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Ep 6- The Baby Gear Roast: Hot Takes and Hard Passes
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Motherhood’s favorite products just entered the roast. Grab your coffee (no straw) and join the chaos.
In episode six, we ditch the small talk and dive headfirst into a hilariously unfiltered game of rating postpartum and baby gear—complete with hot takes, strong opinions, and zero hesitation. From baby moccasins to doorway bouncers, lard-based beauty routines to the perils of straws, nothing is safe from our judgment (or our laughter). It’s equal parts chaos, camaraderie, and crunchy mom energy—the perfect mix of wit, honesty, and slightly unhinged storytelling that makes Functionally Feral feel like your favorite late-night chat with friends who aren’t afraid to say exactly what they think.
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Transcript
Intro
Introduction & Game Setup
00:00:51
Natalie Richards
Hello, Felicia.
00:00:53
Felicia Devine
Hi, Natalie.
00:00:54
Natalie Richards
Welcome back for episode six.
00:00:57
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:00:57
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh.
00:00:58
Felicia Devine
Six.
00:00:59
Natalie Richards
We are going to switch it up a little bit today. We're going to play a game.
00:01:03
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:01:06
Felicia Devine
An opinion game.
00:01:08
Natalie Richards
Yes, we're going to rank common, ah I don't know, common postpartum slash baby items.
00:01:17
Felicia Devine
Yeah, postpartum motherhood slash baby items. So like the the new mom era, we're rating items that either were forced upon us or we see in the wild.
00:01:19
Natalie Richards
Yeah, yeah.
00:01:23
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:01:29
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:01:31
Felicia Devine
And we have we each created our own list.
00:01:34
Natalie Richards
Yes. And the other does not know this list.
00:01:36
Felicia Devine
And we don't know what we're going ask each other.
00:01:37
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:01:39
Felicia Devine
Okay. So the rules of the game. The rules of the game are as follows. um We are rating things from zero to 10, correct?
00:01:50
Natalie Richards
Yes. 10 being like the most amazing.
00:01:50
Felicia Devine
Okay, zero. Okay.
00:01:53
Natalie Richards
Yes. Love it. No hesitation whatsoever. Zero is trash.
00:02:00
Felicia Devine
Okay. Zero is is don't recommend.
00:02:04
Natalie Richards
ah Zero out of 10 recommend.
00:02:06
Felicia Devine
You'll never catch me using Okay.
00:02:06
Natalie Richards
Never. Never.
00:02:08
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:02:08
Natalie Richards
And wouldn't ever recommend anyone to use it. Okay.
00:02:11
Felicia Devine
Okay.
Baby Item Reviews
00:02:12
Felicia Devine
And then we will, we are, we are going to share our thoughts on why.
00:02:19
Felicia Devine
Okay. So do you do you want to answer first?
00:02:23
Natalie Richards
ah Sure. Okay.
00:02:24
Felicia Devine
Okay. So I will go first. All right.
00:02:31
Natalie Richards
Just watching your face is so funny. Like a great one's coming. Okay.
00:02:35
Felicia Devine
I'm like trying to decide which one i I'll start easy.
00:02:38
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:02:39
Felicia Devine
Baby shoes. like Like infant shoes.
00:02:43
Natalie Richards
Like infant shoes. Okay.
00:02:46
Felicia Devine
Like they're two months old and they're in shoes.
00:02:46
Natalie Richards
Um, I will, for pure aesthetic purposes, i will give it a one no
00:02:57
Felicia Devine
thought you were to say like six. I was like, Natalie, we can be friends.
00:03:01
Natalie Richards
No,
00:03:03
Felicia Devine
Whoa.
00:03:03
Natalie Richards
no i think bare little piggies, bare piggies.
00:03:07
Felicia Devine
Okay. I didn't even put step in socks.
00:03:09
Natalie Richards
no i never put Jean in socks.
00:03:10
Felicia Devine
Shoes?
00:03:11
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:03:12
Felicia Devine
the la The least of my worries are shoes on an infant.
00:03:17
Natalie Richards
Like infant Nikes.
00:03:18
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:03:20
Natalie Richards
That's all I can think about.
00:03:20
Felicia Devine
No, I'm so sorry. I can't.
00:03:22
Natalie Richards
No.
00:03:23
Felicia Devine
I can't.
00:03:23
Natalie Richards
I barely even put shoes on him once he was walking.
00:03:26
Felicia Devine
I know.
00:03:26
Natalie Richards
It was moccasins only.
00:03:26
Felicia Devine
He owns one pair of shoes.
00:03:31
Natalie Richards
ah Moccasins only.
00:03:32
Felicia Devine
Oh, my God.
00:03:32
Natalie Richards
i like I like a free moving toots.
00:03:36
Felicia Devine
Oh, I have a funny story.
00:03:38
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:03:38
Felicia Devine
so this was like last year, last summer or something. And he was little. On Instagram, I got like an ad that was like, first 100 people to sign up, get these free sock shoes.
00:03:51
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:03:51
Felicia Devine
And I was like, okay. And I had to pay shipping. I had to pay $5 for shipping.
00:03:56
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:03:57
Felicia Devine
And I was like, okay, but it was an Instagram ad. And I bought the, or I got like, I paid $5 for shipping and I signed up for these like sock shoes.
00:03:59
Natalie Richards
Sure.
00:04:04
Felicia Devine
They basically look like a tube sock, but they have like a hard, or not hard, but like a rubber bottom.
00:04:04
Natalie Richards
Sure. I've um bought those for him before. I did
00:04:11
Felicia Devine
They look like gardening gloves for baby's feet.
00:04:12
Natalie Richards
Yes, they that's exactly what it is.
00:04:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:04:16
Natalie Richards
But it's very functional
00:04:18
Felicia Devine
Okay. So then I did that and I was like, okay, like, we'll just like wait. Cause I got him like a toddler size. So it wasn't like I was like waiting for them to come.
00:04:25
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:04:26
Felicia Devine
Natalie, it took like four months and they showed up on my doorstep. I fully thought I got scammed and I was like, well, that business took $5 from me, but they showed up and like, they're so cool.
00:04:38
Felicia Devine
But I mean, there's still, he's 15 months old and they're still too big, but I'm actually kind of excited.
00:04:39
Natalie Richards
How funny. Yeah. There's a, what I found with those is there's a very short window that you can wear them.
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Felicia Devine
oh
00:04:47
Natalie Richards
Cause if they're too big, they don't work.
00:04:49
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:04:49
Natalie Richards
Like they're going to fall off.
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Felicia Devine
No.
00:04:50
Natalie Richards
And then once they're too small, they're too small.
00:04:51
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:04:52
Natalie Richards
So you have like the and tiniest window, but I did like that.
00:04:53
Felicia Devine
Okay. Oh, I got to keep trying them on. on Okay. Okay.
00:05:00
Natalie Richards
I like the concept. I like the concept, but I think they're not like, unless they fit really, really well in that window, they're too unstable for their feet.
00:05:01
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:05:06
Felicia Devine
Yeah. you You know what they remind me of? socks. Aqua socks.
00:05:13
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Oh my God. It's practically an aqua sock.
00:05:16
Felicia Devine
Such a, such an Aqua sock moment.
00:05:18
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:05:19
Felicia Devine
Okay. All right. So you get, ah so baby shoes, infant shoes get a one out of 10 only for aesthetics.
00:05:21
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:05:25
Natalie Richards
Oh, one. Oh, one. Only because if you like had to take a picture in them or something because they're cute, but like only if somebody gifted them to you, I would never buy them.
00:05:31
Felicia Devine
ah But even then.
00:05:36
Felicia Devine
ah
00:05:37
Natalie Richards
No.
00:05:37
Felicia Devine
Okay. Okay.
00:05:39
Natalie Richards
That's a no. Yeah.
00:05:39
Felicia Devine
Glad we're on the same page. Moving on. Okay.
00:05:42
Natalie Richards
Okay. Hi, Jean.
00:05:45
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:05:46
Natalie Richards
Hey, baby. Can you go play with your cars over on the couch, please? Thank you so much, honey. Okay. Okay. We all good still?
00:05:54
Felicia Devine
Yep.
00:05:54
Natalie Richards
Okay. Okay. Do you want me to ask you the next one?
00:05:57
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:05:58
Natalie Richards
Okay. So, oh gosh, what one do I want to start with you? okay We'll start with... Okay. Silverettes.
00:06:08
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh, that's on my list too!
00:06:09
Natalie Richards
Is it really? i figured we would have a
00:06:11
Felicia Devine
ten 10 out of 10 gold stars, fireworks.
00:06:13
Natalie Richards
Yes. Yes. Yes. Everyone needs to buy them before you need them.
00:06:17
Felicia Devine
Those. ah Yes. So you actually bought me my silverettes, I think, didn't you?
00:06:25
Natalie Richards
you bought me You bought me my Silvarets and I also bought you yours.
00:06:26
Felicia Devine
Or I bought you. Yeah, it was like a it was like you do a good thing for me. i pat your back.
00:06:33
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:06:33
Felicia Devine
You pat mine. No. So if you don't know what a silverette is, if you're a listener and you have never heard of a silverette, it's a silver um medallion.
00:06:43
Natalie Richards
like Yeah. Oh, I like, yes.
00:06:45
Felicia Devine
um And then it's in the shape of a nipple and it goes over your nipples.
00:06:46
Natalie Richards
little cup. Yeah. Yeah.
00:06:50
Felicia Devine
And so when you're a nursing mom, you nurse your baby and then you immediately apply the silverette, like a little barrier between you and your like cotton nursing bra.
00:07:00
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:07:01
Felicia Devine
and it protects it. It's chilly. it um The silver is actually like antimicrobial.
00:07:04
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:07:07
Natalie Richards
Yes. It's healing.
00:07:08
Felicia Devine
um I didn't get a single crack. I didn't get a single blister.
00:07:11
Natalie Richards
ye
00:07:12
Felicia Devine
I didn't get a single infection, like anything.
00:07:15
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:07:16
Felicia Devine
I got nothing.
00:07:17
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:07:17
Felicia Devine
um But those Silverettes were on my nipples for, I wore them for nine weeks straight without, my my nipples never saw the air,
00:07:24
Natalie Richards
At the beginning.
00:07:25
Felicia Devine
They, the only things they touched were water and step's mouth. I took showers and then he nursed. And beyond that, they were on me 24 seven.
00:07:34
Natalie Richards
They're an amazing tool.
00:07:36
Felicia Devine
Love.
00:07:36
Natalie Richards
If you want to successfully breastfeed,
00:07:38
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:07:39
Natalie Richards
Thompson Method, third shout out, third shout out, and Silverettes.
00:07:41
Felicia Devine
Thompson method. Sponsor us.
00:07:46
Natalie Richards
That's it.
00:07:46
Felicia Devine
Sponsor us. Nike, Nike, do not sponsor us.
00:07:50
Natalie Richards
No, we don't need you.
00:07:51
Felicia Devine
We don't need you. We don't need you in your baby Jordans. Okay. Yes. so
00:07:56
Natalie Richards
Oh, Lord.
00:07:58
Felicia Devine
What, so how do you feel about Soberettes?
00:08:00
Natalie Richards
I love them.
00:08:01
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:08:01
Natalie Richards
Absolutely. 10 of 10. It's on my list of things that I give to my new, my moms.
00:08:02
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:08:06
Felicia Devine
then
00:08:07
Natalie Richards
Um, just saying like, please get these before you need them.
00:08:11
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:08:11
Natalie Richards
Worst case scenario, keep them in the box and return them later if you never use them.
00:08:14
Felicia Devine
Right. Right.
00:08:15
Natalie Richards
But when you need them, you need them ASAP.
00:08:18
Felicia Devine
Immediately. Yes. you mean You need them three minutes ago.
00:08:19
Natalie Richards
Like absolutely. and Yes.
00:08:22
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:08:23
Natalie Richards
So no,
00:08:23
Felicia Devine
And that they really don't take up a lot of space. Like a lot of these like postpartum things that people recommend are like these clunky big things.
