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Episode 33: Breaking the Sales Stereotype with Rev. Christine Volden from Collective Knowing and Soulful Selling
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In this episode, we have the pleasure of interviewing Christine Volden, an expert in sales and mindset. Selling is often misconstrued as greedy and pushy, but Christine challenges this notion. Drawing on her experiences and insights, she reveals that people engage in positive buying experiences every day, where they genuinely love their purchases. Like buying, selling can also be a positive, and empowering experience.
During the episode, Christine also shares her journey with spirituality and the profound impact it has had on her life. From her fascination with Tony Robbins' ideas on manifesting to her exploration of various modalities like breathwork, meditation, and past life regression, Christine is passionate about creating a safe space and community for individuals to embark on their spiritual journeys.
As a successful salesperson, Christine has developed the "Quiet Selling Method," a refreshing alternative to traditional sales training. Focusing on empowering individuals to navigate rejection, complex interactions, and self-promotion without compromising their integrity, her program strives to reshape the negative perception of selling, particularly for women.
If you would you like to learn more, listen to this episode!
Key Talking Points of the Episode:
[01:19] Getting to know Christine
[05:38] Services that Christine provides for people as part of Collective Knowing
[12:30] Christine's business experience
[14:06] Understanding soulful selling
[22:39] Christine's routine
[27:18] Christine's experience as a medium
[28:48] How Christine picks information
[30:48] Christine's experience being a psychic in corporate
[34:56] Disconnect from technology and have some fun
Magical Quotes from the Episode:
"Create a wall of all of the things that you have done and accomplished so you can look back because when you feel crappy, you need something to motivate you and show you actually made progress."
"If we were all to understand, especially as women, that to be able to sell and make money is empowering and enjoyable. Imagine the difference that would make."
"Selling means you're making money, and you're empowering yourself."
"Sometimes people need to hear things when they need to."
Note: This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only
Resources:
Christine Volden
Collective Knowing
Soulful Selling
Tony Robbins
The Silva Method
Psychic Horizons
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Transcript
Introduction to 'Psychic Girls Next Door'
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Welcome to Psychic Girls Next Door.
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We are your hosts, Lily Berino and Shannon Miller.
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This podcast is for all spirituality enthusiasts and psychics next door to share tools, experiences, and spiritual practices that align with your highest vibrational soul.
Meet Christine Voden
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So on today's episode, we are honored to have Christine Voden.
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And we met Christine through the School for Meditation Healing that we've attended.
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We've mentioned
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so many times here on this podcast and so we had the honor to cross paths with Christine and learn more about her so we wanted also for you guys to meet her and get to know her story so Christine is the owner and founder of Collective Knowing and she will explain more about it but hi Christine.
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Hi so nice to be here thank you guys for having me.
Christine's Spiritual Journey Begins
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Yeah, thanks for being here.
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Super excited.
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So, Christine, could you please tell us, you know, just a little about your background, like where you grew up, your educational background, religion, spirituality, if you feel comfortable sharing astrological sign, if you know it, like your human design, you know, Enneagram type of whatever you feel like sharing with us today.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, so I grew up in New Jersey, which is a really interesting place to grow up because I was really shy.
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And now, like, looking back, I was always very sensitive to energies.
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And when I realized, like, growing up, New Jersey is a very direct place, right?
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Like, if you can't say exactly what you want and what you need, people kind of just push you aside.
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And as, like, a really shy kid, I really...
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noticed that and um it's not until now like i look back and i'm like oh i was i was shy but i was also very energetically sensitive to things so um i just say that because the new jersey thing is significant and i think you know that happened for a reason but yeah i and i've been out in the west coast for like i don't know i think um probably like 20 years now um
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And I'm the founder of Collective Knowing.
Founding Collective Knowing
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Sorry, I'm trying to remember all the questions you just mentioned.
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Yeah, Collective Knowing.
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Yeah, so I founded Collective Knowing about two years ago.
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It's been interesting because you asked about my spiritual journey and I was always really interested in spirituality from the time I was a kid.
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Um, I was fascinated.
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I remember like even seeing people like Tony Robbins on TV and that was like way back when he did like PBS specials or I don't know what it was, but I was like, who is that person?
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And I'm like, what is he doing?
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Like, and I won't, I'm not like the biggest Tony Robbins fan, but I thought it was really fascinating what he was talking about because he was talking about manifesting and all this kind of stuff.
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So I was always super intimate from the time I was really young.
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Um,
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And I really like tried to learn everything I could.
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I would read books about, you know, past life regression, spirituality.
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I remember reading like the Silva mind control method when I was in high school.
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I have read that.
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Which, yeah, like my dad had a copy and I was so into it.
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And I remember trying to like, like meditate when I was in high school.
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Yeah.
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And now it's like kind of come back and become really popular.
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But yeah, I was really interested in all these different things.
