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Season 4- Weekly Fantasy Corner (Premiership Week 4 Preview)
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In this week's Fantasy Corner, in order to help some of the newbies out there, we look at some of the basic strategy when assembling your Rugby Mag team, as well as what to expect for scores week to week. Side note: last week the scores were pretty low overall. We also look back at the Champi-Yanks League for both divisions in Rugby Mag and do that fun little thing call Start or Sit. Enjoy the laughs at our expanse and tune in.
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Transcript
Introduction and Fantasy League Banter
00:00:08
Speaker
Hey, everybody, welcome back. It is the fancy. My name is Jared. I'm Ben. Welcome everybody into the fancieness. I'm cracking a beer because I'm finishing my free jacket. You got you get them from yesterday. Yeah, yeah, you got that stuff. Obviously, grab your if you listen to us for this, you definitely need to get George a coffee or from the fancy or because I'm damn right. Yeah, you do. Just do it. And you're doing all the things. You're doing all those things.
Fantasy League Movements and Rankings
00:00:38
Speaker
and in our Patreon when it comes out, which we'll talk about. Yes, definitely, definitely that. Let's have a look at, because one curtailed some tea, let's have a look at the scoring for this week. No. I know. Nobody wanted to look at the scores for TRM this week. Oh, it was awful. It was awful. So many bad scores. And I feel bad. I'm extremely privileged saying that. I recognize my, because I... Yeah, you still scored fairly well. I still scored well. I'm still at the top 10 or top, sorry, top...
00:01:07
Speaker
I'm 12. 12 overall. Yeah. I'm still on the same spot I was, but everybody else has been a lot of movement in Champions League. Justin's jumped. Duncan and Carrick both dropped a place each. George jumped and Anton dropped, and then the bottom two are still me and Mark. It's crazy to me to see from up here at the top.
00:01:30
Speaker
And I'm seeing like, oh shit, Justin jumped up. He's now, he's now right behind me. And then I look and I'm like, no, wait, I saw a 200 point cushion there chief. And I gained space over him. So it's like, okay. That's true. That's true. Damn. Just true. But yeah, like nobody was putting 400s up this week. It was pretty, pretty dismal. Um, let's look at league two.
00:01:51
Speaker
Did anybody put up 400? I think the wire, but it wasn't many. Shit. It wasn't many. Uh, yeah. The top was free for 23. Holy shit. Yeah. And that I'm sure that's one of the like only 11, 12 people broke 400.
Tough Fantasy Week and Relative Scoring
00:02:04
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. So that's, that's a rough week for everyone. So just the context on that. If you had a bad week, if you had a bad week in, in TRM fucking don't worry about it at all. Everybody did.
00:02:15
Speaker
everybody did. I took a 20 point hit. Right. It's, it's, this is the, this is a pain week. You're going to come across them. Just, you know, don't worry about your score so much worry about the relative score. So like when I was looking, you know, I'm looking at mine, I'm like, okay, I got
00:02:33
Speaker
What was it? Um, three 54, something like that. And I'm like, okay, that's a shit week. But then I'm like, it's game week, 165 overall, or for the game week. And you know, I'm 70 points behind the top seven. Think about that 70 points. That's it. That's like two or three good players. Like, yeah, that's two players having a really good week. That's it.
00:02:55
Speaker
behind the overall leader for the week. So don't worry about the points. Look at where you're a game week. Look at where you are overall. You want to see more pluses than minuses. You want to see the overall rank going up, then you did a good week. You had a good week. You're fine. Yeah, tough week. Tough one, tough one. Yep. For the D-tier,
00:03:19
Speaker
John still sits at top. There's no movement. One or two. John Franco or one and two. Leannu jumps a spot. Cobus jumps a spot. Yuri jumps a spot and Terry falls a few unfortunately for Terry. Bob and Larry are still in a rough fantasy week. Terry did. Yeah. So I heard real rough all around. Oh, yeah. Oh, he had a bad score. Football fantasy week was bad too. Oh, I heard about that. Yeah. Yeah. He had a bad. Yeah. Unfortunately, he had some bad. We've all been there, bud. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, he had.
00:03:48
Speaker
Oh my. He had some bad picks. He had some bad picks here. Adam's hail. Who had my last one. He came off early. He had Ted Hill.
00:03:59
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Oh, my 10. Yeah. He originally had ribbons and didn't rotate him out. So like, actually, yeah, like, like scored. Oh, like scored 18. So yeah, not bad. But sometimes when you do that for this week, that's good.
Strategic Player Choices and Anecdotes
00:04:14
Speaker
You want to rotate that out. He had Cape on as his captain.
00:04:19
Speaker
Ooh. Oh, Luzzowski was his 10 with the K. Anton did that cape on a captain, too. Yes, he did. We hate to see it. Yeah. And no. Oh, geez. Yeah. And no. And no. I mean, stick somebody on the bench, Terry, on that 20. That's wearing that 21 jersey. It'll help your promise. That's why I even I even called that, though, because I when I couldn't make enough changes that I wanted to make this week. Same. Couldn't make all the change. I wanted to get Vooey the fuck out.
