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Season 5- Episode 31- Playing Hurt (Champions Cup Rd of 16 & Super Rugby Round 6)
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It's another fun filled episode of from those American rugby dopes. On this episode we are looking back at the Round of 16 in Champions Cup, who left it too little too late and who simply just grabbed the game by the scruff from the start. Then we hop down south for the latest in Super Rugby action including the big one in Waikato. Unfortunately, we look back at a less than good performance from the Free Jacks as well, plus a quick whip around the MLR. This and all kinds of fun between, kick back and join us!
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Podcast Introduction and Personal Updates
00:00:02
Speaker
It is. The Fantasy Robias. My name is Jared Dyke. I wanted to say it's stupid and let's move on, but then you kept going. I'm Ben Glauser. I don't like any way anybody gambled that. Collusion. Collusion.
00:00:27
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome back. It is the Fancy Rugby Eggs. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauser. Let's go, Bobby. We're both abstaining because somehow, someway, the sick bug guys both. Yeah, we're both dealing. We're playing hurt in the podcast world by being sick and pushing forward with podcasting anyway. The kid's first actual game is this weekend, so I need to, or this weekend, so.
00:00:53
Speaker
I need to do my best to heal up as fast as possible. Yeah, and no, I'm going to be running practice tomorrow, so I need to be in a little bit of form. So you're boned. Yeah. Anyway, but you still want to make sure that you check us out on your favorite podcast app, share, download, rate, review. Feedback is always welcome.
Support for Fantasy Rugby Geek
00:01:17
Speaker
And also make sure that you are buying a coffee for our good friend, the fancy rugby geek.
00:01:23
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Make sure that you are supporting him because he's a busy lad, just like the rest of us as we go into two competitions for the rest of the season, the rest of the year. And he's particularly sad on this day of all days when he had to make a trade that no one would want to make. No, no. Pick him up. Pick him up. Pick me up. He's on the salt. Give him some help.
Racial Bias in Sports Discussion
00:01:53
Speaker
As always, there is no discrimination here on this podcast, nor should there be in life or in sports. We had ourselves one of those lovely double standards this week. And boy, does that annoy the shit out of me. I know Ben feels the same way. So I was just like, all right, well, thank you, you bunch of morons for giving us something to talk about.
00:02:14
Speaker
And once again, it's old white men. Oh, yeah, of course it is better. Better be at all like. Oh, but it's so fucking stupid. It's it reminds me of like when fuck, who was it? Lost his shit because ready Moss, fake moon, the crowd. And I think it was Joe Buck. It was Joe Buck. Yeah, what a douche. But now, yeah, it's.
00:02:38
Speaker
You know, a fine young woman who just won a national championship as a sophomore and one ended up with this most outstanding player, just giving it shit wise, shit housery to a player on the other team who is known for being complete shit house herself. Yes. It's like this is some, you know, like this is just some classic sports stuff, right? Not, it's not disrespectful.
00:03:06
Speaker
It's it's all in good fun. And. But it's like, hey, you want to talk shit? Well, I'm I'm the one who's walking away now. Like that. That's fine. Someone this, especially when it's the you know, the target is someone who does it. If that's the game they play, then yeah, go for it. Absolutely. Have a have at it. You win. You get to tell them about it. That's that's the rules. And you know, and nobody said boo when the white chick did it. No, not at all.
00:03:35
Speaker
but suddenly a black woman does it and the end is nigh and it's horrible. We gotta fake, we gotta stop being fake offended by shit, especially when it shows racial bias. Come on now. What are you really that upset about? What's so, that you can't see me? Really? That's that. Oh, get off it. Get the fuck out of here. And yeah, I'm walking away with a ring. Hell yeah, tell her.
00:04:05
Speaker
Let her know, especially if she'd been telling everybody else, right? So, yeah, the fact that everybody's losing their shit about it, it's just it, it just shows that we are where we are for a reason. And that's, I think what it is just symptomatic of, of just how far and especially like someone like Keith Olbermann, who
00:04:25
Speaker
You know, usually, well, he's always a fucking blowhard either way. Even when you agree with him, you're like, could you just not be such a fucking douche about it? Exactly. Reminds me of me sometimes. But like.
00:04:41
Speaker
Just when he gets it wrong, it's like, no, dude, you're wet. You're so far. You're trying like it's effort. He's trying to say the right thing rather than saying the right thing. I think that's the and that's when you get bit in the ass because like he thinks he's saying something right. And everybody's like, shut the fuck off.
Jill Biden's White House Proposal Critique
00:04:55
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No, dude.
00:04:57
Speaker
Nah, try again. And then Jill Biden wanted to invite Iowa to the White House alongside it. And they have it be like a moment of support. And it's like, no, that's not how this works. It's not how it's worked. Stop it. You would not have done it if the shoe was on the other foot. So we know why you're doing it now. Yeah, no, let's not do that, please.
Balancing Sickness and Activity
00:05:17
Speaker
We got to move past it. It was what it was. And now the problem is that I'm
00:05:24
Speaker
I feel bad. Just, you know, I'm sick. So I'm kind of falling. There's other news that's happening that's more important at the moment. So. But was it like Caitlin Clark? Is that her name? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Was the was the shit talk and I can't recall the other.
00:05:45
Speaker
Angel Reese. Angel Reese. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, and yes, as I'm looking him up, there's a shot of magic and bird. And it's like, what do you think they did all fucking game to each other? Oh, yeah. This is nothing like this is not a cheap shot. It's people who don't. Also, it's a lot of people who know sports, really. Yeah. Like, like, oh, you'd stoop to that. It's like, bitch, you don't know what I stooped to the win a fucking D3 game.
