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Ep. 233 – Stevie B With A Quick Whisper From the Ghost
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This week we’re taking a look at one of Christendom's favorite spirit-filled Hollyweird flunkies: Stephen Baldwin. You might think you know how bizarre Stevie B is, but I’ll bet you don’t…
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Stephen Baldwin's Super Bowl Reflection
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I said, what do you mean, Lord? Do you think everything with the Super Bowl just happened on its own?
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I said, what do you mean, Lord? He's got a great noise gate.
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Nothing happens by accident. Stop breathing so heavy. Just ask Jim Carrey. This is Stephen Baldwin ASMR, dude.
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What does that mean? Just ask Jim Carrey. Nothing happens by accident. Welcome to the Matrix. They they all love the Matrix, dude. but I actually have chills down my spine. I feel like I need to go, like, I want to, like, rake my skin off.
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Hey
Introduction to 'Growing Up Christian'
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everybody, we are back with another episode of Growing Up Christian. I'm Sam. And I'm Casey. And we were just talking about how we haven't, <unk>ve we've been avoiding politics for the most part.
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um For mental health, um I feel like I try to pay attention. i have the little sources I ah go to, but there's a lot of really smart people covering what's going on in the world.
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And i think what we try to avoid is um is acting like we know a lot about things when we don't. um And we know the podcast sphere is full of people being like, ah like I guess what one of the things that I've been thinking about a lot lately in regard to – we had Dan McClellan on right.
Tackling Biblical Misinformation
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And Dan McClellan's whole shtick is responding to biblically illiterate people who think that they're geniuses.
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Um, sometimes these people have degrees. a lot of times they don't. It's a lot of tick talkers spreading the same kind of bullshit. It's like little things that have been going around for 10 years that just have no truth to them at all.
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Um, And I'm thinking about like, i've I've been seeing videos of him responding to even people with with a lot of credentials. um And one of the things that we know about credentials is like,
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Someone like you see it and like the conservative sphere, especially at least I do um where it's like, or on a cool, ah a cool bit shoot documentary, like the one we watched ah last time I was out Casey, where it's like a doctor so-and-so. And then he starts talking about stuff that a doctor would know about. And then you realize that that's just not the kind of doctor he is.
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And it's like, so you might have someone with a PhD in theology, but you know, they're also talking about like with these videos And then they're also talking about, you know, um ancient, like Jewish life in certain eras or whatever. And it's like that they might be, you know, it might be a and something they're interested in and they're smart people who can maintain retain information, but maybe not always parse through it, especially when they have an agenda
Avoiding Political Misinformation
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or a goal. And,
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Then you hear him respond and I go, that, that, it makes me think a lot about the assertions that I make. Um, and, uh, you know, I'm more than happy to share my opinions on stuff, but, uh, sometimes when we, when you have, when you do politics, like to, to just kind of like touch on the highlights and, um,
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When there's a lot of moving parts and things going on and a lot of bullshit circulating too, that I might hear and think is true because it fits my goals and agendas. I don't want to be that part. I don't ever want to be quoted. Let's put it that way. I'll make, I'll sum it up that way. Don't, i never want anyone to hear what I say and say it to somebody else. Like it's true.
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um So, you know, we, we kind of avoid it, but there's been a lot going on in, it doesn't take a smart person to parse through it.
Musk vs. Trump Drama
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um And really any opinion is okay on it because we're currently watching Elon Musk crash the fuck out all over the internet.
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um And the way that him and Trump's relationship has gone up in flames is it's honestly beautiful. um It's heartwarming. Like I feel good inside. I feels good to just see one thing that doesn't suck right now.
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And this is, this is working for me. Yeah, it's a it's funny because i one of the most like irritating things about like the Trump era, especially round two, is that there's like so much stuff happening and something sensational happens and you and you start to freak out about it.
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And then a week later, like it didn't happen and it's not going to and nobody talks about it anymore. you know And you have to move on and and you just feel ashamed for like taking the bait again. and like...
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I remember like a bunch of people like, oh, i like Tim Dillon a bunch of other people saying that like, yeah, there's there's no way that this Trump-Musk thing lasts.
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Like these two cannot possibly get along for a long period of time. And it's like on the one, eight and you're listening to that and you're like, yeah, I guess that's true and stuff. And then 10 minutes later, you're looking at the news and you're like,
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God, you're never getting him out of there. He's going to be there till the end of time. Like Musk is like going to be an emperor or something like that. You know, did it of course the two of them, the minute they have a disagreement, it blow, it turns into full blown chaos with Musk being like, you know, there's the Epstein documents are never going to come out because Donald Trump's like dong pics are in there.
Embarrassing Leaks and Public Fallout
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I would love.
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Okay. Okay. i would I would love it. I don't believe in, like, revenge porn, obviously. I think post posting nudes of people who don't consent is wrong.
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um But I would look at Trump's penis if it was on the internet. and me Oh, without a doubt. Yeah, so fast. For sure. I have to know what it looks like. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy, but, you know. yeah i I also, like, dude, I had a friend who would...
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constantly talk about how like basically, you know, uh, Musk's running everything. Like he's like an evil genius. He orchestrated all this stuff. And I'm like, I don't think so, dude. I think he's like a maniac, a megalomaniac and with deep, deep, deep pockets. Uh, and we know there's Trump loves money.
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Like if you have money, he respects you. And even if like you can just, even if like, It's like the, you know, the jock hanging out with the nerd kind of thing. Like that. It's so there the idea of them being in a room together. You know, the only thing running through Trump's mind since the start was, oh, my God, I hate this guy.
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I fucking hate this guy. But he then he's like, but he has money and that makes him cool. Like. it is like he really really likes when people have a lot of money so i i that was kind of my thought is that it was always that um and i would my friend and i would argue back and forth about whether or not i'm like he's not gonna i was in that camp i was like that he's not gonna last like and especially like we know that like you know trump likes the spotlight we knew elon was gonna like him all all the showboating and everything was gonna get old for for trump um
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I did love the part where like there's that quote of Trump being like were about Doge after Elon started crashing
Musk's Financial and Reputational Challenges
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out. was like, wait, is this all bullshit? like He just doesn't even know.
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like He doesn't know. They found like $4 million dollars worth of stuff they could actually cut. and so relaxing jobs and everything a yeah yeah It's so funny. Just like the the Trump respects you to the extent that you're useful to him.
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And the minute you lose your usefulness or become an inconvenience or, you know, you just aren't willing to, you know, toe the line like you're out.
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And it's never like, a hey, we should probably part ways. It's always like a scorched earth, like burn them to the ground after the fact. And you think about it like, dude, how much did Elon donate to his campaign?
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Was it like two hundred and fifty million dollars or something like it wasn't that much, was it? It could have been. I think it was i think it was it was a lot, whatever it was. It was a crazy amount. I know Miriam Adelson gave him $100 million. dollars I'm sure that doesn't affect anything.
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But like ah the Elon money, whatever the the number was, you think about what that guy spent for like 90 days.
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288 million or 277 different are one different article CBS says 277 Washington Post says 288 so within that range though I mean, money well spent, right? 90 days as a figurehead of ah of a ah largely feckless organization that really didn't get anything. I mean he didn't even get to give himself any real good contracts.
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But there is like ah there was like a $400,000 contract for some electric vehicles for the Border Patrol, which is definitely gone now. mean, I didn't think they gave him that. But then they gave the other ones to, ah what, Sam Altman or whatever, right? The AI contracts.
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Yeah, yeah. and he ah And in the process, on top of lu losing all that money to the campaign and getting nothing for it, he also completely tanked Tesla. Like, everyone hates Tesla.
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Nobody, that what, he's got like ah over 200,000 Cybertrucks he can't get anyone to buy. Like, people are over it. He spent 200 and some million dollars and torched his company.
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for For what? For what? Like, i mean, literally, like, what did he get out of it? I mean, it's an it's a net negative like nobody's ever seen before. This is like possibly the worst investment anybody's ever made and to go from that. And then to have to like, like, try to have your fanboys go out and rep you as some sort of like genius visionary that's going to like, you know, usher in the next, you know, level of human development or whatever. i It's not going to work anymore.
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So I don't know what he does from here on out. I mean, maybe he like buys my pillow or something like that. but Like it's it's over, dude. The the glory days of of yeah he's finished like Musk's triumphant reign at the top are done.
