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Based on a True Story

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Join us as we Spin The Wheel on the category "Based on a True Story". I think we all learned the dangers of keeping a topic very open ended, and I think we broke Nikki in this episode.


Nikki picked the category, we choose our picks, and fate decides our nostalgia review. Which movie's did we pick and which one are we reviewing next? Listen and find out...


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Transcript

Choosing Films Based on True Stories

00:00:06
Speaker
Welcome to our spin the wheel episode where we each select a movie that fits a preselected category and let fate decide what movie we review next. And the category for this episode was chosen by Nikki and she chose based on a true story, based on a true story, which is very broad, very open to all sorts of genres. This could be interesting.
00:00:23
Speaker
It's time to

Texas Chainsaw Massacre Versions

00:00:27
Speaker
play.
00:00:27
Speaker
So Chris, why don't you kick it off? Oh, I'm going to kick it off. All right.
00:00:34
Speaker
I'm gonna pick that I'm gonna be a whore, which I let slip earlier to everybody else's, uh, unenthusiasm. Keep it up and I'll switch to the Texas Chainsaw. Wait, aren't there more than one version to this movie? Cause I know I saw one in a theater. I am talking about the original one from, I believe 1970.

Amityville Horror Discussion

00:00:55
Speaker
In the seventies. Probably only one from the seventies.
00:00:58
Speaker
Good question, Carrie. All right, so you can get lost, Chris. It's 1979. We're not paying to buy this movie, do we? It's 1979, and it's James Brolin. And hold on, I will go make sure you can stream it. I actually think this is the only one I've seen. I don't think I saw the new one. I saw the one in theaters, like, I don't know, when we were in college-ish. Must have been around that time. I saw the one with Ryan Reynolds. That one takes some serious liberty. Oh, it had Ryan Reynolds. That's how Tim convinced me to go see it, clearly.
00:01:29
Speaker
Let's see. Is this the one? Nope, that's the one with Ryan Reynolds. We can rewatch that one. Can we have some light at the end of the tunnel with this movie, please?

Streaming Challenges for Amityville Horror

00:01:44
Speaker
One of the nightmares? Yes, it is. It's available on... Nope, not Amazon. Uh-oh.
00:01:53
Speaker
How dare you? It's fine. Make it the Ryan Reynolds one. Let's make this win-win. Uh, it says Amazon. I'll keep looking. You guys keep going. All right. We'll circle back. All right.
00:02:12
Speaker
I'll find. All right. Let's go to spaz. What is your pick?

Mixed Reactions to Exorcism of Emily Rose

00:02:17
Speaker
So now fighting between multiple ones. Oh, oh, no. There's an exorcist, which is fantastic. The exorcism of Emily Rose, which is also fantastic. But let's do exorcism in Emily Rose. Oh, come on. Are you serious? Yes. Why I'm hating myself right now. This is such a dumb genre.
00:02:43
Speaker
So many horror movies are doing it. I know. And this is why I don't like them. Those are the ones I don't like. So are sports movies. So I thought people would go with sports movies or like you. You forgot who you forgot who was on this thing or gangster movies. There was a ton of gangster movies on the wheel and there are not right now.
00:03:11
Speaker
You forgot that you were dealing with me in Portrait, though. Yeah. Well, Dan, I didn't think you'd be as bad as Portrait. Yeah. I love those man. Four of them results. Now there's a one in three chance of getting a horror movie. You guys suck. Seriously. You guys suck.
00:03:27
Speaker
Oh, it's not that bad. No. Dana, redeem us. Wait. Also, Dan, can you check to make sure we can stream your stupid movie? I'm not paying. It's us. It's on HBO Max. All right. Thank you. Sorry. And damn, Nikki. You don't want to watch a horror movie. Okay. You leave a genre open for interpretation. You're going to get horror movies. Sorry, Dana. It's like the first thing I

