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Episode 045 - Game of Worms
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This week, we talk about life, health, things we've bought, pranks that were pulled, Dune, Arcane, Flow, cats, dogs, Tomb Raider, Skelly Crew, Star Wars, your mum, Wild Robot, and a handful of other things. 😮💨
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Transcript
Introduction and Host Updates
00:00:01
Speaker
Hello, and welcome to episode number 45 of Just Shillin. I am one of your hosts, Sean Hoffman. And I am your other host, Andy Bell. How are you, mate? It's been a week? I'm all right. I'm all right. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling healthy, COVID-free over here. No big deal. Excellent.
00:00:25
Speaker
ah um'm ah i'm doing I'm doing all right. um I've i've got a ah picked up some some goodies this week that I've shared some pictures of that I'm very excited about. I've watched some stuff that I'm excited to talk about. um And I think that's that's pretty much it. But yeah, ah i'll save I'll save some of that. I want to find out how how you're doing. Because I'm um'm over here feeling healthy and and strong and breathing clean.
00:00:54
Speaker
um what are you How are you feeling? What's what's new with you? I'm all right, buddy. I'm OK. I've been feeling a little bit under the weather ah the last couple of weeks or so and you know just just getting a few things checked out, that um making sure that's OK. But yeah, all in all, um still genuinely still smiling, as they say. But yeah, it's been ah it's been a rough couple of weeks with um various aches and pains like i said getting it checked out more news to come on that if needs be um but but yeah no no i'm i'm i'm i'm okay dude i'm all right it's been um it's been a week it's been a week um we picked up the dog mate we picked up our new puppy on saturday which was good fun so we have olive um ah um the uh yeah so we picked up olive on um
00:01:45
Speaker
ah We picked up olive on Sorry guys, we're laughing about something in the chat.
New Puppy Adventure
00:01:52
Speaker
That's really really unprofessional and um we won't do it again. I i do promise you Yeah, so, um Yeah, no, no, we we picked up we picked up olive on on saturday. Um, that was a that was a day. That was a real day because um You know the background around the dog, you know kind of one of seven not seen as the pretty. I don't know if I told the listeners this, but she was seen as not being the prettiest, if you like, of her brothers and sisters because she was, um she's got a, as Dave Catt put it, Dave Catt, Dave Strutt, sorry, Dave Catt's a different friend of mine. ah Dave Strutt put it, she's got a really good wrestling bitch face. She looks angry. She's got these amazing eyebrows that um
00:02:37
Speaker
make her look angry and as a result of that she's not she wasn't perhaps the most popular so we saw her fell in love with her you're coming home it's so you know as they say I mean, I'm permanently got ah got a face like a spanked ass every single day of my life. So ah having a dog that that that that that looks like me is is is is a beautiful thing. So we have we have ah we picked her up. She had her last um check with the local vets to make sure everything's okay and everything where it should be, and she's looking good.
00:03:12
Speaker
And she's been an absolute delight, absolute delight ever since then she's tiny, tiny again, rescue yeah because rescuing everything she's she's she's a lot younger, I think the normal to come to us, it would have been a few weeks later, but she's only eight weeks old. She's tiny, tiny, tiny, about the same size as from from end to end as my hand. um yeah But she's delightful, and she's still in that lovely stage where she's sleeping all the time, so she'll have four or five minutes of being manic, and then she'll sleep for a good two or three hours. I know in three or four weeks, because we are a family of dogs, we've always had dogs, I know in three or four weeks she's gonna be an absolute pain in the ass, and she will not get any sleep whatsoever. ah The house will be, she'll howl the house down um in the in the evening, but you know it's like,
00:04:01
Speaker
It's like but having kids. It's no different. It's like having kids. yeah But at the moment, she's she's good value. She's really, really good value. And she's extraordinarily cute. And um she's just in that lollipice days where she, she'll run in one direction, make a quick turn and fall over. You know, and she'll, I mean, i mean she does, um our wooden flooring is is is quite slippery for for for animals. and You know, she'll she'll run round the room a few times and then and just literally do a handbrake turn in the middle of the room without intentionally doing it and run off it in a different direction. No, she's great. She's really, really good and she's fitting into the family beautifully. The cats are awesome initially um took one sniff and scarpered and they've been pretty much living upstairs in the house all week and the last couple of days, sorry, all week hasn't even been a week yet, but
00:04:56
Speaker
since we got her. But the last couple of days, they've started venturing downstairs and being a lot more brave and a little bit more inquisitive. And because Olive herself grew up in ah in ah in ah in a place that had lots of cats. I mean, it's kind of like a, it's a sanctuary. So cats, dogs, chicken, even chickens. I mean, they even have huge Bantam chickens there as well, believe it or not, which surprised me when I went there.
00:05:25
Speaker
Um, but the point being is that, you know, that they were, um, they were, uh, uh, she doesn't really care. She doesn't get fazed by, by, by cats or anything. And because she ignores them, they're being an awful lot more inquisitive now and, and don't mind it so much anymore, which is great. She's absolutely great. Um, at the same time. And I was going to tell you this earlier on before, we would but, but I think it's funny enough to actually tell the guys on the, on the, uh,
00:05:54
Speaker
ah they're listening.
Family Pranks and Work Life
00:05:55
Speaker
At the same time, meanwhile, while we're picking up the dog, my eldest daughter came with us because of course, we're picking up a new a new a new a new dog. So she's going to definitely come with us because she loves animals. ah But my eldest my youngest daughter, sorry, she's on holiday with a boyfriend out in the out in the um Dominican Republic.
00:06:17
Speaker
And so we picked this dog up and we're on our way home. Again, it's a long, long, long way away. So it's a six hour round trip. So it's been a long day and I'm tired. And all of a sudden we get this this this this photograph of her and her boyfriend in a very, very romantic, a very, very romantic ah ah picture or ah so pose, sorry, pose um on the family WhatsApp. And it's like, oh my fuck.
00:06:47
Speaker
He says something along the lines of, we've done it. And I'm like, you're kidding me. You're absolutely kidding me. She's got engaged. She's she's she's done she' done it. Anyway, unbeknownst to us, well.
00:06:59
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you know She let it she done it fester for a good 15, 20 minutes. Let me get a phone call with her laughing hysterically. No, we haven't done it at all. We just thought he'd wind you up. So we cook what's wrong with you? What is wrong with you? What kind of what kind of what kind of sense of humor? of What kind of brain have you got where you thought that would be really, really funny?
00:07:20
Speaker
you know and um I'm not i'm not some sort of stuffy um not some sort of stuffy dad or anything. It's like, but we haven't even spoken about it. I mean, not not that my opinion matters. I mean, most people, including the dogs, have ah ah ah well sorry, including the animals, have ah more of a ah say in our house than I do. Not that my opinion matters, but you'd think it would be kind of nice. No, they put it upon themselves. It would be a hilarious idea to wind up join us us up over in the UK by sending this stupid stupid message. but i mean Was it winding everybody up or was it just winding you up?
00:07:57
Speaker
no No, no, I was kind of like a little bit hurt, but Lucy was like outraged. Absolutely outraged that she hadn't been told. Meanwhile, I think Chloe knew what was going on or because her she lives with her sister, they live they live that they they have an apartment together in London. They know each other extraordinarily well. She started laughing. I reckon she either knew or she knows Abby's sense of humor and immediately and neat immediately you know knew it was gonna be a bit. um But yeah, that was that was one of those things. But this is after like a day of like six hours driving
00:08:34
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of to get this bloody dog and it's like holy shit only shit only to find out is a joke it's like yeah but it's it's not really funny go away don't bother me have a nice holiday anyway that was that so that was that's been the week and apart from that it's been work as usual a little bit of work um oh the other i don't know what it is but the I'm already feeling like I need another holiday, to be honest with you. And of course, we've got Christmas coming up, so I'll take a little bit of time off ah off then. But yeah, it works okay. It works okay. It's going all right. um Same old, same old grindstone, all that stuff. Lots of people that are excited about something that's important in there their lives. um And that's pretty much been it this week.
Holiday Plans and Lego Talk
00:09:18
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But I have picked up on an awful lot of stuff, which I'm really keen to talk to you about. Really keen to talk to you about.
00:09:25
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dame So have you picked up anything in the news? Because I've picked up some pretty cool stuff. I picked up some stuff in the news. one of the One of the things I picked up in the news, it's not really news, it's kind of consuming. It's not consuming, it's purchasing. But it's news. A while back, I talked about the ah this like Lego wreath that I was really excited about. Yeah. That has like little blueberries or whatever things and all these different things on it.
00:09:57
Speaker
It's in stores and I picked it up and I'm very excited about it. That's news. Does that accompany the rest of that botanical stuff? The one that I really like that you've got that I need to get is the bonsai tree. Does it go along with all that kind of stuff? I think it's a little bit nicer, I would say, than the bonsai tree. The bonsai tree is behind me.
00:10:25
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um The bonsai tree is cool, but it's definitely a different kind of style. I think some of their more more realistic botanical stuff that they've been doing ah recently is it's really, really cool. like I think they started with some of the tulips and the sunflowers and stuff, but now they've got these chrysanthemums and they have like these centerpieces and these wreaths that are like really, really, really detailed.
00:10:53
Speaker
um I don't know. It's really cool. um Madison said I have to wait and we're going to do it on Thanksgiving, which is next week. Nice. So that is, I'm excited. i yeah I just put the box to the side. I'm not, I don't want to look at it and get too excited yet. I'm like, we'll figure it out that day. I haven't done.
