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Ep. 228 – Christians Who Don’t Suck w/ Comedian Jeremy Alder
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This week we’re excited to welcome back a very funny standup comedian and all-around great dude, Jeremy Alder! We touch on being a sneaky Christian kid in a conservative household, the complexities of having kids interested in church as an exvangelical, and his fantastic social media series “Christians Who Don’t Suck,” where Jeremy gives a 1 minute overview of a historic Christian figure whose worldview and actions are incongruent with the modern Western version of faith. Jeremy just released a new comedy album called “Almost A Grown Man,” which is available for purchase on Apple Music and Bandcamp, or you can stream it on Spotify. We also can’t recommend his Drybar Comedy special “Purity Pants” enough! Follow Jeremy on X (@jeremyalder), Instagram (@jeremy.alder), and Facebook (@jeremyaldercomedy), and check out his website www.jeremyalder.comfor his upcoming live dates in North Carolina and California!
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Childhood Antics and Parenting Humor
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yeah like I remember like stealing my mom's Victoria's Secret catalog. you because i checked you know and and I remember her noticing that it was missing yeah and ah like ah mentioning it at the dinner table.
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Oh, come on. yeah Yeah, she didn't point anybody out because I also had i had two brothers. so um and So, you know, she didn't point out who was, but she just said that it had gone missing. And so I made sure to – I returned it that night after after everybody went to bed. I put it back to where it was. But it was pretty pretty.
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pretty unusable at that point have say but um should have hid it under your dad's pillow is what you should have done this for machete it looks like dad's the dirty pervert of the family playing like naughty tooth fairy with your dad in a just slide that in a nickel under his pillow
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Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Growing Up
Reunion with Comedian Jeremy Alder
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Christian. I'm Sam. I'm Casey. And today we are joined once again by the hilarious Jeremy Alder.
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Jeremy, what's up Hey, what's up guys? Thanks for having me back. Yeah, dude, I was so, I was thrilled to schedule with you again because I have like, I have this what like running list of people that I feel like we've connected with that we had a great time with on the podcast that ah are always on my like have back on list and your name's been on it. So when we, for a little while and cause I mean, I don't remember the last time I forget when we had you on, but it was ah good bit ago.
00:02:05
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A year and a half ago or so. Yeah. That's so crazy. And so I'm super glad we're doing this. There is another list just so you're aware. we We do have a Nixon list. A Nixon list.
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I have a list too of ah of all the all my favorite podcasts. This is the only one. this is the only podcast I've ever listened to and the only podcast I've ever actually been on. so ah Our lists are synced up.
00:02:29
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Thank you for having me ah for the second time. yeah but Yeah, so this is great. but This is a podcast. It is a podcast. That's what we do.
00:02:41
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couple of those here and there. um How have things been going for you, man? Past year and a half. What's going on?
Jeremy's Comedy Journey and Political Satire
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Man, it's been it's been pretty good ah for me personally. um I've got this new comedy album coming out that I'm sure we'll talk about that I'm excited about.
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um I recorded that about six months ago. And um what else? i when started to go back to school. i Yeah, because comedy is going so great.
00:03:15
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You're going to comedy school, right? To learn how to be a better comedian. that Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. For sure. lot comedy You're trying to give me improv and ah Jeremy Pivens will give you a lot more than improv lessons, whether you want it or not.
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um Yeah, don't Google him.
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um Yeah, what else is going on ah Fascism, but other than that, that's pretty much it. so It's wild. We live in completely different world since last time we talked, it feels.
00:03:54
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Yeah, yeah, I guess i guess that's true. um Yeah, last time we talked, our president was dead. yeah It turns out having a dead president is better than this kind of a lifeguard.
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It turns out having a president whose eyes have to be taped open with invisible tape is actually better than... Well, know shorting legislation was like the reverse of the scene from Ghost, i like literally had a ah live person like moving his like gangrenous hand across the paper.
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There's a lot that makes me anxious ah and upset about the way things are now, but ah not to this day, it's hard to top the anxious, unsettled feeling I got every time Joe Biden gave a live speech. It was brutal. and yeah Did you see his most recent one? It's so true. no Oh no, is he still... He just, his like his first speech is leaving... We think it's him. It could have been... I was going to say it could have been dubbed, but given his slip-ups on race, it definitely is him.
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ands It's as him as it gets. Now there was clearly someone behind him with their arms through his jacket sleeves. He was very expressive, if not verbose. It was Hunter. Yeah.
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It's a lot of scratching. Yeah. Feeling around for money in the pockets. but dad Just one more, dad. Just one more. I swear this the last one.
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I get paid Friday. Dad, which pocket is the gun in? Just tell me. i get paid on friday dad which which pocket is the gun in just tell me which fuck is
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What his career now? he's still the what was he What was he last? it Was he something to Ukraine? Painter. He was an acclaimed artist.
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Did he actually have an art endeavor? Yeah. did He was doing a gallery have our endeavor yeah yeah he was he was doing like a like a gallery and I think in New York or something like that. And it did selling paintings for like, like it just a certain amount of money.
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It's just clearly like influence peddling, like everything else he does. It must be a hollow existence to literally just have every single one of your endeavors just be like an excuse for other people to get close to your dad. Yeah. Yeah.
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but Not unlike my life. ah Besides the drugs, you and Hunter actually have more in common than maybe you were aware of before you started that sentence. I should write
Tech Challenges for Parents and Kids
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him. That's how my kids feel.
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Yeah. yeah They're like, at school, they're like, my dad did i do but dad's a famous comedian. And then you get to do it all your kids' friends.
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All your friends are trying to come over Yeah. At least, dude, I think it was cool. Listen, there's going to be an opening for Secretary of Defense. And I think Hunter, he has the goods, man.
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He has the goods. I mean, goods in the gumption yeah he's got the substance abuse addiction, which is clearly important for that position. Yeah, clearly. he knows to handle a weapon.
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I think he has a more successful private texting track record too. Oh, that's true. That, that would be, those would actually be interesting texts. Those would actually be.
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Yeah. He hasn't added people inadvertently to, you know, texts where he's asked, trying to buy drugs or doing his thing. Like, He's kept at least the channels clean, um which is maybe the only thing he's kept clean. I mean, he has.
00:08:00
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As far as we know. Left an entire laptop full of incriminating data behind. Right. That's true. But he didn't add a journalist. He didn't add a journalist to the call.
00:08:11
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That whole thing... I don't know what to make of that whole thing because it seems clear that the one guy has been feeding that journalist leaks for a long time.
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I'm sure they all kind of do that, you know, where they kind of like pedal info and stuff like that. And he's just such a moron. He accidentally adds him to the chat and then has to be like, well, why was he in? Why was he in his phone?
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And i mean did you hear any of that, like the questioning around that where they're like, well, what was that journalist doing in your phone? And he's like, it must have just when somebody texts you and it just shoots, it shoots in in there.
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i mean, he's literally on Fox News taking it questions from the friendliest audience that he's ever going to have. And he's like, when no but somebody texts you and they got and there's it's in their phone and then it it pops over.
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it It was the popover.
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ba but Babe, I don't know how the number got in there. You know how it is. Babe, I swear. like Sometimes if a girl gets close, their number just pops in. It's like, air what is it Airdrop? Airdrop. Airdrop by accident. Airdrop.
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It's like the coworker that never gets the email out to you on time and they're like, oh, it was stuck in my outbox. and like And like, that's a confusing problem that no one else has. yeah I have definitely used the, I left it in drafts a couple of times in my career.
00:09:37
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Oh, that's within a bound draft. Yeah. Oh yeah. Stuck in the outbox. That one is, I mean, that one's just insane, obviously. Like I, it's just, there's nothing worse than like having to interact with someone who's clearly lying to you, but it's not really within your scope or role to like call that out. And you just have to, like, I have to let you think I have to let because if you're doing this right now, like you're the kind of person who goes home and doesn't think about it again.
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Like, yeah, you're done with it. As soon as that lie comes out, you clearly are used to lying. You're clearly not good at your job and you to uncover for yourself constantly. And I'm just going to never, ever have the same relationship with you again because of this lie.
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And it's not worth calling you out on it. no They know that sweet spot where you can't really do anything about it, but you know that they are lying. Yeah. And they kind of live in that gray area.
00:10:34
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And a lot of them don't aren't aware of the fact that like people know they're lying. They just can't prove it. You just described it. It's like having children, actually. Yeah, it's true.
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Kids who are all better at technology than you are. And so they, yeah, I mean, that my kids can tell me. i know they know more about my computer than I do. So they can they can literally tell me anything.
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One of them built my computer for me. So like he could literally tell me anything about it. I'm like, yeah, okay, that's crazy. All right. Sure, why not? He teach you how to delete the cookies.
00:11:13
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Oh, buddy, come on now. I've been deleting cookies since I was 13. That's actually not true. The internet wasn't around until I was 15 at my house. 16.
