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Clueless (1995) - "Ugh, As If!"
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Oh my god, we’re totally buggin’ for Amy Heckerling’s “Clueless”. This nostalgia trip is as sweet as Cher’s loqued out Jeep. Staring Alicia Silverstone, Stacey Dash, Paul Rudd, Donald Faison, the late Brittany Murphy, and a ton more you forgot were in this movie.
This episode comes to us as a Listener Request by our old friend Nikki, who joins us in the second half of the recording to dive into the 90's with us. Tim, Chris, and Dana explore what defined them in the 90's… No Fear shirts, skater’s cuts, Ace of Base… Even the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Coming Out of Their Shells Tour?
This movie opened the flood gates for 90's nostalgia and we dove right in. Does this coming-of-age teen comedy hold up 25 years after the fact or is it a Monet? Find out on this episode of On Second Watch
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This episode comes to us as a Listener Request by our old friend Nikki, who joins us in the second half of the recording to dive into the 90's with us. Tim, Chris, and Dana explore what defined them in the 90's… No Fear shirts, skater’s cuts, Ace of Base… Even the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Coming Out of Their Shells Tour?
This movie opened the flood gates for 90's nostalgia and we dove right in. Does this coming-of-age teen comedy hold up 25 years after the fact or is it a Monet? Find out on this episode of On Second Watch
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Huge thanks to MASAMI for sponsoring this episode. Just like Cher, take care of yourself and “do something for humanity” by using hair care products that are clean, vegan, and cruelty free. Visit LoveMASAMI.com and use the promo code SPRINGISHERE for 10% off and Free Shipping
Special Shout Out to the podcast TrueCrimeXS. They provide a different take on the True Crime genre and uncover some secrets that may have been missed in the investigation. Subscribe today wherever you get your podcasts and visit TrueCrimeXS.com
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In a world of big budget blockbusters, travel back in time to explore the epic and not so epic movies of yesteryear.
Podcast and Episode Introduction
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Join Tim, Chris, and Dana on their adventures through nostalgia land. This is On Second Watch, a movie nostalgia podcast.
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Welcome to another movie nostalgia review with On Second Watch. If this is your first time listening to us, here's the basic idea. We select one movie that's at least 10 years old for each episode. We'll try to remember various details about the film and each of us will give you our nostalgia rating of that movie.
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Then we'll rewatch the movie and reflect on what our new experiences were, what we may have noticed that we missed before, and explore some fun trivia along the way. And finally, we'll wrap up by giving our own rewatch rating and compare our scores to see if the movie got better or worse with time. Now, this episode's a little different for a few reasons. First, we don't have Spaz with us today. And even though Spaz isn't here, we're going to have a special guest in the second half of this recording.
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Um, so there'll be less vulgarity and we'll try to keep the fun. So bear with us on that one. Uh, secondly, uh, we're doing this all remote because of that thing that shall not be named. And Michigan is under a stay home, be safe executive order. And our podcast, it was deemed not essential, but, uh, thanks to some techno wizardry, uh, we're going to do our best, uh, record this on a, on a new platform.
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We'll still try to have a fun show and provide a little escapism for everybody. Fun is essential, so we're gonna try. And thirdly, this episode is a special one because it comes to us as a listener request. You can request your own review on oswpodcast.com.
Focus on 'Clueless'
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Thanks to Nicky, we're gonna open up the 1995 time capsule and re-review the coming of age team comedy Clueless.
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which is written and directed by Amy Heckerling. So let's go around the virtual table. First off, we're gonna tell everybody your 90s cliche, what defined you in the 90s and how long it's been since you've seen this movie.
90s Nostalgia and Fashion
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So Dana, how about we start with you? All right, well, no surprise here. I haven't seen this movie. What? Oh my God.
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And I'd say my 90s cliche is the very 90s music. I mean, let's get into some specifics here, Dana. Are you talking like Hanselman? Like, are we bopping? We're talking kind of like, you know, your Ace of Base, your Spice Girls, your New Metal. We're not going to like go into that one, you know.
00:04:38
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Lots of- It was not very 90s, except for the music. No, your 90s persona was that high school girl that everyone had to do the makeover for, right? That was your thing. That's probably more my ammo. Except we were all, what, 10-11 when this movie came out? Yeah, it started it all. Probably around there. Both Dana. This still would have applied.
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the beginning of it all. So Chris, how about you? What's, what's your nineties cliche? Oh man. I don't know. I mean, say I was like 10 at the time. Was like spiked hair, like a nineties cliche thing. Cause I'm pretty sure for like a solid, like four years or like from like the ages of like six to 10 spiked hair. Yeah. I was also thinking that the shelf haircut that everyone had, but that was kind of, that was the late nineties, the mushroom, like, uh,
00:05:35
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That shelf, it just, you know, it came forward and then just squeezed it over the top. Yeah, there you go. Unfortunately, that was, that was, yeah, I guess like 99 through like high school. Right. You know, I'm pretty sure you could, you could crash a, like a car into the, like the wall I had. It was like three meters tall.
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But yeah, I mean, I don't know if cliches goes. I mean, like, I'm pretty sure I owned like a no fear shirt at some point in time. Oh, no fear. Yeah. Along with that sweet spiked hair. I mean, my, I gotta lie, my spike hair was cool. So I mean, I'm all about that. Sure. It wasn't. Oh my God. No, I haven't thought about no fear and, uh, jinko jeans. I didn't have any, but like, I remember that being a trend.
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I had one pair. I didn't know what I was doing. Definitely. We had the no fear shirts. Trying to think like mid 90s, like not like later 90s, but like mid 90 cliches, even early cliches. I can't think of anything else really. Oh, here's one for you. Drawing stusies on your notebooks and stuff. I'm sorry. Remember those things? Stucy? Remember those? Oh my God. All right. I'm going to show you a picture. Is it like the, is the stucy like the S?
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Yeah, like those lines. Yeah, that thing. Yeah. I just remember like everyone just knew how to do the S. Everybody. Speaking of like cliche, like early 90s, I had a pair of Reebok pumps and like LA lights or whatever. Is that what they were? Like, yeah, LA light shoes.
00:07:08
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Oh, I forgot how cool those were at the time. I'm pretty sure my parents could find me in the middle of a field while camping because I lit up the 4th of July when I walked. Those were the best. They never had to worry about where I was because I just brought the techno show with me, apparently. LA Lights and Reebok pumps. I owned a pair of each of those growing up. And neither one of them helped with my athleticism at all. You sure about that? No. Those pumps really helped you jump.
00:07:36
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Uh, nope, nope. Still terrible on basketball. I remember begging my parents to get like those soap shoes. Oh my God. Or the Heelys. I think the Heelys were more. Heelys were like, I think a little bit later on. Like I want to say like my younger brother had a pair of Heelys. I'm just like, those are just a walking ER visit pretty much.
00:07:57
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But I wanted those soaps so bad. Soaps, it was just like, here, we're gonna slap some plastic on it so, you know, you can just jump and grind off stuff without having any type of roller blade or skateboard with you. I'm sure those were terrible for your posture. I'm sure they offered like zero support and there was like 90 bucks because someone like hot glued a pair of like, you know, plastic bottles at the bottom of a shoe and it's like three kids buy them. Okay, so how about your last time seeing
Cultural Impact of 'Clueless'
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this movie?
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Last time seeing Clueless. Wow. Um, 10 plus years ago. Okay. It's like, see, I want to say it was like when I was in college and then that's still 10 plus years ago and now I'm just depressed. Oof. Yeah. That's a little bit. Yeah. I think it was in college. So sometime like, you know, oh, 506. Okay. I mean, just you and a bunch of guys hanging out watching Clueless. I mean, yeah, I don't see the issue here.
00:08:54
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No, I can't recall. It could have been another friend of mine who really liked it. Yeah, I honestly couldn't remember. But I mean, I enjoy the movie. So regardless, I can't remember who. I don't own it, though. Yeah. All right. So going to my 90s cliche, I had the skaters cut. What did my mom's cut? It was like, so there's that strip of hair, like a mohawk in the top. Shaved all underneath, but you wore it to the side. So it was really sweet.
00:09:26
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The look on Chris's face is how not sweet it was. It's really sweet, like subjective because, uh, yeah. I mean, I thought my commentary was sweet, so maybe your skater due was sweet. So, um, it increased my popularity one fold. So yeah. And together with our products combined, we had one full head of hair, apparently. I think so.
00:09:47
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Yeah. One full head. Yeah. Um, yeah, I, I, my brother and I begged my mom for that and she finally caves, let us do it. And I think she then shaved our heads or, um, it did not last. I remember it not lasting very long, but that was me. You're a skater boy. Just see you later, boy. That's like four words I know out of that entire song.
00:10:16
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Tim will sing the rest of it for you right now, guaranteed. I'll have to start my own podcast all about Avril Lavigne and my cover band called Avril Lange, but that's a story for another day. This is news to me and I'm now very glad we're doing this remotely because I'm scared. Dana knows my love for Avril. It is something I never expected.
00:10:41
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I've known Tim for almost 20 plus years and this is news to me. We should all be happy that Terry Oogie didn't end in Afro Levine. Yeah, that was a missed opportunity. It's too bad. Oh, well. All right, so if I go back to the movie, I'm thinking back to the last time I saw this.
