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00:00:18
Holmesy
G'day and welcome
Fantasy Carnage Aftermath
00:00:20
Holmesy
to the Pod Pod. It's Holmesy here talking all things AFL Fantasy Classic for you on this Monday, the 14th of July. And boys, far out do we need a bit of an AFL Fantasy therapy session after a round of carnage.
00:00:34
Holmesy
Let's be honest, it's good anytime there's carnage that affects a lot of highly owned players. um It's only good for divergence and seeing players and coaches with different teams. So i excited to chat about it with
Meet the Fantasy Experts
00:00:47
Holmesy
you boys. There's no Sam tonight, but as always, we do have two-time top 10 finisher and runner-up in 2019, John Harmy off the back of another good week, mate.
00:00:56
Holmesy
How we doing?
00:00:58
Jon Harmey
Hello, host Holmesy. Yeah, not too bad. Yeah, well, I don't mind um a few changes that force people into looking some different ways as well, but I could probably do with one a week, mate, not and three or four that we're staring at this week in the trades, hey?
00:01:16
Holmesy
Yeah, well, when it does, when it rains, it pours. We will get to that. And we do have the perennial top 1K finisher and still the most unlucky man in fantasy football, Louis.
00:01:30
Holmesy
Thanks for opening the app. Thanks for turning your computer on and joining us today, mate. How are we?
00:01:35
Lew
Nah, I'm alright mate, ah pleased to be here. It's probably a carnage round that's been a little bit overdue. I think we've had a pretty good first 18 rounds and this one's certainly a rough one, but it was bound to happen eventually, it wasn't it?
00:01:52
Holmesy
Yeah, yeah, that's it. And I suppose we're just very thankful that we didn't have the captaincy on a Nick Martin or or someone else like that. But yeah, we'll will definitely get
Listener Rankings Update
00:02:03
Holmesy
into that. As I mentioned off the top, there's no Sam today, but listeners, but don't worry. He specifically asked me to let you know ah tell you that he had a rank rise this week.
00:02:13
Holmesy
ah So he's come up about 100 spots into 275. So please don't worry about him. He's fine and his hat chase is still...
Fantasy Scores & Player Performances
00:02:21
Holmesy
well and truly going.
00:02:24
Holmesy
Lou, why don't you kick us off with your score for the week and let's go straight into your Stato and Dossie picks for the week and what your rank's doing.
00:02:26
Lew
Thank you.
00:02:32
Lew
Yeah, so I scored 21-16, which was probably slightly above par this week, but brought down by and another poor captain choice. I ah put the C on Rosie on Sunday afternoon, who obviously dished up and an injured 58 or something like that. I've already blocked it out of my memory, whatever it was, which just concludes...
00:02:56
Lew
or hopefully concludes a pretty bad run of luck the last three weeks, captaining Whitfield, trading or rather trading into Jai Caldwell and then captaining Connor Rosey.
00:03:08
Lew
That makes five scores under 78 as my C this year. So I've had an absolute mare there. ah But in terms of my Stato pick of the week, it's got to be Josh Dacos with the 132. It was looking pretty, pretty rough at three-quarter time and I was watching a movie with my partner and pulled out the scores at three-quarter time and I was a little bit disappointed and probably about three hours later, i ended up checking what the final results were. And I could not believe that Josh Dacos had found his way to 1.32 with an 82 point last quarter, which is just unheard of. It's probably one of the the best fantasy quarters that we'll ever see, I think. So...
00:03:50
Lew
That had me in a pretty good mood on Friday night. And i'll I'll give a little tip of the hat to Caleb Daniel as well with a 98. He's been a nice little forced keeper in the forward line where it was like a couple of those other guys that we were bullish on, maybe even as little as a month ago, are starting to drop away. So I'll give it to those two there.
00:04:11
Lew
My dossier pick of the week has got to go to Nick Dacos for 78. Honestly, and maybe a little bit shocking, I wish I didn't pick Nick Dacos. I went majority of the season without him.
00:04:24
Lew
And i feel like picking him hasn't really done me any favours. I've joined the group, so to speak. of He's probably owned by 100% of competitive coaches. But he just seems to do this this year. And it may be something to keep in mind in the years following.
00:04:41
Lew
When he does get the attention, he does seem to score sort of between 70 and 90. And um from a football perspective too, he seems to pick up these niggles when things aren't going his way too. But on the other end is 130s. I think there might be a bit of room to improve there potentially. And I do wish that I kept fading him for the rest of the season.
00:05:06
Holmesy
Yeah, bit a bit harsh on Dacos there, Lou. I don't know if you watched much of the game, but he did have someone land on his ankle that actually looked a bit nasty. So he was a bit proppy after that. But you are right in those games where he does get attention. he His head can drop and and he does put up these stinkers.
00:05:23
Holmesy
But I mean, he's what, 1.08 mil, which shows that he's been over the last five weeks in the price cycle, he's been one of the most highest averaging players
Defending Player Choices
00:05:31
Holmesy
in the comp. So um definitely happy to have him.
00:05:32
Lew
Yeah, and he's and he's got a he's got a team that can pick up the slack too. So he doesn't necessarily have to be that guy a week in, week out. So I'm a bit harsh on him, but in comparison to Josh Dacos, who's clearly the superior midfielder at the Pies, it was pretty poor effort this week.
00:05:50
Jon Harmey
Tom Mitchell in there too. i mean, there's a slot slightly different dynamic in that Magpies midfield at the minute with him back. He's actually looked quite good.
00:06:00
Holmesy
Yeah, rest in peace, Ned Long, is all I'll say. If you've still got him on field, he needs to go ASAP.
00:06:03
Jon Harmey
Yep.
00:06:07
Holmesy
I'll go next as the next highest scoring coach on the pod. I had a twenty one thirty seven this week, um which saw my rank slide just two spots back to 32. So still well and truly in the hunt for hat.
00:06:20
Holmesy
ah ah My Stato pick of the week, I'm actually going to give to Noel Anderson for a 106. Now, this wasn't the highest score in my team by any means. I had some very popular players that went big, but um as one of my unique players, um my you know my rise in the 100 is really going to rely on Noel Anderson continuing to get it done considering he's lowly owned. and um Going into a Collingwood match that's typically pretty tough, ah scoring 106, capped off by a brilliant captain's goal towards the end of that game.
