Become a Creator today!Start creating today - Share your story with the world!
Start for free
00:00:00
00:00:01
Glick's House of Music: Hucklebery Road image

Glick's House of Music: Hucklebery Road

Nonsensical Network
Avatar
1 Plays3 seconds ago

Tonight on Glick's House of Music  Country grit. Southern rock attitude Zero filter  Join Glick as he welcomes Huckleberry Road for a live conversation packed with stories from the road, the music behind the madness, and the kind of backstage moments you won't hear  anywhere else.  Your Unofficial Backstage Pass starts now!!

FOLLOW US EVERYWHERE bio.link/nonsensicalnetwork

SUPPORT THE SHOWS CASHAPP $glickglick13

Recommended
Transcript

Urgent Warnings and Survival Tips

00:00:02
Speaker
I'm
00:00:57
Speaker
We'll be right back.
00:02:30
Speaker
Get the children and yourself and hide out in the cellar. By now the fighting will be close at hand.
00:02:42
Speaker
Don't believe the church and state or anything they tell you.

Urgency and Connection Through Crisis

00:03:01
Speaker
Can you hear me? Can you hear me running? Can you hear me running? Can you hear me calling you?
00:03:12
Speaker
Can you hear me?
00:03:17
Speaker
Can you hear me running? Can you hear me running? Can you hear me?
00:03:34
Speaker
There's a gun and ammunition just inside the doorway. Use it only in emergency.
00:03:48
Speaker
Better you should pray to God, the Father and the Spirit. To guide you and protect you from a
00:04:29
Speaker
Can you hear me running? Can you hear me calling?

Nostalgia and Social Media Engagement

00:05:20
Speaker
Really feel
00:05:26
Speaker
Since the children quietly For Sunday sons and daughters Will rise up and fight While we still stay Can you hear me?
00:05:37
Speaker
Can you hear me?
00:08:03
Speaker
Yeah. Hopefully that triggers some memories from, from some old words have been really hard today. You'll have to excuse me. The heat's fucking me up. Trigger some nostalgic memories for some of us old guys out there.
00:08:16
Speaker
Such a kick-ass song. And my guest tonight, absolutely fricking killed it. ah If you're not already good, check us out everywhere. Bio. dot Link slash nonsensical network. You see it scrolling down there.
00:08:29
Speaker
And I just realized that I have stupid people on this network that need to be slapped. That's neither here nor there. But like Slash Nonsense Go Network. Give us follow. Give us a like. Give us a share. Check us out everywhere. Check out all the shows. Don't forget, as always, if you guys want to help support the shows, the Super Chats and the GIFs are available there. And the YouTube, always greatly appreciated. But enough about us. Enough about me.

Meet Huckleberry Road: The Journey Begins

00:08:56
Speaker
Let's get to it. I am hanging out with a trio of some badass dudes making some badass music. One and only Huckleberry Road.
00:09:07
Speaker
How's it going, gentlemen? Cheers. I'm over here being a whip, drinking my water, trying to stay hydrated. There's like 9,000 degrees in Ohio today. soon there's like nine in the region in ohio today So...
00:09:23
Speaker
um Gentlemen, do you want to introduce yourselves for everybody here in the listening in audience?
00:09:31
Speaker
Yep. Dylan? Yeah, I'm Dylan. I play drums. I'm Robert. I sing and play guitar. I'm Anthony. Everybody calls me Twan, but I play guitar and try to sing.
00:09:41
Speaker
And we're Huckleberry Road! You can tell by the surprise. Nice. tell about the surprise nice
00:09:54
Speaker
It's not rehearsed at all. There we go. ah Guys, first and foremost, I just want to say thank you guys for coming on. Not only coming on, but this happened real fast.
00:10:06
Speaker
um As I was telling you guys backstage, my girlfriend stumbled upon your song Ray-Bans, showed it to me. We both became fans instantly. i had to do my homework, make sure you guys are real. Definitely real. And I'm i Reached out and we kind of make the big this all happen really fast and I'm super excited because in that time the song that we started the show with you guys had put out should we release it not only did you ask the fans if you should but you did and yeah i can't even tell you guys how many times I've listened to it you did a killer job plus I mean when the song came out and today
00:10:46
Speaker
it's still fitting. it yeah Very. Thank you for that. It's crazy how that the message of that song resonates today, isn't it? Just hearing it again is like, man, I heard this when I was a kid and I just really liked the song. yeah I didn't really understand the meaning behind it.
00:11:06
Speaker
Now I'm old and I'm like, oh shit, I knew what was going on back then. I know it was fun.
00:11:13
Speaker
but uh it seems like that's taken off and you guys are having some success with it so congratulations online. Thank you. Thank you for that, man. We're very excited. It was a random curveball of a song, but Robert brought

Musical Influences and Genre Blending

00:11:25
Speaker
it up to us and we were like, okay, I guess that we're a country rock band, but I guess we can cover that. And we did. and we were like, all right, let's throw our own flavor on there. And we were stoked, man. It came great. Yeah. And it came out came out a lot heavier than we originally anticipated, which is... As does most of our music. You're rock, if you couldn't tell. You guys definitely have the the country vibe, but lean more, seems like, on the heavier on the heavier side of things. hundred understand
00:11:58
Speaker
100%. Well, i mean I mean, think of it this way. If you don't think Pantera's country, you're wrong. Right. Hey, man, cowboys from hell. You know what I mean? I mean, Dimebag was a cowboy.
00:12:10
Speaker
Oh, yeah. He was. was Vinnie Paul. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that that style of Texas metal, I mean, and there's, you you can't deny the ah the country influence, you know, even in the way he played, you know, stylistically, chromatically. um And they were just they were just country boys you know They love to play metal.
00:12:35
Speaker
They were country metalheads. Yeah, exactly. you know And that's why they're one of the greatest they're one of the greatest bands of all time.
00:12:44
Speaker
We can agree to disagree. Okay. has their opinion. I'm right, but it's okay. It's not a competition.
00:12:56
Speaker
They are definitely an acquired taste. I'll say that. But if you love them, you love them. If you If you hate them, you hate them. you know and They're one of those bands that there's really no happy in between. Music is subjective. yeah you know Everybody has their own taste. Everybody has their own flavor. and there and That's the thing about music. is there's something ah There's something for everybody.
00:13:18
Speaker
you know Whatever whatever it gets you that the goosebumps is it. don No, no doubt. ah you know and and i'm um I'm such a I'm a nerd. I love music. I love all genres. And never a big fan of Nirvana.
00:13:34
Speaker
But I love Dave Grohl. I love Dave Grohl. That's the flip. Dave Grohl's a real deal, man. yep yep And he was hell of a drummer. And that's all you knew him as back then. you know He was the drummer. and He was hell of a drummer.
00:13:47
Speaker
How do you think Taylor Hawkins felt? Yeah, right. Anything Taylor Hawkins felt being the drummer for the Foo Fighters when Dave Grohl's the singer. Crazy.
00:13:57
Speaker
Yeah. you know And Taylor Hawkins was, I mean, that dude was just he' a monster amazing. He's a monster. Yeah, he was. There's so many great. great you know to hear the To hear the bands, and sometimes you you you might not necessarily like the singer, but you like the guitar player or the drummer. or you know maybe Maybe you think the guitar player's ass. It's all about you know just finding that sound that you like. and i think that's why we have are lucky enough sometimes to see supergroups form.
00:14:32
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. we We played a show. um Oh, man. It had to be 15 years ago now.
00:14:43
Speaker
we were on the Jägermeister Music Tour. wow. And you you remember you remember that tour? Yeah, I've never been to it, but I heard it. Yeah. So there was this super group.
00:14:54
Speaker
It was, well, I almost threw up on stage because Vinnie Paul was in Hell Yeah at the time. Oh, yeah. And seeing Vinnie Paul in person, I was like, oh, boy.
00:15:06
Speaker
But there was this super group. It was called The Damn Things. Do you remember them? Yeah. so Vaguely, vaguely. Yeah. It was Scott Ian from Anthrax. It was the lead guitar player from Volbeat. It was the singer and bass player from Every Time I Die.
00:15:23
Speaker
And then the drummer from and other guitar player from Fall Out Boy. Okay. Oh, wow. But it was it was the most random supergroup, but it worked. Yeah, right. For some reason it worked.
00:15:36
Speaker
it's It's crazy how they how they they you get together and you can come come up with something totally random and it just works. Sometimes that's, yeah, yeah no, but sometimes that's honestly, but well, like you guys said with the new song, it's just a complete curveball. You know, like, let's. Yeah, 100%.

Balancing Music with Real Life

00:15:54
Speaker
you never know what's going to work until you until you just do it um this show is one of those brilliant ideas that i have every once in a great a while it's just kind of kind of worked uh so you you guys have been together for a long ass time yeah these two longer than me but i've been in the band for about 10 years now and they they started over 20 years ago yeah 22 years now yeah we robert and i met in 2003 three Roughly.
00:16:26
Speaker
No, I think it was 2002.
00:16:30
Speaker
Maybe. No. so so in andy' banner in two thousand Yeah, in 2002. Yep. Yep. So that's what, 24 years now? Oh, wow. He's my best friend in the world.
00:16:41
Speaker
You know? And we fight like brothers and love like brothers. You know, but it's ah and we've done other projects and stuff like that, but we always seem to gravitate back towards each other. And there is not another person in the world that I want to write and play music with. And Dylan, when Dylan came into the band damn near 10 years ago, it was we knew that the three of us were going to be the core.
00:17:10
Speaker
I understand. You know, and we do everything, we like career-wise, we do everything together. You know, and it's it's a family. I mean, yeah, you can't you can't beat that. when you When you get a group like that where you guys, you're not just a band, like you said, you guys become family.
00:17:30
Speaker
Oh, We've been all over the country together, and, you know, I couldn't imagine doing it with anybody else. Go through the struggles, go through the triumphs, go through the work.
00:17:43
Speaker
Shovel the shit. Yep. You know, no matter what, no matter what, and no matter whatever status you have, there's always shit to shovel on the road. That's a true. market yeah It's work. and worship It's work, yep. It's one of those things. It's like once you find the people that have the same work ethic and the same the same hunger and the same drive,
00:18:08
Speaker
It's, it's um you know, you can't beat that. No, it and it kind of makes it makes it makes it a little bit easier. so it does It's not as stressful. i mean, you guys are going have your times and your moments, but it's not as stressful when you can rely and count on the the other guys.
00:18:25
Speaker
You know, if you start to maybe, yeah you know, if you're if you're having a bad day or something, you got the other two guys right there that are going to, don't worry, we got you, you know.
00:18:35
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, yeah. We all have our moments and it's it's one of those things you just gotta to you got to pull out of the nose dive and get the plane off the landing strip. Once you're in the air, once you're in the air the but the that's the easy part, is getting off the landing strip.
00:18:52
Speaker
you know It turns out every like 14 days on the road, I lose my mind and have an emotional break. And both of these guys are like, it's okay, buddy. Get your ass on stage right now. Here's some whiskey. Knock the fuck off and get up there. Is is is is the music you guys' full-time gig?
00:19:18
Speaker
No, we all we all still not quite have day jobs. It's close. We're so close. close And I can't wait for that day. But yeah, we it's a balance between the band, work, family, you know.
00:19:35
Speaker
oh yeah. We're still in that phase where we might play like the Reno ballroom in front of a sold out crowd of four or 5,000. And then the next day I'm at work scrubbing a toilet.
00:19:48
Speaker
And that's just, know, I'm over there scrubbing the toilet being like, did it really happen? Was it actually there? Was it a dream? good that's That's part of that that that grind, man. i was talking to a guest a couple weeks ago, you know, a lot of people think it's easy. Oh, you know, yeah I'm just going to.
00:20:06
Speaker
write a couple songs, you know play guitar, and then I'm going to be selling out stadiums. No, man, there's there's ah there's a tough grind that that really builds you as a musician and an artist to get you to... There's a really small gap between the two.
00:20:21
Speaker
Yeah, 100%. You know, it's... it's ah
00:20:27
Speaker
You know you're starting to click into something when it becomes work. And there is a lot of work i mean whether recording um social media stuff merch you know songwriting uh just marketing yourself getting your getting your name out there it's it becomes another full-time job you know and it's it's a lot i mean it's 14 it's you know 14 16 18 hours behind a windshield you know it's then it's you you you
00:21:06
Speaker
unload you play you pack up on to the next scene yeah you know mean and it's like your one goal is just to get your head down on the hotel well if it's it's you know it's it's it's crazy when you think about you know it's like oh i got the we're gonna go play a show but then you're like this is a deadhead to wyoming or you know we got to be in north dakota or we got to be in oregon or washington arizona it's there's a lot more that goes to it and it's it's really funny when we get back from a tour run and we go to our normal jobs and there's always one person that says how was your vacation
00:21:50
Speaker
yeah it's like