00:08:30
Natalie Richards
u And you use them for two seconds.
00:08:32
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:08:33
Natalie Richards
And yes, I ended up needing them later on too.
00:08:33
Felicia Devine
A silver eye, you could put it in your back pocket.
00:08:38
Felicia Devine
Oh yeah.
00:08:38
Natalie Richards
So I used them more at the end when he started biting me and I had like lacerations.
00:08:39
Felicia Devine
When he got teeth.
00:08:43
Natalie Richards
so So I wore them for like three months straight at the end because there was no other way.
00:08:47
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:08:50
Natalie Richards
Then I started getting a reaction to those too. So I had stop.
00:08:52
Felicia Devine
Oh, geez.
00:08:53
Natalie Richards
It was like an excessive amount of use, so but they're they're amazing.
00:08:55
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:08:58
Natalie Richards
So yes, 10 out of 10.
00:08:58
Felicia Devine
Good. Great. Okay.
00:08:59
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:08:59
Felicia Devine
10 out of 10. All right. I'm next.
00:09:02
Natalie Richards
hu
00:09:03
Felicia Devine
Pregnancy pillows.
00:09:05
Natalie Richards
Oh, that's a hard one. um I'll give them like solid
Reflecting on the Game & Personal Stories
00:09:13
Natalie Richards
six.
00:09:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:09:15
Natalie Richards
I think a six is fine because I think some people love them.
00:09:19
Felicia Devine
Yeah. who
00:09:20
Natalie Richards
and need them to sleep.
00:09:22
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:09:22
Natalie Richards
However, I will say they need them to sleep because they're so worried about sleeping on their side and not, yeah.
00:09:26
Felicia Devine
did They really need a chiropractor.
00:09:29
Natalie Richards
And like, and that's the only way that they can feel comfortable sleeping on their side when they probably would be okay just sleeping on their back for a little bit longer.
00:09:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:09:39
Felicia Devine
and
00:09:39
Natalie Richards
But that's like totally ah by a personal thing.
00:09:42
Felicia Devine
Personal thing.
00:09:43
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:09:43
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:09:44
Natalie Richards
um
00:09:44
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:09:45
Natalie Richards
So i I'm okay with them if it helps you sleep.
00:09:49
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:09:50
Natalie Richards
But ah they're not they're not monumental.
00:09:50
Felicia Devine
I never found one I liked.
00:09:53
Natalie Richards
Like, they're it's just not going to be.
00:09:53
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I think it's, um I think it's, It's fine for a little bit, but like you're not going to use it a ton.
00:09:59
Natalie Richards
Yeah. No.
00:10:01
Felicia Devine
But then I don't know.
00:10:01
Natalie Richards
I think I used it a little postpartum, too, actually.
00:10:02
Felicia Devine
I guess postpartum. I think i think people use them postpartum.
00:10:05
Natalie Richards
Yeah. More so, probably.
00:10:07
Felicia Devine
I would be inclined to try one of those huge ones that like is like 18 feet long.
00:10:07
Natalie Richards
Yeah. That's what I had. I had the big U one.
00:10:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:10:14
Natalie Richards
That one actually was kind of nice, but I used it maybe for two days while pregnant and I used it definitely to like prop me up in bed after.
00:10:16
Felicia Devine
Was it?
00:10:19
Felicia Devine
hu Yeah.
00:10:24
Felicia Devine
Postpartum.
00:10:24
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:10:25
Felicia Devine
We only had a queen size bed.
00:10:25
Natalie Richards
So yeah, it, that's the problem is it's so bulky.
00:10:27
Felicia Devine
So like I wasn't dealing with a lot of real estate.
00:10:31
Natalie Richards
So I don't know that I really, you don't need it.
00:10:31
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:10:35
Natalie Richards
It is not something that you need.
00:10:35
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:10:37
Natalie Richards
No.
00:10:38
Felicia Devine
and
00:10:38
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:10:38
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:10:39
Natalie Richards
think, yeah, solid like like five, six.
00:10:42
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:10:42
Natalie Richards
Fine. Okay. um I'm curious what you have to say about this one.
00:10:48
Natalie Richards
um Well, I know what you're going to say about this one, but swaddles.
00:10:54
Felicia Devine
Ah! That's all on my list. Natalie, did you and I write the same list?
00:10:56
Natalie Richards
Shoot. Gosh, darn it.
00:10:59
Felicia Devine
Literally the same list.
00:10:59
Natalie Richards
We just know the controversial things.
00:11:01
Felicia Devine
like ah We just know what each other likes and doesn't like. Okay.
00:11:05
Natalie Richards
Honey bunny.
00:11:06
Felicia Devine
You... Okay. I'm going to give it... going to give it a zero out of ten.
00:11:13
Natalie Richards
I think I would probably agree.
00:11:13
Felicia Devine
I'm anti-swaddle.
00:11:14
Natalie Richards
I'm totally anti-swaddle.
00:11:16
Felicia Devine
I'm anti-swaddle. And, like, if you choose to swaddle your child, that is your prerogative. Like, you can give it a ten out of ten.
00:11:22
Natalie Richards
Yes, fine.
00:11:23
Felicia Devine
My opinion, my child, zero to 10.
00:11:26
Natalie Richards
Zero. Also because Jean hated them.
00:11:29
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:11:30
Natalie Richards
Hated them.
00:11:32
Felicia Devine
The only time we like quote unquote tried to swaddle was for his newborn photo shoot to try and get like that cutesy photo.
00:11:36
Natalie Richards
Yes. Yes.
00:11:38
Felicia Devine
couldn't have, he said not today.
00:11:40
Natalie Richards
That was actually the only time Jean actually liked it.
00:11:42
Felicia Devine
Oh, Seth was so furious.
00:11:44
Natalie Richards
i Jeannie, you want to sit on my lap, honey?
00:11:48
Felicia Devine
Jean, come join us.
00:11:49
Natalie Richards
you want to come join us?
00:11:49
Felicia Devine
um Yeah, I couldn't have been i couldn' have been in the mood. like We were not swaddling.
00:11:55
Natalie Richards
Yeah. No. i a i There's a lot of opinions out there about swaddles, of course.
00:12:01
Felicia Devine
Yeah. it's almost
00:12:02
Natalie Richards
if you
00:12:03
Felicia Devine
Swaddles are almost political.
00:12:05
Natalie Richards
ah They kind of are because if you follow the
00:12:06
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:12:09
Natalie Richards
the baby sleep trends that are, oh man, there's a hole that's a whole rabbit hole to go down.
00:12:10
Felicia Devine
Yes. Oh, wait. We could have had our own list on that.
00:12:15
Natalie Richards
Oh God, whole rabbit hole.
00:12:17
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:12:18
Natalie Richards
um If you follow the sleep courses and the things that everybody recommends you do, it's like pacifier in the mouth, swaddle,
00:12:23
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:12:29
Natalie Richards
Shushers sound machine.
00:12:30
Felicia Devine
On their back.
00:12:31
Natalie Richards
on a i just – I couldn't get behind and that. And it also just didn't work for Gene.
00:12:35
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:12:37
Natalie Richards
So don't know. I think in those cases, people use the swaddle. It works for them. But then they have to get them out of it once they start –
00:12:45
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:12:48
Natalie Richards
turning once they start rolling over because then it's like not safe at all.
00:12:49
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Yeah, they actually become dangerous. Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:53
Natalie Richards
It's extremely dangerous.
00:12:55
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:12:55
Natalie Richards
The other side of it from a chiropractic perspective, which you also know, is that it creates a retained startle reflex, which is really not good for brain development in any way and milestone development and coordination and everything.
00:12:55
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:13:03
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:13:06
Felicia Devine
No. No. Or coordination. Yeah.
00:13:10
Natalie Richards
So I'm a no-go.
00:13:10
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:13:11
Natalie Richards
If you have to do it, be done with them by six weeks.
00:13:15
Felicia Devine
Oh, yeah. Certainly.
00:13:18
Natalie Richards
Before, if
00:13:18
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, like I said, my opinion, zero to 10, if you're choosing to swaddle, that's, that's on you and your family and you you can make your own decisions, but that's, that's the beauty of it.
00:13:28
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:13:31
Felicia Devine
I am like pro choice and decision-making for your family.
00:13:35
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:13:36
Felicia Devine
Do what works for you.
00:13:37
Natalie Richards
Correct.
00:13:38
Felicia Devine
Swaddles weren't it for us.
00:13:39
Natalie Richards
Correct. Yep.
00:13:41
Felicia Devine
Okay. Wait, did you ask me that? Or did I ask you that?
00:13:44
Natalie Richards
i asked I asked you that.
00:13:44
Felicia Devine
Cause it's on my list. You asked me that. Okay. This is really funny. Cause we have like very similar lists.
00:13:49
Natalie Richards
ah huh i had a feeling that was going to happen.
00:13:51
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:13:54
Felicia Devine
Okay. Adult diapers.
00:13:57
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:13:59
Natalie Richards
There are so many products out there.
00:14:02
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:14:03
Natalie Richards
Okay. Adult diapers. um Gosh. I mean, i think like probably when you need them, probably a seven. don't know.
00:14:14
Natalie Richards
If
00:14:18
Natalie Richards
you need that thing.
00:14:18
Felicia Devine
Wait, what did you wear postpartum?
00:14:22
Natalie Richards
I did. god
00:14:25
Felicia Devine
You need them probably a seven.
00:14:27
Natalie Richards
the seven. I mean, everyone needs something.
00:14:30
Felicia Devine
Oh my God.
00:14:30
Natalie Richards
I'm just trying to think of all the different things I had.
00:14:30
Felicia Devine
I love it.
00:14:33
Felicia Devine
um my God.
00:14:33
Natalie Richards
i
00:14:33
Felicia Devine
I was making seven course meal in my diaper.
00:14:37
Natalie Richards
Oh, for for sure.
00:14:38
Felicia Devine
um my God.
00:14:38
Natalie Richards
I mean, I wore them to work when I went back.
00:14:38
Felicia Devine
It was the foam and the gel. and
00:14:41
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:14:41
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:14:41
Natalie Richards
Or it was just the whatever. the um i just wore pads when I went back to work. But I'm thinking i only i don't I didn't wear the diapers for that long.
00:14:46
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:14:52
Felicia Devine
Oh, girl, I was buying them in bulk.
00:14:55
Natalie Richards
Oh
00:14:57
Felicia Devine
I couldn't
Baking Adventures
00:14:57
Felicia Devine
have loved a diaper more. I said, why aren't all why isn't underwear this comfortable?
00:14:58
Natalie Richards
God.
00:15:01
Natalie Richards
You know what I liked better? i liked the the Frida Mom gray little shorts.
00:15:03
Felicia Devine
What?
00:15:06
Felicia Devine
Oh, disposable underwear? um
00:15:10
Natalie Richards
I loved those with a big thick old pad in them.
00:15:13
Felicia Devine
Oh, see, people love those.
00:15:15
Natalie Richards
I love them.
00:15:15
Felicia Devine
I didn't like mine. I tried them. I think I tried like one on. And then I said, it's the diapers.
00:15:21
Natalie Richards
The diapers are the winner.
00:15:21
Felicia Devine
They're pre-made.
00:15:22
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:15:23
Felicia Devine
They're pre-made.
00:15:24
Natalie Richards
I know. i
00:15:24
Felicia Devine
It's an all-in-one.
00:15:24
Natalie Richards
had a few. wore them for the first few days.
00:15:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:15:27
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:15:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:15:28
Natalie Richards
But yes, of course. I mean, they're necessary.
00:15:29
Felicia Devine
Oh, I i think I bought like, no joke.
00:15:29
Natalie Richards
That necessary item.
00:15:33
Felicia Devine
They come in, I think in like packs of 30. I think I bought like three packs of 30. Like we just kept ah rebuying them because I was like, I love them.
00:15:37
Natalie Richards
Because you just... i understand because it's convenient.
00:15:41
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And I also bled for like, I was bleeding for like six weeks.