00:04:48
Speaker
And I didn't, I couldn't even get him out of my lineup, which was fine. I added some fine fucking players this week. So no, no, no complaints there. Right. But yeah, I was like, okay, well, you know, once, once you texted me and said ribbons was sitting, I was like, okay, well, good. That, that makes up for a food week. Cause there's going to be enough people who unfortunately like, yeah. Like Terry don't, don't, don't have that heads up.
00:05:12
Speaker
but also have, you know, have him for the lineup. So it's like, okay, that's a bench spot. That's, that's gone.
Fantasy League Standings and App Experience
00:05:18
Speaker
So my, you know, eight points, that's my starting for Vui. And then, you know, whatever points I get from Davidson and then the end, that'll balance everything out.
00:05:24
Speaker
I'm pretty sure it did. Yeah, yeah. One place I do want to take another look at. I hate when players that that's that dropping thing right before the match. Fucking sucks. There's nothing you can do about it. Nothing to be done. Nothing to be done. I do want to look at the Open Tea Fry League. Some guys that aren't in our Champions League like like Tomahawk flops and something witty like that. They if you guys if you guys were ever inclined, you could compete, I promise.
00:05:54
Speaker
Tomahawk flops is right on my butt. Yes, he is. He's right behind me. You like it that way. Well, you know. Yeah. So, yeah, guys like that. If you're ever keen, give us a shout. We'll start working on other divisions. Certainly. But yeah, so that's good. FRW recap real quick before we dive into the TRM talk and strategy.
00:06:21
Speaker
Yep. It happened. Um, Anton got me. So what else is now by 15? So yeah, pretty, uh, I've been struggling on this one. Uh, you got, you that's your two from two now. Yes. I am. Good stuff. George, George beat Justin and just by a hair, Duncan beat character character monster week. Last week comes crashing back down to earth. That's okay. So yeah, George and I are atop the leaderboard with nine points.
00:06:50
Speaker
Um, that's how it makes sense. Yup. Um, Duncan eight Carrick, uh, with six and time with four, Justin has one and you and Mark are at the bottom. All right. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good for that. I don't quite understand what a bonus point is. I haven't figured that out yet. Maybe, maybe you legitimately need four tries for your team. Possibly. That might be it. That might be it. That might be what it's after. Okay. Um,
00:07:21
Speaker
So this this coming week, Mark and Anton are up against each other. I'm against Justin. You've got Carrick and George and Duncan do battle. Yeah. Godspeed boys. Also, did you know that the rugby mag app is also on tablets? Yes.
00:07:40
Speaker
Yeah. I just, I just downloaded it. I didn't realize it. Oh, Hey, look at that. I like this. Can't remember. You know what? I don't know that I knew that. I just use my, I just use lab, you know, web browser. I usually use the desktop too, but it's good for the pinch. If you've forgotten your phone somewhere or your, or your, or your laptop. Um, so yeah, strategy and scoring explained, um,
Fantasy League Strategies and Player Selection
00:08:02
Speaker
Ben and I are both fans of finding cheap buys, but not just for the sake of finding cheap buys. Like you're looking for guys that are going to produce and guys that are going to also not cost you an arm and a leg. Like right now, I think a lot of people have Charles Pietow on the team, like 26% or something like that. And he did well the first game and he's just gone poo since. So, you know, likes of that are the guys you're trying to avoid.
00:08:25
Speaker
For sure. But he's also a kind of guy you don't want to leave sitting off the table because he could have like 40 this week. Oh, totally. But yeah, I guess I'm looking for like guys who will get me a certain standard of points each week, like a known standard that's like 20. You have to have some of the splash players like him.
00:08:49
Speaker
But generally, Kazooie is like a 20 to 30 point player each week. So it's like, yeah, I'll take him. That's why he's so well owned. And now people are like, oh, fuck, this isn't working out. Yeah, it hasn't worked well for him, unfortunately. You know, guys that you're seeing now early in the season, like Alice Genn is getting ridiculous, like he'll he'll come back down to Earth a little bit.
00:09:09
Speaker
And he has to go play for England. At some point, yeah. It's also that part. Right. So you still need to work around that. It's okay to have him. I have him. Same. I do too. He's captain in my first two weeks. So yes, he's my guy. Right. But at the same time, I'm going to have to deal with that coming internationals and I'll either drop him or work around it somehow. Yeah. You look for the bargains. The real
00:09:37
Speaker
The trick to me within the forwards is you look for locks who go for runs. Because locks who get tackles, you're only going to hit a limit to that. Just on tackles alone, we've seen guys get maybe like 30 points.
00:09:54
Speaker
But then, you know, with guys who might, who might actually go for a scoot, like when Robinson went for a scoot the other day and just, yeah, that's the kind of, that's what you want. You know, locks who, and they have to be playing lock. So Chris Vuey this weekend, you might have, I had a lock, but he was playing six. So he was getting flanker points. And that's huge because for locks it's every four meters or two, might even be two meters. That's to me is the, the key right there.
00:10:24
Speaker
Where are we locks two meters, it's one meter for one meter is one point for a prop, which is why again it is ridiculous crazy and locks it's two, two, two meters, you get a point for every two meters. So, and for the hookers and back row it's eight meters. So, right.
