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Episode 34: A Journey Through Sound Healing, Plant Medicine and Becoming a Death Doula with Rev. Jessica Sharp
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Reverend Jessica Sharp was born in Salt Lake, Utah and raised in a Mormon culture religion and culture. Jessica studied photojournalism and had an opportunity to work for the Boston Globe. When Jessica married her high school sweetheart, they moved back to Utah, which was during the 2008 recession. She got a job as a nanny, and the lady she was working for trained her in disaster management. Jessica transitioned into the corporate world.
When she felt she had served her time in the corporate world, Jessica co-founded @nouera.co and her events provides wellness experiences paired with plant medicines.
Jessica is a spiritual counselor providing several types of healing services, such as sound baths, psychic readings, herbal remedies and is also a death doula specializing in transition and closures.
In this episode, Jessica shares with us what she does and her journey to becoming the person she is today. We also get to learn more about her family.
Listen to this episode.
Key Talking Points of the Episode:
[01:27] Getting to know Jessica
[07:32] Jessicca’s discovery of her spiritual gifts
[18:13] Jessica’s services
[24:22] Understanding Jessica’s work process as a death doula
[26:43] How Jessica does animal psychic work
[30:10] Impacts of sadness on Jessica’s transition work
[34:58] Tools that Jessica on herself before and after healing people
[39:32] The moment when Jessica knew it was time to exit the corporate world
Magical Quotes from the Episode:
“Death is the process of release and transfiguration and transformation.”
“Death is like playing Monopoly, and you get a get-out-of-jail-free card when it comes to your karma.”
“Energy doesn't die. You do move on to something.”
“The gift of leaving is that you are no longer burdened by the suffering that you experienced in this life.”
“You have to take care of yourself before you can care for others.”
Note: This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only
Resources:
Rev. Jessica Sharp Website
Nouera
Psychic Horizons
Recommended
Transcript
Introduction to 'Psychic Girls Next Door' and Reverend Jessica Sharp
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Welcome to Psychic Girls Next Door.
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We are your hosts, Shannon Miller and Lily Hiberino.
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This podcast is for all spirituality enthusiasts and psychics next door to share tools, experiences, and spiritual practices that align with your highest vibrational self.
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On today's episode, we are honored to have Reverend Jessica Sharp.
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Jessica is a spiritual counselor providing several types of healing services, such as sound baths, which I definitely have attended and I think I've talked about on this podcast before.
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She also provides psychic readings and herbal remedies, and she also is a death doula specializing in the transition and closures.
Jessica's Background and Career Transition
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So Jessica, thank you so much for being here today.
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Thank you for having me.
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having me it's such a pleasure and a joy um and also just really appreciate it because we've also been trained um in the same psychic tools together so it's always good to be around um people who use the same tools yeah we feel the same way yeah absolutely um do you want to ask the first question sure yeah so jessica we would just like to start off by
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just learning more about your background, like where you grew up, your educational background, religious, spirituality, that you follow your astrological sign, if you want to share your human design, if you also know it or anything else that you like to share with our listeners.
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Great.
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Yeah.
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So I was born in Salt Lake City, Utah, and I was raised in the Mormon religion and culture.
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My family left the Mormon church when I was very young, but just like if you were to grow up in the Vatican, you would identify as Catholic growing up in Utah.
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I'm culturally Mormon, even though I haven't been spiritually Mormon for a long time.
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And I went to school in Boston where I studied journalism, photojournalism.
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And I had this really exciting opportunity to work for the Boston Globe while I was there, which is really wonderful.
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But I decided to marry my high school sweetheart and I moved back to Utah at the same time as the recession in 2008, 2009.
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Mm-hmm.
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And, um, I got, actually got a job as a nanny and the woman I was a nanny to was a crisis manager and she trained me how to be a crisis manager.
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So, um, I went from changing diapers to building data centers, um, and presenting in boardrooms.
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Uh, so in my early twenties, I became a disaster planning, disaster management, disaster crisis, disaster recovery expert for fortune 500 companies.
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Oh my God.
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Um, I didn't
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Yeah, I know.
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That's what it was like.
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Totally.
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It's one of my past lives that's still in this body.
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Like in 180.
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Yeah.
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So I worked with airlines, hospitals, banks, financial institutions, like many of the major ones.
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doing large scale disaster planning across their data center, people, processes, facilities.
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And I wanted to move into innovation.
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So I moved over to Salesforce and I actually had like five different jobs when
Founding Earth Body Church and Spiritual Transformation
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I was there.
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Oh, nice.
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And I started as a crisis manager.
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I moved into product management, marketing.
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I worked in philanthropy, sales, marketing.
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And it was at that time when I was, I really wanted to just explore like, how could I,
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Thank you.
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this through line that I now have identified as me as like a peacemaker.
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How can I really leverage this to the best use for myself and the people around me?
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And I was in sales at the time and I just realized how few social spaces I actually felt comfortable and invited and safe in.
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And so I left Salesforce to start my own mindful events company.
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I started New Era with my business partner, Cynthia, who also
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Nice.
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Introduced me to the psychic work and also went through the psychic training with me.
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So I had a legal cannabis business where we hosted mindful events and we invited people to use low doses of cannabis rather than having alcohol present in the spaces.
