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Glick's Comedy Lounge: Joseph Huisman
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Tonight on Glick's Comedy Lounge we're uneashing special guest Joseh Huisman! Expect laughs,stories,questionable life choices, and the kind comedy that keeps HR departments awake at night. Pull up a chair and join the chaos on The Nonsensical Network Glick's Comedy Lounge- Comedy unleashed
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Guests on the couch with wild tale to tell From the road, the stage, or a barroom, hell The crowd's getting loud and the stories get strange Every single night the chaos rearranges No scripts here, just the truth and the laughs And maybe a roast if you cross Glick's path Welcome to Glick's Comedy Lounge Where the jokes go wild and the laughs get loud
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Hey, welcome to Glick's Comedy Live.
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Introducing Joseph Hussman
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We're here for the comedy. And I am not a comedian by no means. I'm just a guy who hosts the show and gets to hang out with comedians. Speaking of, we got Mr. Joseph Hussman in the house, and I hope I said your last name right.
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I meant to ask you, but I've given up on getting anybody's names right. Close enough. Hussman. i used I used to open my open mic sets by saying the great thing about having my name the name that I have is that I get introduced as a different person every time. so Nice. Hey, that works out if you got multiple personalities. see that Exactly.
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Which I do. Look.
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And one thing I've learned during this show about comedians is that every one of them so far has multiple mental illnesses. whether but So it might be why I get along with them so well, because I, too, I just I don't get up on a stage and tell jokes in front of people. i i hang out in my room behind the camera and and hang out with the funny people.
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Well, trauma definitely fuels comedy. There's no doubt about that. So this is, this is true. Uh, want to say thank you for taking some time out of your evening, coming up and hanging out with me tonight. Definitely appreciate that.
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Um, and, uh, letting everybody, you know, out there in the, uh, the podcast world and, uh, the, the, uh, the internet lands, get to know a little bit more about you and your comedy and everything like that. Um, I know we were talking a little bit backstage and, um,
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you said you know you're you're still kind of, I don't know how it works in stand-up years, if you're still ah a youngster in the in the world, or if you know you you are considered maybe not quite a rookie anymore, but how long have you been doing comedy?
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It's just coming up on three years. I think I started in August, so almost three years, and I would say that still pretty rookie. I mean, it takes a lot of reps on stage to get good and a lot of practice. So yeah, I'm still on the infant stages, I think.
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I think it just depends on how you look at it and what should, you know, what your personal level of success is. You know, everybody, everybody kind of has their own level. Like, Hey, you know, I, I did it. um um I got up and I,
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was in a theater that's success. Well, I think, I think I've, I think I've had a pretty good run for the time that I've been doing it, but, um, yeah, I mean, most of the really good audiences I've been in front of, I created myself, you know, by selling tickets to shows and stuff. So, um,
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I guess I could put myself as a headliner and then just go out there and bomb and make a crappy show. But no, I try to take the whole spot, leave the the real funny people to do the longer sets. Yeah. the you're you're You're definitely funer than funnier than I am. You you go ahead. I'll do dude do five minutes. um What was it that decided to guide you into this direction to do stand-up?
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So I actually, i had a good friend that actually produced a pretty big comedy show that tours all over the country. And she convinced me to take this comedy class.
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And I remember when I took this class, one of the things the instructor was talking about is that if you want to get proficient at doing stand-up comedy, you've got to get out to four to six open mics a week. You've got to watch comedy. You've got to write every
Comedy as an Obsession
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day, all that. And i thought, okay, so I guess I'll just take this class and be done with it.
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Um, but something I don't know there was a little bit of a bug where I just I I convinced myself that I was going to do a hundred a hundred times on stage before I gave up and um because I have a habit of of starting new things and going in a hundred percent and then quitting a week later and so I I committed to doing a hundred times on stage and uh, and I just I don't know it just kind of became an obsession and I just couldn't stop so That's I mean, that's I think that's sometimes how it goes with people. yeah i yeah like
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um Lord knows it happened to me. i always wanted to do this kind of stuff, podcasting and whatnot. i was like, reached a point where i wass just like, fuck it, I'm going to do it. Whatever happens happens. And now on days that I'm not doing a show, I almost feel like I'm like cheating on a girlfriend or something.
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Yeah, I tell people all the time, if i didn't if I didn't produce shows, I probably would have quit by now. But at any given time, I have 20 shows in the future that I am producing. So it's like I kind of have to go. yeah i don't really have an opportunity to quit. so Yeah, I mean, with being being so you know relatively new to the world, you know and and you just brought up, you're producing shows and not just a show.
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You're doing on multiple shows full-blown shows i you you jumped head first into the defense yeah it it was it was kind of an interesting thing because like uh this uh second chance comedy was you know it's a purpose-driven comedy show that i started doing and uh and ever since i started doing that like these other venues somehow i just got connected with this you know this random place that wants to do a monthly show and i'm like okay i'll do that so i I do the second chance comedy shows, but then it's I also do a bunch of just like local regular standup comedy shows as well. So and just it just kind of fell together. I didn't even really try. so
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some just Don't you love when that happens? It makes your life so much easier. so I told my therapist too. I told her, I said, you know, I've never felt more driven by the universe to do a specific thing than I have with this second chance comedy.
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So I said, I said, well, why why is it so hard? And she said, well, Joe, if it was easy, you wouldn't learn anything with it. And I'm like, fuck you. And I found a new there, but no, I'm just kidding. But it, you know, it was just I want it to
Second Chance Comedy Initiative
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be easy. I just want to get, you know, like so much work. ah I mean, it was easy. Everybody would do it.
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Yeah, that's true. Well, speaking of that, when When we first started talking, when you first reached out to me, that was something that I i seen and instantly yeah i didn't even didn't even really look at anything else. I just I went to the website and I looked at it and I was like, oh, I got to have this guy on.
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So, you know, second chance comedy. do You want to kind of like let let everybody know what that is exactly and and where that comes from, like where where you came up with the idea to do that? Yeah, I'm so I'll just share a little bit about myself. I, I, um I felt like I'm going into a standup set. There's a little bit about myself. No, but not yeah for, for the, for my late teens and most of my twenties, I got into drugs pretty heavily was a pretty major drug addict. And, and when I started doing comedy, I just had some topical, just dumb jokes about my past drug addiction.
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And a lot of times I'd get booked on these shows and then people would come up to me afterwards and start, Hey, to be like that's a great set. Like, you know, and they start telling me about their journey with drug addiction or or alcoholism or whatever it might be.
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And so after I kept hearing this enough times, I just kind of had this light bulb moment of like, maybe there's a show that we can do around this. And so, um, I started floating the idea out to a few people that I knew. And, you know, lot of people were given really positive feedback about the idea. And then I found a,
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a few comedians that wanted to be a part of what I was trying to put together. And I booked a venue and um built a lineup and started promoting the show. And it just kind of took off from there. so i just kind of And it and it it was interesting because like i i set aside a certain amount of cash and I said, okay, I can afford to lose this much money as long as that doesn't go down. And so I started booking these venues just kind of thinking, okay, if I get enough money back, then I can book another venue.
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And then I just kind of lost track of all that stuff and just kept booking all these venues. um and And some have hurt, you know, like, I mean, there's been some shows I've lost a couple of thousand bucks. There's been other shows where I've made a little bit of money. You know, it's a it's been ah it's been an up and down battle for sure. but Up and down roller roller coaster. and the The comedians and stuff that you book on these shows, are they recovering or just are they like?
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Is this from the area, you from the community, or do you try to? So I would say that um I didn't really know. i mean, when I first started doing this, I was still starting to get to know people from the community. So the um one of the actually the the two main headliners that I booked, I didn't know either of them before I started doing this show.
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um But yeah, I was looking for people that not only had a history with um either they were an addict themselves or maybe they grew up in a house that had a lot of addiction issues. And so one, they needed to have some background, but also a willingness to talk about it through their material.
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You know, I get a lot of people that reach out to me and they're like, Hey, I'm sober, put me on your show. And it's like, then they just come and do their normal, you know, sex jokes or whatever. And it's like, okay, that's not, that's not what we're doing here. You know, we're trying to actually build a show themed around addiction and mental health. And so, Yeah, but to answer your question, I yeah i started ah to find more comedians over time. I remember i was on a show with one of the guys that headlines my shows. His name is AJ Finney.
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And I was just on a book show that he was on, and and I was watching his set, and i'm like, oh, my God, this is perfect for what we're doing. So I talked to him after, and and now he's been on probably 50 of them or 40 of them or something. So, yeah, just good to you got ah You've got a ton of shows under your belt now.
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I mean, yeah i think there's been about 65 second chance comedy shows and i think i've produced about 145 shows so that's produce a comedy show it's it'll be easy yeah well hopefully it's gotten easier there definitely is some things that are routine now the problem with that is some things some things You know, they've become so routine that I don't want to do them because the monotony, you know, so it's like, oh crap, I've got to put these promo posters together. i hate doing this. I'm so tired of doing this. You know, it's just the same thing.
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No, I, I totally understand that. I understand that part where things just like, ah, i so I still keep saying anybody out there listening, I am looking for an unpaid intern that'll do all social media and all my guest booking. That's an unpaid internship. Unpaid being the key word. I hadn't even thought about the unpaid route. Maybe that's what I should do. Try to find someone.
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I will say my, my daughter, she's 17 and, uh, I was trying to make some promo videos for my ads and stuff. And, uh, And she was like, hey, can I try making one? And I'm like, sure. you know and I gave her access to my Canva and everything.
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And she came back with this video. And I was expecting it to be one of those situations where it's like, oh, you know that's a really good try, but I don't think I can quite use it. No, it was beautiful. like She put this amazing. I'm like, can you make me another one? you know and then ah And then in fact, after I had a couple of them rolling in ads and stuff, I had a show producer reach out to me. And she's like, your new promo videos are fire. I'm like, yeah, my daughter made them.
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She actually paid my daughter to make a promo video for her too. so and but But I can't get her to commit to it. You know, like I'm like, you could make money. i I'll pay you to do this stuff for me. you know Yeah.
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I'll pay you. Other people will pay you. my be My oldest daughter, she just recently started a new TikTok page. She's starting to get into doing nails and art and stuff like that.
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And she's like, Dan, will you share my page and stuff like on your podcast and stuff like that? And I'm like, yeah. And then I thought about it more. And I'm like, you little shit. I asked you if you would share my podcast and stuff out there. And you said it was late.
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You didn't want to be revised, though. Now you want to come to me. What the hell? Good.
