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Episode 048 - Road to Celebration 3 (Turbo-Charged) image

Episode 048 - Road to Celebration 3 (Turbo-Charged)

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Ahoy mateys! Today we chat about Skeleton Crew and dig into part 3 of our Road to Celebration series with special guest, Turbo!

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Introduction and Andy's Absence

00:00:01
Speaker
Ahoy mateys, and welcome to Just Skirven. I am one of the captain's. so Sean Hoffman. I thought I'd try it, but it's not I'm not going to do that ever again. um Welcome to Just Skirven. I'm one of your hosts, Sean Hoffman. And unfortunately,
00:00:17
Speaker
um Andy is not gonna be here with us today. ah He's had a couple, some medical things pop up and we're we're thinking of him, we're thinking of you buddy. And he's gonna be back soon and we're gonna let him tell that story when when he's back. But if everybody can just keep him in your hearts, then he'll be back soon enough.
00:00:38
Speaker
but We do have somebody filling in for him today. Thankfully, it's not just gonna be me rambling on with one-liners and actually ah actually having a coherent conversation today. And thankfully, thankfully, we have our good friend Turbo here with us. How's it going, buddy?
00:00:56
Speaker
i I don't know about your conversations, but um I'll try my best and and string strings some words together. But yeah, really thinking about Andy. um Love you mate. and And hopefully you'll get back soon and we'll be chatting soon.

Navigating Without Andy

00:01:12
Speaker
So then yeah.
00:01:13
Speaker
I was just mentioning that right before we started recording, I'm like, man, I just had the wave of an epiphany hit me. I'm like, oh, no. Normally, Andy's the one who gets excited. And when a guest comes on and he just kind of runs with him, I can sit in the passenger seat and just kind of like, I don't know, just enjoy it. Go to cruise control. He's going to cruise control. And I just throw ad-libs in here and there. And it's like, oh, crap. I can't do that today. I actually have to be present.
00:01:41
Speaker
and like Well, no, what am I done? I should I should have been more prepared, but ah i feel like I think we're pretty good I feel like we're yeah, you know, I think we'll be alright. We got some we got some good content out there We got some cool same stuff going on. We're gonna talk a little bit about what we've been watching.

Family and Personal Life

00:01:56
Speaker
We're gonna talk a little celebration you know the usual usual suspects and uh But uh, I think a good place to start it off is Guess first ah what's what's new in your life any e new shows games? recipes anything exciting
00:02:13
Speaker
What's new in my life? Yeah, it's December. I don't know about other people, but December is just a very frantic time of year. End of school in Australia. So my boys are finishing up next week at school. So there's a lot of end of year sort of Christmas, you know, festivities and school assemblies, awards. My son finishes primary school. My youngest son finishes primary school.
00:02:38
Speaker
next week and heading to high school next year so nice kind of fairly daunting for him um and uh yeah we had his um band i guess we'd call it a school band party last night so nice that was a good time um i actually skipped my work christmas party just to to go to the school band party so yeah priorities family priorities um i yeah like you write made the right decision there i feel like that's Well I'm not hungover, that put it there. That's fair. That'd be crazy if you were. Crazy kid party, yeah. What have I been watching? As I said, it's pretty busy, obviously Skeleton Crew. The two shows I'm currently watching are Silo and Shrinking.
00:03:25
Speaker
I'm fairly up to date with those, really loving those at the moment. In terms of movies, I think last week, one of the craziest movies I've seen in a while last week was The Substance. I'm a big horror fan. This one stars Denny Moore and it is absolutely insane.
00:03:51
Speaker
I can't really talk too much about it. I just highly recommend it if you're into horror. um If you're not into horror and you're a bit queasy when it comes to certain, that certain genre. um You can imagine that's something like in the style of a ah Cronenberg film, sort of a body horror kind of film. The title sounds like a body horror film. There's something about it. Absolutely insane that Demi Moore is great in it and um Yeah. right I was, I was kind of taken aback by a lot of what I saw, but yeah, um, it is, a it is work really well made film. Um, nice. Great directions in the top of features. Music. It's just intense. Intense.
00:04:34
Speaker
Good, good deal, good deal. Yeah, I just looked at the poster on IMDB and it's like, I think that, that alone is like, that's not what I expected. um It's just, yeah, it yes looks, it looks like intense. I put it on my list. I don't know if it's going to be the top of my list, but it's a, I'm always, I liked, I liked those ones where it's not, like my horror, my horror picks are very interesting.
00:04:55
Speaker
Like I think I i usually like the ah exact opposite of what most people like like minor Paranormal activity. I don't know what those are. I'd love those films. Those are just ah And then like weird body of horror ones sometimes like not like human centipede kind of stuff but like Thing stuff like that. Yep. Yep does weird goofy effect Maybe it's like this the effects side of it. I think it's really cool. But interesting interesting interesting Yeah that's That's really it in terms of what I'm watching. Taking some time off every Christmas. My oldest son is currently playing his way through outlaws. So he got that a couple of months ago. So he's begging me to play that every every night I feel like I'm um either doing work or I just, I keep telling him, i I'll do it on the weekend, do it on the weekend. And then you have like jobs to do, you know, parent stuff. and
00:05:52
Speaker
I kind of feel like Win's dad in a way sometimes. it's like You've you've got you you got your dad there and you yeah you want your dad's attention. but um look i'll got to I've got some time off so hopefully I'll get to play another summer.

Balancing Hobbies and Responsibilities

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Speaker
I've got about close to two weeks off over Christmas and New Year. I'm hoping to get into Outlaws.
00:06:11
Speaker
yeah like i I was getting into it there for a while, but now that like it's one of those ones where December is that time where it's like, I feel like I have a lot of time, but I have no time. its i um'm good I'm gonna sit down, I'm gonna play some outlaws. then it's like Well, I've got 700 other things I got to get done. Like I got to coordinate gifts or I've got to make candy or I've got to suddenly shovel three feet of snow out of the driveway or God knows why I'm behind in work. And so it's like Outlaws always seems to be the one that takes the backseat. Yeah, it took a backseat for me, especially and and this this could go into a segment of just just decking. but um
00:06:55
Speaker
Oh, yes, I was going to say, are we going to make it through it? Are we going to make it through without talking about decking? Yes. I won't go into great detail, but like I think I was there last time when we were starting off a whole sort of two or three month process of going through all the decks in the house. It may sound like I have a very big house, but it I have four decks in the house. um And I think Sean's seen photos. It is a mammoth effort. It takes ah yeah literally months of Sundays. ah And I had to get that done before we had our ah Family Christmas at our house. We're hosting Family Christmas for 25-ish people, um yeah pool, barbecue, that sort of thing. So that was my deadline ah to get the decks done. And they're done for for summertime, so pretty relieved. And they're nice. They look really good. like You're talking about having that many people. I wouldn't have 10 people stand out on on mine. like that's
00:07:49
Speaker
Like that, but your dears are like top tier, like you put pictures, it's like that looks like modern, professional, nice, stable. It's all hardwood, so we we live in a bushfire zone, so you have to use hardwood everywhere. Really dense grade hardwood. Yeah, you'd think we should, but we we don't. No, were we our local councilors are pretty strict around that. there There are certain fire zones where they don't even allow to use timber. It all has to be yeah steel. Yeah.
00:08:20
Speaker
i think I think if we had a different, not climate, but a different political climate, I think we would have stuff like that here. like They try, me because i'm i don't know if i I don't know if you could live in a place in the US that is more fire-prone than where I live, ah just literal wildfire central, like to the to the point where it's a struggle to get insurance, um when we should have stuff like that. like we have like like rules about how close trees can be to your home and things like that and just all all those rules, but we should have more composites and things like that, but it's just not, but mar yeah.
00:09:07
Speaker
yeah ah But yeah, um anything else anything else exciting going on besides besides decking parties, graduations? No, that's, that's it. Uh, one thing else to report apart from Skelly crew, Skello crew.

Star Wars TV Discussion and Spoilers

00:09:24
Speaker
Um, I don't know about you, but when it's Star Wars TV time or Star Wars season or whatever you want to call it, I kind of get overwhelmed. My thoughts become overwhelmed with Star Wars. So I can't think about anything else. Same, same.
00:09:38
Speaker
I have to rewatch it and then think about things and then read things and listen to my friends talk about things. and i yeah I get a single focus. I get a single focus and I'd say, especially now that like we're doing this podcast and stuff, it's almost it's almost worse now because Now I get into like weird things of like, well, I wanna have like my thoughts, like but not be super tainted by everybody else's. So I wanna hear my friends, but I also don't, but like I wanna share my opinions with with this, but like oh but I also wanna speculate with people and like, oh God, what's the order of operations? like How do I do this? And oh but and so it's it's it's fun, because you wanna be involved and you wanna be part of the hype.
00:10:27
Speaker
But then there's just, it is crazy like the day an episode drops. It's like, it just feels like chaos. Like there's so much, there's so much going on. There's so much to consume. It's like, yeah. And then it just, then it just trickles, trickles down through the week and it, by my mind just becomes 100%. It's not always television. thing I've avoided this round is, some I've deleted Twitter, or at least deleted Twitter off my phone. So that's one thing. And I'm just generally avoiding, not avoiding social media, but just not,
00:10:56
Speaker
really too concerned about what the zeitgeist is on social media about the thing. ah yeah And just really listening to what my friends think about it on podcasts and stuff and having group chats or whatever. But um yeah, I think it's ah it's healthy to not listen to people across the world that you don't really know or care about.
00:11:15
Speaker
so yeah Yeah, but there's a there's a, I'm a huge fan of of criticism, constructive criticism, but sometimes it's not, you don't always have to. Sometimes you can just like things, and I think i think I'm in the same boat. like i mean i I deleted Twitter, deactivated my account, and I think i the the little social media yeah that I do get on is just, it's it's really, what's weird is it's not even anybody really talking about Skeleton Crew besides like, Skeleton Crew is fun.
00:11:43
Speaker
It's like, OK. There's not much deeper than that, or it's links to other content. um It does seem to be a lot more actually talking about the acolyte, which is weird. like its idiots it's very it's very It's very odd that it's like the the bulk of the social media I do see is like active, deep discussions on the acolyte. So it's actually kind of nice. like I'm able to just sit back and enjoy Skeleton Crew for what it is with my friends.
00:12:12
Speaker
And it's almost like returning to like an in an age of innocence kind of like it feels like the beginning of like the force awakens and stuff again when like we're all just excited and not Overthinking it like I'm I'm very prone to doing this especially for like the show I've had to catch myself multiple times a skeleton crew like just going down this rabbit hole of like What's the bigger picture? It's like, can dude, just stop. like just like Just enjoy it. like It doesn't have to be this. It could be. It'd be cool or not. That's cool, too. But like I don't need to make it more. I could just sit back and enjoy it for what it is. And that's that's fine. That's fun.
00:12:51
Speaker
ah yeah
00:12:53
Speaker
We can jump. We can jump. We're already here. We're already in Skelton. So let's just roll into that. so at a high level, what are your what's your high level thoughts so far, episodes one through three? Are you digging it? Not for

