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Season 2- Episode 8- World Cup QF & Premiership Round 1
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Finally it's up! The latest episode with those American rugby hammerheads is here. It is the return of James this episode. We talk about his adventures in the land of the rising sun, French rugby's inner feud and of course the action. We recap the quarterfinal matches, salute to some legends & amazing teams and let's not forget the Premiership opening weekend. We make the rounds on all of it and give you our best start sit for both competitions in your fantasy lineups.
Ask us questions or reach via Twitter: Jarrod- jdyke8man & Ben- admrablsnackbar or e-mail fantasyrugbypodcast@gmail.com. Of course we welcome feedback via those methods or rating/reviewing the pod on iTunes.
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Transcript
Introduction of Hosts and Guest
00:00:08
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome back. Here's a fancy wordy answer. My name's Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Gohashi. And he's here, the man, the myth, the legend, James Herrick. Welcome back, buddy. Yay! The Japanese I learned while I was in Japan. Yeah, about all of it.
00:00:25
Speaker
And I got those of us and beer is beer. Ooh, really? Yes interesting That's funny. Well, that's that we'll have to hear about your exploits in a minute here Let's get the let's get these beers open and My fault that we don't have enough It's you know, they got these are tall boys at least and sharing is caring sharing
Japanese Convenience Stores vs. Boston's Alcohol Laws
00:00:50
Speaker
is caring. It's unfortunate that
00:00:52
Speaker
Like in Japan, and this is, you know, I'll probably go into a few of these stories, but on every other block there is a convenience store where you can buy beer and lots of it. And it really would make sense if they had that in Boston.
00:01:07
Speaker
Those Puritan laws really got us. Damn. Everybody make sure you check us out on Apple Podcast. I got the right name this time. Spotify and Google Play. So Ben, how handy was it to have our upgrades for the prem this weekend?
00:01:24
Speaker
Uh, it was extremely handy for setting the lineup. Yeah, exactly. Not extremely handy based on who was playing, but nothing we can do about that. Everyone, everyone is good as is in Japan. So it's kind of catch as catch can, but yeah, but having, oh, going, being able to go through and see who, uh, who's starting. Oh no, I made a terrible choice in this person because they are not even on the bench. Right. Yeah. It was extremely helpful to avoid that.
00:01:48
Speaker
Yeah, no kidding.
Rugby Mag Upgrades and Lineup Strategy
00:01:50
Speaker
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Thomas Ramos Injury Controversy
00:02:05
Speaker
Alright, we got a lot to get through, but before we do, curious case of Thomas Ramos. I don't know if anybody got wind of this, but he got sent home because he was too injured to finish the World Cup. I've heard about this. But then he played for his club not once, but twice.
00:02:20
Speaker
Well, there's a lot of turmoil, or there was, I should say, in the French camp. Supposedly. You know, the issue between the head coach and the assistant coach. I forget their names. Yeah, well, Brunel was one of them. Yeah, Jacques Brunel is one. And the assistant guy who's supposed to be taking over after him. Oh, yeah. And then, of course, the Toulon owner.
00:02:38
Speaker
But yeah came out and said that the players should revolt so I think Thomas Ramos was a result of like He was the scapegoat there you know, but You know listening to a lot of those guys before this French rugby match before before they went off and you know went to play whales French is the French are always at their scariest is when they're backed into a corner like a wounded animal and
French Rugby Team Under Pressure
00:03:03
Speaker
I believe that. And I don't know if we're going to want to go into this quite yet, but they certainly showed it this weekend. Yeah, we'll get there in just a second. Let's try to be orderly here. I'm going to take your lead, Shrek. So just, you know, I get excited. I'm sorry. It's easy to get out ahead of him.
00:03:20
Speaker
Yeah, I am slow after I start talking about stuff. Sometimes he's like, wait, wait, wait. It's not we're not there yet. Oh, fuck you. I'm doing it. That's fine. I'm just good. We're going to double back to it. So you're going to say the same thing twice, essentially. So, yeah, that was just one note that I that I had seen. But other than that, yeah, let's get to the games. First up, England and
England vs. Australia Match Analysis
00:03:41
Speaker
Australia. Thoughts, boys?
00:03:42
Speaker
It was as expected, the result definitely. Eddie Jones is now 7-0 lifetime against Michael Cheka's men. Unfortunate to see some true legends of the game go out like that.
00:03:59
Speaker
There's a lot of controversy going on, but I think I'll just start with just England played. You know incredibly well Johnny May can always find the line and that try that Kyle Sinclair had was just incredible Him picking that line was just it was it was well. This is a guy that came from part of London called tuting But it's also a bit of a dangerous part of London and
00:04:25
Speaker
And he rolled up to his first ever rugby practice for the Battersea Ironsides, which is just over the river, south of the river from Chelsea, in a full-man United kit. Because he really had no idea what he was doing. And look at the guy now. So, yeah, England were... Long way away from that. England were dominant.
George Ford's Tactical Role
00:04:43
Speaker
I knew that Eddie Jones was going to drop forward. I knew... It just, you know... You had to have a feeling.
00:04:49
Speaker
It it wasn't because he played he played great, but he was playing against these sort of second tier teams Yeah, it's not he's not the way if you want to put out england's best lineup Um farrell's at 10 and and ford's the reserve and I like the way he did that That was something that that jared and I had been talking about as far as what's he what's the decision there? Which way is he gonna go? Um, I think he made the right call there because farrell's just a better distributor
00:05:15
Speaker
And I like the thought behind Ford at 10. It's like having your inside center at 10 and your distributor, your 10 at 12 when you have FAS there. But kind of to play, especially, you know, these higher level teams, you kind of need a more traditional distribution system. So it made more sense for Farrell to start at 10.
00:05:38
Speaker
And then when they did end up bringing Ford on, he had some runs. He had some good – game management. I think he's a ball from hand kicking. He can put them in great places.
Australia's World Cup Strategy Adjustments
00:05:53
Speaker
On the reverse side with the Australians, there was a lot of controversy going into it because you started the 19-year-old Jordan Pattaya, who played okay. They've been chopping and changing all World Cup, especially at 10, so they went back to Loyola Fano, who I think was the number one choice 10 at the beginning of the World Cup.
00:06:18
Speaker
And then you guys have an issue with curtly bill because why he was injured Beforehand because that had knock or he just no. I just don't think he's an international level 15. He's done I think I don't think he's fast enough and Like I'm surprised actually I thought Farrell was gonna move him all over the field not quite to that and he really didn't I thought he was gonna just just boot the ball make make bill run back and forth He didn't quite
Kurtley Beale's Performance Concerns
00:06:42
Speaker
do that. Well, they made currently be able through that awful pass. Yeah
00:06:46
Speaker
Yeah, I think that you they would have been better served with with bill at 12 Into the Caribbean and or bump curvy out or that but I thought the tie had played really well So it's hard to it's hard to to knock the kid I thought he was that thought that you know as kind of controversial choice as it was I thought it worked out pretty well. I couldn't have At least it could have worked out a lot worse
00:07:15
Speaker
It definitely mattered too long. He could have had himself a hell of a day. He was pretty bottled up by the two of them. That was impressive. I thought he was going to have a day.
Michael Cheka's Coaching Future
00:07:25
Speaker
I woke up for the second half and watched it on my phone through an illegal Reddit stream, which was great.
00:07:32
Speaker
With my hair pods in But you know at the end of that you knew Michael checker was gonna step down. There's been a lot of you know Controversy around him ice I generally hearing from you know seeing a lot of the tweets from former players like Matt ghetto drew Mitchell They support the guy
00:07:49
Speaker
I mean, it got him to a World Cup final, you know? And not a lot of coaches can do that. So he's, you know, I think it was unfair for someone like Ugo Manja came out and was saying that Cheka made it all about himself this game by the selections he made.
00:08:06
Speaker
I don't know. I have my issues with Ugo here. Ugo thinks a lot of things about Ugo, so he just wanted to talk. He hasn't got anything else to do except media these days. But I think Michael Trackett, he's a former player, you know, so he's going to come out and he's going to be, he's going to be fiery and he's going to say what he wants to say, you know, so it'll be interesting to see where he ends up going if he continues to coach professionally or if he takes a break. I think he's done with the international level.
00:08:32
Speaker
And and just rugby Australia. Yeah, or you know, whatever. I can't. I can't say I'm looking for that. Yeah, he's had enough. I could see him coming to to Europe or something. And coaching at that level, just to kind of get it. And he has before. Yeah, Coach Lancer, Dad, Francais. Right. And so and he's done well at both clubs, so he's he's got the pedigree in terms of that for sure. So I'm sure if he decides to make himself available, he'll be a very sought after, sought after person.
00:09:00
Speaker
Let's talk a little bit about the points there, Ben. Your boy Sinclair, obviously, leading some high-end scores there with 42. So you were on his try.
00:09:16
Speaker
Ben and I texted each other, and we knew exactly who we were talking about, and I bet you James can guess the same exact person.
Defensive Issues in Australia vs. England
00:09:22
Speaker
So when Laelia Final missed that assignment on Sinclair, there's one person that you, myself, and Ben know that would absolutely be ripped shit if that happened on our team. Who is it?
00:09:34
Speaker
Uh, does it, you can't really rhyme his name with anything. Probably a Craig Mackenzie. It rhymes very much with that. And it's, and it's not a knock on the guy. We just know how he is. He's intense and I love him for being as intense as he is, but it was just hilarious that Ben and I were on the same exact wavelength. Like.
