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Glick's House of Music: Leah Martin Brown (Evol Walks)
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Leah Martin-Brown of Evol Walks joins Glick's House of Music Your Unofficial Backstage Pass LIVE tonight. Tune in for an exclusive backstage_sytle conversation about music,touring, song writing, and more.
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Musical Community and Inspiration
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Musicians gathers
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Still hangouts, no time spared.
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All things music, a vibrant call for one and all to give their all in this sanctuary where dreams ignite.
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Music's
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Chill hangouts, no time spared. From sorrowful whispers to a roaring sound.
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I've always struggled with goodbyes I never could make them last Facing forever without you And letting go of our past And I know that you feel the same And I know that you're hurting too The two of us are poison
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Torturous madness, but we can't.
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I still remember your heartbeats And your lips on my skin I sometimes feel like forgetting
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Be considered a saint And I want you to feel the same And I hope that you're hurting too Because you made us poison Burning in silence as the
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Torturous madness But we gain
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Let it fade into the night We tried so hard and still lost the fight Another place in another time, my friends This wouldn't be the end
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But we gave it out
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What's going on everybody? Welcome
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to the Nonsensical Network and Glick's House of Music, your unofficial backstage pass. Love that song, love that song, love that song. I can't say it enough and I love that version.
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I'm hanging out with somebody cool as hell. An incredible singer. but As you guys just heard. Songwriter. Guitarist. She does a little bit of everything.
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i like that, but she's got an insanely powerful voice. The front woman. of evil
Leah Martin-Brown's Musical Journey
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walks miss leah martin brown how you doing good thank you for having and just smiling ear to ear appreciate you coming on appreciate you taking a little bit of your time um i gotta tell you real quick right off the bat i really like that song and then i love the fact that you guys did the acoustic version to that um as i've been listening through your music uh because you have
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an insanely powerful voice and it's and it's a voice that just from the first second just grabs a hold of you So I have not been able to get enough.
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Oh, thank you. Thank you very much. I i really wanted to do an acoustic EP. So i that was one of the songs that I really wanted to do another version of. So I'm glad that um it's finally out there for people to hear.
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It seems to be. I don't know if it's just because, you know, we've been ah promoting and and and whatnot about you coming on the show, but um it's everywhere. And I hope that's how it's, you know, you're getting the views and the clicks and and and and the eyes on it that that you seem to be getting. Because every time I go to my social media, there. Well, that's good news. That means the algorithm likes me at the moment. yeah The algorithm is a finicky, finicky thing. It is indeed.
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we We, unfortunately, as entertainers, are slaves to the algorithm. Yes. So i just from doing a little bit of homework, you're from Australia originally, and you come all the way to L.A.
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several some some odd years ago. Was it for the music or was it something else that brought you stateside? I was actually invited for music. So there was an A&R company that discovered my project that I'd had since I was, you know, 14 years old, 15 years old.
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And they wanted to know we'd been touring Australia and we started playing some of the bigger festivals and they asked who wrote the music. And I said, I do. I usually co-write it. um or I write it on my own, it really just depends. So they said, well, we want you to come over and we want to try something. So they brought me over and the project that I had, Lily Rouge, wasn't really the vibe. So that's when I created Evil Walks and I kind of moved forward under that moniker because I was, you know, I'd had the Lily Rouge thing since I was like 13, 14 and I wanted to be a little bit more adult.
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was it Was it always kind of a rock thing for you or did you do more of that? the pop or don't really what what what you would classify your style as?
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So when I first started writing music, like I've always loved rock and metal, I had ah got a Limp Bizkit like album for when I was 10. I was listening to Korn and System of a Down, um ACDC.
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I was always very into rock, but I started playing guitar at 11 and I was learning. I started on a nylon string and then went to acoustic and the teacher that I had was not teaching me pedals or anything like that. So I didn't know how to play that style of music because I hadn't had much, um,
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exposure to it. So the original music that I would write was kind of like, it was weird. It was acoustic Celtics influenced
Exploring Musical Influences and Styles
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pop rock. I wouldn't call it pop. It was more like a folk Celtic songwriter thing. And then when I turned like 17 and 18 and i or even 15, I got with a producer who could kind of finesse things i was like oh i do write rock songs it's just i've been playing my acoustic guitar and i didn't know about pedals like no one's ever educated me on that so it went kind of into a gothy like very gothy weird evanescence thing and i experimented with a bit of rage against the machine and i did a bit of rapping and then it morphed into just female acdc and now i'm kind of coming full circle into that
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alternative heavy rock i'm erring on the side of grunge but not quite grunge for the new record just dabble just dip your toes a little bit everything do a little bit everything i dig it i like it no i i love your guys the sound with the with the band and everything like that and um you know uh you've been on my radar for a little while sometimes i get gunshot with the bigger with the bigger acts and i'm like ah know worst thing i can say is no um But we were talking a little bit backstage and you came very heavily recommended. ah Girls supporting girls.
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Yeah. And you guys are really, i don't know if that's an LA thing. I can't really say that I've seen it much from other areas where I've interviewed artists, but that that's really cool. It seems like ah that you guys out there are really pushing each other and supporting each other.
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um but Honestly, we're all just really good friends and we all just really like each other and I would rather be working with people that are my actual friends than people that I don't like. So the you know the artists that you mentioned, Jules and the Howe, VK, like we've been to each other's houses, we go to each other's birthdays, we play shows together. there's There's a whole group of us that are just genuinely very good friends as well and we love to collaborate together and work together and i I don't understand another way of doing things.
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Yeah. No, i well, I mean, it is, I gotta agree with it is a whole lot easier to work with people you like as opposed to people you you don't like. that's Absolutely. This is very true statement. Yeah. And there's no reason not to like anyone. do You know what I mean? Like it's, everyone should, everyone should, unless something terrible happens, like I don't really understand the reason not to like someone. Yeah. Yeah, no, like I said, you guys have seen just from the little bit that I've got to, you know, i I'm clear across the country. I'm out in middle of nowhere, Ohio, and surrounded by cornfields. But, um you know, I've got to experience a little bit of your guys' as scene just by having the different ladies on to to talk about your guys' music and stuff like that. um
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It seems like you guys have a really, really good community as well that, that you know, not only just... not not only just pushing each other's you know girl power or women you know women supporting women or anything like that, but in general, the music scene seems to be pretty pretty good out there.
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Independently. I believe that. I think I have never felt anything but support from the people in Los Angeles and the community that's there. There definitely is like a strong group of people who just, we all lift each other up. If we hear there's an opportunity that's going to fit one of our friends, or at least for me, if I hear something that I'm like, oh, my friend would be sick for that. Like I always recommend people. I just love um everyone. coming up together. And I think it's super important to have that community and to put your friends forward for things. Cause that's why, why, you know, that's what friends for, right? Yeah. That's what you got friends for, you know, to, to, you know, just share success, you know, and there's plenty of, plenty of stages.
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That's for sure. Yeah. You know, there's no shortage of stated stages. And I'm a, I'm a huge, I've always been a huge fan of independent artists in the local scene. I, and i man, you guys are really starting to kind of take over the airwaves, ah whether, you know, Spotify, whatever, um social media in general.
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I mean, that's all I listen to anymore, mainly all former guests, but through former guests, I, you know, other artists similar to that are put into my algorithms or put into, and and I love it, man. There's some, you included, obviously, very talented songwriters. And I think that for a short time, I'm a big music nerd. I think here for the last 10 years or so, we've kind of lost the songwriters, the good songwriters.
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It's more about, oh, I got a catchy hook and a beat. That's great if I'm at a club and I'm not really paying attention to the music, but if I'm driving in my car, I want to hear real music. So shout out to you guys, yourself and other artists that are just out there killing it.
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Thank you. Run in yourself braggggeds ragged, you know, the starving musician thing or artist. Hopefully that's not true. but No, I mean, I am starving, but it's not because i'm a musician. It's because I haven't had lunch yet. That was a really bad joke, but that's okay. yeah you know hey we We're here.
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I could hear my stomach rumbling and I am wearing a mic. I'm like, if that comes through, they'll know I'm hungry. I don't hear it, but that's going to be a first if it if it comes through on the audio and when I upload it. and Unfortunately, I'm not smart enough to know how to edit that out. So we'll just we'll just pretend like it's like construction going on outside or something. Love it. and oh for For you, speaking of the songwriting, for you, where does your songwriting come from?
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Honestly, it comes from real world experience. So all of my songs relate to an experience that I've been through or person. Most of my songs I could attach a name to. ah it's very It's all very personal of things I've been through or how I'm feeling in the time. um That's mostly where I get my inspiration from.
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You ever catch any flack for that? If somebody hears a song and they're like, hey wait a minute. I mean, i definitely, there are some that are a little more obvious, but I don't, i i think the people who have figured it out, us I'm about to throw some absolutely massive shade right now, but the people who have figured it out are so narcissistic anyway that I don't really care. this is is so So they deserve it is what you're saying. Yeah, I mean, look, I don't really, I think if anyone's lent an ear to any of my songs, I don't have like a love song.
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I don't have anything that's like a positive experience. So, and it's obviously it's from my perspective. So everyone says two sides to every story. But yeah, I feel like if you're listening to my songs and trying to figure out if they're about you,
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I'm sorry, man. Like you probably know that you did something. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Like, i you you know, you did something. so like, yeah, yeah. You deserve it at this point. I was at, um,
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Oh, I'm probably going to make myself look like an idiot. I think it was Carly Simon back in the day. It was. Yeah, You're So Vain. Yeah, that's every time. I've i've been asked by one person in particular.
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There was another one, too, that was like, did you write this about me? And like 90% of the time, I'm like, no. they They can't pick the one that was about them, which is if even funnier. But it's like, you're so vain. Yeah. I don't listen to people's songs that assume they're about me. yeah if did date So I don't know. I wouldn't think and I was special enough for someone to write a song about. That's just me. So maybe that's something that's a reflection of them.
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right Well, you know what? that's That serves them right. I mean, if they messed up that bad, and like you said, there's there's always two, there there's I like to say there's three sides to every story. There's his side, her side, and then and then the truth.
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Yeah, you know. So you know what? This is your, you know, it's therapy. It's kind of like therapy. Exactly. And that is exactly what, for me, that's what my songwriting is. It is my therapy.
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ah It is how I explain things. It's how I work through things. I used to have a lot of trouble discussing my emotions, so I'd put them into a song. I'm a little bit better at it now, but again, there's just some things that you can't really talk about, so you put it into a song instead. And I think that's very helpful.
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i think I think it's so much easier when you can when you have when you have an outlet like that, whether it be sick a singer with songwriting or even an artist.
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you know They can put their ah therapy into their paintings or their drawings or or whatever. As an entertainer or an artist, when you have that outlet, it's it's also a lot cheaper. Well, in some cases, than going to therapy.
