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63. Anahata's Purpose 2025
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As tradition dictates, we sat down this week to recap our incredible experiences at Anahata’s Purpose 2025. It was so cathartic, so ephemeral, so needed… And we’re already looking forward to next year. <3
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Transcript
The Cheese Discovery
00:00:24
Speaker
I wanted to tell you I'm very excited. I found a food item that I haven't been actively looking for because I wasn't finding that it was going to be available in the U.S. Hmm.
00:00:39
Speaker
um But I had been looking for it for a while a while ago and happened across it yesterday. So, um you know how i told you that ah me and Jim went Wegmans yesterday.
00:01:01
Speaker
i always get Walgreens and Wegmans mixed up. Yeah. I shouldn't because I go to Walgreens super often. But anyway, we went to Wegmans yesterday. All right.
00:01:13
Speaker
And they always have an amazing cheese selection. um like an amazing cheese selection and i had actually when i was originally on the hunt for this item i had gone to wegman's specifically to look at their cheese selection because i was like surely if any grocery store in the vicinity would have it it'd be wegman's but they didn't at the time when i was looking But we were so we were looking through the cheeses and sort of just making our silly commentary about it.
00:01:49
Speaker
Like everything that we came across, like we usually do. And Jim turns around and he points at this one and he's like, look at that horrible color. Okay.
00:02:00
Speaker
On that cheese. And I turn around and what do I find? Brunost, which is swedish cheese, cheese. brown cheese and you can see woof it's on my toast now it looks like liverwurst or something it's caramelized cheese so it's sweet yummy it's so fucking good yeah that sounds good oh my god
00:02:33
Speaker
I have wanted to try it for so long and I've like seen it on particularly Cecilia Bloomdahl's YouTube channel. um And, you know, cause she loves it and she always has some.
00:02:46
Speaker
And so she's always like putting it on her breakfast toast and stuff. And so i was like, I really want to try it, but it doesn't seem like it's available in the U S and here it
Nostalgia and Cheese Debates
00:02:59
Speaker
is.
00:02:59
Speaker
Well, shit. And congratulations.
00:03:04
Speaker
Shit and congratulations? Shitting. Like shitting. Shitting. Like fucking. Like fucking congratulations. Shitting instead of fucking.
00:03:15
Speaker
At first I thought you meant like I am shitting my congratulations to you. Oh my god. It's so good. Even Jim likes it. Cool.
00:03:26
Speaker
And he's the one who was like that's the worst color I've ever seen on a cheese.
00:03:33
Speaker
Because, yeah, it doesn't look good until you know what it is. Yeah. And it's caramelized. It's delicious. And it's like, it is sweet, but it's not super sweet. Like, it's it's similar to the way that, like, brie is a sweet cheese. Huh. But it goes on savory stuff, so too.
00:03:51
Speaker
Yeah. 10 out of 10, dude. Nice. Love it. There was a white cheese that I was buying before. Honestly, I cannot remember.
00:04:03
Speaker
if it was before you and I were reunited or not, but there was this really cool store. trying to remember what it was called. It's not there anymore now because of course not, but it was like village something or something village. I don't remember for sure, but pardon me.
00:04:22
Speaker
They had like prepackaged cubes of various cheeses On like, you know, like one of those little white styrofoam things that you would find under some raw meat.
00:04:35
Speaker
And then wrapped with saran wrap. And I was buying those every so often because I was driving by there on like one of my... mid-work, mid-day, mid, between route, mid-day extra work things, I'd have time to stop in there and get some food and stuff. And there was one of the cheeses in there that was like a sweet cheese. And they told me before what it was. And I think it was a caramelized something or other. It had some kind of sweetness in it that was so yummy.
00:05:09
Speaker
A European cheese. I don't know. I feel like it was like... I
00:05:17
Speaker
i feel like it was something really stupid, like a white American cheese. But it had like caramelized... Something somebody made maybe locally or something. It was good though.
00:05:29
Speaker
You ever heard of white American cheese? Usually it's yellow. Who the fuck do you think I am? don't know. White American cheese? You think I haven't heard of that? It's the only cheese I eat.
00:05:41
Speaker
What are you talking about? Like a white American cheese? Yeah, usually it's like yellow, like the fucking Kraft American cheese singles slices, you know? Yellow. Okay, so like whenever I go like any sandwich shop and they ask me what I don't want for cheese, the only cheese thing I choose is American cheese. What the fuck is wrong with you?
00:06:02
Speaker
Why do you think I don't know what is? I usually don't ever see white American cheese anywhere. So I didn't know anyone I don't see yellow American cheese
The Airbnb Adventure
00:06:10
Speaker
anywhere. What do you think Kraft singles are? They're yellow. cheese.
00:06:15
Speaker
They're cheese product. But they're yellow.
00:06:20
Speaker
They're bright ass yellow. I just think it's so funny what you don't think I know exists. I didn't think anybody did. um just didn't think it was a thing. um my god. think American cheese was a normal thing. I thought it was just some weird random thing I saw. It's like the most default thing I've ever seen.
00:06:38
Speaker
Okay.
00:06:41
Speaker
It just makes me laugh. There's nothing against you. It's literally that I just didn't know that it like was a normal thing. know it's not against me as I eat with my mouth full.
00:06:53
Speaker
I chew and talk with my mouth full.
00:06:59
Speaker
I'm just shocked. I don't know. White American cheese is like the default cheese. Maisie seems to want to be part of the thing today.
00:07:11
Speaker
You've never gone to a subway and seen that the cheese that they have, like one of the options is white American cheese. Yeah, I guess it is white. but Because like the cheddar one is the one that's orange or yellow, right? Right. Yeah.
00:07:27
Speaker
Sorry about my little coughs. It's going to be a kind of common thing today. Yeah. We both got shot voices. I'm like really glad that my throat doesn't hurt and I feel bad that yours does.
00:07:39
Speaker
I took some adult Robitussin. adult robotescent yeah because i have children's sequel in the house as well but and i made i brewed my um ginger lemon turmeric and honey tea well i don't brew the honey in it i add it afterwards right so i sent you a picture of the label on the brown cheese In Swedish, it's Bronost, but I think it's, I don't know how it's pronounced, so but it's like Gjettost in Norwegian.
00:08:14
Speaker
All I see is Ski Queen. Yeah, Ski Queen. That's the brand. Creamy caramel cheese. Yeah, nor from Norway.
00:08:25
Speaker
Everything is super blurry, so I can't read anything else. Well, the label's been thrown away now, so...
00:08:34
Speaker
but yeah it's phenomenal
00:08:40
Speaker
and if you ever see it in a store which would probably have to be a Wegmans if anywhere um definitely grab it I don't think we have Wegmans around here really? yeah I thought it was a national brand I'll see where the the closest one is you know what Wegmans is right?
00:09:02
Speaker
Like you're familiar. It's only on the in the.
00:09:08
Speaker
There's nothing closer than like Pennsylvania.
00:09:13
Speaker
Wow. Like the most northwest corner of Pennsylvania. Oh, yeah, i see Erie. Yeah. Erie, Pennsylvania.
00:09:26
Speaker
So it's not national. It's New England. Well, we have them in Virginia, too. Yeah. So was maybe just East Coast. Yeah.
00:09:37
Speaker
I don't see any in like New Jersey. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. So last week was my birthday. Yes, it was. And we got to hang out on my birthday.
00:09:48
Speaker
Yes, we did. At Camp Ramblewood the day before. Camp Ramblewood. Officially started. Yeah. This is what we had been talking about. forever forever forever probably ad nauseum got to have a lovely extended lunch starting with just you and then yeah yeah well actually injur it's funny because like as soon as we got there it was when you had to leave yeah so
00:10:19
Speaker
i sat and ordered stuff while you left. Yeah.
00:10:25
Speaker
But it was fine because that meant that the food was there when you guys got back so you could eat. um ah Yeah. but But we should probably rewind because we had a fun little ah happening happen the night before when we were traveling to our Airbnb.
00:10:45
Speaker
Okay. Do you remember? i don't but but I don't know a specific thing you're talking about if there's a specific thing. So we came from different places.
00:10:59
Speaker
Yeah, we both left totally different times. We left at different times. we were supposed to have different travel times. Yeah, amongst like lengths of travel time. Yeah. And then we happened to hit like I hit the right amount of traffic. You had the right amount of no traffic.
00:11:18
Speaker
yeah So that we literally arrived at the Airbnb within minutes of each other. Like like a minute or two. Yeah, literally. had to pee so fucking bad. i pulled in and you were messaging me like, I can't find it. Like you must have drove past it once and circled around. I did because I was, i went to like the next road, um turned left and then like pulled over because I was like, I just don't, like it was not clear on the road.
00:11:47
Speaker
Yeah, map where the actual house like which house was the number we were looking for. And like, I was like, I can't see it all like how am I supposed to tell where there's a gravel driveway like, yeah, it was really crazy because I remember the the picture of what the front of the house look like from the Airbnb posting.
00:12:06
Speaker
ah And I don't think I had looked through any of the exterior photos. Okay. When you sent me the listing, I only looked at the interior. As soon as my map was basically saying like, you're right here. i just turned.