00:11:13
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I'm just looking at my... In fact, I don't know if you've noticed, I've had a bit of a rearrange. We're having a bit of a tidy up in here. Like you, I took one look at my shed and I thought, this needs a bit of a tidy up. So I'm slowly but surely having a bit of a reorganization here. But my point being, again, going off quite tangent, my point being is that I haven't done any Lego for ages and I ah need to think about investing in a bit. Although I don't know where I'm going to put it.
00:11:39
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um
00:11:42
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I, especially around for me around Christmas, a bit of Lego on boxing day, the day after box the day after Christmas day. Oh, that's perfect. No family, no entertaining. It's quiet in there in my joggers, watching an abundance of TV.
00:12:06
Speaker
with a bunch of Lego. Oh, that is a classic Christmas for me. Sorry, I interrupted. don Not a problem. the other news The other news that I've picked up, um one so one thing is kind of news, it's kind of a comment more, because I think that most people know about the news, but one thing, I wanted to get your thoughts on it just real briefly, or not.
Star Wars Enthusiasm
00:12:32
Speaker
Like if you don't have thoughts, we could just move on and move on to the other stuff. um I thought, there's been a lot of Andor, a lot of Andor news. We talked about it briefly last week. um A lot of stuff coming out of the D23 Brazil, a lot of other a lot of other things.
00:12:50
Speaker
And i don't I don't say this with any kind of like negativity tinge. There's not there's not there's nothing like that. It's like, a part of me is just like, with Skeleton Crew coming out,
00:13:03
Speaker
in like a week, two weeks or whatever it is, two weeks. Why why are they why are they pushing? why did they Why did they announce all this stuff? I don't know, man. I mean, it's welcome. Yeah, it's cool. I love it. But it just seems weird. Like why did they do that? It does it does seem weird but because it does buck a trend. you know i mean I don't know how it works. I don't know how it works. I got i got no i would love to be a fly on the wall.
00:13:32
Speaker
um when it comes down to their marketing and PR as to what, what strategy they put in because it's not, it's been at times consistently bad. Yeah. And at other times not consistent at all. So I don't know, mate, I don't know, mate, especially when there is nothing so far, we know beyond and or obviously,
00:14:02
Speaker
You know, there is the stuff I'm sure we're going to talk about in a second um that we know is being confirmed now. um But when it comes down to live action, everything else is pretty much in incubation or in a holding pattern at the moment. So I don't know. it I don't want to say it's blowing your load too early, but it's kind of like, wow.
00:14:29
Speaker
um because I'm so stoked for Skeleton Crew. And I don't know whether it's where my mind's at at the moment. I don't know whether it's um because I'm experiencing a refreshing, upbeat and joyful environment like Blue Sky compared to the platform I was using before.
00:14:51
Speaker
But the excitement, the general excitement around this, and I really, really thought, because of its target demographic, I really, really thought it would take a slating for it. But it's not. It's it's got, again, you know you surround yourself with positive people, you end up with positivity. um And I'm really enjoying that. But to to your point, to then introduce an awful lot of Andor news that's coming our way as well.
00:15:18
Speaker
um Like something out of the room a little bit. ah Well, yeah maybe, or or maybe it just ramps. It just keeps going. You know, rather than it trying to rather than it relying on the holiday, the timing of skeleton true to naturally pull it through, but starting the hype train, the hype train. I don't want to say something as, as, as, as terminal as.
00:15:45
Speaker
go out with a bang with Andor without any other news at the moment. It kind of feels that way. But maybe just you know just making it absolutely bigger than you know, bigger than Christendom that that that to to to make it to make it absolutely huge. that So that by April 22 next year, it it's just absolutely everyone's at fever pitch on the whole thing. Maybe that's the strategy. I don't know. don I don't know, man. It's really weird. So what have we seen this week? Sorry.
00:16:18
Speaker
No, nothing a whole lot. like it's like And I think that's the thing. it's like It's not been a lot. I think it's just been a little bit of stuff. I think a a little bit of the D23 reels that's been probably mostly to keep people subscribed through Q4. And then the Empire magazine stuff and yada, yada, yada. Mostly probably just to kind of keep keep it pushed through the holidays. But then I think what that, people like Andor so much, it's almost like suck the air out of the room for skeleton crew. I am extremely excited for skeleton crew. And so it's like, it's hard to not go into that realm of like, okay, maybe they're just doing this to like, I know the realistic side of me is like, they're probably doing it to keep subscribers through Q4 and into Q1. Simple as that. It's easy. It's hard to not get into the space of like,
00:17:06
Speaker
Maybe they're just giving the people who aren't going to like Skeleton Crews something to be happy about. So they're just like, oh, yeah, yeah, good point. And it's and it's like. But it it does like I can't I will be honest, it sucks a little teeny smidge smidgen to like be so excited about it, then have like have everybody be excited, then like feels like half the party leaves to go to a different party.
00:17:29
Speaker
You know, it's like, hey, where'd everybody go? I thought, what happened? What happened? Everybody being excited about Skeleton Crew. They're like, Andor, Andor. It's like, no, man, come on. What happened to Skeleton Crew? And then you like then then you like you go through like the stages of grief a little bit. And you're like, hey, I remember when you all watched Andor and everybody was talking about slow burn for the first five weeks, and everybody loved it in the beginning. And then, rabble, rabble, rabble, then all of a sudden, everybody loved it. And so, no, I'm just, yeah I was just grieving my life. I was excited about Skeleton. I am. I am. Yeah, I'm in the Empire Magazine. And if you're listening, Catherine, we will, between Sean and I, we will endeavor to get you a copy of Empire Magazine. Don't worry about it. It comes out tomorrow. So I will be
00:18:15
Speaker
I've got a few chores tomorrow, so I'll be on a hunt at um a couple of newsagents and department stores to try and get you a copy, so don't worry, because I know you're struggling ah to get a copy in Australia. And in fact, on that point, I'm kind of also glad for our podcast that that a lot of this Andor stuff is landing. So I can say with confidence um that we are going to record very very soon um part two of our Road to Celebration series and Catherine's going to join us she's very kindly um said yes she'll come along and talk about her yeah ah experiences of celebrations past but also her expectations and her her plans
00:18:54
Speaker
for for for for Tokyo, ah which will be great. um And because you and I have already kind of done the round robin of what we're going to do um with with Josh a week before last, it's going to be great having Catherine here when there's a whole bunch of Andor news coming up, because we can fill the rest of the pod with Andor news, which is fantastic. Because ah be I don't know if you've noticed, she actually quite likes talking about Andor. So that's great. It is great that there's a bunch of stuff there.
00:19:23
Speaker
Onto the skeleton crew stuff, I've been doing some speculating in my but in my brain. When I've been on my own and just thinking about stuff, typically at two in the morning, I've been doing. let me Let me get comfortable, hold on. Let me shift my yeah i cushion on my fold out chair. And the more, ah I keep watching that trailer. I keep watching the trailer because it just gives me the feels. It just gives me the feels. And it's like, I feel,
00:19:52
Speaker
I feel ya eight years old again. I feel 10 years old again. you know i feel I feel that. And interestingly, um
00:20:02
Speaker
let me not do what I normally do and go off a tangent and just finish what I'm trying to say at the fifth in the meantime. I feel a certain way. And because of that, I'm really, really looking forward to it. um I really, really, really don't hope there's not Jedi Force and lightsabers involved in it because I love that.
00:20:21
Speaker
i love that story about normal people, as you know, um despite some of the some of the hints or some of the some of the the stuff that they've been trying to go at gi they've been trying to allude to with Jude Law's character. But I've been thinking, and I was thinking about this last night,
00:20:44
Speaker
Because there is an intention, I believe there's an intention to take this beyond one series which one season, sorry which will be awesome. Absolutely awesome. Having something there on a semi-permanent basis for younger viewers, ah who will be the next generation of Star Wars fans,
00:21:01
Speaker
10 years from now. A younger crew. From way beyond my time, when once I'm dead and buried. um I really want that for the franchise. I really, really do. And I don't want us to be stuck in what was you know what happened um nearly 50 years ago, um because that would be so boring, despite it being excellent. It'd be so boring. Anyway, um I was thinking to myself,
00:21:30
Speaker
I keep watching this down trailer. um And i also because I also love the music as well. i love I love the music. I love the take on it. I love what it's trying to do. I love the emotions that it's trying to convey um in the and the feeling it's trying to convey. And the sick side of me also loves the yeah the discord that it's created but amongst people that just don't get it, don't understand at all as to why it's in there. Anyway, um that's that's the that's the nasty side of me coming up there.
00:22:01
Speaker
Anyway, um I got this theory that Jude Law's character is actually a bad guy. yeah I think he's a bad guy. I think he betrays the kids. And it may well be one of those, because the idea of this guy, oh, come with me, we'll come to an arrangement, or we'll make a deal, we'll have a bargain. It's like, these kids are in trouble.
