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Called to Adopt: Trusting God Through the Waiting
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In this episode of Pause & Think, host Jackie Darby talks with Kristen Williamson about her family’s faith-filled journey through international adoption.
Kristen shares how God placed a calling on her heart, the challenges of a long and uncertain adoption process, and the emotional reality of bringing home an older child from the Philippines. She opens up about trauma, trust, patience, and the beauty that comes from obedience and perseverance.
This honest conversation offers encouragement to anyone navigating adoption, waiting seasons, or learning to trust God’s timing.
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Introduction and Guest Welcome
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We all have a story, and at times we feel we're walking it out alone. Let's pause and think. Join us for honest conversations about adoption and parenting as we lament, encourage, give hope, and explore our true identity and worth in Christ.
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Hi, welcome to Pause and Think, another episode of a real and honest conversation. My name is Jackie Darby, and I am your host for today, and I am so glad that you're joining with us.
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And today we have a very special guest, someone I met in Mobile, Alabama. Her name is kris Kristen Williamson. Sorry, Kristen. It's okay. And I am just so excited to have you, Kristen.
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I'm excited to be here.
Kristen's Adoption Calling
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Well, I met Kristen and Jay um a few years ago at church. And I always, when I seen you, just seen you physically from a distance. And then when I got to know you and hear your heart, and I believe we were at um a women's retreat together ah one point in time. And i got to just talk with you. And i just felt a kindred spirit, first of all, as the body of Christ, as sisters in Christ.
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And so I'm so excited to have you here, Kristen, because um from the outside, your family appears to be ah the perfect American family, you know, husband, wife, boy, girl, you know, the foursome, and you live on a beautiful farm in Mobile.
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um But when I heard that you entered the whole adoption world, I was blown away. oh my goodness. So I would like you, you can tell anything about yourself, but let's get into your story now.
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And I would love to hear how and when God touched your hearts for adoption. Yes. yes. So ah most people ask that, you know, why did you want to adopt? You already have a girl and you already have a boy. So, yeah, from the outside looking in, it would look like you have a perfect family. um But so I was actually a youth leader at the time.
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And I was at youth camp. um And that is when that was the moment that God placed that need on my heart and that calling on my heart. And I didn't know what that looked like as far as was it going to be foster care? Was it going to be adoption? I just knew that.
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He put it so heavy on my heart. Like it was like he was there and he was like, you're gonna have you're gonna have a child in your home. Didn't know how many, didn't know what that looked like. I just knew like we were called to do that. um So my husband was not with me at the time. It was just me there. I was there as a leader.
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with our youth students at the time. um And I'd always felt, I'm sorry, my throat. I had been serving in youth ministry for a long time. So for about six years.
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um So I'd always felt called to to children. And I felt more of a calling to older kids. um And in that moment, when God put that need on my heart, he did He spoke to me and told me, it will not be a baby.
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It will be an older child. And I didn't know what age that would be. You know, I just knew it was not going to be a newborn. So I'm like, I'm so excited. You know, i'm like, oh, my gosh, like God spoke to me. I have a word, like have a calling. And so i probably should have waited to tell Jay. um But I was so excited. Like, I couldn't wait to tell him.
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um And so when I got home, it was like immediately I told him, and I was like, you're not going to believe what God told me. And he's like, what? And so I told him, he's like, well, God hasn't told me that. I'm like, well, he will. He's going to tell you. He's going to tell you. um I said, because why would he speak that to me and eventually not speak it to you? Because this is obviously something we have to do together as a family. You know, I'm not going to.
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a Adopt a child on my own, obviously. And so we talked about it. And I um i asked him, i said, will you just be open to pray about it? And he said, yes, I'll pray about it. I'll be open to pray about it.
Commitment to Adoption
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And so I can't tell you exactly like how much time went by, but some time went by and he had been praying about it.
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And he was open to it. um And we kind of said, well, the house we were living in at the time, we didn't have any extra bedrooms. It was three bedroom, two bath house. So he was like, well, if we're going to do that, because we like I said, I didn't know how many kids, like i was like, is going to be one? Is it going two? Like, we didn't know. At this point, we're just open to do it.