00:06:51
Holmesy
um Very happy with that. And he gets my Stato pick. My Dossie Pick of the Week and Louis, I'm not blaming you because I pressed the buttons, but am I going to get to enjoy Matt Kennedy at any point this season?
00:06:56
Lew
Thank
00:07:07
Holmesy
30 points. I had to watch him put ton after ton after ton on my head. in the safest, most consistent role in fantasy footy, 60% CBAs behind Bont and Richards getting no attention, and he drops a 30. Lou, what the is that?
00:07:27
Lew
Yeah, well, I'm certainly glad I didn't watch this game. I'm thankful that I did pick him for a couple of tons. It might have been two or three, but what did go on there, Kyle? 30 from Matt Kennedy. is oh Would he have even scored that when he was at the Blues?
00:07:44
Holmesy
ah I didn't watch the game. He had, from the stats, he had about 35% CBAs, but that was that was zero, I think, in the last quarter. So he got moved out of the rotation, couldn't get near it.
00:07:57
Holmesy
um
00:07:58
Holmesy
yeah I think he had two points in the last quarter. It's a concern. um In a week of carnage, we don't need anything to happen with Matt Kennedy. I think it's just an off night. Who knows? Maybe he was sick during the week. Maybe he was carrying something. Maybe they didn't have a matchup for him. But yeah, look, I just ah just want to start enjoying Matt Kennedy. And at the moment, he's averaged 65 for me. So no good.
00:07:58
Lew
How you took over?
00:08:19
Holmesy
Harmi, give us your week.
00:08:21
Jon Harmey
Yeah, Matt Kenny, those forwards though, mate, I mean, there's hardly any forwards that are going any good. So I don't know who you'd be jumping off to. My week wasn't too bad. I scored 2-2-3-3, which had a bit of a ranking rise. so I'm now up to 3-3.
00:08:39
Jon Harmey
three seven nine so into the 3000s. So, that was a little
Highlight Performances
00:08:44
Jon Harmey
bit better for the weekend. um could have been yeah i Could have been better still, though. But anyway, that's just how it went.
00:08:51
Jon Harmey
Well, I think my Stato pick of the week, and I can't really... I can't really avoid the top of the tree, the highest um scoring player of the round, Bont, 166.
00:09:02
Jon Harmey
I mean, that's huge. That'll have to be one of the biggest scores of the year, I expect. So, yeah, that's what he does. He doesn't seem to be...
00:09:14
Jon Harmey
smashing himself against the easy beats. But when the game's on the line in a difficult game, he tries to lift the team. So anyway, I wish I'd captained him, to be honest. so In the end, I captained Merritt and just snuck to 100 after being tagged in the second half.
00:09:30
Jon Harmey
um But my dossier pick of the week, I think the you know like the commentators are getting stuck into him and Max Gorms getting stuck into him and every bloody Melbourne player was. But Tristan Cherry,
00:09:44
Jon Harmey
I'm getting stuck into him for his seven disposal effort, getting smashed in the hit outs from Max Gorn, putting up a score of 58. So, yeah, I mean, him as our my R2 at the moment is looking pretty awful. And the um not having enough money to get him up to a decent ruck is probably going to hurt this week, I think. But anyway, I'll have to get creative, Holmesy.
00:10:11
Lew
Yeah, I just did some quick maths on Marcus Bontempelli and I can remember sitting here a couple of weeks ago and lamenting the fact that I brought him in post-buy despite not really being on the radar but one of the few options.
00:10:24
Lew
But since then, and I know he's had some stinker scores in there that we've all complained about, he's actually gone at 105.3. So... Obviously helped by that 166, but he is turning it around. He's sort of becoming that player that we thought we were picking about five weeks ago, which is nice for the form to change because we've clearly fielded a lot of questions about Marcus Bontempelli for a while now, and hopefully that's behind him and he can keep going at that clip.
00:10:52
Holmesy
Yeah, and that's that's the thing. And it is so tight in the top nine at the moment that the Bulldogs have to essentially win pretty much all of their games to make finals. It's the same as Frio, Hawthorne, GWS. they They can't take their foot off the gas whatsoever, and and Bont's going to be a big part of that. And unfortunately, if you didn't jump last week, he's now up over a million dollars. And with these forced trades, um you might have missed out on him, although he is pretty popular um up the top at least anyway.
Injury Concerns
00:11:22
Holmesy
All right, boys, let's get into our hot topics for the week. And there is a lot to discuss. So I'm going just start out with some of the lesser known stuff and then we'll get into the into the real um nitty gritty. So first off, Adam Chera, for those of you that still have him, has been sent straight to the tribunal after his fourth umpire contact. Now, we would assume that he gets off with just a big fine, but ah You never know with the AFL. They might want to make a bit of a point there and and give him a week, but you'll find that out tomorrow night.
00:11:54
Holmesy
Louis, there is ah a bit of a Nick Dacos ankle watch. Surely he'll be fine. um He's chasing a brown low and and he ran out the game, but word is he did need a jab to get through. So just to watch on him this week and how he pulls up.
00:12:09
Holmesy
And Andy Brayshaw, I know you guys didn't watch the footy on the weekend, but did you see the interview with Andy Brayshaw?
00:12:15
Jon Harmey
Yeah, yeah hes look at his top.
00:12:16
Lew
Yeah, with Kath Loughlin.
00:12:18
Holmesy
Yeah, copped a Luke Jackson knee to the head with about 30 seconds to go and then came to the bench and then yeah and interviewing him after the game was yeah unbelievable. Hopefully they make finals off the back of him and make a late charge.
00:12:35
Holmesy
But let's get into the the real big stuff now. So Nick Martin, ACL, owned by 89% of the top 1,000.
00:12:41
Jon Harmey
Yeah.
00:12:43
Holmesy
Tristan Cherry, it's come out now that he's got three weeks from the MRO. They might decide to challenge it tomorrow, but you'd think... Three weeks is probably where that lands. So he's 91% owned in the top 1,000.