00:09:54
Speaker
There's one person I can think of that would absolutely destroy Lillie a final for that defense It's more the lack of effort and then I'm just getting the fuck out of the way I think Be a speed bump at least come on man Because once once he made it through that hole there wasn't like he knew the big smile on his face when he was in open field I mean, that's not just cuz you know props normally get that look on their face when they break the line But this was uh, no, I'm scoring. This is like it was way too close to get stopped. I
00:10:19
Speaker
No, I don't know if that I think I'm guessing it was Beal back there, but I didn't catch the number of the trailer back there. But there's no there's no stopping him at that point. Yeah, you were. That's why Laelio Fano had just, like you said, been a speed bump. Perhaps that could have been a little better. But but the fact that that it was just.
00:10:39
Speaker
Full pace as as full of pace as you're gonna get to yeah, I agree Yeah, there's no stopping you there. No, so that that was good. Um, you know, it's a it's funny I kept putting them on my sit list and he kept Shutting me up. Michael Hooper scored well in every game you played in just about 30 points this one Yeah, he makes so many damn tackles and that's the thing that gets it
00:11:02
Speaker
Always He's like Yeah Corbetti obviously he had a nice match Broke the line he gave them a shot when he got that one over the line And then they had the one that was a forward pass that they called back. Yeah Ben Skein. Oh that pass is fine Jerome Garces
00:11:27
Speaker
People says is telling you that there's a problem here, dude. Come on. No, I could not believe he said that he is just was I want to know if there was some sort of like prop bet where where scheme would get involved in a play as a TMO and and and still Garces would overrule him and be right. That would be like that'd be like a thousand to one. Right? You could like that's you know, that's a year mortgage. Yeah, right. That's a house right there. Right. Holy shit.
00:11:57
Speaker
I mean, but, you know, just to look ahead, that's not the only ref controversy that's
New Zealand's Dominance over Ireland
00:12:02
Speaker
been swirling around. Nope. We got a couple more. We got a couple more. We'll get to that one. Oh my goodness. So yeah, England take care of Australia. They move on to the semifinal and they await the winner of New Zealand Ireland, who, man, this match deserved to be a little bit better than it was.
00:12:20
Speaker
And I feel like it was just percentage, just little tiny percentages that Ireland were off and that's all it takes for the All Blacks because they're so ruthless. It was really who scored the first try that was going to control the match because when Ireland score and they can just go into their shell and just choke the life out of you.
00:12:41
Speaker
that's an entirely different game than when New Zealand put up 10 points in the first 10 minutes or so, whatever it was. And then they're just, now Ireland's gotta somehow get on the front foot and play some a wide open game and that's just not their game. And that was, it was won and lost in the first however many minutes. I don't know when the first try was scored, let me see.
00:13:09
Speaker
Thirteen th minute. Okay when Aaron Smith scored, you know They're
Did Ireland Peak Too Early in the World Cup?
00:13:14
Speaker
going in without their token Islander Bundy Aki was I think a huge loss because that red card that he got but I think you know
00:13:23
Speaker
The signs were there in the warm-ups to the World Cup when they lost to England by that much. Something was off. And a lot of people think that they maybe peaked a year too early. Seems to be a habit of theirs. And it's unfortunate because you had Chicago, you had winning the Grand Slam, and you had Dublin, and then they went down to Australia for a tour and won there as well, beat South Africa as well. There are all these positives to take away from,
00:13:50
Speaker
You know, the question remains like, you know, did they peek too early? Is Johnny Sexton, is he done? I don't know. I mean, he still played all right. But, you know, there's definitely not a better replacement for him.
00:14:05
Speaker
you know, in that situation, I don't think Carberry or the other guy could have, you know, Cardi. Yeah, Cardi could have done it. But it was just, you know, typical New Zealand. And I think going into that, especially after Ireland, Japan, you knew that New Zealand was going to take over.
00:14:21
Speaker
Yeah. Carberry took, he looked really rusty after because he just played so little and it was just so tough for him to get going, you know, get that speed back. And it's just, it's just something you can't really learn until you've been in the trenches again. So he definitely looked like he was having a tough go. I mean, just look back at the one play that he made against Japan where he kicked the ball dead, where he probably, he said he meant to. And I'm just like, did you really mean to? Because your decision making must have been a little bit off.
00:14:51
Speaker
So yeah, there's that for him But you know what there was some What's his face? Stockdale at one point? I think he was trying to go for an intercept at the beginning Of the game and that could have definitely changed the tides, but I still think this was all for New Zealand to have You know, it was it was in the stars more longer played pretty well You know the Barrett's played well and
00:15:18
Speaker
Aaron Smith, what's fucking amazing? Yep, as he always is yeah, that's nice on the universe. Yeah, right He's yeah, and two dries Incredible and then to have someone like TJ. Parinara who is your backup who isn't a backup at all No, no, he could start on 99% of yeah out there So these guys are stacked which makes it one hell of a you know, it's gonna be one hell of a game No, yes on Saturday agreed, which I'm very scared about but somewhat
00:15:49
Speaker
Cautiously optimistic right from an England perspective So that was good stuff my I Said a lock. I just didn't say the right. I pronounced it wrong I said I said metallic but what I really meant was Sam Whitelock
00:16:10
Speaker
Sam Whitelock, The Lock. Yeah. Yeah, Retallica. He was there, but Whitelock had himself a fantasy day. Again, Retallica's still trying. I think I blindly just picked this thinking, Lock, Brody Retallica, why not? He's also still trying to get himself back into shape. So that was a poor decision on my part. Well, hell, I was the one at the beginning of the tournament that was saying kind of
00:16:34
Speaker
You know sit on reed for a little bit now i'm kind of all in on him. Yeah, he's he's played. He's played his balls off Well, this is his last go around so you know, yeah exactly when you when you're on the world stage like this You know, you're gonna you're gonna see it. It was great to see after at the end of the game You know rory best got an incredible ovation from the crowd there as he should have the one thing i'll say, you know my first night 12 second night in tokyo
00:16:57
Speaker
was the night before Ireland, Scotland. So the Irish were out in full force. So I found myself in this part of Tokyo called Golden Guy, which is a tiny little small three block radius, maybe, of these six-seater bars. Some of them, they like Westerners. Others, not so much. No gaijin.
00:17:18
Speaker
And I ended up in this bar with my brother and my dad and my friend, and then it was just all these Irish fans who were just singing just incredibly loud and just incredibly drunk, but they travel in packs. I know, they travel in packs. And it was pretty awesome to see.
00:17:39
Speaker
But anyway, you know cool to see the Irish and the New Zealand fans Applauding Rory Best as well as Kieran Reed. I think in his post-match interview right on the pitch He said, you know, he gave a shout out to to best that's what's rugby is all about, right? You know, these guys have been playing each other for years and they recognize Legends and clearly Rory Best is absolute legend. Yeah, I was a poopy pants about one thing in this game Yeah, and that was that they pulled off Rory Best and Johnny Sexton at the same time
Rory Best's Retirement Farewell
00:18:08
Speaker
I thought that that they kind of deserve their own individual goodbyes Especially you don't want to over shadow either one like I didn't even like they pulled bestie off and there was a huge to-do about it And then it's like right after it's like oh, yeah and sexton came off too And that's not fair to sexton because this is I'm guessing this is his last world cup
00:18:28
Speaker
Definitely, his last World Cup, but not his last game in an Ireland jersey. No, so it's a different goodbye. But at the same time, I thought Sexton deserved a farewell on World Cup. Farewell. Raise your hand if you didn't shed a tear when Rory Best was doing his interview.
00:18:44
Speaker
Oh, I definitely did. Yeah, I couldn't help it. Couldn't help it. I mean, he's got that face, even though he kind of looks like a potato. He's got that sweet, sweet face. That lovable face. A face only a mother could love, but still lovable. Yeah, I read like, or I think I saw something, because James Haskell and Mike Tyndall and the English contingent have headed over there, Mr. Bantosaurus Rex himself.
00:19:07
Speaker
And he said, you know, there's a funny quote that he was saying that, you know, on the Lions tour, he's playing a drinking game with Rory Best and it just ended up turning into neck a pint. That was about right. Yeah, that's good.
00:19:24
Speaker
Yeah, so hats off to Rory Best. Obviously, it's an incredible career for any player and he's done the game in Ireland, obviously a lot of good Ulster fans should be very proud about what they have there and I definitely tip my cap to the men that has led Ireland to such good success. 37 years old.
00:19:44
Speaker
He is a warrior to be still playing at that level at that age. So tip of the cap to him All Blacks move on from this match 46 to 14 and they will face England next weekend It's gonna be a freaking goddamn good one. So we'll get to that in a second. But yeah and then the Sunday games the first one is
00:20:03
Speaker
Boy who's who? Unclench the butt cheeks after like 10 minutes after the final whistle after this one because it was like it was neck-and-neck the whole time It was just super intense too. That was a thing that the Welsh players coming off the pitch Did not look like they just won a quarter final. They look like they just survived. Yeah, and we're like we did we're moving on they survived the quarter final if they didn't and The French were scoring those tries with the first two tries and like what it was the first seven minutes
France vs. Wales Match Highlights
00:20:33
Speaker
Something to that fact. Yeah, you know and that way and again, like I said Back in the French French like a wounded dog, you know being backed into a corner They're gonna come out there in a fight four minutes and seven minutes with their two tries. There you go. And I I I wanted the French to win I guess. Yeah, because I just hate whales
00:20:54
Speaker
You know and there's been but credits are whales in the sense that You know they going with Dan Biggers. There's was technically their second choice fly half There's worse people But you know Dan Biggers had to
00:21:11
Speaker
Knocks to his heads this world cup. Yeah, you know I was surprised by that choice. Yeah, you put Reese petrol in it 10. He's not one you know a Knockout game he sir. He served well in the Australia game. I'll get you gotta give him that certainly did
00:21:26
Speaker
But, you know, and then, of course, Wales loses Josh Navidi to injury. And he's off. The rest of the World Cup, too. He's done. It's a hamstring thing. And so it would have been good to, you know, see him because he's a great, you know, he's a good old Kiwi product that's Welsh. And he is a unit on top of all that. But, I mean, to be honest with the French, right, so four years from now, you know, hopefully we'll all, the three of us will all be in France for this World Cup.