Appreciation and Challenges of Acoustic Music
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Sometimes. Sometimes it's cheaper.
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Sometimes is sometimes ah it all boils down to, oh, I need a new guitar. And that could be pretty expensive. Well, the writing is cheaper, but the production is certainly not.
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No.
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And not everything can be acoustic. No, not everything. I do love acoustic, which is why I have been, I worked on an acoustic EP, but I definitely, I love playing heavy rock. I love being in a rock band. It's just kind of is what it is. Yeah. I'd be so much cheaper if I wanted to just play acoustic.
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Yeah, right. ah You know, I am a, I am an absolute sucker for, for EP music. I love when a hard song can be brought down.
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you're probably a lot younger than I am. There's no probably about it. You are a lot younger than I am. I don't remember if you, or no, if you remember unplugged on MTV, ah I used to love that. now I was never, and I will never be a fan of, of Nirvana. I know that's, I'm going to catch a lot of flack for that, but when they did their unplugged session on MTV, I loved it.
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I loved every bit of it. And I was, it's when you can strip a song down so much to just, bare minimum and it's the guitar and your vocals, it just speaks volumes. So if you ever get the urge to do more acoustic, feel free. I have one more track for that acoustic EP and then like a kind of a demo that I'm going to drop all as once and then I'm going to move back into the heavy stuff because there have been people following me for quite a long time now who are like, when is the heavy stuff coming? I'm like, here's an acoustic song.
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that's always Yeah, you guys you guys have been you guys should been around for a little while. Have you had the same members in the band the whole time? Yeah. Yeah, so i so I started the band. It's my it's it's not really a band. um okay I like to present it as a band, but really it is a solo project and then I bring people into it.
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um I started it in in March 2014. ah The drummer that we use is my here's my brother. I'm convinced we were related in another life. We've been working together since 2015 and he is still one of my collaborators. i always, he's always the first pick for gigs. He's always just like, I don't know. i
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All right, chat, you're going to tell me how to think I froze up or we just completely locked up. I don't know what happened. we love Okay, we lost Leah. Okay, we'll get her back. Don't worry, we'll get her back. i didn't know if that was on my end or if that was something else.
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but so Sorry, I kind of froze up there a little bit because I wasn't sure and I went into panic mode. As you guys know, there have been a lot um technical difficulties on my end, but everything seems to be working again. But no worries. No worries. We'll get Leah back.
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um She's talking about her solo, but I didn't realize that it was
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her alone. Well, not really her alone, but you know i mean? If you guys aren't already, and we'll get we'll get it out there. Oh, here we go. Yeah.
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So, i'll go back hey, the do not disturb feature apparently does not work on my phone. So that's nice. Sorry about that, everyone. no No worries. I was just i was just saying, i thought it was me for a second because I have been having a lot of issues the last couple of weeks.
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So... No, that's okay. Can you still see? I'm not sure if you can see my video or not. ah Your video is frozen.
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Oh, good. Should I try this again? You might have to try again. Okay, I'm so sorry, everyone. no worries, you're good.
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Do this and do that. i So there we go. We got it. Okay, good. Fantastic. I'm sorry about that. So where was I? Yes, band members. So yeah, Jimmy Lee is the band member. He's our drummer. He's who I've been working with forever.
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I did work with the same people for the longest time, um but they're all fabulous musicians. So they're now off touring the world. One of them is the guitarist in God Smack. Another one is the guitarist in The Pretty Reckless. Another is the bass player for Jerry Cantrell and occasionally Corey Taylor. so So if they're available, they will still come and play with me, but I've been looking for new players. And at the moment, um I've just added two more permanent members to the band. One's name is Aidan Thorne and he's on bass. He's a killer guitarist, but he's on bass for us at the moment. Another is Chris Borrell. He has been on tour recently in Europe with The Raps at Dolls. He's an incredible guitarist and he was recommended to me by my old guitarist, Sam Bam. So he's just great. And then I work with Patrick Windsor, who's on the other guitar. He's not a permanent member. He just, he's so busy. He comes in when he can, but he's also the person who produced the acoustic EP. And i do work with him on songwriting occasionally, like, we do so we write music together and we're also doing um we're producing a track to be released with evil walks over the next few months.
Viral Success and Band Dynamics
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So that's kind of the line up. So i had a very, i but i don't know if it's a good thing or not. i think I guess it's a good thing, but I've sort of started to go viral on Facebook, which is like nice in one way because people are discovering the music, but it's not nice in the other way because people on Facebook are savage.
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And I have had a few comments of, she must be so hard to work with. She's always got a different lineup. It's like, no, I just work with musicians and they keep going off with famous people. Yeah, you can't you can't help that you are giving everybody the golden touch. You're like, come play with Leah and then you'll... No. I wouldn't... i wouldn't go that far but yeah it's it's very funny because i you know i would 100 take full credit it's all right to be a little bit of have a little bit of an ego it's a it's a rock star thing come on you i'm australian i i can't do that i would be my countryman would be very upset with me
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no but i mean yeah that's you you you can't you you can't fault yourself obviously you know as an artist You got to, you know, when you get called up, that's amazing. That's awesome that they've gotten the opportunity to be with, ah you know, some of these big name acts. These are not nobody bands that you mentioned. Yeah, they're all killing it.
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don't forget about me if they need an opening next, you know? Oh, I would never, but um they're all great. And, you know, if they're if they're ever in town, like I still ask them, um Elliot Larengo, the bass player, he he and I have played together still like last year. And, you know, if if ever and they're in town, they're always down, but they're never in town. Yeah, right? yeah Well, it's good to be busy.
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It is, and they deserve it because they're just really wonderful people and phenomenal players.
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Yeah, i didn't I didn't realize that that was kind of a solo thing labeled as a as as a band, you know? Yeah, I wanted the... I guess when I started back 2014, female-fronted a lot... Well, I hate that term, but anyway, like, rock bands that had females in them were a little bit tougher to sell, and so a solo hard rock act that was a female is was, you know, I think we were going to be up against it So positioning it as a band, and also, like, i I desperately wanted to be in a band and have the band... be a thing because it just I like the whole dynamic and the family of touring and writing together and working on music together and I just feel like you lose that when you're doing solo stuff um but then also having it as more of a solo project where I do bring people in and we collaborate um it just also saves you from if someone decides to resign or they want to go off and do a different project
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it's having one focal point kind of saves that question of oh they've replaced this member oh are they still going to sound the same are they still gonna so i think that's kind of why that was there yeah viral on facebook i want to see well go follow leah martin brown on facebook and you'll see Yeah, evil walks. Or evil walks.
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Yeah, evil walks. We've got some reels that are getting like 89,000, 100 and something thousand. it's It's comments a lot. Yes. Yeah, I know. It's Facebook comments. are YouTube comments can be really rough, but Facebook comments are like, can someone please come and get their father? just Yeah, there's ah it's the wild west on on social media, unfortunately. Fortunately, we haven't reached that level where where we have to deal with the asinine comments. Also, i do have the fact that, you know, I look like a Sasquatch. So hopefully, hopefully ahll you know, and unfortunately, like you said, much like the music, you are you are a a female artist. So there are a lot of people who weren't taught manners growing up, so to say. Yeah.
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I just think people have forgotten that there are real people on the other side of the screen. And a lot of the time those people would never say that to your face because honestly, if I got like, not that I'm saying I'd assault someone, but if someone said some of those things to my face, I would really strongly consider punching them in the throat, but I wouldn't do it because that's illegal. And I'm on a green card.
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She's also from a country where everything there wants to eat or kill you. Yes. So she's tough. She had to grow up tough.
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It is a, I got to ask you, being in that, you know, you've, you've been here for a little while now.
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Differences between back home and, and the great States of America, United States of America. Yeah. I mean, I think there are a lot of a lot of differences. People assume because they're both Western countries and both English speaking,
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that they're the same and there are people who visit Australia, mainly Americans who visit Australia and just go to maybe Sydney and they're there for a few days like, oh, it's exactly like a America. I'm like, well, it's really not. like Culturally, it's very different. And I definitely struggled with the culture shock when I when i first came here. There's a lot of things...
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That goes both ways. Like there's some things in Australia that you would never do and everyone just does them here. And I'm just like, what are you doing? Like it it gives me an anxiety. yeah And then there's other things that you would do in Australia that you wouldn't do here. And I'm just like, what do you mean? but but I mean, the soda refills are something that's not political that I can talk about. And the chip the chip refills, ah the the tortilla chip refills.
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um I don't wear shoes in the house. ah That's a big thing, not wearing shoes in the house. um And then also like a tea towel, like a dishcloth.
Cultural Adaptation and Humor
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oh that That's very confusing for a lot of people. i i think I think the wearing your shoes in the house... ah yeah I was brought up in the country. So, you know, typically, and i and I work blue collar, so I work construction. So usually it's the first thing I do when I walk in is kick my shoes off. Once I grew up in a house that if I walked in with my muddy boots, I was going to get my ass beat. Yeah. Yeah.
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so I found both sides of the coin. I found some some people here are like, yes, shoes off, and others like, it's fine. like, what do you mean it's fine? I could have E. coli on the bottom of my shoe. What do you mean? It is it is very different. There are some people, and I don't stress over it. you know I used to. I'm like, hey, man, like come on. You're coming to my house. Kick kick your shoes off. you know it's It's common courtesy. Now it's like, ah I know not everybody was brought up like i with the with the fear You know, and there's times where I come in and I still have my shoes on if I'm just like coming in real quick and going back out. But yeah, but for the most part, plus I also can't wait take my boots off at the end of the day. So there's that. Yeah.
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it's It's little things as well. I think maybe my household was a little bit more strict maybe, but even something is like, there are friends that I've had for 10 years and I still ask permission if I can use their bathroom when I'm at their house. Yeah.
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Whereas when they're at mine and I don't want them to, when I'm at mine, like, you know, they, they help themselves to the fridge and they go to the, but they kind of just do whatever. And I want them to do that. But for me, I can't, I just can't be like, you know, where the fridge is. I'm like, can i have some water? Is that all right? They're like just go and get it. I'm like, are you sure? but maybe for a decade Just go and get the water. I'm like, Oh, me out yeah. Yeah. That's, that's definitely something that that's, that's, I think most people, most of my friends, most of your family, I mean, you walk in and hanging out. If you want something, don't ask me, you know where it's at. Don't like, don't, if you ask me, no, you can't have it. You know better. Just go. but
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the It's called being polite. A civil. human Yes. Yeah. yeah But sometimes with friends, like you said, if you've known them for a long time, you don't have to that, you know,
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that politeness can kind of, you don't have to be a dick, but you don't, think you don't have to be super polite about it. No. Yeah. That's, I always, not that I've had a lot of people from different countries on here, but I have had a couple and it's always one thing i always like to ask, you know, like what's the you know biggest difference and was it difficult like making that transition? Because don't know a lot of ways, depending upon where you're at in the States, um things are different.