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yeah Some of your stuff is embarrassing, Dad. it No, no, that's, that's, ah I like that, that the, the idea of the second chance comedy, you know, me, myself personally being somebody who's dealt with alcoholism and, and at a young age in my late teens, early twenties. And then, you know, just kicking it on my own. Thankfully I didn't have to, like pay somebody to help me. or go but I've tried therapy a couple times, but usually they get their little their little pad out and it's like, we're going to prescribe you this, this, and I'm like, nope, I'm out. See ya. I'm good. but that's
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That's a big reason kind of behind the show is like it it if we can if we can share a story on stage through comedy and somebody in the audience has a relatable experience,
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And we can kind of connect and laugh about that together. It kind of you know chips away at some of that shame and stigma, because I think that's the problem with mental health and addiction or any of these topics is there's so much shame associated with it that people don't get the help that they need or they're afraid to ask for help.
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um You know, it's like if you're going to the gym to work out, people are like, good for you. But if you say you're going to therapy, they're like, what's wrong with you? You know, and it's It should be yeah should be the same thing. should be good for you. go you know, get stronger, get better, build confidence, you know. But no, it's it's always like the stigma around anything where you might need mental health help or something.
Comedy and Mental Health
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No, exactly. And that's something that i've I've been a big, I've spoken a lot on. We used to actually do a show on here called Men Caring for Men. It was a men's mental health show.
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which was great. I loved it. I've been dancing around the idea, doing another mental health show. It's just finding the right the right person or the right people to do the show with. But I think not only that, but when you can have somebody on stage, it's going to resonate for people who may be watching and going through this stuff because you have somebody who's literally getting up on stage in front of, you know, God knows how many people and opening it up and being vulnerable, I'm assuming, even though you're you're using humor and and comedy and putting that spin on it, but you're still ultimately...
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opening yourself up and showing a lot of vulnerability. i mean, you, you got to, cause it's, it's not like addiction is just a ah fun, joyful thing. You know, if you, pa through it you know, how much of a a nightmare it is to try to kick those habits and stuff like that.
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Well, that's like one of the, one of the guys that headlines my shows, he, ah he, he grew up in an abusive household and he talks about that as in his jokes, you know, and I think it's, It's really ah and an art to be able to take something as dark as abuse and make it funny enough that people like it's it's it's not, you know, it's it's a lot of comedians will try to do it. You know, like they'll try to make jokes about how they were abused as a child or something. But to do it in a way that doesn't make people feel sorry for you is is a whole different level.
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Yeah, don't I don't want you to cry. I want you to laugh. yeah Don't feel bad for me. You know, it happened. It's done. It's over with. Unfortunately, there's nothing more I can do about it. But I can heal by telling these jokes and hopefully help somebody else heal in the same process, you know, or maybe help somebody get help who may be living with that situation, you know, currently. Or at minimum, at least maybe somebody might not feel as alone in the world.
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yeah you know I think that's one of the toughest things outside of the stigma is, you know, a lot of people feel the only person in the world
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Your audio is breaking up really bad. I'm not sure if that's on my side or yours. It might be on my side. i didn't I didn't hear the last 30 seconds of what you said there.
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Probably something really profound, I bet, right? Probably, probably. No, I was just saying, like, when you're going through the, you know, dealing with mental health issues or addictions, a lot of times we we feel like we're the only ones that are that are dealing with it. So,
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yeah It's just that mindset that we have, even though you know we know better that other people are going through it all at the same time. just don't realize it Or we don't want to talk about it. Yeah, that was ah one of my favorite quotes is, and I can't remember it exactly, but it's something like, if we all got together in a circle and confessed our sins with each other, we would laugh at the lack of originality.
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And I think it's such a powerful thing to think about that, you know, because so often we think we're the only ones that have these dark thoughts or we're the only ones that have these experiences. But then sometimes just sharing it with somebody else, they're like, yeah, me too.
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And then suddenly it's no no longer shame, it's connection. And it's it's something we can build on. and um And that's ultimately like what we're trying to do with the show is just bring those topics to the stage. But we also want it to be a comedy show. You know like that's the tough balance. It's like, how do you How do you do this in a way, but it's still when people come, they just think they attended a comedy show. you know like i don't I don't want them to feel preached to. I don't want them to feel at some sort of a 12 step meeting or anything like that. I want it to be a fun comedy show, but also something that they can take something away from and maybe a different perspective on addiction or mental health. and yeah i mean Yeah. I was going to say again, jumping head first into the deep end, you took one of the toughest subjects.
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out there to talk about like I'm gonna make this funny ah you know i never thought about it like that before but and but I probably wouldn't have started it if I had thought of that yeah it's like it's like you know playing a video game for the first time and you know nothing about the game and you just bought it and you put it in and you put it on expert level but Like the hell of it. Just figure it out as we go. No, love it. um
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and For anybody who, and it well we'll repeat this again throughout the night, but for anybody who wants more information or to see what upcoming shows you got coming up, is it where can they go to find that at?
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Yeah, I have a website called secondchancecomedy.com. It's second is spelled out. So yeah, secondchancecomedy.com. It lists all of our upcoming shows, links to tickets, um has some testimonials from past shows uh links to some media coverage that the show has gotten all sorts of things so yeah i'd like to i could get the website refreshed one of these days but uh can't get my daughter to find the time to do it where um where where are you uh based out of i'm in denver just north of denver so and we've done shows uh up and down the front range here um
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You know, we've done several up in Fort Collins, a few down in Colorado Springs and then around Denver and local suburbs. And then we last year, we started to get out on the road a little bit. We did a show up in Laramie County Community College up in Cheyenne, Wyoming.
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And then we did a couple shows in Gehrig, Nebraska, a couple shows down in South Colorado, Pagosa pagosa Springs in Durango. And then it's kind of, yeah. so And then we just got back. um We did a tour with ah a guy I know up in Wyoming that is running this show called Comedy That Cares. And so Second Chance Comedy was a part of that series.
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And so we did three shows up in Wyoming ah about a month ago, month and a half ago. So yeah, we're starting to branch out a little bit. I'd like to get on the road more. um I've been trying to find comedians in different parts of the country because I know, as I mentioned earlier, some shows we make a little bit of money, most shows we lose a bunch of money. So like adding travel costs to that is just not feasible right now. But um so I've been trying to broaden my my reach a little bit and try to find comedians in other parts of the world that would want to be a part of this.
Social Media and Promotion
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um But it it's hard to find. It's hard to find people that fit what I'm trying to do here. um You know, i I'll never forget when I first started putting a show together, I was talking to this comedian outside.
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One of the shows that we were just on together and i was telling him about he's like, yeah, he was like I've been sober for about 12 years it's just like Okay, I'm not sure that we're seeing this as the same thing like and I don't have any judgment like I don't care like I mean it's but I kind of wish that I could smoke a little pot without it putting me in a bad place but um so i don't have any judgment about that but at the same time it's like you know, it's not quite what I'm looking for, you know? so No, exactly. That's what, you know, that's why think I like, Oh, I don't think I'll ever be like 100% sober. I still drink, but I drink on Saturday nights. That's about the only time I drink, you know?
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Um, but yeah, no, I mean, and that would be really cool. I mean, it would make it so much easier for you, know, if you like branch out and said, you know, Hey, I'd like to put this show together in, you know, Florida, for instance.
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Um, And this is what I'm looking for. And you're able to get a lineup of local comedians there. And all you got to is just take yourself out there. It'd be so much easier and and a lot easier on the on the pocketbook as well, you know on the old wallet.
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um And I think it's a great thing. you know I always bring up with my guest the the necessary evil that is social media. You know, we hate it. But unfortunately, as an entertainer, it can be your best friend.
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Well, I will say, too, if there are comedians listening the show that that are interested in what we're doing, there is actually a link on my website to submit to be on the show or you can send me a message through the website, whatever.
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but um but, yeah, I think I think the hardest thing, you know, a couple things like i I want people that actually look at what we're doing and think, hey, that's cool. I want to be a part of that.
00:28:18
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Now, as we were talking before the show started, you know, comedians, we're all whores for mic time, right? Like, it's just like, yeah, I'll say whatever you want. Just give me a microphone, right? And so, like, there's a lot of people that that just want to get booked on a show.
00:28:31
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And I'll tell them, like, what I'm looking for. And they're like why i can write some material about, you know, drinking. it's like, okay, that's not really what I, you know like, if you're not already talking about this stuff, it's probably not a fit for you.
00:28:44
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Because like, if you're just going to put a set together just to be on my show, well, that's not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for people that like, I mean, the the one headliner that I have is very passionate about this topic. And, and when I first talked to him, we talked for like three hours. He was super excited because it was exactly what he wanted to do with this comedy.
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And that's what I'm looking for. are People that like want to use comedy to actually do something other than just make people laugh. Like, you know, it's comedy with a purpose. So. Yeah, no, I mean, and, you know, and that's the old saying, you know, laughter is the best medicine.
00:29:17
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yeah It's cliche and it's it's it's kind of goofy, but it's true. I mean, it's the same thing, you know, a music is for the soul. I mean, it heals the soul, you know, like laughter and music go hand in hand. And, you know, like it meant to help your mental health. I mean, shoot, we all have days where it's like, oh, I'm just in a,
00:29:37
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grumpy mood for no reason and uh you know either i'm gonna listen to music or i'm gonna find something funny on tv or on the radio or on on the internet that i want to you know just to lighten my help lighten my mood so um but at the same time like i said mental health being something that's near and dear to my heart what's up scorpio um um i love I love this. And that was instantly like, oh, I got to get Joseph on. i got i got to chat with me about you Second Chance Comedy. Again, you guys check it out, secondchancecomedy.com.
00:30:11
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And if you need any of my comedian friends that are out there, you know, it's anybody would be interested, Joseph up. We're losing you again, Glick.
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Every night, telling you.
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The great thing about it is even though it screws up on here when I'm live, when I download the audio, it somehow comes through crystal clear. but Like, StreamYard does their own recording, so hopefully.
00:30:48
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But, yeah, like I said, any comedians out there, go to the website. Or if you're not, do you want to find out where the shows are? Go check it out so you guys can see it. I'd like to dive more into your your your comedy, um like your style.
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are you Are you kind of a storyteller or are you more of going hit you with a whole bunch of jokes, one right after another? yeah i yeah I guess i would be I would probably be considered more of a storytelling comedian. um It's usually, you know, I i i try I mean, like it started because I was talking about real experiences I had.
00:31:23
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um But yeah, i've i've it's funny because I do have a lot of ideas for like one-liner jokes, but like, it's hard to like weave those in with the style that I do. But yeah, typically it is, I try to have a set that, that tells some sort of a story. It has some sort of an arc and, um, you know, I've got a little bit talking about my, my childhood and then I go into my addiction and then I kind of finish it up with like the therapy that I'm in today because it all kind of ties together.
00:31:52
Speaker
Um, but yeah, I, I think my biggest area for where I need to improve is really finding ways to get more laugh lines along that story and and find other areas to dive into to share more about my past but but yeah sorry to answer your question I would say yes storytelling comics them I um i've said it before i'll probably say it several more times I think there's a ah special art when it comes to comedians that are storytellers and that are are good at it because
00:32:23
Speaker
Unfortunately, you know, today we live in a society of 15, 30 second attention spans.
