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Season 5- Episode 7- Where From Here? (Rugby World Cup Round 1 & Premiership Round 5)
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On this busy pod episode, we cover a ton of things. The simple question is, where do we go from here? With Wasps being suspended and going into administration, we discuss things to be done both short and long term (and we don't even cover the tip of the ice burg really). With happier things, we are so happy to be talking about World Cup rugby and we take a look at the opening matches in New Zealand including the feature match at Eden Park, the Eagles and the wild finish between Wales and Scotland. All this and of course much more, grab a cold one to drink and join us!
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Transcript
Introduction & Humor
00:00:02
Speaker
It is... The Fantasy Europeans. My name is Jared Dyke. I wanted to say it's stupid and let's move on, but then you kept going. I'm Ben Glauser. I don't like any way anybody gambled that. Collusion! Collusion!
Is Rugby the Focus Today?
00:00:27
Speaker
Hello, everybody. Welcome back. It is the Fancy Rugby Yanks. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauser. Welcome in.
00:00:34
Speaker
Yeah, nothing to talk about today at all, nothing to talk about. No, nothing too interesting happening, kind of a boring time in rugby. Boring weekend, boring week. Right. Nothing at all to talk about. Shit, we're going to fly through this as much as possible. We are. Yeah, premiership might be taking a backseat today. It's really, except for the discussion about... Yeah, so we'll get to that, but like the fuck, the actual rugby is probably going to take a backseat and... Yeah. Sorry, we're not going to cover everything. I'm cracking my beer.
00:01:02
Speaker
Okay. Um, I am not bearing because I'm coaching a coach, uh, but obviously download rate review, share on your favorite app. Feedback, always welcome. Good. All right. Good stuff.
00:01:16
Speaker
In addition, um, in addition to beer, um, my beer, uh, by our good friend, fancy rugby geek, George, the him, uh, have a coffee slash beer, however you want to call it. Um, how much appreciate it. Cause things I think are about to get really weird in the next few weeks after this coming weekend, uh, in terms of fancy stuff. So grab onto your seats and, um, keep your ears, ears pinned to the ground, especially for what he's got to say. So give him a, give him some help. Mm-hmm.
00:01:47
Speaker
For sure.
LA City Council Racism Scandal
00:01:50
Speaker
There is no discrimination here on this podcast, nor should there be in life or in sports.
00:01:55
Speaker
We had, um, yeah, there is, there is, and there's a lot of things we can pick out for this week as well, especially like the Yates report the other week. Um, uh, a little bit of a fucking bullshit going on on Twitter about women referees. Well, yeah, it's on that too. Something more local for Ben and I, well, not local, but, um, state side, at least is, um, the happenings at the LA city council and.
00:02:24
Speaker
People being found out that probably didn't want to be found out. Nobody wants to be found out. Certainly. Yeah. In these terms, definitely not. Yeah. Well, one of them was in line. So Dianne Feinstein is one of the senators from California. And one of these people is like, oh, you have a free Jack's beer. Nice. Jealous. Found that.
00:02:45
Speaker
But one of these people is basically in line, because you know how these things work, in line to replace her. And just a whole this recording came out of basically a bunch of city council members being incredibly racist, including minority members. It's it's. It's fucking twenty, twenty two, and these are in. L.A. is obviously, you know, it's in California, it's a city, so it's pretty solidly Democrat.
00:03:13
Speaker
And yet these are Democrats that are supposedly the good guys. As Jared and I were saying, you could maybe count on one hand the number of Republicans who aren't like this, although you probably wouldn't need many fingers in that. But Democrats are supposed to be the team that's not like that, that doesn't work.
00:03:34
Speaker
anti-racist and trying to build a better future for everyone. And yet here we are in 2022 with people actively working again, you know, for racist causes against their own constituents just based on race. And yeah, it's disgusting. Blat out. And they're starting to resign. And yeah, they're starting to resign. And that's good. But come the fuck on.
00:04:00
Speaker
And there's another like, I think one of the counselors there, they work for like the press office or something like that with the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department, and if you don't know about the LA Sheriff's Department, literally one of the largest and most dangerous armed gangs in the US.
00:04:25
Speaker
Like it's pretty terrifying. Yeah, they are. They are. They are. They are basically gangs. Like they they will go in and then, you know, beat up citizens and and worse because they can. And it's like, you know, of course, you know, people like that would be supporting them, too, because, you know, that's that's all that they do. Yeah. It's just such a shitty situation when, you know, citizens really can't vote for people who
00:04:53
Speaker
aren't racist, but there's no way to vote for him. You know, if you vote for a Republican, you're voting for a racist, or at least someone who will cater to racism. You know, if the whole, there should be a, you know, some organization that you can vote for that will not be like that. Oh, yeah, that's, yeah, it's no one. It's pretty shitty. It's pretty shite. So yeah, don't do that. We're against that. Yeah, no, don't be a racist brick. Right.
00:05:25
Speaker
less depressing, um, our Patrion slightly, slightly less depressing. We have other depressing things to get to. Yeah. Slightly, slightly less depressing is our Patrion. Uh, boom bust is up for the week. I'm working on the, um, the rankings. Um, I actually might have them out tomorrow. So we'll see. We'll see what happens here. I have all kinds of time for the sheet tomorrow. So hopefully I can get something going with all kinds of time. The scoring thing. Yeah. We'll get something up. So there's no, there's not a lack of data anymore.
00:05:55
Speaker
Right. Uh, we have the data. We just got to process it all. Yeah. I got it for those people. The thing that does all that and been busy between traveling to London and having a dude's weekend out in Western mass this past weekend.
Financial Troubles in Rugby: Wasps & Worcester
00:06:11
Speaker
I have so many comments for that, but I'm not gonna say anything. I'm gonna keep it under my hat. All right. Well, just a couple of guys broing out in the woods in a cabin. I know. And there's no judgment on that. You can do whatever you want out there. I don't care. That is your business. That is your business, and I have zero judgment on that, but I just don't want to make comments just because I can post one of you. That's all. Anyway.
00:06:38
Speaker
Let's get into the really unfortunate shit, which is this happened in a matter of.
00:06:43
Speaker
It felt a lot faster than Worcester, but Wasp being suspended. Maybe we were just so focused on Worcester that we didn't necessarily think about Wasp having this happen. We'd heard rumblings about Wasp being problematic and that might go into administration, but there wasn't anything about potential suspension by the prem. So that was kind of a shock. We were kind of hoping that if they want to do administration, it would be something that they could resolve fairly quickly.
00:07:12
Speaker
and it'll be over. Instead, they're just flat out suspended. Yep. And wow, that kicked up a notch. Yeah, that turned ugly fast. Real, real ugly fast. And it now now leaves us in a really shitty situation for a lot of reasons. The prem has to and there's been all sorts of rumblings now from from major English rugby, you know,
00:07:42
Speaker
I don't know how else to describe it, but like people, because they're like, they've been around, they might not be active, but like personalities. Yeah. Um, and influencers and whatnot, like sort your shit out. Yeah. And they just seem so, they see, so, see, see, seems so unwilling to sort it out too, which is like you, yeah.