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And then he yeah what then when him and Trump are going back and forth, because at first Elon was like, um I think I'm done. donating to political campaigns for a little while, but then he starts floating that he's going to just fund the next DNC candidate.
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And, uh, Trump's like, if you do that, there's going to be serious repercussions, which is a wild thing for a president to do threaten how somebody donates their money. Um, they're back and forth. It's crazy. And also the other thing that's been wild is, um,
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Was it the New York Times that first reported on um just the insane drug cocktail that Elon's been on? Yeah, and that so I don't doubt that it's true, but it is like very convenient timing that during the middle of their fallout, like all of a sudden it's just story after story about what it's like strung out drug addict Elon is.
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Yeah. ah Probably true. to the extent that it's affecting his behavior, I don't know. But it is like the the timing of it all is a little like sus. I can imagine. ah It feels like it's very possible it's been ramping up over time like addiction does.
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um I mean, he acts more and more lame by the week. Yeah. it's He's definitely the lamest public person we've ever had. Did you see his... um Ragdoll jumping jacks. Who did he the interview with after... forget who he did the interview with after his exit from Doge, but...
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um the guy asks him about the big, beautiful bill or something like that. And he's like, uh, I thought, I didn't think we were going to talk about stuff like that. And he's like, what?
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And he's like, I, I thought, you know, this is an interview about like SpaceX and we're going to talk about rockets and stuff. And he's like, so you're saying it's off the table. And he's like, I mean, and nothing's off the table. He's like, so I can ask you about that. And he's like, uh, no, it's like,
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Okay, you dude, you weren't ready for you weren't ready for a tough question. I know you've been getting softballs for a long time because everyone's scared they're going to get fired if they disagree with you. But Jesus, we we are in like ah this is like, I don't know, this is the golden age of like career ruining interviews because yeah we we had Musk like everyone that Musk does nowadays is pretty rough.
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yeah We had Kash Patel on Rogan i want explaining why Epstein killed himself and they're giving the public everything that they have. I mean, they don't want to re-victimize women. That's important to them. but that's That's very important.
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If they had it, don't don't you think the FBI would give it to you? yeah If they had it. It's... that but you Rogan looked like... i won't go to bat for Rogan on really and under any circumstances these days.
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but like I still like Rogan. He seemed genuinely like speechless. Like...
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li like it's like he i really It didn't feel like he knew like what to say. ah and he was almost like wanted to push back. like You could tell he knew it was stupid. I don't know why he wasn't like pushing back more. but he thats That's what's wild to me. i That's what he just not his style.
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like now He's like conversational and stuff. i mean That's just not how he does things. you know It just feels so insane to have such major... characters on who are some of the biggest liars in in political history and to just hear their lie and and then move on to a new topic is is so insane to me i guess i mean i think at the end of the day like i mean maybe you get a little better soundbite out of him but like you're not going to argue him into a corner where he's going to be like okay well i you know
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you're probably You're right. I mean, it's i mean that's that's a thing like with... um oh God, what was the recent interview? i can't remember. But I don't know. I feel like there's like there's just not much that you can do in that situation. And so I think like to some extent, I feel like the listeners can parse out like how how much they trust that particular person.
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and Some people are better at it than others. I mean, some people are definitely better at lying through that situation than other people. I mean, Cash Patel is really bad at it. Really terrible. He had to know that that was going to come up too. Like he acted like he was totally unprepared for that situation.
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And there's been so much discussion of the Epstein files on Rogan's show. Like I've, I've heard a million clips of him talking about it on there. Like he had to know that that was going to come up and that is the best, like, like,
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The FBI's PR team meeting together and discussing the mantras they're going to use to like make it through these interview questions, that was the best they could do. was Look, let's let's let's play this out rationally here.
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if If I was to have video of somebody and committing a felony, if I if i had that... don't Don't you think that I would give that to you? That's it? That's what you came up with? you're like No, because ah everyone has had it for a long time and no one's given it to us.
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Because it's like, what yes, I'm going to assume in good faith that you would give that to us when it's glaringly obvious that there is a lot of blackmail going on in those files. And the risk of putting it out there puts all these high powered people ah in some pretty sticky situations.
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Yeah. Ironically, they were probably in very literally sticky situations in those videos. yeah I think um ah even even the fact that like like all along from the day from this the day after he killed and he supposedly killed himself, we've we've been told from day one that the cameras weren't turned on and that the guards were asleep.
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Yeah. And like, I mean, just undermining that narrative at this point is insane. So like, Oh, especially when you're trying to garner trust, you're ah you're trying to get us to trust you and assume that you would give us what it is
Epstein Files and Trust Issues
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that you have. And now you're just like presenting a totally different narrative than we've been given since his death.
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Yeah. It's insane. it's crazy. I don't know, dude. It's at this point, like, It's never going to come out and say unless some benevolent hacker or some, you know, jilted FBI agent or CIA person or whatever, my Mossad agent, and like decides to leave those things, like we'll never see them. They are never turning them over. Same with like a bunch of the JFK stuff and whatnot.
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I've never gotten into that one very deep, but like another one. They said they're going to declassify. ah Yeah, I would like to see, this is when you just need, um like Anonymous keeps putting out these little like videos that they're going to do something um and it's going to be big.
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When's the last time they did something? was was The last thing they did, and it wasn't very big, um was publish the flight logs for everyone who was being deported uh, to, um, the hotel, El Salvador, El Salvador, ah concept like concentration camp. Oh, that's pretty cool. I didn't know they did that.
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Yeah. Um, and what so the idea would be that people would, you know, if you have the flight, like, you know, which, you know, where to look for people, um, you know where they are. Um, so it was something, um, I don't know what will come of that. Um,
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but I feel like they need a, I feel like they need a bigger bombshell. Um, they, it feels like they need to do something that will let the government know that other, there are other forces in control and that their lives, like, cause they have so much blackmail on one side, right? We know that's what Epstein files are all about that. And probably it's really intelligence related shit too. But like,
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It's like we and don't quote me on that. Nobody quote me. These are just my opinions. But like ah I feel like like we know there's so like all this big money, all this blackmail. We know it's there. And like someone needs to counter blackmail, you know, like, all right. Now, now they're not the only ones with this information.
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Yeah. Or ah put it out there so the blackmailing has to stop, right? Like if the public knows about it, we know we don't hold our politicians and the incredibly wealthy accountable.
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We know they'll get six months probation and maybe the corporate death penalty. Like we know nothing serious is going to happen. um And we know all their fines are allocated overseas and they're going to be fine.
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So, yeah. so I'm not expecting a big payout with a whole like a prison full of rich white dudes. um i'm But I am like if you put that out there and that in then that's the worst thing that could happen to the people who are being controlled by these other forces, you go, all right, well, fuck it now, I guess like.
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there It kind of it mitigates the power on the other side that's pulling the
Call for Transparency and Anonymous
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strings. And I feel like Anonymous needs to do something for real big. And I would love to see that. I think they should. I'm all for of those types of things.
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I support WikiLeaks, all of that. You know, I think all of that's great. Julian Assange is what is he on his deathbed now? I know they they. I know he's out of that embassy, but he's been getting like slow poison since 2002 or whatever.
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Probably. They hated that guy. Did we talk about Glenn Greenwald last time? About his whole thing? I don't think so. We haven't talked to about anything like this yeah in a minute.
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So Glenn Greenwald's been like a very outspoken critic of of the you know the genocide in gaza he's gone real hard after the israeli government the idf exposed a bunch of that kind of stuff um i think glenn greenwald's great i know not everybody loves him but i think he is an absolute icon he's like one of the best journalists of our era and Um, his husband died like a year ago or something from some type of illness, or maybe it was a year and a half, something like that, you know, but, uh, yeah, like last week, um, somehow mysteriously like video of him engaged in some sort of like kinky sex acts or something with another man got leaked.
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And the guy, dude, I think this guy rules so much. He handled it like just a beast. Like he comes out and he's like, he's like really disgusted that, that somebody leaked this stuff, you know, and they, and they're using it to like discredit him as, you know, like, Oh, we're going to talk about morality from a guy who's involved in this or whatever. But he's like, look, I'm angry that these were leaked, but I'm not ashamed of anything in those videos. That's,
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consensual acts between two adults. There's nothing wrong with it. And ah you know, you're not going to like make me feel ashamed of, of, you know, my private actions with, a it was such a great response. It was awesome.
