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Top 5 Horror Remakes w/Austin from Frightmares
24 Plays3 months ago
Welcome back to another Bonus Episode of LHOHP! Today Austin and I debate on what we think the Top 5 Horror Remakes are. Hope you enjoy! Cheers
Transcript
Opening Banter on a Coffee Table
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littlehopsofhorrors
it's not like when so let's see uh fuck it you know let's let's roll with it this is podcast right ah this is real life how was the coffee table did you like it was it worth the hype
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Frightmares Podcast
Oh man. All right. This, uh, this is real time. Yeah.
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Frightmares Podcast
Um, Hmm. Let me tell you. So I think there might be something wrong with me as a person. Uh, are we, can I, am I allowed to like spoil it or.
Should We Spoil the Coffee Table Movie?
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littlehopsofhorrors
Fuck yeah, I don't give a shit.
00:00:31
littlehopsofhorrors
This is a bonus episode.
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Frightmares Podcast
Okay.
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Frightmares Podcast
Well, spoilers for the coffee table. Um, for some reason, as soon as I saw, like, cause everyone was, you know, I've seen hype about this movie and people are like, it is fucking wild. And okay. I'm i'm going into it expecting kind of like.
Expectations vs Reality of the Coffee Table Movie
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Frightmares Podcast
When evil lurks, you know, that's what I was kind of expecting going into it.
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littlehopsofhorrors
Hmm.
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Frightmares Podcast
And it's not that it was a bad movie, but like you, you start off the movie with an infant death, which, you know, triggers me to be like, this is going to be fucking crazy. And then it's just kind of painfully boring after that. Um, You started off with such like, you know, infant death and like children death is a very, like a lot of directors don't touch that. And when you do, it peaks my interest because you're like, that's something most people don't do.
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Frightmares Podcast
But then I, I didn't even see the dead body.
00:01:27
littlehopsofhorrors
Right.
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Frightmares Podcast
I didn't even see the fucking head at all. Um, and then both of them killed themselves at the end. And I'm like, I guess, I don't know. I guess I was just expecting something a little different than what I got. Uh,
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littlehopsofhorrors
man i thought it was wonderful i loved the suspense the entire time if you're just like it's anxiety it's like the worst news you could possibly tell somebody right and like you're just waiting for a window and like i mean we're both new parents like we both just went through this like not that long ago so i remember that phase of like parents and relatives and whatever bringing over little booties and whatever other bullshit you know for like right and like they can't even meet him because the kids
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Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
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Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:02:10
littlehopsofhorrors
dead in the next room like that's that whole thing just fucked with me so hard is a I don't know um I get why like why it you know some people are just in yourself included probably didn't get what they wanted out of it
Is It Dark Comedy or Horror?
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littlehopsofhorrors
um not to say it was a bad movie but this is just I don't know this was like my favorite movie that I've seen this year period not just horror movie because I wouldn't even consider horror it was kind of like dark comedy dark I don't even know what the hell it was
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Frightmares Podcast
yeah
00:02:38
littlehopsofhorrors
but it was good and it was original.
00:02:41
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah. Oh yeah. that And like, I give it points, you know, I give it credit where credit is due. You know, you do, so you, you start off the movie with, like I said, literally an infant death and not only just a death, a beheading on the fucking piece of glass, which is insane.
00:02:57
littlehopsofhorrors
Literally.
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Frightmares Podcast
And You know, I was like, okay, that's a crazy way to open it. But like, it's like, it, like it crescendoed too early and then just and like the suspense was there. Cause you're, but also I was just kind of, I just wanted the, I was like, can you just tell them at this point? Like, can you just do this? Rip the fucking band aid off. Like the moment when he was on the toilet, you know, recording that video for his wife, I was like, I was like, holy shit.
00:03:18
littlehopsofhorrors
Right.
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littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
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Frightmares Podcast
This is like visceral and real.
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littlehopsofhorrors
Yes.
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Frightmares Podcast
Uh,
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littlehopsofhorrors
Yes.
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Frightmares Podcast
But yeah, I just, I just, I just, I guess I wanted a little more craziness from it, but yeah, I will give it, I will give a credit where credit is due original idea, especially around an inanimate object as a coffee table.
00:03:43
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
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Frightmares Podcast
And that salesman at the beginning was fucking killing me, just like trying to sell this coffee table.
00:03:44
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah. that
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Frightmares Podcast
And then at the end of the conversation, the dad was like, so do you like this coffee table? He's like, no, but but I'll help you fill out the paperwork. Just like, it's like ah okay. So I haven't rated it yet. I don't know where I stand. I think I need to sit with it for a little bit before I give it a full rating.
00:04:03
littlehopsofhorrors
Yep.
Top 5 Horror Movie Remakes Introduction
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Frightmares Podcast
Uh, but it was definitely interesting and different for sure.
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littlehopsofhorrors
Yep.
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Frightmares Podcast
I can give it credit there. Like it definitely surprised me with how like different it was.
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littlehopsofhorrors
Cool.
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littlehopsofhorrors
Cool.
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Frightmares Podcast
So.
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littlehopsofhorrors
Well, we touched on originality. What do you say we talk about some, uh, some horror remakes, uh, guys today, we're going to talk about our top five each, uh, top five horror remakes of the past. God knows how many fucking years, but, uh, yeah, without further ado, here we go.
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littlehopsofhorrors
Thanks, Jack. Welcome back to Little Hop's Horse Podcast. I'm John, your host as always, joining me today for our second bonus episode of the year, Austin from Freight Mares.
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Frightmares Podcast
woo I'm very excited for today's episode because ah you said that the poll on Facebook determined our next bonus episode, which is what you said, the top five horror remakes.
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littlehopsofhorrors
Yep.
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Frightmares Podcast
And um shockingly, it didn't take me a long time to put this list together, but I feel like it is a very, for me at least, I don't know how other people will receive it, but it's a very well-formed list in my opinion, and I am extremely excited to talk about it.
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littlehopsofhorrors
I am as well. I think this is going to be a fun one. I think that we as much as we have in common when it comes to horror, we also differ on our opinions on what we. You know how we rate things which is a lot of fun and and we keep it from each other too So you don't like I don't know what the hell your list is I told you a couple off of mine But you know whatever and and we'll go from there um Guys check out our socials.
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Frightmares Podcast
yeah
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Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
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littlehopsofhorrors
We're on Instagram Facebook fucking all the other crazy shit follow like subscribe all the other crazy stuff Helps us in the ratings helps us get one step closer to free beer ah go check out Austin stuff He's like a way better podcaster than I'll ever be ah but thank you for
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Frightmares Podcast
Oh, shut up.
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littlehopsofhorrors
Thanks for slumming it with me and hanging out.
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Frightmares Podcast
you You're too generous, my friend. You have this calming, like I'm so hyper and loud and you have this nice calming like ASMR presence. It's every time I listen to your podcast, I'm like, I am so fucking calm right now.
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littlehopsofhorrors
It's not...
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littlehopsofhorrors
I'm gonna be hitting children. Like, wow, this is nice.
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Frightmares Podcast
Oh, goodness.
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littlehopsofhorrors
Cool. Um, are you, what are you stepping on over there? Anything fun? I know that, uh, you might've got started a little early today, but fuck I'm trying to catch up to you.
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Frightmares Podcast
Oh, yeah, i I started this party at about, you know, five oh one p.m. once I clocked off from work. um It's not the weekend, but I am partying like it is. I am drinking my actually I'm i'm doing it's. a little different than normal. So instead of my normal Southern Comfort and Coke, it is Southern Comfort 80 proof because the original Southern Comfort is only 35.
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littlehopsofhorrors
Yep.
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littlehopsofhorrors
Oh shit.
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littlehopsofhorrors
Boo. Yeah.
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Frightmares Podcast
A little weak, but I'm doing Southern Comfort 80 in my whiskey glass and I've got a Cherry Coke Zero that I'm mixing it with.
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Frightmares Podcast
And we are gonna have some fun tonight. i am I am fucking ready. It's also later than we nor... It's nine o'clock. What's going on, John?
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littlehopsofhorrors
Definitely. Well, you don't.
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Frightmares Podcast
Shouldn't you be sleeping?
