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Episode 046 - Road to Celebration 2 (Catherine's Version)
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Part 2 of our Road to Celebration series with special guest, Catherine Kneen from That Geek Pod.
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Appearance
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello, and welcome to a very, very special episode of Just Shillin'. It's episode number 46, and I am one of your hosts, Sean Hoffman. And I am your other host, Andy Bell. And today, folks, we're going to get back on that road for the next mile of the road to celebration. And we have an extraordinarily important guest today. It's your friend and ours. We've got Catherine Nene, darling in from Melbourne, Australia. Hey, Catherine. Hey, everybody. Yes, Melbourne's doing its Melbourne-est. It was boiling hot yesterday and now it's raining today.
00:00:41
Speaker
Melbourne, England. I wish it was out here. I was going to say the same thing, actually. It's permanently cold at the moment and quite dreary. A single day of niceness would be good over here. It's like a car you're keeping though, Catherine. Yeah, good, good.
Education and Events in Melbourne
00:00:56
Speaker
I mean, this strange zone at school where the 2024 school year has ended, but we start 2025 on Monday. So it's all gearing up again.
00:01:10
Speaker
Yeah, we have two weeks of 2025. We call it Head Start. It's like a transition period. And so, yeah, we start teaching classes. It's two weeks of content and then we hit um the summer holidays.
00:01:27
Speaker
Oh, wow. yeah yeah They take let living in the future very seriously, Andy. Yes, they do, don't they? um do it And am I right in saying you then don't go back until the is it the end of January?
00:01:41
Speaker
Yes. So we've got like two weeks left of classes, three weeks left of having to be at school. And then um we go back after the 26th of January because that's the public holiday for um Australia Day. um So we go back after that. Yes. Okay.
00:02:08
Speaker
Okay. Well, yeah as I said to, um, no, that's all good. God, I could, I feel like, I know it would just come back from a holiday, but I i could do with the holiday at the moment in time. Right. As I said to, um, as I said earlier on on the intro, uh, we're going to get back on the road, um, to talk about celebration Japan in April of 2025.
00:02:32
Speaker
But before we do that, um in traditional fashion, what we're going to do is a very, very condensed version of what we normally go through every week. And um I thought we'd go round-robin as to what we've been up to over the last week. In your case, Catherine, you can talk about weeks, plural. What news we might have been picked picked up? What in particular has has tickled our fancy and got us excited?
00:03:01
Speaker
um However, normally I would go to our esteemed guest first. and I'm not going to do that this week because I have a sneaking feeling that something some or rather someone that has recently been in the news that our esteemed guests will be excited about may well become quite a conversation piece during this episode. So Sean, I'm going to start with you. I'm going to put the trend and start with you this
Sean's Weekly Highlights
00:03:35
Speaker
time. How's your week been, mate? My week has been good. i thought i I thought about joking and going, no, I don't want to go first, but I'll do it. I'll go. um my week's been My week's been good. um In terms, like,
00:03:51
Speaker
Hm, I do want to do a condenser. I'm gonna save some stuff for for next week, and I went through and trimmed I trimmed some of it down. um i've been My week has been really kind of exciting. Madison got me ah a coffee advent calendar. um i just we like and She got a tea one, so we've been like starting it early, so we're not just like ah rip-roaring through December every day, just drinking like a ton of coffee. I've been loving it. It's been a good old time.
00:04:17
Speaker
Nice. So that's kind of how my week has been going. Am I rolling straight in and my quick news bits too? Is that we're condensing it in there too? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Perfect. We've got- Perfect. I want to discuss. So let's cover this at the same time. Cool. I have two things then. One of them is, as everybody knows, Skeleton Crew got bumped up a day, the release date for that. That's not the news. The news thing that I was interested in that I kind of got blindsided by, just happened to notice because I was shameless shameless plug looking at my my stupid Star Wars blue sky bot. And I noticed that StarWars.com posted that Fandango here in the in the city in the States was doing a free screening and and like select theaters
00:05:07
Speaker
for the first two episodes. Like it's not early, it's like at the release time. And I noticed that there was one in Sacramento, which is a couple hours, a couple hours away from me. It's not an easy drive, it sucks. It's a mobile drive. um So I was like, oh cool, I'll just sign up and see what happens. um It is weird, I did get the RSVP email, so but what's weird about it is Like I'm not sure if I'm going to go yet because they're like, oh, it's, you know, they kept emphasizing it's first come first serve. um You're not guaranteed a spot. um This is not a ticket yet. Like, so, but I'm like.
00:05:49
Speaker
Okay, like is it just the email that they're like sending like in response to me clicking the button? But yes, I would like to go like is that just the email they're like we're gonna email you again and when it gets closer to time It's like alright. Are you saying that this email is not a confirmation and not a ticket? But I will get one later maybe or are you saying no there will be no tickets?
00:06:10
Speaker
It's just gonna be a show up that day, wait outside, and we will let in X number of people. And you may get in or may not, because those to me are two totally different things, especially if it's too- So, potentially, essentially you could drive quite far. Yes. and it's Only to be turned away at the door. that did you are You are saying a much shorter version of what I am getting at. It's like, it's a two and a half to a three hour drive. I'm like, if I get a ticket, I might go.
00:06:39
Speaker
Yeah, if they if they are saying there is no ticket, but if you wait outside Which you know Star Wars fans that could be you show up an hour early you could get in or you show up 16 hours early You may not get in I won't I will not go so TBD I'll find out I think Sunday night or Monday during the day. um so yeah i did But I did sign up for that. I don't know yet. I don't know if I'm going to get in. I don't know if I'm going to go, but I signed up for it. We'll see. We'll see what happens because I know they're doing giveaways and other stuff. I don't know. It's very vague. I don't know what's happening. um It's weird. Well, I love free stuff, but I'm not sure if I'd be happy to. I'll be OK driving two and a half hours for free stuff. um
00:07:26
Speaker
Well, let's let's hope you get some some sort of confirmation that makes it um a little bit clearer. there's also There's also some good restaurants in Sacramento that I like to go to and some other... okay There's Ikea there too, so I think... like We usually bundle it up, so like if I'm going there, there's like, all right, we we look at our Ikea wish list and stuff like, all right, go pick this up and this up and like...
00:07:48
Speaker
For making the trip to town. We're gonna do a couple things. So yeah, that's so there's that that whole thing ah the other thing was ah More Disney related.
Disney World Changes and Speculation
00:07:58
Speaker
So maybe uh, you know, maybe Catherine might be interested in this um ah You know I'm a huge Muppet fan. Everybody knows that yeah um that. The news broke that in Florida the Muppet Vision 3D theater is closing in Florida to make way for
00:08:19
Speaker
ah Monsters Inc. A Monsters Inc. roller coaster. That looks pretty cool. It is pretty neat. And if if people don't follow me closely on Blue Sky, they're probably assuming, ah be sean's pissed that be sean's mad sha oh, Oh, Shawn's upset that Muppet Vision's closing. But you'd be surprised that I'm not i'm not mad.
00:08:36
Speaker
um ah and a lot of There's a lot of people upset online. And I think i think if we take a step, mike my only comment is, I think if we take a step back and like read, there's so much of this online right now where people are just getting upset. And Andy, you and I have talked about this a million and a half times. of like ah We just read the headline and we get mad and we go and comment. But like if you actually read the comp like read the article deeper,
00:09:02
Speaker
like Yeah, Muppet Vision 3 as a classic ah disney Disney World classic is one of the last few things that Jim Henson worked on before he passed. But like if you read the the the press release from Disney, it's like they're working on preserving it and making it available for fans to watch going forward. So they're not just going to like shelve it. Muppets are moving.
00:09:26
Speaker
over to Rockin' Roller Coaster to replace Aerosmith. And so they're going to inhabit that roller coaster now, and and part of that re-theme, which is fantastic. I think that's a much-needed transition. And far more timeless, you know, kind of markets in there, rather than Aerosmith.
00:09:44
Speaker
Oh, yeah. A million percent. I love it. and it this is the i can understand I can understand your thinking, but I only have one. Oh, I'm not saying objection because I i don't im i mean i love the Muppets because I love the Muppets as well. it's It's a massive part of my ah growing up in the 70s for me. um But is is Monsters, Inc. current? Is it current? It seems a weird choice.
00:10:09
Speaker
I think it's its it is it's not so much, there's a certain age range for ah I think English speaking um countries. ok like there's certainly There's certain age ranges, especially for like Gen Z, Gen Alpha, things like that that. There is a kids that grew up with Monsters University Like this is it is weirdly big with them. It is all right it doesn't it doesn't make sense. But for non-English speaking countries, it was also very, very big. ah oh wow okay all all i for All that stuff. And so it has ah it has an interesting pull, especially for an ah international park.
00:10:47
Speaker
like there's all sorts of comments I can make about like the the fact that they keep putting the same brides and stuff and different things like that but I think if we but the larger point is is like it is sad that they're getting rid of my revision 3d but like ah continued investment in the parks and like the continued expansion to things that like yeah people don't go people can be mad all they want to like oh they're shutting it down but yeah I don't see people he's spending money and go into it if like when you go to the park do you go to Muppet Vision 3D and watch it nine times no people don't like it's not a big deal like but like it's better to have a roller coaster there and something more interesting and especially to get rid of Aerosmith especially given
00:11:25
Speaker
The stuff that came out years ago, and like Muppets are ah probably a better fit for a Disney park than Aerosmith, like considering like the fit there. i Granted, Madison and I would have loved to see like a goofy movie power line concert take over that ride, but Muppets are a good second place in my pick. But ah um but yeah, that wasn't mine. That's my news. I love it.
00:11:50
Speaker
sure I'm staying super positive about it, but and I hope and and our friend Dave Strutt had a huge a fantastic comment on there as well About how you know the Muppets ah I'm gonna butcher his comment, but he had some really thought and insight thoughtful insights about how you know the Muppets aren't big for the kids these days like they didn't keep up with the IP and stuff like that and it's really important to our generation, but They didn't they didn't keep up with it. And so it could be important to us all day long, but It's just it's just what it is. So I think the preservation of of not only the film but all the animatronics and everything in this in the 3d theater is what's Important because it was here the last thing that Jim Henson worked on But there's there's space in that Park like there's like
00:12:42
Speaker
Was it Star Wars, Launch Bay or something? There's yeah there's other there's space in that park, but the actual Monsters Inc roller coaster, the doors, it's an amazing concept and a concept that's been kicking around for what, 20 years or something? Yeah, it's been around for a while, yeah.