00:12:56
Holmesy
And then Connor Rosey with a fractured hand by the sounds of it. He is a test for this week, ah but he is, yeah, could potentially be out 98% owned. And then I don't have the numbers as it's just hot off the press, Lou, but Jason Horne-Francis, another one that is out ah for the season with a fractured foot.
00:13:16
Holmesy
Harmi, straight off the bat, you've got something to i to say
00:13:20
Jon Harmey
Dasinghorn Francis, that's not true is it? You sure we got that right?
00:13:24
Lew
Yep.
00:13:25
Holmesy
Yeah. Have you not looked at the news, Harmy?
00:13:28
Lew
Yeah, Kao Toomey's reporting that he's gone in for surgery and looks like he's going to miss the rest of the year.
00:13:33
Holmesy
Fractured foot, Harmy. Pulled up sore.
00:13:37
Jon Harmey
Unreal. that
00:13:39
Holmesy
I thought you knew that when I when i was talking to about your team earlier. So i said you I said you've got a forced trade. You don't have Martin, but you've got a forced trade with us. So yeah, Jason Horne Francis...
00:13:49
Holmesy
was potentially going to be an option for for coaches to go down from Mick Martin to get the money to go upwards on Cherry. But unfortunately, he will now miss more than likely the remainder of the season.
00:14:02
Holmesy
But what I want to do quickly, boys, is let's just talk about what we're we're planning to do with our trades now.
00:14:06
Lew
fool
00:14:08
Holmesy
And Harmi, you're really on the spot. as he has You've got to got to figure it out on the fly.
00:14:12
Lew
For the listeners at home, we're watching his heart break in two right now.
00:14:17
Jon Harmey
I know what I'm doing.
00:14:17
Lew
You cannot believe it.
00:14:18
Jon Harmey
ah know what I'm doing this week. I'm just letting it roll on Kyle Oman. He's helped me in the past.
00:14:26
Holmesy
Oh, geez. All right, Lou, why don't you talk us a little bit about what you're planning to do?
00:14:31
Lew
Yeah, I think Sherry's got to go. He was putridly out of form. The real question is, who do you trade him to? I think for those that don't have Max Gorn, I think that's probably the best option at the price point.
00:14:46
Lew
I think Grundy is the
Ruck Position Strategies
00:14:48
Lew
best option, but at this stage now, you are paying a serious premium for him. He's 1.186. It's pretty much top dollar at this stage of the year.
00:14:58
Lew
That being said, he's far and away probably the most informed ruckman at the moment. ah Those two ah who come to mind immediately, I've seen some coaches with a little bit of interest in Tim English as well, which I don't mind.
00:15:13
Lew
I'm interested to hear you two guys' thoughts though, because I feel like we can probably throw a bit of a blanket over some of these top rucks, but contextually within coaches' sides is where they're going to land, I think, in terms of how much cash they've got.
00:15:30
Holmesy
Well, I suppose, Lou, I'll kind of throw back to you. Do you think this is a case of you know hypothetical? Say you're a team that's still running a a Tom McCarthy on field. Maybe you've got to bring another rookie back on field this week to to cover a Rosie or something like that.
00:15:45
Holmesy
Do you think paying up for Grundy is going to destroy teams too much and and they're better off taking a haircut?
00:15:48
Jon Harmey
Thank
00:15:53
Holmesy
to a Gorn or someone like that so that they can still have that cash available? Or do you think it's Grundy at ah at all costs knowing that he's got probably the best run for Ruckman coming up and he comes up against a Ruckless North this week?
00:16:07
Lew
Yeah, and that's the thing. The fixture is just nuts, I think. Now that we know Sherry's suspended, it's really hard to look past Brodie Grundy. After that, he plays Flynn, and then he plays the corpse of Todd Goldstein. So he's clearly the best option over the next three weeks. And actually, he's got in round 23, Geelong round 24, the Eagles. So ah that's a guy who's going to be a captain option more weeks than not for us. But I do think ah we can consider a bit of Max Gorn. He does have a decent run home as well. He's got um c Carlton this week, but then comes into Saints, Eagles, Dogs, Hawks, and Pies. not as juicy, but certainly one that we can take a look at knowing that um what he was able to produce sort of pre-buy.
00:16:56
Lew
um Then you've got your other cheaper options. I'm interested to hear whether or not you two have explored much of those. I don't mind a Toby Nankovas, who's probably pretty left field, went at 105 last year, but does have the Eagles this week, which could be a nice little nice little sugar boost there.
00:17:18
Holmesy
Yeah, the thing about Nank is, yes, he's got the Eagles this week, but then he goes Collingwood into Gold Coast, which are two pretty tough um matchups for Ruck. And then does finish with St. Kilda, North Geelong. So that is nice.
00:17:33
Holmesy
But all my you might think as well, if he's a little bit sore coming into the back end of the year, that they might even rest him up um come the end, knowing that they don't exactly have too much to play for. So... Yeah, look, I suppose I'll get Harmi's thoughts first.
00:17:47
Holmesy
I know, Harmi, you don't have Nick Martin, but, you know, sort of put yourself in the listener's shoes in terms of having a Nick Martin, Cherry, Rosie sort of combo. what are What are you sort of suggesting that coaches look to do here? Because, yeah, we are going to have to get creative now that Horn Francis is off the table.
00:18:06
Jon Harmey
Yeah, yeah, no, that's right. Look, you're right, I don't have Nick Martin, but I've got Rosie, Cherry, Jeremy Cameron and Horne Francis who all look set to me. So um that actually counts me out of being able to get Grundy because I can't spend up to that extent. There's no way I'm going be able to really. So...
00:18:28
Jon Harmey
um But, I mean, Grundy, you know, 1.2 mil, it's so much money anyway. I'm not sure whether you really can, but you'd have to be in a bloody good position to be able to afford to distribute.
00:18:43
Holmesy
Just, Harmi, just kind of think about it last year, though.
00:18:45
Lew
We
00:18:47
Holmesy
how How much did we say last year that Cherry was too expensive when he went on that run and he ends up going 150, 150, 150 because of the fixture? It could just be you've got to get up there, mate.
00:18:59
Holmesy
Six rounds to go.