Dana Picks The Revenant

00:03:54
Speaker
found out.
00:03:54
Speaker
If I'm not mistaken, the movie that I'm going to pick, I am almost positive that Chris is a fan of. I can't say anybody else because I don't know if anybody else has seen it. This better not be horror. What are you doing? I don't like other stuff outside of horror. I'm sweating. This is actually a movie that I want to see that I have not seen. It is an Oscar worthy movie. I am going to choose The Revenant.
00:04:22
Speaker
Oh, yeah, because I have not seen it. I've always heard good things about it. And I really want to watch that. So so good. I know I'm not exactly what you guys were looking for still, but it's like this boy, this wheel is awesome this time around. We'll hold on. That's like a suspense one. It's not. I know it was leaning on it. It's Tom Hardy. OK, that's right. Yeah, I've been doing this like a million times. Yeah, yeah. It's really good. Good choice.
00:04:49
Speaker
I think that this was the one that DiCaprio finally got a Best Actor award for, right? I think so. I think this is the one. So, I mean, it's just something, I don't know, I've always wanted to see it, never had a reason to. So, this was a good one to actually pick it for. Solid. I guess we'll go to

Carrie Chooses The Blind Side

00:05:08
Speaker
Carrie. What's your pick for Chris's wheel here? Well, I selected my wheel.
00:05:16
Speaker
Mine now. I'm going to take this very literally and choose the 2003 thriller, The Core. No, I'm just joking. Oh, I'm having a really difficult time picking because a lot of the movies I put on here are like absolute dramas, like absolute dramas. Oh, God. Oh, my gosh. I am going to pick one of my favorite movies of all time. Let's go with The Blind Side. Oh, love it.
00:05:46
Speaker
You can't knock at the feels. You can't knock. I love that movie too. It's one of the few sports movies exactly. I watch Sandra. She drives a bus. Go below 50 miles. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Wrong line. She has a bus full of football players.
00:06:07
Speaker
My pick is I was looking at a lot of these, and you're right, there's a lot of gangster, there's a lot of horror, but I really wanted to find something that's a bit of a drama, a bit of comedy, and I spent a lot of time reading stories and missing a certain actor that passed way too soon. That's Robin Williams, so I'm choosing Patch Adams.
00:06:31
Speaker
Oh, the reaction. I've actually never seen that one. I'm okay with that. I came here to have fun, not the field. This wheel is crazy, Nicky.
00:06:46
Speaker
What was your intention with this wheel? Yeah, once again, it was more gangster in sports. So thank you, Carrie. Got you covered. You should have specified gangster in sport. No, I definitely

Adding Goodfellas to the Wheel

00:07:00
Speaker
wanted to leave it open for interpretation because there's so many good like.
00:07:03
Speaker
I actually recently watched this movie I think I mentioned it last time but you know like eight below right like that's such a good movie and that's the one with Cuba Gooding Jr. right in the dogs no no Paul Walker Paul Walker yeah I was like the race car movie guy
00:07:20
Speaker
Fast and Furious. So yeah, thank you. What's the movie with Cuba Gooden Jr. and the sled dogs and sled dogs? It's literally called sled dogs. No, but I did not pick that. I was actually between Goodfellas and Casino. And I just like, finally I decided Goodfellas if, because I think there are people
00:07:42
Speaker
I'm pretty sure I put it up for the Oscar loser category. And there were some people that hadn't seen it. So it's back on the wheel. But it's good movie. Good movie. Thanks, Dan. That's me. I've never seen it. Oh, my gosh. I have never seen it either. Not a surprise. Wow. Well, Chris, you might. I guess the prep, I would say, is that it is a long movie, but it's freaking awesome. It's worth it.
00:08:08
Speaker
I have no falls as long movies, dances with clothes, directors come. Oh, and there are four hours? Who you bitch about the Bigel Bowski being two hours, so... That's because I didn't like it. Nikki, this is gonna be the first movie you and I like truly disagree on. Ooh, interesting. I know, I know, I'm so sorry. Do you just not like gangster movies? Literally, I hate this movie so much. But yeah, I don't like gangster movies. Do you like casino? No.
00:08:36
Speaker
OK, yeah, it's good. They're good. I just don't like them. I appreciate that. Every time Nikki drops a movie, there's always somebody in this group that's just like, oh, God, really? Poor Nikki, who's like always positive. And it's like this time around, it's Kerry. The Big Lebowski was me. I was just like, oh, cool. The Big Lebowski. Two hours. Great. You read about Armageddon, too, Chris. Really? It's just usually you. You were really mad about Armageddon. Oh, yeah. Fuck Armageddon. Hey, wait. Answer this carefully.
00:09:05
Speaker
Is Armageddon better than the core? I would rather watch Hilary Swank drive that giant tremor robot all the way into the middle of the earth. Oh, wow. Then watch Ben Affleck play with animal crackers. Okay, it's one scene. No. It's Bruce Will, Steve Buscemi.
00:09:25
Speaker
Come on. I like Steve Buscemi. Even on a jet plane. I could watch Steve Buscemi have tea with a little girl in Con Air if I wanted to. But... That sucks. Boom. You know what? That was just uncalled for. Con Air is a gem. Put the border back in the box. Little diamond dog. The bear. Give me the bear.
00:09:54
Speaker
It's the Bonnie. Oh my god, whatever. It sucks so bad. You know what? I'm voting. Nikki's not allowed to be a partisan anymore. Voter off. You've been voted off the other day. Goodbye. Yeah. You guys got to remember that when we've re-reviewed Con Air, we trashed it. See? So. What now? We trashed it out of love. Yeah, sure. We trashed it.
00:10:19
Speaker
We did. I can't believe it's bunny and not bear. That's blowing my mind right now. You guys ready for this?