00:13:01
Speaker
yeah so
00:13:05
Speaker
As soon as they announced that this coaster was going to get made, a lot of people were like, ah what does this mean for Muppets 3D? So people have had time to think about it, but Disney have made the commitment that they'll preserve the working some way.
00:13:24
Speaker
yeah it Yeah, the thing that's nice about it is that it was on the original release and not after the fact, not after the outrage. The fact that they're like, we are working to make sure that this stuff is available for people goes a long way from me and not like after a petition dot.org thing. So that yeah that makes me very happy. And that's that's my two cents on it. So yeah.
00:13:45
Speaker
All right, guys, so I'll be I'll be quick. A couple of a couple of things that I i either got wrong or admitted last week when we talked about the news last week, we forgot to talk. We forgot to mention not that meat it's been covered by pretty much everyone who are better podcasters than we are in the last week or so. But um Vision Series three or season three has been announced, which I'm super stoked about because it seems to be there revisiting
00:14:18
Speaker
Visions. Okay, fine. Sorry man, it's it's late my time, don't forget. Yeah, so Visions Season 3 coming out, it's great. Interestingly, interestingly, and I'll talk about this with you when we put the next record in greater detail, interestingly, one of the um one of the studios um which I believe is called Trigger, um that is is is coming back for Season 3, is also a um ah creator of a series that I finished recently, which is Cyberpunk Edge Runners. Anyway, that's a buy the buy. So yeah, Vision of Season 3, God of Ignorance, that's coming out, very excited about that.
00:15:01
Speaker
the The Dreamworks animation that i could not remember last week was of course not Casablanca, it's Madagascar. Hell, either of us have not could not remember which one we were talking about. Madagascar, that that yeah which which was a a series of movies that I didn't perhaps warm to as I did How to Train Your Dragon and indeed Wild Robot. um Outside of that, being a bizarre week, um I said to you last week, I'm going through some tests at the moment with with some medical stuff, there's some stuff going on that
00:15:41
Speaker
they're trying to work out what's going on. um I'll let you know. I'll let everyone know what's what's going on as and when they know what's going on. So I've been gone through another work ah the week of tests and stuff ah to find out what's happening to my ailing body. um And then lastly, and most excitingly, um I downloaded the Outlaws wildcard DLC, albeit um I had a few problems at the first instance in that it wouldn't download. No, not that it wouldn't download. It did download. and It acknowledged a proportion or a part of the DLC, which was the um the cosmetics, you know the the the the outfits and the the the skins for the ships and everything, which was which was great, but the actual gameplay itself was not working at all.
00:16:29
Speaker
So I have to do some um jiggery-pokery. I must say that Ubisoft support was rubbish. um i Anyway, I ended up doing a little bit of jiggery-pokery on some of my save files. I moved them around a little bit, actually, and I moved them from cloud to to physical, to from physical back to cloud.
00:16:50
Speaker
um De-installed the whole game, re-installed it and finally it got got got working again, which was great. But we'll talk about the experience of that DLC and how I feel about it ah when we next talk. So that was my week. Catherine, Nain, our very, very special guest. What have you been up to in the last week or so? And what are you excited about?
TV Show Discussions: Silo and Andor Speculations
00:17:16
Speaker
Well,
00:17:18
Speaker
of those who don't know, Silo season three, season three, season two has started. Episode three just dropped early for some reason, probably Thanksgiving reasons. Yeah. Yeah. um Yeah. as i'm sorry would say Yeah. Everything gets rearranged around Thanksgiving. Why not a bus? Why not a bus?
00:17:42
Speaker
russian for
00:17:45
Speaker
and yeah so the the skeleton crew change of times is throwing me. Hang on a second Catherine, what are you making of um season two of Silite so far?
00:18:02
Speaker
Oh, it's good. like ah I love the slow burn of it all. yeah And I think the first two episodes are great, but I think you can sort of tell i they kind of designed those to be released at once, the first two episodes.
00:18:23
Speaker
um But I think it's great. I think it's well worth a watch. I think people should give it a try. Apple tends to make pretty good stuff, but not promote it in any way.
00:18:40
Speaker
nine No. No. We've got Severance season two around the corner as well. I mean, they're just just killing it. They're just absolutely killing it. ah think They're really good at advertising it on their own homepage, like on their own little thing. It's like, great. Thanks for advertising it on your own platform when I'm here. That'd be great if you didn't did it somewhere else. Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:02
Speaker
Yeah, Silo yes, it's another one of their single word, you know, title shows that start with S. um But yeah, it's been great. So surprisingly,
00:19:18
Speaker
not that long ago, we got that sort of upcoming in in Disney that was came out for the D23 that was in Brazil. And we got some new official clippets of Andor, which is amazing, like little, little snippets and a date.
00:19:40
Speaker
Sorry, my cat has just decided to come in um and he's all wet. It's only acceptable if we if we get to see him. that's the that stay He stays at a camera range. um It's camera shy. Yeah. that's That's fair. That's fair. Yeah. ah But yeah, so we got a date 22nd of April, which is the American date. So 23rd of April, my time or Japan time. So
00:20:13
Speaker
Now the debate is on whether they will bring that release date forward to coincide it for Japan so I can lose my mind in front of thousands of other people as the first episode of Endor comes out.
00:20:30
Speaker
ah I was going to ask a question. I don't know whether we I save that question until we talk about... Ask it. No, I'll ask it now. Ask it now. do you think Do you think that they'll... Just shut up. Andy, this is the voice of your conscience speaking. um Do you think that um do you think that ah thou they'll launch a week earlier?
00:20:59
Speaker
to coincide with Tokyo or do you think there'll be an exclusive preview at toque in Tokyo and the rest of the world will have to wait a week?
00:21:11
Speaker
I think it'll um come out early, ah like what they did with Kenobi, that they brought forward the premiere to have it there during celebration. We got it two hours earlier at at Celebration Anaheim.
00:21:34
Speaker
um So yeah, we we watched it there and then we went back to the Airbnb and watched it again. um
00:21:45
Speaker
But yeah, they they they did that. They announced that about a week before the um the it actually happening, or even closer to, because I know the Star Wars underworld people, they'd organized a get together on that night, um like a gathering at an IHOP.
00:22:12
Speaker
Oh, with invitations and everything. Oh, wow. They were a little, ah, OK. But you know they only they had to wait two hours to see it. So it wasn't like it such a a big deal. But um yeah, i so I can't think of why they wouldn't bring it forward to have it. um it ah Is it a dual episode where first ah initial release or is it just one?
00:22:39
Speaker
I don't know. They haven't given that much in the way of details. It wouldn't surprise me if it was at least a dual episode release. That seems to be the Disney
00:22:57
Speaker
modus operandi and I think it's not a bad thing. um yeah Originally with Andor it was going to be a twowe but sorry a two episode release and then they um put the schedule back.
00:23:12
Speaker
like ah a week or a couple of weeks, which at the time we were like, well why have they done that? And it was so that they could release three episodes at once. And all that made a lot of sense to hook people into that first arc. I don't know whether they will have to do that as much this time around because I think people are far more prepared to go,
00:23:39
Speaker
These are three episodes are arcs. You know, I'm not going to judge the show by the first episode. You know, we're going to wait till at least the first arc is released. But who knows? And or episodes do tend to be on the longer side. So yeah between that 40 to 50 minute up to 60 minute um type of length.
00:24:06
Speaker
But i I don't know. Of course, it that the three episode arc is even more it's going to be even more prominent this time round. So as opposed to just it's not only an arc, it's also a year yeah in the timeline as well. So um it would it would be, I guess it's doable, but it'd be weird to launch with two back-to-back episodes and then have a week with the conclusion of that year, you know, quotes, you know. I think they'll only launch with one. I think they'll only launch with one a week. And I personally, since Celebration ends on the 20th and the first episode is supposed to launch the 22nd, I don't think that, like, i'm I'm torn at the moment. I'm sure Lucasfilm was currently, there's a lot of discussions currently going on.
00:24:57
Speaker
Like, yeah they they would not give it to us on the 20th. Like, they're not gonna do a screening on the last day of celebration. It's not gonna happen. So it would be 18th or 19th. And if they do it the 18th or 19th, they're not gonna give it to just, this is my opinion, they're not gonna give it to just us three days early. no There's no way.
00:25:18
Speaker
ah that where Yeah. Do a worldwide, you know, at most they might do something similar to Kenobi where they drop it two hours later or something. Or, you know, once our screenings finished, that was kind of basically the timing, wasn't it? Yeah. We came in with Kenobi. We had like a seven o'clock screening and it was releasing at nine o'clock, you know, for everyone. So I think that was. And heck, we're not even, we're not even talking about what language are they going to screen it in?
00:25:50
Speaker
Like are they gonna have more like how do you even do that? Do you have two rooms? Do you just say okay English is pretty prevalent and Japanese and we do it in two places or do we just say no you're getting it in Japanese or do they can they say just we're doing it in English like I don't this I don't want to be in that room in that discussion i I don't know. I would love it. That'd be fan fantastic. Can you imagine if we went there, we're like, we get it three days early, and they're like, it's in Japanese. And it's like, I love it. I'd be like, this is awesome. I was going to say, I'd love that. I would love that. I would absolutely love that. that would um As long as subtitles are on. And really cement the Japanese experience. As long as subtitles are on, because otherwise I'm like, I don't know what's going on. Like, I get it. I could i could piece it together, but please at least like please at least let there be subtitles. Yeah.
00:26:42
Speaker
Yeah. Unless they roll it twice, back to back. i could I do that. That's fine. Take it. Catherine will be fine with that. Oh, by the way, folks, i i'm I'm assuming everyone that's listening, wolf all all three of you, um i'm ah I'm assuming you you all know, if you listen to us, you definitely listen to Catherine.
00:27:00
Speaker
um Both on her own podcasts, um that geek pop, but also also and she's a they the the the the right-hand person to Josh Chapman on Star Wars spell out as well. um and um'm so And as such, I'm assuming you're already listening to her, you already know Katherine really well, and you know that she is, I think in the Guinness Book Records actually, as being the number one fan.
00:27:26
Speaker
for Andor, anything Cassian Andor related, um yeah and and is worldwide renown renowned renown um as as officially managing the countdown to um the Andor season two.