00:35:50
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yeah yeah You know, you know, I've, ah ah I've got to travel around a little bit mainly like Midwest and the South and it's crazy just even between Ohio and South Carolina how different things are so you know let alone somebody coming here from another country there's like well it I don't know how to adapt to anything I found the sense of humour was the hardest, maybe the first year. I really had to navigate an Australian sense of humour and how we kind of operate with America in general. ah My friends, I don't have to anymore because they know me and they're used to it. But I definitely, because we're so dry and we're so sarcastic, but it's not in a way that...
00:36:37
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is experienced here. So I would find I'd say something not thinking and people would either take it seriously or they'd be really offended or they wouldn't understand. They're like, what? I'm like, and it feel like that sorry i'm just making a joke calm down yeah yeah and they feel like uh you know because we like to make fun like not make fun of but we we have like banter so if we really like someone and we're like we we insult them like friendly in a friendly way nothing that they would be like worried about or something that would make them insecure but australians definitely if we're making fun of you we like you And so that's something that I really had to dial back while I was here.
00:37:15
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And so when I go home now, I have a bit of a, probably a few weeks where i have to like code switch because they still do it at home and I don't really do it anymore because over here, it unless they're British or Australian,
00:37:30
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it still doesn't land. They really understand it. And I obviously would never want to hurt people's feelings. So having that code switch and then having my family, I'm like, what you mean to me? They're like, do you mean? You've been there for too long. I'm like, oh. Yeah. Again, I think that varies on the States because I know where I'm at and where I'm from. If I'm not messing with you, if I'm not picking on you, don't like it.
00:37:51
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You know, the same as you said. And I was telling you earlier, I think we were talking behind the scenes, you know, we do our Saturday night show and that's 90% of our show. It's just everybody breaking balls and busting balls and and and just messing with each other the entire time, you know? So, yeah, I think it just depends because, i yeah, there are some states sitting, like Dead Noise Media said, North Carolina just going to South Carolina feels like going to another country. South Carolina is a special breed. I spent 10 years down there. It is... ah
00:38:22
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it's It's an interesting spot of the country. I need to travel more in the States. I'd love to go to the Carolinas. I'd love to go to the South a bit more. like I've spent quite a bit of time in Cincinnati. um I almost moved to Cincinnati, actually. you're a little road from me. Yeah, so I would love to travel.
00:38:44
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yeah Have you got to do outside of... I don't know why why why you would come to Ohio, of all places, but... Yeah, I've been to a fair few different places. I've been up and down the West Coast. I've obviously been to Vegas. I've been to Reno. I've been through parts of Arizona. went on a tour. I got hired on as a rhythm guitarist and vocalist for a pop punk band at the end of last year. So I got to see some of the East Coast. I've been to New York. I've been to Wichita in Kansas. Yeah.
00:39:17
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yeah, but I, I'd love to do more. I, I'd really love to do more. And with new music, I'm really hoping that maybe we get picked up on some of those bigger festivals. Cause it'd be lovely to come out and visit all our fans out there. Apparently, according to the people who talk to me online, we have quite a few over in Texas, uh, Fort Worth, actually, uh, the East coast.
00:39:38
Speaker
Yeah. Well, we would love for you to come back to Ohio and, and, and mainly, know, so we can, I would love to come see you, see you perform. Um, yeah. Uh, So yeah you don't have to stay very long if you don't want to. This place is kind of weird. i love Ohio. i honestly, i loved Cincinnati. I used to visit there a lot, a lot, and I almost moved there. um And then i was in...
00:40:02
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Oh God. I played at the house of blues, uh, in Ohio in November, um, Cleveland. Yeah. We played house of blues in the Cleveland room. I think it was amazing. Like we just, the people are so kind.
00:40:17
Speaker
It's, I really enjoy the, the hospitality. I just, everything about Ohio. I've really enjoyed my boyfriends from Ohio. So yeah, it's, it's one of those things. Uh,
00:40:31
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um born I'm born and raised here. you know i Do I love it? Is it home? Yeah, but also part of me, it's like, ugh, the winters suck. It's miserable. The winters are rough.
00:40:42
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Yeah, then the summer rolls around, and it's 5,000 degrees outside, and the humidity's at 400%. It's just like it's just like just a happy medium. It would be fantastic. But for music and sports, I mean, there's there's a lot of great venues. I'm i'm down in the central Ohio area.
00:41:00
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close to Columbus, and there's a lot of great venues and places to play from Cleveland all the way down to Cincinnati and everywhere in between. And it's, it's, I'm a country boy.
00:41:13
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and And even, you know, I avoid the big cities, but there's is still enough rural cities and, or rural towns and stuff like that where I don't have to be in the big city. So it is one of those one of those magical little places if you happen to like it. Yeah.
00:41:29
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Yeah, I have nothing but good things to say about my experience in the two places in Ohio have been.
00:41:37
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it Which are two places that have been known for, yeah they've they've really, especially cincinnati the last several years man i don't know what they did down there or where they got the money for it but cincinnati's fun to go to now i mean i had great time in cincinnati i i spent a lot of time there i really liked it um it was great and like that covington like just top of kentucky green great great love every experience i've had in kentucky i've had a great time whether it was covington or also um
00:42:08
Speaker
Oh my God. I went somewhere else in Kentucky and everyone's like, how did you end up there? And i was like, I don't know. It happened. Knoxville. Tennessee. Tennessee. Knoxville. I don't know. Somewhere that there was a a water polo game and ah and a and a university.
00:42:25
Speaker
could have been Knoxville. That's where the university of Tennessee is Yeah. Not Kentucky. I got a bit ki confused there. i was like, hang on a minute. I remember everyone everyone staring at me because i had a very I had an Australian accent and I was in a Walmart and I had red hair and they're like, what is this? Who are you?
00:42:41
Speaker
You definitely stuck out a little bit. I did. I definitely did. it was it was a very like The town was quite small. So I think everyone was like, what is... Where are you from?
00:42:54
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What is happening right now? Yeah, where are you from? Somewhere down south? A lot of fantastic bands and artists have come from Ohio. Yeah, man, Dead Noise, a lot of them have.
00:43:06
Speaker
Unfortunately, Ohio artists and musicians don't give me no love. I'm in your backyard. But that's okay, because a lot of really kick-ass people do from other places. so Also, hello, Dead Noise Media. I really appreciate you being in here and watching this. I saw your name pop up earlier, but we were in the middle of a of like the the talking, but thanks for jumping in. It's really nice to see your name. Yeah.
00:43:30
Speaker
You see, as I told you, it's all right if we go off on tangents. It happens. It's a great thing. I don't run ah a very strict ship here. But, no, I'm glad you got to experience Ohio, and I'm i'm glad that you that you liked it. And we apparently liked it so much you you you stole one of our own.
00:43:46
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, he was here. i had no idea he was from Ohio. This is not on me. it's He was already here. He ran away. yeah he ran away.
00:44:00
Speaker
I want to drag him back. So there you go. Even better. i like to speak home Good luck getting him back. I came back home kicking and screaming. I i' loved to living down in South Carolina. It was great. And I lived on the coast. So i was like, got everything I need here. It's warm all year round. The beach is right there.
00:44:19
Speaker
So um have you it a you kind of made it sound like you've got to do quite a bit, a little bit of touring and stuff like that?
Touring Experiences and Musical Influences
00:44:28
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Yes, that is ah yeah there's a fair bit of touring in my history. Evil Walks, oh well, Lily Rouge, my first project toured all around Australia. The only place we didn't get to was Western Australia, Tasmania and then Northern Territory but we went everywhere else and that was incredible. Evil Walks has done Australia, Pacific Northwest, like West Coast USA and then parts of Europe. um We haven't toured for quite some time though, I went on a bit of a hiatus while I focused on some solo work that I did. um And then recently I do occasionally do session work so there's pop punk band called Crooked Teeth reached out to me and asked if I would come on to do um a tour supporting a band called Girlfriends with them in November last year. So for November we did West Coast and we went over to the East and just had a great time. Nice.
00:45:22
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do Do you enjoy the touring aspect of it If I could live on the road, I would. i love touring. it's i just, I love touring. I love playing shows every night. I love seeing all the people interacting with everyone.
00:45:36
Speaker
that's That's part of the reason why i write music. It's because I wanna play it for people and meet the people who connect with it and then connect with them on that level. Cause I think there is an intimacy in playing music for people and having them look at you and understand the music and sing the lyrics back at you. It's like a whole, it's a whole thing. is It's a whole big thing. So I gotta ask, cause I always ask this question.
00:46:02
Speaker
What is your, and I have a kind of an idea, but what is your stage presence like for you on on stage? Well, it does depend if I'm doing an acoustic show or if i do a if I do a band show because obviously I have to dial it back. But I definitely feel I'm very engrossed in the music, so I move with the music. I've been told it's very high energy and it is very kind of powerful, I believe. um i do spend a lot of time...
00:46:32
Speaker
sprinting on a treadmill to make sure that I have the cardio capacity to be able to do all of the things on stage I want to do and still hit the notes that I'm hitting. So I spend, ah I do the pink and the Miley Cyrus trick where they run on the treadmill and they sing. Yeah. that's just Radio is very important, not only for the zombie apocalypse, but for touring. Absolutely. Just any kind of, even if you're standing still like in ah in an acoustic performance, just having that breath control and having that lung capacity really does help.
00:47:03
Speaker
think i I assumed as much just some of the music and some of the videos. that they And I think as a fan, you know, something that we talk about a lot on this show is that's part of the show.
00:47:14
Speaker
You know, you go and you you already know all the songs. You've listened to them a million times. Now you want to go for that experience and that, and you don't you don't want somebody, again,
00:47:27
Speaker
Unless you're doing acoustic because it kind of comes with the territory. But if you're coming to see a ah rock show any type of show, you want to see the artist having fun and singing around, you know, running around. Who cares if you mess a couple notes or, you know, whatever, or your voice cracks.
00:47:42
Speaker
Because if I wanted to hear perfection, I'd go listen to the albums or listen to on Spotify you know, whatever the case may be. So I love that when when a musician's like, yeah, I'm all over the place. Yeah, I'm definitely all over the place, and I'm definitely very sweaty afterwards.
00:48:01
Speaker
There's nothing wrong with that. ah there he is. Wally with his world-famous question. Who is your biggest music influences, artists that you look up to and whatnot?
00:48:13
Speaker
um So I think it very it really does vary. I have artists that are my favorite to listen to and then I have ones that I really kind of pay attention to when writing music. So originally there was a lot of AC Dixie, specifically the Bon Scott era.