00:08:06
Speaker
Yeah, you have to figure that you can't allow that like this is bad. You know, it's funny how we thought that the issues in MLR this past season.
00:08:17
Speaker
Um, which we did end up discussing, uh, it would think they did the lads over in, in the UK, which was funny. Um, now like pale in comparison to what's going on on the prem here. Cause fuck balls. They're just like, you know, they, they need to have a different governing body than the RFU. If, if, if the, um, you know, if RFU is really just focused on the, you know, growing the game at the grassroots level, if you want to do that and, and like, obviously producing the national team, but.
00:08:47
Speaker
professional side, including the national team, needs to have something that works better than this. They got to centralize things so that there are open books and that teams that need help can get help before it gets to this. Then we get into the salary cap issue.
00:09:19
Speaker
We kind of talked about it in our group chat too, for the CYL. Look at all these signings that these clubs are making. Is it to make their product better or is it just to say, hey, we signed somebody? Wasp signed two tight heads from probably large deals because Vincent Cock might be the best tight head in the world or he's certainly up there in the conversation. And John Ryan, he's older, but he's no slouch. No.
00:09:46
Speaker
And they did they really need a tight head prop, or did they need like, you know, sent and they got Odin, Odin doll but still, there's so much more that they needed and probably could or just didn't you know they could have not spent that money and maybe that would have helped them reinvested into somebody, somebody else, you know, right.
00:10:06
Speaker
not let somebody walk. Grand, they have some
Rugby Club Management Critique
00:10:10
Speaker
players that probably could have afforded to walk, but point being, you can reinvest it into somebody else, or you can extend a deal to someone. You get a lot of really young talent.
00:10:23
Speaker
There's a plethora of young talent throughout the whole entire league. And I would suggest at this point, at the bare minimum, these clubs need to go reinvest into those players. Sign these players to longer term deals to one, keep them in the league and two, keep them on their team and that'll pay off more in spades for
00:10:44
Speaker
this league itself than signing, you know, a John Ryan, right? And I'm not trying to shit on John Ryan. He's a great player. He's a quality player. Um, did he necessary though? Did he need to come here? I don't know. Right. No, thanks. I don't think he needed to be there. I think he could have gone to a number of places really. Uh, and I don't, and like you said, I don't think was needed him. Uh, and as we were talking about with
00:11:13
Speaker
How to run a club and there's a difference between. Running a club into extinction like like was potentially have or and and running a club like new castle where they don't spend anywhere near the cap because.
00:11:30
Speaker
financially, it doesn't make any sense for them specifically. And I'm okay with staying within yourself and all that stuff, but there is a line between the two of them. And, you know, I don't want to see us go lean so much that, you know, it's bare bones talent over, you know, there's no, it's not one end of the other. There's, there's a middle, but there's plenty of talent available.
00:11:52
Speaker
Like, even if, I mean, you know, sick with wasps, look at, you know, frost, you know, they, they pull him up, you know, for like the, as a hooker, cause they kind of have to, and he just goes on a rampage, Archer style and rampage. Like there's, there's plenty of talent available and they're just not, they're not getting developed properly in some ways, but you know, there's,
00:12:18
Speaker
There's there's you know, look and look at Worcester with all their talent and that's not you know that was because the you know, not so much the the Administration owners being shitheads, but the talent that they have the young talent that they have and you know that that's why I always consider that more of a coaching failure than anything but they're just running out player after player after player like how who signed with the Saturday is like a try scoring machine but can barely see the field every time he plays he goes off and
00:12:48
Speaker
And yet you can barely see the field. Like there's, there is talent out there. If you're smart and can work towards getting it instead of looking at a name and being like, Ooh, I like that big shiny thing. Like manage your clothes better. Right. And exit or approved it. Right. A couple of years ago. And as much as I'm loath to give credit to Exeter, they, they want a pretty shit budget.
00:13:12
Speaker
Um, but even they're guilty of that, right?
USA Rugby Players: Fitness & Skills Gap
00:13:14
Speaker
Like they still, they're still playing Noel and, and Ian Whitten when they have, you know, like Hendrickson and, um, who is that? Yeah. Like, uh, they have, uh, who's that way here? Hodge. Like they've got guys out there that just don't see the field who could be start, you know, should be starting. And so there's, there's plenty of depth. You don't need a big name because ultimately the product won't make much of a difference.
00:13:41
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, there's no product when you can't put a club on the field, when you can't survive as a club. So I think that's the one thing to kind of remember in a lot of situations with this.
00:13:53
Speaker
Yeah, back to Worcester, like I think Finn Smith was one of the smartest signings that Saints have ever had. He is going to replace Dan Bigger going forward and with their coaching staff and the way they like to play. And you know, he was, he, I listened to the interview he had, they had about a five minute interview with him on their website and I listened to it and he's excited.
00:14:16
Speaker
to go and learn and, you know, learn how to play this attacking saints rugby that they've been doing because number one, it's what the world wants for the most part with the exception of the weird few and far between and that's fine. We'll leave them be.
00:14:32
Speaker
And he's and he's they've shown that they can develop talent. Saint are another club that's got bags of talent and a lot of it they've developed. Yes, they've signed some and there's no ignoring that. Right. But they they've still got bags of talent and their back line is like absurd. Like, yeah, they they have bigger and that's OK. But like other than that, who's their big, like, you know, what truck Augustus? And he was like.
00:15:02
Speaker
He was not a, he was not a big name that people were talking about when he came in. Right. Then, you know, they, they try to bring in some, some players from Australia and this and that. And that's, that's always kind of cool, but they're complimentary. They're not like, Hey, we're going to rely on you and make you the centerpiece of art. And they can still throw the ball around and.
00:15:20
Speaker
and do amazing things. So it's like these other clubs, and that's the other thing is,
Premiership Rugby Website Issues
00:15:24
Speaker
I'm kind of surprised at Wasp that they're struggling because Wasp's games are box office. They're a lot of fun, at least this year. Right, and they have been for quite a bit. They have too, yes. So it's like, why are you struggling to fill that arena?
00:15:43
Speaker
You know, I'm what we're, we both kind of probably too big saints on right now. And, and there's like nobody there. And it doesn't look great match. It doesn't look good there. The problem was, I mean, the problems, a lot of things going on with the arena itself. And I, I know, I know the.
00:16:03
Speaker
in the most basic terms, as I understand it, they did a lot of pissing off of the locals with the way they went about getting that arena under them, and that didn't do them any favors. And when the pandemic hit, because they were giving away tickets, and that's fine. I have no problem with a few tickets to give away. That does you a lot of good in a lot of ways, but once the pandemic hit,
00:16:28
Speaker
Obviously, they could no longer give those away because it didn't financially make sense, certainly to not the same extent they were giving them. Then that obviously leads to a much less-filled arena. You got to put butts in seats.