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littlehopsofhorrors
I should be sleeping. My computer hates me.
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Frightmares Podcast
I have no responsibilities this weekend and you are, you are up late, sir. Goodness.
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littlehopsofhorrors
I know I gotta to be up at 4.30. I don't fucking care, whatever. We'll figure it out. I'll just deal with it.
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Frightmares Podcast
What is sleep? I mean, as, as is both parents. Yeah. What is sleep?
00:07:29
littlehopsofhorrors
You're a parent, man.
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Frightmares Podcast
Goodness.
00:07:30
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, you get it. It's just, it's, you know, if you get five or six hours, you're, you're more than happy.
00:07:35
littlehopsofhorrors
So that means we got like three hours of drinking ahead of us.
00:07:35
Frightmares Podcast
It's perfect.
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Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:07:38
littlehopsofhorrors
now ah i dont
00:07:39
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah. There you go. Look at the positives, man. Look at the positives.
00:07:42
littlehopsofhorrors
Um, so what, what did you take into account here for, I mean, I guess everybody's top top remakes could be different.
Criteria for Top Movie Remakes
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littlehopsofhorrors
It's like your favorite. Is this like critic's favorite? Like generally accepted as a top five remake. Um, and to settle the score before we even start evil dead 2013 would have been my number one, but it is not a remake. It is a sequel, uh, confirmed by the director.
00:08:05
Frightmares Podcast
Oh, so we're gonna fight tonight.
00:08:08
littlehopsofhorrors
we It's confirmed by the director. And yes, I guess we're gonna fight, but that's fine. Anyway. So said one article that I looked up and confirmed my bias and now um that's all I needed.
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Frightmares Podcast
All right, that's fair. So my, I guess qualifications. So I do have, I made a top 10 list because as I was making the top five, I realized it was a lot harder than I thought to just pick five. So I have two separate lists. I have a top five and then I have my runners up. The runner ups are either movies. I haven't seen the original of, or movies. I just. you know, ah they just didn't do anything really different than the original.
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Frightmares Podcast
And then my top five remakes are I have I have a reason for why they're in my top five. I think they did something just a little bit different than the predecessor to the movies. So if you want me to go through my what are you drinking on over there, by the way, I just heard you crack a fucking pan over there.
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littlehopsofhorrors
i
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Frightmares Podcast
What do you got?
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littlehopsofhorrors
I just finished my Wicked Willys. It's a hazy eye.
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Frightmares Podcast
get
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littlehopsofhorrors
I know, it's a hazy IPA from Bad Ed's brewery out of Ohio, and ah this was a donation to the podcast from my friend Andrew.
00:09:21
Frightmares Podcast
Okay.
00:09:24
littlehopsofhorrors
Thank you very much, Andrew. This is Crooked Run. This is, ah it's a Coast Pilsner, or Coast is, I think, the name.
00:09:24
Frightmares Podcast
Yes.
00:09:28
Frightmares Podcast
Ooh, that's a tall boy too.
00:09:30
littlehopsofhorrors
It's a tall boy, but that's what's nice about these Crispies, they're only like 5%, so i'll I'll slay this in no time.
00:09:32
Frightmares Podcast
Ooh.
00:09:36
littlehopsofhorrors
But, oh wait, it's got hops in it.
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Frightmares Podcast
Oh.
00:09:39
littlehopsofhorrors
Cool. Cool, so it's a hopped Pilsner, so it'll be nice and crisp. But um yeah, if you want to lead off, you want to go, what, five to one?
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Frightmares Podcast
Chris.
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littlehopsofhorrors
What do you want to what do? you want to do
Discussing Honorable Mentions
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Frightmares Podcast
um do you just have your five or do you have any runners up okay well well i i i'm always here man i am always here for you uh so i'll just knock out my like runner up five uh real quick because like i said i either haven't seen the original or um you know i didn't think they did anything different so
00:09:53
littlehopsofhorrors
No, I just went with five because I did this in like 45 minutes at lunch because I had a guest cancel on me. So thank you for bailing me out again. I do appreciate that. Saving the day.
00:10:16
Frightmares Podcast
ah First up, we have Invasion of the Body Snatchers from 1978.
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littlehopsofhorrors
Okay.
00:10:21
Frightmares Podcast
I think this is a fantastic movie with ah Donald Pleasance, I think, or someone, Donald Sutherland. ah Never Seen the Original, but still a fantastic remake. Then next up, we have The Thing by John Carpenter from 1982. Never Seen the Original. Um did didn't make my top five because I haven't seen the original so I have nothing to compare it to uh, number number three is What?
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littlehopsofhorrors
Okay.
00:10:45
littlehopsofhorrors
Okay, that's but hold on, hold on. That the the merit that that movie carries alone should should like be guaranteed a spot. And I didn't do it because it's not modern enough.
00:10:57
littlehopsofhorrors
So but that was like my number one remake because it's a perfect horror movie. It's a 10 out of 10. It's got fantastic special effects. It's creepy as shit. Like, that's as good as it gets. Like, man, you should have made an exception on that one.
00:10:57
Frightmares Podcast
Okay
00:11:12
Frightmares Podcast
No, you're you are you are 100%
Old vs New: 'It' Miniseries and Films
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Frightmares Podcast
correct. I just haven't seen the original to compare it to. I know the ratings are much better for the thing than the original um thing from another world because I believe that's the original title, but I had nothing to compare it to.
00:11:25
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:11:26
Frightmares Podcast
So I was like, let me just put it in my you know honorable mentions because it has to be talked about. um
00:11:31
littlehopsofhorrors
Okay.
00:11:32
Frightmares Podcast
Next up, we have the fly with ah Jeff Goldblum solid remake. Definitely different than the original, but I just I don't know. It's it's what once I get to my top five, it'll make more sense why I didn't pick the fly. um The blob, I have seen the original and the blob is a fucking masterpiece to me from 1988, I believe. Um, but it's essentially the same movie. It's just done better. You know what I mean? And then last but not least, I have the it chapter one and two.
00:12:00
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:12:05
Frightmares Podcast
I couldn't pick between one and two. So I was like, this doesn't really count because I rated them both the same. I think they're both fantastic. Not a fan of the original 1990 mini series. Like it's good. It's not great. So that is where I stand with my honorable mentions. So there we go.
00:12:25
littlehopsofhorrors
Okay. Yeah, i don't I don't have any honorable mentions, ah but... Wait, so in chapter one and two, like you're talking about the the recent ones with Skarsgard.
00:12:36
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah, from 2017 and 2019.
00:12:39
littlehopsofhorrors
Those didn't make your top five as a remake, either one of those. Well, I guess two.
00:12:43
Frightmares Podcast
No, because they're they're based they're based solely off of the book. And while I know they did different things from each other, but you know from the miniseries to the movies, it's it's all based off of a book. So it's hard for me to say one is better than the other, even though I've rated them differently because you know they're just taking off source material. the the Movies in my top five are not taken from any books or any already established lore. There are movies that were made and then remade.
00:13:15
Frightmares Podcast
So I know my logic might not make sense, but I'm i'm going to try and explain it the further we go.
00:13:16
littlehopsofhorrors
okay that's fine that's fine uh wait so that was a miniseries what did what the fuck how did i not know that
00:13:28
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah, it from 1990 was like, it was like, Stephen King had a lot of adaptations in the nineties with like the stand and it and Rose red that were like, I think two to three to four episodes of like a TV mini series. And it was, it was like three episodes of like, yeah.
00:13:49
littlehopsofhorrors
I had that on DVD, and well like I bought it when I was in my like early 20s, because I had never seen it back then, and everybody's like, I gotta watch it.
00:13:49
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
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Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
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Frightmares Podcast
Okay.
00:13:58
littlehopsofhorrors
like Pennywise is so crazy, and it's an awful fucking movie, whatever it is, awful miniseries. He's great, Tim Curry, we'll talk about it. We'll talk about it, we'll talk about it.
00:14:07
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah, Tim Curry's great, but I just, I think Bill Skarsgard is much more horrifying.
00:14:14
littlehopsofhorrors
Yes, and we will cover that, because it may or may not be in my top five.
00:14:14
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:14:17
Frightmares Podcast
Okay.