Skeleton Crew Analysis

00:13:09
Speaker
you. may I think we can already assume, but I'll let you say it. This is exactly what I needed and I think a lot of Star Wars fans needed it's just a light refreshing fun romp parody romp great for kids to watch great for the whole family to watch and I
00:13:35
Speaker
I sit down ah after school, so as soon as my kids get home from school, but right my older son's really into Star Wars, my youngest couldn't really care too much, but he'll humor me and watch it. ah But for this particular one, I think he's digging it. He's exactly, my youngest is 12 and he is, ah it's the right age. It's absolutely the right age. I mean, it's the whole,
00:13:58
Speaker
what he's going through in his life in terms of you know going to high school next year, yeah making new friends, yeah trying to understand what he's going to do in life or at least think about studying. just that do I remember that myself and I'm flashing back to that time myself. it's It is really daunting. There's a bigger world out there and then he's going to have to start you know catching a train to school by himself or yeah hopefully friends.
00:14:24
Speaker
And yeah, it's really resonating with the family and so it's it's a good routine to do that first watch with your kids because you realize you that's that's really what it's there for and I just enjoy it myself as well. yeah it feels like It feels like it's good for that age without, in my opinion, falling into that trope that a lot of stuff like that does where it almost feels like it's pandering, like where it falls into those same kind of like, I always call it the middle school boy book titles, where they call you, I'm a monster, would you like to be a bear? It's like, you get what I'm saying, I don't know how to describe it, but you know what I'm saying, where it's like,
00:15:09
Speaker
You're a boy and you're you're a middle school and you're awkward. It's like that's it's so Adults talking to kids like this feels like it doesn't have all of that like oh the boys think the girls are cute and the girls think the boys have cooties and they're do-dadada and they're all just Unintentionally mean to each other. It's like no, they're just Two groups of friends who are just kind of like they like, they like and don't like each other at times and they're off on an adventure and they're just, it just is what it is. It doesn't have to be this, I don't know, the stereotype of maybe how the stores used to plum unfold. I just think it's kind of refreshing and nice to like let the kids be actual characters and not like ah caricatures. It's kind of nice.
00:15:55
Speaker
yeah and I'm loving the ah the dynamics between the kids is is great. I mean, and women, Neil, to me they're like the Frodo and the Samwise of the story. and I'm hoping Neil becomes the the unsung hero or the hero at the end. you knows becoming a bit more brave you know he's the original yeah feeling with him is he just wants to get home right that's yeah he doesn't want to be there he's a little bit scared a little bit daunting for him whereas win wants the adventure and but I think Neil's gonna Neil's gonna be the hero in this one I think towards the end yeah
00:16:35
Speaker
it is It is interesting to see like what, to think about that. like What is all of their arcs, what are their arcs gonna be? like neil Neil seems like it's like a ah like a bravery kind of thing. yeah The ones I struggle with are wim and women fern, because KBs you can kind of see too, like her weaving with like the the animals and the the relationships with other people and kind of like being like that the tech kind of role.
00:17:01
Speaker
But with women for like, especially for she kind of took a backseat in this last episode of being kind of like the brash smuggler. It's like, what are they? Is it going to be the negotiation between those two of like? How do they how do they turn and yeah have have some closure with whatever their arcs are? Well, maybe they won't have an arc, you know, it could just be kids there. that Yeah, they're hanging out. yeah They just like there's friends. Maybe they just end and their friends and they're not. They're not fighting each other for the captain seat anymore. They're like, you know what, we respect each other and then we go home and then tomorrow we go back to school. We do the the Batman and Alfred nod at each other at the lunch table and go. That was fun. Yeah. See you tomorrow.
00:17:48
Speaker
Yeah, in terms of this particular episode, um interesting title. ah Well, it's got the word interesting in it, I think. Interesting as an astrogation problem? Something like that? Sound right? That sounds right. If I remember the Star Wars spell title episode title properly, I believe that was in there, yeah.
00:18:08
Speaker
Yeah. And I'd like to know that the Google stats have only put people's search for astrogation as well. it's ah I mean, it sounds like it is what it is, right? It's it's astro or navigation, astrogation. I bet the numbers were through the roof. I bet as soon as I did.
00:18:27
Speaker
but What's funny is what's funny is I have like a notification thing that like as soon as like episodes go up on the streaming services I get like a notification. What's funny is the day before it There it's not normally wrong But it actually had a different title. It sent me like a different title when it was like added to the service. And then it changed like right before it went live for all of us. And it was like, whoa. What was the title? don't um What did it say? It said it was...
00:19:00
Speaker
pop amongst yourselves. Because I also noticed there was a spelling error and it was astrogration. And I mean, I'm just being nitpicky here, but I was like, what's astrogration? Do they mean astrogation? And according to my dizzy class, it still says astrogration. But anyway, that's weird. That's weird. Oh, TV feed. It was called... Coming of Age is what it was originally had on it. Wow.
00:19:27
Speaker
Okay. Could be something in that. Uh, but ah maybe it's just a Disney plus, you know, uh, engineered or someone just doing a typo publishing. It's and publish.
00:19:39
Speaker
less last minute Last minute changes, person press and publish. but ah yeah But yeah, I thought that was intriguing. It's like, yeah, we'renna we're going to go with the long version. It's like, all right, nice. ah okay So you're digging it. You like the u like interactions. What do you think of of Mr. Jude Law? How are you liking his character so far? any any Yeah, he's ah he's a he's a good mix of like sort of a Han Solo rogue and you know a little bit mysterious. and yeah He's obviously got multiple identities, multiple names. But I think he's acting really well with the kids as well. A lot of lot of the interaction with the kids is kind of fun. You can tell he's having a good time. He's hamming it up in a little bit in a way, but but not too over the top.
00:20:30
Speaker
um But yeah, there's a lot of, there's obviously a lot of mystery there with his character, but I'm sure we'll find out. We don't need to think too hard about it. Yeah. Like he's he's not, he's not intentionally cruel. Like he could be like a pirate. It's like, Oh, you're going to take me to where I'm going to go. And, but he's like, I know there's a power dynamic. I think he needs them to get back.
00:20:57
Speaker
somehow, whatever. He needs their ship and stuff. He has a blaster. He could just do it. But it is nice that he's like, I almost want to say treats them as equals in a way, like them as a unit. And it's like, all right, OK, deal, kind of a deal. But I don't know. It's kind of fun to see him, see a character take the kids seriously, even though they do have a droid backing him up. But still, it's a fresh take.
00:21:27
Speaker
And I kind of like how the the pace of how it's moving, especially around like the little mystery aspects. So we see in in episode two at the end, you know, in the shadows coming up, picking out of the shadows, and then and then you see them escape with the, you know, the key and potentially using the force with the key. And then then in this episode, the the kids are all in the universe asking the questions that we asked last week. Like, how's he going to do this? Was he going to do use a piece of string? Was it magnets? Was it a tractor beam? What did you use? and I like yeah they like that they haven't dwelled on that. and they just the the kids ah The kids are actively asking the questions that we asked. and you know It's it's it's kind of refreshing.
00:22:15
Speaker
it's almost It's almost like they had their writers like looking at it from that perspective and saying, like how can we keep the pace moving and like address these things, but also in a way that's kind of like under the covers going, like it doesn't matter. like It doesn't. yeah yeah How did he do it? it's like It doesn't matter. Let that let them say it and be like, have it be like a kid problem. It could have been magnets. It could have been a tractor beam. In a way, you could perceive it as like, let's make fun of the people. Let's make fun of us.
00:22:43
Speaker
Yeah, let's make fun of the adults. All the adults, like us, speculating, talking about, you know, has he got the force, doesn't he have the force? The key was wiggling a little bit. I think it was on a string, and it was like friction on the string. But then all of a sudden they just cut away. Like, it doesn't matter. Because there he's flying in the thing. And we're off to the races again. It's like, oh, OK.
00:23:05
Speaker
The funniest thing is I heard, I love Whores and Steel that on Steel's show, they yeah they talked about the magnetism of the key versus the actual key ring. Yeah, and it determined yeah that was was fun.
00:23:18
Speaker
It's like, what is the equivalent of, I remember watching that, cause I was, I like to get in and fuel, fuel that fire a little bit every once in a while. It's like, well, what are the metals? It still looks like a skeleton key. So it's like, do they have the equivalent of iron and like, like iron and and Star Wars? Like, would that be like a Ferris medal? Like I mean, what would that even be? And so. It's like, the kids just ask these questions and then they just move on. Like let's, it's basically telling the audience, just don't overthink it. Just have fun. Yeah.
00:23:49
Speaker
It's like, oh, because of my theory, I'm like, oh, I think it's like a handheld tractor beam because, you know, the first episode, they stopped the ship midair to board it. And I'm like, oh, I think that's foreshadowing. And then when those kids were like, oh, it could have been a tractor beam. That's like a thing that they I feel called out. Yeah.
00:24:05
Speaker
Yeah, I I should just Sit back and eat my popcorn and enjoy it for what it is I need to learn what it's like to be a kid watching Star Wars again. Yeah, that's that's my takeaway Yeah, but yeah um What else any so there's the whole Are you, so I know some of our friends are not not big fans of pirates, pirate speak, piratey things. Where does that land with you in terms of the Star Wars? I know in some ways, like especially with Smee and some of the other things, they're leaning pretty hard into this, I'm sure there's a term for it, like pirate speak, pirate-esque kind of things. where Is that landing for you? Is it is it not? Is it?
00:24:52
Speaker
ah Yeah, absolutely. That's for me. I mean, I don't, I don't see anything out of the ordinary of having pirates in Star Wars. Um, and the accents as well. Like if you really think about it, they've, there's always been different accents in Star Wars like that to sort of ham it up or you know, you've got the English, you know,
00:25:12
Speaker
in in English ah yeah Imperial officers and Tarkan and then, you know, well, they're the bad guys. they They're speaking proper English. And and then from our perspective in Australian, and you've got most of the original trilogy that have an American accent, right? And you've got Lando. Lando's like, you know, stereotypically African-American africanamerican black dude just that accent, right? and yeah yeah And I don't see anything different about this. It's just like, it's just another aspect, you know? Like someone from, I don't know, the north of England or Bristol or something, you know, with Nick Fass.
00:25:51
Speaker
just like It is what it is. And then you get Australians and Star Wars. You get Australian actors and you get you got Mendo like slightly moving in towards the the Australian accent. Yeah, it's that's interesting. jack secondly It's like it lead it leans towards more like a culture of like it it lends itself besides like the tropes of like pirate like pirates and stories and and Treasure Island and things like that.
00:26:16
Speaker
like it it it's saying something similar typically what Star Wars does they'll take the ah language and they'll make it about like it'll describe who who that that those creatures or whatever about it's like yeah it makes sense like they're they're they're literal pirates they have a tour to the like space station or whatever that thing would be considered and like I do. I like the extra hamming it up. I mean, I'm personally a fan, especially for s me, like just that little bit of like, i I like that little bit extra like Star Wars spice that they'll throw in and I'm like.
00:26:53
Speaker
Sometimes it's not a dig against fans, but i like sometimes I like to perceive it that way. It's like, oh, I'm going to lean back in and go, hi, one last time. It's for the kids, because it's to get the kids chuckle. But just, I don't know, that that kind of stuff. hey It's like, oh, all day. Just bring more more of that, more of the just cleverness, like Edgar Wright kind of the cheesiness in there. and We need it. More variety installed. The only thing that I don't want to happen in terms of like pirates and our version of pirates, our Earth version of pirates is to have some sort of musical song where the pirates are all having, doing a shanty or

