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jarrod_dyke: Let's just go match by match. We're not going to do our pick-em yet, but we're going to match by match and just kind look at it. Okay. First game of the day is going to be Ireland-Scotland. I will be on my way home from work. Thank God it starts a little later than normal.
jarrod_dyke: Ooh, um
jarrod_dyke: yeah. If you had told me that Scotland were going to be playing to win this competition in the last weekend, along with France, I'm not sure I would believed you. i I think I would have taken the...
jarrod_dyke: I think I would bet that that would happen like very cheaply on the off chance it did because the odds weren't good. i mean, the odds were, you know, very good payout, but like the probabilities were bleh.
jarrod_dyke: Especially after they lost to Italy.
jarrod_dyke: Like, wow.
jarrod_dyke: which they did quite handedly.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. i see i see two issues for Scotland going forward, and it has to do with guys that have caught my eye and also...
jarrod_dyke: problem areas where they're really going be in trouble. Um, staying has had a great tournament for them so far, you know, barring that Italy game, like this game, I got player of the map in the freaking medical room. Like,
jarrod_dyke: Hmm.
jarrod_dyke: yep splash splash splash
jarrod_dyke: it's hard yeah
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, no, that's that's tough work right there. That really is. um Right.
jarrod_dyke: Yep.
jarrod_dyke: Graham.
jarrod_dyke: Yep.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. Yeah, Sadie's gonna probably miss this round, but...
jarrod_dyke: but Didn't look great after that two-pound tackle, but yeah, he's he's played well, and then they are going to be hurting in that lock department, and I understand they're just they're probably just going to find their plotters. Gilchrist will get in there, and probably Williamson, who aren't going to do anything special, but hopefully they don't lose the game for them either. I think that's probably more or less going to be their role.
jarrod_dyke: when they get in there. But I i thought stock Scott Cummins had a really good tournament. I thought Gregor Brown was really putting his hand up as well. So I feel for them and yeah the way they've had to bow out of this tournament in the fashion they did. they did So i I feel for them. um On the other side, as much as we want to talk about Scotland and how well they've played the last three, four weeks, ah
jarrod_dyke: Ireland haven't played well the last... the last few weeks, but the last two, yeah, better, better. I mean, last round, okay, not great, but you know, they, they did some good things.
jarrod_dyke: Wales. Yeah. Yeah. I'll say Wales in card in Cardiff is clearly sound, seems like it's more of a challenge than Wales on the road.
jarrod_dyke: um Although they were at the Viva, weren't they? Shit. Damn it. So they really should have just steamrolled them. Yeah, you're right. Sorry.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, and Scotland we were a little hungover from the England game, so it it made sense. And then they they still turned it on in the second half and out like ran away. like Second half, if you just look at that, that is how I expected the game to go for the most part.
jarrod_dyke: not Not anything near what happened in the first half of that game.
jarrod_dyke: but um yeah i mean ireland last week not amazing but did did enough against italy again not amazing but did enough and then did they play particularly well against england no did they play poorly hell no they did not they they played pretty well they probably ouch you know they probably overshot themselves a little bit to say the least um So i don't I don't think that's the game we can expect them to bring this weekend. Right.
jarrod_dyke: Right.
jarrod_dyke: right
jarrod_dyke: Just through the day. Yeah, I'm... Dogbo would have been... knight hope I hope he gets a run. um Is it Jukwu? I don't know if he's healthy or not.
jarrod_dyke: But a couple of guys that I would love to see get some more time in there. Because, again, why the fuck do you need James Ryan? Like, what the fuck's he doing?
jarrod_dyke: It's terrifying to think that, like, guys that are in the same category... one ah One of which they've realized what his role actually is in the other two people think they're more like, I would liken Beard, Gilchrist, and Ryan all into the same boat.
jarrod_dyke: And Scotland figured out what Gilchrist is. They're like, you're a job. You come on and you finish the job but after the other two guys do all the work. Why James Ryan's getting starting minutes, I haven't got a clue, honestly.
jarrod_dyke: Wasn't me.
jarrod_dyke: but yeah
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, don't turn into that. don't Don't turn into that. It doesn't do the game any good. doesn't do your team any good, really.
jarrod_dyke: who Exactly.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, he definitely was one of the guys that started doing things that props weren't supposed to do and then made it common for or props to do those types of things.
jarrod_dyke: Oh.
jarrod_dyke: It's
jarrod_dyke: not another drink, I promise you.
jarrod_dyke: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: All right. Yeah, my Chrome just shit.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, I don't know why. Mine was fine last week. I think I just had too much open.
Grumpy Old Prop: And my battery is actually charging now. So maybe it's, yeah, maybe it was just, yeah.
jarrod_dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: All right.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: and these two teams meeting up and it could just be, you know, any, it's really anyone's game.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. Or they need to, so yeah, nah.
Grumpy Old Prop: I don't care that it's at Aviva.
jarrod_dyke: Or they somehow need to get the point differential to their, yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: They're two jammy squads that, you know, Scotland, Scotland could have a day or it could just, you know, Ireland or could just cunt them up and, and keep it in tight.
jarrod_dyke: Well, so Ireland need England to win. Scotland can get a bonus point win and and France cannot, and then they'll win it.
Grumpy Old Prop: And, um, who the fuck knows?
jarrod_dyke: So that's the upside for Scotland. They have that luxury.
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm, I'm excited for this one because the, both of them, I mean, both of them have a shot.
jarrod_dyke: Ireland do not.
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean, yeah, the, both of them need England to win.
Grumpy Old Prop: So,
Grumpy Old Prop: or a tie or something or yeah.
jarrod_dyke: but Just to say fuck you to France? Maybe. Maybe.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's true, that's true.
Grumpy Old Prop: so so
jarrod_dyke: let's go to the second game on Super Saturday, Wales-Italy.
Grumpy Old Prop: So here's the question then, here's the question. If you're Ireland,
jarrod_dyke: You know, the best thing I could say about Wales is they've tried.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, you make them win it they're there They'd be like that. i like if If you're losing, if you know you're losing, do you do you concede the bonus point? And yeah just be like, fuck you to France.
Grumpy Old Prop: I don't know. I don't think they do, but it's just a fun thought.
jarrod_dyke: No. No.
jarrod_dyke: I'd argue the game against Ireland was.
Grumpy Old Prop: I could see them winning this game. Like, that's... Like, I mean... Because, well, first off, it's it's the the combination of...
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Italy are getting better. Obviously, we saw that. Although, again, as has been pointed out many times, Italy beat England, but that was not Italy's best performance of the Six Nations.
Grumpy Old Prop: And... Like, Wales... Wales are just, yeah, I would do.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. Totally possible.
Grumpy Old Prop: Or the game against Scotland was pretty good too.
jarrod_dyke: And then we'll see.
Grumpy Old Prop: I really liked the way they played against Scotland.
jarrod_dyke: I mean, Reese carries obviously coming into coming back into the form that he is you know he's got three tries and three games plus the ah world.
Grumpy Old Prop: um
Grumpy Old Prop: And like they could, the same thing is with Ireland. They could just decide, you know, and again, the Wales being jammy, they could just decide we're going to, you know, make sure Italy can't do what they want to do.
jarrod_dyke: Do they scored last week?
jarrod_dyke: hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: And then we'll see from there.
jarrod_dyke: but
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: It'll be from the other county and next next time he tells the story.
Grumpy Old Prop: ah I saw, I saw a tick tock today from the whale from whales rugby. I think it was whales. You that are six nations where it was, uh, they're, they're interviewing Reese Carrey or whatever.
Grumpy Old Prop: He's taking pictures and they're like, okay give us, give us your try celebration. And he's like, I don't score tries. You gotta, gotta score to celebrate.
jarrod_dyke: he did Yeah, I mean, he it wasn't short.
Grumpy Old Prop: and then it was backed up by all of his tries from six nations, including the, obviously the, that, that I think it was 70 meters if I'm not mistaken.
jarrod_dyke: It wasn't short, certainly not by those standards.