00:32:33
Speaker
and And to get up on you know on stage and and be able to tell a story and and keep the audience attention, you know, keep them engaged is an art anymore. I mean, it's always been an art and comedy to be able to tell stories, but i think even more today and in our society with the attention
Hussman's Comedy Style
00:32:53
Speaker
spans um that being ah an attention span of a goldfish for most people it is funny like i've got some short reels that i'll post on like instagram or tiktok and stuff and and sometimes i'll see like one reel get a bunch of views but then if i go and look at the viewer stats it's like most people dropped off after five or ten seconds it's like okay so
00:33:15
Speaker
You didn't even watch it. You didn't even get the payout at the end of the day. You didn't get the punchline or anything. ah yeah so there's There's some comedians, and I'm not mad at them for it. i'm Actually, I love how they do it, that I've that i've ah you know booked or had on their show, and they put those reels up, and then they purposely cut it off right before the punchline.
00:33:41
Speaker
I'm like, oh, you're sort a bitch.
00:33:46
Speaker
you know i that's it I wonder if people do that because they think that they're like that way somebody will come to their show and buy a ticket. I don't i don't know. yeah i don't know. Maybe that or maybe it'll hopefully drive engagement to where they're like commenting, you know, hey, what, you know, what, you know, where's the, where's the finish? What's the payout? You know?
00:34:09
Speaker
Well, the one that gets me is people that post reels where they don't get any laughs. And I'm like, I really think, um yeah, it's really interesting because like you see, you see this a lot where especially like local comedians and stuff, but even some that I've never even seen, but they'll post reels all the time where they're not getting any laughs.
00:34:29
Speaker
And i just wonder if there's like a um like a disconnect from reality that's happening there where they think they did really well. i don't I just don't i don't understand that the thought process behind it. like Why would you post a video of you doing stand-up comedy without any laughter? harry I'm posting a video of me failing doing this thing? like i don't you know well Sometimes there's that mindset out there that, day you know and I've known people personally that are like this, they'll go up on stage and do two minutes and most of the crowd is going,
00:35:07
Speaker
what the fuck is even happening? Like what the hell? And then they come off stage and like, I fucking killed it. I was hilarious. It was like, no, people wanted to unalive themselves. If you didn't, if you went there for another minute, like it was bad.
00:35:23
Speaker
thats i saw a post recently in some comedy group where somebody was talking about, how do you guys get audio from your videos? Like from your shows? Cause you know, I've had shows where done really well, but the phone doesn't pick up any, any laughter. And I'm like,
00:35:37
Speaker
I have used multiple different phones and cameras from all different angles of all kinds of weird rooms. I have never had an issue getting audience feedback. like Maybe you're not getting the feedback you think you're getting. think Maybe that's what's going on here. A little delusional. I forget the word. you're You're delusional. No, I mean, and and and we live in a great world today where technology is our best friend.
00:36:03
Speaker
you can add in laughing sitcoms have been doing it for years they have laugh tracks that's what i'm gonna start doing start weaving in that old i don't if you watch monty python back in the day but the the old women in the crowd kind of clap i'm gonna start weaving that and and into my reels and yeah Hell, we even right here on the net, we have laugh tracks in our in our media files that I can click and play on ah on a whim. with Laugh tracks, boo tracks, you know, clapping noises. Like, we can do it all. Just click on a button. Yeah.
00:36:39
Speaker
i tell you it does make me wonder though because when i think okay if they think they're getting laughter when they're not getting laughter maybe i'm not getting the laughter i think i'm getting maybe i'm delusional too and there's other people out there thinking why does joe keep posting reels on instagram when he's not getting any laughter maybe yeah hey yeah maybe uh you know it's it's hard to say but uh no i mean ah And again, you know, the great thing about comedy is not everybody's going to get it. But, you know, I think there are a lot of especially younger comedians that are coming up that have a little bit of delusionalness where they'll get up to an open mic and think they kill it or, you know, which is it's a great confidence to have.
00:37:25
Speaker
You know, I mean, I say it all the time. Joe Rogan ain't got shit on me. I mean, I know Joe Rogan's the godfather of podcasting, but I got to have some kind of confidence and be like, I could go toe-to-toe with Joe Rogan. good night No, I'm sitting in my bedroom and he gets $100-plus million dollars a year and is in a state-of-the-art studio. But...
00:37:49
Speaker
At least you don't have half the country hating you though. There's that. Not quite, not yet. what We're working on it. When you've got stand-up comedians working your name into jokes all the time, like that's that that's a level of success, right?
00:38:06
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. That's what I joke around all the time, that Joe Rogan is my arch nemesis. He has no idea. He doesn't know yet.
00:38:18
Speaker
I think I see him on the list of listeners right now. out there. What's up, guy doing? I think I'm worried about him. There's going to be a day that Joe Rogan's going to pop into my comments, and I'm probably going to shit a brick. I
00:38:35
Speaker
i had somebody spoofing Matt Reif the other day, liking some of my stuff on Facebook. I was like, Matt Reif comedy, like your post. I'm like, and it's like R-L-F-E instead of R-I-F-E, and I'm like, okay.
00:38:47
Speaker
Which, honestly, i I would rather fake Matt Reif than real Matt Reif liking my stuff, because I really just don't. have a lot of respect for Matt, right? But yeah, we've, we've, we've talked about him a time or two. I, this, this, this, I guess, I don't know. It's probably been around forever, but it seems like a new thing in comedy, the crowd work, you know, like is his crowd work good? Yeah.
00:39:16
Speaker
His actual standup, in my opinion, again, my opinion, I don't think his standup is any good. I think it's trash. Yeah. It's very sophomoric. it's like It's like for 12 to 14-year-olds.
00:39:29
Speaker
Yeah, and in high school girls. Yeah, yeah exactly. But, I mean, his his crowd work is great. there's a there's a There's a comedian out there that I love, and i you know if he ever came to town, I'd be i'd be there in a heartbeat, Michael Blaustein.
00:39:46
Speaker
And his crowd work is phenomenal. I think he's probably one of the best to do it right now. Again, this is just my opinion. And his his stand-up is really good, too. So he'll do you know a 45-minute set and then 15 minutes of crowd work at the at the end.
00:40:02
Speaker
you know And it's both good. i think you know But i don't I don't understand that concept because I think as a fan, and and you're on stage, so I'd love to get your opinion on this. As a fan, it kind of ruins comedy to a certain degree. Because when you go see a show,
00:40:20
Speaker
you always have three or four jerk offs in the crowd, if not more, that feel like they have to be a part of the show because of every time you go on YouTube or Facebook or TikTok, you see comedians doing crowd work.
00:40:33
Speaker
Well, there's a lot of people out there that believe interacting with the comedians is what comedians want. In fact, me and and one of ah one of the headliners for my show, we had gone to a show And we were standing outside and some random guy was talking to us and he was telling us about why he's such a great audience member for comedy shows because he, you know, he yells stuff out and stuff. And we're like, they don't like that. Comedians don't want you to do that. like, no, but I do it really good. I'm really good. Does they like having me there? I'm like, no, they don't. like yeah it's not
00:41:08
Speaker
And I do think that a lot of people do see like the viral clips of the crowd work and then they want to be a part of that. And so, they they make all these reels of them saying, you know, asking the, you know, where are you from? What kind of work do you do? Like hoping they're going to get their viral moment on on the internet.
00:41:25
Speaker
Honestly, i i don't really, I don't really force crowd work and I don't really like crowd work. Like I've been to shows where the the headliner does 35 minutes of crowd work. And it's like, basically you're just having a conversation with these four people while the rest of the audience feels left out. Like that's not,
00:41:44
Speaker
That's not what I mean. Like I was pissed at this one headline. I'm like, this sucks. This is the worst thing ever because yeah, for those four people up front, you're having a lot of fun. The rest of us, we're just waiting for you to tell jokes, you know? And so, um, I, I'm not a fan of it, but I do think there's ah a natural, like a way to bring people into the jokes a little bit without making it a crowd work show,
Open Mics and Storytelling
00:42:08
Speaker
you know? So, um,
00:42:11
Speaker
Yeah, it's but I'm not a fan of crowd work. Like whenever somebody talks about like practicing crowd work, I'm like, that's crowd work to me should be something that when you get comfortable on stage, there's a natural element of crowd work that kind of starts to bleed into your comedy. That's kind of how I see it.
00:42:27
Speaker
But to like be like, I want to practice and get really good at crowd work. Like to me, that that doesn't make sense. I don't know why people do that. No, it's, I don't know. Like I said, it's like you said, those four, because the rest of the crowd can't hear those people in the front row. They hear what they're saying. What do you going to do? Repeat everything they say. right, well, I'm going to head on out and ask for my money. You know, I had a personal experience, um, at a comedy show.
00:42:54
Speaker
Uh, one of my favorite comedians is, uh, Christopher Titus. i've I've liked him since I was a kid. Um, I just relate to the guy a lot with a lot of things and him and his girlfriend did a show the funny bone locally here.
00:43:10
Speaker
And she was telling a joke and I didn't think that I was loud enough for her to hear me. I just said, hell yeah. And then like you said, that natural flow where she called me out,
00:43:24
Speaker
You know, we had our little interaction. And then throughout the night, she when she was doing her set, she would come back to me occasionally because all she wanted was the hell yeah. yeah so even when Christopher Titus came out, um first thing he said was, where's the hell yeah guy?
00:43:43
Speaker
But throughout his show, it was a natural thing, like. I'm going to keep floating to you. And it was the last thing I was just like, no, i'm just I'm just here to see you be funny. though i don't want to be a part of the show.
00:43:55
Speaker
But it was a cool experience because it was one of my favorite comedians you know that I've been watching a good majority of my life. know so But afterwards, I was like, ah so my friend, i was like, oh, I did not want to be a part of this show.
00:44:11
Speaker
We should have sat in the back and not the front row. Well, and there definitely are some some interesting and that's I mean, like you, you we talked earlier before the show about about politics, like, I don't know, i don't I don't remember her name, but there was that one that one clip going around of the woman, the comedian who someone threw a beer at them.
00:44:34
Speaker
uh and uh and she actually she they they threw a beer at her and she picked up the beer and took a drink of it well that clip went viral and she actually got on like jimmy fallon or something one of those late night shows because of that clip but yeah right crowd interaction can get you famous i guess yeah other right i well and and like you said you know i think i think anymore everybody's looking for that viral moment yeah yeah like they're waiting for some jerk off in the crowd to do something or you know whatever the case may be, any more they want that that that one minute reel, that, you know, whatever that blows up. But it kind of takes away from, again, as a fan, not as a comedian, but as a fan, I feel like it kind of takes away from the, you know, the comedians that are out there that are just like, hey, um you guys paid to see me. i Nobody paid to see, you know, the three stooges in the front row. Yeah.