00:48:29
Speaker
I love Bon Scott ever since I was a kid. Even some of the ways that I try and commute like communicate and perform my lyrics, I do it in... and Obviously not with Bon Scott's voice, but he had like this charisma about him. Evanescence, Amy Lee's voice has been a huge inspiration of mine since I first heard it when I was like 11.
00:48:49
Speaker
um We have been compared to bands like Hailstorm and Lizzy Hale. When I first started, I hadn't listened to them. I hadn't really heard them. It's only been in the last maybe...
00:49:00
Speaker
seven seven to or maybe eight years that i started to really get into Hailstorm because i just hadn't heard them before. If I'd have heard them before, I would have been. But ever since I heard them, I was like, oh, my God, Lucy Hale's amazing. So definitely, definitely seeing how...
00:49:18
Speaker
She incorporates like such strong belting melodies and makes them work within these really riffy guitars. i love the Pretty Reckless. I love the darkness and the grit that's there. But then there's also bands like Monster Magnet. I love Monster Magnet so much. They're very like stoner, grunge, metal, but... there's something like Dave Windhoff just does something to me so just all of that kind of do me and then obviously Audioslave, Chris Cornell I just think is you know one of the greatest. Love Tool, I don't know if I necessarily incorporate their music like their musical style into what we do because we're not
00:50:03
Speaker
We're not that, I mean, my guys could play technical stuff like that, but I am not that technical of a writer when it comes to that. I focus more on the melodies that,
00:50:16
Speaker
um they use and the way that they word their lyrics. So even if it's a straight four on the floor rock song, I try and think of how Maynard might work his lyrics or work his melodies into that and how he would make it more interesting or more, you know, kind of creepy and where is that...
00:50:35
Speaker
there's always that middle melody that sometimes other people don't find that he just, you're like, oh my God, how did you think of that? So I really study that and Pussifer when I'm trying to find something different, but still makes sense and is still catchy.
00:50:51
Speaker
i don't even know where to go with that. That is a lot of different styles and techniques. Sorry. I will say, you mentioned Chris Cornell in there and Man, gone way too damn soon.
00:51:06
Speaker
Yeah. A lot of amazing artists in that group. Izzy Hale is another one of them. But I loved Chris Cornell and everything he did. you know All the different bands and stuff like that.
00:51:20
Speaker
It was such a unique and different sound. you know Yes. so i definitely um Yeah, I like you hear a lot of artists kind of steer down like one avenue maybe you got a couple branch offs but you're just kind of all over the place i am i didn't even mention afi or alice in chains but they're in there too monster magnet is a band that i have not heard in a long time i am such a fan girl i love monster magnets i remember listening to them in high school
00:52:01
Speaker
ah Look to your orb for the warning is just every time that riff comes on, I'm just like, oh my God, like I just lose it. That song in particular, which is so funny because it's, you know, I don't think it was the radio hit because they had um like Hotel or whatever, the you know, come on down to the hotel. And then they had Space Lord.
00:52:23
Speaker
but yeah, look to your all for the warning is just for me, that is, that's the shit right there. Like just like mainline that shit for me. I, I think, I think they came out. mom I think, Oh man, I think I was in high school when, when they came out and I was just like um that space, space, alerts on and I was like, who and what in the world is this?
00:52:46
Speaker
you know Like where the hell did these guys come from? And speaking of, uh, Alice in chains, uh, you did an amazing cover of man in the box thank you i seen that when i was scrolling through your your your your your music and i'm like and just seen man in the box and i was like no way and i was like let me go ahead and click that button that was awesome you did a killer cover of that song
00:53:18
Speaker
like thanks um I say it a lot when when when artists, especially like independent and up coming up and coming artists choose to cover. There are some songs that and you really got to bring it or and you got to have a ah big old pair of brass ones to to cover.
00:53:34
Speaker
And you killed it. That was that was great. thank you so much yeah i i love alice in chains and i did that song when i was living in sweden over the pandemic and i just i love all of alice in chains catalog um but that one in particular at the time was really like doing something to me and i was like man i i really wanted to to do it and i wanted to do it right yeah right Is there a song that means more to you than fans might realize?
00:54:06
Speaker
and I'm going to, Ed, hello Ed. um So yeah, i there is actually. thank you Archangel.
00:54:18
Speaker
um Yeah, so i I think online maybe I've, I've probably said this, but Surrender is a song that means a lot to me. That song in particular, like i love all my songs and they're all my babies, but Surrender in particular was a very, very special song to me. i co-wrote it with Jake Pitts from Black Veil Brides. He did the instrumentals and then I did the top lining.
00:54:46
Speaker
And that song is just, when we first wrote it, i loved everything about it and it was such a challenge. I don't know why i wrote it in the key that I wrote it in. i am very upset with myself because, and it when we released the EP that it was on, it was the beginning of 2019. TikTok didn't really, I mean, it existed, but it wasn't what it is now. We didn't have, like, there was a higher barrier to entry to promoting songs. We didn't have the tools that we have now. So if it didn't have a music video and it didn't get picked up like as a so as a single, it kind of got lost. And it always really upset me that that happened because that song has a really deep message. of
00:55:30
Speaker
if you listen to the lyrics it's it's quite dark and so when i started up people walks this tick tock in november of last year because i before that i was like no i really pushed that song and it's kind of finally people are starting to hear it and i i hope that they enjoy it as much as i do because yeah that one but now i have to do it live all the time and i'm like it's so high why did i do that i think that's one i think that's the one that i actually picked in the show tonight with yes And that is the next acoustic version I have. But in the acoustic version, I took it down two steps.
00:56:05
Speaker
Oh, wow, nice. So so like I was like, I can't do this. yeah it's an f It's an F sharp above the stave. I can't do it. Well, and the great thing about it is, you know, you can always rerecord it, remaster it. You can always get it where you want it to be at, you know. And and now we do have, ah you know,
00:56:25
Speaker
So Rocky, I see your comment. going to get to it here in just a second. She brought up the social media thing. it's it's ah It's a necessary evil, as I like to call it. What are your what are your feelings with the the the so the social media monster that we have to play?
00:56:45
Speaker
ah have two minds about it. And one of them is the artist's mind. And one of them is, well, I have three minds actually. yeah three So there's the artist, there is the personal and then there is the business, right?
00:56:59
Speaker
So from a personal standpoint, I just want to go back to the days where we had private profiles that our family could see. And if I wanted to upload a photo of my dog or my plate of tacos, I could do that and that's great and if everyone's like oh delicious this looks great I wouldn't have any random bot comment just being like oh this must mean you support this political party it's like it's fucking tacos what do you mean um like it's just and then from an artist ah from an artistic perspective I think it can be like purely artist it it is a little frustrating because you spend
00:57:34
Speaker
like hours is in it, like to get to the point where you have songs that are, in your opinion, good enough to be released, it's 10,000 hours plus of practice and learning and decades of your life in my case. um And then it all depends on if this small snippet with this little video people connect with who, and that's, that's one thing. But I think from a business standpoint, um, we are in a very uniquely positioned part like we we are very uniquely positioned at the moment because there is an opportunity to reach such a wide audience for free that we could not do before
00:58:16
Speaker
to get the level of interaction and growth and so actual organic streams on a song from just posting videos that you make for free on your phone, that's never been possible before. It used to be, oh you have to make a music video, which costs anywhere between, like, unless you you have friends who can do it or you figure out how to, you know, if you're going to do it properly at the professional level, it's going to cost you at a minimum $2,000 to $5,000 per video.
00:58:47
Speaker
at least. And then you've got to promote it and pay for ads. And that was before. And then if the gatekeepers didn't let you through or you didn't get a late or you didn't have a label, you had to literally get out on the road and just gig and gig and gig, which is great. But if you have to pay your musicians, you have to pay for a van, and you have to pay fuel, you have to...
00:59:06
Speaker
There's all these prohibitive costs that meant that there were truly great artists who maybe couldn't get to where they deserved to be because they just didn't have the money because they needed to, you know, pay their rent.
Social Media's Impact on Artists
00:59:16
Speaker
And i think having access to social media does remove some of those barriers and it is...
00:59:25
Speaker
frustrating and there's a toxic element to it and I think it is very impactful on mental health especially if you're scrolling and seeing all this negativity but on the flip side there are so many opportunities as artists that we get from it and so many connections like you for example yeah I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for social media yeah you're like i would I wouldn't have a bunch of these beautiful people that I now call like online friends or fans if I hadn't posted my shit my silly little song so yeah that's my three points of view which is way longer than you asked for and I'm sorry
00:59:57
Speaker
I'm just I'm just a guy that turned the show on this is your show. It's all about you It's i tell i guess it's all about you. i had to learn that lesson real quick, especially with our dear friend Jules who just takes over but And gotta love her because she does she she just like i said, she just kicks the door down and she owns the place it's dream The show's not about me. i just I just make it all happen. It's all about you guys. But no, I love i like that that point of view because you know outside of doing, you know if you have a day job and then your music career as well, social media in a way almost becomes a third job you know and in any any form of entertainment that you're doing, whether it's music or comedy or
01:00:47
Speaker
movies and television or even something as simple as this. You know, hell I thought this was going to a piece of cake. No, this is a lot of work in podcasting. So, yeah you know, it's and that's why call it a necessary evil because, yeah, unfortunately you have your your good sides of social media and then you have your bad sides. And yeah i've I've fallen in that hole myself, you know, like morons saying the goofiest shit that shouldn't faze me. But it that it starts to, you know, when you get...
01:01:16
Speaker
20 comments from from jerk offs that have nothing better to do with their time. It's just like oh It wears you down, but i mean it happens Dead noise says surrender acoustic. Let's go You know, I do have an acoustic version of Surrender and I just haven't put it on tune call yet. i' I've been a little lazy. I was going to do it yesterday. just didn't. So I promise that's coming and it'll be released in the next few weeks. And then I'll...
01:01:46
Speaker
It'll be great. You guys will get the whole EP with a little bonus track that I've just thrown in there. hit you It's the one I just wrote in my bedroom at 2am and I decided to record. It's not particularly great, but then I can say, look, new music!
01:02:00
Speaker
Yeah, throw it out there. be Feed the baby birdies, so to say. Yes, yes. And we've got something super heavy coming. I've been... working on this one particular song for like four years now. with my Yeah, i know, with my friends, my producer in ah Sweden, Christopher Wetterstrom, who's in a band called Defueled. We've been working on this song since 2022. And the last four days, I'm like, we have to finish this. So we've been going back and forth and it's heavy. It is in drop A. So I promise after this acoustic EP, I'm going to, and then I'm recording the new EP, but the actual one that's coming out. um
01:02:39
Speaker
yeahs fire don't worry it'll take rocky 20 years to get that song out uh what's the weirdest place i've found inspiration i don't know if it was weird necessarily don't know on the bottom of the ocean Like I was scuba diving and i was just floating around and then I got this really great idea and I was like, oh this could be a great song.
