you know, people can get stuck in this mindset. But when you take a step back, and you look, what's the what's the point of wanting to be healthy, right? And it's to be able to live the life that you want to live, right? Like that's that's the whole point, yeah right? Now, so we always talk about this stuckness in diagnosis and the stuckness in in disease, people over identifying with their diagnoses, you know, and and when they heal, it's like, well, what now?
00:04:43
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I'm not a cancer patient anymore. I'm not a, you know, ah autoimmune patient, you know, then it's like, where do you go from here? And you have to take that step back, which is a huge part of, I'm sure you experience quite often in your work.
00:04:56
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Yeah. I would say every single day um we have this phrase in our office.
Chiropractic Miracles and Self-Healing
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That's actually not our phrase. It's a phrase in chiropractic. it's called expect miracles, right? Like it's, it's expect and experience miracles where they happen so often.
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Like these, these medical miracles happen so often in our office that like every day we're like, Let's not take that for granted. Let's not take that for granted that the trajectory of this family was moving in a direction of conventional health, conventional medical systems, pharma driven, pharma sponsored, outside in, germ theory you know only, right? The myop myopia of germ theory.
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and riddled with fear, riddled with uncertainty. And the results we see were a child who's nonverbal um with autism speaks for the first time, says, I love you to their to their sibling for the first time, right? Or we see moms have...
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a tent a trend in their birth experience through the conventional birthing system where it's like, you know what I always have C-sections. I always have C-sections. And it's like, you know, I went and want to but find a provider that's going to help me kind of navigate this next birth.
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And oftentimes it's like, well, they can't find a, they can't find a OB, but they can find a ah midwife. Right. And we help them kind of find their birth team. And then all of a sudden they have what they call is a redemptive birth experience because they've been seed, heard and validated through that process or kids with like, like one of my favorite ones is specifically as it relates to germs and bugs and all these types of things. It's like when kids have recurrent ear infections or they have recurrent strep infections so they're sinanusid or so their their tonsils are always big and we have to just get them cut out.
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It's like, they'll ask me, what's your strep protocol? like, I don't have one. You're like, what do you mean you don't have them What if your kids have strep? It's like, our kids don't have strep.
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You're like, but the disease, right? The disease diagnosis, you would you would say, and I would say, it's like, well, if we were to swab virtually everybody's, you know, kind of microbiome, we would see virtually the cascade of different, you know, microbes and and nanobes that are in the system that are not presenting as a diagnosis. Right. And then we'll see this trend. It's like every two months, every month, we're always going to have this, this immune challenge.
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And then all of a sudden a chiropractor comes along. We start adjusting their, their, their neurospinal system. And then all of a sudden they just don't have those anymore. And it's not because we treat ear infections and it's not because we treat strep or sinusitis or anything like that. It's that when you help the doctor,
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nervous system, self-heal and self-regulate all systems. then your body should just heal things long before they manifest as chronic recurrent infections. And they and healthy people don't have chronic recurrent and you know types of those types of infections.
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So why need a strep protocol if you're actually never going to have kids that are going to navigate that same pattern, right? And so so for us, every day we get to experience that. And then then like you're saying, what do you do with that?
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right? And a mom just came in this morning. Her daughter is three and her daughter has had these like gnarly meltdowns since she was born. She has been emotionally dysregulated since she was born. You go through the health history, you go through the birth history, you go through all these different aspects. They've been to all these different providers, including other chiropractors.
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And this is her second week. And I walk in, I was like, I'm not going to say her name, right? Hi, sweet girl. how are you doing today? And she goes, good. I was like, i know.
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Like, I can tell. i can tell you're doing really good. How was Halloween? It was great. And you're like, and I'm looking at mom. And I was like, who is this kid? And she's like, i don't know who this kid is, right?
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But what this kid has now is a mom that knows who her child actually is. Because sometimes you're oh, they're just... they just have a furrowed brow, right? We have kiddos with RBF, right? Like, you're like, they just have a scowl. That's part of their face. I'm like, no, no. a facial expression of a furrowed brow is a neurophysiological effect of something going on in the system that we should probably see and investigate. And it's like, it's going to go away. And you're like, And you're like, three days later, they don't have a furrowed brow.
00:09:19
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And you're like, It was their personality. was like, o but maybe that furrowed brow also causes dural and fascial tension that actually closes up sinus cavities that actually causes lymphatic stagnation that actually then leads to them being more fussy because multi-systems are starting to be affected.
00:09:39
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And by adjusting their neural spinal system and their cranial vault, that goes away and you start to see the multiple systems then start to regulate and then they don't have... that emotional tendency anymore or that personality anymore.
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Does that make sense? so it's kind
Faith in Self-Healing and Body Wisdom
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of fun. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Kind of what I'm gathering, and I think something that we probably agree with deeply fundamentally is that we're kind of escaping this modern world.
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you know, way of of life in a bit where you don't need to be within the system of disease and, you know, reoccurring sinus infection and stroke. Like, it's kind of a paradigm shift, this this way of thinking, you know, like getting out from,
00:10:24
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you know, what's normal and what's not normal, you know? So we just had ah little girl about nine weeks ago, ah you know, and and obviously like we're still, she thank you, appreciate it. She's still quite young, but even just the little things, you know, like it, to me, it's becoming very clear how I'm starting to see the development of certain diseases and suppression over time, ah little bit eye goop.
00:10:51
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you know, be quick to run to the doc for some antibiotic or steroid cream. And what effect is that going to have rather than having faith that, you know, her body's intelligent and, and you know, she knows exactly, her body knows exactly what to do.
00:11:05
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Yeah. um So, you know, our, our protocol was putting a little breast milk in the eye, you know what i mean? Like rather than kind of some, something more so suppressive. And then you wonder, you know, like down the road, will there be the rations? Will there be the,
00:11:19
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you know, like that's kind of the, what I'm, I'm in the midst of right now, you know? So I'm wondering if you could kind of speak on that, you know, this kind of development of these childhood illnesses, what's, what's this, what's perceived as normal, but maybe, you know, we can kind of understand on a deeper level through yeah this paradigm shift of, of redefining that again, what is health? What is normal? What is the optimal state?