00:11:28
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We got it at 16. Yeah, yeah. We were you know homeschool kids. We were a little behind getting the technology. so What a time. Did you guys ever... Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Ah, this is weird.
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Did you guys ever pull the move where like you went to a site you weren't supposed to and you were like, you do that like panic moment where you're like, if I don' delete the history, they'll know somebody deleted the history. So I just got to bury it. I got to go to 50 random sites and like bury it in the search bar.
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Yeah. I had definitely done that. I've never done that, Casey, but this is interesting. What else do you do to cover your tracks? Well, this is, this was a while ago, but sure think I think the movie still works for any kids that are still at home.
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If you're Jeremy's kids and you're trying to hide your, ah you know, torrenting the anarchist cookbook or something like that, give that a try. the worst was ah The worst thing that ever happened to me was when, like,
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you know, you're, you're familiar with the concept of viruses or pop-up windows, but there is a, the worst thing that happened was like, I knew my mom was going to be home soon.
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And the site I was on, it just exploded with pop-ups. Like every time I, every time I closed one, 10 new ones opened. And I'm just like, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Sheer panic. Absolute panic. My heart dropped out my asshole. And I'm like, fuck. After just clicking over and over and over again, it's just like – it's browser tab whack-a-mole. It's like – You finally just go and, like, do the manual off switch and, like – So then computer's off.
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My mom pulls in, and my – like, I'm just – in like the worst, like hot flash of my life, because I know I'm like, there's that 50, 50 chance when that computer comes back on, everything's going to pop back up.
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Like, I don't know. I don't know what I did to the computer. I don't know how to compete. And I'm like, you're just kind of like, Oh, you're like head in hand. Like, yeah. Hey, okay. It's like waiting for someone to use the computer later or for you to have an opportunity to like, turn it on when no one's in the room. But my house was just all like, everyone was in the same room.
00:13:54
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Like, It was kitchen, living room, dining room mashed into one. So like there was i just didn't have a clear shot. So when my mom went to turn the computer on, it was like, I mean, existential dread.
00:14:07
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you know And you're a little Christian kid, so you're like, I deserve this. This is how it ends for me, and I deserve it. I should have called my accountability partner, and I didn't. That was what I get.
00:14:23
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Pre-accountability partner days. that's Oh, wow. du you know Pastor Terry is always willing to talk to me about my my sexual desires.
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how's pastor Terry doing? yeah
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I don't know. I don't know what his mailing address is. vitentiary but same yeah penitentiary
00:14:54
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Jeremy, when you got internet 16, that's, that's a little older to get internet. I was yeah on the younger side. So you were a little wiser, a little more mature. um that Did that guess present any challenges for you?
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ah Did you have any any lustful thoughts that you had to work through? oh yeah. Yeah, absolutely. But like yours, our computer was in kind of the kind of public area of the house. you know We didn't we had one family computer.
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and um you know there was There was no privacy. So it wasn't a whole lot of opportunity, but I did i did find some.
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you know If you're you want it bad enough, you'll you'll make the time. You asked Jeeves what boobs look like. Yeah, but you know it was crazy is like back then, because it was all like dial-up, the amount of time it took for just a photo to load.
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Yeah. Was insane. Like the sweating you did just waiting for it. No, we didn't have that kind of time. We have that kind of time. We did not have that kind of time. No, it was like, you really had to decide, is this work? Because like, I click on it and I don't know how long it's going to take.
00:16:13
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And you can't always stop it once it starts. So yeah, there was definitely some close calls. I don't think... I ever got caught ah red handed on the computer.
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But did you get caught white handed? Yeah. Hey. Hey.
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um No, never. I've still, to this day, never masturbated. so Good for you.
Parenting Jokes and Online Safety
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know. Hey, probably yeah. Hey, yeah, thank you. Big round of applause.
00:16:47
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Yeah, please. i've only Well, some people are doing it enough for all of us. so yeah ah Absolutely. Some people really want to tell you about it. I think sex is for procreation only. So I've, I've done it four times and that's enough.
00:17:03
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You know? Yeah. You got shot everything. you yeah I got everything I needed. I think I'm good. So yeah i i having kids, I think yours are your, your oldest would be older than mine.
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I believe. But, you know, as they get older, i think about the difference of how like, how I grew up and how I know my parents would have handled that because they grew up, it I mean, they it was the age of like, this was brand new, like, they grew up where You had to have someone find get you that magazine that they hid in a bucket in a hole in the ground in the woods. That's mostly how I grew up.
00:17:42
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like i mean i most yeah like I remember like stealing my mom's Victoria's Secret catalog. yeah because i checked you know and and i remember her and noticing that it was missing yeah And ah like ah mentioning it at the dinner table.
00:18:03
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Oh, come on. yeah Yeah. She didn't point anybody out because I also had, I had two brothers. So, um and so, you know, she didn't point out who was, but she just said that it had gone missing. And so i made sure to, I returned it that night after, after everybody went to bed and put it back to where it was. But it was pretty, pretty funny.
00:18:26
Speaker
Pretty unusable at that point, I have say. You should have hid it under your dad's pillow. That's what should have done. This is paper machine. It looks like dad's the dirty pervert of the family. Playing like Naughty Tooth Fairy with your dad in a Victoria's Secret.
00:18:45
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Just slide that in a nickel under his pillow. yeah ah
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but I don't know how is that it was. The it was the JCPenney ads in the newspaper. Casey knows about something about JCPenney ads. Yeah, my mom cut them out for you. That's so sweet. That's progressive mom.
00:19:14
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What a supportive woman. and Very nice of her. She was so aware of your needs.
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You really had no want. She made a little scrapbook for you. That's a collage. that's a collage it's like ah It's like a vision board full of JCPenney cutouts. I highlighted the ones I thought you'd like.
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du i don't know you're tired i know what you're into, Casey. We just thought we'd save you the work of having to sit through the ones we knew you weren't as into. I don't know what it would be like as a parent now. Like,
00:19:59
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Because it used to just be like, don't talk to strangers, you know? And and now it's like, hey, watch out for pedophiles on Roblox. Yeah. You know, it's going to be difficult to vet.
00:20:13
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Or when your child tries to search for like check boobs, whatever. Something like real simple. The first hit's just going to be incest porn.
00:20:24
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I mean, that's what our kids are going to see first. Just a car accident. That's... pretty like the the the landscape for it is concerning. And it's like, but that's what was saying. i was like, my parents kind of had that freak out mentality because it was so new. And like, and then they add all this information about how, you know, from the church, you know, about how horrific and dangerous it was before all their pastors, you know, got caught using it.
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And it's like,
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and so that's like a lot of that fear was baked in. And then, yeah you know, I grew up through that and you go, well, I'm a functioning adult. Yeah. And you can figure it. So like, I think I just, I i think about how I'm going to manage that with like, with kids and stuff. And I'm not looking forward to having to cross that bridge, but I am at, I did something I do actively think about it just to,
00:21:17
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feel like, you know, to have a plan. You gotta to have a plan. I don't, I don't expect to have a fire in my house, but I do have a ladder. I can throw out my, a rope ladder. I can throw out my window in case it comes down to it.
00:21:29
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Yeah. What's that website that like it reviews movies, uh, plugged in online for like, yeah. For like Christian parents. Focus on the families plugged in online.
00:21:40
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Yeah. We need that for like for porn. Is that still up? Yeah. oh it's yeah like a definitely up casey we should we should read through those more regularly or how exactly would that for porn work yeah let's just just filter it with reviews and kind of like get put it like on a on a scale of like really bad to bad will it is it gonna is it gonna is it i'm trying think of the way way but it's like well everybody in the video what's the scale right there's like it's inappropriate or not healthy for your growth and development as a christian but then there's like this is gonna come back to get you later with weird fetish shit you never thought you'd right yeah right and then on one end of the scale it's like they're all married so it's like kind of okay you know it's like married couples
00:22:33
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Yeah. And yeah, just I think, I mean, if we're going to, you know, if we're going to teach kids about so they're going look at porn. I mean, it's like we've got Christian rock. let's have We need a Christian porn website. Christian porn website is what I'm what I'm saying.
00:22:50
Speaker
www.christianporn.com. Yeah, that probably exists. I bet the Episcopalians would do it. yeah I'm sure we can, or the UCC or something. I'm sure we can find a denomination. yeah yeah on board The UCC, Unitarian Christian Church. Is it is that Unitarian?
00:23:10
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ah yeah Yeah. Oh, yeah. they they They'd be all about that. That's the Unitarian Universalist. The UCC is United Church of Christ. Oh, Unitarian Universalist is what think of.