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And I was doing that when COVID.
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Well, and then during that time, I also went to sound healing school because one of the events we hosted was sound healing.
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And I was just like, wow, this is amazing.
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I got to do more of this.
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So I went through sound healing school and then COVID happened and we couldn't host events.
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And so we
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uh, to kind of take a step back.
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And that's when I went through psychic school.
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And, uh, I would say that I, I made a really big transition at that time because, um, it's something like I, I found it and it was just so helpful.
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I just kept going.
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And then I like woke up and I was a minister, like,
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I just kept going because I needed it for my sanity during COVID.
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And then all of a sudden I realized like, oh, I'm a minister now.
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Like I have this, I've been given this opportunity.
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And so I've made a pretty dramatic shift in how I've thought about and approached my life and my work as a byproduct of that.
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Now started my own church entity called Earth Body Church.
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Nice.
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And I do my sound healing and psychic work and death work and medicinal work under that umbrella.
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And I think that's something that I often that I'm really passionate about is like systems and healing systems and both at the individual, like myself in relationship to myself, in relationship to my soul, in relationship to spirit within myself, but then also interpersonal.
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So in relationship with others and then in groups and communities and in organizations.
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So I'd say like my through line in my life is around like peacemaking and like how can I look at that in the concentric circles of self to other to community.
Cultural Influences and Spiritual Identity Struggles
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I'm a Capricorn.
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Same here.
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Yeah.
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Many of my signs, though, my other signs are in like Sagittarius.
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So, yeah, that's as far as I've gotten.
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I'm not I'm still getting into the astrology.
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There's so much.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I love looking at people's birth charts.
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So let me know.
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Yeah, totally.
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Yeah.
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So that's that's what's kind of guided me and led me and how I've stumbled through life up until this point and how I've organized myself.
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I love how you say stumble, but I feel like that's you.
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I can tell you're a systems thinker because I also am a systems thinker.
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And just like how you found that like common thread as being a peacemaker through all of your career experiences.
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And like how.
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Let's talk about like the spiritual aspect when.
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When did you know that you like, obviously you grew up Mormon from what you've told us today.
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And from what I've, you know, we took the minister class together.
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So I know I knew that you were Mormon.
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Like, when did you first discover that like you were a spiritual being or you wanted to connect more to energy work to, you know, the space of like the intangible?
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Like, how old do you think you were?
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Or did you ever have any like aha moments that where you're like, I need to just like,
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transition out of the corporate world and do this type of work?
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I know that's like a few different questions.
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Yeah, no, I think that's really helpful.
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And the thing about, so my answer to that is, let me just pause.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So my relationship to spirituality is very split.
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In the Mormon culture and in the Mormon belief system, which I was raised in, my father is white.
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He's from Utah and my mother is Korean.
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She came over from Korea.
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Wow.
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So that's kind of an important component that really came out in my ministry class and still really impacts me deeply.
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And so when I think of that question, I kind of come back to like my... There was a point in which my conditioning shed enough that I could start to say like, I'm a person that's... I'm a woman that talks to God and doesn't have children.
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Right.
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And like, I didn't have examples of what that was growing up.
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And I was also explicitly told by everyone around me that that was like,
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not a thing.
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Right, right.
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Constantly invalidating it.
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Also, that it was not of God.
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Right.
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Like, it's like, it's actually a direct rebellion in some ways.
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Oh, yeah.
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No, that makes sense if you think about, like, the, how the programming is in that cult and, you know.
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The programming in that culture that I was raised in and grew up in.
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So, I did also leave, when I moved to the Bay, I married my high school sweetheart, my Mormon high school sweetheart.
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So, there was a time when I moved around and when I was at Salesforce, basically.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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When I went through my divorce with my Mormon ex-husband.
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Okay.
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And I was like, oh, like, there's like, I can be a spiritual being as a woman.
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And also, like, I don't have to have children, like, to be of God.
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So, like, where it was like, that became, like, very clear and solid for me.
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Also, because I wasn't married to my Mormon husband anymore.
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I had chosen divorce.
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I had chosen to split off of what was viewed as good and right by my upbringing.
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At the same time, I was raised by a Korean mother and my mother
Korean Shamanism and Psychic Training
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is very clairvoyant.
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She actually also went through psychic horizons after I did.
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My mom is very clairvoyant and in Korean culture, they still have a tradition of shamanism, mudangs and mansions.
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who are clairvoyant.
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And it's very interesting because the female shamans in Korean culture in the 1400s, they were deemed the same as the slave class.
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So in public, in Korean culture, and this still exists today.
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So there's modern day Korean shamans still today.
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Like this is a tradition that has continued
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Despite being made a slave class, despite Christianization of Korea, despite the Japanese invasion, despite Confucianism and Chinese coming in.
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Like this line of shamanism was actually started from the very first group of humans who went and established Korea.
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Right.
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That's amazing.
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And so it's very deep.
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It's very underground.
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And it's actually matrilineal.
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And I carry actually two matrilineal spiritual lineages, Korean shamanism and psychic horizons.
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I love that.
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And I think that's something that like maybe like is like maybe like not as a word, but psychic horizons is a matriarchal spiritual lineage.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it definitely is.
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It is.
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So that's like kind of interesting because they're rare and they're underground.