00:16:49
Speaker
in an arena that is appropriate size for you. And, you know, we saw, we, we saw an example and in person with Holiquins, like fairly packed out stadium, not a time, not overly, you know, big in, in a number of seats that are available, but packed out or packed out stadium. And that was a fun atmosphere. It was. And,
00:17:16
Speaker
anything like that beats the hell out of, you know, this, this, you know, the CBS arena where they probably have a good number of people in it, but it looks half empty. You know, it's no good. Anything like that's no good. So we,
00:17:35
Speaker
It's, it, there's a many prong attack to, to go with this whole thing between how to take care of rugby in general, um, this league specifically, and then club by club. And it's, it's, it starts with getting, and for me and one more note, and then we'll move on. Um, cause we could, we could go at this for a good two hours, probably if we wanted to, um, for me.
00:18:04
Speaker
people like Massey Taylor. I'm not impressed with he's a puppet at this point, right? Well, I don't know if he's a puppet or just fucking a Muppet. Yeah, maybe maybe both. I don't know. But I'm not impressed with him. So if he's going to be your face, you need to sharpen it up a little bit. And a name that a few of us know at this point, what's his name? Paul Morgan, whatever his name is.
00:18:27
Speaker
He's got to go. He's useless. He's useless. He did. He, that is the, in terms of like who interacts with people when it comes to social media stuff, especially, that is not a friendly face right now. I see that name and I'm like, Oh, what does this idiot say? And I know there's others that feel that way too. So he's got to go. Like whatever, whatever pictures he has, that's preventing people from firing him, just deal with it and fire him. Okay.
00:18:58
Speaker
because you know what the people who's got pictures of need to bite the bullet because they got to go to so maybe they should go to so everybody goes out with that one on the sweep there needs to be better leadership of the the prem the RFU everybody involved like do better the game needs the game needs it
00:19:22
Speaker
Mullins or Ali Eakin that said something about like we need leadership now and I and I totally agree with that And I don't see either one of them as leaders. So they know maybe that's my biggest problem with both of them. Yeah So who who and who similar Well, but hopefully things in the end do find a way to work out for wasp and we know that We've got
00:19:52
Speaker
fixtures to move around now because, you know, I was just looking at I was just looking at him earlier. So at this point, Gloucester have two official games right now that they'll be down for. Because if assuming was get removed from the schedule, London Irish have three official games. The only team that's played five, all five and we'll have them count is Leicester.
00:20:19
Speaker
right now. Everybody else has played four for one reason or another, whether they played Worcester already, they've played wasp, right? Or they have the actual body. Yeah. So after this weekend is too late to fix it, obviously, but I don't want to be the people that are inside that office that have to reject that. And then we have champions cup and challenge cup that need to be rejected because these clubs were in that competition. And I would assume that they're not participating in that. So.
00:20:47
Speaker
I also think this another and this is a whole another can of worms to open another day with was leaving and was sir Worcester being sent down and was being sent down. I think this brings about another time where we need to maybe we look at the Champions Cup format and go back to the old one. And I have I know it's
00:21:09
Speaker
There's a lot of things that the current one brings that are good, but there's a lot of stuff that's bad. And right now it doesn't work with the number of teams the Premiership has. So you can't have eight teams out of a 11 team league going to Champions Cup.
00:21:24
Speaker
That really, that really doesn't work. No, you're going to end up with three. You're going to end up with two really crappy teams, more than likely. So it's, it's no good. So yeah, that's just my thoughts on, on that as well. Again, big can of worms to open on that one. We won't attack that today.
00:21:43
Speaker
Not today. Not today, Satan. Okay. Oh man. Let's go to something way better. Way, way, way, way, way better. And well, I guess depends on who you are, but, uh, opening weekend of the rugby world cup, which is without a doubt, except the most exciting thing. Um, one note that somebody had and I thought was actually a really good
00:22:11
Speaker
for people to kind of just remember,
Rugby World Cup Excitement & Player Behavior
00:22:13
Speaker
there was one HIA this weekend. Right. One. Just one. One. So behavior can be changed. It's just a matter of how dumb are you and how bad of a coach are you? You know? Yeah. Really is. And no shortage of hard hits. I mean... Oh, no. Some girls got melted. Falls just wreck. And that France-South Africa match was just brutal. Like that...
00:22:40
Speaker
I mean, I guess we can start there because that was the first match. That's the first match. Just like South Africa playing very South African rugby.
00:22:53
Speaker
Yeah, that France obviously kind of outclass them, but that's because, you know, South Africa are building, but they have that they have that South African power down. That's that's for sure. Yes, that that is unquestionable at this point. I would say aggression is there. So I mean, but France were just.
00:23:16
Speaker
dangerous all over the place. Just the speed, the power when they needed it, like just really played that game very well. Yeah, the French scrum half senses just like. Yep. Otherworldly right now compared to a lot of people. So speaking of the French team, though, there was I think it was World Rugby magazine or something like that.
00:23:44
Speaker
whatever it was, they were, they put out a 15 of the week and it had no French players. It had one American and it had one South African player. I was like, I don't think you know what you're doing. Yeah. I really don't think you know what you're doing now because that's pretty bad. Right.
00:24:04
Speaker
But in any case, they played well. Yes. Obviously, since he's played well, Caroline Duran was was fantastic. Yeah. What else are you going to say? Like, but I think that's also kind of a credit to South Africa for. You know, the defending as well as they did, I mean, I know it's a forty point forty to five match, but this could have been double that.
00:24:30
Speaker
if South Africa were really unprepared and didn't play the type of defense that they did. So yeah, well, credit to South Africa for really kind of stifling
00:24:45
Speaker
France's attack. This was interesting up until 10 minutes to go. Right. Right. That's when it kind of teleported. I will say this was interesting because the second half came on and I was like, all right, the first team to score has got to be the South Africans. And if this game is going to stay interesting, and it was,
00:25:05
Speaker
But the quality and the depth and, you know, just the experience of France eventually overtook them in those last two minutes, and Durand and Grusรฉ both got over, and that was the end. It's like, yeah, and there goes that.
00:25:22
Speaker
It's a good, it's a good showing for South Africa in a lot of ways, uh, makes, makes teams probably not want to play them, you know, certainly not excited to play them just cause that physicality beats you up very, very much. So it does. Um, it does take a toll, but it's, uh, it's, it's growing. So we, we like growing always good. Um, but yes, France are quality and, uh, to say, and we, we expect them in the knockout unquestionably. Yeah.
00:25:54
Speaker
Yeah. Speaking of expecting to go to the knockout England and Fiji, we won't spend too much time on this. The first half was interesting because the Fijians were able to take, take advantage of a couple of opportunities and dot down and 24 14 at half is certainly respectable. And somebody said that like, this is only what Fiji six test match together or something like that. I was like, holy shit. No wonder they're going to get in. Yeah. Of course they got pumped afterwards. I was like, duh.