Energetic Performances and Band Dynamics

00:21:52
Speaker
don't ever call it that don't call it that i came for a vacation yeah right yeah don't call it that you know you know what's crazy is all the work that we put into it for us to come alive for 45 minutes two hours doing what we love to do it makes it all worth it yeah You know, as soon as as soon as those amps flip on, as soon as Dylan sits down at his drums, no matter where we are, we were given a gift to be able to express our art.
00:22:27
Speaker
no You know? And we're it's like, it's crazy because all the work that goes into it is all worth it once you hit the stage.
00:22:38
Speaker
And whether it's five or 5,000 people, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because it's you get to share what you've worked so hard with whomever you were in front of.
00:22:53
Speaker
Yeah. You know, yeah like you said, it's that payoff, all that blood, sweat and tears. And for the fans to hear you or even, you know, new fans, if you're at a music fest or something like that, and they're like, oh, don't know who these guys are, but that first note or first couple notes or, you know, the vocals,
00:23:11
Speaker
grab their attention and they're like, well, I was going to go get a beer. So now I guess I'll just hang out and wait. Yeah. Absolutely. And there are plenty of, there are plenty of beers on the road. and We're sitting around waiting.
00:23:26
Speaker
No, I love it. And you guys brought up the stage and you know, the performances and stuff. And I can only imagine, but what's your, what's your guys' stage presence like? I mean, that's a big thing for, for music fans. And I'm sure you guys as well be in,
00:23:40
Speaker
I'm sure you guys were music fans, still are music fans. you know Going to see a live show, that's that's a big thing for us as fans. you know Because we know the songs, we know the music. you know Now we want to see you guys live and we want to you know entertain us.
00:23:54
Speaker
I'm kind of like an ex-girlfriend. you know I just lay there. I don't know, man. Especially being a trio,
00:24:06
Speaker
it's taken a lot of revamping and a lot of, uh, you know, connection. It's, we want to fill the stage up as much as possible with enough energy. You know what I mean?
00:24:19
Speaker
It's like, we just, when we decided to go to a trio, it was, yes, there's a void you have to fill on stage. Right.
00:24:31
Speaker
we just watched a bunch of ZZ Top concerts and like, they can do it, we can do it. yeah you know It's the same thing, we watched we were at a music festival in Medford, Oregon, and we watched the Cadillac 3 do it.
00:24:45
Speaker
And that was kind of like that was kind of like the turning point for us because we've been doing it for a while and we're like, I don't know, I don't know. And watching those guys, Dylan and I were sitting in the crowd and we we're like,
00:24:57
Speaker
ah Oh, got it. Yeah, that was huge. you know It's a turning point it's ah it's a it's like homework. Yeah. know what i mean It's like when you go see when you go see just a solo acoustic artist like you take Tommy Emanuel, the dude just sit sits on stage and plays acoustic by himself.
00:25:16
Speaker
When that stage is so full of sound, it's out of control. Yeah. you know our live show is definitely an energy exchange i mean it depends on the size of the crowd once that crowd is is giving us the the energy we're we're giving it right back but we've played some fairs and some stages where there's like twan said five or five thousand we've been on the other end of that where it's five and it's like all right here's this next song now yeah five by the grandma and the kids five five Five people there. Four of them are already drunk and care less. And there's one person there that just is like, oh, there's a band here. I'll listen. Exactly. We call them corndog stages. And they help pay the bills, that's for sure. But they're not like the the ballroom where we get 5,000 people and they're just giving us all their energy. there's a
00:26:07
Speaker
It's like, it's balance. Totally. It's balance. It's back and forth. You know? it's balance of both but it's it's back and forth you know It's like you go and you play in front of a sold-out crowd and you're like, yes, I'm on top of the world. And then next thing you know, you're playing at a street fair or something. But you know what?
00:26:32
Speaker
You still got to give them a show. Yeah. Absolutely. You are there because they want you there. And it's it's one of those things you just have to be you have to be grateful no matter what. Oh, yeah. We got the Mac is back asking a question.
00:26:45
Speaker
Yeah, what's your favorite song to play live so he knows which one to listen to first? Dude, right now it's the one we just released. It's yeah it's our Silent Running cover. We're all jazzed about it, man.
00:26:56
Speaker
We can't. We played at the at a casino recently, and I think we played it four times that night just because. So fun. Yeah, that's definitely. I'd say Silent Running, and then after that probably...
00:27:12
Speaker
Maybe Troublesome. Yeah, like Troublesome. Troublesome's a lot of fun to play. High Time is fun because it's got some some sick double bass in it. So I like starting it off with that. As a country band, it's like... and nicety I mean, these days you hear double bass more so yeah in all genres of music. But I love starting it off like that. It's a kicker of a song.
00:27:34
Speaker
Gasoline is one of my favorites. Gasoline's a good one. Gasoline's one of my favorites. Troublesome. Any... Troublesome is one of my personal favorites just because I really get to dig into the fretboard and it's like, you know, I'm really wrenching the shit out of it.
00:27:50
Speaker
Yeah. you know And it's, ah it just depends on the night for me, I guess. Yeah. Just, just, Matt, just, just close your eyes and point. I promise you won't be disappointed. Yeah.
00:28:07
Speaker
Maybe like five favorite songs to listen to. Yeah. Real quick shout out to my girlfriend slash producer dropping your guys's. She's got to YouTube in the chat for anybody that's curious.
00:28:18
Speaker
Also got to link tree and Facebook. So if you guys are out there and you want to find the guys, obviously definitely go follow them. Rocky. So YouTube had an open mic back in.
00:28:32
Speaker
Somebody was reading your bio. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You guys started still show write. We started still showed in 2008. 2007? That was the precursor to Huckleberry Road. Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:48
Speaker
And then Huckleberry Road started in 2017? 16 or 17. Nope. we yeah We broke the band up in 2016, 2017. Anthony and I started playing acoustic duo.
00:29:00
Speaker
We started Huckleberry Road and started trying to write a bunch of songs. And we found Dylan along the way. and they met at a show at the Lincoln Lounge. Yeah, your other band. I was playing for a band called the Whiskey Heroes. Yep.
00:29:13
Speaker
yeah And I was warming up, and they were like, hey, what's up? They were like, you want to play drums? Hey, what's up, buddy? Sure, I'm in like three other bands, it's fine.
00:29:26
Speaker
Are you happy with your current band? Would you like to be in a new band? Yeah, that's pretty pretty much. we talk about Can we talk about your extended warranty? Yeah. And then Tuan told me to smell a rag and I woke up in ah in a basement. Now I'm their drummer. Ten years later. You know what's even funnier than that? When he woke up, it was it's his own basement.
00:29:45
Speaker
He let me in. That's true. Have you guys always done the country rock? No. Silk Shadow was a little edgier. Well, i mean when Silk
00:30:02
Speaker
Robert and I first got together, it was... I was more into, like the the blues rock, you know? Stevie Ray Vaughan. Stevie Ray Vaughan, classic type stuff. And then Robert was, like... Metallica. Metallica and Ozzy Osbourne. And so we started our first band together...
00:30:22
Speaker
I think you were 16, 15, 16. Yeah. And I think I had just turned 19. And we wanted to play fast and loud. And we didn't know what we were doing. and But you know when we started our first band, it was two of our other really good friends with us. and then we ended up moving to Chico in California.
00:30:45
Speaker
And then we kind of, it's when you're 20, 21 years old, everybody just kind of went their separate ways. And he called me one day and was like, hey, I'm moving to Nevada and I'm going to record an album.
00:31:00
Speaker
And I was like, well, I'm not doing anything in Chico that I can't do there. So he was like, give me six months. and we've been here ever since but when we started when we started still showed in like 2008 we wanted to be still fast loud heavy you know and you know sweet picking and like just getting after it and then one day robert bought this the Montgomery Gentry greatest hit CD and that lived in the truck remember that yeah and we're like hey
00:31:38
Speaker
yes and then he he really started discovering his songwriting style and it started going more towards the southern like the the southern country three chords in the truth type shit. and it's just we We found our pocket.
00:31:55
Speaker
We started to find our niche. and that's it's it It can take a long time or it could be overnight. It doesn't matter. you you can't We didn't force it. It just happened.
00:32:08
Speaker
yeah that just A lot of times that's the best way to do it. Just let things happen. Let but things grow and mature. Where it goes is where it's meant to be and you know didn't yeah at the end of the day.
00:32:20
Speaker
um you know and it's uh it's it was crazy how the the progression happened you know and we just started when we started when we started huckleberry we were just writing writing writing writing writing writing as much as we could you know throwing everything against the wall and and it just kind of uh we kind of go like this, like we want to get into the heavy riffs and stuff like that. and then we're like, Oh, let's write something pretty, which is one of the hardest things on the face of the planet is to write something pretty. It's hard to play pretty too. It is. Yeah.
00:32:58
Speaker
okay yeah Looking at you guys who don't look like you guys could play, yeah you want to play pretty or have any desire to be pretty. That was accurate. There's nothing wrong with that because you guys are my people. we oh For sure, for sure, man. Absolutely.
00:33:14
Speaker
I grew up on on Kill Switch Engage and Free King. Yeah, that's right. you know, all kinds of August Burns Red and just heavy drumming and just all that stuff. So once these guys were open and down with that, was like, oh, I don't have to, like, change my playing. I can just know fit right in and just for it. It's really funny. red It's really funny when we're on the road and we, you know, we're on the highway and we're listening to a Falling in Reverse Killswitch and all these, like,
00:33:42
Speaker
you know, metal, and then we get out and put our cowboy hats on. We're like, Hey, yeah no, hey I mean, at the end of the day,
00:33:54
Speaker
you You like what you like. And, and you know yeah you know, I say that I think, but I find myself, and if you look at my list of guests, you know, I find myself in that country, rock, blues era or area where that's, you know I always gravitate back to, you know.
00:34:13
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. Well, you know, it's, it's, it's, that's, that's how I grew up personally. You know, my dad put, my dad put a guitar in my hand when i was four years old.
00:34:24
Speaker
oh And the first album he bought me was the Jimi Hendrix Are You Experience tape. And I think I ran through like four of those cassettes before I was like, okay, Jimi's my hero.
00:34:40
Speaker
Jimi and Stevie are my absolute heroes. no You know, and it's, but it's, it's, it's all in how you're brought up. Like Robert, Robert literally studied Randy Rhodes and You know, like, and don't, don't get it twisted just because I'm the lead guitar player doesn't mean that he's not better than me.