Pirate Themes in Star Wars

00:27:34
Speaker
something, it singing. yeah I don't really want a musical aspect to it. Like I think that would be a bit too far you know to do. that
00:27:43
Speaker
I think now that you say that, it's like there are some tropes like, yeah, I don't want to see like a space battle where they're using like space cannons like that. Yeah. Yeah. Where they got like portholes. They're like, oh, push the star cannons up in the hole. And then it's like, OK, now we're going too far. Like now we've we've crossed that. Like it already went a little crazy with like the the big acorn hat things. It's like, OK, we're getting. But it is old. So like maybe it's we can we can brush some of that stuff under the rug. But and when do you start doing like Treasure Planet,
00:28:13
Speaker
full blown things or like barrels of gunpowder. People are walking around with steins and sleeping with the pigs. It's like, all right, we're going a little too hard on the Pirates of the Caribbean theme. Like, let's let's slow that roll down. But umm and but I'm enjoying that nonetheless.
00:28:32
Speaker
yeah I'm enjoying the mystery aspect of the planet. I love that the planet ad at Aten is, you know, there's something simmering under the surface and they're they're slowly addressing yeah each week, they're slowly addressing the the mystery aspect of it. And now we know that the planet has been hidden and the kids are essentially roughly from old republic times would you say or high republic i think it's been this is roughly confident yeah this is quite the topic of debate these days with different sources looking at subtitles and seeing capital letters some seeing lowercase letters right right that far no no what what what what old how old or what how capital how old are we talking or is that even
00:29:21
Speaker
like accurate if we did scrutinize it, if it did come with a capital O. yeah Look, regardless of what it is, we know that it's before the Empire, the kids aren't aware of a war, like the war? What war?
00:29:36
Speaker
yeah The thing that's most interesting to me is it's it's not even necessarily how long they've been isolated I guess probably way to say it it's Why are they like I'm I'm most interested in like who is the supervisor and why are they still isolated? What are the the means in which they're still isolated? Yes, who is the supervisor?
00:29:57
Speaker
That is... i The other question is, does the supervisor even exist? is it I started digging, you know is it some sort of AI? And they've just been talking to this supervisor that's lived all this time. Well, I'm glad you brought that up, Turbo, because you're you're how you're halfway down my my wild harebrained theory that has cropped up. Only halfway.
00:30:20
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I'm I'm of the belief so ah it started from hearing some reference talk. It's like oh, maybe they're kind of like the the Wally ship Yeah, and they're like, oh they you know, there's auto. They're on autopilot and the autopilot's just like Got a mission that it thinks it's supposed to be right, but I was like, that's too man could be it I think that's still great fantastic, but I'm like, hmm That's too easy for me to too easy for me to theorize. I got to go beeper. So then I was like what if What if it is sentient like it is it is a droid that is a supervisor or at least overseeing everything But it knows what it's doing and the humans are technically just Slaves to the droid unknowingly the droids are actually in control They have outside contact like the droid gotcha and all those other whatever those like droid mobs are that are in all the books where it's like yeah
00:31:17
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the droids rights people and like they they have outside contact. That's why the droids are modern because everybody keeps talking about that. It's like, oh, they they they're the ones facilitating all the outside ah communications and shipments and whatever. And humans just don't have any clue. And so they just like create this like suburbia style, like easy living ah lifestyle for humans. Because they're happy about their environment and they they it's and it's a nice it would be a nice suburb to live in. um And that's why you you keep them happy and keep them working. Kids are playing out in the street.
00:31:57
Speaker
So I wonder if there's something that human or sentient beings can do that droids can't. And that's what they need them for. That's what I'm worried about. I'm way down the rabbit hole now. And that's what the analyst does. We need the humans because there's something in our programming that prevents us from doing this, but we need them to do that so then we can continue to be this droid pirate gang that rules this world in secrecy.
00:32:29
Speaker
I'm so wrong, but I'm just loving, I'm loving my head as I know. That's all good. I mean, that's, um that's, that's what we do. And I'm sure my kids aren't thinking about this. They're just going, yeah, cool story. like yeah ah Blue elephant guy. Neat. Although my my oldest son's ah reading Orwell's 1984 in school. He's in year 11. So he's, he's picking up on a few of those sort of themes and ah yeah, like the safety droids, the safety droids are looking like,
00:32:57
Speaker
literally cameras on legs, basically, with legs. And yeah, someone's watching, you know, everyone's being watched, to some degree. And, ah but yeah, there's definitely something on the surface. Obviously, there's talk of the currency aspect, and something to do with what fungible currency and they're doing some, it it could just be one big space, Bitcoin mining operation, who knows, talk of funding you know Palpatine's return, all these wild and crazy stories, but in the end it's probably just going to be something really simple. um yeah it's it's an analog just We just overthink things. we we
00:33:38
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yeah But the key is not being upset when we're wrong.