00:12:18
Speaker
And I was like, I was pretty sure that I had gotten the right driveway. Well, good. So I pulled. I was lucky because they were tightly packed. Because what? They were tightly packed. the way the pencils houses are Yeah.
00:12:31
Speaker
So then as soon as you were like, I can't find it. I'm like, okay, I'll go stand in front with my flashlight on. Perfect. Because I wasn't, it was I wasn't even sure. I knew you were going to be arriving within minutes of me, but I wasn't sure if you were there yet. So like when you said that you would do that, I was like, oh, thank God. yeah For real.
00:12:49
Speaker
So I think it was like 1037 when we got like, I got there pretty much got there like a minute or so later. Yeah, exactly. And I probably would have gotten there at the exact same time if I hadn't missed it. Yeah.
00:13:01
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, I actually think you were behind me and then I might have turned in and you and then you passed because I think because I so i remember seeing headlights behind me and thinking, I wonder if that's Molly right there. And then like, I believe they would have you were like i think I would have noticed.
00:13:16
Speaker
I don't think there was anybody directly ahead of me. Because I think I would have I knew the color of your car. You know, you got that bright, bright blue. So like, i think I would have noticed that color of car in front of me.
00:13:29
Speaker
yeah i mean, like, I know that's Christina. Especially I would have seen your license plate. Yeah, which we won't say. But yeah, you know what it is but it's a vanity plate that's very obvious and very easy to recognize.
00:13:42
Speaker
And I would have seen that and been like, yeah so I don't think I was behind you. So, but yeah moving on. Moving on. So that was fun, though.
Birthday Celebrations and Culinary Delights
00:13:52
Speaker
And then we got there and we just fucking like, I mean, you peed. And then we just like collapsed, basically.
00:13:59
Speaker
Yeah. um Not like literally, but like we did. We just sort of like deflated. We brought our like bags up and we were just like, o and I had gotten food from. Was it the. Oh, was the. hour Sheets.
00:14:13
Speaker
The sheets with the sultry. Voice girl. Yeah. Order number 590. With me and my sultry voice that's all shot now.
00:14:25
Speaker
Yeah, in case it hasn't been made clear yet, we were our voices are shot. Christina might actually be getting sick. I'm I don't feel sick. I feel fine. I just feel throaty. My throat is throaty.
00:14:37
Speaker
Yeah, like my I don't feel sick, but my throat hurts really bad. And it's been various amounts of sore or irritated for the last week, basically. Right. Yeah. i woke up Thursday morning feeling kind of funky to you because our cabin was like not heated.
00:14:53
Speaker
Yeah. And we had fans going and I was freezing and miserable. And I woke up in the morning just like, fuck. but Like, I... how Don't get me wrong. i was gonna say, i i like, don't get me wrong. i definitely appreciate airflow when I sleep, no matter how cold it is.
00:15:11
Speaker
But I don't understand why we left the fans on that first night. Because when there was, like... two fans three fans on and two of them were on low and one or two one at least one was low and one or two were on like high or something and i was like freezing and i was complaining about it and i think sierra was in there and i was like dude this this is bullshit these fucking fans and she's like let's turn them off and i'm i'm like molly will complain
00:15:44
Speaker
so Why didn't you say that? Because I knew you would want them on. And I just said, no, she goes, let's just turn them on low. She says, let's just turn them on low and see if she notices. my God.
00:15:55
Speaker
We just turned them on low. was the one morning. was the one got and turned the fans
00:16:02
Speaker
and who got up and turned the off yeah well You didn't even consult me.
00:16:10
Speaker
You just assumed. So don't blame and would have said let's turn them off. We didn't need them. They were so cold.
00:16:22
Speaker
We did not need them. Oh my god. Granted, my husband was sick the week before I came. That's true, but that was for a different reason. But no, his shit started like this. It was weird. it was like So my kid also started with something like this as well. And his teacher noticed that he wasn't feeling good and he was putting his head on his desk a lot. So it's very possible that whatever I have our and my kid has oh ah might have started with whatever John had.
00:16:54
Speaker
So anyway, I don't know. Weird. hope that I didn't pass it on to anybody there. I think we would have heard about it by now. It took a while for it to kick in with me.
00:17:07
Speaker
Well, regardless, um we're getting ahead of ourselves. weather was quite cold and there was no heat in the cabins. yeah But we're still getting ahead of ourselves because we still haven't talked about your fucking birthday. oh my God, the lunch.
00:17:22
Speaker
We're going to finish talking about that. Yeah, so like we got up and we got breakfast, first of all. Yeah. oh my God. The breakfast was so yummy. Oh my God. God. You really are sick because where is your brain? can this cafe ah so good. going to slurp my water real quick.
00:17:43
Speaker
That cactus cafe was literally on the same block. as our airbnb we just went to the very end of the the block on the corner and yeah it was perfect it was perfect was so good i will say i think you got the good dish because i mean ah mine was fine like i ate it it was fine but it wasn't very flavorful had the chile piles with the like fried egg on top Yeah, I think like what it was missing was just like, well, first of all, like chorizo is usually a lot more flavorful and a lot more spicy.
00:18:21
Speaker
Yeah. um But also like it could have gone. It could have done with some like pico de gallo on it. Yeah. Would have been good. And some like shredded lettuce.
00:18:33
Speaker
And I feel like I don't remember. There has to have been cheese, but it didn't have any flavor. so it was it was fine. But it wasn't like the best.
00:18:43
Speaker
Yeah. But I'm glad that your chilequiles was delicious. Yeah. And the coffee was good. Yeah. And the croissant with ah cheese and egg and something else on it I don't remember. Bacon or something.
00:19:00
Speaker
Right. And great I ate a few bites of that. But then I kept the rest. And then I ate the rest of that the next morning. Yeah, I had like the second half of my chorizo wrap that evening.
00:19:13
Speaker
But yeah, so we like, we did that. And then we decided to just ah trek on over to the restaurant, the pub. Yeah.
00:19:24
Speaker
The fainting goat. Yeah, we went from one restaurant to the next restaurant. yeah we It was an hour and 45 minutes at least to drive. and Yeah, something like an hour and a half, something like that.
00:19:36
Speaker
And like, it was basically, our job was to post up somewhere. so we could pick up our people from the airport. Yeah. At two different times.
00:19:48
Speaker
Yeah. So like we get to the restaurant, the fainting goat, and i post up and you go get Ginger from the airport.
00:19:59
Speaker
And while you're gone, I order some apps because I was like, it's time we got to. I mean, we had just eaten, but like also like it was already lunchtime again by then. Right.
00:20:11
Speaker
And I was like, Ginger's probably hungry, too. And so by the time you got back, the food was arrived. Our waitress was super, super sweet. She was very excited. She was so hyped that it was your birthday. she was like Especially that it was your 50th.
00:20:24
Speaker
yeah And she stayed past her shift. <unk> helping Yeah. So, so sweet. Yeah, it was good. Oh, my God. um So we got to yeah hang out for, what, almost two hours. Yeah.
00:20:38
Speaker
Yeah. and Yeah. You got your but notification that Sierra was at the airport. Yeah. That she was landing. So I went and got her and then came back and we sat for like at least another hour.
00:20:50
Speaker
hello and actually we had food food. Yeah, like we all got like our appetizers and stuff. I feel so bad that Sierra ordered the pierogies and there was only three of them. I know.
00:21:01
Speaker
I was like, what the fuck is that? She was like, she was like, I don't mind. I just wish I'd known. ah but really They were really good. So like, I'm glad it was worth it. But yeah, I had a yummy stoop.
00:21:15
Speaker
And what else? And I can't even remember what I had. i can't remember what I got. i am trying to remember oh something with like spicy sausages what do you call it that was the stew wasn't it and do and do we and do we that was there was a pasta dish that i got that had and do we sausage in it oh it was it tortellini yeah something like that yeah and the soup was like a potato cream of broccoli type deal or something yeah yeah sorry it was like a cheddar broccoli
00:21:48
Speaker
Yep. and Sorry. um Fuck. You guys were a mess. I'm not even going to try and like hide it at this point. I can't remember what I got, dude. I'm just kind of in pain and I'm just dealing with it. so I feel so bad.
00:22:08
Speaker
Oh my god. going to see if I got a picture because I don't think I did, actually. know. I don't think I took a picture of mine. I know I took a picture of breakfast, but not lunch. um did you get your receipt back from ginger i think she gave it to you yeah yeah i didn't necessarily need it i was just like whatever you guys want to pay me i don't care but but i guess i don't i don't keep those receipts for any reason we yeah yeah oh my god i didn't take a picture of my entree at that restaurant i only took a picture of the jumbo pretzel and the reuben egg rolls those were good
00:22:43
Speaker
They were so good. Oh, my God. Also, Ginger and I had a couple of cocktails. You did. That's right. That's right. Some kind of seasonal martini. It was like, oh, pecan pie martini was what I had. Oh, yeah. She had I had two of those. She had two regular margaritas.
00:23:02
Speaker
Right. And I remember whatever glass, whatever Sierra had ordered came in that cool slanted glass. Yes! Yeah, that was cool. no I wouldn't mind having a couple of those just for home. Her margarita came in a glass where the stem was a cactus.