00:23:22
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Because Unitarians are very sex positive. Yeah, yeah. We might be able to. They might even produce it. They might. I think you're onto something. I don't know. I think I might be. I think what's interesting about you um moving into this lane, because you're in it now, this is, you started this. So I'm, if I do it, I'm still tying your name to it. I'm sorry if you know, you have a change of heart later, but yeah this is your brainchild and I'm going to give you credit ah for someone who operates as a, as a clean comic and a
00:23:54
Speaker
you know this isn't This might not help you in that way, but it could be more lucrative. I'm not sure. We'll see. but Well, ah so I don't think I'm a clean comic.
00:24:08
Speaker
Okay. And so – But you don't – okay. Explain this to me. I thought you were kind of working in that lane, like a Bargatze type. Yeah.
00:24:19
Speaker
Yeah. That is a lot of what I do in the Dry Bar special that's completely clean. Yes. But the the the album I have coming out is a mix. hey I'm excited for this edgier side. you wear a leather jacket on stage?
00:24:37
Speaker
Yeah. I wear Richard Lewis's skin. thank You your hair.
00:24:49
Speaker
Put in a fake septum ring. Yeah. No, but I do like get into, I mean, talk about sex and talk about drugs.
00:25:00
Speaker
Guys, I talk about drugs. Whoa. right All right. I talk about, um what ah what are some other bad things?
00:25:12
Speaker
I don't know. talk about guns, you guys. Guns. Casey loves guns. Don't call them bad. Casey loves them. I do. They're bad in the wrong hands, though. That's the middle ground willing to strike.
00:25:24
Speaker
Casey's a good guy with a gun is what he's trying to say without saying. Of course he is. Of course he is.
Jeremy's Comedy Style and Marvel Movies
00:25:34
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So, no, I i i do tend tend to work clean, but i'm not it's not all clean. So I do think, like – ah If people found me through dry bar and then listen to this album, they might be a little bit surprised by some of it.
00:25:47
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. I'm not dropping F bombs and stuff, but um I do get just a little more into like just adult because we're adults. Right. So talk about stuff that happens with adults and don't treat the audience like they're children.
00:26:03
Speaker
So yeah. You know, like the, the, the far elements of both sides, really insist that people be treated like children and it's like i think we're i think we're okay i think we can handle a little little bit yeah yeah i think so um yeah that said uh if you if you do love clean comedy you will love my most of my stuff so you don't be turned off i wonder if plugged in online we'll write a review of your
00:26:35
Speaker
You're special. Album. but albums We got to call it an album. I'm just always used to saying special. And as we said before we were recording, I think it's very special. I think you're very special. Thank you.
00:26:46
Speaker
So I don't, I don't, I think it's kind of gross that we can't call things special that aren't also video. That's just my opinion. But I'm not here to shake up the whole yeah language around the comedy scene. You know, I'll get on board with that.
00:27:02
Speaker
I'll fall in line. Are you guys curious about, uh, you know, some of the, some of the, the, the raw elements of captain America, brave new world.
00:27:14
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i I really am. And I'm really interested afterwards in the spiritual elements, because that's another category that keep they keep together. So it says crude or profane language.
00:27:28
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For a Marvel superhero flick, the amount of crude and profane language in the dialogue feels fairly heavy. There are some 15 S words here and more than a dozen uses of each of the words H and D-N.
00:27:42
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In addition, we hear two or three Is S word shit or sucks? ah I don't know. I mean, maybe both. Maybe it's a blanket term. I'll even say for a PG-13 movie, I feel like 15 shits is a lot.
00:27:57
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Three uses of each of the word B-CH, A- yeah and B-TARD. That's a funny way of writing.
00:28:08
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Jesus and God's names are misused. I thought the wrong thing. Wait, B-TARD?
00:28:14
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Yeah, bastard. Oh, I i know. real Because I know what you were thinking, and it's obviously what I was thinking. You're like, people don't say that, but now I want to.
00:28:26
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quiet but ah it's Also, also what's worth noting, Sam drinks champagne in a limo and offers some to the others there. We learn that someone is taking a drug laced with gamma radiation, and that drug later turns someone into a huge red hulk.
00:28:43
Speaker
That's the message. Don't take drugs. You might turn into a raging red hulk. Maybe it's just bath salts. yeah just feeding harrison ford bath salts until he explodes oh i forgot harrison ford plays the hulk right i haven't seen it yeah it doesn't look great he's like 80 something years old now why does he play the hulk he's like the president and then he's taking a apparently he's taking like a drug laced with gamma radiation and then he gets mad and becomes a big red hulk a hulk not the hulk
00:29:23
Speaker
Yeah. So that sounds terrible. that There's a reason I haven't seen a Marvel movie in 15 years. And, um, Every time people tell me about them, I go, yeah, that seems like I don't need to bother making any changes here.
00:29:36
Speaker
I think they said that this is the most expensive movie ever made. Nuh-uh. Like with reshoots and everything, it's like closing in on, it's somewhere in the neighborhood like $400,000 or million. dollars Which movie? What is it? A new Captain America?
00:29:53
Speaker
Captain America Brave New World. It just came out like maybe a month or so ago. I'm looking the cost up right now. Oh my God. Upwards of 380 million. Oh, that's pretty close.
00:30:07
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Yeah.
00:30:09
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The production budget for Captain America Brave New World was reportedly 180 million. However, the movie's actual cost could be higher. Can you imagine i mean that ah tripling your butt? Like, oops, sorry, business daddy. Could we have more money?
00:30:27
Speaker
but this is That's like some cost or what is it sunk cost fallacy or whatever. That's what it is. It's like, dude, we're $250 million dollars into this turd.
00:30:38
Speaker
yeah to You have to take all the harsh edges off of it. But this movie is out now, right? Box office. As of right, I don't know. As of now, I don't know what the date is on this.
00:30:50
Speaker
Already the box office $414.4 million. I mean, the recoup on these movies. That's why they keep doing it. It's so annoying because I get tired of all that. Whatever. People...
00:31:03
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i I don't care if people like them. I really don't. like i get Most people are very well aware. No one goes to those movies and they're like, roll out the red carpet because this needs to win some Oscars. it's always People know what they're getting into. It's just entertainment.
00:31:19
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um So that's fine. But it is shocking to me that 20 years into the Marvel Cinematic Universe, they can essentially recreate but you can I mean, the same film, I mean, they all follow the same kind of plot lines. There's no real twists. It's all just like, bad guys are bad. You haven't even seen one in 15 years. doesn't matter. You don't have to. That's what's so great. You don't have to. And you have already.
00:31:47
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Yeah. i know it's just like and there's a meta it's following a meta in that um just re-skinning the meta is like enough to make 415 million dollars the opening weekend in the fucking box office it's crazy sam's just a snob i actually have a joke about um marvel movies in the on the new album oh yeah i compare it to being to getting remarried and now like i like being second married because it's like my My standards are higher going to in a second marriage, but my expectations are much lower.
00:32:19
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yeah' like It's like going to a it's like going to whatever new Marvel movie has come out. You're like, man, I sure hope this is better than the last one, but...
00:32:30
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i also won't be surprised if it's not.
00:32:34
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And now I know I can leave early if I have to. Only the kids are sad. So... only the kids are sad so
00:32:47
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yeah But it's not true about these movies, dude. It's it's yeah crazy. But the thing is, it's not just the movies that make the money, right? So like that $400 million or whatever, that's like all of the licensing of the pro of the toys and the Happy Meals and like all that stuff, right? So like there's with those movies, there's a thousand ways to make money yeah forever.
00:33:12
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and Every product you can think of. Every product. It's like the Winter Soldier trachea plug for kids. Also, that's a Burger King toy for sure.
00:33:24
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yeah
00:33:28
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Just to not sound elitist with my Marvel meta rant, I... that a thing you worry about now? I don't know. i I just... I don't... I just pick different re-skins of that same kind of thing, right? Like, I just watched John Wick 4, finally, and that was essentially... the exact same theories thing as three, two, and one.
00:33:58
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like They didn't expand a lot. They just built out the world more, fought different types of bad guys. John almost dies all the time. and then he somehow Time doesn't even make sense. is There's always like these countdowns.
00:34:11
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and they're like You have 60 seconds left and 15 minutes of the movie goes by and he's like showing up on time. you're like All of it completely suspends reality and that was the excitement for me. is I didn't have to pretend to think any of that mattered when i watched these movies and i was highly entertained and it's really not much different than what's going on with marvel it's just a lot more violent and i think that's what i prefer about it if you i think maybe if like the marvel movies were more uh more uh what's who's it doing the swords uh that i'm deadpool deadpool i kept wanting say daredevil more deadpool you're like oh cool like
00:34:50
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I think that's just what's appealing to me. Yeah. Because that that's not that much. You want to see more entrails. I think so. I think I like to just, yeah, I think I just prefer the PG-13 action violence just gets a little underwhelming after a while.
00:35:09
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Yeah. I think it needs more, like, a better sense of humor it would help it, too. Like Deadpool. or like Yeah. Or like Guardians of the Galaxy. You know, it's... I didn't see those.