Star Wars Speculation and Acceptance

00:33:42
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that It's not if we're wrong. It's when when I am inevitably wrong every episode. I don't get mad about it. And that's what makes Star Wars enjoyable. Well, it's keep the speculation fun, basically. Yeah.
00:33:56
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hit ah don't Don't pin my hopes on it. like because Because I'm not a storyteller. I read stories and and watch stories. ah i I couldn't write this. I couldn't come up with any of this. I'm not that creative. right So you just got to let let the story wash over you. And if you want to speculate, you can. I can't even write a sentence that's not a run-on, like let alone write ah like an actual narrative.
00:34:20
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yeah yeah so trust Trust the creatives. you know Yeah, they're doing, they're doing, I think they're doing an alright job so far, so I have no, I have i have faith that they'll they'll get us to where we need to go. One thing that I'll add that I've heard a lot of people speculating about, they they're comparing KB, who is Far and away my favorite so far. I'm seeing a lot of comparisons of like like why she has the headgear and like comparing her to Lobot, which is kind of odd to me because I feel like Lobot
00:35:01
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I feel like he had like a lobotomy. And so he was kind of more droid than human. But I feel like KB in my mind, and I'm curious to hear somebody else's opinion on this type. It's kind of came to me today. I'm like, I guess I always saw her as kind of like a a Star Wars equivalent of like an accessibility, like an ADA a kind of like a kid with a disability. And like, this is just their disability device thing. They don't explicitly say what it is.
00:35:28
Speaker
It's just augmentation. It's not like Yeah, I'm not trying to like, oh, we're we're parents and we just hooked our kid up to a machine. It's like, no, there's there was a reason. And so then they needed to do it.
00:35:43
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Well, it makes sense in what the the parents said. I think they said that she has a life monitor and that they couldn't track the life monitor anymore. I don't know whether the visor or thing is the life monitor itself or might be something else that's monitoring. the But they also mentioned she had very urgent medical needs as well.
00:36:03
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And I don't know whether that is just something like, you know, um, a parental helicopter parent worrying about if the child's taking their tablets or whatever, but yeah something more serious in terms of her medical needs. So, um, I kind of saw like those, uh, like those dogs that you can get, like, if you have that, like, will like sit in front of you, if you, if it smells something, you're like, you're about to, you're about to pass out. Like, but it's instead of a dog, it's like the thing on your head. It's like,
00:36:31
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yeah Hello. like that it I kind of see it like that. People go, oh, she she's augmented for these reasons. like i I guess I saw it as the opposite. It's like it's more of a medical and medical thing, but a Star Wars take on it. so Yeah, yeah that that makes more sense. Sounds reasonable. What else we got going on? the Another fun thing I noticed about this episode, I love the fact that the Starship is just like Pigpen. Even if it's just sitting in space, it's just got that dust and dirt cloud just constantly around it. That makes zero sense, but I find it hilarious that it's that it's there.
00:37:07
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like I don't know if that has to do with the fact that it was buried in dirt, or if it's just like, oh, it's so old, but it's just a funny detail. Yeah. I mean, I don't wash my car that much, so my car looks like it's... Why would I wash it when it rains? That's what the rain's for. But I also don't sit in traffic with a cloud of dirt. True, true. That's just surrounding it when I take off.
00:37:35
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like floats behind it. Yeah. yeah where there are There are a lot of dead bodies on that and that ship. it's and that That is true. What's funny is like nobody's cleaned up. Like we're on episode, excuse me, episode three and like the bodies are still just there.
00:37:53
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Like he just took hold of the knife. And when like jumps on the bed and there's a big puff of like probably human ash, not ash, but human skin basically, dead skin. Yeah, it's like in, they're snoring, well ferns sleeping with, snoring with their mouth open. It's like, guys, what are we doing? You got a vacuum there or something? Like just eject it into space.
00:38:18
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be like yeah Okay, now this is this is this is us going too deep again. this is ah This is where they're like, yeah, this is this is not what kids think about No sure But okay, well what else is uh, what else is ah going on so God Do you think you you mentioned? that like you you feel like it's made correct me from you you don't think it's connected to the larger and
00:38:48
Speaker
Stories you feel it do you feel like the show is gonna end this season this series whatever whatever the end of these like eight later nine episodes are Do you feel like it's going to try to connect to everything else or do you feel like they're gonna let it be? It's thing if that makes sense yeah, I think It's hard to tell these days because there's no certainty about a second season. The creators did talk about they have some ideas. But typically what normally happens is that it'll be a nice tied off in a bow story, but there'll be little threads hanging that can be connected to other bits and pieces. So I think, yeah, I think it'll be a self contained story. I'm, I'm, I'm issue. I guess I just assume that the kids will get home again. Um,
00:39:37
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But then we have yeah what will happen with that planet? Will the planet be you know available or will the planet be ah known to the rest of the galaxy now? yeah we'll Will pirates come and try and take whatever treasure is there? Yeah, it said that's the interesting part. good Because I remember talking about it with Danny after the first two episodes, it's like it's hard to believe that like
00:40:04
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Somebody's gonna find a way there without it exposing everybody unless it becomes a jod finds a way there then he Like leaves and he's like, um I'll never tell anybody else about it and they're back Yeah seriously unless somebody comes out and gets them so it's it is very interesting to see how they can tie it up or Maybe they won't and that just all turns into chaos and it's like surprise season 2 LLL we do the whole time um But I hope, i as much as I love the story, the thing I i do fear of, very teeny tiny, like very tiny fear, it's like, you don't wanna to drag this out for those kid actors, like like a stranger things.

Child Actors and Time Jumps

00:40:41
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Next thing you know, they're 25 years old, playing 12 year olds. It's like like get it like, get it going, get it done, and like move the story along for their sake too. And so,
00:40:55
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There was ah another interview I listened to about that, and they did refer to Stranger Things about the aging of actors and kid child actors. And they said it that if they do a second season, it would have to be a big time jump because obviously like say they filmed it two years ago or or even more. And yeah, the kids ah kids grow. At that age, 12 to 14, I saw my son have a huge growth spurt. And you see it in Stranger Things, right?
00:41:23
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Yeah. The ages of 12 to 15, you literally can see, see kids grow. You can put that 11 year old haircut on that 18 year old and it does not, you're not tricking anybody like it. So at least the creators are acknowledging that and saying, well, if there is another one, it would have to be a time jump of, you know, three or four years, at least mace at the end of that story. So, so yeah. Yeah.
00:41:48
Speaker
Good deal, good deal. Any any other parting thoughts with the Skeleton crew? Anything you hope to see? Any anything we major things we missed? We didn't talk about that um planet.
00:42:03
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the
00:42:05
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With the owl. The moon. Sorry, the moon, yeah. I really liked the... what ah One of the things when they were landing on that moon, I love that theremin sound. Yeah. It's kind of like to traditional science fictiony kind of and sound that, you know, I think it's a lot in Star Trek. I mean but i don't know what Star Trek myself, but it's that sort of Star Trek theme sound. That was pretty wild. um And I love that backdrop of that planet. You know that you can see the shadow of the kids and Judd walking by, and I thought at that that looked amazing.
00:42:44
Speaker
yeah that that yeah Interesting, we got those that that map from Kim, so obviously she talked about those seven or eight seven or eight planets. um the jewels of The jewels of the Old Republic.
00:42:58
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Yeah. Um, that's interesting. Again, how did those other planets disappear or? Yeah, we don't know. Not a little mystery. Just keep feeding these little mysteries every episode. And, uh, it's like, how convenient that all but one were destroyed or just don't exist anymore. And now it's only the one. So, but that's, I think it, I think it's all very intriguing too. It's like, don't go down the rabbit hole. Don't go down. I would just let it be, let it be wait and see.
00:43:28
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He said it is it is it is exciting. I my favorite part too was it's clearly a moon like it's a moon There's the planet right there. It's a moon cuz it's dusty and it's like do they need spacesuits like no They're just gonna walk. It's like what yeah does it have an atmosphere? It's like doesn't matter doesn't matter just they're walking it's like yes more more of this this is my kind of like we don't need a soca in a in a weird head bubble suit doing outside things it's like no there's an atmosphere it's like it's a moon though it's like done who cares so they'll just check check the atmospheres they're flying in and we don't need to say that it's yes
00:44:05
Speaker
it's like yeah it's perfect it's like yes more more of this like i don't know what you would call that but it's like it's kind of it's a certain behavior i like when we like when i see people exhibited at work too it's like we're we're thoughtful and we're mindful about what we're doing and we're building, but there's a point where it's like, poop we could we could drill down and i do the other 80% of the iceberg, or we could just say, no, this is the decision, and it's a good one. It has an atmosphere. It's like, nice. I like the confidence. I like the assertive. Just, yes, go with it. That's my favorite.
00:44:42
Speaker
But no, the camp was really cool. Like as soon as I saw her kind of come down, I'm like, it just reminded me so much of Agra from Dark Crystal, like minus the he yeah the demeanor, but just the kind of, oh, i'm a i I plot the the space, the the astral maps and things like that. And there almost seemed to be a little bit of a ah mystical side of it too, not just literal,
00:45:09
Speaker
ah Astro astrogation kind of thing. It's like there's almost like a historical a mystical ah Even archaeological side of things side of it too of like me like ooh like I know this and then the mysticism side of things and that's why there's all the tomes and this that got like a very felt very Very much pulled from that ah Minus the the brash and stuff like an agra or whatever, but thought that was pretty neat Yeah, it's cool. um Lastly, I think they enjoyed the kids sort of shooting down those X-wings or attempting to shoot down, but it was all was all very playful. It was like ah like you're in Smuggler's Run or something. It wasn't, you know, nothing think too dangerous. And I like the fact that they addressed that, why didn't the X-wing pilot she shoot him down? Obviously because there's kids, you know, shoot down kids. um And they addressed those concerns straight away and then you move on, right? it's like
00:46:07
Speaker
Yeah, it wasn't 30 minutes. You don't get adults like us sort of say, what is of course he would have shoot should shoot down that ship. Why do they keep missing? you know it's like said It's a playful fight. It was part of a a conversation that was meaningful between Kim and the pilot, but they could just flip a line in there that doesn't need 30 minutes of exposition. They're like, why didn't you shoot it down? Because there's kids. Duh. Oh.
00:46:35
Speaker
Okay, yeah, I guess I guess he did know that that would make sense why? Next wing pilot from the New Republic didn't want to just blow up a random ship of kids because there was a bad guy on the ship I presume what a presumed a bad guy. I assume I don't think they've ever said why they want Crimson Jack if that's even his real name Like, they came for him, but no one's ever, has anybody ever said like why the new republic, why would they send X-wings to get somebody? Exactly, yeah. It's like, hey, the turbos in my house, next thing you know, two X-wings come flippin' across the galaxy. They're like, we're go we got him. And we're just start shootin' at a ship. It's like, well, wait a minute. It's like, so they must have a rapport somewhere with somebody.
00:47:27
Speaker
I mean, it could be another one of his, uh, service has got three different names, three different, uh, he might have a fourth. Uh, he might be a Jedi. Like this is the whole thing. He might have a Jedi name or he might, and the X-Men just want to track him down and, you know, take him somewhere else. I don't know. Um, who knows with him. He's a, that's a good reason for him to stay on at Atten when, if he ever makes it there, he can not have to face.
00:47:58
Speaker
consequences. He could be hidden and stay with the kids and be be the second dad they never knew. Yeah. Found dad. i don' yeah I don't really need him to be a Jedi at all. I just think he's a bit of a con artist that has potentially a few force powers that he doesn't really know how to use. And and he and he uses them when he needs to. and Yeah, but they delay I agree with that a hundred percent because it's like I think he tried to do something to that uh, I Don't know his his old crewmate who like intercepted him while you steal in the me back I think he was trying to use the force on him because I kept doing that like for sound like that whoa Sounds but I just wasn't affecting him and like does he not affected by the mind powers? It's like oh, I just think he's just not good at it. Yeah. No, he's just
00:48:53
Speaker
And he's like, oh, I guess we'll just have to get the captain. He's like, well, I guess that didn't work. So I guess I might have to kill him now. So yeah, I agree with you 100%. It's like he he practices a lot, but he's not really formally trained in anything besides maybe moving a key and turning off a light switch, which is I imagine first year.
00:49:17
Speaker
first year Jedi where im training. yeah um Lastly, ah like you know when he's going through his data pad or through those, obviously legends of Jedi stories from past or wherever. And I'm thinking, well, he doesn't know about the Empire, empire he doesn't know about the legend of Luke Skywalker or the adventures of Luke Skywalker.
00:49:39
Speaker
Are they gonna try it and, or do you think they should, or do you think they will try to introduce a Luke Skywalker cameo meeting up with Wynn eventually? And we're just freaking out. And we're just freaking out going, a real Jedi? And it's like, and you know the that that's where I think that might be going, because you know he obviously is a wannabe Jedi. I think he has, so I've kind of gone back and forth with this, i think I think it depends on,
00:50:07
Speaker
Some of it depends on how old the Old Republic kind of stuff is. is' like Because to me, it seems like he has this fascination, like the Jedi are this mystical group, kind of like the High Republic Jedi were. There's a million of them, and it's not an isolated individual. And so he sees them as kind of like these crazy medieval knights. And so like if you ever, I think if he were to learn about like Luke Skywalker, like modern Jedi, the Imperial thing, it's like, I think Like, you'd almost need, like, three episodes for him to just, like, process this and be like, wait, it's not like high fantasy Lord of the Rings. Like, yeah the Jedi's are these the jeter are the heroes. It's like, no, he's like a literal kid who, like, kind of killed his dad and and, like, did all these things and, like, not literally. It's like, he's real. And the Jedi are all dead. you know Yeah, they're all dead. um It's like, well, wait a minute, what? And they're not, they're not like,
00:51:02
Speaker
Fairy people like they're like fairy tale people it's they don't wear like long swishing robes and do those crazy things And so I could see them doing it I hope they don't in season one. I hope they I Hope that would be like an expanded upon thing like they learn and they figure out like the importance of getting home and and all that and then like let that be a like the season three of Mando, kind of like, let stuff get weird later. um When, because i there's a party that's like, okay, the reason I'm saying like season three is like, because I can't figure out like when they get the end of the season, hypothetically, they get home.
00:51:41
Speaker
Jod is like, I can't stay here, see ya. KB's like, cool, I like my my family, I'm going home. Neil's like, I got it great, going home. Fern's like, I'm gonna go tell my mom what's for her, and I'm staying here. But like Wim, Wim's like, I don't really like my dad.
00:51:57
Speaker
Like, could Wim just be like, I'm going with you? Like, that would be and that would be wild. um Where was it going I going? Oh, so he could go off and be on adventures and maybe meet Luke Skywalker, or meet all his people and do all this crazy stuff, which would be weird, but also interesting. like i just I keep getting into this weird loop of like, where are people going to end up? But I'll have to say, I don't know. That'd be cool at some point. I hope not season one.
00:52:23
Speaker
You'd like to hope that, um, women, Mr. Wendell, is it? Um, his dad would sort of have some sort of arc where, you know, his dad sort of apologizes for not showing the attention and blah, blah, blah. Like there's gotta be something there. I don't know the the the opening scene had him sort of.
00:52:42
Speaker
He didn't say anything during the opening, so did he, that Win's dad. He was just looking off into the distance.