00:21:55
Speaker
that woke up I think the plan is you know this is this is good for France I don't think they were expecting to get this far really I mean maybe they had high hopes but not to not to be this level of they
00:22:12
Speaker
They should they had this game. I mean so we talk about it that every tournament France rocks up with one performance So like you said James, they're they're they're they're at their best on their backs to the wall and they still hadn't had their One French performance and this was it and it's just came up short It's unfortunate that one player had to go and fucking ruin it for them
00:22:32
Speaker
Yeah. Well, yeah. I'll comment on that in a second. And that was the one game. Well, I didn't see that game. I saw France, Argentina, live in Tokyo at the Tokyo Stadium. And that was pretty cool. They played pretty good well in that game, too. And that was a great game because it was Argentinian physical rugby and then expansive French rugby. Very open flare rugby, as they do. And the drop goal, as well, which we haven't seen too many since that, really. Nope.
00:23:02
Speaker
We'll see some this weekend So that was it was pretty cool and that the French were really up for it the French fans were there and that I went there and
00:23:13
Speaker
with a beret in hand supporting the French because I've been to France a lot and once one time in middle school we went there and it was great because you could like they'd let us buy like firecrackers and corn. Oh yeah you mentioned this before. Thank you France for that and alcohol at like you know
00:23:32
Speaker
14 years old, so I love Fred's. But really, it was the Argentinian fans that were way more into it and really, really nice and welcoming. So I kind of switched allegiance. But the Gaucho men of Argentina, the guys that are like the cattle, the cowboys of Argentina, they wear berets too. So it was OK. But yeah, that elbow by Varmena, the man from New Caledonia,
Vahaamahina's Elbow Incident
00:24:01
Speaker
That was horse shit What were you doing like and he looked over like ooh, did anybody see me? There's three sets of eyes on you and there's a fuckload of cameras on you. Somebody saw it I hate to tell you as soon as the TMO buzzed down. I was like you're done
00:24:17
Speaker
The announcer said he even walked during the during the plays like, oh, that was it. There was an elbow in there from a French player. That's what I thought, too. Yeah. And I was like, oh, Wayne Wright was getting choked first. That was the first thing I saw. And I was like, uh, somebody could do something about this. And then the elbow and I was like, oh, you're done. You are so done. But he's just announced today that he's going to retire from the French national team, which I think is a little excessive.
00:24:38
Speaker
In my mind, I think if he wants to just walk away I know I think if he wants to sort of redeem himself I thought he had said that that was that the decision had been made before the World Cup So it wasn't it wasn't based on that. It was just that he was done
00:24:52
Speaker
No, he's done two things that everybody will remember him forever. Against Wales. Yeah, against Wales both times. A garbage pass that George North intercepted to win the game, and then that, which pretty much cost him the game. So sorry, Vamahina. Bye-bye. The 14 that stayed on after that.
00:25:10
Speaker
Just played their balls. They did I mean you Outside of the scrums you could not tell that there were only 14 on the field for France the way they were playing and the intensity that they brought But the scrum is what killed him
00:25:24
Speaker
Well, and for, but for me, the, the, the final, I don't know if it was the final nail in the coffin, but one that certainly started to slam the lid shut was the, the kick from Madar and they kept kicking back and forth. And I, and I thought it was a good tactic, but I was like, they can't screw any of these up. Sure enough, made our kicks went out the back and scrum way the fuck up midfield. I was like, that's not going to end right now.
00:25:44
Speaker
Especially not with the scrums like you can't take a scrum. Mm-hmm. Like that's just that's it like even by that point we knew Because they had a couple scrums, you know offensive and defense the offensive ones the ball was just shooting out they couldn't do anything with it and Because they weren't putting another they weren't putting really innate in there. No, and then the defensive ones Whales are just blowing them off the ball. So it's like well, and that's how they ended up winning but Damn
00:26:11
Speaker
Yeah, you can't take a scrum. So whatever you do like even if you you kick it directly to touch man fine That's such a better result than kicking it out the back. Yep One maxi madard. It's crazy. He's still still around. Yes. My jobs are still around. Yes You'll never miss those that's for sure Consistently had mutton jobs for like almost 10 years. I think
00:26:34
Speaker
Um, so that's absurd. Uh, second is, uh, the picture of Jaco Piper with the Welsh fans reenacting that elbow, which I think it's all fun and game personally.
00:26:46
Speaker
Probably not the best move by him. Probably after a couple of beerus. Definitely after a couple of beerus, maybe a shot or two as well. But yeah, but like, I don't think there needs to be an investigation into it. No, it's just... No, it's not a good look, but we don't need to go that level. It's not in the best taste, but it's not wrong. It's one of those like...
00:27:11
Speaker
And let's not forget he wasn't the one who called the red card It was the TMO buzzing down saying you got a look at that like he was he was I'm not saying he was fine with it But he didn't see it. He didn't see it. So it's not as though he's like. Yeah, look I I I called a red card on on France. No, I
00:27:35
Speaker
There's nothing there's nothing for him to do his hands were tied so yeah, if he's It's not the best look because he it is you know it's it just kind of shows a little bit of bias But not really it's just and the game's over right yeah, I just yeah, it's I
00:27:50
Speaker
And I'm guessing his World Cup is over at that point. Probably. Maybe not as, at least as the... Yeah, well, with South Africa still in it, it's going to be tough to say that. He won't play any part in any South African game. Right. So we'll see. And I don't know if they've announced the refs for the two semi-finals, I'm sure. Not quite yet. Nigel Owens will get the nod. In one of them, yeah, for sure.
Concerns About French Referee in World Cup Final
00:28:10
Speaker
That's what I would think, that Nigel would get to England, New Zealand, and Barnsey would get Wales south after. Rumors is going to be a French ref for the final, which just doesn't sound good at all. How to destroy the final? How to destroy the final? Oh, God. We'll see. Maybe Gus Gardner. I take him.
00:28:29
Speaker
Yeah, fantastic. I take him all day. He's great So two two more notes and then we'll move on Wainwright I thought was a bit of a suspect selection. Yes. Shut me. Shut me right the fuck up. Good for him Good on you, dude, and we can't ignore the impact on this game that Veremi Vakatawa had he was almost impossible to tackle through the Welsh. So Good on him Who was your star of the week? I forgot. Oh You know what actually wrote it down. Was it Maro?
00:28:58
Speaker
uh i think so okay
Wales vs. France Quarter-Final Thriller
00:29:00
Speaker
so that's what let's not i had a tojiya yeah okay um my who was my sit gania oh well that worked that was right bestie was mine so got 27 how about that wrote that right in your face um anyway so there's some good there was some good point stuff for this um we'll always talk about the welsh when we do start sit uh welsh move on 20 to 19 in a so
00:29:24
Speaker
Squeaky bum time match. Big time. Squeakiest of bums. Squeakiest of bums. And they will face the Springboks who broke the world's hearts and beat Japan.
Japan's Tier Status After World Cup Performance
00:29:36
Speaker
And you know, you couldn't help but cheer for Japan if you weren't pissed.
00:29:41
Speaker
They were just so, I mean, you know, as much as I was, I've been talking, like you hear the announcers say, Oh, Japan are small. Japan are small. That's, to me, that's old hat. Japan are, they're fairly sizable as a, as a team. I'm not getting in the way of. Not in this game though. Um, they, well, I mean, John, compare them to the fricking locks that. Right. It's not fair. Spring box walk out plus Dwayne Vermeel and on top of that. Yeah. And Dutoy, like Dutoy. They're just so.
00:30:11
Speaker
Yeah, they're they just like they were like they mean that one where they dragged. I don't remember who was it a Matsushima into touch. I think so. It's just like oh by the way, we're gonna now tackle you with three people Oh, we're just gonna lift you up and we'll put you down in touch Really not fair I mean it yeah that that could that would have happened to anybody It's not just Japan that that would happen to but damn they were out muscled in every respect unfortunately and
00:30:39
Speaker
Tough to out-strength, that's a Beth DeJager, it's Naaman and Malster. Yeah, it's definitely sad to see that Japanese team who just dominated Scotland and in Ireland and put on these incredible performances and certainly have brought up the question of whether they should be known as a tier two team
Sun Wolves Disbandment Debate
00:31:00
Speaker
anymore. I don't think so. Oh, I think there's no question about that. I think that should be put to bed and it should be a tier one team. If it leaves a tier one team, they should be tested. Yeah, absolutely.