00:27:47
Speaker
So I just want to make sure that, you know, I'm trying to give context as to why we're spending so much time on Andor because it's Catherine and Catherine is Andor. And I have to say, aspirin I've seen other people try. I've seen other people trying to like step into that role and trying to like emit some imitators. They're not as good. It's not as good. It's not as consistent. The quality is not there and think with the countdown. It's not as good. No. Yeah. um Yeah. I've got Adam Lance Garcia.
00:28:15
Speaker
would do countdowns for everything, but he stopped doing that. um Apart from when things were announced, but I have the official blessing from him. He's so happy for me to continue because he knows what it means to me.
00:28:36
Speaker
that yes so Yeah, so a lot of people have heard the backstory that I started counting down to Andor or something they to look forward to during the midst of one of Melbourne's very long lockdowns. I'm sure we're all aware of um the lockdowns that Melbourne did.
00:29:00
Speaker
And, yep, so, you know, living alone, only being able to, you know, you can't really travel more than five kilometres. it It's very limiting. So, you know, like, like looking forward to Andor was that thing to get through the next day. You know, having gotten through the day, you can mark, well, gotten through the day that's one day closer to Andor.
00:29:23
Speaker
um So, yeah, it he's been a constant. ah in twenty Was it 2019 when they announced the that they'd been making Andor? I still remember you getting in my car at work going, oh, that's a lot of notifications.
00:29:43
Speaker
<unk> Go back to my, go into my office, open the phone up and going, oh my God, yeah everyone tagging you with what had happened. ah
00:29:55
Speaker
But yeah, so every night before I go to bed, I memorialise that we're one day closer to Andor. It used to be just on Twitter, but now it's Twitter, Blue Sky and Threads. Yeah. And Twitter.
00:30:14
Speaker
I'm really only still on Twitter to maintain the streak of saying that, you know, every night. You are forgiven. You are forgiven. it's Everyone's going to understand. If anyone gets a part, it's going to be you, Catherine.
00:30:28
Speaker
Yeah, because consistency and that strike. That's where the history is of doing it all the time. Don't break in now. Whatever you do, don't break in now. Actually, I don't know if many people know this. You got called out during last... So I've only ever been to one celebration and I know I'm kind of...
00:30:50
Speaker
I'm kind of leapfrogging what we are talking about, but I've only ever been to one celebration, and I met you guys in London um last year. What year are we in? We're into, yeah, last year, last April. um And um obviously, I already knew you via the socials before then, but you even got called out in one of the panels, didn't you? No. what I thought you got called out in one of the panels.
00:31:19
Speaker
There's somebody in the audience that is that there is is counting down, has been counting down to, um all I might dream of that. I remember something. I don't know if it was a celebration, but I remember you i remember there was something...
00:31:33
Speaker
I don't know if it was a, was it a tweet or something where you got mentioned, ah maybe it was like a retweet or something. I know, I know, I remember Andy, what you were talking about, like the countdown and or stuff. Yeah. i don't I don't know whether it had anything to do with Jamie Benning over at Filming Mentories, whether he said something or commented on something and it may well be on the socials. You could be right, but I know it was around the time of me first meeting you. Yeah. Yeah. um Bigs of 2023 are a bit should of a blur. um Heck, man, they're in 2025 in Australia. Like, i what what is time? Time's a flat circle. Yeah. Yeah. So here we are. Here we are. We are a matter of months, a matter of five months away from Andor season two.
00:32:24
Speaker
um Catherine? Yeah. Tell us what you've seen in the, which we've all seen, but tell us what you've seen in the trailers um the ah magazine and which is on your way in the posts on Monday morning. um ah Tell us what is getting you really excited about Andor and where do you think the story is going to take us? Because the reason why I'm asking is that
00:32:59
Speaker
I'd love to get your take on where you think they'll focus because in the five years that they have remaining, there's a lot to squeeze in. There's a lot to squeeze in. It's a lot squeezing. And honestly, I i wish that we had that original plan of five seasons here one year, yeah a season like, yeah, that, that would be my,
00:33:28
Speaker
you know, magic wand. I don't think it's a, yeah, I don't think it's a amount of dumb tracks full of money, but I'm sure it wouldn't, you know, I'm sure it would help. Um, but yeah, we, well, especially, especially as we don't have much of a slate now after Randall, do we? Not really. Anyway, sorry. I interrupted you. Yeah. Um, so.
00:33:58
Speaker
yeah we everyone We've seen what who we presume to be K2SO in the official trailers. um So we want to see him and in meeting and reprogramming him and becoming friends. We've seen Krennic officially in the Empire magazine.
00:34:19
Speaker
um pictures So, it'd be great to start to get that behind the scenes shenanigans of the security bureau bureau and um and all of that you know rumblings carry between lots the the intelligence of the rebellion and then what's going on with the empire there.
00:34:45
Speaker
that building of off the Death Star or at least that building of a project, some whispers of a project coming out. I'd love to see a friendship or at least some kind of relationship forming between Cassian and his informer Tevic, who, of course, we see in the opening scenes of Rogue One on the Ring of Catherine. I'd love to see those two interacting
00:35:22
Speaker
you know, a bit through the course of here guys these episodes, like over the the years, you need to see them interacting to be his long-time informant. Let me ask you the question. Do you think that um we'll see Saul Guerrero? Do you think we'll see him again? Yeah. Well, then I think there's a really good chance you'll get your wish because isn't the guy, Saul's messenger,
00:35:52
Speaker
he's He's part of, yeah, Saul's crew or extended um yeah extended crew. So they there is a possibility of not only there with Saul, but I would hope to see him interacting with Cassie and just to make us cry even more, and make it hit even harder, that scene on yeah the ring of Catherine.
00:36:18
Speaker
um x and or is gonna make us hurt. It's gonna make us hurt, like, and I can't wait for it. um Look, those are sort of...
00:36:32
Speaker
the things I think we'll see, there's a chance of seeing see was the massacre of the Gormans that Mon Mothma talks about in that episode of Rebels, like that being the yeah basically the final straw and why she leaves the Senate, because ah we've already had a mention of Gormans in season one.
00:36:54
Speaker
um And I apologize if I'm saying that wrong. um And Tony Gilroy is well aware of that because he was asked the question prior to season one and he was like, yeah, I know about them. He was able to reel off all these backs. So it's like, yeah, you know, don't come at Gilroy. He he knows the stuff he needs to know.
00:37:15
Speaker
yeah like So I think we'll really see those building of the rebellion. So we might we may see a glimpse of um Blue Leader, ah ah it General Merrick. Merrick with that delicious tash. oh Dashing, absolutely dashing. What a dude, what a dude.
00:37:44
Speaker
and And we'll see a lot of the other leaders of the rebellion. I'm i'm sure, because we'll end up on Yavin Base, that we will see g glimpses or at least allusions to them that we see in A New Hope and Rogue One. And or season one, you it was very, you quote unquote, reference light.
00:38:11
Speaker
um we We'll get, I think, a few more of those sort of direct links into Star Wars movies, but I have can complete faith that it it's all for story reasons and it all makes sense. It's not for the Leo gift pointing of it all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, seeing Nelchi in season one was a complete surprise.
00:38:39
Speaker
and But it hit home and seeing him going off. But it was done tastefully. Yeah, it was done tastefully. And it was that, oh, they've got a deep friendship and trust that goes back a long way. This is why Melchi would follow Cassian.
00:38:58
Speaker
yeah and god gay You're watching Rogue One now, it hurts, it hurts. say yeah um yeah here Hearing you talk about some of this some of these kind of these beats, ah kind of i I can't help but...
00:39:18
Speaker
have this kind of this kind of idea in my head pop up. It's kind of this marvel book item of an open question for anybody, kind of discussing the the original plan of taking five seasons, which we would all we would all love. like And this question originally started as almost like ah like a worry that I had in my head while you were talking. And now it's kind of formed into like an, oh, I wonder if this was a change that happens.
00:39:39
Speaker
And I wonder whose decision it was. So the question I'm posing is, like it was originally five and then it got bumped down to two. And I think we, correct me if I'm wrong, I think we all assumed it's, oh, it's budgetary. Oh, it's yada, yada, ya yada, yada, yada. But my question is, i I'll lead the question as a for what i'm its a state what I'm thinking.
00:39:59
Speaker
I wonder, was that more of a Tony Gilroy decision? Because he wish he doesn't want to get stuck in the world of four additional seasons of trying to take his his style of storytelling and his writing and getting stuck in the Dave Filoni style of writing where it's like, I gotta fit in all this store this Star Wars kind of expectations and yada, yada, yada.
00:40:25
Speaker
for four more seasons. I die more of him ah don't know what, you know, obviously you've done a mind reader, yeah and I'm sure there's many factors that go into it, but it was an Anaheim celebration when Diego and Tony talked about it being only two seasons, and the both of them talked about how And filming the one season was fantastic, but it was gruelling. And any it it was hard. It was hard work. You know, it took a long time. Ben Dio has said, you know, he's away from family for a long time. But he's is also saying, you know, like,
00:41:08
Speaker
That would be like realistically 10 years of his life and he's not looking like when he was like 10 years ago, like he's, I think he sort of, so I think there's a bit of when they took on the five seasons, they didn't quite know how, you know, how difficult it would be. ba So I'm hoping there was like a mutually reached decision between them and Disney of, okay, the Alex make two. um I'm sure that we've now Disney reevaluating
00:41:51
Speaker
or like yeah how much they're putting into um producing these new plus shows. I'm sure they've now go, oh, yeah I'm glad we haven't committed for the five seasons because that's a lot of money.
00:42:03
Speaker
um so Yeah, but I am bummed, but it's been said online, but it's that it'd be great to then get a story from Giroi or Giroi-esque about what's happening with the rebellion or these people of the rebellion between a new hope and empire.
00:42:30
Speaker
oh yeah mo yeah he he's just he's brought such a breath of fresh air and he's not like we like you know he's not quote unquote fan of star wars but he is like you know he's star wars but he's not you know so handcuffed to everything in it he likes that what star wars can say and he's using it to say things um so i think he's no he wants he liked He likes stuff he wants the freedom, he likes the universe, but he wants the freedom to tell a story, not be the connective tissue of like, he doesn't want to write saw a saga film. He doesn't want to be like, I'm going to play with play characters in a sandbox kind of thing.
00:43:15
Speaker
so I think he's done a lot of different genres, I think, like just haven't got his filmography in front of me. But I think he's probably used the different genres to say different things. He's used them for different things. But I think in and or Because it's set in a galaxy far, far away, he's being able to say quite a lot, but it's couched in, oh yeah, this is the Empire.