00:11:07
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I'm really struggling to recall if I truly did ever see it. I know I've seen pieces of it in my younger years, but I don't know, I think when I rewatch it, it's going to ring a bell in the, oh yeah, yeah, I saw this, but I don't know, it might just been a collection of clips for the most part that I've seen. There's a lot of scenes I remember, but I think it's all just memories that manifested in my brain.
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We'll find out. It concerns me that neither one of you, as of now, have completely seen this movie. It was a popular movie. It's not like we're pulling some unknown movie from the realms of the 90s. I know. I'm floored. I shouldn't be surprised about David.
00:11:51
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I mean, at this point in time, I act surprised, but really, I'm not. You're probably more surprised when I've seen a movie. Right, yeah. You've seen Inception. I know this. But Tim, I would assume you've seen at least the movie one way or another. But I mean, once again, I guess, growing up, it'd be 10, 12 when it came out. A little young for the crowd and then as you got older, it's like, you're going to go out of your way to watch Clueless. I mean, it is on TBS every other weekend, apparently. I remember that growing up.
00:12:22
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So yeah, I may have that age. I may have just dubbed it as a, Oh, this is a girl movie. I don't want to watch something for me. It was 95. So I'm pretty sure we were watching Mortal Kombat. Right. Right. I'm pretty sure that's what I came out. That sounds right. Yeah. Oh, yes. So that's, that's the more kind of stuff I wanted to see, but probably not anymore. I don't know.
00:12:46
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Like I said, maybe I'll watch this movie and it'll hit me like, Oh yeah, I've seen it, but I can't, it's not in my memory at all. So, I mean, I don't remember it completely. I mean, like I said, it's been 10 plus years since I've, I've seen it. So, I mean, I recall some of it. It'll, it'll be interesting for sure. Like I said, it's like a, like a time capsule. It's like, I don't know how much of the fashion and the behaviorisms and all that is true nineties or.
00:13:13
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they made it up for the movie, but when I think back to the 90s, I just, clueless, it just kind of, that fashion, the attitude, the talking, just really just, that's what sticks in my head when I think of the 90s.
Comparing 90s Films
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If I try to remember like vaguely, I want to say it was very much like the cliche like trends that they really like leaned into hard. Not so much like the everyday person like trends, but it was like the extreme trends, you know, that were popular back then. It's like, and I remember like a lot of the personas revolving around that. And I mean, I could be wrong, but like, that's kind of what I recall from when I watched it.
00:13:47
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I know I told him earlier, because I obviously don't know anything about the movie. I was just assuming it must be just a bunch of blonde chicks. And he said it's not. So I'm looking forward to proving this wrong. Oh, yeah, no, it's it's a lot more than that. It's actually it's a good movie all the way through and through. It's not like, it's not like a typical silly, like, I don't even know how to describe it, like cliche, like poking fun at everything in the 90s. It actually has a decent plot. And it's it's fairly entertaining. But remember, I think Paul Rodden. He is.
00:14:16
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Oh, now I know three people in the movie. I'm feeling much better about this. I didn't want to tell Dana who's in this movie because like literally everybody, you'll see almost every actor like, Oh, really? And, uh, Oh, there's, there's tons of people. Yeah. There's tons of people in this movie. It's, it's crazy. The amount of people that are in this movie. I'm honestly looking forward to seeing it because everybody who said anything about it has said pretty good things about it. So, Oh, it's, it's, it's a good movie. I enjoy it. I'm looking forward to rewatching it again.
00:14:46
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Yeah, it's gonna be fun, I think. So jumping down into some of the details I had. So Amy Heckerling directed Fast Times at Ridgemont High before this. That was her debut. That's another one. I haven't seen that movie. I really dropped the button. I haven't either. I've seen clips of it. It's like one of those cult classic movies that I probably need to get on the list.
00:15:11
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Sunday to see it. She also directed National Lampoon's European vacation. And when I think back to being a kid, she wrote and directed Look Who's Talking and Look Who's Talking 2 and produced Look Who's Talking Now. I just remember Look Who's Talking 2. I'm pretty sure that's the one with the potty monster. I think that's true, yes.
00:15:38
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Yep. That one, that's like the only thing I remember being hilarious as a kid, like growing up was Bruce Willis yelling at the toilet as a child because the toilet was a monster.
Amy Heckerling's Influence
00:15:50
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Another thing I need to see, I guess. You haven't had someone who's talking? No. Oh, Bruce Willis. Shucking. Yeah. Well, he just said Bruce Willis and I'm like, well, I guess I have to watch it now. Yeah. He plays another bald character.
00:16:08
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Yeah. Well, that's, that's one of those movies that I saw, like I used to love it as a kid. And, uh, I think when I watched it quite a few years ago, I mean, wow, this is not kid appropriate in many, many scenes. Now I know why my mom fast forward through the first five minutes of that movie every time. It makes sense now. Yep. So Dana, if you don't know, it literally starts out like sperm meeting the egg and like all those, the sperm is animated, like they're all characters.
00:16:37
Speaker
Yeah. You're going to crash course and like the reproduction cycle, like real quick with that movie. It's like, it's like one of those, uh, animated things that you'd watch in, um, health class in sixth grade to learn about the birds and the bees. Yeah. Sex sex. Yeah. It's like, it's like the animated like stuff they have like on laser disc from like 1978 that they would play in like sex that it's like that kind of anime.
00:17:01
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Well, that's disturbing. There we go. That's a good start. But yeah, that's why I was always fast forward. And I didn't get the joke until much later. But this this movie had a $12 million budget and made over 56 million in the box office. And it even hit 10 million in its opening weekend, which I mean, for what it is, it's that's pretty good. All things considered, this is a, you know, original movie that
00:17:31
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I'm not sure. So there's a lot of things about Amy Heckerling we could go into, especially being a woman director, producer, writer at that time, it's going against the grain, having to fight and claw her
Exploring 90s Trends
00:17:45
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way up. And she's a take no crap kind of person. So she fought very hard to do a lot of the things that she did and had a lot of success over the years.
00:17:54
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But I think Clueless is definitely up there as one of the top coming of age teen movies out there. In 2008, Entertainment Weekly ranked Clueless as the 19th best comedy movie of the last 25 years. And from what you're saying, Chris, and what I've heard a lot of people say is Clueless is a solid movie.
00:18:19
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I keep thinking, so if I'm looking at, is it going to hold up now? Because it's very much a photograph from the 90s. Is it still going to hit that note for me?
00:18:30
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If I remember correctly, because of the story, I mean, yeah, it's very much like stuck in the 90s, if you will. Yeah, I mean, but like the story itself is like overall, like even watching it now, it's still enjoyable. It's not one of those movies where it's like, oh, God, this is this is really dated, like it's no longer enjoyable. But it's fun. I was going to say, like, it's like for me, it's like I remember this movie, it's like enjoyable for like, but for more as I've gotten older a little bit, even like a few years after this movie came out,
00:18:57
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Like when you think about being in the 90s, I think of like, can't hardly wait.
00:19:03
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and like 10 things I made about you, which both came like 98, 99. So it was only a few years after that. But like for those and this movie altogether for me are like definitely like some of the more popular like coming of age, like teen movies, if you will, of like the 90s. And it's funny you bring up 10 things I hate about you because both this Clueless and 10 things I hate about you were based off of literature, some books made or written, I don't even know what century.
00:19:32
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Classic literature. Yeah, 10 things I hate about you. I'm probably gonna get it wrong. I'm gonna look it up right after I say this. I believe is a very broad approach to taming of the shrew. That's exactly right. Yes. Yeah. I don't know what Clueless is based off of though. So yeah, Clueless is Jane Austen. Oh, the novel Emma.
00:19:55
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And there's been a number of Emma movies and remakes. I think one just actually came out in theaters not too long ago, but it's based off the same premise, you know, but obviously the modern twists, which it seems to work. Ten things I hate about you. I absolutely love that movie. Yeah. You know, I think taking some of this classic literature and spinning it, putting a modern teenage twist on it is, you know, always always great entertainment.
00:20:23
Speaker
I actually saw 10 things I hate about you. Just thought I'd put that in there. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's pump the brakes here for a minute. Holy shit. There we go. I think we've seen it actually multiple times. I have seen it multiple times. That's a good movie. I highly recommend watching Han Harley Wait 2 if you have not seen it. Just for like Seth Green's character alone. I think I've seen parts of it, not the whole thing. That's shocking too.
00:20:52
Speaker
That movie is really funny. All to give it a shot and go down that that rabbit hole of 90s movies. You toss it. Yeah, like right around that time too. I think there's idle hands with something again. That movie is that movie is amazing. I love idle hands. I was in it. Seth Green. Oh God, and I'm blanking how
00:21:17
Speaker
But that's the movie where he can't control his hand, right? It's kind of possessed by the devil. That's the devil. Yeah. Well, it's kind of, it's a horror movie comedy. So yeah, I've seen it. Yep. Yep. Jessica Alba. Yeah. That's okay. Fox. Yeah. Tons of people on this. All right. Well, we'll add it to our queue.