Musical Influences and Accountability

00:34:59
Speaker
yeah It's funny to watch them in the studio together and just watch them not compete, but like they keep each other on, on their toes for sure. We hit each other we rip each other apart. guys are out The best in each other too, I think, you know? Well, and that's, and that's what it is. its them It's the, uh, the, you have to keep each other accountable.
00:35:22
Speaker
Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? You have to. if If one starts slipping, you got to pat him on the butt. He pats me on the butt all the time. He's like, nah, you're better than that.
00:35:34
Speaker
Yeah. I'll finish your cut and look up, and he's just laying on the floor like this going, nope. Nope. a We record all of our own stuff right here in this place. So it's like we we don't have anybody that's going to tell us you know, how to do it. We have to tell each other and we have to keep each other honest. and we have to be willing to go Hey, you sucked just now.
00:35:57
Speaker
Yep. Do that again. do it again. that was not it's It's not malicious. It's just, it's just, Hey, pull it together. Yeah. go it's you know It's all about, you know yeah like you guys said, accountability. and And that goes across the board in any facet of entertainment. you know If you've got people around you that are there for your best interest, they're going to call you out when you when you start to slip. Or if you're if you're not performing to the best of your ability, they're going to call you out. And you need it, no matter how uncomfortable it makes you, you need it. Oh, or...
00:36:33
Speaker
when we did our When we did the Somewhere in the Middle album, it what was that? 2022? 2023. 2023. We did that. um Our friend Colin was our not only our bass player, but he was also our producer. We love Vegas Young.
00:36:51
Speaker
Mack. Sorry. And...
00:36:57
Speaker
If he says Angus Young, I'm going to find a mouth kiss.
00:37:03
Speaker
Angus is badass. i mean You can't deny like that's how we grew up. who you know it's even Even the younger generation, I'm finding the younger generation still gravitates towards classic rock.
00:37:15
Speaker
oh yeah my my son My son will be 13 here in a couple weeks. and He talks to me about ACDC, Metallica, uh you know like uh and and i told him i said you know i can name two bands that are a whole hell of a lot better than in metallica that you should check out and he's like who's that i said check out iron maiden and mega death and yeah he's well and then it's that as well mega death and metallica that is uh that is also subjective yeah you know but dave mustaine
00:37:53
Speaker
pretty much wrote there was a there was a cassette that came out and our old bass player and our other best friend Tyson had this cassette and it was basically kill them all mm-hmm all the kill them all riffs but it was Davis it was the first Davis Megadeth tape and they have having to if you can find one of those tapes now it's all the kill them all risks yeah do you know you know's what I'm talking about yeah Yeah, because he was connected with Metallica originally. when they Well, he was he was the original lead guitar player. before he was Yeah. yeah
00:38:26
Speaker
But, um you know, then you get into the... you get into the or you Who's your favorite, Metallica or Megadeth? It's like, they're both titans, dude. it's the they both They both get it. yeah you know it's like It's like when people are like, hey, Beatles the Rolling Stones.
00:38:44
Speaker
mr you know i'm gonna pick beatles yeah but there are plenty of people like nope stones are better i'm like yeah that's it's subjective but yeah like like yeah like you said earlier music is is subjective and you know like i love old old metallica stuff um probably
00:39:05
Speaker
ah load is when i started to drift away you know maybe a little bit well you know even then load and reload they i love those albums personally But yeah, they started to they started to go they started to calm down.
00:39:19
Speaker
Yeah. You know, but you're not going to, and you're not going to recreate the same album over and over and over again. You know, yes.
00:39:30
Speaker
And Justice For All is, you know, was massive. Master of Puppets, massive. The Black Album, when Bob Rock did the Black Album with Metallica, metal they put Metallica into the mainstream. Mm-hmm.
00:39:44
Speaker
You know, and there's like the newer stuff, like St. Anger, the snare drum, the St. Anger. or i mean, we should just forget that happened. yeah well i think that I think that might have been, and and and just in my opinion, i think i think once they started to hit that mainstream is where, for me, they kind of started. No, no, I i understand that.
00:40:08
Speaker
Load and Reload had some great songs on them. Don't get me wrong. you know they still had a little bit but it was like they lost something once they really kind of went mainstream and kind of yeah kind of blew up a little bit more um but i mean that's that's bound to happen i mean i guess and and rocky asked um if you guys have ever felt pressured to become uh more commercial than you wanted to on that mainstream we've encountered it yeah we've encountered it i Yeah, I was about to get a thing as a writer for for a place, a publishing company in Nashville.
00:40:45
Speaker
And they were like, yeah, we like your writing, but you know it needs to have more you know truck beds and painted on jeans and you know parties on a Friday night. And they're like, if you can't do that, you know then we're not really looking for what you're doing.
00:40:58
Speaker
Yeah, they wanted that cookie cutter country music. ah That Luke Bryan effect, as I like to call him. check Catfish Charlie. Yeah. yeah yeah I got up in my truck, but I can ride by it.
00:41:13
Speaker
Nice. I
00:41:17
Speaker
nice na um that was to ask you guys something. Sorry, squirrel moment. Shut up, Rocky. First and foremost, I didn't mute you. check I'm on mute. Thanks, Glick.
00:41:30
Speaker
achieve I don't think I have that power. exactly Some of our chatters are... are head up with the comments in a minute EDM Combat is a member of the network here.
00:41:43
Speaker
His name is Rocky. He's somebody I have to have discussion with. I got one question for you before we get off this side tangent. Are you Van Halen or Van Hagar?
00:41:59
Speaker
I am Van Halen.
00:42:04
Speaker
But I will give Vigar Pop credit on the fact that he is a much...

Legendary Rock Bands and Musical Preferences

00:42:09
Speaker
Oh, I won't say much better. I'll say a little bit better singer than than than so than David Lee Roth.
00:42:15
Speaker
But I'll take all the antics of David Lee Roth and maybe not the greatest vocal. a lee roth David Lee Roth was a better performer yeah and a better entertainer.
00:42:29
Speaker
eat And plus, I mean, the the Van Halen... The early Van Halen era was just so raw, and like nobody had seen somebody like Eddie before.
00:42:40
Speaker
No. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter, because as long as Eddie's there, that's mean that's why I just wanted to hear the guitar riffs. and you know most Most of the songs, in my again, in my opinion, great songs, but kind of like, I'm here that three or four minutes.
00:42:59
Speaker
intro to eruption. And then after that, I'll sing a minute or two, but I'm out. Yeah. How do you feel about mammoth Wolfgang's band? I've heard a little bit.
00:43:12
Speaker
actually, I really like Wolfgang. I've heard a little bit from mammoth. I haven't dove into it yet. Like I'm, Mainly in part because the last several years, I've been all about the independent and local artists. Yeah. here just since Especially since I've, and I'm not using this in a negative light, but I and don't listen to a lot of mainstream music or radio stations.
00:43:35
Speaker
If I'm listening to music, I'm listening to either former guests of this show or guests that I want to be on this show. that's So yeah I haven't really dove into and into him, but I've heard him perform.
00:43:47
Speaker
And, I mean, if you thank God he he got some genes from his daddy. That would have been terrible if he was at it. Well, Wolfgang, he was the bass player for Van Halen for a while. Yeah.
00:44:03
Speaker
yeah the thanks player yeah and you know what i what i like about him a lot is he even though he is eddie's son go reiterates all the time he's like i don't want to ride my dad's coattails i want to do this on my own yeah you know And the dude's a savage.
00:44:21
Speaker
he I mean, he played drums on all the Mammoth records. yeah And guitar. yeah And I think bass. And sing. I think that that that shows a certain level of not all ah maturity, but also um he should earn us a high level of respect that he's like, I want to do this, but I don't want to do it off of my dad's name.
00:44:42
Speaker
Absolutely. Yeah, 100%. And that's that's awesome. I want to succeed on my own credit, you know, on my own worth. yeah he also But it's also unfair because he has the Van Halen genes. Right. but This is also true. Like, he needed to change his name, change his look. Don't tell anybody, like, drop 100 pounds, come out shredded, like, you know. Yeah. yeah Just was like, yeah, I'm not an angel.
00:45:10
Speaker
It was like watching um Taylor Hawkins' son. um at the ah the memorial concert. Yeah, was that was crazy. when he when when they played When they played Hero and he came out and he looked just like his dad. We were on the road. Yeah, when we watched that. i was heavy And I mean, i was like borderline coming to tears watching that. And I'm like, watch, give him another 10 years. He will be the drummer of the Pooh Fighters.
00:45:38
Speaker
Oh, yeah, absolutely. There's no doubt. Especially if they're still doing music and performing and and and touring and stuff. There's no doubt. Well, let me ask you guys something here. Being Metalheads, growing up Metalheads, what is your thoughts and feelings, um kind of Ozzy, seeming to be passing the torch to Youngblood?
00:45:58
Speaker
a I go back and forth. Yeah. I'm going to say it. Young Bud is a little bit too queer for taking over the crown for Prince of Darkness. He can be whatever he wants to be. That's just fine. But...
00:46:16
Speaker
he He ain't the Prince of Darkness. He ain't got as much mascara as he wants. I'm indifferent. I'm a little torn. like i i mean you did a great You did a great job singing the Aussie song. but i do I do like that song he did with Aerosmith. eight but and yeah it's I do think that he's doing really good.
00:46:44
Speaker
he is the the um but he's really good at being a rock star. Yeah.
00:46:55
Speaker
You know? um And I'll, just to go with what I just said, I'll also say that his performance of changes at the the tribute to Ozzy, that performance was jaw-dropping, and I've watched it multiple times.
00:47:10
Speaker
Yeah. Not Ozzy, and he's not going to be. Yeah. no there kind to be another that And there won't be another Ozzy. Yeah, the torch doesn't go to him. you know it's it's it's But, you know, I mean, Ozzy endorsed him.
00:47:22
Speaker
Ozzy took him under his wing. And for for somebody like Ozzy to be like, come here, let me yeah let me let me help you out. I mean, that says a lot.
00:47:33
Speaker
um He'd be a little less soft in the pants And a little bit edgier A little bit darker It's crazy, that the girls go bonkers for him Oh, they lose their mind Yeah, and it's it's nuts But, you know, he's good at what he does He's fantastic at what he does And he excels at it um It's, yeah And he...
00:47:59
Speaker
I mean he's been working at it for a while, too, because we only heard about him like, what, a couple of years ago? Yeah, I didn't realize that he's actually been doing it for a long time. But yeah, it really kind of jumped on jumped out of nowhere, especially with the Ozzy thing and the Aerosmith thing. he He really did come out of nowhere.
00:48:19
Speaker
Yeah. And, you know, more power to him. He's doing it. He's doing it. You know, and he's and he's excelling at it. And it like like like we said, everything's subjective and people love him.
00:48:35
Speaker
You either love him or you're like, eh. yeah And there are days where I'm like, yeah, he's all right. And the other days I'm like, eh. but Yeah, exactly. Hey, Rocky, you weren't muted. I've seen your your comment. And we asked about the commercial thing. It's like when Dio replaced Ozzy.
00:48:57
Speaker
Which is controversial Like You can't even compare the two The two eras of Black Sabbath Are completely different You know They they were two totally polar opposite Performers, singers I mean another I love Dio Ronnie James Dio Dio technically Was a better singer than Ozzy But the Ozzy era Of Black Sabbath Cannot be replaced No We're not interchanging singers for Sabbath and it's still being the same.
00:49:33
Speaker
No. But, you know, there were two different like these two different eras. And there are, you know, it's a different era of rock stars, too. yeah You know, but the one thing Youngblood does really well is be a rock star.
00:49:49
Speaker
You know, it's it's. You got one job. and the killing it Yeah. You have, you, you, you understood the assignment. Yeah. 100%. Absolutely. Um,
00:50:04
Speaker
you guys where did you guys's name come from i'm i've been curious about that since i first because my mind goes my mind instantly goes to tombstone and one of the greatest movie characters of all time doc holiday mr val filmer nailed it 100 that's exactly where it came from awesome yeah when i i mean that's i mean one of the most quotable western movies ever made know yeah But that moment where he's like, I'm your Huckleberry.
00:50:35
Speaker
And that is what he said. We looked up the screen. Not the right line, but it is what he said. So when he's saying that, he's like, you know, it's it's my destiny to confront you. It's my destiny to to put you down.
00:50:50
Speaker
You know, and Huckleberry was the actual term. Yeah. You know, but in the movie, he says, ok we have had this argument till we're blue in the face at least 100 times.
00:51:01
Speaker
that It comes from to say that I'm the Huckleberry to your persimmon, right? Like they're meant for each other. They go well together. Yeah. that Yeah. No, I have, but I have seen that movie.
00:51:15
Speaker
ah way too many times. I've had that argument with people. I know what the line was supposed to be, but I know what he said, and it worked out so much better. I've also quote quoted that movie way more than I should. and Various quotes from that tombstone Tombstone is arguably one of the best Westerns ever. 100%.
00:51:40
Speaker
one hundred percent you know the second to i would say the original magnificent seven the original one with uh burt lancaster and yule brenner fine sure but for our generation tombstone is the one yeah uh no tombstone is one of my favorite movies i'll watch that movie anytime i could put it on and it could be at the middle it could be at the beginning It could be 10 minutes left, and I'm watching the last 10 minutes. And then after I do that, I'm going to find it, and I'm going to watch the whole movie. yeah
00:52:16
Speaker
It's that good. It's just that damn good. Every time. Every time. I get excited like like it's the first time. But that's awesome. I love that that's in my head, that's what I was hoping for. so Yeah.
00:52:33
Speaker
Nailed it. what did what what What did you say, Rocky? Quiet Anymore is not, in my opinion, just another country song. It's about unity during a divided time.
00:52:44
Speaker
Were you nervous putting something that direct out, knowing half the fans could misunderstand it? Absolutely. 100%. Totally. you know in the We got some issues with that with our distributor.
00:52:56
Speaker
Yeah, we did, dude. We got accused of like getting fake bot streams and The day that the song released, the press we bought, the website crashed. like It was just the's just a lot of weird shit surrounding it. you know But um yeah, you know what? That song right there is meant to confront the the great divide, but it's also meant to invite both sides to the table.
00:53:21
Speaker
you know and not to make It is a political song, and I know that's not something we talk about on the show. Oh, no, no, no. so you know Two wings, same bird. Yeah, no, no. As long as you don't go on a crazy tirade about one side or the other or whatever, if you know we can absolutely dive in a little bit ah on the song.
00:53:41
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, well, the yeah, exactly. The song is just kind of meant to be like, you know, shit can only go so far. And at some point, the quiet majority of people that just go on with their lives and and try not to pay attention to all this, there's more of us that are like that than there are of either party.
00:54:00
Speaker
yeah And if things go far enough, we we're going to speak up. we're gonna We're going to start knocking shit around and fixing it. Just like that's just how things work, man. Absolutely.
00:54:11
Speaker
you know know If it gets bad enough here, everyone will be American, not Republican or Democrat. We'll be Americans if it gets too far. Yeah, and I mean, and and that's essentially what this country was built on.
00:54:24
Speaker
We got tired of putting up with other people's bullshit. absolutely very nice dude Yeah, you find a common, and eventually common ground comes through adversity. me You know, and when when it comes to politics, it's um a lot of people are so divided. It's it's almost like, what's your lesser what's the lesser of two evils? that Both wings belong to the same bird.
00:54:47
Speaker
Yeah, 100%. And i think that's what a lot of people don't understand. They're just so easily manipulated to become divisive.
00:54:57
Speaker
And one of, you know, we've yeah I think there's one thing that this country has tried to do for forever is, you know, bring people together, unify people, but then you got these idiots, you know, that run things that their number one goal is to split us up and divide us.
00:55:12
Speaker
Yeah. Yep. Yep. That's it.
00:55:16
Speaker
I see the bars to the cage. Yeah. and Well, and I feel like, I feel like that's why bringing silent running back,
00:55:27
Speaker
Like it's resonating. Yeah. It's resonating with a lot of people and it's, it's like you, you, at some point you just have to stand up for yourself.