00:22:26
Speaker
you know what What do you need to come to an arrangement about? what kind what do you need to These kids are actually in trouble. Any right-minded person the cat that gave a shit would say, yeah, come with me. i i i'll oh I'll save you, kids. you know Come with me. You're not saved. But this whole but also the, I wouldn't say overacting, but the the overexpression of these dangerous pirates that are coming your way. They're out for you. They're out for you. So he's almost feeding this this atmosphere of fear and and and and putting the living shits into these kids that they are in danger and they need to trust him and this over-reliance and everything. And I could be reading into it completely wrong, but I was just thinking to myself, your
00:23:11
Speaker
you'd protest too much a little bit. You know what I mean? It's kind of like, you know, the first thing you do with kids is you calm them down. It'll be all right. You're safe with me. It's not a problem. Rather than, there are pirates coming. quit they You've got to be with, youve got to I'm the only person that can save you. Let's come to an agreement. It's like, well, if you're a pragma, if you're a magnanimous ex-Jedi, or if you if you're a, I don't know, a hero type,
00:23:40
Speaker
That's not the kind of behavior I would have thought you'd have had. I could be completely wrong. Typically, I typically am wrong, but I'm getting to a point now where I'm actually quite enjoying speculating as to what's happening. right that's that's right That's what I think. I love every minute of it. I could and it could be and i hope... Go ahead. Go ahead. No, I was going to say, and it could be, if there is more than one season, it may well be a he betrays the children. He's actually one of the pirates himself. There's no coincidence. There's no coincidence in the the weapon he uses quite similar to the that the the kind of pistol, the um
00:24:18
Speaker
the flintlocks design that the the pirates are using as well. um His clothing, his garb is quite pirate-esque as well. I just think that I wouldn't be surprised if he sets the kids up for his own for his own gain or to get something out of it. um and the And that going forward,
00:24:41
Speaker
their story keeps intertwining. So the kids then find themselves on their own again, and they hide that they're there not only escaping from from um from the pirates, but they're also escaping from Jude Law as well. And then it may well and they may well over time, it's a typical character development story and actually he's yeah he's become accustomed to the children and he he he really starts to like them and everything and then he does the switcheroo and ends up on their side and saving the day and who knows and yeah yeah that all comes out in the end anyway i i came up with that and then on top of that the other thing i thought of
00:25:19
Speaker
Sorry, do you wanna interject on that first? Cause I got another one. i i I hope he is a bad guy. I yeah i speculate i've speculated i've speculated the same thing of like, it's two, same similar thing of like, he's gaslighting their naivete. Like it's so, it's so like 80s, like ah kids thriller, like you kids you kids don't know what you're in for, you need me to,
00:25:49
Speaker
to show you the ropes. I'm here for it. I think it's fantastic. um It really is the job. The all i can think all i the best way I can explain it is think of him as John Silver. So if you've ever read Treasure Island, if you've seen Treasure Island, John Silver is Jim's friend.
00:26:09
Speaker
is Jim's friend at the very, very beginning of the of the book, of the story, who ends up being, of course, the big bad, albeit there is still this emotional connection between him and Jim. Sorry, carry on. I will say what i don't what I hope, my speculation of what I hope it isn't until after your next comment. Oh, okay. Yeah, my my next comment was, I'm trying to work out what this means, this the the new the information, the slow,
00:26:38
Speaker
or the small tidbits we've been getting from the production crew about the planet that the kids come from, which supposedly they find themselves stranded, lost out there, but nobody has ah any idea of what this planet is. And there's some speculation, um you know could it be in a different universe? Could it be in the same universe as the um is obviously where Ahsoka and those guys are, which would tie that up, which I hope it's not that obvious, but I guess it would it It could bring about the part of the convergence that we're expecting around them in in the man the best but.
00:27:15
Speaker
I kind of wanted it to be a little bit more separate but little bit separate to that at the moment. I'm kind of mandoed out a little bit. um yeah yeah I would like it to be separate. ah and then i think that And then I think about in the trailer, again, that damn trailer, I think about the dad taking a look at the security joy and the and and then and then having to move his head very quickly. There's something there's something going on on on that planet, which seems very tranquil and calm.
00:27:44
Speaker
where the kids came from but something sinister in my mind is that is going on there hence the reason and that could be the reason why the planet isn't known it's been you know wiped off the map the star map for example and maybe and maybe the reason why Jude Law is befriending the kids is because they can get him to that planet. Do you understand what I'm trying to say? It's always connected. So A, a jud is ah Jude dude is ah is is a bad guy. And B, what is his objective? it was His objective is to actually find the kid's planet because there is something, I wouldn't say a treasure, but there is something
00:28:37
Speaker
no one knows where it is. No one knows where it is. And his only connection to that planet or getting there or finding its location is through the kids. I could be talking horseshit, dude. But I've really enjoyed myself. I'm about to double down on your horseshit. I'm about to double down on your horseshit. Here we go.
00:28:55
Speaker
Here's here's the the item that I hope it's not that I will call the groan that I will audibly groan if it is related to I hope that their planet and this story does not relate to I Hope it has nothing to do with the first order or anything that where they go out into the unknown regions and Like this planet has something to do with that. I hope it's not that I hope we don't I Hope it's not but I agree. Simple as that. I hope it's not like, because of my first might, I may have been a little baloneyed up when I was like, I hope these kids aren't, I hope these are their real parents and these kids aren't being trained for the future first order. Then I was like, whoa, wait a minute. that ah That's insane. No, no, no, no, no, no. That would be really bad. But then I'm like, I'm also like, I hope this isn't yada, yada, yada. But then I was like, on the flip side, what if it would be cool if this had something to do with
00:29:54
Speaker
Al Kestis in the Jedi survivor series and the whole way out in the middle middle of F and nowhere people and like wherever Middle where BFE I'll just call BFE like out there. That'd be cool if it had something to do with them So on the flip side of that that would be sick. Oh, I don't it wouldn't it wouldn't explain the um The bad vibes I get from those droids but I like it and I it's something fresh enough and exciting enough to hold my interest. Yeah, the the the first order stuff, because, because it won't happen. Because the Mandalorian did such a weird job in season three of missing the opportunity around cloning.
00:30:52
Speaker
and the return of Palpatine, the explanation of Snoke, which I kind of thought it might have done. I really don't want, I don't think anything else, I almost want everything else to stay away from that at the moment because I think that needs time to gestate and and and somebody to work it out properly. i i want it to be If it did, it ah it would come later in later seasons for sure. Not if not everything is not everything needs to connect.
00:31:28
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not everything needs to get and I really hope it doesn't connect but something like that in particular that helps amplify the really good story that was you know the Jedi survivor and fallen order ah that would be that that would be really really fresh I like that a lot um you know that it was one of the or or the end the end destination. I can't remember the name of the place. so um Because in the bad the bad vibes would be felt because they're trying to they don't want people in and Jude Law could be a pirate. And he's like, I want to get to that place. And the robots could be good robots working to help protect the planet. it But they're over but they're that they're that they're like they're they're like nanny robots. They're a little bit controlling. Yeah, no, I get it. I get it. No, I i do totally get it. um Yeah, i like I like that. I like that.
00:32:16
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ah do I do like that. I hope it's not set on it, obviously. But it would be neat. No. No. And and like, i then again, I still kind of want it to be its own story. I do. so hundred I you know know me, you know, I'm on team stuff, and stuff. And if we get and if we get the if we get the, you know, the forget the cameo of the week, then so be it. You know, I know that uh it happens and sometimes it's a necessary evil but um i also think that it could be its own standalone thing of just a bunch of kids that got lost and they got themselves into shenanigans but anyway yeah no no um' i'm i'm i'm really stoked and i can't wait it's only a couple of weeks away now so i'm i'm really really stoked about uh what's what's to be and it's it's again it's like how i felt about andor um
00:33:12
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before going into it. Obviously how I felt about Andor after the end of it was with two different things, but go but but going into it, I felt really relaxed about Andor because it was such low risk. There was no risk. There was no there was no um there was no threat of it being anything that would thankfully not touch the the the sacred texts, as it were. You know what I mean? Yeah. The next thing in the news, if you're ready to move. No, I'm really cool. I'm just sorry. i'm i'm going um My mind's wondering because I'm really looking forward to this. I really am looking forward to it. I think i have I am more excited about Skeleton Crew than I think I was aware of, and I think
00:34:07
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than I have been for something in a while. I'm excited for all Star Wars, but like Skeleton Crew is probably the most excited I've been in a long time. yeah Not that I've not been excited for other things, but this is like hell, hell yeah. like So excited that I haven't consumed all of the trailers. like I've seen this stuff and I've seen people talking. I'm like not super avoiding it. I just haven't watched.
00:34:31
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No. All the stuff. I've still seen it. I just keep watching that same one over and over again. Yeah. You know the one I'm talking about? You have seen the the the main one, right? The the one with um the one with ah ah where they do the Major Tom. They reinterpret Peter Schilling tracking in Hutties. I think I've seen it and or heard it on podcasts so many times. I've either seen it or I've, like, mended myself so many times that i I've probably Yes, I'm just gonna say yeah. Okay. Yeah, no i just i I just keep watching it over and over and over again. And it just it just makes it just makes me laugh. It just makes me laugh. It's like, oh my God, there are so many people that maybe may or may not implode because it's completely not their bag. But it's exactly exactly what we need at the moment. It's exactly what we need at the moment. I couldn't think of anything at this time.
00:35:24
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in terms of discord across or or or frustration, anger and division across Star Wars as ah as a as a media.
00:35:36
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entity, but also life in general. um And us as human beings, I can't think of anything better than Skeleton Crew. It's going to be great. It's going to be absolutely great. i hope I hope they either stay quiet or they do implode. Those are the options. i've even i've even i've even i've even I've even considered even buying a few of the Black Series, because the Black Series look absolutely sick. And they've spent a lot of time and a lot of tooling on getting this right. And it looks awesome. Absolutely awesome. That dude, Neil.