00:35:20
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but Oh, I mean, yeah, those are funny. You're the professional though, so if you're saying it's funny, i do have to believe you. Oh, now when it comes to, I mean, I i mean, they, uh, they, uh,
00:35:35
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I mean, they're goofy, like, but but I mean, that's the thing. Like, all the Marvel movies are are pretty goofy. But, like, I think you've got to be, like, aware of that. You know, that's what I feel like Deadpool does really well.
00:35:46
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They're like, yeah, this is this is ridiculous and absurd and stupid. So let's, like, act like we know that. Yeah, it feels more self-aware. of More self-aware, which you have to be for that. Yeah.
00:35:57
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I guess you can piss off those comic book bros real easy if you don't. Oh, dude, tell the why. That is not the people they're serving, which is driving them more and more insane because it's like, oh, I don't know. I don't know what I'm talking about. I don't know. like But is that not it? No, no. I'm saying any any movie based on a comic book is like,
00:36:21
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The people who read the comics want to believe they're the target audience for this thing, and they never are. and It's driving them in insane. I just like that any particular thing that you pick, if it has like a fan base of some sort, there's a group of like middle-aged dudes with bad hygiene telling everyone else that they don't belong there.
00:36:44
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Like, I guarantee you at like a model train convention somewhere, there's like somebody, some guy with a ponytail being like, look at these, like, look at these young girls walking around in here. You think they've ever even been on a locomotive?
00:37:00
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That's, um, that's me, but with like sleep token fans now.
00:37:08
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What's this? What's, what's sleep token? Oh boy. We don't know. It's it it's a band. That's kind of a cult following. Air band. they Oh, gotcha. Okay. Yeah. They fell into like the metal category, but we're always not particularly metal in a lot of ways as well, but they were an anonymous band.
00:37:28
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They did the mask thing. um And they kind of just like, it went to like being, ah there was a they blew up very, very fast is what it was. So it was kind of a niche thing. And then now it's like, you know, think of what like what you'd think of when you,
00:37:46
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if you were going picture Slipknot concert, like, you know what the fan base kind of looks like. um Yeah. Or like bad omens or like, there's just like these bands that blow up.
00:37:57
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It attracts like a very hot topic, like crowd ah that the people who liked it first get very, very angry about. Yeah. And you're one of those guys.
Music Culture and Personal Beliefs
00:38:08
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yeah you you were with them like the fan base is ruining a band that i actually like yeah also their new single is kind of ruining it too but yeah yeah nope now that's that's that's me with christianity yeah dude let's let's shift to that good dude christians who don't suck a lot lately christians who don't suck is actually great um that was on my list of things to talk about um But I had some big feelings about Christianity this weekend due due to Easter. How did you and your family celebrate the risen, ah the the death and resurrection of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?
00:38:45
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ah Great question. um It's interesting with my family because um ah my wife ah is not a Christian. and um Oh, so that was your downward spiral. see They always told you this would happen, dude. I know.
00:39:04
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I know. and know. Um, but, uh, neither is my ex-wife. So I don't have a great track record with this. Uh, maybe that's why you got divorced. The common theme is me. Um, yeah, I, um, but my son, 15 year old, none of my kids are believers either. Uh, except for my 15 year old, um, uh, this year decided that he wanted to, uh, to get baptized and it was kind of out of the blue.
00:39:33
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um, And so i had not been going to church for ah for several years. And then actually this year just started back um going to, there's a little like 250 year old Episcopal church about a block from my house.
00:39:52
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Okay. And it's got this cool old graveyard. And that I walk through all the time ah because I just I like like cemeteries and stuff and it's just beautiful and old. And it's where like a lot of the um ah the kind of um founders of this town that I live in, kind of where they're buried.
00:40:12
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um And so the church is really cool and and really old. So anyway, I just started going there and just because it was close. And um with the the creeping fascism, I was i was feeling like um we need to be connected to people in our communities, in our neighborhoods, because we don't know where this is going to go.
00:40:34
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so um So, yeah. And then my son just kind of was like, I want to go with you. Started going with me and and got baptized. So this was his first Easter ah as a baptized Christian.
00:40:46
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and it was both of our first time kind of going through it with an Episcopal church, which is, it's a very ah kind of high church um kind of liturgy. And so all the smells and bells, um,
00:41:00
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You know, ah and man, they really do it up. I didn't realize this, but um I guess some traditions, they think, they believe Easter starts like on Holy Saturday. So they have a service at dusk on a Holy Saturday.
00:41:19
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um And that's when Easter starts for them. So ah and and then I guess some people stay up all night is a thing until Easter morning. Yeah, I don't know.
00:41:32
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We didn't do all that. um But catch the Easter bunny. Yeah. to catch him and kill him in the name of Christ, um, for stealing, him for stealing his, stealing his, uh, his valor. Yeah.
00:41:49
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yeah So anyway, no, we went to this, uh, Episcopal church service and, um, it was cool, man. I mean, they did like a whole, like the whole congregation, like, uh, well, we went to the good Friday service where we all read the, um,
00:42:03
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The story. I know you. Yeah. Well, they don't call it that in the Episcopal Church because no one reads the Bible. i don't remember what they called it. But we did like the passion story and like read it all together as a congregation playing different parts.
00:42:19
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And then on Easter morning, we read the resurrection story as a congregation, um which was. It was pretty cool, man. You know, and they're all dressed in their in their robes. And, you know, a the whole ah um church is like decked out and bright colors and flowers after being it they they turn it all black on Good Friday. Like everything gets covered up and with like in black sheets and stuff.
00:42:49
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So I don't know. It was ah it was a pretty neat experience because I grew up very low church, like storefront. Pentecostal and like independent, you know, and house churches and stuff like that. So, uh, we didn't have a whole lot of that kind of, kind of, yeah.
00:43:06
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Hocus pocus. So, um, so it was kind of cool. Uh, uh, cause it's an event. It's like a, it's a whole like theatrical presentation, but not in like, um,
00:43:19
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Not in like a mega church evangelical kind of way. a pageantry sort of way. It feels more like honest. and Yeah. if It at least feels like it has some roots. Like this goes back a ways, you know, and there's some real thought. um It wasn't just, ah you know, some some dude on chat GPT coming up with cool ideas for for Sunday. But yeah, so it was cool. so that's what we did.
00:43:45
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And, um you know, it sucks that um me and my son, um obviously, we're going to be resurrected and and live ah eternity with our Lord and Savior and the rest of our families not.
00:44:02
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And that's kind of tough to think about around Easter. So, but it just makes this time together more valuable. I feel like, you know, it does. I would also not recommend taking, you know, not now, like just kind of wait until the last minute, but I wouldn't take forced conversions off the table. It used to work really well back in like the 1600s. Yeah.
00:44:23
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So I just wouldn't. Yeah. Yeah. No, absolutely not. If it comes down to it, you know, you do what you gotta do. Catch them in like a heavy REM sleep and cracker and grape juice.
00:44:35
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Yeah, you do the you do the nacho libre and you just walk up to them with a bowl of water and just... yeah i ah Is it, was it for your, when you wanted to start up checking out this Episcopal church, was your wife just like, yeah, I guess if you want, like, is it like, was she like, that's kind of weird? I thought you were over that.
00:45:00
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and like yeah Or even your kids, were they like, I thought you were done with that. Yeah. Yeah. I think both. Yeah. Definitely. My wife, she, grew she grew up evangelical and just had a really, okay really negative experience with the church.
00:45:12
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So, um, it's a little bit, um, Like she came to when, when our son got baptized, she came and that was the first time I think she'd been in a church maybe since she was a teenager.
00:45:27
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And um it was, it was, it was hard for her. It was, it it was really hard for her. So, so yeah, it's, it's um it it is, it is weird. I mean, she's, my wife's very respectful and she wouldn't consider herself like, she's not an atheist, but yeah,
00:45:45
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Like I said, she just had such a ah negative experience with the church that it's hard to get over that. um And so ah we're we're just kind of like Sunday morning, you know, kind of doing our own thing for now.
00:46:02
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And, you know, we'll we'll see where it goes. that I don't know. You know, I'm i'm leaving... uh you know chick tracks on the bathroom counter and um i'm doing your part i get it do it i'm doing my part you know and sometimes you know i'll leave veggie tails on you know when we're going to sleep just hope it so thats how old's your youngest uh my youngest is 11. okay yeah yeah you you boom boom boom boomed them
00:46:35
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you just Yeah. Uh, the youngest, uh, yeah. So I'm, I'm stepdad to my youngest. Um, but my oldest, uh, is 23. yeah. I did. okay. Yeah. So I did 20, 23, 21, uh, 18, 15 11. Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:47
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look so for that. You look so much moisturized. ah eighteen fifteen and eleven gotcha yeah yeah he looks so young for that you look so we must moisturize Well, dude, I mean, i was I was pretty young when I started. And yeah, I do not actually have a face routine, but I am getting to the age where my Instagram feed is full of advertisements for men's face routines. And I don't think you need if you eat the placenta every time.