00:15:41
Natalie Richards
And if... Oh, yeah. For sure. I was too.
00:15:45
Felicia Devine
So I was like, why do more work when I could just wear a diaper?
00:15:45
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay. I appreciate that.
00:15:50
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:51
Natalie Richards
Good.
00:15:51
Felicia Devine
Oh my God. That's so funny. You're like, when, when you need them, they're amazing.
00:15:54
Natalie Richards
yeah me They're amazing. Yeah.
00:15:59
Felicia Devine
I also just like, with all of my issues, i was like, I couldn't be bothered to be doing more work.
00:16:05
Natalie Richards
That is true. I mean, you had way more happening in that region than I did for sure.
00:16:08
Felicia Devine
Hmm. Hmm.
00:16:11
Felicia Devine
Oh, I think I'm going to rebuy them before I have my next baby just to have them on hand.
00:16:12
Natalie Richards
So I understand.
00:16:18
Natalie Richards
Just for peace of mind.
00:16:18
Felicia Devine
Cause they're lovely.
00:16:20
Natalie Richards
That's
00:16:20
Felicia Devine
Yeah. We were getting them like delivered in.
00:16:24
Natalie Richards
amazing. Okay. Next one.
00:16:27
Felicia Devine
Okay. Next item.
00:16:28
Natalie Richards
um The arty pop carrier.
00:16:35
Felicia Devine
Yes. Okay. Also, this is also on my list. I think, do we have a shared note?
00:16:39
Natalie Richards
Stop.
00:16:42
Felicia Devine
How do we have the same list?
00:16:42
Natalie Richards
I don't know because we have the same brain.
00:16:43
Felicia Devine
That's actually crazy.
00:16:45
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:16:45
Felicia Devine
That's crazy.
00:16:45
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:16:46
Felicia Devine
Okay. Some may, might hate me for this. I'm going to give it an eight out of 10.
00:16:53
Natalie Richards
I think that's fine. Fair.
00:16:54
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:16:55
Natalie Richards
Fair. I never had one.
00:16:55
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Oh,
00:16:57
Natalie Richards
But I do think they are very functional.
00:17:02
Felicia Devine
very functional.
00:17:03
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:17:03
Felicia Devine
I have a bone.
00:17:03
Natalie Richards
Very comfortable.
00:17:04
Felicia Devine
I have a bone to pick with them.
00:17:05
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:17:07
Felicia Devine
The back strap,
Dental Discussions
00:17:08
Felicia Devine
like the low back strap.
00:17:09
Natalie Richards
Uh-huh.
00:17:11
Felicia Devine
It needs another layer of fabric on the low back part and it would make it more comfortable.
00:17:14
Natalie Richards
Uh-huh.
00:17:16
Felicia Devine
So I i love the Wild Bird carriers because they have that low back fabric that disperses a lot of the pressure.
00:17:16
Natalie Richards
Uh-huh.
00:17:19
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:17:23
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:25
Felicia Devine
But the Artipop, so soft.
00:17:27
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:17:28
Felicia Devine
So breathable, so lightweight.
00:17:29
Natalie Richards
Easy to
00:17:29
Felicia Devine
The shoulder straps, 10 out of 10.
00:17:32
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:17:33
Felicia Devine
And I'm not going to lie. They're cute.
00:17:36
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:17:36
Felicia Devine
They're so cute. And so i have one, but I got a secondhand, so it was a little cheaper.
00:17:41
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:17:41
Felicia Devine
But I have purchased one as a gift because I actually think they're worth it.
00:17:46
Natalie Richards
that they're worth it. Okay. They, I've actually never worn one.
00:17:50
Felicia Devine
ah Oh, ooh.
00:17:50
Natalie Richards
They have the crossing back, right? Like you have to cross it over and clip it.
00:17:54
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:17:56
Natalie Richards
See, I never liked those because I liked the ones that had two separate, separate like shoulder, kind of like backpack straps.
00:18:03
Felicia Devine
Like backpack straps? Then how did you keep them on? I feel like they slide off my shoulder.
00:18:08
Natalie Richards
I just, i I don't know. I just like forced myself to keep my shoulders back and maybe my shoulders are broad enough that they did.
00:18:11
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:18:13
Felicia Devine
Like. Oh.
00:18:15
Natalie Richards
They just didn't slide off.
00:18:17
Felicia Devine
Okay.
Lifestyle Changes & Straw Usage
00:18:17
Natalie Richards
And I hard, I'd never even had to like buckle the clip in the back because they just stayed on.
00:18:21
Felicia Devine
Oh, okay. Okay.
00:18:23
Natalie Richards
So for me, I liked that.
00:18:23
Felicia Devine
Yeah. It was more comfortable. I like the crossing because Artie Pop, they're so like pliable and thin. You can't even tell they're crossed.
00:18:32
Natalie Richards
yeah That's nice.
00:18:34
Felicia Devine
And they don't ride up your neck.
00:18:36
Natalie Richards
That's nice because that's a problem with a lot of them.
00:18:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Because a lot of the ones that cross, they like choke you.
00:18:40
Natalie Richards
h
00:18:40
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So honestly, Artie Pop, 8 out of 10.
00:18:42
Natalie Richards
Love it. I think that's fair enough.
00:18:43
Felicia Devine
The only downside is like it's a pricey thing. And I mean, it's yeah true.
00:18:46
Natalie Richards
Okay. But these days they all are.
00:18:49
Felicia Devine
True.
00:18:50
Natalie Richards
They all are. Okay.
00:18:51
Felicia Devine
And if you could get like, yeah.
00:18:51
Natalie Richards
So you're paying another hundred dollars. I don't know.
00:18:54
Felicia Devine
I mean, I think Artie Pop sells like, they have like some like very fancy cashmere ones for like $4,000.
00:19:01
Natalie Richards
ah Yes, they do.
00:19:02
Felicia Devine
don't, I don't support it or endorse that until they sponsor me.
00:19:03
Natalie Richards
no Not recommending. Zero out of 10. Zero out of 10.
00:19:09
Felicia Devine
Until, until they're putting money into my bank account, I cannot endorse that.
00:19:11
Natalie Richards
Can you you imagine how hot you would be? i was like a furnace.
00:19:20
Felicia Devine
I thought you were going to say, can you imagine how broke you would be? Yes, I can.
00:19:23
Natalie Richards
Well, that's that too. Oh my gosh. A cashmere.
00:19:25
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:19:26
Natalie Richards
I mean, I couldn't i wouldn't be able to breathe.
00:19:28
Felicia Devine
They make like really fancy ones.
00:19:30
Natalie Richards
I know they do. It's it's insane.
00:19:31
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:32
Natalie Richards
um I don't think you need that. I think you can find them secondhand. But also that is one item ah of high quality baby carrier.
00:19:41
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:19:42
Natalie Richards
That's the one item that you will be using day in and day out if you are mothering the way that we recommend mothering.
00:19:46
Felicia Devine
Long term.
00:19:50
Felicia Devine
Yeah, probably.
00:19:52
Natalie Richards
but Because like for a long time.
00:19:53
Felicia Devine
Yes. Mm-hmm.
00:19:55
Natalie Richards
So cost per wear, very low.
00:19:57
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:19:58
Natalie Richards
Cost per use on a $300 bassinet, not a good idea.
00:20:05
Felicia Devine
Recommended?
00:20:08
Natalie Richards
Anyway, just saying. Okay.
00:20:09
Felicia Devine
Oh, my gosh. Okay. Next item. The Duna car seat.
00:20:17
Natalie Richards
no Oh, Lord. have to rate that one. Oh, i'll give it
00:20:22
Felicia Devine
Would you or would you not?
00:20:23
Natalie Richards
I'll give it a three.
00:20:25
Felicia Devine
Really?
00:20:26
Natalie Richards
Yeah, I'll give it a three.
00:20:27
Felicia Devine
Why?
00:20:29
Natalie Richards
Because it forces you to never remove your baby from the seat.
00:20:35
Felicia Devine
True. oh my gosh. I didn't even think of that.
00:20:38
Natalie Richards
So you they never have to move.
00:20:40
Felicia Devine
Oh my goodness.
00:20:41
Natalie Richards
So they're literally just like there.
00:20:42
Felicia Devine
Okay. I agree. i didn't even, that was not on top of my mind.
00:20:46
Natalie Richards
so
00:20:48
Natalie Richards
I think convenience-wise, from like not a chiropractor's perspective, oh my gosh, saving grace to to motherhood.
00:20:50
Felicia Devine
Convenience.
00:20:53
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:20:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:58
Natalie Richards
But from a baby container perspective, it's really bad.
00:21:00
Felicia Devine
ah It's so true.
00:21:03
Natalie Richards
I mean, those babies could be in there for four or five hours.
00:21:05
Felicia Devine
Ours.
00:21:06
Natalie Richards
I mean, hours until, okay, you have to change their diaper and then you put them right back in.
00:21:11
Felicia Devine
Natalie, I didn't even think of that.
00:21:12
Natalie Richards
No good.
00:21:13
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:21:13
Natalie Richards
So much different than like baby wearing where you're forced.
00:21:15
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:21:16
Natalie Richards
I know people who won't even, they don't even buy the infant car seats.
00:21:21
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:21:21
Natalie Richards
They buy a convertible car seat that forces them to take their baby out of the car when you're not in the car.
00:21:26
Felicia Devine
They can't even take their car seat out.
00:21:28
Natalie Richards
Mm-mm.
00:21:29
Felicia Devine
Whoa.
00:21:30
Natalie Richards
because that same reason that, okay, they fell asleep in the car.
00:21:32
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:21:34
Natalie Richards
Okay. I'm just going to transfer the sleep into the carrier.
00:21:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:21:38
Natalie Richards
ah That's a little extreme for me, but, but yes, yes.
00:21:40
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I like a happy medium. I mean, Sep hated his car seat and still like, isn't a fan of it.
00:21:44
Natalie Richards
In general. Yeah.
00:21:46
Felicia Devine
So I don't know. I mean, he would not have been a Duna baby.
00:21:50
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:21:51
Felicia Devine
I would have loved to have a Duna baby and I could just pushed that thing around.
00:21:53
Natalie Richards
To have a tuna baby. And man, some kids really are that way.
00:21:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:21:57
Natalie Richards
Goodness. Wouldn't that be great?
00:21:58
Felicia Devine
But that was more of like a selfish thing, like carrying a car seat versus like a car seat with wheels.
00:22:01
Natalie Richards
Right. So like, right.
00:22:03
Felicia Devine
Love that.
00:22:04
Natalie Richards
From a mother perspective, amazing.
00:22:06
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:22:06
Natalie Richards
And if you have to do that again, please make those decisions for yourself.
00:22:07
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:22:10
Felicia Devine
This is episode six controversy.
00:22:13
Natalie Richards
Just understand that
Influence of Podcasts & Lifestyle Choices
00:22:15
Natalie Richards
from a movement perspective and and getting that baby out of a container, it's a bad it bad news.
00:22:17
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Ah, you're right.
00:22:23
Felicia Devine
You're right. You're right.
00:22:24
Natalie Richards
Bad news.
00:22:24
Felicia Devine
I hear you there. Okay.
00:22:25
Natalie Richards
and Okay. So it's hot take, but three.
00:22:27
Felicia Devine
Hot take.
00:22:28
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:22:30
Natalie Richards
Three out of ten. Okay. um
00:22:38
Natalie Richards
Okay. ah Plastic baby bottles.
00:22:45
Felicia Devine
Do they make those still?
00:22:46
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:22:47
Felicia Devine
No. Zero out 10.
00:22:49
Natalie Richards
Zero. Zero.
00:22:50
Felicia Devine
Zero. Your baby should not be consuming anything out of plastic.
00:22:56
Natalie Richards
No.
00:22:56
Felicia Devine
Goodbye, goodnight.
00:22:57
Natalie Richards
Okay. I'm going to be devil devil's advocate for just a second because i i only know what people are going to think about this.
00:22:58
Felicia Devine
What?
