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Episode 39: Twin Flame: Exploring the Allure, Dangers and Escaping Twin Flames Universe Documentary
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A twin flame is a concept that promotes an intense and powerful soul connection between individuals, also called mirror cells. They function like a spiritual mirror that reflects each other's strengths, weaknesses, past traumas, and vulnerabilities.
In this episode, we delve into the enigmatic world of twin flames and the potentially destructive allure they hold. We explore the documentary "Escaping Twin Flames" on Netflix, shedding light on the dangerous influence of cult-like groups and the impact of toxic relationships on individuals. We share our perspectives on finding soulmates and the romanticized portrayal of Twin Flames, while also uncovering unsettling revelations about a group called Twin Flames Universe.
Today, you will gain insights into the alleged exploitative practices of Twin Flames Universe, where concerns of high control, coercive behavior, and financial manipulation come to light. We also share other documentaries that are like Twin Flames that you need to watch.
Looking at the current trend, we'll bring to your attention why you need to be more self-aware to avoid falling into the traps of these malicious people. We've noted with a lot of concern how cunning they can be. Listen to learn more.
Key Talking Points of the Episode:
[04:57] Documentary about former group members' alleged cult experience: "Escaping Twin Flames"
[06:41] Coercion to undergo gender reaffirmation surgery by the Twin Flames Founders
[11:09] How people are being manipulated and exploited
[12:51] Seeking a partner, manipulation, and blind trust
[17:44] Twin Flames concept from Greek mythology resonates now
[24:27] Our heartfelt concern for those affected by tragedy
[29:07] The dangers of deep involvement in routine
[34:03] Trust your vibes when looking for a partner
Note: This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only
Resources:
Desperately Seeking Soulmate: Escaping Twin Flames Universe Documentary
Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
NXVIM: The Vow
Recommended
Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Overview
00:00:05
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Welcome to Psychic Girls Next Door.
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We are your hosts, Lily Hibarino and Shannon Miller.
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This podcast is for all spirituality enthusiasts and psychics next door to share tools, experiences, and spiritual practices that align with your highest vibrational self.
00:00:21
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Well, happy 2024, everyone.
00:00:23
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So in this episode, we want to, you know, chat a little bit about how our new year is going so far.
00:00:33
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I know we're just like a few weeks in, but we also want to talk about the concept of Twin Flames because you and I were chatting the other day about this documentary that's on Netflix called Scaping Twin Flames.
00:00:48
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It's so good.
What are Twin Flames?
00:00:49
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Oh my gosh, there's a lot to unpack from this documentary.
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So we're going to also dive in into that as we start talking about twin flames.
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So basically a twin flame, it's this concept that promotes like an intense and powerful soul connection between two individuals, which is also called mirror souls.
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So they like function like a spiritual mirror that reflects each other's strengths, weaknesses, past traumas and vulnerabilities.
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So it's based on the idea that sometimes that one soul that gets split into two bodies.
00:01:33
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Yeah, like you can only find that one.
00:01:36
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It's like the same.
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It's like a copy, right?
00:01:38
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Yeah, it's basically like the exact match.
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Right, right.
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No, it's kind of... I mean, take it with a grain of salt, folks.
00:01:48
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I personally love the idea of finding my soulmate one day and creating a life with them.
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And I find that...
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very romantic, but I also romanticize everything.
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So, like, and there are a lot of people who also romanticize this concept of finding your person, finding your soulmate, or finding your twin flame.
Impact of 'Scaping Twin Flames' on Single Women
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And the documentary, if you haven't seen it, you know, precursor, we might share some spoilers.
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So, if you want to pause and come back to the episode, go for the gold to watch that, you know, docuseries.
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But,
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Basically, like, I feel like they take advantage of a lot of single women who may have been feeling lonely and want to know how to find their twin flame or how to develop a connection.
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And then it just goes completely off the rails.
00:02:42
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Yeah, well, it's interesting because, by the way, so this documentary, it's available on Netflix.
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So I don't know if Netflix is available all over the world, but we'll leave a link in the show notes.
00:02:54
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So basically, it's centered on this thing called Twin Flames Universe, right?
00:02:59
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Yeah.
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And if you Google, it's still active.
00:03:04
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I mean, and it seems like it's pretty popular.
