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The "Bridgerton" Episode
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Sarah and Rae discuss how the newest season of Bridgerton disappointed them. And then they get very distracted...
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Reactions to Bridgerton Season 3
00:00:01
Speaker
So, Bridgerton, season three. We could talk about Bridgerton in general, but focus is season three. ah
00:00:12
Speaker
o What water a season. I was not happy. No, not at all. I finished it last night. And there were good there were good scenes for part two. There were there were I will give them that there were better part two was better than part one. Because yeah we watched part one together and the whole time I was still I was saying like this is really dragging. Like this does not feel good. My thing is
00:00:44
Speaker
It seemed like they weren't even focusing on Penn and Colin. Yeah, collin there were way too many storylines going on. it felt more of like Part two seemed more of like John and Francesca's season than Colin. Honestly, col like Nicola Coughlin, when doing the press for this show, for this season, was like, yeah, season one was like passion or something. Season two was yearning and this season was romance. That was Francesca and John for me. That was not that. Francesca and John were the stars of this season, honestly. They they dragged me in. I was like, they were the ones I was invested in. I loved them.
00:01:27
Speaker
They were adorable. I love them. i John and Francesca are my favorite book. I say that for all the books, but I actually do think of if it's if I'm not choosing Colin and Penn's book,
Gender Swap and Show Future Predictions
00:01:41
Speaker
it's John and Francesca's. Well, granted, <unk> it's only half the book. but Yeah, yeah. But that those are so spoilers for people who haven't read the books. But yeah, it's just oh yeah um my god, it's also I don't know. Like I don't think it's possible for people who haven't read the books to not know that spoiler though. Because with Michaela and everything that they did like you have to know
00:02:09
Speaker
I just don't like because I just don't like that they had Francesca fawning over Michaela because it's in the books it's Michael fawning over. Mm-hmm, Francesca even though he doesn't actually do it cuz he's like I love my brother or while my cousin But they're close enough to me brothers. Mm-hmm so much. I'm just going to hide my feelings and Yearn from a distance even after John died earning man your name. It was a good it was true yearning and I did not like how immediately they meet and she's tongue-tied and I'm like I
00:02:48
Speaker
I get what they're doing. For me, it was- That's not the franchise that I know. Yeah, for me it was giving she's biromantic but only sexually interested in women. That was my vibe from that, from like between her reaction to the kiss in the wedding And her just seeing Michaela, I was like, but I have told you my theory, but I'll say it again for the podcast for Francesca and that whole Michaela thing. I know there's a lot of controversy over the fact that they gender swapped Michael.
00:03:25
Speaker
ah My opinion, my theory is that it's somewhat like a shadow and bone kind of theory of like they always plan to cancel after season two. They don't expect to get to Francesca's proper season.
Critique of Representation and Show's Direction
00:03:39
Speaker
So they just threw it in of like, oh, well, we plan to have a queer season. And we just got dancing so we can do it. Yeah, plus Francesco would be the best choice from like a director company standpoint to be like, Oh, we can get the straight couple in and have that straight pairing and then we could throw in like, it's like an extra like a spare.
00:04:06
Speaker
kind of a thing yeah like this is just your bonus couple and that's gonna be our sapphics because we know like we know netflix hates sapphics so there's no chance they're getting screen time like come on yeah no i honestly don't even think they're gonna do an eloise season i think they're ending after four yeah because that's what it seems like i think they're gonna do what they did in the season is that they're gonna throw benedict and eloise together and it's just going to be a whole thing and I'm not going to like it because I have not liked anything since the start of season three as somebody read the books.
00:04:45
Speaker
Yeah, honestly, my thoughts. They're going to do Benedict's, they're going to focus on Benedict and Eloise is just going to be like a hint. Like they're going to imply it. Like with yeah Shadow and Bone, ah I just actually, I just took a shower and I was thinking about this. So like I just started connecting dots, so I'm going to be talking about Shadow and Bone a bit. But for the end of that second season the very end when they're wrapping up all storylines and everything They show the crows and they're like, oh we're gonna do We have a new job thing and they're in plot like the implication is that that would be the
00:05:25
Speaker
um the heist in Fierda, the ice court heist, I think it is, I can't remember the name, I know it's ice, I can't remember the second word, but um so they go, they're implying that therefore they're going to get Matthias out of prison, they're going to go to Fiera, they're going to do that whole heist, se which is one of the best parts of that
Shadow and Bone Tangent
00:05:50
Speaker
series. Like that is the part, that is the thing, that is that whole duology is about. So like the fact that it just got turned into an implication is really annoying, but yeah it's just like
00:06:04
Speaker
They really screwed over Matthias and Nina in that show, but like, whatever. um They're not my favorite, I'll admit. My favorite, I'm torn between Inej and Kaz and Jesper, jes yeah, Jesper and Wyland, just because watching that show, um this is, sorry, this is such a tangent, but watching that show, Jack Wolf is Wyland Van Eck, he'd be such gender envy, it was so bad. um so like i love them and i love their relationship yeah but i also love kinesh um anyway yeah that implication of like we're gonna continue the storyline and these things will happen but we're not showing you is kind of what i'm thinking they're gonna do for eloise of like yeah show her writing or show her like with ink on her hands like they would with pet
00:06:55
Speaker
kind of anything like that. Because that's that's all how Philip and Eloise's relationship start is that they're just pen pals after Marina dies. So I think she's Eloise or Marina is going to die sometime either between I think season three four or or in season four. I think they're going to do it in season four because that's part of like implication. um yeah And also like with Eloise, the costuming was implying things because they were doing like the flower patterns and stuff. So like they've already started the implications, which is why I think there will not be a follow through.
Netflix Adaptations Critique
00:07:31
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, that's Netflix's biggest issue. There is no follow through.
00:07:37
Speaker
no and it's they also like to take stuff and just like completely change it like let's like another tv show that they've totally ruined this is a Witcher i haven't watched after season two i think or three i watched season one i couldn't get into it i watched season one because of Henry Cavill yeah i watched two and then i stayed for John uh uh Joey Bailey oh yeah isn't that the bar i love him yeah that's the bar yeah he's I love Joey Beatty. I love his his band too, Amazing Devil. Yeah. i don't I don't know any of the character names for anything really, except like Jeralt and Siri, but The Witch Lady.
00:08:18
Speaker
the one of her. Yeah. Yeah, she was hot. Not gonna lie. I watched for her too. It was it was a good time. I yeah, I I started for Henry Cavill and stayed for Joey Beatty. And I stopped watching for Henry Cavill because he got fired because he wanted to he wasn't you he was like a serious book reader wanted to keep it accurate. No, he's a big gamer too. And he loves the Witcher series. god i love through' why i I'm actually going to watch um the Warhammer 4K. I don't play it, but I have a feeling it's going to be really good because he's directing it. Oh, la he's directing too. and yeah he's He's also starring in it. That's so awesome. I don't remember res directing your piece producing ah he's I love that when actors are like, I'm going to just try this. Yeah, no, he's he is literally
00:09:16
Speaker
my favorite actor because when he because like he also was really into so I think he also said he was really into Superman and stuff in the Justice League. and he did He was an amazing Superman. like I don't see him as a Clark Kent, but he was a really good Superman. I look at him and I'm like, yeah, that's Superman.
Personal Projects and Nerdy Pursuits
00:09:33
Speaker
yeah he just has the vibe he is and it's just it's it's amazing i love when nerds start like making their projects like i love i love a good project you know me i literally recently um for the podcast for for any listeners i recently but so i was born with the how hard could it be g and i watched
00:09:57
Speaker
part of one 12-minute video of a person talking about their experience making their game, their video game. And I went, I could do that. So now I'm learning Unreal Engine but because, of course, I'm going to go 3D because I'm insane and can't make anything easy for myself. And today and yesterday, I am learning Blender and how to 3D model because I'm psychotic. So I'm a big project fan of Nerds. I'm like, yeah, you do that. I started watching Nerd Forge a bit yesterday. They do some pretty cool stuff. I'm like, I just love it.
00:10:35
Speaker
I love it. Give me your passionate nerds just doing things they love because they go crazy. there Some of the things people make are insane. I know. like It's crazy. Yeah. Getting back to Netflix now with them ruining shows, they do that a lot where they'll do like yeah games, books, whatever, ah adaptations. Like, again, Shadow and Bone, one of my favorite books and everything. So that making an adaptation was like a big deal for me. I actually, this is a hot take, I enjoyed what they did to change the ending. Because in the books, I don't know if you've read all the books, have you? Ma'am, I haven't even watched or read the first one, and I haven't finished this second season. I haven't even started the second season. Okay.