Song Relevance and Staying True to Style

00:55:38
Speaker
And it like we talked a little bit at the beginning of the show and even backstage, it's, it's crazy that a song that's 30 plus years old still stands true today. You, you know, like, Oh yeah.
00:55:52
Speaker
We're really not learning any lesson. No. and dude, you know what's weird is the the song projects into the future in the way that it's written, you know? Like it starts out with, ah he wrote the song in my mom's generation. Yeah.
00:56:10
Speaker
You know? And in the last verse of that song, he says, teach the children quietly because someday sons and daughters are going to rise up and fight while we stood still.
00:56:21
Speaker
And what's weird is is i'm I'm the generation from my mom that was the generation from that song when it was written. Yeah. And I really feel like the message of that song was meant for a future generation and and for us to do it now with what's going on in the world right now.
00:56:39
Speaker
It's like just kind of checks off the boxes, you know? No, it really does. And it's and it it it it it seems like the last... I don't know, maybe 10 years or so, maybe a little more, maybe a little less, give or take.
00:56:52
Speaker
It's a pressure cooker. You know, we we live in a pressure cooker that's going to pop off at any moment. yeah yeah know And, you know, unfortunately, there's not a left side and the right side. And and there's there's three sides. there's the Both sides are here on the on the outer sides that are wrong and don't know what they're doing. And then, like you said, that silent majority right here in the middle just kind of Maybe a little too eagerly waiting for things to pop off.
00:57:23
Speaker
I'm one of those guys. i like you know Maybe another Civil War would do us ah some good. yeah well if
00:57:36
Speaker
Rocky's running the show tonight. Thanks for making my job easy. You're a left-handed guitarist influenced by Stevie Ray and Hendrix, but somehow you ended up in a country rock band. You ever feel like you're trying to sneak a blue style in there? 100%. All the time. All the time. Absolutely. You know, it's funny. We called it country rock for all these years, and ah Spotify finally picked up a few songs for Discovery Mode.
00:58:03
Speaker
And when you look at how they programmed it, they programmed us as blues rock.
00:58:09
Speaker
Didn't see that coming. i I mean, growing up, growing up, I played in bands with my dad um through high school. I was in and out of blues bands.
00:58:21
Speaker
I it's my style. You know, it's it's one of those things to where you um you you develop early on your your core Right.
00:58:38
Speaker
And I mean, I've learned all like tapping, sweet picking, you know, this and that, but there's a core to you to where like your, your internal, um, not instinct. what What am I looking for? But your, your stylistic impression of yourself that you project.
00:58:59
Speaker
And I grew up heavily into the blues, heavily, heavily into the blues. You know, and absolutely 100%. There's, yeah, it's it's country, but i'm I'm sneaking those blues licks in there. But everybody does it.
00:59:14
Speaker
You know, the blues the blues really, I mean, you you look early on, the the early the earliest rock and roll, Chuck Berry, blues. You know, if you think about it, country, there's a lot of blues licks in there.
00:59:30
Speaker
oh yeah you know it Even even you get into you get into metal and hard rock. and so There's there's pantatonic runs pen pentatonic scale runs all throughout there. you know i mean look Look at Zach Wilde.
00:59:48
Speaker
but look za Zach Wilde is bluesier than shit. He is one of the iconic metal guitarists. yeah yeah Exactly.
01:00:01
Speaker
you i I think it's hard to, even if you wanted to, get away from those that those riffs and those and that sound, whether it's country or rock or the combination, yeah like you said, you really you really can't.
01:00:16
Speaker
yeah it's a it's it's It's a foundation. It's the fundamentals to music itself. Yeah, 100%.
01:00:24
Speaker
You know, it's all blue so blue songs. I mean, the guitar was, if not just as important as the as the the I mean, the voice, if not more important.
01:00:35
Speaker
I mean, a lot of those guys really didn't have a great voice, but man, could they play a guitar? Absolutely. Yep, it's true.
01:00:47
Speaker
How about you, Robert, as far as a singer and and guitar player, where are some of your influences? I mean, it's awesome. I, um yeah you know, I grew up really into Metallica, Randy Rhodes, as he was saying. That was, like, my guy, like, classical stuff. But ah i can't I can't say that I'm not major blues. I i geeked out on Stevie Ray Vaughan for years, man. I still do. Like, you know, I might get tired of trying to play some of his stuff, but I'll, you know, throw on a performance of his, and it still just makes my jaw hit the floor, man. Like...
01:01:24
Speaker
He's playing. He just he's taking the simplest licks that every kid learns when they start and he's doing shit with it. People today still don't do. and often and I'd say my influences are strongly blues and then, you know, rock and stuff.
01:01:42
Speaker
But my my favorite was Randy Rhodes. Yeah, i think i think what it was, you know, and even for me, you know, because like we talked earlier, a lot of times I'm um'm i'm doom scrolling.
01:01:55
Speaker
and And I'll hear a musician, and whether it's the voice, the drummer, the guitar, or whatever, something catches my attention. Then I have to play that song. And I think that's what it was for for my girlfriend.
01:02:07
Speaker
She heard your voice. And she was like, whoa, that's different. I like that. That's cool. Yeah, awesome. He's got a killer voice, man. He doesn't like to talk about it, but 2014. Yeah. He did American Idol. Yeah, I did American Idol. He got the golden ticket. Yeah, I got a golden ticket to Hollywood. I sang for J-Lo, Harry Connick Jr., and Keith Urban.
01:02:33
Speaker
I got a yes vote from Keith Urban and Jennifer Lopez. I got a no vote from Harry Connick Jr. He was kind of a dick. Yeah. But, yeah, that was a really interesting experience for sure.
01:02:48
Speaker
Nice. Yeah, no, I mean, that you know that was that I think it was Ray-Bans. Yeah, it was Ray-Bans, and that's what it was at first. I was like, ooh. done it okay, let be let me hear the rest of what's going on here. here here That was the first one where... Yeah, we were kind of collaborative in that, where they had brought in that song, you guys had written that song a while.
01:03:15
Speaker
You shelved You couldn't figure out how to make it a non-acoustic song. Yeah. Pretty much. And that was the first song that I was collaborative in and got to have my say on like how I wanted the drums to sound in it. It was so fun.
01:03:29
Speaker
Yeah, it was that was, Ray-Bans was the first one that we did together, and... come up myarical oh dog We've got, we we're going, we're live on Facebook and Instagram, too, on our end, so we're getting comments all the place.
01:03:52
Speaker
um Yeah, Ray-Bans was cool, man. Robert... had brought that to me when we were just starting out as an acoustic duo. And we actually went um to the Texaco country showdown, but the last in County fair. yeah and we played that and troublesome and we ended up winning that one. And then going off to the regional finals up in Oregon and
01:04:23
Speaker
and you know we're like oh this this song's song could do something and when we started and trying to put it together with the full band the band that we had the the members we had at the time we just couldn't get it to click yeah and then once dylan came along it was like that little change yeah and we're like oh and it was pretty cool when uh we had a fiddle player out of Branson, Missouri record the fiddle for us.
01:04:54
Speaker
And when he matched the guitar solo and it turned into like a duel, like when he harmonized with everything, we're like, oh, and it's one of those songs that like,
01:05:06
Speaker
even though we released it in like 2017 still resonates with people. Yeah. We were, we were in Billings, Montana a couple of years ago and you know, we, we, they take really good care of us while we're there.
01:05:19
Speaker
You know, they, they have somebody that runs us all over town. They, they take really good care of us and our runner, was always asking for that song because he would like, he studied up on us and he was with us all week. and so where the stage was, there was a ah big pond and there was a big grass here behind that.
01:05:40
Speaker
And we hear somebody starts screaming Ray-Bans every, so after every song. And we're like, shut up, Nick. Shut up. Well, turned out to be this dude.
01:05:51
Speaker
And we're in we're in Billings, Montana. We, we are like, we we're completely out of our, like, what we thought was our reach, right? Yeah.
01:06:05
Speaker
And this guy comes up, and finally we gave in, and we played it again. And he comes up with his whole family, and he goes, dude, thank you so much for playing that song. He's like, I've been waiting to hear Ray-Bans live.
01:06:19
Speaker
And we're like, oh okay? goes, yeah, I heard you on... it was a Chris Stapleton radio on on Spotify.
01:06:30
Speaker
And like at once I found out you guys were coming to the billings the fair in Billings, I had to be here. He lived like two hours away. i was That was epic, yeah. And he brought his whole family.
01:06:41
Speaker
And we're like, oh, it's actually reaching people. like This is crazy. Yeah. This is nuts. It's wild what the internet can do. or Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's surprising. And it's it's crazy, too, because that's happened with a couple of our songs. Like, we when we were we had originally written Broken Down, it just something wasn't jiving.
01:07:07
Speaker
You know, was like really four on the floor, really straightforward and we're like, eh. And we shelved for like two years. And then Dylan one day was like hey, what if we swing this into six eight and give it like the waltz feel?
01:07:22
Speaker
And we played and we we're like, ah oh. There it is. Oh, oh yeah okay. You know, it but it's it was the same thing with Ray-Bans. We shelved it for like three years.
01:07:35
Speaker