00:31:07
Speaker
Also, saw today and again rumor rumors means in conjecture rumor rumor that They're they're they might reverse the decision to to knock the Sun Wolves out of million people Tune in to watch Japan play rugby. No shit Shows again Sansar is just a terrible organization right and a bunch of morons and You know get rid of getting rid of Western forests. That was stupid
00:31:37
Speaker
Well, that wasn't the best so, you know completely isolate Western Australia from from you know, that rugby which is shit So not good. I don't know. I don't know bad decisions left and right going back to positives I Found it difficult to tell when Michael leech got the ball. Did you I
00:31:59
Speaker
I don't know, man. The whole crowd. Every time he touches the ball. I guess I know who's got it. Yeah, he was everywhere in Tokyo, like in the subways, on the buildings. Everybody's painting the beards on themselves.
00:32:15
Speaker
I like that. It was cool but then also it was funny because like there's Adidas stuff so there'd be all this all-black stuff. ASICS or ASICS or whatever you want to call it. You'd see the Springboks and you'd see the Australians. And so those were the four rugby teams that you kind of saw just because of you know the brands that they're associated with.
00:32:39
Speaker
but Tokyo certainly was pretty rugby-mad and I'm sure all the other cities that had rugby in it I went down to Osaka and it was somewhat rugby-mad but not as much as Tokyo where there was a lot you could tell there's a way more Westerners on the street than usual because we were walking and eating and drinking and people from Japan do not eat or drink while they walk it's a big no-no you kind of kind of go you sit down you have your meal and then you like
00:33:08
Speaker
Okay, get about your day and another telltale sign was there were no trash cans anywhere And I was having a beer every time I saw a convenience store Well, the city's so incredibly clean everybody takes their trash home with them and
00:33:30
Speaker
I dispose it there. What's this to take? Yeah, so that was interesting.
South Africa's Physical Edge Against Japan
00:33:38
Speaker
Ultimately, though, the difference between the two teams, I mean, the score line, I think, doesn't really tell it. It's not fair. 26 to three. No,
Top Four Teams in World Cup
00:33:45
Speaker
it doesn't tell at all.
00:33:45
Speaker
I mean the possession was 54 46 in favor of Japan the territory was 50 50 like these were two fairly evenly matched teams it then the difference again was was the just the bully power that that South Africa brought yeah, and One thing I'm glad to say it ultimately is that you know that the top the four teams that moved on That are gonna be in the semis are
00:34:09
Speaker
Clearly the best four teams in the world. Yeah, I'd say so. Yeah, and and I would say of you know the the four other the losing teams in the quarterfinals I thought that that France and Japan were the two that were clearly that that next level mm-hmm and the scoreline kind of reflects that but You know again, Japan played out of their minds And like welcome to the world stage and I hope they can keep that going too This is very positive for them very
Kenki Fukuoka's Career Change
00:34:38
Speaker
It looks like, I don't know if he's confirmed it, but Kenki Fukuoka plans to turn to a medical career. That is the most Japanese thing ever. To return to their studies.
00:34:55
Speaker
Right, because he started as the reserve and he came in and he dominated that Ireland match and earned his way into the starting role and played well there too. This is a guy who, I mean, he could play professional rugby, he could keep doing this for a while, but to give that up for medical career, that's an amazing decision.
00:35:21
Speaker
Especially when you have Tokyo Olympics next year with the sevens. There's the second second Olympics. They're gonna be around Japan's gonna have a team there He could easily put his hand up. Yeah, I want to be on that team. Absolutely So, you know, I don't know if he's gonna be switching jerseys for medical coats and scrubs just yet Well, I mean it's it's a lot to there. There's a lot more opportunities now than there were for him Four weeks ago. Yep
00:35:47
Speaker
Two points I want to make and then we'll get moving on from this. Embanabe came off for injury but I also wonder if they wanted to use that as an excuse to pull him for Marx because it felt like that he was just not getting the job done.
00:36:02
Speaker
wasn't doing anything special to me. Malcolm Marks is just, he has that X factor that they probably need in a knockout game. I don't care if it's Japan, you still need that. And then two, the one thing that Japan is missing that can get them over the hump and into a semi-final
00:36:18
Speaker
Um, there's not, there's not just one, but one glaring, glaring thing is a 10 that can just get, just can make plays and you tomorrow did not get it down. The fact that he got pulled, you know, kind of says it like, and then, and at that point, you know, the Japanese are just trying anything that they can throw, throw at the wall. But, you know, he was, he wasn't special. Most of the tournament either. No, he wasn't. Um, and one last thing from me is, uh, the decision to only go with a yellow on beast.
00:36:48
Speaker
and to not involve the TMO at all. Just say, nope, it's a yellow, we're done with it. I respect the decision and the firmness with which he made it. He made it quick. He made it quick. I would have appreciated it if he had involved the TMO just to make sure. Because that looked ugly. Wasn't pretty. No, that's prop on prop. And if you're lifting a prop up. Prop on prop crime. Right.
00:37:15
Speaker
And if you're doing that to a prop, uh, do you have done something? You know, it's not like, I mean, he's, he's the beast. His nickname is the beast for a reason. And if it was a scrum half, okay, maybe you're like, he, you know, that's like not much for him, but, but a crop, I think at that point, he, he didn't do that completely accidentally. So I thought, I thought that that was a little, uh,
00:37:38
Speaker
Holds people up in in line outs and if they go or no in kick off kick offs And if they and it manages to like, you know when they hold on to them when they get fall back Yeah, yeah the beast 115 caps for that guy yeah great
00:37:53
Speaker
Player I think he got off light and very easy and that could have changed the shoulder was the only reason they yeah way with it All right, so obviously South Africa move on and like we said break the hearts of everybody around the world But they will face whales and that's again another one that's gonna be a great match for everybody watch around the world No spoilers you jerks.
Premiership Rugby's Competitive Landscape
00:38:14
Speaker
I'm watching that thing on delay. Yeah, I Don't know. I I mean I try to like not second-guess myself, but like
00:38:23
Speaker
If whales get into a World Cup final and they win the World Cup like hell will freeze over We'll see. Yeah, like the world will end if whales wins a world cup It may happen. We'll say they have some quality New Zealand. That's for sure. They might not have to might not have to yeah Okay All right. Well with all that fun there was still a lot of fun to be had and that was the opening weekend of the prep and
Bristol's Strong Premiership Start
00:38:49
Speaker
Yeah, we fun light yeah fun light. Yeah fun light So Bristol and bath got kicked off Friday night and Bristol shut me the fuck up I think we're still contenders this year your thoughts buddy. I think Nathan Hughes is Changes he changes that team. Mm-hmm and he brings the dimension that they lacked last year and
00:39:14
Speaker
Of that just bully in space it was and it was fun as hell to watch him and Mercer Compete against each other even though Mercer was hurt a little bit at first But but got himself sorted out, right? But I mean what a what a game by the Bears absolutely
00:39:31
Speaker
just that, you know, again, close to the first half. But really, Bristol separated themselves in every phase of the game from Beth in that second half. And that was the result. And one note that I want to make before we, I don't want to move on from this game too fast, but let's save a little bit of time because we'll talk about both teams when we do starter set.
00:39:58
Speaker
The Bristolian boy, Owen Lloyd getting a try on his debut coming on. You know, you got to love that. You just can't hate that. You got to love that. Man, that crowd went nuts when he got over the line. That was pretty cool. Because, I mean, and they were talking about before the match saying, like, at least the Bristol were telling people, you got to watch out for this kid. You got to watch out for this kid. And they were right. Yeah, probably played brilliantly.
00:40:22
Speaker
do you think this will um... well if nathan news continues in this form he'll sort of play himself back into that england setup come uh... six nations time i was a little shocked that he got left off the team to be to be fair but because he had been like one of eddie's boys forever so not in the past year though in the past year with the emergence of underhill curry and wilson uh... you know if if it's not of a napole it's one of those guys you know so i don't even know and and of course there was um...
00:40:50
Speaker
What's his name? Who was a couple of those shock calls that were you know? Lewis Ludlum Lewis Ludlum who actually I think is played pretty damn He has so he deserves that as well I yeah, I thought that was an interesting emission But I guess you know you play your you play your your rugby at home and you show you you can compete You can get back into the team. I think he also showed a little bit of again that
00:41:15
Speaker
ability to operate in space that I don't think he really showed that as much with with wasps I think he was more there like power guy we're gonna we're gonna bash this up with Hughes whereas Bristol were more like we're gonna spin it around throw the ball around and then oh wait we're in space let Pat Lamb does that let's give it to use in in for sure in the middle of the field or doubt wide where we know when when there's there's room for him to operate and that's really what makes a guy like him so much more effective so I think
00:41:44
Speaker
That's going to help him being in a system where he's used to better use his talents rather than just use him as a battering ram. Yeah, so Bristol take care of business 43 to 16 against their derby rivals. And man, that team is not somebody that I would sleep on by any means whatsoever.
Exeter Chiefs' Comeback Against Harlequins
00:42:04
Speaker
And then we move on to last year's top of the table finishers come at least into the regular season Exeter and Quinn's This was this had back and forth a lot Felt like Quinn's had control of this game for a long time and then all of a sudden Exeter decided to seize control. I was like, yeah, I know right Not unusual for Exeter I suppose but
00:42:27
Speaker
Yeah, it definitely felt like the twins let this one get away from them. I think they had this for the taking, and they just didn't capitalize on the opportunities they should have. The end of the game, I will say, was a little bit bizarre for me. I don't know. Did you watch this one at all? I didn't watch the second half.