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This is not an ad to join.
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No, not at all.
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So this is just our opinion.
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So allegedly, we just want to put this out there.
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So this is just for informational purposes.
Twin Flames Universe: A Spiritual Business
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So it's basically like this group that was founded by this couple called Jeff and Shayla.
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Ayan or Ayan, I can't remember how it's spelled.
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And so it basically started off because Shalaya, actually she used to work with like healing, healing services.
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And she did like tarot.
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And then Jeff, when they met, they kind of like, he kind of saw a business opportunity into it.
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I mean, he's an opera tenist, for sure.
00:03:49
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Yeah, because I think he did have, like, some business, like, degrees.
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So he kind of worked by sales.
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So for him, it was, like, the perfect match.
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So, and then they went into, like, I want to say, quote, unquote, the healing business.
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Right.
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Where they would offer, like, coaching for people because they want to, like, showcase, like, their own themselves as, like, the perfect concept.
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couple and again allegedly they are apparently twin flames they are the twin flames so it's possible so if we did it yeah so you can also find it um so i also saw it online uh so it says that their facebook group currently has about 60 60 000 members yes can you believe that also i saw on instagram because i that's the person that i am i dig into other social medias
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It has over 30,000 people that follows them also on Instagram on themselves.
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So that's kind of like how this whole thing started.
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And then what happens is that, and you can even go on the website, they offer courses.
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Expensive courses.
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Very expensive.
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It goes from hundreds of dollars to a few thousands of dollars.
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And you can also can become a coach.
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Yeah.
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And you actually get to meet the coaches in the documentary because they are the ones that actually left the group.
Ex-Members Reveal Cult-like Practices
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And they go on to talk about their stories.
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So basically, this documentary showcases, you know, former people that were part of this and how there's this concern that it's a cult.
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Right.
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So allegedly, it's like a cult.
00:05:30
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High control group, for sure.
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Pretty much.
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As you watch it and, you know, you watch the videos of, what's his name again?
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Jeff, right?
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Jeff talking with Shayla.
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It's just like, it's so awkward.
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Some of the things that he says are just terrible to people.
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He's very abrasive.
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And abusive.
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Yeah, very abusive.
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He like, you know, when people are talking about how difficult it is or they're having difficulties in their relationship, he kind of mocks them.
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He's just, well, suck it up.
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Like, you just got to do it.
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Yeah, so it's like, well, you're not doing the work.
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So they call it like, well, what is this?
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So they call it the mirror exercise, right?
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Like in the documentary.
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So like, what is this person mirroring to you?
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Right, right.
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Like, whether it be their...
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you know, the toxic behavior patterns and so on and so forth.
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And the thing is that he basically coerces people to believe that that's their perfect match.
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Right.
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And that's the only way.
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Yeah.
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And it doesn't matter if this other person is not available.
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Right.
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Right.
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Or the same gender, if you're not attracted to the same gender as you, because a lot of like later on, like you just find out that essentially they were forcing people to go into like getting, you know,
00:07:03
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reaffirm, gender reaffirmation of, like, you know, basically changing your gender from female to, from assigned female at birth to identifying as, like, a masculine and, like, in a very, like, literal way where they would have the gender reaffirming surgery and become, you know, a man, essentially.
00:07:25
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And, like, maybe there were some people who genuinely wanted to do that.
00:07:28
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I, like, applaud them for, like, having that supportive environment.
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But,
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a lot of the people who speak did they were like no i'm a woman like i you know assigned female at birth but i identify as a woman and they were still trying to convince a lot of these women that another woman assigned female at birth and a woman's current identifying woman were their twin flame and in twin flames there's the concept of like the masculine and the feminine and like of course we all have masculine and feminine regardless of gender
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But there's like they like played on that and people were already so vulnerable from the types of communication methods that they were providing in the program and making people feel very small and almost like worthless.
Exploitation and Ethical Concerns
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Yeah, I didn't have their twin flame.
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And then all these people were probably like, what the hell?
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Where's my twin flame?
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I've been doing all this work.
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I've been paying all this money.
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And then I think they came up with the concept of like, let's just like make, you know, make up that someone in the group is their twin flame.
00:08:35
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Yeah.
00:08:35
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Well, he keeps everything in the group.
00:08:37
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Oh, yeah.