00:26:22
Speaker
kind of, yeah, it fell apart. They could only stay in it for so long. And they, I mean, their athleticism, their ball movement was excellent. It's just that England are that good. Yes. I mean, put it this way, and we'll get to the US in a bit. Like both of these losing teams that we've talked about already, Fiji and South Africa, I really wouldn't be comfortable if the Eagles are playing them.
00:26:46
Speaker
No, for their own, for their own different reasons. Yes. Right. I agree. Because holy cow, where they were Fiji dangerous. But just it was the class of England that just made it look that, you know. Yeah. And this was.
00:27:04
Speaker
And you could see what the Fijians were going for and the passes, and they're playing their very own way, which was great. A lot of these women played for the Fijian team in Super W as well, so that's good. Or they played for the Fijian sevens team, which is also good. So there are some, to say there's no experience here is wrong, but obviously the gap is still very big between England and Fiji, but they tried to stay true to their identity, which is something I really, really appreciate.
00:27:32
Speaker
The more they do it, the more matches they get with this, with the together, the more those fun passes are going to stick. And then that's going to turn into some real, real fun stuff to watch. So I, I can only hope that that comes through. Um, in the end, of course, be remiss if we didn't say how great it was to see Abby Dow score a try. Oh God. Yes. God. Yes. Thank God. I was, you know, when talk about a race against time.
00:27:59
Speaker
with her and the leg break and oof. It was like, ooh, she's back. She's ready. Like, that's, that's awesome. Yes. Yeah. I couldn't have been happier for her cause Claudia McDonald did okay. Oh God. Was it four or five or four? Sheesh. Yeah. Oh yeah. One more right. Right near the end.
00:28:20
Speaker
Right. Yep. This became a kind of a meaningless exercise after a certain point. I think it was around the 60th minute. I was like, this game's over. I started doing mine. I mean, it was over before that. Yeah. It was kind of like.
00:28:39
Speaker
Yeah, after the second try or so in the second half, it was like, no, this is over. Yeah. I started making breakfast and just kind of had this on in the background. After that, I was like, it's breakfast time. And then the match of the day, unquestionably, I would say, and the score line does not do it justice. The wall of ruse and the black ferns and
00:29:07
Speaker
What an atmosphere. Yes. What an atmosphere. It was at Eden Park for this game. It was awesome to see this go on. And that, yeah, the hawk of the black ferns laid down was phenomenal and the crowd reaction. That was a, that was like fucking serious business right there. It was
00:29:32
Speaker
It sends shivers down one spine, right? Yeah, just.
00:29:39
Speaker
Like the whole that right from the start I was I was in I was watching this you know, I'm trying to do work, but at the same time Stop for this haka and then you know just to you know see and then I was like There's no there's no getting away from this now
00:30:05
Speaker
And Australia just coming out the seven, you know, 17 straight points. No backing down from from Australia. Just just send me, you know, that was a hell of a response to that kind of hockey, too. Like we're coming out fire and scoring, you know, 13 and 16 minutes in like.
00:30:27
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. They showed me a lot too. And this was their third time playing these, this team in the inside of about two months. Yeah. So, you know, they kind of know it was coming, but, um, yeah, it's one thing to, to kind of know what to expect. It's another to, to score that, you know, 17th street on New Zealand is not an easy feat. Um, you know, on any, any New Zealand team, um,
00:30:50
Speaker
Right. And then I noticed it really was the two yellows in the one sequence that I think was the game. Definitely. That was about it. And even before that, I noticed so I was noticing like New Zealand was trying that tip on and it just wasn't coming off.
00:31:07
Speaker
And shortly, I think it was shortly after the seven, the second or the third tribe went over, they decided, all right, let's conserve for just a little bit. And they stopped doing the tip on for just about 10 minutes or so. And they started to get a better platform. They started to go forward more. They started to get better ball and quicker ball. And then they started to open that back up again, which I thought was a good tactic change for them in that 10 minutes or so. So whether that was down to the coaches or the captains, either way, um, very good stuff from them. And then.
00:31:38
Speaker
Ruby Tooey. I hear books on my porch. I can't wait to cut into it. It's going to be great. If there's someone you can cheer for,
00:31:54
Speaker
It's got to be her because she's just such a great, and we, and we talk about rugby being in trouble and stuff like that. It's personalities like her that we need to push to the front and certainly put her out there and, you know, make her a thing if you want, because she's a superstar to those of us that watch the game, but she's not a superstar in the world and she could be. Right. And all you have to do is listen to her. Like, you know, it,
00:32:22
Speaker
Take a cue from professional wrestling, interviews matter, and be in that personality, be in that willing to go and be open and honest and positive and excited. All those things, that's infectious. Excitement and enthusiasm are infectious, and she has both of those, and can project it really well. Some people have that enthusiasm,
00:32:51
Speaker
and can't pull it off as far as expressing it to others and making it kind of coherent, because like a Ray Lewis type, who has a lot of enthusiasm, but what the fuck did he just say? It never makes sense when he comes out. No. Can you repeat that? I have no idea what you just said. Right. And then there's plenty of people who can talk a lot and present themselves well, but have zero enthusiasm. You need people like
00:33:17
Speaker
Ruby Tui who had that who have both and and bring that engagement because you can't help but smile when she's when she's talking about the sport and talking about the game. Yeah, and her love for her teammates her country is just so obvious and you know the impassioned anthems of all the countries this past weekend was just so great to see and that this is test level rugby at its finest and this is exactly what we got and it's just
00:33:45
Speaker
And I think we both are fawning over Stacey Flueller in person is really what inspired her. She looked a little scary during that hockey. She did, holy shit. I showed it to the high school girls when they were all just like, oh my God. I'm like, I've met her. She's actually not that crazy, but she looks pretty busy here. I was like, I'd met her. She's actually very nice. That looks very scary.
00:34:11
Speaker
Uh, love it. The intensity, the intensity, man. That's, and that's, that's what it is required going to be for them, especially for the black ferns, it is going to require some serious intensity for them to go all the way to the final and potentially, you know, win a home world cup. So yeah, a lot of pressure on them and you know, they're going to, they're going to need that intensity. So got to love it from the players. And it's, uh, it, this was two things. One, New Zealand.
00:34:40
Speaker
Might be back. We don't know yet, but they they certainly put their hand up again appear to be in Australia or somebody to be taking very, very seriously going forward. So just everybody hold on to your hats. Who is going to get real rocky real quick? I have a feeling. And then Sunday. Oh. Oh. This is.
00:35:08
Speaker
frustration at the minimum for me. I have two issues, personnel-wise, with the US. Obviously, we're talking about US and Italy. First game from Sunday. I have two issues, personnel-wise. One is Nicky James.