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And so over, you know, the last 20 or so years, I've, you know, I don't know, I feel like I've done readings or classes or explored so many different modalities.
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And the reason I started Collective Knowing was because I noticed I'm not the only one who does
The Role of Collective Knowing
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that.
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Right.
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I see so many people are on their spiritual journey and they'll try one thing and then they'll try something else.
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It's like the right thing for you at the right time.
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And I wanted to create a safe space and community for people that they could explore that.
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Because I know when I was really young, I would meet very, sometimes very spiritual people who were very ungrounded.
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And it really scared me.
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Like, I felt very uncomfortable.
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And I didn't know why.
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Now, I understand they were ungrounded.
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But at the time, I was like, these people feel very uncomfortable to me.
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They make me very nervous.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it just didn't feel safe.
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Yeah.
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So for a long time, I really, you know, I would get these very, I would say like every year, I would have this really intense, like psychic mystical experience, like super, super intense.
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And then I would be like, holy shit.
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And then.
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How would you look like?
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Did you have vision?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, sometimes it would be vision, sometimes it would be like a massive download, sometimes I would see like all these people in a dream and no it was not a dream, but it would overwhelm me, so I would kind of, like it would happen and I'd think about it for a week and then I would just like completely block it out of my memory.
Integrating Soulful Selling
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So...
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That the whole idea behind collective knowing is really to create this safe space for people to explore stuff and to see, hey, there's these different things like I might be interested in breath work when I might when I first get started and then meditation and then past life regression.
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Or, you know, I just want people to have a safe place to meet different teachers of different modalities to be able to explore stuff in a place that feels safe.
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I love that.
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I love that too.
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I want to be part of this collective knowing.
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I would love for you guys to be part of it.
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Very cool.
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Yeah.
Future Plans for Collective Knowing's Events
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Like how, so how far, you know, how long have you been, I know that you've had another business, soulful selling that's going to be integrated in this, like, you know, kind of like collective knowing is like your umbrella, like what types of modalities or avenues or services will you be able to like provide for people as part of collective knowing?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So it really started out during the pandemic.
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And I will say this actually came about because of one of those mystical experiences.
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Like four years ago, I was in Sedona and I was at this workshop and we were doing this like, I don't know, some kind of like calisthenics or exercises.
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And it was like the spiritual retreat.
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And I and they were like, OK, you know, you're going to do this dancing and we're dancing to like, I don't know, it sounded like prom music was super cheesy.
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Yeah.
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And I'm like going along with it.
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And I'm like, okay, whatever.
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And then so, and then the woman says, okay, just stop.
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And like, whatever information or word or whatever you get, like, just remember that.
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And I got this like full on download of like, this is your purpose.
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Like, this is what you should be doing.
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All of these spiritual people you've met, you should be doing an event.
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And I'm thinking like, I have so much business experience.
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I, um, which I can tell you about in a minute, but like the one thing I don't have experience in is events.
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So I was just like laughing, like,
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are you serious?
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So I got all this information, like all these people you've ever, you know, taken classes from or learned from, like, I want you to bring them all together, do a conference.
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It's going to be great.
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And I'm like, holy shit, this is like a lot of information.
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So that happened, like, I don't know, now it's been like seven years and I was so overwhelmed by it.
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So I'm like, what is this?
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So I kind of put it on hold.
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I'm like, okay, when it's ready, it will come about.
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And during the pandemic,
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They really did.
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And I started out, the idea was to build like all of these online courses with different people and bring them and let people, you know, take them online.
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But since the pandemic happened, it really shifted because I realized now no one really, like everyone has had enough time on Zoom and on their computer and being solitary.
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Yeah.
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So now collective knowing is really pivoted and the idea is to do online events.
Christine's Religious Background and Family Perception
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So we're having a big event in March in person in Tucson, Arizona.
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And then I want to do a lot of mini events so people can do like a one day workshop on say breath work.
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Cause you're asking one of the different things or human design or, you know, astrology or meditate.
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Like I'm doing a meditation class for moms specifically or any parents.
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Yeah.
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I call it mama meditation cause it's better marketing, but it's for all parents.
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No, that's cute.
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I love that.
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Yeah.
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So like all the any different modality we're open to, I always just say that it has the teacher has to be very grounded.
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And that's something I kind of vet out and I talk to them about if they're a great fit and they're not grounded, then I do some work with them.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, it's really anything.
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And I really try to do a little bit of mind, body, spirit.
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So I love things that are more physical, like breath work or movement.
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I, of course, love meditation because I, you know, went to the same place.
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meditation school that we all went to um and i just try to do a little you know sometimes it's people who teach some personal development work about how to you know like own your your space in a room or more like you know inspirational speaking and different things like that oh my god that's so cool yeah and this is for all levels
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Yes.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Any experience to actually.
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Oh, no, absolutely not.
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Yeah.
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We'll have to chat after the recording because I feel like I have a bunch of people in that area.
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Oh, fantastic.