00:23:22
Speaker
That's right, i remember. So cute. That's classic for margaritas, though. Yeah, but it was awesome. Yeah, yeah. I loved it. Oh, was it? and i think it maybe it was like a brisket sandwich or something that I ordered.
00:23:37
Speaker
that sounds... I remember having fries on the side. Yeah. Yeah. Ginger got a big platter of like veggies and hummus and stuff. Right. Delish.
00:23:48
Speaker
who Delish. Yeah, it was fucking good. The fainting goat, you guys, outside of Philly. Fucking look it up and go. It was good. Oh my god. And really, like, huge.
00:24:01
Speaker
Huge. Like, it wasn't super busy, but like, I feel like even if it was, it wouldn't feel like it was busy because it just was so big. I didn't, you know, not cramped at all.
00:24:12
Speaker
didn't huge, but it was like, sp it was spacious enough. I think it was deceptively large because like looking at from the front, it looks like such a small building. True. That is true.
00:24:23
Speaker
Yes. But yeah, like I noticed it just was like really deep and there was like a whole section in the back that was like not even. And if you're listening to this and you can get there, try the pecan pie martini.
00:24:37
Speaker
It's so good. If they still have it. Well, it's seasonal. Yeah, because if it's seasonal. For October, probably. I know, but like October is about to be over. First of all, maybe it goes through November.
00:24:49
Speaker
Right. And also maybe people are listening in 2027. We're talking about October 2025. were talking about october twenty twenty five So yeah. So if it's October of any year, check it out. Maybe they have that. Or maybe they have new cool cocktails that we don't even know about yet.
Arrival at Camp Ramblewood
00:25:08
Speaker
All right. We are 26 minutes into this shit. We got to start talking about Anaha. Yeah. Anyway. so After that, we piled into our cars, Ginger in your car, Sierra in my car, and we went, we made it all the way to Ramblewood.
00:25:30
Speaker
It was only like an hour and a half from there. Not too terribly far. But it was pitch black by the time we got there. Oh, yes. yeah and It's a new venue.
00:25:43
Speaker
And so we weren't sure exactly where to go. But luckily, we figured it out. Yeah. um with some trial and error but we figured it out we made it we got checked in we got our wristbands which i'm still wearing mine yeah me too i gotta take it off and tape it inside the front of my notebook that's my tradition yeah all of my wristbands i've kept i'll show you actually inside this notebook
00:26:13
Speaker
Just my three three wristbands I have. And I'm going to put the orange one right next to this one. Awesome. I know I still have mine, but I don't know where the notebooks are. the notebookbooks are that i Yeah. had Yeah.
00:26:27
Speaker
So, yeah, we got there and then we managed to find the yeah but cabin, which was also a little like not treacherous necessarily, but it was a little like, yeah.
00:26:39
Speaker
where are we going when you're walking in the dark it was treacherous because it was like a lot of weird rocks and like roots yeah things like making yeah making and and it was on a little weird slanted hill thing yeah but i mean like even navigating like to the place where we could pull up our cars to unload right like i was a little like uncertain but I don't know. I think it was just it. Well, obviously, it was because it was a new place entirely. Yeah. But b because it was pitch black, we just like couldn't see anything.
00:27:10
Speaker
Right. And like, you know, things made a lot more sense in the daylight. yeah made it But yeah, but we did find the cabin. We found the like you know best place to pull up and be able to unload our cars. It didn't we didn't end up having to carry anything very far.
00:27:27
Speaker
Right. So that was good because we had a lot of stuff. We basically moved in. Yeah, I brought a whole car load full. And I brought furniture for you.
00:27:40
Speaker
Just one furniture, just ah just a table. Two. But still. Two furnitures. One table. And one shelf. Yes, but you didn't use the shelf there.
00:27:52
Speaker
no right we yeah you didn't use the table you moved in with the table you wanted to use the table i was like let's bring it in because that is going to be my nightstand essentially yeah and it works it worked it worked it was good very well it was awesome yeah it was pretty fun but yeah we hauled our shit in and then more people arrived and we had you know a big like i would say reunion but like we were meeting some of these people for the first time you were meeting most of them for the first time yeah yeah even though they're friends that we've had on marco for a year now yeah um
00:28:29
Speaker
um and we just we just had a nice time it was kind of late by the time that everybody was arriving And so we did sort of just like set up our beds and like got cozy, even though it was freezing.
00:28:45
Speaker
Left the fans on, which you cannot blame me for. You made that choice, not me. I knew that you were going to be mad about it if we turned but you were wrong because I would have said, let's turn the fans off if anybody asked me.
00:28:59
Speaker
So don't blame me, yubbish. Okay. And that was your 50th birthday. it was good it was and i sat and i harvested a whole bunch of microgreens for you did oh and they were so good like a full-grown broccoli microgreens yeah ah and they turned out amazing yeah they then there the rest of them are in my fridge right now hell yeah i'm just really glad that people enjoyed them and actually ate them Oh my god, yeah. They added some much needed nutrition to our chaos meals.
00:29:38
Speaker
But yeah, they were they were really good. And
Exploring Classes and Personal Growth
00:29:41
Speaker
we went to sleep. We had some great lighting. I loved that people put up all the string lights and then you had the lights under your bed that really added to the mood.
00:29:52
Speaker
yeah um they were wonderful i love them i highlightd that i handed out to people and then some of them decided to put them up around like the posts and then like around the frames and then i had that rope light that turned colors and we i think the first night we settled on purple and then after that we did red yeah or the first couple nights were purple and then the last couple nights were red yeah basically um they were just like the best vibes and it it meshed really well with the um red exit sign and that was really bright yeah it was bright holy shit and that campfire light that i was able to hang from the ceiling that was fun that was really cute i liked it complaining about it though they were like it yeah bright
00:30:35
Speaker
Yeah. Well, if it wasn't for them, I would have left it up because I really liked it. It was cute as hell. It was, yeah, super vibey. It was great. And so, yeah the next morning i woke up, I turned off the fans because I have logic.
00:30:51
Speaker
but oh And we turned on, i think we didn't, we also didn't have the space heater on that night. Yeah, which we didn't turn it on till the morning.
00:31:03
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um So, yeah, like, and I could feel like congestion, but I didn't feel like my throat didn't hurt necessarily. Yeah, it was just cold and dry. So like it was it if it hurt at all, it was because it was dry. Yeah.
00:31:19
Speaker
And I'm still trying to hydrate even now. I was getting that weird, like, ah little bit of a gland swelling in the neck and then, like, little sore spot on the inside of my throat. And it was like that pretty pretty much the whole week.
00:31:35
Speaker
but yeah a couple fits of coughing because couple different times i had that awful tickle in my throat and it's like nothing you can do no clearing your throat or whatever or swallowing or trying to drink right or will make it go away and so then you're coughing for like five minutes yeah that a couple different times i had to excuse myself out of joe's class on sunday because i started coughing oh I wish that like you could have gone to the the medical tent and they might have had like lozenges and stuff.
00:32:08
Speaker
I had my water and it was all right. Once it passed, it was OK. But yeah. But yeah. So Thursday morning, I think, was the morning that we got up and then um Christian came over and hung out and started reading people's ah birth charts. Yeah. She was so good at that, dude. Oh, my God. She was amazing.
00:32:31
Speaker
She's amazing. And I'm to have to send you the recording of, uh, when I recorded her doing yours. Yeah. Um, cause yeah, everything was fucking spot on.
00:32:42
Speaker
And when she's taught by Teresa, of course she'd be brilliant. Like, I mean like she definitely has a natural talent for it, yeah but like Teresa is incredible. And so like anybody that Teresa teaches is going to do well, I believe. That's awesome.
00:32:55
Speaker
Yeah. So that was awesome. And, uh, and that was our morning. It was just so chill and like, cool. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and some people went to classes.
00:33:07
Speaker
I didn't end up going to any classes on Thursday. Me neither. I think I was a little too anxious, but I did walk around with Katie. Um, we meandered through the whole, well, not the entire camp, but like we, we meandered through a good portion of it, just sort of looking around getting our bearings. Okay.
00:33:27
Speaker
And, uh, We ran into Grandpa Kim on our little excursion. And we went over to the check-in area where Phoenix was working.
00:33:39
Speaker
um And like we didn't really get to like hug her because she was in the middle of checking people in. But she was like, hi! So it was good. And that was also when Rachel showed up.
00:33:52
Speaker
And ah that's when her walkie-talkie made a crazy noise and she made that incredible face that katie happened to catch on camera that was so funny that made me laugh so hard i'm gonna have to ask for those photos that girl is full of faces meant she is oh my god this face is um she does ah i love it yeah but yeah so that was fun oh I don't know what I was doing. I was chilling out in in the camp.
00:34:23
Speaker
Yeah. I do remember motivated to get out of the bed and take a shower. I remember you messaged and you were like, where'd you go? And i was like, we're wandering, but we're coming back now. And we, I think that was when we started to like accumulate or like start to like spill out all the food onto the two beds, the food beds.
00:34:45
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And we went back and got like, we did some grazing over the snacks. and And you cooked.