00:36:06
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that dude Neil just honestly and breathe you need to breathe talk about but i know i know man that i know man but but i'm not talking about the whole collection but but that dude Neil in particular when he's asked to fly the ship and everyone's like Neil really you're gonna choose Neil i just think it's hilarious i think it's absolutely hilarious anyway right sorry mate let's let's let's crack on what what else have you got in the news to believe Wicked comes out tomorrow. We may go see it. I don't know. We'll see. I know you're excited. Nice. Yeah, nice. Nice. Nice. um I'm really looking forward to that. um like I'm looking forward to dropping off loose so Lucy at the cinema to see that.
00:36:49
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ah minecraft A Minecraft trailer dropped, movie trailer dropped, that I was not expecting. I know that's kind of outside of a a lot of our demographics age range is kind of at the tail end of mine. But I know like my niece, my nieces and nephews are really, my neph i have my youngest nephews are really into it. And I'm familiar with the game. Like I played it tail end of college and like, it's just, it's cool that they're making that. and I don't know. I probably won't go see it in the theater, but um I'll catch that.
Minecraft and Movie Anticipations
00:37:19
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It looks pretty funny. It's nice that like Dwayne The Rock Johnson's finally not in something like that. but Yeah, but they squeeze it they squeeze in Jack Black instead, but I get it. um it's it's It's normally the default, isn't it? um if it's If it's going to be... but But no, anyway, the point being is that I
00:37:40
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you know i have a I have a soft spot for Minecraft. I i love the concept. I love the ah love the guys that that that originally conceived the idea. although I love what it's grown into. I love the fact that it's a massive part of STEM now. I love the pat the fact that it's part of it's a huge part of education now, which I think is is really good.
00:38:01
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um And it gets people that kids in particular around, and i'm I'm probably going to too deep and mean and moody about this, but um I love the fact that it it it it it it it facilitates an engagement with children that allows them to build again, as opposed to just consume. And i I love that, I love that that side of it. And that that for me is technology done right.
00:38:30
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um So yeah, and um um i whether I go and see the film or not is is two different things. And it probably will be the complete opposite of of of of what I've just said. But um yeah, no, I wasn't expecting it at all. So yeah, looks it looks looks a riot. It looks looks that's good fun. The next one that I was not expecting, and I have not
00:38:54
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strong feelings on either side, but i i I'm excited. I'm gonna go see it in theaters, is the how to train your dragon in live action. but guyler Bugger, you took one of mine. I love that franchise. I love that franchise. It is my youngest daughters, who is now a 24, nearly 25 year old professional,
00:39:25
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It is still to this day her favorite movie of all time. And you know already we've had this conversation that she's really into the books together as well. um And so I saw this only yesterday. I stuck it up in the Discord yesterday. And it looks identical, albeit live action, to the original film. And I sent it over to Abs and I said,
00:39:54
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Did you know this was happening? And she went, yeah, I did. And they've done a really good job. And it looks identical to the um to the animation.
00:40:07
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But I tell you what, I'm up for it. Of all the of all the things, when when when Avi and I, Avi's quite a geek as well, and we'll talk every now and again about stuff that we like, stuff that we don't, especially, I mean, you know you know that she's heavily into Studio Ghibli as well. And one of the things that we, you know, and some of the, we talk about an awful lot of the remakes, like the remake of The Ryan King or the re remake of the Jungle Book in live action.
00:40:31
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um And some of it, you know, we'll talk, is it necessary? Is it not necessary? It's like, it's kind of like the same story rehashed. It's like, yeah, but it's for a new audience dad. ah You know, the the classic, some of the classics going back, don't don't age that well, don't resonate with, with ah ah as as an animated musical as it would do a live action today. And i I see a point of view in everything. And both of us agreed unilaterally that I don't care if it's as identical. I'm up for this. yeah And we are going to make a weekend out of this when it comes out because I cannot wait. How to Train Your Dragon is right up there for me along with Wally, Moana.
00:41:18
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In fact, more than Moana, but certainly Wally. It's it's yeah it's it's up there. I think that's the thing for me, it's like, i i i have I will openly admit I've never, I usually dismiss a lot of the DreamWorks movies, but the How to Train Your Dragon franchise is pop tier, pop tier franchise. And I, it's not cynicism, it is like, it's it's a challenge I think of saying like,
00:41:48
Speaker
doing it this 15 years ago that movie came out. man so love like it's a child like you That is a high bar that you have you half to nail. ah You can't just make it the same. It can't just match it. You have to exceed it. like Otherwise, like there's so much that could go wrong for them in this, like especially in today's po like climate of fandom and stuff. like
00:42:18
Speaker
It's just so much to make it dour. I am going to go see this. I am excited. I think it's going to be... yeah I hope it just fucking rocks. like Similar to... like i hope they do it I hope they do it because I think there's so many of the Disney ones that they that they but they've done where it's like, oh, we're modernizing. and i'm a fan of mine i'm I'm a fan of modernizing. I'm a fan of the live action because the newer generation needs it. And like, I'm sorry, it's just, yeah it doesn't resonate in a lot of like, I think that some of the modern, like the live action ones don't always resonate with me, but yeah, mine, my, my, uh, little mermaid is my little mermaid, not for any of the weird political reasons, but because I know the songs, my Mulan is my Mulan, but like, I like the modern Lion King and the modern jungle book. I think those are cool. Like it's just, it is, they are what they are. You could take them and believe what you want, but this one is one of those ones where it's like, This is so new that I hope, I really hope they they're putting everything they have into it because that's a very, very high bar to knock it out. What I love a but um it's what i love about it, what what I saw in the ah in the trailer as well that I really, really loved was um the fact that they haven't tried to,
00:43:34
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probably very, very hard actually, but but what they've what they've tried to do is to bring the animated dragons in particular into a realistic environment without over real realistic sizing them. Is that a word? That's not even a word. Without making it too realistic.
00:44:01
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yeah yeah yeah tis is too first i mean it's it i mean It looks amazing, it looks absolutely amazing. And that scene, I mean, it was in floods, it was in absolutely floods. When he reaches out to, he turns away and reaches out to him and toothless bumps him with his nose. Ah, mate, um looking forward to it, looking forward to it. Anything else, bud?
00:44:25
Speaker
That's all my, it's all my news. or Everything else is all consumed. I'll be honest with you, buddy. I'll be honest with you. You've actually, um you've covered a lot. You've covered a heck of a lot of what I had on mine. I did my work really. I two other things. I've got um ah variety.
Gaming Series to TV Challenges
00:44:42
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um Confirm there's a Mass Effect TV series on its way.
00:44:48
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I hope they did that right. look port the Disappointed. Disappointed people. That's going to be. Yeah. Well, you know, you know, making it, you know, I have no idea. um You know, do you know what? That's the only bit I don't have because I don't even think they found ah um Amazon.
00:45:07
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It's Amazon, is it? Yes, that's what this article says on Brady. I just book. Oh, that's good. Oh, I've even got it written down here by by Amazon. I just couldn't see it. um Yeah, no, no. no so um So if they approach it the same way that they did Fallout, then fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. If they approach it, perhaps the way other people have done other franchises. Halo. You can say then and it. war't warm nice Sorry, mate. Sorry, buddy. i i i i
00:45:41
Speaker
It depends on whether they want to if they want to give the creators the flexibility that they have with ah Fallout. Fallout was low risk because it's a story within the Fallout universe. It's it's kind of yeah a part of ah of a larger a larger thing, um which is which is creates no risk. you know it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't make Excuse me a second. It doesn't make the... um it doesn't make the ah it
00:46:11
Speaker
it You're not going to be scrutinized. you know yeah you're not going You're not going to have any scrutinization at all, because quite frankly, it's a take on an untold story. That's the what I'm trying to get to. So we'll see. We'll see. If it goes down the Commander Shepard route, because it's about an individual, because it's about a personal story, then, oh, it's going to be tough.
00:46:37
Speaker
and there's gonna be experts some expectations. There's gonna be some, if they choose a female hero lead, which of course you can do in the game, it's canon guys, it's canon. And in fact, many, many times I've played the the female lead on a Mass Effect 2, my favorite game of all time. um it's going to um It's gonna create some problems or some discord out there.
00:47:02
Speaker
and Anytime you take an 80-hour campaign and boil it down, do a an eight-episode TV series, you're gonna have this, it like, you're gonna miss stuff, and exposition's gonna be lost, and it's right for disappointment. Yeah. wait man And that's why I like the fallout kind of thing. Unless you have a thing unless you have a game that's like ah The Last of Us, where it is story-driven, and the foundation is is the story.
00:47:30
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yeah Like not to say that things like Mass Effect and and Halo aren't story driven. Like they they they have story, but they are not the last of us story driven. Like they need to be more like Fallout where like you have hundreds and hundreds of hours of gameplay that have built a universe and built your love and fascination and and passion about a universe and story. But that's when you need to go maybe more into the, let's be in the universe and adapt if we if we can.
00:47:59
Speaker
Halo's heart is like Master Chief is Halo, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And to a certain degree, um Commander Shepard is Mass Effect, but yeah he or she doesn't have to be. yeah does There are some really good characters that that that that can continue their story beyond Mass Effect 3.