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We met when we were in Sedona.
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We went a year ago in November and we went to the Center for the New Age and we had our aura photos taken.
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And Jamie, the owner, she's the daughter of the owner, but she also owns it, too.
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She does.
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She lives in Scottsdale and she does a lot of events for like this type of.
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Oh, that's awesome.
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So, yeah, we'll talk.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, so like you went to, did you grow up like religious or, you know, spiritual?
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I know that you had these experiences, but did you grow up with any type of religious?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I grew up Lutheran.
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Well, it's funny.
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I guess I didn't grow up Lutheran.
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My mom became Christian.
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Luther is a long story.
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Basically, my grandmother was Catholic.
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She got divorced, so she got kicked out of the Catholic Church.
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So there's always this, like, animosity towards Catholics in my family.
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And my mom, my dad was Lutheran, so my mom was like, okay, we're going to be Lutheran.
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But we didn't really get into it until we were a little bit older.
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But yeah, I went through the whole...
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you know, confirmation and all that stuff.
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And I always thought, and it's so interesting because I'm noticing now, like, I always love the history of it.
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And I love learning about like the history of the Bible.
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But I always was like, there's something a little off here.
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And I didn't know what it was.
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And like, you know, no disrespect to Lutherans.
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But I don't know, just reading the Bible, I was like, I don't know.
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Like, I was
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like, there's something here.
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But it's like, I was like, there's a lot that's not explained.
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Yeah.
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So I never like I mean, I never really thought it was a conflict.
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I mean, the nice thing about the Lutheran religion, as they say, you're you're saved by faith alone.
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That's their thing.
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So it's like, yeah.
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So I'm like, OK, so I don't have to go to church.
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I don't have to do anything.
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This is all good.
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But I also had tons of friends who were different religions.
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So I always thought like, oh, this is interesting.
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But there's so much more to it.
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Yeah, how did your family, like, were they supportive of the spiritual journey?
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Because you've mentioned that you would have, like, all those downfalls and everything.
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I mean, did you ever, like, tell them?
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Oh, absolutely not.
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I did not share anything with my family at all.
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I didn't feel like they would be open to it or understand.
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So I just, it was something, and you know, that's an interesting point.
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I had no one to share it with.
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And it felt very, very confusing to me.
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And that's another reason why I wanted to start this community, because I've met so many other people like that who say, yeah, I've had these experiences.
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I had no one to talk to.
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I did have one aunt that I would sometimes, like occasionally I would see her and I could tell she was more spiritual.
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Right.
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But it's like, I mean, I only saw her a handful of times.
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So I really, I didn't know who to talk to.
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I had no idea.
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You know, this was way pre-internet.
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So, you know, I was just go and read books in the library.
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And they were pretty limited, honestly.
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You just like knew that you just had to find these resources to call almost like, not to validate your experience with it, but just to add more information to the like channeling that essentially you were getting.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that makes sense.
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Yeah.
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And then when I got a little bit older, I like would meet people and I'd get psychic readings from different people.
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And I would think like, and it was so funny, I would always say like, I would leave and I'd be really unsatisfied because I would never get new information.
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Everything they told me was like, it was nice validation, but I was like, I knew all of that already.
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Right.
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So, eventually, I was like, why am I going?
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Every time they tell me things, I already know.
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Right.
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It's hard to validate yourself from what you already knew.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you mentioned that, you know, that you have a business background.
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So, I'm just, like, curious to find out more about it.
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Did you go to school for it?
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Yeah.
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What was your work experience like that?
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Well, I feel like I always say I was raised to be an entrepreneur because my dad was super entrepreneurial.
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And every conversation we had as kids, he would say like, this would be a good business and this is why.
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Or like he would analyze businesses he saw on TV or that we would we would walk by.
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But I did work in sales for about 18 years in in high tech in the Bay Area, New York, New York.
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So I worked for a bunch of big tech companies and went through a bunch of acquisitions.
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So that's my professional experience.
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But then I've also owned like four different businesses.
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So the last like 12 years I've, or actually even before that, I had
Quiet Selling Method for Introverts
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a food business, I had a consulting business.
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Like you said, I had soulful selling, which is sales consulting.
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I have collective knowing.
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Yeah.
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So it's been a lifelong journey.
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Yeah.
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Journey.
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That's so cool.
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Yeah.
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That's so expansive.
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It is expansive.
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I come from the tech background as well, but more on like the EA side of the house.
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So like I can see like...
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how the foundation, I also have my master's in organization development because I'm just interested in how energy, energy works within teams and like the flowing of it.
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And I can see how this can be translated from a sales perspective because you're using so much energy every day to sell the product, whatever you're selling.
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And like, how do you replenish that back in yourself?
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Like how do you separate from all the people that you have to talk to every day?
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Yes.
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This is amazing.
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Like, can you talk about like, you know, that aspect of soulful selling?
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Yeah.
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If you're interested.