01:03:11
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but I'm glad that you added in that you were scuba diving. Yeah. No. Yeah. I was on the bottom of the ocean. That's a weird place, I suppose.
01:03:23
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Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's definitely not, not one of the, one of the most common places that people are going to like, oh, hey, let me get back up to the top real quick so I can chop this down before I forget. It's like, hang on, we don't have time to safety stops. Let's just go right up.
01:03:39
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And
01:03:42
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and she didn't have to insult one of her friends either, Rocky. How you like them apples? EDM Combat is a very good friend of mine. and he's also an artist.
01:03:53
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. i was giving I was saying the wrong name. I was just assuming he was Ed. I'm so sorry. yeah well we his his his YouTube channel is EDM Combat, but his actual name is Rocky. I'm sorry, Rocky. i was just assuming i read the name wrong. I apologize. i mean Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:04:16
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um I love this. i told i told you it was I told you it was going to come up. Yeah, the the AI machine that is. i mean I am.
01:04:27
Speaker
So I wrote an actual, I was going to do a post about it. I was going to do a carousel post yesterday and i wrote out what I was going to say. and I just realized i was like, I can't post um I hold the highest level of disgust and disdain for the companies that are like just stealing artists work without consent or permission. I mean, look, if you're an artist and you want to feed your shit into ai that's on you. i think you have a problem, but that's on you.
01:05:02
Speaker
I'm about to come off real horrible right now. Oh, thank you thanks so i think I, yeah, it's just stealing, stealing people's work to train something to like say that it can do a better job. um i I just think it's disgusting that music is being commodified. I mean, I know I can't really say that because I'm a professional and I do sell my music, but just that the thought of these people just putting a prompt into a, into a machine and having it spit out all these songs and then being like, I'm going to plug this to Spotify and I'm going to be an artist. It's like, that's,
01:05:41
Speaker
it's not it's not correct and it's not right and the fact that people have spent the you know their time, their effort, their blood, their sweat, their tears, their money, their emotions, in some cases they may have ruined their lives to get some of these songs because like you can't write a good song when you're happy.
01:05:59
Speaker
yeah experience you know Just to have some huge tech company come through and just be like, yeah, I'm just going to take this copyright law doesn't apply to me. yeah yeah Look, oh, you want to you want to make a cool rock song with an Amy Lee sounding voice? Yeah, sure. Here we made one. It's like, oh, and now you have to pay the money.
01:06:23
Speaker
Yeah. Now you have to pay the money on the work that you... It's a whole thing. I'm rambling, but I'm so angry. 24 of my songs have been used, but I'm really upset. That's insane. like I told you, even Arch said here, 100% completely agreeing with and Dead Noise. The AI...
01:06:47
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um ah and and dead noise you know the ai I'm a guy that hosts a music show that's all about independent artists and local artists.
01:06:58
Speaker
I have to really pay attention because, you know, whether it's myself or a friend or even my girlfriend has, you know, we hear a song it's like, hell yeah, I like this song. And then it's like, let me look into, in I've almost been duped a couple of times myself because it's just like, what the hell? And then you look at their Spotify and they've got 30 songs on there and they're getting like,
01:07:23
Speaker
100,000 downloads or listens or whatever a month and it's just like Yeah, but I didn't do anything we used we use it as a toy here on the network and that's all it is for us It's just a toy to you know, like I said, we we write songs about each other different people who are regulars in our chat or come up with us on Saturday nights, you know We use it as a goof But we're also not trying to make any money off of it yeah But as a music fan, it just really bothers me.
01:07:53
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Yeah, it's like, I mean, this is the kind, hold on. e I mean, it's like, um and this is the kind version because I'm trying, I'm i'm aware that it's going to be publicized everywhere. But it's like building a house on The Sims and calling yourself yourself a builder.
01:08:06
Speaker
Yeah. Like, you're not a builder. you You're playing a simulation where they've created everything and put everything down using, you know, and then you've just put it together on a game and it's not real and you didn't make it. Like, yeah, you made it, but you didn't make it.
01:08:21
Speaker
Yeah, you didn't really make it. I mean, as I've said before, I'm a big dumb animal. um I did the intro for this. I've done an intro on a couple other songs and then we've made some goof fun just...
01:08:35
Speaker
But never in a million years am I going to go I'm a musician. I've made all these songs. i didn't I'm just a jerk off with a cell phone that can put words into it. like I do want to make a differentiation because I, I can already hear the people being like, well, what about this? um I do want to make a general, like there is a difference between generative ai and then AI that's being used in certain levels of tooling. Like if you have a desk job or anything that's, even if you're using Claude to do something or ChatGPT to act as a personal assistant, to like because AI is here and it's not going anywhere.
01:09:15
Speaker
so I think there are going to be instances where it is incorporated in our daily life. and Someone who uses AI as a personal assistant or is just playing around on it and is you know it's not taking anyone's job, it's not replacing anyone, it's not stealing anything.
01:09:33
Speaker
I think that that's a little different. And I just wanted to make that definition because I don't necessarily want to say I'm anti AI. Like I, I know, for example, you can take a word document, put it in and have them reformat it. It doesn't have to change the words that you've written. it can just be like, Oh, I want to have this in purple font.
01:09:53
Speaker
whatever. um I think that there are definitely uses for it. um There's an app that I use when I'm learning music that I can turn the drums down or I can turn the voice down. It doesn't change the music, it just kind of separates the stems because my door is broken right now and I know a lot of musicians use this app for rehearsals and that's not really replacing anyone's job because I'm just really, I could do it on logic, but it'd take me longer or I could pay someone, but you can't pay someone every time you want to rehearse a song, right?
01:10:24
Speaker
Like every time I want to, every time I want to hear the kick just a little bit louder, I can't be like, Hey, can I give you like, but yeah, I think there's a ah lot of gray areas, but when you get into the issue of stealing other people's work to train something, that's when it becomes the issue. So I just wanted to make that differentiation. No, you're, you know you're, you're one hundred percent right. And it's wild because Not only are you hearing it on the music side. Now, I'm a big fan of of of my chat GPT. It makes my life easy. I mean, except when it's being an asshole. ah But ah you I use it for all my thumbnails.
01:10:57
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aye you know But there's still a little bit of work that goes into it. i just I just think it looks a a lot nicer. I'm not smart enough to to to put something like that together. Or do I have the time to do that? But um not only in the music industry, but in the radio industry.
01:11:15
Speaker
they're they're running into that same problem. They're using AI and going back, you know, you got disc jockeys or DJs or talk radio guys and they're using AI to learn their mannerisms, their voices and stuff like that. They're pushing guys out of the radio, you know, and replacing them with with with AI. It's just like, well, you're literally taking food out of somebody's mouth with a machine that really can't adapt And, you know, like you have a certain style that you sing.
01:11:47
Speaker
It's not going to be 100% because it's not going to feel the emotion and have the emotion that you have when you perform a song or when you write a song. And so it's it's definitely it's it's it's ah it's it's a gray area, definitely a dangerous area.
01:12:01
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um I like to use it for, you know, a tool to help me try to make things look a little bit better, a little bit more crisp, and also to help me insult my friends.
01:12:12
Speaker
So... Yeah, if look if tech companies wanted to reach out to artists and be like, hey, we're going to pay you this much money to use your catalogue to train your songs, then it allows the artist to make that choice. yeah I think the biggest issue is that they haven't done that in most cases. They've just taken it as if it's theirs. And i think that's the biggest sticking point because, you know, why...
01:12:42
Speaker
like There are fun ways, I guess, that it can be used, but it's the fact it's people's stolen data, session essentially. Well, I mean, it goes back... like i mean it It even goes back you know way back when Napster and Metallica... you know Metallica went after them, and you know some people...
01:13:03
Speaker
I'm not a a a big Metallica fan. That's just because my style, you know, I'm more Megadeth, Iron Maiden, you know, that's that's more where where i where I lean lean by my ah my fandom towards. Never been a big Metallica fan, but I can see as artists where they were coming from and why they were were angry. Because even if it was only dollars that they were losing, they were still losing money. There was other artists out there not as big as Metallica, And at the end of the day, they were kind of sticking up for it, even though they kind of came across like jerk offs when they did it. But still, you know, you can see where they're coming from. And I 100% agree.
01:13:42
Speaker
If they come to you and say, hey, Leah, we like your sound. We like your style. We're going to cut you a check every month for X amount of dollars. And you go, hell yeah, you know, do it. But they're not. And that's wrong. Especially as musician.
01:13:59
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I still wouldn't do it, but like, yeah, it's, it's, yeah, there's so many, I wouldn't even catch Waymo. So, you know, I just, I just don't want robots to take their jobs. If you all want to know what's going to happen when AI takes over, go watch the Terminator movie franchise. Oh, yeah. I've always been nice. and anytime ah Anytime I have used ChatGPT, I have always said thank you.
01:14:23
Speaker
So, want to say. I have cursed my ChatGPT out more times than I can count. Oh, you're the first to go. You're going to be the first to go. Also, Borderline cursed me out. So...
01:14:36
Speaker
I am not worried about the robots. I have seen the movies. I know how to defend myself. I am ready. Robots, zombies, whatever it is, let's go. This guy is ready. What do I hurt people feel when they hear my music?
01:14:53
Speaker
um Honestly, i don't have... I don't have a specific feeling that I hope people have. I hope that they feel a connection to to it. I hope that it makes them whatever they're going through at the time. Like if you're going through something at the time, for example, I hope that my music kind of gives a voice and makes you feel comforted. um i hope that people feel inspired and energized but then there are certain songs that are sad and like not that i want you to be sad but if you were listening to say the acoustic version of burning in silence i would hope that you connected with that and it made you feel maybe a little melancholic um i i just would hope that you have a ah connection to it so that you were able to feel anything at all really well you know the music whether music's for the soul
01:15:52
Speaker
Laughter is the best medicine and music's for your soul. So, I mean, you as as a music fan, I mean, they in some it's it's weird. i'm I'm weird. You know, there's sometimes where I'm like in a low and I'm in a funk and just feel like like shit. And it's the heavier stuff that will really kind of get me out of And then there's times where I'm like riding high, but I got to slow it down. But it's all, you know, you know that's the great thing about music is you find the songs, you find ah the artists that you really enjoy and that you can relate to at being a fan and and you can you know there' it's there for the good times the bad times and everything in between yeah it's yeah's it's i feel like music's just the one constant thing in life yeah absolutely uh what arch say uh his visual arts been stolen to train ii and they're supposed go on to get wow that's awful i'm so sorry
01:16:51
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That's terrible.