00:08:38
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So he assigns people to be your twin flame.
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So the thing with Jeff is that he doesn't believe like in, you know, other sexual preferences.
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So for him, you either like...
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female or male and there's nothing outside of that and his god is like very much i i think you know i am a god sort of uh energy that he projects onto people to manipulate people like to the point where he says that he thinks he's the incarnation of jesus he's a narcissist like
00:09:14
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Well, he's from 1,000% in our sense.
00:09:16
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When he said that, I almost fell off my chair because, and the thing is that he's like working to look like Jesus, like as we perceive in the Western world, like he grew his hair and, you know, he's a white man, but he's not Jewish, by the way.
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Ah.
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I'm just saying that out there, you know, but he claims he is the next incarnation of Jesus.
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So therefore, he's a prophet.
00:09:38
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And so whatever he says, that's how it goes, right?
00:09:42
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And then he even goes into like, say, like how he forced himself into his wife.
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at one point I almost like admitting rape I got sick when he said that and she's just like sitting like in the background kind of like docile very like submissive and like a sleeve I would say like well it's like Stockholm syndrome pretty much and you look at her energy and like this poor woman got matched with a kind of a predator and it's just it's so cringy I was rolling my eyes when I was kind of like watching this I mean what
00:10:16
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The most awful is that, like, there was this one girl where she became a coach, and they kept, like, manipulating her into think that this guy that lived in a different state was her twin flame, and that guy was older, much older than her, and she was quite young.
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She was not even, like, you know, 20.
00:10:33
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The older girl in Utah.
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Yeah.
00:10:35
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Yeah, exactly.
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And then this guy had mental issues.
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He was abusive.
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He was violent.
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And then they're like, no, that's your twin flame.
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So she kind of like, okay, force herself to live with this man, was in a very abusive relationship.
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And they kept telling her, no, this is your twin flame.
00:10:55
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So it's kind of like a little bit of a brainwash too.
00:10:57
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Yeah.
00:10:57
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And if you don't follow what they're saying, they're like, well, then you need to then level up, right?
00:11:03
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So you need to buy this course.
00:11:04
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Spend money.
00:11:05
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Spend more money coaching with this other person, or you need to do this meditation.
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Insane.
00:11:13
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And they, like, stream it from, like, it's all, like, over Zoom, I'm guessing, or some video platform.
00:11:21
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And you see, like, as time goes on, their house gets nicer.
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Like, she's rocking, like, all these designer bags.
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And he's talking about all these fancy things.
00:11:33
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Like, you know, opulence, right?
00:11:35
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Like, and, like, these poor...
00:11:37
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People are paying for their opulence and they don't even realize or I hope now that some people realize like they're paying thousands of dollars to get garbage information.
00:11:49
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I have strong opinions about this, so I'm sorry if I'm triggering someone.
00:11:53
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But this is like where you don't own.
00:11:56
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This is a sign of like when you don't own your information and if you don't have boundaries, if you're so open to like try to manifest something and like that's where you can be super vulnerable to other people's information.
00:12:11
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So it's a it's a cautionary tale.
00:12:13
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Absolutely.
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And I'm glad that our documentaries like this out there to really expose information.
00:12:20
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What is going on in these groups?
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Because some of them are pretty closed off.
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And I had no idea about this, you know, until I actually saw this documentary that was like on the top 10.
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And I was like, okay, now I need to watch.
00:12:33
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And people were like...
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asking me like oh have you seen this document like okay now i need to see it yeah i need to watch it and kind of make my own uh decisions and you know my own information about it well what it is is that they prey on people's uh you know vulnerable states insecurity security you know like about themselves that aren't true if you're single you kind of like you know i'm looking to find a partner or be in a relationship so they take advantage of all your um
00:13:05
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All your problems, your traumas, your issues.
00:13:07
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And you don't have like someone that claimed to be like a psychologist or whatever that work, I guess, for the military that came in and was supposed to like, quote unquote, help people.
00:13:19
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So it's like manipulating people, you know, telling how broken they are and therefore getting them to, because then it means like when you manipulate people, you put them in a state where whatever you tell them, they're going to do it.
00:13:35
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Yeah.
00:13:35
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Right.
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Doesn't matter if it's right or wrong.