00:11:29
Speaker
You've such. First of all, read the books. Honestly, you could probably skip the Shadow and Bone trilogy and go straight to the Six of Crows. Okay, if you read nothing else, you have to read the Six of Crows duology. It is so good. It's just this gritty heist of six criminals who love each other and are a family. And it's the best thing in the world. but i'll try i'll try i mean i just graduated so i had a timen of time
00:12:00
Speaker
so yeah Yeah. But anyway, back to my point. In the books, at the end of the third see your third book in the trilogy, the Shadow and Bone trilogy, which is the only trilogy in the universe, there's Shadow and Bone trilogy, Six of Crows duology, and then the King of Scars duology, which is also super slay. But I hated one of the things that happens in the second book. I'm sure if you've read them, you know what I'm talking about. I cried like a baby. It was not a good time and they my my heart broke and I lost faith in humanity. Anyway, in the third and final book of the trilogy, obviously you can guess a character dies and I was very upset.
00:12:48
Speaker
Um, in the main trilogy at the end, she, Alina goes, she does the whole, if you haven't watched season two, so I can't even give you that. Like I've seen spoilers. Well, yeah, I know you have spoilers, but like, I can't be like, Oh, when she does this. So yeah when Alina gets rid of the fold, um, when she tears that down. Was that the black male thingy? Yes. Yeah. So when she brings that down, she loses her powers and they like firework out of her and go to other people like more sun, what's the word? More sun people with the sun powers are born basically. I can't remember what the words are right now. um Yeah.
00:13:43
Speaker
So she loses her powers and then she marries Mal and she goes and and runs an orphanage. It sucks. I hate it. And I love the change that Netflix did because it leaves off, you know, obviously it's like kind of a cliffhanger, kind of not because there's still the Jerda Parem and everything that's on the Six of Crows storyline, but also like they've implied they do that, they solve it, whatever. But I love the idea of Alina getting the Darkling's powers from killing him and the fold and everything and turning evil. I love that idea, the cyclical nature of having so much power that you just, what else is there to do except turn evil because that's all that's left. You've been the hero. hu
00:14:38
Speaker
you you either die the hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. And that's what they're doing. And I love it. I loved that. That was honestly stellar. Because I always hated how Alina's storyline ended. But yeah, I hate it. Like, that's why I hated like, bringing a head guitar into this. That's why I really hated the end of Nesta's book. wait Which one was that one? silver flames. Yeah, silver flames. Yeah, I hate it. She just like gave up her powers. Yeah, like I get she was saving her sister. But that's like, and I, I do like it in the sense of she didn't enjoy her powers. She didn't have having them.
00:15:21
Speaker
she felt like she was Lloydy death and that really was a problem for her so i do appreciate it in the fact that it will allow her to heal mentally a lot easier and
Book Adaptations Discussion
00:15:34
Speaker
a lot better i think but also like i would have loved to see her like embrace it more yeah because like i don't know it's just i hate it when strong female characters just like in the Yeah, giving up their powers and then like kind of become becoming docile. Yeah, I know Nesta hasn't. like i have But yeah, like Feyre. And it's just like, I'm sick and tired of authors doing that. Because it's just like, why? That's one of the things I love about the Six of Crows books, is that at the end, like, so obviously, the parents Kanesh is Kazan and Nej. And at the end of the second book,
00:16:19
Speaker
This is like a spoiler, but like you're probably not gonna read them anyway. So Kaz finds her parents, her family, buys her a boat and tells her, go on, go kill all these pirates and all these, like become a pirate, go kill all these slavers. You do you. I love you. This is my way of showing you I love you. I found your family and I bought you a boat so you could go kill slavers and save people like you couldn't be saved. Adorable, I love that. It's amazing. It's such a moment of like a power couple. Like he is staying home being the boss of the barrel and bastard of the barrel and being strong on his own. And then sometimes his little wife comes to visit after killing a bunch of slavers.
00:17:13
Speaker
And it's like, hi babe. I love it.
00:17:18
Speaker
And they are mentioned in like King of Scars. like I am actually should look it up if she has more but books planned. I'm not sure. yeah um if I think she said she wasn't going to make a Six of Crows 3 because people were really worried about it because she said, oh, I might make one. But if I do, another crow is going to die. And so people were like, I really want another book, but I don't want anyone to die. So because like in the King of Scars duology, how it ends is ah Zoya, who is now queen. um And she ends up with Nikolai and I love them so much. um That's one of the couples that Yesen and I have talked about doing a Halloween costume for because we love them so much and we relate so much um because he is just no pretty boy.
00:18:17
Speaker
um
00:18:20
Speaker
anyway Anyway, at the end of that series, Zoya is like, call Kaz Brecker, or like, send word to Kaz Brecker. I have a job for him, basically. So it's like, oh, there's things. And like, they talk about Inej who's like, and they give, oh, they I'm pretty sure this is the thing that happens. I can't remember exactly. But Nikolai gives Inej. So like, in like, I believe they're like trading, kind of a thing of he makes a trade with Kaz. And so he's like, oh, I hear.
00:18:58
Speaker
I don't know exactly how it happens, but basically Inej's boat becomes one of like the flying boats that Sturm-Hond has. It's so sick, dude. I love it. You haven't even met Nikolai. You haven't watched the second season. and Yeah, oh my god, you have to watch it because you saw how long it's like me to rewatch Bridger or watch part two of Bridger. I know, I know. But come on, Nicholas. Part two has been out for a while. But season two is busy, man. But like, Nikolai is really, really hot. And there's a few shirtless scenes.
00:19:36
Speaker
I'm not gonna lie, you've seen because I made a presentation. Maybe I'll put the presentation on the Patreon so people could see it because it was really good. I loved it. We should do monthly monthly presentations. and ah um Monthly is a little strong just from I'm taking 18 credit hours again. Yeah, I forget some people are still in school. I'm i'm sorry. are You clearly just graduated. Yeah, I know. But also I don't think about school when I'm on summer break and I'm still in summer break mode.
College Experiences and Coding Challenges
00:20:11
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Well, you see, I'm still taking classes. so yeah i Yeah. It's hard because like sometimes I'm like, oh, I need to start packing for college. And then I'm like, no, I don't.
00:20:25
Speaker
looking for yeah We're applying to grad school. My comp sci class is almost over, and I'm so excited because it's so boring. It's so easy. and like So I know in high school I took AP comp sci, so I learned Java. And then for our engineering fundamentals, I've learned MATLAB. So for comp sci 102 in college is C++. plus plus Which if you know Java and MATLAB and other coding languages is super easy to learn because they're all very similar with like very slight differences. And so it's so annoying because like I am technically a senior I have one more year left after this but I'm a senior because I have to take five years because my minor it's complicated whatever.
00:21:16
Speaker
So I'm a senior in this like freshman level class and I'm like, bro, this is so easy because I also have like, it's like a superpower kind of of I just really understand coding really easily. which is another reason why- I watch what you do in the Discord and I'm like, ma'am, my little arts and science brain that just got a degree in anthropology and classical archeology and a minor in English can't even comprehend. Yeah. I'm just sitting here like- The most annoying thing was when I was trying to run the one code on the testing scripts and I was trying to error check it and figure it out of what was wrong.
00:21:57
Speaker
freaking the text that was telling me which exactly told me what was wrong was a dark blue on a black screen I could not see it until I took that picture of it and sent it like oh my god I don't know what's wrong it won't tell me and then I saw it and I was like oh it's because I had this as a see out statement and not a see error statement it was so annoying I know you don't understand the words I just said I tried to teach myself coding from Coding Academy and I'm like...
00:22:30
Speaker
C out. Okay. So C out, if you know, like, you probably don't know like basics of Java, but so in Java, it's like a print statement. It just prints into the console, basically. um But C air is an error message instead. So it's just like what you use for Oh, air return one to end your program kind of a thing. Sorry, we might as well as we can speak talk. my pressure Yeah, we have gone on. um I'm way off topic, but what else is new? I'm gonna leave this all in. Yeah, obviously. Yeah, so Bridgerton.
Bridgerton Game Concept
00:23:10
Speaker
I can code Bridgerton. You could probably code Bridgerton better than the writers and producers could be. Probably. They're in season three. Some of my game idea is like a cottagecore fairycore thing. Sorry to go right back off topic, but I swear this kind of relates.
00:23:29
Speaker
Um, I want to do like, I'm still really torn on some mechanics, but I don't want to make decisions just yet. Cause I still have a long way to go. Currently I can just change from first person to third person camera. That's all I have right now. Um, that's progress, but that's just because I've been working on like practices and tutorials and all like the game yeah file. Um, So my plan for it is to have like a whole royalty kind of a thing and like have like society and stuff so like maybe there will be like a Bridgerton aspect to it.
00:24:07
Speaker
yeah But do Regency style clothing. ah Yeah, honestly, I love i love Regency style like dresses. They're so pretty. It's gorgeous. I love it. Some of Penn's dress, that green dress. Oh my god. I love all of her dresses this this season with a sleigh. Yes. I know people will be like, oh, it's not historically accurate. I don't care. Who cares? It's TV. It was gorgeous. You know what it's I love? That's not accurate to history. Lady Jane Grey. My Lady Jane. It's so good, dude. I love it. It's ah I think it's like way before.