00:42:46
Speaker
So Matt Kvessick, they win a penalty and there's 78 and 30 left on the clock, or that's gone on the clock. And I'm like, Why don't you take a penalty take a minute off the clock, take a penalty, you can give yourself, you know, a try at least a try lead.
00:43:05
Speaker
and then maybe to endow that back and I think it was Kim Essek that quick tapped it. I was like, dude, and they turned it over. I was like, oh, that's a terrible idea. Oh, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. They quick tapped and turned it over. Geez, that sounds fucking familiar.
00:43:22
Speaker
Let's not talk about that. But anyway, yeah, so that was kind of a hammerhead decision on his part. Sam Simmons has seemingly reclaimed a jersey. He looked pretty fucking good. So good on him. Lindaho did all right filling in for Danny Keir. I was filling out the freaking spreadsheet for the fantasy.
00:43:42
Speaker
did it. I freaking was like, wait, Tom Laudet, why is he on the Quimbs? Oh, wait, nevermind. He's on the Quimbs. I was like, no, he's on Exeter. I was like, no, he's on the Quimbs. I couldn't stop myself. Yeah. There was, I mean, obviously there was some brilliant plays.
00:43:59
Speaker
bad decisions in kicking for Quinn's going into touch on on the fall and going out the bed and stuff like that so they that's in the end what probably did him in with a game this tight so get on get on the friggin
00:44:16
Speaker
chiefs for doing what they did. I have to say it says a lot about how much they like Joe Simmons at this point that they didn't bring Steenson on and they just let him go and they because they believed he could get the job done and he did so uh you know we we talked about it like that he's gonna be their guy you know sooner or later he's gonna be their guy because Steenson is just not special. No. I think Simmons has a lot more in in in the basket than Steenson does so
00:44:44
Speaker
I still think they could use a little bit better option there. I think that's a weak point for them. Well, in terms of the two that they have currently, I'll take Simmons. Well, I'm not disagreeing. I'm just saying that overall, they need to improve on those two. Yeah, understood. I won't deny you that.
00:45:03
Speaker
Uh, so Exeter went 22 19 over the twins and let's go on to, oh boy. Uh, unfortunate things that happened at Allianz park.
Saracens' Struggles Against Northampton Saints
00:45:11
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, we hit, you know, I mean, I'm not, I'm a whole team. Is it the world cup? It's a little bit of a different story. Yeah. I mean, I can think of one, let's see, skeleton would be a usual starter. Jackson Ray would usually be a starter or on the bench. Spencer's probably in there. Good.
00:45:26
Speaker
Uh, of the guys that are, that we would get back, I'd say that's it. So we have four guys that would be in the team. I can't even say that they were all be starting that, that we're on the field for Saracen's this match and we're starting in this match. Right. So, you know, it's, it's rough. And then you look at across from the saints, they played a expansive and awesome game to that, to their credit, you know, Henry Taylor comes back and haunts us. God damn it.
00:45:53
Speaker
You know, he played his ass off Spencer had a really good game himself. Yes. No, it's not like We were spoiled for choice and that's just that was just the thing like he was buried on the death truck There was if it wasn't Wigglesworth, it was Spencer if it wasn't Spencer. It was Whiteley So he was third to fourth man down at best. So, you know, I can't blame him for moving on. I
00:46:14
Speaker
Hutch played as angry as he does because you know, he should be he should should have been in Japan He's he'd be on his way back now. Maybe you wouldn't be who knows if he was there. Yeah
00:46:25
Speaker
I think it does speak a lot for the Saracens about how little McCall trusts the guys that were on the bench because he left most of them on there. And unfortunately, Kapoku, who I thought would be a guy he would definitely bring on, instead he brings on Hunter Hill. So I was like, wow, he really doesn't trust...
00:46:43
Speaker
That was odd. I thought that was weird. And TT played all 80. Yeah, that's another thing. He was dying at the end. I think he gave up the last penalty. And that's not fair to put a prop in that position to play a full 80. And he just traveled. After he just played the World Cup. And yeah, it was just traveling. But that also goes to, like you said, that goes to show how little he trusts the reserve reserves.
00:47:10
Speaker
Yeah, we're, you know, we're scraping the bottom of the battle for the Saracens at this point with all the guys that are with Maitland. Maitland will be back next week. So that'll be one guy that they can put back. Duncan Taylor will be back next week. I would imagine as well. So that's somebody that can at least put on the bench if not start. Yeah. So it gives them some more options at the very least.
00:47:27
Speaker
And it's a shame that this is a good opportunity. This is not a good opportunity. This is a great opportunity for a lot of these younger Sarri's players, the Lewingtons. Sagan, I thought Sagan played decently within the system. He had a couple of hiccups. But Lewington to me again, he's very much a, he's very athletic, not the best decision maker. He needs to make better decisions. And I still, I'm not liking Goody at 10.
00:47:58
Speaker
No, I think they can either slide laws over or they need to bring in mail-ins. That's probably your best option. Because Goody just wasn't himself that showed up in his fantasy sport. He's a better fullback. He's so good when he has that room to operate in the space. That's his sweet spot. And he loses that at 10.
00:48:16
Speaker
Yup. Notes for the Saints, excuse me. Tamana Harrison was a late drop, so Wood had to slide to eight, and I believe it was either cold. It was either cold or talk, so I had to come into the lineup. Bolt played pretty well for themselves. Alex Moon played pretty well. Dave ribbons. I've been saying it for the whole frickin' since last year. Dave ribbons is a house. Do not fuck with him. He is so good. He plays his ass off. Bloody good. So, yeah, I like him a lot.
00:48:44
Speaker
So yeah, the Saints played a very good game. So I'm not taking anything away from them whatsoever. Full credit to Chris Boyd and his team. They earmarked this game probably when they first got the schedule and said, this is a game you can win. You can sneak up and take it. Yes, absolutely. And they did. So full credit to Saints, 27-25 at the Allianz against the Saracens. So good on them. And that puts them right back on this track that they left off on when they ended the regular season last year. So good on them.
00:49:13
Speaker
and You must have been excited about this result Worcester beaten Lester. Yeah And knowing what I know about you. Yeah, and everybody else out there probably knows about Ben as well Worcester finishing Yeah, couple good finishes. That's that's a that's a good result for them. Not even just the the school the win but actually scoring the tries instead of
00:49:34
Speaker
you know, settling for the line breaks and whatnot, with that coming away without the points. They put up the points they needed to put up in Leicester or Leicester.
00:49:46
Speaker
The expectation is that Worcester is potentially going to be one of those bottom teams. Absolutely. If not the bottom of the barrel. This is a huge one for them. This was a huge win for them. Again, another big loss to open the season for Leicester. Maybe the score line wasn't what it was last year, but the result being the same is not good, especially against the team that they were playing. This is a team they had a hard time beating last year, too. I mean, that speaks a lot to that.
00:50:14
Speaker
Are the bugs still around from luster? This is the sign that they still are right? You know kind of heads up I mean it also doesn't help that they're only good players I shouldn't say they're only good players most of their most of their decent players are are in Japan yeah, so they you know when you're when you're stuck with you know the Cal ingredients and Guy Thompson's and then everyone else's who the fuck are they and
00:50:36
Speaker
Yeah, it's not bad. But yeah, there's some guys that here that probably Wouldn't be in the lineup if it wasn't if it wasn't for the fact that this is a right up on the other but the bigger problem is that there's guys who are Gonna be in the lineup even when those guys are back and that's gonna be troubling for them in the long run, right? I I was really really
00:50:59
Speaker
Remember when we were talking about the issues with England and their back rows and what they didn't have for them? Ted Hill played himself a hell of a game here and you know we just talked about a couple others in the Bath Bristol game and even in the Saracens game guys like Ben Earl stepped up you know I don't think that problem exists anymore certainly not at the flank.
00:51:21
Speaker
And then also, I mean, we haven't gotten to them yet. And I've sadly forgotten about the poor guy because he definitely was going to be on that plane. But Brad Shields came over to England just because he wanted to go to the World Cup. Yep. And injuries kind of buggered that one. Yeah. He went to the wrong team for that, too. So to Wasp.
00:51:41
Speaker
But, um, well, maybe you never know if, if something happens to an English second row, I mean, you know, flank or something, maybe he'll, uh, they'll put them on a plane. Put them on the plane. We'll see. Uh, but yeah, Worcester take care of it 24 to 16 and, uh, good on them. This is a good start to them to at least challenge, to make sure that they're not the, like, it's not such a cakewalk for them to get relegated. Yeah, it's not either them or I, or London and Irish. Or maybe Lester. Right. Well, Lester's my dark horse. Yeah.
00:52:08
Speaker
to go down. Um, so yeah, good, good on them. Especially with the result. We're going to talk about two games from
Sale Sharks' Narrow Victory Over Gloucester
00:52:14
Speaker
now. Yep. Absolutely. Did you watch the sale glosser game? I looked at the result and said, fuck that. I'm not watching that dude. So really we can talk about the one thing. And listen, I think, I think sale played a pretty darn good game. They let Gloucester back in. That's, you know, it pretty much, as you can see it right here, especially if you look at kind of the flow that we have here, a lot of sale, a lot of sale, then Gloucester storming back the end of the game.