00:13:38
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They're just going to like blindly trusting the guru here.
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Yeah.
00:13:41
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So it's a lot of like this guru.
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Yeah.
00:13:44
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So it's like this guru mentality.
00:13:47
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So you and you see like and there's all the coaches, right?
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Because the coaches apparently they have like a quota.
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So they need to bring more, recruit more people.
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And so the more people they can get to buy more courses.
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So there's like this.
00:14:00
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Yeah.
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There's a hierarchy, I think, with the coaches as well.
00:14:05
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I guess the more money you make, the higher you kind of like up, you know, within the company.
00:14:11
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Based on Scientology.
00:14:12
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Pretty much.
00:14:13
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I mean, I don't think it's like that far from any of those codes that you hear about.
00:14:20
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Yeah, if you've seen the documentary about Scientology, I think it's called Going Clear.
00:14:25
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It's usually, I think it's on HBO or maybe Max has the content now, but it's just fascinating.
00:14:32
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And then, is it Leah Remini?
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Yeah.
00:14:35
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Yeah, she has another, like, docuseries on another platform.
00:14:39
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But it sounds like, I mean, every high control group, there's all these like layers.
00:14:44
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It's very hierarchical, like the structure.
00:14:46
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There's all these rules.
00:14:48
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And like for people who are super vulnerable or insecure and like haven't formed their own information, they are going to, it's almost like a moth to the flame.
00:15:01
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Yeah.
00:15:01
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Yeah, they're gonna fly in and be like, ooh, what's this shiny new thing?
00:15:05
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I need community.
00:15:07
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I need someone to guide me because I don't know how to do that myself.
00:15:12
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And I think they get caught up in that whole, like, idea of someone else knowing more than them and not trusting their own information.
00:15:20
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Yeah, absolutely.
00:15:22
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And also psychologically, too.
00:15:24
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That's how they get, you know, all those people.
00:15:28
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Some of these, you know, some of the people that were interviewed, they were even like sent to jail because one, I think one of the girls, she was stalking someone.
00:15:42
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Yes, the one in San Francisco.
00:15:43
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Yeah, exactly.
00:15:44
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And then the guy filed a restraining order against her and she ended up, you know,
00:15:50
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being put away because of that.
00:15:52
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So it has like ruined a lot of people's lives, you know, because they are also, you know, I think with any cult, they want you to really keep it as close as possible from the outside and closed from the outside world.
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So there's a lot of them are like,
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estranged from their family members
Twin Flames vs. Healthy Relationships
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uh you know they cut off relationships uh and it's they have drained their bank accounts god going into you know this universe right right it's so sad it's just like i hope that those people who are still part of it can like figure out like
00:16:33
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There are other ways of believing things and information and there's other ways of thinking and living your life.
00:16:41
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And like, you know, if you're looking for love, like, don't look for it there.
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Jesus.
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Like, it's so terrible.
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Yeah, they're just like looking for...
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an answer like someone to like tell you like no this is this is the person right here you know just kind of yeah just kind of give you like in a prescription box like this is this is it and and it does it's i wish yeah things would be just as easy like you go to a grocery store like you pick out a man out of the shovel this has these qualities and
00:17:16
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Well, what's scary to me is a lot of people justifying twin flame concept with staying in toxic, unhealthy relationships, like saying, well, but I am working my karma or my past lives with this person.
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And I'm like, oh my gosh, no.
00:17:37
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That is not what a healthy relationship is.
00:17:41
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This is just so messed up, you know, that people use this to justify staying in a healthy relationship.
00:17:48
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Yeah.
00:17:49
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And I like the mythology that you added.
00:17:52
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Lily did all this great research around Twin Flames.
00:17:55
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Thank you.
00:17:56
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But essentially, like, there's the concept, like, goes back to Greek mythology, where humans originally had a head with two faces, two pairs of arms, two pairs of legs, and then Zeus feared their power and split them into two separate parts.
00:18:11
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And the pair spends their lives in search for their other half.
00:18:15
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And I feel like this is still kind of like that resonates with what's happening now.
00:18:22
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Like that energy of like people just searching for their other half.
00:18:26
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Like you hear it in Hallmark, you know, cards and movies.
00:18:29
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And like there's this constant like need for and search for your partner, your person, the love of your life.