Exorcism of Emily Rose Selected by Wheel

00:10:26
Speaker
Yeah. Oh God. Exorcism. Exorcism. No, that's my last choice. Good fellas are blindside. Or Revenant. Revenant. Yeah, that's fine too. All right, here we go. Patch Adams sounds depressing. Spin that shit. Spin that shit. Spin that shit. Spin the wheel. Spin the wheel.
00:10:46
Speaker
Spin. Hey, did you find the amnival horse? Yeah, I posted it in Discord. OK. There it is, Chris. Oh, oh, wait. Oh, yes, I go. Oh, dang it. It really works at least. Why do you hate me, Dan? I don't. I like you, Nikki. All right. So I love horror movies. Surprise, surprise. This is one of the this is one of the few movies that still
00:11:13
Speaker
Makes my butt clench. I know. I mean, crap. Can I count this one out? Nikki, Nikki, Nikki. You don't even know. It's a good story. It's only PG-13. It's not overly bad. Nikki had veto power, though. Instead of Mr. Veto. Actually, it does make my butt pucker taste. It's like if someone dropped a warhead in my pants. Yeah, that's how my butt pucker's watching this movie.
00:11:41
Speaker
There's a lot of clenchworthiness to it. Yeah, there is. I own it on DVD. Of course you do. I feel for you, Nikki. All right, Grandpa. Yeah, I also own it. What a great movie.