00:23:06
Natalie Richards
I think it must have been Lead Safe Mama or something. Somebody came out and was like, oh my God, your glass – no, that your glass baby bottles are filled with lead and it's like all this stuff.
00:23:10
Felicia Devine
Now plastic's healthy pay for you?
00:23:15
Felicia Devine
Oh, they are?
00:23:15
Natalie Richards
And it's like, I don't have a clue. I don't know.
00:23:18
Felicia Devine
So are Stanleys.
00:23:18
Natalie Richards
It's better than – so is everything. So go do a go do a heavy metal cleanse.
00:23:21
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:23:23
Natalie Richards
It's easier than getting plastic out of your system.
00:23:24
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:23:27
Felicia Devine
Lead comes out easier than plastic.
00:23:28
Natalie Richards
you
00:23:31
Felicia Devine
Plastics are forever.
00:23:31
Natalie Richards
The plastic that you're literally heating up and putting warm liquid into, and sometimes even boiling liquid that then they recommend just cooling down before you give it to your baby.
00:23:32
Felicia Devine
Lead is just temporary.
00:23:45
Felicia Devine
and then you you boil it to sterilize it.
00:23:45
Natalie Richards
Like what? You boil it to sterilize it
00:23:47
Felicia Devine
So you're...
00:23:49
Natalie Richards
um Like that's a hard no.
00:23:52
Felicia Devine
I can't. I didn't even know they made those anymore.
00:23:54
Natalie Richards
Oh my God. Yes. It's like the 90% of the market.
00:23:58
Felicia Devine
Oh, see, we, I exclusively breastfed.
00:23:59
Natalie Richards
huh
00:24:01
Felicia Devine
And then we did, um, a silicone bottle when we like needed to have him take like a top off or anything.
00:24:04
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah. Something.
00:24:08
Felicia Devine
Or like if I leave the house for ah couple hours, um, what's so funny though, is we have two, have two bottles.
00:24:09
Natalie Richards
Right. Right. Yeah. Silicone, glass, whatever.
00:24:16
Natalie Richards
I did too. I only had, I only ever owned two.
00:24:19
Felicia Devine
I own two bottles and they're four ounce bottles. They're literally for like baby infants. Like, like today we left to go golfing and my mother-in-law had a little baby infant four ounce bottle for him.
00:24:24
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:24:30
Felicia Devine
i like, I even heard like you're supposed to change the nipple flow.
00:24:34
Natalie Richards
Yeah. At the beginning, like a preemie, I honestly, I think you could use a preemie nipple the whole time because it just, yeah, no, no.
00:24:35
Felicia Devine
ah How? I wouldn't even know.
00:24:40
Felicia Devine
Sep would have no idea. He has no idea. They're all the same because he gets one, one type of bottle. It has one type of flow and it's probably the hardest thing to suck out of.
00:24:51
Natalie Richards
And that's okay. that that's That's like normal.
00:24:52
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Because I don't want him to love it. Yeah. If he, if he loves it, then we're in trouble.
00:24:56
Natalie Richards
No, you should always start with the lowest flow and probably stay there forever.
00:24:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So my, my take on plastic.
00:25:02
Natalie Richards
but that is our privilege that we were able to breastfeed and that's amazing.
00:25:07
Felicia Devine
Yeah, that is, that is true.
00:25:07
Natalie Richards
But if you are bottle feeding, use a dang glass bottle or a silicone bottle.
00:25:13
Felicia Devine
Or silicone bottle.
00:25:15
Natalie Richards
Do not, please, God, please don't use plastic.
00:25:19
Felicia Devine
I didn't, I truly was like, that's crazy.
00:25:22
Natalie Richards
o And I think people just use plastic because that's what everybody uses.
00:25:23
Felicia Devine
Plastic.
00:25:26
Natalie Richards
It's just what you do. And people really like those.
00:25:29
Felicia Devine
Huh.
00:25:29
Natalie Richards
day I don't even know what they are. The Dr.
00:25:31
Felicia Devine
Bronners.
00:25:31
Natalie Richards
Brown. Yeah. The Dr.
00:25:32
Felicia Devine
Oh, browns.
00:25:33
Natalie Richards
Brown's or whatever, but they have glass ones.
00:25:34
Felicia Devine
But they make glass.
00:25:35
Natalie Richards
Yes, they do.
00:25:36
Felicia Devine
Everyone I know that uses those is glass.
00:25:36
Natalie Richards
So there is, there is no, the Phillips Avent, those, they have glass ones.
00:25:40
Felicia Devine
Glass.
00:25:41
Natalie Richards
There's no excuse. Okay.
00:25:44
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:25:44
Natalie Richards
That's,
00:25:46
Felicia Devine
Wow. Triggering.
00:25:47
Natalie Richards
oh God. Okay. I think it's your turn.
00:25:50
Felicia Devine
Okay. Okay.
00:25:52
Natalie Richards
Let's just do one more.
00:25:52
Felicia Devine
Let's. Yeah. Okay.
00:25:59
Felicia Devine
The doorway baby bouncer.
00:26:02
Natalie Richards
Oh, Lord.
00:26:03
Felicia Devine
I don't even, again, do they make these anymore? I don't even know how many recalls.
00:26:06
Natalie Richards
They do. They do. I just i just saw a video of somebody's baby in these things.
00:26:11
Felicia Devine
No. Okay.
00:26:13
Natalie Richards
um I thought they were literally banned like so many years ago.
00:26:15
Felicia Devine
ah Illegal. They're illegal.
00:26:20
Felicia Devine
They should be illegal.
00:26:21
Natalie Richards
All I can think of, do you remember spinal anatomy class, year, trimester one, or no, what?
00:26:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:30
Natalie Richards
Trimester two? Trimester two of chiropractic school.
00:26:32
Felicia Devine
Two.
00:26:34
Natalie Richards
Mr. Mortar, okay, we're sitting in the auditorium.
00:26:35
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:26:37
Natalie Richards
I remember him talking about these bouncers because it like curves the little baby's spine and then they're putting
00:26:40
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yes.
00:26:45
Natalie Richards
they're putting like
00:26:47
Felicia Devine
Compression.
00:26:48
Natalie Richards
compression on the legs far before they're ready to walk. Okay. But also like, it curves the spine.
00:26:53
Felicia Devine
They're smashing their spines.
00:26:56
Natalie Richards
so it doesn't allow the lumbar curve to develop.
00:26:59
Felicia Devine
and
00:26:59
Natalie Richards
So I remember him saying, you, if you ever come across somebody who wants to use the, the bouncer, put He goes, roll up a roll up a little towel, like go a little washcloth, and put it like a lumbar support in the bouncer.
00:27:11
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Oh.
00:27:15
Natalie Richards
i Whatever. Let's just not recommend we use those. But –
00:27:21
Felicia Devine
No, that's it's I think they should still be illegal.
00:27:25
Natalie Richards
maybe for Maybe for a baby who or a child who can fully walk and bounce on their own and you want to like stick them in something for a bit, fine.
00:27:33
Felicia Devine
Mobilize maybe. Yeah. Like, yeah, if they I think if a baby is already walking, their spinal curves have developed.
00:27:43
Natalie Richards
They have developed appropriately because they've been crawling long enough to develop the cervical and lumbar curve.
00:27:46
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yes. Yeah.
00:27:49
Natalie Richards
Okay, fine.
00:27:50
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:27:51
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:27:52
Felicia Devine
But what's really great on the market are those like silk sensory swings where it's like a hammock kind of like cocoon thing and they can swing on their belly.
00:27:59
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:28:02
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:28:04
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:28:06
Felicia Devine
They can sit cross-legged in there and swing.
00:28:06
Natalie Richards
yes yeah
00:28:09
Felicia Devine
But that is like new gen baby doorway bouncers.
00:28:13
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:28:15
Felicia Devine
So I'm of the the club of those.
00:28:18
Natalie Richards
ah Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:19
Felicia Devine
Okay, so so give me your rating, 0 to 10, baby doorway bouncer.
00:28:19
Natalie Richards
i Oh, Lord. i think it has to be zero. Zero.
00:28:26
Felicia Devine
Okay, do we rate anything other than a 0?
00:28:31
Natalie Richards
Yes, we had a couple ones and a three.
00:28:33
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:28:34
Natalie Richards
What did I rate a three?
00:28:34
Felicia Devine
Well, oh, yeah, and, like, the diapers and the Artie Pop.
00:28:36
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:28:37
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:28:38
Natalie Richards
We had a couple tens. Oh my God. What did I not? Oh, the ah my other things I had on here Hakkas and rice cereal.
00:28:46
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:28:50
Felicia Devine
Natalie, don't start me on cereal.
00:28:51
Natalie Richards
You can't. I knew that would trigger you.
00:28:54
Felicia Devine
o
00:28:55
Natalie Richards
I didn't get to that one.
00:28:56
Felicia Devine
um my gosh. No. ah Let's see. I didn't use a haka. What's your opinion on a haka?
00:29:01
Natalie Richards
I used a Haka and I really liked it for me. And I know a lot of people don't like them because they can create an oversupply issue.
00:29:09
Felicia Devine
Oversupply? Oh, I wish I had an oversupply.
00:29:11
Natalie Richards
you ah well I think that in in a lot of cases, that's that's where people are at.
00:29:17
Felicia Devine
Well, I'm going to use one next time.
00:29:19
Natalie Richards
I think it was great because i didn't have to pump an ounce. And I had like, I saved like 150 ounces in the in the freezer a Haka.
00:29:27
Felicia Devine
Anahaka?
00:29:29
Natalie Richards
Just like a couple ounces at a time. I'd just slap it on after I had fed him on that boob. I would feed him on the other side and I'd just collect whatever came out. But a lot of people don't have that experience. So it may not work for everybody.
00:29:44
Natalie Richards
But for me, i loved it.
00:29:44
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:29:45
Natalie Richards
It was great. And I never i never had to pump. and i had milk in the freezer.
00:29:49
Felicia Devine
Oh, I hate my pomp.
00:29:51
Natalie Richards
It's horrible.
00:29:52
Felicia Devine
I hate it. I try and pump at night after he goes to sleep so that I can like build up a little stash, but I fluctuate anywhere between zero ounces and 15 ounces in my freezer at once.
00:29:56
Natalie Richards
the
00:29:58
Natalie Richards
no
00:30:05
Natalie Richards
and that's fine. i don't think you need any more than that though.
00:30:06
Felicia Devine
I was, yeah. No, I always tell Dan, if I go missing, you have half a day to figure it out.
00:30:12
Natalie Richards
Right. Figure it out.
00:30:13
Felicia Devine
if i To find a wet nurse. Half a day.
00:30:17
Natalie Richards
ah One of my friends, one of my friends nursed Jean one time.
00:30:22
Felicia Devine
Really? On purpose?
00:30:24
Natalie Richards
Cause it was like, yeah, like it was, it was like right when I was having so many problems and he was like still really at that time really wanting to nurse.
00:30:29
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:30:33
Natalie Richards
And she, she let him nurse. It was so cute.
00:30:37
Felicia Devine
And he did it?
00:30:38
Natalie Richards
Yeah. I couldn't even believe it. It was like the most fascinating, weird thing.
00:30:43
Felicia Devine
Wow.
00:30:44
Natalie Richards
So funny. Isn't that crazy?
00:30:45
Felicia Devine
Wow.
00:30:45
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:30:45
Felicia Devine
One time, Sep had to drink um pumped milk from my sister-in-law.
00:30:51
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:30:51
Felicia Devine
We were in the car, and i didn't I wasn't pumping at that time because he was – I didn't start pumping for like a long time. Yeah. But she had she was also nursing, but she like brought like some pumped milk in a cooler just like as extra in case like they needed it.
00:31:07
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:31:08
Felicia Devine
And Sep was like losing his mind on this hour and a half car ride.
00:31:12
Natalie Richards
Oh my God.
00:31:12
Felicia Devine
And I was like, I don't know what to do.
00:31:13
Natalie Richards
What do we do?