you know And then once once the timing was right We're like alright let's release it Yeah alright And I've talked to other guests And I see you Rocky and I got you don't worry this Rocky has custody of the brain cell tonight So we're going get to you here in a second Dylan He's got a question for you But um yeah I've talked to other guests on here And it's funny to hear you know Like oh yeah you write this song and you like it But it's something's not quite right And then it goes and sits on the shelf And, you know, a couple years later, you change something up. Maybe like you guys said earlier, you know, you you kind of shifted from that hard, heavy, fast and then started to get into that country rock style as you find your voice and find who you are as an artist and as or as a musician.
01:08:21
Speaker
you try that style with the song that you wrote five, six years ago, and then it's like, there it is. Or you get a new member in the band, and it's like, there it is. That's what we were looking for. This falls into place. Oh, yeah i think I think all of our phones' memories are really suffering because we have so many voice notes from songs that we that we start. We're like, oh, yeah, and then we just hit a wall.
01:08:46
Speaker
yeah And then Robert will be will be at practice, or we'll, you know, will dedicate a night to songwriting and he'll just be going through his voice notes and we'll just pull up a song and be like, what is this?
01:09:01
Speaker
And all three of us are like, and we listen to We're like, oh yeah. Yeah, we should do something with that. Well, Rocky hits you in the chat. He said, Dilly, do you come from metal bands? You're an engineer, run social media, and you're just a practice.
01:09:19
Speaker
fucking give up on words today. Out of all those things, which ones has made you the best drummer? And I was going to ask you about that because from where I'm seeing it, it looks like you got a little cauliflower action or is that just... yeah I've been doing jujitsu for about five years.
01:09:37
Speaker
Yeah, I'm i'm going on going on six. But I would say what's made me the best drummer is being an engineer and recording my own drums and then going, oh, I'm not as on the click as I thought I was. Or, oh this is like, I should do it this way. Or um just having to to listen to your own parts under a microscope, just like these guys were saying with their guitar performances. It's like...
01:10:00
Speaker
you think you're, you've got it on and you play live a thousand times and it feels great, but then you're, you're by yourself with a click track and you're like, oh shit, I really got to dive in here and get this part.
01:10:11
Speaker
So I would say being an engineer has, has increased my, my drumming ability, but I mean, jujitsu helps with everything. I, I'm a, firm believer in that, that that's just something that bleeds into all aspects of life and just helps me kind of just have that white belt mentality about everything.
01:10:28
Speaker
You know, you should kind of go into every situation like you don't know what you're doing and, and you know, you're open to feedback and open to being better. that Sounds like not only is Dylan an awesome-ass drummer, but he's you guys also got security now.
01:10:46
Speaker
Well, this guy's pretty big, too. so he He was a wrestler back in the day, too. so So every now and again, I'll get him drunk when we'll wrestle in the grass.
01:10:57
Speaker
it addict Like a collegiate wrestler or a sportsman? Yeah, Jericho Roman. thats I hate you guys. It also helps that nobody in the band is under 200 pounds. Yeah, we're all pretty big boys. Yeah, I was going to say that.
01:11:14
Speaker
Yeah, none none none of you are ah none of you are small guys by no means. but No, we've rolled up to the fairgrounds before and they're like, are you guys the crew? And we're like, no, we're the band. Yeah, and that's how Mike Bacon was like, oh, shit. Well, Tawad, it sounds like you're in good hands and you you know you're a big guy yourself. and you know you You should be nice and safe and secure.
01:11:42
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Me and Robert wrestled. Me and Robert. We rolled around. and want to go You know, i've i've um I've competed in like two or three Kumites. It's okay. Hey, man. Hey, you know what? Bloodsport's one of my favorite movies. Great movie. I love it.
01:12:01
Speaker
I actually watched that last week. I have a tendency not to watch new movies. I just cycle through the eighty s movies that I like. Yeah. I apologize to my girlfriend last week or so because I've been, for whatever reason, I was a huge Van Damme fan. I've been wanting to watch Hard Target. I couldn't find it anywhere.
01:12:20
Speaker
Come across it on like one of the- I think it's actually on Amazon. Yeah, it was on one of the weird, like Tubi or Pluto or something like that. And I said, I'm sorry, but I don't know why. I've just been really wanting to watch this movie. And she's like, okay.
01:12:34
Speaker
About halfway through, she's like, this is actually a pretty good movie. I was like, I know, right? yeah i was a I was watching Under Siege the other day with Steven Seagal.
01:12:47
Speaker
Yeah. And I was like, forgot how much I love this movie. That's a good one. Tune in in the very near future. Click and the boys will be watching great movies from the 80s and You can't beat them. It's it's one of those things. it's like I feel like, especially nowadays, a lot of movies and TV shows are just recycling the same ideas. Although, I will say I was pretty stoked on the He-Man movie.
01:13:16
Speaker
i was it was it was it was It was good. I liked it. I haven't seen it yet, but come on to. I won't ruin it. I was so scared to watch it. I'm like, is it going to be good? Is it going to ruin it? No, they did a good job. They did a good job.
01:13:32
Speaker
but it's it's It's a lot of um not a lot of like original ideas. and and that could That could go the same with music, too. we I think...
01:13:46
Speaker
Shut up, MoDog. Juan is a wrestling band, too, buddy. Yeah. oh du we'll well We'll get we're good on to that one because i'm after watching Raw last night, and yeah, we'll talk about that later. Oh, man.
01:14:06
Speaker
Cagefighting. Pierce is another guy here on the network that does motorsports show, but he is a former cagefighter. i Yeah, we've been friends since seventh grade. he's He's still a punk.
01:14:22
Speaker
No. um Yeah, but you guys got great taste in music, great taste in movies. You're all badasses. and Thanks, brother. And you make some great-ass music. It's a win-win.
01:14:36
Speaker
um We talked just just a little bit about that. Don't even tease me now. Barbecue guy or... Barbecue guy or country like country homemade... All got all of man. propane barbecue.
01:14:54
Speaker
you know it's our you it's that's my second passion couldn i you know it's it's been it's been so in twenty twenty two we went on a sixweek run wow it we packed a little tiny propane barbecue and we we had stopped our first stop was in forsyth montana okay and this dude that ran the wild game shop like the the processing his brother had just been in a car accident and he was uh paraplegic and he comes up to robert and he goes hey it's my brother's birthday will you sing him happy birthday and robert's like
01:15:40
Speaker
Well, hell yeah, will. he's like Him and his brother came up and he sang him happy birthday. And they were hugging and I mean, tears were falling. It was ah the most special moment.
01:15:51
Speaker
And it was so cool to be a part of it that they invited us, Robert especially, to do this share a special brotherly moment together. yeah And he goes, hey, I want you guys to come by my shop in the morning.
01:16:03
Speaker
I want to set you guys up. And so we usually travel with like the, what is that? 125 quart? Like the big, the pig's a big, the big Yeti, like the big Yeti. We usually travel with that because we like to buy our food on the road and cook and and eat well. And yeah. And we travel with a little barbecue And he filled our whole cooler with bison and elk, venison, beef.
01:16:30
Speaker
He filled the whole thing. it was insane. and we literally ate nothing but game meat for the next six weeks. and That's awesome. i mean brought Robert would be out there cooking a tri-tip in the hotel parking lot. and It was a bison tri-tip though, man. It was like this big. proppa deal It was bigger than the grill. It took four hours to cook a tri-tip. Three or four propane tanks and a 30-pack.
01:16:58
Speaker
yeah i am ah i am ah three or four propane tanks and a thirty pack It was yeah ridiculous. That sounds like a great night right there. who It was, but, you know, it's and it it just depends on it's also cool on the road because sometimes the hotels will have barbecues or fire pits and, you know, especially in like Montana, Wyoming and stuff like that. um Everybody was super cool. They would literally let us take our cooler and fill up their freezer like where they cook breakfast, we would keep our food in there.
01:17:31
Speaker
And yeah depending on whichever one of us was um willing and cook dinner that night, it's like, yeah because you you have to eat well on the road. yeah surviv on You can't survive on chicken sandwiches and jerky and fast food.
01:17:48
Speaker
It gets expensive, and after a while, you just you don't feel good. Yeah, you it starts to hit you with that. but i'm um I mean, I'm i'm a blue-collar guy. I've been working with my hands my whole life.
01:17:58
Speaker
and and And I had to stop. And at some point, I'm just like, ah, you sluggish, you feel like crap? Yeah, man, gotta try. Pack a lunch, take a lunch, something, so you can eat a little bit better. Absolutely. You know it's ah that summer that summer alone, we did 11 weeks that summer, and we in 11 weeks, we did 135 shows. wow that's awesome. And a of yeah, But a lot of it had to do with our diet.
01:18:28
Speaker
and how we ate and how we treated ourselves because it's a long haul. You know? It's 100% a long haul. We had a little cheese curd stint there for a minute. Yeah, we had a lot of cheese in the Poutine. The poutine. Yeah, I mean, it's all right to cheat every once in a while.
01:18:48
Speaker
yeah got to live a little. I like what Wally said. Hell yeah. All-around American badass man. Hell yeah. That's awesome, man. Thank you, brother. Hell yeah. good Appreciate MoDog. Have a great night, brother.
01:19:03
Speaker
he a sergeant? ah What's that? of Someone with a sergeant head tag for saying goodbye. Sergeant MoDog is one of our regulars. he's He shared Purple Crowns with me, so he's ah he's an okay guy on my book. Yeah.