00:35:29
Speaker
not doing it for me I don't and I don't get what the commentators are saying I'm like nope like the Scrum penalty that Hope Rogers won I was like nope that was all Hope Rogers I don't know what the fuck you guys are talking about and Rob Kane saying she's such a great Scrumager I was like mm-hmm she's shit she's garbage she's garbage there was there's another time where she just like
00:35:49
Speaker
She was in she was the clear support in a run and like kind of stood there while the tackle was made and saw that. And then the opposition just comes in and takes it and she's like, oh, I guess it's my turn to rock. And it's like, you know, they're on it before way too slow. She's just standing there watching it. And I'm like, you like I get it. They're big. Right. But you look at them again, I think I'm sure I've said it before. You look at the props who are on like the other teams.
00:36:17
Speaker
And they're much more fit. They're much more effective. They don't get their ball stripped by wings. Hope Rogers. They like. They play rugby. These are just fucking like the U.S. team is a bunch of gym rats who happen to play on a field with a rugby ball. Hmm.
00:36:37
Speaker
Like I get hope Rogers and Nick James are strong and they're not very fit. The rest of the team is, is kind of strong and fit, but doesn't know what the fuck they're doing with a rugby ball at all. Like, and that was like, you look at that and that was the difference in this match is that Italy, we're, we're able to move the ball around and play open, you know, support them, you know, their, their players in open field, like, you know, run a switch line, but then be in support if it's a dummy instead of just being like, Oh, they didn't get the ball. But so I'm just going to stop and kind of.
00:37:07
Speaker
not sure, you know, thumb up my ass kind of thing. Like it's too, yeah. There's got to be better coaching at this level. And it's just not happening. And with all that, with all that, this match still could have been different if a Lev Kelter had the tee. Debbie Cantona should not have the tee. Period. End of story. She missed one right in front.
00:37:35
Speaker
right in front and that would have given us the lead the second time and who knows what at that point and obviously Italy still scored plenty of more points but it still can change the game something like that you know it's it's a mental thing so you know if you can't even hit a penalty kick right in front or you know whatever a kick from right in front
00:37:56
Speaker
The other team is like, oh cool, we can do whatever the fuck we want. We can get penalties and we don't have to worry about you hurting us that way. Whereas all of a sudden you hit a kick that's moderately difficult. And suddenly the other team has to be like, okay, now we have to think about what we're doing because we can't be stupid. It'll hurt us. Absolutely. Here's the thing. If you bring a backup hooker,
00:38:25
Speaker
to an international World Cup tournament, and your starting hooker is shit, and I'm sorry, Kitzlinski couldn't fucking hit a throw to save her life by one or two. You need to make that call and say, all right, I'm bringing on my backup. If you don't have the confidence in it, what the fuck are you doing with that person there?
00:38:45
Speaker
or why aren't you coaching better? One of those two things is true. Maybe both, I don't know. So that was a real annoyance for me. How trader didn't see the field, how test fury didn't see the field. I don't understand that. And we did talk about, we talked about Kelter being a 15 rather than a 13 where she should be.
00:39:07
Speaker
I can live with that, but all those other things being altered, I think the match is different. I think like she did get the ball more from 50. I think she was more involved in attack, but not it still was a little bit forced and she was going from way too deep.
00:39:23
Speaker
stick have to come on to it and uh when you don't have much attack like you need your attacking players to to be around the ball i thought so for the u.s i thought the entire back row was good um jacoby when she came on she was she had energy she was fucking busy so i love to see that somebody i harped on before but i think
00:39:48
Speaker
She either listens to me or somebody got to her. Olivia Ortiz's footwork was much better as I noticed it, like got it and got rid of it. I was like, all right, that's what I've been waiting for for you. So now I at least feel confident that we have two quality nines. So that's not a problem for me. And on the flip side,
00:40:05
Speaker
I don't want to completely ignore the Izuri because they did play a hell of a match. They had to make a late change and they had an early, early injury and they responded extremely well to the whole thing. And Franco was the fucking, yeah, she was annoying.
00:40:22
Speaker
Let's just say the least. I was like that. And I was like, oh, it's her again. It's her again. Fuck. Yeah. Every time, every freaking time. Quality seven right there. Yeah. Super, super duper. Solari, I thought was great at the outside 13 channel there. I thought she was great and she was good off the tee on top of it, which helped. Yeah. So Italians rightfully won this match. No, no question in my mind. There was, yeah, there's a lot missing from, from the US team.
00:40:52
Speaker
I'm actually still scared of what the hell is going to happen with the Japan match this weekend. I really am and that's not awesome. That's before we get to Canada. Yeah, there's still that part. As I understand it, it might be, it might not be. It's one through eight.
00:41:13
Speaker
And I think they just see them like the top three, they'll see the three pool winners. They'll see the three runners up and then the final two third place finish, best first third place finishers. So if you're the US, I think it's really fair to say the likelihood is one and two are going to be England and New Zealand, whatever order that is, whatever.
00:41:39
Speaker
If you're one of those two third place teams, that's who you're getting in the quarterfinals. So if that's how it's laid out, which I think it likely is, I want to avoid that third place spot right now. Okay. Right now we're technically holding one of them. I'd like to hold on a runner runner's up spot at best. So, you know, or at worst, I should say. And hopefully somehow we can still win the goddamn group. I have no idea what that looks like.
00:42:05
Speaker
First things first take care of Japan and then figure it out from there. Yeah, but yeah, so as Italy putting their hand up again shocker Shocker of the day. Yeah, let's go to Canada now Japan in Canada This might flatter Japan a little bit actually I think Canada missed some opportunities if I'm honest
00:42:27
Speaker
I couldn't get to see this one or the next one. I did and I thought the Canadian women looked superb and there comes a point where
00:42:41
Speaker
The speed is great, but if you don't have the strength to go with it, you can fold over. And I think Canada figured that out early, or at least to a point, and they used it well. That's always been a thing for, well, that has long been a thing for Japan. It's getting better now, at least for the men's side. The women obviously have a little room to catch up.
00:43:06
Speaker
Right. And they, they, I appreciate that they tried to, they do try and play a similar style. They want to play some fast stuff. They want, they want to play open, but you have to have the physicality on defense to match it. And also at the contact area, at the, at the, you know, the breakdown area, you have to be able to match that as well. Uh, didn't have it in my opinion, in, in any means whatsoever. And yeah, the, the Canadian women just figured it all out. Um, Sophie is good. She's very good.
00:43:37
Speaker
And Tootosie had, what, the hat trick in 50 minutes. Were those all mall tries or were they? One of them was not. One of them was not. The other two were. So she did have one open field one. And she did look generally good overall. So I'll give her that. Yeah, Canada scares me right now. And I know we beat them in a little bit over the summer.
00:44:00
Speaker
but I'm now like seeing what I've seen out of all teams in recent weeks, scares me a bit. Just gotta say that. So I think, yeah, hopefully we don't have to dive too much further into something, anything about Rob Kane and we can beat Japan as the Eagles could beat the Japanese, but yeah, I'm still terrified. I'm still terrified.