00:06:16
Speaker
That's another thing. Look, I wish I was in that position to do that. I think I wouldn't have done that all. If we're beating Mystic for a ring or something, you think we're not doing that all? God, I am so happy to just sit on them every time I'm sitting at the bottom of a ruck. What's going on down there? Having fun?
00:06:36
Speaker
Like, yeah, you go with it. And yeah, that's part of the fun of sports. It sucks to be on this. Everybody's been on the other side. You get dog walks sometimes. But like, yeah, you win. You get to talk some shit. Get over it. It's part of the fun of it.
00:06:50
Speaker
Tell somebody that it's a wee bits, especially when they, again, especially like, I don't, I'm, I, you know, me, I was never much of a shit talker, but if someone like started something, I was not afraid to, to settle up. Like, okay. Yeah. No, we're going to start to finish. And if not, you're going to be able to take what you dealt out, you know? Right. So I, yeah, that's not like, that's not my game, but I respect the hell out of it. Cause it's fine. Right. Right.
00:07:19
Speaker
I hated the people that I played against who didn't talk. I was like, well, now you're annoyed. Like you're too quiet. I don't know what the fuck to make. Shut up over there. Yeah. Meanwhile, don't forget to grab our Patreon. We've got all the fun stats for the supers going around these days. We obviously have stuff for those that have gotten into their semifinals for Prem as well coming up, but just, um,
00:07:46
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keep your eyes peeled for that either way. I did put up I didn't put up a full boom bus yeah but I did put up something for free Asian ads because obviously people are going to be in kind of a bit of a pickle going into this round here because they didn't have enough people advance or whatever so I put together a list of people that I saw available in my league and potentially could be in your league so just and hopefully it just helps the juices flow in your brain go oh yeah that's a good idea.
00:08:15
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You know, so that's all I wanted to do for that, but I will put the bust out tomorrow for the supers.
Promoting Rugby Stats and Content
00:08:20
Speaker
You better. I'm just trying to get the sheet up. I've been doing really well with that. It's going to be much easier this week. Yeah. This week's going to be what? Four games. It's four games each. Yeah. Four games. Yep. Yeah. What do we got to do with all this time?
00:08:42
Speaker
Jess has been working on the greenhouse. She's already scheduled. Ah, she's already she's already stolen that time back. I see. Yeah, we're doing some constructing. All right. Yeah, I see them. Well, I mean, it's it will. It's also the time we got to start planning shit. Yeah. Got to get my weed plants started. Attaboy. Let's do a quick go around for.
TikTok Six Nations: Ireland vs France Recap
00:09:08
Speaker
TikTok six nations, Ireland and France.
00:09:13
Speaker
Kind of what you expected. Yeah. Yeah. Although Ireland put up a fight, but again, they're just not, you can tell the lack of professionalism is hurting them because they just don't. Yeah. The contests aren't going their way. No. Like the contest within the game, you know, like the, you know, rock the tackle. It's not, they're not getting much positivity there. And that's.
00:09:36
Speaker
Yeah. It wasn't, this wasn't, I don't know. It just feels like France built that lead and somehow it's like, Oh shit. I think they poured it on second half too. Yeah. I remember it not being like terrible at the end of the first, but it was, it was three, it was 27 three at halftime, but I think
00:09:54
Speaker
They keep one right there. I thought Ireland almost scored right at the end or something. Something to that degree. Yeah. I've watched too much rugby this weekend. Right. I feel that when I watch it on that one block, I got home. Right. And this was like a blowout. So I was kind of like, OK, kind of check next. I get the point. Let's go. Yeah. Same thing. I mean, I didn't watch that. We'll get to that. Yeah.
00:10:21
Speaker
most interesting match that we can obviously with Scotland and Wales and two really for these are two teams that have massive potential. Obviously they went to the World Cup and you know, they did what they did there, but
00:10:43
Speaker
I think the Welsh Union's slight commitment, I won't say full commitment, but slight commitment to their women's game, more so than their men's, more so than Scotland's women's, excuse me, was the difference in a lot of ways. I know that's 12 points. That doesn't, you know. That's not, the margins are not, like a 12 point game in this kind of contest is not,
00:11:11
Speaker
It's small margins that just, you know, that's six point difference at each half. That's not much. It's just, you know, can you? Yeah, yeah. So it's there. Oh, and I could watch Chloe Rollie all day. And God, she's like a day. God, she's good. She I mean, you see it every.
00:11:35
Speaker
Every time she touches the ball, she's got the potential to just like, just make something happen and go the distance, obviously. And make people look silly along the way, like multiple people. She does, yeah. She's balling hand an immediate threat and it just terrifies defenses. Total problem.
00:11:56
Speaker
until you absolute until she, the only way you got to do it is if she, if she gets her hands on the ball and you absolutely s**t house her as soon as she touches it, not your bones. Like, or you successfully bracket her with two people. Cause you're not one-on-one. No. Yeah. One-on-one in space. Forget it. No, you got to get a double up on that. Yeah. No, no. I like, um, I like the way about care about it is, is playing, just playing really well. Yeah.
00:12:28
Speaker
You know, this is obviously, I think. Oh, is she trying to get a little, she is. Um, try to think of like, try to just think about like what her potential for the next one cup is. Oh, she's more than any seven. She's got, she's got years. Okay. She's got years. Damn. Okay. Oh shit.