Grumpy Old Prop: of Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, he did. But so there's that, um,
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. If you talk, you know, it's the the the prop conversion, prop meter conversions.
jarrod_dyke: they're getting, they're kind of getting the hint that beard shouldn't be involved in this team at all.
Grumpy Old Prop: You know, even that I was like, I was trying to be generous and I was it was about a 25 meter try.
jarrod_dyke: Um, uh, man and, and, um, and both on both played really well last week.
Grumpy Old Prop: And then you look at it and it was almost 40 meters.
jarrod_dyke: And, and I've, I kind of liked what was going on with man, uh, in the fall and it's, he's actually carried it over quite well.
Grumpy Old Prop: he He was, he was close to the 10 meter line. Right.
jarrod_dyke: Um, so I, I, I like what's going on with that.
Grumpy Old Prop: So no, yeah i don't think he even needs to embellish, just say he was he was close to halfway and
jarrod_dyke: Uh, Yeah, and then they they they got to live with the mistakes for Dan Edwards.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
jarrod_dyke: That's just how it is. Not overly in love with their midfield, but I do like a lot of what's going on in that back three.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
jarrod_dyke: I really do. There's a hit load of talent, and all you have to do is find ways to get them the ball in hand, and good things will happen.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm. who
jarrod_dyke: Oh, yeah. I was more thinking about Reece Dammit and me and than Blair Murray and those likes and even Hamer Webb.
jarrod_dyke: Oh, Hathaway.
Grumpy Old Prop: hey well
jarrod_dyke: think he's hurt. I think he's hurt.
Grumpy Old Prop: ah you
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, he's had very little game time there too, yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: i i keep that di
Grumpy Old Prop: I could do without Josh Adams.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yes. And who who's the yeah who's the who's the fellow from Gloucester that I'm blanking on? um I know they have Hathaway. I don't know if he's hurt or if they're he's just out of favor at the moment.
jarrod_dyke: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: um ah Yeah, he hasn't even been playing for Gloucester. um Right. So you had him and you had Llewellyn coming back at some point too, or coming in at some point.
jarrod_dyke: What
Grumpy Old Prop: um There's a good future there. there's there's There's a lot to, well, a decent amount to like about that whale side.
jarrod_dyke: is
Grumpy Old Prop: um Yeah, they like but again, going back to the Stain... the stain
jarrod_dyke: Totally.
Grumpy Old Prop: discussion like get these guys time just let them let them play a little bit take the lumps now yeah you're kind of you're you're absolutely seeding this world cup but that was already in the cards anyway um figure out what you want to be for the next world cup start it now get your guys you know get these young guys playing you know get atoms out of there when you whenever you can as soon as you can um and and yeah take the lumps but there's something there's something to build towards
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, I agree. Agree, agree.
jarrod_dyke: Ziani. I'm
jarrod_dyke: playing them both. Yep.
jarrod_dyke: Steb Negri was the guy that came to mind for me on that.
Grumpy Old Prop: And same thing, look at look and at that end, look at Italy.
jarrod_dyke: Respect, but no.
Grumpy Old Prop: You know, their opponents, like the Canone brothers. You know, we we talked about Lamaro and
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, I wish he had played a little bit there too. Agree.
Grumpy Old Prop: um Giuliani. and And I was like, yeah, play them, play them, play them. and And yes, they're doing that. And it's working.
jarrod_dyke: Oh, God.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like you don't, you know, you don't need the the um the rough and tumble types that you once tried to.
jarrod_dyke: think he fell out a favor or he's hurt. and I can't remember which one, honestly.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: I wish I had the ah truth later point.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yes. You don't need the Negri type. And I fucking... Right. At lock. Yes. But...
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, fell.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. But not at not at six. Go with the mobile pack. their their Their centers are ridiculous.
jarrod_dyke: Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: And their back three can can get it done too. Although Pani What happened to Padovani? Did he... Did he you die? Okay. Okay.
Grumpy Old Prop: i I don't mean to joke about death.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's not the right time, but at the same time, like weird, he just disappeared.
jarrod_dyke: And don't forget, there's a guy that didn't get to play at all this this tournament, Todaro.
Grumpy Old Prop: He was a mate like him and. um
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. Won't see him the rest of the year, likely.
Grumpy Old Prop: And Capozo came on at the same time and both looked amazing and the Cope Pozo is kind of, you know, he's been there, he's plateaued a bit, but he's still there.
jarrod_dyke: so So there is that as well.
Grumpy Old Prop: um But actually, even that back three of Capozo at 15 and.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, Fisketti brings it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Ioani
jarrod_dyke: I like him a lot. I really do.
Grumpy Old Prop: and Lina on the wing, that's that's I'll take that.
jarrod_dyke: So there's there's goods, you know, there're and they've yeah like you alluded to, they've they've phased certain guys out and they're ah they're giving certain other guys time and it's it's not up it's not rocket science.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, him too. Fuck, when he's healthy again. Yeah. They got, yeah, they got, there's a lot looking up there.
jarrod_dyke: could be And it could be three.
Grumpy Old Prop: And that, you know, that's that that that front row is looking good too.
jarrod_dyke: So we'll see. They certainly have a shot at didn doing the thing here, unfortunately.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm. yeah
jarrod_dyke: So here's the thing. The wild thing is, if Wales were so to somehow flip this ah point differential over England and England were to get nothing out of their game in Paris, England would finish with a wooden spoon.
Grumpy Old Prop: and And the thing is, they've still won two games. It
jarrod_dyke: That is just, wow. wawa Wow, wow, wow.
Grumpy Old Prop: could be three. Mm-hmm.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. I mean, let's kick on to Paris. Why not? France... so france They have won every once in a while, and last week was it.
jarrod_dyke: mike It was kind of meh against Italy, but because they're so talented and they're and they're just so good, and their and their ability level is far and away much better than Italy, they steamrolled them anyway.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: I know a well well-earned spoonage it would be.
jarrod_dyke: Scotland-France game, yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: Well, so this is, to me, this interesting thing with, with, with this game that I'm, I've got on ah and the the Scotland France game.
jarrod_dyke: In the USA, yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um, that like Scotland, they didn't play. They certainly didn't play a conservative style. Like they play to keep ball, like the style that they've been really working towards. I saw a stat afterwards that was saying that, um, Glasgow and Edinburgh are the, like the two teams that, um,
Grumpy Old Prop: do their most to keep ball in hand, keep all alive, keep, keep playing. um and And I think they're, they're leading the URC and offloads and shit. And like, that's bleeding over into their national team, which is, that's what you want. That's, you know, this is what rugby is now.
Grumpy Old Prop: This is, it's a fast paced.
jarrod_dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: We want to, to, to attack space ball in hand. None of this
jarrod_dyke: and they have the And they have the bodies and the ability to ah contend with teams like that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Aimless kicking. When they kick, it's for a purpose. It's because we have exhausted the the amount of pressure that we can put on this team with ball in hand.
jarrod_dyke: um
Grumpy Old Prop: So now we're going to put it down their throats like you know and and change field position.
jarrod_dyke: Stane played, was doing well in the air. Kinghorn, we know he's a he's quite a master up there.
Grumpy Old Prop: And we're not really looking to to gain possession down the field.
jarrod_dyke: ah Graham, for his size, always seems to hang out up there and and and at least compete, if not win.
Grumpy Old Prop: We're looking to just change field position and we'll play down there.
jarrod_dyke: So he's they're they're prepared for games teams like that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Or we're chipping ahead to see if we can chase, you know, like a little little literal chip and chase, not a high ball and chase, a chip and chase, proper chip and chase.
jarrod_dyke: Do they always succeed in those? No. but they are prepared to compete in those areas. And then when they when the success does come and yeah the other teams screwed up somehow as well, they they will find ways to say, where okay, cool, you did your thing, our turn.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: We're going to take the ball in hand and jam it at you, and then we'll spin it wide and let our magician at 10 do his thing.