00:18:36
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Like the one, the one.
00:18:38
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Like why does there only have to be one?
00:18:40
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Yeah, I mean, this is just, you know, I roll my eyes when I read all this stuff.
00:18:47
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But basically, this twin flame notion, it was coined and popularized by Elizabeth Clare Prophet in the 1970s.
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So she's the leader and founder of an international New Age religious organization called the Church, Universal and Triumphant, CUT.
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So she wrote a book called
00:19:07
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about the concept of twin flames and that just kind of like took off and then as you know kind of with new age spirituality people like tweaked and manipulated to kind of like work for them right aka the twin flame university but i also think that a lot of this concept kind of also seeped into a religion and
00:19:30
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You know, like how, oh, if you don't find your other half or if you don't, you know, get into a relationship, you're going to be punished.
00:19:43
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You're not good enough.
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You're not whole.
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You're not complete without a partner.
00:19:47
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And that to me where it differentiates from a soulmate.
00:19:49
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Right.
00:19:50
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Right.
00:19:50
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You know, because a soulmate, I think that's belief.
00:19:52
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It's someone that just completes you.
00:19:54
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Right.
00:19:55
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And I believe that soulmates, we have several soulmates.
00:19:57
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Oh, totally.
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Throughout our lives.
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You
Soulmates vs. Twin Flames
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know, we are soulmates.
00:19:59
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We are soulmates.
00:20:00
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Soul sisters.
00:20:01
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Yeah.
00:20:02
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So you probably have a lot of soulmates, too, through your friends, family, people that you interact, you know, or interact with.
00:20:10
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And that can, like, be perceived differently.
00:20:12
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on such an individual basis because perception is reality, right?
00:20:16
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Like my perception of my soulmates are going to be like slight different in variation from your soulmates because it's your personal experience with it.
00:20:26
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But I like, you know, I like the idea of having multiple soulmates and I think you can, you know, you set the rules for what that means for you, right?
00:20:35
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Like, because it's your information and if you resonate with a concept that
00:20:40
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I think that's the scariest part is like a lot of people have resonated with this like work, whether it's the Twin Flame book from Elizabeth Clare, the prophet, or whether it's from this like, you know, high control mind, you know, mind control group around Twin Flames universe.
Why Do People Join Groups Like Twin Flames Universe?
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But I think it also shows you like this epic epidemic of loneliness.
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Disconnection.
00:21:03
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Yes.
00:21:04
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Yeah.
00:21:04
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Yeah.
00:21:05
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Well, especially in the last four years.
00:21:08
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Oh, for sure.
00:21:08
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I think worldwide, we were very isolated.
00:21:11
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Oh, absolutely.
00:21:12
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And if people lived alone, like, then it just, like, amplified.
00:21:16
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Well, yeah.
00:21:17
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And then you see that.
00:21:17
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Imagine, like, you know, you're online.
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Then you see this ad pop up.
00:21:21
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Oh, like, yeah, this looks fun.
00:21:23
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This looks interesting.
00:21:24
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Oh, my gosh.
00:21:24
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This is the answer, you know, to my problems.
00:21:27
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Right.
00:21:27
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And then you click in and they have, like, a very appealing...
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website, you know, the sales pitch, we'll try this for free.
00:21:37
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And then, you know, you get a coach that contacts you.
00:21:40
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So there's, you know, there's a lot, they're very smart as far as also with their marketing.
00:21:45
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And apparently the, you know, the producers from the documentary also, they reached out, you know, to the founders, but, you know, they, they state that they are not a coach and they're abiding with, you know,
00:22:01
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all the laws and everything else.
00:22:02
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And apparently, I guess now he's founding a church.
00:22:06
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Oh, God.
00:22:06
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So he can be, of course, exempt from tax.
00:22:09
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And he bought a plot of land.
00:22:14
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Oh, yeah, because he wants to actually build an actual church.
00:22:17
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I mean, a community, I think.
00:22:19
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So he can actually be... Where people live there.
00:22:22
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Live there, and then you can even manipulate and control people even easier.
00:22:27
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We all know why he bought that plot of land.
00:22:29
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Like, yeah.
00:22:29
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Yeah.
00:22:30
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No, it's just scary.
00:22:32
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It is scary.
00:22:33
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It's scary how like there people can get away with these things and like by harming people mentally and physically.