00:24:52
Speaker
Regency and everything, obviously. um Because it's King Edward and all of that. um But it's great. It's wonderful. And I love it. Oh, Bridgerton, the thing I was gonna say. Whoa, no, what's his name? What's his name? No, no, no, the other the other suitor. Oh, we're doubling. Doubling. He was a little bitch. I hated him. Because I liked him at first. And then he's like, oh, I just want you to stay at home and watch the house and you can't fall in love with anybody. And I was just sitting here like. Bro, bro.
00:25:35
Speaker
I hated him because the whole thing that ends up with Colin and Penn getting together with the carriage scene, which I was a little upset we didn't get a second one, but whatever. So the thing that pissed me off- Well, I'm just upset when they had it. Yeah. They were like, what's going on? Yeah, because like, sorry, I know this is the books versus the TV series and people are like- Books is always better. Yeah, the books are always better and um people are supposed to take creative liberty liberty whenever you're doing adaptations, whatever. I just do not think that they should have gotten together before Colin found out that Penelope was Lady Whistledown.
Missed Opportunities in Bridgerton
00:26:16
Speaker
Yeah, it may. They didn't get together till after actually what got them together was Colin finding out she was a lady whistle down because he followed her to a church when she was dropping off her, her, her whatever that was basically yelling at Kredessa for taking her shine and ah trying to say, Oh, yeah, um I am lady whistle down. And then they get together and then it's the carriage scene. I did not like the ordering of events. Yeah. I like very much disliked it as well just because it felt very disingenuous. Yeah. Also like every other season follows the linear pattern pattern of the plot of each book loosely. Like it's still it's still linear, it's still following each scene. each scene
00:27:12
Speaker
But it it's not out of order. It's not out of order. Some things are cut, but it's not out of order. Yeah. And like, it just. I did not like it. I was very upset. I hated how the fact that he finds out in what it's like episode six and all of episode seven, they're just like annoyed. and Not talking, miscommunication trope, whatever. And there was such a good moment for like angry makeup sessions and they just skipped it. They just went no. so bra And the only one that they had was when she was coming back from Gwen.
00:27:50
Speaker
Uh, is it Gwen or Guinevere? Guinevieve. Um, the Moniece. Yeah, Guinevieve. Isn't that her name? I don't know. I don't know her name. Yeah. I forgot her name, but the, the Moniece's house. No, that's the only time. And I was just like, I was, I was- Bro. Yeah, for two minutes. I was like, I, I finished it at like 1am last night and I was like, Damn it, I can't rant to her about it. It was really annoying. Yeah, but back to Lord Devlin. Yeah, back to why Lord Devlin's a bitch and I hate him. So the final part of him, his final scene is him telling Penn, like, I'm not comfortable with this, you're in love with col Collins, in love with you, whatever.
00:28:38
Speaker
that little bitch had been like placing himself between them for several scenes at this point where he would catch calling like looking over and he would place himself in between so Penn wouldn't see like he knew far before that scene and he was fine with it until it was like a you have to stay home and be my little wife and be docile and don't do things like bro yeah He would not have liked her being girl boss lady whistled out and her boy toy smut writer Colin is fine with it after he got over his stupid jealousy that he shouldn't have had. Him and Eloise. I will say I was really pissed on how they did Eloise because she is literally
00:29:27
Speaker
Penelope's hyped woman in the book when she finds out she's Lady Whistledown. And I was like not i was not here for it. I did not like how strained they made their relationship. They're best friends in the book. It was so annoying. The one thing they did right was Hyacinth being so happy. I adored Hyacinth. And then Penelope's sisters, Prudence and Philippa, I love them. I love them so much. Philippa is my favorite. Inserts himself where?
00:30:02
Speaker
that Dude, I'm gonna be quoting that so often. Anytime I heard the word insert, it's gonna be inserts himself where? The way she says it. If you don't bring them up at least one time in the campaign. Oh, I will. Oh, Barbie. It's perfect. Yeah. Perfect for her. And then the bugs, the party, the bugs, whatever. yeah eyes
00:30:33
Speaker
And it was so cute. I love, hope of I love her and Mr. Finch because he's just like, that's my wife. I trust her implicitly. she will and then She's always right. What a good guy. And Prudence growing as a character, I adored that. She was all grumpy and like, oh, I'm married, whatever, blah, blah, blah. And then like she slowly grows. And then when um Penelope and Colin get engaged. And and ah miss featherther or Lady Featherington is like, actually, what's the word?
00:31:10
Speaker
Like, paying attention and realizing, oh, I fucked up. I need to i need to fix this with my daughter. And being good mom. Like, honestly, okay, I love Violet. I do. Lady Featherington, I think, was a better mom this season than Violet was. Yes. Yes. Like, she was a good mom to Colin. She was not a good mom to Francesca. Yeah. Lady Featherington. She slays. She always slays, first of all. That woman is yeah a mega-slay. Her as a mom, not so slay usually, I will say. Part two. But I understand. like She's a bad mom in the sense of like being there for her daughters and like actually emotionally being there for them. But in the sense of like
00:32:02
Speaker
This is life or death kind of a situation of like, I need to keep protect my family. Megaslye. She's very much missed Mrs. Bennett. Yes. She's very much, I need to protect my family. And then she's like, whatever. Yeah, and she's like, my dreams are that you guys do successfully. Yes, getting married, whatever. And I, I when that scene happened, I was like, Oh, I'm gonna cry. I'm really going to cry. Dude, when pen is considering like giving up her pen, haha. And
00:32:36
Speaker
uh and like giving up lady whistle down because of Colin and everything and she's talking to her mom and her mom is like ladies don't have dreams they have husbands dude i was like oh hurt. That really hurts so bad because society now still says that basically like that's still yeah the whole thing. And it's just like, I was ready to cry. I felt like I was at the Barbie movie. I was like, my goodness.
00:33:11
Speaker
yeah That was such a powerful, like this season Penn and miss Mrs. Fatherington had such powerful emotional scenes for me yeah ah about like a woman's place in society. Yeah. And then also I would like to segue to the ending. I hated how rushed the ending was. Yeah. Like it immediately jumps to, I wouldn't say it's like at least nine months later, probably a little bit more. It was definitely more than nine months considering Pan wasn't even pregnant yet.
Rushed Ending Critique
00:33:44
Speaker
I thought it kind of was implied because she took Colin's hand and put it on her stomach.
00:33:50
Speaker
in the like when they were talking about um what to do with Kredessa by themselves right before she sends a letter to Violet Melbourne. I did not see that but I also don't think that would be the implication just because they only had sex once and at that point also like they hadn't been like talking or whatever so like when would she have told him kind of a thing? Yeah, well, no, I thought it was like she was implying that she was she implying that she was pregnant there. ah That's what I was getting. But i yeah, again, that's that was my that's a loose loose. It's very loose. But it's like, I love that she had a boy, though. yeah i Yeah, I as much as I i miss miss her first born being Agatha after Lady Danbury, it wouldn't have made as much sense.
00:34:47
Speaker
yeah yeah i mean They haven't built up their relationship. i kind of yeah That was my one thing. is like I was hoping that way they would build up Agatha and Pin's relationship because they have a really they're really good friends in the book. like it's It's like Violet and and Agatha's friendship. and but Lady Danmary, for people who don't remember her first name. oh After you're done with this, I have have a quarrel to to say. You reminded me. okay yeah like yeah so um I was kind of hoping that they would build up that relationship. And then there was one more friendship that Penelope has in the book that she did not have.
00:35:31
Speaker
as strong and for the life of me I cannot remember and I was hoping that would play her and Anthony because Anthony is like her yes older brother and like it showed that a little kind of showed it but it's like not not yeah and it's like Benedict's comment of like are you gonna duel your own brother was so funny it was because like out of context if you didn't know that they were friends in the book they barely have any scenes together yeah and But and then like it is implied that they've known each other for a while But like you don't really see that because she I don't think she's really interacted with Anthony, but like I don't think she has at all yeah, and it's really love to see like that big brother relationship and how that would have played in like Collins mindset and like fear of acting on his feelings and
00:36:24
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yeah because it's a whole thing in the book and then yeah one last thing before you start your rant i also hated how Colin was a rake this the season as well he's supposed to be a my wife guy and he just he wasn't well the thing is in the okay in the book he is also kind of a rake but it's not to this point he's not like standoffish and stoic whatever he still is happy girl lucky dude he just got some brenton they are like I think he's like almost 30 and Penn is like 27. Yeah, so I enjoy Penn's whistle down thing of being like he doesn't know himself. That was good because it was accurate. It was. And he's like, and about all you said he's like, well, yeah, I guess you're not who I fell in love with blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. So it's like, I don't know. I have a lot of I have a lot of opinions about the season.
00:37:23
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Yeah, we can go back to Colin being a wife guy after this quick, quick little thing. um It is pretty quick. For those interested in any sense of like film, direction, cameras, stuff like that. Oh, yeah. There was one scene in part two that was abysmal. I don't understand how the director looked at that and went, that's the take we're gonna keep. We're gonna keep those shots. And it's when Lady Danbury and Violet are talking, Mrs. Bridgerton. They're talking and they're doing over the shoulder shots.