00:12:56
Speaker
Yeah. She's, she'll be well under 30 even for the next one. All right. Good. So she's got a couple of well cups in there. Good for her. All right. So that, well, that solves that problem. She's definitely Wales is nine for a long time. Yeah. Oh yeah. She's got time. She'll, she'll get to the next two. I would, I would wager likely. Yeah. It was England then and Australia. So.
00:13:19
Speaker
So yeah, that's great. SnowSill has a few more years on her, so I'm not sure that'll be the halfback forever. But it's cool because you know these are going to be the players, because they're stud stars right now. These are going to be foundational players for these programs.
00:13:39
Speaker
Yep. That are going to be remember, like, yeah, this is like, we're, we're starting the professional game. Like, yes, thank you to all the, and there's not going to be a lack of recognition for the players who went before, but like the quality of play is just going to be that much better. And now the, the, the visibility, um, is going to make them the, you know, the, the legends, hopefully. So, um, fuck it for them.
00:14:04
Speaker
And they're going to be great too. So that's the thing. I mean, they already
Scotland vs Wales: Women's Rugby Progress
00:14:07
Speaker
are, but like, yeah, that's pretty good. And how he did that much. Right. And then once again, the professionals and kicks in even more for these teams, it's going to be, I mean, most of them play in, you know, um, the Alliance, but like, yeah, hopefully the professionals with the, the, the system to the program itself. Not just the players. Right. Right. And then over at the gardens, our own catroach was.
00:14:35
Speaker
the one in the middle with the whistle.
00:14:39
Speaker
I mean, I stopped watching it half. Yeah. I mean, as, as much as it lead up a fight last week, but that was a different animal, obviously. Yeah. England are just so fucking good. Yeah. And they just like, they can turn, continuing to turn out talent left, right. And so, you know, the, the Jess express was in full flow. It was, yeah, it was, it was tough. Obviously Dow Dow got what for.
00:15:06
Speaker
in the end. Fuck. Did she? Yeah. Let me look, let me look. Yeah. Four, one, two, three, four. God damn you. Yeah. McDonald's. Packer each had a, had a brace. Like, yeah. Tough old day at the office for the Missouri. Yeah. Like, okay, good. We don't have to play poppy Cleo. Oh, wait.
00:15:26
Speaker
Oh, I know. She said so because she was hurt. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like that was like the first Six Nations game she's missed in years. Many years. Many years. That's like I don't think like not to say she's not a good player, but I think even she said she's like, they'll be fine without me. Yeah, I'll be back clearly. They'll be all right. Well, and they have because they have. Not that, you know, Sarah Hunter wasn't worthy of her spot or anything like that, but
00:15:56
Speaker
Kabeya is now the new addition to the back row of this thing. And it's like, okay. So you had this little, and they had been playing her here and there. So it's not like this is our first time around, but they had been prepping her and like, it's like, all right, you're going to be the new addition to the back row. When, you know, when, when, when Sarah Hunter's gone, I was like, God, God speed, everyone. Yeah. You're all in trouble. You're all in trouble.
00:16:28
Speaker
So it was, it was, yep. They've been prepping for this for a while and it's clear just looking at her. Yeah. She's, she's the pick. Yep. Okay. Let's go.
00:16:44
Speaker
to the massive weekend that was Champions Cup around the 16 not quarter finding it. Yeah, we're getting there. Eight matches not four. Yeah, we got half that now.
00:17:00
Speaker
Friday night, Lester and Edinburgh. The weather just kind of killed the whole thing, so yeah, every hard fight and a half did this. This was their whole season. They yeah, they're doing dog shit in the URC. You know, they're probably not going to qualify next year for this, so.
00:17:17
Speaker
They needed to put everything they possibly could into this whole thing. And yeah, they picked a decent lineup for it too. I don't think there's a question about that. Darcy Graham, Duhan, Kinghorn, Bafelli. Yeah, they had the right guys on the pitch for those sake. But they just couldn't tackle Jasper Vese. Yeah. I mean, they were talking about
00:17:42
Speaker
Vs versus crackle and be they pick crackle on form and like this has to be a master stroke by wiggy because there's no way no you're picking one of the other picking crack. No, I'm full. Oh, no, the fuck got here to me. I bet we he was just trying to piss him off. It worked. That's the only logical explanation. There's nothing else that actually makes sense. Yeah.
00:18:11
Speaker
And it worked. And yeah, Jasper was fucking pissed. He came on right at half and he made you remember it. That's for sure. Yeah. And he was like, no, you're not tackling me down here. None of you are not. You're not. You're no, I'm just going to score this try. Get the fuck out of my way. And yeah, there's like, he's just one of those guys who when he decides to not be tackled that. Nine times out of 10, he's not going to be tackled. No, no.
00:18:40
Speaker
Yeah. And just, it was too much, you know, we, we, this is a, this is still the premiership champions and they're obviously, you know, their quality. It looks, it looks like they're going to get into the semi-final there.
England vs Italy: Women's Rugby Dominance
00:18:52
Speaker
So yeah, that's, I mean, that's a game you got to have that grit to win when the other team is like scratching and clawing and biting. Cause that's all they have. Like if you don't answer that back, you're going to lose. And, um, I was very impressed that that, cause just cause the way Lester had been playing, um,
00:19:10
Speaker
their fronting up has not always been there this season, which is why they're, you know, where they are in the standings. But if they could play like this, yeah. I mean, that's why I'm glad Saris installed the flame anymore. Yeah, no kidding. Um, Saturday, kind of joker of the day, low sports has fucked something up again.