00:43:47
Speaker
yeah This is an empire doing this. And and so he's being able to couch it in that way, which is, of course, what the best science fiction has always done, has has put that mirror up to society, but done it in a ah different setting you know you you think of that um you know Star Trek episode original series Star Trek episode it sort of seems a bit naff now of those the people's on the planet who's white on one side black on the other the other ones yeah the other way round, you know, why can't they get along? It's like, oh, there's your metaphor right there. Can you see it, people? yeah so Yes. Star Wars and Star Trek have always been woke people. For sure. For sure. i you're telling You're telling me it's political? i You what? What? Yeah, sorry.
00:44:52
Speaker
ah since I have a um statement, actually, not a question. I i just wanted to say I 100% agree with you. um I think that um he has built so many, he has introduced so many rich, believable and genuine characters in the first season the of Andor, that to leave them at the end of Cassian's journey,
00:45:22
Speaker
and not establish what happened next, I think would be a crying shame. Again, he doesn't have to be shoehorned into the Filoni type of, you know, we need a series, we need it, we need it, we need it, we need it over a three story arc, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But if we could see what's happened with our our friends, or Cassian's friends. um One question I do have for you though, is that, um do you think that, this is the one thing, thought, will they go there? I asked myself the question, will they go there or won't they go there? And that is, when the former massacre happens and obviously they've covered Mon Mothma leaving the Senate and denouncing the Emperor. They've done that already in rebels. Do you think they'd be afraid to redo that? I personally don't think they would be, but do you think they'll even bother?
00:46:29
Speaker
I ah don't think they'd redo yeah her being picked up by the rebels. right They might cover her estate from Coruscant and from the Senate because yeah that might bring her in contact with yeah our man on the same Cassian, Fulcrum.
00:46:52
Speaker
um So, you know, it might do it that way that they might cover it from a different angle. ah Tony Gilroy does not strike me as a man who's afraid. No. He is quite willing to do things. But it's interesting the way that if they've changed sort of backstories, as it were, like the the story of Cassian's birth, he was meant to be from um born in a certain place, that the name escapes me out, but they've changed it to Kanari, but that story that's in the um you visual guide or whatever, that's his backstory, that's his cover story.
00:47:45
Speaker
So they've respected that um yeah the established canon as it were, but deepened it. They've respected it, but even if they've changed it, it's a really interesting thing they've done. And you think there's deep Easter eggs in there. There's deep cuts.
00:48:07
Speaker
sometimes in the dialogue, sometimes just in the background, but they've been really selective on it, of it. They haven't lingered on things. You know, like the Cantwell sheep that the Empire has, that was a you deep cut, you know, prototype that they'd had during A New Hope.
00:48:25
Speaker
um And all the little objects in Luther's shots, like this, some absolute deep cuts in there, and even some of the dialogue in the scenes in the ISB, um in the boardroom as it were, they're referencing lots of different little planets and things. um So Gilroy has and his team have used the team like Pablo and and others who know all these canon, they've used them really well.
00:49:00
Speaker
and they've yeah and I think I've probably drifted off point. No, you say it perfectly. And I also think that i mean the main thing that you the main thing you put over was that um was that Gil was not afraid to take risks. But I also think, and in addition to that, I also think that he's not someone to um throw in a cameo for the sake of the sake of throwing in a cameo. And I guess that if you went too far with replacing or augmenting or redoing they um the Mothma thing, it would it would you'd have to then include the include the um the the that the cast the of the Sorry, the crew of the guys to your point, which I hope i you know avoid at all costs. It's getting way too congested. Oh, i just so I just hope they don't, because I i i would love to see Tony Gilroy prove the point that you can do this stuff that is connected,
The Success of Andor
00:49:59
Speaker
and you don't have to show how or why it's connected.
00:50:02
Speaker
yeah like Like Madison and I happened to be watching a video yesterday that was kind of talking about some of this stuff and like some of the, I won't go into all the whys, who's and what's and like some of the issues with like people's grudge and some of the Filoni stuff, but like um why Andor is so successful because like anybody can sit down and watch it and get it. You don't have to, you don't feel like you have to be part of like a special club of like, oh, you didn't watch all 17 seasons of the animated show and you don't get it. Well, too bad. Like,
00:50:32
Speaker
like I want it to continue to stay that way. like I want Andor to take a stand and be like, you didn't have to watch no Rebels. You didn't have to watch this. You don't have to, like don't give people the satisfaction of being like, oh that's that one scene. It's like, let it stand on its own. like you don't have like It can be connected if it doesn't have to like recreate those scenes. It can be powerful and impactful.
00:50:56
Speaker
Not because I don't want it or not because I'm vengeful or spiteful, but like it's just such a powerful show. Yeah, it doesn't need like I'll i'll call it what it is. I know it doesn't need the spoon feeding as much as I love i'll i love it I'll watch it you but it's like it doesn't need it. It doesn't need it. We all know it but It's such a good show and I'm so glad it was um recognized in in the end use, you know as being a yeah best drama and when I've obviously I tell people to watch Andor all the time like quite a lot and they're like oh you know I don't really watch Star Wars I'm like well you know there's an empire don't you and they're like yeah I'm like yeah that's all you need to know
00:51:44
Speaker
That's really basically all you need to know to enjoy Andor. Because, yes, melt cheesing it, but you don't need necessarily need to know that he shows up in Rogue One.
00:51:59
Speaker
yeah know and say um for people who maybe haven't yes the people haven't seen Rogue One but have watched Andor and then decide to watch Rogue One. za That's a delightful little little thing for them. But the way they filmed it, it wasn't that lingering, oh look at this cameo everyone. He was just one of the um see around the table that Cassian met and it wasn't filmed in a special way. He was just filmed like anyone else on there. So it was, for us, it was special. I mean, obviously that episode, we also got Andy Serkis, like that was out of the blue Andy Serkis thing in the show. Like you sort of hear the voice, you go, oh, okay.
00:52:47
Speaker
Haggle and then he walks in you're like, oh my god, here he is. in his unmocapped self, commanding the scene. And that was yeah delightful. Like, that was wonderful. do you think he's God, that prison arc is still... Yeah. Do you think he's back in season two? Or do you think that's too much? That's two on the nose or two... No, that's two. Because me, I think it's that wouldn't be very Gilroy-esque. No. Okay. Okay. i
00:53:22
Speaker
i think Yeah, we wouldn't go back to finding that Cassian will keep moving forward. um Obviously, we who love Kino Lloyd want to know, did he make it off? Or was he still on there when the Empire came? like What happened?
00:53:45
Speaker
that this is the thing that this is far more like real, you know, quote unquote, real life. We're just not going to know unknowns what what happens.
00:53:58
Speaker
um and For the story, it's not about him. He'll come back in some book or comic for the Star Wars fans. But like for the average viewer, like they don't they don't care. So Gilroy won't bring him back or or anything like that. In some ways, he's played his role. He's played his role. He's built another piece of Cassian to be that man who got on the ship to Scarif knowing, well, this could be it. And then at the end, sitting there on the beach,
00:54:37
Speaker
not knowing if the message has got out, but just hoping that done enough. He's one of the faces that flashes before him, before before he goes. Oh, God. Now, i'm I've got a visions of fan edits in my brain that people are going to do of intercoding.
00:54:59
Speaker
like a life flashing before your eyes and stuff. ah Of all the people like Martha. Oh, don't, don't, don't, don't. And all of that. Oh, oh God. Oh God. Now. Right. So. You broke me. You broke me. I was going to say, let's move on, Sean. I mean, it's, uh, look what you've done.
00:55:21
Speaker
um So, so our segue to talking about Tokyo, let's use Andal, we all pretty much agreed it's going to be big.
00:55:35
Speaker
and there was good she worked for pay pay I should for Yeah. questions for you. very Exactly the same question. I was free. Well, you can go for as long as you want, I promise you. But but but i we asked Josh three questions the last time but we when we where we started this gig. So um give us a little bit of an give us little bit of a summary as to your experience of past celebrations.
Catherine's Celebration Experiences
00:56:15
Speaker
where did it Where did it start for you? What happened? What was the general vibe? How did you approach it?
00:56:21
Speaker
All that kind of goodness is what made you a compulsive celebrationer today. Well, obviously my celebration story is similar to Josh's in that we sort of first heard about it through Steel, yeah um through Steel Wars, and became more of a possibility. And we got this little crew here in Melbourne together of people who knew each other. And it was like, well, you know now it's not not such a scary process um proposal. and
00:56:59
Speaker
we kind of knew some people over the internet. um
00:57:06
Speaker
Yeah, so it sort of became a thing of, let's go. Have you guys met by then, actually face to face? Yeah, ah so we're coming out to, like, we've been past an anniversary of, you know, at some, at the Comedy Festival, Steel was doing in four shows on on the Sunday. um And, you know, I've of course went to all four.
00:57:37
Speaker
um or you on the first week you sort of standing there in the line head down not talking to anyone second week or so you go okay yep so that you do the head. I recognize you. The acknowledgement. Yeah, I saw you last time. The acknowledgement. Yep. And by the fourth week, you're like, oh yeah, not quite talking, but you're sort of talking a little bit. And that fourth week, I think we had a teaser trailer for Force Awakens. Nice. So yeah, it was... That's when we sort of got to know each other and hanging out. And we got to know each other more and more and more over the years. And yeah, it's been amazing how a podcast like it was started with I Love Green Guide Letters and then moved into Steel Wars can bring you friends. And yeah.
00:58:43
Speaker
um So yeah, we've, it was like this, oh, did, did you want to go to celebration? And we're like, yeah, yeah. And it sort of became that, well, we could go to that Chicago one. And so we all sort of decided now, I can't remember what time the tickets actually came out. Like might've been like 3am our time or 5am or something.
00:59:12
Speaker
ah We were far more casual about it. We didn't know. We did not know because I think oh it's i just logged onto my laptop yeah here at home prior to work, you know maybe 6.30, got the five-day pass, no worries. It's all simple.
00:59:30
Speaker
um and then yet We then coordinated going, well, what do we do? You know, me being me, I'm like, right, where are we going to stay, Josh? What are we going to do? Like, are we going to get a hotel? Like, are we going to get Airbnb? What are we going to do, Josh? What are we going to do? Josh is like, it's OK. It's OK. I've got this. So, yeah, we ended up booking an Airbnb that was kerfuffles and, you know, Airbnb being Airbnb.