00:11:44
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Well, first off, I would say congrats, man. Nine weeks. and you're you're you're You're in the weeds. Oh, gosh. It's like sleep. My life's amazing. Wait a minute. It's like everybody – like I remember our first – we were just talking about that because like our daughter six now and like yeah i'm I'm a pediatric chiropractor and my wife worked in my office. Like she knows like all this stuff. And then our breastfeeding – not mine, but her breastfeeding journey with our daughter – was crazy. You know, it was just, it was wild because you don't, you, you know, it's an innate thing, but you also know that like, it's a motor function. Like it's a thing that you have to like, it's, it's muscle memory. You learn it over time. And then we met with lactation consultants and they're friends of mine that I collaborated with and co-managed with.
00:12:27
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And, and then they're like, just, just six months from today, your kid's going to be doing like acro nursing, like don't stress out about this, you know? And you're like, great, great, great. And how, how renegative you to put breast milk in your child's eye. Right.
00:12:43
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and and i imagine And in our world, we would say like, man, I think this whole concept of symptoms, right. I think symptoms as good or bad is such a low consciousness perspective, right.
00:12:58
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It's, it's, it's, it's based upon a a premise that's not true. And the premise is that things are random, right? that that that That the body is not just made, um it's not just made to not heal, right?
00:13:15
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That's the perception of conventional medicine and pharma-driven genetics. It's like the body is made not just to not heal you, but actually for your demise. Like your demise at some point is is what they're trying to essentially tell us.
00:13:31
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And because of that, we then get duped by this false dilemma, right? Which the logical fallacy that is this Igoop good or bad? and you're like, phew. freaking a man.
00:13:42
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i don't know. Like I, like it's good because maybe it's coming out. It's bad because the, what if she has like a, like a crazy sinus infection later that I didn't, that I didn't help her navigate with.
00:13:54
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And for us, obviously chiropractors are a little bit more like this, I would say through my lens and our training, which is nervous system focused, vitality and vitalism grounded, meaning the there's a vital force in the system.
00:14:10
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that the body is infinitely intelligent. and intelligent We are self-healing and self-regulating. It's never a question of whether or not that I-goop that your daughter expressed was a wise expression of that intelligence. The question is, what was the wisdom trying to say? And it becomes a little bit more elegant than good or bad.
00:14:35
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And for us, we would say, oh okay, what would it, what, what could it be? Right? It could be like i was sharing before, maybe there's a little bit of tightness in this particular region. It could be, you know, that all sorts of different aspects. If you ask a different question,
00:14:50
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And then you'd think about like that, say, in relationship to like fever, right? Like is fever good or bad, right? you're like, wait a minute, people are that are on the natural side, fever's good. like It's like, well, people on the bad side, like well, fever gets really bad. They get brain damage at 106 or higher. Most people don't know that. They just think you're going to die, right?
00:15:06
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And so we would say it'd be important to think about it more holistically and more grounded and more supposed on what is actually factual in that your wife,
00:15:19
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grew your daughter um from two half cells to 26 billion cells, right? And your wife didn't have to consciously control every process of that.
00:15:33
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And so if we know that your wife's body is magical, right, which is just normal, and your daughter's has to be, has to be also, then we would say, well, then that's interesting because the iGoop,
00:15:48
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could be horrible, right? it could be horrible because there's eye group coming out, right? All these bugs and all these, you know, things that are pretty much going to like, she's going be blind one day, obviously.
00:15:59
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Right. Yeah. No, I'm just joking. And we would say, well, maybe it's a good thing, right? Because, it's better that it's actually coming out of her body and her body's doing something smart and and letting it out versus holding it in.
00:16:14
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Right. And how about we reinforce it in a way that allows for things to drain out more appropriately um rather than suppress whatever symptom that it is, right? An antibiotic or whatever they might do through the supposition that she has some sort of internal infection.
00:16:32
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And maybe the eye group goes away, but maybe it actually drives that far deeper. and she you get peace of mind because the bad thing is gone, but in the not just sometimes long run, but the short run, she has an ear infection, right? and you're like, but you don't connect those two because the the doctor doesn't connect those two. It's like, oh, it's just another thing that's bad that happened. And then you do another round of antibiotics and it's like, wait, oh yeah, you know what?
00:17:00
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She doesn't have that redness in her ears anymore. And it's this thing where you could play whack-a-mole with all the different drugs, which generally with children, it's going to be,
00:17:12
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antibiotics and steroids back and forth over and over. There's not really anything else. Right. And then it's going to be, let's do some sort of surgical procedure, right? Because obviously she needs ear tubes or obviously she needs some sort of like, Oh, her tonsils are really big, right?
00:17:27
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We should probably just cut those out because it's probably causing some sort of congestion instead of wondering why those might be big in the first place. Right. Or maybe why they might be intentionally big based upon different you know aspects of what her system and her microbiome might be needing.
00:17:41
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And so in our world, we would say it's easy to get caught in that low vibrational, very polarized dichotomy of good or bad. But if you start with the premise, which is the correct premise through the lens of the terrain, it's like, well, if the body's infinitely wise, what is the wisdom trying to
Health Resources and Body's Natural Healing
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say? And when you actually ask a new question, you would resource very differently.
00:18:03
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And when you resource differently at nine weeks old, oh, dude, like, the the the The trajectory change between nine-week-old that goes the conventional route and a more terrain-based route is night and day by six months.
00:18:21
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Absolutely night and day. And it's not just immune system. It could be developmental. It could be behavioral. It could be multi-systems. And it's How radical, right? How renegative you to like think that maybe breast milk in the eye might be somehow self-healing and self-regulatory to your system and that the symptom potentially going away is not therapeutic. It's actually not a therapeutic intervention. It's actually likely her microbiome or her system saying we're likely deficient in this and then your wife's breast milk.
00:18:59
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through its infinite wisdom, probably changed, right? Literally, I don't know if you've seen those pictures of breast milk the night before and the night after, right? Like the morning after when the baby has a fever, there is a dramatic change in the actual color and consistency of the breast milk that is real time, perfect food,
00:19:17
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That mom's body is so smart because it could be something she smelled. It could be something that she, um, like her system felt through the chemo receptors in the breast tissue that the transfer of information from baby saliva, it could be thermal receptors and temperature that measured specific insights. It's probably all of them by a resonance that says, Hey mom, this is what's going on with baby.