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Oh, totally.
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Yeah.
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So I developed this program called the quiet selling method and I'm working on getting the book published.
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But it's all about that because I, you know, I work for these big companies like Yahoo and AOL and they would send us to these really expensive companies.
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sales trainings and they were always about like kind of the tactics of selling like how do you negotiate how do you price how do you follow up no one ever talked about well what do you do when you call 20 people in a day they all say no two of them hang up on you one of you like one of them like curses you out on the phone
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Right.
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And like, you know, and then your boss is like, if you don't make a sale in the next two days, you're going to be fired.
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Right.
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Like, how do you deal with that?
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And no one ever talked about that.
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And that's literally like what every salesperson is dealing with every day.
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Like people don't understand how stressful it is.
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Kind of psychological.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And I would see people who I knew were great salespeople who emotionally could not take it.
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And they would just, and they were so good.
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And I was like, that's so interesting.
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They have all the training.
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I've seen them.
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They're a great salesperson.
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And they would just be crushed by the expectations.
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And I was like, oh, man, that sucks.
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And then I'm like, but this is really fucking hard.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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It's like emotional warfare.
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Yeah, really.
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So, yeah, I mean, and at the time I didn't, you know, now I have the tools through meditation school to explain it more like energetically.
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But I would tell people like, yeah, if someone hangs up on you on the phone or if you're just feeling down, like you got to go for a walk.
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You have to like, like you're saying separate from it.
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And that's exactly what I would tell people.
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You have to take a break.
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And then I would always tell people you have to make a list of all of the accomplishments because, you know,
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In sales, like the great thing, because this was way back when we all worked in the office, they would have a sales board, like a big whiteboard on the wall.
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And you would put all your sales for the month on there.
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So at least you could go up and look at your progress.
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And you'd be like, yes, I had a shitty day.
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But look it, I've already sold like $500,000 this month.
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I'm 80% of my quota.
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It's still going to be okay.
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And so I tell people at home, like, make a list.
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Like, I have a...
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Right now, a thank you card posted on my wall.
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I tell people, like, create a wall of, like, all of, yeah, like, all of the things that you've done and accomplishments so you can look back.
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Because when you feel crappy, you need something to motivate you and show you you actually made progress.
00:16:29
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Yeah, like a validator.
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Yeah.
00:16:31
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Yeah, yeah.
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But that is, yeah, the most of what I talk about in quiet selling, I do talk about kind of the sales tactics, but I always say selling is 80% confidence or mindset and 20% of the sales tactics because it's so much about your emotional well-being and kind of being able to deal with different personalities and then just keep yourself, keeping yourself motivated.
00:16:53
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Yeah, it's not just the black and white sales technique.
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But on that same topic, so just talking as someone that also owns a small business and is a spiritual realm of things, one of my biggest things is not, I don't know, maybe my limiting beliefs around like the sales part of it, promoting yourself.
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Because I don't want to sound like a car sales person.
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you know, type of person that's trying to push you and be like one of those people that's just, you know, really annoying trying to sell the car.
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But come up in a way that feels like you're still promoting yourself in a more like holistic way.
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So that for me, it's one of like my...
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I see things that I kind of want to like, I don't want to say like it's a hurdle, but it's something that to me, it kind of sticks out.
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Yeah.
00:17:48
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So that is exactly why I started the Quiet Selling Method, because there is this perception.
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And it's like, I don't know who came up with this used car salesman analogy, but every single person believes this, right?
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It's like something that is...
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I don't know, like in the energy of our society, and I've actually done a lot of research of like, where did this come from?
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It's a swing grain in our society.
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Yes, it really is.
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That selling and promoting yourself is somehow bad and means you're greedy or pushy or aggressive.
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That is all a complete lie.
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Like, we've all bought into that.
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And so I have a whole introduction to my book where I say like, why, like, why?
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Why was that created?
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And it's kind of, I mean, just to get like super high level, it's almost like why was religion created, right?
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It was like to, in a way to control people and get them to believe what you wanted.
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And the only people that serves to have this belief, oh, selling is pushy, is to keep the people who are in power, still in power.
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If we were all to understand, especially as women, that to be able to sell and make money is empowering and enjoyable,
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Like imagine like the difference that would make, right?
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It's like groundbreaking.
00:19:01
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But we all buy into this idea that, you know, selling, it means I'm greedy.
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It means I'm pushy.
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And that is, you know, it's just not true, right?
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There's a million things you have purchased every day that you didn't feel pushed into that you absolutely love.
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So one of the exercises I do with people, I'm like, tell me the last thing you bought that you were like was worth every single penny and that you loved buying and like, tell me about it.
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And then I tell people like, well, like what you're doing could very well be the same thing.
00:19:33
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Right.
00:19:33
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There are so that whole used car salesman experience like.