00:47:23
Speaker
o This is what you get, baby. This what you get. I have another on the way, so I'm going to take that advice and I'm going gobble up the whole thing. Don't eat it all at once because you're going to have to spread it out over years. I mean, I'm in my 40s now, and I'm still eating. So you got to – Oh, okay. Yeah.
00:47:43
Speaker
Well, my Instagram – of the time, the wife hogs it. It's like, oh, I need those nutrients back. i know, right? It's you're not appreciating what this took out of me, okay? I contributed to the soup.
00:47:55
Speaker
That's right. This is this daddy's little payback. I threw a couple of apples in the pot. That's right. It's hard work watching a woman give birth, honestly.
00:48:06
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And I don't think enough it's traumatic recognition goes. can't imagine. yeah It's traumatic. it's It's tough. So I think people yeah should recognize men more for having to watch that um and deal with it.
00:48:19
Speaker
Absolutely. Yeah. and My Instagram ads lately have been about ah if you're injured by a semi truck to call Morgan and Morgan. And I think that's pretty cool that I get that all the time. Wow, dude. The algorithm knows something.
00:48:34
Speaker
Watch my your pack. You would think it but would be like if your spouse was killed by a semi truck. Like how many semi-truck injuries are there? That seems like a fatality prone accident, you know? That's true. With ads like that, it's going to go up because people know that their bag is on the other end of a little ah little bump, you know?
00:48:54
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Like, oh no, And then they get like donked by it and they're like, call Morgan and Morgan. It's like, ah it's going to turn into like a better call Saul type of thing. Just toothpasteed their legs.
00:49:05
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yeah ah You need a check. Think about it.
00:49:13
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yeah Jeremy, this Easter, i was something dawned on me. And as a man who's getting was finding his way back into ah hi into a high church setting, I realized... So i'm in I'm on vacation with my wife's family.
00:49:31
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um For the most part, and I mean, basically everyone's all like very evangelical. A couple here and there that might not be, but they're not They just don't really care anymore.
00:49:44
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So I feel sometimes like I'm the odd one out here. And I realized, I don't know what it was. i Driving down here too, I saw like all these billboards.
00:49:56
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ah that new movie just came out, King of Kings. I don't know if ah you guys are familiar with King of My nephew went to that yesterday with my parents. Okay. um And just like thinking about a Jesus cartoon getting crucified, i was like, that's pretty bad.
00:50:13
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That's pretty dumb. um I don't think we need that. And I just kind of started hitting me this Easter, and it's been in it obviously a prevalent thing for quite some time, but it's like,
00:50:25
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how like cheap the whole Jesus thing feels when it's so commercialized. like i it's like I have my criticisms of ah of Islam here and there, but I think the thing that they got right is how seriously they, well, not how seriously, sometimes they take it too seriously, let's be real.
00:50:44
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ah But the but then not showing Muhammad. You're like, as a kid, i was like, that's so silly. How would we get awesome movies like Passion of the Christ if we didn't show depictions of Christ? I don't know. what some of the best There's a sweet spot somewhere between Bible Man and Al Shabab.
00:51:02
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Thank you. that's a i can always cut on Casey to to like just kind of bring my unending thoughts to a close. Thank you.
00:51:14
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But yeah, I don't know. That's just been a thing for me that really has been annoying and frustrating. I'm like, I think I might have been able to feel more connection to this if it wasn't so hijacked by like commercialism and desperate attempts to brand a figure that they equate to God that you can just capture on TV. There's no, there's just no mystery left. They spend, been made out to be every which way since like, you know, the old Jesus films in the seventies, the chosen King of Kings. It's just like, Oh my God, I feel like I might've been able to hold on to some reverence and some ah feeling of like mystery and interest and intrigue.
00:51:58
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more than if it wasn't if i didn't feel like it was being bashed over the fucking skull with it all the time right oh that's interesting yeah no that makes sense it's almost like if they would have left a little bit to to the imagination um yeah yeah huh yeah i mean i mean that's been a i guess that's been a uh a debate uh for christians going way back though about whether jesus should be depicted you know yeah we know which side lost And they were all murdered.
00:52:29
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They were all murdered. Because for some reason, for a long period of time, every part time you were wrong about something, it was actually worth being – they're like, we should now kill them, right? And everyone else was like, yeah, that's just what we're
Christianity in Modern Commerce
00:52:40
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absolutely. What else are you going to yeah Do the old Church of England scramble.
00:52:44
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No, man, I that. I don't know. that's I don't know what part of it is.
00:52:57
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i don't know. I can't decide what part of it is like off putting to me in which parts I can just deal with. You're way better dealing with it than I am at this point because there's so much of it around you.
00:53:10
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i I feel like I'm kind of torn because on the one hand, it's it's hard to like pretend that somebody is is serious about like their faith and stuff while they're like you know so supportive of just terrible things.
00:53:27
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I don't know. i don't think like and't even think like I mean, just the most like obvious blatant example, I think, is like the war in Gaza, you know, just to pretend like it's no big deal and to brush it off as like, a well, it's been going on for thousands of years, you know, I mean, that to me is like, it's absurd to to like voice support for that kind of stuff and still claim that like Christ is the most important thing in your life, you know.
00:53:57
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But then again, i i don't know. I almost like i almost these days have like a sort of a respect for people who just like have it in the background.
00:54:08
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ah more you know like that's a choice I wasn't expecting it's like a you know a background track and rather than like something they're constantly like I almost have more respect for people who are just like you know uh glory to God shout out to him on with my business you know than people who are like studying apologetics and trying to like argue their way into like conversions and things I mean it's one is certainly more annoying to me than the other
00:54:41
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Interesting. I, man, I feel like I'm the i that complete, no, not the opposite because people who study apologetics really, that's i I usually draw like a real like hard line on concentration camps and I don't like the general trajectory that this country's going, but sometimes I do think that we do need a little island just for people who do apologetics to just like, ah just to argue with each other.
00:55:09
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Drop an atheist in there every once in a while. what are those um What's that YouTube show where like a ah professional in their field debates 20 lay people who just like berate them with questions? Have you guys seen that?
00:55:21
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Oh, yeah. what you're talking about. No, it sounds terrible. Yeah, no, it is terrible. I have never watched it because the idea of it gives me anxiety. um But like that, like, I think that's all those people need. they Those people just need someone to argue with and they have all of their needs met. Like that's their love language. That's their, that's their bread and butter. That's all they need. to so So if you were just to put them all on an island and throw like a, like a, you know, a pallet of swords in the middle and said, last one alive is right. Yeah.
00:55:54
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I feel like they someone would definitely take, take up arms, but I feel like you just sprinkle in some atheists here and there. Like, it's like basically just the Island version of Reddit.
00:56:05
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um Right. There's like the debate a Christian channel on Reddit, which is a nightmare. Don't look at it if unless you want to like consider ending your life. But it' it's just like the most, the it's just the all the arguments you heard growing up. You're if God's so good that, and like, oh, holy shit, I can't believe i'm about to read this eight paragraph book.
00:56:29
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thing that's going to say nothing except for infuriate me. and But you just drop a few of those into the island and occasionally, because like it's kind of like... You just occasionally like plant a convert, right?
00:56:45
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That's all you give them... Just to give them some motivation. Keep them going. It's like carrot dangle, right? You don't want to give them too many converts because then they get too proud of themselves and they might escape the island and and bring their message to the rest of the world. Might start having sex with their congregants' wives.
00:57:03
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Exactly. so i know' This could be a good reality show. Christian Island. ah We can workshop titles later, maybe. Yeah. It's like, ah what what was the one with the Was it MILF Manor or something like that where it's like everybody's horny mom is there?
00:57:23
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i think ah so. I guess, you know, I say that I don't really hear people talking about apologetics that much. Here's here's what I mean. OK, because this is, I think, one of those examples of something that like made my like gave me a little burning sensation on the back of my neck is I was at a like a big conference thing the other day and there was a guy who was supposed to give a presentation on like his tactics for training people to sell this certain stuff, you know, and that to me sounds great. I want to hear that, you know, ah maybe you learn something.
00:58:04
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So I go to this, then I know that this guy's pretty, he's pretty in the weeds religiously. I mean, he's a, um've I've heard the word cult thrown around a little bit.
00:58:15
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I don't know that to be true. Seems like a nice guy. Probably shouldn't say that. But so we go, I go and sit through his like conference thing and he immediately starts it off with a Bible verse.