00:14:18
littlehopsofhorrors
Spoiler alert.
00:14:19
Frightmares Podcast
No spoilers. No, that's fine. Well, why don't you fucking kick it off, Mr.
00:14:22
littlehopsofhorrors
Spoilers.
00:14:24
Frightmares Podcast
Host with your number five? I mean, what's your number five?
00:14:27
littlehopsofhorrors
my note Okay. Okay.
'Maniac' - Unconventional Brilliance
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littlehopsofhorrors
My number five is maniac. Uh, the first person point of view, uh, which I thought was really unique. Uh, now. Okay. Big c sin here. Big sin. I have not seen the original, but I love, so my credential, not my credential is my like, uh, I guess metrics are a little different. I think that you could watch this movie on your on its own and it doesn't have to be based on anything. You can watch these movies um not knowing that they were remade or they're remakes or they're based off of anything. They're they're good standalone pieces.
00:15:01
littlehopsofhorrors
um
00:15:01
Frightmares Podcast
Absolutely.
00:15:02
littlehopsofhorrors
and I mean the brutality in that movie is is insane. just what I mean pretty early on Elijah Wood just scalped somebody. um I actually have that he's slashing his way through the world one scalp at a time. That's like the note that I have here. But it's a fun watch. It's unique. It's cool. I haven't watched it in a while. It's on my list to cover on here. but i do remember it being like a lot of fun to watch and when i'm looking through and obviously we're trying to do modern remakes and it came down to like my number five s spot was going to be like friday the 13th ass uh nightmare on elm street ass and you know the crazies was like maybe gonna be my five but um points for originality on like the the point of view kind of kills and everything with with maniac so do you want to go with your number five
00:15:40
Frightmares Podcast
Okay.
00:15:48
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
Debating 'Evil Dead' - Remake or Sequel?
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Frightmares Podcast
Uh, my number five, since you didn't want to include it on your top five, cause it is a remake is the evil dead or sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Just evil dead. My bad.
00:16:03
littlehopsofhorrors
just evil debt.
00:16:04
Frightmares Podcast
No, the just evil dead.
00:16:05
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, yeah.
00:16:06
Frightmares Podcast
Um, so why don't you explain why you think this is a sequel and I will tell you how you're wrong.
00:16:16
littlehopsofhorrors
I was, I was going to put this on my list.
00:16:17
Frightmares Podcast
and I'm just, I'm just fucking, I'm sorry.
00:16:21
littlehopsofhorrors
And then Manny, I couldn't even been on here. ah That would have been tied.
00:16:23
Frightmares Podcast
Okay.
00:16:24
littlehopsofhorrors
I mean, that would have been a tough one. for That probably would been my number one.
00:16:27
littlehopsofhorrors
um But
00:16:28
Frightmares Podcast
Okay.
00:16:29
Frightmares Podcast
No, I'm legitimately curious why I don't think I've ever.
00:16:31
littlehopsofhorrors
I looked it up and there's, it's just a huge debate.
00:16:32
Frightmares Podcast
heard Yeah.
00:16:33
littlehopsofhorrors
and And there, I guess it's not like, I don't know if the article that I read said that it was, they asked the director and he said it's a sequel to, um, one of the Bruce Campbell movies.
00:16:45
Frightmares Podcast
Okay.
00:16:45
littlehopsofhorrors
That's what they said. So I don't, I don't know.
00:16:48
Frightmares Podcast
So the, the Feta Alvarez said that.
00:16:50
littlehopsofhorrors
Yes.
00:16:51
Frightmares Podcast
Interesting. And I'm, I'm wondering what connects the re are you know, the 2013 movie to the original besides Sam Raimi's car, because Sam Raimi's car is in like every movie he's ever done that fucking yellow Oldsmobile or whatever it is.
00:17:09
littlehopsofhorrors
Right, right.
00:17:10
Frightmares Podcast
Um, besides that, I I'm genuinely curious because the cabin. I just watched these last month for Sam Ramey when I did that on my podcast. Wasn't the cabin like fucking burnt down at the end? I can't even remember. Oh my God. I swear to God, the cabin was destroyed in some way. So I'm curious how this would be a sequel besides the director confirming it. Was there any other thing on the internet that was like, this is how it's a sequel?
00:17:39
littlehopsofhorrors
I'm looking right now just to see if you buy me a couple like minutes. I'm going to see if I can pull. I'm reading a different article to see if I can find it.
00:17:47
littlehopsofhorrors
um
00:17:47
Frightmares Podcast
Okay.
00:17:47
Frightmares Podcast
Well, let me tell you about the evil did or sorry, evil dead from 2013 and how, how much of a masterpiece this movie is. If you've never seen it and you're listening to this podcast, what are you doing with your life? John, go ahead.
00:18:00
littlehopsofhorrors
Uh, okay. So Alvarez says, um, was this a standalone film or not? He said it continues the first one, the coincidences
'Evil Dead' (2013) - Modern Masterpiece?
00:18:07
littlehopsofhorrors
in the events between the first film and mine are not coincidences, but more like dark fate created by the evil book.
00:18:13
Frightmares Podcast
Interesting.
00:18:13
littlehopsofhorrors
Ash car is still there, rusting away. Therefore everything that the fans thought that was just to acknowledge the classic film was in send design to connect. to the larger narrative. So that is a quote from Fade Alvarez, Fide, Fade, Fade, Fade Alvarez.
00:18:24
Frightmares Podcast
OK.
00:18:29
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah, however you say his name. Okay, well, the reason that this is on my top five list, because I think it did something different than the original.
00:18:31
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:18:37
Frightmares Podcast
um The original, obviously, to me, kind of invented camp. It was funny without knowing it was funny.
00:18:45
littlehopsofhorrors
Right.
00:18:46
Frightmares Podcast
a lot of A lot of people thought it was a comedy when it first came out, and that's why the Evil Dead, or sorry, Evil Dead 2, is listed as a comedy horror. The first Evil Dead is literally just listed as a straight horror. but it was so kind of silly and over the top that people perceived it as a comedy.
00:18:58
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah I
00:19:04
Frightmares Podcast
And this movie completely took it into a straight, like, uncomedic way and made it very serious and
00:19:07
littlehopsofhorrors
don't
Intense Horror in 'Evil Dead' (2013)
00:19:13
Frightmares Podcast
very bloody and over the top.
00:19:13
littlehopsofhorrors
know
00:19:15
Frightmares Podcast
So I think that's what it did. just so it It did that just a little differently. Like, it's the same kind of premise. People in the woods, in a cabin, there's an evil book, They go into a little bit more depth with the book, but it is so fucking serious. There's no funny moments in that movie. Like you, yeah it's very, very, so it's played very straight.
00:19:33
littlehopsofhorrors
no I think honestly if if you were to make like a mount rush more of like modern horror movies you must watch uh that's on there that and like the conjuring those two there like the other two or would you know we'd have to sit down and like really think about it but those two
00:19:37
Frightmares Podcast
So that's what I think evil dad from 2013 did different than the original movie.
00:19:52
Frightmares Podcast
Yes.
00:19:58
littlehopsofhorrors
I mean, they're they're as good as it gets.
High Bar for Modern Horror Remakes
00:20:01
littlehopsofhorrors
And just the the body horror in that movie was fucking gnarly, man. It is so dark. And that's why like I got so excited for Evil Dead Rise.
00:20:07
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:20:09
littlehopsofhorrors
I'm like, shit, man. Hopefully they like, whoops, something just fell off my desk. well ah ah Oh, That's why I got, you okay over there?
00:20:20
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah, I'm good, you goober.
00:20:21
littlehopsofhorrors
ah You got frozen on my computer. That's good.
00:20:23
Frightmares Podcast
Oh, I fell over.
00:20:23
littlehopsofhorrors
So your head was down. I thought you were like, you like lost your shit or something.
00:20:30
Frightmares Podcast
Help me.
00:20:31
littlehopsofhorrors
el me ah Yeah, but no I just I I got really excited for Evil Dead Rise and that's why I I don't like it that much because 2013 is like the bar, right?
00:20:35
Frightmares Podcast
oh
00:20:44
littlehopsofhorrors
That's that's you know, and it's gonna be hard to top that Alright, will you say you want to move on to number number four your number four my number four who's number four?