00:21:37
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somewhere. All right. So now I want to jump down into our shout outs. The first shout out I wanted to bring up was actually another podcast I listened to. It's called True Crime XS. I really kind of avoided the true crime
00:21:56
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genre because I knew I'd get kind of sucked in and but I gave these guys a listen when I was talking to them back and forth on Twitter a little bit and I was immediately hooked because I mean they suck you right in production quality was great. They kind of do a different take on true crime
00:22:11
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got some really good storytelling. And the host, John, I mean, he refers to this as kind of the spiritual sequel to what's already been released about this serial killer and the victims that they're focused on. And he believes that he can unearth some additional details that were missed by the FBI and some other people in the investigation. So he definitely brings a lot of interesting theories to light. So if you love a good story and
00:22:37
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Question the outcomes of some of the investigations and things that you've heard I definitely recommend subscribing to true crime XS if you want to link to their podcast They'll be in the show notes, but definitely hi How can I help you today as a McDonald's employee you say those words quite often? But how about when you need help like consulting a doctor? Hi, how can I help you today?
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00:24:00
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That's my shout out to you, your free shout out, you jerk. Um, you can go to oswpodcast.com and request your shout out there. Now also we have some nostalgia. Uh, some other people can submit your own nostalgia. So if you want to follow us on Facebook and Twitter, you can comment on those posts that we make and leave your own nostalgia for the movies that we're going to review. I'll also give you a link to record your own, uh, your own nostalgia.
00:24:29
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I have one here from Dawn. Clueless is
Interactive Game Segment
00:24:32
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my teenage coming of age movie. I was a teenager at the time and my friends and I were absolutely obsessed with this movie. I mean the cars, the clothes, the music.
00:24:44
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it all felt so relevant to our lives back then. What I liked most about it was that kind of the cool kid characters, Sharon, Dee, and the gang, they weren't your typical 80s style cheerleaders, jocks, nerds, et cetera, from like the 80s. They were all kind of smart, into fashion, went to parties, liked the majority of the kids that I knew and hung out with.
00:25:10
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The female characters were, you know, although they were, they were naive, but they were strong and independent. And I think it really fit like the whole 90s independent woman vibe that was going on back then. So yeah, it was absolutely my fave and it's funny and you can watch any time and naturally love it. Next on the list is the play the over under game. I have four questions.
00:25:36
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And I even had Nikki play along since she recommended this movie and she'll be joining us in the second half. She provided her responses to these already. Um, so I'm going to ask you guys, you're over under for the following questions. And I think.
00:25:53
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This first one, I'm gonna start with Dana. This movie has a lot of catchphrases used very often, a lot of those 90 terminologies. So how many times do we hear the phrase, as if, in this movie, I have over, under, 7.5 times? Over. Alrighty. How about you, Chris? Over. Alright. Okay, so Nikki has under. She thinks it's under 7.5.
00:26:20
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I know there's a book out called As If, I know there's a pop-up restaurant called As If, so it's definitely a very popular phrase, but we'll find out how many times I actually say it in the movie. Next, another favorite 90s phrase. How many times do we hear the phrase, whatever, in this movie? And I have 3.5 times. Let's start with Chris this time. And then, um...
00:26:46
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No, I don't know. Let's just, let's go, let's go with log under. Let's just mix it up. I already, I've already been knocked off from taking the lead on this. I forget who had it right now. Dana one last time. Right. All right. So you got under 3.5. So Dana, how many times are you here? Whatever. I'm going to go over. And Mickey for reference said over as well. Now we did mention that this was based off of the book, Emma by Jane Austen.
00:27:13
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And there are a lot of references to other literature or famous authors in this movie as well. So my question to you is how many different literary works or references books or authors are seen or made in this film? And I have over under 5.5, starting with Dana. I'm going to go with under. Yeah. Um, I'm going to go with under too.
00:27:38
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Ricky says over. I'm doing well then with my choices. You're only right. The total opposite. Perfect. So this will be the fun one.
Nostalgia Ratings
00:27:53
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So normally I have all the answers already doing some research online on what the correct answers are.
00:28:00
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But this one I don't have, so I'm going to have to keep track in this movie, but it's going to be fun. So between Cher and Dion, the two main characters, how many traffic offenses do they commit while driving? There's driving quite a bit in this movie and they are terrible drivers.
00:28:17
Speaker
I'm going to try to keep track of all the things that they do that in normal circumstances, they probably would have received a ticket or moving violation or something they do that's totally reckless throughout the movie. I have over under 15.5. Wow. So let's start with Chris. Oh, let's go with under. Can I ask a question before answering? Oh, you're making it more complicated. But yes, you can.
00:28:45
Speaker
The two characters, I'm assuming they're female? That's a valid question, yes. OK, it's over. Sorry, everybody. No, it's fine. I think when we go back and watch this movie, we're going to realize how stereotypical this movie really is. That's why I'm going over. I got over. So Nikki has over as well. Good. I feel real confident.
00:29:09
Speaker
You are the complete opposite of Nikki, the one that asked us to record this review and is obsessed with the movie. This is going to go well. I nailed it. Absolutely. All right. So that's our, that's our over-under. We got those four. So with that under that complete, now we're going to jump down to our nostalgia score. Now Dana, since you haven't seen this movie.
00:29:36
Speaker
Shocking, I know. Let's start with you. And out of 10, what do you think this movie is going to rate when we rewatch this with our with our 2020 mind, looking back at the 90s time capsule that this is? What would you rate this out of 10? So anyone I've talked to has actually said it was a pretty decent film. So just going off of my gut, I'm gonna say it's at least a seven out of 10.
00:30:02
Speaker
7 out of 10. That's pretty good. How about you, Chris? Where are you at out of 10? For me personally, I enjoy the movie, but it's not something special. I hold deer in my heart. I enjoy it. It's a good movie from the 90s. I give it a solid 5 out of 10. I mean, it's not bad. It's not good. I enjoyed it. I think I'm going to go right in the middle of you guys and say 6 for reasons of there's stuff I remember.
00:30:27
Speaker
stuff I have seen, I left. I think it's definitely, there's a reason why it's still hailed as a top comedy today. There's people are obsessed with it. There's a reason why the fact that the 25 year anniversary is coming up, that there's a pop-up restaurant all dedicated to this movie and lots of, lots of fandom everywhere. So I'm going to say six just because, you know, I need that refresher to see if I've actually seen it before.
00:30:57
Speaker
But yeah, there's definitely a reason for it to be as revered and worshiped as it is. So that puts us at an average nostalgia review of six even. I mean, I think Nikki said this is a 10 out of 10, but we'll talk to her after we see this movie and let her gush all about it and try to change our answers if they're not changed after we watch it again.
00:31:24
Speaker
I'm looking forward to her perspective on it too. I think it'll be a lot of fun. She'll definitely dive into it and we'll see. We'll see where we go. So any closing thoughts before we shut down and get ready for this movie? I am ready. Yep, same here. Alrighty guys, we'll jump back afterwards.
00:31:45
Speaker
should all oppressed people be allowed refuge in America. Amber will take the composition, Cher will be pro, Cher, two minutes. So, okay. Like right now, for example, the Hadians need to come to America. But some people are all, what about the strain on our resources? But it's like when I had this garden party for my father's birthday, right? I said RSVP because it was a sit-down dinner.
00:32:14
Speaker
But people came that, like, did not RSVP, so I was, like, totally bugging. I had to haul ass to the kitchen, redistribute the food, squish in extra place settings, but by the end of the day, it was, like, the more, the merrier. And so, if the government could just get to the kitchen, rearrange some things, we could certainly party with the Hadians. And in conclusion, may I please remind you that it does not say RSVP on the Statue of Liberty.
00:32:43
Speaker
Thank you very much. Amber, uh, reply? Mr. Hall, how can I answer that? The topic is Haiti, and she's talking about some little party. Hello. It was his 50th birthday. Whatever. If she doesn't do the assignment, I can't deny.
Revisiting 'Clueless'
00:33:09
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00:34:01
Speaker
So as I teased earlier, we have a special guest joining us today. And since this episode was sponsored, we have Nikki with us. She's going to join us for the second half. So hello, Nikki. Hey, thanks for having me. Really excited to be here. We're excited to have you. For reference, we all went to Nikki. Dana has obviously known Nikki the longest. That goes back to... Ooh.
00:34:27
Speaker
Wow. Kindergarten, first grade. At least, at least. Elementary years, for sure. And I think you even got her in detention or grounded a lot. Grounded a lot, I know for sure. I'm so sorry. Oh, it makes me feel so bad. No, it's awesome. Good memories. Bad influence. They let me know that I think you guys were watching Scream.
00:34:59
Speaker
Yeah, I was really into that movie. They shared the story that that she got grounded because they her parents found out that she was watching Scream at your house. And then fast forward to like ninth grade, we're all over at Ryan's house.
00:35:19
Speaker
And you're like, hey, let's watch Scream. And I think his parents came down and saw that we were watching that, and then Ryan got in trouble. So he had to think about getting people in trouble. Wow. And Scream, apparently. Like, I made everyone watch it. Whoops. It's a good movie. It was a good movie. Wait a second.
00:35:47
Speaker
That's like the scary movie I can handle. I'm not into the stuff that Chris is into. I can't take the, I need the humor and you know, like a Matthew Lillard type. Yeah, I guess. I mean, he's the voice of Shaggy. He is Shaggy in a lot of action ones. He does a great job.