00:31:14
Felicia Devine
And she, and my brother and Amanda were like, oh, like we have some milk if you want to try it. Okay. He loved it.
00:31:20
Natalie Richards
Of course.
00:31:21
Felicia Devine
He loved it It was, her milk is like thick.
00:31:22
Natalie Richards
It's.
00:31:24
Felicia Devine
She has good milk.
00:31:25
Natalie Richards
and Oh, is it? Yeah.
00:31:26
Felicia Devine
Oh, she has, have skim milk. She has good milk. She has real good milk. He loved it. And then he passed out and was like snoozing.
00:31:32
Natalie Richards
ah Amazing. Amazing.
00:31:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. But yeah.
00:31:35
Natalie Richards
Honestly, that's like what people would do. If a baby needs to be fed, a baby needs to be fed.
00:31:40
Felicia Devine
Crowd sharing, you know?
00:31:41
Natalie Richards
ah Whatever. It's great. Oh my God.
00:31:46
Felicia Devine
So funny.
00:31:46
Natalie Richards
That is so hilarious.
00:31:47
Felicia Devine
Oh, that was a fun game.
00:31:49
Natalie Richards
I loved that.
00:31:50
Felicia Devine
i think we could play that with like other topics too.
00:31:52
Natalie Richards
Yeah, we can we can. We can do like a quick version. That was fun.
00:31:55
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:31:56
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:31:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:31:57
Natalie Richards
Whatever.
00:31:57
Felicia Devine
I mean, we might lose a significant amount of traction by sharing our opinions, but you know, if you stick with us.
00:32:00
Natalie Richards
Whatever.
00:32:06
Natalie Richards
That's what this whole podcast is about.
00:32:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah, that's true. That's true.
00:32:09
Natalie Richards
ah so voicing our very somewhat controversial opinions. doesn't matter. are well-educated about these things and we and very passionate.
00:32:20
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And i'm very passionate.
00:32:24
Natalie Richards
So we come to conclusions that are maybe a little different than the average person.
00:32:24
Felicia Devine
And if, you yeah.
00:32:30
Felicia Devine
And I, like I said, like if you choose to do a different thing for your family, just be passionate about it.
00:32:37
Natalie Richards
That's right. And then I'm cool.
00:32:37
Felicia Devine
Like if you're a ride or die swaddle and you're passionate about it, I'm like, great. Like you, you are choosing what's right for your family and you are choosing what you feel empowered to choose.
00:32:42
Natalie Richards
I'm so happy that that's working for you. Right.
00:32:48
Felicia Devine
Just be passionate about it.
00:32:50
Natalie Richards
Yep. Yep.
00:32:51
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:52
Natalie Richards
And be like, yeah, passionate and aware of ah why.
00:32:55
Felicia Devine
Why you're choosing things.
00:32:57
Natalie Richards
Yeah, exactly.
00:32:57
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:58
Natalie Richards
Oh, gene Gene fell asleep on the couch. Yes.
00:33:01
Felicia Devine
Oh, good.
00:33:02
Natalie Richards
Oh, maybe his eyes are going like.
00:33:02
Felicia Devine
Yes. They're like slowly closing. He's forgetting about the box of cupcakes he wants you to make. I was convinced he was going to explode the bag of flour on you.
00:33:13
Natalie Richards
Oh, he he almost did. He would have.
00:33:15
Felicia Devine
Oh, gosh.
00:33:16
Natalie Richards
he He would have insisted. He was going to try to open it himself 1 million percent.
00:33:20
Felicia Devine
ah yeah
00:33:21
Natalie Richards
These things are really good, by the way. They're like a gluten-free cinnamon sugar donut. Do you see what this is?
00:33:27
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:33:29
Natalie Richards
Miss Jones. Have you ever tried any of these products?
00:33:32
Felicia Devine
No. How do you make a donut at home?
00:33:32
Natalie Richards
miss Okay. It's not a donut. You end up baking it in like a mini muffin pan.
00:33:35
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:33:39
Felicia Devine
Oh, fun.
00:33:40
Natalie Richards
You bake the mini muffins and then you literally take each muffin, you dunk it in butter and then roll it in cinnamon sugar. That's what this is.
00:33:48
Felicia Devine
ah
00:33:49
Natalie Richards
And they are like, I think Kyle ate the entire box the last time I made these.
00:33:49
Felicia Devine
Yum.
00:33:53
Felicia Devine
Yum.
00:33:54
Natalie Richards
It's insane. Like you can't even, like it's literally a butter soaked muffin with cinnamon sugar.
00:33:59
Felicia Devine
Yum. On the outside. that sounds delicious. I would love those.
00:34:03
Natalie Richards
Amazing.
00:34:05
Felicia Devine
i would love those.
00:34:06
Natalie Richards
And she makes like really good cookies and there's gluten-free and organic ones and it's good stuff.
00:34:10
Felicia Devine
Where do you buy them?
00:34:12
Natalie Richards
Good stuff.
00:34:13
Felicia Devine
Where do you get Miss Jones?
00:34:15
Natalie Richards
I got that at, oh God, Walmart maybe. i can't remember. i either order them or I get them. random places.
00:34:24
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:34:24
Natalie Richards
Okay. This makes me want to want to talk about something else.
00:34:32
Felicia Devine
What?
00:34:32
Natalie Richards
Okay. I've never been... love sourdough. I love bread. Okay. I love sourdough. It's really great. I've never been on the train of wanting to do it myself.
00:34:46
Natalie Richards
Okay. So I listened to a podcast the other day and it was this woman talking about the benefits of freshly milled grain that is then made into bread or made into whatever.
00:34:56
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:34:59
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:35:00
Natalie Richards
So i'm i I'm about like two clicks away from ordering a grain mill to put on my countertop and mill my own grain to then make bagels and bread.
00:35:07
Felicia Devine
Yes. and Okay.
00:35:14
Natalie Richards
And I'm i'm this close. I'm like, uh-huh.
00:35:16
Felicia Devine
So you're going from never having made bread, never having made serenadeau to buying your own meal.
00:35:21
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. And then making a sourdough starter out of that freshly milled grain and then baking sourdough from freshly milled grain.
00:35:30
Felicia Devine
I mean, if anyone, if anyone can do it, it's you.
00:35:34
Natalie Richards
I always said, oh, sourdough is too time-consuming.
00:35:37
Felicia Devine
It is. It's a full-time job.
00:35:38
Natalie Richards
Yes, it is. She did say if you mill your own grain, you can handle it a little bit better, and it's way more obviously way more nutritious, um but you don't necessarily have to do sourdough from it. You can just...
00:35:53
Natalie Richards
You can just make – I don't know.
00:35:55
Felicia Devine
Like sandwich bread.
00:35:55
Natalie Richards
i I'm like curious.
00:35:56
Felicia Devine
Actually, I don't even know.
00:35:57
Natalie Richards
I'm curious enough that I need – I think I need to just try it.
00:36:01
Felicia Devine
Yeah, I think you just need to buy it.
00:36:02
Natalie Richards
I'm curious enough to like buy the stuff, do it, and be like, hmm, does this really do what she said this is going to do?
00:36:09
Felicia Devine
I heard their they can be pretty pricey.
00:36:12
Natalie Richards
It's like $300 for a little mill and then I need a KitchenAid mixer apparently to mix up my dough and then I need – Oh, you did?
00:36:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. I got one for my birthday.
00:36:20
Natalie Richards
Nice. Oh.
00:36:22
Felicia Devine
Yeah, because I'm a baker.
00:36:22
Natalie Richards
love
00:36:24
Felicia Devine
i used it last night to make homemade chocolate chip cookies.
00:36:27
Natalie Richards
I hate things on my countertops.
00:36:29
Felicia Devine
Oh, Natalie, I have a pantry the size –
00:36:30
Natalie Richards
That's – That holds all of your appliances. That's my –
00:36:37
Felicia Devine
it It could hold a bedroom. It's ginormous.
00:36:41
Natalie Richards
That's my dream. Maybe I'll make this closet.
00:36:41
Felicia Devine
I find things to put in it.
00:36:43
Natalie Richards
I'll make this closet into that. I'm just going have Kyle build a shelf and it's going to hold all of my random crap.
00:36:45
Felicia Devine
Yeah. yeah and Yeah.
00:36:50
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:36:51
Felicia Devine
Yeah. We don't keep any food in the kitchen.
00:36:54
Natalie Richards
Oh, I love that.
00:36:54
Felicia Devine
The only food in the kitchen is in the refrigerator. Yeah.
00:36:58
Natalie Richards
It's like a dream.
00:36:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And then all our appliances, the only the only appliance we keep out is the air fryer.
00:37:04
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:37:05
Felicia Devine
But we use that like literally three times a day because we don't have a toaster.
00:37:05
Natalie Richards
Fair enough. Right. That's the problem.
00:37:10
Felicia Devine
um
00:37:11
Natalie Richards
I have an air fryer on my oven, so I just use that and I use that feature.
00:37:13
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:37:15
Natalie Richards
all the time.
00:37:15
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:37:16
Natalie Richards
It's probably such a waste ah doing the oven air fryer every single time, but I cannot lug it in and out of the closet.
00:37:16
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:37:21
Felicia Devine
You're my air fryer is going all day long. No, no.
00:37:25
Natalie Richards
It's not going to happen.
00:37:26
Felicia Devine
Yeah, no. I think I need a new air fryer. It's very old, but that's the only appliance we keep out.
00:37:32
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Fair enough.
00:37:33
Felicia Devine
Yeah, I know.
00:37:34
Natalie Richards
Oh my God.
00:37:34
Felicia Devine
So anyway, I would – can you get on it so we can learn?
00:37:34
Natalie Richards
So anyway, I just said I had to say that. so ah if you see me grinding my own grain over here, ah yeah, I'll work on it.
00:37:44
Felicia Devine
I would so into eating fresh sourdough products daily.
00:37:50
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:37:51
Felicia Devine
i just cannot fathom the nuances.
00:37:55
Natalie Richards
did did I know.
00:37:55
Felicia Devine
I'm so bad at cooking. I'm so bad at measuring. I'm so bad at order of events.
00:38:00
Natalie Richards
Also, yeah, the fact that I would have to have like a weight, a scale and be weighing things, that's not me. I don't know.
00:38:06
Felicia Devine
I also can't think in grams.
00:38:07
Natalie Richards
I'm going to do it.
00:38:07
Felicia Devine
I'm sorry. I grew up on ounces.
00:38:08
Natalie Richards
i No, I'm going to do it by by sight and by feel. And if it doesn't work, it doesn't work, but I'm not doing the measuring thing. It's not going to happen.
00:38:17
Felicia Devine
I, so making.
00:38:20
Natalie Richards
going to make freshly milled grain bread without measuring anything.
00:38:23
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yes. You are going to make it by heart.
00:38:25
Natalie Richards
We're going to see how it goes. Yeah.
00:38:27
Felicia Devine
I was trying to make, so i was trying to make these chocolate chip cookie, chocolate chip cookies last night. And. I was trying to read out my recipe and it said, what did it say? Oh, it said three three or two and three fourths.
00:38:42
Felicia Devine
And I said, okay. So I have my one cup, but then grabbed my one third cup. And I already committed. so then I'm standing there.
00:38:50
Natalie Richards
Oh, no.
00:38:52
Felicia Devine
i had two cups and a third.
00:38:52
Natalie Richards
Trying to. Oh, God.
00:38:55
Felicia Devine
And then I said, how do I get from one third to three fourths? How do I do that? so I'm yelling across the house, Dan, how do you get?
00:39:00
Natalie Richards
Oh, Okay, sure.
00:39:03
Felicia Devine
And Dan's like, okay, well, one third is
00:39:09
Natalie Richards
oh god
00:39:09
Felicia Devine
33% three fourths is like 60 something percent.
00:39:10
Natalie Richards
ok sure yeah
00:39:14
Felicia Devine
He was giving me percentages and I had to use that to convert back to my brain, how to get my one third measuring cup to three fourths. I don't know if I did it right,
00:39:22
Natalie Richards
I feel like two-thirds would get you pretty close, and then two-thirds and a couple tablespoons probably.