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And God was going to lead the way. So he said, um we are going to have to, you know, move. We're to have to sell our house and get a bigger house. And I was like, okay. And he said, so that can be like our first confirmation, I guess.
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So we listed our house and it sold in two days. um so Oh my goodness. So that was kind of like, it was so was that Jay's fleece? Like, okay, if...
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you know, if we do this, we need a bigger house. So that was kind of like his first thing. Okay, Lord, if you if you help us with the house, then that's his son. that's Yeah, that's kind of how it was for him. Because, you know, being the man and being the provider, he's like, well, how am I going to provide this? Like, we got to have a bigger house. Like, we got to have more room. So yeah, that was his way of God giving him that confirmation. Cause I already, like, I just, I knew, like, I knew that I knew that I knew, like there was no doubt.
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Um, and so he needed that, you know, like he needed that confirmation. So when it sold in two days. And so at the time, all obviously too, like Jay is very much, um,
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like prepared and he wants to make sure it we're taken care of. So at the time we had a house on Dauphin Island, which is a local beach to us. Him and his dad had went in together and bought it. So we knew we had somewhere to live. We were like, if our house sells quickly, we will move there until we decide.
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you know, what we're going to do. Are we going to build? Are we going to buy? You know, so we had somewhere to go. So our house sold in two days and we moved to Dolphin Island. um and we might have to have a whole nother episode on the whole house process.
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um yeah But we ended up, we did end up, we were going to build. That didn't work out, but God had his hand in all that as well. But we ended up buying a house. So We um obviously have a bedroom for Sila.
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So anyways, um so then we had to start thinking and praying like, okay, areri are we fostering? are we Are we adopting? Are we doing it domestically? Are we doing it internationally? So like I said, I knew- A lot of choices. Yeah, there's a lot of choices. um you know And we knew we just had to start somewhere.
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um And I had previously went to some foster care training actually with Ms. Pam Patrick. This was a long time ago before I even knew that we would be called to do it. I just went just because i was interested. So I kind of knew how that, what that
Choosing International Adoption
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looked like as falls as far as foster care in Alabama.
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um So I knew that to adopt a child domestically here in Alabama would be through foster care. um And during this time, God spoke to us that it was going to be permanent. Like we weren't going to be fostering. Like this child was going to be permanently our child. And so we were kind of scared to do the foster care because we were like, you know, obviously foster care, the goal ultimately is to partner them back with their parents, you know? So were like, do we want to do that? Because we knew there's a chance it.
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wouldn't be permanent. I mean, sometimes it is, you know, but, and then we also have to think about Adalyn and Luke and what that would put them through, you know, bringing children in and out of the home and um knowing that it wasn't going to be a baby, you bring an older child in, you know, they have been, most of them have been exposed to things and have been through things. And so we had to really consider what that would do, you know, to Adalyn and Luke.
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So that's when we said, okay, well, I guess we have to adopt internationally um to get an older child that we knew we could adopt. So that's how the door opened up to doing international adoption.
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So, and then we, you know. Okay, my question regarding Jay, was the house the only thing he needed to get on board and feel like, okay, this is a God thing, like God's truly calling us both into this new chapter of life, just investigating and seeking out an adoption. Was that all he needed or was there any other confirmations?
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Um, other confirmations as far as like, went you know, during his prayer time with the Lord and just God, you know, speaking to him about it, like he felt confirmation in that way as well. Um, but I think with the house situation, because like I said, there's just a lot to all that.
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Um, but God really did work. well I think work through that for Jay. Um, there were just a lot of things that had to fall into place, Because Jay is very much, he owns his own business. And so he's very much like the financial side of things are, he wants to make sure we're going to be okay.
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You know, obviously, like, right it costs a lot of money to think any man would be that. Yes. And we know how expensive it is to adopt. You know, it's not. Yes. um Sadly, it's very expensive.