01:00:02
Speaker
um But yeah, then getting to meet a lot of our friends in real life was magical yeah because it's that you don't know what people are going to be like. um but oh This is even the oddest thing. like I had met Turbo in real life because I'd flown up to Sydney for Steel's Rogue One podcast yeah because he'd done the live one in Melbourne and then he'd done yeah after the film and then he went up to Sydney and did another one there. I of course flew up to Sydney to do that because even before I knew i Rogue One was my movie and it's my movie yeah and um yeah I think I met Turbo in real life then. but
01:00:54
Speaker
Yeah, Josh hadn't met Turbo. Like they communicated and so we ended up all sharing at Airbnb and Turbo is one of my best mates. Yeah, then meeting all the friends internet friends in real life. It's amazing. And then we were at the bar in Chicago, the the haunted hotel.
01:01:23
Speaker
and you're meeting Brittany in real life. I think we just sort of stared and laughed at each other for a while. um And Steele described it as the internet come to life. That all these people, you know, like meeting King Tom, like he'd just introduced himself as Tom and and then after a little while, I i clicked to away. Oh, King Tom! The man, the myth, the legend.
01:01:53
Speaker
Yes. So, we were in. I think we were hooked. We all bought far too many Black Series because you do that the first celebration you go to. You buy far too much. Oh, you buy everything. Literally everything. You can get your hands on.
01:02:11
Speaker
Yeah, and I think you were saying on Spelt Out the other day, Andy, how expensive stuff is for us here. So it feels cheaper over there.
01:02:27
Speaker
And so yeah, we, but then, yeah, we were in, so they announced for 2020 and we're like, well, okay, I'd expect it the next year, but it is the anniversary of empire. Yes, we'll get our tickets. Yes, that time we did get up at two o'clock in the morning or something. Two of them may have just stayed up um and secured our tickets. And then.
01:02:56
Speaker
Well, we know it happened. um
01:03:00
Speaker
yes so and And then they you put it to 2022 and asking our naivete, we're like, 2022? That's so far away, why they put it off so far? But yeah, then.
01:03:18
Speaker
Borders were closed, and yeah, and and then when they brought it forward to May 22, we initially freaked out, like well, I did, um because the week before they'd done that, our then Prime Minister in the budget and in in parliament was talking about potentially our borders not opening again until mid-2022.
01:03:45
Speaker
So that was a pretty devastating point of time. Josh and I get the face. You guys have it had it hard, though, in particular. i mean we ah You know the story of our lockdown and the yeah shenanigans our own government got up to at the time. But um yeah, you guys you guys were were relatively rigid, weren't you, on the lockdown?
01:04:10
Speaker
yeah Yeah, like New Zealand even more so, I think. But yeah, we were pretty rigid at our state. our city in particular was very strict. As a consequence, obviously, over that period of time, out the impact of COVID was less than what it was in a lot of other countries. But obviously, we had the restrictions and we had yeah a lot of Yeah, lockdowns and things. um Now, you know there were people in other countries saying we were locked in our homes and yeah authoritarian states. It's like, no, no, wasn't it? That was quite, that was more upsetting at the time than the actual lockdown for me. Right. Was all these lies being said about us in other countries who didn't know.
01:05:09
Speaker
um
01:05:12
Speaker
but, you know, it was, yeah, it was, you know, it'd be rough that, yeah, you know, you had to, your five kilometer bubble, but, and then this was why we were so angry when Skomo said that with the vaccine rollout, oh, you know, it's not a race. And he like slow, slow modes the rollout. We're like, no, no. Yeah. get on with that get um Get on with it. It was like a big... That was one of the brouhahas that, thank God, got rid of him.
01:05:52
Speaker
um But yeah, so we as a nation got that first wave of vaccinations very pretty well quickly. um Sorry, you just sort of can't talk about that time without bringing it up. It was just such From what, let me, I wouldn't say jog your memory. i'm I'm going by what I've heard from people like Josh, people like Sean, people like our buddy Chris Hall and others that it said, that time happened. but had had it not been But had it not been for the friendships that you guys forged in Chicago, in Anaheim,
01:06:40
Speaker
that you were able to sustain during lockdown. um So even when there was no celebration, you were celebrating one way or another and supporting each other and keeping each other sane, quite frankly, for each other. And the fact that all came from a celebration, I would say your experience during COVID itself was actually attribute so attributed, could be attributed to, you know, the relationships you'd built originally. What was your... sorry
01:07:17
Speaker
Yeah, celebration is an appropriate word for the convention. It's a celebration of Star Wars, it's a celebration of friendship in a way. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah i mean not stop Star Wars is a is just the the met the the vehicle in which we're celebrating our friends. it's it's the reason like it's the thing we're talking about but really we're all there to see our friends because like ah we just happened to be talking to our neighbors the other day and we're like we happen to mention them we're going back to Japan and they're like oh what are you going for it's like oh we're going to the Star Wars convention that you're going back to ju Japan for Star Wars it's like no I'm really going to see like my friends like the Star Wars convention is
01:07:56
Speaker
It's cool. like that's That's awesome. But the reason that you pull the trigger and go and go is is the the community, the friendship, to yeah to get to hang out with... like like i've I've never been to something where I hang out with such a large group of people.
01:08:14
Speaker
like, besides a wedding, and I don't even like half of those people at weddings. That's just because I have to. But this is like, I like all these people. like i've never I've never experienced anything like that in my life, where it's like, you're just a big group like that. you And it's like, wow, this is crazy. Well, it didn't take me oh wouldn't take me long when I met you guys, and you you guys were so gracious and welcoming. It didn't take me long to not be upset that I didn't get into as many panels as I thought as i was hoping for.
01:08:40
Speaker
And it very, very quickly, very, very quickly, my mindset of what, sorry, my mindset and my expectations of well of what I wanted to do and what I wanted to experience at celebration, it changed fundamentally. I wanted to hang out with with you guys, you know, I wanted to hang out and it was almost like some of the panels in particular were almost inconsequential to the um to the um the experience of of of of being with white-minded folk that um put up with my bullshit. um So Catherine, Catherine, next question is, of the three, three you've been to now, yeah three you've been to now,
01:09:24
Speaker
Give me three standout moments, not necessarily a standout moment from each, but one of your three largest standout moments across the three celebrations you've been to, what have really, really, I'm gonna guess I know which one of them is, but but but what are the standout moments that have really made, really made the event for you?
01:09:48
Speaker
I'm meeting everyone at Chicago. Right. that
01:09:56
Speaker
That was amazing, like knocking on the door of Echo Base, not knowing, you know, like are these people as cool as what we think they are? Emily opening the door and giving us a big hug. Bam. You know, like meeting Brittany in the bar and us, honestly, there's a photo of us sort of just like holding hands in the air and just like staring at each other.
01:10:22
Speaker
um
01:10:27
Speaker
there There's, you know, within celebration itself, I mean, there's seen Diego Luna from me meters away. Like that was astonishing. It's also how everyone else was excited for me that that happened. It's contagious. Yeah. It's contagious.
01:10:51
Speaker
Yeah. um And everyone knew what it it meant. So for Anaheim, we'd been hanging out by the the Star Wars stage. we We saw the spoilers of who was coming up next um on the teleprompter. um But then that kept getting changed. um But we were meant to be going to Kenobi screening. But Josh and I were not staying, staying, staying.
01:11:21
Speaker
And then we went. We saw it. I lost my little mind. It still bookmarked on the smelt out.
01:11:33
Speaker
Twitter page, and I think it's still bookmarked on mine, of the video that Josh took of me losing my mind, um and then going into the Kenobi screening afterwards, and he started screaming at people going, I And them going, yes! You know, like just people Everyone knowing each one's fandom or what they really enjoy and being happy for other people, it's a really positive experience with that. like spining
01:12:11
Speaker
that time with so many people who get you and understand you is a unique experience. It's a singular experience. Do you remember in London when we queued for what felt like a God's age to get into the Andal Pal? And we were, Sean, I don't know if you, I think you were with us.
01:12:38
Speaker
You were with us. I remember i remember the little Cassie and Endor action figure. Yeah, you were either with us, but the point I'm trying to make is we we had we had been queuing an hour before they had even officially started the queues, because by hookup, Catherine was going to get into this panel. As it transpires, we we know we're right at the front. There must be maybe two or three more couples before it before us. yeah is This was the behind the scenes panel, that one.
01:13:08
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Was it? I'm i'm talking about, yeah the I'm talking about the one where Josh and a few of the other guys come in nonchalantly about just as the queues are about to start moving and they end up sitting right next to us. Yeah. um Behind the scenes. Yeah. Like they weren't there for behind the scenes. We were right up the front for behind the scenes um for ah the the Andor panel by itself, like queued up for quite a while, but obviously the VIPs sort of right were in the front. yeah We were behind and they gave, um you know, a selection of Sikhs also to the people who cosplayed as the Alkina Five prisoners. And they were given, you know, time to come up on stage because I think even, you know, Gilroy in his
01:14:07
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very DeLroyan self was he was chuffed by seeing these people dressed like that and because the um costume designers were there as well they were really chuffed like seeing people cosplaying is that um and yeah So, of course, at Celebration, there's the running of the Wilgroth Woods, but a new tradition started of the running of the Natakena Five, of one way out, one way out, one way out. But my point being was that during that ah that, whichever panel it was, because I must admit, I was more psyched on the um the atmosphere than probably what I was listening and watching to.
01:14:52
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But the point being is that you know within within 15-20 minutes pretty much everyone's now in the in the room and lo and behold Josh and Certainly you Sean a bunch of the other guys that like I said just literally haven't been queuing at all um For very long at all literally sat next to us. Anyway 10, 15 minutes into the into the panel, and all I can say is that I've never seen anyone so excited as I saw you, Catherine, and I think I've got a good feeling it might have been when we got the sneak peek of season two with him with the with the grease back hair, you know? um Anyway, point being is that um I, at that moment in time, I was very, very worried because I didn't know you very well,
01:15:39
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i I honestly was war was worried ah about your wellbeing i because your reaction was so was was was so, should we say severe? And I had to ask Josh, who luckily was you know we sitting next to us, I said, is is everything okay? Should I get some water or something? And he just took one look at me and went, no, mate, it's fine. No, she's absolutely fine. Give me five minutes. She'll be absolutely fine.
01:16:08
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But yeah, I didn't realise. I don't think I realised. Of course I knew you were into Andor. I'd been following you guys on the socials and I'd been listening to your podcast. But good God, I've never seen anything like it in my life. And fair play to you. The joy coming out of you um during that panel was a sight to behold. I don't think I ever see anything like that again.