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Yeah, no, totally.
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It's just like kind of, you know, it's like, oh, it's like interesting to see that.
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But so my mom was clairvoyant and growing up, she validated in me my clairvoyant skills.
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My clairvoyant ability is from a very young age, but she also instilled in me that it was
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unsafe for other anybody besides her to know about it right right she was being protective yeah which is like fair because like across the entire earth for the last few thousand years women have been burned killed oh totally and kicked out of their communities for having intuitive skills for using their own intuitive powers right
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So this is also not just the Salem witch trials.
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This has also happened in Asia.
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It's like a universal thing.
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So it's fair.
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It's reasonable that my mom would say, yes, you have these skills.
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And yes, you have this ability.
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And yes, there's nothing wrong with it.
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But also, don't you ever let anybody else know that you...
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You can do this.
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It's like a family secret.
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Yeah.
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It's like, and even just like a secret between me and my mom, like me and I never spoke about spirituality like this with my father, like with my father either.
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Yeah.
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So just like knew that you couldn't go there.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So, and,
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there was a way in which my internal spirituality in relationship to my intuitive abilities and in my relationship to God was like almost like inoculated with my mom.
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So like I have a very different internal spiritual experience and an external presenting spiritual experience.
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I love how you have so many different layers there.
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So like I said, like the answer to that is like there's it has more to do with when I have
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begin to feel comfortable letting other people know how deep my spiritual practices are and go that are in and of and with myself, which I have had since I was a very young person.
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Yeah, and I bet you used your intuitive abilities to suss out... My whole life.
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Yeah, like, who can I actually be open with?
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's kind of... Maybe because we are women and...
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in our DNA somewhere we know that it is unsafe to share this in like out in the open.
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Like I wouldn't go in the grocery store and be like, I'm a clairvoyant, you know, like even though in San Francisco, no one would really care.
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Probably maybe 2% might be like what, but yeah,
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When you are in environments where you're like exploring different people who may not have the same type of abilities or type of, you know, upbringing.
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And I mean, it's good to be cautious.
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Yeah, there's still a stigma around all of this.
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Psychic women, clairvoyance and whatever it is related to all of that, you know, and I think that's why we're here.
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That's what this podcast is about is to really dismantle all of this outdated, very outdated mentality.
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But I'm also curious, you know, you've mentioned that.
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So your mom, she knew it.
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But what about the rest of your family?
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Are they aware now what you do and how do they respond or react to it like today?
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Yeah, great question.
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So I was raised with two brothers.
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I have a brother and a sister.
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My sister transitioned.
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My sister's transgender.
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And I'm very close with my sister, who I supported through her transgender.
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We're very close.
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So she's very aware.
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I lived with her when I was going through school.
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So she comes to my events.
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So I'm very close with my sister.
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But she's also chosen an alternative lifestyle as a transgender person.
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Sure.
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And I'm very close with my mom.
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I actually don't really speak with my father very much.
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He has since returned home to Utah and lives with his Mormon family.
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My parents are divorced.
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And I have an older brother who...
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as an adult returned back to the Mormon church has since sort of left, has left logistically, but not really spiritually or energetically in terms of removing himself from the, like the belief systems.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, um,
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I would say, or at least that's my experience of him.
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And he is uninterested in developing a relationship with me, even though he now lives close and I've reached out multiple times.
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So it's very gender split in my family regarding where I have space to be connected.
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who I am and what I know and what I see and what my power is.
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Yeah.
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And it was also very, it was difficult for my father.
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I think it is still somewhat difficult for my father to accept to a degree.
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Again, there's going that like the Mormon belief system is that it's,
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men's job to talk to God and women's job to have babies.
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And there is a direct rebellion.
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I actually recently went to visit him last year right after graduating.
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And when I was there, his Mormon bishop just happened to come and visit.
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And I remember just having this moment where I was like, this is funny.
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I haven't seen my dad or spoken to him in many years and now I show up and so does the Mormon bishop at the same time.
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It's like a magnet.
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Yeah.
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And I just had this moment where I also recognized that I had this choice where I was just like, I introduced myself.
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It was like this moment of introducing myself and I like, it was like I had this like, which path do you choose?
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And you know, because I'm like, I have a fork in the road of how I want to introduce myself.
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And I ended up introducing myself as like, hi, I'm Jessica.
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I'm
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you know, my father's daughter.
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Yeah.
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And then after the bishop, and then I could tell my father didn't, you know, he was excited to see his kids.
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So he was like, you know, he kind of ushered the bishop out.
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And afterwards, I was like, yeah, I did not introduce myself as Reverend Jessica Sharp because I didn't want to open that can of worms.
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Yeah.
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You knew it was red or not.
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I was just going to leave it for now.
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Yeah.
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This is an elephant in the room that I don't need to name necessarily all the time.
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Yeah.
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And I think that's a good discernment capability,
Jessica's Healing Services Explained
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right?
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Like, you know, it's not dishonoring you or your gifts or your beliefs, but it's like discerning, like, is it safe to share this information or present myself this way?
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And I think that's a good way to, it's a good skill to have.
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regardless.
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Yeah.
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You just kind of have to pick your battles.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Be selective who you want to share this information with and who you don't want to share this information with.
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So, yeah, that's great.