00:38:02
Speaker
and you see three fourths like a half two three fourths the screen is taken up by the back of the person's head and then the last like fifth of the screen is the other person in focus talking who signed off on that because that is the worst camera work I have seen in my entire life. It was so bad. I knew so I didn't you're talking about because youve you you ranted to me this to me about this before we uh before I finished the season and I got to that scene I was like oh that's what you're talking about and like the only good part of the scene is that like it pans to
00:38:46
Speaker
Francesca and John at the end, and I can kind of see what they're getting at it, but i didn't like I didn't like how they kept on switching back and forth. There are so many other ways you could have done it. At least put the other person in the frickin' frame and not just like half their face in the last fifth of the screen. ah One thing I did enjoy about that scene that's really funny is that they're talking about Violet and Lady Danbury's brother, and they're discussing it, and then she's like, well, I fucked your dad, so I think we're pretty even. and then most ah if It goes to the crown, the birthday crown. I was like, dude. If you haven't watched Queen Charlotte's miniseries and you don't know what we're talking about, that is where that happened.
00:39:32
Speaker
where Lady Danbury fucks my Litt's dad. Which is so messy and I love it. The fact that Violet finds out is so funny. I honestly think that is so awkward. That is so awkward. That is so messy, dude. Yeah. and man I was really hoping that they were going to do like a little thing of like, this is the king's guy from Queen Charlotte and he's still alive and happy and they're in love. And then they didn't. Yeah, I kind of yeah. I'm sad that what's his what was his name? The block the king's guy.
00:40:17
Speaker
I don't know. That's why I called him the King's the guy. Yeah, the King's guy. I was kind of sad he wasn't familiar. And I was kind of hoping we'd have more King George, especially after um is King George, right? King Charlotte. Yeah, after Queen Charlotte. And I was kind of hoping we'd have just like slight more because I did like, I think it was season two when they had like the mini wedding thing after Edwina's failed wedding to Anthony. Yeah. And i I was kind of hoping they'd have a little bit more because it's
Fashion and Collectibles Discussion
00:40:49
Speaker
absolutely adorable. I love Queen Charlotte and George. They're the cutest and it's a whole thing. and I absolutely love Anthony and Kate. I know. Her dress is a season. Her dresses were so... She has a beautiful... that is it ah What's her name? Simone. oh Something. I almost said Simone Biles. No.
00:41:15
Speaker
bridge i I'm looking up as Simone Ashley. She, Simone Ashley is a beautiful woman. Like everything they put her in, she was just so stunning. Her in like jewel tones. Gorgeous. grow and Like even in season two, like when it's supposed to be like, we're still supposed to be like rooting for Edwina. And like Edwina is the one that has to be all dolled up because she's on the marriage mark. Kate steals the show, dude. It's so beautiful. So beautiful. Sorry, I and looked up her name and now I'm like looking at scenes from both seasons of her dresses. And I'm just like, where can I buy these? They're so gorgeous. I've had plant like I have. So part of my jack of all trades. I
00:42:07
Speaker
I do sew. I do have a sewing machine and I've made a few dresses and I have a few planned that I just have not gone around to for so long and I can't i just i can't bring myself to make them. It's just so much work and like while I love it, I love sewing because it's very like steadying for me because I have mental illness.
00:42:29
Speaker
it's It's just a lot and I haven't gotten around to it. yeah I'm very sad. Oh, sorry, there is a Funko pop of her own for dresses and she has a mallet of death. Oh, yes. And I love that. Sorry, I get distracted easily. I need to close off that. Thank you. Oh, it's sad. Yeah, I got Funko pops. I have I hang up only missing two from the Dungeons and Dragons movie. yeah i Because Barnes and Noble was having a sale and they had most of them. And I was like, yeah, I'm going to get them. Yeah, I only have two. I want to get more, but i only my two are Jane Austen that I bought from eBay because I'm obsessed with her books. I Jane Austen, dude. Pride and Prejudice 2005 starring Keira Knightley and Matthew McFaden. I could quote from Heart.
00:43:27
Speaker
And then Emma. I am love that. ah Emma, I forgot which one it is. I think it's like the early 2000s Emma though that I watched in film class because I took film class in high school because I'm a nerd. Oh my god, it was gorgeous. I loved it. It's, I need to read it. Emma and Mr. Kingsley, or Lord Kingsley, Mr. Kingsley. I forgot his name. I think it's Mr. Yeah, Mr. Kingsley. door Adorable. I love them. Emma is one of the books I think we were supposed to read for the Jane Austen class that I didn't read. I took it and I didn't reread any of the books or read them. Honestly, I skimmed through them. The only other book I read, because I took the intro to Jane Austen class too, was um I reread Pride and Prejudice because I do that all the time. And then I read Northington Abbey, because that one. Northanger? Northanger, sorry. It's fine, i just I know what it was. so Yeah, Northanger Abbey.
00:44:22
Speaker
I read that because it was her parody of like the dark, what was it, the gothicly gothic literature that ah the Brontë sisters did and I hate the Brontë sisters. I hate the Brontë sisters. Okay, hot take. That's not so hot. I don't care if you love the Brontë sisters. Withering Heights is trash. It is so bad. I had to read it note in high school English. Oh, I had to read it in high school. ah Sorry. ah I had to read it in high school English for my honors class because that class was a nightmare. I loved the teacher. Love her. She made me hate life for a little because we had to
00:45:06
Speaker
part of my honors AP whatever class, yeah we had to do and one essay every week plus two like short write ups that were like five three to five paragraphs still on at two of those and an essay every single week while we went through this book and all these tropes and it was a nightmare. And I love her so much. She has made me, I can write an essay so fast now. Like that was her whole thing of like, you're gonna be able to write an essay in an hour and it's gonna be perfect. um and And it worked like I can write an essay like nobody's business. Of course. I'm studying mechanical engineering So I don't have to read essays but lucky duck. I have to read them all Dude, I would prefer it. I'm sorry. Oh, yeah. No, I love right you've seen you have seen some of the things I have had to do for No, I'm so glad to do essays all the time like I love
00:45:59
Speaker
like don't get me started. My last essay that I wrote for my college degree is always going to have a place special place in ah my heart because it's combining my two degrees. I'm not going to go off because I will go off on like an hour long tangent on how much I love my paper. um yeah But back to my my main point of like, I read Wuthering Heights in high school. And it wasn't over the summer kind of a thing where we had to start inside and we were going through it in class. yeah we had get right I didn't finish it because I physically couldn't without like, getting super pissed off or falling asleep. yeah Because if you haven't read Wuthering Heights, the basic
00:46:38
Speaker
way it is written is that it is you are this guy who has come into the area and is staying at this house and this maid or whatever is telling you this story about people she used to work for. It is like yeah It's three times removed from the actual people the story is about. And it's the dumbest shit I have ever read. Why? So I read it on my I tried to read it on my own because I was that girl in high school. I read Pride and Prejudice out of my own free will. That's what I did because I was like, I want to watch Pride and Prejudice.
00:47:16
Speaker
Yeah, I'm gonna read the book. I read the book and then I watched 2005 and fell in love immediately. And the first time I ever watched Pride and Purchase 2005, I watched it twice in the same day. That's what I did. I tried to get my mom to watch it and she was like, No. No. It's like the two, she's like Colin Firth. That's the better, Pride and Prejudice. I'm like, no, no, no. Keira Knightley and Matthew McFadden are perfect. Keira Knightley is so hot. Okay, so my my only take is ah I love Keira Knightley as an actor. I think she's too hot for Elizabeth's role. She would have made a big Jane. And Jane's actor would have been a good Elizabeth, I think. I get that. When it comes to like,
00:48:00
Speaker
Cause like she's here clearly the stereotypical, yeah this is our heroine. This is, yeah I love though that they, Matthew McFadden, no shade. He looks perfectly fine in that movie. But I love the fact that they play at down his attractiveness until the moment in when she's at Pemberley and there's sun shining and he smiles at her for the first time and you're like, Oh, okay. He's hot. Yeah, I love that.
Literature Critiques and Adaptations
00:48:34
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Yeah, no but I yeah, so I read that and then I read Jane Eyre right after that in Jane Eyre. If you don't know is about an 18 year old falling in love with her 40 year old employer. And then yeah, and then you find out that said employer first off has an illegitimate daughter.
00:48:53
Speaker
um And then has his wife logged up in the attic. And then he'll read her in the book. Because she's insane, the wife. She sets fire to the house, he gets burned. and um i am I don't remember how it happens. I think she goes back to the thing but he comes after her because he he sends her away but she comes back to him and then they get and married and then she does the one thing that she said she was not going to do which was sent if they got married and that is to send the illegitimate daughter away to boarding school. She did that and I was livid because excuse you
00:49:37
Speaker
yeah like it's not your daughter it's not your daughter and like the the the the i mean the guy didn't do anything to stop her either but like yeah i was just so freaking mad yeah one of the things with withering heights when i read it is that so i didn't finish it and we had assignments about it so instead of finishing the book or reading like the spark notes or whatever i I watched the Thug Notes video, I think it's called. And you know what? I understood what happened afterwards. It was really good. Yeah. Yeah. That was so fun. Yeah. But anyways, The Brownie Sisters Suck, Northanger Abbey, best book. I loved it. So cute. It was just, it was, because I normally don't like gothic literature. I love that.