01:16:30
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i say I say this with a complete love, but there was a minute where I was like, I thought that I was gonna need to get one of those like this brown paper like lunch bags that you breathe in. I was like, I think, are we okay? And it's like, oh no, she's she's great. It's like, okay, I just wanna make sure we're breathing, because I don't want her to miss anything, but she's good, all right, we're good. but Yeah, it was infectious, it was fantastic. I was like, oh my gosh, like i'm i'm having like she's having so much fun.
01:16:56
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that it's like it's like washing over everybody else in the crowd and we're all having more fun because she's having so much fun like it it was it was yeah it was crazy it was so much fun yeah like it's it's hard to describe without recording it and that's not what we do like what yeah josh does Josh does but we don't yes Yeah, so... Well, yeah josh Josh does in the, you know, that stage area, the Star Wars live stage area. He knows his responsibility to the internet. Yeah, absolutely. it's It's good. You know what he's like as well. Selfishly, he's also, he knows good content when he sees it as well. The concept of a professional. um Okay, next question. What are your plans for Tokyo? Now, I don't know anyone quite as organised as you.
01:17:51
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across the entire globe. I know that there are some things that you haven't locked down yet, but what are your aspirations for your visit to Tokyo, both inside and outside celebration? Because um I'm in awe of you, and I'm envious that you have the ability to make it a ah true trip to to Japan, um which like unfortunately I can't.
01:18:17
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but um Give us a little overview of of what Catherine Dean has planned. Well, it coincides with our term one break. So there's two weeks there. So my philosophy has has been, and it was the same with Chicago and with London, is that if it happens during one of these breaks, I should just be over there for the whole break, here make it ah a proper trip.
01:18:50
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yeah um
01:18:54
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So this time around, um so I'm going over there a couple of weeks, or a week and a half or so earlier, doing some days in Tokyo, then um Hiroshima, then Kyosho. Of course, going by the train, because I'm going to go by the train. No, there's no other way. You got to do it.
01:19:14
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It's the best way. i've i've already My travel agent has found i a guide for me for um some days because even though I go and do these things, I i do I do have anxieties and and doing things on your own is a challenge. for sure so but so I think already on the itinerary is a railway museum or two. I've i've found a few. um nice ye I don't know if I can fish in the um
01:19:53
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the train line that is a cat. So the stations are shaped like a cat. The trains are painted up as cats. That's pretty remote and that and it's it's kind of like out there. Yeah, yeah yeah so you'd have to like travel a bit out of I think Osaka and then yeah go to just this little red flag. Andy's just holding his head. That's the trinity, isn't it? That's the trinity.
01:20:17
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and or trains and cats that's that's yeah there there is nothing else and yeah there's nothing else your life is complete so we know my my perfect star wars movie is Cassie and Andor on a train rescuing cats yeah yeah kind and And maybe be and they need Tony Gilroy, you know, you you you'll make a special edition for me, you make the real one and then you make a Catherine special edition which has stuff like that and also Cassian and or Dirty Dancing like he does in Dirty Dancing 2 Havana Nights. Well doesn't he a does does't he attend a ball or something in Coruscant?
01:20:54
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Did we see that? I'm wheeling that into existence. OK. I'm sure he goes to some sort of bib and tuckup, do you? I'm sure he goes to something in Coruscant, so has to dress like. And that might be part of the MOSMA rescue mission. Are you implying that Mon Motha and Andor might cross paths or something? Is that what you're saying? I wouldn't object to that. I mean, her husband's an asshole. I wouldn't object to that at all.
01:21:21
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Oh, that's it. oh oh Watching that guy get his comeuppance would be great. Oh, that's something to look forward to. It is so great when the internet comes as one and goes, Perrin, we hate you. You're the worst. And there's these imperials, but you're worst.
01:21:45
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Yeah. kather Catherine, I'll be completely honest with you. There may have been a message that I sent Andy within the last week in the middle of the night that I was like, what are the odds that we get like Andor and Mon Mothma having a secret love child that...
01:21:57
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like in the middle of season two. And then I think your response was Ray's mom. I'm like. I did not say that. I'm denying that. I didn't say that at all. I didn't say that at all. I didn't want to get up. The internet would explode. That'd be fun. Mon Mothma and the hot banker who helped her out.
01:22:27
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Good guy. Good guy. Yep. Good guy. I'm here for it. No, I'm all for that. You never know as well. I mean, we're going to be experiencing, we're going to be experiencing five years. We know there are trains on Coruscant. Here's our buddy. Oh, God, what's his name? Come on. Dr. Pershing. Was he on a train?
01:22:55
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Yeah, he and what's the face, we're on a train um on Coruscant to go yeah get those to those file to the recla files from yeah from the um Star Destroyer. yeah yeah yeah Yeah. Anyway, point being is that, you know, we know there are trains. There's no reason why Cassie and it during his assignment on Coruscant can't have a, can't have a, um, a loft cat. There you go.
01:23:25
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ah lofka Again, this is this is the Catherine special edition. Yeah, we can have the serious like Canon. This is Canon. This is actual Andor and here you go, Catherine. Here's the DVD bonus extras of just this stuff. You can see it on the back of the DVD, can't you? It's like the reviews are best episode i ever. Catherine Nien, Melbourne, Australia.
01:23:54
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Yeah. Yes. Sorry. Yeah. So Tokyo, you've got a lot going on there. Yeah. Are you?
Plans and Expectations for Japan Celebration
01:24:03
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Yep. And an after a celebration, ah Tokyo Disneyland. I thought late you hadn't said that. OK. I've still got to wait for them to release the yeah know more of the hotel dates because you've got to wait like four months or something. um Yeah, so that's coming into place. Yeah. They make it really hard. They make it really hard to get into like they make it really crazy like to get the hotels and the tickets. And you think that's going to translate to when you're there. But then once you're physically there, they like they kind of scare you because like the lines outside, but everybody's very civil and no one's touching each other. And it's just like then the gates open. It's like, oh. And then once you're inside, it's like it's just.
01:24:51
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It's like, whoa, it's all on the front end. It's all just getting a hotel. Everything else is just a cakewalk and smooth sailing. It's like the complete opposite of the US parks. It's very frustrating for somebody like me. And all the queues generally shorter than the US.
01:25:10
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the it's it's the It's the opposite. So the US, people are very opportunistic and I'm gonna spend a bunch of money and we like everything's just chaos. Everything's just congested and everybody's fighting and lines and cutting and whatever. But in and my experience with Tokyo Disney is,
01:25:33
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Most of the people there, depending on time of year, i't I can't speak for when we're going to be there. yeah um They're there all the time, like they live there. And so they're not paying to ride in the express lines. I'm just going to call them express lines because I'm not going to remember all the dumb terminology that they tend to change all the time.
01:25:53
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So therere they're willing to wait because they don't it's not like they're there for four days and they have to fly back home. So if you were to pay, so like when we went, we paid for like the Express Lines for a handful of things and we walked right on because nobody else was using it because they're all willing to wait.
01:26:14
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So the bang for the buck was we we we went to the park and we wrote literally everything. right We did everything in the park in half the day. when We ate it everywhere we wanted. The only thing we couldn't do were some of the crazy like one time a day shows.
01:26:32
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like ah like a like a festival show that was in something that had limited seating, and then that's what everybody's fighting over. right yeah like Or if there's if there's a parade and it rained at the first one, and there's then everybody's sitting on the ground six hours ahead of time before the next parade, getting rained on because they're not missing that parade, because it's a limited time parade. It's like, okay, that's where it's different. But getting on rides, you could just,
01:27:02
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No problem at all. Walk right on. Yeah, it's it's like the exact opposite of the U.S. pretty much. And is that your is that your Katherine, is that your is that your kind of is that your swan song before you catch the flight back? Have you got further plan? OK, yes, it's still packed. You know, Australians, you know, we're not here to fight spiders. ah yeah um or to quote survivor, if I do anything, I go full tilt. Like we just, we, it takes a long time to get places. So when we get there, we got to go just so full on at it. Um, because you know, like we were saying, Oh, it's so close. It's only 10 hours. Yeah. That is what we've been saying. Like we're going, Oh, it's practically a home celebration. It's only 10 hours.
01:28:01
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Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, and I pray for you guys. It is one step closer to that that announcement where celebration look will be held in Melbourne, Sydney. Who knows? We'd love it. And every night again, we have this conversation about our respective convention centers. They're all big enough.
01:28:30
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and nice enough to be able to hold it. The Melbourne in particular is incredibly close to CBD, like it's across the river, you cross the bridge and you're there. And as it is, there's food precincts and everything there. It's very good for public transport, but it's just getting all the other stuff. I'm with you. It's a long, long way. From America and from Europe. It's a long way from anywhere. I know what you mean. Come.
01:29:00
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I know, Amy. With Japan, there's enough sort of Japanese unique things that if there's a shortcoming of stuff from America, there's enough Japanese things. I don't think there's the same thing in Australia. Now, obviously, if we had something like this in Australia, we'd have you know, the attack for the clones and revenge of the Sith of actors there to do it. And technically, Genevieve O'Reilly, who plays Mon Mothma, is not Australian, but she's done a number of Australian things. So she was in the dry with um Eric Banner, you know, perfect Australian accent. But weren't all the prequels filmed there anyway, or was it just it was the only attack of the clone? Yeah, yeah, that's yeah. So you'd get your you'd get the
01:29:49
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Well, that's she was working in Australia at that point. I think she'd moved to Australia as like a teenager. um And so, yeah, she was working there. I think it's all right. they don't yeah Nothing was filmed in Chicago or Orlando. yeah So I think it'd be OK if it goes to Australia. Just as long as it's not in Perth, I think we're OK.
01:30:12
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Yeah, look, Perth is a long way from from a lot of places, apart from maybe Bali. But um yeah, Perth is the most isolated capital city in the world.
01:30:26
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um yeah Melbourne, Sydney has got great connections. I mean, Sydney in particular, I'll admit that, has has got great connections to the to the world, like all the airlines will go there.
01:30:43
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Melbourne too has a a lot of great connections. You can get there also, but I mean, it'd be great, but we're realistically thinking that after Japan, it would probably go back to America. I guess it has to. um I guess it has to. um You know, it's, um yeah, because They haven't had it since, when was Anaheim? Anaheim 2022.