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Great that you still, you stood in your own power, you know.
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Yeah.
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So let's bring it to today.
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Like, so you have all these different types of healing modalities that you provide to people.
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Can you tell us a little bit about all of the services that you provide and, you know, what are some of your favorites that you provide to other people?
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Yeah.
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So I'll start with the sound healing.
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I've been, I've been doing that the longest.
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So I do a monthly cannabis sound bath at Green Yogi, third Friday of the month.
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And I'm exploring, um,
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to add some more tea and sound baths, not necessarily with cannabis, although we could still use, you know, if you're somebody who wants to use cannabis for the sound baths, you still can.
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But I'm thinking about opening it and making it a little bit more inclusive.
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So I'm going to be doing more tea and sound baths around the Bay Area, including at my own home.
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So that's something that if people are interested, they can look into.
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The sound baths are an hour to two hours.
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The whole event is usually three to four hours or three to six hours.
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And I also do psychic reading.
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So I can do those in person or over Zoom.
00:19:11
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And sometimes I do both the sound healing and the psychic reading together where I do the psychic reading to really do the deep looking.
00:19:18
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Mm-hmm.
00:19:18
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And then we use sound as the sort of imprinting of the like clean slate of the like verification of the like transition to a peace state and like an imprinting of that peace state to move it forward.
00:19:35
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And then I do, I also offer psychedelic consulting.
00:19:39
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So I have studied and trained under different lineages.
00:19:46
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And there are plant allies that I work with, cannabis as well as like mushrooms that I advise people with and regarding how to develop our relationships in terms of relationships.
00:19:59
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an energetic relationship, you know, thinking of these plant allies as tools, thinking of them as their own spirits to develop relationships with in respect and in continuity.
00:20:11
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And then I also do death doula work, which is something that's emerged more recently through my apprenticeship, my continued apprenticeship with psychic horizons.
00:20:20
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And the focus with this death work is...
00:20:24
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that we're all going to die.
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We're all going to die.
00:20:28
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It's something we all have to go through.
00:20:30
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When you look at it through the psychic lens, it's something we go through many times.
00:20:34
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You know, certainly these bodies into other lifetimes, but also it within our own bodies, with our own identities, with our own attachments, like death is the process of release and transfiguration and transformation.
00:20:46
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And the more I've
00:20:49
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fallen into this and studied and learned, the more I've realized just that the death itself is like this.
00:20:55
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It's like playing Monopoly and you get to get out of jail free card when it comes to your karma.
00:21:00
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Yeah.
00:21:01
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Like, and around the death process, both approaching it as it's happening and shortly thereafter, there's this very ripe time where you can just really cleanse a tremendous amount of karma and you can end, you
00:21:19
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cycles with people to create closure, create tremendous healing in relationship to others, in relationship to self, in relationship to what you're moving on to next.
00:21:30
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Because as we know, energy doesn't die.
00:21:31
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You do move on to something, right?
00:21:34
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So...
00:21:35
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The death doula work is focused on helping people see and understand, training people themselves how to move through that process.
00:21:42
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So in the Taoist belief, you have five elemental bodies that dissolve into each other as you're going through death.
00:21:47
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And you can train yourself to mindfully go through them.
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So then when you go through death, you can mindfully go through it and cleanse a lot yourself.
00:21:55
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And then you can also work with psychics, like people like myself who can guide you and also work with you on an astral shortly after your transition to also just help at like, just like if you're moving out an apartment, you're going to hire a professional cleaner to come through and clean it up after you.
00:22:11
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Like that's,
00:22:12
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You're going to clean it up well, but then you're also going to clean it up.
00:22:15
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It's the same thing.
00:22:16
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So that's also what I work with.
00:22:18
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So what's interesting is that Psychic Horizons, the specialty I developed during my apprenticeship was these transition readings.
00:22:25
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And I can work with people who've left their body longer than three days.
00:22:31
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But that three-day window, and we see this also in like Hindu cultures and other cultures that have this understanding of reincarnation, that a 72-hour window after leaving your body is like this just extremely ripe time for healing and cleansing.
00:22:48
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So I'm developing work now to help work with people in their own process.
Death Doula Work and Cultural Views on Death
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And then also just, yeah, training and supporting that and more education and awareness.
00:22:58
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Because, again, in the Eastern, where I recently went to the Himalayas and did a deeper study, this is like no knowledge.
00:23:05
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They're like, oh, yeah, we reincarnate.
00:23:07
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And when you die, it's like you do these things.
00:23:08
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Yeah, yeah.
00:23:09
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But like on Western spiritual traditions, it's just like death has become such a taboo topic.
00:23:14
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Right.
00:23:16
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And it doesn't really serve us.
00:23:18
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And we don't necessarily have to anymore.
00:23:20
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Like we can't approach it.
00:23:21
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We all know we're going to die.
00:23:22
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Yeah.
00:23:23
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We have such resistance to it.
00:23:25
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There's no resistance.
00:23:26
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Yeah.
00:23:26
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It doesn't serve us.
00:23:27
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I think it's like the idea of attachment, right?
00:23:29
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Like people get very attached to people, to things, to their routine, their lives.
00:23:34
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And so I think it can be hard.