00:19:01
Lew
You kind have to anyway. ah Gorn, English and ah Grundy, they're all over 1.1 mils. So you're you're not saving money either way, really. like These guys are priced at that point for a reason. I think if you've got the cash to do it at this stage of the season, do you just pay it all the way up knowing that somebody like a Brodie Grundy can be a captain option pretty much five of the next six weeks?
00:19:26
Jon Harmey
Well, who's he going to be rucking against? Finbar, Mallee, or they bring in...
00:19:31
Holmesy
Sounds like, yeah, Teakle might be coming in, it sounds like.
00:19:31
Jon Harmey
Cameron Carmel-Jones or, oh, bring Tickle.
00:19:34
Holmesy
So it's going to be no one. And North have been the easiest for inside mids as well. It could be an absolute bloodbath.
00:19:43
Jon Harmey
Look, Holmesy, to go back to answer your question, i actually have four rucks already in my team. I have got Max Gorn, Tristan Cherry. um I've got ah Boyd as my R3. And I've also still got Nick Madden.
00:19:58
Jon Harmey
So, you know, perhaps there's an outside chance Madden comes back in.
00:20:02
Holmesy
Did you, hang on, did you say Luke Jackson as well? do you have Luke Jackson?
00:20:05
Jon Harmey
Nah, don't have jacks.
00:20:06
Holmesy
ah
00:20:06
Jon Harmey
I don't have good rucks. So...
00:20:11
Jon Harmey
um so
00:20:11
Lew
So but can we explore that, Holmesy?
00:20:11
Holmesy
All right.
00:20:13
Lew
Can we can we move Luke Jackson into the ruck line and spend our money from a Tristan Asheri on maybe a midfielder or a defender that's going to get us more points than some of these other guys?
00:20:14
Holmesy
Yeah.
00:20:17
Jon Harmey
Yeah, I would.
00:20:25
Holmesy
So that was going to be my point. So yeah, if you're if you don't have the option, like if you don't have money carried over, say you're only carrying sort of 40, 50K and then going down from Nick Martin just puts you in those you know mid to low 700K areas that you need to get up to Brodie Grundy and you don't like shopping there, you're not happy with a Jack Martin or...
00:20:51
Holmesy
a Dan Curtin or players that we're not advocating to get, then potentially there is the option to swing Luke Jackson into the ruck this week. um to then target sort of two mid-900K players. Maybe you've got some DPP and you can get a maybe you can get a Grine Myers and a Whitfield or you can get a McCray and a Myers or something like that where you're not completely destroying your team to get up to Grundy and maybe you just close your eyes to...
00:21:21
Holmesy
to to not watch that game on the weekend, Lou. I think it is a play, but just keeping in mind that that wants to be fixed ASAP because as you said, you've got Gorn, you've got Grundy, you've got English all so all above 1.1 million and no one in the forward line is getting close and you're essentially bringing extra forwards into your team.
00:21:42
Lew
Yeah, you can't argue with that. that's That's going to be the crux decision this week. I personally think that if you've got the cash, it's a pretty simple decision in paying up for Brodie Grundy.
00:21:53
Lew
Outside of that, I think coming in second place for me would have to be Tim English.
00:21:56
Jon Harmey
you.
00:21:58
Lew
He's got a really nice ruck run as well. He comes up against... ah Brisbane, which is a little bit tougher this week, then Essendon Giants, Melbourne in Gorn, but then Eagles and Frio to finish the year. So that could be an interesting one too.
00:22:15
Holmesy
Yep. Harmi, I'm just going to use this as a bit of a ah selfish thing of mine to get some help. So I am looking to get Brodie Grundy from Tristan Cherry this
Team Adjustments
00:22:23
Holmesy
week. I think it's too good to pass up and I'm lucky that I had um cash carried over.
00:22:27
Holmesy
But if you could take Nick Martin down to the three players I've already traded out this year in Warner, Rankin and Caleb Daniel, which one would you be looking to bring back in?
00:22:37
Lew
Yeah.
00:22:41
Jon Harmey
Warner, Rankin and Daniel. I don't like Warner's role. i actually think it's gone backwards from when ah I traded him in. Rankin is a stay-at-home...
00:22:51
Holmesy
Back-to-back 60% CBAs. They
00:22:54
Jon Harmey
Rankin is more of a stay-at-home forward with Rochelle out. um Still went on right on the weekend. Caleb, Daniel...
00:23:04
Jon Harmey
Josh, mate, who have um North got? Let's just have a quick look. Have you looked at the run?
00:23:10
Holmesy
ah play Sydney this week. I know that.
00:23:13
Lew
ah Sydney, Geelong, St Kilda, GWS, Richmond, and then Adelaide to close out the year.
00:23:21
Jon Harmey
Oh, geez.
00:23:23
Lew
But I don't mind Caleb Daniel. i think he's one that in this forward line you can point to with a role and probably a little bit of a flaw too, just because he does take those kick-ins. I know it's not a super sexy pick and um you know potentially he's not that 100 guy that maybe over the first month we're thinking he could be in that role, but...
00:23:45
Lew
I think anybody scoring sort of north of 90 week in, week out is certainly worth considering in that forward line because even some of our who we thought were our best players a couple of weeks ago are starting to really sort of struggle to nudge that ton mark.
00:24:02
Jon Harmey
Holmesy, we're at the time of year where I'm assuming that you are now getting visibility on what the other top 100 coaches have got.
00:24:15
Jon Harmey
If I was in your position, I would be, as in get a log of who has got what. So from an ownership perspective in that top 100, what does that look like?
00:24:28
Jon Harmey
Have you mapped it?
00:24:29
Holmesy
Yeah, Caleb Daniel, I think is the highest owned. I think he's still somewhere about 40% to 50% roughly.
00:24:36
Lew
There'd be a lot of ghost ships though.
00:24:36
Holmesy
um then Then it's Rankin and then it's, ah yeah, I'm talking about in the top 100, Lou.
00:24:41
Lew
Okay.
00:24:41
Holmesy
And then I think it's Rankin about 30% and Warner about 20%.
00:24:41
Lew
Yep.
00:24:44
Holmesy
Yeah.
00:24:45
Jon Harmey
Are they the best you can get? Like, is that the is that the top of your price point?