01:31:17
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ah
01:31:22
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God, it was only a year before London. I didn't realise that. Yeah, I remember you on that last day when they announced where it's going to be, being the Australians and And the Americans were a bit more, and it only being, at that point, less than a year away because Anaheim was in May,
01:31:48
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um that it was a quick turnaround and but hard for budgeting. It was hard for everyone in terms of budgeting. It broke it. I do have a last proper question for you, but I was going to ask actually ask the question, do you think they'll go back to you annually? Because that's expensive.
01:32:08
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No. Okay. I have a comment on that too. I don't think they've got enough to yeah quote unquote content um to make it. Obviously what when they are in this warm movies cycle, they might think about it, but I don't know because I don't know if they've got enough because Chicago was a five-day celebration. Immediately the first day was this like preview day where there was no panels, so everyone was walking the floor.
01:32:46
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um I don't know if they'd have the day like that again. um
01:32:54
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Yeah, Anaheim and London then were four days, Japan's three days. So I don't know, you know, I don't know whether they make it every year again because do they have enough to sustain that sort of energy? And yeah, look,
01:33:13
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A bank balance is hurting. We've all like like so likes be grown ups for the minute and go, yeah, inflation and mortgage is hard.
01:33:27
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um and there' It's been really hard the last yeah couple of years with with all of that. um and Yeah, like I've planned this trip, but yeah, it's rough on the old finances. Well, I mean, this is it it this kind of what I was getting at. You know, thanks to you guys, I've kind of caught the bug now and I i want to I want to be involved, but good God, that's going to be gonna be hard to maintain if there's an expensive flight every year coming coming my way. there's There's no way they can do every year. like Even they can't afford that, because it's the diminishing returns.
01:34:14
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and so Like I want to whisper this part, but I'm i'm gonna say it like I first I'm gonna preface it with like I love all of our friends and I feel bad I I i wish everybody was going to Japan and I'd i do anything to have everybody there but like I I will say like I I really do not want there to be a celebration in 2026 right like primarily because I do I feel like that would what that will entail will meaning basically say that the Japan one will be ah Limited like it's it's gonna be right Cuz I feel like I feel like that's what they've done at others like when there wasn't one that was immediately after that means they were just able to like have a Less content there.
Future Star Wars Films
01:35:03
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When's the next like oh we'll just do is the next film? What does have it be when's the next movie coming out?
01:35:09
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May 2026 is when they're saying the um Mando and Grogu, that one, you know, we know they are literally filming it, um whether it will come out May 2026. I mean, who knows? I like Star Wars at Christmas. Yeah, me too. That's a personal preference. I think it goes really well together.
01:35:35
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um So I prefer Star Wars at Christmas time. But I think, you know, having the 2022-2023 celebrations, I think in some ways that was a quirk of covid having yeah having, you know, the 2020 celebration put off until 2022.
01:35:58
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Like, so I don't know. And then we've, you know, it was, it's been two years, or it will be two years until...
01:36:10
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I don't think they may be thinking, well, we're going to have to do something in 2026 because that will be our launch pad for, that'll be our springboard for the new movie. I don't think they need celebrations for the movies. I really don't think they need it. It's coming out in May. It only gives them a month to do anything. And to be honest, I don't think, hold on to your britches, I don't think Mando and Grogu warrants a celebration.
01:36:41
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i think um no I don't think the Mandoverse warrants it like anymore. i think not It's not new. I think the the next big films, not the okay ah super long Disney Plus release that we're putting in theaters, which is what I'm calling my non-ground good. Not diminishing it. I'm not. I'm so excited. I love it. Fantastic. to holes It is positive, it is positive, but I'm like, it's not the Ray movie. It's not, it it is. no it is here it ah and i i get coin And I think Disney's kind of seeing it that way too, like with some of the stuff that they're doing, like it's May, they're putting it out in May. It's not going to be Christmas. yeah
01:37:20
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like
01:37:23
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like So I think that's the thing where it's like, I would hope they're not doing it in 2026. I would hope it's going to be in May 2027, preparing for a 2027 December release movie. okay yeah And people just being like, guess what? We got a movie coming out in six months. get Buckle up. okay It's about to be nuts. okay Because, yeah, Chicago, which was that's April, late April type of time, because it was Easter. um We got the episode nine trailer and release of the title.
01:38:02
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and yeah Ian McDermott coming out saying, roll that chicken. Yes, I lost my mind. I may have lost feeling in my legs. I think everyone did. I was so excited. We had out sewiches we had no idea what they felt how the how the film was going to end up, but I think everyone was yeah was. Say what you want about that film, but I have never been a i've never experienced anything like being in the the big arena.
01:38:31
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Yeah, when that trailer rolled and like I thought the That was as close to like a happy riot that I've ever been in my life like and people were just like wow It was like it was it was bananas And that was a big arena too. The Chicago celebration was probably the weirdest one out of all, in a good way. It was just so massive. So Catherine. There's a whole side of the convention center I didn't get to apart from once. I'm like, oh, OK, it's over here. I'd love to have it in Chicago again. That was just such a bizarre in a good way. It was crazy.
01:39:14
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I didn't love having to cross that road to get to the big... Yeah, that was that was crazy. Yeah. you know On snow day. So, Catherine. Yeah, good night snow. That'd be fantastic. So, Catherine, last question.
01:39:26
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and um ah Last of your, last of your questions, maybe. Yeah, I do. Do you ship in any time? What does it say? Yeah, so assuming that we're going to get a boatload of Andorf, a boatload of Andorf during the event, assuming we're going to get loads and loads of panels that you're going to get into, because if you don't get into them, we're going to get you into them and we're going to break you in. um Assuming and or everything and one what a yeah way end exactly um ah um but but but assuming that you get everything you want for Andor, is there anything else
01:40:15
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the question is what do you hope we'll get to see it celebration japan i'm gonna i'm gonna put a caveat to these and say apart from everything you want for andor is there anything on top of that that you would like to see that they focus a little bit of time on i I do like that with that um announcement of Visions Season 3, they've announced there's a lot more anime again, so it's going back to that first season and so you kind of think, yeah, well, the panels for that or the announcements, the little teasers, we might get for that at
01:40:52
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um, celebration Japan are going to be top notch. I love, I don't think, I don't know whether we'll get it or not, but there are a couple of stories in that first season of visions that you love to see more of. Like so there were some you go, Oh, mate, you've leaving me on red. Like, come on, can we get a bit more of those? Um,
01:41:18
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Yeah. So I think we'll we'll get a lot of visions because eight you can't tell me that it's a coincidence that season three of visions has gone back to the Japanese anime studios and they're going to have celebration in Japan doing not long before the release of Season 3 Evisions. You can't tell me that's not a coincidence. That's a coincidence, yeah. now i feel I think it's a good i think it's it's probably not particularly clever, but I think it's a really, really smart move. it makes it's it's a note it's ah It's a no-brainer.
01:41:53
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Um, but they're going to do that. And again, it's, I talked to Sean and Josh about this a couple of weeks back in that I'm literally flying in. and um'm Um, I'm, I'm there for celebration. I'm flying out again. So having the opportunity to, to experience a small smidgen of, of Japanese culture, uh,
01:42:16
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is something I'm really looking forward to. And I think that that, exactly exactly that, will satisfy that itch a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, so this will be my first time to a celebration in um yeah a non-English speaking country. i've And when I've traveled on my own and being in a non-English speaking country, it's been in Europe. So, you know, it almost, it doesn't count in a way because I can read, you can read a lot of like German.
01:42:54
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yeah I did enough German at school, I can read my way through a lot of things. um ah you can But in Japan, it'll be totally and will be a totally different experience. um I was surprised at helma how much English everybody spoke and how much English was f was literally everywhere.
01:43:17
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ah yeah I know that a lot of signs, especially yeah and in train stations and things, because yes, I watch a lot of YouTube videos about trains, um that yeah announcements, and do have English and things. On one of the Shinkansens, the voice off of the Shinkansens actually Australian.
01:43:39
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i Yeah, so yeah, but still it'll be ah a different, a totally different sort of traveling
Life in Australia and Autograph Stories
01:43:51
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experience. So that will be, it'll be, yeah. I'd love to get your thoughts on after the fact because for me, yeah not being able to understand people naturally, like I tend to hear a lot when I'm like, yeah I pick up and so not being able to naturally understand people, I'd almost,
01:44:10
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It almost felt quieter in a lot of ways because I wasn't naturally listening to everything everybody was saying. So I was just like, I guess lost, lost in myself, like lost in the situation a lot more. So I'm curious if you have a similar experience or the opposite ah or just neither. I'm ah i'm curious to how that goes for you. Yeah.
01:44:33
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And I think traveling on my own will also be interesting in that kind of environment as well. um The Google Translate app is fantastic. With the little camera, you can hold up an old Translate it all, like an old picture, and put the words over it. It's like, oh, it's amazing. I love it. yeah Yeah, that's the sort of use of the like AI type of technology. I go, yeah, OK, I can live with that. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, all right, we'll draw the line here. No, nothing further. You're right there. Yes, yes. Excellent. I do have a couple quick rapid rapid-fire questions for you. Nothing too deep. Me? Answers about things rapidly? No, no, hopefully they're quick. ah So, hypothetically, somebody wanted to run away that and move to Australia. Where would you recommend? Melbourne, Sydney, Perth?
01:45:27
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they If they didn't live in Australia and they wanted to move there, I've heard some people recommend Sydney like turbo. Other people say Melbourne. Yes, well, I say Melbourne um because we've got a fantastic comedy scene here. There is live music scene here. ah There's lots of things. There's a great food scene here as well. It's a fantastic city. Obviously, the weather is in c incredibly variable. That's the biggest gripe we have. um Melbourne is rapidly growing.
01:46:06
Speaker
So Sydney, um but we're growing faster, so we're going to overtake Sydney. But left field, think about some of the regional areas of Victoria, New South Wales, um and even perhaps Adelaide. Or if you want nice weather, Brisbane, that's up in Queensland. It's about to ask about Brisbane.
01:46:30
Speaker
That's where Bluey lives. So that's also got that going for it. Yeah. But obviously, Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide, and Perth are AFL cities. And it says Hobart. Sydney is also rugby. Brisbane's far stronger rugby. Me, Melbourne Girl, AFL all the way.
01:46:56
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I know a lot of people don't understand that. that Yes, there is a very big rivalry between Sydney and Melbourne. It's existed for a very long time. That's why Canberra is our capital and is where it is.
01:47:13
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because it's out to break up that our founders couldn't could' it you break the decision, break the argument as to where the capital is going to be, Sydney or Melbourne. um So they had to build one. um However, for the first 22 years of our federation, the parliament was in Melbourne, I'd just like to say. Interesting.