00:45:30
Speaker
Well, what's even worse is when you get a comedian that like picks on somebody in the audience for no reason. Like now you're like alienating this person that paid money to come see you.
00:45:41
Speaker
You're making them feel like a jerk and getting laughter at their expense. Like what? That's bullying. You know, that's the same thing you do in high school when you pick on the the weaker kids, you know, and it's like, what the hell did I do? Exactly. Yeah.
00:45:56
Speaker
and But yeah, like going back to Matt Reif, you know, like, I mean, his whole shtick, and he's a good looking guy that gets old ladies to say titties, you know, like, oh, look at, you know, like, that's really, it's so, it's very juvenile, I think, his level of comedy.
00:46:10
Speaker
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not a huge, I've never really been a big fan of his, you know, it was, I guess it was a a fun novelty act. you know, he had his 50 minutes now. you know, now now it's time to, but now he's popping up in movies and shit. So. so But I don't think, I don't think he's going to, as big as he is, you know, like, I don't think he's ever going to go down in fame. Like, like, you know, some of the big names, like he's never going to be a Richard Pryor or a, you know,
00:46:48
Speaker
or or even even uh uh don't know i'm just drawing a blank lewis ck for example i mean lewis ck did everything he could to get himself cancelled he's still a huge name you know like hill i don't think matt reif will ever be like 20 years from now won't be remembered like some of those bigger names even though he is a big comedian he's gonna just fade into the distance like looks like that now ah no and Not a huge fan, no. No, that guy, not a huge fan.
00:47:18
Speaker
I think it's kind of like comparing, like, you know, like Led Zeppelin will still be played on the radio 50 years from now, but Taylor Swift will be forgotten about, you know? It's kind of that.
00:47:32
Speaker
Yeah, at some point, we know Taylor Swift will be forgotten about. You started breaking up again there. I don't know if there's...
00:47:41
Speaker
At point, there's a little bit of music that forgotten about. Yeah. Okay. um I'll say it all over the place.
00:47:57
Speaker
When you first started, did or do you still do open mics? What are your your thoughts and feelings on open mics? Yeah, i think I think open mics are like, in fact, um I think open mics are a very important part of getting better at standup. Um, I started going to, I tell people all the time, there was this one local mic here that I used to go to every Saturday night, just because I knew I was going to bomb. I knew it was going to be a horrible experience, but what it did was forcing myself to get up there week after week.
00:48:31
Speaker
It helped me build that muscle to not worry. So like, I didn't depend on the laughter as much and it got me a lot more comfortable on stage. i think it I think open mics are a critical part that a lot of people miss. um you know It's really easy to like kind of get the basics and then get a niche audience where pretty much anything you say in front of that audience is going to work.
00:48:55
Speaker
But then you take that same set, you go to just a normal comedy show, and and you bomb miserably because you haven't learned how to work with different crowds, different environments, different settings. Like, I mean, even, even the second chance stuff that I do, like I do my, my whole bit at a second chance show, it does really well. I do that same bit in front of a normal crowd.
00:49:18
Speaker
Not so good. Right. Because that's not an audience that has like, they're not people in recovery. They're not people that care about what I'm talking about. So, so how do i how do i adjust to different crowds, different settings? And a lot of that,
00:49:31
Speaker
is muscles that you build from reps on stage. And I think, um, you know, it's, it's really important to go to open mics, to keep doing those reps, not for the laughter, not to like, just to get more comfortable standing on stage, letting these words come out of your mouth, because that's, what's going to help those jokes kind of evolve into tighter jokes.
00:49:52
Speaker
Um, you know, it's really easy to stand up in front of a, you know, if I was standing in front of a bunch of dads and talking about my kids being stupid you know that's going to be an easy win but like how do I how do I I'm kind of rambling I got way off the question here but uh but i did it it it helps you build that muscle that helps to figure out how to get things to work in different types of environment instead of just going to the environment that's set up for you perfectly um because yeah second chance comedy shows are like shooting fish in a barrel you know like because people are there they have
00:50:27
Speaker
They can relate to the material. My stuff is going to work there. But if I go to a brewery show and start talking about my crack addiction, can I make it funny in a brewery? That's a whole different skill set. Um, but I, I do think reps are what builds those muscles. I think like anything else, if you're a painter, you're going to paint a million paintings before one starts to look good. Right. It's the same thing with comedy. And I think open mics give you a chance to like say things out of your mouth on stage and do a microphone.
00:50:55
Speaker
Whether that gets a laugh or not really isn't that important. What's important is that you're kind of getting used to speaking and yeah, it's just like reps, practice. Practice makes perfect, I guess. so No, I've never, you know, out of the comedians I've had so far, nobody's ever said that about the open mics, is that it gives you that opportunity to to kind of learn to fail and be able to to, you know, not freeze. You know, if you drop a line or you drop a joke and it doesn't hit, you see some comedians will...
00:51:28
Speaker
where do I go now? and i hope for that But I have yet to have a comedian's put it that way. I'm a fan of the open mics when I get to go, just because you do get to see the newer people.
00:51:40
Speaker
You get to see some of the older people that are you know maybe working on new material. Obviously, it's a great place to try out new stuff. um But, you know like I said, I like that i like that Mindset of you know it builds He froze up again
00:52:15
Speaker
not sure I can't hear anything you're saying if I'm gonna do a little switcheroo
00:52:25
Speaker
All right, I'm gonna jump out here. Going back to the deck.
00:52:55
Speaker
I am forced back to the deck. Yes. okay I don't know if it's just because everybody's home for the summer and everybody's home, like everybody's on the internet all at the same time, or it was just the fact that I have shitty internet.
00:53:12
Speaker
Could be. So, but of course, this is going to... I do think it it it is important to, and and you were kind of talking about this, like when I started doing comedy...
00:53:25
Speaker
like if i had if i said a joke early on in my set that didn't work i would start to shrink you know like i would get really small on stage because like i'd be like nothing's gonna work now and i would start to get so so going to open mics getting reps on stage gets you more comfortable where it's like okay that didn't work i'm gonna keep moving right like and and that's really important is to just um and all yeah it's it's it's interesting i but i do think like even practicing at home, I think, is teaching your body to let these words flow out of your mouth. And the more you do that, the more they're going to, you're going to be like, maybe if I said it with this inflection instead of that inflection, or maybe I need to try this word instead of that word. And that's when you start to play with some of that stuff.
00:54:13
Speaker
And that's what's going make those jokes get tighter over time. So. Yeah, absolutely. I think it also gives you the opportunity to kind of find your voice and find who you are as as a comedian.
Developing Material and Resilience
00:54:25
Speaker
You know, it's it's kind of like an athlete going to practice or, know, or a you know band that gets together in the garage a couple times a week. Yeah.
00:54:39
Speaker
he didn
00:54:42
Speaker
it's um it's a nice outlet for you guys as comedians to be able to go okay let me let me see who i am on stage let me let me figure out my stage presence and my timing and all that um yeah like i said i've never really had most people are like open mics suck ah well they do suck i mean i'm not gonna say i mean absolutely suck but uh and and honestly you asked me if i still go to open mics not as much as i should um That's something that I need to start forcing myself. For a while there, I was getting enough stage time without mics that I was like, I don't really need to go to mics anymore. I could just you know try to stuff on stage. But ah I've been slowing down a little bit on that. I'm thinking I really do need to get myself out to mics more.
00:55:26
Speaker
But it is, I mean, if I'm being completely honest, it's because I'm afraid. I'm afraid to go out there and try new stuff again. like I know how painful that was. um So I think... I think like yeah, they shock you sit in a room for three hours waiting for four minutes of stage time in front of people that don't want to listen to you You know like yeah, it sucks, but but it's also I think a necessary evil of the whole process
00:55:52
Speaker
Does those writing come easy for you? i'm sorry what does does writing come easy for you and i'm in a weird I'm in a weird spot where I've got about 45 minutes worth of material. And every time I try to put something new together, I'm like, I have nothing else. Like, that's it. i so um I've been trying to get past this. It's like a weird block that I've hit that I need to um figure out how to get through. And I think that's where I think the open mics would
00:56:29
Speaker
because I don't even know where I got the material I have. Like when I look back on it's like, how did I like, I don't, I don't remember writing this down thinking that's going to be funny. Like, where did that come from? And so like, I think that's where a lot of it is just like, you have this idea, you kind of try to say it a couple of times and then it sort of takes shape on its own.
00:56:50
Speaker
Um, I used to, I record most of my sets and I remember Uh, I had like, I would get on a show and I'd get like a 10 minute spot on a show and I would record that.
00:57:03
Speaker
And then, um, and I would write it all out, write out my whole set. And then like maybe a month later, I'd be on another show and it's like, oh, I've already got that 10 minute, 10 minute set.
00:57:14
Speaker
And I would go back and I would watch the, like the videos that I'm recording now. And it's nothing close to the last time I wrote out that set. Like it's changed so much.
00:57:24
Speaker
that I can't even use the version that I wrote out a month ago because it's like evolved. and And there was no conscious decision to change anything. It just kind of evolved on its own. And so that's why the reps are really important.
00:57:37
Speaker
me yeah I couldn't imagine trying to sit down, a and write a 45-minute set, but then also memorize it.
00:57:54
Speaker
yeah most Most everything I do is just off the top of my head. yeah ah i'm I'm the worst at planning or pairing or anything. It's just like, screw it. I'm just going to come off the top of my head.
00:58:10
Speaker
um But that only goes so far. and that's That's an interesting thing, too, because like I remember being like, oh, my God, i couldn't like when I started out, I have to remember five minutes of material. like There's no way I can remember this.
00:58:26
Speaker
And then it was like, okay, then I was doing 10, 12 minute sets. And it was like, oh my God, I got to remember 10 minutes of material. Like, I can't remember all this stuff. But now there's like enough, like, it it's ah's a really weird thing. Like, I'll be going into doing like a 15 or 20 minute set.
00:58:42
Speaker
And I, I don't even know what I'm going to say. Like, I'm like, I don't remember any of my stuff. Like, what am I going to do? i'm going to get on stage and I don't remember anything. But then like, like you start, it reaches a point where there's like a certain amount of muscle memory or something that kicks in.
00:58:56
Speaker
And so like, okay, like you start telling your jokes like, oh, now I remember all this stuff and everything starts to flow out. So but there are, there are times when I go, now I'm about ready to get on stage. and I'm like, I have no idea what I'm going to say. Like, I don't, I don't know. i don't remember any of my material or anything. And then all sudden you get on stage and things just start to come together. So it's, it's a weird process, but like, yeah, I remember back looking at a five minute set thinking, oh, I got to remember my five minute. In fact, that picture that you have up there from comedy works.
00:59:26
Speaker
That was my first time at Comedy Works and they give you two minutes your first time up. and ah And my first time up, I had about a, I wrote it about a minute and a 40, one minute, 40 second set.