00:24:49
Holmesy
Yeah. yeah
00:24:51
Jon Harmey
It's a bit of a hard one, isn't it, to know whether you should be looking to match or whether you should be still trying to attack and go somebody different. Yeah, that's that is hard. audit I don't know. I probably feel most comfortable with Daniel, but, you know, Sydney's not a great matchup for him. Yeah.
00:25:11
Holmesy
It's what I was afraid you'd say, Harmi, I traded him out this round. So do I just bite the bullet and bring him back in like I did with Zach Merritt?
00:25:17
Jon Harmey
Bad try to get.
00:25:19
Holmesy
Who knows? at Time so i will tell. um For coaches that are looking to... So we've spent a little bit of time on the rucks. um if you're If you're planning to bring in a forward, Lou, so would you have any, so if you don't own one of these players, sort of Bailey Smith, Luke Jackson, Brian Myers, Jack McRae, Christian Petrarca, you'd be shopping in those areas first before you're looking to go down further?
00:25:43
Lew
I would be probably with the exception of Matt Kennedy at the moment, just with the break even. It's upwards of, think it's 178 at the moment. So he's going to plummet down in price if you can um afford to wait there, of course.
00:25:59
Lew
I think also Christian Petrarca is one that I wouldn't be too keen on at the moment. He's sort of been just... yeah Floating around that 90 mark, he's super highly owned. He's a great player, but just hasn't really been able to to break through that ceiling.
00:26:14
Lew
For me, I think that's one that I could find a better point of difference than than paying up for a Christian Petrarca, I think. but The other three, Bailey Smith, he he's a lock, personally, for me.
00:26:25
Lew
I think that...
00:26:25
Jon Harmey
yeah
00:26:26
Lew
on the way home he's a little bit like nick dacos is going to be sniffing the charlie and uh be interested in trying to trying to get that win so luke jackson nice little ruck role he's been in great form and um great to watch so like him grind myers as well with that run home and as well as richmond in there which he played quite well against in the last few weeks and ah he's another one that I'd be pretty keen to target, as well as Jack McRae, whose fixture probably is about as good as it gets.
00:27:00
Holmesy
I suppose Harmi just a few sort of left field options if if coaches want to, you know, it is the pod pod after all. Could you go Cozzy Pickett priced at 88? He does have a good run.
00:27:11
Holmesy
ah His role is incredible at the moment. Midfield kicking goals. Could you go there or a bit too risky?
00:27:16
Jon Harmey
Anybody who has traded in Cozzy Pickett before will not be trading him in. Because this is what he does. He's just so up and down, so inconsistent.
00:27:27
Jon Harmey
Yeah, priced at 88, as you said. You'd be lucky to get 88 out of him as an average for the rest of year, reckon.
00:27:36
Holmesy
What about Luke Parker? Harmy, priced at 88, gone at 101 over the last three games, has coincided with Wardlaw and LDU being out of the team. Could you go there as a bit of point of difference?
00:27:48
Jon Harmey
I prefer him over Pickett. But, yeah, that said, it's been a bit... Well, Wardlaw may not be back straight away, but LDU you would expect to come in um this week. But, yeah, Luke Parker, I mean, he led the CBAs for North on the weekend.
00:28:04
Jon Harmey
And, yeah, if he can maintain a fair percentage of them, i think he was probably a good pick.
00:28:11
Lew
Yeah, I really like Luke Parker. I think this is the time of year that North try to sell a little bit of hope to their fans. And Parker's probably their best best midfielder, um to be honest, even ahead of an LDU when he's fit. I think Parker brings a lot to that midfield mix and he could be one that comes home pretty strong.
00:28:33
Holmesy
yeah Yeah, I don't mind it. um I mean, what does that mean for a Harry Sheasel if you've got Parker, LDU and Wardlaw in there? Is he back to the half forward? I think he would pretty much play there on the weekend anyway, but Sheasel's the least of our Warriors army.
00:28:46
Jon Harmey
got Have you got Shaisal, Himesie?
00:28:49
Holmesy
Yeah.
00:28:50
Jon Harmey
Hmm, yeah. Don't know. Don't know how he'll finish the season.
00:28:55
Holmesy
Yeah, I'd love to get him love to get to a ah point where I could loop him, but I've still got Colby as well, who your boy Harmy only had five points in the last quarter, so that stunted a bit of cash, but that's all right.
00:28:55
Lew
Nah, neither.
00:29:07
Holmesy
He's well down.
00:29:07
Jon Harmey
Yeah, only five points.
00:29:08
Holmesy
Yeah.
00:29:09
Jon Harmey
Still got 88. What did she use of score?
00:29:10
Holmesy
113.
00:29:12
Holmesy
one thirteen
00:29:13
Jon Harmey
Gee, really? I'm surprised by that. Take it back.
00:29:18
Holmesy
ah All right, Lou. um So let's say coaches now, are they've got the DPP and and maybe they're able to target some players in other lines. I've only got four here that I'd like you to sort of talk through and rank. So Lockie Whitfield priced at $95.
00:29:36
Holmesy
Errol Goulden priced at $109. Now, Dane Zorko and Josh Dunkley, I've put them in there just because of their ceiling potential and low ownership in that sort of top 100, top 1,000, which is the the type of players that you know we can like to target so that we get a bit of a leg up. But talk us through those four players.
00:29:54
Lew
Yeah, well, um I'm pretty keen on Lockie Whitfield, as you know. He's one that comes up against Essendon this week, who are just entirely depleted and actually give up the most amount of marks as a team to to any other team. So...
00:30:10
Lew
Whitfield should be able to get involved with that. And if he does, I could really see some ceiling there and also have the added bonus of him being a nice little VC on the Thursday night. So if you can get your week started with a nice 150 captain, I think that's massive.
Reliable Picks and Trade Tactics
00:30:26
Lew
um Errol Goulden, look, we we know what Errol Goulden can do. I think the only asterisk here is that he's returning from injury, though it's been about a month now and his form has looked, outside of that first game, pretty unbelievable. So if you've got the cash floating around there, I think Errol Goulden is a pretty safe pick. He's not representing value to me, but um he's one that I think can be a potential captain option on the way home and and go at that 109 clip potentially. Dane Zorko, we know what that is. He's ah he's a 105 plus guy.