00:22:42
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And it just it really bothers me.
00:22:45
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Yeah, it's quite traumatic.
00:22:48
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Also, just to have to go through that stuff.
00:22:53
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Because, you know, when someone takes advantage of you.
00:22:56
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Yeah.
00:22:56
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When you're in a more vulnerable state, it's just very traumatic.
00:23:02
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And I, you know, and it pisses me off.
00:23:06
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Right.
00:23:07
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For sure.
00:23:08
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It pisses me off to see people doing this and getting away with it.
00:23:11
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Right.
00:23:12
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This is what really pisses me off because in a lot of, you know, and I think, I don't know if in the end of the documentary, yeah.
00:23:19
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They mentioned something about if they were being investigated or not.
00:23:23
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So, so far, I mean, I don't know, I might be wrong with this, but there's not enough strong evidence for them to, like, actually go after that.
00:23:32
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Right.
00:23:33
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Like, there's not enough, like, written and documentation on coercion.
00:23:37
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A lot of it was, like, verbally said and, like...
00:23:41
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All of that, it's not going to uphold in court.
00:23:44
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Yeah.
00:23:44
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Well, at least not yet.
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Not yet.
00:23:46
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Yeah.
00:23:46
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I don't know.
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I mean, we'll see.
00:23:48
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Not yet.
00:23:49
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Things are unfolding.
00:23:50
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I have a feeling he's not going to be able to build that community.
00:23:55
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I don't think so.
00:23:56
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I'm sure that... The universe is going to intervene.
00:23:59
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There's had to be some backlash from this.
00:24:02
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I mean, since the documentary came out...
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Because there was a lot of people that left this universe.
00:24:09
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Yeah.
00:24:09
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And so there has to be some sort of backlash, dropping the numbers, dropping revenue.
00:24:14
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I'm pretty sure.
00:24:15
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I mean, like, creating, like, awareness, like, wow, these guys, you watch it.
00:24:19
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And they're like, they are Delulu.
00:24:23
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They're 100% Delulu.
00:24:25
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If you see Delulu on the dictionary... That's them.
00:24:28
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That's their pictures, like, right next to it.
00:24:31
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And I just, I feel...
00:24:33
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terrible for the people who like went through that experience they like my heart goes out to them and like their families and like it was a lot of parents like searching for their kids like trying to convince their kids to like get out of that control group um for the people who like you know one did like the gender reaffirmation surgery um
00:24:54
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I think a couple of them.
00:24:55
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And it was like the moms talking about it.
00:24:57
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And they're just like heartbroken.
00:24:59
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They just want their kid to come home.
00:25:01
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And they like tried to find them at like this retreat in I think Sedona.
00:25:05
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They like ran into space, but they weren't there.
00:25:09
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And it's just like really heartbreaking to see.
00:25:13
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It reminded me of like the Nixxiom documentary.
00:25:16
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I don't know if you ever watched that.
00:25:17
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I have seen that.
00:25:18
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Yeah, with Keith like...
00:25:20
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I can't remember.
00:25:21
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Rainier.
00:25:21
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Rainier.
00:25:21
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Yeah.
00:25:23
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And he kind of reminds me of like that type of like, you know, personality.
00:25:29
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I think Keith was definitely a wolf in sheep's clothing for sure.
00:25:32
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And like, I mean, that whole thing is such a good documentary.
00:25:37
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We'll link all these documentaries, but it's just fascinating to me.
00:25:43
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Because, like, the program that we did, it is the opposite.
00:25:47
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It is, like, how to find your own information.
00:25:49
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How to become empowered.
00:25:51
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Right.
00:25:51
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Like, how to own your space and recognize your patterns and, like, you know, when other people are encroaching on your information and, like, how to set boundaries with them and...
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recognize like you're getting triggered by other people's information or like running on other people's information.
00:26:08
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So I find it fascinating when a high control group comes into like a new one comes up that I'm like, I don't, I know myself so well where I would never be, I would never be
00:26:23
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like choose to do that and but I do understand how people get in that situation yes well I can only speak from my own experience I would I don't know if I would be like in this sort of situation per se but I can see how someone would get carried away into this community like say you have a good friend
00:26:48
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Hey,
How Leaders Exploit Vulnerabilities
00:26:49
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do you want to go check this out?