00:23:36
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That's like when you think of like the death of an ego, like when you go through something in your personal life that just like really just changes your life dramatically, whether you want to or not.
00:23:45
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It can be a, you know, a death of an ego or a death in general or some type of thing.
00:23:50
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of transition, like if you were used to like, you know, doing a certain job and then you get fired, that can also be like a scene as a death.
00:23:57
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But I think it's so fascinating that just everything that you do, like, I think it's just amazing, like, especially around like, you know, that three day period after someone transitions
00:24:09
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to the astral plane or to the next life.
00:24:11
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Like, what does that process look like when you are in that space of like reading or helping that person?
00:24:19
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It's like spirit kind of guiding them to the next place where they're going to go or what does that really look like from what you've seen?
00:24:27
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Yeah.
00:24:27
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So I, the way that I experienced it is that like, I'm basically like a glorified secretary.
00:24:34
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Yeah.
00:24:36
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I love it.
00:25:06
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It's very similar to when I'm doing a reading with somebody who's alive, but I'm the only one usually who can hear the person who's passed.
00:25:12
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Yeah, yeah.
00:25:13
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And so I'm oftentimes sort of giving...
00:25:16
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I'm not totally giving verbatim voice for them, but what I'm doing is I'm offering at a meta level generally what's happening.
00:25:24
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That's why I say I'm a secretary, you know, like, okay, what's happening?
00:25:27
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So I actually recently did a memorial of a friend who passed and I worked with him to write what it is that I was going to say about his life at his memorial.
00:25:40
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And I actually didn't really share that with a lot of people because...
00:25:46
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Ability to talk to the dead is like this sort of misunderstood, also taboo, kind of like a weird thing.
00:25:52
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It's like a can of worms that I don't need to like the like that was more important as you get the message.
Psychic Work and Energetic Patterns
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I don't need to run up against your limiting belief statements in order to give you the gift.
00:26:05
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True.
00:26:05
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Like I just want to give you the gift.
00:26:07
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Yeah, yeah.
00:26:07
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Just take the gift.
00:26:08
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Just take the gift.
00:26:10
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So I don't know, like, how would this be different than like a medium?
00:26:14
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You know, because since you're talking about like talking to the deceased one.
00:26:17
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This is such a great question.
00:26:19
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It almost looks like it would intersect in a way, but I can see like how it's a very distinct...
00:26:26
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ability per se, right?
00:26:27
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There's differences.
00:26:28
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Yeah, I figured.
00:26:30
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So maybe if we could just explain like... And I think this is actually really good to talk about too, because this also comes up with my animal psychic work.
00:26:39
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I love that.
00:26:40
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And I'm going to start, first I'm going to explain it through the animal psychic work, because then I think it makes more sense afterwards.
00:26:45
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But basically with the animal psychic work, what I've come to realize is that there are what I'm calling animal communicators and psychics.
00:26:52
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So there are people out there who are calling themselves animal psychics.
00:26:55
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But what they're basically doing is they're sort of taking verbatim the communication that's coming from the animal.
00:27:01
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They're a translator.
00:27:02
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Just like if you're watching a UN and somebody is making a speech and then there's a translator who's verbatim telling what's the information that's being said.
00:27:10
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Yeah.
00:27:11
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That's a communicator.
00:27:13
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To me, I'm I position myself as a psychic.
00:27:16
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So like I'm not I'm taking lots of information.
00:27:19
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I'm taking what you're saying.
00:27:20
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But more importantly, I'm actually looking at your energy body.
00:27:24
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And I'm I'm negotiating where we're at, where we're going, what we hope to see next, purely based on your energy body.
00:27:34
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And I'm taking information of what you're saying as part of it.
00:27:37
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Yeah.
00:27:38
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So that's what I'm saying.
00:27:38
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Like, it's more of like a secretary.
00:27:40
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So when it comes to like the death work, I'm listening.
00:27:44
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But what's more important is that I'm really looking at the like the karma lens.
00:27:48
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So where are you still giving where where's like life energy still being transmitted back and forth?
00:27:55
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Because at a certain point, it's actually not helping to transmit life energy to somebody who's like passed on.
00:28:01
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So it's looking at what's karmically keeping the connections, the pictures there.
00:28:05
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And then I'm looking at the programming, the pictures, the things at the energy body level that's keeping these patterns, behaviors, and words in place.
00:28:14
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And I'm offering a programmatic change to those.
00:28:17
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So it's less a focus on the content and it's more a focus on what's the lens of those contents going through so we can change the lenses instead.
00:28:25
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So that's more of a metaphysical level than it is a direct communication level.
00:28:29
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So when I explain to like animal psychic work, it's like, I'm not going to sit down with your dog and ask your dog why it shat on your rug on Tuesday.
00:28:38
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Yeah.
00:28:38
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And explain it to you.
00:28:39
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Yeah.
00:28:40
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A lot of Warners would have laughed at all.
00:28:42
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I'm sure.
00:28:43
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But what I will do.
00:28:44
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You can figure out like why maybe like the deeper.
00:28:48
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Exactly.
00:28:48
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What I. Exactly.
00:28:49
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What I will do is I'll sit in the couch with you and I'll figure out why did you pick this dog?
00:28:54
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Why did this dog pick you?
00:28:55
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Yeah.