00:19:37
Speaker
Yes, there will be zero for them though, because of course not because Who else is gonna have champions cup? Why get better when you can just keep collecting money? But anyway sharks a monster I can watch this match because I didn't want I wasn't able to watch it live and the replay is not available yeah, and I think I was well, I was not able to watch this live either until after halftime and
00:20:04
Speaker
No, my pimpy was ridiculous. And that's really all I could tell. I mean, we all knew that. Yeah. He had, he had a ridiculous run for a trial. Like just a couple, a couple of ridiculous plays. Like I was just stop it. Especially cause I think it was playing against him. So stop it. Stop it. Yeah. It's.
00:20:29
Speaker
Yeah, it was a tough ask, but at least we can move on to, you know, Harlequin's stormer. Oh, wait, wait, couldn't watch that one either. Similar to that last one, except I you know, this time, you know, I hung around and after half it, it clicked on also. And yeah, Quinn scored for three tries in the final 10 minutes to make it funny. Interesting. Yeah. You know, imagine if they played that
00:20:54
Speaker
Balls out all match, but I don't know. I can't imagine that because I didn't see the first one in the first half. We can't watch the first half. So I can only imagine how they played. Yeah. Can only like seriously. Dombrandt had two tries, though. I didn't realize he had one. I knew he had one. I didn't know he had the other one. Another one. He had the one to start him. Three minutes and three minutes in, three minutes to go symmetry. Look at that. Isn't that cute?
00:21:21
Speaker
Yeah. So anyway, moving on. Uh, look, so actually probably the match of the weekend, not that wasn't in Sandy park was this one. LaRochelle and Gloucester. And I'd say this probably was only because the expectations of this one were very different. The expectation was obviously that LaRochelle was just going to walk and you and I, neither you nor I expected different either. Right.
00:21:46
Speaker
You know, and, and fuck Gloucester, you know, but it's funny because I believe someone familiar to me said that they should that Gloucester should play Billy 12 trees at 10, because he's the better playmaker and that'll free up the centers and then
00:22:05
Speaker
It's to go play fullback, which is where he does his thing best. For this team. Right. For this team. And fuckboys kind of worked. Worked out all right. Yeah. Worked out all right. There was some wonderful tries in this game. It was not fucking embarrassing. Yeah. Both ends. They really were. There were some awesome looking tries.
La Rochelle vs Gloucester: Thrilling Match
00:22:33
Speaker
obviously the one that got the lead for Lauer-Seltier, but the first Harris try was great. Frederick Clark, just stop, just stop, stop. Stop it. Oh man, that's the Freddie Clark we need. Yeah, right. It's funny because we've been talking about him, not so much on the pod, but off of it, because like we miss the good, like he was so fucking good last year. Yes. Like unbelievable.
00:23:02
Speaker
And we haven't seen a lick of it until just there. And I would like, as soon as he caught it, I was like, okay, that's not a wing. But someone really, who the fuck? And then I was like, wait, is it? Could it be? And yeah. It's a play. It's Freddy Clark. It's Freddy Clark. Flying through the air. Flying through the air. Getting it up, getting it down. Like, you know, like he's done it a million times. Like he's done it his whole life. Right. Good to see him back.
00:23:31
Speaker
Hopefully this is a spark for in that, that like, I really hope this is a spark for Gloucester because they need it. They need to play like this in the prem. If they play like this in the prem, I mean, shit, this was, this was the, the, you know, champions of Europe. Like. Yeah. You play like this in the prem. You're going to win a lot of games. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. You can, you can do yourself a lot of favors.
00:23:54
Speaker
Harris put his hand up and down at the same time. Yeah throughout the game Yeah, he's He's still a really good center. Yes. Yes. He just made a couple of silly decisions. You did I did not like okay, so this has been in my crawl a little bit I've seen some video of it Obviously, we saw a lot of fucking replays of it that we didn't fucking need to see. Thank you. No No, they call him hit on a
00:24:20
Speaker
or not, just to fucking clean out of his knee on Ackerman. Yeah. Do we, do we know? Do we know the status of Ackerman at this point?
00:24:39
Speaker
See what the Googles have to say. Yeah. Um, that'd be good information to have. No, I don't see any. Okay. Yeah. The extends is contracted Gloucester and yeah, I don't know. I mean, at least, um, at least columns get incited. Yeah. That's that shit doesn't need to sit for a bit. That was, it was such a poor, it wasn't even a really good attempt at a crock roll. No, that was a shy one. Like, yeah, there's certain, like there's.
00:25:10
Speaker
I just, I don't want to get into the hole.
00:25:13
Speaker
What's his face from Eugene rugby talking about? Get rid of rocks. Well, that's stupid. Right. But like there's already a rule for this, which I really like. It's like you have to try to keep your feet. And at no point was Cologne trying to keep his feet. No, he put his arms around Ackerman's midsection. And then without really grasping, just flopped over and twisted. Didn't flop. He twisted.
Leicester vs Edinburgh: Tactical Analysis
00:25:37
Speaker
And it's like, yeah, that's what's going to happen.
00:25:40
Speaker
Good. That's why they didn't change their rule, but they said this is the kind of new interpretation of it. Yes. And it's the correct interpretation. I love it because, yes, it's got to take these hits out. And so what I'm thinking about is, you know, before he even makes the hit, the ball is no longer theirs because that's a penalty no matter what.
00:26:05
Speaker
It's holding on, you know, Ackerman had his hands clear on the ball and was pulling it. And I don't know who was at the bottom of the run, who was the tackle player, but they were clearly holding on. That was already, it was already a penalty. So at that point, you know, if I'm the coach, what, here's what I would think of is, okay, I hate that shit when the players hold on for no reason, like let them, let them have it. I'd rather have a turnover than a penalty. Cause a penalty gives them a very easy, clear cut attacking chance.