00:36:05
Speaker
That's true. Good point. So I'm a bad influence back, hopefully. So I mean, actually, it's really funny that you talk about bad influence, because I didn't really realize until going back to rewatch this, I was like 10 when this came out, or 11. And I saw it in the movie theater. So my sister is six and a half years older than me. So she took me to go see it with it was her and her best friend. And so maybe that's why I was into older things. I don't know.
00:36:35
Speaker
Nothing wrong with that fluid. It's only appropriate for an 11 year old to see the fluid. I know, and I have a 12 year old niece, she just turned 12, and there's no way I would let her watch it. It's so inappropriate. So yeah, it's funny looking back at how young I was. It's a little bit scary, like, ooh, why did I enjoy that so much? I was way too young. But yeah.
00:36:58
Speaker
To start off, like normal, I wanted to go over our over under game and I had Nikki play along with us. And Chris, I think you had, yeah, you did opposite answers of Nikki on every single question. Absolutely. You're going to get most of them wrong. Or it's going to be humiliating for me either way. Hard question. So just so everyone knows. I mean, I was in the lead until we watched Inception and then I got absolutely destroyed. Sorry.
00:37:23
Speaker
Not sorry. This is going to be very validating. Very embarrassing. I'm anxious. It could go either way. Let's see how it all played out. So the first question we asked was how many times you hear the phrase as if. And I set the bar at 7.5. Chris and Dana have over. Nikki has under. Under. Because I watched it today and I'm an idiot. Ugh. As if.
00:38:03
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You'd think for how revered that phrase is that it was a lot more than that But no, right just whatever was I so I remembered whatever being like a huge thing as if not being as much but as if is maybe the better phrase and
00:38:18
Speaker
I mean, whatever was thrown around with the hand symbol in it, too. So I think to this movie, bring that to the map. I think this movie, it probably did. I'm going to say it probably did both of those phrases. And I mean, they're still relevant today. So, you know, go clue it.
00:38:39
Speaker
Question number two on that topic was how many times do we hear the phrase, whatever. And I set the bar at 3.5. So Chris was under Dana and Nikki were over. It was over.
00:38:54
Speaker
It was actually spoken four times, but I think just the hand gestures with nonverbal was like an extra three, four or five times, because it was just someone always in the background doing it. Mouthing it, yes. Or just doing like the hand symbol. Yeah. Yeah. Amber, especially, I think. So Nikki with two, Dana with one. I'm not even surprised.
00:39:22
Speaker
So the next question, how many literary works or references are seen or made in this movie? And I have the bar at 5.5. Dana and Chris were under. Nikki was over. The actual number is eight. So it was over.
00:39:38
Speaker
Yay, that was hard. But I remember there was, I mean, remember the fit or fat, like, that's enough for our, you know, she's doing the makeover. There's a lot. There's a staggering amount of references between people holding up books or referencing books or quoting Shakespeare. Shakespeare quote. Yep, yep, yep. Oh, and having not seen that movie before, I was surprised by that. I wasn't expecting it, but it was cool. Yeah. After knowing what it was based on and what it was trying to do.
00:40:04
Speaker
Like I wasn't. And once I saw it again, but it took me a while to remember that it was based off of Jane Austen's Emma. And I actually didn't even know that until I went to rewatch it. And it was in the description of the movie that it was based off of Jane Austen's Emma. I was like, whoa, this is a good movie. I think we talked about it. The first part of this, like how like 10 things I hate about you is a rendition taming of the shrew and things like that.
00:40:35
Speaker
Maybe that was a 90s thing. Yeah, it was like that chunk right there. There was like several movies that were like riffs off of famous literature that were like modernized. It's interesting. And it works because I sure as hell weren't reading those books. I know. Now I need to go read Emma. I'm a little bit ashamed to admit I've never read that book. Maybe I should have. I don't know. But now I want to read it. I never have either.
00:40:58
Speaker
Tim, did you ever read any of the books you were supposed to read in school? I read Harry Potter. That doesn't count. That was not a school assignment. Yeah, right. He had it approved so he could read it for school. Oh, that's awesome. Oh, my gosh. Lord of the Flies. I think I read that, like, no, I didn't. I know I didn't. That book's like, what, 60 pages? I did not read it. That's very short. Yeah. All right. So the score right now, after three questions, is Nikki with three. She's three for three. Dana with one. Chris with zero.
00:41:28
Speaker
Fantastic. Let's keep going. So we're down to the last question. So Nikki already wins. Yay. No need to stress out. No fear. You got it.
00:41:40
Speaker
I would like to get on the board here, so come on. So the last question is between Cher and Dion, how many traffic offenses did they commit? And I have the bar at 15.5. Chris, you're under. Dana and Nikki are over. The actual total, according to my calculation, is 12. So it's under. Take that, everyone. Top of the bat. Chris, that is 1.5.
00:42:07
Speaker
We'll give you one, Chris. It was participation trophies as a kid growing up. You were there. You were part of this. So here's your trophy. Go away.
00:42:19
Speaker
Oh, man. I mean, there's so many driving scenes, though. I mean, between the opening scene where she's going to pick up Dion, and then when Dion is driving, gets on the freeway, driving test, and then when she's driving with Josh, that's like at least four off the top of my head. So I figured for sure. The driving test alone had like five. Yes, oh my gosh. It came out of nowhere. Oops.
00:42:48
Speaker
Should I stop? Should I go? Oh my gosh. Watch out for the blank one! Oops, my bad. What are you doing? You can't take up both lanes. Get in the right lane. Oh, should I write them a note? All right, so Nikki wins. Yay! You can take your victory lap, feel validated that you got it right.
00:43:19
Speaker
Now that we're done with that, let's go into our impressions. Nikki, since you're our guest, and I know you have a lot to say, I think you wrote me like a novel when I asked you, here you are. Things that you liked about this movie, so why don't we start with you about your impressions, watching it again. Most recently, I know you've seen it quite a few times, but what stood out to you? What makes this movie so great to you? I think a big deal for this movie for me is, like I said, I saw it in the theater with my sister growing up. So actually, I think that brings a lot of nostalgia to it.
00:43:49
Speaker
For me going back and I watched this I own this movie and watched it every single night for at least a solid year if not more I fell asleep to it so I know the movie by heart But
First-time Viewing Experiences
00:43:59
Speaker
I actually hadn't seen it for a good 10 years Plus like I was in college last time I had seen it because I had to get rid of all of our VHS tapes when we you know TVs got more complicated or whatever or my husband's brilliant he just said I
00:44:12
Speaker
Oh yeah, we can't. It just doesn't work anymore. So anyways, I hadn't seen it in a long time. So I was really hoping that it held up to my high expectations. I mean, before I saw it, I think I would have, I said it was like a nine maybe with the opening credits. I mean, all you see is the paramount symbol.
00:44:30
Speaker
And as soon as the Kids in America song comes on, I mean, a wave of nostalgia just flowed over me and it all came flooding back. I just love the movie. I loved not only just how funny it was with what the teenagers are doing because they're in Beverly Hills, right? And it's just so obnoxious. I'm just a normal kid, right? I put clothes and it's like on a TV screen or computer screen. But the soundtrack was way better than I remembered. I didn't remember it being a factor at all.
00:44:58
Speaker
But I mean, for being 95, you know, it definitely was like the quintessential what was cool in 1995. So I thought that the soundtrack raised the score for me even a little bit. But another thing that I love about the movie, which I remembered, but was reminded of even more people going back and watching it is how many people are in the movie. I mean, a lot of people start in the movie.
00:45:21
Speaker
It's really fun to go back and see Paul Rudd, I don't know how young he was there, but like a baby basically. I did a big dive into IMDB after watching this, which I do with a lot of movies. He was, I believe, 26. What's interesting with Paul Rudd is this, a lot of people are like, oh, this is his major debut, movie debut.
00:45:45
Speaker
is but isn't like it came it was done after he did Halloween six but Halloween six didn't come out until after this movie due to like there was an issue or whatever but it was actually wrapped up and filmed prior to clueless so technically I think it was Halloween six is his first movie but everyone refers to this one because of the way they came out and that's your information on Paul Rudd's movies.
00:46:09
Speaker
Hey, James Bond. In America, we drive on the right side of the road. That's interesting, actually. Oh, we should watch Halloween 6, please, please. No, let's not watch that. All I'm going to add about Paul Rudd is he still looks the exact same. That man does not age. He didn't. His voice sounds different, but he looks the same. It's creepy. Yeah, that's fair. He looks basically the same. That's true. He must be a vampire.
00:46:38
Speaker
It's also funny to look back at, you know, how technology is so much different for the beefers and cell phones. Yes, there was definitely a scene where I noticed someone had the giant, you know, say by the bell, like, whatever his name was, Zach, whatever one of those cell phones. And then I was like, Oh my gosh, this is funny.
00:46:57
Speaker
I love the giant CRT monitor in the beginning that she uses to get her clothes on her computer. It's a touchscreen, but it's so, yeah, it's midnight. Old. Back then, those kind of monitors were hundreds of dollars.
00:47:18
Speaker
But it still holds up and actually I think it added to it, seeing all the old technology. It just made it even more fun to see what was cutting edge back. So I think it, I mean, not only did it hold for me, not only did it hold up, it was just as funny as I had remembered. Maybe funnier because I probably get more jokes than I did.