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I thought like, man, what a beast. I would, I would just be mortified if that happened to me. He's like, I'm not, this isn't going to affect me. I'm going to keep on reporting the way I want to. i don't I don't know much about him. I know you mentioned him. There's been some conversation in our Discord about him, I think.
00:22:52
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A little bit, yeah. but he his like The first time he was on my radar was um you know he was one of the two journalists at The Intercept that published the ah oh the ah Edward Snowden files.
Glenn Greenwald's Resilience
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Oh, okay. so Snowden worked through Glenn Greenwald and... ah I can't remember if it was Jeremy Scahill. I can't remember who exactly it was, but it was I think it was Jeremy Scahill at the Intercept. But the two of them were at the Intercept at the time, and they they actually worked with him to like publish those files. And they worked through pretty tirelessly, like redacting names and things like that, you know.
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Is that did Ryan Grimm come from the intercept to do he do he did they all those guys left the intercept over the last couple of years because of I think it got bought out by a different company and they didn't feel that like they felt like their freedom to to cover certain topics and stuff like that was being restricted and so they were like that we're out we're doing our own thing so.
00:23:56
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Which is great. I think those guys are awesome. I love Ryan Grimm. love Jeremy Scahill. I think they're just like fearless journalists. and that's a Which feels like a thing of the past now. I feel like like pop journalism is like the thing. you just kind of it' there not even a lot of um There's not even a lot of true journalism in the sense that like...
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ah like, alright, tonight I was looking for some information on, which we won't get, there's not a lot of new information, but I wanted to check in on our buddy um John Paul Miller.
00:24:35
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John Paul Miller was a dude who his wife ah died, they ruled it a suicide, they found her out in like a swamp with a bullet in her head,
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and Then he was getting married to a woman who's... Oh. Yeah. He he ended up, after that, like he was cleared, but like there was a lot of reason.
00:24:58
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It was a very fishy case. Yeah. A lot of people had reason to believe that um things weren't okay between ah Miller and his wife. that yeah had He had been stalked. She had left, and he had been like stalking her and...
00:25:13
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had slashed like paid so people to slash her tires and do a bunch of stuff in her car. They were separated. ah Family members reported that she had told them that she was in fear that she had been abused.
00:25:25
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um So she's, she's trying to file for divorce. um And then she ends up dead. um Well, he ends up in a relationship that was um with another woman who's, and that woman's husband was a,
00:25:43
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a veteran paraplegic due to injuries. And he he mysteriously drowned in a pool. Oh, yeah, remember that. It was couple plays suspected, but it got cleared.
00:25:58
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um That guy was like a total like inspirational figure too, wasn't he? I mean, he was like paralyzed, but he had done a whole bunch of stuff like since... Being injured and whatnot.
00:26:09
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Yeah, I don't remember the details on him. um I'm trying to remember. i started going down this rabbit hole for a very particular reason. um And I wasn't going to get too in the weeds on it.
00:26:19
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um Why did I go down this road? You were talking about an update to his... Yeah, I was. Oh, looking. Oh, I was good. I was just going to talk about um the lack of real journalism.
00:26:32
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um And I'll get to that. I'll just quickly go through the rest of this for the listeners. um Yeah. So the man who died, the paraplegic, he accused his wife of having an affair with Miller and okay, he ends up dead.
00:26:49
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Miller's wife ends up dead. And now these two just got, they just got married a few days ago. That's right. Real romantic. They were together like immediately after the partners were dead, right? Yep.
00:27:02
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um But when I was looking for articles about like some updates on it, I found three that were almost the exact same wording. And,
00:27:14
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It's like, this is insane. Like this is either AI generated or people are just ripping off other people's writing. Like and this is, I don't know who's writing these. There are names attached to them. I didn't click on the names to see if they're real. They're probably AI generated.
00:27:28
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They're probably not even real people for all we know. But like when you think of like journalism and uncovering stuff and breaking a story now, it's just like, i don't know. It's like they have Google alerts set up ah for like arrest reports and obituaries and,
00:27:43
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in weddings, and then they just like AI generate articles based on previous writings to provide up. to It's really weird. um But that does happen a lot when like trying to find, you know, update information on stories that we'll talk about here where I'm like, I just read the same thing four different times from four different websites. very frustrating, like we really trying to get more information and like you just keep clicking on articles that say the exact same things.
00:28:12
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Yeah. And like a good journalist, if they're going to write the article, they're going to build up a story. Like they're also should be a lot. They're good writers. You know, you they're building up this story and they're taking you through it and you're invested and you want to read it. Now it's
Critique of Modern Journalism
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like, oh well, people don't want to stay on an article for more than three and a half minutes. So what we're going to do is write the same bullshit we always do. And at the top, we're going to put five.
00:28:33
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headlines in bold that summarize the entire article because most people will just read those in dip. And then we at least still get some of the ad revenue. It's like, it's so stupid. Um, A little bit more information on on Miller, though, since I ended up talking about it. was And it's it's nothing. But he apparently had armed guards at his wedding, and it was very private, like on the beach.
00:28:55
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And his that they have seven kids together now. like i don't one of them I don't know how many each of them had, but like in total, between the two of them, there's seven children. and None of the children were at this wedding. I would love to know what they think about it.
00:29:10
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Yeah. armed guards there. And apparently the armed guards are because like back in February, he, he tried to file a restraining order against people who were like protesting him outside of the church.
00:29:23
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Um, and they were making him feel like unsafe and blah, blah, blah, blah. blah And, uh, he ended up getting, um, the, the restraining order petition got dismissed, uh, because,
00:29:39
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Well, I'll tell you that in a second. During the hearing, this is my favorite part. During the hearing, John Paul told Judge Christopher Arrakis, he's all for peaceful protests, but these are not protests.
00:29:50
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These three, the three people that he's filed the restraining order against, are not protesting. He added, they're demonic, screaming like a demon. These people need Jesus, Miller said to the judge.
00:30:03
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The courtroom full of members of his church were seen nodding and saying, amen, amen. And i love I love that idea that he can't separate himself from the idea that he's always like preaching in a church.
00:30:20
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Like what judge cares about that narrative? Oh, none. Almost none. Especially coming from this guy. That hurts your case so bad. Trying to tell a judge that the problem with the people who are bothering you is that they need Jesus. And he should just be like...
00:30:34
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Isn't that your job, dude? Don't you do this for a living? Maybe you should lead them to Christ. I know. Keep them close so you can witness to them. How else? They're they're listening.
00:30:45
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They're near you all the time. You definitely have an opportunity here, man, and you're squandering it. um But the after the judge denied the restraining order request. He said that when the police were calling, when the police were called and the protesters, the officers didn't find any wrongdoing.
00:31:03
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um And he, of course, sided with the First Amendment rights. But it's just it's I guess what I think is really funny is um the attorney said that the he thought that all the witnesses that they had called to the stand weren't reputable or too biased because every single one of them was like a member from his church.
00:31:30
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Who, who at this point is still sitting in those pews? It's... I mean, for God's sake. it's That's like, so that you're following a cult leader at that point. Like, if if someone can go through all of that and it can... I don't even care, like, you can decide in your mind that, like, maybe he didn't do it, but those are some bad optics that you should separate yourself from.
00:31:52
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Like, no one should be able to survive... like it's one quin When there's like three or four coincidences involving death around somebody, we just we culturally we just have to decide that this person is no longer a mouthpiece for us. you know Yeah, there's there's a little too much smoke.
00:32:13
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And be preaching fire and brimstone. It's. And that's the the concerning thing about it too. That honestly, what like the self-fulfilling prophecy in some way, like the thing that confirms for me the most that he's definitely guilty is that he's still doing the same shit.
00:32:30
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Like normal people would go, look, I'm fucked. i need i need delalo I need to sell car insurance now. Like, yeah, But no, this guy's like, I am ah messenger of the Lord and it is important that people hear me preach on a Sunday and I will survive it. Like, that means you did it, dude.
00:32:50
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If you have the audacity to get up there every Sunday after all these accusations and that you have the audacity to show up before a judge to try to file restraining orders against people who think you're a bad person.