00:19:46
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Do your thing, man. Do your magic. And then all of a sudden, that breast milk that she expresses in that moment is so real time. And then it fulfills this dysregulation or imbalance that says, oh, wait, she doesn't actually need that, right?
00:20:01
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She doesn't need that symptom anymore. So let's actually regulate that thing. Totally different,
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Interconnectedness of Body Systems
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You know these ideas aren't so far out there either, right? Like, it seems like, oh, there's no way that systems just resonate with each other, you know, whether it be, you know, the chemoreceptors, whether it be electrically through the nervous system. so i mean, you think about, you know, the the intelligence of the feminine, how the cycles sync up.
00:21:43
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do explain that one? Right. It's like these concepts are are not so far off. So I think that's a really amazing explanation. You know, something that comes to mind, you know, is...
00:21:54
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It's suppression versus expression was a thing that came up. And oftentimes you see a beautiful parallel with the psychological world. You know what you don't like. If you don't allow it to express, it will suppress. Right. And it will get stored in the psyche.
00:22:10
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The same. but This is a concept that's generally understood kind of in the psychological world. And when it comes to the physical, we kind of throw that out the window and say, no, noh we need to suppress. so We need to get rid of the symptom. We need to ignore kind of the intelligent process. Yeah. I love that, that analogy, right? Because it's kind of the exact, it's the same process just occurring kind of on the different layers of reality for lack of better terms. Right. So um expression, right. Allowing things to manifest. And I think it comes back to faith, you know, like faith in body, faith that, you know, there is the wisdom, there is the intelligence in, in our systems in nature and the,
00:22:47
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in the greater world too. So I think that's a ah central, a central point too. Yeah. I would say, you know, with just to kind of touch on what you just said, like how, how, how, again, how renegative you to say faith would be important.
Role of Faith and Belief in Health
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right how That faith would somehow be important to the like health expression or disease suppression of the human species. right And I would argue that we might be the only ones right that have that that level of consciousness that could either use faith in one direction or faith in another direction. right And so it's one of those things for me that I feel like it takes me back to that same original like belief system.
00:23:29
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that my, one of my mentors would say like, what do you have? Do you have more faith in like the, the, whatever chemical like cocktail that somebody prescribed to you based upon the latest, um, not research, but the latest like a sales person that came into their office that marketed that particular thing, or do you have faith in the the power that animates the living world? Right? Like I think the latter,
00:24:02
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would maybe be a better bet right than the thing that's in the latest peer-reviewed journal that's you know brought brought and paid for by you know Pfizer and whoever you know the latest bidder is. right And so it's it's important for people to recognize that we we are largely going to be having faith in one direction or the other.
00:24:20
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And how you leverage that is important. arguably one of the most important aspects. People like to think that it's science to follow what the doc, what the real doctor, we're going to do all these air quotes, like real doctor says, and you don't realize that it's bought paid for by, by pharma. And i would go further, the people behind the people, behind the people, behind the industries, behind the systems that are pulling all the puppet strings that don't care about you and your kid. Right? They care about longstanding customers that unfortunately, you know, make more for the system if you're sick versus well.
00:24:55
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Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent. No, that's a, that's great. That's a great point as well. Yeah. These are, these are really important things to, to think about especially in the, you know, when, when you're considering kind of raising, you know, new people because raising little children, it's, it's a paradigm shift in itself.
00:25:16
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there and I'm throwing that word in quite a bit but it is you know because you know I come from you know a life of you know my parents did it phenomenal you know they did they ate like really well and you know but still you get bogged down by the system and you take part in it um and for me you know like I know that I've done a lot of work kind of in my like preparing uh you know not only physically like not only kind of focusing on the health of my terrain but psychologically as well I've done probably more work in that field to be able to kind of break these patterns um so that I can pass on sort of a purity to, you know, allow, um allow, you know, my children to flourish into the individuals that they're meant to become rather than forcing them one way or another or making them suppress certain parts of themselves. That's just going to lead to um greater stagnation psychologically or, or physically as well.
Preparing for Parenthood and Generational Impact
00:26:10
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So, you know, these are some of the things that I've thought about, you know, like,
00:26:13
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whether it was buying our dog, you know, like the way that is a great way to to kind of prepare yourself, especially coming from kind of the more, you know, irresponsible place that I was, I was coming from, you know, 18, 19, 20 was, was a much more irresponsible way. And then moving towards responsibility, that was like a big lessons learned.
00:26:35
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And I'm very grateful for that, but, you know, just understanding how, how do we kind of prepare in that way, right. From the physical, from the psychological, so i think these parallels are extremely strong and we could see them very clearly. Right. So, um,
00:26:51
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And it does, it ties into faith, both that's maybe the bridge. um But, you know, I think that focusing on these two, especially, you know, the the psychological and the physical, how do we prepare? How do we continuously adapt and and continue to become, you know, better versions of ourselves to to reach that full potential? Because it is a lifetime, yeah right? It is a lifetime, as you mentioned.
00:27:11
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I would say, I mean, we're we're we're called future generations, not because it's not a lifetime, it's multiple, right? It's multiple lifetimes and multiple generations forward, right? And so we don't have to get like super far into this, but you know if you look back, say 10 generations, right?
00:27:30
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And that's around ballpark, around the founding of of America, right? And do you know how many people 10 generations back are in your family tree?
00:27:42
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Oh, it's going be. It's essentially like two up there yeah it's like two to the 10th. Right. So it's like, and maybe, yeah maybe, maybe more than that. Anyway, whatever. It's a thousand 24 people, right?
00:27:54
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Yeah. A thousand 24 people had to meet, have some sort of relationship, some sort of intimacy, decide to bring life forward And in that process, every time is a hundred million sperm and then whatever egg, you know, is that month, you know, is the uniqueness of, I think it's one of, i believe 2 million or so eggs that women are born with that they say you don't, they don't, they don't, they don't make more at birth, but that's not actually arguable today.