00:19:38
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is just um it's i don't see that many people actually selling that way occasionally i do but it's so rare that you even see that these days that there's not which is so funny because it's still all in our minds right we're all still like validating this idea i mean anyone who's seen willy waka you know sam volergaard here and then it's like yes violet volergaard's dad he's like selling cars in that movie and i think maybe like
00:20:02
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Right.
00:20:02
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And when was that movie, like, or that book written in, like, 1920 or something?
00:20:06
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Yeah.
00:20:07
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And then, like, the movie came out in the, I don't know, 70s.
00:20:09
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Yeah.
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And then, like, it's been popular forever.
00:20:12
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But it still perpetuates the stereotype.
00:20:14
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So it's just, like, so ingrained.
00:20:16
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It really is.
00:20:17
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It's unconscious, right?
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And it's one of those things, if you're not aware of it, you're just kind of, like, running, you know, based on that, you know, false narrative.
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Yep.
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And I catch myself, like sometimes I'm trying, you know, posting things, promoting my services, and I kind of like, I almost like I take a step back and I say, oh, maybe I sound a little too pushy.
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You know, so I kind of like, I can feel it and I see myself like holding myself back and that's not where I want to be, you know.
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It's a place where I feel like I cannot like fully express what I offer.
00:20:49
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Yeah.
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And my services.
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So, yeah, no, that's great.
00:20:53
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Yeah.
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And that's the number one thing when people take my I used to have an online class.
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But the number one thing they would say is you taught me I could sell in a different way.
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Because I realized when I first started soulful selling, it was I was just pitching it to women.
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And I realized, oh, it wasn't that I was a woman that made it different.
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It was I'm actually like an introvert.
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And I'm an introvert.
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And a lot of people think, oh, to be a salesperson, you have to be this extroverted, pushy, whatever.
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And I wrote this whole article on LinkedIn about how introverts are the best salespeople.
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And I got so much validation.
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And and then I started I did a whole class about selling for introverts.
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And people were just yeah, we're like, oh, my God, that like you taught me, it doesn't have to be that way.
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I'm like, of course it doesn't.
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Like, what made you think that?
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But then I realized everyone thinks that everyone thinks it has to be a certain way.
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So, yeah, it's like it's kind of this big energy that's out there in the world that it just needs to be knocked down because it's like everyone gives it so much power.
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This idea that selling is this way.
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But when you think about it, it's like selling means you're making money and you're empowering yourself.
00:21:58
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Right.
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And you're attracting and allowing yourself to receive abundance.
00:22:01
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Yes.
00:22:02
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Yeah.
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On a deeper level.
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And maybe there's like, you know, blocks.
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And I have, you know, we all have blocks.
00:22:07
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We all have limiting beliefs around abundance or certain aspects of abundance, whether it's like money or love or whatever, whatever you're trying to call in.
00:22:16
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Like, you know, through your own process of manifesting not only this business, but like, you know, the smaller things like your cute cat that we just met.
00:22:26
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Mm-hmm.
00:22:27
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How do you go?
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What is your typical routine?
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Like, what is a day in the life of Christine look like?
00:22:33
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Oh, God.
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Because I know you're a mama.
00:22:36
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Yeah, I'm a mom, but I'm also not a very regimented person.
00:22:42
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That's okay.
00:22:42
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Like, you don't have to be.
00:22:44
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Yeah.
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So I would say, you know, it depends.
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My kids are with me half the time.
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But yeah, if I have kids, it's like I'm getting up, I'm getting them ready.
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Yeah.
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And then it's kind of like, I just try to prioritize.
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I mean, I, in the last, I would say five years have really changed.
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I used to be, when I worked in the corporate world, so overworked and so structured.
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And once I got out of that about eight years ago, it was like, I think I needed like two years to deprogram myself.
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Because I was so bought into this, hey, you have to work at this time, you have to be busy, you have to put in all this effort.
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And I just have completely, I wouldn't say I'm completely deprogrammed, but I've just thrown all of that out.
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So I kind of get up, I'm like, what do I feel like doing today?
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I love it.
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And a lot of times people are waiting for my email.
00:23:28
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Right.
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And that's okay.
00:23:30
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But I mean, I used to get like thousands of, not thousands, but hundreds of emails that I didn't even need to respond to.
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And now I'm like, you know what?
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I don't need to respond to this.
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And I can completely ignore this if I want to.
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You know, I obviously prioritize if I have, you know, money making things that are in progress.
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I have to get back to that.
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But yeah, I kind of try to...
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Do some kind of meditation.
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I try to catch up on emails.
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I make sure my kids stuff is taken care of.
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You know, I do have like a very specific workout routine because it involves like, you know, being social with my friends and that's my accountability.
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So, yeah, I don't know.
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I don't have a schedule.
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We love that.
00:24:11
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I think it also validates people that are also just as busy as you, being a parent or having a business or just have to work 9 to 5 and just trying to function as a human being can be very challenging.
