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Glick's House of Music: Sapient Scar
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Tonight on Glick's House of Music, Glick welcomes Vk Lynne and David Ruiz from Sapient Scar do a no-holds-barred interview covering covering he music,the passion,and the chaos behind the band. Tune in and crank it loud. Live on The Nonsensical Network Glick's House of Music your unofficial backstage pass
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Introduction to Hello Grown
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Musicians gather still.
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Voices rise in sweet decree.
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Jawless blend of sonic art. Touching souls a brand new star.
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Chill hangouts, no time spare.
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All things music a vibrant call for one and all To give their all in this sanctuary where dreams ignite music's power
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Rockin' interviews, stories shared.
Themes in Lyrics: Destruction and Illusion
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Music unites on Hello Grown.
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Destroy, decoy, search and destroy, drive them out of their minds. You can try this life, batting your eyes, use them as rocks for your climb.
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Weak is the weapon Failed to fool them all You bring Armageddon
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It's a shame, this game, making a name All for making a scene They can't see, believe, or take it from me That they're part of a scheme Weak is the weapon Failed, tickles them all
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You bring Armageddon If they ever let you fall
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Fucking hell
Welcome to Glick's House of Music
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yeah. That's a hell a way to kick a show off. Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Nonsensical Network right here. You guys are hanging out on Glick's House of Music. You're an official backstage past all things music.
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If you're not already, go ahead check us out, guys. Bio.link slash Nonsensical Network. All them links are there where you guys can give us a follow, a like, and a share. We'd greatly appreciate that.
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Shout out to Wally. had a good show last night with the catch-up, um with the weekend happenings. But enough about us. Enough about Wally.
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We're here for a purpose, and we're here for a reason. We have Miss VK Lynn and David from Sapient Scar.
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You guys fucking rock, by the way. Thank you. Thank you so much. I've been listening to a couple of the songs the last few days. i was actually doing a post last night in our stories, and my girlfriend was like, damn, you must really like that song because it's just on replay.
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We like it too. So I'm glad Yeah, no, you guys you guys kick ass. Thank you for coming on and hanging out with me. We're a little late. Sorry, guys. That's on me. Technical difficulties. But thank you guys for hanging hanging out and not wanting to strangle strangle me. but I didn't say that. i Yeah. yeah know but well i Watching me me kind of did talk about that.
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It's okay. yeah You wouldn't be the first ones. I would say get in line. But- That's, we're happy to be here. No, I appreciate it.
Origin of Sapient Scar
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So i want to ask you guys right off the bat, the name of the band.
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Where did that come from? You want me to think? Sure, why not? You know, names are are probably just as hard to come up with as just the concept of a band or to song. um We just went back and forth with listing different words that we found interesting and then VK kind of put two of them together. vk loves the English language and she's very good and she's a writer. So she put two words together that made sense to kind of what we wanted the vibe of the band to be.
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And ah we just said, let's go with that. I mean, we went through a couple of kind of iterations and back and forth. But we said here's the thing. So so sapient sapient means wisdom. Right. And um David and I have both you know been down this road. We're not young. You know, we're not 16. So right. we We've seen some things things. And when we first met, we were talking about all the things that we've seen and whatnot. And so, you know, after that, you got some wounds, you got some scars. Right. But you've learned some things. you're a little smarter now. And it's like, we started writing this music and it's like, yeah, it's like sapient scar. It's like, it's like that you, you've got wisdom from the wounds. And so that's what the music is about. And that's what we're about. Yeah. Like they're saying there's this, the the scars that you wear and the ones that you don't, and you learn from all of them, hopefully, you know, hopefully, hopefully you learn. yeah buts That's sort of the idea behind it. Yeah.
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No, I dig it. I like it. And it is one of those, you know, you want to, you want something that's going to like, either grab somebody's attention or make people stop and go, hold on a second. how was That was literally the case argument because I was like, I don't know, maybe people weren't going to really get it. It's hard to pronounce.
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And it's like people will be like, well, I want to know what that is because yes it is sort of like what's sapient. It's going to make people go look it up. Yeah. and As
Musical Journey and Collaboration
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a lifelong English teacher, I like for people to go look it up. So ah i should ah I should. You know what?
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Please forgive me again because I brutalize the English language on a daily basis. so right yeah loves you It still loves you. I hope so. but we We've had a long treacherous journey together the last 40-some years. Do you see all that you ah and I do. A few of them. They've had dad jokes all day long. Except that I'm not very good at them. Every once in a while, i get ah I get a good one in here and there that I don't mean to. but oh Sorry, I almost dropped my head.
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but But my kids are also really mean to me, so I don't think dad jokes would fly too much in my house. so Wow. That's too bad. Who's going to be mean to you with your tattoos and your beard and whatnot? I would think your kids are scared to death and they're like, yes, dad, whatever you say.
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Mainly outside of this house that does work, but in this house, everybody knows that I may look like a Sasquatch, but in actuality, I'm a big teddy bear. Yeah. So yeah, typically, um, but I also raised them to be little smart asses and be quick witted and not to worry about people. So I didn't think that was going to include me.
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Once again, no, um, um
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i'd Like I said, I dig the name of the band. you guys, I mean, you guys fucking rock, like I said. um But how long have you guys been together? I know, VK, you've been doing this for a long time just from looking at your social media. And David, looks like you've been doing it a long time as well. But you guys just kind of came together recently, haven't you?
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I want to say, has it been a year? About a year. About a year. Yeah. And it's, you know, it in the beginning it was, it was slow going. We were just trying to figure things out, but when it took off, it really took off at quite a pace. So it, yeah, it is, here we are now.
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Yeah. Lee Kay has, uh, been, you know, had her own solo music, uh, solo band or been in other projects. And I was in a band before i've been in other bands, but I was in a band for a long time before this.
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And when that ended, I just sort of threw it out there like, hey, um I want to start something new. And VK was one of the first people to kind of say, hey, like, let's try it out. And we yeah basically connected right away and we're like, yeah, we should work together.
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And we wrote songs fairly quickly. it So that told me, like, there is something here because it was effortless. and Yeah. sort but And here we are now. You can't be bad when you find a partner doing something in the entertainment world creatively and you guys just automatically just mesh.
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Yeah, it's not easy to do, for sure. Yeah, yeah. But this this was very, very easy in that sense. and I didn't, I don't think either of us had to really say much. It was just like, I would send VK some music and he'd come back a couple days later with like a full song and be like, we don't really need to do anything. Like that's it.
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So yeah. So that part's been really awesome.
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Yeah, yeah. Can't beat, like I said, you can't beat that when you guys mesh really well. was it Was it hard to find the rest of the band or was that just people that you guys knew? who were like, hey, we're doing this new kick-ass project. What are you guys doing?
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but It was, it actually wasn't that difficult in that sense. It was more like I had an an idea of a couple of people that I wanted to work with, people that I know from other projects and, you know,
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when we had ah song together, were like, let's present it to them and see if it's something that they would want to be a part of. And so John, our drummer, and Brendan, our bass player, kind of were in almost immediately. They were like, sure, like this is awesome.
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And then ah Well, yeah, Ali, Ali, I had met before that. Because when you've been in this in a long time, you're all connected in this weird web. And so her ex-boyfriend had been my lead guitar player about 15 years ago.
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So bizarre. So I met. And um she, cause she can't introduce herself because she had heard my voice for years when she was with him, but we had never met somehow. And so she was like, oh, you know, someday I'd like to play with you. And I said, well, you will someday, that's gonna happen. And then like literally a year and a half later,
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We got this done and I messaged her and I said, hey girl, you know, working on this project, blah, blah, blah. And she said, say less, I'm in. was like, okay, can I send you the song? So I sent her the song she said, yeah, let's go. And so we were supposed to be just meeting it with John. were supposed to be meeting up at a bar with John to just kind of talk. And the next thing you knew, we were meeting with John, Brendan, Allie, and there's the whole band sitting there. And we're like, well, okay, yeah I guess, I think we're a band. Right. yeah I mean, it almost sounds like this was this was meant to be in a way.
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The way it all just kind of done yeah fall indeed you know fell into your laps, so to say, pretty pretty easily. and Once VK and I started working on the music, um the band did come together fairly quickly. yeah Because like I think I knew the people that i kind of wanted to to bring in. yeah And you know it didn't take that long to get them on board.
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And then with Ali, it sounds like yeah similar, like VK was like, I know the perfect person is she she's in.
Exploring Musical Backgrounds
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So I was like, and I trust VK and, you know, we kind of like built this trust about the people that we want to work with. So um yeah, and, you know, we did have two songs that came together really quickly with just us basically.
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um But, you know, now we're working on on some new stuff that is going to be part of like a full package. So we're excited about that. Well, as a new fan, I'm definitely excited.
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um I'm really excited to see you know what you guys got coming up and what you come out with. But have you guys always done the heavy metal, the rock scene? Have you done any other in your... Do we want to go down that road? I didn't have K-pop no period in my... No, no, no. I have always been a rock guy, rock metal guy, so...
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I mean, i kind of feel like i'm I'm a jack of all genres um in that, like I started in the singer songwriter world and, um but I was always just a little too noisy for that.
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they They didn't really like the looks of me. And um then I kind of moved into blues and that ah like, I was young enough when I got into blues that they're like, we can't take you seriously in blues. You're too young. And like, okay. And I finished my second, second, third, second third solo record. And, um,
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I heard Nightwish for the first time and I was like, what is this? What is this? the music Is this an orchestra? What am I listening to? i have no idea. And um that's when I found symphonic metal. And then from there, one literally went from doing symphonic metal all of a sudden being in a prog technical crazy band that was super crazy metal that like tested all the limits of me. And um yeah, and then i just never looked back because the metal community was absolutely the most welcoming of any genre that I've worked in. They are awesome.
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You know, like metal heads will accept anything as long as it's good music. You could go out there with a brand. Yeah. They're like, fuck yeah. They'll give you the horns for literally a banjo if they like it. They're on my heart now. you know I'm never going turn my back on them. and and They really are. i mean i Being a music lover, I listen to everything and all things, but it always seems like I always come back to, which is weird, the hard rock, rock, country, blues is always kind of where I come back to at any given time, but um
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I love going to heavy metal shows because I mean everybody there for the most part is just there to have a a great time and here's some kick-ass music. I'm too old for mosh pits now, ah even though my brain says, hey buddy, maybe we got one more in us. yeah Maybe buddy, just one more. And I'm like, ah yeah, no, it takes three weeks to recover. Just ah slipping off the curb.