01:16:54
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photo Photography, yeah. Super integrated software, but it's a big problem when people take raw thought. Yeah. I was actually just having that conversation with with an artist not too long ago. There's a local shop down here.
01:17:07
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um and It's all local artists and photographers and stuff like that. and They said that they've actually have they have to really crack down and and and investigate photography now because they don't It looks so real. yeah They don't know and they don't want to put up an AI generated picture in their shop and sell it to $300 when literally somebody just went on there their phone or whatever was like, oh, I want an ocean view at the sunset and lightning and da-da-da-da-da. And then they print out this picture. and this man it's it's
01:17:40
Speaker
Be prepared, ladies and gentlemen. If you have friends like me, become very close to them because we know how to take care of the AI and the robots.
01:17:51
Speaker
No, I think you've had the the biggest opinion about AI out of all the artists I've i've talked to. and i think and And there's nothing wrong with that because I like to hear it, you know especially as ah an artist standpoint.
01:18:09
Speaker
But also, i think you're also the first one that that I've heard of that their music has basically been stolen. Your voice, so to say, has been stolen. So you should be allowed to show that how you want.
01:18:22
Speaker
Yeah, honestly, i probably should have censored myself a little bit more and I'm like, I'm to get some DMs. But then if I'm really, you know, you have to stand for something. And I just, I don't believe that artists should have their work stolen without their consent because it is theft.
01:18:37
Speaker
It would be, ah and again, i mean, for me it wouldn't be, but I think there would be a different conversation if these companies had come out and they have money. Like, they have so much money. They're also busy, like, you know, anyway.
AI in Music: Challenges and Criticisms
01:18:50
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But, yeah, I have a very strong opinion on it and I understand that there are people who have an opposing opinion or doesn't think it, like, they don't think it matters.
01:19:02
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um But I just don't, maybe they just aren't. Yeah, i i I'm just going to stop it there because I have nothing polite to say past that point. i I'll say this.
01:19:16
Speaker
For those who are are on the side of the AI, two things. They're not educated enough. They don't really know what they're getting into and what they're talking about. But also ah from an artist standpoint, and and and if I cross a line or step too far or whatever,
01:19:32
Speaker
ah they haven't lived the life that you've lived. They don't know what it's like to spend hours writing songs or years, you know, writing songs or the grind of getting out there and busting your ass to have your music, whether it's on social media or before the, you know, the rise of social media, you know, you're trying to get your music out there, you're on the road, you're touring.
01:19:52
Speaker
They may not know what all goes into it, how much sacrifice and dedication that an artist has put into it and they're like, yeah, I don't know what the big deal is. Well, go live that life for two years and see what your opinion is about it. yeah i Yes, I 100% agree. And look, if if there are kids who want to, like, make a cool song that they like, and that's, you know, there's there's nuances to this as well, but again, it comes back to the stolen art.
01:20:22
Speaker
yeah It's just... there's nothing inherently wrong if the art was purchased like the sims you purchase the game there's nothing wrong with building a house in sims like it's fun you get to do it it's cool have to be like look at this thing and that's great be paid money for the game yeah like the people who designed the game got paid too they were on a salary so and unless until that element's there then the fun part of it for like the people who aren't just trying to game the system and release it and do all this stuff. Like if it's just for fun, and like the stolen element is the issue here for me. That's the biggest part.
01:21:00
Speaker
Well, and you're victim of it. Yeah, 24 songs. It's not one song or two songs. It's 24 damn That's insanity. 24 originals, 36 overall.
01:21:14
Speaker
See, yeah. that's That's just insanity right there. Including live performances. They pulled some live performances of me covering songs, which means that they're training on not just a recorded voice, but a live version of a voice, which is terrifying.
01:21:29
Speaker
Yeah. there i It's just wild to me that there's not any anything out there to protect you guys because like I played your song to begin into the show.
01:21:39
Speaker
I'm going to play another one of your songs at the end of the show. Before I had this down, this episode downloaded, uh, I'm going to get a thing from YouTube and Facebook telling me that, ah you know, where we we can't monetize because of this or that. or there It's not a strike, but it's a copyright, which leads me to it's cool if we keep playing your music down the road, right? Here on the network. Absolutely. i See, that so I love that. i love I want as many people as possible to hear my music. I really do. And, like, you know, we're artists. We just want people to hear our music. Yeah.
01:22:14
Speaker
so Suck at YouTube. Yeah, YouTube, please let Glick play the music for Evil Walks or Liam Ant Brown or whoever, Lily Rouge, whatever he wants to do. I give him some consent.
01:22:28
Speaker
No, yeah, I think it's wild that they can do that and there's no repercussions or nothing. They're just like, yeah, we're going to go ahead and take it. Sucks to be you. yeah i hope that that changes in the future and there's guardrails and you know better things are put around it um but yeah i i unfortunately do well not unfortunately i have a very strong opinion on on it and maybe i've said too much but you know i'm i'm feeling particularly raw because i only found out 24 hours ago about the songs so oh wow so it's still fresh the wounds yeah the wound's still fresh where where does the line floating down with me come from in surrender It's currently my posted played song of the month, by the way i i
01:23:11
Speaker
love that. That makes me so happy. Thank you so much. I'm so glad that you enjoy the song. um So Surrender, its that line fit into what I was talking about, but it was inspired. I was reading a lot of Stephen King at the time.
01:23:27
Speaker
So we all float down here is this reference to it by Stephen King. And you could be floating down with me is another like call out to that line being like, you know, you could be down here because this song itself is kind of about mutual destruction. It's about like being in a really like dark, bad place. And, you know, kind of going too hard and wanting to take someone down with you and being like, well, why don't you want to be down here with me? Like, we all float down here because Pennywise, when he's calling out in the gutter is like, you know, you will float down here. You know, and, you know, it's in like the other world or in hell or wherever you want to imagine. So that's where that line comes from. Nice. You a horror movie fan or just Pennywise? love horror movies. Actually, that's Hellraiser. Ah,
01:24:17
Speaker
Yeah, I'm a big horror fan. Nice. Can't go wrong horror movies. Love them. no Love them.
Horror Movies and Musical Interpretations
01:24:24
Speaker
And books. I read a lot of horror novels, too. Oh, nice. I don't read much. I'm not a big fan of reading. But I do enjoy horror movies I've watched them my whole life. Yeah, um yeah I was going to ask you about the Pet Sematary song.
01:24:42
Speaker
Is that... It's a cover of the Ramones Pet Sematary. Okay. I yeah started to listen to it as i was as I was thumbing through and I was like, this sounds awfully familiar.
01:24:57
Speaker
Yes, I love The Ramones. I love the movie Pet Sematary. It's also my favourite Stephen King novel. It's actually one of my favourite novels. I think it's terrifying. And when listening, wanted to do like one cover for the acoustic EP. And when I was listening to Pet Sematary by The Ramones, like it's really upbeat. And it's like, but if you listen to the words, to me, the lyrics are sad. So I wanted to do my own like sad girl mournful interpretation because I just can't have things be happy around me.
01:25:29
Speaker
I want, that's what I'm definitely going to listen to. I, I, I was, ah I'm not a huge fan of the Ramones, but I did like the Ramones and there's one do over Richie. If you're, and were if you got your ears on, I would love to have you back.
01:25:47
Speaker
That was one interview that I got super excited for, but unfortunately, couple guys that you no longer hear were fronting that interview and it got sideways real quick. And I'm like, god and that's one I would love to have back. Cause Richie was so cool with all things considered. um But yeah, um but that's what I'm definitely going to check out. Like I said, I started to listen to it today when I was coming through trying to decide which song. And i was like, Nope, I can't have another song that I can't decide what I want to play tonight. Yeah.
01:26:20
Speaker
Yeah, it's definitely it's definitely one to like listen to with like the mood lighting on and like ah lighting a candle. that Nice. ah Horror, is that what you're referring to, dead noise? Horror being the best genre out there? I agree. Plus, it's one of the only genres of movies out there that has a lot of sub-genres.
01:26:40
Speaker
All the different slasher and gore and monsters and even horror comedies that are out there. Yeah. you know Whatever you're in the mood for, you can find it in the horror category.
01:26:54
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It completely re-indicates the song for me.
01:27:02
Speaker
I'm glad. I'm glad that re-textified the song. Maybe when you listen, you can hear that. Oh, Backrooms was great. I really enjoyed Backrooms. um VHS is great, too.
01:27:14
Speaker
Love all of that. the the vhs found by The VHS franchise was an ah an unexpected good franchise. I threw that on when wait when the first one came out. I threw it on one night. i was like, i'm just going to throw this on and fall asleep.
01:27:31
Speaker
Yeah, that didn't happen. It was a good It was really good. My son actually took, he was real, I didn't know much about Back Rooms, um but he was all into it. He's almost 13 and he was all into the YouTube and the lore and everything behind it. So when the movie was, he was like, Dad, we gotta go see this movie. I like, alright, I don't know anything about it, but that movie had me fucked up.
01:27:57
Speaker
I'm still like, I'm just kind of like, I need to know happening. It was very, there were parts that I was like, wow, this is unsettling. And I like, I know the law and I know stuff about, but I was like, damn obsession. I watched obsession. it was like back to back obsession. The first night in back rooms, the second. Is obsession good?
01:28:21
Speaker
um I'm on the face. Obsession. i loved obsession. Like I, I not expect that.
01:28:31
Speaker
I'm on the fence. I want to see it. i want Now they're talking about releasing it on the streaming with the uncut version, and it's I'm like, oh, God.
01:28:42
Speaker
Oh, I don't know how they could get any more uncut, but okay. yeah But it was great. And also they gave a shout-out to, like, I used to live in Burbank, and there's this, like, really cool, like, esoteric store called The Green Man, and that's where they get the one which we should learn from. I was like, oh, God! Because I know there's much.
01:29:00
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um Yeah, all I do is watch horror movies too. I watch so many of them like that and like crime thrillers.
01:29:07
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I don't know if your mic is battery operated and it might be dying or you're getting kind a... Oh, don't have a mic on anymore. oh you don't have a mic on anymore? Okay, maybe maybe you're getting you were just getting a little bit of a robot effect, but I think it went away.
01:29:20
Speaker
Oh, yeah, no, I was hearing that too. I'm wondering if it was like the connection. No, my mic died. I took it i took it off. Oh, no. Yeah, okay. So don't worry. Don't worry. It's good now. Found footage movies. See, like I said, do you never know where we're going to go with the conversation.
01:29:36
Speaker
We love found footage movies here in this house. let's So we're all about them.
01:29:45
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01:29:51
Speaker
Back there was fantastic, but Obsession had me on a chokehold since it came out last month. seen it Damn. Wow. Wow. That's, uh, you're a bit of a, honestly, I want to go see it again. So maybe it's fine.