Grumpy Old Prop: No. Mm-hmm.
jarrod_dyke: And if you can stop us, great.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
jarrod_dyke: If you can't, well, guess what? We're going to make life hard on you. And and they've done they've done that. every game this doesn't six nations bar the Italy game and but that was as you alluded to that was only the weather so that was really it which is it
jarrod_dyke: oh the one that went behind them all yep yep work of art
Grumpy Old Prop: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: That Stein line that he ran. i This is my first time seeing this early in the game. Oh. off Off the line out.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, what a line. Like that, that's, and that's like, you can have a defense set, you can, you can do what you can, you know, but if, if they run a move like that, they make it look like it's going to be a mall and they, they cut back, oh, inside the second man, not even, you know, not even just off inside the first man, but inside the second man too.
jarrod_dyke: Oh, do not try and overpower that team. No way. That's the worst thing you can do.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Excellent angle.
jarrod_dyke: They're going to to overpower them. that Their lineup that just put out tells me that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Nobody could see it until it's too late, until he's already behind you.
jarrod_dyke: Yep. Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: And DuPont's waving an air. Like, yeah, that's the thing. Like, again, know, this is like allegedly about France, but like, that's how you beat France. That's how you do it. You don't try to overpower them. You don't try to, you know, play a different game.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, just play and don't highball them. Like that's, that's why, you know, England's going to get fucking shit housed this week. they're going they're going to overpower them and they're going to try to kick high balls again.
Grumpy Old Prop: And, and France are just better at it.
jarrod_dyke: No. Don't do that.
Grumpy Old Prop: And like, they're like, that's the thing.
jarrod_dyke: Don't do that. probably All the time.
Grumpy Old Prop: France live for open, broken play in attack and defense. And you're going to, you're putting them, it's that same thing, you know, we used to talk about with South Africa and we only haven't in a while because we they haven't really been playing.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um,
Grumpy Old Prop: is that like, you know, they, they goad people into playing a certain way and it's like, well, don't do that. And then you can beat them. And it's like, that's why that, that's why England can beat New Zealand because New Zealand's like, what the fuck is this man?
jarrod_dyke: No.
Grumpy Old Prop: Just play rugby. They get frustrated and they get angry and then they, they lose their heads. France are like, okay, you want to play that game? We will play that game and we will win. Like,
Grumpy Old Prop: and Like you can't, you it's just not gonna work. And you play that way against South Africa and they're like, yeah, fuck you. We'll just, we'll we'll still play our game. Like, that's fine. We can, we're comfortable.
jarrod_dyke: They commit more to that than the Open Rugby, I can tell you that much.
Grumpy Old Prop: That doesn't change what we want to do. the Same thing with France, just two different ways of wanting to do. And like, that's the thing, like England are like that. that's what got England so frustrated this last week was that they were trying to do two different things.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: and need They didn't really commit to playing open rugby and they didn't commit to the highball, aimless highball, which is there the only really thing they can do.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. It's, you know, it's,
jarrod_dyke: which quite frankly shouldn't be enough to say Borthwick's job.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. But they got caught between, they got caught a little bit between two minds and like, so they put out this very similar lineup.
jarrod_dyke: It shouldn't be. And don't know if some dumb fuck's been calling for his job for the last couple of years, but
Grumpy Old Prop: So what's going happen? Is it going to be similar to that? And France are just going to fucking tonk them.
jarrod_dyke: this is This is one window earlier than when they sacked Eddie.
Grumpy Old Prop: Not to, you know spoiler alert for the pick them, but
jarrod_dyke: This is one window earlier than when they sacked Eddie. This is actually two, if you count the summer.
Grumpy Old Prop: England might do okay. They might keep it tight. But...
jarrod_dyke: So it would give the next guy more time.
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean...
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: At this point, do you do you just ride it out through the World Cup? Because what are you to You're a year out now. what what What's... That's fair.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, that's fair.
jarrod_dyke: They value shithousery, and that's why those guys aren't in the team.
Grumpy Old Prop: And they do it. They have the players. But here's the thing. It's too late now because England's two best fla ah flankers are going to France.
jarrod_dyke: Two of them, at least.
jarrod_dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like the players that they should be selecting, it should be Willis, Willis, Earl. And now you've lost that. Like if if they could have Willis, Willis, Earl with Pollock off the bench. Fuck. That's a squad if they're playing real rugby.
Grumpy Old Prop: um But
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, he's been, well, they they haven't given him the space.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. And that's the. Yeah. To yeah. And Earl, but they've turned Earl into a bit of a shit house. He used to be. He's always been that, you know, a little goater and he's been a little bit of a you know, a little celebrate knock ons and shit.
Grumpy Old Prop: Whatever. That's fun. but like Like that part I actually like. But. I can't remember the last time Earl really went for a run And that used to be his bread and butter.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, but it's not like Italy didn't have yellows too, so, you know.
Grumpy Old Prop: That used to be his thing. um And at Toji, finally, we saw we saw flashes of it this past week. ah You know, he's he's winning turnovers.
jarrod_dyke: Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: He's trying, yeah, the yellow card. he he He was trying something. And he was something that's worked for him is it holds his entire career. And he got it wrong. And yeah, you get a yellow for that.
Grumpy Old Prop: You know, yeah the cost of doing business kind of thing. I don't i don't blame him for that so much.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um, but like, they don't have anybody who, yeah, exactly. Like they had opportunities and they just pissed them away. And I will say that like when I, that there was no clear evidence of like got caught between two minds of, um,
Grumpy Old Prop: Finn Smith, they're on the five meter line, get a penalty and Finn Smith wants to go for the corner and just say, fuck them, let's get a try. And Mauro just screams at him. No, we're taking the fucking points. Like you get the T stop, stop contradicting me.
jarrod_dyke: It is.
Grumpy Old Prop: This is what we're doing. And it's like Mauro is, is, is under pressure from both sides at this point because Finn Smith knows, Hey, this is how we, this is how we play winning rugby at Northampton.
jarrod_dyke: No.
jarrod_dyke: Yep. Yeah, it's been the same story for England, really, but for Borthwick especially.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, don't you know this shit? And
jarrod_dyke: And it's not...
Grumpy Old Prop: Maro's like, no, this is how we play as England rugby. We kick the three.
jarrod_dyke: No.
Grumpy Old Prop: And it's like, but you have two team, you know, two conflicting styles there. And that's, that's on Bortho. That's a hundred percent on Bortho. You're putting your captain, putting your captain against your, your young 10.
jarrod_dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: Cause that's what that's, that's Bortho doing that. That's not Maro doing anything other than trying to do what Bortho wants.
Grumpy Old Prop: And that's, yeah, right.
jarrod_dyke: They were not good last year.
Grumpy Old Prop: And that's not, yeah, that's nothing new for England.
jarrod_dyke: And the reason there's a reason Razor Robertson's not in the role anymore.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's not, you know, it's not like this is something that just happened on their board. Like they just love the three. They're fucking in love with taking three points rather than, you know, scoring tries and winning games. um And I've seen a lot of the, well, with the 12, the 12 win, 12 game win streak.
jarrod_dyke: This is a lot. And in that game, i will say in a way, England got a little lucky.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, was that nothing?
jarrod_dyke: Not completely, and I'm not saying this is a toll yet, but Freddie Stewart going out and Marcus Smith coming in made a difference.
Grumpy Old Prop: And I'm like, you know, I'm looking at who they played. And yeah, you beat New Zealand, but are New Zealand that good anymore? i don't know.
jarrod_dyke: Like, Marcus was a problem for New Zealand.
Grumpy Old Prop: And.
jarrod_dyke: And Freddie just doesn't have that same attack.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. And so it's like at that 12 game win streak is like Joe Biden's presidency.
jarrod_dyke: And i don't think the result's the same. Do they win?
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, yeah, we all acknowledge it happened, but it didn't really mean anything.
jarrod_dyke: Maybe, maybe not. I think it's more of a 50-50 than it turned into. So, there's that. um Yeah, and they... and I mean, they went to... the
jarrod_dyke: yeah
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: hmm.
jarrod_dyke: um And did they play the summer of Argentina down there? I think.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yes. Yep.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, it's definitely a change team. to
jarrod_dyke: so ten the The talent level of ah of an England change team and the talent level Argentinian change team is very different.