Touring Tales and Unusual Experiences

01:19:22
Speaker
No.
01:19:24
Speaker
now um but being on the road that long you know 11 weeks on the road six weeks on the road all those stops uh i mean you guys gotta to have some some stories and you know maybe the statute of limitations allegedly allegedly for any story that six week run was pretty freaking wild i mean it started with fireball and yeah i remember the next day you're like no more fireball nights with strangers you robert robert Robert had a stalker yeah that there
01:20:04
Speaker
follow us like six hundred miles or something crazy yeah it was ah less's dedication right there we ah it was so we We decided on that run because we were going to be in you know Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, North Dakota. we were Washington. Yeah. and We were in like God's country. You know what I mean? We were in this we were in the Wild West. you know like And we're like, there's some times where we'll do four or five days in a row, eight days in a row, but then we have two or three days off.
01:20:41
Speaker
You know, so we're like, you know what? And, you know, usually our hotels are taken care of when we're playing. Nine times out of 10, they are. But when we're off, we have to take care of ourselves.
01:20:55
Speaker
Yeah. Right. When we have a couple off days. So we took a bunch, we took all our camping gear and we're like, we're just going to find a lake and we're going camp and we're going to have a great time.
01:21:08
Speaker
so what happened was we go to trinton lake in north dakota and we called ahead even we're like hey do we have to do we need permits to camp she goes oh no no no no it's first come first serve it's free they didn't tell us was that they had poisoned the lake because of all the pike and there was no running water it was all stagnant And it was also like 95 degrees. And humid. And the mosquitoes and the horse flies.
01:21:44
Speaker
There was one point where Robert was just, Robert's like, hey, man. I know Dylan and Colin don't want to do this, but you got to stand behind me. We got do this together. We got to do this. I need you behind me. And by about hour 48, Robert was just laying in the grass, just letting the bugs bite him. And he's like, just take me.
01:22:08
Speaker
And Dylan was like, you know, we don't have to do this. A hotel 30 away.
01:22:15
Speaker
but yeah That was a rough run. We showed up we showed up to the hotel in Minot, North Dakota after camping for two days covered in bug spray and bug bites. No shower, no nothing. ah We showed up at the hotel. That last morning, we packed up our camp and like 17 minutes. We couldn't check into the hotel for a while, so we went and played pool. Yeah, we went to the bar, and we were just covered in butt. We looked like... must have looked like the Hills had eyes. She was not happy about us being there, but they were open, and the beer was cold, so that's what we did. That's a hell of a way to figure out if you really like guys in your band. You spend two days or three days
01:23:05
Speaker
No showers, no running water. just sounds like hell on earth. And I'm sure that the the the the the patrons of the bar just love seeing you three walk in. Oh, yeah. Because at the end of the day, who the hell is going to say anything to you guys? Like, who's going to walk up and be like,
01:23:23
Speaker
You guys want to take your party somewhere else? You fucking look like you look ridiculous and you smell terrible. Who's going to walk up to you guys and say that? we We were in Forsyth, Montana. That was our first stop.
01:23:40
Speaker
And they had to put us in a different hotel because the plumbing had blown up in the hotel they were trying to put us in. And i i can't even make this up, dude.
01:23:52
Speaker
The hotel was in between ah funeral home and a tow yard. And like... I've seen the drawer movie before. yeah. And we got there. When we got there, the front desk person wasn't even there. They left our hotel keys in a drawer in the lobby. Oh, shit. We were like, what hell is this? What in the shining is this? Oh, my God.
01:24:19
Speaker
it was wild. Oh, man. We've seen some shit. we I mean, we've hit deer on the way to the show.
01:24:30
Speaker
Just completely destroyed the mirror on the truck. but Yeah, bitch slapped him, and then the deer drooled all over the side of the truck. And just got up and walked off. Just completely destroyed the mirror, and were like, okay. yeah know You just got up, looked at us, and just scampered off. we're like, tight.
01:24:49
Speaker
That's cool. Um, lightning storms. The lightning in North Dakota is no joke either. Yeah, that was wild. And we were, we were, it was our last show in North Dakota and the guy comes up, he goes, he goes, Hey, you're done. And we're like, no man, we got a handful of songs left. He goes, you're done. He showed us the Doppler and the whole screen was red and and at the, at, uh, depending on the state you're in,
01:25:16
Speaker
ah if there's lightning within a certain mile radius, yeah and they they have to shut the whole place down. It's wild. And we were like trying to shovel all of our gear into the trailer.
01:25:29
Speaker
We had like our boots were... like We had mud all the way up to our knees because it was like flash flooding in the fairgrounds. Oh, shit. Yeah, that was wild. It really felt like the universe fucking kicked us in the ass and said, get on out here now.
01:25:44
Speaker
We had enough cheese. Gone. yeah Yeah. You're done. Game over. yeah we do We do have a special thing on the road to where like we're all a big fan of like fried chicken sandwiches.
01:26:00
Speaker
okay and so far oregon has the best ones but from gas stations gas station front okay okay okay okay that's a dangerous world that's a dangerous dance you're doing there my friends oh yeah yeah and uh i think that a crispy crunchy chicken or clamoya oh clamoya in uh in oregon yeah that one's special That place is good.
01:26:25
Speaker
That place is really good. And then we went to this one in Washington. We just stumbled across it. And we're in and out of Washington and Oregon all summer long. Right? and we've driven down the same highway.
01:26:39
Speaker
We had these chicken sandwiches and they were one of the best we'd ever had. We drive up and down that highway. Haven't seen that gas station since. Oh, shit. Was it even... We don't even know if it exists.
01:26:51
Speaker
Yeah. Was it even real? Did it even really happen? Yeah. There was the the murder house in Idaho. Oh, yep yep yeah. Airbnb. There was a witch closet or something. Yeah, this this closet that was under the staircase.
01:27:07
Speaker
I was like, what's in here? and I opened the door, walked in there, and the hair on my arm stood up, and I was like, nope. Nope. they came upstairs, and the guys were like, what's wrong? And I was like, you guys got to come downstairs and see this. and all four of them came downstairs, and when they went into that little closet, the hair on their arms stood up, and I was like, can we just... can we And and that was actually in Dylan's room in the Airbnb.
01:27:32
Speaker
don't know how I got so lucky. yeah All of a sudden, that leg doesn't sound so bad, does it? and Yeah, exactly. And he stuck a chair underneath the doorknob. yeah I was like, you do you think that's really going stop whatever's in that room? And he was like, it'll help me sleep.
01:27:48
Speaker
I'll at least up. I'll hear it. It'll definitely make me feel better. That's all that matters. Exactly. No, that' that's awesome, man.
01:28:01
Speaker
That's one thing that, ah you know, the the road stories are always... you know So much fun to hear from bands, especially guys like you guys who have been up and down the roads a million times and seen all the places and different places. Of course, if my girlfriend's listening, I'm probably going to be going to Idaho to stay at that house. So thanks. We'll show you the later. We who ida we idaho were in Idaho. I didn't see one potato tree the whole time we were there.
01:28:34
Speaker
nice No, that's ah and i her and I do a show on Sundays with paranormal, creepy, true crime and stuff like that. Every time we look at it, she's like, can we go here? Can we go here? I'm like, yeah, we can, but you want to run the numbers real quick? Hey, man, if you ever find yourself out in Nevada, Virginia City has some cool stuff like that. Right up the road from us.
01:29:04
Speaker
Yeah, already a few hours away. Yep. Oh, and then if you ever end up if you do end up in Nevada, in Tonopah, they have the Haunted Clown Motel. Yeah, I've seen that before.
01:29:18
Speaker
Yeah, don't go. to i I won't. We haven't stayed there. We won't. We drive right through Tonopah. We're like, nope. Now we're good. I'd rather go take my chances at Area 51. Yeah, right. she's by My girlfriend, she just logged back in and missed the story. They stayed in a murder house with the witch's closet.
01:29:37
Speaker
Yeah, there it is. And made Dylan sleep in the room with the with the witch and the ghost. I drove there, too. I'm like, how the fuck did I get the last names on the room? Yeah, and I was the armed one.
01:29:56
Speaker
Hard pass on the clown motel but but Yeah we we We have a couple of trips that we're going to try to take this Maybe this summer here in Ohio to some of our famous places That she wants to go check out I'm down for it I love that I'm taking my gun I don't know what's goingnna be one question One question Since you're in Ohio Because I'm a Cleveland fan Yeah let's go I don't know why we're Cleveland browns Browns and Guardians or Cincinnati?
01:30:32
Speaker
I am a Cleveland Browns, Cleveland Cavaliers, and a Reds fan, but I do like the Guardians as or the Indians, as we call them here. They're still there's still they're still the Indians.
01:30:45
Speaker
At least we can talk football and wrestling. yeah you like me I do like the Indians and I know a lot of people like get all out to them like one's American, one's national and my my hopes and I would love for an Ohio World Series one day.
01:30:59
Speaker
You never know. it Reds and some Guardians, they just both got to get on the same page at the same damn time. yeah And it never happens. How do you become a Cleveland fan?
01:31:11
Speaker
My dad's from Cleveland. Ah, makes sense. So he raised me in Guardians and a Browns fan. You had a great dad. yeah he is He is my best friend.
01:31:21
Speaker
And he is the one that got me into music. Nice. Or depending upon how you look at it, like me being a Browns fan, every every football season at the end of the season, I say, fuck this team. And I don't know why I still support them.
01:31:33
Speaker
But come September, guess who's got his Browns gear out going? This is our year. 100%. We'll cry together. It's fine. Yeah, right absolutely. You have to pop up on a Sunday with us if you're available. We do a sports show here, too. And i swear we we talk all the football.
01:31:51
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, no, I love sports here, you know, minus the Buckeyes. I'm a Michigan Wolverines fan, but I love the sports here in Ohio, hockey, football. I even kind of started dabbling a little bit into soccer, and I don't understand the game in any way, shape, or form.
01:32:07
Speaker
The World Cup is going full. Tis the season, yeah. yeah Well, we've got a really good soccer team, professional team here in Columbus, and we've got a really cool stadium. but My son's been following the World Cup, and i have no he's asking me questions. I'm like, dude, I have no idea what's going on.
01:32:23
Speaker
what teams are there, what they're doing, why they're doing it. He's like, du just put it on and watch
01:32:31
Speaker
show prep to do or something. Enjoy the soccer game. Yeah. um And we've been all over the place today. I want to ask you guys real quick, your writing style.
01:32:43
Speaker
I'm always curious about bands. Like you guys um obviously all write together, but I'm sure you all have your own unique style. ah How do you guys come together and write and where do you draw your inspiration from when you write?