00:58:28
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And I'm like, oh God, okay, here we go. Like, we're um all right, let's get to the meat. Just show me some tactics here that you use and stuff. And it was all just like this big emotional touchy feely thing and about, you know, like turning all this crap into like serving others for Christ and how, you know this is how he puts God first in his work and this and that and the other. And it was just so annoying.
00:58:54
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Nice. Like to me, i like I really i think I just I hate that more than somebody who's just like, like shout out to God anyways, back to NASCAR.
00:59:07
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Yeah, I actually do hear that. I feel that. Yeah. Like, just be honest. Like, you've got a product. You want to make money with it. That's fine. Like, yeah. Do it. Like, why is it? Why do we have to tie this back to like, that's how I honor and serve God? No, that's, that's how you make a living. And there's literally nothing wrong with that.
00:59:26
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Like, right. As long as you're not swindling people, like we're cool. Like make, make your bag, dude. That's, that's a good thing. It's just like decades and decades of like, do all things to the glory of Christ. And it's like, yeah, maybe that doesn't mean like finding Christ in like selling a bottle of juice, right? Maybe that's just like, hey, do do business in a way that's ethical, you know, treat your customers and their customers with respect, you know, be honest with people like that. That to me seems like that would be a good way to
01:00:02
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live out your faith in like something that really doesn't have much to do with God or your faith. But like, hey, I conduct myself the same way here as I do at church and at home and everything like that. Like that to me would be living out that principle.
01:00:17
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Not I'm going to I'm going to read some Bible verses that explain why we have to sell 30 of these today to the next 12 people who walk in. Right.
01:00:28
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Right. Yeah. i like Yeah. or like I mean, these these Christian business guys are never like, um yeah. And so like because we're all believers, um we've decided that we're all going to share the profits in common with one another. And no one's going to make more than, you know, everyone's going to get, ah their salary is going to be based on what they need, not on what, you know, they need.
01:00:56
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uh, you know, their relation to me or their status in the company. Like it's nothing like truly interesting or new or unusual. It's just like, it's just Dave Ramsey. It's just Dave, Dave Ramsey with, yeah, with a little bit of a Jesus on it.
01:01:11
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A few less houses, you know? Right. Well, he's managing God's houses. So yeah, and that's right. I forgot. They, he doesn't own them and that's how, that's right. They're not his portfolio. There are many mansions.
01:01:24
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yeah because that was our a place for himself yeah that was hilarious that uh he was getting so uptight about those questions too he's the biggest fucking tightwad of all time anyway like he's he's one he's yet one scream away from having a full-blown aneurysm dude can you imagine what kind of a tipper he must be oh my god he's the one that writes he's one that writes you should have come by more Work harder, zero, and then just like leaves. the
01:01:56
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He probably leaves like Ramsey bucks, right? That she can like bring and redeem at his company in some way or form or fashion, but not for any product. The Ramsey bucks that will educate her on how to make more money.
01:02:09
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And that is the most valuable tip of all is how to maximize your gains. Okay. Dude, you're good at this. That was bad off the fly.
01:02:22
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ah that wasn't not off to fly um
01:02:31
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Oh, man. The spirit of Ramsey overtook Sam for a minute. It did.
01:02:37
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Back to Christians who don't suck. You started doing this, and i dude, I love it because ah despite the gripes that I just shared – um you know um I might be on the fence for a while on Christianity. I don't know. i yeah know but i yeah There's things I do that still stick with me and um you know the mystery that is devoid from evangelicalism now that I still really appreciate. um There's so much about this story and then i that really still sticks with me even though like culturally speaking it's hard to identify with it.
01:03:16
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And even like I realize how triggered I am by dumb shit that doesn't matter anymore. Like by one of the people in the family put on like their their evangelical church service. It's kind of a mega churchy thing, but they put it on on Easter Sunday and I'm like,
01:03:31
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it's the like that typical worship band thing going on in the background. And I'm like, I can't even hear this anymore without feeling like, like in my chest. I'm like, I hate, i'm so I'm like actively bothered by it.
01:03:44
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And I don't like that. Like, that's my problem that I have to fucking figure out to work through now. Yeah. Because I should just be able to sit and eat dinner and be like, yeah, this is their thing. It doesn't have to be my thing. I can have problems with it. We could have conversations about my problems with it.
01:03:59
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But like, There's nothing wrong with the... I think other than... I mean, I don't think it's great, but this there's legitimately nothing wrong with listening to that music and getting something out of it. So that I know that that's on me and I hate that bothers me.
01:04:14
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But either way, ah like you you started this Christians Who Don't Suck thing on Instagram and it's been doing... I see like it' a lot of reactions, I feel like, and interactions. And um I feel like people are just... I feel like...
01:04:29
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There's such a need for those conversations. And I think you do it in such a like, you know, and with with your tone and comedic fashion, but in a very it's also serious and you're being honest and sharing good information. So I really like what you're doing. So what made you start doing that?
01:04:48
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What goes into each post for you there? um Thanks, man. Yeah. um I mean, I think I started doing it because I was just um I was angry.
01:04:59
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And, uh, you know, with the but the second Trump administration, just um just feeling like, ah you know, this is my people's fault.
01:05:14
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Like, white evangelicals, we did this again. And when I say my people, I don't identify as an evangelical anymore. But these are the people that raised me, that gave me life, that, like, made my life possible and shaped, you know, um how I...
01:05:32
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thought and the music I listened to and everything, you know, up until I left the house. And so it's in me. And, um, it just, uh, I was just so angry and, ah and I wanted to, it was just eating me up. And I was like, I, I could do something about like, here's all the Christians that suck and here's why, but like, that's obvious.
01:05:56
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Um, And because they're i mean, they're in the news every day. And so I was like, how can i you know, do something positive and just put a little bit of I don't know, just ah tell a different story about because part of it is like, you know, with with Jesus, like I'm on the fence with Christianity, too. And um it just kind of depends on the day.
01:06:22
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But when people start like I don't know. i feel like manipulating um the figure of Jesus in the way that the MAGA people do.
01:06:34
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it just, it's like someone talking shit about your mom, you know, even if you don't really have a great relationship with your mom anymore, it's like, now hold on. Like that's my fucking mom. Like that's what's going. So it just made me angry. I was like, I gotta tell some other stories because there's other ways of doing this whole,
01:06:55
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Christianity thing that are actually good for the world and good for people. And you don't hear those stories because those people aren't in power. Those people ah are, well, you know, most of them dead.
01:07:09
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um So ah how do I, you know, get these stories? And I just know, um i know a lot of their stories just from growing up um in the church and um kind of spending time in the kind of radical lefty Christian ah sphere.
Progressive Faith and Social Media
01:07:27
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And people don't, I mean, most people don't even know, yeah, there's a radical left tradition in Christianity. There's, you know, um Christian socialists that are, you know, all over the world and they just don't have the the channels, the money to like be, you know, better known. And so,
01:07:50
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I just started highlighting. i started with doing just one video about Dorothy Day, the woman who who founded the Catholic movement. And she's been kind of a, someone I've looked up to for a long time.
01:08:03
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And I really didn't expect it to do much. But yeah, but For read of whatever reason, that one took off almost immediately. And I was like, OK, maybe there's something something here. So, um yeah. So I just kind of basically was like, I'm just going to pick Christians who are obviously not fascists and just highlight them and talk about them in one minute.
01:08:28
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That's my limit is I limit myself to to one minute or less and just give a quick overview. And I think I did Mr. Rogers and yeah I did um Dolly Parton and Oscar Romero.
01:08:44
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And so it's it's it's ah it's quite a range of people, um but they all have in common just like, ah you know, a real attempt ah at living Christ-like lives um and um not chasing power and and money or um or using you know using Christianity as a way to um advance other interests, you know, um, one on one of my favorites is, uh, Dorothy Soule, who was a German theologian and activist. And she coined this term Christ Christofascism, um, which is my new favorite word because, um, uh, I think it describes exactly what we're dealing with now in the United States. And she grew up in Nazi Germany. And so she, she used it as a way of naming the church in Nazi Germany. And,
01:09:44
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um I think that's exactly what we're dealing with is a bunch of Christofascists that are running our government and and it sucks. It's so bad. And so, yeah, making these little videos is really a way for me to just vent and and not just, you know,
01:10:04
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I don't know, just drink myself to death, I guess. Yeah. I think part of what's cool about it is that, you know, growing up and I've said it a million times on here, i but I just didn't know that there was these like divisions and different sects and stuff like that within Christianity. And, you know, like I told told Sam before, like I didn't know that there was Christians who didn't believe in hell.
01:10:32
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you know, it's pretty widely accepted idea. you know, it just is totally foreign and blocked out from like right the strand of evangelicalism I grew up in.
01:10:44
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i think that like part of the problem we have right now is that you know, and maybe starting with like the moral majority and stuff back in the day, but like, it's been so like co-opted and, and cannibalized as ah as a tool for like political power that I just don't, I think it's like, it's, it's got to be very difficult for people to separate, you know, like their, their, their church and stuff like that from that wing of it.