00:10:41
Speaker
Bowie playing at Locke gets you four times the amount of points for attacking meters as he does when he's playing sex. And right there, that's the cutoff for me. So I try to avoid flankers if I can.
00:10:58
Speaker
There's some that go for runs, but out and out flankers, you know, you're not going to get, you're only going to get so many points from them. Yeah. And certain guys can still find the points that are out and out flankers. Like Leibenberg has been very productive since he's, you know, and he's a back rower out now. There's no, he doesn't play lock. If he ever plays lock, it'll be a rarity.
00:11:18
Speaker
Um, but you know, and guys like that, uh, uh, Ludlow knows how to find, find the points almost always. Um, the captain of roster, Tom Willis, you have the Willis brothers. Yep. Same. Um, Kenningham has been ridiculous. He's been a guy cause he's been, cause he's also a fetcher too, which helps. Right. So, so guys help too. He can do it all. Um, which is good. Um, and Ben are all has been, has been slow, but watch for him. He'll, he'll, he'll earn your points.
00:11:48
Speaker
Yeah. I'm not dropping him. I got rid of him. I was, that's a, that's a decent bit, especially in with the prices are kind of condensed. It's a decent bit of coin to be sitting there and do not a whole lot, unfortunately. No. And maybe I'll regret it in which case I'll eat my hat, but yeah, you know, it's a, I think it's a yet thing. He'll, he'll do all right in the end. He does. He does too much. It's just, he's not, it's not happening right now. No, that attack hasn't got going. That's for sure. Right.
00:12:18
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. So there's, there's that. And then, you know, having more players than, so, and Ben and I, Ben and I are mostly on the same page with
Patreon Launch and Player Valuation
00:12:27
Speaker
us. Like the specialty positions, you want to get a good, a good number of them. Like I have four props.
00:12:32
Speaker
You know, I have at least two, I have at least two hookers most days. Yeah, I have two, I have two half backs, but like, I wish I had more. Honestly, I'm going to see if I can sneak one more in here. I like to have three because obviously you have the bye weeks now. So you don't want to get a donut for one of those not playing. So right.
00:12:53
Speaker
I was lucky. I slotted Bernhard Jans van Rensberg into my backup nine slot there because he's eligible, isn't he? Yes, Jesus. I threw him in there and then that he's not. Well, now he's 109K, but I picked him up. Right. And that's just, you know, fucking free points right there. So
00:13:15
Speaker
That's, you know, you don't have to do shit like that, but I chose to give that a shot. It kind of worked out for me. I only have one fly half though. One really full. Oh no, sorry. I have two. I added Grayson this week. I have three. So yeah. And I'm probably, I'm going to try to ditch one of them. I did try to get ditch Grayson, but I couldn't. Oh yeah. I told you. Yeah. Yeah. Actually I have four people that are, uh, play F eligible. Now they think about it because I think shellcock's eligible, isn't he?
00:13:44
Speaker
That's a back burner for later. I'm hoping he comes good. I got to deal with Ford first, so I got to know. Let's see if Eddie picks him. If Eddie picks him, then he's probably a decent pick. If Eddie doesn't pick, he's a decent pick. Exactly. So I might just hang on to him for a little bit. He's scoring fine.
00:14:01
Speaker
I agree. I agree. He's a good one. Yeah. And the thing is, I love a versatile player like Freddie Clark. Langford floss number eight. If he's playing, he's 100% worth every penny that he's got. Guys that are versatile for the sake of being versatile and either one aren't playing or two aren't producing,
00:14:19
Speaker
Don't do your fuck. Yeah. Like, don't grab a guy just because he's eligible for four positions, because if he sucks, it's not really going to do you like. It doesn't help. No. Yeah. And there's there's a lot of guys now that are one single position. It's annoying as hell. It is. Damn it, Ed, for being smart and all that shit. Don Brand is is only an eight now. Only an eight. That was great. That was fantastic.
00:14:45
Speaker
Yeah. And he was eligible. Oh, right. Cause he'd get lock type points from eight. So it's like, okay, I'll start him over a normal lock. It's yeah. With the potential to do better with the potential to do better too. Right. So yeah, I miss, I miss that. Damn it, Ed, you gotta be all smart and shit. Yeah. Um, so yeah, let's get into,
00:15:08
Speaker
Yeah, let's talk a little bit about our Patreon, because that's going to be coming out, if not this week, very early next week. And I hope everybody here is excited about it, because Ben and I talked about this before this, but we've been talking about it for a while. And we're excited for the stuff that we're putting out. And I hope you guys enjoy it. No, we're not going to charge you. We're not going to lag. We just want you to be able to buy us our beer, basically, when it comes down to.