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And you know just the whole genre a thing, are like, well, what are what kind of band, where do you fit in? like That's always such a question, not that you asked that, but I don't feel like we're necessarily like a metal band either, because um we have elements of metal, but I think ah I would just say it's like hard rock more than anything if we weren't going to put a label. Because I think metal has some very,
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like strong connotation and people expect something out of like calling band metal like that's not metal like so um but yeah we i love metal i'm the metal head uh for sure and so i've been influenced by a lot of metal bands but a lot of just grunge as well you know i love allison chains is one of my favorite so there's kind of like a mixture of all of that and and just I don't know. There's two songs out there, right? I don't know heard the second one as well, but that's not like a metal song, right? It depends on what kind of metal.
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Like that could be a Visions of Atlantis. This is the thing. And I thought that too, until we went out, my old band went out with Visions of Atlantis, and there were metal heads of every description there. There were ones that had Cannibal Corpse t-shirts on and ones that had like, you know, yeah you know what is it? this is What am I thinking of?
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its something that has like even song or something like that, you know, and some angel laughing, you know, it's like there there there's such a range, there's such a huge range. I think rock as a genre is one of the few music genres that have so many variants, subgenres off of it, you know, the kind of spider web off of it, kind of like horror movies, you know, the kind of, well, still in that category, but love I love horror movies. Me too!
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ah But, yeah, I mean, even once upon a time, believe it or not, like Warrant and you know, bands like that were considered heavy you metal. Not that I'm shitting on the hair bands because Lord knows I love them. I loved them when I was younger and i still to to this day. so But they were considered metal at some point, you know.
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Yeah. So, yeah, no, I mean, it it's just that community, man, the rock community. It's it's it's one of those ones that, you know, they They come with open arms. They just want to hear good music and have a good time.
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ah Which is what you guys do. And VK, I gotta tell you, I had Jules and the Howl on here, who's very good become a very good friend of mine. She's been on the show multiple times. And i think you commented or liked. And you know doing these shows, I like to go and check out other artists, especially ones who like the post or comment on the post and stuff like that.
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And within about two seconds of hearing your voice, I was like, oh, I gotta have her on the show. but You have an ah absolutely amazing voice, and it is so freaking powerful.
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And now, you know, in doing working stuff. It really But now doing, like, little bit of homework and and seeing how long you've been doing it, it's it's wild to see that you've been able to keep it up for so long. and yeah i You know, I'm hard to stop because, you know, I...
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yeah it's this thing of like a lot of people when they feel like they're not finding quote unquote success, they stop. And I'm like, well, what do you call success? Like, does that even mean right what does that mean? And at this point it's like, you can't, i I have many times been angry at the industry, you know, and said, that's it, I'm not doing music anymore. And then I'm like scribbling in my little notebook. Like if you're a musician, you make music, that's what you do. It's like trying to tell a squirrel, you don't like nuts anymore. It's like, ah.
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Good luck with that. So you just keep going, you just keep going and you find ways to do it. know I think it's from on your perspective and and what the act like the goal is and I'm not gonna speak for like
Concept of Success in Music
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anybody else. There's a lot of so many different ways of thinking about it. But for me, just finishing the songs is success. yeah You know, like the fact that we have two songs out now and we're working on new ones and I'm proud of them.
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I love them. I'm successful in that sense. So like anything else that happens beyond that, I can control it I mean, we only have much that we can do. Yeah. um And hopefully we can expose more people to the music. That's definitely a goal. But even if you do that, it doesn't mean anything is going to happen beyond that. So we could work with a few people, that's awesome. And like said, to me, success is just accomplishing the goal of creating the thing and then releasing it. so
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Thank you, Kayla. yes let's stop ah Thank you. Thank you. i appreciate you. that the the die that The box, it's actually called fire. It's been a long time.
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yes a lot time That was the first thing that Kayla's my girlfriend. That was the first thing she said when I, cause I always run, run all my, like, I'm going to, going to have them on. I'm like, I'm like, I'm going to ask if they'll come on the show. First thing she said, Ooh, I love her hair. I painted myself for a pink corner. can never change this now. I know. David's going to his orange. Just, you know, there you go.
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you know hi there you go nice that's gonna be a drastic color change from can imagine david with a different color hair like it makes sense yeah i mean i think i'm threatening that i'm just gonna embrace the gray and dye my hair gray it's just some strips i mean yeah yeah um pierce asked chatterbox is always open these guys sometimes they ask questions that are worthwhile sometimes they just want see themselves on the on the screen but who's your guys's biggest influence in in music well have different ones but we have like that what's crazy is we have different ones but we also have the same ones so go dude um well i mentioned that was in chains already so that's the same that's the same they're a big one i love jerry controls plane um
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I think his guitar playing has been more of an influence on my playing than, don't know, John Petrucci, because I'm not a super technical player. mean you don't want to play every note in existence in the first five minutes of the song? That was a lot of work. It's good, huh? I don't know if it was fun.
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so The band that sort of started me on um down the the road of the journey of playing guitar is Metallica. So that's you know a huge one for so many of us, but it's mine for sure.
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And then it just snowballed from there. So kind of went down the Metallica road to like Alice in Chains and a lot of the grunge stuff, Soundgarden, and also melodic death metal, like the Gothenburg scene, and flames is one of my favorites as well. So those would be probably mine.
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Yeah. I was a big Melissa Etheridge fan right in the beginning because I had never seen a woman. let me get you and your metal card. and yeah No, no. like fuck um Melissa is a badass. Like if she were here right now, she'd kick your ass. ah you absolutely um But for me, like, yeah, I had never seen a woman like when that when come to my window came out, like, was like, just in jeans and a shirt like she wasn't like, you know, hooched out or anything. And she just thing. And I was like, Yes, okay. Like, I finally clicked with somebody. i was like, Okay, there we go. I'm like, this is it. And then I started dating this clown.
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And um every time he showed up he had Cannibal Corpse or Queensryche or a Dream Theater or something in the car blaring and I just started absorbing it and then Xtreme kind of became like i couldn't i I couldn't stop. Once I started with Xtreme I couldn't stop and like there was an Xtreme record for every stage of my life and until Nuno Betancourt dies I will chase him to write a song with him if I die without having written a song with Nuno. It's a life wasted.
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It's a life wasted. um so yeah it it yeah all those hair metal bands you said yes yes i i'm with you i'm with you you know we we listened to you know steve vai when heavy debbie was singing for them and whatnot like i will say he was a clown but he introduced me to a lot of good music this steve song no like an actual clown his name was tweety that was his name it's not really his name but it was his nickname and it stuck Yeah, it's an unfortunate nickname, but.
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You gotta to be one time son of a bitch and you have your nickname Tweety. And six months engaged to a Tweety, yes. Yep. The
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her biography. BK Bird. oh and through I know, I know. If you're watching, sorry. Well, they were watching. now So yeah, that's influences, I guess. Yeah.
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Lyrics are important to me. So if someone's got good lyrics, that's that's usually all it takes for me. I mean, I don't care really if it's metal or if it's country or if it's blues.
On-stage Presence and Fan Interaction
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you know If the lyrics are there, the words always hit me. That's why I love Beth Hart.
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That's why I love the Indigo Girls. Yeah.
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Freaking glitching out over here. Yay.
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Thank you, Kayla.
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She's with me.
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You're frozen. always reading the No, he's frozen. Oh, he's frozen. Frozen until. Oh, no. Are we frozen too? I hope not. We'll let it go.
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Yeah. that Okay. I think I glitched. Sorry. my Still like it. it' For now.
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I'm telling you. it's It's not one thing. I told you guys earlier. It's a Tuesday that feels like a Monday right now. Sure not. I was trying to catch it before it got too bad. I seen it start to happen and I was trying to swap Wi-Fives, but I wasn't quite fast enough.
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So sad part about it was I can sit here and hear you guys. And then I said something I'm like, wait a minute, I'm clearly frozen. he little bit Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, I was going to say, when you were talking about the as you said, the clown, and you said his nickname was Sweetie. was like, you got to be a a tough son of a bitch with a nickname like that.
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That's true. um even was Well, he was fast. like Tiny is usually like this huge guy. He was a off-country runner, and his claim to fame was he had a 447 mile. so like He was fast. He was super fast. and so you know It was about this big and really, really fast.
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And yellow. and And yellow, of course. With the blonde hair in a ponytail. It was not blonde. Oh, wow. Yeah, I don't understand blonde men. i don't i have so much trouble seeing them.
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I can't stand blonde men. They're just, I don't know. I feel like that's... Sorry, you heard it here first. DK wants to do away with all blonde men. Okay, I'm not saying do away with them. I'm just saying they're not for me. Yeah, they're not for me.
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and okay That's not that where my benches are. think heard you say the world would be a better place. Oh my gosh words in my mouth. ah yeah yeah No, so I know very nice blonde men. I think. I can't see them. That's a strange sight.
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that's just that's a strange sight
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Let's off the trails here, off the tracks for little bit. Anyways. So the summer's going to be big for you guys. Like the music's out. know you
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We can't hear you, so. Yeah, you're glitching super hard. Yeah. Very choppy choppy.
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It's going to be one of those nights. gonna be one of those nights Is that better? No, it's nice. We frozen little bit, but can you speak? Maybe the audio is OK? I'm not sure. No, no, no.
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Here we go. well
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Robot.
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Awesome.
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He's frozen. Frozen.
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But we're still more
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Oh, technology. yeah That is grossly out of town. Sounded like I need him. sounds like a what? any It could be. could be That is old as the hills.
00:32:26
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Yeah. you need use Oh yeah. It's actually not bad. It is very old. It's just us I tell a is the difference between it's just us now i tell why what is the difference between A fan and a bicycle.
00:32:59
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I don't know. Me neither. oh i was like, you know, he's building the plane as he's flying it here. I feel that happening. I'm just going off of what I'm seeing. Oh, okay. It's like that. It's that sort of humor. Yeah. Like if he was a standup comic, he just worked, he did crowd work. I'd be sitting down if I was a standup comic. Yeah. and That's fair. That's fair. Yep.
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If anyone's watching, we're still here. We're here. We're still here. Hello. We are Sapiens Scar. Yes, we are. Okay. David. Correct. Correct. And i we have a record coming out this summer.
00:33:29
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Yeah, very soon. we should you know say that. Yeah, we actually got a mix of one of our songs back today. Correct. And we are going to listen to it after this. Yeah. It's our favorite.
00:33:41
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Yeah. It's one of my, it's my favorite. It is my favorite. It's my favorite. It's my favorite. And I'm just, you know. Yeah. I don't care if anyone else likes I mean, i would like for you to like it. Hopefully people.
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No? Is this?
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Anyway, yeah. So we're excited about yeah the new songs. Correct. All of them, but this current one is so good. Yeah, it is really good. I don't know if our guy's coming back or not.