00:52:37
Speaker
They got the sale got a penalty and Robert Dupree had knocked it off the post Oh and it and they and glosser was able to gather and kick it out Would it be fair to say that sale is essentially like South Africa? We talked about that Yeah that for some reason that
00:52:53
Speaker
They're the sale sharks. We played for some sharks, but now we play for these ones in the north of England. I think they're in Salford, just outside of Manchester, which is a dark place.
00:53:09
Speaker
But I think that's gonna make sale especially when Tom Curry comes back. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and they got a couple of South Africa Yeah, I think they're gonna be They'll be formidable. Yeah, it definitely they won't be somebody to sleep on by I think it's about time that a team another team sorry serious fans over here, but I
00:53:29
Speaker
Comes in and challenges for the for the for the title I think well, I think there's like I mean, I don't see any reason why Gloucester can't be that team I don't see any reason at this point why Bristol can't be that team I think if and yeah, I'm a little biased on this one, but I think if any team here is looking at
00:53:49
Speaker
And it was any team that the top of the table from last year is should be looking very closely at their rearview mirror It's Exeter. Yeah, because Saracens can play any style Whereas Exeter really are limited to their keep it in the forwards crash it crap. They don't really have the backs Well, maybe they will when the the World Cup is over. It's back. That's about the best thing I got but still that's also very good. Yes Yeah, Slade and Noel are gonna help them considerably, but they didn't really
00:54:16
Speaker
I don't think they were terribly impact players. No, it was hurt last year. Yeah. And that'll change things. But and I'm really interested in seeing what a hockey brings to the table there. Right. I'm just I think of any of the teams, though, the fact that Bristol can now operate in space and in tight and Worcester if they've put stuff together and then Gloucester and sale. There's a lot of competition there. There won't be any easy games this this year. No competition. I think the
00:54:46
Speaker
The gaps that we saw both at the bottom and the top will be gone. This is going to be tooth and nail. I think you're going to see it 12 to 1. I think it's more like 1 to 9. Either way. Either way, that's 9. But even the gap between 9 and 10 isn't going to be nearly as big as we saw for the bottom teams last year. A couple points that I want to make and then we'll move on here. Akavinder Merva played very well in his debut for the sale sharks. Offloaded one to get, I think it was Byron McGuigan that got over and
00:55:15
Speaker
another guy that probably should be, should have been in Japan, but good on him. The DePereir brothers all played pretty well for themselves. Jailed DePereir playing in the second row really kind of made me raise an eyebrow here and there, but if that's where he's gonna play, that's not a bad idea. Nope. Very dynamic as a second, if he's gonna play second row.
00:55:31
Speaker
Um, and I thought the gloss German played pretty well come second half. They had to have a rocket shoved up their butt, but it, uh, it did come through. Um, they were able to stifle thoroughly what they forgot about Marshall and Woodward. So yeah. And Atkinson does, as he kept, kept doing since last year, which is just follow.
00:55:49
Speaker
follow somebody that's gonna make a line break and then gather the ball for himself for a try. And Billy 12 trees also just a consistent rock. He's always been a rock for that team. Whether it's that long luscious locks of his or just that just he's such a posh boy.
00:56:08
Speaker
It's crazy to think that he was he was a line at one point. He went on the line sort of Australia, right? But yeah Gloucester Gloucester, I think are building on there last year absolutely gonna be good. Yep 1816 Gloucester taken home after a unfortunate missed kick from Robert de Priya that could have won sale the game So Gloucester run away with four points happily
London Irish's Victory Over Wasps
00:56:30
Speaker
And then the Sunday game, Wasp and London Irish, man, this, this had, this was a damn good game. It was, it was a, you know, full credit to both teams, really, but, man, give- The Irish staked out a lead that, that Wasp just couldn't, they didn't have the firepower to come back from. Right. Blair Cowan, like, I don't remember him playing to this level when he was last in the Premiership, do you?
00:56:53
Speaker
I know he played for the series for a hot minute. I know he played for the series for a hot minute and he did okay, but that's because we were banged up like holy hell. But I don't remember him playing to this level. He played unbelievable. Easy shift, casual 22 tackles, no big deal. Yeah. And we just talked about Youngback Rose.
00:57:15
Speaker
Jack Willis oh my goodness this kid I don't know how many pilfers he had but this don't get tackled near him because he was taking everything he was literally taking everything or winning pens he won five turnovers yeah and how many pens to do when it would be the next question I would I would want to know because he definitely won at least three or four of those it doesn't say oh man he would he
00:57:38
Speaker
Don't get tackled near him. It's too bad that he had to have the injury that he had because I have no doubt about it. If he was playing at this level, he'd be on that plane. He'd be in Japan right now. And that's not a knock on any of the guys that are there. He'd be in there because it'd be really hard to get him away because he's such a fetcher right now. And you need to have at least one that you can call on even if you have to throw him on off the bench. You have to have that. And he was taking everything away.
00:58:03
Speaker
He needed one more, but he didn't get it, and it was a goal-line stand by Irish that got him over the line and got them the win. But I thought there was some good stuff in this game. Cib Riggi played out of his mind, which I knew he would because he was so good at Newcastle. He was just buried in the depth chart. Again, he had a lot of guys in front of him that was really unfortunate.
00:58:23
Speaker
I thought he played spectacularly. Obviously you got two over the line, but probably should have a third, if not for what could have been argued as an intentional knock, maybe a penalty try. Not for me to decide. I don't question JP Doyle. I was confused though towards the end with the Irish being a man up and they're the ones who are wasting time at the scrum.
00:58:49
Speaker
I was like, even, even like the referee was like, Hey, they're, they're the ones who are, who are, who are wasting our time here. Like, uh, if they want to get people, like, I understand if wasps were trying to, to fuck with the scrum, but it's not them, it's the Irish. And then they, they settled for a penalty kick instead of, uh, continuing on the pressure with, with the man up. Um, just some odd decisions on their part, but it didn't obviously didn't change the outcome. Right. Um, but it could have.
00:59:14
Speaker
Yeah, it was good to see Dan Robson back in the inform because you know He obviously had that scare at the end of last year and i'm glad he's back. He's firing He looks like he's happily playing rugby again I think he's got a new perspective on life after that little that little hiccup too. So good on him He who should not be named in this match played like poop
00:59:34
Speaker
uh pj uh-huh yeah that one um yeah he played like absolute crap it was weird to see nizem car without a scrum cap i will say that yeah it was really weird i was like does that car yeah well i mean where's the scrum cap he's pretty easy to spot now he's got the shiny shininess there yeah that'll do it you know a thing about two about that one there bud
00:59:53
Speaker
Yeah, I do. But I was just thinking this is his general size. It's like, oh, there's car. Yeah, he is a unit, too. Yes, I'll give you that one. Jacob Umaga stepped in at 10, Tana's nephew. I was like, well, there's worse bloodlines that you can be from. Yeah. We were talking earlier before we went live.
01:00:12
Speaker
also crazy. I didn't know Curtis Rona signed for Leonard Irish in one of the many. Sean O'Brien is going to be joining them once he gets Fighting Fit again. Yep. So, there's some some pretty Wysocki Noholo is going to play for them. Yeah. Yeah. Nick Phipps. Yup. Mafia, right? Yeah. I'm sure they want Phipps sooner than later because Steel, Steel, Steel hurt his hand in this game and had to come off. Although, his his replacement. Yeah, Adam Coleman's coming over. Holy crap. So, there's quite, you
01:00:43
Speaker
They're not a team you can sleep on now. No, definitely not. This is sort of a team of mercenaries now. A little bit. It looks like a sort of a barbarian second team. That was our question going into the season, is how quickly those guys can gel. And if they can gel quickly, then they could cause some damage.
Premiership Rugby Relegation Speculation
01:01:03
Speaker
People are picking the Irish to be relegated just because they're there when maybe they don't belong. They were the new guys, but that doesn't necessarily
01:01:11
Speaker
That doesn't mean shit. If anybody looked at the other team that was across the way from them, too, to me, Wasp has a lot of questions. They're not missing much from the World Cup. So if this is what they got,
01:01:26
Speaker
Yeah, it's going to be a fucking long season at the Rico. It will be. Um, so two things that I wanted to just note for was, um, there's two guys that they've been trying to find the answer to certainly one since last year. Um, I think they have the answers. Uh, LaRue is gone. Obviously the guy that pretends he's playing in the NFL now is also, is also gone. Um, I think they have it Christian. Oh God.
01:01:50
Speaker
So I think Marcus Watson and Zach Kaburige have answered all their problems in terms of that. Yes. So they can probably sign that up and then, you know, yeah, they can bring some, they have Ross Neal and the likes. Josh Bassett's obviously a solid winger, but I think that's, I think they have their answers at those two positions for a long time. Speaking of, of rugby players that want to try and break into the NFL.
01:02:12
Speaker
I just read that Valentine Holmes, who was a huge NRL star, he is probably going to come back to the NRL. He was signed with the Jets. That was his first problem right there. Through that international program that they had that Christian Wade did.