Songwriting and Inspirations

01:32:58
Speaker
Well, for me, it's like an idea, like a phrase or something, something that comes up that'll kind of encompass, you know, enough of a concept to to run with it, you know.
01:33:10
Speaker
um The last few we had, we ah we came up with some really cool riffs and we managed to get an idea that that fit into it right away. And And the three of us took off with it.
01:33:22
Speaker
But um yeah, usually, you know, I'll just have like, ah you know, like the leaves on a tree, he'll fly away from me or something, you know, and then I'll write a song about my kid, you know, it just comes like that. Yeah.
01:33:36
Speaker
I mean, there's times where like, I'll come up with a line and I'll text this to Robert and he'll respond with another with another line. Like Robert and I have written a couple songs via text message. think we did Die in Pieces through texts. Yep.
01:33:51
Speaker
Wow. yeah It's a... whenever the the I when the iron's hot you know Robert does was you know 90 of it and then he'll bring it into the room and we'll just rip it apart and try and put it back together but sometimes I'll just you know I'll be sitting on my couch playing my guitar or something I'm like oh and I'll take a video of it and send it to the guys yeah you know or Dylan will come up with the phrase or it's just It just depends.
01:34:21
Speaker
It's been a lot more collaborative over the last you know three or four years, but Robert does a lot of the heavy lifting, I would say, or these these guys both do a lot of the heavy lifting. But I try to throw my two cents in when it makes sense, for sure. these songs All three of us wrote it here in the room together. It just became, you know, it was just the the sparks were flying, things were happening, and it Came out. Something bad I think we had written in 15 or 20 minutes. it's just samely just yeah It just happened. you know the gas Gasoline's an interesting story. That's yeah with your cousin.
01:34:56
Speaker
yeah i well worry Well, do share. Do share the story. That's what we're here for. So it's a pretty crazy story. when i was in the When I was in high school, my cousin Sam, man, he was kind of a just a crazy son of a bitch. But he...
01:35:12
Speaker
He, ah well, he was slinging drugs and um got himself caught up with the Palauans back home in Susanville. And they were coming out of a basketball game and these guys tried to jump my cousin Sam and and my cousin Brian, like nine guys against two.
01:35:31
Speaker
And Sammy and Brian beat the shit out of them. Brian got his nose broke, but they, you know, they whooped the crap out of these dudes. And, uh, Something happened and then there was a drive-by shooting by his house and his roommate actually got got hit in the leg.
01:35:47
Speaker
And so Sam was like, all right, I'm going go find these guys' truck and um we's just we're just going to handle this. We're going to handle it right now. And we're going to put this thing to bed. And Sam couldn't find the guys. He couldn't find them. But he found their truck.
01:36:00
Speaker
So he took his shirt off, poured some gasoline all over his shirt, stuffed it into the gas tank of the car, lit it on fire, and then dumped gas all over the truck. Oh, shit. And walked away from it.
01:36:13
Speaker
they yeah They caught him on camera doing it, but you know his sentence told me that the judge liked him liked what he did a little bit. and dan arson No doubt, which is like five years in prison, and the judge only gave him six months.
01:36:32
Speaker
Somebody was happy with what he did. I think the judge kind of smirked and was like, well, that's kind of badass. I'm just going to send you this for six months, man. like I think you yeah should wrote that about my cousin Sam.
01:36:48
Speaker
Gasoline, that's a good song. Yeah, that's that's awesome. that's That's a cool thing. When you get a little story behind a song, you know you kind of when you listen to it again, you hear it differently.
01:37:00
Speaker
Exactly. That'd be great. Fuck it. I'm just going to take my shirt off. And it's all on camera. Sammy was crazy. In his older years, he's soft a little. He softened up a lot, but I wouldn't wake that. You let sleeping dogs lie. It's funny. He's 6'4", and Sammy dwarfs him.
01:37:25
Speaker
six four and it's just a giant and sammy dwarfs him Oh, But sam Sam's like 300 pounds and can run a 40-yard dash in 4.5 seconds.
01:37:39
Speaker
You know? ah Not quite the NFL, but hella fast. up Somebody that big should not be that quick. He really is. He's faster than anybody. Think Warren Sapp.
01:37:53
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, jeez. You know, it's it's fun. I mean, you guys are all big guys. I'm a big guy myself. I'm six three and I'm right around the 300 mark. And it's fun when people don't, when you're ah deceptively quick. And they don't really they don't think, oh, big bastard ain't going be that quick. And then you can snatch them up real quick.
01:38:14
Speaker
You know what? Like, in a stand-up fight between me and him, it's it's a flip of the coin. Whoever had a worst day, right? yeah In the pool.
01:38:26
Speaker
This guy is a fish. he killed be He killed me and Dylan twice and revived us. so its like And he baits you into it. wellll never We'll be swimming. We'll be hanging out at the hotel and the pool or whatever. and he's like, he'll just kind of come over and just... And he'll bait you into it. And once you start wrestling, he just grabs you and lays on top of you. And holds you at the bottom of the pool.
01:38:55
Speaker
who I've never been the same since. And he did it to both of us. We had to, like, tag team champion his ass. It didn't work. It didn't work. I was like, let's go in the grass, motherfucker. Come on. We got to level this out.
01:39:12
Speaker
<unk>ts are in the grass now I'm not getting out of the pool. Not today. That was awesome. Oh, my God. He just, like, literally just grabbed me by the shoulders and goes like this.
01:39:26
Speaker
And he just, like, slowly dunked me into the pool like was being baptized. And I'm, like, watching the lights fade. And there's nothing I can do about it. I don't understand how he's... And even in the grass, he's so nimble.
01:39:42
Speaker
i don't understand. Yeah, he's very nimble. One time I watched him do the worm and I was like, okay, that's cool. And then he scorpioned himself outside of a bar in Oakdale, California. He's like, i can do the worm.
01:39:57
Speaker
And everybody around was like, let's see it. And he went to go do it, but his hands were like this. And he just, his chin hit the pavement. And I watched both. I don't know, understand how he's so big and so flexible, but his whole back, he like scorpion kicked himself in the back of the head, back into the pavement.
01:40:15
Speaker
Yeah, I had something the size of a tennis ball on my chin, too. It was bad. That was the last time I ever tried to do one. I going say, never seen you do that. No, it only took one.
01:40:26
Speaker
I've never seen someone in the pavement hit me pretty hard. yeah I've never seen somebody eat shit so gracefully. it was it was beautiful. like I mean, he would have gotten a gold medal for that one. Yeah. but thank you Yeah, don't don't don't don't sleep on the big guys. we're We're a little bit quicker and a little bit more nimble than you think. Oh, yeah, that's right.
01:40:51
Speaker
You just don't show it all the time. you it's it's It's cool. It's like you guys you guys really do come across like not even like, not even friends, but like three brothers who just having a great time with life and joining each other's company and and and loving what you're doing.
01:41:09
Speaker
like Like I said earlier, we love like brothers. We fight like brothers. we ah But no matter what, we always have each other's backs. That's awesome. even even when Even when one of us stumbles, the other one's like, hey, come on.
01:41:22
Speaker
Get your shit together. Come on. Let's go. Come on. and we were We were in Galveston, Texas, and we were going through the line at the grocery store. And this lady looks at the three of us. She goes,
01:41:35
Speaker
you all brothers or something? And we're like, yep. She goes, it's the beards. Dylan jilllan used to have a beard like us. Yep, used to have a big one. And she's like, you all brothers or something? We're like, yep.
01:41:49
Speaker
Didn't even question it. Yeah, no question is. It's easier that way at the end of the day. But I mean, spending as much time as you guys do on the road, Or, you know, and with each other, there's got to be you got to have like little things that make you want to strangle each other.
01:42:05
Speaker
Oh, 100%. No one wants to share a room with me ever. Oh, yeah. well He turns it into like ah an aquarium or something or a terrarium rather than that.
01:42:15
Speaker
it's like he pour is For his voice, he just runs the shower constantly. On hot. And he makes it all steamy in there. And it's just like and then he snores. There's just a lot to unpack. We let him have his own room. Oh, yeah. No contest. There was a point where we would get two rooms.
01:42:34
Speaker
And there are times where we gotta we we just share a room and because we're traveling. You know, we've all three slept in the room. We've had to do that. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we make it work. well Yeah, we we always make it work. Dylan and I, we we were roommates for that whole one, that that whole six week run.
01:42:54
Speaker
we were roommates the whole time. And it's but yeah, there are there are certain like after a certain point to where you're like, all right, I'm going to put my headphones in. going to go for a walk. Where are you going? I don't know.
01:43:06
Speaker
I'm going alone. think the last time I shared room with Dylan, he was asleep and I came out and was like, don't look, my dick's out. Yeah, that did happen. I was like, don't look, my dick's out. He was like, was sleeping. was dead ass asleep and he's like,
01:43:21
Speaker
oh my dick's out don't look and i'm like i was asleep it's like he wanted me to see it he woke up and started getting ready to look over at me and then he was like oh wait got that was the last time we roomed together um
01:43:40
Speaker
yeah i mean i can't say i'm not guilty of shenanigans like that myself but yeah but yeah thank you
01:43:53
Speaker
Yeah, it's I mean, the safe that I'm only 5'6", so the safe place for me to sleep is the bathtub. I was going to say, if you guys have to share a room, don't think Robert's going to fit in the bathtub. You just put him in there and let him run the water. We've got to get some rollaways and stuff before we had to do that.
01:44:11
Speaker
You know, a lot of like, especially, like, the ah like the extended stay places, they they'll have, like, the the couch bed or they put a rollaway in there. and You know, we make stuff work on the road.
01:44:23
Speaker
Yeah. You know, it' it's whatever is economical for us. It was, we we've stayed in a covered wagon. Yep. We were in, what was that, Star Valley?
01:44:38
Speaker
Yeah, Buffalo. wyoming Was a Buffalo Six Ranch? Yeah. Heart Six. Heart Six Ranch. Heart Six Ranch. we were traveling from... Montana to Wyoming but we had like three days off that was epic man and we were look we were like well we got to get hotels um and we were looking at Jackson Hole Wyoming and a single bed in Jackson Hole at the time per night was like 500 bucks they had like some events going on else yeah so like you know so we looked at this campground it was like a dude ranch you know and they
01:45:15
Speaker
It was 150 bucks for a covered wagon on the campground that slept six. And we're like, okay. It was heated, ah weatherproof.
01:45:28
Speaker
You know, we're like, whatever. At least you're not sleeping in a tent. We can sleep in beds. yeah and we stayed in a covered wagon for like three days. And that's where we got introduced to cowboy coffee.
01:45:39
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Whoa. Cowboy coffee. That sounds strong. Yeah, where they boil the grounds in the bottom of the the pot. One cup, one cup, you're good. Two cups, you're going to the bathroom to throw up.
01:45:51
Speaker
yeah we all We all got gaggy off that. Yeah. You have to eat with it or you're going to puke. It was pretty cool, though. You know, um like we made friends with everybody in the restaurant. The power went out. the power out flying There was bats. I'll never forget this. these all these Me, Robert, yeah Dylan, and Colin are all sitting at the table. Power goes out.
01:46:14
Speaker
We're sitting there eating our food in the dark. and Because they wouldn't let us because it was on in a state park. yeah So they wouldn't let you let you have open flame. that you We couldn't barbecue. We couldn't have a campfire. Nothing. oh shit and so we're sitting we're sitting there eating our dinner.
01:46:32
Speaker
And luckily everything was like cooked ah on the on the like the the stove. So it was it wasn't electric. So it was we were able to still get food. And so um all these tourists are all freaking out because there's a bat flying around.
01:46:47
Speaker
And I will never forget the chef came out of the kitchen and he took his hat off. He looked around and he just smacked the shit out of his back. with Fell on the ground. He looked up and he goes, you're welcome.
01:46:59
Speaker
And walked back into the kitchen. That was it. That was good. No hesitation. just Oh, no. people are People are built different in Wyoming and Montana. yeah They are 100% built different.
01:47:12
Speaker
yeah what was ah What was that guy's name in oh douglas in Douglas, Wyoming? He was like, I get drunk and wrestle my brother. And then he was like, at one time, I moved all the trash cans into the middle of the alley. Yeah. And then the cops went and picked him up in the morning and made him go put them all back.
01:47:29
Speaker
And I'm talking, these are some big corn fed boys. Yeah. Like Douglas is like, like an hour and a half from Sturgis. So it's all the, the Northeast corner of Wyoming. And his brother walked in and his, his brother's hand was all swollen.
01:47:46
Speaker
was like, what happened to your hand? He was like, well, punched my brother out last night. was like, but but you guys just come to the bar, get drunk, fight, and then go home. And he goes, yep.
01:47:57
Speaker
Yep. but it Normal Friday night. It was great. We've had some wild shit happen to us. Yeah.
01:48:09
Speaker
Yeah. exactly I mean, you just you guys have been on the road for, you know, you guys been doing this for a long time, been all over the place. I'm sure that you've had ah experiences. for you You could probably damn near write a book about it.
01:48:21
Speaker
Yeah. Well, yeah, absolutely. 100%, man. right good It's crazy. Got most of it on on film, too, just through our iPhones, mainly. but you know and it's it' it on record and And then there's like the the wholesome stuff, too. It's like we were driving from the Dalles, Oregon, up to Ellensburg, Washington.
01:48:39
Speaker
And Robert goes, pull over. Pull over right now. There's a fruit stand. And we're like, okay. Oh, that was great. And then he walks over and buys a big old bag of these fresh peaches. And they were the greatest peaches on the face of the planet. And he was like, I'm so glad we did this. Yeah. We filmed a video of us just like eating peaches on the side of the road. We were like, oh my God, want peaches. Oh, yeah. Those are the juiciest peaches.
01:49:04
Speaker
You just take a bite and juice is just falling everywhere, man. So good. Couldn't stop it. Yeah, it's and it's wild. It's um the... the degree of memories and stories like there's, there's some bad ones, but they are completely outnumbered by the good ones.
01:49:22
Speaker
and Yeah. You know, and there are lessons to be learned on the road on how to do things and how not to do things. And then there are things on the road that make you appreciate being able to do what we get to do.
01:49:35
Speaker
Absolutely. You know what I mean? and I tell you what, one of my favorite things on the face of the planet is to get home after a long run on the road and just be in my own shower, my own house, and just sit there and reflect on the experiences that we just got to make together. Yeah. Yeah.
01:49:53
Speaker
You know just got to have that unwind, unplug. Yeah. and And then let all that, you know, because when you're on the road and you're running and you're going, you can't really take those times to really appreciate what you're doing. but Right. yeah You know, and it's, it's, we tried, when we like when we get, when we get back, we're always like, all right, 48 hours.
01:50:15
Speaker
We're not going to... No contact. 48 hours. It's like three hours later. hey I miss you guys. I miss you. That awesome.
01:50:26
Speaker
That was so much fun. I said 48 hours. I don't care. I love you. It's so true. well and It's one of thoses one of those things where we're also constantly working.
01:50:38
Speaker
yeah you know if we're Right when we get home, it's like, okay, let's say we get home on a Sunday. Or we get, you know, we're we're back in the studio on Tuesday. Or Thursday. It's like, sometimes we'll take like three or four days off, but we're we're back in working on something. Whether we're recording, whether, you know, um we're constantly moving.
01:51:01
Speaker
Yeah. yeah You know, because we built in 2020 twenty when um