01:30:05
Speaker
Maybe go see it again. Yeah. So you guys are making me what, uh, you guys are definitely swaying me back on to, uh, wanting to check it out and see, see what's going on. It's very good. I think that you should, if if you're a horror fan, you should go and watch it. Oh, no.
01:30:20
Speaker
know We'll add that. We'll that to the, uh, to the list. But, um, to kind of jump back on topic, you mentioned a couple times you got the EP that's going be coming out soon. You got, what else is in store or coming up in the near future for for for you?
01:30:39
Speaker
There's so much.
New Music Releases and Collaborations
01:30:40
Speaker
um So I, back 2023, recorded an acoustic EP just for fun for funsies. I wasn't living back in LA yet. I was kind of between Stockholm and Australia. So I just released it because I was doing a bunch of acoustic shows and I just kind of wanted to have them.
01:30:55
Speaker
so And then I never got to release it because I went on a bit of a side quest and fronted a project that was co-written with Mutt Lang. So I just did that. that was not That was like a pop rock thing. And so that has kind of come to an end. That album was really fun and I really enjoyed that. But now I'm back on my bullshit with Evil Walks. um So I'm finalising the acoustic EP. I'm going to release...
01:31:19
Speaker
Surrender acoustic is next and then I'll release the full EP along with that with a little extra bonus track. I then have another super heavy song. um i'll I'll drop the name, it's called Ichi from the Inside. I'm going to be dropping that one I think we're pretty close to being done. So I'll probably drop that one in the next eight eight to 12 weeks.
01:31:41
Speaker
And then starting July 17th, I'm going to be in the studio with producer Hiram Hernandez. He does code words, Pink Noise. He just did Say A Sin, As I Lay Dying. He's amazing. I've been writing with him now for just over a year. and so we're going to go into the studio and do a five track EP.
01:32:01
Speaker
So that's all booked in and ready to go. And then that's going to be the new Sound of Evil Walks. so And there is one more track as well that I'm working on with Patrick Windsor and a few more. But they're just kind of coming out in the interim while I really focus on getting this EP done. And there will be videos for that. There'll be a full professional, like,
01:32:20
Speaker
everything these other ones are just to make sure everyone who's been so kind and following online and listening to me post surrender eight times a day they get something new to listen to but you you gotta feed the algorithm monster unfortunately yeah and look it's luckily we have like 26 27 songs so when people hear that they can go and listen but people who've been fans for a long time are like do you have anything new like i do but they're not ready ah Yeah, no, that's always always the thing. Like, yeah, it's it's in the works. I promise. It's coming. Just hang tight. Yeah. that He recommends digging the marrow if you're in into found footage of comedy. Oh, there you go. i must check that out. I haven't heard of that one, which is strange. I'm going to check that out. Thank you so much, Dead Noise.
01:33:15
Speaker
Yeah, definitely look that one up. Yeah, i was gonna i was thinking of the same thing, Arch. That sounds like a super heavy song just from the name alone. It's in A. It's in drop A tuning.
01:33:26
Speaker
Yeah, it's it's pretty intense. it's ah it's It's been a work in progress for four years just because it is so heavy and I wanted to get it right because i'm it's kind of my baby and I love it so much, but I'm getting to the point where it's, I think my producer Chris is getting real frustrated because I'm like I think I need to sit re-sing these two lines in the vocal. He's like, it's fine. like, it's not fine. And he's in Sweden, it's like a nine hour time difference. So I'll be messaging. Yeah, he'll be messaging me at midnight. I'm like, no! And then he' I'm messaging him at midnight, and it's like, he's so sick of my shit. He's sick of my shit. he hisaging them yeah he has a band called DeField. They're heavy. They're very cool. Go check them out. D-E-F-U-E-L-D. If you're into Swedish melodic metal.
01:34:14
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Oh,
01:34:17
Speaker
Let's check them out. I'm into, you know, when it comes to music, it's just, it's something grabs my ear. That's so I'm ADHD with, with everything in life, especially music. I'm i'm all over the place. So was like, if something to grabs my ear, that's, Oh, I find a lot of artists. I'm just doing scrolling on Instagram. And, uh,
01:34:40
Speaker
it's like oh what was that now i have to go back and try to find that that sound or that voice uh and and then it's then i jump in and find their catalog and listen to some of our music and then i try to shoot my shot hey you want to come on my silly little podcast i love that and i'm so glad that you contacted me because this is great um yeah hiram's amazing i'm still pinching myself that he wants to work with me so i'm very excited i i just I just locked it in last week and I'm going vlog everything and I'm probably going to do a YouTube vlog to be longer and then on TikTok because again, the whole AI thing, like even I've been accused of being AI sometimes with the videos I post, um which is really frustrating. So there'll be a lot of behind the scenes wherever possible so you guys can check out what's going on even before the music is released.
01:35:30
Speaker
And that's really cool too that that that that you guys you know artists do that that you know behind the scenes little studio shots or even the live footage or you know whatever whatever it is anytime you can kind of pull that curtain back and speaking as a you know as a fan That's really cool because you almost feel like oh i'm a part of it, you know, I get to Like this is really cool. I can see the inner workings um kind of like when they pull the curtain back from the wizard.
01:36:01
Speaker
uh coil so heavy you had to switch string i'm sure actually in in the recording we use a seven string because chris is chris is real fancy like that um i've tried to kind of test the song out live but um none of the guys play seven strings so i think we're still gonna have to finagle how we do that but yeah we already have three different guitars for our set because we have three different tunings i'm usually in We like the first part is standard. Then we do a drop D section and then there's the section that we all call the C section because it's all in C c standard or C sharp. So they have three different guitars for the set.
01:36:40
Speaker
You do sound like bit of a pain nose. yeah you do sound like a bit of a pig nose but I mean, look, if if they want to if they want to use a pedal and they want to drop it down like that, I actually have no problem with that. I used a... I had to do that on the Crooked Teeth Tour because we just couldn't fly with two guitars and yeah it was fine.
01:37:01
Speaker
bit confusing when you're trying to play like without it plugged in, but when you have it... I have a Line 6 and it's great. I really liked It's helpful as well if you want to like stay in standard and then go down. I'm a fan.
01:37:16
Speaker
There you go. You got to do it. You you know, it's it's your music. You want it to sound a certain type of way and that's all that matters. it' If it was up to me, I'd be like, no, we're all tuning down. But I know that that's really hard to keep a flow of a set. So I'm like, okay, whatever. I don't care how you play it. I don't care how you do it. I don't want to know. It just has to sound like the recording.
01:37:36
Speaker
Do whatever you like to get there. If you want to play everything in standard and you figured out how to do that in like all these, that's totally fine by me. I am not a diva like that. As long as it sounds like this, I don't care how you got there.
01:37:48
Speaker
yeah just get Just get there. That's all that matters at the end of the day. yeah Yeah, just get there. i'm not goingnna I'm not going to be a princess about it. I'm just really happy that you're on stage with me and very grateful for your time. so yeah so our angel said, yep, I have a friend who uses that for gigs as well. ah Yeah, that'd be great.
01:38:08
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Yeah, sometimes you just, sometimes you just got to do it, you know, like you said, as long as you get the sounds you're looking for and it's easier, ah especially when you're touring and you're traveling, know, it's not always, you can't always bring four different guitars or, you know, no, no, no. And the flying dates, like the, I have the XL stomp and it's like, it's like this big and I threw it in my backpack and that was my carry on. And there was some, like ah some venues I had an amp and then some I didn't and we just DI'd. And like, I know that that's not like or authentic, but like it worked and I was still playing the guitar, so it's fine. And also like, if they want to pay the excess baggage fee, that that's on them.
01:38:50
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yeah that's that's That's up to them. so I got ask you. the Where did you get the name for Evil Walks? So that
Band Origin and Future Goals
01:39:00
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was a funny story. i am a huge um ACDC fan.
01:39:03
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he And when I was originally trying to name Evil Walks, i was kind of looking at all these different band names. And the manager I had at the time was like, what you should do is you should get a list of all of the songs of all of the bands that you like and go through and see if there's any words from these songs that pop out. And one of them, even though it's a Brian Johnson song, I love Brian. I am more of a Bond a bond girl. But um one song I really love is Evil Walks.
01:39:28
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and it's kind of about like this evil woman who has like you know is she it's that whole like 70s, 70s, 80s trope of the evil woman who ruins your life and at that point in time i was playing the character for Evil Walks that it was meant to be like female ACDC so I was kind of looking for a character to step into because obviously the person that is on stage and presenting is different to the person that's at home or hanging out so i was like that's a really cool character that's like playing off that stereotype and then my my manager's like but you're not really evil like you're a really cool person i was like am uh but he's like oh what about what about like love i was like yeah like love or like oh love backwards like evil or short for evolution evil walks oh my god that would be sick so acdc and my manager reminding me i'm a good person
01:40:23
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I just want to be evil so bad. just want to be evil, but I can't. Thank you so much for coming in. What's up, MoDog? How you ah yeah so i was I like and like to the name, but I like how you did it with the love backwards. and I wasn't sure if there was a reason behind that or you know anything like that, but I like that. That's cool. Thank you. You're not.
01:40:51
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you know I like the manager. You're not evil. Stop it. Yeah. I'm like evil. like like I'm playing Baldur's Gate right now and like I'm literally like such lawful good, it's embarrassing. but but like i can't even be evil in a video game. like I feel bad for the characters. I'm like, no, I can't do that. I'll go and save your puppy even though it'll take another seven hours.
01:41:13
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Sometimes it's fun to be evil though. I just feel bad for the characters that aren't real. Yeah. Sometimes it's it's it's fun. It's all right to dance around on there.
01:41:27
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but ah Coolest name and cool backstory. Thank you. Yes. Both.
01:41:38
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Both. So my band's name is Evil Walks. It is a solo project, but it's also ah ah a band at the same time. That's E-V-O-L, like love backwards. Walks goes for a walk. And then I have a solo project that I just worked on under my name, Leah Martin-Brown. It's more of like a pop rock thing, and you can find that online as well. And we have and we have both the band and Leah tagged in everything on social media. So you guys, if you're following us, you can find her or like she said, Evil Walks or Leah Martin Brown.
01:42:15
Speaker
Really easy to find, I promise. it was very i vaing yeah It was very easy to find and tag you in everything. Thank you. that is That is the goal. That is one of like Musician 101. Are you easy to find?
01:42:30
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Yeah, exactly. Do you, would you like to eventually lock down Evil Walks and have permanent members um for not only the studio, but obviously like touring and and whatnot?