00:28:22
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And so it's, it's wild to consider the odds, right? The odds of just being you. And what we, i would say what you're saying is something really important because that's another belief system of mine, that it's not just, it's not just today, right? It is, and it should always be today, but because the present time consciousness of you and your wife navigating relationship and community and connection with your daughters You don't don't miss the moment, right?
00:28:53
Speaker
And they say, don't blink. And it's very true because you blink and all of a sudden everything's different, right? And then all of a sudden they're six. And then one of my mentors just, you know, pra he brought his daughter to me at 13 and she was growing 14 centimeter, not millimeter, 14 centimeter sister in her right ovary.
00:29:09
Speaker
basically from the time that she started her menses, right? And she was some days not ambulatory, not walking and you know had exploratory surgery, all sorts of different things. And then you know as a result of like working with us, like she just got married. you know like This is her second anniversary, but I got to go to the, because her husband's in the military, I got to go to her wedding celebration, which was two years after. like and And those types of things are are remarkable, right? And I would say the reason why I'm mentioning this at all is you keep saying physical and and the psychological as if they're different.
00:29:46
Speaker
That's true. They're just not. They're not. They can't be. They can't not be, right? And one of my favorite um teachers slash mentors that somebody I've been following for a long time because he's a chiropractor, but most people don't know that today, is Joe Dispenza, right? Joe Dispenza talks about, right? he talks about the significance of our personal EMFs, like everybody's talking about these these things, these environmental problems that we should be very aware about, but not fixated, not not addicted to, right?
00:30:17
Speaker
But these personal EMFs to through his lens, I think is so powerful is the is the electrical thoughts in our mind and the magnetic feelings of our body.
00:30:29
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that you're talking about this dichotomy psychology and
Thoughts and Feelings as Personal EMFs
00:30:32
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physical, right? like Psychological and the physical when they're actually in dissoluble union, you can't have one without the other. And they actually interplay with each other infinitely to the point where if you send those thoughts, you know, into in your consciousness, but into the, the, the universe, you,
00:30:50
Speaker
And you generate those feelings in your body that you build a personal EMF that no one takes account for today. Right. And we were just talking about that because, you know, we have a really cool um coherence group with Alec and is the coherence collective that what they're doing. It's 30 day challenge on coherence. And there's all these different things that we can do to improve and optimize our coherence. And then every once in a while, we, you Like we're we're on point and every once in a while we're off point, you know? and And it's interesting because today I just, you know, um shared with the group, I was like, you know, this is something that I'm navigating in my mind today, right? Because coherence is so important. There are things that...
00:31:33
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We do our that are black and white. If we take account to our breath and breathe consciously versus not versus hypersympathetic response, you know shallow breathing, chest breathing versus deep diaphragmatic breathing, maybe people take it further and do actually a breathwork practice.
00:31:51
Speaker
Or if we go out in the sun, right? If we go out in the sun and we actually experience nature's infrared, like all these, all these light therapies that we have.
00:32:02
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and And it's night and day. If I go in my office versus out the window, it is a night and day experience, black and white experience to be in connection with the sun. Or if you go outside,
00:32:13
Speaker
ground, right? If you go ground versus not, right? Versus wearing shoes all day versus being, you know, several stories up in a big high rise and you're disconnected from the earth. Like those are black and white, like night and day experiences versus forest bathing, right?
00:32:27
Speaker
Zach Bush says, breathe your biome. I love that, that hashtag back like in early 2020, he was saying that, you know, because people don't take account for if you're in nature that you're actually breathing in and actually imbibing yourself in this ecosystem of infinity that you don't even know about. You don't even know, and you can't possibly quantify what that's worth, but it's black and white if you never touch nature, right?
00:32:53
Speaker
And you will experience the effect of coherence by going into an ecosystem that creates coherence. But there's another side to that that says, like Joe Dispenza is saying, is that coherence is a cause.
00:33:10
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Coherence is very much a choice. It's something that we can create in our own own minds more so than any other, I would say consciously more so than any other species, but not consciously.
00:33:22
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We're probably the worst at it because of our conscious mind. That if you... don't have access to those things, which some people in New York city or people that are downtown LA, LA, like all these, you know, the places that are concrete jungles that are filled with different EMF patterns and 5g and digital ID, like all these things are like, they can in a moment's notice, create coherence from within And we need to recognize that both are so radically important that it is as effective of the choices that we make, but it is a cause that we can choose every single day. And that belief system is psychology.
00:34:06
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It's a belief system, right? It's a belief system for you to think, oh my gosh, like Alec interviewing, which I still haven't interviewed yet. Like did the breath Arian dude, whoever he is, right? He's the guy that can breathe. Like all he has to do is breathe and he can actually transmute all that into his brain.
00:34:21
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biochemical byproducts, right? that That are the building blocks for all the functions in his body. Show me that dude, right? That has no need for a regenerative farmed diet, right? know Like somehow they they have this, right?
00:34:38
Speaker
And if that's true and if that's possible, how powerful actually are we, right? And then what outcome can we actually generate just by being in the cause of.
00:34:50
Speaker
I believe that there's maybe limitations of both, right? Meaning we can do that, but if you're never in nature ever and you never touch those black and white things that actually fulfill a sufficiency, that your modern world has created a ah deficiency in the things like then there's going to be a limitation, right? or the opposite, right? If you're, you know, people say like, what's worse, like a happy donut or a sad salad, right?
Balancing Physical and Psychological Well-being
00:35:21
Speaker
Like if you're in nature and you're doing all these things, but you are incessantly worried about life or your negative thinking or all these different disempowering, limiting beliefs are driving your, your internal workup.
00:35:34
Speaker
There ain't no amount of vitamin D that which is one of multiple like neurohormones that they've had i actually only identified that sunlight actually produces, like you're kind of screwed too, right? So in the end, it's like, it's, it's a healthy responsibility of both.
00:35:52
Speaker
Yeah. that optimizes the outcome, right? But in my opinion, it's not one or the other, it's both. you You can't have the physical without the psychological sustainably, right?