00:20:44
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:20:53
Frightmares Podcast
No, you you're up next. I told my number five. So you are up for your number four remake.
00:20:59
littlehopsofhorrors
Last house
The Discomfort of 'The Last House on the Left'
00:21:00
littlehopsofhorrors
on the left.
00:21:01
littlehopsofhorrors
um Again, have not seen the original. We talked about this, but if you ask people, um so there are like obviously tears, I guess, of like twisted movies. um and And if you haven't seen a movie like this before, it's definitely gonna bother you. um I watched this with a girl I was dating at the time. We just rented it from Redbox. And ah have you seen this?
00:21:01
Frightmares Podcast
and Okay.
00:21:26
Frightmares Podcast
The one, okay.
00:21:28
littlehopsofhorrors
2009.
00:21:30
Frightmares Podcast
It's not 2012. It's 2009.
00:21:31
littlehopsofhorrors
That's it.
00:21:32
littlehopsofhorrors
that No. Oh, actually, I don't know. I didn't, uh, I know it was, uh, Tony Goldwyn, I think.
00:21:32
Frightmares Podcast
It's the one with Jennifer Lawrence, right?
00:21:40
Frightmares Podcast
Oh, this, oh, no, no, no.
00:21:41
littlehopsofhorrors
Let's look.
00:21:42
Frightmares Podcast
What? Okay. ah Sorry to divert the podcast here, but there is a movie that is not this one that has, okay.
00:21:50
littlehopsofhorrors
Sarah Paxton. Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead.
00:21:54
Frightmares Podcast
House at the end of the street?
00:21:57
littlehopsofhorrors
that's it that's it it's not the same yeah it's like kind of the same but not i guess i'm guessing yes yeah that's the one uh last house on the left is the one with like a lot of rape um and that was that was not fun to watch with a girlfriend uh
00:22:03
Frightmares Podcast
Okay. um Yes. Okay. I'm sorry. I always get these confused. The house at the end of the street is Jennifer Lawrence. The house at the last house on the left is the remake is not Jennifer Lawrence. That's my bad. I always get those confused. Yeah. And yeah. And you know, I was going to say, that was that fun to watch with your significant other.
00:22:27
littlehopsofhorrors
No, no.
00:22:28
Frightmares Podcast
What's crazy about these two movies is they actually have the same exact rating on letterbox. so Both have a 2.9 out of five, which doesn't happen with remakes and see remakes and originals.
00:22:42
littlehopsofhorrors
What?
00:22:47
Frightmares Podcast
So.
00:22:48
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah. It's got a six nine, uh, on IMDB 40.
00:22:52
Frightmares Podcast
On IMDB.
00:22:53
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah. 43% on rotten tomatoes. Um, I mean, it's, it's a dark movie.
00:22:55
Frightmares Podcast
Oh
00:22:55
Frightmares Podcast
wow.
00:22:57
littlehopsofhorrors
No doubt about it. Oh man. I could have put, I spit on your grave was as one of the, uh, top five. But yeah, that, I don't know if we got like the extended rape edition or something, but that scene just took forever to get over with him. but Like the girl I was dating at the time was like, what can we watch something else? I was like, I guess, I mean, it's gotta be almost over. Like it just powered through here.
00:23:16
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah. i
00:23:18
littlehopsofhorrors
I don't know. And then it just kept going. So we shut it off, she left, and then I went back and and finished it. And it was, it's ah it's a brutal fucking movie, but it's a good revenge film. It's very satisfying. um And yeah, I mean, there's a reason why this is recommended as like a good twisted movie to watch if you're like new to this kind of horror.
00:23:39
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah, the've I've seen the remake. I've never seen Wes Craven's original, but I also remember thinking the same thing as you. Like, is this is this done yet? Like, there's a very, very, I mean, that's like the kind of premise of the, you know, it's a rape, revenge movie. There's, you know. A few of them out there.
00:23:58
littlehopsofhorrors
yeah yeah
00:23:59
Frightmares Podcast
What you just mentioned a second ago is another one I spit on your grave.
00:24:03
littlehopsofhorrors
or
00:24:03
Frightmares Podcast
That's another one. um MFA is another kind of modern rape revenge tale. But yeah, it's never easy to watch those moments. And I don't I so i no like I never like rape in a movie.
00:24:14
littlehopsofhorrors
no
00:24:19
Frightmares Podcast
But if there's like a reason for it, I can understand. Why we're doing this, I still don't like it, but yeah, I can under, like, if it's a rape revenge tale, I understand the purpose of putting that in there.
00:24:25
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah
00:24:33
Frightmares Podcast
It's just, it's just never easy to watch. Like it is never a fun time.
00:24:35
littlehopsofhorrors
Okay, my dark twisted mind just came up with a question you must answer.
00:24:39
Frightmares Podcast
Okay.
00:24:43
Frightmares Podcast
um Okay. Go.
00:24:44
littlehopsofhorrors
Okay, next horror movie you watch. It has to have one of the two, you have to pick one. Dog dying or rape scene.
00:24:53
Frightmares Podcast
Dog dying.
00:24:55
littlehopsofhorrors
Or rape scene, yeah.
00:24:57
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah, dog dying. And brother watch a dog die than one.
00:24:59
littlehopsofhorrors
oh Yeah, you're right, I know that sounds terrible, but like I don't wanna see little puppy die, I don't like that.
00:24:59
Frightmares Podcast
I don't want to see a puppy die either, but like it's usually pretty quick. Like a dog dying is usually pretty quick.
00:25:08
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, that's true.
00:25:09
Frightmares Podcast
A rape is not quick. And that makes me so uncomfortable and it makes me angry.
00:25:11
littlehopsofhorrors
That's true. All right.
00:25:14
Frightmares Podcast
I'm just like, I just want to fucking, you know, cut this guy.
00:25:15
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
00:25:18
Frightmares Podcast
Uh, so I'll take a dog death.
00:25:21
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, that, that.
00:25:21
Frightmares Podcast
You made me pick between two shitty things, John. Fucking damn it.
00:25:24
littlehopsofhorrors
I know that was probably, that was rough. though I'm sorry I behaved like that. Hey, why don't you tell, it tell everybody your number four.
00:25:31
Frightmares Podcast
oh
00:25:32
littlehopsofhorrors
Let's get out of this.
00:25:35
Frightmares Podcast
You're a goober, man. But you're right. I think the same way as you. Like, if that's something that my mind probably would have concocted at some point, you just came out and said it for me. So thank you.
00:25:45
littlehopsofhorrors
Ah, yeah, I probably shouldn't have now that I'm, you know, hindsight's 20-20. Um, you ready for number four or what? What the hell happened with your headphones?
00:25:51
Frightmares Podcast
i um i I pulled it out by accident because I'm a dumb mess.
Japanese vs American Horror - 'The Ring'
00:25:57
Frightmares Podcast
My number four horror remake is The Ring from 2004.
00:25:57
littlehopsofhorrors
That's okay.
00:26:04
Frightmares Podcast
The thing I think, why really? Okay, whatever, dude. Whatever. I think the thing that this did differently than the original is the original ah from Japan I believe is unrated and this was PG-13 and it's horrified me from the day of its release because I watched this when I was a young child And it terrified me. And honestly, it's still a terrifying movie. Gore Verbinski is a great director and I love this movie. I own like three copies of it because I'm a fucking hoarder. And what's your problem with the ring, John?
00:26:45
littlehopsofhorrors
I just wasn't i wasn't thrilled. i thought I remember this movie being scary when I was a teenager and then I watched it as an adult and I was like, oh.
00:26:47
Frightmares Podcast
Okay.
00:26:53
Frightmares Podcast
So you watched it, ah like you watched it as a kid and then grew up with it and then didn't have the same effect.
00:27:01
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, i just I don't know if I just like outgrew it or or I don't know.
00:27:04
Frightmares Podcast
yeah Interesting. Usually the people for my wife, she didn't see it when it came out and she watched it with me originally, like for the first time, maybe a year or two ago.
00:27:06
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:27:14
Frightmares Podcast
And she was like, I don't understand the merit, but I guess growing up with it, like for at least for me, it's interesting that didn't work the same way for you.