00:33:02
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With your shiny new widow wife. Oh my God, dude, you did it You just, by you're basically walking in there telling everybody you're guilty. and Only guilty people have that kind of confidence because they're serial killers and narcissists and egomaniacs.
00:33:18
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Yeah. Something. yeah God. I just, it boggles the mind that people would still be there after all of that, but whatever, I guess.
00:33:31
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It reminds me, so I was, I sent you the video, um but April and i were watching the video earlier on ah while we were eating dinner about this, this girl who's like, quote unquote, the most hated tattoo artist on TikTok. I didn't get chance to look at that yet.
00:33:50
Speaker
It is. ah oh man, it's it's rough. So her name's Ariel. They they his soose de Jesus. ah I don't know. Ariel the Jesus.
00:34:01
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And ah she has a pretty big tech talk page and she she's I think in Austin or something like that, but does tattoos. And her big claim to fame is blindfold tattoos.
00:34:15
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Oh, so God. People come in and she says, give me three themes. And almost all of them that I saw, like that were mentioned on on the ones that I saw were the same. It was like um watercolor, Disney and the ocean.
00:34:35
Speaker
but it was like watercolor and disney were like mentioned about 90 of the time watercolor is like a a style of tattoo that gets a shit ton of shade on the internet because it's one of those ones that like looks good when it's fresh but like every after a while every tattoo like the colors i mean a a good artist they'll you know Your tattoo will look good, but like everything bleeds a little bit. like The fine line tattoos get a lot of shit too because after like three years, everything kind of they bleed a little bit. they
00:35:10
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Things fade out a little bit. and it Looks like your sketchbook got wet. Yeah, yeah. So if it's too tight, if the like the lines are too tight together, it just it ends up not looking great. I'm sure there's better artists than others, but I would just say that like in general, watercolor and fine line get a lot of shit because I'm not sure that there's, I don't think most are as good as you think they are.
00:35:39
Speaker
And they're probably mostly posting pictures of the tattoos, like freshly healed, but watercolor blindfolded, No, thanks. the The person getting the tattoo is blindfolded. So they give her three themes. Oh, my God. I thought you meant a woman.
00:35:55
Speaker
Well, that would be insane. i Well, some of them could look like maybe she was blindfolded. therere they're not They're not good. And like repeatedly throughout the thing, it's like she does a lot of like cover-ups and stuff like that. Oh, God, she's covering. It's $160, and it's like, dude, they are not covered up. It's really bad. It just looks like it looks like my my when I write, I press down really hard.
00:36:25
Speaker
and my My hand c cra like cramps up immediately when I start writing. But like the back page of my notebook, it yeah there's 300 pages worth of like compressed you know impressions in there. like Her work looks like that. there's yeah yeah It's clearly visible like what you were trying to cover up. but she's basically giving she's People are basically paying her to give them a tattoo that they're going to have to pay to cover up.
00:36:51
Speaker
Yeah, it does seem that way. And... she also like just shamelessly like steals other people's tattoos and artwork and all this stuff it's really funny because of how like but same thing it's like how do you know she she's even like posting like pictures on her facebook page and stuff of just like ai tattoo designs like straight off of like an AI tattoo generator thing, you know, for people who are trying to like map one out or whatever. Like, yeah.
00:37:22
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And not even ones that she made herself. Like the girl in the video was reverse image searching, like all of these pictures that she posted. And if you didn't know any better, you would think, oh, she did this tattoo. Like that's, that's her work, but no, she just posts it.
00:37:37
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And, and like, leaves no description. Dude, it's the craziest thing, but it's just like, that is the level of shamelessness. that like that That pastor and his like ah you know widow wife.
00:37:49
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yeah more It's like, I don't care. that's oh is your art work Too bad, so sad. It's mine now. I don't care. that's that's thats is ah all the I get moving away from being like overly shaming people and stuff, but man, we've...
00:38:05
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The pendulum swung too far because that when you look at what people without shame can do, it it's just that's why we started shaming. We we saw like I feel like society saw so too many awful things and they're like, we need to we need to stop this when they're young.
00:38:21
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We need to make them hate themselves. Yeah. Yeah. and It's just, I don't, she's getting tons of shame, but like, I just don't think it's, it's not setting in She doesn't care.
00:38:34
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She also does some music too on the side. So there's some like real cool, like, I, her, her email that she posts for like inquiries and stuff is tattooing for Christ.
00:38:46
Speaker
Oh, God. And so she, her music is all like a gospel freestyles. Freestyles. Yeah, that's not word she used.
00:38:59
Speaker
Is she white? She's I think she's Latino. OK, but she's like singing a lot about Jesus delivering her from anxiety. Hmm.
00:39:11
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That's an important message these days. I mean. ah why not co-opt the therapy culture zeitgeist and graft it into your bullshit Christian ideas? That's kind of what everybody's doing it.
00:39:23
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Yeah. That's, Oh man, that's the move. Um, I, speaking of shameless, uh, we have another shameless cat. That's the theme of the night. I think it's just utter shamelessness from Trump to Musk to John Paul Miller to hideous tattoo girl.
00:39:44
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We're going to move on to perhaps the worst offender. ah He's really something. It's a name. You'll, ah it's a last name you all recognize.
00:39:55
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ah perhaps the least famous of the three. there three? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Stephen Baldwin and ah his it's funny you brought him up because like I just heard. ah Oh, God, I think it was Lemon Party was talking about him and like, put you know, like playing some clips of him on on other podcasts and interviews and stuff. And he's just saying like bizarre things.
00:40:23
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And having dug into it, because you sent me ah um a YouTube video of him. He has like a one man show that's like a ah like a crucifixion play.
00:40:35
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It's called ah How I Got Here, the story of the thief on the cross. um Incidentally, I learned about this watching um and I'm glad I did. i don't watch the show very much these days, but.
00:40:48
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but Last night, I checked out the latest episode of um John Oliver's Last Week Tonight. And um he he was talking about Mike Lindell for a minute and joking on his Another shameless person. Yeah. Another shameless person. I, I don't know.
00:41:12
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I mean, he's in the fucking thick of it. This dude's, he's another guy who's just ruined his career, but can't admit that it's all his fault. And, ah something about his movie net. He has, he has a movie network. Um,
00:41:26
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Oh, good. And his moving in his movie network was playing this Stephen Baldwin film, and John Oliver showed a clip from it.
00:41:38
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And i was like, they this... It was weird to call it a movie, because it looks like someone used a handheld camcorder while the... the you know middle row of a church, like a decent size, you know, three, 400 person church. Um, and just kind of fill, excuse me. Oh, he was building this, this play as a, as a movie.
00:42:04
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Yeah. Apparently, apparently it's a movie. You did me dirty. Cause I assumed that you had watched this thing. watched The whole hour long thing today.
00:42:15
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then you're like, Oh, I didn't even try. very i if Casey, let's just, I, let's, if I send you a video that's over 10 minutes long, I probably didn't watch the whole thing.
00:42:30
Speaker
Yeah. You just tricking me into watching it. I should have known you would watch it because you're a sucker for truly objectively horrible material. Um, but you And you have like a much stronger stomach for it than I do. because yeah it's like It's like gold mining during the gold rush. you know like you're like It's like the tail end of the gold rush. And you're out there just fucking sifting through riverbeds.
00:42:55
Speaker
Thinking that yeah like you're going to find that fucking... Definitely not making any money. Because that never seems to happen. And that's you with shit like this. You're like...
00:43:06
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ah You texted me and you were probably like, I can't even imagine how far you were into it, but you were like, you said, so what did you even say? i
Stephen Baldwin's One-Man Show
00:43:15
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yeah I'm trying to get through this little play, but it's so boring. I thought maybe he'd have some unique approach to the story, but it's just a regular old crucifixion from the thief's perspective.
00:43:25
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And I'm guessing you were probably about 40 minutes in when you sent me that. I think so, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so the play takes place in heaven. So Stephen Baldwin takes the stage and and gives you a He's giving you a tour of heaven.
00:43:44
Speaker
And he is supposed to be the thief that was hanging on the cross next to Jesus and ah you know asked him to remember him. And it's just... like It's it's like such a weird start that you're like, okay, this is...