00:24:25
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But I'm also curious, like, is your family also, like, supportive of your spiritual
Developing Mediumship Abilities
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journey?
00:24:30
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Or do they also follow that?
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I wouldn't say they're not supportive, but I wouldn't say they're super aware.
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You know, I don't think that they're... Some people... I don't try to push anything on anyone.
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That's a big thing.
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Even my family, I would never say, hey, you have to do this.
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I mean, I've told them about what things that I do and...
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I wouldn't say there's like a ton of interest.
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So I'm just like, hey, when you're ready, if you have questions, you can come ask me.
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Same with my friends.
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Like I have some friends who are really interested in it and love to talk about it.
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And some friends who have zero interest.
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And I'm like, okay, sure.
00:25:07
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You're, you know, wherever you're at is fine.
00:25:10
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I just really, like, that's really the thing that I loved about the school we attended is, you know, kind of being neutral, not having judgment to me was just a huge, huge lesson.
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Especially,
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Growing up in a place like New Jersey where I would say it's a little judgmental.
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They like things a certain way.
00:25:28
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Yes.
00:25:29
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It's a certain mindset.
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It is.
00:25:32
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Yeah.
00:25:32
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But yeah.
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But yeah.
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So I just don't try to push it on anyone.
00:25:37
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But I also don't probably overly share with people who I have a feeling are not going to be open to it anyway.
00:25:43
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yeah i'm the same way too you know if people want to talk they know who to come to right it's kind of that's that thing you know yeah yeah i'm very open i'm like you know if i find but maybe i gravitate towards people who are in the space like yeah i feel comfortable and i can just be like oh they might be down to listen to me talk and then you know i'm if i'm at like a party where i'm like i don't know what the vibe is like and then maybe i'll be like
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And then kind of suss it out.
00:26:10
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Right.
00:26:10
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Like, I'm not going to, like, dump or, you know, trauma dump on people.
00:26:13
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Yeah, yeah.
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I do.
00:26:14
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Yeah, that's funny.
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Sometimes if I'm really bored at a party, I'll just be like, yeah, so I'm psychic.
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So, yeah.
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Like, just to mix it up because I'm bored.
00:26:23
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Right.
00:26:23
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That is probably a great conversation topic.
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But I will say, last time I did that, a woman's husband had just passed.
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And then he was, like, in my space.
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And I ended up doing a reading for her.
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So I was like, oh, be careful what you say.
00:26:35
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Sometimes people need to, like, hear...
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things when they need to.
00:26:39
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Yeah.
00:26:39
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I mean, I, that was very, you know, I think that was meant to happen.
00:26:43
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And then I did a beautiful reading for him.
00:26:45
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And the spirit wouldn't come in if it wasn't appropriate.
00:26:48
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Right.
00:26:48
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Yeah.
00:26:48
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Because I don't think spirit comes just because he just wanted to hang out and chill and party with you.
00:26:53
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I think it comes with a very specific purpose.
00:26:55
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Yeah.
00:26:56
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So, but that's amazing that you're open to facilitate a communication.
00:27:00
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Yeah.
00:27:00
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Yeah.
00:27:01
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I don't always feel like I have a choice, but.
00:27:03
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Yeah.
00:27:04
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Yeah.
00:27:05
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So have you always been able to do like, would you say that you are a medium or?
00:27:09
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Yeah.
00:27:10
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Okay.
00:27:10
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Have you always been a medium since you were like little or when did it activate?
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I think I was, but I blocked it out because it like, again, scared the shit out of me.
00:27:20
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Oh, yeah.
00:27:21
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It's different.
00:27:22
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Yeah.
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And I didn't know what it was.
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So I think, yeah, looking back, I was.
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And I didn't really understand it.
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Or I wasn't even open to it, I would say, until I finished my meditation school.
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Or no, actually, no, that's not true.
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It was like kind of halfway through.
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And I was like, oh, sometimes when I do these readings, like it's a different resonance.
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So I could feel the difference.
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And then I would have like, yeah, different experiences.
00:27:48
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Oh, no, actually, now I'm thinking it was before that because I lived in a house that had a really strong being in it that was like kind of bothering everyone in our house.
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And then I learned weirdly that my aunt is a medium.
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And it was like the one aunt.
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My mom has seven brothers and sisters.
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And so she was the one aunt.
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I didn't really know that well.
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And then my mom said, oh, by the way, you should like talk to your aunt Janet because she like does this kind of stuff.
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And then I learned so much from her.
00:28:15
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Was she the aunt that you mentioned earlier?
00:28:17
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Like who you would talk to?
00:28:18
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No, it was a different aunt.
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But yeah, it was funny.
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It's amazing.
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It does.
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I mean, that's why you guys pick to be in the same little family.
00:28:27
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Yeah, yeah.
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So it's really interesting.
00:28:29
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That's so cool.
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Yeah.
00:28:30
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So then I did know.
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And then again, it freaked me out.
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But then now I have tools where I'm like, okay, now I know how to manage it.