00:34:15
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I'm feeling a little disjointed here. Yeah. But we're live. and We are live. It's still going? Okay. So maybe we can. So ask us some questions, folks. this Is there a chat thing? I'm sorry. I'm dead in the water, but working on it. Okay. He's dead in the water, but he's working on So this is your chance, folks. This is AMA time. Ask us anything. like um It's okay, Kayla. It's okay. We're here. got this. We're not giving up. We're not giving up. um Yeah. so ask us some questions. We'll answer them.
00:34:43
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David will probably answer them sarcastically. no not No, that's not how he is. i was gonna say, we can play some songs, but we don't really. Sure. Well, here, this one actually should be your tune.
00:34:56
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Yeah, let's see what you've been acoustically. But don't have a guitar pick. Hang on. I've got nothing but guitar picks ever. Let me take my pick. no See what I mean? Yeah.
00:35:08
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There you go.
00:35:17
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Do you that one? do. do know that one. Do you know that one? can't tell you why you had to feel. wait. It's not tuned. It's not tuned. Okay, but it's got a tuner in it.
00:35:29
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It's okay. All right, he's going to do it by ear, folks. Anything can happen here.
00:35:39
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right, it sounds sinister now. oh wait, don't you tune to some funky tuning or something? Because this is just standard. This is standard, so it'll be higher than normal. Just what I need.
00:35:55
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So he's working on it. He's working on it. So we're just, I can't tell you why you had to feel this pain.
00:36:24
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Oh, that's... Are you okay? Are you good?
00:36:46
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He's coming back. Are coming back? I, uh, I, I'm Glick's, uh, best friend, Wally. I'm, uh, I got my own show. I'm jumping in right now to kind of, uh, help out a little bit while he's dealing with some technical difficulty guys. And, uh, all right. mike so we're trying like We're literally just fucking around right now. So yeah, it's nice to meet you guys and everything. Actually, I go by Pierce in the comments. I was the one that asked about, uh,
00:37:16
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you know your guys is biggest influence in your music and everything so cool but yeah ask how do we go from wally to pierce where where i had that happen i actually uh be honest with you glick's been my best friend since seventh grade um it's actually been my nickname since we all played football together and everything else All right. But yeah, other than that, um looks like he may have it figured out. I was just coming in to kind of fill in until he did. so hey chair Thank you.
00:37:50
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We were trying to keep going. Yeah, we were. We were trying, you know. we it's just it I run into it when I do my shows, too. I've had issues where it's just the reception and everything else, so and it happens. But Here is, well, I guess not. Yep, he's back. So okay you came on thank you again for coming up here on Glick's House of Music and so sorry about the technical difficulties.
00:38:14
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here's Here's my boy Glick back. o Thank you.
00:38:19
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Here he comes. He's clicking. Yay. There is. He's frozen or he's holding a pose. yep Either one. Oh, wait.
00:38:30
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up Maybe I'm back. I don't know. there all alright All right. All right. We'll see what happens here. so I was actually getting ready to try to get on my phone, and that wasn't even working.
00:38:44
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I had no sound on my phone. Oh, golly. I'm so sorry, guys. Thank you guys for bearing with me and being back. I was like, oh, sweet. They're going to do a little thing. And then I heard Wally. I was like, ah, Wally.
00:39:00
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Wally came through, yes. Yes, Wally. Yes. Thank you, Wally. This is really bad. like yeah we We're frozen. You're totally frozen. You're frozen again. yeah friends Wally, what a job up jump up, Wally.
00:39:24
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This is technical difficulty music.
00:39:29
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It's like when you're stuck in the elevator and the elevator is like, it's okay. We're going to make you feel better. You're going to play some happy music. So even though we're having technical difficulties, don't worry.
00:39:43
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Or it's like when you call AT&T and they put you on hold. Hey, there he is. so much better that's way better I am done dealing with this stupid laptop. I'm telling you. i think this I'm on my phone now.
00:39:56
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This is the sign. I'm on my phone now. i know This is the this is a sign that I just need to break down and go get a new laptop. but but yeah so Again, I'm so sorry, guys. Thank you for you go sticking with me, bearing with me, all that, um this usually doesn't happen.
00:40:17
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um so yeah It's our fault. It's us. yeah You guys are awesome. It makes me even more of a fan because you know there's other people out there that are just like, no fuck this douche, I'm out. but Don't go on the nonsensical network. That guy's an asshole.
Upcoming EP and Gigs
00:40:38
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I was like, this is so... This is what I deal with all the time. All the time.
00:40:44
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I promise most of the time this doesn't happen. Usually I got everything's good and I'm ready to rock and roll, but don't know what's going on tonight. It is just giving me every obstacle I possibly can.
00:40:56
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I believe you, but that's what I say every time I mess up. I was like, oh! Usually we have some little hiccups at the very beginning and then it, and then it kind of clears up and it and it's fine, but it's usually within like the first couple of minutes. So, anywho, sorry. i was over here in panic mode trying to fix everything.
00:41:17
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don't i was like, I can't even play any music. because I was trying to as and who ah but Thank you again, Wally, for jumping in and trying to ah to save me. I appreciate you, man.
00:41:36
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Now, let's see. a What's that? Okay, anyways. So before all hell was breaking loose, I was asking you guys, um you got the two songs that are, you know, you kind of, like you said, you,
00:41:54
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you've done what you can do with them. Now they're out there. Now you're letting the universe or whatever do its magic. Um, but I know VK, you and I were talking a little bit when we were first setting all this up and everything.
00:42:08
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You guys have your first EP coming out this summer. Yeah. Hey, how excited are you guys for that to be a project that's coming to completion?
00:42:20
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Very, very excited. Um, we We had hoped to move the ball along a little bit faster than it happened. So we had the first two and then we were kind of just wanting to get everything together to have, what we didn't know the exact number. it was like five or six or seven songs and we settled five.
00:42:38
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And finally we're at that point where it's getting really close. And so we're really excited to have this group of five songs out there. Yeah, we're really excited. Yes.
00:42:50
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Out there in the zeitgeist. Yes. out there in the zeitgeist. I like that. um yeah You said you got five you got five songs on there? are they like song Are they all kind of similar to the first two that are out already? do you guys get little heavier or anything like that?
00:43:11
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So um yes and no, each of the songs is different, but there's a through line. They all sound like us. And i think that's what's cool about this band because it doesn't really sound like any other band, but it somehow sounds like itself.
00:43:26
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So if we can figure out that, that strange um juggernaut, that's that's what Sapiensgar is. and I think it'll be incumbent upon the listeners to figure out what to call it.
00:43:38
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And if they like it, cool. And i'm hopefully they'll come out and see us play because I think when you see us live too, it's also going to become very real because we have a lot of energy on screen.
00:43:50
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and Yeah, that's why I was just, I was going get there here a few because that's one thing things I always like to ask. But, I mean, you know, who cares what it's classified as or, you know, as long as people like it and it's getting out there and it's hitting a the right the right ears and the and the right group and, you know, which ultimately, like, as like you guys kind of put this band together and it's just kind of,
00:44:14
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blowing up and starting to you know blow up and whatnot. um Have you had the opportunity to do a lot of gigs together or do a handful of gigs or anything like that together?
00:44:26
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ah handfuls of a handful. Yeah, so that's an accurate measurement. Yeah. And we've got no god few more coming up this summer. We'll be opening for Anvil in a few weeks. If you remember Anvil, they made a movie about them.
00:44:40
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And um so that's going to be fun. And um in October, we're in the early stages of potentially planning a short run tour. But you know, I cannot say anything else. I cannot speak further on this.
00:44:53
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Yes. and yeah Taylor said put Ohio on it. yeah We'll just take a detour to Ohio.
00:45:05
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and I'm sure we can find a place for you guys to play somewhere. We'll put asses in the seats. We will sing to all of those asses. that's yeah ah that is so That is the name of the game right there. You know, asses in the seats and ears to to, you know, hear what you're doing.
00:45:25
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That'd be really cool, though, you know, being able to go out on the road with Anvil. I mean, that's one of those bands that's been around for a little minute. And, you know, some people may know who who they are, but some people may not.
00:45:38
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But going to have a fan base that's going to be able to get introduced to. There. I lost you for a second, but you're back. You're back.
00:45:49
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There you go. Yep. Um...
00:45:56
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As far as being on stage goes, VK I can only imagine that you're a bit of ah a firecracker. Hello.
00:46:10
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Hello, hello, hello. Hello, that's the possessed laptop over there, I apologize. Oh my god, this is this is becoming a night.
00:46:25
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Anyways. and did Yeah. how we planned it all. Yeah. yeah It's
00:46:34
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haunted. But are you guys are you guys pretty high energy on stage and and a lot to take in? In a good way. In a good way. her We're such a new band. we we Literally our first show We had never played together as a band um and it still felt very natural.
00:46:54
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And so I think there's just an organic sort of dynamic that we have. But I personally do like to have a lot of energy on stage and move around and and yeah all of that. But you know there's no like coordinated moves yet or anything. No, there isn't, because I almost knocked David over three times at the last show. Yeah, we did almost kill each other accidentally a couple times.
00:47:16
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But it was fun. It was fun. that's like All the shows that we've played have been fun. And so I mean, that's kind of a yeah the thing. You don't have fun. We just have a lot of fun. you know I mean, that's at the end of the day, when you're on stage, it's like, just just give them everything. just Just bleed all over the place and drop their corpse off the stage at the end and hope they liked it, you know?
00:47:36
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So. Yeah. No, I mean, that's... And, and you know, one of the things that we talk about all the time, you know, for for fans of music going to see the concert, yeah, we we know the music. We we we listen to the music. we get to see it live.
00:47:50
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But, you know, but there's an experience that goes along with that that we look forward to. And, you know, and and you know some bands just go up there and do their songs and then just mosey off stage. And then there's others that give you that performance. And it sounds like your guys' is first performance together is a lot like how this show is going right now tonight. but Oh, there you go.
00:48:16
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Mandy says, welcome back. Welcome back. yeah Thank you. Yeah, I think it's important to put yourself in in the shoes of the audience. So for me, like whenever I go see a band, I like to see the energy.
00:48:30
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So I try to do the same as a performer. I don't like to just stand in one place. Yeah. yeah No, most of the time the crowd's not going to stand in one place either. mean if they're If they're able to move around, unless it's like, hey, come in here and sit in your seats and be on top of each other. But, you know, the band wants to be able to move or the the audience wants to be able to move around and feed off of your guys' energy as much as you guys want to feed off their energy.