Character Speculation in Skeleton Crew

00:52:48
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Yeah. And that's that's i think that's what's interesting. it's like i've heard I've seen multiple people interpret that differently. like i From the beginning, I've had that kind of inkling of, Wim's dad doesn't do what he says he does, because I just had that. like It would suck if it was my thing of, like oh, he knows more than he thinks. I'd like him to be innocent, just like the other parents, and really just want Wim back. and they have that arc of like, I'm sorry, I wasn't there for you, yada, yada, yada. But it's like, I can't help but be stuck in that place of like, he's, he's um in more in the know than he thinks, than other people think he is. And it's like, but and that's why he's just so like, lost. It's like, they're like, we need to do this, we need to get the supervisor, we need to get yada, yada, yada going and when dad just like,
00:53:35
Speaker
You're all barking up the wrong, you're the wrong tree. Maybe thinking we're practical.
00:53:44
Speaker
Yeah. yeah um So yeah, skeleton crew. Sounds like we're getting good good reviews, looking forward to the next couple episodes. Interestingly enough, they're not taking next week off, even though it's gonna be holiday week, and so it'll be interesting to get some- Yeah, we we get- Christmas is on a Wednesday over here. Well, obviously Wednesday for you. Our episodes get released on a Wednesday, and which is your Tuesday night. And yeah, so I'll be watching 1 p.m. on Christmas Day with the the family at home. Nice. That'd be good times. Yeah. It's like stuff stop, stop cringling the wrapping paper. Like I'm trying to hear.
00:54:29
Speaker
Yeah, we've we've already got got got the family Christmas sorted, so we we don't do anything else on Christmas days i Day, so stay home. Stay home. No, you played accordingly. You're already all youre already all set. yeah but nice Nice. That'll be they'll be fun. But anyways, moving on.
00:54:45
Speaker
um Oh, I forgot about my week. My week's pretty simple. I've been watching something crew. How was your week? I forgot to ask. My week's been okay. We started getting snow. That's fine. You know, whatever. It's a little bit different than your weather you're having over there. I've been making a lot. I've started making some candy that's been fun for the holidays, experimenting with some new stuff. So that's exciting. And I've been playing a new game to pull me, another thing to pull me away from,
00:55:17
Speaker
Outlaws I've been playing the new Indiana Jones game the and the Indiana Jones in the great circle. I didn't that's what it's called ye um And it's hungry. I'm really enjoying it it is And I mean it's it is what it you think it is i like the beginning of it is you're you kind of doing Replaying like scenes from the movies and then it kind of goes into its own original thing and I i like it because it is more Like there's action, but it is more kind of puzzle based and like kind of navigating around and it's not fully platform. um i'm I don't know. I'm just really, I'm really enjoying it. Like the world, the world building, the scenery. um It's really exciting. I'm not terribly far in it, um but what I've seen so far, it's looks really, really good. And we'll see what happens. I'm not sure if it ties into anything, but we'll find out.
00:56:13
Speaker
Yeah, I've heard some good things. Hopefully, um it's an Xbox thing, isn't it? Or PC first, is it? I am playing it on Xbox at the moment, but I believe it is on Xbox and PC. Yes. Yeah, hopefully Andy gets to play that one while he's ah recovering or going through that. Just wheel the whole setup into wherever he's at and, you know, just... I thought you said he had a Steam Deck. Maybe a Steam Deck, maybe? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, maybe he could play it on there.
00:56:41
Speaker
I'm sure he's got some codes. He's probably, maybe he's playing outlaws and trying to get that 100%. That's probably what he's doing. Yeah, I don't think we get that. I've got PS5, so we don't get that till much later. I think halfway through next year. It's an exclusive, I think. Gotcha, gotcha.
00:57:03
Speaker
Nice, but yeah, and so maybe by then you'll know if it's good or not like early impressions for me good full impressions I don't know TB will find out it could just go off. It could go terribly. Who knows? We'll find out ah But other than that man, I don't have a whole lot else going on this week. I don't believe Yeah, that's that's pretty much it just prepping for the holidays Really hoping we had a huge earthquake. We had a bigger not huge. We had a big earthquake.
00:57:30
Speaker
yeah The other day, that was kind of crazy. We don't really get those up in the mountains very often. Shook the whole house. That was fun. Yeah, and that... Any damage? I think... Any damage to anything full of shelves? No. Some cereal boxes, fell off some shelving. um cat The cats were like not like not a fan. What in the hell is going on? and Had a bear visitor the other day.
00:57:56
Speaker
Talked to someone he didn't know he was not a fan of me asking him talking to him interviewing him that' thing That's wild you just get bears hanging out in your backyard over here, that's wild dad just I mean, yeah. It'd be one thing if there were like grizzly bears. like If we had grizzly but i think we had grizzly bears, I wouldn't live here. like i'm not like I love yours all revveant with like leonardo the capria like we don't We don't have those bears. Those yeah those bears scare me to death, not those. We just have little black bears that are, like I talk to them from my deck and they puff and puff and run away.
00:58:36
Speaker
um If I'm not such a mom and I'm close to their baby, then that's the different story. But yeah, it is it is kind of weird at times. And it's like I'm like a little kid every time I see him like I want to take a picture of that, even though I have a phone full of them. But yeah, they're they're dumb. But it's fun. Until they get in your trash can. they drag You know what's the most is stressful thing in the world? When they get in your trash can and you have to try to chase a bear down that's dragging a trash bag with your trash in it,
00:59:06
Speaker
And like I don't want my my

Humorous Anecdotes from Bear Territory

00:59:09
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trash. like If it tears up my trash bag in my prop on my property, that's one thing. But I don't want to pick up my trash from somebody else's property. And especially if it's scattered everywhere as well. Yeah. It's like, oh my gosh, what what what is in that trash bag? like I don't even know. It could be anything. Hard talent.
00:59:27
Speaker
like You never know. It's like, oh, God, come back here. Come back with that. That's what happens if we first moved in and we have bare, bare bins and stuff now. But still lives in your head like, what if they got it? What if they got it and they just drug our trash all around the neighborhood and everybody could look and go out there and pick through and go, oh, that's Sean's trash. What an idiot. No, my gosh. It's the things we worry about. But anyways.
00:59:53
Speaker
Let's talk about celebration. The road to celebration, part three. ah are like i I struggled with this when we first started. I told you, I'm like, crap, I gotta remember like Andy's usually the one who's like, wheeling and dealing with this part. I'm like, crap, I gotta to remember what his questions even are. It's like, I'm pretty sure one of them is, are you going to celebration Japan? Well, so we'll start there. That seems like an easy one.
01:00:19
Speaker
start at the most current celebration. yeah um Of course, yeah i I love celebration. I have had a great time at celebration and I feel like I'm going to go to celebration every day celebration there is until I die? I don't know. I just thought it's really ah met a lot of great friends, made a lot of great friends including yourself over the years. But yes, I am going to Japan. I booked my flights. I got the tickets. Obviously, we booked the hotel. I think the same hotel that you shared, we booked. I booked.
01:00:55
Speaker
and um Yeah, even though ah some of the listeners may know I have just got back from Japan in October with my family trip to Japan. So we did Tokyo and Osaka and Disney parks and Universal Studios and all that good stuff. So I am up to date. I know how to navigate ah Tokyo, the craziness of Tokyo. And Sean, you've been there recently, like last year, was it? Last thing last October. Yeah, I was but there about a year ago.
01:01:26
Speaker
Yes, I love that country. I would not miss a celebration in Japan for the world. So I am coming solo and i a couple of, well, ah one of my good friends from I would say, uh, school since I was about six or seven years old is coming along with his family. Um, a few of his other friends and yeah, he, his name's Clint. Um, so obviously I've got, I had a group of star Wars friends since, you know, early days of school and they're sort of three or four friends. Just the only ones that like star Wars, but we kept to ourselves and it was all fun times. And, um,
01:02:11
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My friend Clint actually asked if I wanted to go to Celebration way back in 2005, I think? I think it might have been Celebration 3. Was it Indianapolis? we're and that Revenge of the Sith era?