00:28:36
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Yeah.
Balancing Intuition and Analytics in Business
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So.
00:28:37
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Yeah.
00:28:39
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Would you mind talking about, like, some of the tools that you use when you are getting information from, like, you know, an energetic space or, like, the astral plane, wherever you typically pick up information or people who approach you, people who have died, like…
00:28:54
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Yeah.
00:28:54
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Yeah.
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I mean, the biggest thing is I try to make sure I'm grounded first because for me, they make me feel a little bit dizzy.
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Yeah.
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And they're like kind of especially I remember at the party, he was like right up in my space.
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I'm like, whoa, back the fuck off.
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because it was, I was like, I can't even, you're like in my space, I'm getting really dizzy.
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So I just, I try to ground, I try to protect my aura.
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And then I kind of try to have a little conversation, like, okay, like, I hear, like, I see you, I hear you.
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Like, I'm going to get back to you later.
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Like, we're going to plan this and then you can come.
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But then I've had other times when I've had like non-human,
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beings like kind of come in um for some reason i have an affinity for doing readings for land and homes and so i'll get these really interesting you know sometimes energies that come in um that want to communicate or want me to tell the person something about the land or something about the the history of the land or what's on the land or something like that yeah which is kind of random i don't and that one i'm still trying to figure out but basically yes i try to really ground i try to protect my aura i try to um yeah like set um
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Kind of like, yeah, parameters of like, hey, here's when I'm open.
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Here's what I'm not.
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And like a strategy.
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Yes.
00:30:13
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Yeah, exactly.
00:30:14
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And then when I'm done, I definitely do a big separation process and try to energetically separate from them, you know, by setting the intention and then, you know, kind of visualizing separating from them.
00:30:24
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Oh, that's really cool.
00:30:25
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Yeah.
00:30:25
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So from your past experiences, did you have the same experiences?
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Like, you know, imagine you work in corporate organizations and so on.
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Did you experience also those, like, the psychic abilities?
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Would they also... I did.
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I remember one... How did you, like, integrate all that?
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Because you're, like, in a very analytical world.
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Yeah.
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And then you kind of, like...
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Yeah, I mean, I really looked at it as intuition, but I do remember one specific job where I had a boss who was interviewing me.
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And I was like, man, I feel like I know her.
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Like, and I had I started I was in this kind of past life regression group that I loved.
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And that was actually even before I did meditation school.
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So I was doing all these past life regressions and I realized I was really good at it.
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And it just came really easily to me.
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But I remember meeting her and seeing her and looking at her.
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And I was like, I know you already.
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You're so familiar.
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And then I would have these like little visions of her.
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And it was really interesting because I had such an affinity for her when I first got when I first got hired.
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After working with her, she was really not a pleasant person.
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And then I saw like all these past lives with her and what kind of like happened.
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And I, but at the same time, I felt like there was, there was a reason why I went through that job and there was, yeah.
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And it was like, I, yeah, like I really appreciate the job and the experience with her because I learned things about myself that I needed to learn.
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I wouldn't say they were the most pleasant, but, but it was interesting.
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But I do remember having that feeling.
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And I remember taking that job because I was like, there's something about this person that's so familiar that
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And I feel like I'm meant to take this job because I had a choice of two jobs at that time.
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And I was like, no, this person, I know her.
00:32:09
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Yeah.
00:32:09
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Like it feels so familiar.
00:32:11
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Yeah.
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And I don't remember saying that to anyone, but I do remember that.
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And then I remember vice versa a couple of years after that, there was a job that I was so I was like, this doesn't feel right.
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I was like, and it was like I had agreed to it.
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And that start date was like, for some reason, like three weeks later.
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And I remember I kept telling my husband at the time, I was like, something's off.
00:32:30
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And he was like, no, I let him kind of talk me into it.
00:32:32
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Yeah.
00:32:32
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He was like, no, you're just, you know, worried about it.
00:32:35
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And I was like, no, I really think something's off.
00:32:37
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And I ended up taking it and it ended up being a total flop.
00:32:40
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Like I had to quit after like three months because it was a disaster.
00:32:43
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Yeah.
00:32:44
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But it was so many like, you know, I just kind of chalked it up to intuition and thought like, yeah, but I didn't, I didn't do more than that.
Engaging with Collective Knowing
00:32:51
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I just thought like, okay, maybe I'll let it like kind of guide me a little bit, but I was still pretty resistant.
00:32:55
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Yeah, I feel like I do the same because I'm interviewing now or looking for a new job and I'm like, oh, like, if it feels like bad, like, or my gut's telling me like, oh, girl, this ain't for you, you know, like, it'll be very clear.
00:33:11
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Like, this sounds crazy.
00:33:13
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And then like, I was in a situation in like,
00:33:17
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Last year, I was, I moved into HR, and then I got laid off in October.
00:33:21
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And then I'm like, okay, I'll just go back to being an EA.