00:50:31
Speaker
Jane Austen, best writer, I think honestly ever. My favorite thing about that intro to Jane Austen class is that for the Pride and Prejudice section, we were doing Pride and Prejudice and those themes and comparing it and like to an adaptation of Pride and Prejudice and the adaptation he picked was Pride and Prejudice and Zombies, which is an amazing movie. I love the dar the guy who plays Darcy because he also plays Davell in Maleficent. yes and i love him i love him he oh he is so good it is so good i love i love both of them um because like there's two ways you can go for adaptations in my opinion you can go super serious stick to the book don't really go off and do things on your own except
00:51:23
Speaker
Pride and Prejudice 2005, my favorite movie ever, has one thing that they go off book for that I can think of clearly. And that is the location of the first proposal that they did so well. It is so much better. The rain scene between the rain and the gazebo. And the tension. So good. So good. Yeah. So you can either go super serious, super stick to the books, or go off the walls crazy we're doing a campy like fun little thing and that's Pride and Prejudice and Zombies. So I actually read the first book of Pride and Prejudice and Zombies because it's like a trilogy. Oh my god there's books? Yeah there's books and it's also so insane because it's like written like it's Jane Austen writing it but it's just about the zombies. I love that.
00:52:14
Speaker
Yeah, awesome. Yeah, but it's like it's like I think it's either a trilogy or there's like four books. I can't remember. Ah, quartet. Yeah, quartet. I can't remember how many books there are. There's more than but I know there's at least three. There's a second one that is amazing. Yeah. And ah But I haven't finished this season or series because I'm like, I'm not into zombies. I just read it because I watched the movie. Honestly, I might have to go find those books now because that sounds so funny. There's one spoiler though. It is that Darcy does apparently get turned into a zombie, but he gets turned back into a human. Oh, okay. Yeah. Acceptable. And I think they solved the zombie problem. I think the last book is dealing with them trying to
00:53:02
Speaker
save everything and like get rid of all the zombies and stuff. But yeah, I'm not like a huge zombie horror. Well, actually, when I was in ah middle school, I was really well, yeah, I was more like fourth grade to middle school. I was so into the hardcore. I was I was living. I was reading. Oh, my God. What's ah Steve? Stephen King? No, no, this was a different thing. It was like, I don't know. i Let me just see if I can find. Yeah, I was also like from fourth fourth grade to like middle school. I was big horror. I would read all the scary spooky stories. I would watch all the horror movies, all that. And then I for i think it was starting with like I was watching a World War Z or something. Dan Pablocchi. I loved him. He did The Ghosts of Raylock, The Haunting of Gabriel Ash, which I loved both of those. Those are the ones I read.
00:54:01
Speaker
um He did so many and I love his books. I still have them. Yeah, they're so good. I got my i ah goosebumps and then which also read those because I do like those those are just campy. um Yeah, if you give me some campy horror, I'm all in. But I can't like, I would read like all these spooky horror storybooks. Like this is an older, this is an older movie now, but I recently this year, watched bodies, bodies, bodies, which is ah it's an old, it's like from 2021. So like it just went on to Netflix or whatever. And I watched it because like when it was coming out, I was like, Oh, that seems interesting. And then I never watched it. Yeah, but it has
00:54:49
Speaker
I don't know like their names, but it's one of the girls who was in Bottoms, the new movie that came out, which was also so funny. rachel sinna I have no idea her name, and I'm not going to bother looking it up because that'll be time. But she's in Bottoms. She's like one of the main characters in Bottoms, which great movie as well. Campy. I love it. Crazy. But Bodys, Bodys, Bodys is so interesting, like watching it because it's like one death leads to a whole bunch of other deaths because they think there's a murderer in the house.
00:55:22
Speaker
so Yeah, they think there's a murderer in the house and so they end up killing this one guy because they think he's the murderer and then there's other girl overdoses and then they are like, oh my god, there's a murderer. It's one of us and then more another girl dies and like it goes on and on and it's so good because the very end is them realizing the guy died on accident because of his own fault and every death after that was like their fault and not justified. It was just like, oh, we killed that guy. He didn't kill anyone. The guy killed himself on accident because he was fucking around with a machete.
00:56:01
Speaker
and it's so good and it's so like it's it's like kind of campy horror in the sense of they're like freaking out and they're it's like kind of like i think scary movie-esque it's really good yeah the scary movie is the only scary movie is i will watch now i after like for some reason i've i've started getting into horror only because i well not even horror because i started watching a lot of psychological movies yeah i hate psychological there I watched Miller's Girl and I was like, oh my god, I love this. So growing up I'd watch them all the time and then like I think it was a quiet quiet place. I think was it was beginning to the end of scary movies for me. That movie messed me up.
00:56:48
Speaker
Miller's Girl isn't scary, but it's technically like a psychological movie. yeah Just because, in my opinion, it's very much a movie you would watch in high school and analyze, which I love. I don't know what it is that I was just like, this is something you analyze. And I love it. Have you watched Miller's Girl? When did it come out? It's on Netflix. I
Film Discussions and Psychological Complexity
00:57:10
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know that. Oh, he just came out recently. ah No, I, yeah again, I don't watch trailers. It's not a thriller. I will watch it with someone else, but I can't watch it myself. Oh no, it's not scary at all. It's got, yeah, no, it's got Martin Freeman and Jenna Ortega. Yeah, and I love Jenna Ortega. That's a horror movie I watched recently was X because of Jenna Ortega. I kind of want to watch Scream. I will watch the new Screams because it's got Jenna Ortega and also because I kind of do like the Scream movies. They're kind of, I would say they're campy, are they not?
00:57:44
Speaker
I have a larger mystery. Oh, okay. Yeah. So it's basically, well, the first one has, um, the guy who plays Shaggy in the live action scooby-doos from the early 2000s. Mark Shep. No, no. Oh my God. He's so iconic too.
00:58:03
Speaker
i can't remember his name he's so iconic though i know hold on i'm looking it up um matthew little lillard yeah lillard yeah he plays i knew like i do he's a skeek and but he decides to become a serial killer in the first movie and so he like goes dresses in this classic screen mask and then he goes and like go basically goes on a murder spree and then like takes um it's a whole thing and then they catch him and then like each it becomes like an urban legend was the scream mask kind of like how ah it spawned like a whole bunch of movies but now there's like gin artegas and i haven't i don't understand how it happened ah how that
00:58:46
Speaker
how those work out but um because i haven't really watched them yet but it's like i think she and her sister are like fighting him i guess or and it's like a multi-series series thing kind of like how the later halloween's happened but um Yeah, that's new I think the only other scary movie I will watch I can't I can't do Halloween or and I can't do any I don't do scary Halloween like I don't do horror movies. So like Miller's Girl is not a horror. It's not even a thriller. There's nothing scary or jumpy at all in it. It is just about a student teacher relationship.
00:59:28
Speaker
And basically, like, I don't want to like, sport nothing. There's one kiss between them that actually happens. Yeah. But it's such an interesting thing of like, who's in the wrong here? Was this her plan the whole time? Like, because, oh, I don't want to ruin any lines for you. Because some of them are so like, oh my god, that's such a good line. ah But there is a part of like a callback to the beginning that makes you rethink everything that's happened. So she like manipulating everything everything? You don't know. Because it's she's also having like an emotional response to everything that's happened. And it's not clear if it was actually like planned or not. And I love it so much.
01:00:17
Speaker
Yeah. and I might watch it. I don't know. I don't do thrillers. and I used to and then I watched. It's not a thriller at all. Yeah. Yeah. You keep on talking about it. Yeah. it's It's really not. I promise. Yeah. in Like I would watch this and then fall asleep right after. Yeah. ah might I might check it out. i Again, I have a lot of stuff I have to catch up on because of my last semester. I've And then I have also a billion books I need to catch up on reading. It's so good. All right, well, then I'll just spoil the line for you. Yeah. ah So if you don't want this spoiler, if you haven't watched Miller's Girl, skip ahead a bit. So basically, she in the beginning of the movie, she's writing her essay for Yale to apply to Yale. And the question is, what is your grade greatest achievement?
01:01:12
Speaker
And as a joke, her friend says like, oh, you could do a whole writing of like how society views relationships between different ages of people and like taboo romance kind of a thing. And at the very end, her friend comes to see her like how ah do you haven't said anything everything's going to shit like what's going on and she's reading out her essay and it's like and her friend's like what are you what are you reading and she's like this is by far my greatest achievement and it's so good and it's also because like he it's an english teacher and he wrote a book and she reads his book and it's like the
01:02:01
Speaker
Oh my God, what what's the line? um Something something the ruins of a madman's is love. And it's so that's such a it's such a good line. And she repeats it in her essay. Because she's like, I want to know what that feels like. And it's just so good. I love that movie.