00:48:57
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oh Yeah, that's very important. If you get that energy back, it just kind of feels you to yeah want to perform even better. better you know yeah i i like to harass the crowd i like to just go out into them and be like come here sing the song with me yes and that but i mean i didn't come here to be part of the performance you must sing now well if i i can tell if someone wants to sing
00:49:29
Speaker
Like if they wanna sing, then they're then I'll let them sing. i don't care if they suck, you know, like that's fine. You know, that's half the fun of it, you know. But if someone doesn't wanna sing, it's very apparent and I will not harass them, you know, that no, I wouldn't do that.
00:49:42
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Yeah, yeah. it's You wanna make sure everyone's enjoying themselves, not hiding from you. Right, exactly exactly, don't chase them around and and force them to be a part of the the part of the act.
00:49:55
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No, no, we're not into that, no. um
00:50:00
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Kayla's over here being backstage producer. She's getting your guys' stuff to cooperate with me. Well, you guys can see it in the chat. The links to their social media and stuff like that is in the chat. can't get anything.
00:50:12
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I can't get anything. ah me tonight I
00:50:21
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But the links to your guys' is social media is in the chat as well. but But yeah, but that's also part of the experience. When you as the lead singer is coming out there and you're having so much fun that that you want to have, know, you want the crowd to get involved and you want the crowd to um be having fun with you, you know. um So you can't go wrong with that. We have some...
00:50:47
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ah show by bringing the crowd up on stage and doing the car and dancing with them. As many people as they can fit on the stage, they bring up onto the stage. It's insane.
00:51:01
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Yeah, it is it's quite the experience. Right. yeah On the sides of the stage. Yeah, at the Viper Room, that would not work. At the Viper Room, like I said, i almost i almost ended David's life.
00:51:13
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Multiple times. It's like, oh God. And that was before the show. Right. not
00:51:24
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Someone said that we coordinated that. And I was like, why would coordinate that? like like It was a it was moment of abject horror that I was like, oh my God, oh my God. And then it was like, okay, we're back. Okay, yeah. just i got Well, you had your cord.
00:51:37
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You had your cord. Because usually he's cordless, but he had his cable. did right And I got stuck on it. right And when I got stuck on it, I fell. I don't like using cables. Yeah. exhibiting That's why don't have a wireless microphone because I cannot be leashed. I like i need to go do things. andison yeah to You can't cage me in. i have to be able to run.
00:52:00
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things to do. yeah But we like having fun.
00:52:04
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That's a good energy to have, though. you You guys mentioned the Viper Room. What's that like playing there? is that Is that still kind of a big deal? I know back in the day, like, that was kind of one of those, kind of like um in Nashville. Now it's the six escape me.
00:52:18
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Yeah. So nothing in in that strip, like the Sunset Strip, is what it used to Yeah. Yeah. But the Viper Room luckily is still there and it's one of my favorite rooms to play. yeah like i've I've played there a couple times and it's always- It's a good vibe. It's good, yeah. Yeah. Sounds great.
00:52:36
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The stage is, even though it's small, it's it's a good stage. So yeah, I think because it's one of the last venues left standing in that whole like strip, I think it's it's it's more special to like be able to play there. so and apple good Yeah, I mean, it's one of those venues that I would like to, you know, hopefully be able to check out one day. know, if I ever get out that far west. It is just, you I remember growing up and you here it heard all the big acts. You know, they started there or they, you know, even after some of them blew up, they went back and it's just like one
00:53:14
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struggle ah venues that you always hear about with with musicians. So I don't know if it still had that same prestige. um I don't know why that's, I'm drawing a blank on that.
00:53:28
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That nation, one on Nashville. What is it? No, the the big stage, the grand old Opry. The grand old Opry used to be like, ah it was a big deal, but now they literally let any any idiot with a guitar for me.
00:53:44
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Let me add this away yeah David's like, I'm going to book a flight to Nashville. but but It is what it used to be. You know, I mean, the the business has changed a lot and whatnot, and a lot of places have closed down. You know, I mean, years ago, when I first moved here, you could play the strip every weekend and the places would be full. And we were, we were out there playing like, you know, the House of Blues and the Cat cat Club and the freaking, oh,
00:54:16
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I was at the Knitting Factory, Knitting Factory, all those places, you know, and, you we thought we were Guns N' Roses. And then it just stopped. It all, everything closed. Like I went back and made a list and of the places I used to play regularly, at least 15 of them have closed down.
00:54:30
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So when David says it's last standing, the white room really is one of the last standing. totally It's not many, not many anymore. that's that's That's wild. and because Especially for the rock scene. It seemed like that LA area used to be so so big and so such a popular destination. and And a lot of bands got their starts there.
00:54:53
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Do you guys have any venues like that you that you you you're hoping to play one day? or any that you you're going to try to ah get your foot into the door at?
00:55:06
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I mean, you know, an ideal perfect world, I would love to be able to play a lot of the theaters here. They're they're really, LA does have a lot of, a ton of venues still. yeah But just like that like sunset strip thing is yeah gone. But venues, there are a lot of beautiful old theaters. Downtown LA has like three or four of them.
00:55:31
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And so like the Belasco is one of my favorite ones. i Got to play there once already. So i think that that's why I'm like, I would love to play there again. But any of those theaters and in in l LA that are literally old movie theaters that converted to venues, any of those would be great. like that That type and that size of venue, I think would be really perfect.
00:55:54
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Vaken, I want to play Vaken. Of course. Before I die, want to play Vaken. I don't care what I got to do. I don't care who I got to bring up. I just want to play Vaken. No, no. We're going to play better than that, David.
00:56:06
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like work I guess I wasn't dreaming big enough, but yes. You gotta think big! Back in with the pinnacle. It would, it would. I'd be pleased. Yeah, you can die happy.
00:56:20
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Yeah, yeah, seriously. yeah I like how you just squashed off. You're not allowed to go see anybody there. we have to play there. Exactly. yeah i mean good That's that's the it and I'll be all. There's no sense of what's up.
00:56:39
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Get your medal card and it can never be taken away. can never be taken away. but Even after the more slant or something. I will accept absolutely no Melissa slander. None.
00:56:52
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None. got no problem with her. Yeah, you know, whether you like her music or not, you got to give you got to give her credit because she did something that at that time, Barry, not a lot lot of ladies were doing. Not a lot of women were doing the music. So like you said, she just... Here I am.
00:57:09
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Oh.
00:57:12
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keep nice She's won an Oscar. and didn't know that. Yeah. She, yeah. Do you not fuck with Melissa? She won a BET award somehow. Oh my God. This is what I deal with. This is what I deal with. I'm starting to understand when he's fucking around. Cause sometimes when I first met him, I didn't know. would be like, Oh, is he serious right now? And it's like, no, he's not. He's not.
00:57:37
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I've never seen him. He's so dry. He's so dry. It's like the Mojave. We are in the desert. That's true.
00:57:48
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You know, the dry humors sometimes. Yep. Sometimes. and Yeah, especially if the people around you, they they get it and they understand it. You know, if if they don't know you and it you got that dry humor, then, you know, it could be ah it could be a rough night. Yeah, that's the key.
00:58:06
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That's true. If they don't know you, and you yeah, it's the key. awkward like right now well you guys are awkward allie and i the guitar player and i we were talking at one point she's like i can never tell when dave is fucking around and i'm like i know you'll get there eventually she said the one day i did i thought oh david that wasn't that was terrible i'm like right exactly i'm like he has the dad jokes a lot but she's like sometimes i'm like i'm not sure i know but yeah just
00:58:36
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I agree. We've been here since like 12 in the afternoon. His friends showed up at a venue early for the show, and they said, oh, yeah, we got here a little early. And he's like, oh, yeah, they've been here since like 3 o'clock. And I went, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. And they're like, no he's being an asshole. we have not been here that long. He again. got me again. You never know.
00:58:58
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No. He might not even be David. he could Who knows who he is right now? mean yes or Intrigued. flame beside yeah exactly he's a
00:59:14
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ah he He is a man of mystery. the You know? Yeah. don david International man. Of mystery.
00:59:25
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All right. No more dad jokes. I'm not even a dad, it doesn't make sense. Okay. That's right. I'm a dad joke that doesn't have, or dad, I'm a dad that doesn't have any dad jokes.
00:59:37
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ah So there's that. ah we bolancing You're bouncing it out. Yeah, you're, you're holding up your end of it. So yeah, yeah, yeah. the The universe is all right. It's it's all good. Um,
00:59:50
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um Sorry, I'm just now getting caught up with some of these some of these comments here. ah going to see if I can get the comments. Oh, there we go. There we go.
01:00:06
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These people look cool.
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We are always looking for people to play festivals and events. we We can play festivals and events. We can.
01:00:20
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Oh, damn it. There you go, Zanfios. If you want to come all way. I can't remember where Zanfios is. I think he's in the Midwest, too. um Do you guys... do yeah um How do you feel about what you're on board with it and and do?
01:00:43
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i with that Yeah, we just got robot, robot, robot, robot. Robot, robot.
01:00:50
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I am just music festivals. Is that something that you guys want to get on and and try to do? or Yes, we do. Yes, we do. We love you would love that. Yes. We would like to play anywhere. Thank you very much.
01:01:02
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Anywhere right now. We just want to play. We do. We just want to play. Hey, Scorpio butcher. Scorpio wood butcher. Missouri. There you go. Hello.
01:01:15
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Oh, yeah. There you go. you a heard i've never I had never been to a Speedway until I was touring with my old band and we got to a Speedway and the drummer acted like we had shown up like in the Holy Lands or something. He was so excited about the Speedway and I i was like, it's it's kind of a wah-wah.
01:01:35
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It's like a 7-Eleven. But apparently if you're a Speedway like devotee, it's really special. I don't know.
01:01:46
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So, all right, we'll come play at the Speedway. specific specific those kids who played in the subway Did you see that punk band? That was adorable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We do stuff like that. we just, we're too old. It's a young man's game.
01:02:04
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too Too old to hit the subways, huh? who Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like you have to be like a hardcore punk band or something to do that kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah.
01:02:15
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Probably.
01:02:18
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Black oval off-road pro track and drag boat track. drag boatat Wow. so that sort of speedway. Not like the convenience not the come I was thinking the convenience store speedway.
01:02:32
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ah You can play that. The drag boats. Okay. All right. See, now we've learned things. now Whether it's the gas station or a motor speedway, you guys will play it. exactly that scar will play where yeah We just want to get our music out there. We don't care where it's at. you know I mean, there's something to be gleaned from every weird place you play. like You always have a fun story then after that.
01:03:00
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yeah And I've been very fortunate that like like in my old band too, like I could have told that guy, we're playing in a port-a-potty and he would have just rolled up with his amp and been like, okay, here we go. like it's yeah like These guys are not too picky.