00:34:57
Speaker
Yeah, I started preparing a bunch of chicken and vegetables with some seasonings. It was delicious. yeah I'm really glad that people liked it and i and that nobody got sick.
00:35:08
Speaker
was so worried because the chicken was still totally frozen. i was like, oh my god. Yeah, but it turned out fine. you You got that good system going where you were able to sort of thaw it on the crock pot while you were waiting. Yeah.
00:35:24
Speaker
Fitting stuff on the crock pot that was like boiling hot. And so was melting all the shit. And the chicken was even starting to get cooked a little bit on there. It was funny. And then yeah i there was only a couple of breasts that I cut into that were not cooked. But the thing was actually...
00:35:41
Speaker
um What was weird was that i didn't even have to cut into the ones that weren't cooked. It was obvious because they were like pink on top. I was like, oh, I don't even have to cut that. It's like, let me put this back on now and flip it on the other side. Because I think because on my George Foreman, I was also setting chicken breasts on top of it.
00:36:01
Speaker
Oh, yeah. And I think it was taking the heat. I think it was taking away the heat from the top grill. and um making the chicken not cook on the top sides so anyhow was very hard to describe it but if it makes sense yeah no i was flipping the chickens over and cooking them and i flipped them in different directions like once or yeah too they all got thoroughly cooked and nobody got sick yeah um and they were delicious so it was good it was it was uh very very good and but it it did take a while so people went to the opening circle while we did that but i was fine i really i needed to chill i was getting anxious yeah
00:36:47
Speaker
Excuse me. and And Katie stayed behind and helped me a lot. Yeah. Yeah. um And we were just chilling. She did so much cool stuff. Like she decorated the tent outside. Yeah, dude.
00:37:00
Speaker
She did a lot of cool stuff. So yeah I really appreciated her help. Yeah. Honestly. She was amazing. She was a powerhouse. Yeah. For sure. ah Amazing.
00:37:11
Speaker
But yeah, that was a good evening overall, even though I was getting anxious. And I remember, like, feeling, like, realizing it was time to go to bed. And i was just like, because I knew that, like, basically, as soon as I woke up, it was going time for me to get ready and go to teach class. know. I'm getting anxious thinking about Like, am. i'm thinking about it now. And I'm like, oh, my God.
00:37:31
Speaker
You must have been, like, terrified in a way. was. i was I was. was. And i I was just sort of like, like I kept having to remind myself like, You know that it's going to turn out fine and you know that people are going to get what they need out of it, no matter how you feel about how it goes. So stop fretting.
00:37:49
Speaker
And that turned out to be true. Yes. I have had multiple people, i mean, like immediately afterward and, you know, since ah since the end of Anahata's, reach out and be like, thank you so much for doing that.
00:38:07
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. so i'm So turned out so good. um I like, I think I mentioned to you, I think that the Friday morning class went better than the Sunday morning class.
00:38:21
Speaker
And I think it was because of the size of the class. It was a little, yeah, it was easier to get more engagement. um And like, but it was, it was good. i don't know. i I'm pleased, even though there were things I wished could have gone maybe a little differently, i am pleased by how they did go.
00:38:42
Speaker
And I learned what I will need to ask for if I do it again next year. Yeah. um Like, particularly a longer time slot for classes. um Because an hour was not long enough. Right.
00:38:59
Speaker
Yeah. And I could have, I don't know, i I think that when I asked for the time slot, I hadn't even like fully sussed out what I was going to talk about. And so I was mostly preoccupied with making sure I filled an hour without realizing that I might need more than an hour.
00:39:18
Speaker
um So next year, I'm either going to ask for an hour and a half or maybe even two hours. um so we'll see um but yeah but yeah that that's the thing like so it has been in our descriptions um for the last few weeks uh before we took our brief break okay but uh i taught ah class on healing the inner teenager And I don't think I ever really got to, i guess we did talk a little bit about um the subject matter when when we first announced that I was going to teach.
00:40:00
Speaker
And that's the thing that, you know, that's what drew people to it was the knowledge that this is not something that gets talked but talked about enough, you know?
00:40:11
Speaker
yeah It's all the focus is on the inner child and not the teenager. So like, and and that's exactly why i wanted to talk about it in the first place. That's why I wanted to overcome my anxiety of talking in front of people and teach about this because I was like, we need to be having these conversations. This is an integral part of our healing journeys and arguably some of the worst trauma has occurred during our teen years like yours and mine and like um so many people that i know yeah and like that's the stuff that we've got to be able to work through and the inner child can't touch it yeah yeah yeah i didn't really have a lot of
00:41:10
Speaker
traumatic things happened to me until after my formative years which they say is over with by the time you're eight basically yeah you know that's when my mom got married to my stepdad and that's when like you know actually as soon as I hit puberty the verbal abuse started yeah so I mean yes there was trauma with like my bio dad being gone like he was you know, what do you call it?
00:41:38
Speaker
Deployed over, you know, on a ship or whatever. Yeah. um A few different times. And then like, so I didn't even really get to know him that well when I was younger. and then all of a sudden they were getting divorced.
00:41:52
Speaker
But it wasn't traumatizing because like, it I think when you're young and those things are happening, like, maybe a bit confusing but like yeah don't have any bad like memories surrounding yeah that stuff you know that kind of yeah i was gonna say like that kind of stuff i mean like it's trauma but it's a different kind it's like the little t trauma it's the complex trauma um i incidentally if recently was overhearing ah some of the stuff that was being talked about in jim's outpatient program um
00:42:25
Speaker
um on monday actually and they listened to a video of somebody talking about little t trauma versus big t trauma and little t trauma was described as not necessarily bad things happening but the absence of good things happening over a long period of time oh wow um And that is, I think, a pretty accurate descriptor for like what both of us experienced.
00:42:52
Speaker
Yeah. um Like we didn't have the emotional support that we needed when we were young. We didn't have the like through validation and the like caring, the softness, the gentle parenting that the millennial parents all do now.
00:43:10
Speaker
You know, um we didn't have that when we were when we were little. but then you know we had like more of the complex trauma and the big t trauma more so in our teen years yep yeah for sure so did you um like i don't want to just like gloss so like don't want to gloss over my class necessarily but i was wondering if you had any thing you wanted to say about it before we move on to the because
00:43:43
Speaker
Saturday or Friday afternoon was a big one for me and for both of us. But yeah, Friday morning. Was there anything that, you know, you had that you had thought of? It was just really kind of like, it was so fitting.
00:44:02
Speaker
It was, sorry. You're good. Um, um,
00:44:09
Speaker
I can't remember exactly what you said that prompted me to be like, well, that's why you were conceived. Because it was like the perfect question or whatever it was that you posed to everybody. Oh, promiscuity.
00:44:25
Speaker
i think I was mentioning like, yeah like you teenagers acting out traumas and stuff. yeah Yeah. And it was like, yeah, yeah, dude. Like I was looking for attention from a male person.
00:44:36
Speaker
because I was like yeah not getting it at home or I was getting like verbal verbal abuse you know right yeah so two yeah yeah promiscuity yeah and so that was kind of funny how I was able to just throw that out there yeah and then I think kind of like how there were other people in the group that were like you know I was adopted or I was you know Yeah, they could connect with our story a little bit.
00:45:07
Speaker
um Yeah, that was really cool. That was really cool to be able to hear people's even just for people to like want to share in the class to like raise their hand and want to talk about like what's coming up for them. Right.
00:45:22
Speaker
Like that, I think was my favorite part. Yeah. And it wasn't just because suddenly the attention was no longer on me for a minute.
00:45:31
Speaker
I like genuinely was so happy that people wanted to participate and share and and that they were getting stuff out of what I had to say. yeah So that was fucking cool. That was really fulfilling.
00:45:45
Speaker
Honestly. There were people that definitely yeah you struck a chord with them for sure. Yeah. And it it was really um validating that to know that um people resonated and that they understood and everything I was saying was landing um and that they were going to go home and and work through shit with their therapist that made me really happy yeah oh my god yeah so good anyway I'm trying to remember if I did anything else that day
00:46:24
Speaker
We went to the embodied intimacy class. That was the same day. that was Friday. Yeah. Okay. That was Friday afternoon. I know, but I got to do a little bit of shopping and I bought some earrings.
00:46:36
Speaker
I didn't get any listed stuff. I didn't buy anything from anybody. And I meant to, I think, but I just never, never really got you know, down there.
00:46:48
Speaker
So, yeah. But yeah, we did that embodied intimacy class and we're not going to get into detail about it because there's a lot of very personal stuff that came up for not only me and you, but like everybody yeah the class.
00:47:04
Speaker
i think But it was ah beautiful, beautiful workshop. That was when I started feeling like this intense need to just like love and share love with people like yeah i wanted to comfort people that were having a hard time yeah um and it was like the the way the class was facilitated was like the perfect um environment for us to be able to do that and support people yeah in that way it was beautiful yeah it really was truly and it would like it made me really
00:47:42
Speaker
happy and like even after i like i had shared stuff and was talking about it and it was you know releasing emotion um you know the the commentary that i got like you i think made the comment that i looked different yeah your face changed yeah which like was wild to hear because like i I can't tell, you know? Yeah.