00:26:34
Speaker
right away. Whereas, yeah, turnover, they can fuck it up and turn it right back over. Right. And if you go in, if they let Ackerman poach it, and then
00:26:44
Speaker
Colom comes in and tackles him down while keeping his feet and then gets his hands on the ball. That's a turnover right back. There's no support there. It's super easy to do. For safety and for possession, I would almost do that. I think that happened in the Reds versus Crusaders game. Yeah, I think it did too, actually.
00:27:06
Speaker
okay, you took it, we'll take it right back and we'll play on it. It was fine then turnover again. I actually asked Carrick about that. I was like, do we have stats on like turnovers right after turnovers? Like how often that happens? And he doesn't, but I'm like, now I want to know because, you know, if you poach it, it's so easy to get it to turn it right back over. So, so much better than blowing a guy's knee out and then getting. Yeah, let's not do that. Let's avoid that if we can.
00:27:31
Speaker
Please and thank you. Sorry for the rant, but I mean, obviously back to it. Just couldn't hang on really in the end. Lost are really, really fucking stupid. Like just aimlessly piling into rocks, committing really dumb penalties, giving La Rochelle all the chance in the world to get that final try, which they eventually got the right. It was great, better, better attacking footwork and offense from.
00:27:57
Speaker
But like, of course, you get tomorrow over, but oh my, just so much stupidity in the way they were going after rucks and really just aimless. It really were. I was like, guys.
00:28:09
Speaker
You're completely all blowing your load right now. Like, you're clearly losing your mind. Like, I know the pressure's probably getting to you, but like, dude, don't just fly into rucks aimlessly because they're dead, usually. And to me, again, the penalty at 70 minutes that 12 trees took, well, go for it. Really go for it. And that's why they lost, ultimately.
00:28:39
Speaker
Well, it's a triscoring contest and we'll get to more of that in a little bit, but this is a triscoring contest. Oh, we'll get to that right next, actually. Oddly enough. Yeah. Lancer and Ulster at... Oh, I was thinking, I had the next one. We got one more. We got one more. All right. Next.
00:28:57
Speaker
Calm yourself down. Yeah. We still, we still have, uh, Linster and Ulster and you said, you said it before we hit the button, um, arm wrestle really is the best way to describe
Champions Cup Highlights and Analyses
00:29:09
Speaker
it. Yeah. And Linster like kind of won every single matchup in the arm wrestle. So yeah, they did. They really were. It wasn't really a pretty game. No, by no means, but I don't, I, at no point.
00:29:25
Speaker
didn't really feel like Lezner was out of control. And I know, don't hit the penalty on 10, but I was like, really? Yeah. Like, yeah, they just, they calmly built the score. They had, you know, they had the bear try and a couple of burn penalties on top of it all. Burn was great with his foot. Bear was fucking amazing. Yep, he was good, you know.
00:29:49
Speaker
that taste of international rugby, you come back to, you can't come back to this and oh, wow, everything just makes so much more sense now. But look at that. Hey, you said, don't hit the penalty 10 minutes. When did Bern hit his first penalty? Shortly after it was 11 minutes. Like right away, go down to the kick off. Yeah. Right. Fucking go for the fucking corner. This is this is this is a try scoring competition.
00:30:18
Speaker
Until you have a try, it's certainly until you have a try on the board, fucking corner. Don't kick. Just gets you in trouble. The, the, the, the, the next thing you know, like, yeah, 15 minutes after that. And it's, um, what is it? 10, 13, 13, three. Right. They went back and scored a try themselves. That's good. That's a good response. But like.
00:30:43
Speaker
Man, you're one chance down and you get them away three and then all of a sudden you're down 13 because that's the way the game's going. Right, right. Yeah, it was, and they just slowly built it and, you know, they, they picked and they, and they prodded and they found, wait, you know, Gibson Park scooted over and, or quite, quite ugly, ugly muscle today. That's what props do sometimes. Yep.
00:31:07
Speaker
Luke Bierce is having a rough couple of weeks. Dude's just getting, just got to leave with a few bruises after the next few weeks, it seems. Uh, we just stamped on his foot, got ran over last week. Just like, it was a fly too. He's like, just hit me. Yeah. Think a week off, Luke, you'll be fine. Right. I need it. Uh, I guess we're in Montpellier down to the wire.
00:31:38
Speaker
And yeah, but oh, man, just can I just say fuck this game? Yeah, I was so annoyed by this game thing. Like, all right. And this is funny because, like, Joy, I have never had a problem with Joy Neville before. I've always thought she's done a fantastic job. This match. She just fucking fucked it.
00:32:03
Speaker
She was like, anytime Montpelier did something good, she's like, no, I see something that's ticky tack that I'm gonna put out there. I'm sorry, that wasn't how to knock on. When it's in a rock, you're at the bottom, you can't play the ball, you can't move your hand. Yeah, the guy pulls it back and then it bops off your head and hits your hand again. No, that's just in the rock. That's just all that is. It's a shit rock. The defense is fucked with it. It's a rip backwards.
00:32:32
Speaker
It's just play on. It's the live ball. He's not able to touch it. You know, it shouldn't be like, oh, the letter of the law. Yeah. But come the fuck on. Like, let's be let's be serious now. That's not a serious ruling, especially to overturn that, like to go through all that race was right there and didn't care. I'll just play on. Yes. Yeah, it was really, really fucking stupid. Yeah. And that was just the one that I saw that. Yeah.