00:36:05
Speaker
And you can't have the the psychological without the physical sustainably. But I would argue, it's it's hard to argue which one I would prefer. But again, I think it's one of those false dilemmas, right? that That it's actually both always and that we have these two different responsibilities. does that make sense?
00:36:23
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Sorry, I don't know if that was the answer you're looking for or if that was like... That's ah you' not perfect. No, absolutely perfect answer. um Yeah, the the you know you can't ignore the outer terrain.
00:36:38
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you can't just focus on the inner terrain. You can't ignore the inner terrain. You can't just focus on the inner terrain. The terrain is everything for a reason. And we have this need to conceptualize things and categorize things right as our conscious minds love to do. But yeah, that's that's beautiful, man. I really love that.
00:36:56
Speaker
I'm kind of curious, like ah so many people that I talk to, that I work with, you know report feeling stuck. You know are we kind of in the realm of discussing that right here where it might be a stuckness ah where we ignore the external or we ignore the internal? You know, I know people can be, you know, psychologically, I know, you know, where you're you're using these terms as if they're not.
00:37:17
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um One, but again, it kind of showcases that if our mindset isn't in the right place, if we're still part of this, maybe a problematic narrative, that it can create physical stuckness as well, because these things are not separate.
00:37:31
Speaker
You know, so is that are we kind of in that realm here? Yeah, source of stuckness. Yeah, i would say i would say that's almost like the the way that I look at at health, right, is you either look at health like through the outside in lens or the inside out lens, right? Health from the outside in lens is what is your diagnosis and what do you need to treat it, right?
00:37:53
Speaker
It's largely going to be a drug or a surgery from conventional medical perspectives. yeah, As long as that disease goes away or as long as you cut it out or as long as your symptoms are gone, then you are healthy, right?
00:38:06
Speaker
And from an inside-out perspective, i think it opens up this this this world that's so dramatically different in a sense that if health comes from within, the question isn't what do I need to do to treat my symptom? The question is is what is what is a healthy, vibrant human doing?
00:38:26
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need and expect from an internal and external, you call it terrain, to express optimal potential, right? And I would argue that it can't not be stuck through an outside lens. You cannot ever get to a cause if you're only treating effects.
00:38:45
Speaker
And if you're never getting to the cause or causes or root causes, then you don't find root solutions. Then through the nervous system, right? Then it's a pattern of physiology, neurophysiology that is in a cycle that is then muscle memory that is then memorized in your consciousness that you can't change that way, right? Through the outside in the treatment of the disease, the the drugging of the problem, the cutting out of whatever it is.
00:39:15
Speaker
And I would argue, and you might also agree with this, that you can do allopathic outside-in care naturally.
Natural versus Conventional Health Approaches
00:39:24
Speaker
right You can. And and you do. You're sharing a lot about this.
00:39:28
Speaker
And I applaud you for like being so renegade about mold and about all these parasites, like these things that are there're they're amplified. like People are building platforms from these different protocols and not saying that they're wrong or bad. We've used some of them for our kids and for for our family.
00:39:44
Speaker
But if you're only going this way. And going outside in, oh, you got a parasite, treat it, gone. And you're only doing it allopathically. You inadvertently are leaving something at the root unresolved because you're not thinking the wisdom of my body that's over here unresolved.
00:40:04
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telling my system to express something, there's a wise transmission of information that if we don't reconcile this over here, then we inadvertently keep that pattern going.
00:40:16
Speaker
And that's the definition. I would say that is the definition of being stuck. So what then leads to that, right? And you're you're saying it very, I think the way that you're actually navigating the the questions here is really, really important. And I hope people are getting this.
00:40:32
Speaker
Is that inside out health is not like the, have you ever heard the concept of be, do, have? it Have you? Yeah. Like, so you i have it okay so so in, in the world of like personal growth in the world of professional development, like I've heard this concept used multiple times. I don't know where I heard it first. Maybe it was like seven habits of highly effective people, which was written by Stephen Covey in like the late seventies, arguably in my opinion, still the best book I've ever read on personal growth.
00:41:04
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But be, do have really, what we would call inside out, right? Outside in is like, man, when I have time, i will then do this health behavior and then I will be happy, right?
00:41:24
Speaker
And an inside out model is is drastically different because you can't actually control the have. You can't control the effect. It's outside of you, right?
00:41:35
Speaker
But you can always control who you are. And we would we call it in our in our in our organization that it's beliefs, actions, results.
00:41:47
Speaker
That who you be and how you believe and what you believe about the world, your worldview leads to the actions that you take on repeat habitually that leads to the outcomes that you have.
00:41:59
Speaker
If you go outside in, you never really get to the B because you're waiting for yourself to have whatever outcome health wise that you're just hoping for. Right. And medicine saying, you know what?
00:42:13
Speaker
Your mom has diabetes. Your grandma has diabetes. Your great grandma. didn't have diabetes, but you have blood sugar dysregulation. Take this metformin. You're like, what?
00:42:29
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. Because it's there,
Generational Health Patterns and Modern Influences
00:42:31
Speaker
right? They don't, they don't go back so many generations where the whole world was regenerative. They don't go back and say, oh what foods came in at what time periods or what environmental triggers led to this blood sugar dysregulation in my family lineage.
00:42:49
Speaker
But people like Weston A. Price have, right? People ah like Weston A. Price who the modern day Weston A. Price, i would highly, highly encourage you to interview Mary Ruddick. I don't know if you've heard of her. Ruddick. She's incredible. You've had her on like she's incredible. yeah She's amazing. And like she goes, you know, Weston Price says, oh, white foods, white sugar, you know, like these things that once they're the modern external environment of these people, you could see even genetically identical twins expressing a different outcome that makes no sense. It makes no sense from a genetic prediive predisposition perspective.
00:43:28
Speaker
And then she makes it more elegant and says it's seed oils and corn. It's like, wow. Wow. Actually those two, right? So it's amazing that we're talking about seed oils on on mass today, right? It's actually happening at a bigger level than ever, you know?
00:43:43
Speaker
But if you don't take account for your beliefs, who you be, how you show up, the state of who you are, then
00:43:57
Speaker
the actions that you take will always have some sort of unsustainability.