01:02:30
Speaker
Surprise surprise. He's probably coming back. It's just it needs to stop this whole rugby players thinks they can get into the NFL It's unfortunate, but it's not gonna happen I think it's something that goes over people's head over in England like if The NFL wasn't holding spots for guys like that Christian Wade would have been whacked not just like they have a spot for that on their practice squad He even whacked a long time ago
01:02:52
Speaker
So he wouldn't made it. He wouldn't made it after the first week of training. He had that fluke touchdown, but nobody's even close to him because they don't know how to play defense. Yeah. Yeah. It's such a different sport. And the, the, the, what the questions that are asked of players in the NFL is so different than what's in, in rugby. Right. And we talked about with, um, Ty leader, um,
01:03:16
Speaker
It's so much less like it's not Here's the structure in which you play and i'll go do it It's this is what you're doing on this play this exactly and if you don't do this what you're doing then You're you're not doing this you're doing this. That's it. There's no like there's no fluidity to it whatsoever Yeah, it's very rigid
01:03:33
Speaker
And it's a big, even, you know, changing sports is a big ask, but to then change the whole style of it, it's just not a good idea. If you're good at rugby, stick with the rugby. Yeah, please. Such a better sport anyway. No argument out of me, man. We'll save time by skipping over that. Let's do heart. You can tell my brain's fried.
01:04:01
Speaker
Let's do starter sit for the upcoming World Cup matches and then we'll go to go to pick them Yeah, so you're you're up there a guy England, New Zealand, England, New Zealand These are the two best defensive fantasy teams in the tournament their third
01:04:17
Speaker
I think there are two and three. I can't recall who won is off the top of my head. I'll double check. Keep going. As far as giving up total points. New Zealand, they give up their points in the centers. They stifle fullbacks and fly half. Ireland's locks put up points against them in the quarterfinals. So that's something to watch out for.
01:04:36
Speaker
England they're they're kind of leaky at fly half prop in the back three They don't give up points to centers hookers or back row, especially eights So my starts for if you're when you're looking to do this match Aaron Smith, Richie Muonga bridge Bowdoin and Reese play Sevilla and read they're both matchup proof and pretty much uncitable right now and
01:04:59
Speaker
Uh, for England, uh, Curry and Underhill, uh, Jamie George's matchup proof. And because of what, uh, Ireland did, I would say it told you in laws are, are start worthy. Um, for sits, um, Kohl's and Taylor for New Zealand, um, Retalik Goodhue and maybe Stowe Leonard Brown on your bench.
01:05:17
Speaker
Right for England Faz I Hate to say it. He's somebody you should probably sit. Yeah, and as much as I think Oh fuck I'm losing him
01:05:32
Speaker
to a laggy. Yeah. Well, he may have a good day. I'm still saying sit him. Yeah. Well, we talked about it. He's super inconsistent. So maybe this is the one time that he hits and the last time he hit was Tonga. Right. And absolutely daily. Do not fucking daily. No. Uh, New Zealand is two. England is three. I got there. So there you go. So yeah, still top three, right? Two top three teams. Uh, right. Uh,
01:05:55
Speaker
the Welsh and the South Africans. So first for the Welsh, the big one, the I went by the big names that were fairly highly percentage owned. Tom Francis is not a prop. You want to start Hadley Parks and should not be in there. Davies, if he plays, OK, he's probably he's nearly match up proof. That's fine. Which Davies? Yes, sorry. Which Davies? Which Jones? What's Adam? No shit. Fucking all of Wales. Jonathan Davies, the center. Sorry.
01:06:26
Speaker
Tipperick, the back rows are actually, the back rows are probably actually okay to play. So Tipperick and Moriarty, especially Wayne Wright, if you have him, he's not super highly owned, but if you have him, go for it. The big name that you probably want to sit is Alan Nguyen and Ken Owens, definitely. They're going to cause, you know, you saw what happened with the Japanese.
01:06:45
Speaker
Bad news at layout time, which is where most of these guys make their points. No bueno. Of the wings, Adams is almost match-up proof. Obviously he didn't perform super well this one, but if you're going to start one or the other, start Adams, don't start North. Any names I missed.
01:07:01
Speaker
Bigger is actually a fly half. You could probably feel okay about starting. There's nobody you're gonna feel amazing about starting at this point. Bigger's probably one that you can feel pretty good about. The two times he's finished, he scored like 24 plus. So that's what you're looking for. You're looking for at least that. You'll get a 53 in there somewhere, I promise. It's probably not gonna be him, but he's still startable by all means. And Sanjay Willis, Liam Williams, stay away. Stay away.
01:07:26
Speaker
for the box. There's some goods and there's some bads. If there's a lock that I'm going to start, it's Lou Diager, he's been on fire. But actually, the Welsh are almost equally as much of a pain in the ass at the line of time and second rows especially. Their back rows are actually doing well against the Welsh.
01:07:46
Speaker
So Khaleesi and T'Twa, not so much, but Vermeul, and if you feel very much like you need to start them, go ahead. Khaleesi just seems to be catching fire lately anyway. Don't start marks or bungie, nope.
01:08:07
Speaker
I hate to say it, but of the back three that seems to be catching everything that he's supposed to catch, Mack Mepimpy's been much better than Colbay. And I mean, if LaRue's in your team, you just quit because you're dumb. Sorry. You're going to pick one of Mepimpy and Colbay, and you're going to pick wrong. Mepimpy. Just realize that that's what's going to happen.
01:08:29
Speaker
Yeah, so like I said of any like the only like I said, the only lock to start is to yogurt Don't start at any of the props that includes the beast was highly owned which is weird. Yeah
01:08:40
Speaker
Andre Pollard, if you're stuck, if you're stuck, okay. Well, 10s are at a premium, this is right. Yeah, if you're kind of like, all right, I've made all the transfers I can make and the best 10 that I have left is Pollard or. Well, it's unlimited transfers right now, so. Is it unlimited now? Yeah. I thought it was like five. No, like it's unlimited. Okay. Well, even better. Anyway, maybe you've hit your cold on team, on your players. Right. Faf set.
01:09:05
Speaker
Yes. Despite the fact that the wells aren't that good. Okay, and then let's roll through these real fast. Friday night, you got the first match of the week for the prem.
01:09:15
Speaker
I do. Yay. Beth versus Exeter. Starts for Beth. Laudé went for 27 against Exeter, so go with Mercer. The Queen's Locks did well too, so go Stuke and Ewells. Probably good options. Exeter, Sam Simmons and Mac of Essek, and as always, Jack Yandell.
01:09:35
Speaker
Sits for basically the backs bath most of their back lines not sure how much action they're gonna get against Exeter And then for Exeter their centers Henderson Witten Witten Devoto if he's playing I would sit all of them Yeah, there you go. All right All right
01:10:01
Speaker
Anyway, so for the Saints, we got Saints and Wooster. So, I mean, Wooster's gonna be pretty easy. The guy's like, Ted Hill, I would definitely rock him. Who Guard had a great game. Weird didn't have a good game, but I'd still go ahead and play him if he's your guy. Marco Mama played pretty well, so I'd go ahead and do that. That's the only flanker. Those are the only two flankers I'd go. G.J. Van Velsa and Dupree, I haven't been that good.
01:10:28
Speaker
Not I, he had a bad start, but I'd still go ahead and play him. Mills is so bloody cheap, it's hard to ignore him. So I would play him as well, and then make your choice of either Pennell or Humphries. One of them should be okay if you need a Worcester player, so that's not a bad idea.
01:10:45
Speaker
Anyway, for the Saints, it's going to be pretty easy. Nairavoro, Waller don't start either at all and actually don't start the Saints front row if you're playing FRD. Hutch is a yes and a yes. Dave Ribbons is a yes and a yes. And so is Tom Collins, because he's, again, we talked about it. He doesn't always do great, but he's too damn cheap to just drop. So got to do with it.
01:11:06
Speaker
London Irish versus sale starts the Irish locks not in and both uh, Mm-hmm and then Rona in the centers for sale Wasps backroaded. Well, so look for sales back row to have a day that you've got I'm sure two or three on your roster Those should be on your team I for the for the sits sit Voldemort
Sale's Performance Predictions
01:11:30
Speaker
Because sale locked down Cipriani last week. I think they could probably do the same to this douche You guys are just bringing zero attention to him No, I'm serious. No, no. No, I mean I appreciate it the guys kind of a piece of shit Yeah, yeah, and then for sales for sale that for sits the the centers the Irish stopped better in my opinion better centers for the wasps than what sale are bringing so I would assume that they would do Yeah, what are you with that?
Fantasy Rugby Player Recommendations
01:11:57
Speaker
Gloucester Gloucester and wasp the aforementioned wasp There's a couple guys that you just can't even bother to sit sips Woodward thoroughly Definitely got to go basically any lock with a pulse in FRD is viable So if he's start if somebody starting go ahead Slater might be one of the better ones just FY FY but definitely TRM starts later
01:12:19
Speaker
Locks, whatever you get from locks are bonus. Yeah, you're just gonna have to be happy. 12 trees is probably a no in TRM but a yes in FRD because it's so little choice. And the kicker. Yeah, and that adds value to them. And Akarva, Ruan Akerman is the word I was looking for. God damn, too many fucking South Africans crossing me up here.
01:12:40
Speaker
Ruan Akerman definitely play him and really if Pledri's back, go ahead. Go ahead. Definitely. Definitely. For the wasps, Fikitoa didn't have a good start, but he'll come good, especially playing next to Sope Wagga. So that'll be good. Sope Wagga is a yes in both formats, especially FRD.
01:12:57
Speaker
Robson. Yes. And both Watson and Kibery. Yes. Jack Willis. Go get him. That's a big one that I've got. He's not in a lot of leagues. Like I checked both our leagues available. So go get him. You know, by the way, where the hell is my dollar? I get it. Yeah, I remember that one. Unfortunately, I do not. Yeah. Hooray. Gaskell again. Yeah. Walk with a pulse. An FRD. Yes. If you can get away from in TRM, do it.