Star Wars Celebration Experiences

01:02:27
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That's actually the first one I ever went to.
01:02:30
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yeah Right. Right. Right. So yeah, this was, yeah, obviously a while ago and, you know, venge of the Sith era, but so he, he went, uh, but during that time I was like, well, I have literally just bought a house. I think the year before, possibly at a mortgage at a very, uh,
01:02:55
Speaker
busy job and and no time and I was like, hi i can't I can't justify going to celebration. I just can't, right? And so he went and he told me all about it, had ah had a great time. He did talk about the queues and the queues for the shop and the merch. So all all that kind of good stuff. He brought me back a art piece. I think it was a I think it was an Amidala, Queen Amidala graffiti photo framed. So kind of cool. He talked about all the art pieces you could find there and I was kind of intrigued, but you know.
01:03:29
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went on with my life. yeah had ah and I first kid the neat year after 2007. So yeah, life gets in the way right of Star Wars. and and It was always there with me, but in the back of my mind I was like, really? I should have just gone to that celebration. good yeah yeah So yeah, life moves on. and It wasn't until sort of the Force Awakens, the Rogue One era, I think. Time is a bit of a blur. Yeah, I started listening to all the podcasts that you and I had probably both commonly listened to like Steel Wars and the bad motivators, R.I.P. Get a bite. Those guys hate each other, don't they? Yeah, I heard that.
01:04:14
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um yeah Sort of sit with Blue Harvest and yeah just started sort of connecting with people. and it was It was a good time just to sort of share.
01:04:25
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um Just share that excitement of Force Awakens and and that sort of thing. I used to write in to and emails to those guys and yeah just I felt part of something again, you know? Yeah, like a sense of community. ah yeah And I didn't know why I needed it because like cheing during all those years and and and even before, yeah during the dark times or anything, anything I always kept my Star Wars to just my friends and my family. I was like, I don't need to talk to anyone else about Star Wars. It's like, ah why do I care what anyone else takes? Like, yeah, wake up my friends. Um, but yeah, that was, it was a good time. and And I think it's a similar story to Catherine, sort of met Catherine at one of Steel Wars shows in Sydney. I think it was at Chippendale Hotel, the Chippo, ah hello around the time of Rogue One. So I met her there and then decided to go down to Steel's live show in Melbourne, Midnight Screening of Last Jedi. and Nice.
01:05:30
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And that was ah that's kind of where it all started. i was like the the The spark of celebration started where I thought, maybe I'll go to celebration. I met Josh and Andy and Matt Frosh down there.
01:05:46
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It was a wild time. like you know you do Watching a midnight session, you get out at two or three. Next door, you go to an Irish pub and then you listen to Steele and his friends lie on stage to talk about what we just saw. And what we just saw in The Last Jedi was like, you know,
01:06:05
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the The number one thing out of that movie was, what the hell did we just see? Oh, I couldn't imagine. I yeah i couldn't imagine all even trying to talk about that the second you get out of there. Be like, I need a minute. That'd be wild.
01:06:19
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And then, yeah, literally was there for in Melbourne for like probably 12 hours total and just flew back in the morning and went back to work since it's 30 a.m. flight and then straight back to work. um So that was a really like intense time of the Star Wars. And yeah we I think we sort of between us, most of those guys are in Melbourne and we planted the seed of celebration and went to Chicago.
01:06:46
Speaker
yeah well chicago So Chicago was your first one? that Yes, that's my first one. So that that's kind of like the origin story of Celebration for me. omp But scott Chicago was a wild time. Now, my memory of meeting you is blurry because I'm fairly sure I met you first at Steel's live show. Probably. Yeah.
01:07:07
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and and And I remember you had a very loud Hawaiian shirt or Hawaiian style. That's your thing. like That was my memory of you. like Yeah, that's probably yeah probably correct. When I say loud, like i'd say it's a compliment. like No, no, no. Yeah, that that was during my time when I like i think all of my shirts were like button-ups that had, it was probably like a watermelon, like watermelons or Star Wars ships or something. Ridiculous.
01:07:34
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like i had the The whole point was I had i'd been promoted like as a manager at my job. And right i I come from consulting where like I used to do shirts and ties. And I'm like, when I moved out to California, I'm like, I'm never wearing shirts and ties ever again. And so they're like, got promoted as a manager. I'm just going to wear ha white like these these stupid shirts every day. And so then it just became like my wardrobe. And then it just became a thing.
01:07:57
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And so that, yeah, that is, yep, you definitely met me if you remember the ridiculous shirts that I was probably wearing at that show. sure yeah But it's crazy because like you look back at that time and I've i've seen photos where you're in the background all the time of the photo that we're in. And like Sean's sort of hovering around sort of talking to a few people and what's what's your memory of that live show? Was that the brewery? I forget the brewery name. ah Honestly, I couldn't tell you what that place was. like And that's no shade against whatever that place was. I it just remember it being like a long ah very long room. It was upstairs, and it's like, is it was it a bar? Was it just an empty place? Was it an art gallery that we just rented out?
01:08:41
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um I don't know. but by My memory of that was exactly what you described, but with my own personal feelings of awkwardness the entire time that I feel like I've described a million times ah that I wish I would never have had that were completely unjustified.
01:08:59
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ah And especially now that more time has gone by and I know more people that were there. Like I sat next to Jess Schroeder and then I pretty sure next to her was Catherine and everybody. Like I know everybody. I was in that same row. I was sitting in that same row. Yeah. That's like, I'm pretty sure I was sitting by everybody.
01:09:17
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that I now know. And it was funny, it was like, oh, they'll post a picture. It's like, yeah, I think I posted a picture. And Jess was like, that's my sweater that's next to you. Oh my god, yeah. I was sitting there. That was me. The whole thing was very weird. Chicago was the first one where I feel like I broke out of my shell of like, there was like the podcasting inner circles where I was like, inner circle, these are all like my terms in my felt design, not like literal. I'm like, oh, those are like, those are the podcasters, those are the people who know each other and like, I don't wanna be the weirdo, I'm just a listener. But that like, I went to Orlando and was on the outside, but then Chicago was when I first was like, all right, I'm gonna be a big boy, put my big boy pants on and I'm gonna go like, go check it out. And then,
01:10:08
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Yeah, it was like i I went there, talked to people, and I was like, oh, I know you, I know those people, the yada, yada, yada. And it's just funny looking back on it now. It's like, yeah, I knew knew of a lot of people then. And i've been a i've I've been looming around in the shadows for many, many years. ah But just that whole like imposter syndrome, like I don't want to come across as weird even though we're at the same thing and Everybody's like looking at you telling you be like just say hi We're not whatever whatever you're like. Yeah, they're talking to everybody else not me They're talking. They're they're they definitely don't want you to do that like but then Over time you realize like no, I should have just not wasted all that time But it's so fun. Like I still met people people were always friendly but it's like you get out of what you put into it and if I was the one being like
01:11:02
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Okay, I think I've overstayed my welcome. I'm gonna go leave now, go do my thing. ah That was on me, not on anybody else. yeah um But no, i had I had a great time. that was That was fun. Chicago, I think is one of the ones where, I know it's big with our group, like like our group of close friends, because that's that's one of the ones where I feel like a lot of people were there. But even outside of that, I feel like Chicago to me was probably one of the though I don't want to say the wildest. like well I just say the word wild. like That was probably one of the most fun celebrations. like That in London, London I think for different reasons because I think because of our group of friends. But Chicago was just so...
01:11:41
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Different than all of the others like if they bring it back to the US. They're like, oh it should be an Anaheim or Florida I'm like Orlando could never happen again, and I'd be very happy. I hate that actually when you say ah ah When I said I was good at every celebration. I really don't really want to go to Florida or yeah, it's I can't imagine what a celebration would be like yeah I like ah Talking about Chicago, I like being in a city so that you can do things in the city. like london That's why London was great yeah because you can explore London. But if you go to Florida, it's like you're just going there for Disney. I don't see anything else around it.
01:12:23
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When it's not walkable, there's not there's not good like transport to things. That's what I liked about Chicago. That's what I liked about London was that you could be you could get on transport and go pretty much everywhere. like You didn't need to rent a car. You didn't need to a Uber everywhere. like Orlando, the I do not like the convention center. I do not like its location. it's Disney's close, but not that close. It's not Anaheim.
01:12:50
Speaker
where you could like technically you could walk if you wanted to. But yeah, Chicago, Chicago is I think probably one of my favorites besides London, which I think was just, you right it was never it was kind of crazy. There was like that. Do you have, I think you went to that haunted hotel and pa did you go to that one?
01:13:10
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ah the I believe I did. that That whole week was a... That there was a blur. That was a blur. Because I'm from Indiana, and so i had like my parents came up and visited. I have family in Chicago. like it was Like, it was wild. That's how I knew met Rick Villanueva because, like, he gave me tickets to, like, get my parents in celebration. Like, and they're like, what the hell is this? And it's like, this is what I come to. And they're like, what in the world? going yeah like ah It's yeah as that whole week was a blur. So I think I did, but I don't where i remember fully.
01:13:47
Speaker