00:48:10
Speaker
It just looked more relaxed and soft. Yeah. And you, you said that in somebody else also, like someone who was across from me who had like a head on view. um he He was like, you look more relaxed, but you also look more focused.
00:48:25
Speaker
And I was like, huh, wow. That makes a lot of sense. I think. Cause I guess, yeah, when you do release, when you have an emotional release, but you also, like express things that you have like kept you know stamped down for so long like it does offer a clarity um that you can't achieve otherwise it makes total sense to me it was beautiful and that class for the record that class was taught by Lavina who taught the dark feminine class that changed my life so much last year too yeah
00:49:02
Speaker
So I think it's safe to say that any class she ever teaches at Anahata's ever again, I'm going to make sure to go to. So, yeah, it was good. And it was it was her and her partner teaching together.
00:49:14
Speaker
And like I had never don't I know he was at Anahata's last year, but I didn't encounter him. I think he was wonderful. Yeah. um yosef i think is his name is um yeah and yeah they're fantastic together they do an amazing job but like you know just i don't know i don't know what else to say i'm just like mind blown i know Yeah.
00:49:40
Speaker
Yeah. Truly. Oh my God. Yeah. So that was a very, very worthwhile class. I loved it. um And it was good. I felt good afterward. And especially I felt really good because I had gotten my first class out of the way, like my first class that I taught.
00:49:58
Speaker
And so I was feeling like a little like freer, a little more able to breathe.
00:50:05
Speaker
And so, yeah, that was a really, really good day. um and saturday was a good day too i was like so outside of the two classes i taught i only attended two other classes um and i think it was fine that's what i needed it's how i needed to do it um but they were heavy hitters those two classes for sure because the second one that you also attended with me yeah uh was on saturday morning
00:50:37
Speaker
At 11 o'clock. Something like that. Yeah, I think so. And it was the healing not good enoughness class. And that's one that I had had my eye on in previous years, but had never made it to.
00:50:50
Speaker
Yeah. And I am very, very glad that I did that again. or like I made sure to go and and do that this year because it was, you know, in a similar vein to stuff I had been processing in the embodied intimacy class, but like separate stuff. But it was also deep, deep stuff, stuff that I hadn't really allowed myself to fully face. Yeah.
00:51:17
Speaker
And stuff that I have since, you know, after the end of Anaharas, I started to like actually process. Yeah. Yeah, it was good.
00:51:30
Speaker
Yeah. How'd you feel about how that class went? um i I got what I needed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:51:42
Speaker
It was intense. Yeah, i't i don't think it was quite as intense as like the... Not as intense as the embodied and embodied intimacy for sure.
00:51:54
Speaker
But it was that was also, that was more of an intimate class. It was a much smaller class. But the healing not good enoughness was bigger. But, you know, people were facing some of their like hardest, darkest shit.
00:52:10
Speaker
Mm-hmm. yeah And we were, you know, each sharing as we wanted. i think everybody did share, but, you know, nobody was required to.
Emotional Support and Performances
00:52:21
Speaker
ah if If somebody wanted to not share, they could have.
00:52:26
Speaker
And then we you know, did like a catharsis, like a like a release of like the old beliefs and stuff. Yeah. So that that was a particularly good thing.
00:52:39
Speaker
class i had heard so many good things about it and uh one of our friends had a funny story about almost setting something like on fire or making something oh she did set it up she she started too big of a fire and like it was supposed to be in like a glass it was in like a glass candle thing and i guess the glass shattered yeah from how big the fire got yeah but it worked out it was funny she said she felt really embarrassed about all of it and i was like dude i doubt that anyone thought of it that way like right and then it was funny because she did that class the day before and then um when we did the class like she our friend had said it was corinne we've talked about corinne corinne from last year that i met in the dark feminine class yeah um
00:53:29
Speaker
she had said that she wouldn't be surprised if the teacher didn't let people use fire yeah and after that but she did at a because that's a little campsite like a campfire circle around like next to a lake so we were able to use the campfire thing yeah it worked perfectly yeah um And yeah, and she let people use fire. She wasn't scared at all about didn't make her nervous or anything.
00:53:57
Speaker
So that was good. But yeah, so that was that. And then we, then we i got lunch with Sierra. She had lent me a couple of her meal, meal tickets.
00:54:17
Speaker
Um, and so I got lunch with her after that and we were going to do other things that afternoon, but it did not pan out that way for me.
00:54:30
Speaker
Um, I was so tired and I was just like, I just need to go lay down. Yeah. Um, And I think you were either already at the cabin or you came back.
00:54:44
Speaker
after I got back I can't remember but yeah so like we were hanging out at the cabin that afternoon and just like chilling and another friend of ours was there and then she decided she was going to take a nap so she put in her earplugs and eye mask and napped I was really impressed because I can't do that right when people are around I can't nap like that i right for sure yeah I can if I'm tired enough, for sure. but Yeah, I can at least like relax and ignore people, but I can't like get to actual sleep.
00:55:23
Speaker
Right. um But yeah, so that was impressive on her part. Yeah. So yeah anyway, I had a little menti bee, if you will.
00:55:36
Speaker
I love that term so much. A little emo bee, really. little emo whatever thing i yeah i had a little realization about something in my own life and i i had gone to the bathroom and I was washing my hands and the realization kind of hit me while I was washing my hands and I just started getting choked up.
00:56:00
Speaker
And then I was like, I really don't want to stifle this right now. I need to like let this out. yeah So I slowly made my way over to Molly's bed where she was sitting or laying down and I was like,
00:56:12
Speaker
sobbing as I was approaching her so she knew I just kind of crawled up on the bed with her and like put my head in her chest and let it all out for like 10 minutes yeah it was good I needed that needed to feel like held and like accepted like loved through that emotional out I don't say outburst it wasn't an outburst release really yeah yeah yeah
00:56:41
Speaker
yeah Yeah. And then I was still feeling a little bit raw. I mean I kind of came through that and then I was still feeling raw. You were able to like tell me what was going on, what had come up for you, because like I could tell like I knew you would tell me when you were able to, but I knew like you needed to sort of let it out first.
00:57:00
Speaker
yeah Um, but like, yeah, like when you were able to like gather yourself for a moment, you were able to talk about like what was coming up and, you know, we talked a little bit through it.
00:57:13
Speaker
um but mostly you just needed to cry, which was good. I felt like I needed to be in a private space, yeah but I still wanted a safe person with me. So i was like, Molly, let's go to my car, please. Can we go sit in my car?
00:57:27
Speaker
And then she like messaged our other friend, Ginger, who was just getting out of a class. And she was like, Molly decided to invite Ginger to join us.
00:57:37
Speaker
I basically was like, I know, like, i mean, I knew that like, I could be a support for you. But I also knew that you would value her presence. Yeah, because you guys have a really special friendship.
00:57:50
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't have been anyone else that I would have wanted there. right right not no offense to anyone else at all but like because yeah she's like my age and we've both been through yeah so you guys like get each other yeah yeah absolutely ginger gets everybody she she does or understands sweet she's well she's so fucking cool but but yeah a night before or like two nights before whatever the night that i was working on the chicken and
00:58:21
Speaker
Right. She came in and when she got back from the opening circle thing, um she was standing outside with me for a moment alone and she just kept saying to me, I see you.
00:58:35
Speaker
I see you and I value you and I love, you know, I'm like, I love you. It's just that kind of stuff. And I was just like, whoa it was like she was really making some serious eye contact with me with that and I was like oh my god yeah and she's got intense eyes she can't you notice yeah they're good intense they're good yeah good intense it's not scary or anything like that intimidating or any of that no but they're very bright no she's fucking serious though when she's talking to like that and I was just like yeah my god wow and I almost started tearing up I was just like thank you
00:59:11
Speaker
you know yeah so i knew like i could be vulnerable around her and yeah and it was all right and it was fine and i was safe yeah so uh so it was good so we got some privacy and we were able to like process some more stuff yeah and i wanted to say one other thing about that because like when i was saying about the embodied intimacy class and how I wanted to like be there for people and like yeah I just felt like I just wanted to give love so badly that when that was happening for me i was giving it to myself I was loving myself through it and I was like accepting everything and like feeling open yeah and um
00:59:56
Speaker
It was a really good release. And i i think that was my lesson. Like, I kind of felt that on Sunday. I was just kind of like, i you know, like you said, somebody mentioned that I looked different afterwards.
01:00:11
Speaker
Yeah. I think that it just because it's because my in my mind, i was just like... finally able to give myself what i give everybody else like i gave myself the time and the attention and the love and the what do you call it um empathy and just all that stuff that i give away to people so much and don't get in return from certain people enough and like it was like really interesting to have that flipped and like feel like i actually gave that to myself for once you know
01:00:47
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. ah wasn't at all beating myself up for feeling a certain way or or crying when I, you know, quote unquote, shouldn't have been crying, you know, or, you know what mean? It wasn't like that at all. It was just like accepting everything about what was going on. Right. there right Right.
01:01:03
Speaker
And I think too, like in a similar vein, like, I feel like I have been carried so lovingly by our friend group throughout this past year. And like, it felt really good to be there on that day in particular.