00:31:02
Lew
I think he's a nice option pretty much all year and it continues to be. Whereas Josh Dunkley rounding out that list is an interesting one. He's one that lot of coaches dropped him out of their midfield just based on some pretty poor form, but turned it around on the weekend with a nice ceiling score, one that we're a little bit more used to in previous years.
00:31:26
Lew
I'm not sure what to read into this one. Part of me says that this is probably the time of year where Josh Dunkley can really excel, just being the defensive midfielder that he is.
00:31:37
Lew
he can get you know i upwards of five, six, seven tackles a week, then ah think that's enough of a floor for him to be a decent pick this year as the mid only. And what we've seen from midfielders this year is that I think what M8 is at about 101 clip, which is which isn't a lot, and Josh Dunkley can...
00:31:56
Lew
can blow that out of the water. So at his price point, I don't mind that for a bit of value either, but I'm probably ranking them. Whitfield first, Gould in second, think Josh Dunkley third, just for the price point. And then Zorko last only because ah coaches above you probably already have him.
00:32:17
Holmesy
He's not as highly owned as you think, Lou, so that's why I've put him in there. I think he's only owned by 20% the top 100.
00:32:23
Lew
Really? Wow.
00:32:24
Holmesy
And yeah, I think a lot jumped off at the buys. So i really like Dane Zorko and I think he's someone that coaches should be looking to target at the opportune moment.
00:32:36
Holmesy
And it might even be this week. Now, I know it's hard with these forced trades, but the Doggies have been giving up points to defenders and they're playing at the Gabba. If you can get a 120-130 out of him and get ahead of the pack, um yeah, I really like Dane Zorko. But yeah, I just don't think we can get there this week.
00:32:52
Holmesy
um and And Josh Dunkley, I put in there, I actually had plans to try and get him as my 23rd premium next week, as I think he's that sort of perfect 23rd premium in terms of he's got a ceiling on his day and and he has um the ability to put up a bit of a stinker as well.
00:33:09
Holmesy
ah But I think now using all that money to get up to Grundy and whatnot, it's it's put me back a little bit. So I do like Josh Dunkley. I think you got to take the good with the bad. But ah we have had that theory that, you know, when you've got four gun midfielders, Lockie Neal, Hugh McCluggage, Dunkley and Will Ashcroft, sometimes they're going to be up and sometimes they're going to be down.
00:33:27
Holmesy
and And we just saw Josh Dunkley ah be up for that game against Paddy Cripps off the back of 14 tackles.
00:33:33
Jon Harmey
Thank you.
00:33:34
Holmesy
All right, boys, let's get into the questions now. But just a reminder to the listeners, PodPod AFL has partnered with Q Platforms in 2025 to help answer all of your AFL fantasy questions.
00:33:46
Holmesy
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00:33:58
Holmesy
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00:34:12
Holmesy
um I need you to rank the order of priority to trade out when you've got Martin, Cherry, Rosie and JHF. So he's got the four, the quaddie, not the good quaddie.
00:34:23
Holmesy
Talk Hawker through priority of trade out.
00:34:27
Lew
Well, it it sounds like Martin and Horn Francis are going to miss the rest of the year. um So for me, Martin first, he's got the ACL, that's nine to 12 months, followed by Horn Francis, who is going to miss the rest of the year with foot surgery.
00:34:43
Lew
Then it's between Sherry and Rosie. Now we know Sherry's got the three-week suspension and Rosie's got the broken hand. By what it sounds like, Rosie probably could play this week, albeit it'll be ah a little bit of a risk. I think we will see him within two weeks, though, with a bit of a handguard there and is the most likely to return. So for me, I think Rosie's last in that list. So I'd be trading um Sherry ahead of the rest.
00:35:14
Holmesy
Yeah, so I think you've nailed it, Lou. When you've got Martin and JHF that are probably out for the season, they've both got to go but they they can't both go this week because he's also got Cherry that he needs to deal with, and if he doesn't deal with Cherry, then he's going to have a donut, right? So...
00:35:30
Lew
Yep.
00:35:30
Holmesy
I hope he has ah hope he has cover on the forward bench, whether it be a a May, a Lohman, a Moyer, whatever it is. um I would be trading Cherry and Martin first because they have the most cash um and you can use that this week.
00:35:45
Holmesy
If you're in Harmi's position and you're looking to trade Cherry and JHF, um as he mentioned before, you're quite stuck on options. So i would go Cherry, Martin first, and then you look to get out JHF the week after and Rosie should be back by then.
00:36:00
Holmesy
However, Lou, I will throw it back to you. If it does come out this week that Rosie might miss a couple, would you consider moving Rosie and Cherry knowing that Rosie is 1.02 mil and you can get far more creative with that cash?
00:36:14
Lew
Um, yes, I would, but I don't think we're going to get that information. And I'm pretty confident that Rosie will be back in just a couple of weeks.
00:36:25
Lew
So he's going to be the least amount of time missed. So I'd be hanging on to him and perhaps covering him with a McCarthy type, which we've been spruiking for a couple of weeks now can be our 23rd premium. This is a perfect opportunity to to see if that theory floats.
00:36:42
Holmesy
Perfect, Lou, and that's a good segue. Harmy, this one's from Marcus. He also has X, Martin, and Rosie with McCarthy covering. He wants to be aggressive and trade out Cherry and Rosie.
00:36:54
Holmesy
So it's either Grundy and Luke Parker or Gorn and Myers. So which one do you like better there? Grundy and Luke Parker or Gorn and Myers?
00:37:04
Jon Harmey
First, the two old guys, Grundy and Luke Parker. um ah Look, I wouldn't say Gorn has been that amazing himself. So um looking at the the you know last five weeks, you probably have to take Grundy over Gorn.
00:37:19
Jon Harmey
And yeah, I'm quite happy with Parker over Myers as well.
00:37:25
Holmesy
Yeah, Gorn's run is about to open up though. And that's where I suppose, Lou, we should have mentioned before, if you are keen on Gorn, but you don't want him this week, knowing that Carlton's a tough matchup and he's still got a break even of sorry, 150, I think that is the...