Quantum Health and Aligned Beliefs
00:44:02
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I wouldn't say that they won't be effective. I wouldn't say that you would not get healthy.
00:44:07
Speaker
I would say that if you constantly believe in the germ theory and you constantly believe um, um the gene theory, right? Like if you believe in those two, I would say at best, they are incomplete. At worst, they are bold faced, like some of the most destructive lies that the actions that you choose to take without reconciling those will always become unsustainable at some point because people inadvertently will always go back to their belief systems.
00:44:38
Speaker
And so the stuckness isn't just through action, although action, in my opinion, beats fear 100% of the time. One of my mentors would always say that.
00:44:49
Speaker
But action without reconciling the belief systems that are driving those actions, which is why your podcast is so important, like helping people understand that it's not just the terrain, but beyond like the terrain.
00:45:04
Speaker
is a reconciling of your inner workings of your mind as it relates to not just health, because health is one aspect of our relationship with the cosmos, that if you can reconcile those and bring them into alignment with how life works,
00:45:21
Speaker
then the actions that you take, in my opinion, boom, like are exponentially quant, that's people talk about quantum, right? The quantum results, the miraculous results are often not just based upon doing something better or doing something different. It's that you actually cultivate a grounded and radiant belief system that fuels that action that leads to miraculous results. And if you do it that way, what do you create?
Impact of Epigenetics and Parental Decisions
00:45:50
Speaker
If you're not stuck, what's the definition of not stuck? You create patterns and muscle memory and memorize neurophysiological patterns that drive self-healing and self-regulation that you then carry with you, right?
00:46:05
Speaker
Not through the rest of your life, but through your ability, like you and your wife, if you're saying that you guys did all this work before conception, you have no idea.
00:46:17
Speaker
How much you stack the deck in the favor of your daughter, not just in the moment, but for generations to come, right? Because she's born with all the eggs, right? In her ovaries that are like your wife is grandma to the the progeny that are sitting within her that you can't not escape from.
00:46:40
Speaker
It's, it's, it's one of the most, in my opinion, I'm biased, right? Beautiful ways to understand how this whole thing works because in the end, well, what the hell is life about if it doesn't, if you don't think about that, right? It's, I would say maybe again, maybe a bigger answer that you're thinking about, but the definition, like where, where do you want to be stuck?
00:47:02
Speaker
right? you want to be stuck in disease and dysfunction and, and, and, and degenerative conditions and chronic health? Or do you want to be stuck in optimal self-healing, optimal self-regulation, optimal ability to kind of like literally navigate this world today. And then eventually you find, which is something that I'm really inspired by. i didn't know you were a um How many of us are thinking about our kids' dreams?
00:47:33
Speaker
How many of us, could because, you know, like some people are, you know, i'm I'm a West Point grad, like Alec, that's how we're friends, right? And my wife in the early parts of our relationship, because she was, you know, very different back then politically and things like that. and she'd be like, wait, do you think our kid would go to West Point? And I was like, i I'm not one for saying that I don't, I'm not the multi-generational, you have to go to West Point type thing, right? Right.
00:48:00
Speaker
But I would make sure that she, right, at the time was fully aware of the decision that she was making until until West Point put everybody in a tent and force vaccinated them, right? And then I was like, there's no way, no, I'm ever going to let my child go there.
00:48:18
Speaker
So we have to think about this thing that we're doing with our kids, that every aspect that they will have in their external terrain, as you're saying,
00:48:30
Speaker
needs to be audited and reconciled through these belief systems that the people that they meet, that the friends that they will have, the schools that they will be in, that the that the dreams that they will have, the corporations, corporations or whatever, that they will
Living Without Fear and Aligning with Terrain Principles
00:48:47
Speaker
be working for. Because people dream about working for Apple. It's like, well, I don't know about that anymore, you know because this thing has AI in it now. you know like There's all sorts of like different things that we have to necessarily audit. And I would say,
00:49:00
Speaker
no don no no one's really I feel like I'm the only one that's really talking about that right now. And it's something I can't stop thinking about because it takes it so much further.
00:49:13
Speaker
And then you sit back and say, well, how rigid do you want to be? you know like Is it equally dictatorial and authoritative on the side of the terrain? you know It's like, no, actually that's the point also is that you you do all that work to cultivate an external internal terrain that is optimal for your child, you reconcile all those belief systems so innately and so powerfully that it's almost, it builds something that, that Fred Barge, one of the founders ah of chiropractic, if you have not interviewed Ben Tapper, he can quote Fred Barge. It sounds like Fred Barge more than anybody ever heard. One of the pioneers of chiropractic, he would say that's, that's what's called a life without fear.
00:49:59
Speaker
And it's not that you're never afraid. It's just you're not ever riddled or captivated by a level of fear because you've reconciled the internal external terrain and your belief systems and your actions and habits so much that the outcome is is is
00:50:16
Speaker
infinitely wise. doesn't mean you'll never have a symptom. but is infinitely connected to the to the to the wisdom that's around us that then you just sit back and say, well, that's for me, right?
00:50:30
Speaker
People say in the personal growth world, life either happens to you or hat life happens for you. And most of us have to force ourself into believing that life happens for us. But the reality is it's ah it's a consequence of all those things put together that then you can sit back and be like, wow,
00:50:49
Speaker
My kiddo is not just optimal, right? She's not just self-regulating. She's not just self-healing, but I trust, I have a deep sense of trust and faith that what life brings to us is the thing that she is essentially magnetizing to her world and she's meant to be navigating.
00:51:05
Speaker
And I would argue it never, it is almost never chronically ill. that that's That's my supposition, right? But sometimes we also have no idea, right? These epigenetic blueprints are all these different things that we inherently pass on to these bioresonance vibratory forces that are generationally generationally passed on that maybe she, not saying this about you, but she metaphorically to all of our children express something that she's meant to transmute and transform and transcend. And if she does, phew,
00:51:36
Speaker
She, from a health perspective, is that pivot point in our in our family tree that says, ah we're going to remember just how amazing we are.
Empowering Children in Health
00:51:45
Speaker
We're going remember just how wildly vibrant we're supposed to be. We're so we're going to remember and uncover, not seek outside of us and discover, like remember and uncover that brilliance that we have within that we've already forgotten, right?