00:26:50
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Maybe it's like a meeting, right?
00:26:52
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Yeah, like a meetup.
00:26:53
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Someone is like a recruiter, but you don't know their recruiter.
00:26:56
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Someone, you know, that maybe you know and you trust it.
00:26:59
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And they kind of bring into this saying like, well, you know, it's just kind of quote unquote like a wellness thing.
00:27:07
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organic you know right service or whatever that is and you trust that person and then from there you just start getting more and more into it and then you become coach and then yes and then you start like how did i get here and then you become so dependent on that that it kind of rules over your life and at that point and they you know and if you look at any of those uh
00:27:31
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like the lulus and uh this gurus like you know these people the lulu gurus that's a term i guess you see like they do have this and they have a quality of how they know how to manipulate people and how to really like hone in into their soft spots like rasputin yeah exactly yeah and what do you need to hear from me
00:27:56
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They know like what the right words to say.
00:27:59
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So you feel like you're seen, that you're loved.
00:28:03
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And this is the only community that understands you.
00:28:06
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And then it's going to be there for you.
00:28:08
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It's the art of Khan artistry.
00:28:10
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Yeah, it's the art of manipulation.
00:28:12
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So, and then again, and when you, I think when you catch yourself into it, and this is not like for people, some people will say, oh, but you have to be so naive.
00:28:21
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I mean, if you look at people that got into all this stuff, these are people that are educated.
00:28:25
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Right.
00:28:25
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Like,
00:28:26
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People from like... Pretty normal, regular people.
00:28:30
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Yeah, educated people.
00:28:31
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They're from, you know, wealthy backgrounds.
00:28:33
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So it's like from all different like backgrounds that people will get into it, but they really hone in into people's vulnerabilities.
Healthy Relationship Dynamics
00:28:42
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Where do you need, oh, you know, she has a mother one, so I'm going to...
00:28:46
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Oh, we're going to drill in.
00:28:47
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We're going to be the mom that she needed and stuff like that.
00:28:51
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And they are good at pairing it up with people that kind of like fulfill, I'm going to put quote unquote that role.
00:28:58
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So people get really like swapped into the stuff.
00:29:01
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And by the time, you know, you kind of...
00:29:04
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maybe realize you're in it.
00:29:08
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It might be you're really like down the road at this point.
00:29:11
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Oh, for sure.
00:29:12
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Way too deep involved in the community.
00:29:14
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And I think when you are so used to routine in general, like taking a step back outside of this whole thing,
00:29:23
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Like, people get so caught up in their routine, like, the people that they see, like, the obligations that they have to fulfill.
00:29:31
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I think that can be also, like, a really dangerous zone to be in.
00:29:35
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Like, have, like, because obligations are, in my mind, they're all created by you.
00:29:41
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Like, you create your own obligations.
00:29:43
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Like,
00:29:44
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obligations to people to, you know, in your work environment, your home environment, like your friendship circle, whatever it is.
00:29:51
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And I think people can get so caught up in like, oh, I need to follow through.
00:29:55
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I need to like fulfill my promises when really like that was like them manipulating you the whole time.
00:30:02
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Yeah, absolutely.
00:30:04
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And there's a lot of judgment too around, I would say like societal issues.
00:30:09
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I think today we're in a much better space of when it's been dictated that you have to be in a relationship by a certain age.
00:30:18
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Oh, yeah.
00:30:18
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Right?
00:30:19
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It's a lot of cultures are like that.
00:30:20
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Right.
00:30:21
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Like as a woman or already like...
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pressured to have children by a certain age because then it'll be a geriatric pregnancy and you're too old to have children.
00:30:33
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Oh, you're still single.
00:30:34
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You're going to become, and I think it's an insult to say you're going to become a cat lady, which I don't think it's, it's not anymore.
00:30:41
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In the 1800s, an old maid, you know, or even before that.
00:30:44
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Well, there's something wrong with, not only with women, but I think with men as well.
00:30:50
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But I think with women, of course, there's way more pressure.
00:30:54
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As far as, you know, not being in a relationship per se.
00:30:59
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Even if you're in an unhealthy relationship, it doesn't matter.
00:31:03
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But I think we've come a long ways.