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So um that was a big deal for him. But god God provided every step of the way financially and above and beyond. So, yeah, I think that was probably Jay's biggest confirmation was the house.
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So did you have any particular country that you were interested in or or were you just open to any child from anywhere? Yeah. So me, I was like any child anywhere.
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i think it was so crazy because I think, you know, as women, I guess we're more like the emotional side of things, you know, so I was just so like For sure. Excited it at the time, you know, so I was like, yeah, anywhere. But first you have to pick an agency, you know. um So at the time um we were looking at either Lifeline or All Guys Children. And we were looking at the countries that they, you know, have contracts with because each adoption agency has certain countries that they, you know, partner with to bring children home.
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And so that kind of helped determine our decision as far as um who we wanted to use. So we ended up going with All God's Children, um but they did not have a home study agency in Alabama. So we did have to use a Lifeline for our home study.
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um And looking at the countries, there's a lot of things that determine like travel time. So some countries... require you to travel more than one time to their country. And so we kind of had to look at that. And that was a big determining factor because of Jay's business and because of our biological children. We didn't want to leave them a lot.
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um And traveling out of country like Jay really couldn't be gone that many times. So we needed to find a country where we were only required to go one time. um And the amount of time that we had to stay was a determining factor too. So we kind of narrowed it down to Columbia or the Philippines. And we just, like I said, we just prayed about it and we felt like God was leading us to the Philippines.
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There was no reason why we knew no one in the Philippines. We didn't know anyone who ah had adopted from the Philippines. So
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it was just something led you to you were fine. So I love it. I love that. So let's fast forward and tell me how long from the start to the time that you actually um were assigned your your daughter. Okay. And tell us the part when you were able to go and bring her.
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Okay.
The Adoption Journey
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so from So from the time, so when we chose the Philippines, their program is called Waiting Children. And so that's like the older program they have. So they have like zero to two and then they have...
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um three to up or four to up, remember, but it's called waiting children. So we would get emails each month of the children who were available for adoption.
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And so there were three kids before Sila that we started the process on. And when you're starting, when you do a referral on a child, you can only do one at a time. So if you see a child you're interested in and you say, we want information on this child, they start the referral and then we find out whether or not that child is available.
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um And so it's kind of like a waiting game. And there were a lot of heartbreaks. um and But we know now, like once we started the process with Silo, we obviously knew those other children weren't our child Siloist's. But after the third no, i kind of was very, um I don't know, I guess I was very heartbroken because each child you start thinking like this could be my child, you know. And so I was kind of like, I don't know if I want to do this anymore. Like, I just don't know if I can go through this again. Because we have to start reading their whole entire profile. And the Philippines does give you a lot of information. So we liked that about them. They gave us, because some countries you you could not know anything about the child.
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You know, so the Philippines really tries to give you the most information possible. So you really start feeling like connected to that child reading, you know, their profile. So I was a little like, just don't know. Like, I just I just don't even know if we can I can do this anymore. But Jay, because we got another bulletin after that third no, we got another bulletin that month and Jay had already looked.
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um And so he saw Silas picture her before I did. um And we were talking and I was like, Jay, I don't know. I think we just need to wait. We just need to take a break. Well, he had already requested information on her with without me knowing. um Because he said that he saw her picture and he knew.
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He was like, she's going to be the one. Yeah.
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I told myself living in crop. Let me just interrupt here. Yes, thank you. That'd be good. I did not know that part of your story. Yeah. And hearing you talk...
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Reminds me of my story because my parents were also assigned three other babies before Oh, wow. Oh, wow. And exactly what you said, there was a lot of heartbreak.
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Yes. They got attached, you know, seeing their pictures, hearing their stories, sending stuff to Korea. But after each one passed away, after the third time, just like you, it was like, okay, that's enough. We just need to take a break. It's hard. yeah And so When I was the fourth one, my mom's immediate response was no thank you.
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Yeah. Because she didn't feel like she could go through more heartbreak. Yeah, yeah. But weeks later, like you said, Jay was already without you knowing. And he already seen, investigated, seen the picture, and knew that he knew this was it.