00:44:29
Speaker
And then we go to the match of the weekend, unquestionably in my mind, which was Wells in Scotland and Wells had a whole three points in the second half, but it was, it was at the right time and in the right place. Oh man. This, this was intense. This was so tense right down to the wire. Uh, jazz Joyce got a yellow card at the end of the game that, that hurt him. Um,
00:44:55
Speaker
Trying to think of who the other yellow card went to, but either way, it was like, oh, yes. Yes. That's who it was. Oh yeah. Cause it was, I think it was a scrum penalty that she kept giving away. So it was no good. It looked great. All rosy for, for Wales first half. No problems. Smooth sailing. Scotland kind of just couldn't get out of their own way. And then the Scots woke up and the players that set up for this, for the Scotland team were.
00:45:25
Speaker
Names that you and I know quite well, and I hope more people now know them, but Conkle, Bonner, Malcolm, Skeldon, I thought Skeldon played terrific, a terrific match. Chloe Rawley, Ronald Lloyd, Gaffney, they were all superb, especially in that second half. Coming after it, it was, man, and there was a double whammy, unfortunately. Butchers on the break.
00:45:52
Speaker
I think it was Joyce on her hip. All she's gotta do is give it and Joyce is over the line and this is no longer even a question. This is definitely Wales' match and she ate it.
00:46:03
Speaker
And unfortunately, I think on top of it, she's now gonna miss out on the rest of the World Cup, because the tackle was very awkward, and I think she did her knee. I was like, oh, that looked like a knee, and I think it was. I was like, oh, man. Either way, I think she's missing the rest of the World Cup, which sucks. But in the end, they got, what did they do, like 22 phases at the last? In the last passage of play, Wales did.
00:46:31
Speaker
Bevin knocks the penalty over and it was like, it was good all the way out. Um, I was just like, that was a good kick. That was a really good kick at that. So it was a, this was a great game. This is a great game. This is a great advert for, for, for the game and for women's rugby and, um, uh, both teams should be proud. And I hope both nations are very proud of the way they stood up because this was a,
00:46:56
Speaker
I was having fun watching this match. I was supposed to be doing work. I was supposed to be doing work. I could take my eyes off it. Yeah. And this is one where it's still on my list. I know we, you know, usually I don't watch matches after we do the pod unless, you know, something awesome. Go watch this one. You're right. This one is going to be one of the ones where I'm definitely going to go watch it. Yeah. Go watch this one for sure. All right.
00:47:24
Speaker
Well, a little bit of time. So we'll dive into what happened over in the premiership. That's that we can. Yeah. That we can. Cause this would hit this past weekend would have still been one of the Worcester weekends as well. So we had a couple extra teams off, unfortunately, or an extra team off. Um,
00:47:48
Speaker
I don't want to spend too much time on these. Bristol and Exeter, poor defensively from Bristol. What are Bristol now? I don't know what to do with them. They're in gotta-see-it territory now. Yeah, they really are. Maybe it'll help when Red Rajah is back. It can't rely on one player, though.
00:48:12
Speaker
Yeah, but that's kind of a glue thing. Like they got all these these they do have decent players. It's just not coming together. Yeah. They're just so disappointed. I'm pissed at Toby Fricker. He he probably cost them two tries, honestly. Yeah.
00:48:26
Speaker
Learn how to pass, you stupid fuck. Right. That's true. Come on. He was very selfish. He bottled two of them. I was like, Oh, you idiot. And I would, I would melt him if I was the coach. Yeah. I was like, you freaking dope. I was with my teammate, maybe not the coach, but he was one of my teammates. I'd absolutely freaking rids him out. Right. Really bad. And then at the end, they just kind of, unfortunately, here's the bad part. At the end, they just kind of gave up.
00:48:49
Speaker
They did. Which is the thing that Pat Lam's probably going to kick the kick their ass the most about. Yeah, certainly would be what I would be pissed about the most is like, listen, those last 10 minutes, you guys quit. And that is what would absolutely 100 percent know me as a coach. And that they gave up. They gave up one, two, three, four, five tries in the last 30 minutes. Just I. Five tried like, yeah, no, unacceptable.
00:49:17
Speaker
Totally. I agree. I agree wholeheartedly.
00:49:21
Speaker
Um, yeah, it's, it's sad because this was a team I was excited about. And it's so, and they're, they're just kind of not so excited about it no more. And yeah. And I, like Exeter, I don't think they were too much to write home about. They just, they, they scored, you know, let me what the, the Cow and Dickey try was off the intercept and like, um, the, the Noel tries were, were walkovers. Like you. Yeah. When we're talking about Jack, no, no scoring multiple tries. It's that kind of game. Yeah. Yuli gave up. Yeah. You guys, you guys messed up. Way to go. Yeah.
00:49:51
Speaker
way to go. Um, something may be worth a little bit more of our time. Um, bath and Gloucester, good match overall. Uh, Gloucester have kind of haven't really got a chance to get going because they've been, they've had so many off weeks. So, uh, they're in now since starts. Yeah. They're in now though. Um, I said in my column, I fucking hate, bend me in now.
00:50:17
Speaker
I don't know if I mentioned that like to that extreme I find him extremely annoying like he's a little piss ant to this point and you know the card was just like icing on the cake I was like fuck you dude like you're not even that good where you can be a piss ant and at least you know win over some respect like you're shit and you're a piss ant on top of it all I didn't see what he did I mean he's just a general annoyance all around and I know nines tend to be that way but he is just
00:50:46
Speaker
The the he's over the edge in terms of what's acceptable for a nine to be a little card. So for me, is he going into FAF territory? Getting up there. I mentioned him in the same sentence in my column. So there we go. Yeah. He's on my shit list. That's definitive. So, yeah, fuck him. I hope Charlie Chapman plays a lot more because this guy's really getting on my nerves. Yeah. And Chapman's better anywhere. I think so, too. I also think so, too. For Bath.
00:51:15
Speaker
And that's actually kind of the thing we were talking about earlier with Chapman, you know, being Ben, being is, is a name, right? He's played international. He's, I think he has, right? No, he hasn't. No, he hasn't. I've never played international. Thought he had. Anyway. Age grade, maybe, but that's it. Yeah.
00:51:34
Speaker
but just kind of, you know, the outside of the shit house or he's kind of your, your, you know, average scrum half. Whereas Chapman is like young and fiery and can go and coaches are relying more on the, on the steady hand rather than the live wire. Like we're seeing that, you know, obviously in, in Lester too, with, we have Jack Ford fleet and there's so many young players that are, that are,
00:51:57
Speaker
playing a more aggressive and entertaining style of rugby and coaches are not going with it. So, right. Less me and more Chapman, please. Please. And they'll end the likes for bath.