00:27:15
littlehopsofhorrors
Uh huh.
00:27:22
Frightmares Podcast
Cause yeah, like growing up with that, I was like, this is horrifying. And then constantly rewatching it.
00:27:25
littlehopsofhorrors
Right.
00:27:26
Frightmares Podcast
I love Naomi Watts. I love the Seattle like location and the rainy vibes. And I just, I i think it's a fucking masterfully done movie.
00:27:32
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:27:36
Frightmares Podcast
So I love that we're having varying opinions on this.
00:27:36
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, cool. I mean, I different.
00:27:39
Frightmares Podcast
This is great.
00:27:41
littlehopsofhorrors
Yes sir, I agree. Alright, now to two movies that I have seen, the originals, and so we can we can talk a little more about them.
Brutality in 'Texas Chainsaw Massacre' (2003)
00:27:48
littlehopsofhorrors
My number three remake is Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
00:27:48
Frightmares Podcast
Here we go.
00:27:52
littlehopsofhorrors
ah
00:27:53
Frightmares Podcast
from.
00:27:54
littlehopsofhorrors
Uh... 2003.
00:27:55
Frightmares Podcast
With Jessica, and not Jessica. Yeah, not Jessica Alba.
00:27:57
littlehopsofhorrors
Yo, yeah.
00:27:59
Frightmares Podcast
No, Jessica fucking B.
00:28:00
littlehopsofhorrors
Beel.
00:28:01
Frightmares Podcast
Oh, there we go. Goodness gracious.
00:28:02
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah. Yeah, Jessica Beel.
00:28:03
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:28:05
littlehopsofhorrors
Uh, can't pronounce the guy's name that played Leatherface. It's like Andrew... starts with a B. um But ah Toby Hooper changed the landscape of horror in 1974, creating this chainsaw wielding cannibalistic maniac, known as Leatherface, inspired by Ed Gein, quote unquote serial killer, he didn't actually, I think he killed like one person, he just dug up a bunch of bodies, which is
00:28:11
Frightmares Podcast
ah
00:28:25
Frightmares Podcast
Yup.
00:28:31
Frightmares Podcast
Yup.
00:28:31
littlehopsofhorrors
equally gross I guess, but Hooper influenced a lot of directors with his like weird dirty gritty style like Rob Zombie. um But he created Leatherface, who's arguably like one of the you know icons like one of the greatest icons. You can put him on Mount Rushmore. He's he's you know he's in that conversation at the very least.
00:28:49
Frightmares Podcast
ye
00:28:51
littlehopsofhorrors
But um Marcus Nespel, which I believe is the guy that that directed this, ah this is probably his only success, because I was looking at his other movies that he did, and I was just like, not a fan. um He was the one that redid.
00:29:03
Frightmares Podcast
oh man
00:29:04
littlehopsofhorrors
He did the, I'm just looking up, so I have it. I should have written all these down, but I did not. um He did the the remake of the Friday the 13th the one from like um I'm double-checking to make sure I didn't fuck it up.
00:29:14
Frightmares Podcast
did he did Wait, so he write wait he remade Texas Chainsaw and Friday the 13th?
00:29:22
littlehopsofhorrors
Yes
00:29:23
Frightmares Podcast
wow i Dude, i first of all, let me tell you how much like I love the 2009, Friday the 13th, I think it's a fucking, it's better than the original in my opinion. Obviously they take a lot of cues from you know nine movies that Friday the 13th did, but I think as a like remake, Friday the 13th is fucking excellent.
00:29:44
littlehopsofhorrors
I'm gonna have to rewatch it because I remember not being a fan the first time I saw it.
00:29:46
littlehopsofhorrors
And this is this was in 2009 or 2010 when I saw it originally. No, but this is what I like about the podcast. I can revisit all these. No.
00:29:46
Frightmares Podcast
So you haven't seen it since then John that was fucking 15 years ago.
00:29:59
littlehopsofhorrors
Would you like, would you watch a movie again on purpose that you didn't like 15 years ago, Austin?
00:30:00
Frightmares Podcast
Oh my
00:30:06
Frightmares Podcast
I mean, okay, to be fair, no, no, no, no, to be fair, to be fair, you make a very valid point. If I didn't like it like that long ago, and no, I wouldn't rewatch it. Nowadays, like I'd say within the last five or six years of doing the podcast, if I didn't like a movie, I do want to revisit it at some point in the future. But you're right. If I saw that movie in theaters in 2009, like I did and hated it, then yeah, I probably wouldn't rewatch it.
00:30:30
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:30:33
Frightmares Podcast
So you're you're correct in assuming that.
00:30:35
littlehopsofhorrors
Right. So now through the lens of Little Hops of Horrors, I can, I can revisit it and give it a different, a different chance, but he did, he did that.
00:30:39
Frightmares Podcast
Yes.
00:30:42
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:30:42
littlehopsofhorrors
He also did Pathfinder, which I got my hopes up for. And that was a big disappointment that came out the same time that 300 did. It was like with Vikings and it was not as cool as 300.
00:30:51
Frightmares Podcast
Okay.
00:30:52
littlehopsofhorrors
Um, anyway, so, but, but he did, um, a great job.
00:30:56
Frightmares Podcast
Yes.
00:30:56
littlehopsofhorrors
I thought that he made Leatherface. very intimidating, um very brutal. Like I thought like Toby Hooper is dark, but kind of more of a caricature, right? Like he's kind of, he's more animated.
00:31:10
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:31:11
littlehopsofhorrors
He's definitely dark. He's weird. You know, that that whole dinner scene is so fucking awful. um But, but this, this one, I mean, he's a fucking juggernaut and and he's, you know, it's it's brute strength. He's ultra violent. I mean, that scene in the basement, where that dude he throws him up on the fucking meat hook and then grabs a handful of salt and jams it into his open wound like just for that just you know just take it up a notch like jesus fucking christ now that's what i want out of a horror icon i want that extra level of brutality just that that edge you know and and um not to say that hoopers you know but this was in the 70s and he did a lot of crazy cool shit uh since then and everything but um
00:31:53
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, I mean, I just, I thought this was a really well done remake. Not so much 2022. I didn't hate it, but it's, you know, it's kind of obnoxious. It was a fun movie, but it's it definitely not worthy of like a spot on here.
00:32:07
Frightmares Podcast
No, I see and I agree with the so the 2022 remake is kind of controversial. ah Most people hate it. It's got terrible reviews, but I genuinely enjoy it for the fact that this movie from 2022.
00:32:22
littlehopsofhorrors
yeah
00:32:26
Frightmares Podcast
is the only Texas Chainsaw Massacre to give us a Texas Chainsaw Massacre. The scene on the bus where Leatherface comes in and rips everyone to shreds, that is the only time where I'm like, you know what, the name of this movie is living up to the name.
00:32:41
littlehopsofhorrors
Yep.
00:32:47
littlehopsofhorrors
It's fitting.
00:32:47
Frightmares Podcast
because he cut everybody up and it's very bloody. The characters are unlikable. The setting is unlikable. Everything about the movie is unlikable, but I gave it like a three out of five because I'm like, the gore is there.
00:32:57
littlehopsofhorrors
Yep.
00:33:03
Frightmares Podcast
The gore is fucking so good.
00:33:03
littlehopsofhorrors
Yep. Top notch.
00:33:06
littlehopsofhorrors
Yep.
00:33:07
Frightmares Podcast
So, yeah.
00:33:07
littlehopsofhorrors
Yep. Top notch.
First-Person Horror in 'Maniac' (2012)
00:33:09
littlehopsofhorrors
All right. What's your number three, buddy?
00:33:12
Frightmares Podcast
Wait, did you, your number three was Texas Chainsaw. My number three has already been mentioned on this podcast and it is maniac from 2012.
00:33:14
littlehopsofhorrors
Yes sir.
00:33:22
Frightmares Podcast
Um, I believe this move. So I've seen the original 1980 version, uh, where Tom Savini's head gets exploded in a great fashion. It's amazing. But maniac for me 2012 did such a revolutionary tactic of doing the POV. That was incredible. That's not something the original did. You know, the original is from 1980 and it was good.
00:33:51
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:33:52
Frightmares Podcast
It's gory.