Analyzing Exorcism of Emily Rose

00:11:54
Speaker
It is a very good movie.
00:11:56
Speaker
You get to see Jennifer Carpenter in one of her first roles. Neat. Neat. Exactly. Oh, my gosh. One, two, three, four, five. So you stop this. The Exorcism of Emily Rose. 2005 American supernatural horror legal drama film directed by Scott Derrickson.
00:12:22
Speaker
Um, this film is loosely based off a story of Annalise Mitchell and follows a self-proclaimed agnostic who acts as defense counsel representing a parish priest accused by the state of negligent homicide after he performed an exorcism. It's actually kind of interesting because I, like, it's one of those few movies. That's why I like it too. Like, yes, it is a horror movie.
00:12:45
Speaker
Yes, but it can be taken different ways. But a lot of it takes place in the courtroom. Yeah, Laura Dern is the agnostic lawyer. I think it's Laura Dern. Yeah, I think you got it right. Yeah. It's interesting. I actually completely forgot that it was loosely based off a true story. So props for Spaz for digging in and finding out it was and putting it on this wheel. Yeah, buddy. I got you. I appreciate you.
00:13:12
Speaker
Because I haven't seen the original Emilyville. Wow, that feels weird. Someone actually appreciating me. Somebody say something bad about me. Dan, screw you for picking this. I was actually waiting for Nikki to be like, you're an anus, Dan. I feel better now. I feel better. Thank you. You're welcome. I know I can always count on you, Nikki.
00:13:35
Speaker
I was actually surprised Carrie didn't get in there first, though. Carrie loves this movie. No, I don't. She says it's her favorite movie. She can't wait to watch it. I literally like this one. I'm just like, oh, God. Spaz, hit us up with your nostalgia. I'm going to give this a nine. Holy shit.
00:13:52
Speaker
A nine, Dan, really a nine for this? Yes, it's just so well written. It's I mean, she's like so damn good in this role, the way she can contort her body, the way she does. Great. And yeah, she just she just does. Can't wait. Possession so well. So neither one of you have seen this.
00:14:14
Speaker
No, I've seen this. This movie is just good. I have not. It's just well written. I like it. There you go. Nine. Boom. So who in this group has not seen it? Everyone, I think, except me and you. No, no. Dana and Nikki, right? I've seen pieces of it because I remember the whole 3 a.m. thing, but that's about it. Great. It's the mockery of the crucifixion. You're going to hate everything so much. You're going to hate this a ton. Yeah.
00:14:41
Speaker
And make sure you watch it in a dark room like I'm going with headphones on okay. I'm watching it at 9 in the morning Like on her phone at church, yeah They'll protect you it's okay. Oh my gosh nothing gonna protect you at 3 a.m.
00:15:00
Speaker
You know what sucks about you saying that is I look at the when it is 3 a.m. I'm

3 AM Fear and its Effects

00:15:04
Speaker
like, nope, it's fine. Everything's fine. And I haven't even seen this movie. I hate you so much right now. Nikki, if you wake up at 3 a.m., make sure the clock goes to 301 before you fall back asleep. Because if you don't, then you have a demon in your house. Apparently, according to this movie. OK, if you smell sulfur demon. Hit us with your score, Chris. So this is one of my favorite horror movies. Hmm.
00:15:30
Speaker
But I don't want to just like immediately go hard in the paint by giving it such a super high score. I want to have room to bring it up if I feel like it after my rewatch.
00:15:42
Speaker
But my gut reaction on what I want to give it off the bat, I'm going to give it an eight because it is. It is one of my favorite horror movies and it is to this day. I love horror movies and it's one of the few that makes me uncomfortable when I watch it. Fucking A. Are you kidding me? We're really going to hate it. Oh my gosh. Just watch it with Tim on a bright sunny day. You'll be fine.
00:16:06
Speaker
His name is definitely gonna watch this movie. He's gonna be like, oh, really? He loves scary movies. I'm totally watching this at like one in the morning. No lights on. It's gonna be awesome. Perfect. For a contrarian viewpoint, Carrie, you've seen this film. What is your nostalgia? Okay. So as much as I make fun of this for liking horror, like I'll watch it. You know, I like some sub genres. Like we've talked about, I like space horror and like sci-fi horror and stuff like that.
00:16:35
Speaker
You know what I don't like is paranormal weird religion horror. It freaks me out so much. I hate it so much. I can't stand it. I remember going to see this movie. I didn't sleep for four days. And you know what? So literally, I want it on paper and give this a negative 25. I'm going to come in with a five because I appreciate it was good for making me feel that way. But I hate this movie so much. So, so much.
00:17:04
Speaker
Wow. You know, it's