00:47:37
Speaker
back then, but I liked all the, like I said, the music and the technology callbacks. I thought it was fun. So my, I would say after watching it, I would give it probably, I have an issue giving movies a 10 because I'm like Dana and I, it's like, what is perfect? I don't know. But I'd say it's a nine and a half. Solid.
00:48:01
Speaker
Chris, why don't we go to you? You saw it today, I think, right? Right. I watched it earlier today. I enjoyed it. It was like Nicky said, it was a good nostalgic trip. I mean, it was time when it came out and I didn't see it until I was a little bit older, but a lot of the trends and the fads and stuff, I was like, yeah, I can relate to this. I was like, yep, baggy pants, still with those things, real comfortable.
00:48:28
Speaker
I'm okay with that. But yeah, it was funny just like how bad some of the trends were. I was like, Oh, yep, that was a thing. And oh my God, that's
00:48:36
Speaker
That's hideous. But I enjoyed it. I thought it was a funny movie. Like I said, I haven't read the book, but it's based off of and stuff. But overall, it was a good movie. I enjoyed it. After watching it, to me, I enjoy it, but it's definitely not one of my top 10s, but I definitely enjoyed it. I'm going to raise it a little bit because I did enjoy... When I rewatched it again, I was like, oh, this is a lot of fun.
00:48:59
Speaker
It was a good flashback to that time and place, you know, that era. So I'm going to give it a six, just a little bit more. I mean, I still enjoy it very much, a very good movie. But to me, it's not like, oh my God, I need to stop everything and watch this.
00:49:13
Speaker
I know. I said the same thing about Inception. And like, I think Dana was in a slap. But it's not one of my top 10. But you're also talking to the guy that goes out of his way to watch the horror movies. So I, you know, my, my, you know, taste is subjective. So fair, fair. I can't wait until we do Halloween time. And I'm like, everyone wants like terrible older Halloween horror movies. And it's gonna make my day.
00:49:42
Speaker
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it. And like you said, I gotta go back to the amount of people in this movie blows my mind. Like just like, I mean, everybody is in this one way or another. That's relatively famous this day and age. I totally forgot Jeremy Sisto was in this. I was like,
00:49:56
Speaker
I was like, oh shit, like Jeremy Sesto. And I'm gonna probably mispronounce his last name, but like Donald Faison from like Scrubs, obviously. Yeah, Scrubs, right. Right? Yeah. And it's watching him in this movie. I mean, he's, he's, he's so similar in a way to his role on Scrubs. And I absolutely love Scrubs. But I mean, I mean, everybody, one way or another in this movie was, is famous, even nowadays for the most part. It's crazy. Yeah, definitely noticed that as well. It was just, uh, you know, you forget a lot about a lot of actors and then suddenly, oh my gosh, that's them 20 years ago from the first time I saw them.
00:50:25
Speaker
and yeah I mean and Paul Rudd it's it's always funny because like everybody knows Paul Rudd Paul Rudd but like if you look at like his his history and movies and stuff like obviously he's super popular now he's you know ant man you know you know
00:50:38
Speaker
all of that. And it's like, this is awesome. But if you go back even before that, there's a lot of indie movies, a lot of comedy movies. So it's weird. Everyone's like, oh, yeah, Paul Rudd's super popular. I'm like, yeah, he's always been there one way or another throughout the years. It's just like he did a lot more, I think, indie movies, more comedy. But now, obviously, it's Ant-Man and the Marvel Universe and all that. His popularity has gone through the rough and also the fact that he doesn't age.
00:51:05
Speaker
I think when he was on Friends too, that helped him out a lot as far as being relevant, popular culture. Right. Yeah, there was that. I think it's funny too, Jeremy Sisto. He was on a series a few years ago that I enjoyed. It was called Suburgatory. It's funny because one way or another, I think quite a few people from this movie were affiliated with that series one way or another. I know the director directed one of the episodes.
00:51:29
Speaker
There was a lot of cameos. And I thought that was kind of funny. Yeah, he's been in a lot of things. And Travis, I don't know what I've seen him in, but I know I've seen him around. Oh, Travis? Travis is huge. And I'm going to blank on his name, and I feel bad. I'm going to look it up. Because he was in a bunch of stuff that I loved. And Mr. Hall, he's wrapped straight from Toy Story.
00:51:51
Speaker
Mark and Meyer is Travis's name. Yeah. He's been in a ton of stuff like Rat Race. Yes. Rat Race. Oh, I love that movie too. I forgot about that. Yep. He was on Franklin and Bash, which was a TV series a few years ago with obviously a good old Zach.
00:52:06
Speaker
from safe by the Bell Mark Paul All tied together see reference from the phone Yeah, I can wire did a ton of stuff king of the hill robot chicken It's always fun to watch him mom and different things. I always thought he's a great actor
00:52:22
Speaker
Well, Dana, how about you? What are your thoughts seeing this movie for the first time? I enjoyed it. I mean, for me, it was one of those where I felt like it's like, okay, if it was on, I'd watch it again, but I didn't mind it at all. So I mean, I don't know. I enjoyed it the entire time. I was laughing a lot. And just like you guys watching it, I'm like, wow, everybody was in this. I had no idea. Thank you for not telling me in the beginning who was in it, by the way.
00:52:47
Speaker
It was a fun journey. It did. No, but I mean, it was cool seeing like where everybody was in other movies going along. Not that I've seen that many. But no, I recognize them though. But I mean, I really enjoyed it. So I mean, I think I'll keep my score the same. I think overall, it was solid. So I will say is that especially being we went to a school with uniforms, we missed out on a lot fashion wise.
00:53:18
Speaker
Yeah, and maybe that's one reason why I basically idolized the outfits Cher was wearing. I was really thinking that was something special and it's probably because I wore a uniform. Exactly. I think that had a lot to do with it because I'm looking at it and I'm like, I didn't have anything like that, but it was probably the uniform.
00:53:39
Speaker
Right, I can't so yeah, there's no real base to say if that was how people Was this another joke in the movie or was it based in reality no idea I think the four of us would be the least likely to know
00:53:58
Speaker
It's hard to separate because, you know, when I was doing some research on this, Amy Heckerling even said that it's basically like, it's like a caricature of the 90s. It's not they basically made up a lot of the phrases that were used. They sat through the classes at the Beverly Hills, some of the schools just to see how people interacted, talked their lingo, just to pick this kind of stuff up for the movie. But then they just kind of went off and made their own phrases and things like that just to kind of build on top of it. But this movie is so much part of our culture and the 90s zeitgeist that it's just
00:54:27
Speaker
That's what you think of. So I don't know what's reality anymore. Yeah, right. Oh my God, I'm totally bugging. I can't believe that. I just looked at Paul Rudd Moore and that was the semblance of reality. I was like, yeah. I will say Jeeps haven't changed a bit, which isn't a surprise. Did we have to look up what a Betty was? I looked that up, yeah. I think we both were like, what? I don't remember that part.
00:54:56
Speaker
So they said it multiple times, like, oh, that she's such a Betty. Oh, a Betty. Oh, OK. We're referencing the Flintstones. That's the thing. Whatever. I have to admit, I mean, I remember that, like, wasn't my mom a Betty? Right. But I don't know who they were referencing. Who were they referencing?
00:55:16
Speaker
I thought it was like Bette Davis. My Google search, not that it's very sophisticated, just pulled up the Flintstones of that phrase because they also refer to someone being a Barney. So I don't know. Oh, they do. Oh my gosh. Well, that's a little disappointing.
00:55:36
Speaker
But that's that's what I got. Yeah, that's another phrase they made up. Good point. Forgot about I mean that really no one ever said that. And I also like Monet. Yeah, that was a good one. Yes. What's a Monet? Big old mess. Yeah.
00:55:53
Speaker
There are definitely some things that popped out to me when I was watching this. So in addition to the actual jokes, it was a very intelligent movie. My preconceived thought about this movie was that these rich snobby girls were idiots, but they were not at all. They were extremely smart, had a broader vocabulary than any teenager I've ever came across. They weren't done by any means. And the fact that her father was a litigator, or I'm sorry, that she referred to as daddy.
00:56:18
Speaker
Daddy was a litigator and he used a lot of what she picked up just to help change her grades, argue her points, even though in her debate class or whatever, she was never prepared, but she still came up with something out of nowhere. They were intelligent. There was definitely a lot of empowerment, I think.
00:56:34
Speaker
in the characters. Another thing that stood out to me that I laughed about was considering everything that's going on right now with COVID-19 and the great toilet paper, whatever you want to call it, the shortage. At the very beginning when they showed the TV and it's Beavis and Butt-Head, it's literally the Cornholio episode. Perfect, perfect reference.