00:33:53
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:33:53
Frightmares Podcast
It sets up a great foundation, but that POV status of like a lot and also Elijah. what Can we talk about Elijah Wood and this horror movie and how fucking amazing he was?
00:34:02
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Mm hmm.
00:34:06
Frightmares Podcast
at skinning or not skinning but uh scalping women like god damn um he was horrifying in this and maniac isn't in it it out does the original by by leaps and bounds like i i like the original it's a great movie i'm not disputing that but this
00:34:06
littlehopsofhorrors
He's great.
00:34:10
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah. Yeah.
00:34:25
Frightmares Podcast
This remake is so well done and it is so like visceral and real and just like holy shit. So that's my number three.
00:34:35
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:34:36
Frightmares Podcast
I'll defend that movie to the death of me. I love maniac. It is so good.
00:34:40
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, that's ah that's a solid film. And I i didn't realize it was 2012. I for some reason thought it was older than that. But and no, you're right.
00:34:46
Frightmares Podcast
Let me double check, but I'm pretty yeah okay.
00:34:48
littlehopsofhorrors
That's what I was doing when you were talking about it.
00:34:50
Frightmares Podcast
Okay. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was 2012. But yeah, Elijah Wood. I love Elijah Wood in horror movies. He's done um Maniac, Cooties, Come to Daddy. He's done a lot of horror movies.
00:35:01
littlehopsofhorrors
Mm-hmm.
00:35:02
Frightmares Podcast
And I want to see him do more because it's like everybody knows him as Frodo, but like he has a pretty fucking good.
00:35:07
littlehopsofhorrors
Sin City?
00:35:08
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah, Sin City.
00:35:09
littlehopsofhorrors
That cannibal?
00:35:10
Frightmares Podcast
He has a great acting range and he can do much more than people kind of, you know, can anticipate.
00:35:12
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:35:17
littlehopsofhorrors
Correct.
00:35:17
Frightmares Podcast
But ah yeah, Maniac was is fucking solid.
00:35:20
Frightmares Podcast
So good.
00:35:20
littlehopsofhorrors
Agreed. Yeah, I'm gonna have to revisit that one soon. ah Coming in, number two for me,
Bill Skarsgard's Pennywise in 'It' (2017)
00:35:25
littlehopsofhorrors
It. ah From 2017, Bill Skarsgard.
00:35:28
Frightmares Podcast
Yes.
00:35:29
littlehopsofhorrors
I thought that he breathed new life into Pennywise the Clown. um You know, obviously, the legendary Tim Curry did a great job because he was the best part of that miniseries. I thought it was a movie for the longest time because it's, whatever, doesn't matter. Anyway, but but I thought that just Bill just takes it up a notch. He's still playful, but he's so dark. And then they just added like great special effects, um that weird shit that he can actually do with his eyes, you know, all that stuff. um But he he really like, he did a great job and I'm i'm definitely looking forward to, um you know, the spin-off coming up whenever the hell they, I keep seeing that it's coming, ah but I don't know like a date yet, that Welcome welcome to Dairy, yeah.
00:36:12
Frightmares Podcast
the The show. Yeah, 2025. That's that's when it's coming out. And he has reprise his role for Pennywise, which is great, because like at this point in time, I don't want to see anybody else do Pennywise.
00:36:18
littlehopsofhorrors
Okay.
00:36:25
littlehopsofhorrors
That man.
00:36:27
Frightmares Podcast
I think Bill Skarsgard is nailing it, especially with the I thing that he can do in real life.
00:36:28
littlehopsofhorrors
Yep.
00:36:31
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:36:34
Frightmares Podcast
People think that is a CGI thing.
00:36:35
littlehopsofhorrors
Yep.
00:36:37
littlehopsofhorrors
Nope.
00:36:37
Frightmares Podcast
No, he can do that.
00:36:38
Frightmares Podcast
I think in in real time. So, yeah.
00:36:41
littlehopsofhorrors
Yep. Yeah, he's got that and he's he's he's dark, he's playful, like like his his transitions and everything and in both of the movies. I wasn't a huge fan of chapter two, but chapter one is is legit. It's very creepy. It's very unsettling. um It's violent. um Everything I want in a horror movie.
00:36:55
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah, that's very well.
00:36:58
littlehopsofhorrors
So that's my number two. Where are you about on number two?
00:37:00
Frightmares Podcast
Oh, quick question.
Complaints on 'It' Chapter Two,
00:37:02
Frightmares Podcast
What did you not like about chapter two, uh, that made you, yeah, it was like two and a half hours.
00:37:08
littlehopsofhorrors
It was so fucking long for no reason. Did not have to be that long just for him to end up getting bullied by a bunch of fucking stranger things kids and a fucking sewer and dying No, I'm not a reader but I know that yeah Yeah, I saw that
00:37:20
Frightmares Podcast
Have you, have you read the book?
00:37:24
Frightmares Podcast
Okay. Well, I, I don't, I don't read either. Um, I, I like a lot of Stephen King's, uh, books. I read or sorry, read. I'm pointing to my ears. I'm listening. Yeah. I read. No, I listened to on audio tape or like audio books. Uh, but yeah, that's kind of how it ends. So I saw that.
00:37:43
littlehopsofhorrors
I should, I should do that.
00:37:44
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah. I saw that coming, you know, before the movie started and it's not a great ending to the movie, but I do love how they tie in the past with
Length of Stephen King Audiobooks
00:37:55
Frightmares Podcast
the, you know, the present. I thought that was pretty solid, especially what the book.
00:37:58
littlehopsofhorrors
Jesus Christ, it's 45 hours?
00:38:04
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah!
00:38:04
Frightmares Podcast
Oh yeah. It's fucking so long, bro. It is one of like the longest books ever. Like care. If you, if you listen to carry his first fucking book he ever made, it's like 17 hours. It is fucking say it is so long. It is too long.
00:38:20
littlehopsofhorrors
Wow. Now I'm going to give it a try tomorrow at work.
00:38:23
Frightmares Podcast
Uh,
00:38:26
Frightmares Podcast
My number two is going to be very controversial. And so is my number one, but fucking whatever. I don't care. This is what I
00:38:33
littlehopsofhorrors
oh
Contentious Take on 'Hellraiser' (2022)
00:38:34
Frightmares Podcast
live for.
00:38:34
Frightmares Podcast
My number two is the Hellraiser remake from 2022.
00:38:39
littlehopsofhorrors
Okay.
00:38:40
Frightmares Podcast
Yes. Let me explain.
00:38:41
littlehopsofhorrors
okay
00:38:42
Frightmares Podcast
I have a lot of explaining to do. So the original movie. 1987 Clive Barker, whatever. It's okay. I can't connect with anybody in that fucking movie besides ah the daughter who I can't remember her name, but like the 1987 Hellraiser wants me to feel sorry for Julia, who is a cheating wife with her fucking
00:38:54
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:39:10
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:13
Frightmares Podcast
Her husband's brother, which I believe is the thing.
00:39:16
littlehopsofhorrors
yeah
00:39:18
Frightmares Podcast
And I'm like Frank and I'm like, am I supposed to like you? You're cheating on your husband with his brother and you wanting to bring him back to life because he went to hell. I don't fucking care about you. I don't fucking care about this plot. Like I i just don't genuinely give a shit. And that movie is praised for so and like the practical effects. Amazing.
00:39:40
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, it's praise for the ending.
00:39:40
Frightmares Podcast
um Yeah, the ending, great. The practical effects, amazing. There's so much about that movie to love, but it's so fucking like mediocre to me that I'm like, I can't look past all of the good to be like, I'm rooting for a cheating wife.
00:39:46
littlehopsofhorrors
Yep.
00:39:50
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:39:57
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:39:57
Frightmares Podcast
Like it doesn't make any sense to me. So the remake did a lot more with describing how the box works. It shows you like five or six different like um control. um What's the word I'm looking for? um Setups that the fucking box does like lament. And there's all these different settings that you see with the box changing. It goes a lot more into the lore. A lot of people had a had a hard time relating to the characters in that story. Unfortunately, I can relate to the main character in that movie with having an addiction to things and like
00:40:37
Frightmares Podcast
The struggle that you go through trying to make people in your life happy with making yourself better. It's a very real story to me of like you, I felt bad for her because she is just trying to do her best.