00:15:34
Speaker
Yeah. And I would say I do feel like the results speak for themselves because this is the information that I've been using to, um, to crash my team. That's now in, you know, what the top 12. Yeah. Like I'm, and, and apparently I was, you know, I survived the, the week from hell, uh, pretty well because I, I have kind of, um,
00:15:59
Speaker
There's a lot of stuff that you need to know when you're building a team that's not just, if you're just looking at the points that a guy has overall, that doesn't tell you the story at all. Because if he's on the, if he gets a lot of points off the bench, like if you look at like Juan Suman,
00:16:19
Speaker
let's say this year, he has played one game that started, sorry, he's played two games. He has 30 points. So you think, oh, okay, 15 points a game. And then you realize that not only, no, he started once and lost a point. He had negative one points during his start. And then he came off the bench for a match and got 31. So it's like, cause he crashed over. Yeah. That, but that 31 is, is fraudulent in a way from a fantasy perspective because
00:16:48
Speaker
it makes him, it inflates his
Matchup Strategies and Financial Planning
00:16:50
Speaker
points. You're not going to start, first of all, you're not going to start once human.
00:16:53
Speaker
If, you know, if he's on the bench, he's not one of those players, he's not like an LS Genj or a Sinclair or yeah, or a Sinclair or a Holly, Holly Hoskins who, you know, those guys will score. They'll put up 30 from the bench. No problem. So yeah, you might start it. You're not starting once. So, so it's good to know that, you know, where guys are getting their points. But only that is who's scoring better than their, their, their other numbers.
00:17:19
Speaker
And like, you know, both against the teams that they play and against, you know, the other players. So like, you know, um, what's their, what's, you know, what's their average when they start? How many, how many starting points do they average? That, that is, is huge to know. And then because there, there's a disparity between these teams, you got to know the match-ups, you got to know, you know, who's playing against who, who has, who has an easy week, like I said, in, uh, in our, in the other pod.
00:17:47
Speaker
you're starting, you're not starting someone who goes against Sarri's. You're thinking twice about a sale. Yeah, it's not always a good idea. Yeah, sale another one. There are these teams that will kill you fantasy wise and we'll have that information available too. That's not quite, that doesn't really get published. It's, you know, how do the teams do relative to each other as match ups? Both how do they score relative to each other? And how do they shut down the opposition or play against the opposition? What kind of points do they give up?
00:18:17
Speaker
So it's good to know not only, you know, your player average, but also like, you know, if you're playing against a team that just crushes props, you know, do well, could I, is it, is it, is it, again, just really going to hold up against that? The answer is fucking yes, but it's not true across everybody.
00:18:33
Speaker
Um, no, definitely not. Some people score decently, you know, around, around their average for their against their position. But then they, you look at what, you know, what they do against the other team, they just have like an easy schedule or they get a good matchup and right. That might affect them because the T against the teams that they play against, they're not scoring that well. Um,
00:18:52
Speaker
Yeah, it's good. It's good to know, you know, and that kind of tells a fuller picture than you get just from, you know, unless you want to do some serious sleuthing, the shit that I used to do. Right. This all came from the shit that I was trying to do each week and it sucked. So I'm like, you know what, let me just get this to a point where it's like, OK, I'm going to automate this shit. Yeah, automated. Yeah. And then
00:19:17
Speaker
I do have a number about like basically is the person you're playing worth their value, which is the pounds per point really is the bit is the big one. Like the money that you're ditching, pushing into this person, are they returning you good or are they just fucking robbing you blind? You know, like, yes, we talked about a guy like Sam Simmons or Charles Pietel, definitely very expensive, but potentially, you know, yeah. Pounds per point could tell you everything you need to know. Like are they a good return?
00:19:45
Speaker
And they're going to have to be a good return if they're as expensive as them. But we saw Sam Simmons be a damn good return last year for the guy that was one of the most expensive in the game. So, you know, guys like that. Because then, you know, again, we talked about cheapness is not always the best, you know. What's his face? Davidson right now, like, yeah.
00:20:07
Speaker
Is he returning much? Even if he's only 94? I don't know. Probably not much. He had a good week this week. He did, but that's because he played a team that was really soft against Locks anyway. He made a lot of tackles. That's what it was. He didn't really contribute. I was watching that. I was like, I want to see Davidson do well. And I was like, well, he's not doing well. I mean, look, he's got 13 points off the bench. So he would have had 26. And I'm like, oh, okay.
00:20:29
Speaker
Right. And that's a good for the 90 odd pounds that if you were able to do that across two, three games, great return on your investment. Right now. But I only have him because I needed to hit 28. Correct. Right. Well, I don't have that problem anymore. So I have one cheaper one on my squad that if I can get rid of my will, it may not be this week. I may be playing to get rid of the next week.
00:21:04
Speaker
You don't necessarily get what you pay for. I think that's what I, I, that's kind of how I use it too is like, just cause, okay. So Alec Hepburn has scored, he started twice. He scored 20 of both matches. Hey, I'll take that. Then you look at him and you're like, Oh, he's two 36. Right. Is that really worth it? Are you getting, you know, 20 points for your two 36 is not, that's not really where you want to be. No.
00:21:20
Speaker
But yeah, that's not what you're looking for. So yeah, a number like that should help as well.
00:21:29
Speaker
So not amazing by the means whatsoever. You have to consider that, you know, what are you, though, what kind of value, you know, not just value, but are you overpaying for nothing for, yeah, average or less, you know, right? Like I would not be happy if I had been Obano right now. Oh, hell no. He's so expensive and he's doing, he's done nothing. Yeah. You know, so yeah, stuff like that. So that's, that's what we're trying to give you all. So you, you know, especially the newbies out there in the universe, you know,
00:21:55
Speaker
So like I said, just help us buy some beer every once in a while and all this information is going to be yours. That's all we want to do. So that'll be coming out soon.