00:39:27
Felicia Devine
but is two thirds less or more than three fourths?
00:39:31
Natalie Richards
ah think less, just slightly. Okay.
00:39:34
Felicia Devine
But how I can't even conceptualize it.
00:39:38
Natalie Richards
Two-thirds would be would be 75%.
00:39:40
Felicia Devine
Like he was trying to give me the percentage of it.
00:39:42
Natalie Richards
would be the six would be sixty six percent
00:39:44
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:39:45
Natalie Richards
and then three fourths would be seventy five percent
00:39:48
Felicia Devine
Oh, so that's what he was trying to tell me. But then I was trying to use one third to get to the rest of I was so confused.
00:39:50
Natalie Richards
Yeah. So like,
00:39:54
Natalie Richards
right. You would have put one more third in plus a couple tablespoons probably.
00:39:57
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yeah. So I like guessed, I guessed on my flour and then i started pouring other things in. And then I looked back at the recipe and it said cream the
00:40:09
Natalie Richards
um
00:40:10
Felicia Devine
ah Cream the butter sugar.
00:40:11
Natalie Richards
Cream the butter and the sugar. That's how you make cookies.
00:40:14
Felicia Devine
I said, i didn't know that was a step.
00:40:14
Natalie Richards
Yeah. and So you just put everything all together.
00:40:18
Felicia Devine
Everything goes at once. And then I hit high speed. I whipped it. I made whipped chocolate chip cookies.
00:40:28
Felicia Devine
And so I don't know.
00:40:29
Natalie Richards
Oh my
00:40:29
Felicia Devine
They turned out they tasted fine.
00:40:33
Natalie Richards
You know, Gene's like, you okay, Jeannie? He's asleep, but he's like coughing out a dog hair, I think.
00:40:39
Felicia Devine
Oh, okay. I'm like, we good?
00:40:41
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:40:41
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So the chocolate chip cookies...
00:40:46
Natalie Richards
I think he choked on his spit. Okay. He's fine. He's asleep. He's literally asleep.
00:40:49
Felicia Devine
He is.
00:40:50
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Okay. He's fine. that okay he's fine
00:40:55
Felicia Devine
Okay. um The cookies turned out tasting good. They look weird. I don't know why.
00:41:02
Natalie Richards
Interesting.
00:41:02
Felicia Devine
I think...
00:41:03
Natalie Richards
Are they too thick? Are they like dense?
00:41:05
Felicia Devine
No, because I did chill them after. But i also so I also, my butter was frozen. so I said, defrost.
00:41:13
Natalie Richards
And you melted it
00:41:13
Felicia Devine
Well, I turned around. It was ah puddle. It was full melted butter.
00:41:16
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:41:17
Felicia Devine
So then I creamed in my because it was liquid butter.
00:41:18
Natalie Richards
Yes. That may be the only reason why those cookies worked.
00:41:24
Natalie Richards
ah
00:41:25
Felicia Devine
Oh, so that was a plus.
00:41:27
Natalie Richards
Because you can, so I mean, yeah, sometimes you can make cookies with melted butter. It just changes the texture.
00:41:32
Felicia Devine
But honestly, if you turn your KitchenAid to 10, you can make anything happen.
00:41:35
Natalie Richards
and just just hope for the best.
00:41:39
Felicia Devine
You can fix all your problems. b equalized
00:41:42
Natalie Richards
It puts those ingredients together so well, you wouldn't know.
00:41:45
Felicia Devine
ah Speed equalizes all playing fields.
00:41:48
Natalie Richards
That's so amazing.
00:41:48
Felicia Devine
I don't care what you say.
00:41:50
Natalie Richards
That's amazing.
00:41:50
Felicia Devine
So I think I need to look at my recipe again and like actually put like a 1 and circle it and a 2. Because like it's not – I wrote it
00:41:59
Natalie Richards
Oh, you just put everything all together. Yeah, okay.
00:42:02
Felicia Devine
But then I like at one point wrote like cream, cream in or something.
00:42:05
Natalie Richards
hu
00:42:06
Felicia Devine
I don't even know what that meant. So then I realized that like I should have done that first. I think, right? You do that first.
00:42:12
Natalie Richards
Yeah, you do the butter and the sugar. You do softened butter and sugar together and you cream it up until it's like not super fluffy because then that's too much air, but you cream it together.
00:42:23
Felicia Devine
So not level 10.
00:42:25
Natalie Richards
no
00:42:27
Felicia Devine
Oh, okay. I don't know. These cookies ended up tasting fine. So maybe i should stick with like my version.
00:42:31
Natalie Richards
Amazing. Maybe.
00:42:33
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:42:33
Natalie Richards
And just continue with melted butter and throwing it all in together.
00:42:37
Felicia Devine
I'm going to just patent it.
00:42:38
Natalie Richards
Fine.
00:42:38
Felicia Devine
It's like Taylor's version.
00:42:39
Natalie Richards
Fine. Fine.
00:42:40
Felicia Devine
Felicia's version. Yeah. So, okay. So you're going to get a mil.
00:42:44
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:42:45
Felicia Devine
All right.
00:42:46
Natalie Richards
And I'll try your chocolate chip cookie recipe out of freshly milled flour.
00:42:48
Felicia Devine
Try. Yes.
00:42:51
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yes. It would be so good.
00:42:53
Natalie Richards
I'm going to make bagels.
00:42:53
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:42:54
Natalie Richards
I'm going to make... When do I have time for this stuff?
00:42:58
Felicia Devine
Oh, I saw somebody.
00:42:58
Natalie Richards
I don't know.
00:42:59
Felicia Devine
Somebody makes English muffins.
00:43:01
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:43:01
Felicia Devine
ah
00:43:02
Natalie Richards
I would love to.
00:43:02
Felicia Devine
Delish. Yeah.
00:43:04
Natalie Richards
There is this like cute little girl I follow. She's like she's some milk. She like sponsors – Milk sponsors her. Okay. Her Instagram – Milk – Like big milk sponsors her Instagram page.
00:43:19
Felicia Devine
Like the Got Milk campaign?
00:43:21
Natalie Richards
yeah yeah That's part of like the milk producers of America, whatever. Whatever –
00:43:26
Felicia Devine
they' It's like big pharma.
00:43:27
Natalie Richards
Big milk.
00:43:27
Felicia Devine
It's big milk.
00:43:28
Natalie Richards
Yeah, it's big milk.
00:43:28
Felicia Devine
Oh, okay.
00:43:29
Natalie Richards
It's a thing. So they sponsor her page, but she's pregnant and she has this little farm stand, roadside stand that has gone like viral.
00:43:35
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:43:38
Natalie Richards
And she's making these beautiful English muffins that are and scones and all of this stuff. I'm like, oh, I love that.
00:43:44
Felicia Devine
Cute.
00:43:45
Natalie Richards
But I kid don't have that in me. i don't have that in me.
00:43:48
Felicia Devine
I know. I know. That just sounds really intimidating.
00:43:50
Natalie Richards
I'd love to.
00:43:51
Felicia Devine
Even though I feel like these, these, I have a friend that does sourdough like everything. She makes sourdough literally everything.
00:43:57
Natalie Richards
Yeah, everything.
00:43:58
Felicia Devine
And she's like, oh it's like three ingredients. And I'm like, what?
00:44:00
Natalie Richards
And it literally is.
00:44:00
Felicia Devine
And then she, you know what else she makes a million things out of?
00:44:01
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:44:04
Felicia Devine
Discard.
00:44:05
Natalie Richards
It's the same thing.
00:44:06
Felicia Devine
And she's like, oh yeah, you just take the discard. I'm like, what?
00:44:09
Natalie Richards
yeah can make pet but You can make You can make, it's a whole thing.
00:44:10
Felicia Devine
And that she's like, yeah, it's like she makes Cheez-Its, homemade Cheez-Its.
00:44:14
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:44:16
Felicia Devine
Oh, she makes the best discard, sourdough, cinnamon rolls.
00:44:20
Natalie Richards
Okay. Yes. I also need you to follow this one person. I'm going to go find her.
00:44:23
Felicia Devine
The milk girl?
00:44:24
Natalie Richards
No. ah Her name is, i think it's like, okay, cool, Gigi. I'm pretty sure.
00:44:33
Felicia Devine
Confident branding.
00:44:34
Natalie Richards
Okay. She makes sourdough, but she's like from New York and she's hilarious.
00:44:39
Felicia Devine
Wait, is she the one that's like so chaotic?
00:44:41
Natalie Richards
Did I send it? I think I sent it to you.
00:44:42
Felicia Devine
She spills everything?
00:44:43
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Spills everything and she's, her starter's name is Eloise and she's like, Eloise, we got the prosciutto and the, we're making an Italian and italian sourdough Eloise.
00:44:45
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:44:47
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yes. yes And she's throwing things everywhere. She's so messy.
00:44:57
Natalie Richards
She's so messy and so chaotic and I've watched every single one of her videos because it's hilarious.
00:45:03
Felicia Devine
Yes. I think you sent me one of her things. I need to follow her.
00:45:05
Natalie Richards
I probably did. She's so funny.
00:45:08
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:45:08
Natalie Richards
Okay. So as I'm drinking my coffee out of my glass straw here, am.
00:45:12
Felicia Devine
i have ah I have a bone to pick. That's what should have been on my list.
00:45:15
Natalie Richards
u hu
00:45:16
Felicia Devine
Straws, zero out of 10.
00:45:17
Natalie Richards
Straws. So you've been trying to avoid straws all because you listen to some podcast.
00:45:20
Felicia Devine
I'm leading. Yeah.
00:45:26
Natalie Richards
All of all of our topics come from, listened to a podcast
00:45:30
Felicia Devine
I listened to somebody else's opinion and I made my own.
00:45:32
Natalie Richards
and I made my own out of it.
00:45:33
Felicia Devine
No, I'm leading a revolution.
00:45:36
Natalie Richards
Oh, oh wow Taking it very far.
00:45:38
Felicia Devine
i'm i am taking down the patriarchy.
00:45:40
Natalie Richards
oh
00:45:43
Felicia Devine
No, I'm like, I'm convinced.
00:45:43
Natalie Richards
we've been convinced that straws are good.
00:45:46
Felicia Devine
I'm days in to going strawless. And I've realized that straws equal bloating. Direct correlation.
00:45:55
Natalie Richards
Okay. Okay.
00:45:56
Felicia Devine
ah hundred percent.
00:45:57
Natalie Richards
Because you never really were bloated, right? Or you never realized that you were.
00:46:01
Felicia Devine
Not that I was, it was never like, if I went, if I ever went to a doctor, okay. If I ever walked into a doctor's office.
00:46:07
Natalie Richards
If. ah
00:46:09
Felicia Devine
And they said, Felicia, list out the top five health concerns. I don't even think it would make it my top 10.
00:46:15
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:46:16
Felicia Devine
I don't think bloating was like top of mind, you know?
00:46:18
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:46:20
Felicia Devine
But then like when you think about it, you're like, yeah, like my stomach is always bigger, but I'm also postpartum.
00:46:24
Natalie Richards
Sure. Somewhat distended. Right. Okay.
00:46:26
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And then when you stop drinking every single liquid through a straw, I drink hot coffee through a straw, cold coffee through a straw, smoothies, water, ah there
00:46:37
Natalie Richards
To be honest, it was like your identity.
00:46:38
Felicia Devine
You can't name a thing I don't.
00:46:40
Natalie Richards
I feel like like you are a straw girly.
00:46:41
Felicia Devine
I'm a straw girly.
00:46:44
Natalie Richards
Like every everything about your life from as long as I've known you has been, where's my straw?
00:46:49
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:46:50
Natalie Richards
I need a straw for this.
00:46:50
Felicia Devine
Literally.
00:46:51
Natalie Richards
Oh, do you have a straw? Do you have a straw? I'm like, what do you mean a straw for hot coffee?
00:46:55
Felicia Devine
we yeah we get a martini in a bar.