00:52:11
Speaker
A guy that I'm really excited to have back in form and that looks like he's going to be a problem for defenses and miles read. No, him too. Him too. Very excited. He looks he looked great. Koka. Joe Cook and a singer. Yes. Oh, yes. He's a problem. He he him in full form and full flight. That's what form looks like, folks.
00:52:32
Speaker
Not just because you're healthy, but you are healthy and you are doing damage and you are busy and he is busy. And he's also a big boy on top of it all, which means, you know, if he wants to go into that 12 channel and try and take a crash ball, he can do it. And he's got the speed to get away once he's, if he's free. So it's really, it's really terrifying for defense. He's like a slightly smaller, much more fit Nodolo there. Like, yeah, you can go because he can usually go the distance as well.
00:53:00
Speaker
Yeah, that, yes, exactly. He can play 80. Always helpful. And, and we just, you know, in, in a lot of ways, I thought bath had this and they just found ways to bottle it left, right and center, which is really disappointing. Yeah. They're not, they're not ready yet, but there's a lot to like there. There's, there's a lot so much to like with bath that they're, they're scoring tries. They're, they're moving the ball around. Um,
00:53:29
Speaker
Yeah, there's good stuff, but, but you know, they got to start turning that into wins. Yeah. And I, I think the 35 point score, let me see that that's, you know, um, ahead of one, and I'm not counting for games play, but one, two,
00:53:51
Speaker
four, five, six. So they're, they're, you know, they're ahead of six teams in terms of points scored and they've played five matches. Yeah. Some of those other teams have only played four, but they're scoring points. They're, they just gotta, you know, not be less in the league in points against which they are. Yeah. That's the problem. They got to sort out points for is good though. It's that's, that's a step forward from, from last year.
00:54:15
Speaker
Certainly. And I really hope we see more Orlando Bailey and less. And I like Prius Francis. Let's push him back. And maybe he is the cover at 10, but Orlando Bailey has earned it from last year. And I know this is a new coach, but still like looking back to last year.
00:54:32
Speaker
I feel like Orlando Bailey should have this 10-shirt at this point and be given a little bit more freedom to make some mistakes. Because I think when he's firing, he's going to produce some really fun stuff. Right. You can always do the gopper thing and put Francis at
00:54:50
Speaker
at 12, if you wanted to, I know you have Vojomo and there's, there's all sorts of people there, but that's a, you know, every so often you can slide them in there and just give them an option. Yeah. You know, give bail because he can play 12. He played 12 very well with, um, with the saints. So that's an option just to give, um, give Bailey and have a coach out in the field with them too. Right. Right. Agreed. Uh, let's jump over.
00:55:19
Speaker
to welfare road sale and Lester. A combination of messages come out of this for me. Lester aren't what they were. And we know that I think, I think this is somewhat safe to say at this point with this match and sale might have something cooking. I mean,
00:55:42
Speaker
They're not it and there are some there's some good parts of their games some parts of the games where I'm like, yeah Right what they are
00:55:50
Speaker
There's a certain player that's gonna make them very very watchable going forward as long as he's available and that's raffy quirk, right? like 40 minutes or raffy quirk is totally worth watching that match like That's like here comes raffy. All right. This is the part that I was waiting for And yeah, he is he's worth the price of admission folks so that is a guy to watch and set up a try score to try like
00:56:15
Speaker
Yeah, I love it. Uh, I'm looking forward to seeing what he does the rest of the season and hopefully he gets picked for England as well. But yeah, that dude, that dude's awesome. And he made Tom Cree look good. Yeah. You know, in terms of attacking sense, in terms of attacking sense, says a lot. It does.
00:56:37
Speaker
It's hard to make him look like an attacking player. So yeah, well done. But it's so he's, he's great. And we see, we saw the, we saw a sale last year with, um, these young spry and very, you know, very lightning wings with Robach, Aaron Reed. We saw Luke James turn into it. And now you get to add, um, Tom O'Flaherty into it. And you get to add Joe Carpenter into it as well, who both have looked very, very good since, uh, getting into the first team for sale. So.
00:57:07
Speaker
In terms of that, like, honestly, their centers don't do much. They don't need to with those guys, though, with those guys on the outside, they don't need to just hold your water and don't fuck up. Like, period. Those are the only things you two need to do in the middle. Don't do much. And for whatever reason, Robert Dupree has found a way to attack. I don't know how, but he has. So right. Well, I don't know where this Robert Dupree came from, but this is an impersonation, I swear, because it's not the one we've seen certainly in the last couple of years, I don't think so.
00:57:37
Speaker
Yeah. There are good things to like about sale. Who knew? I still want to slap John Ross every time I see him, but I'll try and ignore that in favor of the rest of the stuff. And for Lester, they went for penalties a lot, some of which were way out, so I don't blame them.
00:58:01
Speaker
but they're gonna have to find ways to get over the line here because, especially with Jasper is back, he muscled his way over, you have Julian Montoya back, use him. That line on mall was key to their success last year and he's not gone, I know Genj is, but he's not gone, he's still just as good at getting this thing over. Don't get away from that.
00:58:27
Speaker
I, I just, I am wondering, and you know, Harry Potter looked good this weekend and that wasn't sure I was, we were going to see that this year and he did. And there's still lots to like about what this lesser steam team has. They're just, they're not jelling well and a little bit of personnel selection issue in my, in my book. And then a little bit of just like, sometimes not knowing the left, not knowing the rights doing.
00:58:53
Speaker
Right. You know, I'm just neither is great. That's great. So yeah, Steve Worthwick. Let's see how good of a coach you are because yeah, that's got it. I've been harping on him a little bit about his coach. And I discussed that whole thing with a friend of you and I, Ollie. And he said, yeah, I know everybody wants him as like the next England coach, but let's wait and see if he can do it again.
00:59:20
Speaker
Yeah, right now the answer's not good, so. Right. Just throwing that out there. Don't need to spend too much time up on the tune here. It was 26-nothing at halftime and it wasn't quite all she wrote.
00:59:36
Speaker
But that's because, you know, because of the red card and all that, but right in the macro got three weeks could go down to two because if he takes a course, that's his first ever read. That is his first ever red card.
00:59:50
Speaker
Which is, that's, okay. I kind of was surprised to hear that. But yeah, he's as physical as he is. You know, that's what happens. You miss a little bit. He missed a lot. Or you miss a lot. He missed a lot. He knew he fucked up. He's like, I am in so much trouble, aren't I? Yes, you are. Yes, you are, you big dumbass. Although with that, that whole incident,
01:00:17
Speaker
This is another nine that's officially on my shit list, and I'll never call him anything other than Mickey, and that's Mickey Young. Even Wayne Barnes doesn't give him the respect of Michael. He calls him Mickey Stowe, which was awesome to hear. I was like, yeah, see, there's a reason that you haven't been called Michael yet, because nobody likes you. And he didn't outright punch Michael on the floor, but...