Start or Sit Decisions and Match Analyses
00:22:06
Speaker
In the meantime, this is one thing that we never make fucking ministry. Start or sit. Oh, you get the big one. I do get the big one. Quinn's versus Bristol. Yes, the rematch. This is anything like what we got last spring. I'm in.
00:22:22
Speaker
I don't think it'll be exactly that, but it'll still be fun. Um, yeah. Anything like from, from a fantasy perspective, uh, for Quinn's I'd stay away from the entire tight five right now, um, until they're injured locks return and their internationals return. Cause, um, it's not pretty like, yeah. And just as we were talking about with, with like a Joe Marlar, do you, do you really want to pay that much for, for Joe Marlar? Um, he's not where, where is he?
00:22:51
Speaker
I can't even find him here. He's off the bench once he started once. Shit. Okay. Well, either way, um, not sure where he's on this, whatever. Um, yeah, he's just a lot to pay. You shouldn't have him on your team because he's too expensive. He's, he's, he's over his value. You're not getting what your, your money's worth. Um, so yeah, stay away from there. Uh,
00:23:14
Speaker
Kenningham and Dom Brandt are just, yes, please, take it. We talked about staying away from some certain loose forwards because of that depressed meters. But Kenningham makes tackles. He's a fetcher. He runs. Dom Brandt does everything. And we'll get loose and just tries, try assists, stuff like that that are just awesome.
00:23:42
Speaker
the entire back line is a full go. I believe we're going to see the return of one Marcus Smith. I think so too. Yep. It sounds like that's how it's going to be. So Tommaso Allen gets fined. Right. But it also could be Tommaso starts and Marcus comes in later as a possibility.
00:23:59
Speaker
So yes, watch that situation. I might even stay away from the 10s entirely, actually, just because even if Marcus plays, he's probably not going to play the full 80. So probably just stay away from the 10s there. On the Bristol side, Sinclair, yes. Ed Holmes, yes. Jake Hainan, yes.
00:24:21
Speaker
Or Dan Thomas. No, he's actually played all right. He scored OK, but not Hughes and not Vue because they're I don't know what the fuck's going on there. Well, Hughes has always been kind of a paperweight fantasy wise. Vue is no. He's turning into one. Right. The nines. Yes. Don't don't worry about last week. Flush it. Everyone had a shit week. Randall, you're in. If you have them on your team, don't worry about starting them. Go ahead. They're they could both go off. You could have 40 points from both players.
00:24:49
Speaker
So, and Pietal, I know he's been disappointing, but this is a match that could work out tastily for him. Yeah. I'm not arguing against that one. Marler has scored. I just had to hold on. Oh, there he is. 10 and 13 in his first two matches so far. And 13, he started one and got 13 and he started it. His original price was 266. So,
00:25:14
Speaker
And that's only seven pounds. He's 274 now. 274 now. More expensive. Yeah. And Gens started at 273. So if you, you know, at the beginning of the season, if you were thinking, oh, I'm going to buy a big, you know, a big name prop, and you picked Marler over Gens, you fucked up. You failed. You messed up, man. Undo. Undo. Do I get a redo?
00:25:39
Speaker
I think I can redo. All right. Saracen's in Newcastle. Saracen's finally returned to the Stonex to play their first home game of the year. Starts and sits for the... Should be a team crowd. I'm sure it's going to be nice and fun. Tom Wilsoncroft, good price if he starts, play him. Hooks have scored well against the team. And I don't see him doing anything different.
00:26:01
Speaker
Um, we talked about Billy V in our previous podcast. Um, if you were brazen enough to select him, he's really expensive. Uh, this actually might be a week that he pays off eight to score well on Newcastle last couple of weeks. So you might be okay with that.
00:26:14
Speaker
Um, I love Ben at all, but at this price, I need to see it, especially as he's playing seven or six. Like, you know, that being the, the problem right now, if he's playing eight and getting that chance to pick the ball up, that's a different story. But right now, I need to see it until good old Orba comes back to my good graces.
00:26:34
Speaker
Poor guy, Newcastle, Sean Robinson or Phil VanderValtz seem to have caught fire for sure. So give them a go, especially since Greg Peterson's not going to be playing again this week. He's traveled down to Uruguay with the US.
00:26:47
Speaker
Oh, good. Okay. Now I feel instantly better about that match. Oh yeah. He was there last week, but he didn't start. I hope he starts. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be helpful. Yeah. Um, series are generous to locks right now. So that's why I'm also giving them a go. Callum chick is worth the price and has been productive every match so far. So he gets a thumbs up from me.
00:27:07
Speaker
Yeah, but even against the series. Yeah, that's fine. The flankers, the back row isn't bad. Again, the first Saracens, it's the hookers that you got to worry about. Save Dolly. Okay. Yeah, Dolly, obviously, but that's also the Tigers. They seem to have got something figured out, but the forwards were not nice. Trevor Davidson, popular pick.