00:59:39
Speaker
And I practiced it over and over and over and over again until I could say it my sleep. And I got up on stage at Comedy Works and I said, but the third line in, blanked on stage.
00:59:52
Speaker
Even practicing a million times, one minute and 40 seconds was all I had to remember. And I blanked on stage. so a hopefully good But now was like, yeah, I can do 20 minutes without prep. Yeah.
01:00:07
Speaker
You know, it's like i got muscle memory. I'm going to say, you know, it comes with time. You know, you're like, oh, I got this now. i got this now. um Wally in the chat asks, and this is, he asks this question every every Tuesday and Wednesday night with my guest. Your biggest influencer or influence in the yeah in the comedy world.
01:00:30
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, if I want to look at big name comedians, I would say like one of my favorites is Gary Goleman. And really just because he talks about like, especially if you talk, you see some of the stuff where he's talking about depression or you know some of his mental health issues. I think it's very real. or It's very relatable. And he's just got such a great way of of looking at things. But yeah, I would say Gary Goleman is probably one of my favorites. um Yeah, i like Nate Bargetti, but it's a little bit more silly and topical. I don't i don't think it's quite as real as as Gary Goleman.
01:01:05
Speaker
But yeah, Mike Birbiglia, another great one. But now there's so many. There's so many really great comedians out there. Do you ever, when you're when you're writing or when you're trying to come up with new ideas, do do you ever worry that you might accidentally borrow from another or get too close to, you know...
01:01:30
Speaker
a bigger name comedian, maybe not necessarily the same exact joke, but a little too close to that line where people are going to go, Oh, Joe, what are you doing, man? Gary go ome Goldman's just said that like a year and a half ago.
01:01:45
Speaker
Well, it's it's interesting. so Sometimes i'll I'll come up with an idea for a joke and I'm like, that had to have been done before. Like, I can't be the first one to be saying this on stage, but yeah but ah there there is, I mean, I will share with you but about two years before i got into comedy i was at the airport in denver and there was a billboard about this guy that climbed mount everest blind and i took a picture of it and i texted it to a friend of mine i'm like how did he even know he went up there maybe they just put him in a walk-in freezer on a stair master you know and and i texted a friend of mine this and then two years later i'm doing stand-up comedy and i see a real
01:02:25
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verbatim of what i said like i even went back and found the text message and it was like almost verbatim what i had texted to my friend that day and so like i mean there's gonna be there's gonna be overlap and uh and i think like it's uh what i'll do is i'll i'll take a joke from from some big name comedian and then i'll ask ah so i'll accuse them of stealing it from me that's my and but That's how you get on radar.
01:02:56
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respect But yeah it's bound to happen. I mean, like even just something stupid I said recently um at one of our shows, I'm like, is anybody in Gamblers Anonymous? Did they give out chips at Gamblers Anonymous? Like that got a huge laugh. and I'm like, certainly I can't be the first person to like make that joke. like so Well, it's one of those things where, you know, comedy's been around for so long.
01:03:25
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I mean, you go back to, you know, even like medieval times or even farther back, you know, the village idiot was nine times out of ten, he was the comedian of of the village. No, you're an idiot, you know.
01:03:39
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So, yeah, it's it's hard to find out. material that's never been done before unless it's 100 genuine and already appear but and already did a joke about it i i i do find myself watching like sometimes i'll watch comedians and i'll pull out a notebook and start writing stuff down and every once while i'll catch myself
01:04:13
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No, they didn't give me an idea. I'm like stealing their, wait, and I can't do that. That's their joke. Like, so it's, it's, it's ah it's, but a lot of times, like, you'll hear a joke that'll kind of give you an idea for a joke.
01:04:27
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And so it's, I wouldn't call it stealing, more being inspired, I guess.
01:04:33
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Inspiration. Yeah. how And just for the record, like your, your connection isn't really any better. It's been, Like you're super choppy and your audio is cutting out quite a bit again still. unless it's No, it's on me. The chat is yelling at me as well. Oh, okay. um Yeah, the the the chat. Hey, DJ. Yeah, have the robot glitch.
01:05:08
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Like Eve from WALL-E. Yeah.
01:05:14
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Yeah, I would have swore you just did that intentionally now because that was 10 times worse than it's been.
01:05:22
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Can people hear me okay?
01:05:30
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Well, know I'm doing this. I don't know
01:05:40
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what's... Oh, okay. Okay. I know what I'm doing this weekend, and that is looking for a new internet provider. yeah is ah house Yeah, no, you sound good. Like I said, i can I can hear you loud and clear on my end. So it's 100% coming from me, and I apologize.
01:06:00
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So I'm going to i'm try to do my best here. I hate it. I feel like I've like the last two nights I've gone back in time and I'm, I'm back when I very first started doing this shit and I'm like, Oh yeah, I got a cell phone and a camera on it. That'll work just fine. Like don't mind me. Well, has been a little better since you've been on outside. So yeah, so that's, that's good. At least it's better. um have Have you, this is, I enjoy this.
01:06:37
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um I don't enjoy this, but I enjoy hearing these stories. Do you have any of those times where you absolutely just ate shit on stage?
01:06:48
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Oh, yeah. so So my first year doing comedy, so I mentioned earlier that I told myself I was going to do 100 times on stage.
01:07:00
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So I was keeping track every time I'd go on stage, like whether it was an open mic or a show, how much time I did. um and in 2024 i was on stage about 160 times i would say 140 those for eating shit yeah no i i would say more times than not i've definitely gotten better at it um and i think uh you know and that's going back to two you know i was talking about like these comedians that post reels where they don't get any laughs or
01:07:32
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or comedians that you see that never get laughs. Like they keep getting on stage and nobody ever laughed at anything they say. It's like, how do you, like, I can have one joke out of my whole set that doesn't land well.
01:07:44
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And I'm contemplating veering into oncoming traffic on my way home because it's like, you know, I mean, and it's like, you just did 12 minutes multiple times this month where you didn't get any laughs. Like, how do you, how do you keep getting back on stage? But yeah, I would i would say more times than not. Um,
01:08:02
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but ah But as far as like, I think on shows versus open mics, it's a little easier to not eat shit. um I'm trying to think of like a really bad experience that I had like on a legitimate show.
01:08:18
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um But yeah, I mean, to answer your question, yeah, plenty of times. So if not I think it's less frequent than it used to be, but yeah, it definitely still happens. Is there like one in particular that really like stands out to you where it's like, oh man, I could go back and have a, an Uno reverse card or a do-over card.
01:08:40
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Yeah, I think there's, it was the the third or fourth show that we did. i could not sell tickets to, And we had a really small audience.
01:08:51
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And I think I just really psyched myself into thinking i was a failure, that that's the energy that I brought out on stage. And yeah, i didn't, that was a really tough, it was at this place called the People's Building in Denver.
01:09:06
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And yeah, it was just, just was not getting anything from the crowd at all. um And then there's been, like there was a daytime show that we did one time.
01:09:18
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It was for this recovery organization and they paid us to come in after doing like a 12 hour employee training. They paid us to come in and do a comedy show.
01:09:30
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And I got up and and opened up the show and I couldn't get anything like it was so, so rough. The comedians that I had on the show, they were able to crack the room open and get people laughing. So that's, that was a chance for me to look back and say, okay, this was on me. I didn't,
01:09:47
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I could have done better. I could have done more with this crowd. At first I was like, oh my God, this crowd is just impossible. I need to get the hell out of here. yeah But then watching the other two comedians get up after me and actually crack them open and get some great laughs that showed me that it's like, okay, I could have done something different here. So I try to look at those as learning opportunities. What could I do differently? so Yeah, 100%. I hear i hear um from a few of my friends that are in the comedy world and that are comedians um that like the corporate gigs and stuff like that are just horrible to begin with. yeah it out yet
01:10:26
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Especially if you're not... um you're not typically a clean comedian. a lot of times you got to kind of clean it up and you know, they're just horrible because people have been sitting in conferences all day. And, and but well, one buddy told me, he's like, man, I, they pay good.
01:10:45
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But the last thing these poor people want to do after being in a meetings for eight, 10 hours a day is come and watch my stupid ass. Try to tell je dick jokes, you know, PG 13 jokes. Yeah. jokes yeah well that and that that's ah a big thing too is like people are like i can't write clean it's like well if you can't write clean and you can't write like yeah you need language and subject matter to be funny are you really funny or are you just going for shock and awe you know like that um and so yeah i would say um i did ah i did a i did show it was shortly after we started doing these second chance comedy shows i was sitting down to watch tv and i looked at facebook and there was some
01:11:27
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ad for some sober comedy show up in fort collins i'm like god damn it now gotta go check this out and see what the hell somebody else is doing you know and fort collins like an hour away so i'm like okay and i jump in my car and i drove up there and uh and i walk in and uh and i got talking to this guy as i'm walking in the door and i didn't know who he was but it turns out his name's rodney norman he's a pretty big comedian out east um ah but But I got talking to him and then he introduced me to the guy that was running the show and he comes up to me right away and he's like, hey, do you want to do a seven minute spot? and I'm like, yeah, I'd love to. He's like, can you do clean?
01:12:05
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I was like thinking about, yeah, yeah, I can do clean. No problem, you know? And so then I'm like, and I was still pretty new. So I'm out in the parking lot. I'm like changing up my set, trying to replace swear words and stuff, like trying to figure out, okay, there's only one thing I need to come up with something new for the rest of it.
01:12:20
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And it actually went really well. I had a really good set. You know, it was completely clean. But then the guy that hosted, he's a gay guy and he got up and he started talking like really graphically about sucking dick. And I'm like, wait a second, you told me you had to be clean. I stressed out about this for 45 minutes before I got on this stage.
01:12:43
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It was funny though. But yeah, but and most of my stuff, like, I mean, there's a couple of things that like, if somebody said do a clean set, I'd have to change one or two things. But for the most part,
01:12:55
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I'll drop the F-bomb and stuff, but but it's more just kind of to emphasize something. I don't need it. Yeah. So would you would you label label yourself more, quote-unquote, clean, or you just don't need the curse words?
01:13:13
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but wouldn't be Yeah, I mean, I would say... i would say I can like, yeah, I can eliminate the curse words and still do my set and do a pretty solid. Like, I don't think it would change things too much. Um, in fact, sometimes I'll, I'll do that. Like in front of, like, for some reason I'll be getting a weird vibe from an audience. And so I'll say fuck a lot less on stage than I normally would or something, but then sometimes I'm like, going to like the F word, you know, so I'm going to use it more.
01:13:39
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um But, you know, there's only like a couple of jokes that I have that probably would be anything beyond pg or PG-13, you know. anyway I think you said something in there.
01:13:54
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that again not being a professional comedian not being a stand-up comedian myself being a fan but speaks volumes know in your room and know in your audience have you have you experienced that where you may have you know been in a room that wasn't necessarily fit your style so to say so there definitely there definitely have been some times fact you talk about eating shit like i I would say that like the the universe has a way of punishing your arrogance. I've been on shows where I'm like, I'll look at the lineup and I'll be like, okay, well, I know I'm funnier than three people on this show.