00:46:57
Natalie Richards
What you mean straw?
00:46:57
Felicia Devine
I go, can I get a straw?
00:46:57
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:47:00
Felicia Devine
I can't drink anything without a straw. Like if you hand me a cup of something and it has cubes in it, I won't drink it till it's melted. i can't have an ice cube touch my face.
00:47:15
Felicia Devine
God forbid an ice cube gets inside my mouth.
00:47:17
Natalie Richards
What are you going to do? has this been like the hardest thing you've ever done?
00:47:22
Felicia Devine
It has. it's ah It's definitely, it's called a lifestyle change because it really is taking effort.
00:47:25
Natalie Richards
yeah Oh my God.
00:47:28
Felicia Devine
and know. i had to really think about it.
00:47:29
Natalie Richards
But you've noticed a difference.
00:47:29
Felicia Devine
Like I'm drinking, I'm drinking room temperature water out of a cup because I can't, I can't stand to have cold liquid in my mouth without a straw.
00:47:33
Natalie Richards
Oh my God.
00:47:38
Natalie Richards
That's so funny. I'm so the opposite.
00:47:40
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:47:40
Natalie Richards
I'm like, let me have the coldest or hottest thing possible touch my mouth.
00:47:47
Felicia Devine
Natalie, actually, now that you say that, Natalie introduced me to this thing where you can order extra hot coffee at a coffee shop.
00:47:52
Natalie Richards
hu I used to request a certain degree.
00:47:55
Felicia Devine
You literally used to order extra hot coffee.
00:47:55
Natalie Richards
Remember? 180
00:47:59
Felicia Devine
I said, that's crazy.
00:47:59
Natalie Richards
They look at me and say, ma'am, do you realize that that that like it's boiling and that the milk is going to be curdled?
00:48:02
Felicia Devine
That's actually crazy. That's like illegal.
00:48:07
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:48:07
Natalie Richards
And I go, just do what you can.
00:48:09
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:48:10
Natalie Richards
Just get it up there. Just as hot as you can do.
00:48:12
Felicia Devine
Yeah. You introduced me to the fact that you can request extra hot coffee. I didn't even know that was a nod.
00:48:18
Natalie Richards
You can also request warm if you ever wanted to.
00:48:23
Felicia Devine
Can I get lukewarm coffee?
00:48:24
Natalie Richards
Can I get a lukewarm latte, please?
00:48:26
Felicia Devine
Yes. No. Cause I'm like, I don't like things too hot. I don't like things too cold.
00:48:31
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:48:32
Felicia Devine
I want them to surpass my teeth. Like I don't know. So now that I'm like days into this, I have zero bloating.
00:48:37
Natalie Richards
I'm going to try it.
00:48:41
Felicia Devine
Zero.
00:48:41
Natalie Richards
I'm really curious. I will try anything once.
00:48:42
Felicia Devine
None.
00:48:45
Natalie Richards
Like I literally, anything.
00:48:45
Felicia Devine
Same. Same. I will literally try anything once.
00:48:49
Natalie Richards
i don't care.
00:48:49
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:48:50
Natalie Richards
ah You got studies to back it up.
00:48:50
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:48:52
Natalie Richards
Don't care. doesn't matter.
00:48:53
Felicia Devine
Don't care.
00:48:53
Natalie Richards
don't
00:48:54
Felicia Devine
Anecdotal evidence, I will try it.
00:48:56
Natalie Richards
I will try.
00:48:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Uh-huh.
00:48:57
Natalie Richards
your Your sister's mother-in-law tried something time.
00:49:01
Felicia Devine
One time, I'll do it.
00:49:03
Natalie Richards
Cool. Fine.
00:49:03
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:49:04
Natalie Richards
I'll try it.
00:49:04
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:49:05
Natalie Richards
I'll try it.
00:49:05
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Somebody tells me a story about an ancestor. I said, if they did it, I'll try it.
00:49:09
Natalie Richards
ah Done. Sign me up.
00:49:11
Felicia Devine
No, but I don't know how I'm going to change my life around this because I think I have to build up resistance for my teeth. My teeth are sensitive.
00:49:17
Natalie Richards
Yeah, you're right. do you What toothpaste do you use?
00:49:21
Felicia Devine
Don't ask me that.
00:49:21
Natalie Richards
This is a whole this is the whole other topic i can't handle.
00:49:22
Felicia Devine
Don't ask me that.
00:49:25
Felicia Devine
Don't expose me.
00:49:27
Natalie Richards
What do you use?
00:49:27
Felicia Devine
I can't. I can't tell you.
00:49:29
Natalie Richards
Okay. Okay. We'll get it. we'll We'll have a dental episode at some point because i think we're going to differ.
00:49:32
Felicia Devine
I'll tell you.
00:49:36
Felicia Devine
No, 100%. If I have one thing in my life that I am not proud of, it's my toothpaste.
00:49:42
Natalie Richards
o
00:49:43
Felicia Devine
That's exposing.
00:49:43
Natalie Richards
Wow. I just exposed you. i didn't know if you had changed your ways.
00:49:45
Felicia Devine
You did.
00:49:49
Felicia Devine
no And I'm trying. I'll tell you what.
00:49:50
Natalie Richards
Oh, that's funny.
00:49:51
Felicia Devine
i've I have a ton of toothpaste in my drawer. A ton. I probably have. I'm not exaggerating. Like four to five almost brand new tubes of toothpaste in my drawer because I cannot find a natural one i like.
00:50:01
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:50:05
Natalie Richards
Uh-huh.
00:50:06
Felicia Devine
So I'm a crest girly.
00:50:08
Natalie Richards
oh Oh, no.
00:50:09
Felicia Devine
I know. know.
00:50:11
Natalie Richards
Don't say it too loud.
00:50:13
Felicia Devine
Crest. Crest.
00:50:16
Natalie Richards
Oh, no.
00:50:18
Felicia Devine
Whoa, so terrifying. I literally am anti-fluoride and I'm putting fluoride in my mouth.
00:50:23
Natalie Richards
Oh, this is a, this is a, this is like, Wow.
00:50:24
Felicia Devine
I know. Isn't that crazy? Exposing. You caught me with my pants down.
00:50:29
Natalie Richards
Wow. i kind of, i kind of figured though. but
00:50:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah, I know. But like I said, I can't find one I like, so I'm trying.
00:50:38
Natalie Richards
Okay. Okay.
00:50:39
Felicia Devine
Seppi is on. um ah Oh, my gosh. It's so cute. The branding is so stinking cute. He's a dentist out of, um I think, Utah.
00:50:52
Felicia Devine
And he has his own.
00:50:53
Natalie Richards
Is it Revitan?
00:50:54
Felicia Devine
No. It's like super um like 70s themed.
00:50:58
Natalie Richards
Is it the the fig one for your good guys, whatever?
00:50:58
Felicia Devine
ah Happy tooth.
00:51:03
Natalie Richards
Oh, happy tooth. Yeah. Okay.
00:51:04
Felicia Devine
And it's like fluoride free.
00:51:04
Natalie Richards
Yep. I like that stuff.
00:51:06
Felicia Devine
Yeah. But can't be brushing my teeth with like vanilla frosting toothpaste.
00:51:12
Natalie Richards
Oh God, no.
00:51:13
Felicia Devine
I need like minty, minty, icy fresh.
00:51:16
Natalie Richards
Oh, that's tough because a lot of them are not.
00:51:18
Felicia Devine
and know. No, I know. That's why i like all the other natural ones.
00:51:21
Natalie Richards
No.
00:51:22
Felicia Devine
I'm just like, it doesn't clean my mouth.
00:51:24
Natalie Richards
It just doesn't quite do it. Okay.
00:51:28
Felicia Devine
I know.
00:51:28
Natalie Richards
You need to put like straight up peppermint essential oil in your...
00:51:31
Felicia Devine
Dan would kill me.
00:51:33
Natalie Richards
Well, that's the other side to this is like, what are Daniel's opinions on all of this stuff?
00:51:35
Felicia Devine
i know i have like a literal dentist.
00:51:39
Felicia Devine
ah
00:51:40
Natalie Richards
But we ah let's have a separate episode about this because i think he should.
00:51:40
Felicia Devine
I don't even. yeah And then maybe Dan will give us his opinion and he, maybe he doesn't like come share it, but he'll give me his opinion so I can like share it with the world.
00:51:46
Natalie Richards
I would love it.
00:51:50
Natalie Richards
I have some questions for him. I also need to do a little bit deeper of a dive into a couple things that I'm, yeah.
00:51:53
Felicia Devine
Okay. Same, same.
00:51:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:52:00
Natalie Richards
Okay. I like that.
00:52:00
Felicia Devine
But I also, before I went like ultra crunchy, I used to use like crust white strips.
00:52:08
Natalie Richards
Yeah. And that kills your teeth.
00:52:09
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So like my teeth are bare naked.
00:52:12
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:52:13
Felicia Devine
My enamel is gone.
00:52:13
Natalie Richards
That's the only reason why I'm asking, because I think you could benefit from a remineralization
00:52:16
Felicia Devine
I don't have enamel.
00:52:21
Felicia Devine
If someone's selling their enamel, I'll take it.
00:52:22
Natalie Richards
and some hydroxyamphetamine.
00:52:26
Natalie Richards
Have you ever tried a tooth powder?
00:52:29
Felicia Devine
See, I don't know, Natalie.
00:52:31
Natalie Richards
it's too It's going to be too abrasive for Dan.
00:52:33
Felicia Devine
It is. Yeah, Dan doesn't like the abrasive.
00:52:34
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:52:35
Felicia Devine
He also is not of the nature. Like, he thinks – this is a hot take.
00:52:41
Natalie Richards
can't wait.
00:52:42
Felicia Devine
He thinks you should drink your coffee before you brush your teeth in the morning.
00:52:45
Natalie Richards
I've heard that too because after the brushing it's right.
00:52:46
Felicia Devine
Yeah, because it's so acidic. Yes. After you brush your teeth, you expose your pores.
00:52:49
Natalie Richards
huh
00:52:52
Felicia Devine
You drink coffee. A, it stains them. And B, the acidity soaks in. –
00:52:56
Natalie Richards
I think that's fair enough. That's fair enough.
00:52:57
Felicia Devine
but I can't go one minute after opening my eyeballs without brushing my teeth.
00:53:04
Natalie Richards
Really?
00:53:05
Felicia Devine
I wake up, my retainers come out. I put them in a um, ultrasonic cleaner and I brush my teeth immediately.
00:53:10
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:53:13
Natalie Richards
Okay. I heard this from – you'll have to ask s Dan this.
00:53:16
Felicia Devine
So what's wrong with my mouth? Why do i have to do that?
00:53:18
Natalie Richards
You'll have to ask Dan this. i
00:53:20
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:53:21
Natalie Richards
was listening to a ah dental hygienist talk and she was saying like if – it was particularly about pregnancy where like if you throw up that you should wait to brush your teeth because because yeah, the acidity opens up the pores and then if you brush your teeth you could really like –
00:53:38
Felicia Devine
hey
00:53:43
Natalie Richards
harm. You could, I don't even know.
00:53:46
Felicia Devine
Yeah, because if you're constantly going back and forth between like throwing up and brushing, you're just exposing them.
00:53:46
Natalie Richards
You could break your teeth, your enamel down.
00:53:51
Natalie Richards
yeah Yeah. So just rinse.
00:53:53
Felicia Devine
Rinse with water.
00:53:54
Natalie Richards
And then I guess coffee would be the same, right?
00:53:54
Felicia Devine
Water is a neutralizer. Yeah. So even – so like a huge thing, if you can't brush your teeth in between like coffee or like if you're like going to take a nap but you just ate a snack, swish with water.
00:53:57
Natalie Richards
Coffee would be the same way.
00:54:06
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:54:08
Felicia Devine
It neutralizes things.
00:54:08
Natalie Richards
Yeah. And neutralize it. Yeah.
00:54:10
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:54:10
Natalie Richards
I need to do that more often.