Courtroom vs. Horror Elements in the Film

00:17:05
Speaker
funny. Like we all talk about like all this paranormal, like scary shit as I'm sitting downstairs in my basement talking to you guys, suddenly recording. And suddenly for out of no reason whatsoever, my sound bar just turned on like randomly. Shut the fuck up right now. Stop it. Get out of here. He is home, Nicky. I am home. I don't, I don't, I don't want to be home. Stay there and watch this movie by yourself instead of making us watch it.
00:17:28
Speaker
Chris, it's just the guy that used to owned it, because he wants to watch a movie with you. Yeah, man. It was just very creepy, because it doesn't turn on on its own. All of a sudden, it just goes, it just turned on. And then it was like, on. Then it muted itself, and it just says, bye. OK. So what Chris is saying is somebody needs to do a well-dish check on him tomorrow to make sure he's OK. Seriously.
00:17:53
Speaker
We'll have to boot Chris off here before it gets passed through the Zencaster waves. I'm sorry, bud. If I hear anything on Chris, I'm just like, I'll be there in like 40 minutes, Chris. I got you. Appreciate it. In 40 minutes. Don't let the demon possess you yet. You got to fight that possession, man.
00:18:14
Speaker
that was just it was just super strange and very uncomfortable like i'm not gonna lie i feel uncomfortable right now you do this to yourself i don't feel bad for you chris actually dan did it but yeah both of them dan would you have picked that if chris hadn't first picked the amityville horror yeah actually good question
00:18:31
Speaker
If Chris chose this movie, cause I thought it was, might've been the one that he was looking at. Cause I know how much he loves this movie. I probably would have went with The Exorcist. Oh man. Okay. I'd rather watch that though. I would too. Either or The Conjuring. It was either The Exorcist or The Conjuring I would have went with. Oh, I forgot The Conjuring is loosely based on a true story. Oh, God damn it. Well.
00:18:57
Speaker
I'm sorry Nicky, so what would you score this movie as your nostalgia? Just hearing all the lovely things about it. Yeah, I'm with Carrie. I actually some scary like if it's suspenseful scary or any other kind of like I don't
00:19:12
Speaker
It's my least favorite genre, but the one subsect of scary movies that I don't like is any shit to do with demons and kind of crap. Yes, because it's like second level scary. Like I can't sleep scary. Right. So, yeah, I'm giving this a one for my job.
00:19:32
Speaker
I don't expect it to go up. I mean, I guess technically it could if I'm like, OK, I have to give it some credit for being a good movie. But I don't know. I just don't want to watch it at all. So it's a one.
00:19:45
Speaker
Well, if it's don't want to watch it, I would also be a one Nicky, but I do appreciate it is a good horror film because it makes you feel that way. Like this one is really good at that. So that's why, but yeah, I wanted to give it a one too. I shouldn't, which is fair. Yeah. That's, I think that's fair. Carrie poor Nicky and Carrie apparently Dana I'm sure is not too far off that boat.
00:20:09
Speaker
You guys keep mentioning The Exorcist and all that. I actually laughed during that movie because it just didn't hit me. But I may have seen parts of this movie. I'm not sure, 100%. I don't know how I feel about it because I'm not a big fan of horror movies. They usually make me either laugh or
00:20:31
Speaker
I can't get over the graphics in them and just can't do it. So I'm going to go with the four and we'll just see how it goes. I don't know. I don't I have a weak stomach sometimes, too. So I'm I'm not sure what to expect at all. Oh, God. I feel like we could laugh. There's nothing. No, no, it just makes you uncomfortable. You're going to be clenching the whole time. Your stomach's going to be like topsy turf.
00:20:58
Speaker
It definitely makes you think for sure. Yeah. About demons. Yeah. So what we're saying is we should party watch this with Nikki. Oh, I wouldn't watch Nikki the entire time instead of the movie. I'm not going to party watch this with Nikki because I don't want to get yelled at for an hour and a half. Even if I didn't even pick it somehow, this is still my fault. It is now. Yes, it is. Bring the hate.
00:21:26
Speaker
I mean, I almost got Ryan Reynolds with Chris. I mean, not really, but almost. This fucking sucks. You guys, you broke Nikki. I'm not okay with this.
00:21:42
Speaker
Gotta protect her. That's right, you wanted to know how to make it. Break the purity, make me watch a demon movie