01:14:40
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And then they'll crush and I'll bomb. You know? And like I like, you're just telling stupid, dirty jokes. Like they're not even that funny, but the audience loves you. And then I'll get up there and it's like, who's this straight laced Get them out of here. You know? It's funny. There's a local comedian that just, I think he still actively smokes track, you know? and And I had to do an open mic and I was up after him. And so it's like, he gets up there.
01:15:08
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for five minutes talking about smoking crack and then I get up there for five minutes talking about how I used to smoke crack. And, uh, and if if, if I had the experience now that I had back then, or if I had the experience back then that I have now, I would have leaned into that. I would have been like, okay, you got the before now you get the after, you know, like, yeah but, but I was just more like freaking out. Like, how am I going to follow this guy? That's like talking about smoking crack. And like, how do i yeah. So that's, um,
01:15:38
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But yeah, there definitely there definitely are audiences that like, I mean, there's other lessons I've learned. I did a show. it was a very small show at some place couple of years ago.
01:15:50
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and I saw all the all the comedians before me. They were a lot younger and they were they had this energy and it seemed to be resonating well with the audience. And then I tried to match their energy and nothing I was saying worked at all. And so finally about halfway through my set,
01:16:07
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I kind of went back to the way I normally do things. And then ah that's where I kind of learned that like, okay, I need to be me no matter what the room seems to think. only It's only going to work if I'm myself. so So yeah, like for the most part, it's like there might be audiences that it doesn't quite resonate with, but the worst thing you could do is try to change to match the energy of the room or try to match the energy of the other comedians because now you're not you know authentic. And I think something that works in my favor is authenticity so yeah it's it's it's weird but yeah reading the room is a big part of it knowing that like okay they don't like this shit at all so i'm going avoid that um i did a show in wyoming and it was my first time doing 20 minutes and i had to really scrape together to get 20 minutes of material and that included a big part about like leaving the christian church
01:17:01
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And they did not like that up in Casper, Wyoming.
Politics and Comedy
01:17:04
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they all And so like, you know, a good portion of my set that I had, uh, they did not like it at all. So no, and no, you're not only your room, but your, your geography in your reads and Yeah.
01:17:21
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Yeah, no, I've talked to comedians who ho lean heavily into, like, politics for their sets and stuff like that, and they're like, you know, I'm from a red state, and you know, my jokes kill there. and then I go, you know, a blue state, and they they almost want to, you know, lynch me up but in in the in the town square. know, it's like, there's always some things you might want to know before you hit the Well, I think too, like if you're going to do political jokes, do it in a way like, like George Carlin was a master at that. Like George Carlin, he didn't have a, but like he was probably left leaning, but like, that wasn't a big part of his existence. Like it wasn't all like, it was all like the politicians versus us, not right versus left or anything like that. And I think if you can do.
01:18:12
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political humor that doesn't divide the audience, that's like a whole other level of of doing comedy, you know, being able to write jokes that that can get people thinking from both sides.
01:18:23
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Because, yeah, you see that a lot, you know, like, like I mean, any anything, i like when Trump got shot in the ear, you know, like every comedy at every stand-up, like half the comedians were like, oh, look at my ear, like, whatever. make It's like, look at that stuff funny, though. if You're not being clever, you're not being original. You're just pandering to the people that hate Trump, you know, and so...
01:18:42
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Trump's an idiot. Am I right? Like, ah, you know, okay where's some choice like there's nothing funny there. Yeah, exactly. Like, that's just, ah you know, like you said, it's just pandering. That's like, yeah i i I've been, and I know I've struck a chord with some people because I say that politics are low hanging fruit.
01:19:02
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it's ah it's ah It's a cheap grab. it's it's ah It's a clickbait, so to say. you know Whether you're doing podcasting or comedy or whatever, if you're a quote-unquote influencer, it's a low-hanging fruit.
01:19:17
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And it's an easy way to get cheap views and and likes and stuff like that. but What do I know? I'm just i a jerk off doing a podcast currently on a patio on a cell phone. so It is low-hanging fruit if if you don't, like but but not lot good political comedy. It is just like, I don't even know how to describe it, but like you see so much of it too. like Same with hot-button topics like abortion.
01:19:52
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like you know like okay are you being clever are you just trying to get because this is hot it's a hot topic in society right now and so you're just kind of like catering to the people that are passionate about this and trying to get a laugh there like or is it something really clever that's something like politics like I think you could be you know like I might you know I I have a a relative that's a huge Trump supporter. And she was talking about like this comedian that she really liked. And I was watching this comedian and I was like, the comedian was making fun of Trump, but she thought he was pro Trump. And I'm like, that's a genius. like Yeah.
01:20:31
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it i think I think funny is funny when you're not trying to be divisive. or you know I think funny is funny no matter where you are.
01:20:42
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and If you can find that happy medium or if you're, like you said, you know Lopez or ah so many the other comics that are out there that can not really be labeled one side or the other.
01:20:53
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They just make fun of it as whole. because i mean it is and Comedy gold is out there to make fun of it as a whole because it is a it is a train wreck. Yeah. far but um Oh, was going to ask you something else. and
01:21:13
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Squirrel over here. but Shiny outfit. My daughter just got home from work and walked by and gave me a dirty look. and It was just like, oh, old shit, you know, I can't do anything.
01:21:27
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The joys of parenting. wow who There's lots of gold in that, too, so... Oh, yeah. I mean, I don't know how you how how your style of parenting is, but, you know, I i don't. I'm not one to shelter my kids or hide them from the real world. And they also grew up in Thunderdome.
01:21:48
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You know, I grew up with a family full of shit talkers and and agitators. and And you had to be quick in my family. Otherwise, you got eaten alive.
Humor in Family and Aging
01:21:59
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So that's how my house is with my kids. So and i I joke around. My middle daughter is really good at it. She's my mini me. She's like a clone. And my girlfriend and finally got to see it.
01:22:09
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She didn't believe me when I told her until she moved in and she finally got to see it. My middle daughter will walk by and hit me with a drive by. out of nowhere, like she'll be up in her room and she'll come down, go into the bathroom and hit me with a drive by and say something that I don't even have. I'm still trying to process what the hell just happened, let alone to be able to, you know, snap back. at Well, now I just call her a bully because that's what she is. She bullies me.
01:22:39
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ah My dad, uh, my dad was very sarcastic and, and, uh, kind of grew up in that environment. And, uh, it's It's interesting because as he got older, he passed away a few years ago now, but um but as he got older, we had a hard time knowing, is he just making a joke or is he losing it? you know like and yeah but It almost seemed like he was he was leaning into that too. like and so like A lot of times we're like, remember that time? like Did he know what he was saying or did he was he losing his mind? Yeah.
01:23:14
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ah Pierce wants pice wants to talk politics. He said no politics. He's yelling at me. That's that's one of my partners here on the on the network. yeah yeah He does a couple shows. He's quick to yell at me. yeah that's he'll He'll keep me in line from time to time. Yeah.
01:23:37
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So but no volunteer. I know we weren't going down that road. I made the rules. Calm down. Now now I'm going to start talking about yeah just because that much it. You don't tell me what I can't do.
01:23:49
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yeah joe Joe, take the floor. Feel free to go on a political rant. My political rant, my biggest problem, that was ah like like you talk about mental health, like when when when Trump got elected this last time,
01:24:04
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there was this overwhelming feeling of like loneliness that i had because both sides, if, because I just didn't get involved with it. And so like the right would be mad at me that I wasn't pro Trump and the left would be mad at me that I wasn't anti-Trump. And it's like, I just don't want to fucking talk about it. You know, like I don't, and it's like by being in the middle, both sides, like, Hey, you vehemently, like it's crazy. Like,
01:24:32
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ah yeah bystander in that right but it's like you just So if I'm around Trump supporters, I'm like, okay, yeah, whatever. If I'm around anti-Trumpers, I'm like, okay, yeah, whatever. Like, I just don't get involved. like a i got I feel that because i'm I've always i'm always been in the boat of, I don't care.
01:24:51
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I don't care. Either way. you know and And then when when I get yelled at from both sides, like look at me. um um'm I'm bringing you all together. I'm unifying. See? Now, I should be the president. Well, the thing is, too, by staying in the middle, I can actually see both sides of an issue.
01:25:11
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Like, I can see different perspectives. Like, I don't believe everybody on this side thinks like this, and I don't believe everybody on this side. Like, I can see that the majority of the people are kind of in this realm of the center, and it's the lunatics on the right and the left that are throwing shit at each other all day.
Overcoming Fear in Comedy
01:25:27
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yeah We're just kind of stuck like ah we're bobbing and weaving and ducking and dodging, hoping we zig when we put a zag. Yeah, no, exactly. for ah feel So oh that's where I was going to go. That's where I was going to ask you.
01:25:43
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Who did vote for? yeah Who did you vote for? Who will you be voting for? um Your first time on stage, was that did that come natural to you? or Because i have I have an absolute, I am terrified of public speaking. So I've always been curious.
01:26:06
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You know, as comedian, you kind of have to get up in front of people. So what was that first experience like? Yeah, my first, so so I took the class, and the class ends with a showcase where you, like, invite all your friends and family and you do your sets.
01:26:21
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ah you worked on in class um so i did one open mic before the showcase and my first open mic i was like reading off my phone like this like scared you know just terrified um and then even my uh even my showcase i yeah i mean it was really rough if i go back there and watch videos from when i started out it was horrendous um I was never comfortable speaking in front of groups. I, even as you know, ah my, my job has taken me into several leadership positions and even just like, Oh, I've got to present something to the company about my department like that. Like I was always terrified to do stuff like that.
01:27:02
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So yeah, no public speaking was not something, but I just forced myself. I forced myself to do it over and over and over and over again. And then there there became this moment of like liberation, like,
01:27:16
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Like I would go to this open mic and bomb in front of a bunch of people I didn't know. And I would drive home and I'd kind of be laughing to myself about it. Like, it's kind of like you look life in the eyes and say, fuck you. You know, like it's, it's ah it was a weird freedom that started to come from it to be able to do it. So, but no, it was, I, yeah, no, it took a lot of reps to get comfortable on stage.
01:27:38
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i have I have purposely at jobs avoided leadership leadership roles because I know that I have to get open. I'm like, you can give me the money. I just don't want the responsibility.
01:27:50
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yeah wow I would kill and never have to do a performance review ever again. That's like the worst part about leadership. but Yeah. but Well, that's that's the other thing that would kind of kill me as a boss too, because I'm pretty blunt and I'm pretty honest. And if you suck, I'm going to tell you you suck. And I'm going to tell you why you suck. And and if you don't, well, then you're going to be working at McDonald's here very soon at the end of the day. Yeah.