00:48:27
Speaker
um I know they tried to do that with Andromeda, um and it didn't land right, but that was the game, not the not the idea. um So they can they can do something quite clever. well well I don't know any more than that, but that's coming. The last thing the last thing that I picked up on was that um there's a live action Tomb Raider coming out, so Tomb Raider's gonna get the reboot. um At the moment, Sophie Turner looks like she's going to be the... um Looks like that she's going to be the, uh, is the, the favorite to get that role, which I find weird, but yeah not because of the reasons that perhaps some of the bro boys out there are finding a bit weird. There are people that are responding to this news or this rumor, sorry, that say if we turn it is going to take over the
00:49:23
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the role of Lara Croft because, proportionately, um she's ah not built the same way as a pixelated kind sorry pixelated character from a video game, which... um Oh, jog on. Do you know what I mean? It's just like... I hope some of these people, one day, have their own daughters um Or have a kind of meaningful relationship with any woman really because it's like really How how can you I? Don't know I don't know how can you look in a mirror and have and and and openly and publicly have an opinion like that anyway
00:50:13
Speaker
I'm not going to i' not going to focus on nuggetivity. I find it weird because I don't think she's a particularly good actress and it's simple as that. i I am all about positivity and I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and I'm open to new ideas. I just don't think she's a a a particularly um amazing actress. She's she's very um I agree, 100%. She's very British. I hope you understand what I mean by this, but she's very British drama school. She's very British drama school. I think she would be a very good villain in a Lara Croft.
00:50:51
Speaker
yeah Okay, I liked I not not to say that not that i I know that that makes it sound like I'm saying British people make really good villains That's that's not what I do we do that's we do man it's historically that's like in in film nailed it, but I Think it's i I liked where they went with some of the other reboots where They went more scrappy,
00:51:22
Speaker
um they they moved away from that pixelated image. and Oh, i thought the loss I thought the last one was really, really good. um And i I think Sophie Turner is like, she come she comes with, there's like baggage, but not in a bad way. like I don't believe she's a great actor actress either,
00:51:42
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But I think there's also, there is a baggage, not a negative baggage, but there is a an archetype that comes with her already if she steps into that role. And I think that is not an archetype that you do not want to have start with minute zero of the film, be like,
00:51:58
Speaker
Like that it just it affects the whole narrative. Like I just think it's a it's an odd casting. It feels like we're going for a big name and here's who we got. um I thought, I mean, I thought to your point, I thought that Alicia Vikanda was the, um who played Lara in the, um in the Tomb Raider reboot, I thought she did a really, really stunning job, um despite the reception of the film itself. I thought she did a really, really stunning job because she has that she has that vulnerability, but she also has that strength and conviction um tit to bust through that adversity she's going through. um Sophie, in my mind, is a cookie cutter ah British drama school
00:52:52
Speaker
type of actor um where I don't... and i talking i know I know what you're saying. yeah I'm talking about her performance in, I'm ah i'm talking about her performance obviously as as as a youngster in um in ah a Game of Thrones but I'm also looking at the role that she played in X-Men as well. She was obviously Scarlett- Dark Phoenix. Dark Phoenix, sorry. What's her name? Jean Grey. Jean, thank you. Yeah, actually she played Jean.
00:53:29
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um
00:53:32
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and I don't know, I personally think she lacks a
00:53:41
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That's voice. There's a rigidity. There's a rig there's a rigidity there of like, ive yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to and that that's um And that works really, really well. in you know It worked really, really well, for example, i mean in um in the role that she touch that she played in Game of Thrones. It would work really well in ah in ah and um ah in many, many types of what I call a stereotypical kind of British period of production. And I could be completely wrong. And I'm really open open to be proven wrong. But I think it's a weird choice. I i just think it's a really, really weird choice.
00:54:18
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um It feels like a step backwards. We'll see. If I'm honest. No, no, no. I wouldn't say that. I mean, I certainly, I mean, I think it's, you know, I love or hate Angelina Jolie. She kicked it all off, but but that kind of... she She ticks all the boxes for young... men at the time that expected a Lara Croft to be a certain way and look a certain way. And it's just like, yeah, but but you know, where we're in 2024 now and we need something a little bit more, a little bit more nuanced, a little bit more. I think it begs the question, what do you what do you want out of a Tomb Raider? What do they want out of a Tomb Raider movie?
00:55:19
Speaker
Well, also, I guess what do I want out of a Tomb Raider movie? know i certainly don't want I certainly wouldn't want an Angelina Jolie. And and um ah yeah, and I could be completely wrong about Sophie Tiller. Just a weird, just a really, really odd choice. Really, really odd choice for me when there are so many strong and I tell you, it would have been really, really good. Really, really good. And I'm trying to remember her name now. And she's actually in Andor and I've seen her in Bix.
00:55:48
Speaker
No, theford the lady that plays Mon Mothma's... The girl that plays la Mon Mothma's niece or cousin, sorry. I'm trying to think of her name. She's really, really good. She also was in Game of Thrones. She was the... Faye Marcy.
00:56:12
Speaker
um Faye Marcy that played Val. um she's really really good and i thought she would because i want she's she's got that something there's a grit there's a grit that is grit yeah exactly exactly that that i want out of a hardness to her exactly that it's a hardness to her i want tomb raider a tomb raider franchise to succeed because like i see tomb raider as like a modern Indiana Jones minus some of the camp. like i and i want like it's a it's a I mean, there's still a lot of camp in Tomb Raider, but like I would love it if it became a grittier story driven. To me, it has that potential with the right yeah the right lead who can just make it really blossom yeah and you really take it really take it places. um
00:57:13
Speaker
like Like kind of like a Captain America. I see it like a Captain America. Like Captain America is like this thing that exists before the movies. It's like he is cheesy comic book, stereotypical patriotism, but then you have like the right writing and the right character and it's like the right actor and it's like, holy crap, I did not realize what this could become.
00:57:35
Speaker
I see the same thing for Tomb Raider. And it's like, you get the right person and the right writing. And I don't think no shade to Sophie Turner. I just don't think she's right for this role. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, I know. I've actually just changed my choice if I was casting director, Jodie Comer.
00:57:59
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um She
00:58:03
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played the assassin or the, you know, the, the, the partner of, well, what ends up being the partner of friends, also enemy of Sandra Oh, in Killing Eve, if you've ever seen Killing Eve, she's phenomenal, absolutely phenomenal. And she's got that screen gravitas and that grit to hold your attention and to, and to live
00:58:35
Speaker
She's also does batshit crazy extremely well extremely well on screen I Yeah, if you're gonna spend money then that's the type of person I guess I probably would have Would have would have would have wanted or would have expected she's right again. I could be ready could be raised mom. I don't know that Yeah, yeah I can't I can't Listen, I'm not a judge. I'm open to everything. And I can't believe it's someone like Amazon. Sorry, I don't even know who's doing it for Tomb Raider. I don't even know who's doing it. God, we came prepared, didn't we? I'll be honest, this is 20 minutes more than I thought I'd be talking about Tomb Raider today. But I'm here for it.
00:59:29
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Ah.
00:59:32
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Oh, I don't know. I think now I'm gonna sit there and spend i spend the rest of my day. know and why know it's it's though it's all it's a shaman as well Again, going back to going back to God, they are they are really churning out. aren they um Yeah, it's um Yeah, at the end of the day,
00:59:54
Speaker
You know, um if they're putting as much, if you've got the same kind of attention to detail love that they're putting into this, that they're putting into, again, we talked about mass effect and also prior, obviously, what we already know is with Fallout, then they clearly aren't going to cast irresponsibly. So clearly,
01:00:17
Speaker
They've seen something, so... What the fuck do you know yeah we're bunch of dumbie I We've wasted minutes. Sorry, mate. My fault. That's all right. I enjoyed it. that was that That's lost the last of the news. We're not getting our hopes up. Yeah. um That's the last of the news. Consuming, my friend. what have What have you been up to? Final note is the best is if we were like, so are you going to watch it and be like, no, no, I'm not going to watch that.
01:00:44
Speaker
yeah ah No, watch it. No, I'll watch it. I'll watch it. I will definitely watch it. Definitely watch it. All right. All right. So I know you're I know you're on a time crunch. So I will try to get through some of these really quickly. I'll just say briefly. I I did watch the family the family watched flow. But I will reserve if there's no pressing commentary. I do think you your family, including the cats should watch it at some point. No rush. We could chat about it when the time comes. It's a it's ah It's a good background thing. I will say for the viewers, Scoop, one of our cats, ah sat literally three inches from the television the entire time and watched this entire movie. um It's the one with the animated cats and the other animals, no talking, yada, yada, yada. I won't ruin it for people. It was really, it was good. It was good. um The other, I have not watched Say Nothing yet. We have not had a chance to do that.
01:01:43
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um I will save the big one for the last. The other thing I started was I so i watched episode one of Dune Prophecy, aka a Game of Worms, is what I'm calling it. What do you think? I can talk about this with you. this isn't We don't have to hold back on this. What did you think?
01:02:02
Speaker
So i have i have three I have three notes, like three notes that I actually wrote, but I have a lot more thoughts. One, Desmond looks like Chris Hall. So I'm happy for Chris for getting an acting ah on on a on this on the show. I love a good cocaine CGI reference. Hell yeah. I think that's awesome. I think it's i think it was spice or something like that. I think that was hilarious. um And but my question for you being the resident dune expert is,
01:02:31
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This show is supposed to take place in 10,000 years.
Exploring the Dune Universe
01:02:36
Speaker
Like it surprised. This is not a spoiler. This is like intro monologue pieces. It's like the beginning, like AI got crazy, bought humans, humans defeated robots. That's the humans not okay with AI anymore. This takes place like 10,000 years before like the Dune movies.