00:52:00
Speaker
And these kiddos sometimes remind us of all that because they're pretty cute. And they're like astonishing, right? You're like, my son is three.
00:52:11
Speaker
He was told like, this is a whole other story. Like he was told, like ah we were told from him whole conversation about what, you know, and how this transpired that we don't need to get into. we were told because of his eyes and because his, um, he was going pretty, um, flaccid early on.
00:52:30
Speaker
And this is my kid, right? We do everything perfectly, right? And that he would just be disabled for life. Like he wasn't going to walk. He wasn't going to talk. He would just be able to just prepare yourselves. The medical doctor obviously was telling us, medical terrorists.
00:52:44
Speaker
And he's three. And he, I know, like he doesn't count it, right? But the number of things that he can climb and then jump off in a 24-hour period I think he goes for personal records every single day. Like if he goes for PRs every day anyway and he lands it, he goes, whoa, when you like sticks it. Right.
00:53:07
Speaker
And you're like, dude, you, you, you system told us that he was going to be disabled for life and he's three. Right. And we just went to his neuroautometrist and their autometrist is like, oh no, he, he, he's, he, he's a read.
00:53:23
Speaker
Because we don't we don't know. We don't know what he can see. He's got minus nine glasses, but he takes off his glasses. Like i I want him to meet Edith, right? Dr. Edith Mbutu Chan, because I want her to understand what the hell he's doing, because he's got minus nine glasses, which my wife has minus nine.
00:53:39
Speaker
She takes her glasses off. She's like. Where am I? You know, he takes off his glasses. He's like, hold my water bottle, hold my beer. I'm going to go do exactly what I can normally do. Right. And we're like, what the hell is he doing? Like, how can he do that?
00:53:55
Speaker
Right. But you give him, sometimes you throw him a ball and he's like, like he doesn't, he didn't see it. Like there's certain things that were like, what, what we're going to figure out out how to navigate all those other things with him.
00:54:07
Speaker
But I guess the reason why I bring that up, it's like, dude, in that outside, ah outside in system that inadvertently makes you stuck. not just in your body, but in your mind, that they can then dupe you with all sorts of different belief systems because you're going to be foundationally taught that it's outside in.
00:54:29
Speaker
You're going to foundationally be taught that germs cause disease only, right? And they're only pathogenic and they only destroy you just like ah a great great white shark is, right? And they're just waiting to kill you, right?
00:54:41
Speaker
or your genes are programming you, not just to not heal you, but to your eventual demise, to 54% of our children today, we can convince parents that those 54% of the kids with chronic illness are genetically programmed for that,
00:54:58
Speaker
Just because they haven't reconciled this whole system and they can make you believe anything at any moment. Right. And so when I was in my first few years of practice, one of the, one of the kiddos in my practice, she was ah tween, tween girls, like your daughter when she's a tween, mark my words, right?
00:55:15
Speaker
but Oh yeah. It's going to be 10, 11 years from now. They're the canaries in the coal mine, man. They came into my practice when I was in my earlier stages of practice and they were I feel old. i was like, whoa, like you're 11.
00:55:31
Speaker
What do you mean you feel old? And they say it not because they are quantifying their age, but but they feel exhausted. They feel dysregulated. They feel all these things.
00:55:43
Speaker
Boys are like, give me my video game, bro. And give me a monster. And I'm going to, I'm going just going to hack away at life. and I'm not going to be connected to that. Boys are changing too. My son will be one of those, but If a doctor doesn't hear that, right?
00:56:00
Speaker
No, I would say a doctor in the system likely can't hear that. yeah They will never think about reconciling. I'd be like, oh, you're 11. You're not old, right?
00:56:11
Speaker
But if you don't hear the call from the canaries in the coal mine, from those those little ones that are expressing dysfunction, dysregulation, chronic illness, and they're verbalizing what's going on,
00:56:24
Speaker
Well, hell, man, how do we how do we how do we write that ship, right? And I would say for for my greatest blessing since COVID, I don't know your whole story on when you activated and when you came like and built your platforms, but I would say the biggest blessing of COVID is it took that pyramid and flipped it upside down, Alex Zuck and many of you guys that are lay people. I don't know. I don't even know your background,
Post-COVID Health Education Shift
00:56:52
Speaker
right? Like that are lay people that are not doctors, that are not authoritative, that don't wear white coats, that don't put a stethoscope around their neck.
00:56:59
Speaker
You guys were telling more of the truth than we were providers, right? And it was one of those amazing moments where it was like, I was just sitting back and I was like, this is Amazing.
00:57:09
Speaker
This is so amazing because if we can funnel, if I can funnel all of my patient education to these platforms that are not doctors, we're going to truly see what ownership actually is versus the people who are in their white coats with all the letters behind their name. i have a ton of letters behind my name, but letters behind their name because they were the authority and they're no longer.
00:57:31
Speaker
And that's the goal, right? It's because as parents recognize that they are the authority of their own consciousness and their own health, and they gift that to their children, that's the only exit to being stuck. Does that make sense? Absolutely. Cool. Yeah, beautiful.
00:57:48
Speaker
so What I really love about you and and what I try impart to through all of my work is empowerment. And you've not said a disempowering thing. yet and I've never heard something disempowering come out of your mouth, which i appreciate most, I think about you.
00:58:03
Speaker
um and it And it ties into this sort of be, do, have idea, right? Like it gives us the, the, it empowers us to be empowered in and of itself, right? Like when you can choose to be, when you can choose your, the way that you think and and choose which external environment you're going to be in and how you can clean and purify that external environment and connect to source, connect community and loved ones and family and whatever it may be.
00:58:30
Speaker
You know, for me, one of the, one of my antidotes to sort of the have, do, be mindset, ah you know, one, when I have the time, I'll do this and I'll be happy.