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And so it was kind of, it it's kind of the um opposite now. Jay was... you know, very, this is, she's the one, I know this the one God's put in her heart. and And then you had to get on board. So anyway, i didn't know that part of your story. yeah And thank you for sharing that because yeah that really touches my heart thinking of how, what my mom and dad went through as well.
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Yeah. So, okay, JC in the picture, let's pick back up JC in the picture. And from that point on, how long did it take for you to actually be able to fly over? Two years.
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So from the time her picture. Two years. Two years. She was seven years old when we first um got her referral packet in her pictures and everything. she She was seven. So it took two years. She had turned nine by the time we got there.
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to you know to get her and bring her home. It shouldn't have taken that long. um There were a lot of um changes in All God's Children. So we went through several different adoption like agents that we were assigned to There were three total. So every time we would get someone new, it was like starting over. And then once we started our referral with Sila,
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There were changes also there in the Philippines with their... So they used to be called ICAB, and now they're NACC. So they went through a whole total different, like, business takeover, government, all this. So there were so many, like...
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hiccups and things that weren't supposed to happen. So you can't be prepared. Like when you choose a country, they'll give you an estimated time. Do not even look at that. Just know immediately, like it's going to take longer. That is not going to be the timeframe. Estimated, strong on the word estimated. um So you're just waiting and waiting and waiting and And we didn't really get to talk to her.
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We didn't get to start talking to her till the end of that two years. um And there would be so many, like there's so much waiting time in between, like, talking with them. And you think, what has taken so long? Like, why does why does it take so long for them to get an email and respond to us, you know? um So, yeah, so i was hopeful that I would have her at age seven.
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um But we didn't get her until she was nine. So she was nine. She was nine yeah when she came over. and you were able to go together and bring her home. yeah and one one point we left out, but um I know, but maybe you can tell our listeners, um your kids were also on board because you included them.
00:18:57
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Absolutely. So, yes, we told them once we both. But they were not able Yeah, they were not able to make the trip. Just the two of you went. Yes, just the two of us. They didn't go with us. They wrecked they kind of encouraged. Now, they could have came. um But they, early on, like during our training and stuff, they kind of encouraged us not to bring them. um Just because like when you're first there, because obviously that was our first time seeing Sila, you know, so like we saw her on video call, but as far as like our first um physical in-person connection. Yeah. And so...
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she would have wanted to do that with them as well. You know what i mean? So it would have been hard for us yeah as a parent. So they really encouraged like, we need to do that first, just like you would having a baby, you know, in the hospital.
00:19:48
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So um they were very big on that. Yeah. So Kristen, tell me, um so when did you bring Sila home?
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So we were able to travel um in December 2024. So we went over on eight times December that's left. We brought her home December thirteenth of 2024 um so so it's just been a year only been a year yeah so and I was really hopeful that because we had been talking with her and her birthday is November um and we were really hopeful that she would be home you know for her birthday like that first birthday we would have been able to well I guess really two birthdays
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because she was seven.
Bringing Sila Home
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So every year it was like, gosh, well, hopefully she'll be home for this birthday, you know, but she wasn't, but we did get to send her um like videos and stuff for her birthday.
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um So, but we brought her home December. So she was here for that Christmas. And that was, it was very like, it was an exciting time to bring her home, but it was also, i would think,
00:21:05
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I could say it was a little hard because there was a lot going on. you know, she comes home and then it's Christmas and then it's New Year's and, um Adeline and Luke are out of school and everything's kind of off scheduled.
00:21:17
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um But it was fun. But I think it was a little like teasing to her because, you know, she comes home and it's just like a big party. you know, so. Yes. It was a little. Unrealistic. Unrealistic. Yeah.
00:21:31
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Very much unrealistic. So that made things a little difficult because, you know, i'm like, okay, well, this isn't how it's going to be. Like, here's real life, you know. um And so it was um when we got there two when we got to the Philippines, we didn't get to see her right away. So there was some waiting time. um And then the first day we got to go there to the orphanage, because Sila was in the orphanage, which she called it the center. So that's what we call it. this We call it the center when we talk about it.