Paranormal and Religious Themes in Horror

00:21:49
Speaker
based on a true story. My gosh. That was my goal in life, right? I succeeded. I did bring it on myself, I mean in fairness. I didn't think this genre through. Should have been more specific. Except for horror movies, I should have said. Yes. Without giving too much away, seriously, I'll kidding aside, without giving too much away about this movie,
00:22:11
Speaker
What I do like is it's, is it a horrible thing? Yeah, absolutely. But it's also like Tim said, this is also a court drama because what it's loosely based off of is a scenario that went down where a girl died due to an exorcism and it brings up the
00:22:34
Speaker
The whole battle is, are demons real? Are exorcisms real? Was it worth the life of this girl to do this exorcism? And that's what this whole thing is about. They just twist the story to make it more horror related by having horror elements in there. But for the most part, it's a legal fight. So if anything, if it's any,
00:23:01
Speaker
consolation whatsoever that like it's not just like a hundred percent in the paint horror movie a lot of the movies based off yeah yeah courtroom yeah it's 60 40 yeah yeah so like you'll have a scary scene and it might be spooky but in the next 15 20 minutes or in the court debating said thing so if anything it ebbs and flows like what yeah what Carrie said 60 40
00:23:27
Speaker
Gotcha. So the true story part is probably just the like the whole situation. Yeah. They just make it scary. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm going with. Oh yeah. Well, the whole, yeah, the whole true story is about this girl dying and the whole, and it's actually, yeah, you can look it up. There is some legal battle, something, something for something. And so all right. That's the best court case of all time. Yeah.
00:23:57
Speaker
Yeah, keeping it extra vague. But anyways, that's what the true aspect is as this girl died, you know? And I'm not going to say anything more because it basically ruins the story if I bring up anything more outside of that. It's a court case. I don't think Nikki would care. Yeah, but everybody else do the story so she doesn't have to watch it. You really couldn't ruin this. Yeah.
00:24:17
Speaker
No, it's just about the whole thing. Like, are demons real? Are exorcism real? Was it worth this little, you know, this girl dying? And it's, you hear the priest, you hear counterarguments from, you know, agnostics, you know, from science. And, you know, it wasn't psychological. Was it demon? You know, la da da da da. And that's basically what the whole story is about, with the extra scare factor.

Lack of a Twist in Exorcism of Emily Rose

00:24:37
Speaker
They shouldn't just watch Constantine. I couldn't just, it also just doesn't have like at least a lot of good paranormal horror has like a twist at the end that is like deeply satisfying. You don't even get that with this. No, you don't. That's fantastic. Actually the twist at the end is usually what makes me like not be able to sleep. Usually it's like, Oh, and no closure. Oh, usually it's like, and it was somebody's grandmother, you know, sort of thing. And like, it's like, okay, cool. Like, all right.
00:25:05
Speaker
But yeah, this is just stray horror with core drama. Yeah, it's not. It's just picture, but with demons. Yeah, I want to be prepared. I prepared you for the core. I want Nikki to be prepared for this.

Debating the Film's Quality

00:25:20
Speaker
I'm trying to help prepare you. You're not going to sell the. It's fine. I'll watch it tonight. No big deal. Yeah, don't don't do that. Oh, you should. I might watch a couple of times. You should probably watch it like during the day when it's really
00:25:36
Speaker
So I'll make this quick and easy. I know I've seen parts of this film. I can recall certain scenes, like I said, the 3 a.m. piece and all, but I don't remember anything about it. So I'm just going to come in straight at a five. I don't normally go out of my way to watch horror unless Chris makes me. Wow. Wow. It's just I don't normally I just don't normally go and watch them. So I'm I'm open to it because obviously there's been a lot of
00:26:01
Speaker
Good things said about it and it's got a lot of staying power. So I don't know. We'll see what happens. So with that, our nostalgia score comes out to a 5.3. Let's see what we got on IMDB. As divisive as possible, right? Like that's literally as much as it could be.
00:26:18
Speaker
Yeah, from the highest of highs to the lowest of lows. IMDB says it's a 6.7. I believe it. Yeah. We shall see. So, Nikki, turn on your lights. Spaz, go turn your lights off. Chris, get the cool out of your house and we'll shut off and go check out this film and see who comes back alive.