01:02:56
Speaker
My question is, why has technology progressed so little between this and the Dune movies? Because they still have the the vibro shield things. They have like all of the same kind of technologies 10,000 years before Dune like I just like is it just kind of like static and it's like that's the what that point um a lot of it's a lot of its analog that's the point a lot of it is now analog so uh what you'll see um um what you'll see coming from obviously this is the start of the Bene Gesserit which is basically the
01:03:36
Speaker
this history hood that put it upon themselves to control the line, to control the royal bloodlines by manipulation, ah with the view eventually to control the galaxy.
01:03:50
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they The technology pretty much remains consistent, although it It kind of, there is nothing really net new in technology going forward, although things like capacity of the the abilities of the um of the guild navigators that bend space, that they manipulate themselves with spices or to bend space, and to be able to take people from one place, part of the galaxy to the other, that develops over this time as well, a lot, a lot in know in a lot grander scale.
01:04:29
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But pretty much what you see at the moment is pretty much the same kind of environment, albeit on a lesser scale. so So, for example, Araki, the capital city, is nowhere near as big um as it is eventually. But, you know, the Fremen, are there everything's pretty much the same. To your point, the technology hasn't moved on because it's all analog. um It's not it's not you know that there are no, that nothing is is with ah intelligence. i mean You look at the book that Paul Atreides uses, albeit has an audible element to it. It's very much a traditional book that he uses in the Denis Villeneuve books. so what happens So technology pretty much stays static, but evolution accelerates as well.
01:05:17
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So, for example, an awful lot of the computing that happens, that typically would have happened in microcomputers and um with with with AI, are done by people, are done by a race of people called the Mentats, which are the human computers, and they develop and they get um And they become as dependent, sorry, they become as dependable as the Bene Gesserit do for the royal households and the elite. So if you think of if you think of on one side, a a king and Emperor Baron or ah or a cast member would have a Bene Gesserit as their advisor as their counsel to um disseminate the truth from people to make sure that they're not being sabotaged anyway, but but make sure they're not
01:06:04
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receiving any untruths, on the right-hand side of that same person you'd also find a Mementaff as well, a human computer. um you'll remember in the if You might remember in the first film, there was a big guy there that um was asked, Duke Leto asked him a question about numbers and his eyes rolled up into his head and he came back with a number, which nobody can comp compute. Nobody can compute. That was a mentor. And so while you might not see an awful lot of evolution, sorry, ah progression in terms of technology, that's because of the wall. An awful lot of the technology
01:06:41
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and independent thinking technology is illegal. It's banned. yeah um Hence the reason why evolution as a species takes precedence over over that. that's the only That's the best explanation I've got, mate. Overall, my my general thoughts on the show is I'm i'm i'm enjoying it so far. I will say like kind of everything you said it's It's different than what I expected, but it's in a good way. like I like that they're not going... I think my my initial thought was going in that they're going to say, oh, we're going to be very low, low on the mysticism, low on the abilities, and then you're going to see how that's developed. It's like, no, they hit the ground saying, hey,
01:07:21
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We can already do the the the yelling voice thing. We've already got the technology. We can already kind of do the... It was mine though it was new though. Do you remember? it was and it was ah It was a new scale that she was learning. but but it but but i but My point is, is like it's not getting into this like weird very stereotypical political intrigue, very House of Cards, Game of Thrones. It's like, it's very leaning, heavily leaning into the, it's that plus the mysticism element of like fate.
01:07:56
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um learning that there is more going on and not just, we ah we don't have any abilities and now we've learned the abilities. It's it's more like, it's you you start not at zero, like we're starting at 10 and it's figuring a lot of that out. I think i think just the first episode, like it's not it's not that slow burn. It's like, we're we're getting into the more of the the weird nuance. It's like, Arrakis is already involved. We've already got an Atreides. We've already got the Harkon.
01:08:28
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what The part that's mind-blowing to me is it's like, dude, what what happens for the next 10,000 years that the same crap is still going on? like it's that's what I think it makes it interesting, though, too. It's like and's so much more complicated and nuanced, and it's almost more real life. and like It's not as simple as a galactic empire, and ah a single shot blows it up, and everything's all all different. It's like, yeah, big houses are the big houses and it's more mysticism and yeahda yada yada yada. I mean, I mean, this is this is I mean, when you get to Emperor Padashan, Padashan and Padashan. Anyway, the the guy that the dude that Christopher welcome played in the second film, when you get to his point, it's kind of like this is the whole this is the whole problem is that you've basically got this
01:09:23
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I wouldn't say puppet emperor, but this disinterested emperor that only really cares about um only really cares about the linear, this is the the the the continuation of their opulence and their and and their and her luxury, um doesn't really care about the common man as long as the spice still flows, um doesn't really care about their subjects. And in fact, is quite happy to put their his um his his his dukes or his um his his deputies put them against each other in order to it's a very cesarean kind of ah kind of rule which is like you take your generals and you get them to fight amongst each other so that no so that there's no collection of power which ultimately is a is a is a bad management style as we all know
01:10:17
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and typically ends up in in um in in failure. But it's kind of like that's half the problem is that the galaxy, you know, this 10,000 years creates a ah tradition, if you like, just creates a permanence of the haves, the haves not the wealth, and the increase in power, the dependence on spice,
01:10:43
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depends on people that control spice. um you know there's There's intrigue so that they need to rely on a sisterhood in order to cut through that intrigue. Everyone's suspicious of each other and it goes on for 10,000 years. Now you might say that's unrealistic. It may well be unrealistic, but that's kind of like the point being is that when you get to paul's pool when you get to Paul, it's kind of like this is something new. This is something new because over that 10,000 years, you know myth has been created as as grown about you know the Hazat Zidat.
01:11:18
Speaker
as up to that that super the supreme being that will change everything. And um even then, you know, as you'll find, as you'll find as um with the yeah with Denise last film, even then it's not, you know, there is humans are shit. They're just shit. Anyway, yeah, no, I really enjoyed it, but I enjoyed it as well. I really, really enjoyed it. I really, really enjoyed it. And I really enjoyed it because it did it right.
01:11:50
Speaker
It did it right. I was a little bit i was a little bit um thrown out of kilter because that because what what i love about um what I love about June is that it is so it is so fantastical and it is so and yet so
01:12:09
Speaker
The universe is so regressed in many, many ways, ah the traditions, the formalities. yeah you know It takes me back to you know takes me back to, I wouldn't say the middle ages, but certainly takes me back to 17, 1800s UK, for example. A lot of the formalities, that that the the the clothing styles, but you know the way that they dance, the way they engage with each other, the way that women wear their hair where they wear their wear veils,
01:12:35
Speaker
their faces veiled. It's very, very, um it's a very, very male male, you know, very old school may and Frank Herbert, if you read his books, he was women were were very much objectivized um in that and seen as the the inferior purposely as part of the of the book, as part of the narrative was seen as very much a um ah tool.
01:13:02
Speaker
at all and something and a possession. And then we saw that scene where they went out to the nightclub. And that threw me a little bit. That's the only thing that threw me a little bit. And I'm okay with it. They're going to be wrong. I'm okay with it. It felt out of place, bearing in mind the environment. And I'm not saying that all kids kick back and cut loose. And I'm like, yeah, that's not a problem. But it just seems really, really weird that there's that there's that environment of of um of hedonism, if you like, with in with four kids that are brought up through the cast system. it it seemed It seemed really, really odd to me. I was cool with it, I was absolutely cool with it, but it just seemed really, really strange to me. Rest of it I thought was amazing, absolutely amazing. i I think they did it exactly right. I know,
01:14:02
Speaker
Or i'm i've I've got a really good guess. There's a lot of people that will be watching this. A lot of certain type of people are watching this and thinking, oh God, it's boring. And B, why are they focusing so much on on this group of women. And I'm so glad they weren't afraid to do something more fantastical, more action back to the rest of it, because it sets up exactly, exactly where it should be. And if people don't like it, don't fucking watch it, because this isn't for you. I loved it in the same way. I like that they're not stepping away from the weird. Because to me, Dune has a level of weird that it has. I like that they're not stepping away from it.
01:14:48
Speaker
It's like no it's it's got weird. It's like it's like a patina on it. I always compare it to like brutalist architecture. Like there's just something about it. It's just kind of like meh, like skewed a little bit. That's how I see Dune. And I like that the show has it like like and I think that's your point. That ending scene where they're at the club. It's like it it feels removed. It feels very canto bite. It feels very. ah Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't step away. It's like, oh, I'm sure they'll do something with it, but.
01:15:18
Speaker
it doesn't um doesn't i don't know doesn' It doesn't feel integrated. it doesn't it doesn't feel it It feels integrated. It feels like something out of cyberpunk.
01:15:35
Speaker
and not something out of doom with, you know, with high law, you know, high law, high fashion, high, everything is everything is absolutely um um ah diamond cut. But now going back to it, but I loved it, I absolutely loved it. And it was a really, really lovingly for me, slow episode, to set us up and to set to set up out the you know the players. Here are the players. um And I thought it was beautifully done. and Had they come in with shooty, shooty, wormy, wormy, excitement, excitement.
01:16:12
Speaker
um I probably still would have enjoyed it, but I've enjoyed it in a different way. And I think that what they're doing here is exactly right. And its it takes, you know, guys, it takes a little bit of fucking intelligence to actually understand what's going on. Sorry, guys, but that's the way it is. That's the way that June has always been. And I love it. I love it for that. um So yeah, if there's a few folks that don't like it, then that's fine. It's not, it's not, you know, different, different strokes, different folks.