00:56:57
Speaker
And then obviously the other cartoon that showed up was Ryan Stimpy. They are way essential. I think it's interesting like you were talking about like you were expecting them to be kind of ditzy and stuff and obviously my knowledge of the book that it's based on is Slum the Nun. I do wonder obviously if the characters in the novel were that in the same way everyone expected them to be you know kind of
00:57:19
Speaker
not the brightest whatever maybe they came from money or something of that nature but obviously they were quite intelligent and things of that nature and I wonder if that's like the basis of the book too. So I looked up because I was so intrigued and I had no idea that it was based on Jane Austen's Emma until like I said so I kind of googled that a little bit and
00:57:39
Speaker
it said it was basically just that it was a girl who tries to play like matchmaker and set all these different people up but she fails horribly and in the process she learns about herself and who she is and I don't know if in the book she also falls in love but that could have been so I think it was just that basic how Cher is trying to hook everyone up and a lot of them are failing and
00:58:03
Speaker
not good matches and then she realizes at the end about her and how she's in love with Josh and I don't know. Just love it with her step-brother. Yeah, it's just modernized. Yeah, right. That apparently is a big conversation topic when you start googling the movie Clueless and stuff. But they were not related, right? That just means their parents were married. Apparently from what I gathered, because a lot of people were weirded out by that,
00:58:29
Speaker
was for a brief moment, Josh's mom was married to Cher's father briefly, about five years prior to what we watched. But he still came around to self help Cher's dad with his work and things of that nature. But yeah, they were never related or anything of that nature. But they were for a brief moment, step siblings, and then they weren't.
00:58:52
Speaker
So not weird at all. I mean, weird a little bit. You hop on in Google stuff. Yeah, there's a lot of conversations regarding that whole premise. That's funny. Which was kind of funny. Another thing I wanted to bring up was
00:59:12
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Her dad was probably my favorite character. Yes. Yes. He's so funny when he yells at people like, get out of my chair. Exactly. That's so good. Doesn't even know this girl and he's like, get out of my chair. Hi, daddy. This is my new friend Ty. Get out of my chair. Yes. So good.
00:59:35
Speaker
Before it is not having a shovel, I guarantee no one will miss it. Yes, the whole thing with Christian is so good. I'm sitting here taking notes from my daughters or older, you know. I think you literally are. I think you are. Don't tell me those brain-dead lowlives have been calling again. They are your parents. Anything happens to my daughter, I got a 45 and a shovel. I doubt anybody would miss you. Hi, Daddy. This is my friend Ty. Get out of my chair.
01:00:04
Speaker
Uh, that was, I thought it was just a, you know, a hard character, but then he obviously showed us this softer side a little bit later that, you know, what he really thinks, but he was a great, uh, great character. I spent, you know, that scene where he's, they're sitting down and eating dinner. He's like, actually no food, food or no phones at the table. We're eating dinner. And then two seconds later, his phone rings and he's up and that's a parent move for you. Yup. Yup.
01:00:30
Speaker
So I originally rated this a six based off of the bits and pieces I remember. I think I'm gonna jump it up to a seven. It was a very funny movie. It was very entertaining. And at the same time, I could laugh about everything 90s about this movie between the technology, the touchscreen CRT at the beginning had me just laughing. I just like, Oh, here we go. Right? Yeah, whatever program she had to pick her wardrobe. It's, it's just absurd. But
01:00:57
Speaker
Um, just just seeing all that was just was great. And obviously the everyone running around with a beeper. Why? Why? I'm so glad that was not was not old enough to start wanting to be a part of that trend, but
01:01:13
Speaker
Uh, it was just, it was, it was a lot of fun. So seven out of 10 for me, it was a very enjoyable, funny film. You know, there's those periods, if you can go back, you want to see something that's also like pure seventies nostalgia, pure eighties nostalgia. I think clues is definitely one of those films that will be in that small category of this, this is the nineties.
Future Podcast Episodes
01:01:31
Speaker
Yup. Agreed. It's a couple of years, like I said, it's a couple of years before the other ones that I lump in together. Like if you want like a snapshot of the nineties, you have clueless at 95, but like you have 10 things I hate about you, which I believe was like 98. And then, um, like I really like can't hardly wait. Oh, that's such a good one. Right. Which is 98 again. I mean, it's a couple of years after, but like to me, like nothing really changed as far as like trends and stuff within like the two, three years that they were out. So I think seem very similar.
01:02:00
Speaker
obviously clueless being more of a satire characterization of like the extremeness of like some of the outfits and things. But like, yeah, I mean, baggy pants, chain wallets, skateboarding. I don't think it was it was funny how heavy handed the stereotypes were in this movie, too. Obviously, between the rich girls, the skater guys, you know, your gay character, smokers, or
01:02:29
Speaker
I don't think it was poking fun at anything really necessarily, but it was just kind of that characterization kind of amped up to 11 a little bit, but it made for some good fun. Nikki, I'm curious, when you decided on this movie, what were you expecting all of us to go with it? I'm just curious what your thought process was.
01:02:49
Speaker
So sort of weird, but I thought I want to get what their take on it is. Am I crazy? Because I think it's such a good movie. I need to hear a collective, other people from my generation and see what their take on it was. And I was expecting most people to be like, oh, this movie is going to be horrible.
01:03:05
Speaker
So and then watching it and thinking oh it was way better than I thought it was so really pleased that you know I saw it and he liked it and had good memories and it's really cool that you hadn't seen it so you got to give a take of yeah but basically I just wanted to see am I crazy that you know and also I thought what's a really
01:03:27
Speaker
good nostalgic movie because I wanted to pick one movie for you guys to review and so I had to just sort of rack my brain and think like what are my favorite movies of the past? I think would be salad would hold up. See yes that would be salad and would hold up. I would watch the hell out of it. I like guilty pleasure, absolutely love biodome. Like it's a terrible movie it came out in the same time frame it is 95 too but god do I love that movie. It's so
01:03:56
Speaker
But I'll have you know, another movie I was considering was Big Trouble in Little China. Oh, yes. Yes. Oh my God. Yes. I used to love that growing up. It's one of my favorite movies. I was so young and I would be like, what's your favorite movie? My parents tell this, like I was like six or something and they would think I would say like Cinderella and I'd be like, Big Trouble in Little China. And they're like, oh my God. Yes.
01:04:22
Speaker
Yeah. But I didn't think that was going to hold up because I also watched that in college and remembered thinking like, whoa, this is not as good as I remembered. So now I don't I mean, I need to see it again. Now, obviously, Chris is going to go watch it after this.
Trivia and Fun Facts
01:04:40
Speaker
I think when we were making our shortlist last year, when we had this idea of doing this podcast, I think Big Trouble Little China was one of the first 20 movies that we.
01:04:52
Speaker
I mean, so obviously it's not a 90s movie. It's like, look up real quick. It's 1986, you know, but it's, it's, it's, it's John Carpenter and like, you know, I'm automatically like, all right, sweet. John Carpenter. Let's do this. But like, it's just, yeah, it's one of those movies where it's like, he said, like, does it hold up? It's been a while since I've seen it and I didn't see it until I was older. I think until probably in my twenties and my, my dad saw it and we were, I forget what it was. It was like, I was at home and we were talking about movies or whatever.
01:05:21
Speaker
And it was on, and he's like, oh, you need to watch this. I was like, all right, I've never seen it. I was like, this is fantastic. This has everything that I want in a movie. There's crazy fight scenes, lightning shoot out of people's hands, the one-liners that I love, just everything about that, Kurt Russell, Kim Cattrall. And for me, it's like if you want a snapshot of the 80s, obviously, I don't remember. I was one when the movie came out.
01:05:50
Speaker
But I was like, looking back, I'm like, this seems so 80s. And I mean, I don't know. And I absolutely enjoy most of John Carpenter's works and stuff. So I mean, you have, you know, Halloween, the fog, which is what we're gonna probably watch. So spoiler alert, we're gonna watch that probably right now. I've never heard of the fog. Oh, yeah, so good. I love the fog. And I just watched one recently. I don't think you guys would like it so much, but I enjoyed it was In the Mouth of Madness. It's from 1994.
01:06:20
Speaker
five. Yeah, that one is pretty good. I'm trying to look look look real quick and make sure I'm correct with my like my time frames and stuff. See, Chris has this list of about 50 horror movies that he wants us to watch.
01:06:33
Speaker
I know you guys won't watch in the mouth of madness that was 1994 but like no like I'm totally derailing this whole podcast right now so I'm gonna wrap it up but like the fog is one of like my favorite movies of all time like one it was a movie like my dad introduced me to and it was like I think I've watched it with him like several times like so it's one of those cool things where I think oh watch the fog it's like I'm gonna watch it you know I think of like you know my family and stuff and like my dad and like I mean it was like I
01:07:01
Speaker
The movie was, I think, made in the 70s, 78. And we didn't watch it until once again, I was in my 20s. But he was like, when I was like, you need to watch this. He remembered it, but it's been so long. I remember watching it with him and being like, this movie is just fun. It's not scary. It's just it's a good movie. Oh, yeah, it's not like if you've seen the original Halloween. I mean, that is scary to an extent, but it's not nowadays where everything's so extreme.
01:07:25
Speaker
I mean, it couldn't have been that scary. I mean, Halloween was done before it. That's still creepy, in my opinion, the original Halloween. This one, it's more of like a ghost story in a way. I mean, it's rated R, but there's like zero gore. I mean, it's just because back then it was, you know, there was no PG-13. Obviously we talked about that with Jaws, you know, and this was definitely not a PG movie. Yeah, it's got Jamie Lee Curtis in it and stuff. Yeah. Okay. Anyways, there you go. That's a snapchat. Curtis, not really.
01:07:54
Speaker
I'm all done. While we were going down memory lanes, I think it was relevant. But I guess that's the whole answer is just I was trying to think of a movie that was really nostalgic to me that I thought would hold up. And I was really interested to hear your guys. I think you guys have a pretty diverse taste in movies. I so want to watch Big Trouble in Little Trouble. Like you have no idea how much I'm just like, yes. If we can squeeze it in, I think we should.