01:11:16
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And, I don't know. it Like, dude, it is it is scary, like some of the people that are in office right now. Because, I mean, I think there's there's definitely, like, there's probably a majority of them that Christianity is just a tool that they use to to sway influence and and, you know, garner support and stuff like that. But...
01:11:37
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We had some real diehards in there now. And yeah, like I'm convinced JD Vance is like convinced himself of his set of beliefs is as Christian as they come.
01:11:48
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Like, I don't feel like it's an act with him. There are some true believers in there. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Did you go the house? ah Mike, whatever his name is. he's Oh yeah. He's a whack job.
01:11:58
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I think he's a true believer. Like, like Mike Pence was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, which is so killed the Pope this weekend, too, which is crazy.
01:12:11
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but Right now he's now he's a Protestant hero. i du He just looked into his winged liner eyes and was like, you Diablo.
01:12:24
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who
01:12:30
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Oh man, guys, I got to plug in and I got to find my cord. I'm about to die Let's press pause for a second. Okay.
01:12:39
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Something that I learned today, joining the the the brain trust at the top of our our country's capital, um Mark Levin will be joining the the National Security Advisory Council.
01:12:55
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That is so nuts. At the risk of sounding like an idiot, I need a quick refresher on who Mark Levin is. He's a radio guy?
01:13:07
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Yeah, he's like ah he's been around like as long as like Rush Limbaugh. okay He has a real high-pitched, nasally voice. Great. likes He goes on little tirades on his show where he's like...
01:13:22
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Get him out of here. Get him off my phone, you jerk. sounds like the That sounds like the flip from Home Alone. but the You get the count of three before they get your yeah know whatever. Yeah, he sounds like that played at like 1.15.
01:13:41
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yeah but I mean, wasn't the wasn't our Secretary of Defense a Fox News host? Yeah, Hegseth. That is so insane. yeah like He practiced alcoholism in ah in a role at Fox News before doing it at the Pentagon.
01:14:00
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all of these picks are unbelievable. It's just it's you can't think about it for too long. Like now, because Trump thinks like a casting director for his kind of throwback fantasy of like a night than what he thinks the nineteen fifty s like federal government was when it was just strong white men.
01:14:23
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And he does look for like these types. And he'll comment on them. Like he's, he's, you know, he's, he's straight out of the, the, you know, straight out of the book. Exactly what it would look like. You call them beautiful anymore. You can't do it.
01:14:39
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He just, he finds people with it. Like, I think his, the thing that he respects most about a lot of these people, well, like one is you have to be like up his butt all the time. Yeah.
01:14:50
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But two is like, if you have a fan base, you're automatically up the chain higher than Other possible candidates like yeah somebody from like you hire a Hegseth who's like a Fox News contributor or talk show host or whatever he was like, he has a dedicated position.
01:15:07
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fan base of some sort now they're all corpses but like they do exist that's funny so it's like it's he's like a comedy booker he's like i want to see how many followers you have how many tickets can you sell before i bring you on board let's do you think like hired an indian bot farm to like pump his numbers this is how this is like big big numbers but you look at his comments section and it's all like one word replies it's obviously russians you know dude i'll slap that old drunk on the shoulder if he just keeps us out of a war with iran that's that's like my top concern yeah that's not looking great these days no well
01:15:56
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I was watching some stuff about it today and like, apparently, don't know where the, the like leaks came from or whatever it was, but they said that Hegseth, uh, Tulsi Gabbard, um, JD Vance, and one other high ranking person in the, in the cabinet all said that They all opposed strikes on Iran and said that they didn't think it was in America's best interest and that it would pull us further into a war.
01:16:25
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And I don't know who's on the other side now. You know, like if all of those people are against it, then like who's on the I mean, I kind of know who's on the other side, I guess.
01:16:38
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But I guess the only person who trumps all those people is Netanyahu. Yeah, he has the say in all of them combined, plus one to break any ties. Yeah, Trump's never pulled his chair out for him and scooted him towards the table or anything. know, it's crazy. i there's ah There's a megachurch pastor in San Antonio named John Hagee.
01:17:04
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Oh, yeah. ah He so my grandparents were a big part of his church. And I briefly went to his church has a school. And I briefly went there the one semester I wasn't homeschooled. I went to his school and ended up taking his his niece who lived with him at the time to the prom.
01:17:26
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Oh, I remember this. He had me to his house for dinner first because he wanted to meet me Oh, wow. first That's right. and Yeah. he lived in like He lives in like this gated community on a hill called – it's called the Dominion. Dude.
01:17:46
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It's where like all the San Antonio Spurs players lived and were a bunch of country music stars and stuff. Anyway, huge mansion. but Anyway, he's he's ah he's a huge Zionist and he's like personal friends with Netanyahu.
01:18:02
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Netanyahu has come and visited and spoken at the church like multiple times. It's crazy. Yeah, like his...
01:18:13
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It's something like um want to say either either Hagee's kids babysit or babysat like Netanyahu's kids or vice versa. Like there is like they're just like really close, like they go on like vacations together and stuff.
01:18:30
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That's gross, but also not shocking. Yeah. Because he he was like he was like the number one like end times Zionist guy. like His whole thing is like all of this stuff has to happen in in in through and with Israel in order for Christ to come back. like Exactly. Haiti is huge on promoting and building the popularity for that set of beliefs.
01:18:56
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, which is weird that, like, you know, it just... it's it's His relationship to Netanyahu and to Israel, it's purely instrumental. Netanyahu's got to know that, but um i guess it just doesn't doesn't care. like as long as they and They share, I guess, the same short-term goals.
01:19:18
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you know so you know and You don't think that John Hagee is concerned about the authenticity of Netanyahu's romantic advances? That's
01:19:28
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going to say this. I'm like, I don't think Hagee really actually – I think he's so ah as such a boner for Zionism that he really can't imagine a world where any any enemy of Israel is truly against Christ.
01:19:43
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as i think he that's I think that's how he frames it all in his brain. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how that man thinks. Yeah. Anymore. But I mean, and also now it's like, he's made so much money off this shtick.
01:19:59
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Yeah. It makes it hard. to so It makes it even harder to separate. Right. 100%. Yeah. cost fallacy. Yeah. Yeah. think about this the sunken cost fallacy for yeah There's no shortage of all that slop if that's really what you want to find. you know If that's what you want to hear and that's what you want to believe, like there's just ah i mean secular and Christian authors everywhere. you know i mean like What Douglas Murray got humiliated on Rogan's show last week, but his new book is called ah Democracies and Death Cults, Israel and the Future of Civilization.
01:20:38
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and It's all basically about... i probably paraphrasing, but how we need to firebomb Arabs out of the Middle East completely so that greater Israel can...
01:20:49
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whatever i don't think he's waiting for jesus to come back he's just a lunatic on the payroll sure guy well you know what i'm it's nice to see a lunatic who's just one for lunatic lunacy's sake you know versus having to make it revolve around a religion it's refreshing to not have religious angle on your it's like a cold drink of water on a hot day yeah I hear that.
01:21:16
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Yeah. Respect. That's that, that is my version of you appreciating the guy who just goes, yeah, praise Jesus. Amen. Back to business. That's version of back to business.
01:21:30
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Here we go, Douglas.
01:21:35
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ah Speaking of a sunk cost fallacy and just being so in the weeds with it. Um, you have ah you but You have a new album coming out.
01:21:47
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Jeez. Yeah, man. I'm never recouping the costs. a Not with the level of promotion I'm i'm doing now. and Yeah, I do. I have a new album coming out this Friday. Well, I don't know when this comes out, but April 25th. It'll be available on all the streaming platforms, Spotify, Apple Music, Bandcamp, and And should be on Sirius rotation, Sirius XM.
Comedy on Sirius XM and Streaming Platforms
01:22:15
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Oh, that's awesome. Soon, yeah. um They liked it, so hopefully that's going to happen soon. still don't know how Sirius XM actually works, which is kind of sad.
01:22:27
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It's like cable TV for the radio. Okay. Just pay a subscription, and there's a bunch of channels. And there's actually like, I don't even, there's like 10 comedy channels. no It's like the radio, but more radio. like Yeah, just it's satellite radio. okay It's more like, i mean, there's like 500 channels for anything you want.
01:22:44
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You know, ah comedy, music, news, sports, whatever. so There's a few comedy channels on there, isn't there? does There's a ton. Yeah. I think there's like 10 channels now ah dedicated to stand up.
01:22:58
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So there's like all female comics. There's like an all clean comedy channel. There's an all like classic old school comedy channel. Netflix has a channel. So there's a bunch.
01:23:09
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Yeah. yeah Yeah. They'll have great fills too. Like but you're listening to the dog house. Oh, you're home for raunchy comedy.