01:47:37
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That's all interesting food for thought. Madison will ah greatly appreciate, okay, not somebody whose name might be Madison, will greatly appreciate these answers. my My other two questions, well, they don't have to be answered right now, but they are food for thought for a future, as we get closer to Andor. One of our ah one of them is actually closer to celebration. One of them is, hypothetically, somebody who may or may not be a strong swimmer, should they consider a quino loi cosplay?
01:48:06
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I don't know. Yes. Yeah. Yes. I'll write that one down for myself. Are you seriously, seriously are you seriously considering this? With employees. No, that's more of just a joke. Not not for, and I'm not gonna wear. But if they do the, not in Japan, but if in the U.S., if there's a celebration, and if they're gonna do the one-way-out running, you know, how wouldn't that just fit? Like, if I'm not a strong swimmer, why wouldn't I dress as Kino Lloyd?
01:48:33
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like You only live once, one way out, and you come up. You've got to have the um blower, your spinners, like floaties and photos little things. I tell you what, if it were going to cosplay, because you know I'm not a fan of going as bail in fact. Where's my wave? In fact, I'd prefer to shave than then shave the beard off and then then be they be pressed gang like that, Hoffman.
01:48:59
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um but um I Wouldn't mind doing they there's there's a couple of companies on mullet deuce a really good not keena 5 Jammy set I'd I'd be interested in getting No,
01:49:16
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no, I noted noted just so you know I've I've already mentioned this Madison if I Ivanka whatever her name is if if Shinhari is in Japan I am getting I am getting her autograph, and I'm wearing the wig You don't have to be there, but it's happening. I'm actually it's a good point. That's a good point. Are you? but well yeah yeah You guys okay for time for a couple of minutes is that okay? Okay, you guys sorry yeah either of you I know you're a bit of an autograph fiends or were sorry Sean What about you Catherine are you an autograph thing? Oh?
01:49:52
Speaker
Not really. I've never really done it. um I've been to a few Star Trek conventions right ah a long time ago and I got some signatures there, but it's not been something i've I've done. I haven't done it at the celebrations. It was something I think I thought about, but then I freaked about, especially about maybe getting a photo.
01:50:18
Speaker
But i I'd have to do it for Diego. like i'd have I'd have to do it. um like It's one of those things of, yes, they can be a lot of money, and you then struggle with bills.
01:50:38
Speaker
thought is it going to be something that you regret doing? I don't know. it's got to be way then There's got to be a way the that you getting his autograph is outside the normal ah normal process. There's got to be a way that we can let his people know if he doesn't already know. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't. The point being is that if he doesn't already know. I don't think he's blocked me. Well, there you go. There you go. that that's a that's a good sta har it's a good That's a good step. good step.
01:51:08
Speaker
But we should yeah should we should we should talk to his people, Sean. Let's find a way to speak to his people. The reason why I was asking... We should talk to his people. Yes, all right. wow but hi Hi, Diego. I'm Andy. and a yeah Big fan, big fan. ah Anyway, i was um the reason why I was asking, because I'm not in any way a signature's guy.
01:51:34
Speaker
i It's one of those things that I know that if I'd end up being a completionist about, i couldnt i couldn't I couldn't put myself through that. However, I'm really, really up for doing something. If Alan Tudyk still would be there.
01:51:49
Speaker
I need to get his autograph. And not for K2, but as wash um from Firefly. I've got i've got um and i've got a a vintage wash figure. very yeah let The thing's down here. It's in near mint condition. It's carded and I've got this. and was one ah Again, it's one of those two o'clock in the morning thoughts that I had, which was I'm going to take that with me. I'm taking that with me. And if I do get managed to get on, get get him signed something, I want to get him signed that. And then, you know, then and then I started manifesting this in my brain as to what I do to make him laugh. And I'd also probably pay for a photograph as well, a photo moment. And I'd get him to say, have you guys, if you guys watch The Knight's Tale, you must have watched The Knight's Tale. Yeah. Yeah, okay fine. So um
01:52:46
Speaker
I'd get him to, i'd i'd just as the camera's about to about to click, I'd say, right, everyone say, it's called a lance, hello. If you've if you've seen a knife's tail, that's a ah moment that made me laugh. Anyway, sorry, I've got a bit of a sick single wet.
01:53:06
Speaker
i I know I'm ah i'm pretty sure I've probably said this before. it's like I know I have. I've probably wax poetic about the the signature stuff before. What's funny is I actually don't care about the signature. The signature is just like yeah what they the seconds of and the interaction. like it's It gives them something to do. like For Alan Tudyk, I would probably get his depending on the price.
01:53:28
Speaker
but like similar to yours with Wash, I would probably make him sign, like I'd probably bring one of the chicken from Moana and have him sign that. just just Just to be like, that's because that's how much the signature injur just doesn't really matter to me. But one, I think that's fine think it's hilarious. And two, it's more about the interaction. I just think that'd be funny. And like if I could ever do get Ewan McGregor's for under $4 billion, dollars the one that would be important to me is,
01:53:57
Speaker
ah him him in big fish, like in the field with the flowers, like that would be, like I would yeah do that if it was not eight eight and a half, the the price went up already, it's $8 billion dollars now. um Like I would do that. But it like to me, it's that's the thing. Like I know I've said it before, it's not about the signatures, like I couldn't do a photo. Like if somebody's like, hey, you wanna take a photo with Ewan McGregor? I'd be like, do I have to be in it? yeah Like, can i can I just take can i take his photo? yeah Like, no, you got to be in it. It's like, I don't want that. I don't like because then it's just me being me and him. And it's weird when I put it on the wall and I know it's just like, yeah, I don't like being in photos as it is like I don't like looking myself in photos. So, but yeah, it's rough.
01:54:43
Speaker
that there are There are a few artists, and not a lot, but there are a few artists that I admire. um And not necessarily because of Star Wars. If if if Donald Glover was there, id ah he's another he's another autograph I'd go for as well. um The solely Star Wars stuff, I probably wouldn't go for. um But yeah, all good, all good. Sorry, I went off for a little bit of a tangent there. Any more questions for our friend Catherine?
01:55:11
Speaker
ah This is a future one you can think about, you don't have to answer now, but this is one that I want people to mull around in their head. Since nobody likes Perrin, I mean, I freaking hope not, think about leading up to season three, who who do we want to see deliver the beatdown that he deserves?
01:55:31
Speaker
Like, I'm sure everybody has different answers. And I can give i can give my answer. I want to see Katie O'Brien, the imperial officer. I would love to see that. I want to see her give, be the one to deliver the beat down that I think he deserves. Val. Val. I like that. i I like that answer, too. Andy, do you have, now that you're on the spot, it's two of us have answered. I would have stolen that as well. I didn't even think of it. But i but now that you've said it, I think you i think you win the yeah but you win the night there, Catherine.
01:56:00
Speaker
The only other thing I can think of is, um... Good God. Uh... There's so many good options. It's literally anybody. There's no wrong answer. Why can't I just be beaten with, um, beaten with the brick? Just beaten with the brick. Yeah. The brick's the worst by anybody. I love it. That's it. That's mosts my question. That's all I had.
01:56:26
Speaker
Katherine, thank you so much. um I hope we haven't all dragged you out for so long. Too long, sorry. No, no it's um so it's okay time for me. I know it's very late for you. It's all good.
Closing Remarks and Appreciation
01:56:40
Speaker
I just wanted to make this happen because it was it was some trying to coordinate three time zones is a lot of fun.
01:56:47
Speaker
an awful lot of fun. yes but now thank you Thank you so much for joining us. and um you know it it it was It was only going to be a matter of time, but the fact that it all the stars are aligned and that we've got this little snippets of Andor news along with the discussion around celebration, it seemed like a perfect opportunity. Thank you very much. and we can It's a stupid question because if they're listening to us, they already know where you are. But where can where can the lovely people of the internet find you? out
01:57:21
Speaker
Well, it's mainly Blue Sky now. That's where I ah post, but I'm tending to respond more on. So at Catherine Nene on Blue Sky. No, underscore there. I'm also on threads at Catherine underscore Nene there. um That geek pod is on Blue Sky, Twitter, threads, and Instagram. I'm Facebook.
01:57:51
Speaker
um and Yes, I promise at some point I'll record another podcast, but eight you know the weeks get away from you. and yeah Well, there's a good chance you and I are going to be talking again in a few days anyway, aren't we?
01:58:10
Speaker
Yes, yes. ah Good old skelly crew. So, yes, you can hear me a lot on Stowals Belt Out um saying, Josh is very good to have me on so often. um Oh, no, no, no. Come on. You're the one with the sensible ideas. You're the one that actually makes sense. The rest of us are eric and and ink Don't even say the word, but you know what I mean.
01:58:36
Speaker
Thank you again. I think they call that an egg. She's an anchor. She's the anchor. that's that that's That's exactly what I meant. She's actually what I meant. and Thank you again. but um If you see the celebration, I'll be the one wearing the Stowe's felt-out beanie.
01:58:52
Speaker
and then being carried out by paramedics as well because she's fainted for the 11th time that that that that that day because of the intense focus on Andor. Thank you again. Thank you for being our friend. um Thank you for everything that you do. Thank you for the amazing amount of positivity that ah you bring to this community ah without question and without any condition. And um yeah, look forward to catching up with you soon.
01:59:20
Speaker
Sean, buddy, thank you for steering the ship, as always. And, um, lovely lots, buddy. I'll catch up with you during the week after the first two episodes of The Skeleton Crew.
01:59:36
Speaker
Take us out, bud. Thanks, buddy. Thanks, buddy. Thank you, Catherine. Thank you so much, really. It really means the world. ah Thank you to everybody who listened. um If you you know where to find us, justshowin.com. You can catch us on Blue Sky, where we talk about everything. There's a ton of people over there now. We're talking about all sorts of stuff, not just talking about being on Blue Sky. You can catch us on Instagram, where I am sending memes talking about Bug and Andy about Wicked.
02:00:02
Speaker
ah you can That's pretty much all I'm talking about on Instagram. So that's you know get just before you go there. That's what you're getting into um but Yeah, I appreciate it We'll see you again in a couple days. Once again. Thank you so much to Catherine If you haven't listened to geek pod, you have to it's so good. She's quality over quantity Telling you it's fantastic. Oh, I'll have that as my tagline Once again, thanks everybody until next time