00:33:00
Speaker
I also thought the Mercer red should have been a yellow, but at the same time, I get why they're doing it. Right. He was upright. And yeah, I get it. Yeah. So a little dynamic in there, but yeah, I mean, right. Exactly. You can't blame him for landing on the right either. Exactly. Because it's like, no, just get yourself out of the situation. That's that's what the player is going to have to learn to do. Yes. If you're going to make a double tackle, you go fucking low or you just don't do it.
00:33:28
Speaker
Yep. Absolutely. The days of the lazy shoulder are gone. Yeah. You can't do that no more. That's the thing in the past. It's good for good reason. Absolutely. I think it's someone who used to use that, but I never went for the head. So it's like, they are not going for the head either. So no.
00:33:48
Speaker
I do want you, I do want to give credit to Chris Langdon who came off, who had to come off the bench very early in this match and had a ripper the whole way through impact left, right and center from the first minute. He stepped on the pitch all the way to that last minute of extra time there. Yeah.
00:34:08
Speaker
But yeah, you as you said, it was a try. It's a try scoring competition. And look where what happens. The team is one of the most tries gets to go through. Right. You know, it was a tie. But yeah, it was a draw. But more tries wins. So that I did not know. Yes, I think I feel like I should do that. I knew that. I knew that before even before the one last year, the monster to lose. I knew that was the case. Yeah, that's right. Because it happened last year. I was like, I feel like I knew that. But it was one of those, like, I guess I'd just forgotten. Yeah. No, that was.
00:34:39
Speaker
That did come up last year, obviously, when they, when they went to their penalty kicks. But yeah, I did remember that because it's more often it's talked about funny. Um, when they, yeah, you have something that's close and in this type of situation. So anywho.
00:34:56
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, I'm not excited that eggs are gone through, but Hey, they, who are they playing? Stormers, which is tough because you got stormers, good traveling, brutal fucking trip on brands, but there should be, yeah. If I'm the stormers, I almost might, might leave early. Yeah. And I know it's really annoying for players and I appreciate that, but
00:35:21
Speaker
It's not annoying, but there's, there's 80 minutes there where it's really not annoying. I can tell you. Right. Right. No, but like you just have to put it in the player's hands and be like, listen, I want to consider this. What do you guys think? Right. Cause it is going to be a bit of travel. And if you can somehow negate it by getting some of the travel out of the way early and then getting your legs back under you, I think it'll help a lot. And yeah.
00:35:49
Speaker
You know, we didn't get to watch a lot of the Stormers, but they were just blitzing the Quinn's apparently up until. And
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00:35:55
Speaker
that's going to be a. Yeah, I'm interested to see if because that's like the Achilles heel of.
00:36:00
Speaker
Oh, the Exeter is that open play. Right. So we'll see. Like if they can bring that. Yeah. Yeah. Then that'll be interesting to see how that how that works out. Also, again, just a what I thought was a shit performance from Henry Slade. And no, I will not be taking further questions on the matter because I'm done with them again. Yeah.
00:36:23
Speaker
over it. Three missed tackles. Yeah. I mean, they made 12 cards still fucking three. Yeah. Three bad missed tackles on a card like a card. Not good. Yeah. So those bulls never really out of out of the question really should to lose like just very calmly and slowly turn the scoreboard over. Yeah. It was not they didn't.
00:36:50
Speaker
Yeah, well, obviously Bulls don't even got on the line. Like, that's enough to tell you what you need to know. Hey, but I got that penalty first minute. That helped. Making that decision in that first minute can be so huge in terms of how this game is going to go. And I feel like the penalty is such a neutral way to go.
00:37:17
Speaker
And also, you know, the, the second penalty they kicked, you're down nine and you kick a penalty again. And then again, later you're done. Yeah. You're down six, but like, don't you got to start, especially second half from one of the score points and really going over, man. Like the, yeah, that's just, it's not going to get it done. You have.
00:37:43
Speaker
Yeah, and you have Grubbler, who everybody is saying should be behind, you know, next in the pecking order for a spring block hooker. So if you really believe that,
00:37:55
Speaker
Use them. Use them. Yeah. Get it. Get yourself into the corner and see how it works. Like, yes, I know this tools pack is big and strong. Don't tell me something I don't fucking know. Right. You just you got to you got to back yourself at some point. Right. And contrary to popular belief, the mall is not just about size and strength. It's there's like so much more to it. If you if you're in better position and you're more disciplined at it, you can beat a much bigger pack like
00:38:23
Speaker
But you got to give it a shot. Yeah, that's that's backing yourself. Say we don't we can we can find there, you know, the path leads resistance within that that group of guys. And if you can't, well, then you spin it out to backs who are, you know, still in an overload situation. Like, go for it. Why not? Yeah, it's an advantageous position either way. Right. Yeah. So what sort of happens if you miss it, if you fuck it up, if you knock it on. OK, well, then you get another line out like 30 meters back.
00:38:53
Speaker
Yeah, I had it again. Can't try one more time. Right. Toulouse did do it. Freddie's in Java, Keaton. Curlyardons are balled up. And Moody, really. There was the one chip through that just didn't stay in play. And that man, I would have paid money to see who was going to win that fucking race because it was the two of them. And I think Ramos was coming across. Maybe LaBelle. I don't remember which one it was, but I was like, oh, stay in play, stay in play, please. I trickled out. I was like, shit. I would have paid money to see that one go down to the wire.
00:39:23
Speaker
Because, yeah, there was a lot of green grass, but there was a huge runnin' hard to get to that thing. Yeah. Doop a touchline. God damn you, touchline. Somebody shut up that coyote. And then let's go to Barnet. Happened at the same time as Toulouse. And, you know, kind of nervy to start, obviously.