01:03:12
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So I like that. No, they have that same... ah
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um
01:03:25
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Oh, and no. we lost ah Are you there? We've lost him.
01:03:35
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Glick is getting glitchy again. He's frozen. so Oh my goodness. He turned into her ghost. I don't know what's happening. Now he's haunting us. Now the ghost of Glick is here.
01:03:47
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Glick's yet to come. What did you do? You dropped the pick in the hole, didn't you? Yeah. Sorry.
01:03:58
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right. Let's see if this is any better for you guys. Maybe better for me. Yep. just Well, now she's taking your toys away from you.
01:04:10
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I did drop the pick. Drop the pick in the hole. Whoops. What can you You just have to shake it and shake it and shake it. No, they never have.
01:04:20
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No, they do. yeah Or they rattle around and then you've got a maraca and a guitar at the same time. You're one-man band.
01:04:29
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There you go. yeah Is it any better in my back yet? No, you're just a weird silhouette. You look like a wrestler. It's like Goldberg is getting ready to come in the ring. That should be your new profile pic.
01:04:47
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This is it the silhouette. Oh, my stars and garters. All right, what do we got here? Who's one of your dream bands you would like to open for? Jeez.
01:05:01
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You go, because I don't know. i I'm biting my tongue. was going to be a smartass, but I'm going to stop. um Hang on. Extreme. Oh, yeah, of course.
01:05:14
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um
01:05:17
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She thinks. h Ghost. Oh, ah yeah, there's Ghost. um I mean, i already mentioned Alice in Chains is one of my favorite. So Alice in Chains, I think would be good.
01:05:31
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yeah. Something like that.
01:05:35
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I draw a blank suddenly.
01:05:39
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Nightwish.
01:05:43
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I kind of reached a point and then just was like, okay, I'm done. Yeah.
01:05:50
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The Killers, but I think we're in the wrong genre. but well that's That's my thing. I'm like think overthinking it. I'm like, well, we wouldn't really fit in with this band. yeah But you know, and they do that now. they They do these fun things where they switch you know genres. And I do love The Killers. Brandon is my favorite Mormon.
01:06:09
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Oh, now you're on a parking lot, it looks like. Now I ran away. I don't know what's going on. you sound really good. You sound great. I just walked out onto the patio. I just walked out onto the patio. I said, screw it. I'll sit out here on the patio and see if this works. have no idea.
01:06:24
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seems to be working pretty well. What is going on? So we'll we'll see. I think I got Wally hiding out backstage just in case. so um every time Every time I i go to ask you guys something, that something happens, then I get completely knocked off the rails. But um thank you, chat, for asking questions. That's ah that's awesome.
01:06:48
Speaker
but Yeah, the the the music venue or the music festivals and stuff, they're just throwing, like, bands of all different quote-unquote genres together. So, I mean, the Killers, you guys could easily be on a show with them.
01:07:01
Speaker
Yeah, I think a festival where they do mix it up, totally you could kind of fit in anywhere, but like if we were just open for like a touring band. Yeah, that'd be a different, of course a different color.
01:07:13
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, anyone where there's and an an audience, I think that's one of the key things that I feel like if we, if our music was just in front of a lot of ears, yeah that it would resonate. you And that's the hard part is getting it in front of a lot of viewers. Yes. yeah So that's what we got to do.
01:07:34
Speaker
just got to get it from you. So if anyone out there is in a band right now that is you know pulling in lots and lots of ass in the seats and you'd like to take along. Yeah. And if you have ears, you can listen to it.
01:07:47
Speaker
Yes, go to the Spotify or Bandcamp any of the other places that we are and listen to ourselves. Of course, with our luck, there's the like one person that lost their ears in a horrible accident. oh But they have technology and they can, never mind.
01:08:03
Speaker
Well, they couldn't hear us anyways right now, so they wouldn't know where to go. oh no. Yeah, sad yeah that's, oh, But yeah, we do need the ears. You know, we don't need all everything else. We just, just the ears, this just the ears. You can just hear and we'll be like, that's it.
01:08:20
Speaker
That's all you need to get the job done. yeah um
01:08:26
Speaker
With your guys's writing style and whatnot, where do you, where do you get a lot of and your inspiration to write from?
Songwriting Process and Authenticity
01:08:34
Speaker
ah yeah Looking at me. um It's very organic. um There's not a lot of planning. There's not a lot of like thought put into the writing. It's just what comes- Well, don't say that.
01:08:51
Speaker
We don't put any thought into it. We're just like- Not in that way. We're intentional when when we get right like to a certain point. We we kind of like want to make sure that the songs resonate with us and like they have to be at a certain level. But as far as like, I have hundreds of demos. I think when I first started sending VK music, it was like, here's a bunch of demos, look let's see if you like any of it.
01:09:15
Speaker
um But it's all very organic and spontaneous even, where I just sit down front of the workstation and I start playing and building the songs that way.
01:09:26
Speaker
So the inspiration comes from like the influences as far as like what I'm actually playing. ah But that like the vibe and the mood of the songs is just what I'm feeling like in the moment.
01:09:38
Speaker
So sometimes, you know like Weak as a Weapon, it's a little bit of a heavier song. And then you have Pay Forever, which is like the ballady kind of, you know. So it just comes from like a very real organic place.
01:09:52
Speaker
And then same with the vocals and the lyrics, you know? so Yeah. I mean, no. guess what i was trying to say, is sorry, is that it's not manufactured. Right. Yeah, like almost every song I've written is is either something that I've experienced or someone I know has experienced. I listen a lot, you know, and I infiltrate places and I am like, oh, tell tell tell me about that.
01:10:16
Speaker
And then don't think about it because I like to hear what other people are doing and like what's going on in their lives. And it's like, okay, that should be a song. And sometimes people have come to me like, oh my God, I feel like that song's about me. and i'm like, well, actually, but... um that they were given voice that they couldn't they didn't have so like yeah that's kind of like what the better songs do it's like anyone can you relate to it even though maybe that wasn't like vk's intention but like if someone can relate it it's a success you know yeah like going back to success like what is you know what does that mean so yeah yeah for real
01:10:54
Speaker
Oh, no, exactly. I think that's a big thing with music. I mean, they you know they say that music is good for the soul. um I mean, I think anybody could go back and say, man, I was going through this, is and this in my life, and this album or this song or this artist really kind of helped get me through because they related so much to a song or or an album or whatever the case may be. So I think it's good when people can relate to your music and kind of find that happy place or whatever.
01:11:25
Speaker
yeah i ah you know How many times does it happen if you hear a song, you can instantly be transported back to a certain time and place. It's so vivid, you can smell the smells from that that time. Even if you don't want to smell them. Good or bad. Good or bad memory, songs can do that. Totally. I think that's very telling of, you know, if you're doing something right, when people just connect to it without you maybe like writing specifically about that situation, but like they can connect with it. And yeah, I mean, I think the the good thing about at least our connection and and the band is I like the song. Like I actually like listening to them and and they come in, like they connect with me from the from a very like
01:12:21
Speaker
personal, like we wrote song type of way, but also like hearing it back, I'm like, man, it makes me feel like something too, just as a listener. So yeah. um Yeah. Like I can listen to our songs and I'm like, I'm like, while I'm doing the dishes and I'm like, is this weird?
01:12:37
Speaker
Am I genuine? Do I need therapy? Cause I'm listening to our songs and going, huh, this is a pretty good song. But i'm like, no, it's like, if if I couldn't stand to listen to our shit, well then we've got a bigger problem. Yeah. And the thing is like, we, we write at least my opinion and my feeling is I'm writing this for me, like the songs first. yeah And then if you're out there, like you hope that they connect with other people.
01:13:01
Speaker
But if you're not writing for yourself and like connecting with your own art, then what's the point almost? Yeah, exactly. What are you what are you doing? you know Because other people are going to sense that. you know that old That old saying, oh, they're phoning it in.
01:13:18
Speaker
you know there's no There's no real effort here. There's no genuine connection to the music that you're doing or anything like that. You're just... You're just trying to get earn a buck, which, i mean, we all are at the end of the day. But also, you know, you want to be focused on on the art and putting out quality content and quality music that people are going to want to eat up and come and buy the tickets and buy the merch and and everything like that.
Social Media as a Marketing Tool
01:13:44
Speaker
ah the In the world that we live in today with social media, um being the necessary evil that it is. ah yes what is that What is your guys' kind of opinion on it? I mean, it's something that you almost have to have. but and Not almost, my friend.
01:14:04
Speaker
Not almost. um Here's the thing. This is what I try to explain to the boys. of It is a marketing tool. Like, don't think of it as like a social network. Don't think of it as a toy. It's not a toy. It is the new TV. It's the new radio. It's like if we had money for a publicist, you know what they do? They take that money and go make a TikTok because that is what this is now. You don't have any social media presence. You don't have any fans.
01:14:32
Speaker
That's where we're at, unless you're a legacy act who had their music out a long time ago. So it has to happen. And somebody's going to do it. Yeah. ah someone Someone. So as important i'm I'm like running four or five different social media accounts. And some days i just wish for my own death. But and you found, you know, so many lovely fans that way. In fact, my my number one listener who has also become my friend, she found me online.
01:15:08
Speaker
Like found me online, found one of my old, old songs and really liked it. And then jumped right on to the next band. And she has followed me like a fucking champion through one, two, three, four, five bands, five bands. And I'm telling you, I could say to her, okay, girl, we're going polka right now. And she'd be like, let's go.
01:15:29
Speaker
And that would never have happened without this necessary evil. So in you can complain about it And cry. We do. I know. Or you can go get your pants and you can go get you some pants. So this is where we're at. You know, it's yeah. I know it's time consuming.
01:15:51
Speaker
i know it's soul sucking. i know all the time. Unless we've got a better plan. Quick talk dance. Quick talk dance.
01:16:03
Speaker
but or Or just don't do a tic-tic-tic. Just put the camera on you, play the music, and just look at the camera disdainfully. that That could be it. I'd be able to do that. Yes, yes, yes. yeah yeah I feel your pain, and as as does anybody that does anything with entertainment, because you know outside of...
01:16:23
Speaker
personal social media, which has completely become the ah the redheaded stepchild. It's all about the, you know, the shows and all the different platforms and everything like that. So, but it is, it it really is the world we live in. You have to do it now. If you want to, if you want to grow, if you're an entertainer of any facet, you have to use the social media.