01:01:23
Speaker
And to carry you and a couple of other people too on that day. and like, I remember specifically even like the, the way that like when you first, you know, when it was first like overcoming or overtaking you and you came over and you like got on the bed with me and I just like held you.
01:01:47
Speaker
Like, I remember distinctly having the thing the the feeling or the thought of, like, you don't get this from anybody. Right.
01:01:58
Speaker
And, like, what a fucking honor it was to be the person that you could turn to. Yeah. Because I feel safe with you.
01:02:11
Speaker
And like, I don't have anyone around here that i feel that safe enough to be that vulnerable with. Right. Yeah. For sure. Yeah.
01:02:23
Speaker
And it was it just felt like it was cathartic for you. And it was cathartic for me to know, like, you know, because there's so much there's it's so often that I feel powerless in like watching you struggle with your daily struggles and like wishing that there was something I could do more that I could do for you. Yeah.
01:02:46
Speaker
And then, you know, to be there at the opportune moment when you finally start to process some shit, which I like I had said to you, like I could tell for a long time it's just been like just below the surface.
Reflections on the Weekend
01:03:02
Speaker
and like to be able to show you like, no, you do get to be supported. Yeah.
01:03:11
Speaker
You do have that.
01:03:15
Speaker
By me and by Ginger and by everybody who was with us. Yeah. It just, it needed to happen with physical, like. With people are around. Physical support, you know.
01:03:26
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. People around who could, who could be there and like hold you through it. Literally. Yeah.
01:03:35
Speaker
Yep. absolutely absolutely then you and me both got to be there for another friend of ours that had a little breakdown later that night yeah and that was that was after couple of cool performances that we got to watch yeah that's right yeah yeah that was i didn't do a whole lot of the like evening like performances right but that one night saturday night i wanted to go because like I mean, there was the cryptid show. It was um the devil in daisy dirt.
01:04:08
Speaker
It was so fun. It was really cool. And then um Holy River, who had performed last year at Anahata's and performed again this year. and it was phenomenal.
01:04:20
Speaker
They were so good. Oh, my God. Yeah, I loved it. So that was ah lovely evening overall. And we all had fun. We were all together. Like our whole group was there together. And like some of us were dancing. We were like kind of on and off the dance floor.
01:04:39
Speaker
um but mostly just vibing. And, and then we all left after, after Holy River set ended, we all um walked back to the cabin together and um yeah.
01:04:53
Speaker
And we sat with, yeah, one of our friends who we won't name just for her own privacy sake, but, you know, sat with her and she got to have a bigger emotional release too. And like, that was another moment where i was like, all right, I think this is just what my role is here today.
01:05:11
Speaker
is to be the container for people to be safe to to let things you know bubble up yeah yeah and I liked it. I was, it was empowering to, you know, be able to offer that support and have it be, um, well received and appreciated. yeah Yeah.
01:05:33
Speaker
It was, it was really validating. So that was a lovely, lovely evening overall. Um, yeah. And we had a nice little, um marshmallow roasty. no Oh, he's talking.
01:05:49
Speaker
I think that was my chair, actually. Oh, it's I heard ah voice that sounded like he's it sounded like not a squeak. It sounded like a word. Yeah. It sounded like he said, Mom.
01:06:02
Speaker
Nope. was the chair. Weird. Yeah. um Anyway.
01:06:11
Speaker
Sorry. Okay. You're good. You're right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. You were just about say something else now. Well. Oh my god, I'm sorry. It's okay.
01:06:24
Speaker
Oh, right. The marsh the marshmallow roasting. Yeah. yeah i mean We made some amazing s'mores. Oh, my God. I only had chocolate. because I mean, I like a s'more, but I was so engrossed in conversation.
01:06:37
Speaker
um like i was just like deeply, deeply just in this moment with our friend. um Even though we were a part of the circle and we were like still there, but like we were just in our own little bubble together.
01:06:53
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um but like i was like hey throw me chocolate i'll take that but i don't feel like doing roasty marshmallow roasty time those marshmallows were so good too they were like really weird like flat rectangular kind of Oh.
01:07:09
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And they were awesome. Nice. I have to look into what those are. I've seen them, but I just don't... i don't Yeah, I don't know. i only ever know like the... I literally don't even know what the brand is, but like the jet puffed ones with like kind of the rainbow-y logo.
01:07:27
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That's the ones that my family always would get when we did yeah marshmallows. Yeah, think that is the brand. And then... um this bri and I don't know this was the same brand or not, but I've seen it before because they're specifically supposed to be for...
01:07:44
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s'mores because they're square to fit like on a graham cracker it's hilarious oh but they're smart it's kind of funny because they're like bigger they're a lot bigger and to me it's like a regular marshmallow will melt through to the middle better because it's smaller and then it will come off onto the s'mores easier but like these didn't melt through to the middle that well so it was like harder to get off the stick and stuff i don't know i guess i think of I mean, I saw the marshmallows you guys were using, but like i I think of like the jumbo jet puffed marshmallows as being bigger than what you guys were.
01:08:22
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They might be. I don't know. It doesn't matter. don't know. But these ones were kind of flat and square. Yeah. A different shape altogether. Yeah. Well, anyway, that's besides the point. um I had chocolate. Y'all had s'mores. Yeah.
01:08:36
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And it was good. And we vibed. and And then I realized, oh, shit, it's after midnight and I have to teach on Sunday morning. Oh, my God. Yes. Yep.
01:08:47
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and And we all had the plan to get breakfast together because there were like people had so many extra meal tickets that we were like, oh, we have just enough that we can all go in a group.
01:09:00
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yeah and uh get breakfast together i didn't even know until like that morning that right what was planned and i was like oh my god that's awesome yeah it worked out perfectly and was good yeah um and then after breakfast uh there was a class by laura tempest zackroff who i have heard of well after breakfast was my class Well, after your, oh, sorry.
01:09:30
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I'm so sorry. I'm jumping ahead.
01:09:34
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yeah I I know that you were at my class. class Yeah. Right after breakfast. Yes. Which also did well. it It also did go well. Like. And it was a different location. and was a different location.
01:09:46
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It was good. um It was a smaller group, but that's to be expected on Sunday. Um, and, but like, I think that even for being a smaller group, I thought we could got a good amount of engagement.
01:10:00
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Yeah. You know, ah like not only like you and our friends that were there, were talking, but like other people were also talking. There was a couple, a couple older ladies who were there yeah who had, you know, things to contribute.
01:10:17
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And one of them in particular was very interested in getting your contact information. Yeah. yeah Like, you know, either get the questions from you or you know, she might've been interested in the podcast as well. I'm not, I'm not positive, but anyway, that was really great.
01:10:36
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So yeah, I think that it went well and it was good, even though it was quieter, quiet quieter, smaller. And also i realized after the fact that like there was like a portion of information that I had forgotten to like say, but it's okay. Yeah. I mean, no, no classes, no two classes are going to be the same.
01:11:01
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Right. Yeah. It's never going to happen. Yeah. So it was fine. Um, but yeah. So then you, after that you went to Laura Tempest Zachroff's class. Yeah.
01:11:12
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Oh my God. So like we have a couple of friends who really enjoy, Laura Tempest's class. And yeah. Um, I had been very interested in her since last year when Sierra talked about her class on,
01:11:30
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um podcast about anahata's last year right and i was really interested in you know seeing what she was all about so i was able to go to her class on sunday it was think called sigils in motion which is yeah really cool because she started with the basics of like Like she just started with very, it was very systematic. It was very like intentional.
01:11:57
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um How you, you know, move your feet into the ground by starting with your toes and then the balls and then the heel and like doing that back and forth. So it like ends up making your body and like into a rocking kind of rhythm.
01:12:11
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Yeah. like Just from there, just continue to show us like ways to physically move our bodies and then how to incorporate sigils into it. And then she would flow from one to the next, to the next, like different positions to hold that represent different things, like a triangle shape, a Y shape, a wave, um like all these different things and how to express them physically.
01:12:40
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with your body and then she incorporated it into like kind of a seamless um you know uh flowing it sounds like a dance it almost became like a dance yeah it did ah and then she showed us how at the end she showed us how to use her cards like she has a sigils deck um and how to like play a game with those like you do you draw like five um cards and then you can like act out the sigils physically so it's kind of a way of of doing spell work through your body using yeah it's really it was very cool i really enjoyed that and she was a very good teacher
01:13:29
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Yeah. And you've been you've been a dancer. Like, I mean, not if not professionally, but like you you you really express well that way. Yeah. I've always liked dancing and just going like, OK, it started with church dances.
01:13:45
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right honest to gosh god honest to goddess um honest to whatever honest to satan because like seriously they would play some decent music in my church dances and i would like yeah into it like they played no church dances is where the first time i ever heard uh papa roach so oh cool Yeah. um Yeah. So that started there. And then um once I got old enough in college to like go dancing at the nightclub nearby, i was going. right
01:14:20
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And i you could be 18 because you would just get like you know a thing on your hand or you know if yeah if you could not be served alcohol you you know you'd get a wristband or a stamp on your hand if you could if you could drink right so i literally would go and just drink water the entire time and dance for four or five hours straight yeah shit you not yeah because I would dance from either 9 or 10 until 2 when they closed.