00:28:55
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What is at the core of that behavior?
00:28:58
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Yeah.
00:28:58
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And how can we change the core of the behavior, the core of the understanding that's going to shift the behavior because it's layers deeper than what we're experiencing?
00:29:08
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Oh, that's so cool.
00:29:09
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Yeah, no, that's amazing.
00:29:11
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I, you know, I don't know, I'm learning so much.
00:29:13
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I never, you know, when you work in this, especially in the psychic world or energy work, and you think about like healing things,
00:29:47
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You know, and that's amazing.
00:29:49
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And I can only imagine too that, you know, when the loud phones, they contact you, right, to do this work.
00:29:55
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So I'm assuming the person's already probably, you know, in this transitional phase, like pretty much they kind of have a pretty sad picture coming up.
00:30:05
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Does that influence like any of this work, like their grief and sadness?
00:30:11
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Like, does that impact any of this transitional period?
00:30:15
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Yeah, absolutely.
00:30:17
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It does 100%.
00:30:19
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First, I will also say is that like, I'm going to talk about consent because I still need and get and receive consent when speaking with dead people.
00:30:27
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Yeah, yeah.
00:30:29
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The way that I and that's actually I'm still like, yeah, put a pin on this for answering that, which is like the whole thing of consent, because I've been just been speaking with so many.
00:30:38
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It's unfortunately rare for energy healers to be taught to seek, get and receive consent.
00:30:47
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and continue to check in about consent along the way when they're doing healing energy work.
00:30:50
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And I think that that's really important.
00:30:51
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Yeah.
00:30:52
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And I do that when I'm working with babies, with animals, with dead people.
00:30:57
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And that's like an integrity thing.
00:30:59
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Oh, for sure.
00:31:01
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And I think it's like important to say.
00:31:02
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And part of that too is then like the part of feeling into that is the emotional state of people and what they have the capacity in the physical and the here and now to...
00:31:14
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to take in.
00:31:16
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And so that's part of my job as a secretary, right?
00:31:19
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So like I, that's like part of the information.
00:31:22
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One of the pieces of information that I'm taking as well is what the emotional state, what's going on in their emotional body.
00:31:28
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What's also going in their sort of
00:31:31
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conscious analyzer, like what are the signals and signs that they're showing in that moment?
00:31:36
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And what do they have the capacity to absorb in my sharing of what I'm doing and experiencing?
00:31:46
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Because as I'm working, as you know, we are communicating about what's going on, but I'm also in my psychic space working.
00:31:54
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And sometimes too, the level of information that I share is,
00:31:59
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will sort of be determined by what I see in the other person, which includes their emotional state, which choose their openness to hearing.
00:32:08
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Like some people just also want to be healed and they don't want to know how the sausage was made.
00:32:12
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Yeah, that's true.
00:32:14
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Like, so you kind of have to feel into that.
00:32:16
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So like I'm going through here, like, you know, and one aspect of my attention I'm going through, I'm going to go through and do all the healing steps I know on the astral.
00:32:24
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Mm-hmm.
00:32:25
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And then the other part of me is like, how much of what I'm doing over here can I sort of translate and package in a way that's going to feel gentle and kind and absorbable?
00:32:37
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Yeah.
00:32:39
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And integrative for them.
00:32:41
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Yeah.
00:32:41
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Because it's also like weird to like, you know, it'd be like weird for me to like walk like, oh, I talk to dead people and talk to your mom.
00:32:46
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Like, that's like not an aware way of communicating my skill.
00:32:50
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Right.
00:32:51
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So for sure.
00:32:52
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32:53
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So I'd say that that's like part of it.
00:32:55
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And I think that that's also like an important aspect of psychic work and energy work that's also maybe less discussed as well.
00:33:04
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And that is like the difference between what we know we can do at an energy level and what we consciously talk about with others.
00:33:13
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So that there seems to be like a coherence in the gentleness of the giving and receiving
Self-care for Psychics and Personal Growth
00:33:18
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of that.
00:33:18
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Yeah.
00:33:18
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I really love that.
00:33:19
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I think when I read people, I always, when I would read people on Psychic Horizons, I learned from this guy, Carlos, and he was just such a great reader.
00:33:31
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You know, when you read with other people and you're like, I want to do exact, he just gets in, he pulls out the weed, he like gives it to you straight and like, but some people don't want that, you know, packaged it like that, if that makes sense.
00:33:47
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They want it
00:33:48
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You can tell intuitively, like, what's appropriate to share versus not.
00:33:52
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And so when you are, you know, creating space for the family members of the deceased and even for the, you know, the deceased itself, like...
00:34:03
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How do you, you know, kind of go through that process of, because in a way you can become a toxic handler, right?
00:34:12
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So like you're handling people's emotions about their past, the person who's passed away, who it's either them who have passed away or, you know, the family members who are in the environment and surrounding the people who have passed away.
00:34:28
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How do you,
00:34:29
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you know, go through the process yourself and kind of transmit that energy.
00:34:35
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And like, after you've done the healing work with the families or the person who's passed away, like, what is your process to like separate and come back to yourself?
00:34:45
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Because I can imagine you have to go through some type of process to like, you know, really separate and clean out.