00:27:28
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but apart from a very special prop named Ellis Gens props have been eaten alive against the man in black. So I would give him a pine if I were those people is like, I think he's like seven or 8% on him, which is fairly high for that man. So yeah, I'd give him, I'd give him a probably a bench spot if anything. Sorry, I'm just looking at Cowan chicks numbers. Yeah, he's nothing bad. No, 21 points above average. And
00:27:56
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OK, preview for you. Twenty one, twenty two points above position average. So whatever position he's playing, he scores twenty two points above whatever the other player's average. Not bad. And then against the opposition, he's twelve points higher, eleven and a half. So if Saris give up, you know, 17 points to, you know, six or eight, wherever he's going to be, he'll you can.
00:28:17
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Add 11 to that. He'll be in the 20s somewhere. He'll be in the high 20s, so go for it. Yes, go for it. Yeah. Trevor Davidson's got 6% ownership as well. So, yeah, those 6% that have him, I might pine him or kick him off the team altogether. Not remove him. Just put him in the stands for the day. Have a good view of the matchup there. Yeah, right. Off to London Irish versus Leicester. This should be another entertaining match that I'm guessing will be decided late.
00:28:47
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For some reason, I'm going to believe that. For the Irish start, Creevy, although it could be a rest weekend for him. I think he started all three matches.
00:28:58
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So probably not going to play. Um, all the, all the props are all, all the points that they, they fucking run up points, the front row for, for Irish. Um, I don't know how, but they do. Um, I believe Steve mafia will be playing, um, again for the rest rotation. So I think he should be, he should be a good, good to go. But again, if you buy him, it's probably going to be a rental. So you probably shouldn't even have him on your team.
00:29:24
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Uh, Ben white, I, I am considering dropping Danny care for Ben white. That's a big consideration right there. Yeah. And it's because, and I have to, I want to see it a little bit more from Ben white. He's also very cheap. So, um, but he's also very, he's not only is he very cheap, but he is there nine and he's scoring well. He scored 20 from the bench last week. So he's a guy who like, he's another urine or Randall type too. Um, and he's not going to international. So you can just.
00:29:53
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plug-in show. So that's why, that's one of the reasons why I want to replace DC with him. The centers and Tom Parton should be huge for Irish. I don't know. Allie Hassell Collins is becoming gotta see it territory for me. He might go off a week and have a good week, but I'm not really feeling it from him fantasy wise. Loader was nice to see him back. He didn't score too well, but that's, you know, first match he'll get it out. It's been a while for him.
00:30:23
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On the lesser end, the Alice Ganj, Nick Dolly, or must have must start like, you know, if you're not captaining one, you better fucking captain the other Irish shutting down locks and and Lucy's. So it might be good to avoid their Honro. I like Honro, but he can be shut down. So then shut down by I mean, he'll get you like 18 points. And that's that's critical right there. You know, getting 28 versus 18 is in the long run.
00:30:53
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you know can be big so um hon rose a good guy to have to start but not every match this would be a good week to to potentially find a spot on the bench farm yeah although he should make a lot of tackles so who knows tbd uh start um jack van portley sit youngs if they're in you know who
00:31:11
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Depending on who's at nine. If Young's is nine, he said him. JVP is starting. Start him. Matt Scott is a good option. Harry Potter and Ndolo too. Harry Potter is scoring well this year so far. In two matches, low sample size, but he has come alive, so something to watch there. I don't start Dan Kelly because he's out three weeks. Yeah, good decision on that part. Give me a hint.
00:31:39
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And why is he out through your eye? It doesn't matter. Don't worry about it. Yeah, yeah. Uh, Gloucester and sale, uh, for Gloucester, Lewis Ludlow been very consistent and sailor a little forgiving to flankers. His tackling stats help him stay consistent. So, you know, that, that guy you need that score is 20 almost every week. He's probably your winner. Um, even against sale who are usually a little stingy and fancy, um, Chris Harris, Chris Harris returned with a bang and sale have gone all civil like up the middle of somehow.
00:32:09
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So if he's in there at 13, I'd give him a super duper thumbs up. I don't think sale are going to be much defensive without without a 10. Yeah, not going to help really.
00:32:21
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as Steve did previously weeks. Don't love Seabrook, too little production, even at his price. And he's got a fairly high ownership percentage, which worries me about who the hell is picking these guys. Yes. Pine him, please. For sale, JP Duprea, assuming he starts, he's the play. Ben productive with three straight lineup seals and lineup wins are his main scoring categories. And that doesn't really go into slums very often. So give him a thumbs up. The halfbacks, Cliff or Quirk,
00:32:50
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Both could be a decent option, especially the way Cliff's been playing. Price-wise, if you can't get yourself on Ben White for whatever reason, this might be another option for you. So especially if you're wanting to think outside the box. Bevin Rod was great last year, but he's now reached, I got to see it territory. Pine him or stick him on the bench until he shows that he is where he used to be.
00:33:17
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off to what is sure to be the match of the weekend. I was wrong about the first one. It's absolutely going to be Exeter versus Worcester. Oh man, yeah. You got a good match and you got kind of a cruddy one. And from a fantasy perspective, this is not the match to be a part of. Because again, Exeter are good defensively, even though they're
00:33:41
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Early season, they're not good, so this is where they're vulnerable still, especially without their lions. Their defense is actually pretty civ-like, so Worcester could have some fun this weekend.