Adapting to Change: Building a Studio

01:51:09
Speaker
everybody just started to roll over because everything shut down.
01:51:12
Speaker
Yeah. like i we know We know of dozens of bands that were like, all right, we're done. you know In 2020, we played two shows. That i was it.
01:51:24
Speaker
We had a whole tour lined up for the whole summer and we got two shows because Douglas Wyoming refused to shut down. And they were like, hey, you guys want to go to Douglas and play a show? It was 18-hour deadhead. drove 18 hours you drove eighteen hours out Played two days, 18 hours home.
01:51:44
Speaker
But we just, we were like, we were hungry. yeah We're like, no, we gotta to do this. We gotta keep going. Well, when everything shut down and everything got taken away, we built our own studio.
01:51:58
Speaker
And we just started learning how to record and Dylan like completely switched his, ah just keep it he switched he switched gears and was like, we can do this.
01:52:12
Speaker
You know, and we figured it out. And I mean, he he put his head down and really it was a game changer for us. Yeah. it It's one of those things you adapt or die.
01:52:22
Speaker
And like you said, a lot of guys rolled Herbert and died. Yeah. And it it was it gave us the outlet. Until we were able to go on the road again. We needed it. it got It was a dark time, yeah.
01:52:35
Speaker
We needed to to still be able to creatively come together and work on stuff and, you know, couldn't play any live shows. But, I mean, you guys did the live streams. Yeah, we did a bunch of live streams and stuff like that. We kept after it.
01:52:47
Speaker
But it's... Well, and it developed the Huckleberry Road Studios, you know? Yeah, which is... We're self-sufficient there. and we have people we work with. But we do most of it right here. like we we record everything we record everything here at home and then we send it off to nashville to be mixed and mastered and produced and it's it's great you know and we've even done demos for a handful of our friends here in town like rihanna carter carson chandler um buckshot they've all come into the studio and yeah worked with us so we can get we can get a single out for them it's like
01:53:27
Speaker
it's it's We've definitely developed um with everybody, ah not and it's not just us, it's everybody together. There's like a core group of artists in the same vein that it's like it's definitely nice to wear, because a lot of the music industry is cutthroat.
01:53:44
Speaker
you know It's like, how can I step on you to get to this spot? Yeah. And we were definitely more of the, hey, let's do shit together. Everybody's got a seat at the table. you know not Yeah. but get and talent Yeah. I think that's the really cool thing about, you know the independent artists and the local artists and stuff like that that I've noticed doing this show is that it's more community based than, you know, you have you build your community, you guys help each other out, you're looking out for each other, ah you know, doing this show.
01:54:15
Speaker
I haven't heard too many horror stories of the, you know, um I'll throw my granny in front of a bus just to, just to get ahead of you, which is, which is crazy. Um, because you hear all the horror stories, you know, especially for guys, you that have been in, been in the industry for so long and you guys been doing it for so long. Um, and not only stay together, but you know, uh, Tuan and Robert, you guys kind of changed your style and found your, your, found your niche. And then the addition with, with Dylan,
01:54:44
Speaker
um i think that's the really one thing that i've learned doing this with with the independent scene and you guys for the most part seem like ah it's a really good community especially and if if you've got a music community in your area where you're at yeah 100 dude and it's uh it's crazy because a lot of people a lot of artists will actually skip over reno o But Reno is such a hub because you got to think that it's you got to pass through Reno to get to California. You got to pass through Reno to get to Idaho, Washington. Like, it's it's ah it's a I-80 and 395 is such a travel hub that it's it's crazy that ah the amount of artists that will straight skip it over.
01:55:31
Speaker
yeah But there's some there's some badass clubs here. Yeah. You know, and it's
01:55:40
Speaker
it's definitely, it's definitely underlooked and underrated, especially for um like independent artists coming to town.

Future Plans: New Music and Tours

01:55:51
Speaker
Yeah. You know, I'm i'm a firm i'm a fun believer in, you know, you never know who might be in an audience. You never know whose eyes or ears are going to be on you guys or any musician for that matter. Like you shouldn't pass up an opportunity just cause it's like, yeah, you know, it's,
01:56:09
Speaker
too small or whatever. You never know who could be there. yeah you know oh You know, it's, ah yeah, it's crazy. It's, it's like, so when, when we see five or 5,000, we were playing and that came from, we played with Josh Ward up in Yakima, Washington.
01:56:25
Speaker
And the promoter dropped the ball, like completely dropped the ball. for us. And we drove from Klamath Falls, Oregon up to Yakima, Washington. It was like a seven or eight hour drive to go meet up with Josh.
01:56:41
Speaker
And, um, he was like, he's like, Hey man I totally understand if you guys don't want to play the show, you know, promoter dropped the ball.
01:56:53
Speaker
I'm really sorry. you guys are still going to get paid. Yeah. But, um I could understand if you just want to go to the hook, like just, he goes, I'm still going to play because it doesn't matter if there's five or 5,000 people here. He's like, I'm going to give those people a show. Yeah. And we, all three of us got so pumped. We're like,
01:57:15
Speaker
Well, we're not going anywhere. not going home. yeah We're not going home. We are here to do this with you. I mean, there wasn't even a sound guy there. Yeah. They had to bring in the sound guy. He was all pissed at our setup. It was just a whole thing. but And we still did it.
01:57:29
Speaker
going get and he And you're absolutely right. you know there's ah You never know who's going to be listening. You never know who's going to pick up on your Facebook Live. You never know who's going to pick up on...
01:57:41
Speaker
you know you're if you're doing a live stream or you know it doesn't matter, it's you never know who's listening. Yeah. it is either You never know. you know ah Chris Stapleton can just be passing through and like, oh, I'm going go grab a drink.
01:57:55
Speaker
And you're up on stage and he's like, who the hell are these guys? in ah Can we get them on tour? You never know, man. You got to be on your game. Yeah, that happened in Klamath Falls.
01:58:06
Speaker
We were in Klamath Falls, Oregon, and we were playing this beer garden show and all these dudes in like sleeveless like metal shirts yeah walk up And they're they're over there smoking and drinking and having a good time. And had no idea who they were, but it we're like, these guys look like.
01:58:26
Speaker
The crew members of their band. something. And it was Pecos in the rooftops. They just got done playing in the in the arena. And they were coming through. they heard They heard loud-ass guitars. They're like, oh, we got to come check this out.
01:58:39
Speaker
Nice. And we ended up hanging out with those guys for the whole rest of the night. That was cool. it's you You never know. You never know. it's wild. Yeah, no, exactly. um You guys, i don't want to keep you guys too much longer.
01:58:55
Speaker
We're kind of coming up against it, but I do want to ask you guys, you got anything coming up this summer? you guys going to be on the road? You got any more new music coming out? They're out there and Let people know about a single coming out probably in another eight weeks or so, depending on the timeline of when we get it back mixed and all that.
01:59:12
Speaker
And then we're playing a Night in the Country, which is a big festival here in in Nevada. It's out in Earrington. Really big names are always on that. This is our third year in a row doing that. We've played it for you. All of our so we are constantly updating our socials and our website.
01:59:29
Speaker
All of our tour dates are on our website. uh where i think we're all the way into october right now and then we're even like we're we're already booking into 2027. we've got some requests for uh florida for the first time so we're gonna be uh we got a lot next year we got a lot of people trying to get us into the midwest and the east coast i would love for you guys to get out to the ohio area we would love that too brother we yeah absolutely you know right Right now, I have a four-hour window. if if If any former guest is in that four-hour window, we're going to do our damnedest to be at that show. Hell yeah. it's it's you know It's not just a show that I want to support you guys. I want to be able to come out and support you at gigs, buy the merch, you know all that stuff. you know There's so much more that goes into supporting you guys than just this show.
02:00:20
Speaker
That means a lot, brother. Thank you. Thank you, man. Yeah, so if you guys if you guys are listening or you guys are watching, please stay in touch with us on our socials. We're constantly updating shows and where we're going to be, what we're releasing.
02:00:35
Speaker
um We run it all ourselves, so if you comment on something, you will get a response. you got You got two votes. my My girlfriend been threw in the chat, Ohio. Yep.
02:00:48
Speaker
We'd love to. Get the phone Let's go. We'll make it happen.
02:00:54
Speaker
Uh, okay. Here we go. And there it is. Huckleberry road, music.com. yeah Yeah. Make sure you guys are liking and following the guys.
02:01:04
Speaker
Um, I want to have you guys back again down the road. You guys are awesome. We didn't even get to talk wrestling yet. I'm going to hit you up on Instagram, and we're going to talk about this. We've got a lot to talk about. I've got a lot to say about this last PLE and Raw last night, and I have a feeling SmackDown is going to bring up a lot of conversation, too. Oh, 100%. 100%.
02:01:30
Speaker
one hundred percent So definitely guys, it was an absolute pleasure. Would definitely, like I said, love to have you guys up back on down the road here in a few months, catch up with you guys, especially since you got the new music coming out and you guys are going to be on the road.
02:01:45
Speaker
that's one of the cool things too is I love having guests back to catch up and and then it's just kind of a freestyle show and then we can talk about you know whatever, you know what's going on. and yeah we'd love Absolutely. thanks for having Thank you.
02:01:58
Speaker
Absolutely. um and I'm going to ask you guys, I know already asked you backstage, but i I'm going to ask you again, we're going to continue to play the music across the network. We do shows seven days a week here and we try to integrate music wherever we can. So as long as you guys are cool with it, we're going to keep playing Huckleberry Road. Spin it, baby. 100%. Keep it loud. Green light.
02:02:17
Speaker
Keep it loud. Suck it, YouTube and Facebook. That's right. Guys, make sure you follow Huckleberry Road on all the social medias. Check them out. The guys you've seen here tonight, they're awesome.
02:02:30
Speaker
Had a lot of fun conversation. Make sure you guys are following us as well. The Nonsensical Network. Check out all the shows. Tune in tomorrow night. I'll be back for Glick's Comedy Lounge. Hanging out with ah very funny comedian ms kim's Kim Wadsworth.
02:02:45
Speaker
So check that out. And we'll see you guys next week. I got something going on next week. i don't know what it is yet. this up Guys, again, thank you so much. Best of luck to you. yeah know So glad my girlfriend stumbled across you guys, and going to continue being a fan and listening to all the music and and sharing you guys out like crazy.
02:03:07
Speaker
We appreciate it, man. Thank you. Grateful for you, man. Thank you. Rock and roll. We're actually going to end the show tonight with Ray Bans. You guys were talking about it earlier. Had a great story behind it. So we're going to end this hidden the show. I'm going to hit some buttons, and we're going get the flock out of here.
02:03:21
Speaker
Cool, man. Appreciate it, you guys. Have a great night. Thank you, too man. Bye-bye.
02:04:21
Speaker
Walking down the highway Flying thumbs Looking to get to anywhere Anywhere fast
02:04:50
Speaker
Inner space has me.
02:05:05
Speaker
Everything I need's on my back. With every step I take, stepping further from the past. Gonna life, wanna take a try. She's my saddest son.
02:05:17
Speaker
The only thing that I fail to keep. It's my face you'll never see when the sun comes up.
02:05:40
Speaker
Beat up, pick up the truck, getting back where you headed to, headed to. You
02:05:52
Speaker
know I gotta get there, this ride's plenty fast to get anywhere.
02:06:13
Speaker
Every step I take, I'm stepping further from the past. Don't a lot want to take drag. She's my setting.
02:07:01
Speaker
I need some that with every step I take I'm stepping further from the past gonna lie wanna take a drag she's my saddest son the only thing that fail to keep it's my face never see when the sun comes