Grumpy Old Prop: but Also, Elliot Daly, they're going to they're going to eat him alive. Friends are going to just eat him alive. Like he's a snail.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, once you start digging into player 29, player 30, player 31, it's tough for them.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, Argentina. And it was kind of ah like a half like it was a change team. Kind of. I mean, not that it wasn't a change team for for England, but like.
jarrod_dyke: Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's a good squad.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yes, because Argentina have a very good 23, but it's like once you get out of that, it gets a little dicey.
jarrod_dyke: No.
jarrod_dyke: Nope.
Grumpy Old Prop: And.
jarrod_dyke: No. No.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. And really like, right. And you actually even look at those teams that England put down there. And a lot of them are the guys are guys that are playing now. It's not like they were they had that many guys away.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: mean, Tom Curry was away.
jarrod_dyke: Agreed.
Grumpy Old Prop: that You know, Ben Earl. Okay, Ben Earl. Mario Toji away. Yes, I think those guys have an impact.
jarrod_dyke: All right. ah Enough of that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Jamie George. Luke Cowendickey making it. No, that didn't fucking matter.
jarrod_dyke: so let's So we haven't had a chance to talk with at all about the Supers...
Grumpy Old Prop: Tom Curry. No, that didn't fucking matter. Elliot Daly. No, that didn't fucking matter.
jarrod_dyke: The Super Rugby's. So where let's dive into this thing.
Grumpy Old Prop: So, yeah, like they they were still putting on a pretty good team, you know, aside from not really having a 10.
jarrod_dyke: um
jarrod_dyke: I mean, wasn't great this weekend. um
Grumpy Old Prop: um
jarrod_dyke: Wasn't quite the the result they wanted for this weekend, the Brumbies, but wow, like they've had a couple of nice results for themselves the last two weeks prior.
Grumpy Old Prop: But yeah.
jarrod_dyke: Gotta be said, like, yeah, beat the Blues at home the death and they beat the Crusaders in New Zealand.
Grumpy Old Prop: Not at all.
jarrod_dyke: Like, you better stand up. And they don't need they're not even starting Tain Ed Bed. Like, maybe when we wake up tomorrow, it's a different story. But like, wow.
jarrod_dyke: Wow. that's ah That says a lot right there.
Grumpy Old Prop: he
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. That's.
jarrod_dyke: yeah
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: it does and the brumbies are they like they're they they may be coming back to form and that's that's excellent for uh super rugby and then the rugby world at large
Grumpy Old Prop: um it's good to see and it's and especially it's good to see australian rugby not taking a complete shit um
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. Charlie Cale is a good player.
Grumpy Old Prop: you know They've got three teams they've got three three teams with one loss each.
jarrod_dyke: Yep. Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: Taz and Reds have only played three games.
jarrod_dyke: Now, it'll be interesting to see when they get when they dig into Chiefs and Canes and ah also so Highlanders.
Grumpy Old Prop: Brumbies have played every match so but they haven't had their bye week. So they've got two teams that have played a bye week. But Reds and Taz look good. And that'll be ah that'll be a fucking game too.
jarrod_dyke: um
Grumpy Old Prop: But we'll get there.
jarrod_dyke: But yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens.
Grumpy Old Prop: um
jarrod_dyke: the
Grumpy Old Prop: But yeah, Brumbies are are are looking tough.
jarrod_dyke: No, I'm not either.
Grumpy Old Prop: And I i i support that.
jarrod_dyke: I'm not either. They they didn't play poor super poorly this past weekend. They obviously won.
Grumpy Old Prop: And that was, it yeah, the Brumbies won losses to the Reds.
jarrod_dyke: um for sir meh
Grumpy Old Prop: So it's like they're they're they're not losing outside of the outside the family.
jarrod_dyke: i mean they listen they they beat crusaders week one that was a huge result you know that that that meant a lot i i will say might as well just dig into the hounders since we're on them um that cam miller has played so well for them they're they're young 10 like
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm still not sold on the Highlanders. Not yet.
jarrod_dyke: Could we see ah eventual all-black here?
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean, they've been tough.
jarrod_dyke: I'd say so. like he's
Grumpy Old Prop: i'm not gonna i'm not I'm not counting them out.
jarrod_dyke: He's been very poised. He's been very calm under under pressure.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's just I want to see.
jarrod_dyke: young He obviously hit the big kick to to beat the Crusaders, and that took some clangers.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, like they did. It was.
jarrod_dyke: he's He has the tools that it requires to play international rugby. He's obviously got a host of players in front of him, but I'd say he's got the ages on his side, so he probably will see opportunities in the black shirt.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, I agree.
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean.
jarrod_dyke: Barrett's 34.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm
jarrod_dyke: He's not a pup. He's probably, honestly, after after the World Cup, I think he's out.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm
jarrod_dyke: think he's gone.
jarrod_dyke: Yep.
jarrod_dyke: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: Put him on the squad, at least.
jarrod_dyke: Moulinka should be back.
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean, yeah, he's not he's not going to start as long as as long as Barrett and, unfortunately, DMACC are around. He's not going to start, but like not yet, anyway.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's true.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's true.
Grumpy Old Prop: Exactly. that's yeah so that's i'm i'm eyeing Everything right now, I'm eyeing towards the World Cup since we're in that that last little lead-up to it. um
Grumpy Old Prop: like Barrett's probably your 10, unless Mawanga is back. um So, yeah. In that case, maybe Barrett's your 15, you have Will Jordan at wing, or I don't know what you do.
jarrod_dyke: yeah i'd I'd say give them some time. They got this tour to South Africa. I'd say possibly give him some time in that, but then they have the the nation's league.
Grumpy Old Prop: um But you got to have all those guys on the field.
jarrod_dyke: That's a possibility as well to give him some time as well.
Grumpy Old Prop: and
jarrod_dyke: So there's opportunities where he can get some time without, you know, totally damaging his confidence by, you know, by any means.
Grumpy Old Prop: but but Miller deserves a shot. He should be in that squad. certainly Certainly to get a feel for it because it's one of those like, dude, we we need someone for 31 and we need someone who who's been there and and seen it and i don't know who else they got.
jarrod_dyke: So I, I think if, um, I think if Dave Rennie is smart, by the way, Dave Rennie, what a hire, I am a huge fan of that.
Grumpy Old Prop: So yeah, he's going to be on there.
jarrod_dyke: I, I don't know if if you happen to see the line from Quaid Cooper, but him getting sacked in favor of Eddie was obviously one of the biggest mistakes Australia made, bar none, um with very few exceptions.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
jarrod_dyke: And Quaid's like, yeah, this is biting us in the ass now because we should never have let him go.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
jarrod_dyke: he had so many good things going. on a such a great rugby person. It was so shocking when they decided that they wanted to sack him. And I, I totally agreed at the time.
jarrod_dyke: Now Schmidt kind of righted the ship a little bit and he's done a lot of good work and lead the groundwork for, uh, I believe it's less kiss coming in now after this, uh, super rugby season's over.
Grumpy Old Prop: I did not see.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: But yeah, I, I think they were spoiled for choice. All blacks with Dave, Renny and Jamie Joseph possibly vying to get into that role. Um,
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
jarrod_dyke: I feel bad for Robertson. He almost didn't really get comfortable, ever get comfortable in the role.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
jarrod_dyke: And, with and from all reports, wasn't himself while he was coaching this team, which is unfortunate. You know, I think the pressure got to him, honestly, sadly.
jarrod_dyke: That's the, and I, and I hate to like throw that bullet out there on people. Cause that's, that sucks.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
jarrod_dyke: That's a shitty one to throw out there. But I, I think with the reports that are coming in, I think that's exactly what happened, unfortunately, and that sucks. You know, I like the guy. I think he's still going to be, think wherever he lands, the team's be very lucky to have him.
Grumpy Old Prop: he
jarrod_dyke: um But yeah, like Dave, runningney good for you.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, that's the weird thing. like Yeah, that is sad because like he's he's just yeah. like
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, probably.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, right.