00:33:53
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For, but for Exeter Hepburn, maybe if you, if you, you know, he's, he's a decent scoring prop. As I, as I said, he's a little bit on the pricey side for the low value he'll give, but also consistent, more consistent than the lower value players. So kind of, I'm not against you if you have Hepburn. And if you do start him this week, um, capstick and Armand are the only chief side that you know, forwards I'd consider. Um, it's the lines come back. Um, yeah.
00:34:23
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hog and hodge. I don't know which is playing and yeah I'm not sure what what really to do with that I'm also not sure what kind of fly half situation we're looking at with with Exeter so
00:34:34
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I don't know. I'm not liking it. And O'Flaherty, I can't really recommend. He had a good week last week, but I don't know if I can recommend this week. It's like, please open prey if you're playing him. Right. On the Worcester side, the Type 5 should do well because they'll make a lot of tackles, because that's what Exeter do.
00:34:53
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I wouldn't go out of the way to pick them up, but if you got them, like this is might actually be a decent Waller could have a good week just because of tackles. Maybe, maybe, maybe. So I might not drop him. I don't know. Lewis and Kovacic should be good in the back. Same reason, just for tackles alone. Not Ted Hill, though, because he's suspended for three weeks. Yeah, that whole part.
00:35:14
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Um, in the backs, Willie Heinz, Venter and Lawrence are, are, are good to go. Um, they'll find some gaps, uh, sit Williams, even if he's healthy, you know, let's talk about and, and she'll cock this week. Um, yeah, no, might not be the best week to start him in, in, in TRM. No, probably not. The wings are as always kind of a gamble and depends on who's playing.
00:35:35
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Yeah, it depends on which one it is, right? Because I mean, you know, if
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00:35:38
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Duhan comes back, that changes things. Oh, it changes things. We'll see. Right. And then I believe this is, is this a Sunday matchup, Washington, Northampton? Yeah. For the loss.
00:35:53
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Tom Cruise, love the price, love the production. His first two matches put him in new. Yeah. Elliot Stu, another guy that's having great production, price isn't too bad. How the hell, Beth, let him get going. I have no idea. They didn't pick him enough from what I understand. He was not first choice enough, which... No. What the fuck is their problem? Why? Stu can make an alley. Stu can make an alley could have been a thing. True. For whatever stupid reason.
00:36:23
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Not that he's not a bad player, but I think off the bench is a spot. Anyway.
00:36:28
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McAllie's Duke with you was off the fuck. Yeah, that's your that's your vision that that's it. Right. For the loss for on the other side of the coin for them. Auguray a decent share of ownership on him. And despite the price and versatility, as Ben and I discussed earlier earlier last week, amongst ourselves, just not doing enough at that out and out flanker position. So he's a pine for me right now.
00:36:53
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For the Saints, Sam Adivasi, wass have been very charitable to hookers, and he's been okay at the very least, so I think he'll be one of the better ones by season's end either way, so he gets a thumbs up from me. He'll get up there. Yep. Tom Woods, an interesting one these days. Flankers are okay against wass. He scored fairly well. Grant, he's been buoyed by tries, but hey,
00:37:15
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You find in the trial line nothing really to run away from. So maybe an off the wall play this week. If you're if you have Tom would give him a thumbs up if you got him on the other side of the coin for the Saint Matt Proctor. Not terrible. The first two weeks will also been really tough on centers. Their first two matches. So pass on him this week. Again, maybe bench if you're worried about missing out on points for good old proctologist there. How much is Matt of AC right now? I have him so I can tell you in a second.
00:37:44
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Okay. Cause I'm, I just want to do it to, cause I had something to say about him and I wanted to make sure I understood that. Um, which while you get to that 206, 206. Okay. See that's reasonable. I would honestly.
00:37:56
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be looking, look at Tom Cruise. He's he's 173 right now, so he's cheaper and he's scoring like a fucking madman. I would consider riding Tom Cruise for now or, you know, another player, maybe Nick Dolly. And then a certain point, because I experienced this with Sam out of AC last year and you brought it up pretty well, that he will come back up. He did that last year. He did the same thing. His first like six or seven was not great. Yeah.
00:38:24
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garbage. And then last half of the season, he made his way up to like the second or third overall. Yes. He performed so well last year, but at the end I had him on my team for sure. And I feel like he's doing that same thing again this year. So like he's gotten, he's been all right. Oh no, he got 25 and 21. He did okay.
00:38:43
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just not blow you, blow you away. Like I said, okay, which, you know, hopefully means if he's going in that direction of trend, like, you know, I mean, somewhere in the middle to high 30, you know, mid 20s, high 30s every week, which should be great. So so my recommendation would be to
00:39:00
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you know, hold on or hold off on Matt of AC, adding him had somebody else who could still, you know, go fucking crazy like a Nick Dolly. I ride George McGuigan because he just saw it every week. Yeah, he's pretty strong too. But that's also he's 224. So I'm looking to drop him and add. But either way, where I'm getting to is with Matt of AC, wait, wait on him. He'll he'll start scoring. That's when you pick him up, kind of wait till he shows at first the big scores and then you add him because then you'll get your money's worth. So he's 17 percent under already.