So you mentioned about talking to people, like Chicago was, um it was interesting, there was a whole group of people in this house, ah you might refer to it as Echo Base, you know, a lot of people there. that was That was wild and it's other stories for other people to tell. um So we us Australians visited Echo Base occasionally and we went back to our D&D.
01:14:08
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But what's interesting is ah it's kind of this origin story of, of um I guess, the scruffies in a way, because the scruffy guys were staying in the same house as Echo a Base, but above Echo Base. I don't know if you knew this. No, I didn't know that. This was before a time where, before Chris Paul was on scruffies. So that's how Chris met. And again, that's the story for them. You could get them on the show.
01:14:31
Speaker
But that's how Chris and Gev met and realized they live very close to each other. So that started the whole Scruffy's thing. so um That was wild. um Good friends, Scruffy's, everyone I met there is yeah friends to this day, I would say. Good times.
01:14:55
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. yep So you went to Chicago. Did you have you been to? And you obviously you were at London. I remember you there. I have where I get them all. I did go to Anaheim. You did go to Anaheim. Yeah. The Anaheim was the other one that was another big one.
01:15:13
Speaker
What did you think? That was this that weird sort of mid-COVID sort of one way you had In terms of the convention itself, I didn't enjoy the convention itself as much as what happened outside the convention. so there's There's a theme here, right? Most of what I'm talking about is the people I met and the friends I've met. it's It's not so much about the convention itself. I would say for Anaheim, my most favorite panel was the creatures of the Return of the Jedi. I don't know if you saw that one with Blast Points guys. Tom Spina and um Kirk Thatcher, who was one of the puppeteers or puppet makers on Return of the Jedi.
01:15:57
Speaker
That was a very cool um thing. But apart from that, most of my memories of that are around um like one of my favorite things of it was watching Kev. at their Airbnb early morning, watching forests get promoted to the Premier League. That was absolutely, probably one of my most favorite things. etc Watching Kev watch football is the best. That's awesome. ah that That's, and again, the origin story of Kev and Emily at that yeah celebration. It'd be interesting to get them on to talk about their experience with celebration. yeah That's their story to tell, but I like i really and i've really and enjoyed seeing that relationship flourish, and they're getting married in next year, in May. Yeah, that's crazy. yeah It's crazy to think that some of these, just something like Star Wars, or like it's not directly related to Star Wars, but like tingish it's like the things that we do go to this and this, is like and it's bringing bringing people together like that. and Yeah.
01:17:06
Speaker
other memories of that one. I went to a few breweries with Eddie, Eddie B and Mark and Strutt, I think. So a lot of good breweries around Anaheim obviously still show and another unrelated thing. And I don't know if I, I don't know if I told you this one. You may have seen me drunk one afternoon at celebration. I I follow Liverpool FC, they were in the Champions League Final, so this is like a big deal, all of Europe Champions League Final in Paris. And I think it was 8am in the morning on 9am start, and I skipped Celebration that morning. I got an Uber to a bar in, somewhere in Anaheim, called Rock and Brews. I remember seeing the messages about this, yes, I remember this now. Called the Rock and Brews, and I think it was owned by
01:18:00
Speaker
some of the kiss guys. maybe Anyway, a bar which was the official Liverpool supporter club of Anaheim. And so I got there really early, um started drinking early with my newfound Liverpool buddies at the bar. And the game was delayed, so we drunk more. The game was delayed by now ah in Paris due to crowd issues.
01:18:26
Speaker
And we lost. So I was there drowning my sorrows till about, you know, 1 p.m. Head back to the convention and it was all a blur for me because I was, I was kind of sad that we lost heading back to Star Wars. I didn't know what was going on. I was bumping into people and I was, I was pretty drunk. Um, so yeah, that was interesting. Interesting time that afternoon, not not drunk to the point of being dysfunctional, but like,
01:18:52
Speaker
yeah yeah Yeah, sometimes if you stop drinking, you're sort of getting a mid hangover. And you're like, yeah well, you got to get the mid day headache. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, oh, like that's what I had. And then we had still show that night. So um I think I bumped into it still show as well. And I was probably a bit. Oh, I was by the time that show was over, I was I was done. Yeah, I was I was good. And I like to I like to and partake there. And then I then I'm also I'm also the moron who's like,
01:19:21
Speaker
I live in California. this is I can walk back to my hotel not realizing that it's like a two mile ah to my like drive to Steel Show. And everybody else is like, oh, we're doing this. it's like um I've still got like 45 minutes left on my walk back. like I got distracted and I've made made friends. and yeah So I know that life. That was a good time. Steel Show was fun. That was the one where the crazy Chris Hall poster came out.
01:19:48
Speaker
like the the ah ah the the fan fiction. The erotic fan fiction, yeah, the Darth Maul and Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan, yeah. I've got that signed poster I need to frame it, Emily and Chris. I think we all have that same thing. as I have that, I gotta frame it.
01:20:05
Speaker
And then I gotta find somewhere to hang it and I don't know how that's gonna go over it's not I definitely still have it though. It's signed by ah Yeah, it's fun people who've never do not know what we're talking about. Yeah, their imaginations could not even begin to fathom The what that yeah what that poster looks like And it's finished. You should share it again. Just as a reminder of celebration celebrations past the world, the world's a different place. And it's like, man, that we were, it we it really was a fever dream at that in Anaheim. Yeah, that it was a fever dream. I would call that the fever dreams of, because I i also have COVID. I don't know if you did too, but I probably
01:20:52
Speaker
I landed and I think it was the scruffy guys, Chris and Kev said, yeah, we've got tested positive. So I landed after that ah at home and told my wife that I should get tested before I come in the house. And so I tested myself straight away positive. and I didn't feel but bad or anything. I was really just exhausted, tired from the long haul flight home and then just I didn't really get impacted by COVID, but I was covered positive. So yeah after getting home for a week away in Anaheim, my family had made me sleep in my study under the house on a sofa bed for a week. And I wasn't allowed in the house for a week until I tested negative. It really was a fever dream of a celebration, like intense, intense.
01:21:47
Speaker
Yeah, it's like it doesn't feel like it like but when like the further a celebration gets in I start to think back on it and I start to tell the story like that not like tell the story is like it's a Vegas trip or something ah like you just reminisce with it. It's like it does make it sound like it's this Yeah, this thing. It's not I wouldn't say it's wild in terms of year like a Vegas trip or anything. It's just Intense, it's intense that like again, I'm the type of person that doesn't I always say I'll sleep when I'm dead. So if there's somebody to go or do people to meet, I will go to a bar or whatever. I'll have an intense time while I'm away and I can just sleep later. That's fine. So it's like sleep deprivation. It's sensory overload with the actual like celebration floor, looking at a whole lot of things.
01:22:40
Speaker
number of people and crowds and it is just, it's just intense that ultimately. Being strategic too of like when you're going to eat, what you're wearing, it's like, I don't want to have to go back and do this. It's like, we're going to do this later and like getting up early and yada, yada, yada. You get out of what you put into it and I don't want to, and also like having a place that you're staying, like be strategic. That's a big one for me anymore. It's like, I don't want to be 45 minute Uber yeah away with, if everybody's hanging out and doing something. but Yeah.
01:23:11
Speaker
and Like I said, London was a great time as well, again, yeah meeting up with um Andy. so I don't know what your first... I think you've told told your first meeting of Andy. I think think I met Andy in the beer hall near the beer machines, vending machines. The beer vending machines? Yeah. i' Because obviously I didn't know what he looked like, and I knew of Andy through Twitter, and I think we were following each other, but like you know it's one of those of those things. And I went up and introduced myself, and he goes, yeah, Turbo, I know who you are. I'm like, really? that's and then And then I realized it was Andy. But yeah, he had a good friendship.
01:23:50
Speaker
and Can't say enough good things about Andy like true gentleman great guy very generous Just yeah, so shout out to Andy. We love you He's a good dude. He's a good dude. He didn't spend years messing around being nervous. He just came straight in. Straight in, yeah. He did ask me to meet him at a hotel bar in a foreign country, even though we never had no idea what each other looked like. So that part is weird looking back on, but everything turned out all right. So I think no regrets. And he's a good dude. Didn't we also meet at the
01:24:33
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the beer garden at Hackney. That was, so I'd met him 30 minutes. up I'd met him for the first time 30 minutes before that. He met me at my hotel in the bar to go to Hackney. See, maybe I'm getting mixed up. That's where I met Andy. i'm um'm yeah that's why That's definitely where I met Andy, because I remember drinking Guinness with him. Yep.
01:24:53
Speaker
ye and then and I think after a couple Guinnesses, I'm like, hey, by the way, I have no idea where I am. king Somebody's getting me home, right? like Because I am not close to the convention center anymore. I was. I was close. I knew where to go. Now I do not. I am very far. And they're like, yes, we will get we will make sure that you get home. It's like, well, this is perfect. you I will call you a friend forever. And that was fantastic. And and now here we are.
01:25:22
Speaker
Yeah, London was a good time. So I'm sure we've told a lot of stories about that one because it's the most recent. ah Again, the the convention itself was a bit of a blur. Again, my favorite parts are the people I've meet and sharing good times. um I mean, I even took a whole morning off celebration to go record shopping with um Chris Kevin Emily in London. So he went record shopping at our record hall, vinyl.
01:25:50
Speaker
um Yeah, so celebration, the the convention itself is almost like an afterthought. It's the it's the reason it brings everybody together, but that's not like the most the most fun. And speaking of that, is there anything in Japan that you're looking forward to the most with that celebration? Like, is there anything like, oh, Japan celebration, I'm really looking forward to XYZ? Obviously, the Visions panel. So I'm keen to see that, because it's really into the first season of that.
01:26:21
Speaker
um Just in general, Japanese artwork, artists, interpretations of Star Wars, Japanese bootleg toys, as it becomes. And that's a rabbit hole. I know Chris and Kev talk about it as well, but it is a rabbit hole.