00:31:06
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I feel like that's shifted a lot lately.
00:31:08
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Yeah, with people like really owning where they want to be.
00:31:13
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Right.
00:31:13
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Some people don't want to be in a relationship.
00:31:15
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Right.
00:31:15
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Like, I'm currently not in a relationship.
00:31:18
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And, like, of course, I would love to be in a healthy relationship where you're co-creating together and you're, like, you know, doing life and having adventures and, like, it's, like, high vibrational.
00:31:31
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But a lot of relationships, you, like, the shadow matches up.
00:31:36
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You see people's, like, their baggage and their, like, emotional stuff comes out and, like, people are particular.
00:31:44
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It's not, like, all, like, fun, high vibrational things.
00:31:48
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No, that's.
00:31:48
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That doesn't happen.
00:31:49
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That's not realistic.
00:31:51
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We all have our issues and we bring our issues.
00:31:54
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Yes.
00:31:54
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Into the relationship.
00:31:56
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I mean, and the question again, you know, when you find your soulmate, whoever that is, is to work together through all of that where you can grow together and heal together.
00:32:07
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Right.
00:32:08
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It's teamwork.
00:32:09
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Right.
00:32:09
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Exactly.
00:32:10
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Like teamwork.
00:32:11
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working on your shadow together and recognizing it and owning it and being able to separate from one another, like growing individually.
00:32:20
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And like one of my best friends and her partner, they've been together since we were high school and,
00:32:26
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But they've done their own thing.
00:32:27
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They went to college in different places.
00:32:30
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They've lived in different cities, different states at different times throughout their, you know, early part of their relationship.
00:32:37
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And now they're, like, married, two kids.
00:32:39
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And, like, I see that they're still individuals and they're co-creating that relationship together.
00:32:46
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And I think that's, like, one really healthy example.
00:32:49
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And, of course, like...
00:32:50
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They're, you know, nothing's perfect, but I see that they did it the right way where they grew individually, but they still valued and prioritized their relationship at the same time.
00:33:02
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Because you are individuals, but then you are...
00:33:06
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in a couple totally like this format of two yeah but it doesn't mean that you uh you complete i don't believe in completing each other you know and i think this is like an old concept that's been like you know passed on for generations i do believe in people complementing each other uh because no one is perfect so we all have our flaws
00:33:32
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And but I think it's to me, relationships, they are also a great space for healing because it doesn't matter if it's a friend, a family or a partner.
00:33:44
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They're going to trigger something in you.
00:33:46
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Absolutely.
00:33:46
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Yeah.
00:33:47
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It's a matter like how great a relationship you have.
00:33:50
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Something's going to get triggered because you are different people.
00:33:53
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Mm hmm.
00:33:54
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And therefore, there's something that gets triggered and you're like, oh, okay, I think it's, you know, an opportunity for me to work on myself.
00:34:02
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If you have this awareness, you know, but it's a process.
Trusting Intuition in Relationships
00:34:07
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Yeah.
00:34:07
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So the main takeaway from this episode, like, really, if you are single and looking for a partner, whether you're a woman, a man, a they, them, like whatever you identify as,
00:34:20
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Like, when you are looking for something, a connection, just trust your own information.
00:34:27
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Like, trust the vibes.
00:34:29
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If the vibes are not vibing, trust that.
00:34:32
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Like, you can't, it's like, you know, fitting a square peg in a round hole.
00:34:36
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Like, I mean, I don't mean that to sound sexual at all.
00:34:39
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Like...
00:34:41
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But like, you know, like sometimes it doesn't work.
00:34:44
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It doesn't fit.
00:34:46
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And that's okay.
00:34:47
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And that means like somebody else is going to be like, that's not your person.
00:34:51
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There's someone else who's out there and going to be a seamless fit and like a match for you.
00:34:58
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Yeah.
00:34:58
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Well, I do hope that this year, you know, we'll bring people together.
00:35:03
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a lot of this awareness more of this awareness too of trusting their own intuition and their wisdom as we move into the year whether it be relationship discerning from you know things that are healthy unhealthy but we do recommend if you want a suggestion for a documentary
00:35:24
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We recommend watching it.
00:35:26
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It's very informative.
00:35:28
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Yeah.
00:35:28
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Quite eye-opening.
00:35:31
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