00:39:30
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Right. So that'll go up to like 25 in a couple weeks. Probably. Yeah. Wait on that. I think the people are being patient on that. I think they're being smart. Okay. Of the weeks here. Of the weeks. I'll jump in. I'll lead off.
00:39:49
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I signed him two weeks ago thinking you got almost on a kind of a throw away. The thing like, OK, this guy will be all right. Oh, he's been all right, all right. And all right. All right. My starter. All right. All right. All right. Start of the week for the wasps. They're fucking everywhere. Tom Willis.
00:40:12
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against Northampton. Yes. Yes. There's, there's whole defense. Yeah. I think he's going to do just fine. Yeah. I did grab him. Um, my start of the week, I spoke about this guy earlier and he's walking into a real good matchup this coming week. Um, coupled out with the fact that he's been very good scoring streak. Um, so it leads me to believe that this will be a good one again. So my start of the week around for the prem is sale sharks and the prems tallest player, JP do Priya.
00:40:40
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Nice. For Sin of the Week, this is a guy I really like. I've been talking nicely about him for a while now. Somebody spoke out in his favor and I started paying attention to him and every bit the part.
00:41:00
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This week is not the week though. Um, it's, it's a bad matchup against the team that I talk about. You don't start players against him or against them. Um, saris. So Adam Radwan, I, this is a week to, I, you know, he might not be completely sittable. So put them on your bench, but absolutely sit at the week. Take it. He shouldn't don't, don't put them in your starting lineup. Find someone else. Let me let someone else make that bad decision.
00:41:26
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Yeah, I think so too. Because my sits from the same match. One of those guys that's only owned as much as he's had as he is because one, he's fairly cheap and two, he had a great week one. So that kind of made people go, ooh, pretty. I think the wall of reality is going to hit him this week and his owners are going to be really mad. But sorry, my say of the week for around four of the prom is Newcastle halfback Louis Schudr.
00:41:54
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Oh, yes. Yeah, very much so. I was I was scared there for a minute. No, but might have been going for Robinson. No, no, no, no, no, I think you'll be fine. Like I said, I think I think I own Robinson. I'm like, No, he's talking about me. I can't give him the thumbs up earlier anyway. Yeah, cool. No, no. Yes, I think students going to have a tough time this week. Now that you else is going to argue with that honestly.
00:42:21
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Okay, the M of pick. I now have a three game lead on you. Fuck you. Listen, I wish one of those matchups went the other way. That's true. I was screaming at television like to the point where you would have been okay with it. But it ended up going the way it was. Well, all right. I got to start taking myself out of a hole. Yeah, Quinn's Bristol.
00:42:46
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Quinn's. Yeah, same. They just looked so much better going into them by. And they're still... Yeah. Sarri's Newcastle. Sarri's. Oh, Sarri's. Yeah, same. I'm definitely picking them this time. After that match... Okay, so it's been a while since Sarri's had been in this position, but
00:43:09
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Um, do you, you've seen how they react to losses, right? Yeah. And, and especially how they react to losses that are kind of like, yeah, sorry, Newcastle. No, no, no. Yeah. You're going to, you're going to get the brunt of it. Uh, exiles and Lester. I'm taking the away team. Yeah. Same. Yeah. Lester on a roll. They're going to win a Gloucester and sale at King's home.
00:43:39
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I'm taking the team that has a 10. Same. I'm taking the team that has a really good 10 at that. So, right. Yeah. Home team wins this one, I believe, especially, you know, who knows what the hell's going on with the 10. Sure. For sale, um, Exeter and Worcester.
00:43:56
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Exeter. That's Andy Park. Yeah, exactly. It's at Sandy Park Worcester. I don't again need to know what I would prefer to know the lineups before I made this call, but at the same time, I, I, you know, I like what Worcester are bringing to the table this, you know, this year, but let's, I don't know if it's Exeter. It'll be, it'll be like it was in week two against Quinn's. They'll give them a fight, but they won't win. Right. Was and Hampton at the CBS.
00:44:25
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at the Rico Saints Saints. Okay. I'm going to go wasp. I don't know what the wasps are. I think they're, they're a decent team and it's a home match for them, but, but they've been known to lose home matches. Yeah. It wouldn't be the, would not be the first time. It would not be the first time whatsoever. And yeah, I don't think they're that good yet. No, I'll take them. That should be, that should be a great match. I will say who's playing center for them.
00:44:55
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Who was? Probably the spank kid in Jopris. I tried to guess. Although I did like spank. I think that would be. Yeah, he didn't look too bad. Is Fekky hurt? I think he got, I think he picked up a knock a week before. Yeah. So the rest of them last week. So, and also on that, on that hard patch up it, you know, that, that 4G is not friendly. So you got to, if it's like, if it's Fekky and spank, that's, that's something different, but I don't know. That's a pretty nice combo.
00:45:21
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Yeah, I think all has been good Proctor. Yes. Right. So I just, yeah, I like what what saints are doing right now more than what wasps are doing, even if it's in a way match.
00:45:31
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00:46:18
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