Japanese Star Wars Influence

01:26:41
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I'm hoping to meet up with this, I think I told you guys about the Star Wars theme bar I went to in Osaka.
01:26:48
Speaker
a bootleg Star Wars toy bar in Osaka, so everything the the owner made was like either made by himself, 3D printers, or but he has a whole range of bootleg toys, he gave me a little Chewy. And I asked him if he's going to Celebration, he said yes, absolutely, so I don't know if he'll have a I placed selfings there, but, you know, these sort of things I'm looking forward to most, just the uniqueness of Japan and um the Japanese artwork and just, yeah, that that's that's what I'm looking forward to.
01:27:21
Speaker
Same. i i think I think mine's exactly the same. Like the biggest ones aren't work. Bootleg toys. ah All the same stuff. All the stuff that would be really expensive over here. like Especially like the model and the model stuff. Like all the modeling companies that aren't international. at all i I'm hoping I don't spend a ton of money over there, but we'll see. I think it's going to be really bad if everybody's going to be like, hey, not nobody, i'm not discourd I'm not discouraging people from doing this, just so everybody knows. But I know everybody's going to be like, hey, can you grab me this thing and that thing while you're there? Be like, I should have brought more suitcases. I just got to figure out how to get all this crap back. Yeah, that it that is the one factor where you have to be very selective about what you bring back.
01:28:05
Speaker
I think Catherine mentioned it last time. Us Australians when we first went to Chicago, we were just amazed at all the black series figures. and figures like We brought up big time. like I had an extra whole suitcase. and Because it's stuff like that is ah extremely expensive over in Australia. And even with the exchange rate, US exchange rate is still much, much cheaper to buy there. But yeah, and then subsequent celebrations, I didn't really buy much. I bought sort of unique things here and there, but on just trinkets and bits and bobs.
01:28:39
Speaker
yeah I just gotta stop buying big stuff like it's it's the skateboard decks that kill me It's like yeah, especially when I don't bring a bag that it can fit them and it's like well I guess this is a carry-on But I do you like all the little weird trinkets like I'm I think I'm over I'm done buying shirts and like the clothing and stuff like that like I'm more into the the Star Wars celebration, nesting like the Ewok nesting dolls. I got those in London and it's like, those have not been put away since they came out. like yeah more More stuff like that or or the art. I think the art works really good too because I can sneak that into the house if it fits a theme and it's not too Star Wars-y then.
01:29:18
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yeah Yeah, and apart from that, ah I guess we're just assuming at this stage that Andor Premiere will be there. and Diego Luna's been announced officially. They'd be crazy not to have a preview of the first one first couple of episodes. Yeah, I think especially since they bumped up Skeleton Crew, I think They'll do something. I mean, I think they'll need to bump it. Like I've said it before, it's like, I think they'll need to bump it up. They won't have it on the last day of celebration, like after closing ceremonies or anything like that. Like that'd be weird. Yeah. Like, so they need to bump it up two days, but, or at least just a relationship for everybody. Like let us, let everybody watch it, but then we get to watch it in like a room.
01:30:01
Speaker
That'd be neat. In Japanese or whatever, I don't know. Yeah, whatever it is. And we are all us friends are going to be ah emotional ah support for Catherine. So we're all going to be here for Catherine. So she gets a photo. How does that work? the she is She gets a photo, does she just pay for the photo, and then she gets to be like, can we all walk through with her as like emotional support? or i think I think we have to try. We to try. have to try Like, I don't know how the photos work. You pay per person, you pay for like, as a group of 10. I don't do photos. though You're asking the wrong person. The thing about photos and signatures, I ah ah just don't want another queue to stand in. I know there's time allocations, but you just spend the whole time. And yeah that time could be well well spent, you know, having a beer from the vending machine with your friends, you know, if it's like, I don't want to queue anything any more than I have to. so
01:30:58
Speaker
the beer vending machines were the greatest invention. yeah like i I hope that Japan has it. They won't probably, but that was genius. Oh, Japan big are being a vending machines. so That is true. That press that's true.
01:31:15
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Like, think about, I would love to know the number of vending machines in Japan. Like, there must be a cur per capita vending machine statistics, but they are, yes you know. They're everywhere. Just everywhere. its I don't, and I wanted to build them. That's what I always fascinated me, because I never seen b see them being filled. Like, you can go and you see the ones that are like, oh, you can get cold tea or hot tea. You get hot drinks out of them. And it's like, who is filling this?
01:31:42
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where yeah I've never seen him getting refilled, but people are always buying stuff, but I don't know. It's a fascinating country. that Yeah. And I think, I think with Japan, we, as you know, you're the sort of geography where we're at. I know when technically in Tokyo, great at Tokyo, but it's not really Tokyo. So I think we'll be spending a lot of time locally around celebration and maybe a day, year or there either side, but I'm only going for a total of Six days, I think. So short a shorter trip for me, just sticking to Tokyo. And I don't think I'll do Disney again, because having recently done it in October. It's going be a bit chaotic, too, I'm sure, with everybody. Unless they're ah yeah there isn't going to be, I don't think there will be a Disney night, Star Wars Disney night, because the park closes at 9, I think.
01:32:39
Speaker
yeah as Anaheim's Midnight, isn't it? Yeah, and especially with Disney not owning those parks, I don't think they're willing to do as much of the the bonus stuff for conventions and whatever ah to make it work. But it is interesting the hotel blocks are all around the Disney area.
01:33:02
Speaker
It is interesting. Word on the street, I've seen i seen, I don't really follow this stuff much, but I have seen rumors recently that more blocks closer to the hotel are supposed to be opening soon, which I won't get on my soapbox about how weird this whole hotel thing has been. Yeah. Cause I still don't think definitely it's anything close to the hotel. Like we all, we all have like an understanding, world we all believe, we all have rooms and like,
01:33:33
Speaker
But it's like it just feels weird. like i like i have a I have reservations. like They exist. Well, we have reservations, but I don't think they took, for that hotel, they didn't take a credit card. Yeah, they have they do not have any of my money. It's just an email.
01:33:46
Speaker
yeah Yeah, I have a confirmation number and I have lots of confirmation numbers. And so it's like, I wish they would take some money from me. So I would feel better, but I don't think, I don't think they will. I think it's just kind of how it works, but yeah, that it's all, it's all very weird, but I'm excited. Nonetheless, it'll all work out.
01:34:06
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um yeah any any Any closing thoughts on celebration, Japan, ah words of wisdom, do's, don'ts, predictions?

Advice for Celebration Attendees

01:34:19
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I know we always talk about it, but like the second stage you were in where you weren't sure if you should talk to people and you're in your own head, and number one thing is I know people ah some people are fight it hard to talk to new people. But if you see me, uh, if anyone sees me or I would just say, just go and talk to people. I know it sounds easy, but, um, we're all in this Star Wars thing together. We have a common thing, uh, that we love and you'll be surprised and you'll meet a lot of great friends over over time. sir yeah but's So it's a friend you make along the way. It's always, it's always what it is.
01:35:01
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At the end of the day, we can always talk Star Wars, you know? Like, you run out of stuff to talk about, you can always just talk about Star Wars. I don't carry half of us. At least a couple days. So, gold. I do find that when I'm there, we don't really talk Star Wars. No, not really at all. No. Because you get to know people more, and about what they like.
01:35:30
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yeah and from like Like meeting meeting Chris and Kev and talking about records and bands that they see. like They're like kindred spirits across the other side of the world. like We like the same music. you know We collect records and go to gigs all the time. and like we i don't I really don't think I ever talked to Chris or Kev or many of my friends about Star Wars. Yeah. Well, that's funny. It's like, even from like this sort of podcast here where we're, you know, recapping things, but just yeah you recap that but like, we're not standing in lines just talking. What's your favorite Star Wars ship? What's your favorite? What's your favorite character? We're not doing, we're not doing the quiz. It's mostly.
01:36:12
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what What did you do? I don't know. What did you have for dinner? Honestly, I don't know what we talked about at the time, but I can tell you it's not Star Wars most of the time. less so yeah It's trying to understand why Andy's ordering cabs from the hotel lobbies, but you could just... That is funny. Yeah. no That was that a good time.
01:36:33
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But I do know, well, I can't believe we've been talking for an hour and 40. I'd want to, I want to respect your time a little bit. It's a little bit, I mean, we've already gotten this one. Yeah. Tell the people where they can find you, Mr. Turbo, if, if they want to. I guess these days the, with the blue sky.
01:36:53
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Turbo 1975. I use it less than I did Twitter, but I ah like that place. It's got a good vibe. Block people easy. um Yeah, that's hit me up. Say hi. Good deal. Good deal. Once again, thank you. Thank you so much for coming on. I know Andy really appreciates it. um You reached out to me, made it even easier.
01:37:17
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yeahm just
01:37:20
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One, talk about celebration. One, having somebody to talk to about skeleton crew. and And I really appreciate it. And it's always fun having, getting to see, get to see our friends write in shining faces and talk about that stuff that stuff we we enjoy. I appreciate you having me on any time. Good deal. Happy chat.
01:37:40
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Yeah. But everybody else, thank you for ah thank you for checking us out again. You know where to find us. at You can check us out at our website, justshillin.com, where you can find links to all of our social medias, including Instagram, Blue Sky, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Links to the podcast, which you're currently listening to, so I don't know why you'd need it.
01:38:01
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ah Feel free to send us an email or voicemail or if you're cool like Sal You can leave a comment on a Spotify podcast that I'm not sure where it goes, but I did get a notification. I saw it. I Thank you Sal. I Yeah, that was wild. ah Thank you until next week Thanks again everybody Bye i i i e i