Grumpy Old Prop: Saracens are still looking for a coach allegedly because Andy Farrell is not the man.
jarrod_dyke: Not wrong. Excuse me
Grumpy Old Prop: so Although i i I did want to to make mention of that because it was hilarious that their announcement of we are not saying anything, you know we are not in talk with Andy Farrell included a picture of of Andy Farrell and Owen Farrell holding the Champions Cup trophy.
jarrod_dyke: me. It's a different beast.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's like ah the image that's going along with our announcement is raising more questions about the announcement than the announcement is answering.
jarrod_dyke: it's a different It's a different beast.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like
Grumpy Old Prop: But um yeah, Razor will end up somewhere and and that's good. and And maybe this is one of those, you know, he needs to be there and know what it's like, which is weird because he's done so well at the club level, but and obviously it's a step up.
jarrod_dyke: Mm-hmm.
jarrod_dyke: Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's a, it's a complete different level for player and coach. And so you mean you need, yeah, you need to to get that experience.
jarrod_dyke: Breaks the curse.
Grumpy Old Prop: And then like, I remember um you'll, you might appreciate this. I didn't at the time, but I do now. um when Terry Francona, when he was hired by the Red Sox, um the former Phillies manager, and he shit the bed in Philly.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, sometimes you do. Sometimes you do. um Yeah. so Anyway.
Grumpy Old Prop: And when he was hired by the Red Sox, he was like, this is you know I kind of got a mulligan there.
jarrod_dyke: Anyway, we're going to digress. um rever
Grumpy Old Prop: like I needed to learn things. I needed to see it.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, we got in there.
Grumpy Old Prop: like That was a practice run for this.
jarrod_dyke: um But yeah, and i just back to the Highlanders real quick, and then we'll move on.
Grumpy Old Prop: And then he goes on and wins the World Series with the Rays Cris for the Red Sox.
jarrod_dyke: um The back three that they have, that is you that is generally their starting.
Grumpy Old Prop: So it's like, this is a like yeah, you need you need that.
jarrod_dyke: Honestly, their most of their back, honestly, is like, ooh, I love it. Sean O'Lo kind of meh.
Grumpy Old Prop: failure sometimes succeed
jarrod_dyke: But the rest of it, Tava Tava Naubele, Has been amazing. um Ratamai Tavukinikin's awesome.
Grumpy Old Prop: anyway we we got way off topic back to the all that to say yeah cam miller better be on the squad ah forine all right
jarrod_dyke: Nareki, you know, kind of he's he's a little injury-prone, but while he's healthy, forget it he's He's definitely someone you want out there. And Tangy Tao making the move over here has been, or not move, but sophomore slump is not a thing for him, ah clearly, because he he's put his hand back up and said, ha ha, so anybody that thought this wasn't going to be a thing, i am a thing. Deal with it.
jarrod_dyke: So, i you know great things.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Not you,
jarrod_dyke: They lack depth, which is the thing that concerns me the most. um But, you know, they're certainly their but their backline is the danger for for me with the exception of one or two guys otherwise.
jarrod_dyke: um But, yeah, I like a of what's going on with them. So I think it'll still be kind of a disappointing-ish year for them.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
jarrod_dyke: But I think there's there you cannot sleep on them because that backline will destroy you.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
jarrod_dyke: by no means. oh
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: How about your your chefs? Right.
jarrod_dyke: Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: I don't hate it. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
jarrod_dyke: Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: No.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, we'll see.
Grumpy Old Prop: um'm I'm liking what I'm seeing. if they're they're back to they're They're doing the things that they've been doing. um you know Mackenzie was out for a little bit with with the on on paternity paternity leave.
Grumpy Old Prop: um And he's come back and done obviously very well.
jarrod_dyke: yeah we'll see
Grumpy Old Prop: Just just slotted right back in there. Had to got a very good week. And now he gets a bye. um But they're they're looking tough.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, we'll see.
Grumpy Old Prop: They're looking tough.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: They're not going to be an easy out at any point. there're I'm kind of... I'm really seeing, like, we'll see what happens with Taz Reds.
jarrod_dyke: I thought um Jacob played to talk about guys that potentially wear the black shirt in the future.
Grumpy Old Prop: I think Blues are a little bit of an aberration, but I really think it's Brumby's, Hurricanes Chiefs for, whereas at the moment, for for the the real, like, that's my, I mean, they're up at the top tier, but there's ah those are my top clubs for for the potential championship.
jarrod_dyke: I thought Jacob but were performed quite well in the first three weeks without McKenzie. And um I think that last one was kind of ah one that got away from him a little bit. But you need those moments for a guy his age in order for him to do the growing up that's required so he can thrive in those moments later on in his career.
Grumpy Old Prop: I think Chiefs, and the Chiefs have, the you know, going back to what you said about the Highlanders, Chiefs have fucking depth out the ass.
jarrod_dyke: Oh, for sure.
jarrod_dyke: oh for sure
Grumpy Old Prop: but yeah
Grumpy Old Prop: e
jarrod_dyke: Narawa or whoever.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, i'm still I'm still high on him in the for the future. i want to see more dynamic play from him. He's very good he's getting he's getting quite good at the the distribution and it's it's it's tough with the Chiefs because, you know,
Grumpy Old Prop: literally everybody outside of the 10 is a fucking threat so you know yeah you don't want Jacob check um being the one running the ball because you want it to be Tapia or Rona or any of the other yeah where yeah um
jarrod_dyke: um you made me do it too. Damn it. You freaking spread in the qualifier over here. Leroy Carter. There we go. We got there. ah
Grumpy Old Prop: there's just too many options so yeah and shit I'm blanking on um the young that young winger Yeah,
jarrod_dyke: Oh yeah, the young kid. That was like his first touch of the game and he scored.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah exactly. I'm having a complete brain fart.
jarrod_dyke: Like, okay, there goes that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Leroy Carter. Yes. Leroy Carter. um and And you can say like all these guys have just been guys. You can get it done. um Fuck.
Grumpy Old Prop: Even this past week, you look at them at 11, 12, 13, 14, 15. All of them had at least one try and Carter had three.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, hopefully you can get some learning experience with that though too. He needs be able to get into space.
Grumpy Old Prop: like that's And the 23 had one as well.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: so like
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, Kyle Brown.
jarrod_dyke: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: um ye so Yeah, they got some players, and and it's going to be a lot of fun for the future.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. um Before we get too dark, while we love to shit on ah television platforms and and broadcasting platforms here,
Grumpy Old Prop: and like Yeah, you don't you don't need Jake home running the ball, but that's that's good.
jarrod_dyke: Love that this is on Rugby Pass TV, and there's been very little wrong with it, considering that it's a free service that says a lot.
Grumpy Old Prop: he He can be that distributor and get guys you know where they need to be.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
jarrod_dyke: you know, there were more fuck-ups with our paid a lot of our paid services than there have been with Rugby Pass TV, it has to be said.
Grumpy Old Prop: And it's easy when you're going against, well, although that was McKenzie coming back against Moana Pacifica, but you're still looking strong.
jarrod_dyke: So, i you know, I love this. I hope more more leagues get moved on to it, honestly, because it just makes it more accessible. Like, i I start the high school team. The first thing I said was Rugby Pass TV. Go watch Super Rugby. It's for free and it's good stuff. Have fun.
jarrod_dyke: And so I hope but most of the kids have turned it on.
Grumpy Old Prop: It is.
jarrod_dyke: um But, yeah, it's just a nice resource to have. um You did allude to the blue, so let's go there. um Big win for them this past weekend.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
jarrod_dyke: making life Making life hard on the Crusaders. Clark doing his thing.
Grumpy Old Prop: who
jarrod_dyke: He can play. i i mean, i have concerns about their midfield and I have concerns about their, their engine room. But other than that, they they do. I mean, there's a lot of great things and Finley Christie's not that good, but you know,
Grumpy Old Prop: you can play a little bit um that's good to see yes
jarrod_dyke: yeah Yeah, there they do have problems. yeah um i think there're I think Barrett and Clark might cover up for a lot of it, honestly.