01:08:21
Speaker
Well, with all these movies getting pushed back, we were planning on going back and doing their prequels right before the movies come out. We had some time to reassess our list. Social distancing, you have more time to watch movies too, maybe. That's true. That's very true. I've been social distancing for years. This is fantastic.
01:08:42
Speaker
Nikki, I'm glad you recommended it just because it was something I wouldn't have watched on my own. So I appreciate that you did because it was pretty enjoyable. Glad to hear it. So let's let's jump into some of the
01:08:54
Speaker
Crazy trivia that I came across. One thing I thought was hilarious was, according to Rotten Tomatoes, take that with a grain of salt anyway, Clueless is Amy Heckerling's highest rated movie at 80%. And her lowest rated movie is Look Who's Talking Now, granted she just produced that one, which is the third of the Look Who's Talking series, has a score of zero.
01:09:16
Speaker
Wow. I forgot I made a third one. I just remember. It's with the dogs. Dude, I don't even think I've seen it. I don't know if I have either. I remember those movies though. Right. I remember the second one because it had the talking toilet. We've been through this. I did not know they had a third one with talking dogs. I think it was two dogs or maybe it was a dog and a cat. I don't know. But I know there was a dog. This sounds like Homer bound. I think you're a liar. Oh, another good one.
01:09:46
Speaker
Another thing I saw was Alicia Silverstone when she was doing her speech about the Haitians. She pronounced them the Hadeans. And she did that because that's what she thought was actually pronounced. It was not in the script that way. And they left it in there because Amy Hoechling loved it so much. Perfect. How about Sporadicus? Was that intentional?
01:10:17
Speaker
Yeah, the speech thing was pretty funny. That was good. No one told her how to pronounce it. And I think she asked and no one would help her. So she had to keep going. And they kept it from, yeah, the same trivia. I think I read too. Looking at her teacher's space when she said it the first time and he was just like, wait, what?
01:10:35
Speaker
Those speeches were so good, by the way. I guess a couple of them were like a lot longer, but they had to trim them for time. Like, I guess there was one about comparison to like garden chairs at some point. I was just talking about making room and stuff, and it goes on for a while. But for the sake of timing, they had to cut it down quite a bit. Yeah, I heard one of those speeches was actually five minutes. Oh, wow. They trimmed it down like a minute. Well, I think they made a good decision.
01:10:59
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, they were funny, but I don't know if I could watch a five minute monologue on that. That one and then the one where, until mankind can be peaceful enough not to have violence in the news, we shouldn't take it out of shows for entertainment about you. That was
Casting Insights
01:11:18
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awesome.
01:11:18
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So I already talked about Heckerling and the writers sat in classes to see the students in Beverly Hills talk, act with each other. So that was a, was, would have been a fun experiment just to see what it was like. I think she even mentioned that, you know, even in these classes, it's not like these kids dressed this way. They just, you know, very few were going above and beyond just wearing, you know, jeans and a shirt or whatever, but you know, they, they definitely took some, some liberty and had some fun with it and spent a pretty penny on all that, all that wardrobe, but it made for definitely some good entertainment.
01:11:48
Speaker
which is really interesting you talk about spending all the money on the wardrobe and stuff too and I don't know if you came across this trivia because they're supposed to be very wealthy very rich you'd expect you know the budget for the wardrobe in the movie to be like through the roof but from what I read the director was like I want them to think that they appear like having you know they're teenagers you know they want to dress you know super expensive
01:12:08
Speaker
but they really don't. They wanted to be, I don't know how to describe it, but not truly expensive, almost like a faux expensive, like what a teenager would do to make it look good. And I guess the overall budget, I'm going off memory here, so maybe I'm completely incorrect, but it was only like $200,000 for the wardrobe, which is pretty modest. Yeah, it was pretty modest. I think
01:12:28
Speaker
They only had 60 outfits or whatever between I think Cher and Dion and Ty and they rotated a lot through them and stuff and or something of that nature. Oh, wow. Yeah, it was like everyone expected to be like through the roof because it was always supposed to be like, you know, designer wear, you know, la, la, this and that. But it really wasn't. I don't know. I thought that was really interesting. Like what Tim was talking about. Like, yeah, I came across that as I went down the IMDB rabbit hole after I watched it today. Yeah, that's surprising for that movie, especially. I wouldn't have thought that. You got good memory, Chris. It was exactly 200,000 as far as.
01:12:59
Speaker
I mean, in my defense, I read it. I read it this morning. So it wasn't like a while back or I'm like, hell, let me just vaguely remember the word, but it was not even close. I just looked up the dates of Halloween and the fog and I was around on both. Halloween was 76 and the fog was 1980. I mean, I was in the relative ballpark, but still enough.
01:13:28
Speaker
I guess I'll sleep comfortably knowing I've been forgiven. You corrected it before the show was done. Yeah, right. I saved myself. I hit that old IMDB, which is a rabbit hole of its own. People are deleting the emails they were drafting to correct you. This guy doesn't know his shit at all. One of the other things I came across I loved, you probably saw this on IMDB too, but Paul Rudd also auditioned for the role of Murray because he thought that that character was a white teenager that was trying to act with a rabbit.
01:13:59
Speaker
If you think about that character, I'm like, I could totally see a right guy in there pretending to be a rapper. It was just like, yep, I see it. I see the thing about it. Yeah, I see it too. He, if I remember correctly, I think you saw that too Tim. Like he auditioned for a lot of those roles like Murray, but I also think like Travis and Elton Christian, you know, Christian and Elton. Okay. But yeah, there was a, yeah. And then if you go through like that trivia too, a
01:14:26
Speaker
a ton of people were considered for a bunch of those different roles. I think at one point I think I read Reese Witherspoon. Yeah, it was really interesting the amount of people back then. She was considered for share, I think. Yeah, I believe so, yeah.
01:14:41
Speaker
So yeah, Reese Witherspoon for Cher, Terrence Howard for Murray, Jeremy Renner for Christian and Josh, Zoey Deschanel for Amber and Cher, for Travis. Wait, she's that old Zoey Deschanel. I guess I thought she was younger. I thought she was younger too. If you look at the average age of everybody in this movie, they're almost exactly 10 to 11 years older than us.
01:15:06
Speaker
It would put them all at like 19, 20, 21, 22 at that time. Except for Paul Rudd and Dion, who's actually older than Paul Rudd by two years in real life. She was the old side of the entire cast, which is interesting. Yeah, you can't tell. No, you can't at all. Which is, I think she was the only one too, because once again, they grabbed hold. Obviously, they made a clueless TV show after the movie came out for three years. I want to say she was the only- Which I knew, by the way.
01:15:37
Speaker
She was the only cast member, I think, to just continue with her character and role. I don't think anybody else joined the series. I mean, there was cameos, but... Yeah, I only loosely watched it because I was so disappointed that there weren't all the original characters. And also Dion and Murray broke up in the series and I was mad and just...
01:15:58
Speaker
I didn't watch much of the series though. I can't really speak to that much.
90s Culture and Music
01:16:03
Speaker
Stacey Dash. That's the actress that played Dion. Was she in Mo Money Mo Problems or something? She was in Something Else too. That was bigger than 90s I think. I don't know. Whatever. I shouldn't say things without looking it up. She was in Mo Money. She played in 1992. Very good. I'm looking it up right now.
01:16:26
Speaker
Oh, I take that back. No, I was very wrong. Donald Faison took on his roles, Murray. Elisa Donovan, who played Amber, took on that character. I thought Amber was in it. Yeah, I couldn't remember about Murray. I really remember Amber from Sabrina the Teenage Witch TV show. Whatever. Everyone watched it. Don't judge. I love that show with Melissa Joan Hart. Right? Yeah, exactly. I don't remember her in it. She was in it later on, I think, when Sabrina went off to college.
01:16:56
Speaker
Everyone here is silently judging. And you know what? Nikki watched it. I'm still in love with Avril Lavigne. I don't care. Whatever. It was a good show. It was a good show. I mean, I just remember the cat being hilarious. Well, I mean, you like Hocus Pocus, so it all ties in. Very much. I'll give you that. You got a genre.
01:17:22
Speaker
90s Halloween is my genre. Be it teenage, geared, or not, right? Maybe it's because of nostalgia factor.
01:17:37
Speaker
Here's another piece of trivia I thought was funny because it seems like it happens in a lot of those 90s teen movies is have a band to play for whatever reason. And it's only a popular band playing at some high school or whatever, but money, money, boss stones. Yeah. So good, right? Against the music. That's not for what I was looking for.
01:18:00
Speaker
But I'm not really like Scott, so. You know, I'm just gonna say, Chris, your taste in music and your taste in movies is probably not the average in this stuff. What do you get there, Dana? Not bashing, just saying. When you made the face, I'm just like, I'm not surprised by this.