01:16:46
Speaker
And it is one of my most dreaded and hated things that I do. i always I'm always curious um on your guys' opinions ah with the social media aspect. but I think it's harder for, you know, like the older like older generations, you know, like the younger 20-year-olds coming up. Like, it's just like that's what they oh they were born with a camera in their hands. mean, like. yeah Yeah. So for me, like, I don't like being in front of a camera in general. So then, like, having to put, you know, a lot of, like,
01:17:20
Speaker
that kind of content up, content. And that's the thing. It's like content. You need content. We need content. It's like, I just want to play the songs and write the music, but that's what we all want. And I understand. i do and intellectually understand that that's just the world that we live in. have to do the things, so it is something you just have to do. If you wanna expand and grow, that's the thing. Well, that's it. If you wanna just be obscure or make obscure music for five people and that's it, then that's okay.
01:17:56
Speaker
But if you want more than that, it's like I used to tell my old band, okay, you want a lot of things. If you want these things, we need to do these things. So help mama out here.
01:18:08
Speaker
You know, and also like, I mean, David says he doesn't like to be in front of the camera, but David's interesting. He's interesting. Oh my God. but You know, there's like five of us in this band and every single one of them is a personality.
01:18:22
Speaker
It's in their own way. And I feel like if they could, if they could kind of embrace that and be like, okay, this is my character. yeah And just go with that, we could really have something moving here. So I just got on it and you know, I don't, maybe drug them. I don't know.
01:18:39
Speaker
There you go. Drugs are always good. Nothing. thing Just keep drinking. it's It's all natural. It's good. but Nothing to worry about. ah talk it Exactly. it's Well, and I think that's something that, you know, you guys are still fairly new as a band, not artists, so to say, but as a band. And as you guys grow together and as you guys, you know, spend more time together, that those characters are going to naturally start to come out on stage, behind the camera, you know, in the in the recording studio. That's just learning to to match with each other and gel with each other and and, you know, make sure you go left when I go right and you don't kill Dave, you know, on stage. so
01:19:23
Speaker
ah But you're right, I think a lot of that has that is like just growing, like as a group people and kind of being exposed to each other and, and you know, um being more comfortable with that kind of thing.
01:19:38
Speaker
And I think it is getting better for sure. And we're learning how to do a lot of that. Yes, to his credit, David is getting way better. He's getting way better. Like he actually has been making some videos of him playing. At first he was doing that thing guitar players do where you get from the chin to the waist. I still do that. yeah Like, okay, I see the guitar, I see hands, but that could be anybody right now. Well, I've evolved to this now.
01:20:00
Speaker
Yes. i Well, he did want to look at my face. I was like, I was off my phone. I went, it's David's face. Oh my gosh. And he had hair in his face. And i was like, oh, God. Did i post that by mistake? No, was like, yeah oh.
01:20:14
Speaker
but I mean, that's anything is good, though. i mean True. i will I find myself going, I'll take it. That's what I do. yeah i yeah i I say it all the time. You never know what that one thing is that's going to fall into the right algorithm at the right time.
01:20:34
Speaker
And then next thing you know, you you got a million fans. And, you know. I posted people's likes. And I'm like, okay. All right. That's where we're going. Okay. great Yeah, you never know who's listening or who's watching. And, you know, that...
01:20:53
Speaker
It's just a matter of getting it on the right ears and the right eyes. And they're like, ooh, I got to get these guys down in Florida. You know, like, that you know, and next thing you know, you're going down to Florida. I'm sorry you're going to Florida, but there's worse places you could go. I played Vero Beach. I played a festival in Vero Beach many, many years ago, and it was interesting.
01:21:16
Speaker
Florida's a very very beautiful place. The people... A little special. but
Unexpected Social Media Opportunities
01:21:21
Speaker
by
01:21:24
Speaker
Very, very hot. yeah If you could take the people out of Florida, Florida would be perfect. but But then there'd be no one to watch us play. and Yeah, exactly. Gators. Gators. Yeah. It goes back to the ears.
01:21:36
Speaker
We need ears to be on the band. Yeah, sometimes it's goes back to the just like the ears like we need ears yeah you know yeah it's said to beyond the band and yeah sometimes it's something like that, like yeah just random, you post something and somehow reaches the right person. or I mean, honestly, even this interview, like it happened through some social media kind of yeah we triangle. So and who knows who's watching right who knows he' watching yeah who up but smart for and now? It is an alligator from Florida.
01:22:08
Speaker
I hope if anybody's watching, they're watching for you guys and they're not watching for this network because it has been a shit show on my end. You guys have been quote unquote rock stars tonight while I'm just over here like on life support. any These things could happen to anybody. good and yeah and like Technology has a mind of its own. They happen on stage all the time. You just have to keep going. and yeah yeah The show must go on. Yeah,
Community Support and Challenges
01:22:32
Speaker
exactly. Shut up, Wally.
01:22:37
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Slick the robot. That's a new character. right My new name. Yeah, well I mean, it might be time for a character change. I've been a Squatch for a while, so Glick the Glitz.
01:22:51
Speaker
yeah I have been called that before. Oh, really? Yeah. You know, it's funny, VK, you brought up the the the girl who's followed you from, ah you know, from one band to another and been around your career. You know, ah there's a there's a couple people like that that, you know, from when I was just an idiot in my garage drinking, streaming on Periscope way back when, know, Wow.
01:23:16
Speaker
i Yeah. yeah ah To being on TikTok, playing around with that, going live to to this. And even as this has grown from random ass crazy show that we do to actually content driven, there's a couple of people who've been there since day one. and ah you know I'm so appreciative for those people because it's always nice to see their faces pop up in the chat or you know even on yeah Saturday nights we open up the panel for anybody who wants to come on and hang out with us. We do a six-hour show on Saturdays. Sometimes time you see those people pop up on the panel with us and it's like, hey, click, you remember that one time? And I'm like, yeah, I'd really rather not remember that one time, but I'm glad you do.
01:23:56
Speaker
That's really cool, though, to have that kind of community built up. you know it's yeah It's really good. Yeah, women were met Women of Metal Radio, on I was on with them for five hours one night.
01:24:09
Speaker
Oh, wow. Yeah. They were like, can you stay for a while? And I said, sure. And then it just, yeah, so we drank a lot of wine and played a lot of music. Yeah, I feel like it's guys like you you know who can stay on for five hours that you know really build the community. You're like, well, here we are. We're all hanging out. so Yeah.
01:24:29
Speaker
ah this This show, and early on, um I had a band on and I was still drinking during the week back then. and we And we went, they were drinking too.
01:24:43
Speaker
And we went almost seven hours. It was like, guys, yeah gotta work I got to work in the morning. Like i ah you guys might not have to work, but I got to work.
01:24:53
Speaker
so But that's Saturday night. Yeah. We, we hang out for six hours and every topic is on
Managing Multiple Bands
01:25:01
Speaker
the board and we just hang out and you know, whoever comes up, everybody's welcome.
01:25:05
Speaker
I tell all my former guests, if you happen to see us live on a Saturday night, you ain't got nothing going on. Jump on the panel. Like let's hang out. let's Um, But ah but i think it's I think it's the other thing, you know, is community, having a good community around you.
01:25:20
Speaker
um for you guys personally, um you know, that I know a little bit about that community out there in l L.A., but for you personally, how do you feel the the music... community treats you guys or have you guys come across it. You always hear the horror stories of, oh, so-and-so would run their granny over with a bus to get ahead.
01:25:39
Speaker
ah oh But I'm learning that that's not really a thing anymore these days. that For the most part, people look out for each other. but mean but You can't do that anymore. it's it's it's First of all, it's it's completely wrongheaded. I mean, nobody is your competition.
01:25:55
Speaker
Literally nobody is your competition. um You can do you and nobody else can do you. like ah Like someone could be standing on stage singing the exact same song as me at the exact same time and we're still not each other's competition because we're totally different people. So that's dumb. But I think our community actually is pretty rad because when we played the Viper Room, we lost him. He's, guess we played the Viper Room, the community, oh, we really lost him. All right, folks, if you're still there, I'll tell my story. um Everyone came out.
01:26:26
Speaker
We had a whole fucking crazy room full of people. So, yeah, the community is good. Yeah, that's good. There he's back. Yeah. So, yeah. And there's like a there's a there's a jam culture that started near the end of covid. um It probably started before that, but that's when I got involved in it. And you meet everybody and you realize, you know, everybody's just trying to do this thing. Everybody just wants to make music at the end of the day.
01:26:49
Speaker
So, yeah, I think. competition and you know backbiting and all that stuff. that's just That's just stupid. And it's kind of childish. And most almost nobody does it anymore.
01:27:02
Speaker
I think there is a community in LA. You do see a lot of the same people at a lot of these jams. Everybody knows each other. Everybody knows each other's bands. and I know that I've seen, at least very recently, a lot of support from other musicians being like, hey, check out my friend's band, too. you know yeah So, and that's new for me, because I've never really kind of connected with that because I was so focused on like one one band and you know that was the thing.
01:27:32
Speaker
But um I've definitely seen that there is like a, I guess small, I don't know if it's big, but in LA there is a circle of musicians and music who attend each other's shows and kind of support each other. So, yeah. Yeah, yeah that's that's that's awesome. ah you know Especially, like I said, to you thank you buddy um you you hear some of the horror stories like, oh, you know, this guy stole my guitar player here or whatever.
01:28:05
Speaker
The thing everyone's in a hundred bands right now. You can't steal a guitar player. First of all, guitar players want to be stolen. They're out there, you know you know, shaking their butt in the street. Okay, they want to be. um But first of all, and second of all, you cannot steal a guitar player. um You know, we have a friend right now who's like in five bands.
01:28:24
Speaker
Yeah. Everyone's just happy to have him. You know, like it's now sometimes they do get, you know, butthurt about singers of singers, you know, go from one place to another and because they feel like, well, that's the face. That's the front person. You can't do that. um But Again, everything's workable. you know i I'm really trying to just be monogamous right now and have one band because I did go through that where I was in a bunch of bands because I was like, oh, is fun and this is fun and I've got all this energy. And then I was like, wow, I'm really tired. Oh my God. yeah I'm like, okay, this is the band. This is it. This is what we're doing.
01:29:00
Speaker
I've been a one band person. like i I think I'm ten technically in two bands right now, but one the other band literally does nothing. I think we played one show last year.
01:29:12
Speaker
Oh wow. that That was it. So like, I'm even like, am I even in the band? You know, it's just this like limbo. Am I even in it? But. Is there even a band? Am I even here? Seriously, I don't even know at this point, but.
01:29:27
Speaker
Yeah, I've always just been the type of person that like I just focus on one one thing musically. And you know this Sapiens Scar is my band, which I had never like started my band. I've always joined bands. I've always had this band and joined bands.