00:34:52
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And obviously we know this, you know,
00:34:54
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how to do it from the psychic horizons way, but are there any other tools that you use before and after your healings with people?
00:35:03
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Yeah, yeah, totally.
00:35:05
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I'm going to answer that.
00:35:06
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I just want to also comment on something about the death readings.
00:35:10
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And that is that I have had one death reading where the person who had passed, I was reading was actually quite hostile towards us.
00:35:19
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It was in a group.
00:35:19
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It was in school, which was like, yes.
00:35:23
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But besides that, everybody else who I've worked with who left their body, I
00:35:30
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When you, the gift of that 72 hours, when you, the gift of leaving is that you are, you are no longer burdened by the suffering.
00:35:38
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Yeah.
00:35:38
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That you experienced in this life.
00:35:40
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You're no longer burdened.
00:35:41
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So like you're, you're on the other side of the veil and you're like, oh, everything's love.
00:35:46
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I get it.
00:35:46
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Like, so.
00:35:48
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You're not really tapping into like toxicity.
00:35:50
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Yeah.
00:35:51
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Yeah, I'm talking... The family members.
00:35:53
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So who's usually struggling is not the dead person.
00:35:56
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They're like, oh, yeah, great.
00:35:58
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And we also see this when people are about to die and they get close.
00:36:00
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They're like, oh, God, I can forgive everyone.
00:36:01
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I just got to forgive everyone.
00:36:03
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Yeah.
00:36:04
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So usually the people who have passed are easy to tell you.
00:36:07
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It is the family members.
00:36:08
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That's harder.
00:36:09
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And sometimes I filter.
00:36:10
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And I actually do.
00:36:12
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So I'm talking directly to the person who's passed.
00:36:14
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And I'm creating... The reading is for them.
00:36:16
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And I'm reading to them.
00:36:17
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And I'm talking to them.
00:36:18
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And then I'm taking what's being...
00:36:20
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shared and I'm asking what is appropriate to share about this for the people who are receiving it.
00:36:27
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And then I'm taking that guidance and then I'm sharing from there.
00:36:31
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And that sort of honors that different people are in different places of understanding and different experiences to make it digestible, accessible.
00:36:43
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And then I would say afterwards, yes, so it is very important for me to close out myself, to step away, to say this, okay, close that container.
00:36:53
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Yeah.
00:36:54
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So I certainly use the psychic horizon tools of sort of disconnecting, cleaning up.
00:37:00
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But then I also use a lot of somatic tools.
00:37:04
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So I'm working on more psychic somatic work, but being in and of the body.
00:37:12
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So like I do a lot of like dancing, shaking, shaking, a lot of like shaking work.
00:37:18
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Dancing, movement, just tuning in, doing full body scans.
00:37:21
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Yeah.
00:37:22
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And just like just sitting and, you know, feeling into my fingers, feeling into my toes, just like, am I consciously in my body right now?
00:37:30
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And how can I get consciously in my body right now?
00:37:32
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Yeah.
00:37:32
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And that's something that I seek to practice multiple times a day, but especially before my readings and after my readings.
00:37:39
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Oh, yeah.
00:37:40
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Because my personal thing is like, I've been disassociated.
00:37:44
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It's very easy for me to disassociate.
00:37:45
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Oh, you fly out of it.
00:37:47
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Yeah, I'll be like, I'll be off with the dead people.
00:37:49
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Like I had a ray for like the next few days and Jessica's body is just like sitting here.
00:37:53
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So I got it.
00:37:55
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It's like for me, a lot of the closure and like being able to do this work and be able to do this work and not be blasted by it is from I got to come back into my body.
00:38:05
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So I need those practices where I get back into my body.
00:38:08
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And I've luckily surrounded myself with other healing practitioners who focus and are grounded and anchored in somatics.
00:38:14
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Yeah.
00:38:15
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And so that's really helpful for me as well.
00:38:18
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Yeah.
00:38:19
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You have to take care of yourself before you can care for others.
00:38:23
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Yeah.
00:38:24
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That was something that really stuck with me that our teacher, Laura Hopper, shared about in one of the classes is that it's very common for trans mediums to have health problems because you spend so much time allowing these other channels, other energy to come through you that
00:38:39
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you're not in your body enough to actually care for in the way that it needs to be.
00:38:43
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So like, I really took that and was like, I'm one of those people.
00:38:47
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Right.
00:38:47
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Yeah.
00:38:47
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And I think we can all relate to that.
00:38:49
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Yeah.
00:38:50
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Because it's always about the giving and the giving, but then you also have to like be able to give it to yourself.
00:38:56
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Yeah.
00:38:56
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Yeah.
00:38:57
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Oh, that's beautiful.
00:38:58
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So I just want to pivot a little bit.
00:39:00
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I just kind of want to rewind a little bit.
00:39:02
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When was, was there like a moment where you were in like in the corporate world and just decided to then transition to being this like solopreneur, you know, want to call it, was there like a moment when you felt that was your calling or was it always, and I know that you already kind of like knew it, but when was that a decisive moment?
00:39:23
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You're like, you know what, I, this corporate world, you know, I've learned, it served me a purpose, but now it's time to
00:39:31
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move on and really like follow my path.
00:39:34
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When was like that moment that you realized that?