00:40:43
littlehopsofhorrors
Right.
00:40:51
Frightmares Podcast
She falls into finding this box and then goes through all the changes of the box. And it just really describes what Clive Barker has set out to tell. Um, about it. And, you know, I'm also a sucker for, um, David Bruckner. He did a movie called the ritual, which I think is a masterpiece of, ah yeah oh yeah, it's so good.
00:41:14
littlehopsofhorrors
Yep, yep, absolutely.
00:41:16
Frightmares Podcast
David Bruckner is amazing. And I think he did hell razor plenty of justice. So that's what I think it did better than the original was just kind of explaining more of the lore of the box and what it can do.
00:41:27
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:41:29
Frightmares Podcast
And. you know the configurations that you can find to you know get your rewards from these Cenobites. so
00:41:37
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, more, more lore, less shitty characters that nobody cares about. Um, yeah.
00:41:42
Frightmares Podcast
Right. Right. Like everybody in the original Hellraiser.
00:41:44
littlehopsofhorrors
yeah
00:41:46
Frightmares Podcast
I'm like, i I like, I just want to see the daughter. Like, and that's why I like Hellraiser too. Hellbound vastly more than the original.
00:41:52
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah Yeah Right Right, I remember watching that when I had to check my box to like say I watch this as a horror fan and I just
00:41:55
Frightmares Podcast
It's because it follows the daughter and and her journey kind of into the underworld of the Cenobites. And it's so much better. Like, yeah, I just, I just don't fucking care about Julia and Frank. I don't give a shit.
00:42:10
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah. Everybody loves it.
00:42:14
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, I just skipped until like I saw blood on the screen and I went back like a few scenes and then I just watched that and that was I was like I feel like I didn't miss anything because nothing happens until the end but Whatever.
00:42:22
Frightmares Podcast
You didn't mention. Yeah. yeah oh Let's go, dude.
00:42:25
littlehopsofhorrors
Alright, you ready to finish this up and do our number ones?
00:42:29
Frightmares Podcast
What's your number one? i'm I'm really hoping it's the same, but I feel like it's not going to be even close.
00:42:32
littlehopsofhorrors
I Feel I feel like it's the same Rob zombies Halloween is my number one. yeah
00:42:39
Frightmares Podcast
Yes. This is why we podcast together and we're fucking best friends.
00:42:42
littlehopsofhorrors
I
00:42:45
littlehopsofhorrors
Correct. Correct. Correct. Yes. ah Rob Zombie's Halloween, number one
00:42:45
Frightmares Podcast
This is exactly why.
Rob Zombie’s 'Halloween' - Superior to Carpenter's?
00:42:52
littlehopsofhorrors
remake. I know everybody shits, not everybody, but real stupid people.
00:42:55
Frightmares Podcast
No, most most people do. Most people don't.
00:42:57
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, real stupid people, shit all over this movie. ah Unrightfully so. If that's even a word or a way to use it, I don't give a fuck. um But it's...
00:43:05
Frightmares Podcast
I'm going to go ahead and say yes, it is. But like, can you please gush about this movie?
00:43:07
littlehopsofhorrors
context I'm going to, yes, thank you.
00:43:09
Frightmares Podcast
Cause I need to hear it.
00:43:12
littlehopsofhorrors
um But it's finally a reason to be afraid of Michael Myers. John Carpenter created arguably the most iconic character in the history of horror. I mean, his music, the theme, that the the mask, everything.
00:43:22
Frightmares Podcast
Correct.
00:43:25
littlehopsofhorrors
Michael Myers is Halloween.
00:43:25
Frightmares Podcast
Yes.
00:43:27
littlehopsofhorrors
He is, right? That's that's the first thing. It's synonymous with that. i mean And that's a hell of an achievement. But I just don't get like the satisfaction from the movie. I'm watching it and I'm like, Where's the hype? I don't understand why people love this so much. Yes, the camera works cool. And and and Jamie Lee Curtis is great. And yeah, you know there's some cool kills. Don't get me wrong. you know You get to see your boobs. You get to see your you know a little bit of slashing and everything.
00:43:52
Frightmares Podcast
Okay.
00:43:52
littlehopsofhorrors
um But aside from that, I'm just kind of like, this was it? And then you look at zombies. He gives you a little bit of a backstory of what helped create this monster.
00:44:01
Frightmares Podcast
Okay.
00:44:03
littlehopsofhorrors
um Didn't show how he learned how to drive, but I don't know if he drove drove in this. He just kind of like gets from place to place. I can't remember. Anyway, but you you you see the monster develop and he gives you something to fear. This Michael, is terrifying. He's like 6'9". He's a hulking, just massive juggernaut of a human being. And and I know I used that word before with you know talking about Leatherface, but his presence commands this you know attention to the screen any time he's on it. This this man is is is terrifying.
00:44:35
Frightmares Podcast
Yep.
00:44:37
littlehopsofhorrors
He's so violent. He just he does things that are unnecessary. like There's just something wrong with him. you know and and you could I don't know. i just i He's great. And I hope people like like shit on this movie because of like Sherry Moon Zombie and like, yeah she's in all his movies. I don't give a fuck. She's barely in this movie. She's in the beginning. Um, I don't recall her really being in the end and everything. It's just like a small meaningless part that doesn't even really need to be, you know, considered or whatever. But, um, I mean, this, this movie is super violent. It's gory. It's, it's just wonderful. It's, it's a perfect horror movie, not perfect, but it's, it's pretty close. Um, it's, it's just a, it's a perfect remake. There we go. Uh, anything you want to add?
00:45:18
Frightmares Podcast
I will counter you with saying it's not perfect. i I do. Honestly, I think it is perfect. There's not one thing I genuinely like.
00:45:24
littlehopsofhorrors
what
00:45:27
Frightmares Podcast
So for me, rating a movie like a five out of five or 10 out of 10, there has to be like one aspect that I don't like. And everything about Halloween, I genuinely just like this is my. Weirdly enough that weird phrase. This is like my ah horror like wet dream You know what I mean? Like this is my perfect scenario for a horror movie We have a killer with a background explanation. We have him follow through Going through the movie and then we have a solid resolution which is on par with John Carpenter's original Where you know
00:46:07
Frightmares Podcast
John Carpenter wanted to make Halloween and that was it. And they made Halloween too. And he's like, well, all right, let's do this.
00:46:14
littlehopsofhorrors
Mm hmm.
00:46:15
Frightmares Podcast
And they kind of recant, like re recanted, recounted what they did in Halloween one, where Michael Myers was laying there and then he left. And then they kind of took that into Halloween too. And they're like, we could do more with this. And you're like, that's great and all. But like Halloween 2007 ends with Laurie, you
Fresh Take on Michael Myer's Backstory
00:46:35
Frightmares Podcast
know, just like blasting Michael Myers in the face and the cops coming. And you're like, that is such a poetic ending to what could have happened in the original. Cause he, I think he just falls off the balcony in the original and that's it.
00:46:48
littlehopsofhorrors
ye Yep, yep.
00:46:49
Frightmares Podcast
Um, but yeah, everything about Halloween, 2007 for me, this movie from is, is a five out of five. I love it so much. I think the explanation of the childhood is great. I know a lot of people, a lot of people loved the, um, like there was no explanation for what happened or what.
00:47:03
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:47:13
littlehopsofhorrors
He's just evil. He's just personified.
00:47:15
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:47:16
littlehopsofhorrors
Like, no, I went like, but why? Why? Just a little bit of why.
00:47:19
Frightmares Podcast
Exactly. Like, and that, that doesn't work for me. He's just evil. And he broke out of the mental institution and learned how to drive for somehow when he was put in there, when he was like five and came out, you know, 15 years later when he was 20 or 21.
00:47:29
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah. Yeah.
00:47:37
littlehopsofhorrors
Right.
00:47:37
Frightmares Podcast
Um, but yeah, everything about Halloween 2007 for me is perfect. And I know a lot of people love to hit on Rob Zombie too. A lot of like they really do.
00:47:46
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:47:49
Frightmares Podcast
But honestly, i I am a Rob Zombie, like apologist. I love his movies.