01:14:52
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Yeah. I would walk out of there sweating. Good. Like drenched in sweat. And even in the middle of the the winter, and I remember walking to my car, and it's like 10 degrees outside or 20 degrees outside, and like, you know, I'm drenched in sweat and hot as hell, and steam's coming off me. Yeah.
01:15:13
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Yeah. That was so fun. But yeah, I've always been into dancing as a form of expression. I never took any kind of like dance classes or any of that. but um But yeah, lately things are not quite so...
01:15:28
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easily like movable to be into the dancing type stuff it's like yeah yeah yeah age and weight are a big thing but um but i still love it i still love like i could still move around when i want to to certain songs and things like that so it was a little um a little bit hard to do her class because you're standing for like so long and I brought my chair and like one of our friends actually procured the chair while we were doing it but she ended up sitting in my chair for like
01:16:07
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a good quarter of the class or or so but at one point when I was feeling my back getting tight I just spread my legs far apart and I reached down and and touched put my palms flat on the ground yeah that really helps yeah yeah so I was doing some moves like that to kind of help stretch out my lower back and it and it worked pretty well good yeah yeah it was you had a packed Sunday Yeah. You had a packed Sunday.
01:16:36
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yeah So after that, I came back to the cabin and I took a shower and I got ready to go to the next class, which started at like um three.
01:16:47
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it it would it would have ended at three. once So I think it started at one. Yeah. um But you I will say you missed the unofficial class. Because you wanted to go to that class and take a shower before.
01:17:00
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oh the ah the impromptu um tits in the sun sunning our titties class i know i wanted to do it i would have done it but i was like yeah i couldn't you just didn't have the time it didn't have the the timer energy because they were yeah it would have required hauling ass up a hill Yeah.
01:17:21
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Yeah. I was like, I can't, I just don't have the energy. Yeah. It's okay. It turned out good. I literally just went and like, I mean, i could have brought a blanket or something. i ended up with leaves stuck to me all over, but we just, we all just laid down in the grass up by the labyrinth. And i had no idea that you guys going to take pictures either.
01:17:41
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so we didn't know we were going to take pictures. was like, what the fuck? And then, and then Corinne ended up posting the one of you all, with your shirts on yeah i didn't know that there was two photos until i saw her post with that picture i was like okay yeah there was one with and one without and i was like all righty then yeah it was that's beautiful it was so freeing it was wonderful oh my god yeah so that was but you would have loved it
01:18:13
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So that was that was a great um way to that was, for me, that was the needed conclusion for the whole weekend.
01:18:24
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Right. um It was exactly what I needed. So I'm glad that it worked out. And there were, it's cool because like there was somebody who showed up and I don't think she knew that it wasn't an official class. She just sort of came and joined in. Uh-huh.
01:18:40
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And she's now in our group chat. I love it. It makes me so happy. Yeah.
01:18:48
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But yeah, so that was a lot of fun. But then you got to go to Joe's class. I did not have the bandwidth. I knew that I was, I mean, i love Joe and I love his classes, but like I was so, so spent.
01:18:59
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Yeah. I couldn't do anything else. Right. So I came back to the cabin and I started to pack up and, uh, you went to that class and, uh, do you have words to describe how that class was or did your brain break also?
Consciousness and Non-Duality Exploration
01:19:18
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um cause absolutely everybody that came back was like, like, I can't tell you what I just learned. I don't know. Yeah.
01:19:27
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my brain is broken yeah it's it's really it's it's a study in consciousness and levels of consciousness ah was it similar to the classes he's done in the past that we've gone to similar to last years okay yeah he didn't talk about the kabbalah and the tree of life and all that but he talked i mean but but he's made this graph now that incorporates that at one end of it um but it's talking about all these various like oh um
01:19:59
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philosophers and like various people who've written about or had like I don't know the words are totally leaving me but like various teachers through history that have had similar um ideas and thoughts on and on the levels of consciousness and and that kind of stuff so basically like yeah There's a whole graph that incorporated all of that.
01:20:28
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And then yeah um at the top, it would say like, it's, you know, based on this type of teaching or based on this type of teaching or based on, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like different traditions and stuff. Right.
01:20:39
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Right. Okay. Yeah. So the non-duality thing, which is hilarious to me last year, I kept saying the duality said yeah completely understand opposite of what it was yeah i'm not making that mistake anymore now growth because it was really hard for me to grasp last year like i mean not really really but basically yeah but it's it's hard to grasp no matter what so yeah yeah because it's all conceptual and like if you have never spent any kind of time
01:21:11
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learning any of these concepts at all or or even recognizing that they could exist in your own mind, like, then you're going to have a hard time grasping. So, like, yeah me, like, where it starts with him is you're talking about yourself as the observer and the observed. So, like, there's two parts of you. Mm-hmm.
01:21:32
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you're looking at yourself essentially ginger was there she brought this up it's like you looking at yourself in a mirror there's you the observer and there's you that's being observed yeah and that was just a good way to kind of simplify it for i think people who maybe had a hard time grasping the concept and that's so interesting to think about too because like i even using that metaphor that example of you looking at yourself in a mirror like you are simultaneously the observer and the observed and the person in the mirror is ah observ the observer and the observed.
01:22:04
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Well, that's true too. Yeah. but but but Like you're observing them and they're observing you in a way. Yeah. Yeah. But it goes, but you are they are you and you are them. Yeah.
01:22:17
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So then there's, so there's that there's, yeah you know, if you, if you, contemplate your own thinking patterns and behaviors enough, you will recognize that there's a you that's always like the chattery brain. And then there's the you that's watching level above that. That's watching it. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah,
01:22:38
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excuse me i have noticed that in myself for a long time yeah that i'm just like okay there's this part of me that's just like buth blah blah blah then there's this other part of me that's going like what the fuck yeah there's your monkey brain yeah and then your higher self yeah yeah so uh or your lizard brain depending on yeah right your mood right ah You know, you know that?
01:23:02
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Have you seen that on TikTok? the The lizard? It's just this. It's just this little animated lizard whose eyes are going in opposite directions. And it keeps hitting this button that just says lizard, lizard, lizard, lizard.
01:23:17
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lizzard no
01:23:23
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No, and don't send it to me. i will, just so you can see it. I don't need to. But anyway but it's funny because I understand it because sometimes my brain is just lizard. I understand too.
01:23:38
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I don't need to see it. Anyway. Let me finish. Yes, finish. Because I'm just going to completely lose my train of thought if I don't. Sorry, go ahead. um So beyond the observer and the observed.
01:23:50
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Yeah. there's this account constant consciousness that's always there no matter what, no matter what level of consciousness your brain is at. So if you're talking about being awake, being in a sort of sleepy on the way out, kind of, you know, and love that, that headspace. I cannot. Yes.
01:24:11
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I cannot remember for the life of me, what the brain waves name is of that level, like of the alpha, the beta, the whatever's I can't keep those straight. And he didn't even really use those words to describe it anyways.
01:24:25
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Yeah. I mean, he may have mentioned them, but it wasn't like part of the thing anyway. So like then there's the part where you're like in deep sleep where there's no sense of time. sleep Yeah. It's just like where there's it's you don't you don't remember dreaming.
01:24:42
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Nothing. Dreaming is um dreaming is REM sleep, I believe. I don't know. That's like not as deep as deep sleep. Oh, okay. Well, I've heard REM is the deepest sleep, but okay.
01:24:54
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I thought REM was while while you were dreaming, but i I might be wrong. I don't remember. ah I've heard that it's not. I've heard that it's like you dream on the way to REM and on the way out. so then So the level where you are not aware of anything at all ah when when you're in your deepest sleep and time passes like yeah like blink of an eye. Like anesthesia.
01:25:19
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Yeah. Yeah. Anesthesia is another form of like what he called deep sleep. Okay. Because you're not dreaming. Yeah. You're out. Like you're not there. So where is your consciousness?
01:25:31
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Right. I don't know, but it still exists. Yeah. Because it's there when you wake up. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't just disappear. It never goes away. Yeah. So that, that form Of consciousness is is like the non-dual form. I think that, you know, that's me saying that. Like, I can't remember for sure that he said that, but that's what I'm taking from it.
01:25:55
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Yeah. is that That level of your consciousness is a non-dual level. It's like the only thing that exists because yeah you don't know anything that's going on because you're completely out and you're not dreaming. Right. you're not thinking.
01:26:08
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There's no time. There's no space. It's just. Yeah. You. it It boils down to this level of like, not I am sleeping, not I am dreaming, not I am awake, not I am breathing or thinking.
01:26:22
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It's just I am. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. And that's like a non-dual state. You know, it's a new it's interesting. I hope people understand what I'm talking about. But yeah, it's interesting to think about like, um and um I can't get deep into this because I don't even have all the information. But like, there are different like affirmations or like I statements that are associated with each of the Zodiac.
01:26:47
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Yeah. And the one for Aries is I am. Yeah. Yeah. Because that's the first like one, isn't it? It's the first one, yeah. Yeah, that's probably why Yeah, exactly. It starts with that one.
01:27:00
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Yeah, that's what made me think of that. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, so that was cool. i I wish I could have been there. It's all good I knew that I needed to take a break and I knew I needed to get, you know, packed up and stuff.