Grumpy Old Prop: well mean i like beer and dairy a lot actually so um but it really i i have more issues with their back their back row And the centers, as you said.
Grumpy Old Prop: And the fact and basically they're back three outside of Caleb Clark. But other than that, things are all right there. Their front row not terrible.
Grumpy Old Prop: They do. And that's the thing, like they have enough talent and that's that's, you know, especially for this past weekend.
jarrod_dyke: Nope.
Grumpy Old Prop: They had the talent to overcome you know the little bit of the you know the um the inexperience of the Hotham-Rehanna battery and the fact that
jarrod_dyke: They just don't know how to do it.
Grumpy Old Prop: hard they they know Will Jordan wasn't playing, so there was really not much. Severi Reis is not... Has not this year been what he once was?
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. No, I...
Grumpy Old Prop: um seeing for Same for Faiangunuku, who's still struggling.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: there's There's something about that 13 shirt for Crusaders where you can put these excellent guys in there and they just can't do anything.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: um i get Faiangunuku back out to the wing as soon as you can if you really want to do anything. And yeah, go with you know Havili and McLeod and whatever for your for your centers if you really don't want him to do anything.
jarrod_dyke: No, definitely not. So we'll see. We'll see where they from where they finish.
Grumpy Old Prop: Get Faiangunuku out of there and and have him on the wing.
jarrod_dyke: Big win, obviously, this past weekend. But, yeah, definitely have let themselves down a little bit with some of their performances as well.
Grumpy Old Prop: I think that's enough. But the the Blues have enough to overcome that is really where we are. Like, Satutu isn't, you Papali Satutu, I'm not really that impressed this year so far.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Segnar's been okay.
Grumpy Old Prop: no The front row is still solid, but not splashy.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. If I told you... that the Crusaders were going to be on five points after four weeks, though. Would you believe me?
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. that's Especially after last year.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
jarrod_dyke: And i was just, like I mean, looking at the team, i i like George Bell started off really well this year, obviously.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yes, that's why i'm that's why I'm not really in. You know they're they're in still got to see more, I guess.
jarrod_dyke: um
Grumpy Old Prop: I don't really got to see it. I don't know that I'm going to see it.
jarrod_dyke: here Taylor's the the Wiley veteran in there.
Grumpy Old Prop: But they're also a team that can play gritty if they need to and win.
jarrod_dyke: um Yeah, their back three concerns me a little bit with Fiocchi, and as you were alluded to, Reese is not quite...
Grumpy Old Prop: So who knows?
jarrod_dyke: Ben himself there. um
Grumpy Old Prop: I'd slap you in the face.
jarrod_dyke: ah David Avili has actually surprised me with the way he's played. He's played pretty solidly thus far for a guy that was kind of mad the last couple of seasons.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: So I'll give him credit. Leo Willie is him himself. So that's fine. ah But yeah, I think they have issues. You know, Tamati Williams got himself a suspension. That didn't help. um Yeah. Hotham's great.
jarrod_dyke: Rihanna and Kemera are guys that are slowly turning into very, very serviceable tens.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
jarrod_dyke: um And Hultim is obviously, like as i as I said, i but yeah one of my favorite nines in the league for sure.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yes.
jarrod_dyke: um Great stuff there. But yeah, like Fanganuku doesn't quite look like the guy we know and and not for the better. Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: And yeah, there's, you know, the, the background outside of Leo Willie, I'm the, the, the, um, second row, we'll see some, we'll see some good things coming with, um, I still like Shelfoon.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
jarrod_dyke: I think he's having a struggle to start the year, but I still like him.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah,
jarrod_dyke: Um, dumb, dumb Barrett will come back soon, soonish, uh, from his sabbatical. And then, yeah we, we, uh, a name we allude to before Liam Jack, um, Dad played for the Crusaders, Uncle played with the Crusaders, and Uncle played for the All Blacks too.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah.
jarrod_dyke: So could be someone to keep your eye on the future.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah yeah
jarrod_dyke: As far as I know, he's hurt right now. So that's probably the reason we won't see him for a bit.
jarrod_dyke: Pulling the chute.
Grumpy Old Prop: it's Okay. Right. But it is it is time to start um pulling pulling, not rip cords, but pulling but you know pushing buttons, I guess.
jarrod_dyke: No. No.
Grumpy Old Prop: see what we see
jarrod_dyke: It's usually at least two threats around the park, and they don't quite have that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, but it's like it at this point, what do you you know you you you can only last with some of these guys for so long, right? like
jarrod_dyke: no
Grumpy Old Prop: i' Sorry, I'm getting back into that that team that I'm just like, Leo Willey, there's a lot to look, but Blackadder Gardner, I'm not really, like the you can't play with just one loose forward, as we've seen you know some of the other clubs that we talk about. like You can't play without really,
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, a lot of them are, unfortunately.
Grumpy Old Prop: or Or at the very least, you need then some spicy fucking centers and they don't really have that.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, you're right. um
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, and then I guess the last team, newton key qe not the last team, KiwiB, because I guess we want to technically is, but they would prefer to be based somewhere else in Samoa or at Tonga.
Grumpy Old Prop: So something's got to give. You need somebody who can somebody in that like runner and physicality. that you know I see the the loose forwards and centers as as very similar in what they do around the world they should be doing around the park.
jarrod_dyke: um i would also prefer that as well, despite their big win down in La Tonga.
Grumpy Old Prop: And they these guys are too similar, but it's not in a good way.
jarrod_dyke: But... um
jarrod_dyke: yeah
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, they got beat pretty handily by the force. That was not a good game, I'm sure. Umaga was losing his mind about that one.
Grumpy Old Prop: I would prefer them to be good. So.
Grumpy Old Prop: But that's been it. That's been, that's like, that was almost like their, their Superbowl in a way.
jarrod_dyke: No, and to be fair, that is energy sapping to go to Fiji.
Grumpy Old Prop: and Like, and then since and then it's just been, it's not even been close.
jarrod_dyke: It really is for a lot of reasons, for a lot of reasons.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, how do you to, how are going lose to the, like get, get almost doubled up by the force at home?
jarrod_dyke: Yo, yeah, sh that was not that was not a fun game to watch, and it was not a fun game to be a fan of.
Grumpy Old Prop: i mean i
jarrod_dyke: i was like, ah yeah
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, and i i' I'll grant the the game against your your Hurricanes because they were like, yeah, we're going to do a complete change.
jarrod_dyke: yeah, you didn't need to watch more than that, I promise you.
jarrod_dyke: So there is some bright spots for Moana.
Grumpy Old Prop: I don't know that they started anybody who started to get the against the Druah.
jarrod_dyke: Like Tupacoyle, I like him a lot. I think he's going to be a little bit more svelte.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
jarrod_dyke: And that's me saying that. um
Grumpy Old Prop: As the Hurricanes then showed.
jarrod_dyke: But if if he gets just... Honestly, if he just I don't even care if he gets more svelte. Just gets a little fitter and is able to carry around the park just a little bit better.
Grumpy Old Prop: No. Yeah, i think i watched i think I watched the first half of that.
jarrod_dyke: And I mean a little bit. um We're talking margins small margins here.
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm like, I'm i'm good.
jarrod_dyke: But he is so close to really being an extremely...
Grumpy Old Prop: I don't need to watch more than that. this it's It's a, yeah, playing in a puddle.
jarrod_dyke: nightmarish number eight to play against. um You know, Bayou, okay, yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
jarrod_dyke: Hasn't played too too bad. Pellegrini's had mostly good games, but yeah not quite. A lot of free jacks, I have to say. Has a lot of free jacks.
jarrod_dyke: Simi Cipaya, Mel Santarabi.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: They matter.
jarrod_dyke: Who's the other one now? like... And they've been good. um Oh, um our guy from last year is in this team too, isn't he? um Damn it.
jarrod_dyke: I can't remember his name.
Grumpy Old Prop: I like, yeah.
jarrod_dyke: I'll think of his name in a minute, but it it doesn't matter. Oh, Hala.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
jarrod_dyke: Yes, he is in this team. Yes.