01:16:38
Speaker
Uh, I'm fine with that, but don't berate it because at the moment I'm, I think it's great. And I feel the same way about it as I probably did a lot of acolyte as well in that the focus on the different, the focus is on extremely empowered and clever women. Um, yeah, I loved it. I loved it, man. Anything else, mate?
01:17:05
Speaker
I am completely caught up on Arcane, but I think we can probably save it. We can save that if you want. ah you Are you season two caught up as well? I am completely caught up. I am ready for the final three episodes this weekend. Right. We can we can we can we can carry over a little bit. what Anything else you saw, apart from Arcane? Because i I need to talk to you about Arcane.
01:17:33
Speaker
No, I did not see anything else. I have watched a lot of Arkane and I am sick of hearing that effing song that ah you been God okay. Okay. But what have you what have you watched? So so um over the weekend, Deadpool and Wolverine landed on Disney Plus. ah ah We were battered on Saturday evening after that long journey. So we ended up watching that with Chloe.
01:17:59
Speaker
um And that was good fun, just watching that again. and i did i I watched it again and I was like, yeah, this has got legs. It deserved what it made in in the box office. It's it's really quite, ah it really has kind of reinvigorated an awful lot of how I felt in, sorry, reinvigorated an awful lot in me about how I felt about um superhero movies at the moment. So that was good.
01:18:24
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um
01:18:28
Speaker
Shrinking series two. Love it. Absolutely love it. um Silo series two. So Silo um also ah series two released on ah last week on Apple apple apple TV Plus. And um I watched the first episode of series two. Looks great. Looks really, really good. It takes our hero and hero. I hate heroine, sorry. Our hero beyond the initial Silo that she was based in to
01:18:59
Speaker
other reaches, another and the silo as well and the story continues and it looks really, really good. Really high high production values again and I'm really looking forward to that. I won't ah won't talk to it because um ah you and I haven't been able to talk about about that up until now. ah Listening to, um I follow a guy on ah
01:19:27
Speaker
Well, on Facebook and where basically he's got, his he's a big Instagrammer, big TikToker, and he's called Garren No-One. he's the He's the Irish guy that occasionally you and I will exchange. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, he's been pushed so hard he started his own pod. Are you aware of that? He's now got a podcast. Okay, he's only I think he's only seven or eight episodes in,
01:19:54
Speaker
But he's basically got a podcast that's um focused on having guests on. Good result. um And he asked them about their favorite snack.
01:20:06
Speaker
their favorite drink and their favorite meal. And that's that's the whole premise of the entire podcast. And it's just, I just find it my delight to to listen to. He could be talking about the clips that I've seen of him talking with random people about mixing tea and stuff that makes he talks about oh when he talk what he when he talks about the you guys in the US s making up a cup of tea. It's hilarious. so um
01:20:30
Speaker
But yeah, no, he's hes started he started up his own podcast called Listen, I'm Delicious. um And I recommend it if you like his kind of take. I think he's delightful. And um he makes me laugh. And he's permanently taking the piss out of the English, so I find him even funnier. Which leaves, so I've also seen June Prophecy, which we've just spoken about.
01:20:54
Speaker
uh which leaves the wild robot sorry my apologies um because of your recommendation i got to see the wild robot with lucy just the two of us and uh mate we're in flood of tears and get and the cat and the cat and the cat and the cat sorry yes yes yes yes i sent i sent shawn a um i sent shawn a a picture of of of our cat b um she fell in love with the program and just sat with us um for two hours worth of great animation and just didn't take her eyes off the screen once. So that was that was quite funny. um But yeah, the Wild Robot guys, if you if you haven't seen that, I thoroughly recommend it. Again, it's another DreamWorks production. um And it's the same kind of getting you in the fields kind of... um
01:21:46
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ah
01:21:49
Speaker
Production values that how train your dragon did not the more comedic kind of stuff that um you' You'd see from something like That minions and think Yeah minions or um what's the what's the what's the animal one the zoo one? um Casablanca not Casablanca. Um, what's it called? Like I say Yeah, what's the what? Come on, come on. What's the what's the what's the what's the one? then Anyway, yeah, it is. It is. ah It's very, very, very good indeed. That's why I'm getting tired now. And ah yeah, it's good. And it's a story of um
01:22:37
Speaker
a robot, ah robot um a home a home robot, a maintenance robot, a um a robot that's been designed to service a family ah and it gets stranded on a desert on a desert island and it um finds a new ah new purpose in life in be perhaps and befriending the local wildlife and becomes a pivotal part of their survival and and coexistence. and it's It's beautiful, absolutely an amazing amazing film, and very and and and at times extremely sad. You think you know what it's going to be, but you don't.
01:23:18
Speaker
You don't know what it's going to be. You don't know. I mean, to your point, it's quite brutal in places. I mean, it's it's kind of like there there are some there are some Bambi mum moments in there. um And um yeah, it's it's but but yeah, really, really good. Really, really great recommendation. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Sean. That was that that was very, very cool indeed, which leaves I'm going to do a whole episode on this because this is my favorite animation of all time ever.
Arcane Discussion
01:23:46
Speaker
But I do want to talk to you. I cannot ignore the fact that you've burnt through Arcane.
01:23:52
Speaker
Tell me what you think, mate. I will. I want to save. And I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, let's have an agreement. Let's have an agreement. Next weekend, we've got our buddy, we've got our buddy Catherine McCall.
01:24:09
Speaker
yes The following week, we'll dedicate it, because we would have seen the end of Season 2, which is the finale of the whole thing, we'll dedicate that episode to doing a proper deep dive on Arkane. Does that work for you?
01:24:24
Speaker
Yeah. we can i That's what I'm saying. I think we can do a full show in a season two in the future. Because I think that the finale is this weekend in a couple of days. Yeah. So, OK. Tell me what you think, man. And do you understand why I love it so much? I have. I mean, it's a great story. I'm going to specifically talk about season one. Yeah.
01:24:48
Speaker
um i i like i really i really I really enjoyed it. I fucking hate the theme song. I I was never one who like really disliked Imagine Dragons. Isn't that who it is? Yeah. But yeah the second they played it in the episode as like the band, I'm like, that was it. That was it for me. Just ignore it. Just ignore it. It's five minutes of your life.
01:25:18
Speaker
That was, okay, so now I'm done with that complaint. In terms of like the show, season one really, really, really did a lot for me. I really loved the wow animation the animation style. I really liked the character building. I really liked the i do i don't i didn't I don't have sisters, I don't have kids. I like the dynamic and the interaction between the the sisters growing up um in the beginning. And by the way, I'm not gonna talk about major spoilers, but if you haven't seen it, like don't listen to this. um um And liked how that story kind of transcended. I have a lot of,
01:26:04
Speaker
additional thoughts that I'm going to say about the series as a whole and what I think, not necessarily positive or negative, but what I think about some of the the overarching thoughts. I'll save those for the future episode. But I really i really liked season one in Encapsulation. I thought pacing was great. I thought the story was great. I thought the world building was really, was really really good.
01:26:29
Speaker
um I don't think it overstretched in any ways. I think it I think it did a really good job at kind of describing and kind of we world. I keep saying world building of like world building in a way that's like
01:26:51
Speaker
there was always a reason to keep watching the next episode of like, you didn't feel like there was not filler, but like exposition for the sake of exposition. Like it was really well strung together. um Like the beats kind of kept hitting and there was always something exciting happening and the emotional depth was there. Was it perfect? I don't think it was perfect. I wish the show wouldn't lean on modern music so much.
01:27:20
Speaker
ah uh hint or spoiler for season two criticisms um but not that that wasn't as bad on season one but i think it was fantastic i think i think yeah that's actually that's a good point actually that's a good point lucy lucy again this is one of those things one of those one of those every so often only every so often moments where and always one um And there've been others as well where we'll sit down and align. The stars will align and we'll really enjoy it. She loves Arkane with me. um Season two, she's like, they're really juicing that the the current talent rather than creating their own score. And I do agree with her at that point. um I just fucking love it. I'm just blind drunk with the whole thing.
01:28:23
Speaker
I have things for season two, I have things I very strongly like, but I have some very pointed criticisms of season two as well. But what's the um I'm gonna save those for when it finishes. ok um Because I do think it's a bigger a bigger picture thing as well. I just love the lore. I love the lore, I love the world building, I love the cast system, I love the... i love the the And then on top of that, i love the fucking emotion that these clever animators and clever voice artists have been able to portray um the characters and the character development. And um I love the way that, you know, the you've got these two aress actors play the sisters.
01:29:22
Speaker
with so much raw emotion, especially jinx, especially jinx. And the way that they've taken this extremely clever actor and animated her character. And then on top of that, superimpose a different style of animation.
01:29:44
Speaker
in order to in order to convey the mental anguish, turmoil and anger that this girl is going through, I think is fucking phenomenal. In particular, you know that that there there is in season one, it's pretty much ah a ah there is a defined and li there is a defined animation style.
01:30:07
Speaker
which I already think is absolutely perfect. And they overlay that when you get inside Jinx's head with this, you know with this I was about to say, into the spider verse kind of blending of animation styles to convey to convey this this the the mental anguish that this girl's going through. And it's just like, it's fucking market it's absolute it's an absolute bloody masterpiece.
01:30:36
Speaker
um because it it it conveys it so effectively. without without If they hadn't done that, if they'd have literally kept the same um animation style during during some of the more introverted moments that she was going through, it wouldn't have worked as well.