00:44:02
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He's going to do something with this. Like, there's going to be some interesting angle here, but not really. i mean, it's just like, I was a thief, and I got that way because I was angry at the Romans.
00:44:14
Speaker
They invaded my homeland, and I wanted revenge, so I started stealing. What the fuck? I mean, that's this that's the story of, like, The Patriot. That's, like, Braveheart. That's the shit that these people love.
00:44:28
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That's why they own guns. They literally jerk off to the idea of fighting off an invasion. Yeah, it is a central theme in a lot of what they produce. And then they do this, and they're like, but well, that they're like, that it's different somehow? I don't know. That's crazy. be like The lack of introspection is pretty ah it's pretty incredible.
00:44:49
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He does cut a few cool jokes in the beginning when he's like showing you around heaven. Like oh he, he, he tell, he talks about who else is up there and he's like, he's like, of course, you know, we got Joseph and his multicolor coat.
00:45:06
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Um, you know, the funny thing is, is that Joseph was colorblind. It all looked great to him, but he can see it now. Ha! And the audience like laughs on cue. Or yeah he talks about like Jonah. He's like, now Jonah got swallowed by this whale.
00:45:23
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And it took him three days to really come to the realization that he was wrong. I tell you what, it'd take me about five minutes of smelling that that's fell smelly fish smell, P.U., and I would have been begging for forgiveness.
00:45:38
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Oh, my God. I hate this. I hate this.
00:45:44
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like it hurts It hurts. It's like when um it's it feels like when toddlers learn about what jokes are and they want to tell you some.
00:45:55
Speaker
Yes, that is church humor. like The from the fromthe pulpit humor is always like pretty much that. Yeah, it is. like your Your grandpa...
00:46:07
Speaker
is a little senile. He's regressed to the level of like, you know, kind of like adult toddler, whatever jokes he would, he would tell like, that's, that's what church humor is.
00:46:18
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and And there is repetitive, you know, old people, every time you see him, they say the same joke. Like they have that like line that they say when they see you. Um, and it was like, uh, Jill's grandfather, uh,
00:46:34
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Before he passed, like, for I mean, he just had these lines that he had used since I met him. And it was like, one of them was, ah pull up a chair and sit on the floor. Always.
00:46:47
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like Isn't that the pinnacle, like, old? is That's like the peak old man saying. Yeah. Yeah, you get a haircut and they're like, oh, did you get your ears lowered? Yep. Yep.
00:46:57
Speaker
Pull up a chair and sit on the floor. He loved it. My great-grandpa always used to say like at dinnertime, he'd be like, no, I want you to eat every bean and pee on your plate. yeah Oh, yeah. That's pretty good.
00:47:11
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Yeah, classic. The funny thing is they stick, though. Like now that he's now that her grandfather is gone, like we all repeat that, you know, it's like a family joke because that's what grandpa always said. And I have a feeling it'll just that one's going to hang around. Like, but I think I think my kids my kids will be hearing that the rest of their childhood um partly in jest. Right. But like also out of his legacy.
00:47:36
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Yeah. Also out of respect. Yeah.
00:47:40
Speaker
Yeah, well, there's a little of that at the beginning, and then it then it turns into... you know, just, just what you would expect. It's like, you know, I, my, my mom used to teach me about God and I would go to the synagogue and this and that and the other, but you know, eventually I just didn't care anymore. I just wasn't worried about it.
00:48:01
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Blah, blah, blah. Something about oppression from the Romans and this and that. Isn't it funny that whenever his show comes out, that's based on the Bible.
00:48:12
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ah the The highest amount of criticism or the most intense criticism it will get is when they try to fill in gaps with with narrative, right? Like you have to create parts of story um and and find a way to develop these characters that lack a lot of development because the purpose wasn't the purpose wasn't to tell a story as though it could be translated to film or book or anything like that. so like
00:48:45
Speaker
And whenever they do that, like you take the book of – you take ah the movie Noah, um when that came out, there's a lot of frustration from Christians about the way they chose to do that because it wasn't quote-unquote biblical. It's like they editorialized a bit. Yeah. and What they didn't realize is a lot of it did come from Jewish literature. A lot of it came from the Book of Enoch.
00:49:09
Speaker
But not real. um But what's ah but then someone like Stephen Baldwin does that. Right. Creates an entire story for a guy we know nothing about.
00:49:23
Speaker
But because every aspect of it lines up with that his audience is theology and their. ah misguided understanding of how or why people like lose the faith or like, I just don't care about it anymore. I want to drink with my friends. Like just fucking pedantic shit like that.
00:49:48
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And it's like, as long as you, as long as you make the narrative, the, the extra biblical narrative fit within their theological and cultural sensibilities, then you can do whatever the fuck you want.
00:50:03
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Yeah, exactly. Did he do the thing with that? He was doing the thing where you play different character and he would have like that little scarf on. But then when he was doing like a woman character, he would put the shawl up over his head.
00:50:15
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Yeah, he did a really cool three way dialogue between him and his brother and their mom. Yeah, she's like mitigating an argument between the two of them. And that was that was pretty cool.
00:50:27
Speaker
You know what? Look, it's not fun to watch. for a church thing, like it's not bad. It's it's better than most, I would say. But, you know, the bar is pretty low.
00:50:40
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I think that like the other thing that kind of struck me about it, too, is just like it's like everything surrounding that story, just like that that the emphasis on like the like the most grisly, gruesome descriptions you can come up with. Like you have to you have to continually like and I get why, but like Just the, you know, he he talking about like being nailed to the cross and he's got like a hammer and he's just whacking this table.
00:51:10
Speaker
Boom, boom, boom. And then, you know, I would, you know, when I would hang on my, on my wrists, like i I found that I couldn't breathe. So, you know, I would, I would push myself up with my, with my legs and, and then I could, I could get a breath, but the pain was excruciating. And this, I mean, just, yeah.
00:51:31
Speaker
way over the top like emphasis on the gruesome goriness of the whole thing which would have made me as a kid like that kind of thing made me sick i always like when i was a kid i was i was it drove the point the point home for me but ah that is funny because that is um i remember hearing those same things like yeah they would they would have the little platform for your feet and then you would have to stand up to catch the breath. I heard the exact same thing.
00:51:59
Speaker
And then when you were holding on too long or they didn't like the sound of those gargly noises you make while you were choking on your own blood and fluids, they would just come over and break your shins so you couldn't stand up anymore. that was break Oh yeah. He went through that whole deal. Yeah. Of course him breaking his legs and, and then stabbing Jesus and his blood spilled all over and stuff. Like I get it. I get it.
00:52:20
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I do. It's just, At this point, like I've <unk>ve heard it so many times and I watched the movie like that's it. Like what? the Some people just can't admit the Bible's kind of stale now.
00:52:34
Speaker
Like, what do you do? No one's doing new shit. There's nothing new to find out. There's no new way to communicate the same things. Like we're kind of done. We saw this movie.
00:52:45
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Now we're just doing remakes of the same fucking shit. And it's like, I think that's what's so like, and for someone who still enjoys learning about like, like the academic study of the Bible, academic criticism of the Bible, like,
00:53:01
Speaker
I there's still so much to learn about the world that it was written in the languages it was written in and then like and I feel like I can still like wow I'm always learning something new and not just it's part of its entertainment.
00:53:19
Speaker
You know, i I'm a, that's fine. I'm not, I'm not like trying to encode everything I learned so I can tell people and change their mind. I don't care. I i find it fun and fascinating.
00:53:30
Speaker
You like to learn about insects and bugs and see what happens when you poke different frogs, buttholes and how they react. And, I like to me, I hear this stuff and I go, that was my entertainment. I enjoyed that. I go, wow, that's really fucking fascinating to learn a little bit of something about a world that's I'm so far removed from that. I'll never be able to understand, but this made it a little bit clearer and it helped me in some way think about, and I could maybe find ways to connect that to my own life in a way I go. Yeah. People are still kind of the same too. And I think that's cool.
00:54:02
Speaker
So then like when you go back to an evangelical church and you hear – like I heard a piece of an evangelical sermon somewhat recently.