01:28:21
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Well, you don't have to get you don't have to be a boss to get in trouble for telling a coworker they suck. I'll tell you that. This is very true. is this This is very true. i I've had multiple conversations with the HR department.
01:28:35
Speaker
You know, Glick, you really shouldn't say it that way. There's other ways to say it. No, I feel like I got my point across when I told him he was fucking stupid. And if he didn't get out of my area, I was going to throw a hammer at him. Yeah.
01:28:50
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Well, and and we do waste so much time sugarcoating everything, you know, and like dancing around. stuff if we could just be like that that was ah I was reading this book about um Argentinians and this kind of the lingo they use in Buenos Aires.
01:29:04
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And the preface of the book said that Argentinians don't believe in political correctness because it only impedes their ability to make their point. Yeah. And I think that's like so true. It's like, we sit there like, I want to be nice, but I want you to understand. it's like, no, you're fucking ugly. Okay. Like I said, it, you know, like, it's, uh, yeah. Do I look fat in these pants? like, Yeah. No, the pants look fat on you.
01:29:37
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It's not you, it's the pants. Your pants make me look fat. No, it's your butt that makes you look fat. Yeah, just, uh, yeah, i I don't, I don't think I got that memo that I'm supposed to be politically correct. Uh, I don't know that I have a politically correct bone in my body.
01:29:58
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Well, I, I run into that. Like when writing jokes, like sometimes I'm like, like I, I, uh, like I might come close to a topic and I'll like i'll talk to a friend of mine and be like, is it okay if I say this on stage? like Because that's another area that I don't wipeping device up because i don't want to is I don't want to offend any demographic of people. you know yeah so um But I also have a pretty bizarre sense of humor so I can find humor in things that would offend a demographic of people. like
01:30:29
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So I'm like, okay, can I say that? Or is that getting too close? Like, so I'll, yeah, I've got people that I'll run things by to make sure that, um, I,
01:30:40
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i'm ah i I'm an equal opportunity offender. So, you know, everybody, ah everybody's going to get, going to get a shot at some point. So it's all exclusive or and inclusive around here. You guys want inclusivity. I've got you. I've got everybody covered at the end of the day.
01:31:02
Speaker
Well, that's a, I was just, what was it? Sunday night. I was out to dinner with a partner company in Austin, Texas. And, and, the two guys were with, they were from Israel, and he's like, come on, tell me a Jewish joke. And I'm like, what are you talking about? Come on, tell me a Jewish joke. I'm like, okay, i can I know some, I've heard some, but like do you really want me to say offensive Jewish joke to you? like why oh but yeah And I did, of course, and then regretted it. I'm like, I probably should just like... Ruined that business meeting.
01:31:37
Speaker
Well, we pay them. We give them business. So I had to yeah There you go. Fair enough. I can get away with this. Exactly. I figured...
Cancel Culture and Inclusivity
01:31:52
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you know i figure You know, jokes like that, I mean, as long as you, ah you know, yeah there there is a line with every joke, with with with every, you know, stance. And when racial jokes are funny, you know, to a certain degree, you know, and as long as you're not somebody who's constantly singling out a one group, you know. Yeah.
01:32:14
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um there's there's comedians out there, there's black comedians out there that I absolutely love because that's all they do is racial racial stereotypes for everything. Across the board, everybody gets it.
01:32:27
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There's no one-sidedness. So I think if if that's the avenue you're going to go down, you've got to kick the floodgates wide open and give it to everybody, even even your own It was interesting to um it it it was interesting um I want to say that Paul Rodriguez or it was some comedian I saw probably 20 years ago at this casino in Minnesota.
01:32:54
Speaker
And it was a Mexican guy. i can't remember who it was, but, um, but he was making jokes about every demographic. Right. And at one point, uh, he was talking about black people and this guy in the front row got super offended. And he's like, and he looks right at him. He goes, you laughed when I made fun of everybody else. Like, yeah, I just called him out, but like we laughed at the Mexican jokes and the white guy jokes, like, yeah.
01:33:20
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much Much like urban legends, stereotypes are based in some truth. you know So you know you got to be able to make fun of them and poke fun at them and and you know and have fun at the same time.
01:33:35
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think i think a big part today too is like you know we we used to we used to consider intent and now it's like, okay, we don't even care about intent. You said the language and that's a problem. Yeah.
01:33:49
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yeah with like if you And you're still kind of new to the comedy scene. That kind of brings me with with today's climate. Have you noticed that in the few years that you've been doing comedy, has it hurt comedy or has it hindered some acts or most of you guys kind of like, eh, fuck it, this is our job?
01:34:11
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I think it it it probably helps because it forces people to write actual jokes instead of just leaning into stereotypes. um But I do think that there's like this cancel culture that I think people are too quick to get behind, you know, like it's like the slightest misstep and then the the world wants to cancel you, you know, like, so I, I do think that's a problem. Like, I think people should be allowed to make some mistakes and learn from them versus, um, but yeah, I, I do think that like, we probably, you know, like I, I grew up, uh, I grew up listening to Jose Jimenez. Like, i don't know if you've heard Bill Dana.
01:34:49
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But he does the whole character about this astronaut, this Mexican astronaut. He does the whole thing and in a Mexican voice like that would never work today. Like he could never get away with that today. Is it funny? It was funny growing up, but like looking back on it, it probably was offensive because he's like, you know, so I don't, I don't know. Like, I think it's made us, I think it's improved the quality at some level.
01:35:12
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because it's forced people to be more clever about finding real jokes rather than just getting the cheap laughs, you know? Yeah.
01:35:21
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No, I can see that. ah so I don't know why it just first time popped into my head, but that's something I've been curious about, like, You know, obviously that goes with like knowing your room, knowing your region and stuff like that. But I know, you know, especially with with with being so new and a lot of the comedians that come on here are newer comedians so far. so it's like, ooh, literally yeah going into dangerous waters here. Yeah.
01:35:51
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Yeah, I mean, like I said, try to avoid anything that's going to, I mean, my goal is to get as many people in the room to laugh as possible. So why would I want to say something that's going to offend half the room, you know?
01:36:05
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So that's how I look at it. yeah like And like you said, you know, you you have a purpose. Your comedy is purpose-driven. um And and i I like that. I dig that because, you know, yes, you want to make people laugh, but also, you know,
01:36:22
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Sometimes you got to read between the lines and, and, and then you can get that, that, um, that message across that you're trying to get across to people.
Upcoming Shows and Social Media
01:36:31
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Like, uh, know, it's, everything's going be all right. if Just do laugh a little bit. Just, just have a little fun.
01:36:39
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Um, no, I dig it. Do you, um, do you have any, um, upcoming shows or, uh, anything like that, that, uh,
01:36:51
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Anytime soon. Yeah. um We've got a few shows coming up. We're going to be down in Colorado Springs in on June 20th. We've got a show down there in July. We've got a show at North and North Glen. We've got a show coming up in like a couple shows in August and Louisville. And I mean, they're all listed. Like if you go out to second chance, comedy.com, there's a shows tab, and they're all listed out there.
01:37:18
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And then we're doing a couple of shows we're going to do in August. We're going to go to Garing, Nebraska, and then Rapid City, South Dakota. We're doing two shows up there. And then in September, we're going to be going down to Pagosa Springs and Durango and Colorado. So, yeah, but they're all out there on the website. So, lots shows.
01:37:38
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Yeah, as we say, you got lots of stuff coming up. Are you on the social media, comedy-wise, where people can find you and give you a follow-up? Uh, yeah, Joe Huseman comedy is my handle on Instagram. Um, I don't have second chance comedy socials. It's one of the things that I keep thinking I need to do is get some second chance comedy social pages up and running, but I don't have that yet. But, um, Joe Huseman comedy, is, is both Facebook and, uh, Tik TOK and right. Just Tik TOK, Facebook and Instagram.
01:38:11
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Uh, and you can also, if you go out to second chance comedy.com, there's a comedians tab. and that lists all of the main comedians on our show and has links to socials out there as well.
01:38:22
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Awesome. Everybody can go out there and find you and find them and and drop some, you know, drop some followers your guys' way and help, uh, you know, gets you out there into the ah end of the social media universe because um I'm sure you have the same mindset as a lot of people. the Social media is a necessary evil.
01:38:44
Speaker
still We hate it, but we have to have it. I hardly ever, i didn't even have a TikTok. I bare barely touched Instagram and rarely went on Facebook, but now it's like I find myself doom scrolling all the time on all three. and It's just like,
01:39:01
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It almost has to be out there, but then it's like it sucks you in. Mm-hmm. No, as an entertainer anymore, i mean, no matter what music, comedy, acting, podcasting, whatever, you yeah you got to be on the socials. And I'm terrible at it.
01:39:17
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I'll be the first one to admit I'm absolutely horrendous at social media. Again, unpaid internship is available. If you'd like to apply, hit us up on any of our but social media platforms, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, or X. Let us know. I would love to have a yeah social media intern. Yeah.
01:39:38
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If you go on to any of my social pages, you'll see like a whole bunch of stuff posted over three or four days and then like six months where nothing's posted because like I'll get this buggy like, oh, got to start getting busy on socials and then like that'll last like three days and then I'll be like, screw that.
01:39:54
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ah stop posting again for six months yeah i am i'm guilty of that it was like our tiktok is like that you know tiktok is like oh in six seven months oh here's four or five posts or uh even like instagram reels i i have all the the audio the videos and everything that i need to chop up and and break down into reels and stuff like that but then i start doing one and it's like hour and a half and I've got one clip. Damn, this is killing me. but have Have you played with that Opus clip at all?
01:40:28
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I have. and Here's the thing about Opus that kills me. I put a show in and it gives me 500 clips and it was like... Just like find me like five of the best clips of a show. and And none of them, none of them are like, like some of them are so close. Like if you would just like, it's so frustrating because there's so many times where the clip is so close to being a great clip, but you missed an important part or it cut off too soon.
01:41:00
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I've been trying to figure out how to ah adjust that, but it is, yeah, I think it's one of those things like you just need to develop a skill set for being able to do it or something. I don't know. Yeah, and like StreamYard, we use StreamYard for everything, and it
Podcasting Journey and Closing Advice
01:41:15
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offers a feature. Well, it it'll generate clips for us, but again, it's like it completely misses some of the best the best parts of the show.
01:41:24
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They have a feature on there where it's like, in the middle of your show, if you say clip it, then it'll register for the AI to grab that part.
01:41:35
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Well, I've tried that a few times and it either clips before or after. And then I also look like a, I also look like a jackass in the middle of a show. Like, Oh, clip it. my guess like People just think it's a weird tick.
01:41:51
Speaker
This guy have Tourette's too. Yeah. guy have tourette's too but yeah so Yeah. no that's ah that's That's something that i'm I'm trying to develop and get into, but man, I am not i am not savvy when it comes to technology. yeah That's not my thing either.