00:47:54
littlehopsofhorrors
Right.
00:47:54
Frightmares Podcast
I think he is a great director. ah Devil's Rejects, Three from Hell, House of the Thousand on Corpses, even the Munsters. Like I love the Munsters.
00:48:02
littlehopsofhorrors
I haven't seen it.
00:48:04
Frightmares Podcast
I was and I was. Oh, really?
00:48:07
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:48:08
Frightmares Podcast
I was genuinely scared when I saw, the like, the post from him. Like, we're doing the monsters. I'm like, who I don't know man. I'm kind of worried like I even as a Rob zombie like lover I'm like, I'm kind of worried and then I watched it with my best friend who is also a Rob zombie lover and and we looked at each other and we're like
Rob Zombie's Style - Love or Critique?
00:48:31
Frightmares Podcast
This is good. Why is this good? Like why is this funny?
00:48:33
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:48:35
Frightmares Podcast
um So yeah, I think Rob zombie deserves a lot more love than he gets but Halloween doesn't
00:48:40
littlehopsofhorrors
I agree.
00:48:41
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah. Halloween 2007 for me is just, it's, it's so well done. And it gives you what I wanted from the original. I wanted blood. I wanted carnage. It gives you all of that.
00:48:52
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, yeah, yeah
00:48:53
Frightmares Podcast
Like it gives you so much. So I could go on for so long, but I'll stop.
00:49:00
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, I mean, it's it's easy to hate on zombie. Like you said, I think it's like the cool thing to do is to just trash rob zombie and then you'll just get a bunch of people in your echo chamber and be like, yeah, you like fucking sucks.
00:49:03
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:49:10
littlehopsofhorrors
you Like, I mean, I'm not the biggest fan of like House of 1000 Corpses. I love that was rejects like House of 1000 Corpses.
00:49:16
Frightmares Podcast
It definitely is.
00:49:18
littlehopsofhorrors
It's a little weird. It's just a little weird for me. It's a little grungy. It's a little dirty.
00:49:21
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:49:21
littlehopsofhorrors
and and And that's his style. And that's it. And that's cool. that's where like i i created hooper for probably influencing him because it it sure looks a lot you know like texas chains on massacre but
00:49:28
Frightmares Podcast
Yep.
00:49:31
littlehopsofhorrors
um yeah i mean halloween twenty or two thousand and seven that the only thing that that i i the ending is a little ehh for me and the beginning where uh it gets kinda like cartoonish towards the end isn't he like punching through the fucking ceiling trying to like kill her or like through the floorboards isn't she like hiding in the walls or something it just gets it really dragged out towards the end if I remember correctly
00:49:44
Frightmares Podcast
Why is that?
00:49:58
Frightmares Podcast
No, yeah yeah ah you're right. it It
Controversial Top 5 Horror Remakes
00:50:00
Frightmares Podcast
does kind of get a little dragged out towards the ending, but I also love the ending where she shoots him in the face like twice and you're like, OK, like evil is over, right? But then he does, you know, Halloween, too.
00:50:07
littlehopsofhorrors
yeah
00:50:11
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah. He will die tonight. J-K-L-O-O.
00:50:13
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah. Oh, my God. Evil dies tonight. Fucking Tom. Jesus Christ. The worst part of Halloween kills.
00:50:19
littlehopsofhorrors
but Yeah.
00:50:20
Frightmares Podcast
My God.
00:50:22
littlehopsofhorrors
um That and the the stepdad, like that that stereotypical trailer park douchebag stepdad, just his like over the top, you know, comments and and just, we get it.
00:50:22
Frightmares Podcast
So bad.
00:50:31
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:50:37
littlehopsofhorrors
Like, that's probably like, we know, we get it.
00:50:37
Frightmares Podcast
yeah we on You took the words out of my mouth. We get it.
00:50:42
littlehopsofhorrors
I know you don't have to like keep saying what you're saying Yeah, just take more take him out like my little kid slashes throat and I'm good with that um But yeah, no, it's it's a great movie.
00:50:45
Frightmares Podcast
We can just continue, please. Thank you.
00:50:55
littlehopsofhorrors
It definitely deserves more credit than it than it gets Unfortunately, I don't think that's ever gonna happen because like I said, I think it's it's cool to hate on zombie and that's unfortunate.
00:51:00
Frightmares Podcast
No.
00:51:03
littlehopsofhorrors
So um Yeah, anything else you want to add before we get out here?
00:51:08
Frightmares Podcast
No, I ah i mean, i I stand by my list. I know it's probably controversial, but all I have is controversial takes. So like I guess I I made my own bed and I will sleep on it.
00:51:19
littlehopsofhorrors
That's why you're here.
00:51:22
Frightmares Podcast
So.
00:51:22
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, that that sounds great right now. I'm getting pretty fucking tired just way past my bedtime. Uh, what is.
00:51:27
Frightmares Podcast
Right now, it's almost 10 o'clock on a weeknight.
00:51:29
littlehopsofhorrors
but I know.
00:51:29
Frightmares Podcast
God! What are we doing with our lives?
00:51:32
littlehopsofhorrors
Well, you're, you're like solo dad life down there right now. I have dad duties in the morning. Uh, what's your top five for everyone? So everyone knows.
00:51:42
Frightmares Podcast
My top five?
00:51:43
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah. Just right run, run them off real quick.
00:51:44
Frightmares Podcast
Oh, run it back? Okay.
00:51:46
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:51:47
Frightmares Podcast
My top five of horror remakes are number five, ah Evil Dead from 2013, The Ring from 2004, Maniac from 2012, Hellraiser from 2022, and Halloween from 2007. I will die by this list. Thank you. Listen to my podcast, Frightmares. Thank you.
00:52:10
littlehopsofhorrors
yeah Yeah, seriously though, go listen. Oh my god, what the fuck am I doing over here? I didn't mean to take away from that. I'm trying to open my list back up so I can read mine and then I just like almost exited out of all of this.
00:52:22
Frightmares Podcast
ah John tell us your top five god damn it son of a bitch Shut up you put your podcast is so great stop it
00:52:22
littlehopsofhorrors
um yeah
00:52:27
littlehopsofhorrors
My top five ah ah horror remakes, number five maniac. I did not include the years because I'm not a professional like Austin. Go listen to the podcast. It's so much better than mine.
00:52:37
littlehopsofhorrors
its
00:52:40
littlehopsofhorrors
Number four, Last House on the Left. Number three, Texas Chainsaw Massacre from 2003. I know that one. ah Just got it. Number two, It from 2017. Number one, Rob zombies from 2007. And that is it.
00:52:52
Frightmares Podcast
be a motherfu yeah year're like i don't I don't know the years but I'm gonna tell you three out of I'm dying over here. I'm sorry.
00:53:02
littlehopsofhorrors
This was fun.
00:53:02
Frightmares Podcast
I am NOT professional
00:53:02
littlehopsofhorrors
This was fun.
00:53:04
Frightmares Podcast
ah
00:53:05
littlehopsofhorrors
This is a bonus episode. I don't give a fuck. This is what these are here for. um Yeah, so hope you guys enjoyed our second bonus episode. We're going to be throwing up another poll here the next couple of weeks. And then we're going to get together. Sounds like I might have a guest coming on next week. They're supposed to be on tonight. ah Plans change. What can you do? We really want to get this. This is a big fish for us. So thank you again for the continued support. Go check out Austin's podcast. If you have not, it's awesome over there. um What do you do? This is is this still our Junto.
00:53:37
Frightmares Podcast
Well, when is this gonna be released, sir?
00:53:40
littlehopsofhorrors
Correct, ah July, so it'll be July.
00:53:43
Frightmares Podcast
This will be released in July. So over at Freight Meyers podcast, we are going to be doing tie July, which is every one, not every, but tie West movies that have been released in the past 15 years. So we'll be doing Pearl. We'll do an X. We'll do a Maxine, the new one ah that he did in keepers and, uh, something else that I cannot remember right now. but it's gonna be a fun time. Check us out, Frightmer's podcast, you know, find us on the socials.
00:54:15
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, it's easy to do. Just use your fingers. All right, we will see you guys next week. Until next week, cheers.