01:13:28
Speaker
Quinn's versus the bursts For the Quinn's Start, I mean, you know the guys Dom Brett Marcus Smith should have a good day Danny care should
Fantasy Rugby Draft Insights
01:13:38
Speaker
play in this one. So I give him a look basically start their bigger fantasy names. You should do all right. Yep for Bristol I think at this point Nathan Hughes is gonna be a starter until he shows otherwise Yeah Thacker obviously same thing
01:13:52
Speaker
Even though he had kind of a down week, but that's down week for him. Down week for him is pretty good for most players. Right, so still start him. Jonofoa, since the Quinn's props are over in Japan, he should have a good point. Good day. Prothro and Morihan should roll their success from week one into week two. Morihan's a solid, solid back. Yep, you look pretty good. For Sitz, the aforementioned Harley Quinn's front row, don't touch them in either format. And the Bristol centers.
01:14:20
Speaker
Yeah, good talk. All right, and then our boys playing your most hated rivals on Sunday. I'm sure you're going to enjoy watching this one. Yes, I will. Or have a heart attack. I'm not sure which one. No, probably the front one. So for Lester, Guy Thompson is hard to sit in both formats, so you probably want to roll him up there.
01:14:39
Speaker
Callen green is probably worthy of a start in TRM and again and you lock with a pulse That's decent is worth your is worth your time in FRD Bateman I would stay away from as well as the lesser front row even though he's highly owned. I don't understand that although a fella is somebody if you're stuck in FRD But if you do not if if you have him, but you have other options in TRM, please don't play him Saracen's usually are pretty good against back three.
Player Start or Bench Strategy
01:15:05
Speaker
Anyway, I
01:15:05
Speaker
Um, for the series, uh, good, hopefully returns back to fullback. Um, and if, especially if he does, he's a yes, but it's still playing me the way laws is a no in TRM, but a yes in, um, FRD because he's actually still pretty good, especially for the midfielders that are select are available right now. Right.
01:15:23
Speaker
Skelts same rules as with all locks, but definitely play him a TRM Tomkins definitely in both formats He played amazing and both he did scored very well in both formats and so did Ben Spencer So go ahead and roll that guy. I have a disagreement with you on this some of this. What's that?
01:15:37
Speaker
Which is, for me, Guy Thompson is going to be my sit of the week. That's fine. I disagree with you, Don Armour, last weekend in a plane. Yeah. That was the kiss of death, I suppose. Hey, that's your sit of the week, not mine. Yeah. That's OK.
01:15:53
Speaker
For the record, my starts of the week. I'll just throw them out there because I did them now. For my World Cup start is Aaron Smith. My World Cup sit is Liam Williams.
Future Game Player Selections
01:16:06
Speaker
My Premiership start of the week will be Sam Simmons. After he was rolled back, I think Simmons with his speed is going to do much worse.
01:16:16
Speaker
And then Guy Thompson, because Sarri's just give up nothing to eight men. Right. Or even just back rows, for the most part, in general. So my start is definitely going to be Ben Earl. Assuming he plays, and there's no reason that, I don't think he has a reason not to. I mean, you look at what Ted Hill did against Lester, and I don't see a reason why that he can't repeat it. So definitely play him.
01:16:42
Speaker
same game, I don't understand why he's so highly owned. Greg Bateman, sit him and sit the fucking Lester front row. Like, what is wrong with you people? For my woke up, I would say, Lou Diager, start of the week, I talked him up already, for the South Africans, and then, same position, same game, big guy, Alan Win Jones, sit him. I'm not saying he's not gonna perform well to it for his team, but I just don't think it's, the points
England vs. New Zealand and South Africa vs. Wales Predictions
01:17:08
Speaker
won't be there. You saw what they did to the Japanese and,
01:17:11
Speaker
you know two-fold that and it's just going to end poorly for everybody all right pick them let's go to pick them and then we can gtfo lads i know james is itching to get out of here because he wants to go watch the paytubes game it's the only time i like american football
01:17:27
Speaker
Fair enough. Okay. First time I final the big one. England, New Zealand. Is this Sam Underhill's Revenge or is this the same story, different chapter here? Is England's time to shine? Yeah. Eddie Jones has got them to this point. He will just mentally tear you down. I think it's going to be close, but I think England are going to take it.
01:17:55
Speaker
I agree with James. I think this is this match is why they have Eddie Jones as their coach right now. And I think that as much as it's been made about his selections and who he brought with him.
01:18:11
Speaker
I feel like England can play any style they need to and they'll find a way again I mean, so can New Zealand this I mean, this is gonna be a fantastic match I don't think it's gonna turn out the way New Zealand Ireland did just because England can can open match and still maintain their defensive structure. So I think England's gonna win it in the squeaker Also, I don't know if the world wants to see New Zealand win a third World Cup in
Premiership Game Forecasts
01:18:36
Speaker
a row
01:18:36
Speaker
There's a lot of people that probably don't yeah. Nobody really wants to see me I'm with the boys here. I'm you know, take england I think they have the thumpers that can put the all blacks on their butts And they just gotta as long as they keep their heads on us a little for those fucking offloads. They'll be good. Yeah, exactly Um, and the other one south africa and wales ben are you gonna stick with your pretty woke up prediction? I'm sticking with it. I'm going with south africa. Okay. Yeah, I agree. I don't think um
01:19:01
Speaker
I think Wales barely made it out of France and South Africa have peaked at the right time. They've gotten back to South African physical rugby. Yeah. And I think, you know, this is the reemergence of South Africa. I think they've got a great captain and Razi Erasmus is an incredible coach. Yeah. So yeah, the box are going back to the World Cup final.
01:19:27
Speaker
I would I would pick whales if it wasn't for war in gallon. That's the only thing that's turning me off This would be the great way to send them off Okay, so we're gonna have so whatever yeah Yeah, so we'll have a repeat repeat of 2007.
Further Premiership Game Analysis
01:19:46
Speaker
It looks like The boys and I are right here
01:19:50
Speaker
Okay, let's go to the prem. Friday night, bath and exit are back back home. And I don't think it's going to do them a whole lot of good. I don't see why the why Exeter don't steamroll them in the typical Exeter fashion, especially with the fact that they've all of a sudden found guys like Kirsten and Vermeel and to fill in those jerseys as quote unquote backups. I was like, Yeah, that's a terrifying thought. Alright, so I'm gonna go with the Chiefs.
01:20:14
Speaker
Me as well. Yeah, you know a little you know a little bit of West Country battle there in the west of England, but the Exeter men are gonna get right These guys were kind of my boys last year as apart from the Saracens and I They haven't turned me off from a mother the fact that they beat us But I can't hate them for that because I played an amazing game Saints Worcester. I'm gonna go with the Saints
01:20:38
Speaker
I'm gonna go with they have a little bit of a letdown. Oh, yeah. Yeah and go with Worcester. Worcester show that show some teeth and say we ain't going down that easily. Who is home for this game? Yeah, that's that was the other factor for me. That's a factor. Saints at the gardens are are a tough ask.
01:21:00
Speaker
And London Irish in their first home game since coming back up at the wonderful Majeski Stadium in Reading, which is about an hour too far out of London. But just the same, I'm going to go with the Exiles.
01:21:18
Speaker
Wow. Okay. Yep. You know, I, Oh, I'm going to flip a freaking coin on this one. Uh, I'll go with sale. Sale did play a damn good match and probably deserved to win that apart from Robert. Yeah. And I have to also factor in the fact that the Irish are playing wasps who I don't have a lot of respect for right now. Fair enough.
01:21:35
Speaker
uh i'm gonna say south africa uh or south africa b side yeah there you go beta um so glosser and wasp and don't even don't speak i know i know you're picking uh glosser it is i'm gonna take glosser as well yeah hard to we are aligned hard to argue with that uh quinn's at and bristle quinn quinn's in their first match back at the stoop
01:22:03
Speaker
I can't take Bristol. I can't help it. Also, I don't like the twins that much. So despite the fact that Guzzy's there, I do like Guzzy, but there's some things that the twins do not like. I have a little bear in my pants. I think there's something I can do about this year. I love that team. I couldn't tell if even if you stood up, but yeah, sorry. I think Harley Quinn's are going to pull this one off. Quinn's pulled off. Yeah. I think they're setting up for a decent season. Yeah.
01:22:31
Speaker
Yeah, no, they're going to be they're back in Europe. They're going to they're going to have a good season.
Saracens vs. Leicester Final Analysis and Social Media Wrap-up
01:22:36
Speaker
I just and, you know, two losses in a row sucks, but it's not something that they can't bounce back. So I think they'll be OK. I think Bristol's front row are going to have a good advantage there.
01:22:47
Speaker
That's it. Yeah, you're not arguing with me, although I do like Scott Baldwin. Lester Saracen's. We all know where we're going with this. I think so too. Saracen's are going to be pissed. Yeah, a little bit. Lester are still Lester, and their lineup's not going to change all that much from last week to this coming week. So sorry to say that. And Saracen's need this, which. Yeah, Mark McCall is going to read them the riot act, and they'll rock up for this one.
01:23:12
Speaker
OK, well, we got a lot talked about. Thanks for bearing with us, guys. And make sure that you're checking out us on Twitter. Ben and I will be happy to answer questions, obviously, about FRD lineups and TRM. I'm going to try and put some stuff out tomorrow morning
01:23:30
Speaker
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01:23:52
Speaker
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