Grumpy Old Prop: Probably Malo's got to put it together, though.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. Okay. There we go. See, I knew there was three in this one.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: yeah yeah Yeah, that that guy.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Who's been good? Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: So yeah, he's so he's in the team um and this team. Joel Lamb is a name that people are chucking around. ah Yeah, played last week, but like he's he's someone I think could be one of those future-ish guys.
Grumpy Old Prop: Who's that?
jarrod_dyke: He's 23. He's
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, yeah. Yeah, he is.
jarrod_dyke: i think he's eligible to play for three national teams.
Grumpy Old Prop: Scored that awesome try on the kick against ah some shitty team.
jarrod_dyke: Let's see, Pacific Nations, who did he play for last?
Grumpy Old Prop: Chicago, right?
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, he does he actually has some caps.
Grumpy Old Prop: Hmm.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah,
Grumpy Old Prop: Hmm.
jarrod_dyke: yeah he has some caps for, looks like, Samoa.
Grumpy Old Prop: Hmm.
jarrod_dyke: So that's good news for Samoa, because that's our position for them to produce. good talent and so but that'd be nice to see um but yeah so there's lot good to like but they need more to like to say the least
jarrod_dyke: yeah it's got to start clicking soon
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. And it's it's kind of a trend with them. But again, it's still they they have they have some pieces in place. So it's just got to start clicking. And too much, as you know, you mentioned a bunch of the free jacks and all these guys coming in and it's like, you know, Lamape coming in. that There's a lot of these to these for these guys to ah learn how to play with each other, too. And that's that's been a constant with.
Grumpy Old Prop: um with Moana, there's not really been a core group. Like even Fai Laghi, who's been showing like signs of being amazing, he doesn't get enough he hasn't in the past gotten enough playing time and he's been off and on.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. um And then the the actual loss for the Kiwi team, Hurricanes. yeah Two solid wins and then one tough loss.
Grumpy Old Prop: And this year it's it's he was awesome and then it's been a struggle.
jarrod_dyke: What are you going to do?
Grumpy Old Prop: so
jarrod_dyke: What are you going to do?
Grumpy Old Prop: um But then he's been in and out of the lineup again. So it's like just just get a core group and and play with them and come what may.
jarrod_dyke: yeah, I mean, i did not expect them to turn the toss inside out the way they did.
Grumpy Old Prop: But they're struggling with that.
jarrod_dyke: But damn, okay.
Grumpy Old Prop: And that's, I think, why they're not building.
jarrod_dyke: um Man, Brett Cameron going down in that first game. and Poor fella. Poor fella. Just clawed his way back from a knee injury last year and got a little bit of time at the end.
jarrod_dyke: But man, so hurtful.
Grumpy Old Prop: that's
jarrod_dyke: And they they they won't have God free this year at all. um Ruben Love should be back sometime in the next couple rounds. Hopefully that will bring some support. Cal Markin didn't play badly in that badly in either game.
jarrod_dyke: the the i mean, the first game was just a mess.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
jarrod_dyke: That's hard that's hard to play in.
Grumpy Old Prop: that's yeah
jarrod_dyke: Plain and simple. And, know, if you're not experienced 10 in that type of stuff at this level, it's really hard to play at that. But looked good against the Taz. Came in against, you know, Moana looked good.
Grumpy Old Prop: Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
jarrod_dyke: So there's hope there for for him. I like i like a lot of what's going on with that. Yep. And then the back, you know, the backs seem to be running the show right now. And why not? There's so many good ones right now.
jarrod_dyke: It's just not mad about it.
Grumpy Old Prop: hey
jarrod_dyke: I'm really not.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: There are.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: No. is Yeah, there's a lot to love about that team. and and you know ah
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Outside of the question marks and...
jarrod_dyke: Yosei Lakai, Karifi, even Flanders has played well in his in his places, so yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: But damn. that's Again, they're the kind of the opposite of that that Highlanders team in a way, where it's like... Well, not the Highlanders, um the Crusaders team.
jarrod_dyke: And then, don't forget about the the giant Japanese international,
Grumpy Old Prop: um Where it's like...
jarrod_dyke: turns
Grumpy Old Prop: You've got backs out there and you've got loose forwards who can just, you got to watch them.
jarrod_dyke: He came in, and i think the first two lineouts he bottled, and then after that he looked great.
Grumpy Old Prop: You can't, you can't just be like, Oh, this guy's a plotter.
jarrod_dyke: I was like, okay, those are nerves. Those are nerves. It's okay.
Grumpy Old Prop: We don't, we don't have to worry about him.
jarrod_dyke: It's okay.
Grumpy Old Prop: We'll just make our tackles on him.
jarrod_dyke: So, yeah, that's it's looking good in terms of that.
Grumpy Old Prop: And that's, that's that. Nope. Mm-hmm.
jarrod_dyke: You know, I think there's goods and bads about the team for sure, but at the same time, like, if there's –
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
jarrod_dyke: It's so wild, this team. This this team could be you know end up somehow missing the playoff because things don't click.
Grumpy Old Prop: if i Right.
jarrod_dyke: or This team could be top of the pile. like is such ah It's so volatile how that how this team could finish.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yep.
jarrod_dyke: and They haven't even had Nihalo back. Nihalo's been out for a while. I think he's still missing at least another two rounds easily. um So if they get him back, half have fun.
jarrod_dyke: That tank. um Plus Ruben Love. Yeah, okay. There's lots to like about it, so we'll see how it goes. but And I think Billy Proctor's playing amazingly, by the way. like Billy Proctor is making teams realize that they can't just focus on Jordy in the midfield.
jarrod_dyke: like they They need to respect him or they will he will cook.
Grumpy Old Prop: a
jarrod_dyke: Okay.
Grumpy Old Prop: do Do you think you'd be slot? Oh, yes.
Grumpy Old Prop: e
Grumpy Old Prop: that's what I don't understand at this point at this point Jordy is not the guy who's going to cook him right he's he's he's basically he's a you know kind of a Peyton Manning little bit of a statue out there he he'll he put the ball where he needs to be but I'm not I won't you know I'd let him run on me alright cool I would not let Billy Proctor run on me I'd make sure okay look we're going to make sure you can't pass to Billy Proctor you can run Jordy
jarrod_dyke: No, I think they'll put him at fullback. They might, but his best position is 15.
Grumpy Old Prop: and And, you know, take, take what he, you know, what he can get. Cause it's not going to be a hell of a lot. But they haven't sorted that out yet.
jarrod_dyke: Morby goes to wing, Finneanofo stays at wing, and Sullivan goes to the bench.
Grumpy Old Prop: um One question I wanted to ask when, when love is, is back, do do you just slot him at 10?
jarrod_dyke: for himself problem solved problem solved Morby Morby knows what the try line is we can can still find it from from wing that's not the problem with me um yeah and then you get to figure out who who gets odd man out and honestly if Fini and Ofo and Niholo are both healthy and 100% and on their game Niholo is the better player so that means Fini and Ofo goes to the bench too so um and then we yeah we gotta we'll wrap this up real quick Rugby Australia uh
Grumpy Old Prop: Okay.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. I, well, no doubt, but I mean, you got more B back there who can do that. So it's like, do you, did do you kind of take the, the, the, you know, 80% of what love can give you with you know and then you take Morby at 100% at 15 or do you just take um okay fair it is decided
jarrod_dyke: Reds, big win this past weekend.
Grumpy Old Prop: okay fair
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, won't have Tate for most of the season. So that'll be hurtful.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Don't know. i mean, yeah. Yes. Big win. I don't, I just don't know what to expect from them.
Grumpy Old Prop: It, Yeah, it'll be hurtful, but he's still like, I mean, they're still doing all right with, um, oh shoot, Warchon has been, has been pretty damn good.
jarrod_dyke: Yep. Agreed.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um, it's nice to see Carter Gordon finally, you know, coming, like getting, getting his union legs back underneath him.
jarrod_dyke: ah Not a great result for the Taz, but they're still not a team I would go dismissing quite yet. um
Grumpy Old Prop: Um,
jarrod_dyke: had I had issues with, I had questions about loss and Creighton, but I also have had my questions mostly answered thus far in the first first three games for them, first four rounds.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, they've and they they've just got so much power there. And and especially with, you know, they they did this without Tim Ryan, who's been still excellent this year um when he's played.