Jenna Ortega and Wednesday Series
01:02:22
Speaker
Yeah. But it's so good. Jen Artega is so talented. Yeah. No, Jen Artega, I cannot wait for her Wednesday. Are they even doing Wednesday? They're doing a season two. Yeah. I cannot wait for them. They're filming. Yeah. That was like, if they ruin it, I will cry. There were parts I didn't love. Yeah. But overall, I really enjoyed Wednesday as someone who is a bit of a Wednesday fanatic and has worn a Wednesday dress several times.
01:02:53
Speaker
Normally, yeah, it doesn't fit anymore, which is why I don't wear it anymore because it got too short, which is crazy because I don't grow. But I would wear it so often. I love that dress so much. Yeah, I grew up watching The Addams Family, like the old stuff. And then we watched some the movies and those are like our favorite Halloween. It was some of our favorite Halloween movies. And then Wednesday came out and it just I had low expectations because of Netflix. Yeah. Because of usually they either have I was very worried. Yeah, I was very worried because they usually do really shitty on stuff like this and For it to like be half as good as It was I was yeah, I Was sure I was blown away. Yeah, I can't wait to see what they do for the second season because there's so many pairings that people root for I love the only one I hate is
01:03:53
Speaker
the one guy who's trying too hard, who gets her like the gives her the phone at the end. It was either one that um knew her as a child. he's not the monster guy. Yeah, no, the the arrow. Yeah, the archery. Yeah. I hope they bring the monster dude back. Oh, 100%. I love him. He and also it just makes sense to me that Wednesday would be into it. Yeah, she would be into it. And it's like kind of mirroring her and her
01:04:24
Speaker
yeah or her parents um relationship kind of and it's just like I hated that one guy he was so annoying and like him giving Wednesday the phone at the end pissed me off so much yeah cuz like that's her whole thing she doesn't do that ah The one gripe I have about that show, like this is the only thing I didn't enjoy, was the family dynamics for Wednesday. Because like, they're the Addams. Their whole thing is that they love each other. And like, her mom, it like, they're supposed to their whole thing is that they were supposed to be a character care. What's the word? There's they're just supposed to be like a parody of the modern family.
01:05:08
Speaker
Yeah, and I don't like how when so they made them, they made them stereotypical, and they're supposed to be the opposite yeah stereotypical. Yeah. And it's just like, but I kind of hope um it gets better. But I think they'll probably I think everyone was really mad about that. So I think they'll probably fix that yeah in the second season is my hope. yeah But I know Jenna, she's got this. Yeah.
01:05:42
Speaker
I do say I prefer her and Tyler. I do really enjoy that romance, but her and her roommate would be really funny and really adorable. Yeah, it would be funny, but I really like her and her roommate and the other dude. Yeah, I really liked them, but that last episode really turned me, and I love the sunshine, black cat vibe, considering my golden retriever boyfriend. Well, I like it is cute like that if it did become a relationship, I wouldn't be mad, but also like what I also think it'd be just really cool for her to have a really nice friendship. Yeah, and I would also enjoy that because you don't really like it's you don't imagine Wednesday having friends.
01:06:36
Speaker
Yeah, and I really I think that is like what she needs is that wholesome like this is a person I can rely on who isn't a part of my family that I that I can rely on that is that loves me, you know, and isn't going to go away. Yeah, because I feel like that's a lot of her reason for isolating herself. Yeah. Because it's Wednesday, Adams. She's scary. She's spooky, ooky. Yeah. Like, you don't talk to Wednesday. She doesn't talk to you. Kind of a thing. And I really, I would love her to get a good friendship outside of her family. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. but So Bridgerton, guys. Yeah, Bridgerton.
01:07:25
Speaker
um Oh, well we were going to go back and talk about, um, my wife. Oh, Colin. Yeah. He's supposed to be a wife guy and I'm really disappointed. It's good. The, you know, the wife guy, it was giving Ned Fulmer from Try Guys. He was giving a fake my wife got. Yeah. Mine is the cheating. Yeah, I'm a bad husband. and I actually, honestly, at one point was like, oh my god, ah when he was getting, you know what? No, no, no, you know what? It was giving Ned Fulmer when it should have been Shane top. Yes.
01:08:04
Speaker
um dude I'm obsessed with them. They're so adorable. Honestly, can I be honest, I thought what they were going to do is that he was when he was getting drunk, And then everyone left, I was like, oh my God, they better not have him go to the brothel. I would have thrown my phone across, because it was watching on my phone. I would have thrown it, because Netflix would do. That's something Netflix would do. They would. And I would have thrown my phone across the room if he did that. I would have been so upset. I would have been so upset. I would have actually ended my watch through right there and then and never watched anything Bridgerton ever again.
01:08:44
Speaker
I was so upset with this season, and what is so annoying is that the press tour was better than the season, first of all. We can all agree. Yes. Nicola Coughlin and Luke Newton killed it, except Luke Newton then right after part two drops, Hard launches his new girlfriend after everyone had been shipping him and Nicola. Yeah. That was kind of douchey. Yeah. Like I get it. It's not great for real person shipping. Like, okay, don't have so much chemistry. Well, no, they're actors. So like, i i I kind of figured it was like a press tour thing. Yeah, like I would have loved for them to be together. But also like, I'm real person shipping is icky. Oh, yeah. and I try my best not to do it. Um,
01:09:34
Speaker
I have hope, but like I'm not gonna go online and be like, oh my god, these people have to be together. yeah But him doing that, the second part two drops, I would feel so i feel so bad for the girlfriend to be like, you're gonna do this to me? crazyy people people yes but why' not I I don't know. I was like, did no one else see this coming? like Seriously, they're actors. I don't actually think they were... they were actually going to get together yeah like i had hope but i wasn't expecting anything i did not expect it at all and and then it's like you're yeah opening your girlfriend up to getting so much hate
01:10:14
Speaker
Why would you do that? Yeah. Um, I will say though, apparently there are like a whole bunch of deleted scenes that didn't get make the cut that were. Yeah, I heard about that. And I was like, Okay, can you please release them? Because they would make the show a lot better. yeah Like, honestly, like I hate what Netflix does is do hour long eight episode seasons. Yeah, like 20 episode seasons. da bre Yeah, bring those back. I like I don't care if they're 30 minute long, it would give because like if this was like a 2020 season or 20 episode season, each 30 minute long and they all ah you would have had all this time for Benedict season, Benedict threesome, all these storylines, eight episodes. Yeah. It like if it was at least
01:11:03
Speaker
20 you would have had time you would have yeah because shows used to be like 20 to 25 episodes long minimum And it's just like for seasons. Yeah. And then we'll, or like even 45, like, okay, let's take Supernatural for example, early seasons, there were like 20, uh, 20 episodes per season, 45 minute long. And they had so much care. Like that's how, you that's how they got you in is that there was so much character development in those seasons. Like, yeah. Like, I know you haven't watched, uh, have you watched Supernatural? I can't remember. I watched the first two seasons, I think. and Yeah. but
01:11:39
Speaker
okay so like parents have watched it like seven times so i've seen episodes i haven't like i haven't watched out for like season 10 11 i can't remember but um like dean and sam it like even from season one to two dean and sam at the beginning versus season end of season two completely different people And that's what yeah when you get to Bridgerton or something, and this is supposed to be an entire season long, which is like ah summer like from spring to almost autumn.
01:12:12
Speaker
yeah All the characters kind of seem static. Yeah, there's no development. There's no development in the season. Yeah. And it's like, and and then it's like, all of a sudden, Oh my God, there's been so much development off screen. Yeah. and like the Cause that was my whole thing was Colin and Penelope. Is that like, you can see them get together right at the end and then like five minutes later they're happy they they're like kissing they have a baby they have a baby where where was it what is that give me my happiness netflix why can't i just be happy like and then like the whole bit addict thing that was i thought it was implied that it was a single night but apparently it was multiple nights and it was just like continuous throughout like what see episode two and three or not two and three
01:13:03
Speaker
Seven and eight or something? I don't know. I honestly skipped through all of those parts. Wow, you hate the gays. I don't, but, uh, I just like, I watched the first one and I was like, okay. And then we're just like, get them continuing. And I'm like, ah yeah. ah and i One thing I don't enjoy is the ratio of screen time to sex scenes to actual meaningful scenes yeah in Bridgerton, which is also, I felt about Game of Thrones, like watching Game of Thrones, cause I didn't watch it, you know?
01:13:38
Speaker
for a long time. I watched it last year. yeah ah For the first time, I think it was last year. It was your last year, like the beginning of this year, but I think it was the end of last year. I still haven't watched it, but I'm not watching it on the principle that I hated the first book. I stopped halfway through because they killed the doggies. yeah Honestly, if you can't handle like a lot of fucked up like things.