00:37:40
Holmesy
Potential play to put Luke Jackson into the ruck to then target Gorn for 40, 50K cheaper next week when he gets into his good run, Harmy. But I do agree with your answer to that question.
00:37:53
Holmesy
Lou, this one's from Sean. Hey, guys, going Cherry to Grundy for both trades. Would you do Rosie to Whitfield and hold Martin and field May or Martin to a picket slash Warner, which holds Rosie and then fields McCarthy for the week?
00:38:10
Lew
There could be 30, 40 points between McCarthy and and May. So I think I'm going to go with the latter there.
00:38:20
Holmesy
yeah Yeah, I agree. You hold Rosie. He's the test for this week. um And he might even only be out for just the one. I know Whitfield is such a good target to have. um But I think it's better off getting rid of Martin and doing the second option. You never know if there's carnage again next week. And if you're still stuck holding Martin, um then that's when you find yourself in a world of hurt. So yeah, Martin to Pickett or Warner and then play McCarthy this week. Harmi, this one's from Ninja Spoon.
00:38:48
Holmesy
Looking at 2026, is Rosie someone we should just fade? So he's talking about classic. Seems like he always catches an annoying injury and has a poor score every season now. So will you fade Connor Rosie to start the 2026 season?
00:39:01
Holmesy
season
00:39:03
Jon Harmey
I don't know. I wouldn't fade him purely based on risk of injury. i mean, with his injury on the weekend, it's a contact injury. it's not as if it's a recurring soft tissue. So, um however, I say that and he's going to come in priced well over 100. So that's probably the reason I would consider fading him. But, yeah, we'll wait and see how things end up come year end.
00:39:28
Lew
Yeah, he'll he'll be expensive, but he's been one of the most consistent players all year, I feel like. Even in spite of some of the tags, he's managed to get his way to a ton ah just with his versatility off halfback.
00:39:42
Lew
And that's why he's going to be priced so much next year, I think, because he he isn't that sort of player that you're describing, I feel like. I think he's one that's probably turned it around in that new role.
00:39:54
Holmesy
Yeah, and unless there's something serious that happens over the next five weeks and he's back to being a full-time midfielder, Lou, he should be keeping his defensive status as well for next year. So he'll definitely be someone I consider.
00:40:06
Holmesy
um But yeah, long way away there. Harmi, I'll stick with you. This one's from ah Ben Regan. If X is out, is it viable to destroy my team to get Grundy in, which means he has to put a rookie on field for Martin for one week?
00:40:20
Holmesy
Or is it better to go a Darcy Cameron type to get in a JHF slash Warner type? So do you get Grundy, play the rookie, or do you settle for a smaller four ah bigger forward and a smaller ruckman? What do you think?
00:40:35
Jon Harmey
ah Look, as a sort of um alluded to earlier in the pod, I'd probably be more inclined to go with option B and go underpriced premium or sort of moderately priced rather than smashing everything just to get Grundy in. But I say that and I'm probably likely to... um I wasn't joking earlier when I said I'll probably have a look at Kyle Lehman in the forward line um and see what he does on Friday night before I pull my trades on Saturday.
00:41:07
Jon Harmey
um So, yeah, look, it depends on what options you've got there. But unfortunately, Martin's got to go. So it's just a matter of when you do that.
00:41:17
Holmesy
I'm just trying to look. I'm pretty sure Ben's team was Daddy Danny Rich, who's been in the top 100 and even the top 10 for pretty much all year. And I think now what? Yeah, ranked 168, Captain Nick Martin.
00:41:34
Holmesy
So he's after a Hail Mary.
00:41:35
Lew
Oh.
00:41:35
Jon Harmey
Oh, unlucky.
00:41:37
Holmesy
And I can see the appeal of getting in Grundy this week and chasing the ceiling. I just wonder if there's a way to potentially... know Nick Martin's got to go. Is there a way to try and loop and see if you can get a look at a couple of the rookies first before you make your decision? you know maybe you get a Maybe you got a Harry Rosten and you can get a somehow get a 70, 80, 90 from him and and maybe have a look on the Thursday night. But yeah, that one is super tough. Lou, do you want to weigh in for a crucial decision?
00:42:06
Lew
No, I think you've nailed it there, Holmes. I wouldn't go against your advice and take mine, that's for sure.
00:42:14
Holmesy
I just, yeah, Grundy just feels like the guy to get. If you have a captaincy on it.
00:42:18
Jon Harmey
Yeah, but you see this often though, don't you? Like, oh yeah, he looks like the layup, he looks the layup, then everybody does it. Oh, he only got 80. Oh, geez, that doesn't look like that good a value anyway.
00:42:30
Jon Harmey
I mean, you're complaining earlier about Matt Kennedy who looked like the same situation about three weeks ago.
00:42:33
Holmesy
Yeah.
00:42:34
Lew
So the thing is, he did, and he's done that through a really difficult stretch.
00:42:36
Holmesy
He hasn't gone under 110 in eight weeks, Harmy. He hasn't gone under 110 in eight weeks.
00:42:41
Lew
Like this is, he's actually coming to the easy stretch now. he's He's already gone at 120 against these tougher matchups. So he is seriously one that um potentially could take some coaches' season away from them if he does get on a bit of a trot from here.
00:42:58
Jon Harmey
Oh, there, look at the next three. Yeah, Bryn Teekel, Kieran Briggs, Todd Goldstein, the duo of Darcy Ford and Oscar McEnany, Rhys Stanley with a bit of blicks, and then the Eagles.
00:43:11
Holmesy
yeah
00:43:14
Jon Harmey
Oh, jeez, maybe you're right, Holmesy.
00:43:15
Holmesy
it's says it's ah It's as good of a run as you can get. Just make sure you can fix it next week, Ben. ah Louis, this one's from Bontsville. So he has the four out as well. Let's see if you can go a ah Stato stamp of approval here. So he wants to get in Grundy, which means he has to go Nick Martin to Jack Martin, which then gets Cherry up to Grundy. He'll have to get JHF out next week.
00:43:39
Holmesy
Could you toil those areas, Lou?