00:22:04
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So she was in the center with other children. um But the first day we went to get to see her, she didn't get to come with us that day. That was kind of there because we kind of had to go based off what they require. What are their rules? You know, so we got to go visit. um hi Exactly. she did She did get to end up leaving with us and we got to take her and do some stuff that day. But a social worker came with us as well.
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um So that was a really good, that was a really sweet time. um And then she had to go back and stay there. And then that next day, we went for our final like entrustment paperwork and all that stuff. And then um she got to leave with us. We stayed another night there in the Philippines and she stayed with us in the hotel.
00:22:49
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And then we got up that next morning and started our journey home. It was a long, long journey. So... Well, what I'm hearing, um I'm comparing it to how our Heavenly Father um fights for us.
00:23:07
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Oh, yeah. yeah and he he wants us to be his sons and daughters. And so it wasn't easy by no means. It took a long time.
00:23:18
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It was a three-year process from the time God planted that in your hearts until the time you actually brought her home. So I, you know, I understand in the years of talking to adult adoptees and other parents that, you know, there's brokenness and beauty all in the same sentence. Yes. And, you know, I understand from the child's point of view more than anything um how we can come with baggage. Yes.
00:23:51
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And we we can have things, you know, this wasn't God's original plan ah to be separated from a biological parents. But adoption is so much of the Lord because he adopts us as his sons and daughters and we become his.
00:24:07
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And so the earthly example of that is exactly what your family is doing, what you and Jay have done. And so um i know our time is limited. And oh, my goodness, i i there's so much more to talk. And we're to be back again to talk more. yeah But I would just like to um kind of wrap it up. Not, you know, not totally, but kind of ah bring it to new the next question or two I have for you. Yeah.
Challenges and Blessings
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In your first year that you had Sila home, um what what would be like one of your challenges that you could be vulnerable about about um in talking to other parents? Clearly, this was something, a God thing. And you have Sila. And it's, you know, you're on this journey a year into it now.
00:25:06
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But what would you say is your greatest challenge? but yet your greatest blessing. Okay. So, so every, you know, every child in there, um, cause every adopted child has trauma regardless of what that looks like. So I think it really depends on that child's trauma. Um, and Silas was abandonment, neglect, um,
00:25:32
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um And mainly more from her mother. Because I think, you know, I've shared this with you, but she not only was um neglected from her biological mother, then there was another mom who was in the process of adopting her and then she abandoned her as well. So my biggest struggle would be the mother-daughter bond and attachment because her need for that is so strong and it puts um like a lot of pressure there between my and her relationship because her need for me is so great. um And there's a lot of trust issues. um
00:26:09
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So there's it's never just like, you know how you would with your child. mean, most kids never just automatically say, okay, or yes, ma'am. I mean, But it's easier for them to do that when they have that trust, when they know that you are going to do what you say you're going to do, or you are going to come back. Or, like for the longest time in the beginning, like, I couldn't even leave. I could not get out her sight.
00:26:33
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You know, even just going to the restroom. So it's almost like I had a newborn, but I but i didn't, and I had a nine-year-old. um So that would be the biggest challenge. um So it took a lot of patients that...
00:26:48
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I realized I didn't have. um So there was a lot of like, I think guilt maybe, me like I felt bad because i knew she couldn't help it, you know, and I wanted to be that for her. But there were days that I was just exhausted mentally and physically because, know,
00:27:08
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My other two children are older, so they were more independent. So I kind of had forgotten what it was like to have a, I mean, mentally, she's more like a toddler. So really like having a toddler again.
00:27:20
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um So then I felt selfish and I was like, why do I feel this way? Like, you know, um so that would be my biggest struggle was just that. Mine and in her relationship just because of her trust issues, you know, and she has every right to feel that way, you know, every right to feel that way.