00:39:53
Speaker
You know, 13 and for a while. Yeah, I was I was definitely shitting the same thing. Why are you fucking? Why are you picking for points? Yeah. What the fuck? What did that get us in the end? They had to. They had to be a point where they just decide, you know, let's fucking just go for it. Yeah. Like done with it. You've got two of the best hookers in England. And yeah, I get well, he's, you know, not you know, he's he could start on a couple other prem teams.
00:40:23
Speaker
Right. Yeah, he's not like, well, you know, some of the non English, like, you know, Matosia, but still, he's right. He's still fucking good. And you got obviously you got Jinx, like, that's what that's what they're good for. And you've got Mauro fucking Itoji and you've got Billy, like, got these guys who can ball, like, go for it. You know, it's fucking and, you know, I was talking about the wrong vuna polo there because Mako was
00:40:50
Speaker
Yeah, Michael's on fire. He was ridiculous. So why, you know, and I guess they, you know, he hadn't shown it quite yet, but it's like, just let him, let him give it a shot. Because that's what's going to get him in there and get him going. And once they loosened it up, it got better. Yeah, exactly. It's pretty clear. Of course. Yeah. What was like that? Oh, no, they won. Did they win the scrum at the event? Well, how that had, how did Maryland get that first try? It was off of a.
00:41:18
Speaker
Um, yeah, they want, they, they want a scrum penalty and eventually the ensuing mall and was there. Yeah. Oh no. Do they tap and go? It was a tap and go or something. Yeah. Yeah. But either way, it was a score at that point. Yeah. And they did. And they did. They need to score at that point. Right. And max is, you know, if you need to score and you max is one of those players yet, you, okay, you, you get the ball.
00:41:48
Speaker
Do your thing, man. You're one of the people who we're going to rely on to do it, and fuck if he didn't. Twice. He's a brilliant player. Right. And I have always loved and had good things to say about Duncan Taylor. Oh, man. I'm hearing talk out there about people saying that I've said things about Duncan Taylor.
00:42:15
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, I was like, wow. True. I was like, who? Oh, wow. That's Duncan. Holy shit. Yeah. Who did not have that one on my regular board. But I'll take it. That was funny thing is I'm yelling at the TV. I'm like, he touched it. He touched it. It's our line out. And then I see them throw it in quick.
00:42:35
Speaker
Oh, yeah, I was like that too. I was like, oh, never. No, no. Nobody said shit. She never happened. Never happened. I was like, oh, boy, are they going to call this back because I was like, and it's definitely not their line out. I mean, they would. We've seen it happen. It happens sometimes. Right. Right. Because they'll blow it. Like I thought as soon as you went to go quick.
00:43:00
Speaker
And it was like, I was in as soon as you throw it, I was like, OK, they're going to blow this dead. And it's like, no, they're going to they're going to see what happens here. OK, I mean, look, I'm I'm just I'm just Kelly. I. I did not. But he annoyed me like his performance terribly much. But that one, I guess he got absolutely right. We'll go with that. We'll go with that. That's fine. Yeah, I.
00:43:27
Speaker
Loads of credit to the Ospreys for a lot of things. Reese Webb's still a pain in the ass. He's actually quite good. Yeah. When did that happen? Yeah. He's coming back and forth. Karen Williams was obviously on fire. Fucking Morrison roots. Fucked them both. They were good. Not so much. Not so much their front row, though. Hey, Nicki Smith had one good run.
00:43:57
Speaker
Yeah, and somehow that makes the gates for the three or four times Richie only kicked his ass in the scrum. Yeah, yeah, we got what like he was and should be told there were probably three or four other penalties that say maybe two might four might be too many but two or three other penalties where the touchy on that side was penalizing Smith and amateur Kelly one nothing to do with it.
00:44:18
Speaker
Yes, you hear white, white, white over the right. And I was like, are we not going with the penalty? No. OK, I mean, I'm I want to play advantage on those. I hate the referees. I just blow it dead. Like Adamson is so averse to playing advantage. It annoys the hell out of me. But yeah, I guess we were. There was a yeah, there was a time where he went like he went like right to deck.
00:44:40
Speaker
Yeah, that's that's him. That's him. Yeah, he's like, no, no, we'll just reset it. It's like, what the fuck? And even that that was when you could hear the touchy and then the touches even like, yeah, but one white went down, was like clearly never never holding their weight. And because I think
00:45:00
Speaker
Or maybe it was, you know, maybe it was the other guy. Maybe it was Francis on, on, on Mako. Cause maybe it was the third, the other way, either way. Fuck. It was annoying that. Yeah. Saracen should have had even more scrum penalties. This is really what I'm getting at. Which he only had a holiday. So in there, especially even had to come back on. Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:19
Speaker
Yeah. I was like, Oh, okay. He's back on. When asking him came on though, I was like, Oh, this is going to get interesting. Isn't it? And it didn't quite come to fruition, thankfully. But I was like, Oh, this, this just got weird. I feel weird about this. Not good. I'm glad he's back. You know, he's had so many fucking injury struggles, but they, so, so goddamn talented.
00:45:42
Speaker
but yeah but he didn't did not really factor in this one no he didn't which was quite shocking in my in my mind yeah so but in the end you know the i don't say that like he didn't do anything i just mean he didn't
00:45:54
Speaker
They didn't score any points with him in the game. No, no, they didn't. They desperately needed to write that point. Yeah. In the end, Saracens, they're open. They're open up style ends up paying off better than anything else. So how about we start the game? Let's start it with that. I didn't. And here's the thing. I want to shit on L.A. Davies. They actually did OK with him in there. I was nervous when he came on. Yeah. Oh, I was too. I was like, oh, fuck, I seek.