00:54:11
Felicia Devine
So like even with kids because kids are super prone to cavities because they're bad at brushing their teeth.
00:54:14
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:54:16
Felicia Devine
give your kid a sip of water after they eat a meal.
00:54:18
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:54:19
Felicia Devine
I mean, I'm not a huge proponent of chugging water after you eat because then you're like lowering your stomach acid.
00:54:19
Natalie Richards
Right. No.
00:54:24
Felicia Devine
There's like other things.
00:54:24
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:54:25
Felicia Devine
But for your teeth to be like rinsed.
00:54:27
Natalie Richards
To just rinse them. Rinse them and spit.
00:54:29
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Swish and spit.
00:54:32
Natalie Richards
Rinse and spit. Mm-hmm. Okay.
00:54:33
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So now that I've exposed myself, I'm ashamed.
00:54:34
Natalie Richards
Wait, this this could be... This is really funny. We all have something, okay? Okay.
00:54:41
Felicia Devine
Okay. What's your something, Natalie? What is your something that you –
00:54:44
Natalie Richards
and We have the same the other same something that we both get our nails done with this toxic freaking
00:54:48
Felicia Devine
Oh.
Allergic Reactions & Nail Products
00:54:50
Felicia Devine
Poison. Yeah.
00:54:51
Natalie Richards
crapola, which also another topic.
00:54:55
Natalie Richards
i
00:54:55
Felicia Devine
Hmm.
00:54:56
Natalie Richards
Did I tell you I was getting like allergic reactions and I had to stop for the longest time?
00:55:00
Felicia Devine
No, but again, you're sensitive.
00:55:02
Natalie Richards
I know. I'm like the canary in the coal mine.
00:55:07
Natalie Richards
Really, everybody is having a problem with it.
00:55:08
Felicia Devine
this
00:55:10
Natalie Richards
I just have the actual reaction.
00:55:11
Felicia Devine
You're just exposing it. Mm-hmm.
00:55:15
Natalie Richards
it It still happens a little bit, but I've found a salon that does it with like HEMA free nail polish.
00:55:21
Felicia Devine
Oh, what is HEMA?
00:55:22
Natalie Richards
But i'm HEMA is the thing that when you stick your hand in the in the light, it burns the crap out of your nail. When you feel the burning, it's the HEMA chemical that's like reacting.
00:55:31
Felicia Devine
Yes. okay
00:55:35
Felicia Devine
It's like curing.
00:55:36
Natalie Richards
It's cur it's a curing agent. there are There are gels that a lot of the main the main companies now make HEMA-free gels.
00:55:43
Felicia Devine
Are HEMA free?
00:55:48
Felicia Devine
Don't tell me that.
00:55:48
Natalie Richards
And they work the same way, but I have to like request – I can only do certain colors at this place because there's only certain ones that are HEMA-free.
00:55:48
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:55:54
Felicia Devine
I wonder if we... What if we bought our own gel and brought it with us?
00:55:59
Natalie Richards
That's what I had to do now because i they didn't have a top coat that was HEMA-free.
00:56:01
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:56:03
Natalie Richards
So it helped me a lot with my reaction have the base coat and the color be HEMA-free.
00:56:06
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Oh. And then Hema went over.
00:56:09
Natalie Richards
But since then, she still has been using the HEMA top coat.
00:56:12
Felicia Devine
Top coat.
00:56:13
Natalie Richards
It's a lesser reaction, but I just bought my own top coat to bring in.
00:56:17
Felicia Devine
And you'll bring it with you.
00:56:18
Natalie Richards
And I'll bring it in and I'm – i'm hoping to God that I don't get the reaction because I mean, i wish you could see what they look like, like what my skin looks like.
00:56:22
Felicia Devine
That's the cure. Okay. Yeah.
00:56:28
Natalie Richards
Like it's bad. Like it when it's having the reaction in a bad way, it like, it's like a dermatitis like bubble under my skin and then everything just peels off.
00:56:30
Felicia Devine
That's crazy.
00:56:36
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:56:39
Natalie Richards
Like it's, it's like an sheet.
00:56:40
Felicia Devine
Like your skin dyes.
00:56:41
Natalie Richards
Yeah. My skin dies and then it like, it's horrible.
00:56:44
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:56:44
Natalie Richards
Like why do I even care? Why am I doing this?
00:56:46
Felicia Devine
Oh, no.
00:56:48
Natalie Richards
But and anyway, it's the HEMA.
00:56:49
Felicia Devine
But it's the HEMA. We got to go HEMA free.
00:56:51
Natalie Richards
So I'm hoping, I'm hoping that the HEMA free top coat does it.
00:56:52
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:56:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
Food & Unconventional Uses of Lard
00:56:57
Natalie Richards
So we'll see. I think it will. Cause I noticed when I put the HEMA free coats on, my nails don't burn under the light. And then when she puts the top coat on, it burns a little bit.
00:57:06
Felicia Devine
It burns.
00:57:08
Natalie Richards
So I'm like, okay, this must be it.
00:57:10
Felicia Devine
Wow. Yeah.
00:57:11
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:57:11
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:57:11
Natalie Richards
So that's my thing. What's my other things? I don't know. I mean, I'll like eat food out sometimes, but that's like, like, is that?
00:57:20
Felicia Devine
I get French fries.
00:57:22
Natalie Richards
Occasionally we'll get a beef tallow French fry from Portillo's.
00:57:22
Felicia Devine
I eat food out.
00:57:27
Natalie Richards
Shoot me.
00:57:28
Felicia Devine
Speaking of tallow.
00:57:32
Felicia Devine
I don't know how I feel about tallow. i I recently discovered whipped lard.
00:57:41
Natalie Richards
Oh, absolutely. i had to find lard on the black market around here. I had to like illegally purchase rendered lard.
00:57:48
Felicia Devine
Lard.
00:57:49
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:57:50
Felicia Devine
I got.
00:57:51
Natalie Richards
And it I only bought it because it's somebody that, or they only sold it to me because it's somebody that Kyle works with.
00:57:55
Felicia Devine
You know it. Yeah. I got whipped lard. And instead of using – because I like the idea of tallow.
00:58:03
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:58:03
Felicia Devine
I just cannot stand the smell of it. I don't know why I'm triggered.
00:58:07
Natalie Richards
Honey.
00:58:07
Felicia Devine
Even if it's like lavender tallow, like like any little hint of tallow, i just like don't like the smell of it.
00:58:13
Natalie Richards
ah I got one that doesn't smell at all.
00:58:17
Felicia Devine
Zero smell?
00:58:17
Natalie Richards
Zero.
00:58:19
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:58:19
Natalie Richards
And it's not scented at all.
00:58:19
Felicia Devine
I don't – oh. I don't know.
00:58:21
Natalie Richards
it just Maybe and they need to whip it more.
00:58:23
Felicia Devine
There's something – Maybe. I don't know. I mean, the only tallow product I really do like is the Sky and Soul Lip stuff that we use.
00:58:26
Natalie Richards
it depends on how they...
00:58:30
Natalie Richards
ah ah
00:58:31
Felicia Devine
Love that chapstick.
00:58:32
Natalie Richards
So good.
00:58:33
Felicia Devine
But this whipped lard, I put it on my face.
00:58:35
Natalie Richards
Whipped lard. Interesting.
00:58:38
Felicia Devine
I literally am glistening and glowing. My pores are not fogged.
00:58:40
Natalie Richards
Love it.
00:58:42
Felicia Devine
So from my research, lard has a very similar lipid profile to human skin.
00:58:49
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:58:50
Felicia Devine
And so it literally like, it just looks so smooth and natural and it's so moisturizing, but it's not sticky and it doesn't smell weird. ah
00:58:59
Natalie Richards
Love it.
00:59:00
Felicia Devine
and love it.
00:59:00
Natalie Richards
Okay. I have two massive jars of lard that I just bought that are sitting in my basement right now and I'm going to go with it.
00:59:04
Felicia Devine
Okay. You need to whip it and put on your face.
00:59:07
Natalie Richards
hu Okay. I will.
00:59:08
Felicia Devine
I didn't know that there was like a, a Nixon lard in Illinois.
00:59:12
Natalie Richards
It's not even, it just was like really hard to find like lard that people don't just like keep for themselves after they process a pig.
00:59:18
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Or like poisonous lard.
00:59:21
Natalie Richards
So, or to find like a well, well raised pig, you know?
00:59:25
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:27
Natalie Richards
So it was, it was tough to find. So I like, I had had to message her and she goes, oh, we don't really sell it.
00:59:29
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:59:32
Natalie Richards
And then we realized, like she realized that I know them and she goes okay, I'll sell it to you.
00:59:35
Felicia Devine
I'll sell to you.
00:59:36
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:59:37
Felicia Devine
I'll sell to you.
00:59:39
Natalie Richards
But it's like, yeah, literally.
00:59:39
Felicia Devine
Bring cash. Oh my gosh. That is so good.
00:59:43
Natalie Richards
So I had to had to find it somewhere.
00:59:45
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:59:45
Natalie Richards
And I did, thankfully.
00:59:46
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:59:46
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:59:47
Felicia Devine
I don't want to use gel in Giuseppe's hair when we're styling it, so I'll use lard.
00:59:51
Natalie Richards
I love that. That's so cute.
00:59:53
Felicia Devine
I know. So he has a little lard baby.
00:59:54
Natalie Richards
I have to get the the honest detangling spray for jeans curls. And we have to do that and brush it all the way through every day and do the whole thing. But maybe I could use lard.
01:00:04
Felicia Devine
How does it not get matted?
01:00:06
Natalie Richards
ah
01:00:06
Felicia Devine
Yeah, you should use lard.
01:00:07
Natalie Richards
It does get matted. It gets matted when he sleeps.
01:00:08
Felicia Devine
It does. Mm-hmm.
Episode Reflection & Future Plans
01:00:09
Natalie Richards
Yeah. And then I just have every day spray it down, brush it out, and that's it.
01:00:13
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. It's so cute.
01:00:16
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
01:00:16
Felicia Devine
He has the best girls.
01:00:16
Natalie Richards
I, his hair is the best.
01:00:18
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
01:00:19
Natalie Richards
So yeah, we're not cutting it and he's going to have like butt length curls.
01:00:20
Felicia Devine
yeah
01:00:24
Felicia Devine
Yes. So cute. Precious.
01:00:27
Natalie Richards
Maybe not. Maybe not.
01:00:29
Felicia Devine
We'll see.
01:00:30
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh.
01:00:31
Felicia Devine
Well, that was fun.
01:00:31
Natalie Richards
Wow. That was so fun.
01:00:34
Felicia Devine
What a great episode.
01:00:34
Natalie Richards
like this was good.
01:00:35
Felicia Devine
We shared a lot of our opinions.
01:00:38
Natalie Richards
Still didn't get to half the things that we wanted to talk about.
01:00:40
Felicia Devine
I know.
01:00:40
Natalie Richards
Amazing.
01:00:41
Felicia Devine
Amazing how that works out. Good thing there's always next week.
01:00:44
Natalie Richards
Just add it to the list. That is so funny.
01:00:48
Felicia Devine
There's a running docket of things we want to talk about and we'll get there. um
01:00:51
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
01:00:52
Felicia Devine
i mean, eventually we'll talk about our business.
01:00:57
Felicia Devine
Every episode we have intention about talking about the businesses that we run and like not even like to like teach anything about business because like we're not we're not in it to like be teaching.
01:01:06
Natalie Richards
Mm-mm.
01:01:08
Felicia Devine
But like we always find that we don't even get to the part where we talk about business because we're just talking about motherhood.
01:01:15
Natalie Richards
It's kind of our life right now.
01:01:17
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:01:17
Natalie Richards
So I think it's fine.
01:01:17
Felicia Devine
Yeah. But we'll get there. i about Stay tuned if you're really in it for the business.
01:01:21
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Thanks for listening to episode six and we will see you next week.
01:01:25
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:01:28
Felicia Devine
All righty. We'll see you then.
01:01:29
Natalie Richards
Bye.