00:58:43
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i don't use, I don't have time anymore. I use priority, right? It's not a priority, right? So it's, it's a lot harder to say my health is not a priority. all right, I'll i'll do the the little things that compound and have huge effects, like grounding, like getting out in nature, like connecting with a loved one. So that's been something that um has helped me a lot. You know, you asked beautiful question. You were like, what's the opposite of of stuckness, right? What's the opposite of being stuck or stagnation, right? what's that What's the opposite? What popped into my mind was flow, you know, adaptability, right? Like you think of the stagnant pond.
00:59:22
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Right. Because there's a beaver dam there. And what happens when the beaver dam eventually washes away? Things flow. Right. You know, so that to me just just popped in my mind as. Again, one of these.
00:59:36
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Fundamental empowering mindset shifts that we can have, like the flow of life and adapting through life.
Curiosity in Health Over Judgment
00:59:43
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And I think at the base here, once again, we we have that curiosity piece, like when you're working with with children, especially, and they say, i feel old.
00:59:53
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You approach that without judgment. You approach that with curiosity. Oh, what do you what do you mean by that? You know, it's not, forget about that. You know, you're not suppressing their thoughts, right? Because again, that gets ingrained in the children as well, right? but But you're approaching that with curiosity.
01:00:08
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And yeah that's one thing that I'm learning a lot is that to remain curious is is one of the things that children could teach us. And one of, again, the most empowering things that that we can do, right? Omitting the judgment, you know, it just curiosity.
01:00:23
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I would say, and and and forgive me because I actually have to go soon, but it's... it's Yeah, no problem. it's um I think you're bringing up something really important that Dr. Kelly Brogan taught me. i think it was 2014. I saw her speaking live. She was a completely different human being you know than who she is today.
01:00:41
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But she said that one of our roles, our primary roles as um healthcare providers, isn't necessarily curiosity that we bring. It's the curiosity that we have to inspire. Yeah. Right. Like most of us are riddled with fear. The conventional medical system, whether they believe it or not, whether they know it and or not, they might be nice people. They might be compassionate. They might be really, really, really good at we you what they do.
01:01:01
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But they at some point leverage a a a form of fear that is either very, very conscious or it's very, very subversive and unconscious that I think is so important to reconcile.
01:01:13
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And so if you can help parent parents and if you can help um patients or people in general recognize that it's not complete carte blanche transformation right away, and need to know everything about this thing that we're talking about in terms of flow, in terms of coherence, that sometimes it's just one flip of your perspective from fear to curiosity, which then says, well, what is my body trying to say?
01:01:38
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I think that is one of the first most foundational questions you could ask. I would say the other thing is giving yourself a true, true, true assessment, right? Sometimes I'll just have parents or patients and parents just say, hey, on a scale one to 10, how you guys doing, right? How you eat, how you move, how you think.
01:01:59
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We can go into all the different aspects of the terrain, And i would I would argue that when I ask that question, it usually inherently reveals a very significant pattern that people are actually okay with giving themselves five to a seven.
01:02:15
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and and And then when you sit back, you're like, wait a minute, like 80% of the adult population has chronic illness, 54% of our kids have kids of chronic illness, like, well, no wonder we have that outcome.
Placebo and Healing Perspectives
01:02:26
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outcome Right.
01:02:26
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And then you, if you are in that perspective where you're like, yeah, like from a holistic perspective, I give myself kind of like a C, then it's going to obligate you to be more vigilant with the curiosity.
01:02:42
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Right. But then the strategy, you have to transmute that into energy that then i would argue, I have not seen it like contradicted in my practice, that every every every condition that we experience and express today as modern humans is reversible in this lifetime.
01:03:02
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Whether medicine says that it's curable or not, right? There's a host of diseases that are incurable by pharma. But there is not a single disease pattern that has not somehow healed through human nature, like just through nature alone, right?
01:03:18
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And if you need a resource for that, you should look up the Institute of Noatic Sciences and you should just, you could Google it, right? Google Institute of Noatic Sciences and spontaneous remission PDF.
01:03:31
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And it will come up with thousands of pages and cases which are not peer-reviewed, you know, double-blind clinical trials, but they are evidence of virtually every chronic problem, many of them terminal, that has been reported in the research that says that that it's been healed.
01:03:50
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Nature and and God and the universe and faith is actually undefeated if we actually truly, truly, truly, truly believe it. And unfortunately, pharma and medical thinking and perspectives, although would they make you believe and and feel so bad about yourself,
01:04:10
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their the record ain't even close, right? Placebo is 33%, right? By the research. And they do everything they can to mitigate placebo and downplay it when in reality, every provider that I know that is worth its weight in gold wants placebo on their side every single day.
01:04:26
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Beautiful. yeah beautiful
Episode Conclusion and Resources
01:04:30
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Amazing. Well, listen, this has been honestly the most empowering episode that I think we've recorded yet. Thanks, bud. I appreciate that. your time, your energy, the work that you do? Where can the listeners learn more from you? How can they support you? yeah I would say, i would say mostly find us on Instagram. You can go to our podcast website, which is the future gen.com. If you're in San Diego, I would say you could come to our clinic.
01:04:52
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um That's where I would say the, the, the rubber meets the road. You know, i wish that I could, i like I wish there was a virtual chiropractic adjustment, but there is not. And I wish there was a chiropractic, like virtual chiropractic neuro-focused care plan that can be virtual and it's just there isn't, you know.
01:05:09
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But the other thing and we might do is share a link to to a course that we created if you're cool with that. Because all the things that I'm teaching, which include like terrain theory and a lot of this kind of blend of both health and personal growth um is in our future foundations course. And so love to share that with your guests. And um honestly, if they did that, they would get the best of me that I would say I would say the thing that I try to do on repeat for the first three months of virtually anybody in our relationship of of actual clinical care is to is to give them these different types of perspectives that help them safeguard all the decisions they make in the future. Amazing. Yeah, absolutely. We'll put all the links down below for for the listener.
01:05:51
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Dr. Stan, thank you so much for your time. Dude, awesome. we have wonderful Thank you for being here and congrats on being a dad, man. Appreciate it, man. Thank you. All right, I want to thank you all for listening. Before we wrap this up, we should all remember that this podcast is for informational purposes only, not medical or therapeutic advice, and this does not replace the advice from a qualified professional or practitioner.
01:06:12
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01:06:23
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01:07:18
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