01:29:43
Speaker
But this is like my band. So even when I'm in someone else's band, like that's my focus. So for this, this is my focus. like you know I don't want to be in 10 bands. I don't. Sorry. like Some people love that. It's not for me. like i can't I think that's when you're young and you just feel like, well, i just want to get out there
Balancing Spontaneity and Execution
01:30:01
Speaker
and play as much as possible and all and write all this stuff. and And I did that. But now I'm like, okay, I want to really focus because I do believe in this band so much. And so I'm like, okay, what can we do?
01:30:11
Speaker
So I get a little manic. Poor David gets a lot of texts. Some days when my brain starts going, I'm like, we can do this and this and this and this. And aren't you answering me? So
01:30:20
Speaker
I'm right here. good so Sick. Oh my God. My brain gets full of ideas. That's I'm the most dangerous when I'm sick. Cause I'll, all I have, all I have time to do is think. And then I'm just like, I'm like, you know what we could do? We could do this. And then we can do that. And then, yeah, I drive people insane.
01:30:38
Speaker
Nuts. no I think I do that with my girlfriend. some time I'm undiagnosed ADHD, but I know I have it. And the one side of my brain is a thousand miles an hour, 400 different directions. And the other side trying to put out the wildfire and I get ideas and constantly. And I'm like, well, going to do this. i' want going to do that. I'm going to do this. And there's really not much thought process. I just do.
01:31:01
Speaker
and then once it's done, then I go, oh shit, this is a thing. Now I have to figure out how to make it work. Most of the shows on this network have been like that.
01:31:14
Speaker
I'm going to interview musicians. and Then I do all the logos and music, Instagram music. and Then I go, but don't have any guests. so now i got to actually Now I have to slow this part of my brain down and go,
01:31:29
Speaker
yeah let's make this work. We're all building. We're all building. We're all building. you know but I think and also, like you said, David, you know this is your band. so This is like your baby. This this this isn't just you sliding into another band or playing a gig with somebody. you so you are going to take it more serious and you want to dedicate more of your time and your energy to this specific project when it's your baby.
01:31:57
Speaker
you that Totally, totally. Yeah, that's not to say that I didn't dedicate all of my energy to like other bands and projects. That's just the way I am. Like I'm always gonna be like diligent and like, I think that's part of why people always accepted me into their bands. Cause I auditioned for all the bands that I was ever in. It was like, yeah, you're in.
01:32:20
Speaker
And so I
Team Dynamics in Songwriting
01:32:21
Speaker
think for that kind of like reputation that I built up is just like reliability and like being able to get along with people and like the plane isn't even like in the equation sometimes.
01:32:33
Speaker
you know It's just like- He's being modest. Don't listen to him. He's full of shit. People are kicking your door down is what I'm hearing, and begging you. like That is important, but it's like sometimes other things are just as important to being in a band. That's fair. you know um so and i mean Even when we started, i was like, yeah I want to have a band be in a band with people that are like this, this, and that. yeah I don't want that.
01:32:56
Speaker
you know Yes. Yes. That is true. Because like if you're in a band with a shitty person, man, life gets real hard and real long. and No, like when I met David, i was like, oh, this is a decent human being. Oh my God. He doesn't have any weird problems. And he's very stupid.
01:33:16
Speaker
I mean, he's got the dad jokes. He's very serious. He's the Raskalnikov of rock and roll. you know um mean i Yeah, this is the problem. I got to stop doing that.
01:33:28
Speaker
No. See? That's it. He nods and says no. Yeah. Smile. Smile and nod. Smile and nod. that's it he nods and says no there yeah yeah yep and meanwhile ah smile and nod smile and nod
01:33:45
Speaker
But yeah, what was the question again? The question was, I can't remember the question. but i Something about being in a band with good people. And yes, like like and also Dave and i are very similar. I mean, not with our outward disparities, um we are very, very similar.
01:34:06
Speaker
like it's It's almost creepy sometimes. We'll have the exact same thoughts and I'm like, that's weird. yeah But yeah, we're very, very similar. So it's good for writing songs. It's great for writing songs. so And also, we i we've never really had a major disagreement.
01:34:23
Speaker
well it's See, tonight it's going to degenerate into a fist fight. because see Well, she was like we don't have that like, you know, that that weird rock star ego thing where it's like, well, I went it my way and I went it my way. You know, we're not going to be like, you know, that's not going happen. Yeah. yeah we Yeah. We're pretty reasonable. Yeah. We're pretty reasonable.
01:34:46
Speaker
That's what all unreasonable people say. it but Yeah. Of the two, I'm probably the more unreasonable. and it's because I'm impatient. That's my absolute worst quality. I'm very impatient. I want things that I want to write now because I can see where something's going. So I'm like, let's go.
01:35:01
Speaker
Yeah. Wait, wait. We're still packing. Yes. Yes. as that you know I'm shoot first, ask questions later, and he's still loading the gun. going But wait, what are we doing? Let's go.
01:35:12
Speaker
let's go Yeah, I totally understand that mindset. I had that mindset, you know, same way. Like, you know,
Building a Community and Learning from Mistakes
01:35:22
Speaker
already I'm already 20 steps ahead. i can see where I want it to go and where I want it to be. So then I just jump gun.
01:35:30
Speaker
i totally get that. Well, there's there's power in just starting. There's never the right time for anything. There's never like the perfect time to do anything. So just go. yeah but That's the balance too with us is that VK is more like, we should do this, let's just do it and like let's go for it. And I'm like, i maybe I'm a little bit more hesitant normally.
01:35:52
Speaker
So it helps me kind of like, all right, let's just get things done and pushes me to kind of like a higher level of you know not being so scared.
01:36:05
Speaker
doing things like we just do it. You have something good here. Like let's, let's just get it out there. And so far it's, you know, the results are basically in the songs and that's the thing. Like, what are we, all this other stuff, like how we get to the end is like, okay, maybe we we hit some bumps here and there, but like in the end, like we're we're really happy with the results of the music and that's kind of like vocal and the intention behind everything.
01:36:33
Speaker
Well, yeah, and and in the hiccups and the the bumps in the roads and the the detours, that's all part of the journey. And that's, you know, down the road, you can look back and you have stories.
01:36:44
Speaker
You have, you know, those maybe not so good memories, maybe good memories. You know, it's it's one of those things. And that's just going to bring you guys as a band, as a collective, you know, that much more together and that much stronger as a band and as a unit.
01:37:02
Speaker
show. Yep. Yep. We're excited to kind of, in a way, to experience those things, you know. We would love to get on the road with those guys. Yes. You know, in the van or whatever. Yes, whatever. thing so Jump in a van. Dirty old van doing the Rockstar.
01:37:20
Speaker
I've been in the dirtiest van ever created. And like so anything beyond that is, is bonus. Yeah. my We've talked about it. We both love being on the road. Like a fact that some people don't like it and they're like, oh, like I, you don't, it's like, yeah. Like the dirty van or like yeah you gas stations. And I'm like, I love all of that. Like I love, I even love like loading and unloading my gear. Like who, who likes that?
01:37:49
Speaker
You know, I don't know why. Like, it's just, it's like that routine of like your coffee in the morning. Like you don't even, it's not about the coffee. It's like the thing, know? So for me, like, I, I just, that's one of the things I love about like the music thing and like being in the band.
01:38:06
Speaker
It's like, let's get out there and like yeah play shows, you know? Yes. Yeah, the very first tour I went on, I remember the guitar player said, so weird. I really thought you were going to be the one who would have problems with the the dirt and the tired and stuff. And he's like, you're like
Touring Experiences and Personal Growth
01:38:21
Speaker
a duck in water just waddling through this whole thing. And i'm like, I'm waddling? But I was like, let's fucking go.
01:38:29
Speaker
I just like it. I like you get up every morning in a different place. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. and yeah it's truth yeah
01:38:38
Speaker
Let's do it. Let's go right now. We're on the road. You guys have been doing this for all ah you know for a long time now. does this Does this almost feel like a new... I mean, obviously, it is a new experience.
01:38:50
Speaker
but But with this new band and everything, does it almost feel like brand new? you know Even though you've got all the years of experience and whatnot, does this feel like something brand new for you guys?
01:39:01
Speaker
That's my kind of, I don't know, rejuvenated and maybe put an extra spark in the fire?
01:39:08
Speaker
um In a way, yes, because it is, you know, music. I think, again, it's the music for me that makes it exciting because we're writing songs that like really resonate and like, i I'm not like, oh man, I don't really like this or you know, like because we have that and we also just know a lot of the same people yeah somehow, like just in in the industry and in the connections that we've made. Like I toured with ah my old band, We opened or played with this other band that she knows the singer of, a couple of the singers. And like, I had no idea. At that point, I didn't even know we came. yeah But we knew same people. Like I toured with them. She had toured with them.
01:39:51
Speaker
And when we started talking about it and it's like, oh, you know me, can you know this person? I'm like, what? Like, how do you know? right How do you know this person? So in that sense, it's like, it's not that new either because we we've done the touring, we have that experience, we've met a lot of the same people and we know what it's like. And every person in the band has had that experience. yeah Everybody's toured, everybody's like, you know, done the thing. So I would say for me, this feels new because i feel like this is not to get like woo woo, but I feel like this crowd of people is the most emotionally healthy group of people I've played music with. And that feels like a very positive thing.
01:40:31
Speaker
And at this stage of my life, I feel like i'm ah I've got a lot more wisdom than I had before, um a lot less propensity to do dumb shit. And so i'm I'm ready to like, you know, do this like without a lot of the bullshit of the past and like move forward and just focus on the music, focus on the band and, you know, do that. So for me, this feels like kind of a, all right, got all that out of the way, let's go.
01:40:57
Speaker
Yeah. you Got all the crazy, the bullshit, and all the unnecessary out of the way. now lot for all that. You got to do all that because otherwise don't learn anything. But, you know, now I know, you know, like Little Red Riding
New Energy in the Band
01:41:11
Speaker
Hood. I know things now. Yeah.
01:41:14
Speaker
and i guess today I think it's part of being ah an artist, you know, growing and maturing and, you know, sort of sign that's of a good artist, one that can grow and and and mature. Not only that, but also be able to look back and go, maybe that wasn't such a great idea. Let's not do that again.
01:41:31
Speaker
i think that's a big part of, of like, wanting to start the band, too, is, like, learning. i learned a lot, obviously, from my experience, and A lot of that was positive, like, oh, you learn how to be a touring musician, you learn how to be on the road, how to act, how to like deal with like tour managers. and like So all this experience of just the industry is very helpful, but I also learned what not to do. I think that's almost as important, if not more. So that's what I took from my experience. Hey, I wanted to bring that here, like, hey, look let's not do things this way. Let's see not try this.
01:42:07
Speaker
yes But you know it's it's all in the hopes of making it easier to create um and making the process as painless as possible. But, you know, there's always going to be something. We're still people and we're all like trying to figure each other out.