00:54:15
Speaker
And I was just like – I got like deja vu. And I'm like everybody here is like into it. Like this is the first – it's like –
00:54:25
Speaker
It's like, and for yeah, it's like the first time they've ever heard it or then they'll be like, yeah, the sermon was great today. And i i to me, it just, to to hear something like 10 years, 15 years after I left like a traditional like evangelical church and to, whenever I catch pieces of it, hear the exact same things I've always heard.
00:54:50
Speaker
i just, oh, how we not, how has this not run its course yet? Yeah, and it's like all kind of reliant on the like tacit compliance of the audience. to all like We're all sort of in a group, like an unspoken group contract to to to buy in and be interested and to act like this is profound.
Repetitive Biblical Storytelling
00:55:10
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And i think what's frustrating about that is that, you know, since doing this show, like I've read the Bible more than I did maybe ever, you know, for like different things that we've done. There's so much fascinating stuff because it literally like it should, it should touch like everything.
00:55:26
Speaker
every part of the human experience like you should never run out of material to talk about but you do when you just continue to rehash the same subjects from the same point of view with the same like basic message and stuff
Stephen Baldwin's Cryptic Online Presence
00:55:40
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and I think that's what kind of sucks about it but mm-hmm Having watched that, I was like, man, I know Stephen Baldwin is a weird guy.
00:55:50
Speaker
Like I've heard little bits and pieces of things that he said that were really strange. And then like, you know, on other podcasts, they've talked about some weird stuff that he did. And so I just kind of like I just kind of went digging around like in his on YouTube and in his like social media profiles to see what all sorts of stuff was there. And um didn didn't disappoint.
00:56:13
Speaker
I hate this. Dude, this guy's so annoying. can't stand him. He hasn't been successful for a long time. well He was in like The Usual Suspects and a couple other things. you know I think he's probably a pretty good actor, but he's been so bizarre.
00:56:31
Speaker
and he's like ben you know He's lived out his like faith in a very annoying way. yeah And I think it closes doors for him. And then he interprets that as... And that's his sacrifice, his persecution. Yeah, I tried to stand up for Jesus in Hollyweird, this demon-filled cesspool. He calls it Hollyweird, doesn't he?
00:56:53
Speaker
Oh, I'm sure, yeah. he he's he's He makes a lot of insinuations about like how things are satanic and stuff. But... I pulled a few clips here.
00:57:03
Speaker
love your clips, and I also love them very much. ah So let's just I'll just start you off with like ah something that's very typical of ah you know what he likes to post about.
00:57:20
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You know what Hollywood keeps telling me? Shh. Don't say anything. You know what the American church keeps telling me?
00:57:35
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Don't say anything. Ugh. You know what I have to say to Angel Studios and the new TV show Homestead?
00:57:48
Speaker
God's wrath is upon you. What? He's at Angel Studios? Dude, they align with him in all. I mean, I can't imagine they don't align with him in every single way.
00:58:01
Speaker
I don't know. i don't know what this guy thinks. Honestly, i have no idea what he thinks. I've watched a lot of his stuff at this point. i have no idea what this guy's deal is. He's basically kept his career on life support by just posting cryptic, empty nothingness.
00:58:17
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He never explains anything. How old do you think he is? He's got to be like mid 50s to late 50s, right? Yeah, he's 59. That sounds about right.
00:58:29
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And it looks like he stole the face of a 50 year old and then just like sewn it off. Yeah. hand-stitched. we were yeah We were talking about this earlier, but if you go through his um if his Instagram, one thing you will notice is his love of flat-brim hats.
00:58:51
Speaker
Yes. and That is something that... like i don't I don't know like the actual cutoff for when you shouldn't be wearing anymore. Honestly, sometimes, like yeah, I don't know. But you just know like when you see a guy of a certain age wearing one and you go, oh, fuck, he overdid it. like He overextended his ability to wear flapper hats.
00:59:14
Speaker
it doesn't They don't work. They don't work after a certain age. That's a young man's game. um i don't know. You wear flabby hats, right? Yeah, some. I feel like i'm I'm drifting out of it, though.
00:59:27
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Yeah, as I was going to say, like, because I wanted to say maybe, like, once you're in your early 40s is when it starts getting a little, like, dewy. Yeah, ah but it depends on what you look like, too. Like, if you're yeah if you're a real young-looking 40 and you're still, like, you know,
00:59:43
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hip you know like this guy i imagine is wearing his flat brim hats with his like his the same pair of khaki pants he's had since 1980 yeah probably isn't a good look his his wrangler dad jeans with a flat brim cap and uh probably not working uh with maybe a leather jacket still not working. like There's a lot about his fit that is... it just It's not an ensemble that you would expect to go together.
01:00:12
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um He might throw in a pair of like rose-colored shades. or He likes old lady glasses, too. He's got a lot of like horn rims and whatnot. he kind of looks like He kind of looks like he does most of his shopping at whatever Plato's Closet Stephen Tyler dumps off his old crap at.
01:00:29
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Yeah. I'm just... Not putting it together very well. I feel like he he always he looks a little bit like Wes Scanlon if he just did more drugs.
01:00:43
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I don't know. Who's Wes Scanlon? The singer for Puddle of Mud. Okay.
01:00:49
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Yeah, it sounds about right. Or I should say, not even drugs. Like Wes Scanlon, if Wes Scanlon, he's done a lot of drugs. I've seen a lot of videos of him lately not doing well.
01:01:02
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And I like it. I feel bad for him, but I'm entertained by his downfall. um But it's like if Wes Scanlon got a facelift that went bad, him and Stephen Baldwin would be like twins.
01:01:16
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Here's one. this this is the old This has the best opening line of any of them that I clipped. This is the only thing I'll give him credit for. This is a pretty good opener. Stevie B here with a quick whisper from the ghost. I said, lord Everybody's talking about that Super Bowl. Isn't that something how all that happened and everything came together and the story was this and that and people were like even out of town internationally and all kinds of crazy stuff. I said, Lord, isn't that something? Oh, he came back.
01:01:47
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And do you think all that came together on its own? I said, what do you mean, Lord? Do you think everything with the Super Bowl just happened on its own?
01:01:57
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I said, what do you mean, Lord? He's got a great noise gate.
01:02:06
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Nothing happens by accident. Stop breathing so heavy. Just ask Jim Carrey. This is Stephen Baldwin ASMR, dude. sh What does that mean?
01:02:18
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Just ask Jim Carrey. Nothing happens by accident. Welcome to the Matrix. They they all love the Matrix, dude. but I actually have chills down my spine. I feel like I need to go, like, I want to, like, rake my skin off.
01:02:34
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Stevie B here with a quick whisper from the spirit. he I've seen he's called himself that oh yeah ah do you have the clip of the doge tattoo no I don't have the clip but I don't think it would translate well but you sent me the clip of he he has like a ah symbol of doge or whatever and he's like holding up to his arm and he's Like Stevie B here. Stevie B should get a doge tattoo. Like he's really fucking into doge. I'm surprised he doesn't have a tattoo of like Elon wielding a chainsaw.
01:03:06
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I looked at several of his newer videos and I don't think he went through with it. That's good. Now, he does have another embarrassing tattoo. If he does, i mean, if he needs to get an embarrassing tattoo covered up, I know someone he can go to. Yeah, you ever get Austin, Stevie v Getting a quick whisper from the spirit says you should go get a $160 blindfold
01:03:32
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yeah So there there's a story about him that I i saw where yeah long it's been a while ago, but he was he had met um Miley Cyrus somewhere when she was just young girl, you know, teenager, whatever.
01:03:49
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It was during the Hannah Montana days, and he was telling her about how much he loved. you know, his daughters love Tana Montana, and he would he just wants a cameo on the show so bad. He just asked if he could have a cameo on the show. big you know, it would be a great...
01:04:04
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Which is such a weird thing to do to a little girl. You know, like, yeah. Can you get me onto the show? Like she makes those decisions for Disney and whatnot. And she's some like, I assume in a joking way said, oh yeah, sure. Just get a Hannah Montana tattoo and, and then I'll get you on the show.
01:04:23
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And he did. he has a, he has H ah h M in like a, like a symbol with H M in it, like tattooed on his left shoulder.
01:04:34
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And I bet he never got on the show. He never got on. He was pretty upset about it. I can imagine he's reminded of it every time he doesn't wear a shirt. i I also occasionally forget that his daughter, ah presumably one of the ones that liked Hannah Montana is Haley, who is married to Justin Bieber.