01:27:13
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but So it was fine. I did what I needed to do. but like Because you had his class the first, like last year. Okay. Last year was different than the year prior. But last year... Because you had that class, you already had the concept of what he was going getting into this year.
01:27:28
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yeah But it's always like you always have new people in the class that have never heard of these concepts. So it takes them a little while to start like thinking that deeply and grasping what he's talking about.
01:27:41
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Yeah. And I definitely like i will go to more of his classes in future years for sure. yeah But I think also like if I'm going to take a class of his and be able to be like fully engaged in it, like I might just have to do like I might have to enroll in some of his online.
01:28:01
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Yeah. And there's even some stuff that's free out to like fully get what I need out of it. You know? Right. Right. Yeah. But I mean, what's what's crazy is that if you go deep enough and and like high enough levels of consciousness and stuff, it's like basically like you're getting to a point of where there's nothingness.
01:28:21
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You're basically like your consciousness, your consciousness that is always there, even when you are out and like not even dreaming, but like deep sleeping or in anesthesia. Yeah.
01:28:34
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is nothingness it's literal darkness there's nothing there you're not thinking there's no time there's no space bubble bla blah blah blah so it's just a strange concept or thought or idea that the entire
01:28:52
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the entire class boils down to there is nothing we are nothing But we are also all each other and everything all at once.
01:29:05
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It's so hard to like, I don't know. I'm not even saying it right. But this is just what I'm getting out it. I love it. And I i love how he teaches.
01:29:16
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i love how he vocalize verbalizes yeah his ideas. How he communicates. yeah Like his whole... presence and being are so just fascinating to me and like i just I just find him so fascinating and I can't get enough I'll be honest i might be mildly obsessed but anyway no I just I love him I love him love him I I think so highly of him I pray I sing his praises and if you ever come to Anaharas you've got to see
01:29:54
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our man joe you gotta you gotta hit up his class and let your brain break a little bit yeah but he's good he's he's a great facilitator because he's not gonna like bring you to the even though he says it can happen you bring you to the point of insanity there's a point of no return he will hold your hand the whole way
01:30:20
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Yeah, it's phenomenal. So, yeah, I'm glad that you went. I'm glad that you were able to. Yeah, and I got a signed copy of his book! I'm so excited! And now you get to send me the unsigned copy. Yeah!
01:30:35
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Oh my god. So good. So good. ah Yeah! And then we packed up. And we hauled ass home. The next thing we did, yeah. I was like, yeah I better start packing my shit because I got so much shit.
01:30:50
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Yeah, it was, we are not going to get into the details. It was an arduous process, but we got there. We got packed up. We had our own little primal scream. I fit everything into my car, which I was so grateful I was able to do. Me too. Oh my god.
01:31:05
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And, uh, and yeah, we hauled ass. I mean, I hauled ass. You had to break up your drive. Um, and I'm glad that you did because you needed to. Um, yeah, I got home at like one 30 in the morning later than I thought I would.
01:31:22
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Right. Yeah. I did not get off the grounds till like seven. Right. Right. Oh, and by the way, I had to stop over by the main building to go buy some ice for my cooler.
01:31:32
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Yeah. And I got lost trying to get out. out Yeah, you mentioned. And I, I turned it around and stopped and I was like, anybody, can anybody help me get out of here?
01:31:45
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And f freaking Phoenix was part of the group of people that were like there when I was asking for help. And she's like, you're a fucking bus driver. was like, but I don't know these grounds.
01:32:01
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um and I it was getting dark again. It was like dusk again. So I was like, yeah fucking lost. Yeah, dude. Then I finally got to where I was driving past that weird little, probably the welcome.
01:32:14
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thing yeah the like i think it's got ramblewood on the top yeah yeah and it has like some scarvy things hanging from it or whatever yeah and i finally got to that point and i could not tell if i was supposed to turn right or left so i went right and there were people there that were like across from that little structure so when i turned right i could roll down my window and be like is this the right way to get out of here?
01:32:40
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they were like, no, you need to back up and go that way. i was like, thank you. my God. Oh my God. I was so fucking lost. Oh man. I was really feeling like,
01:32:52
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almost panicky at one point because i couldn't see where I was going. yeah I couldn't tell what was leading, where the road I was on was leading to. i ended up behind some other buildings and
Return Journey and Realizations
01:33:04
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like, you know, those big shipping containers are like shipping containers in this one area.
01:33:09
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oh yeah. Where I was like, I got turned, I was able to get in there and turn around and come back out. But that was right before I saw Phoenix. And then anyway, it was,
01:33:21
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fucking nightmaish because I just couldn't see where I was going I was so lost but you made it I got out and I stopped at the very first gas station I found because was already like lower than a quarter of a tank at that point so I needed gas anyway I was down to like I think a third ah a tank yeah I don't remember exactly but um yeah i was I got out and I basically got straight on the road
01:33:52
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And then um somewhere on the New Jersey Turnpike is when I stopped for gas. and um And I got Panda Express.
01:34:04
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It was like road trip dinners on hard mode. And i ate my lo mein and I didn't spill a single noodle. Good for you. Fuck yeah. was good.
01:34:14
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It was worth it. anyway we got home at like 1 30 in the morning oh yeah yeah i ended up stopping ah at a hotel somewhere in pennsylvania um i don't remember where at a hotel in it the beds were not comfortable and i did not sleep well at all And um I was slow to get going again the next morning. So I didn't get back on the road till around 1040 in the morning.
01:34:44
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And I swear to God, with the traffic that got added in the time that got added in, I literally got home at like 515. yeah I had 10 15 minutes to pee and unload enough crap out of my car that I could turn around and go get my son from latchkey.
01:35:01
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right So he would have somewhere to sit in my car. right It was like, I was really getting scared that if something happened, like, cause in Detroit, there was a big slowdown cause some accident or whatever that added like another 10 minutes to my drive. And I was like, if I get stuck anymore, going to be like so screwed.
01:35:19
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But yeah, turned out. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Good. I'm glad, I'm glad you made it. And I'm sorry that I'm glad you stopped, but I'm sorry that the hotel was not comfortable.
01:35:30
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Yeah, that's all right. Yeah. But yeah, and then I slept most of Monday and a good portion of Tuesday as well. And I had my big release on Tuesday, but that was because, well, it was because of Anahatas, but it was because of therapy.
01:35:45
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Yeah. So it was good. Cool. The stuff that came up in not good enoughness was the stuff that really came through. it And I had a big old cry.
01:35:58
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Yeah. In therapy and after for like a good hour. Wow. Yeah. It was needed. Yeah. And are you better now, do you think? Are things better?
01:36:10
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I mean, fractionally. Marginally? marginally fractionally i mean like it's like a portion you know i'm not it's not like a 180 it's not like a whole like ah i'm fine you know for sure no yeah i'm yeah so like but it's definitely like progress has been made steps are you know being taken cool so it's good good and now we are back in the real world and i don't want to be here i know me neither yeah
01:36:46
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But we are. And we're back on our grind. And we're here. We did it. We made it. who Yeah. And next week, we're going to come at you with some regular regularly scheduled programming.
01:37:04
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But yeah. so so grateful that we got to go. That we had the experiences that we did. Mm-hmm. And that we learned and released and grew.
01:37:23
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yeah Like it's remarkable how it happens without fail every year. Yeah. And you get what you need out of it. yeah ah Yeah. have. I mean, I mean, I have anyway.
01:37:37
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Even, even our first year when we were only there for half the time. hmm. less than half less than half really because we weren't staying on the grounds like even just that first year like I was like ah so much profound shit came into my life that year so it was amazing and it it was amazing last year and it was amazing this year yeah and it will be amazing for years to come who yeah and I'm sure it's going to evolve and in change in ways you know that it needs to
01:38:12
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Yeah, it will. ah It's like I'm really, really looking forward to seeing how it grows and what what changes and what doesn't change. And i think one of the things that won't change is that we will get what we need out of it every single year.
01:38:25
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Exactly. And we will meet the right people and we will go to the right classes and have the right experiences. And it's going to continue to just like jumpstart our growth every year.
01:38:39
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ah for sure. Yeah. I'm fucking excited. I'm already excited for next year. Yeah. Anyway, it's getting late and we got to um We're not going to do our socials because you can see them all in the description.
01:38:55
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Fuck it. We're tired. And our voices almost gone. Yeah. all right But we love you guys. yeah And we love all of our friends at Anaharas. We are so excited that we got to hang out with you guys.
01:39:08
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So grateful for guys. love you guys. We're so grateful. And ah just... i I have no words and yet we've recorded for an hour and 42 minutes with words that happened. So I guess I'll just have to listen to the words that we already said.
01:39:29
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Thank you for everybody listening. Yes. Hearing us and, and thank you for letting us take two weeks off. Yeah, that too.
01:39:40
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Yeah. That was really needed. Thank you. Yeah. It was good. ah But yeah, So we'll be back again next week, regularly scheduled programming and hopefully voices that are normal.
01:39:53
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I sure hope we'll see. We'll find out. We'll find out together. ah yeah, everybody have a beautiful day or night or morning or i don't know.
01:40:04
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Bye. Have a beautiful pickles. Bye.