01:00:36
Speaker
It was goddamn close. And I was like, dude, I know he freaking fucked up and did something, but like the reaction to try and punch a dude while he's on the floor is just absolute bullshit. And I'm sorry, if Michael gets a gets a hold of you, Mickey Young, he's going to eat you. So just remember that. Just remember that before. And God knows he'll be the type to take a swing and then step back and let the big guy step in front of him. Like, of course, that's exactly what he would do.
01:01:02
Speaker
So fuck him. Anyway, um, yeah, rugby was fantastic. Elliott daily looks like he's having fun again, which is only bad news for defenses and good news for sherry series. Um, a bit of a change, a few changes here. Jinx is obviously out. Um,
01:01:18
Speaker
Uh, we'll, we'll, he got the day off, compelling Piffletti plug and play, no big deal. Right. And he's, he's had his bad days too. So I'm not saying Piffletti is going to be, you know, any sort of major league answer. It's still Willie going forward, but I think it should be the second though. Right. Going up to the tune. You're fine with Piffletti.
01:01:37
Speaker
as your starter. Yep. Yep. I agree. So, uh, real good stuff from it wasn't black Josh Halligan's minutes, which is great. I, another guy, I hope that we get to see more minutes, uh, getting put into him. Um, another young guy, holy shit. Academy guy who's who scored on his debut. Like this, you know, you, you can't score on debut if you get hidden on the, on the bench or at least in reserves for forever, like get them out there, warm up, you know,
01:02:06
Speaker
I mean, yeah, I'm not talking about obviously this match, but, but his, his debut earlier this year, but yeah, get him more opportunities. You know, you have the team around, like trust the guys around you, around him that can lift him up and saris saris will do that. So, you know, maybe other teams should, should start looking into this stuff like that too. Yeah. Agreed. Um, let's see. He did. He has played a couple of matches in the past, but not many. He's got one, two, he's only got three matches before this year.
01:02:35
Speaker
Okay, so maybe starting debut, I guess. Yeah.
01:02:40
Speaker
Yeah. It was so, it was so good. Um, yeah. Still good to see a young player out there for, um, for the series. And hopefully that's somebody that they can lean on more going forward and they can let somebody like Duncan Taylor walk after this year. Yeah. Yeah. Don't need him no more. No respect. No disrespect to him, but right. But he's not what he used to be. Oh, definitely not. God, this premiere, the permission site is so fucking annoying. Like I'm trying to go into the,
01:03:09
Speaker
to the wass and saints game and the reports not there like dude this is a problem which wasn't there for reason and no it wasn't there either but I at least had the overview of it so I could kind of look at the I could recap the story and stuff there's nothing you want to do better premiership fix this shit this is basic this is basic stuff like
01:03:34
Speaker
Get your website up and running so people can look at stuff from the matches. It's not hard. Why is that? That should not need to be said. The fact that it needs to be said, that is a microcosm of everything right there. Come on, man.
01:03:53
Speaker
Anyway, it was a great match up in the coverage, which will end up being, as we know it, probably the last for WOS at the CBS. It was absolutely wild. This was, I watched.
01:04:10
Speaker
I turned on the second half because I think I was watching one of the other, one of the world cup games on my iPad. And then I tuned into this for the second half on my iPad and had the series on the TV and I flipped it when series ran away, um, right, which didn't take too long, but still. And yeah, this was totally worth the watch. Uh, Jacob Mumaga getting a red card was a huge problem for them. Obviously that was less than ideal. Uh,
01:04:37
Speaker
You know, was started off great. They, you know, Nism car look great. Jack Willis, obviously so many names are there just to be missed by this fucking league. Um, yeah. Right. How is it as well as the word with Worcester, there's, there's more with wasps, which is saying, cause that's, I mean, they're a better, better club. Unfortunately, like, you know, not unfortunately, but just that's the way it goes. Like, yeah. I mean, the will both Willis's, the car has come on amazing for this team. Barbary.
01:05:04
Speaker
I know he's out, but still. Yeah, and Shields have been awesome too. Atkinson was great this match. Atkinson was awesome this match. I had to eat my hat. I was like, okay, nevermind. He's good without the tea. Yeah, I had to eat my hat with that one. Yeah, Atkinson was great. You got, Odawg was back and he was looking good.
01:05:31
Speaker
And then did he score? Yeah, he did. He did score. He did score. And then you had the Saints just roar back in the last, what, five minutes or something like that with two tries like, oh, so much fun. You know, Alex Coles is a thing. He is. Don't don't don't deny it. He is a thing. That was a sweet try he had. Yeah. Well, you had two on the day. So right. Well, the yeah, the from the first half one.
01:06:01
Speaker
Listen, the second half one's pretty good too. Yeah. So there's that. Lewis London was excellent. Truck came off the bench and basically gave, filled out in the middle finger like, fuck you, you're starting me from now on. You know, it's bigger came off, which was less than helpful, but still like, I think Fairbanks followed in at 10 and it was no big deal. Slay home, just wheels, wheels for days.
01:06:29
Speaker
just absolutely fantastic and this both teams played very very well and incredibly well and we saw David ribbons return and he knocked some he knocked somebody back hard uh i think it was on the final final passage of play that led to their winner but wow just two really really good teams playing playing open fun rugby and this is an advert for rugby unfortunately we're not going to be able to see one of these teams the rest of the year but
01:06:55
Speaker
Right. This, and this is one of the teams that, you know, they talk about making it a spectacle wasps, make it a spectacle, whether they win or lose. It's a fun match. It's an entertaining match. You're going to want to watch it. And, um, you need more of that. So again, better leadership of the pram and you'll get that. Fix your goddamn website. Yeah. Fix your goddamn league. Yeah. Oh, that too. Yeah. That's just part of it. Yeah. That's a, that's a small part of the whole thing.
01:07:26
Speaker
That was his own doll. Yep. Oh, God Bassett. I think we're watching this. Yeah, we're watching the same. There's no possible way. There's no possible way that I could tell you that we that we knew that we are. Apparently we have not known that the whole time we've been watching the match the same way. Yeah. And this for this whole time, there's no possible way that we knew that we were
01:07:53
Speaker
in sync with having this on in the background until just now. Oh, man. Well, that's fucking disturbing in so many ways. That's disturbing in way too many ways. Oh, man. All right. Well, we'll sign off with that. We're going to head over to the fancy corner and do what we can. They will recap Champions League and all that good stuff.
01:08:23
Speaker
If you're not heading over there, uh, we appreciate you stopping by. Um, anyway, that wants to shoot us additional thoughts on, you know, how the league can go forward. We're open where there are bad ideas, but there aren't too many of them. Let's play it that way. Um, there's no idea that's worse than what they're doing right now. No shit. Um, yeah, feel free to shoot that over and we'll discuss next week. We have a little more time. Um,
01:08:48
Speaker
But if you're heading over to the fancy corner, we'll see you over there. But either way, we appreciate you listening and thank you all for hanging out with us. And fancyrosbypodcast.gmail.com. Questions, comments, concerns. We'll see you all later. Have a good one. Later.