00:43:43
Lew
Yes, I don't mind it. I think yeah he's clearly got a new role, Jack Martin. He's been playing well in it for a couple of weeks too. So think even ignoring the break-even, I would have a little bit of interest there. But the fact that he's got that low 33 break-even, I think that's one that you can um trade into as a little bit of a safe space. He's going to make you some cash and then wouldn't be one that I'd be too keen to hang on to for too long, but ah one that can...
00:44:12
Lew
make you a little bit of cash and then you can parachute off of in a couple of weeks time. So yeah, I'd be ticking that off, I think. And I think a lot of coaches will be looking at similar sort of creative ways to do the same.
00:44:26
Holmesy
Yeah, I actually don't hate it. St Kilda at GMHBA, but please just have a plan to to get out of him ASAP. um Yeah, he's an injury waiting to happen or a poor score that we don't want on field at this time of year.
00:44:40
Holmesy
Bondsville, but yeah, I don't mind the thinking. And if if Grundy's the guy that you have to get, then going to have to take a haircut elsewhere. Harmi, this one's from Tim Ashworth. Hi, Holmesy. New here, ranked 58.
00:44:52
Holmesy
Well done, Tim. ah He wants to know, Stato stamp of approval, Harmi. Martin to McRae and then Rosie to Sheezle if he wants to trade out Rosie.
00:45:05
Jon Harmey
Well, he's only given us one option. um Martin to McRae, I like that. Rosie to Sheasel, I'm not convinced, but I think he's sort of saying that he wants to trade Rosie to be aggressive and Sheasel's the best he can get to if he already has Whitfield. I've traded in Whitfield on the weekend too and that was great. um Yeah, Sheasel, anybody that springs to mind, Holmesy, that...
00:45:33
Jon Harmey
um You'd go all other than Shazel.
00:45:37
Holmesy
um but Without knowing his team, I'm not going to go into too much details. I will say I wouldn't be looking to trade Rosie if you've got McCarthy as cover this week playing Richmond. um I'd be looking to hold him and just taking that score.
00:45:51
Holmesy
But... Sheezle has role uncertainty as well. I'm not sure if I'd be going there, um especially because he's so highly owned in the top 100. um If he does have another couple of 60 and 80 scores, which you know he can do, then that's going to give you a big leg up. So I wouldn't exactly be trading into him. Lou, this is the last question from the Carlton Blues.
00:46:11
Holmesy
He doesn't own Baz or Grundy. Who is the bigger priority? He can only get one this weekend. I think I know what you're going to say.
00:46:20
Lew
Yeah, look, I think it's probably probably Grundy. They're both at the same price point. and We've spoken about this fixture and what Grundy is capable of doing and has been doing for the best part of two months now.
00:46:34
Lew
ah Bailey Smith is running a close second. though I honestly think you could flip a coin on this one and both answers would be correct for you.
00:46:42
Jon Harmey
At least I've got Baz Smith. That's one thing that's working in my favour here. But you talked about the run earlier of Grundy, but this is the cats. So they have...
00:46:54
Lew
Yep.
00:46:55
Jon Harmey
The Saints at GMHBA. They have North Melbourne at Marvel. They have Port at Essendon at GMHBA. Sydney away, okay, maybe a hard one there. And then Richmond at the MCG. So, geez, their run is equally as good. I think they'll actually be quite similar scoring-wise.
00:47:16
Lew
Yeah, I agree.
00:47:17
Holmesy
ye Yeah.
00:47:18
Lew
um I think, though, that matchup for Grundy is leaning there for me just against a ruckless north, whereas Baz's every chance to cop a Winhager tag, I don't necessarily think he will, but he will get attention, whereas Grundy can pretty much run around doing what he likes.
00:47:37
Lew
and And you've always got the opportunity to trade into Baz, hopefully the week following for a north matchup, which would be really nice.
00:47:37
Holmesy
It's Grundy.
00:47:44
Holmesy
Yeah, no, it's Grundy this every day of the week this week. Baz has a high break even and and I think you'll find St. Kilda haven't even been. ah They've been quite tough for midfielders as of late with ah Hugo Garcia running with um people and Heaney didn't score well on the weekend. Warner didn't score well on the weekend.
00:48:02
Holmesy
ah The Frio boys, Brasher and Sarong didn't score well the week prior. So yeah, get Baz the week after for that. North Melbourne matchup. Boys, we are going to wrap up there.
00:48:13
Holmesy
A nice tight pod today. We know Harmy's got to get back to those home Renaults and figure out what he's going to do with Jason Horne-Francis and Jeremy Cameron. So thanks for jumping on, boys.
00:48:23
Jon Harmey
no
00:48:24
Holmesy
Really appreciate it. Lou, seeing as you are didn't hotspot today and and had your internet going and made it through the pod, why you give the listeners just some closing thoughts for the final couple or six rounds that we're going through to finish the year.
00:48:38
Lew
I think now really nut into your fixture and figure out who can go on a nice run to finish the year. And don't be afraid to to take a few leap of faiths. so Don't get crazy with it, but this is the time of year where you can differentiate yourself and and get ahead of the rest of the competition because I think there's probably 1,000 coaches that are...
00:49:00
Lew
or the top thousand are probably kicking with the wind a little bit and picking the safer guys. Whereas I think sometimes you can operate in the muddy water a bit and find that next guy. I know you did something similar with Zeret a few weeks ago, Holmes in it, paid dividends despite, um you know, maybe a bit of a lower score last week.
00:49:21
Holmesy
Yeah, that's it. And, you know, we were speaking all week, Lou. I was very close to going Cherry to Grundy last week. um Everything's easy in hindsight, but the coaches that did do it, they are now miles ahead.
00:49:32
Holmesy
So don't be afraid to go a little bit different.
00:49:33
Lew
Yep.
00:49:36
Holmesy
Don't do it for the sake of just doing it, but these are the types of moves that will set you up. to charge home. Harmy, thank you for jumping on. As always, make sure you're following us on X at PodPod AFL. Make sure you are subscribed to us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your content.
00:49:53
Holmesy
We'll be back next week with another round review. Hopefully this week goes better than last week. We get through unscathed and you score well. Bye.