00:27:38
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Exactly. Because of what she's been through. Yeah. You know, and I did and they did briefly talk about that in her paperwork. So but still, it doesn't prepare you for even though I knew what had happened.
00:27:51
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it still doesn't prepare you for um what what that's going to look like. So I would say that would be the biggest challenge, just trust issues. And it was it was weird because she would kind of flip it and flop back and forth like,
00:28:10
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she would really want like cling to me and then she would really cling to Jay. And like, she went through times where she kind of like resisted me. And then there were times where she resisted Jay. And so that was very hard. And it even put a strain on mine and his relationship.
00:28:27
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Um, so there's this, there's a lot to all that, but it didn't last forever. Um, so I would say challenge. And then you wanted me to give, like a blessing or like the blessing of it. Okay. Yeah. the blessing of it To me, the blessing of it would be like just, um, the fact that Sila was able to leave with two strangers and just be able to have, like, even though she has trust issues, it's like she trusted enough to, to be able to just leave a country. That's the only one that she ever knew, you know?
00:29:08
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That's a big blessing to me. Oh, yes. And just come with this new family, you know Yes, yes. And at at nine years old, yeah you know, there's a lot that's already been established. You know, the first five years, psychologists say, psychiatrists, psychologists, they all say that is so, so important for attachment, for just all that. Yes. And so, like you said, what a blessing that she...
00:29:37
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Kind of blindly was they able to leave yeah everything she knew yeah and and go and trust yeah you and Jay and her new siblings.
00:29:50
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um yeah That is a blessing in disguise. It is. You know, sometimes we don't see it as a blessing. that We just yeah expect it. But it is such a blessing.
00:30:02
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And so um just to bring this, our conversation to a close. What words of encouragement could you say to any couple that might be contemplating adoption, whether domestic or international?
Advice to Aspiring Adopters
00:30:22
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What words of encouragement? um You went to this, you know, it took three years to adopt her. Now you've been into it one whole year that she's been in your home.
00:30:33
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What words of encouragement could you give to other parents? Um, don't give up because there are going to be during the process. You're going to want to, um, you're going to want to just quit.
00:30:48
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And there were times where, you know, i even questioned, like, did God even really call me to do this? Maybe I didn't hear him correctly. Like, so just try not to question that.
00:31:00
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Um, and just try to go back. Like if it becomes, if it is that for you, like if you feel like it's a call that God has put on your heart, on your life, just stick to that. And that will be what you can hold on to.
00:31:12
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um And you really have to you really have to rely on him during this because really that's the only way that we were able to get through it and to be able to not give up.
00:31:24
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um Because there were plenty of times we wanted to just say, we can't do this anymore. Like we're just, we're not, we can't wait anymore. It's too painful. It's too heartbreaking. um It was hard for the kids. So I would just say, don't give up. Hang on to that, um that word that you have and just keep going because it's worth it.
00:31:46
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It's hard, it's worth it. That's so good. Thank you. Oh, yes. Thank you. We're doing this on video, but I feel like we're sitting right in front of each other. Yes, me too. And I can feel the emotion of your words and as if I was walking the journey with you.
00:32:05
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Yes. And so I'm just so thankful for um those who are connected. Yes. to this episode of Cause and Think. Kristen, I'm so thankful for your vulnerability and for just opening your heart and and story.
00:32:21
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um Even after one short year, we all know a year flies by, yes but it can also be a very long year. And so I'm just so thankful. So I want to just encourage you as listeners whether you're watching, whether you're listening to our podcast, to join us again because Kristen has a lot more to unpack with her story.
00:32:44
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And we want to hear even more about this first-year journey because I know that there's a lot more to the story. But we want to give our listeners another chance to come back.
00:32:55
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And we want you back for another episode because we know that God's put a lot in your heart and you have a lot of experience now to share with with those who are just starting this journey in just the thinking process.
00:33:08
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So thank you so much. And thank you to all of our listeners for joining us for another episode of Pause and Think. Thank you. Thanks for joining us for this episode of Pause and Think.
00:33:21
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