01:42:46
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100%. Like my drummer is permanent. The only thing that stops him from being fully permanent is he decided to pick up and move to Seattle. ah So he comes down whenever he can. And I always call him first because like to me it's our band. But if he's not available, I do have another drummer named Zach Morris that I call up that I've also been working with for eight years or so. um And then I just, as mentioned, Ava Thorn and Chris Morello.
01:43:17
Speaker
they are now permanent they they're working in a we go right set up then now like guitars patrick I just always use him. um I'd love him to be permanent, but he he is a little too busy. So I'm still looking for that second guitarist or even a bass player. And then Aiden could play guitar because Aiden's a sick guitarist. So just looking for the right person. it has to be has to be the right vibes. you know Yeah, that's that's the thing. Finding the right people at the right time.
01:43:47
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And and and then making not only that, but you also got to make sure that they they match and they they kind of meet what you want to do and where you're going and and share the same vision.
01:44:00
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If I was a drummer in Seattle. It's pretty nice in Seattle. She's got a kid from the 90s.
01:44:10
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Zach Morris from Saved by the Bell. Who knew that he was a sick drum up? Yeah. i wasn't going to say anything thanks mo dog i actually didn't know that reference so until you said say i was like who and then you said saved by the bell it's like oh yeah yes dave for the bell yeah zach Your Zack Morris is probably not trash, but there's ah there's a whole social media page dedicated to Zack Morris from Saved by the Bell. It's called Zack Morris is trash. And it brings all the reasons why that character was just a freaking scumbag. Oh, my No, my Zack Morris is a sweet, sweet angel baby. He's one of the coolest people ever. are So definitely not the same Zack Morris.
01:44:54
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That's exactly how I want to be described when I'm in a metal band. a sweet angel baby. he's Yeah, he's phenomenal. he's He's a beast of a drummer.
01:45:06
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It kind of kills the image. I mean, I'm in a heavy metal band, and then here comes the singer. He's a sweet angel baby. He's just a lovely human being. I can't put it any other way.
01:45:22
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that's That's awesome. Um, so I'm getting close. I want to keep you too long and I know you haven't, uh, you haven't had lunch yet tonight or today. So, but, um, what, what are your, what are your goals? I do have, mean, you've been doing this for so long.
01:45:43
Speaker
It sounds like you've done a lot and you've got to have, you've had a lot of really cool opportunities and got to do a lot of really cool things, but, For you, what's what's what's the future what that you want to reach and get to? That's great question. um And I was thinking about it when, because you know the decision to work on this EP is, it was a bit, not because I don't want to make the music, but because like you know i I am independent, so I do have to fund everything. So I just, I've done a lot of really cool things, and I'm so grateful for all of the opportunities I've had, but I'm i'm not in my mind where I want to be.
01:46:20
Speaker
And so what's next for me is get new music for Evil Walks Out, like actual new music and this new EP to give us a real opportunity now, like the pandemic's done, now everything's on. I would love to get back on the touring circuit and get back and play festivals. Like I would love, I think maybe 2027 is too soon, but I would really love to be out on some of those big festivals and just like finding dates in between to support. That's... really where I want to be. Um, you know, I'd love to hit one of those big Spotify playlists. That'd be sick. And just to the point where we're at a point where we can just continuously, you know, work on new material, release new material, and then go out on the road to support it. That's, that's my dream.
01:47:05
Speaker
There's music festivals, man. That's, that's, I'm, I'm a big music fest guy and I love hitting, uh, You go for the main stage, obviously. they're you know they're like You got your big names that are bringing putting the asses into the seat, but there's nothing better than getting there early, hitting the side stages, hitting the main stages you know early before the big bands come on there because there are a lot of amazing artists out there that one day will be on that big stage. and i think you know I have no doubt in my mind that that includes you as well, being on the big stage for you know big music festivals. I'm all about the music fest these days how I'm In the process of starting to seriously put my own together That's awesome former guests will be the only invites will be former guests of this show But I also realized it's gonna be a lot of work and a lot of money But
01:48:01
Speaker
but No, that would be that would be great for you guys. i'd i'd love to get you out this way, you know, so introduce you to the Midwest and the Midwest can get to see, you know, what you're doing and hear your music. And um and we would dig it out here. I'm sure you got a lot of fans out here already.
01:48:17
Speaker
We do have a lot of people from Ohio, Texas. We do have people like we've East coast and Midwest and South seems to be a really big part. And, oh, well, I'm i'm in LA, so I'm not going to go to Seattle. Actually, going to visit my drummer. I'm lying. But yes, i would love you to come to an Evil Walk show or if we go to the East coast.
01:48:37
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If it does work out, like just send me a There you
01:48:43
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go, dead noise. My sound guy was almost like a guitar from Memphis Mayfire.
01:48:51
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Pack of shirts. she
01:48:59
Speaker
Oh, gee. Have a good one, MoDog. Have a good chat. Before i let you get out of here, before we before we close down shop, a couple things.
01:49:09
Speaker
First and foremost, extended invite, the door's always open. would love to have you back back on down the road. It's one of my favorite things to do is bring artists back and and catch up and see where you're at and see what you're doing. So, you know, I'll, you know, definitely be reaching back out down the road and, you know, and bringing you back up as long as you're willing to. Um, I lost my train of thought. What was I going with that?
01:49:35
Speaker
Oh, there's what was going that. Sorry, squirrel. Um, don't be a stranger. If there's anything we can do to help promote music, uh, share music, uh, anything at all. If you get, if you get back out doing shows, you know, feel free to hit us up. That's what, that's what we're here for. That's what this show is for. It's all about you guys, um, the artists and promoting you guys. Um, but as I said, I'm also very bad social media. Um, you know, I'm, I'm constantly on the go. Unfortunately, I still work a nine to five.
01:50:07
Speaker
Um, But if I catch something new, I try to get it out there, throw it in the story. So if there's anything that we can do to help, please don't be a stranger. Definitely, definitely get that out there and share that out there for you.
01:50:20
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um Also,
01:50:24
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two pieces of two pieces of advice. I always ask my guests this. It's a little cliche. ah It is what it is. It's my show. I get to do what I want. Life advice for one, and some maybe something somebody told you one time or you read one time and you hold on to. And then any aspiring musicians out there or artists, songwriters or whatever, what would your advice be for them?
Advice for Aspiring Musicians
01:50:46
Speaker
I have three pieces of advice. The first two are just like general life advice and the second the the third one is going to be musician advice. Okay. As you can tell, I like to split things up. yeah Yeah, I like to say, actually, this one could go for music as well. Not my circus, not my monkeys.
01:51:07
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Yes, say that a lot. say that a lot. it's a good one. ah The second one is with all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it's still a beautiful world.
01:51:17
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I think that one's really important. The desiderata in general is just like, I think words to live by. And then i think for musicians, you definitely have to love it. It's about the love of it.
01:51:31
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And just create, like write whatever you want to write, experiment, get out there, meet people, meet people in your community, meet people online, make as many friends as possible, go to their shows. Hopefully they come to yours, but even if they don't, still go to theirs. Like stream their music, support them, just create a community around what you're doing because that's the heart of why we do this. It's because we love music and we love creating and we love to be with other creatives who are with us. So just do that.
01:52:01
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And yeah, there's ah there's always a place at the table for everyone. Just because someone else is eating doesn't mean you can't. So don't be a dick.
01:52:11
Speaker
sound advice right there don't be a dick oh thank you so much dead noise I really appreciate I'm so glad you're going to be spitting us that makes you so happy thank you dead noise greatly appreciate that this has been awesome everything everybody that I was told about you was 100% accurate except for my AI rant which if I get crucified online for that I'll be like well oops
01:52:39
Speaker
We'll come, or with the our the nonsensical network and the heathens when and our heathens, we'll come to bat for you. well We'll come and stick up for you. Thank you. Because, hey, I was just as much on board with you, and I agree 100%, and I'm not even a musician. So, you know, to hell with AI. I use it for what I use it for. Don't don't kill my AI.
01:53:00
Speaker
Kill the other AI. There's no judgment here. Yeah. No, you're an absolute pleasure to hang out with. It was great to meet you and hang out with you. Like I said, i would love to have you back again if you're interested down the road.
01:53:13
Speaker
Especially after all the new stuff comes out. I'm definitely going to want to talk to you again after all the new stuff comes out. That's going to be awesome. but yeah When we got some more songs on the board, that would be great. Yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to all the new music. Like I guess said, I'm a newer fan, so I, you know, i'm I'm still enjoying everything and getting to listen to everything over and over again on on repeat. and So it's definitely a nice addition to the the playlist. um I was going to say something I totally forgot. Oh, I got to do my closing rant. You're welcome to hang out or you can drop down and I'll do my rant and I'm going to get out of here because we're going wrap the show up with, uh,
01:53:53
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with Surrender. Yeah! my thing Sorry I got there. So, yeah. So, thank you guys for watching and thank you guys for hanging out. Make sure you all go check out Leah, Evil Walks, and or Leah Martin-Brown on social media.
01:54:08
Speaker
She's super easy to find, not hard, and if you're having a hard time and you're following us, I made it even easier for you because I've literally tagged her in everything. so Thank you so much for having me. Go stream the hell out of her music. Give her a follow. And when she gets back on the road, you might get to see her in a town near you. Crossing fingers.
01:54:32
Speaker
Yeah. um Again, thank you guys for hanging out. Glicks House of Music, your unofficial backstage pass to all things music. Tune in tomorrow night because i will be back. for Glick's Comedy Lounge, hanging out with Mika Carey.
01:54:46
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um She's a great comedian. i'm looking forward to chatting with her and getting to know a little bit more about her. And then Wally is back Thursday, I believe, with Speedway Stories.
01:54:56
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um Morgan is back, I think. I don't know what's going on in Wally's world. We'll be talking something motorsports. um And then we got a long hiatus. There's no show Saturdays.
01:55:10
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We are out of town. I don't know Wally's doing anything Friday, so you won't see us back again until next week. So appreciate y'all watching. Appreciate y'all following us. Bio.link slash Nonsensical Network. All them links are there. Leah, again, thank you very much. who was awesome meeting you Awesome hanging out with you.
01:55:27
Speaker
And can't wait to see what comes out in the future. I'm really looking forward to the new songs. I want to hear the ah i want to hear the new one. The four-year work in progress. I can't wait to hear it. gets there yeah And we're going to the flock out of here because much like you, I'm also going to go stuff my face and enjoy a little surrender.
01:55:52
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We've been talking about it. Thank you again, Leah. Appreciate it. Thank you. It's been a pleasure.
01:56:29
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Me in the strangest way I searched within the mirror to find out what I despise hundred million secrets hiding deep within these eyes
01:57:27
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So here we stand Let me embrace this darkness Just take my hand Let it wash over you My end is the beginning Stories waiting to be told The sweetest kind of nightmare Is just starting to unfold Why can't you lose it all?