01:04:54
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Yeah. And there's, there's like a whole round of Hollywood gossip about that whole deal. And, She apparently hates c Selena Gomez, and so they have some sort of beef between them, and he weighed in on it at one point. I don't know. It's like, yeah he has a lot of really weird old quotes, and like back in the day, he was on Celebrity Apprentice.
01:05:17
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Oh, wow. And he had some interesting things to say. Let me let me give you... I've got two two clips from back then that are just like, oh man, that's just such like that era of Christian culture.
01:05:31
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Maybe this era too here. have a horrible question for you. Okay. It's in the future. God. You and Kate have had a son. He's five years old.
01:05:45
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Terrorists kidnap you. Oh my God. Question. I'm the terrorist.
01:05:55
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You have a choice.
01:05:58
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I give you a gun. We're going to go away. get you what those fuck kind of thing You kill your son. We'll come back and kill you. or you stay here. yeah Let us take your son.
01:06:13
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We'll kill him. Then we'll come back and kill you. Which do you choose? know I expected
01:06:25
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what What a weird question. Would you kill your son yourself or would you let them kill him? but you know if If terrorists are going to kill your son one way or another.
01:06:37
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What are we talking about? like what yeah There's just not a real reason to weigh that option. like It's not like a philosophical... He thinks he's a really philosophical person. That's what this is. like A lot of his content leads me to believe that he has like this, like, and he believes he's enlightened and that he's seeing the world through a lens that's like different than everybody else. And that he, like when he asks questions like that, it's like, it's real deep.
01:07:10
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Like he thinks that's like, Oh but it's not, that's not engaging with any like deeper philosophical concept about what, about life and death or hard choices. Like,
01:07:24
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Yeah, I would take option one and then I would John Wick my way out of there and save my son. Right. Room to room, you know, three point stance. Boom, boom, boom.
01:07:35
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Headshot, headshot. it's and That's what I would do. what ah Then again, I'm an alpha male. So there's, just comes naturally. Do you think now what was that?
01:07:46
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That was a clip from a first date. is that what you said? That was from when he was on The Apprentice at one point. I don't know who the guy is that he's talking to in it, but they're sitting in like a food court.
01:07:58
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That's so talking about terrorists killing his son. And then ah so here's another really cool quote from him from back then. He came in with a machine gun and pointed it at my daughter yeah and said to my daughter, say Jesus doesn't exist.
01:08:13
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What would she say? She'd say, Jesus absolutely exists, and I'd see her in heaven. Oh, God. My daughter would absolutely suicide by terrorist.
01:08:25
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i
01:08:28
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He probably brings up Columbine a lot. I feel like he has a lot to say about Columbine and that bullshit story that surrounded it. This would have been what, like mid-2000s, late-2000s? Is that when The Apprentice was on?
01:08:42
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Yeah, I think so. So he's still riding off that. Yeah, that's it. He's still got that energy. That question was directly influenced by Columbine. Yeah, nowadays his game is just like, say something cryptic that means absolutely nothing and let people extrapolate. He's a wise old sage, yeah.
01:09:03
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If I say something that doesn't have enough meat, he really he thinks he's like a a guru of some sort. Or like, i um what do you call him? A, uh, yeah, yeah i don't know, like a... A sage?
01:09:17
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Yeah. don't know. There's a guy I was trying to think of. The be-here-now be here now guys Be-here-now. um Ram Dass. He thinks he's like some Ram Dass fucking guy.
01:09:30
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Well, to be fair, he is in direct communication with Holy Ghost. if Hey, y'all. This is very Bob. Sitting around this morning, getting ready to jot down my next big billion dollar idea.
01:09:44
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and as I reached for the pen, Holy Ghost out of nowhere goes. Holy Ghost. What is your focus and purpose?
01:09:52
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And a Holy Ghost baptism. like me entering you I stopped smiling. I said, what's that, Lord? Holy Ghost said.
01:10:04
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What is your focus and purpose? He takes such long pauses. He's an actor. He's very dramatic. At one point, D.D., I saw a clip of him from somewhat recently where somebody asks him, they're talking about actors and stuff, and they ask him about Leonardo DiCaprio, and he goes...
01:10:25
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He goes, hey, look, man, Leo, I think Leo loves the game. I think the problem is he's just not a great actor. What? Yeah.
01:10:38
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got you doing for me He lives in a state of like, that's a state, it's a delusional state. Like he to look at his career and go, i mean, does he play it up to like selling your soul to the devil to get access to the better roles in Hollywood?
01:10:56
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Is that how we like... thinks about his why he's not getting the roles that he thinks he should yeah i mean i think that's a lot of it it's a lot of cryptic things like that like you know he's just too principled to take the bait and stuff like he never directly says much of anything um he says more on podcasts than he does on like these personal videos but like i mean this this kind of sums up like about what the context of most of the things is that he says Good morning, friends.
01:11:30
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Yo. The music. will only explain this one more time. After that, i no explanation will be necessary for obvious reasons.
01:11:47
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In the future, when you call upon me to join you,
01:11:52
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to join you
01:11:57
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I am forbidden. It is not that I don't want to or wish to or any of those things. It is that Holy Ghost has forbidden my ability to do so.
01:12:12
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Why this will happen... Oh my God....will be simply because of the difference between your interpretation and his.
01:12:27
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He said nothing. what does it mean? He doesn't explain any of it. There's not like a next video where he talks about like what he was referring to. There's not a, like a, a description under the video that says in regards to this inquiry, or here's the reason why I can't do big shark versus piranha four.
01:12:48
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ah It's just, there's nothing. It's just, it's just nonsense. It's cryptic nonsense. Do you think he thinks it may, like, do you think he has, in his brain and idea of what he's trying to say. And he just doesn't, he tries to like, tries too hard to sound.
01:13:10
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I just did, don't know, sound intelligent, sound mysterious with it because like, because he has this idea that, you know, God doesn't communicate like such, I mean, not so point blank, like, right. Like I need, like, it's, it's like he read the word, the cryptic words of Jesus when people are like, what is he talking about? And was like, how do I, like, he wants to model his, his like truth tellings after that.
01:13:35
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Um, It could be. I think at the the the the real heart of things is that, you know, Stephen doesn't let himself get bogged down in the details. He's a
Family Dynamics and Public Behavior
01:13:48
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summarized guy, you know?
01:13:50
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Yeah. He's got a big dartboard he's throwing things at. Yeah. And the entire thing is like just the bullseye. It's just a giant bullseye dartboard board.
01:14:02
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And he brags about hitting it dead center. Every time I did check his, I did check his Instagram page. He's got a decent amount of followers.
01:14:14
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Um, he's posting videos of, uh, house shows right now. that was 13 hours ago. ah before that he says, uh, this father's day for just 149 99, get your bum baby daddy tackle DM me for bookings.
01:14:37
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And it's a video of, so that's funny. Yeah. Um, um I don't know. Maybe I'll DM him. Maybe I'll shoot him a DM. if I'm going to assume, like, I always have the idea to DM people after we do an episode about them.
01:14:52
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And I'm like, I need to do it before, right? Because if they listen, if they're like, yeah, let me check this podcast out. And like the first thing they see is just an episode of us just shitting on them relentlessly.
01:15:04
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ah Low is the chances of getting him on, but. He's got a lot of big things going on. ah One thing that I would tell you, though, is you do not want to cross him.
01:15:15
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Okay. He's got Holy Ghost on his side. That's an Instagram lane. I mean, ah TikTok lane for sure is like the squirrely dude who you don't want to cross. his His girlfriend is usually like a 300 pound goth girl.
01:15:32
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Yeah, this is a bit of a typecast. And he's like, looks like he does meth and is probably about like 90 pounds, which is fine. They found love. I'm just saying like that is, ah I see it a lot.
01:15:46
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it It's a thing that happens a lot. Well, Stevie B at least has the decency to give you a fair warning. Hey friends, quick message.
01:15:59
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If you get into my way, no worries. God corrects. Keep in mind.
01:16:10
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If y'all get in my way, no worries.
01:16:17
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God corrects. Have a blessed day. Jesus Christ, dude. Stop loud whispering. I hate it. There's no way his children have a good relationship with him.