Game of Thrones Content Warnings
01:14:03
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In a sense of like my hard line usually in books. This is my hard line for books is s is sexual assault essay because I don't know what it is reading it. I read The Key Runner in high school because we had to and I felt sick for months after like that is my hard line and
01:14:24
Speaker
and For movies or something, I for some reason have a lot easier time handling it. I feel like it's because of screen Well, not in Game of Thrones. Oh, yeah. but Well, it's like kind of off screen, kind of not. Yeah. ah Because like in the one thing that I'm thinking of, they don't he makes a childhood friend of hers watch. And it focuses in on his face. So you're not seeing it, but like you hear her screams and stuff like that. It's bad. That's also why I couldn't get into it, because I was like, oh, there's so much. There is a lot of icky things you have to be able to handle.
01:15:00
Speaker
yeah um And I think I handle it better for TV because there's more separation yeah between me and the character because like books, you're in it. This is you. Yeah, i know it's really bad. I like there were scenes where I skip like, because I stopped halfway through whenever they killed off um the dogs, or all the wolves. I stopped that right then and there. I but I like through a couple Sansa's wolf. Yes, on this wolf. Yeah, because I think that's the first one to go. Yeah. And then Arias like runs away. Yeah. And then I was like, OK, I can't read this. And it was I was kind of upset because my book I brought to school. There are some rough, rough moments with the dogs that really, really hurt. Yeah.
01:15:46
Speaker
And I know they're dire wolves. I will call them dogs. I don't care. I mean, yesterday, I kept calling the wolves. I mean, me yesterday, calling the wolves dogs. At first, I said, wait, no. That was rough because we had to kill them. I know, and I felt bad. But like, in the book, in, in, in Strahd camp, sorry, spoiler. Kind of. In the campaign, the wolves are bad. They will attack you because they are buddies with Strahd and Strahd likes testing you guys. Yeah. And I probably should have had, again, I totally misunderstood what level you guys were. So my- It was funny. It was funny. funny i I told my my dad this after, like right after I got this, I was like, I almost DBK'd everyone.
01:16:36
Speaker
I just take any damage. Yeah, you physically did. For real? Yeah, you didn't. But I literally almost killed not and Yesen's character. And I was about to cry. I was hearing about it. And I was like, does anyone have any healing? Yeah. I had the druid. Yeah. I think it was right when you said that. I was like, oh, I'm fudging. I'm going to end up fudging your roles. I did this badly. Yeah. um but Back to my point about Game of Thrones. There's a lot of nudity in Game of Thrones season one, especially yeah because that's how people were like, this is how we keep people's attention. ah Which watching, I was like, dude, can't we just have some clothes on? I'm trying to pay attention to the plot and your kitties are out, please. Please. I just want to get the plot. I'm interested. And I will say it is a good show. it's There's a lot of hard topics.
01:17:36
Speaker
But it is a good show up until season seven. Yeah, I yeah i am. What was that? One of the hardest, saddest scenes is Hodor's death. You know Hodor? one that else ho yeah i don't just says Hodor. Yeah, okay, I do know about him. Because again, I was on Tumblr when this was going on. And a lot of my mutuals would just watch that and reblog it. and so i yeah i know a lot about it without knowing basically his death what happens is throughout the whole series is his death is like a few few seasons from the end but throughout the whole thing you're watching all he says is hodor you grow to love hodor because he's just a simple guy and bran learns how to warg basically possess and he
01:18:27
Speaker
has to. He's in the past looking at things because it's a crazy storyline and I hate it honestly. Bran as the Raven was really annoying but he has he's in the past at the moment like mentally And they're getting attacked. Him and a few people in Hodor in physical real present day life are getting attacked. And they're like, you have to work into Hodor because his mind is simple enough he can ward into it, work into it. And so he's hearing this, like echoing into his brain while he's in the past. And he works into past Hodor. And
01:19:12
Speaker
the girl in like it's like opening up a link between present and past and so the girl uh in the party like in the group is screaming at Hodor to hold the door and so we watch young Hodor who talks repeatedly say hold the door as he's seizing and he slowly just he keeps seizing and his words become more slurred until all he's saying is hodor because he watched his death
01:19:48
Speaker
as he got clawed holding this door from all these skeletons. And it's so upsetting and it's so sad. It's so bad. that does happen It's one of the like deaths that hit me the hardest. yeah But I will say, if you watch anything, You should watch this one clip from Battle of the Bastards, where Jon Snow, ah basically what happens is, Battle of the Bastards is between Jon Snow and Sansa's husband, who was forced upon her and who forced himself upon her, ah who is a bad guy. Bad, bad guy. And yeah we hate him. Is it Robert or something?
01:20:38
Speaker
Huh? Was it Robert it or something? No. or God, no. No, no, no. She is with his name engaged to Joffrey in the beginning. yeah It's not Joffrey. It's Ramsey Bolton. That's the name. Oh, that's one. Yeah, that one. Yeah. So it's Jon Snow versus Ramsey Bolton and Jon Ramsay has his little brother Rick on. Rick on ends up dying. Shocker. ah Which stands anew would happen because like as soon as Ramsay got Rick on she knows him like she's like we're not getting him back. He's already dead basically.
01:21:12
Speaker
and he kills him in front of John. John runs towards him because Rickon's running towards him um because they're doing like a trade kind of a thing. So he's on his horse, running towards him. Rickon dies. He's in the middle of the battlefield alone when Rickon, not Rickon. Ramsay sends all of his men forward, push forward, you know go attack. All these horses are stampeding towards Jon Snow, who is alone. And it's just the shot of Jon pulling his sword from the scabbard and like preparing himself to fight as all of these horses storm towards him. I'll send you the clip after this. I actually think I've seen it because Tumblr. It's so imp impactful, dude. It's so good of just this man's, just his character.
01:21:58
Speaker
Yeah, I will fight until I die. And I don't care how many people I'm fighting. And like, just so much of like, I will protect my people. Yeah. And I love it so much. Sean Snow is amazing. Great character. And I can't wait to read the books. I have I don't have them yet. But I really want to wait until they're all out. But I know that's gonna be a long time and might never
Battle of the Bastards Analysis
01:22:23
Speaker
happen. Yeah. So I really want to read them though. ah But it's so Battle of the Bastards is such a good episode. It's crazy. Just yeah the emotion. It's so good. Anyway, yeah, but um I'm really into like film things. So i but while I watch a lot of Dylan is in trouble, who some of his videos, he does a lot of like,
01:22:48
Speaker
film analysis kind of a thing in commentary like most of its commentary but sometimes he'll throughout his videos go through and like ah pick out like film things and it's so interesting to watch and like learn it's so cool yeah no it sounds really interesting i i highly recommend this yeah i used to watch and not watch i took a couple film classes well not took a couple. I took one in high school. And I just like, loved learning about different film aspects. Like, it's so interesting.
Mortal Instruments Series Reflection
01:23:23
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It is like, directing choice and choice of shots and like,
01:23:29
Speaker
things you don't notice when you're watching but the second they're pointed out to you you're like oh my god that's so cool you know like Hitchcock's anything by Hitchcock absolutely blows me away sometimes it's just so now that I've started watching him and I got into like ah his film like an analysis kind of things that he's like he started doing them a little bit more since I started because like they're mixed in with his commentary so it's called a commentary but sometimes he analyzes ever since I started watching that when I would be watching shows and stuff I'm like this this is a good shot oh my god this is amazing yeah and oh my god he watched all of the after movies
01:24:10
Speaker
and they're it's so funny dude because he has a series he does um ah where he watches something until he hates himself it's so funny dude i highly recommend and what are the after movies again are those the after books after the harry styles fan picture oh yeah by anna tod yeah that those yeah they're so bad dude they're so bad I mean, the book or the movie? It's funny to watch. I've not read the books. they're It's all bad. Yeah. I highly recommend his videos on it though because they're so funny. They're so funny. He has ah this like little like stuffed animal thing that's Screamosaurus Rex that makes this horrible screaming noise when you squish it. It's so good. yeah It's so funny. I have to look into it. He actually just made a video. ah He does like beer in a movies where he explains like certain shows and like stuff.
01:25:09
Speaker
And that's like more in-depth analysis kind of a thing. And he did Mortal Instruments recently, which I'm really nervous to watch because I love the Mortal Instruments books. The first movie was pretty good. Like it stayed pretty true. I actually loved the movie and I was... It stayed pretty true. The only thing I would say is wrong with the movie is casting. ah For Jace and Clary, I did like their casting. Yeah, there was just I am a big Matthew Dario fan. So when he was Alec in the show, I was happy. But I also love Alec and Magnus that are the only reason like I would ever watch season one again of the show. I thought it was so bad. I thought Magnus was the same in the TV show and in the movie. I don't think so. But I'm not sure. It's been a long time. Yeah.
01:26:06
Speaker
I got yes done to watch part of season one, I think like a few episodes. Because I was like, you need to see how garbage this is. Yeah, because I for Christmas, um not this past Christmas, but the Christmas before I think I got him the infernal devices books and annotated all of them because they're my favorite. And so I was like, you have to read this series and this is where you can start, I guess, even though you should start with Mortal Instruments, but whatever. um And then I showed him some of the Shadowhunters show and I was like, it's so bad. You can't imagine how happy I was to hear this was coming out and the disappointment at watching it. yeah It was so bad. They went completely off book. It's, oh my God, it was horrible.