01:30:57
Speaker
And it's that it's that side of the art that i really that really, really came across for me and landed. And like I said, the story itself, I think is pretty cool. um I must admit, I'm getting confused with season two. It's getting a lot more etheral, a lot more etheral. And I'm like, so how did that happen? How did that happen? And I need to go back. I felt... it it I really appreciate it. Going back won't help. Going back won't help.
01:31:26
Speaker
I I have gone back. um And it's not you know, um' it's no no i'm gay it's not a you problem. Yes, I know that I have I have my notes written right here. And I know exactly what you're talking about. You know, you don't get it. We had a relatively progressive story in um I mean, it you know, we're talking about the hex to development of the hex gate and hex tech and all that kind of stuff. And then hex take is is taking on this new is is evolving and I don't understand what it's evolving to is it is it the arcane or is it
01:32:13
Speaker
Is it Hextech that's the and enabler? i that There's a whole bunch of stuff there that I need to... I'm sure I'll work it out. Or indeed, the last three episodes will make it a lot more clear. But at the moment, it's gone a little bit... um How can I put it? um It's almost like the the the the first season was the first...
01:32:34
Speaker
the first two hours of 2001 A Space Odyssey and second season is the last hour of 2001 A Space Odyssey, whatever it is, you know what I mean? and that it's gone it's gone It's gone very ethereal now. we've gone we've gone we've gone through the we've gone through the ah We've gone down a rabbit hole. we've we've we've gone And it so you're you're so love you're saying it a lot and saying it a lot nicer than I am. I am enjoying it. The last three have made me enjoy it a lot more. The really first three the first three of season two, like i I was firmly and kind of in a stance of like, season one was like the artistic proof of concept, like kind of like,
01:33:16
Speaker
Look what we look what we've made like look at what we can do like this Like it was this blending of like a vision art storytelling Proposed to a business and then the business was like, all right We we feel this and then like the first three episodes of season two like I felt like they're I felt like I was sitting in a room and with like sticky notes on a whiteboard of a of a business meeting saying, we're about to make this a universe. like We're about to make this a franchise. yeah how can we make How can we take that season one, I'll throw air quotes, masterpiece, that was a huge hit. And how can we make this ah the the biggest thing since whatever? Well, this is this is don't forget, and I could be completely wrong here, but my understanding is this is a prequel.
01:34:14
Speaker
to the game. yeah yeah it's in connecting all of the this this essentially This journey that we're going through at the moment, at the end of season two, leads us to the world that is left for the game to take over. So they're somewhat hampered as to what they can do and what they have to do, I guess. But at the moment, I've got no idea. I've got just no fucking idea what's going on. See, I'm i'm living in the world. I'm maybe this is my blissful ignorance of like, I'm currently living in the world where like, the game is, um'm I'm hoping the game is the inspiration. But they're just I'm hoping they're disconnected because the game is just
01:35:03
Speaker
It's like twisted metal. It's ridiculous. like it's just It's insanity. Everything is like a trope and and and insanity. And I and i think if it if it does truly stick to that, then I think that really puts a pin on the kind of the vi and jinx story because then you know you know where it goes and like there is no there's no and then that i think that would just be like not that i think it's going to go one way or the other especially with but especially with what with what just happened
01:35:35
Speaker
But I think I was very frustrated with those first three. I'm like, the overuse of modern music just with this kind of... Yeah, no, I get that.
01:35:47
Speaker
There was even a part of one of those episodes where they had clips that they reused in the same music montage, where they showed the same crowd doing clips that they reused. They reused it to lengthen it to fit the song, but then I think they've come around the second episode. Oh, was this an episode one with the funeral?
01:36:11
Speaker
It was, I think it was, I think it was episode three. I think it was right around the time when they started doing more of the Jinxians, like where like all of a sudden like you black out and you wake up and it's like, wait, what happened? yeah Where are all these like yeah warriors groups coming from that we're talking about? And there's like Jinxians and there's this one group who now all of a sudden matters, but they don't matter. And yeah that one group doesn't exist. Now they're back, they they exist, but they don't exist. And it's,
01:36:41
Speaker
I just, I felt like the business got way too involved in this beginning of season two. They're like, we gotta, we gotta make, we gotta make everybody have a huge storyline. And I feel like they lost some of that, but I feel like they're getting it, they're compressing it back down again. It's insane. Like it's wild what they've been able to do in five and six. I just think they've gone, what I found
01:37:11
Speaker
So yeah, i I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying, and um I agree with it the most part for season two. My biggest concern for season two is that they've gone from a relatively linear progression with season one, following three different stories in a parallel in in parallel to each other that converged right at the end of the season to what they've done here is that they've gone diametrically apart from each other. Do you know what I mean? that they um yeah they've They've gone... that they and And that might be the intent. It might be a tent is that what you're left with at the end of season two is it's fucking chaos. It's absolute chaos. And, you know, welcome to now come by our game.
01:38:08
Speaker
um And that will be disappointing. I'll be brutally honest. That'll be disappointing. Yeah, and it would, you know, I, yeah. No, I'm with you, man. It's still beautiful. yeah And i I like the stuff that they are doing along the way, especially the introduction of the way they've been handling Jinx and Vi and Caitlin. And I already forgot the little one's name. Maddie can go kick rocks, but like,
01:38:40
Speaker
There's just, like, I like some of the that nuance there. um It'll be interesting to see what happens. All that other story, all those other stories are just like, whoa. The siren scream at the end was haunting. I will say that. Yeah, like all that. I'll, we'll deep dive this ah once you've got the finale.
01:39:07
Speaker
we will deep dive this. I do ah do have to, it is, I am cooking this evening. It's time for yeah yeah you. I do have to go. However, there's one thing I forgot to tell you. I started watching Megalopolis.
01:39:22
Speaker
he And I am gonna finish. I am gonna finish, but I did laugh, I did have a laugh to myself the other day.
01:39:36
Speaker
I have finished, I jumped off Megalopolis, pretty much exactly the same time point as I jumped off Rebel Moon Director's Cut part two. um It's gonna need some concentration, mate, it really is.
Megalopolis and Creative Gratitude
01:39:55
Speaker
um And it looks beautiful, it looks absolutely amazing. But there's a couple of things, there's a couple of things I'll say before, because you'll know where I jumped off actually. There's a couple of things that I feel, I don't know how I feel about it. One is the over objectification of women at the beginning of the, from what I've seen so far, which is being construed as in, if I'm, I hope I'm smart enough, but I don't think I am to understand it. I think it's,
01:40:32
Speaker
they're trying to do a take on the class system. And in particular, the way that women were treated, perceived and indeed held themselves during ancient Rome. um But the over objectification of it, the very beginning of it so far, made me feel a little bit uncomfortable. And it's like, it's like, at what point do you say, this is the, this is the, this is it in the mind of a,
01:41:02
Speaker
of ah of a creative genius in Francis Ford Coppola. And then you hear about some of the stuff that happened on set behind the scenes. It's like, yeah, I'm not i'm not sure.
01:41:21
Speaker
And that's a personal thing. This is a personal thing. yeah yeah And again, and again, and with all this kind of stuff, I think about, you know, I'm an oh i'm an ah i'm in ah i'm an old dad. And I think about, you know, how would I feel?
01:41:33
Speaker
you know, faced a lot of shit, you know, with, with despite it being 2024 with my like girls going into the into the jobs and the education that they wanted to do, still being very, very male dominated and I don't know, it's just, and at what point do you get away with that kind of objectification because it's art?
01:41:57
Speaker
And I don't know, man. Anyway, there was there was that. And then secondly, I just thought that there's my favorite kind of art is a kind of subtle, cerebral type of art that really makes you think. And sometimes I find that some arts, which which will appeal to some people, arts in the by the in the eyes of a holder.
01:42:20
Speaker
um some of Some of the art that other people like, I don't like and that's that's great because we're all different. um But some some art that is out there for the sake of it being arty, I find sometimes for me, it comes over as being ah a little bit pretentious and actually a little bit shit. So at the moment, I don't know. I don't know how I feel about it. I am going to press on because I feel as if I have i no, I feel as if I need to persevere i like because I want to. And then at the end of it, you know, it's like it's like having a good meal, you have the full meal, you don't have the starter, you have
01:42:58
Speaker
the full meal to get the experience. and um um um I'll make my mind out once I've finished it, and I will finish it, I promise you, but at the moment, it needs an awful lot of um it's but an awful lot of brain power from me at the moment to to watch it and understand it.
01:43:15
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Yeah, i thought the I don't, I mean, I'll be honest, I don't know if there's any understanding it, but I understand the, you got to focus. It's a lift. Yeah. if gay is If you understand it, let me know, because I'd love to pick your brain. Excellent. Won't take you long. Okay, mate. Well, thank you very much again for these, these as you know, with my little oasis during the week, especially on the middle of the week. um Thank you again for recording with me. Appreciate you having the time to fuck around with your day when I'm ah when i'm normally messing you around with with with timetables and stuff. So I really appreciate it, mate. And thank you everyone for listening to our ah shtick again. In a week and a bit, so in a week and two days, we hope to have our good buddy Catherine Nene on the call with us talking about
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celebration again, but also um to let her off the leash and ah to get to find out how she's really feeling about Andor season two coming up. So thank you guys. um Look after each other. Look after yourselves. Sean Buddy, take us out, mate. Thanks everybody. If you like what you heard,
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But until next time. I think you just found the title. I think you just found the title, mate. Game of Worms. I love it. Game of Worms. Game of Worms. There you go. That's what I'm calling Dune Prophecy. Now it's Game of Worms. In the bag. Bye, guys. Bye.