00:33:23
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It's easy.
00:33:24
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And then I, like, had a choice of two different EA jobs, and, like, both of them didn't really fully feel correct, but I just, like, was in a position of, like, I just need a job.
00:33:34
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And then you take the job and you really learn like why you should trust your intuition.
00:33:40
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Yes, exactly.
00:33:41
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This place is crazy.
00:33:42
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Yeah.
00:33:43
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You learn the hard way sometimes.
00:33:45
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:33:46
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But it's growing through it.
00:33:47
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Yeah.
00:33:47
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But you still learn a lesson.
00:33:49
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Yeah.
00:33:49
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From all of this.
00:33:51
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So how can we get involved or how can people listening get involved with collective knowing?
00:33:57
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Yeah, so you can go to the Collective Knowing website, collectivenowing.com, and there's some information there.
00:34:03
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We are doing workshops, like I am doing this mom's meditation group.
00:34:07
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I'm going to do a couple other workshops.
00:34:09
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And then we have this big event coming up in March.
00:34:12
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And then I'm going to try to be doing some local Bay Area events that are a little bit smaller because the big event in Tucson is over three days.
00:34:22
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And yeah, you can just kind of follow us on social media at Collective Knowing.com.
00:34:27
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um on instagram or facebook or kind of any any place every every place and are tickets on sale yet for that event i am just we just rescheduled it so it was originally supposed to be in october so they are not um they should be on set but maybe by the time this goes live but in the next week or so oh
00:34:44
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Oh, yeah, that's exciting.
00:34:45
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We're just rescheduling it and getting the accommodations.
00:34:48
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The cool thing is that, and what I want with all of these events is I want people really connected to nature.
00:34:53
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So at this specific area, it's in Tucson at a place where they don't have hotel rooms.
00:34:57
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So we're doing really beautiful glamping tents.
00:34:59
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Mm-hmm.
00:35:00
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And that's what we're waiting on because I want people to be super connected with nature.
00:35:04
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And that's why I think I might do all of the events in the future like this where people are like sleeping outside and like connected to the earth.
00:35:12
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And there's like not good cell reception.
00:35:14
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And they're just like, you have to be there in nature and disconnect because I know...
00:35:18
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When I worked in the corporate world, I just could not disconnect.
00:35:22
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It was like almost impossible.
00:35:25
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And I just look back and I think that's what people really need is just like for a weekend to completely disconnect from technology, from all of the craziness, from all of that, just to like get away from that is such a gift.
00:35:37
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Yeah.
00:35:37
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Um, like my son goes to the sleepaway camp out in, um, Lake Tahoe and they have no cell phone, nothing for two weeks.
00:35:44
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And it's like all of the kids say like the best thing about it is that they're just, yeah, yeah.
00:35:50
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And they're out in nature.
00:35:51
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Yeah.
00:35:51
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Out in the water and the trees, hiking, doing fun stuff.
00:35:55
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I'm like adults need that.
00:35:57
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I mean, I wish we could do it for two weeks.
00:35:58
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Oh, yeah.
00:35:59
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Or even for like a summer vacation, right?
00:36:01
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Yeah.
00:36:02
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Kids go to summer camps.
00:36:03
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I would like that for adults where we go away from like two, three months, like out there.
00:36:08
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Yeah.
00:36:09
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Oh, that's a great idea.
00:36:10
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Just like being ourselves.
00:36:11
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I'm like, my only kids get that.
00:36:13
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I think that's a good.
00:36:14
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How come the grownups?
00:36:16
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Because, you know, I was always very kind of old.
00:36:19
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You know, because they used to work as like a babysitter and a nanny and the kids would go off to like this like camps.
00:36:24
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They sound amazing.
00:36:26
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And they do all this fun stuff.
00:36:28
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And I'm like, I wish there was something for grownups.
00:36:31
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How come we can't have these things anymore?
00:36:34
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And I get it.
00:36:35
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You know, we do have responsibilities and all that stuff, but it would be kind of nice.
00:36:39
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Okay.
00:36:39
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That's, you know, so just throw an idea.
00:36:41
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That's a good idea for future collective knowing.
00:36:44
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And that actually was always my idea.
00:36:46
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Like I'd love to do retreats because I want to kind of design the business that I would love to have.
00:36:50
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And I love to travel.
00:36:51
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So maybe we'll have to do a week long retreat.
00:36:54
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Yeah, there's more to come.
00:36:56
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Yeah, we can have adult summer camp.
00:36:59
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Oh, that would be amazing.
00:37:01
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I would join her in a heartbeat.
00:37:02
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Yeah.
00:37:03
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00:37:10
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00:37:14
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00:37:15
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00:37:16
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00:37:28
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00:37:28
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00:37:30
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00:37:34
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00:37:50
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00:37:51
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Yeah.
00:37:52
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00:38:00
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00:38:03
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00:38:05
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