Grumpy Old Prop: So again, Reds have depth.
jarrod_dyke: um Yeah, he's their 10, and i don't think there's a though i I don't see a problem with it, and I think the problem now lies in what's going on in the midfield for them, because Zouli needs to do more
Grumpy Old Prop: It's just a question of what can and can they put it all together?
jarrod_dyke: in order for Because whoever's wearing 12 right now, it doesn't matter.
Grumpy Old Prop: no, that's their...
jarrod_dyke: They're meh. So that's a problem for me. um Their pack is strong. No question about that. I think that's i think it's still a pretty good pack there.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
jarrod_dyke: So they that doesn't present any issues for me. i really think it's what's going on in that midfield. And um can Lawson Crichton grow as the season goes?
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
jarrod_dyke: think those will be the things that kind of determine how high or how low they finish.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: so um Georgia's got to figure out a way to fucking win away from home.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
jarrod_dyke: i wait Even when they're at home, they've got to win.
Grumpy Old Prop: he
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, got it pulled together.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: And then i i had hopes for the Force because then the in the pieces they had weren't bad.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. that That's they're, they're, so they're capable of great things. They just got to now do it.
jarrod_dyke: But the sum of the parts thus far, or the whole thus far, has been to say the least.
Grumpy Old Prop: We saw it last year. We saw them really push the, push the envelope now. and Okay. And they've only played three games, so they're still getting into their season.
jarrod_dyke: There is a whole, that's for sure.
Grumpy Old Prop: You know, but now that and they've had their bi-week now, so it's like, okay, you see what you've got.
jarrod_dyke: Apart from apartment Tizano. That's it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Put it together.
jarrod_dyke: And Williams. Williams. I'll give Williams credit, actually. Yeah, they've had... Jeremy Williams has pretty solid. I'll give him
Grumpy Old Prop: No, not there, but you're still the first. whole
jarrod_dyke: Did you... i played this for some of my youngsters.
Grumpy Old Prop: Who's been fantastic. um
jarrod_dyke: Did you see the try that he knocked on against milwanna
Grumpy Old Prop: They've had, they've had some other decent ones. Oh yeah, there we go.
jarrod_dyke: It was one of those, what remember when Freddie Burns knocked on against two, and lose very similar, like thought he was in took his foot off the gas, gave up a little bit on it and someone chased him down and made him knock it on.
Grumpy Old Prop: I was like, i know there's someone else. Um,
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, and theirre their two props are are pretty pretty not bad either, but that thing, props. um you know Mish had a had a pretty good week this week, but like George Bridge got to put it together.
jarrod_dyke: but but i was like, Ooh, he did.
Grumpy Old Prop: and there that back That back three is just painful.
jarrod_dyke: I think he eventually scored again, but was like, Oh, this is why you don't quit on the play. And this is why you don't assume you scored until you've died. Damn.
jarrod_dyke: Oh, silly, silly, silly.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, I didn't.
jarrod_dyke: um I know Forrest haven't had pace. That's been hurtful, and he is definitely a rock star when he's in there um and should help open up some space for other guys.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yes. Yes.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh.
jarrod_dyke: But he's been he's been quality.
Grumpy Old Prop: Can't, cannot.
jarrod_dyke: I'm not a huge fan of him, but he has been quality. So I won't i won knock that by any means whatsoever.
jarrod_dyke: All right. Pick him and then wear
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
jarrod_dyke: gtfo um
jarrod_dyke: let's let's let's let's Let's go easy first.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm.
jarrod_dyke: Let's do let's do Super Rugby.
jarrod_dyke: but
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Donaldson's been pretty good too.
jarrod_dyke: ah
Grumpy Old Prop: So, you know, I'll give him...
jarrod_dyke: Hurricane's Force.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm-hmm. All
jarrod_dyke: Hurricane's. Drew Brumbies.
Grumpy Old Prop: right.
jarrod_dyke: I'm going to go with the Brumbies.
jarrod_dyke: Oh, i I agree, but I think the Brumbies will figure it out.
Grumpy Old Prop: Let me get to my notes.
jarrod_dyke: they i I believe in what's going on with Stephen Blackham, so I'm going to go.
Grumpy Old Prop: Okay. This is actually very going to be very easy for me.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. Everyone will pay attention, for sure. Crusaders, Highlanders.
Grumpy Old Prop: Home team.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Home team.
jarrod_dyke: Reds, Taz.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: and Yeah, I just... Again, we saw with the...
jarrod_dyke: ah It'll be interesting. I won't be surprised with the to if the Taz rock up, but yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's just a wild card.
jarrod_dyke: ah Different team than played a week one for sure.
Grumpy Old Prop: This is one of those... if if if If the Brombies do it now...
jarrod_dyke: Blues Moana.
Grumpy Old Prop: Okay.
jarrod_dyke: Blues, yeah, that's not hard.
Grumpy Old Prop: Let's see.
jarrod_dyke: Okay, Super Saturday.
Grumpy Old Prop: But... Yeah. Yeah. yeah
jarrod_dyke: Ireland, Scotland to start us off with a big one.
Grumpy Old Prop: Go with the home team. I still think Crusaders pull it out.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, I am too.
Grumpy Old Prop: Home team.
jarrod_dyke: This will be a better team too, unfortunately for them. So that's the bad news.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
jarrod_dyke: Wales, Italy.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yes.
jarrod_dyke: I am too.
Grumpy Old Prop: Shocking home team.
jarrod_dyke: I am too. It'll be, i hope they respond better than what people think because they just have, I said a huge one against England and hopefully there's not that hangover. um i mean, even if there is just give it to Menoncello and let him do his thing, but you know,
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm going Ireland.
Grumpy Old Prop: we've We've seen Scotland come off a big win and have have that little hangover and you know smell themselves a little bit. and Yeah. Yep.
jarrod_dyke: h
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm going in Italy.
Grumpy Old Prop: But if it's
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. Might start to feel like the wheels are going to come off a little bit.
Grumpy Old Prop: like i I don't want to put it on the first 20 minutes because it could take longer than that.
jarrod_dyke: Okay. France, England.
Grumpy Old Prop: But um if Italy get out the get out the gates running and if they they score two and in the first 20 or even two scores, like even if it's 10 points, that's that's it.
jarrod_dyke: France, yeah. And a bonus, Boethor gets sacked. Okay.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, that says a lot right there.
Grumpy Old Prop: Or even eight points, I think, would be enough to get Wales being like, okay, here we go again.
jarrod_dyke: It says a lot right there. ah All right, that's that. We did it, guys. We're back.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: um We made it. We do appreciate you guys that for listening to us and letting us babble to you for a little bit.
Grumpy Old Prop: France.
jarrod_dyke: Keep your eyes peeled for Sheetz coming out this week, starting with Thursday's Super Rugby, and then obviously we'll
Grumpy Old Prop: I think if that's going to have to happen when even ben Young's is like, yeah, he's got to go.
jarrod_dyke: release the, um, the six nations one on Saturday. Plus don't forget Patreon, um, analytics will come out for six stations this week.
Grumpy Old Prop: i mean, I know I've seen that. It does. It says a lot.
jarrod_dyke: And then we're going to start to cook up the super rugby ones, um, sometime in the next week or two here. So we can get you guys those as well.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yay.
jarrod_dyke: And then, and then, and and then don't forget, we're back to the premiership soon. So we're back to that. So everybody enjoy your super Saturday.
jarrod_dyke: Um, Kick back. Have fun. Don't be do so too stupid. And we'll catch you guys real soon.
Grumpy Old Prop: Hopefully
jarrod_dyke: Have a good one. Thanks for listening, guys. Cheers.
Grumpy Old Prop: I can get that this week, yeah. Although, but yeah, might not be ready for Friday. Whee!
Grumpy Old Prop: Later.