01:16:29
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I can't be. I mean, only, the only possible way they do is if they don't follow him on social media. I mean, that's how I maintain a great relationship with a lot of people. It's just not following him on social media, but I don't really know anything about his daughter, but it sounds like there's at least a, some people who think she's strange and maybe a little, uh,
01:16:52
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I don't know. They might have a weird dynamic, her and Justin. i've Yeah, I've heard some of the ah weird dynamic. I don't get too much into like the pop culture stuff like that, but I do have a colleague who does, and we were talking about it just the other week because Justin Bieber's been showing up a lot on the internet, not looking well.
01:17:15
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um Yeah. he He seems to clearly be in the throes of addiction right now. And ah it's not the kind of thing that you can, it's, it's too sad. Like you can't even make, you ah you can't make fun of it like without feeling like a horrible person.
01:17:32
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It looks bad. It looks bad. And it is the prospects are grim. Yeah. And one of my friends pointed out like ah him popping up, not looking great.
01:17:45
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is ah coincidental given all the Diddy shit that's coming out. And then... so some I guess some people have been speculating online that that has might have to do with why he's not doing so well.
01:18:00
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He definitely spent a lot of time with him from a very young age. didn't He spent a lot of time with him. ah Diddy was the one who was like... Yeah, his he was like a mentor to him. I don't know. There's no...
01:18:14
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There's no way some dark shit did not happen to him. They were playing Kanye Cousins. Yeah. Jesus Christ.
01:18:24
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Well, look, if you're in Hollywood, dude, who do you trust? I mean, yeah i think this says it all ah all ah better than i could then I could say it, right?
01:18:36
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it is all of them.
01:18:39
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All of them. ah And not one
01:18:45
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We'll be able to escape.
01:18:52
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No, the the laugh at the end, dude. That was not working for me. Like, two videos before that, he's just he's crying.
01:19:04
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He's looking into the camera with his flat brim on, like, really close up, and he's, like, pushing out tears and just going... It is my honor. It is my honor.
01:19:17
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And that's it. ah There's no description. There's no nothing. There's no context. He never explains it. He just, it's like he's writing like one line at a time of some like crappy screenplay and then acting it out on camera.
01:19:30
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And then it's gone. He, it feels like he, he's like the Joker. If he washed off his makeup and got on a high dose of lithium. yeah Yeah, I think i think he does. You're right. He does have like likes marginally more successful Hickman vibes.
01:19:50
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Yeah, like he's like Bob higging didn't get his CDL and somehow did a role in like, you know. growing pains as the pedophile teacher or whatever.
01:20:01
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And it didn't like looking at, I feel like if I watched, like when I would watch his videos and see his face, like the, the face is so off putting in them that you kind of like, don't feel like you don't, I didn't make the Hickman connection. Cause they don't look anything alike. They're just physically off putting in different ways.
01:20:22
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Um, But to to only hear the voice and like his whispering of like the Holy Ghost, and the Holy Ghost whispered to me, like it's very, it feels like ah like psychosis cousins. You know, there's like a, there's something, it's not the same thing, but they're but maybe their parents fucked or their, you know, fucked their cousins, I mean.
01:20:50
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Yeah, like his face looks like Joan Rivers' elbow skin. ah There's just something not right about it. April pointed out that he has no upper lip, and maybe that's maybe that's a part of it.
01:21:04
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But oh yeah, he ah he's insane, and not in like a very interesting way, just insane.
Hollywood Connections and Speculations
01:21:12
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No, but he has a lot of followers. Candace Cameron Burr follows him.
01:21:17
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They probably have... um attended a Hollywood Bible study together at some point. The, the, like, Angel Network or what what is it? Angel TV? Yeah.
01:21:27
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Angel Network. Angel. Yeah. the The Angel TV thing, like somebody like him all of a sudden kicking off like a Trump Elon beef with them or, you know, Kirk Cameron would be that would be incredible. That would put me in his corner for sure.
01:21:45
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Yeah. He's he's weird. He does not seem like a a a box checker. you know, prim and proper boundary maintenance Christian like Kirk Cameron. Kirk Cameron loves the rules because he loves to decide who's out.
01:22:01
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You know? Yeah. Like this guy has, he's more tapped into the his his personal spiritual connection with God, wherever that may lead. Yeah. Well, probably wherever God tells him, they talk all the time.
01:22:12
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Yeah, they seem pretty close.
Baldwin and Celebrity Interactions
01:22:14
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And speaking of pop journalists and one that's, ah you know, maybe going through a bit of a revival right now, has actually had some like pretty good takes recently.
01:22:24
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um Back in the Apprentice days, and we'll we'll kind of end on this, but ah Pierce Morgan and Stephen Baldwin worked together on some projects.
01:22:35
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Oh, apparently didn't like each other very much, but did work pretty well together. So this is a clip that I i thought this was really funny. And we work very well as a team whilst detesting the very side of each other for most of the day. But it's what I call creative tension between two very different personalities.
01:22:54
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Through all this creative tension comes some brilliant ideas. Seriously, you and I have to start a company together. agree. We'll make trillions. I agree, mate. Crucially, we'd always get stuff done, which you could not say about most of the others. And, Piers, here's the best part. You know what think now, already?
01:23:10
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You and I can get any challenge done between us, right? If you put Lennox and Tito or any other combination, they wouldn't be able to. to That's the truth. I certainly need you in the future for one challenge I have in mind, Piers, and that's for you to give your life to Jesus. You think that day will ever come? I don't believe it, mate.
01:23:28
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You are? Yeah, I'm a Roman Catholic from Ireland. I was educated by a group of nuns in England. So don't start preaching to me, preacher boy. just trying to be nice. I respect him for his faith.
01:23:39
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I respect him for being a born-again Christian. I can just do with less preaching, particularly when the behavior doesn't live up to the preaching. You're suggesting I need to find something. I've always had it there. You're the one whose life is so sickeningly depraved that you had to somehow claw out of the abyss by finding something decent with your life.
01:23:58
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It's always been part of my life. but Good. Yeah. No contest. That was a sick burn.
Humor and Baldwin's Communication Style
01:24:08
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Oh my God.
01:24:10
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That makes me almost want to go back and watch it. I feel like that would be hilarious to watch those two duke it out. Dude, the funniest thing was that video. I found it randomly on YouTube and it the caption was Stephen Baldwin shares the gospel on Celebrity Apprentice.
01:24:25
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No way. YouTube titles are incredibly misleading. They're so bad. yeah oh man so yeah stephen baldwin sucks i actually you know what i got a clip for that too
01:24:43
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we haven't hit that one in a while yeah it's like you forget you got a soundboard on your side i know i have a hard time like like uh jostling it in all the time but once in a while So, yeah, if ah I would, I would, I don't know. I'm i'm really hoping that Steven's brain continues to deteriorate and that maybe we get some better sound clips out of it. Maybe something that ties into something instead of just, you know, ominous nothing. Like stay on a topic for a second and make a point. Like, I think he forgets.
01:25:20
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I do think he's forgetting where he's going when he starts the video. Like, I think he had an idea. of where he wanted to end up and he gets like, i don't know, maybe um i get it.
01:25:31
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It's like when a lot of when someone's talking to you and you're trying to say something to other people, it's tough ah to not get like distracted by it. Just like, and and he's trying to communicate these solid messages, but the Holy ghost will not stop.
01:25:46
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The Holy ghost does not stop talking to this man. And I think it just gets him a little bit sidetracked. He just needs to get ah know a better you used to filter it out better um and just kind of hone in his ability to stay on point, ah to to redirect and and communicate what the Holy Ghost is trying to say to him.
01:26:06
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Yeah, maybe the Holy Ghost could, I don't know, give him some more impactful directives. Like the next time he's discussing something with Kirk Cameron, just like Holy Ghost be like... Put your finger just in his mouth. o you know just Just put two fingers like right to the back of his throat.
01:26:21
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Yeah.
01:26:26
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Curl it and then pretend you've like caught him like you're like you're a fish on a hook. You just kind of tug and tug and tug and see how far you can drag him. Yeah. Like I got your nose, but draw blood.
01:26:37
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Yeah. Yeah.
01:26:41
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Oh, boy. Yeah. Well, yeah, so I think that's the show for this week. Thank you guys for listening, and we will see you next time.