01:23:21
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This ain't your mom's jokes. I like those. yeah ah so i like those It's like fills are so funny on Sirius X. I don't hear it very often and then I'll just walk you into like a ah ah shop and like a technician will be listening to it you know and it's like, you're listening to lithium, nothing but metal.
01:23:47
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another hour of uninterrupted hard rock
01:23:55
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so you listen to my goofy comedy album in between the ridiculous sound effects uh on Sirius XM and um yeah and uh I'd uh I highly recommend that you you check it out. It's coming out through this label called Blonde Medicine that if you're a fan of standup comedy, um check out BlondeMedicine.com. You can also listen to part of the album there now before it's released.
01:24:22
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And they've got a bunch of really great comics that I feel like are... You know, deserve deserve to be ah better known. And so if you're a stand-up comedy fan, should check them out. They do a great job of um just finding um people that, you know, ah you're not going to see on Netflix or or on Joe Rogan, but actually are pretty good. Well, it turns out there's actually a lot of people on Joe Rogan I don't want to see on Joe Rogan. Yeah.
01:24:49
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ah I have a this is maybe a dumb question for someone in your, uh, in where, yeah, whatever. Uh, is this going to be demeaning?
01:25:00
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No, it's not. I don't think, I don't think. Patronizing. it's not the intent I'm just genuinely curious but now you've got me nervous I don't know fine no more questions no more questions i just say it we can sometimes you go for the laugh and maybe it steps a little far away but that's ah this isn't for a joke uh I when you're trying like when you make an album or like we live in like a a world of like, you know, new specials coming out constantly.
01:25:32
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And like when you're like thinking about album versus like, like audio versus like video format, like what weighs into that decision of which direction to go in? Well, cost is one, like it's, it's much cheaper to record audio. And um for, ah for a comedian at my level where I'm not going to get a Netflix special or an HBO special,
01:25:58
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Your best chance at making um some regular money is to get on Sirius XM, actually. OK. Yeah. So if you can get your album, you can get tracks played on a regular basis, you know, you make residuals from that.
01:26:14
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um and so that's um that's why i decided to do the album uh with the intent of like getting it on serious xm oh cool yeah yeah um and so and that's what this uh blonde medicine that's kind of what they specialize on is is helping comics get on serious xm so i scrolled with left side case yeah that yes okay is i was good is that fine okay
01:26:41
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I scrolled through some of Blonde Medicine's like Instagram today and just caught like a few of their few comics that they post. And it's yeah it's all like solid solid ah comedians and you know funny clips and stuff like that. It seems like they've kind of got their ducks in a row on who they're promoting and stuff.
01:27:00
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Yeah, they've got a great little great little thing going. um and And like I said, they don't really do any, I mean, they're pretty much only comedy and and they only do like audio recordings. They don't release like ah specials. um ah with video. And it's like, it's a pretty cool business model, the way they explained it to me. I had no idea that this was ah that this was a thing.
01:27:28
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um But um there's quite a few artists. I mean, I think music too. There's musicians that might not get played on mainstream radio, but can get on one of these niche Sirius XM channels and get regular plays and actually make, you know, make a little money off of it. And so um And I got into comedy for the money. So I'm i'm yeah down to like whatever whatever I need to do to get another passive income stream. I'm about passive income streams. and and And they said they could do it. So that's what we're doing.
01:28:09
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I had one of those. please They can't tap my vein anymore at the plasma clinic. It's collapsed. Yeah.
01:28:18
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Too much scar tissue buildup. Yeah. It's not entirely untrue.
01:28:26
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But yeah, if you want, you can also just like play my album on repeat on Spotify with the volume off and um I will make several pennies a month off of that.
01:28:40
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ah So it's another way you can help out. Or I'm guessing a lot of the, I see most of your clips are as reels, but I'm guessing you have a ah YouTube channel as well.
01:28:54
Speaker
There is a YouTube channel. There's not a lot happening. There's more happening on Instagram. Okay. But I do have a YouTube channel and ah I do plan on building it up.
01:29:07
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So there are some clips on there now though, that some longer clips that you won't see on Instagram and stuff. so I'm told that that's where our future money lies is in YouTube.
01:29:19
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It's sitting there just waiting for the taking. If we could just... I don't think there's any future money. No, no, I know. i'm just I think this is ah this is a this is a passion project.
01:29:38
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So
Satire on 'Woke' Culture and Comedy Platforms
01:29:39
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I guess the real question that I have about your about your album, do you really, okay, do you stick it to the woke? Because that's kind kind of what I'm into these days. I like to hear people like,
01:29:52
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really give it to the woke the woke mind virus and twist it, you know? Purple NERPL that thing. du apps Absolutely, dude. i mean, it's... My album is basically like um a Reddit thread that is... Yeah. I mean, it's just like... Basically, it's a Kill Tony audition.
01:30:14
Speaker
it's like That's it. Yep. Yep. If Elon Musk actually got to do Kill Tony, that's... It's would describe my album. um Yeah, it's perfect. Now im even more excited.
01:30:28
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Couldn't you see him putting his name in the bucket? Hell yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely do it. And then if you guys watch the Kill Tony Netflix. Yeah. No, yes I don't, I don't really, i don't love Kill Tony. Like I've watched it here and there, but it's not, I don't know. It's just something about the format. It's, it's like very abrasive.
01:30:48
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and There's a lot I don't like about it. But that was put on, on our vacation here. And it, there was a lot of rough moments, but I don't remember what the com, the comedians, I don't remember which comedian does Elon Musk on it, but,
01:31:05
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It's painfully accurate, like the mannerisms and movements that try to be funny. The last. Oh, that's right. Like on the panel. Yeah. elon Elon Musk is on the panel and it's a comic just not it doesn't, you know, only looks like him to a degree, but he kills the mannerisms.
01:31:23
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Kyle Dennegan is pretty good eye on him, like his deep fake videos and stuff like that. Oh man. So that was like, the I watched maybe the first half before we all just went to bed, but that was but the really one of the best parts of it was just how much he nailed the cringe. Like I'm trying to be funny all the time aspect of Elon.
01:31:46
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It was really good. I might watch it just for that. i thought it was interesting that they didn't, they didn't tell the comics. that that show was being filmed for Netflix.
01:31:57
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I think they knew when they came out. and Until they came out. That's right. But like when they put their name in the bucket that day, they didn't know that. There was one dude who just bombed so hard. And is you wonder what part of it is like, is it because like,
01:32:13
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Like his delivery was shake. Everything was shaky. I'm like, did he, did it just set in that he was going to be on Netflix and like it ruined him? Cause he said he'd been doing comedy for like five years. And I'm like, it was painful. that There's a lot of bomb on there a lot.
01:32:29
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It's bad. It is that's why it's hard to see how people react to it too. Cause like, you know, i like I was doing, I was like teaching classes and stuff for my company for a while. And you'd have us do a lot of like role play scenarios with the people that came in for training and stuff. And it,
01:32:45
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It was like very annoying how some people reacted to like the stress of the situation because it's low stakes. Nobody's getting a grade on it or anything like that. But like some people, I mean, you write, you know, I can understand getting nervous, but like some people's reaction to that is to like continually break character in the scenario and like try to make a joke out of the whole thing and stuff. And it, it just gets on your nerves so bad that you just start getting kind of harsh with them, you know?
01:33:14
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And like, I feel like there's a lot of that on Kill Tony where it's like somebody gets on there and bombs and they just won't own the fact that like they're not doing well. And then they try to like, you know, play it off as like, ah I'm actually I'm not even really trying that hard. And it's not a good move. Yeah, I didn't really want to be here. yeah Actually, the show sucks.
01:33:39
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You suck.
01:33:44
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Well, youre so your Kill Tony audition tape comes out, you said the 25th? Yeah, that's it, man. I can't wait to listen. It's only a minute long.
01:33:55
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I hope Woody from Toy Story isn't super mean to you. Who? killed Tony Hinchcliffe looks like Woody from Toy Story. He looks like a like a child's play version of Woody.
01:34:08
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Ha ha ha!
01:34:11
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Especially since he moved to Texas, he tries to play into that. And like sometimes he'll wear like a cowboy and like jeans and boots. And it's not him at all. yeah Like I don't even know where he's. I think he's from like California or something. But um it's a real battle of Buster Scruggs sort of thing. 100%. Yeah.
01:34:29
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yeah Austin's had an interesting impact on the comedy scene. But maybe. Yeah. That's another conversation. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. That could be a whole nother episode. Yeah.
01:34:44
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Yeah. Man. Well, Jeremy, thanks so much for joining us again. Always ah such a pleasure. Yeah. Thank you guys. Yeah, this was this is great. Glad we got to catch up.
01:34:55
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And I look forward to um to talking to you guys again in a couple of years. yeah All right. thanks, everybody, for listening. And we will see you next
01:35:17
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time.