01:26:59
Speaker
yeah And so I'm nervous to watch that video about it because I don't want to be reminded of how garbage that TV show was. Yeah, no, I i watched a couple of clips because I was going to watch it because again, I was obsessed with the Shadowhunters. I was obsessed with ah the Mortal Instruments series. And then my sister is actually the one who got me to read them because she read Mortal Instruments first few and was obsessed. And so I was like, fine. She finally wore me down and I read them. And I was like, Oh my God, I love these. and I like flew past her and I was like, I'm reading all of this. My best friend in middle school, Brendan,
01:27:39
Speaker
different rhythm than the one that the one I talk about a lot that I knew in high school. He got me into it because he was like, because we were in our same sixth grade class and then he was like, you need to read these. He was like, I don't know. I'll read them. And then like in middle school or high school, he was like, you really need to read these, not middle school. In middle school. there was school Yeah, it was like, it was so good. My sister loved that we were in middle school at this point, she was obsessed because I didn't read them until seventh grade and she read them in six, like at the start of them.
01:28:15
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ah And in the cafeteria of our high so of our middle school, there were these big, the walls were windows on the one side, basically. And you could see like the top roof of the building, because it like extended next to us. And crows would hang out there, or like ravens or whatever would hang out there all of the time. And one character in the Mortal Instruments has like a raven. And so she was like obsessed and would love these Ravens. It was like, Oh my God, the Ravens, the Ravens. It was so funny. ah But yeah, and job got me
01:28:52
Speaker
yeah I hate me. I hate ducks because of Will Herondale. I will fully say that I hate ducks specifically because Will Herondale is afraid of them. And I will, I love them. I love Will Herondale. And so I hate ducks. sweat
01:29:09
Speaker
It's so good. I like si love it. Sorry, that is still a random thing is to have a character that hates ducks. I know, but it like makes sense. It does. And like, I love that he had a reason to like, they're cannibals if you give them the chance. I mean, chickens are like that too. Yeah, but ducks, you know. Yeah. do Well, Herondale hates ducks. And honestly, that is like, that book series is maybe the only time I have read a love triangle that actually had me invested in both love interests. And I also kind wanted them both. Yeah, I loved how how they I mean, I loved how Clindessa Claire
01:29:58
Speaker
Cassandra Clare. What was that? I don't know what you just said. Yeah, Cassandra Clare. love marha At the end, slight spoiler, but the books have been out for over a decade, I think ah for a long time. Yeah, for a long time. Um, I loved how at the end, oh my god, what's Gem? Was it Gem? Yeah. Yeah, Gem and Tessa get together. Yeah. It's like a few series later. Yeah. But they get together. Like she ends up with both of them. and i'm wondering
01:30:34
Speaker
you're living my dream except it's also so like this is the one thing of like when I annotated the books for yes then I was saying like, yeah, because you remind me of both gem and will at times. And I was like, because it's you know, it's where there's like, you are both of my dream men.
01:30:55
Speaker
Yeah, but I still have a lot of fictional book boyfriends don't tell him. He knows. Yeah, he has them too. It's fine. this Literally, it was so funny when I was like, telling him about my Lady Jane, because I was like, dude, you're gonna love this. It's bi panic central.
01:31:18
Speaker
It's very funny. We do that a lot. Yeah. But. Yeah. No, that ah that entire series. So so so good. Also, did you know I found out recently? I don't know if this will make you hate it or like it. It was originally a Guinea and Ron fan fiction. Oh. Yeah. Like, I think I've heard about that before. Yeah. And I'm like, I mean, it makes sense. But it does make sense with what happens. But like, to be fair, to be fair, the moral instruments series itself specifically is my least favorite. Yeah, I, I prefer the um
01:32:00
Speaker
the more the devices or infernal devices yeah infernal devices is my number one dark artifices is currently my number two because i haven't read magnus and alex books yet or the last hours i'm really behind on her books i am too i i've only read those two series i haven't had well the dark artifices are so good yeah it was such a twist for me was that the that is other pair that's like, in the car stairs. And it's okay, Emma car stairs. Yeah, and a black thorn. Yeah, Julian black thorn.
Themes of Family in Cassandra Clare's Works
01:32:40
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And it's so interesting, because she really switches up. So like, basically, in the moral instruments and the infernal devices, it's first few books, pining, yearning, whatever, they're maybe together, but still kind of not. And then at the very end of the final book, they have sex.
01:32:57
Speaker
that's usually the whole lineup she does. In the Dark Artifices, it's like first 10 chapters, they're banging. And then the drama comes and it's like, oh, we can't be together. oh yeah we have that They already have that love and they know they love each other and they just want to be together because they're parabatai, they can't. yeah Yeah, okay, yeah, because I think I read the first couple chapters or first chapter because it was at the end of Oh god i wanna say it was they had it at the end of as a bonus chapter at the end of the series is probably and it's so good it was it was good and then i was like
01:33:40
Speaker
I was going to read it. That is another one that if you read those you will cry. Yeah, because I was going to read it and then high school hit and I moved and then I stopped reading for a bit. I think there's a very clear improvement in her writing from Umbrella Devices to Dark Artifices just because of like the plot and like the pacing feels a lot better. And I love Infernal Devices because it's also like Regency kind of yeah Victorian times, 1800s. Yeah, so like each one. Okay, so like, Infernal Devices, that's obviously Victorian steampunk. But yeah, Insidia Bones also gave me steampunk, but still modern.
01:34:26
Speaker
I love that's what I liked about it is because like I think that this was that series was the first like urban fantasy because One thing about me is that that's all I read this urban fantasy. Yeah, and I just I don't know it it was very unique Probably when the first ones and then that's also what got me into steampunk that the yeah real devices and I also adore steampunk because yeah, who doesn't like magic and clockwork Yeah, it's so cool. I love the whole theming. Yeah. And demon pox. Hilarious. Yeah. But yeah, with a dark art thesis, it's a lot more of like,
01:35:04
Speaker
kind of focusing on like the magic-y bits and fae and stuff. like With the how it goes, like it's such like a family-focused, this is our little group, this is who we protect kind of a thing. And like we're looking out for each other and no one else. And it's so cute. And they're going through all this. Everyone's got like issues that they're dealing with. ah There is a Polly relationship, because the love triangle turns into Polly. uh okay which was really confusing to me because i the love triangle itself like how it starts was really weird but like i'm fine with it whatever they were side characters um well not i i'm okay with poly relationships i think that's great
01:35:50
Speaker
Great answer to love triangles. It was just that Some sides of the love triangle felt very weak kind of a thing. Yeah um Like that final connecting side felt very weak and rushed but like for the majority of the book like there's them struggling with their love for each other and taking care of the family there's one who's like they're twins and they're struggling to be their own person like one of them is struggling to be their own person and not having to stick next to this other person all the time and there's a new kid their age coming into the picture and that there's like a gay romance between them that's like hinted at and like trying to understand and like the one kid's autistic and it's like
01:36:38
Speaker
But they don't know that autism exists because that's not as a mundane thing. That's not a Shadowhunter thing. And it's so interesting just how much more character everyone had. Like everyone was fully fleshed out. a lot more, in my opinion, yeah in The Dark Artifices. And like you're rooting for every single one of the kids. yeah And it's so good. And when certain things happen, ah your heart is ripped out, dude. It's so, so painful. And like the cutest part is at the end of the books, it's family at the end of the day that makes everyone
01:37:21
Speaker
Like, that fixes things. That makes everything better. Because parabatai and everything, that's a whole problem. ah But at the end of the day, it's the family that brings them back to who they are. yeah And it's so cute. And I love those stories so much. I'm a sucker for a family-focused story.
Tease for Next Episode
01:37:42
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Sucker. No, that's, I also love those. And I don't think like single parents, like stuff like that, having some like the kid call you mom for the first time, like, I will be sobbing. Yeah.
01:38:01
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ah Yeah, that was Bridgerton. Those were our thoughts on ah specifically just Bridgerton. We didn't talk about anything else. Yeah. yeah
01:38:16
Speaker
like tangents are yeah unavoidable yeah but it's still fun hey we we talked about bridgeton and we gave some more um recommendations i think our next episode for bonus episodes is going to be discussing books that got us into writing oh i think that's a good idea Yeah. Oh, then I am going to be talking about Ellie Cott the entire time. Me too, dude. Me too. I love her books. I love her. She literally saved my life. She is my idol. She is what got me into reading. and she's got And once I met her in person, she's what got me into writing. Yeah. So that is your little ah little teaser for next bonus episode. We're not going to get into it because there will be nothing left. Yeah. but you It will be another three hour long video.
01:39:11
Speaker
Pretty much. It'd be a long and be a long one. yeah And we're trying to keep these to like an hour, hour and a half. So yeah yes so next time we'll be Ally Carter and getting into writing because we are depressed. yeah And that is the end. We're out. Bye. Yeah, bye.