01:18:21
Speaker
I had to look it up at first because I didn't recognize it off the head. And I was like, I know where Tim's going with this. I'm like, yeah, it was. It was the mighty, mighty boss stones, which made me chuckle because I was watching it. And I was like, why is that one guy not playing any instruments or singing? He just was on stage, just like head banging the whole time. That's all he did. He was like the, um, like the amp man. He just wanted to get everyone amped. You know, like I was like, what is going on? But I mean, I don't know. I also liked his stage dive into like,
01:18:51
Speaker
thinking and like the disappointment on his face was that supposed to happen or he just kind of ad-libbed that and everyone was like oh god like oh right
01:19:05
Speaker
I'm sure he just decided to do that and everyone's like, what are you doing? I wasn't bad enough to hold you up and get your ass down. I like Mighty Mighty Boss. Again, 90s music. It fit that soundtrack perfectly. There was a lot of good songs on that soundtrack. In the beginning, No Doubt was on there. I think Counting Crows is on there at some point and stuff.
01:19:23
Speaker
Which I'll have you know, no doubt was originally a ska band, Christopher. I know. You might have to go back on your... I'm going to go throw out my tragic kingdom. Such a good album. I think it was one of the first, like out of the first 10 albums I ever brought was like tragic kingdom. Yup. Mine too. It was a good album. I think Alanis Morissette was my first, but... 311, self title 11, 311, 311.
01:19:52
Speaker
Which is right around, I think it was like 96 when that came out. Mine was the offspring, Smash. I have no room to talk. Well, because it's a great album. Of course it is. I mean, seriously, I've listened to it recently. It still holds up really, really, really, really well. And Dana's first album was what, Lion King? Probably.
01:20:13
Speaker
No, it was not good at all, surprisingly. Yeah, probably. I mean, don't get me wrong, the first album I've ever really truly owned was a cassette tape. Yeah. Are we talking cassette or? When I first saw these two, when I really got into music, I think the first one was like 311, but I did own, I believe the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles went on like a tour, a music tour. Oh yeah. It was like early nineties. And I had a,
01:20:43
Speaker
cassette of like their songs or whatever and obviously it was not even remotely the voice actors or actors that played them in the movies. It was professional singers and stop acting as them.
01:21:01
Speaker
I wish it was. It was weird. I wish I still had it because I'm going off almost 20 years of memory, but I remember like, I think there was a song called Tube and Mo where they talk about skateboarding in the sewers and there was even a song or track with April Neil singing like, Oh yeah. Yeah. I mean, my parents took me to like the concert or whatever. I mean, and then when you're like six or seven, all you want is the plastic nunchucks. I don't really give a shit like what they're doing.
01:21:25
Speaker
Give me the plastic weapons so I can be a badass over here swinging them around and probably like break them by the time I get home because yeah, why not? I'm like seven years old. Oh, that's funny. Wow. I wish I could find that. It's a funny piece of like
Nostalgic Reflections
01:21:40
Speaker
history to me. See, when you go back and watch a movie like Clueless, it's 100% nostalgia. It just brings back everything. Oh, yeah. Agreed. So thanks, Nikki. Yes, it was awesome. Oh, right. Yeah, that's crazy because I mean, we all grew up in that
01:21:55
Speaker
I mean, we're all we were all 10 at that time. So obviously we all remember, you know, growing up in the nineties. So, I mean, what's crazy is that we were talking about earlier, you know, home improvement was already on for a couple of seasons. All right. Yeah. That's why I appreciate your outfit even more is like, like, I just, I really like flannel. Whatever. Winner in Michigan, right?
01:22:22
Speaker
Right. Yeah. I can still get a couple of weeks out of wearing this. I mean, it didn't even hit 60 yet. So to kind of get back on topic.
01:22:31
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there. I don't even know what we do. So clues came out 25 years ago this summer. And unfortunately, with COVID-19, they were supposed to do a rerelease in theaters first week of May, but I think that's got pushed off. And I tried to see if they were actually going to delay it or reschedule it, but no one said anything. So that gets passed up. And also there was a pop up restaurant in LA that was supposed to go up called as if obviously, that was pure clueless theme, everything about it, the
01:23:01
Speaker
decor the menu the food the people working there everything was just going to be representing that movie very hardcore the guys that were putting this on were the same ones that did these special themed restaurants for things like Breaking Bad as well so they they definitely know what they're doing this was supposed to launch in tandem with the 25 year anniversary but this stupid virus has just kind of threw everything off so
01:23:25
Speaker
Keep your eyes open to see if that ever does pop up because I'm sure it'd be worth a trip if you're obsessed with this movie like somebody in this podcast. I just want to like I'm so intrigued on what the menu would be. And gosh, I mean, I'm gonna dig into this. I'm very intrigued. I think I think Danny would be a huge fan of the menu because literally every food item is a clueless pun. Oh, I would love it. That's me. So hopefully that gets rescheduled because I think that'd be a lot of fun to see.
01:23:55
Speaker
Yeah, I did know about the movie being re-released and I was planning on dragging my husband to go see it, for sure. I would think that he would enjoy it. It's a good comedy for whatever the, you know, when the initial, you know, thought is it when you see the cover, you think, oh, you know, okay.
01:24:13
Speaker
Yeah, who's gonna enjoy the guy's not gonna enjoy it's like no you will it's like, you know Don't don't judge it based on the cover. Obviously. It's a it's a good comedy It's a good 90s comedy, you know, and it's all like I think Tim headed on a little bit too You know, there's a lot more there than just you're near your standard. Oh, you know slapstick comedy, you know, it's a lot deeper than that and stuff
01:24:31
Speaker
And it holds up because it's what universal struggles of teenagers, right? So I mean, I mean, yeah, Emma is like the synopsis or like the first like overview is basically is a novel about youthful hubris and romantic misunderstandings. I mean, it's pretty much this movie. Isn't that your life, Chris? Oh! That hurts, son. I didn't say that well. I want social distancing.
01:25:00
Speaker
One of them is going to update my dating apps now. Thanks a lot. Oh, that's funny.
01:25:09
Speaker
Uh, and the last thing I wanted to bring up was there is a book that, uh, came out by, uh, Jen Channey called as if, like I said, it's that phrase of the movie.
'Clueless' Ratings and Availability
01:25:18
Speaker
And she's able to dive into everything about the movie and the making of Clueless. She gets all those special interviews with Amy Heckerling with a lot of the cast and the crew. And if you're interested, it is available on Audible. If you do not have an Audible account, you can go to audibletrial.com slash OSW. You get a free account for a month. You get two free book downloads. This is included in that download, so you can get it for free.
01:25:39
Speaker
Audibletrial.com slash OSW helping you guys out. Get a free book. You help us out so we can keep putting out these episodes. So appreciate that. And so we already did our final rating. So if I go back to that, Chris, you went from a five to a six. You went up one. I went from six to a seven. Up one. Dana, you said the same, right? Stay the same. So Dana's a seven. Nikki went from a nine to a nine point five.
01:26:10
Speaker
With that, I'm going to put your score in for spaz and he's going to deal with it. No, that's gets negative. I'm up as total of score of whatever how this works.
01:26:27
Speaker
So with that, our average rating for this movie is a 7.38. The movie score has gone up 0.63 compared to our pre-watch rating, which is the highest increase of any movie we've done so far. So that's pretty good. Wow. Yeah. That's exciting.
01:26:46
Speaker
So it was a definitely a good listen, good watch, uh, really enjoyed it. Like you said, Nikki, the great soundtrack, a lot of fun. It really, I'd say it definitely does hold up and recommend everybody give it a chance just pure nineties nostalgia and overall a really, really good story. So anyone else have any closing thoughts here? Trying to think of something clever, but
01:27:10
Speaker
I'll let go what you said though pretty much. Give it a shot. Don't base it off the cover of the movie. It's a good movie. I think everyone can enjoy it one way or another. Unless you really dislike comedies, then don't watch it. So maybe the younger generation that didn't go through the 90s, maybe they won't? I don't know. It's weird because you can say that about a lot of things. Obviously, we didn't grow up in the 80s, but we
01:27:38
Speaker
I guess I'm speaking broadly, but you know, most people enjoy the Goonies. Most people enjoy Big Trouble in Little China. Indiana Jones. I mean, but if you're talking about like set pieces, like, you know, like school and stuff, you got, you know, a lot of people, you know, when we were growing up, I think they saw, you know, Fast Times at Richmond High, same director, you know, that was in the 70s. And, you know, it was still, you know, a good movie. I don't know, it's hard, but I see what you're saying, though. So just
01:28:05
Speaker
Regardless, just watch it. Just watch it. Just watch it. You'll thank us later. We haven't gotten to Chris's bad movies yet, so everyone can say safely that you should go watch this. We haven't gotten to that point in time yet. While we're in quarantine, there's plenty of time for it. Exactly. Yeah, fair point. Although it's not free right now on Netflix and stuff like that, which is super irritating to me. I didn't understand.
01:28:33
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Yeah, it's on Amazon right now for $3.99. I don't know if it's on the other ones like 2B and stuff. I didn't check. No, that's fair. But yeah, no, Amazon, Hulu, or excuse me, Netflix, Hulu, I didn't have it. They did. But it is worth the rental. Yes, it is. It's $3.99. Yeah, it's $4. Yeah. All right. So I guess with that, thanks everyone for listening to On Second Watch. Make sure to subscribe and rate us on Apple, Google, Spotify, whatever your favorite podcast catcher is.
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And thanks for having me, it was so much fun to sit down and talk about this with you guys. It was great to talk to you guys. It's been a minute, yeah. It has, I know. So, whatever. I'm glad you joined us, it was really good. Alright, thanks everybody.