01:42:19
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It's a creativity piece that I don't do well. Yeah.
01:42:26
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I'm going to start a podcast. It'll be super easy. And then I had to learn how to, I'm like, I'll just turn the camera on and go. oh no. You to learn how to pull audio so you can post audio, edit audio, do this, do that. I'm like, I don't know how to do that of it do that. Like I said earlier, I've thought about starting a podcast, but I'm like, i don't even have like time to think about how to put that together. Like,
01:42:54
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I'll just use stream yard. It's like, okay, but that that that takes learning, right? Like that takes effort. and like oh Well, I will say stream yard is really easy.
01:43:08
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It's a, it's kind of dummy proof. Um, We use it. And neither myself or Wally or anybody that's been on this network in the past were the smartest people in the world. But they they do kind of make it idiot-proof on StreamYard. However, StreamYard likes to do magical updates and add little features. and who's that other day There's so many features on this on this site that I don't even know what they are or how to use them. let alone I'm like, just keep it the way it was when I got here. Yeah.
01:43:41
Speaker
There should be all products should have that. It's like, don't upgrade me. I want to keep, I got used to this though. Cause yeah, so many, even, even like Facebook on my phone, I swear every time I log back in and I was like, how do I switch profiles? Like it's different now. Like they keep changing it. It's like, why do you keep changing this? Like, yeah, it's a, it's a nightmare, but yeah.
01:44:04
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well You know, that's one of those one of those joys that, you know, in the world we live in today, back in the day, it was so easy. You're just like, oh I'm going to tell jokes. I'm going to write them.
01:44:15
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I'm going to find a club that's going to let me say my jokes and Then maybe other clubs because promoters are going to be there. And this, that, the other thing, they're going to want me to come there.
01:44:26
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Now it's like, I got to get on social media. I need somebody to throw a beer bottle at my head and and then I'll pick it up and suck it. I'm sure it was a lot harder though, to get booked on shows back then though. So and yeah, exactly.
01:44:41
Speaker
um I don't want to keep you too long. I'll go ahead and get ready and and and wrap this up. um But again, you know, second chance comedy.com. Check it out. and You've got all the shows up there, all the links.
01:44:56
Speaker
um Give Joe a follow. Check them out. You know, this is cool for me. I know you've been doing this for a while. You know, little while now. You're still new to the game, though. One of the cool things about doing this show or like my music show is I become a fan.
01:45:11
Speaker
And ah in a small way, I get to go on this journey with you and watch you grow and see you do more and more things. And and it's fun. um So hopefully down the road here in a you know few months or however long, I would love to have you back.
01:45:28
Speaker
I want to try to bring guests back. yeah and very twenty
01:45:36
Speaker
ah complete D bags and it's like, Oh, I don't want you back. you You did break up a little bit there at the end, but no, I would love to be back. I always loved talking about the show and just like, I mean, i I love talking to people too. I think it's just great to to get out there more. So thank you for having me. Yeah, no, absolutely. I appreciate you coming on before I let you go though. I know this is kind of cheesy and cliche. Um, and I don't care cause it's my show and I get to do whatever I want. There's my ego. Shut up, Wally.
01:46:09
Speaker
Um, I always like to ask my guests, you know, ah for For advice, you know, for anybody that's thinking about getting into comedy ah or and and or life advice, you know, what would you tell somebody who's aspiring to to be a comedian and then just general life advice, you know, something that maybe somebody's told you or something you've learned along the way that's really stuck with you and helped you get through.
01:46:36
Speaker
Yes, I mean, as far as the comedy piece, like I think, I mean, read a book, take a class, like get some sort of background in it. Like I think learning the basics of structuring jokes is going to go a long way. let It's going to save you a lot of time. I mean, a lot of people just start going to Mike's trying to run stuff and it never works. And it's like they can't figure it out. I think if you, if you get some structure, read a book that tells you how to, how to craft jokes and how to structure jokes, I think that'll help out a lot.
01:47:06
Speaker
but also it's not ah it's not an easy ride i mean you're you're into music like it's like any other art form take it's a grind it's it's put yourself out there and if you want to get good at it you have to go to four to six mics a week you've got to put yourself out there you've got a bomb you've got a you know it's it's it's a really tough process but i i think if you stick with it i think anybody can get good at it um that's kind of my my comedy tip i guess just learn the structure and practice, practice, practice, like they say, um, as far as life advice, I think, um, I think one of the things that really helped me in my journey on this fall is, um, ah letting go of, of like trying to like being open-minded, like, I mean, just being open to the fact that I could be wrong about everything.
01:48:05
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um and approach life with curiosity. And that was something, so I used to be a very, you know, I mentioned that I did jokes about leaving the Christian church. I used to be a very devout Christian.
01:48:16
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and And I went through a very dark period of my life. And I remember having this feeling like I was looking into this abyss and I'm holding on to my religion, looking into this abyss, thinking this is all I have. Otherwise I fall into the abyss.
01:48:31
Speaker
But letting go and falling into the abyss was actually really cool because like now I don't need to argue with people. I can actually be curious. I can be open-minded. I can be open to the possibility that I'm wrong.
01:48:43
Speaker
Like I don't need to have, and that was so liberating to me and it it helped me to like just really develop and maintain better relationships with people. So. which I dig it. Now, curiosity is, goes a long way. You know, I, you know, be, be willing to just take that chance. You never know. I like it. Yeah, no, absolutely. Um, no, again, uh, you know, thank you so much for taking a little bit of time out of your evening. Sorry for, do apologize for, uh, the technical difficulties on my end. ah that is going to be my project for this weekend is, uh, remedying this. So, you know, down the road, when you, when you come back, hopefully we won't have any issues and my neighbors won't go. Oh, the crazy guys out there talking to his phone, and yeah talking to himself, yeah just sitting on the porch. They don't know what's going on. I'm just out here talking. Well, I would always love to come back. And if you ever come out to Denver and you want to come see a show to hit me up, I'll, uh, I'll make sure. And, uh,
01:49:43
Speaker
get you tickets. And if we ever make it out to Ohio, I'll try to remember to get back to you too. So. Yeah, definitely. And i like i said, I'll be a fan. So, you know, hopefully, know, I think that's one of the cool things though is like I said, like, you know, watching this, this show could be something that, that, you know, ultimately you take on the road and you're getting to go all over the place. i don't that's something you want. or you If I was independently like wealthy, like I would buy an RV and just walk shows around the country doing this. Like, but right now it's like,
01:50:15
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I need to make a profit or i can't do this. yeah p experience I know it's it's been a lot of fun. I've met a lot of incredible people, got connected with some incredible organizations.
01:50:27
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We raised over $20,000 for Sobriety House, which is a local nonprofit that helps people that can't afford to get help anywhere else. We've teamed up with other organizations to raise money for them. So like, it's been a very,
01:50:41
Speaker
a very rewarding journey in a lot of ways doing the comedy. So, yeah, no, that's all. That's awesome. Um, Colorado is on my, uh, bucket list of place. I'd like places. I'd like to get to eventually.
01:50:57
Speaker
Uh, like I said, hit me up. If you're coming out, we'll get you, we'll get you to a show. Yeah, definitely. Again, Joe, appreciate it, man. Have a great night. I got to do my little closing spiel. You're welcome to hang out, listen to me, rattle off a bunch of nonsense that you're not going to care about. Or you you feel free to drop down and I'll go ahead and i i let all my guests know Saturday nights we do our our crazy little just blow steam off weekend. We dropped the link. We call it the open door challenge. Anybody and everybody is welcome to pop in and hang out and say hello. If you ever find yourself bored on a Saturday night and see us live on the old YouTube and you want to pop in and say hi, feel free to.
01:51:40
Speaker
and Okay. Well, this Saturday's out. It's my daughter's graduation party, but yeah, definitely. Congratulations to her. Yeah. Yeah. It's awesome. so Yeah. All right, man. Well, i appreciate it. Like I said, you're welcome to stick around or you can drop down.
01:51:54
Speaker
All right. Appreciate it. Have a good one. All right. Thanks, Clec. I really appreciate it. Yes, sir. Bye.
01:52:02
Speaker
Guys, thanks for listening. Thanks for hanging out, as always. Sorry, again, on my end for all the technical difficulties the last couple days. um I'm going to make it my mission to fix it and figure it out for next week because we do have...
01:52:20
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I have guest booked all next week. Uh, Wally has guest booked, but my internet problems don't affect him in any way, shape and or form. Uh, but tune in tomorrow night, Speedway stories, Wally and Johnny, AKA Fidel bongs are back. They got Hunter Crowley in the house, uh, talking all the racings and the room rooms and the mud and the the big tires and all the things that I don't know anything about. And that's why Wally hosts those shows because, uh,
01:52:53
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And then, of course, Saturday, we got nonsensical nonsense. Saturday night, ah sober edition. I am not drinking this Saturday night. I know that's going to shock a lot of people, but I am not drinking this Saturday night, but I will be there in full force. Full Sasquatch and force minus the boozy booze.
01:53:10
Speaker
But still, nonetheless, it'll be a fun show. It'll be a killer show. So check it out. And then hopefully, fingers crossed, y'all, Beyond the Veil, we'll be back this Sunday as well with Kayla and myself. We got to come up with a topic and we got to do some research.
01:53:26
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So and we've got limited time and limited energy to do so. ah Yeah, I'm just on call this weekend. So, you know, and it's the one month I got to be sober. Or the one one one week in the month I got to be sober. but ah And then next Monday, wally who you got next Monday? Because that I don't know yet.
01:53:50
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And I don't have access to my calendar, unfortunately. ah Tuesday, i have a guest. And Wednesday, I have a guest. And again, I don't have access to my calendar. And I can't remember exactly who it is.
01:54:02
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I suck as a host, but, um, but no, thank you guys again for listening. Thank you guys for hanging out. Uh, uh, awesome.
01:54:17
Speaker
I appreciate that. Uh, no, thank you guys for hanging out. As I said at the beginning, as I've said throughout the show, I'm not a comedian. I just get to hang out with them. And it's really cool getting shoot to shoot your shit and getting to meet all of them. So make sure you guys like, share, subscribe. Bio.link slash Nonsense.network. Don't forget, we always got the super chats and all that stuff. And the Cash App and the Venmo and the PayMail if you guys want to help support the show.
01:54:43
Speaker
That goes a long way. with that being said, I'm out. This is Glicks Comedy Lounge and I'm fired. It says all I I've dropped the ball the last couple days.
01:54:58
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But be good or be good at it, baby. I'll see you guys Saturday. Na, na, na, na, na
01:55:29
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I've been down here in the trenches, swinging for the fences. God forbid. There's no more stops.
01:56:37
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going to be under pressure. Failure is my measure. Try to shake me down. Back in bones I made steal. My convictions hold my shield.
01:56:48
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They'll see me coming away.
01:58:00
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Breaking down, giving up. Gonna take my air.