00:39:37
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So that that moment was actually yeah, that moment was actually in my early 20s before I when I had barely entered into the corporate world.
00:39:45
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So in my early 20s, when I had moved back to Utah to marry my ex-husband, my Mormon ex-husband, he had to finish college in Utah.
00:39:53
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So that's why we moved back from Boston.
00:39:55
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And
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I got a job as a nanny, which in my upbringing, the only 90% of the women I knew were stay-at-home moms.
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Yeah.
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The 10% who worked were caregivers.
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So they were teachers or they took care of babies or the elderly, or they were beauticians.
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That was like the only jobs that women had.
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Yeah.
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Even though I even had gone to college at Boston University of the Society of Photojournalists, it hadn't even occurred to me that I had the possibility of having what I'd call a professional, like a life outside of caregiving, actually, for others.
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Because I had just never seen that.
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So when I became a consultant, the woman who trained me to be a consultant and whose company I built with...
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I got to meet all these executives.
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I got to meet all these business people.
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And I just, I always worked with executives in boardrooms.
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And I just, I was like, it was exciting to me.
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I was like, oh, there's like, there's power, there's money, there's like change.
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There's like huge systems.
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I mean, like these are like, you know, these are like banks.
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These are hospitals.
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Like I worked many years for academic hospital, University of Utah Hospital.
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Actually, I helped them build multiple data centers and like,
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We figured out how to keep babies alive if there was an earthquake.
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That's so wild.
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You know, like using like really intense, actually, like it took a lot.
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Like technology and people and assets and positioning and plans.
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So...
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I was like, I want to this is like so there's something so like powerful and beautiful in this.
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Like at some point I would like to be a professional who starts my own business, who starts who like kind of like throws down.
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I'm going to create something that's like interesting.
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And so I actually went to I was either going to go get an MBA or I was going to go into Enterprise World and I applied for
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to Stanford, I didn't get in.
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But I had my foot in at Salesforce already.
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So I was like, well, I'm just gonna, and I did, I mean, I learned from more than half of Marc Benioff's direct reports were my mentors.
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So like, I think I, sorry Stanford, but I actually think I got a better education at Salesforce.
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Probably during the time when they were really getting successful.
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Oh, it was a very wonderful.
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Yes, it was like a very high growth, high impact time to do a lot.
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It was on there.
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Yeah, it was a rocket ship that I that I got a front row seat on.
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So that was it.
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But my time there was always to learn and go.
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Yeah.
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So that's why I had like five jobs.
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I was in like three or five different groups.
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Like I did like, I tried to do as many things as I could when I was there and I did.
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And so I used that as my jumping off point to then start my business.
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Yeah.
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And it was when I was, but I didn't quite know what it is that I wanted to do.
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And I ended up, one of my mentors took me to Burning Man and I just had this like aha moment that the social environments that
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that I are like mainstream that like, as like a salesperson, I'm going to go take my client to like, I can take them to a bar.
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I can take them to a restaurant.
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I can take them to the strip club.
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And I was like, Hmm, these options suck.
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Right.
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Like, I was like, why aren't there more mindful spaces like,
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I'm not saying that Burning Man is, but it was like this environment where it was like, oh, we can have tea houses.
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Oh, we can have sober parties.
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Oh, we can have like more mindful things.
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And it was like, oh, I can actually like take these things and put them smack dab like in the middle of our spaces.
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And that was really exciting to me.
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This like prospect of being able to create the social environments that I myself would want to participate in.
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Yeah, no, that's beautiful.
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And it's just amazing how like it almost like all this puzzle pieces all come together.
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You know, you're like, oh, it fits here.
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Oh my gosh, it fits here too.
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You know, and just create your own, your own little puzzle.
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I love that.
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Yeah.
00:43:55
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But where can we find you, Jessica?
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Your website, social media?
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Great question.
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So I am on Instagram.
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as jessa mcca lee or if you just search rev jessica sharp you can find me um and i like to post about meditation and tips and tools and stuff and also poems um and i also post about my upcoming events on there so it's a great place to follow me and then i do have a website um rev sharp dot earth
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where you can learn more about my offerings and I will be updating it soon with the Deaf Doula work.
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Nice.
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Awesome.
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Thank you so much, Reverend Jessica, for being with us today.
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I've learned so much about you and I've just enjoyed every moment of it and I can't wait to continue to attend your events.
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They're amazing.
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I said at the beginning, like,
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I saw one of my angels when I was at your sound healing, and I don't really see my guides too often, but when I was in that space that we were in, I was like, oh, that's one of my fallen angels.
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Like, that's a spirit guide for me.
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And I think that's like when I can have something new pop up.
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And you provided that space with Cynthia.
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And I think it's such a beautiful thing that both of you are doing, but socially, like all of the work that you're doing, it's going to be so impactful for everyone it touches and then everyone who they interact with.
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It's constant, like, you know, pull thread and this creating this web of healing for people.
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I think that's very beautiful.
00:45:35
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Yeah, well, thank you so much for being here and just sharing your energy, your time with us.
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And we hope that you guys also enjoy this such expansive episode.
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And please let us know if you have any questions.
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Follow Jessica on social media.
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We'll make sure to link all her contact information in the show notes.
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And we look forward to our next episode.
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Thank you so much from the Psychic Girls next door.