01:42:26
Speaker
Like I said, this group, yeah we had never like been the same room together ever, you know, before this. So it's learning each other's kind of like quirks and personalities and we're still doing that. So yeah I think, ah a little like a tour would help in kind of like establishing yeah part of it too.
01:42:49
Speaker
Well, they cram you guys in a dirty old van, make you guys spend four weeks together you're like, you're either going to come out a stronger band or you might come out with a few less members. Yeah.
01:43:05
Speaker
That's always right yeah that's it the Right. Yep. Somebody might end up in a desert in Arizona. You never know. That's happened before. Yep. Yep. That's correct.
01:43:18
Speaker
You joke, sir, but. It happens in every aspect. You know, you you think you know somebody and and then when their true colors come out, it's just like, all right, off the island. Yeah.
01:43:33
Speaker
yeah but i mean it It sounds like you guys have got to ah a really good group around you. Obviously, you you guys um you know no lack of experience, know what you're doing, know what you want with your music and your style, which is which kind of sets the tone right there.
01:43:51
Speaker
you know, this is the direction we went ahead. And, you know, in having a band, they're going to be on board with that right off the rip, or they're going to go, hmm, we'll see. We'll see what happens, which usually never ends good, but... Yeah, I think the songs that we're putting out, like that Bats and that group of songs, is sort of like, we're finding what our sound is. Yeah.
01:44:16
Speaker
But because... we feel so good about them and they all still sound like the band and we're like, none of these songs, like they're all different, but they still sound like, say yeah so I think it is like sort of establishing like a sound and like, oh, like this is what we sound like, cool. I like it. You know? um I do think we have lightning in a bottle.
01:44:35
Speaker
You can quote me. I'm an old war person. and i've seen a lot and um yes, yes. Old Grey Marion, which she used to be, but I'll tell you, I do. there is something special here i can tell from the responses i because the that because i run the social media i get all the messages i get all the messages and the first day we put up a picture that's it a picture of the band and i got like gig requests i got can you send me the songs i got like i was like what the hell then we put the song out and it was it was lunacy and i'm like okay something's going on here because i've never
01:45:11
Speaker
This makes no sense I could not have orchestrated this So yeah and it's one of those things you know When you know you know yep you know and Everything happens for a reason excuse me And everybody comes together At that right moment you know Minus all The hiccups in the past and All that stuff leads you up to that point Where you're supposed to be When you're supposed to be there Exactly Knocks open the god damn door
01:45:40
Speaker
Over the floodgates, where where's the million followers? Yeah, I mean, we, I think we both definitely feel like really strong about the music and, you know, it's <unk>s exciting to have this upcoming release finally. And yeah, we hope that enough
EP Release Anticipation
01:46:01
Speaker
ears get to listen to it. yeah And we'll go from there, but it's exciting just to put it out Do you guys have a release date yet for the EP?
01:46:13
Speaker
We were just about to talk about that. Yes, I'm going to brutalize David after we're done here. but We have a a a rough sort of like yes date. Not even date, just a rough timeline. I'm a pinning down, don't worry. i got pi and Definitely this summer, which is already started. I know. We're already here. yeah um Yeah, soon. We have we have elements that are in place and you just need to set a date and like stick to it correctly.
01:46:50
Speaker
Well, you guys said, you know and and and and I agree with you I say the same thing all the time. Don't talk about it. Be about it. Get it out there. you know as it as a new fan, um I'm definitely ready for more music.
01:47:04
Speaker
I want to see what you guys are going to do. you know This is a really cool thing about this show and and getting to meet a lot of you guys a lot of you are the musicians and stuff like that.
01:47:16
Speaker
Especially with with new artists or new bands, as a fan, I get to kind of go on this journey with you guys. I get to watch you guys you know grow and and then the new music and everything like that, which is exciting for me too, you know, and and, and other fans that are just coming on board and hopefully, you know, we'll get some more ears on you guys through this network. And yeah, we're going to play your music as long as you're okay with it.
01:47:40
Speaker
Uh, as, as much as we can, we like to integrate music into our shows and stuff like that when we can, but we're going to continue to play the music and I got the thumbs up. So suck it YouTube. When you try to copyright me, uh,
01:47:57
Speaker
Nice. um Some more water police. um But I don't i don want to, with all the hiccups and everything like that, I want i do want to get ahead go ahead and get ready to start wrapping this up. But is there anything that you guys want to but let everybody know that you got coming up? Any gigs? Obviously, we got the EP coming out at some point this summer.
01:48:18
Speaker
Yes. Yes. Yeah, we have a few
Engaging Fans and Online Presence
01:48:21
Speaker
shows coming up. um They're on our Bands in Town page, if you haven't seen that. And that also aggregates to our Spotify. You can see it there. on The list is there. And if you absolutely can't find it anywhere, send me a message and I will tell you. But yes. Yeah, follow us. We're on there, obviously, the band page, but individually, if you find us individually too, yeah um feel free to follow and send us a message. We can answer any questions. We're good with that. Yep.
01:48:48
Speaker
I love it. And they are. And, and you know, VK is very responsive. Enjoy that while lasts. Eventually that that fan follow that following is going to get so big that you're going to go, ah!
01:49:02
Speaker
I can't answer everybody. but We'll take it. now No. I thoroughly enjoyed getting to hang out with you guys, even through all the glitches.
01:49:13
Speaker
I'll throw this out there right now. You're welcome back any time. I would love to have you guys back. I would love to have a redo, you know, if if possible. That's one of the cool things is I always ah enjoy catching up with the bands and seeing, you know, few months down the road or whatever, seeing where you guys are and what's going on and, you know, what's what's what's happening. um It's always fun. What's happening? It's always fun to bring people back and catch up again. I mean, I've had several artists that have been on here three, four times, and it's really exciting.
01:49:46
Speaker
By the second time, we're just hanging out shooting the shit. Even more even more so than we were tonight. Yeah. ah We will catch. Yeah, sounds good.
01:49:57
Speaker
Yeah, make sure you guys make sure you guys follow the band, follow the members. um I've tried to tag not only the band, but VK and David and everything on our end. um So if you are...
01:50:09
Speaker
are technologically retarded, at least you can go to our page if you're following us and just just give them a click. I do want to ask you guys before we jump off here, though, it's a little cliche and it's a little dumb.
01:50:24
Speaker
I don't care. I enjoy hearing everybody's perspective. But as musicians, this is kind of a two-part thing, but as musicians, any advice for anybody that's maybe younger or aspiring to to get into the world of music?
01:50:38
Speaker
And also just ah general life advice, in you know? Yeah, ah be genuinely yourself and do things that you genuinely want to do. Don't do it because you think this is the type of thing that these people are going like or because this is going to make me popular. I think as long as you come at at things, music or life in general, from a genuine place, that's all you can do.
01:51:03
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, don't take advice from people. i rare and What worked for me might not work for you. So but listen to people's advice, but if it doesn't resonate for you, it then it's not right.
01:51:16
Speaker
Like everyone's got their own path and there's no one way to do this thing. Right. Absolutely. Everybody, anybody got their ears on, make sure you follow SapientScar. Show them some love. ah Drop a comment. Drop a like on their stuff. I mean, it's the easiest and 100% free to to support, you know, local artists, entertainer out there.
01:51:42
Speaker
You help them out in the algorithms. Go stream their music. Just put it on replay and let it play. Push speakers in the window. Drive your neighbors crazy. Do it all.
01:51:54
Speaker
um Again, guys, thank you so much for coming on here. I apologize for all the technical difficulties tonight. ae i think we I think we finally got it locked in on My neighbors probably think I'm a lunatic out here just talking to myself, but this wouldn't be the first time. Well, thanks for having us. Thank you so much. This was fun. Absolutely. You guys are more welcome to hang out. I just got to my real quick spiel, and then I'm going to hit the end button. We're going play some more of your music again to end the show, and it'll just end. But, yeah, you guys are more welcome to hang out. If not, feel free to drop down. But,
Closing Remarks and Future Plans
01:52:31
Speaker
yeah.
01:52:32
Speaker
Wally says, you guys are awesome. Thank you for being patient on with the glitches. Yes, absolutely. That means a lot. um I'm going to go fight my internet and my laptop when we get off.
01:52:48
Speaker
Cool. Thank you so much. Thank you guys so much. See you next time. Bye. Bye.
01:52:58
Speaker
Oh, man. What a show tonight. Thank you to VK. Thank you to David. My apologies. i promise you next time around, it will be better.
01:53:08
Speaker
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01:53:24
Speaker
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01:53:36
Speaker
Tune in Wally. Who do you have tomorrow night? I wrote it down, but I'm not at my desk. ah Uh, not tomorrow night, Thursday night. Uh, tune in tomorrow night. I have comedian, uh, Joseph Hoosman on with me.
01:53:49
Speaker
that's going to be a really good show. Um, Joseph, uh, Been doing comedy for a little bit But he also does comedy with a Purpose um And we'll get more into that tomorrow So tune in to Glick's Comedy Lounge Not a professional comedian I just hang out with him ah That's going to be my new tagline I just love that ah But yeah Thank you guys for watching, thank you guys for hanging out Like, share, subscribe, tell your friends about us All that fun jazz Enjoy a little Hunter Crowley Thank you Wally
01:54:24
Speaker
I wrote that down. I was like, oh, i remember that. It's Crowley. um Hunter Crowley, Thursday night on Speedway Stories, Friday night, maybe a show, maybe not a show. Saturday, nonsensical nonsense, six hours, fuckery shenanigans, off-the-wall bullshit, and then hopefully, hopefully maybe Sunday, Beyond the Veil will be back. I know Kayla and I have been talking about it, and we want to bring the show back, but...
01:54:53
Speaker
Thank you guys again for watching. Thank you guys for hanging out. I'm going to try to end this and hopefully I don't blow everything up. But again, apologies for all the glitches and all the technical issues on my end. Hopefully I'll have that fixed by tomorrow. Fingers crossed. And hopefully we don't go through it again when I have a sapient scar back.
01:55:12
Speaker
So yeah, hit these buttons and get the flock out of here.
01:55:34
Speaker
Toy, decoy, search and destroy Drive them out of their minds You can try this life, batting your eyes Use them as rocks for your climb
01:56:05
Speaker
Weak is the weapon, Failed to fool them all, You bring all the guns,
01:56:25
Speaker
It's a shame, this game, making a name All for making scene They can't see, believe, or take it from me That they're part
01:56:44
Speaker
of a scheme Weak is a weapon, franticles them all
01:57:20
Speaker
A little
01:57:43
Speaker
Weak is the weapon. You fail to fool them all. You bring all the get up. It's there.
01:58:27
Speaker
The work is the way