00:46:25
Speaker
He came on, but really, that's the most you can hope for with Davies. He's just not going to... You just have to hope he doesn't fuck it up. Right. He's not going to make a huge positive impact on the game, but you just have to hope he doesn't fuck it up. How different would this game have been had, again, had Osprey's not gone for PK's second half? If they had said, you know what, fuck it. Like, that's the other thing. So here's the other thing. Not only is it the Champions Cup,
00:46:52
Speaker
You're in hostile territory in the Champions Cup, but in an elimination match against Saracens. And kicking penalties against Saracens is akin to, what, like shooting the, like, fuck, what's it, Jason Voorhees, and then kind of walking away and be like, well, job done. No, he ain't dead.
00:47:16
Speaker
Like that's Michael Myers. You fucking count them until there's nothing left. You go like, yeah, teams have been on the wrong end of that a couple of times this year, especially at the Stone X. Yeah. And that right there would have been such a big difference between.
00:47:34
Speaker
20 to 13 and even, you know, 24, 13, not alone, 28, 13, fuck, fuck that shit. You think, yeah, there's not going to be much happiness in this hour since camp. And then you're also not throwing it in, trying to go quick. Because you're behind. Putting pressure on yourself at that point. Right. And that's Duncan Taylor, you know, putting the game away. Like, not well done by Osprey's there as far as tactics.
00:48:02
Speaker
No, probably probably could have used a little bit of help on that one. Yeah, at least one of those has to be a try just to just to to really like twist that knife because you cannot. Can't fuck around, man. No, we found out.
00:48:18
Speaker
Yeah, I think I found out. Just like, oh, what's his name? Nicky Smith. Again, celebrating on your way out the door. celebration for what little impact you had and where you guys were on the in terms of scoreboard. Right. Like shell job, job not done, dude. It is not time to cheer yourself.
00:48:38
Speaker
No, no, no. So yeah, we have Leinster, Lester, Luz, Sharks, Exeter, Stormers, and Saracens get to go to a new arena. I'm going to go with Marcel de Loflondre and La Rochelle, and I'm nervous, but we'll talk about that later.
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00:48:59
Speaker
Yeah. I think if Saracens can play the way Gloucester played style-wise,
00:49:06
Speaker
They're much better than Gloucester. I'll put a lot of a shot, right? I'll have a shot. Okay. Let's go to super. Um, don't need to do too much hanging around Mount smart to start with. Oh, modern highlanders. No, no, that wasn't just a thorough ass whooping. Yep. It was H sound. Well, whooping. Um, yeah, it was, uh,
00:49:33
Speaker
Disappointing for Moana, really, in a lot of ways. I'm not impressed with Moana, really. I got to say, like some of their individual players, absolutely. But as a team, it's just not there. They're not clicking. And it might just take like, we'll get to them in a second. But Trua, I feel like we're in the same boat last year, but it's clicking for them now. They're getting it. And that's been evident for a few weeks. Whereas with Moana, it's still more of the same.
00:50:00
Speaker
Right. So maybe just going to take him a little bit longer. I think so, too. Because look, Highlanders are not a good team. No, no, but they made them look pretty good. They made them look very good. And that's not that's not preferable. Yeah, this there is some really good players on this. Harry, Harry Parkinson got over early and it's like, oh, it's that can be that kind of game. It's going to be that kind of game settled in on this one. Hold on to your hats, kids.
00:50:27
Speaker
and shaders and reds. Number one, David Murphy sucks. Get that out of the way. He is not a good referee. No, he's not great. I'm disappointed in the reds at this point. Honestly, I think a lot of people feel that.
00:50:54
Speaker
Again, they, not dissimilar, but also obviously more advanced. They have many great pieces. I don't know where the hell it's going wrong for them. You know, it's just. Well, once again, to me, it's their, their cohesiveness and how they choose to play. It's just not working. Whatever they're trying to, it's not like. Well, then they're not putting out much of an attack. Like it's just not, and you can't, you can only defend for so long. Right.
00:51:22
Speaker
Yeah, so the there was a point. I think it was. And you hit it, which is the worst part. There's a point where they were down. I think they were down 12 and they
00:51:42
Speaker
or they were down at least a couple scores. And Liam Wright pointed to the post. I was like, what? Dude, you need scores. Right. You need to, you need tries, man. Like, no, no, no. Get, get yourself into the corner and go. Like, you have an okay, you have an okay lineup. You have a decent, you know, pack, obviously. You know, maybe you don't do a drive, but you have some players that can get you over the line. You have McRite, you have Harry Wilson, like, you have Bataya, like,
00:52:09
Speaker
Get yourself into the corner and get a fucking try. Yeah. So again, it's very, very similar to the team that we've gone with here. Is, is Saruuru really a lock? He's another one. Him, and we'll talk about another guy, Hannigan. I don't know where to put them because they're not quite a loose forward, but they just don't have the strength as a lock. So it's like, we're, we're.
00:52:37
Speaker
Where are we going to push you? And I actually think you could be like why or should be there for loose forward. Yeah. I mean, I realize you don't want to take any of those three off. No, of course not. But it's like now you're you're taking both your locks off and you know, now you're you're making your locks that much. I don't know. I don't know what to I don't know how it is. But all I know is he's not really providing the impact that he did when he was playing loose forward last year.
00:53:04
Speaker
Even in reserves. He's bounced back and forth. He's bounced back and forth and found more success as a back rower than as a lock. Right. I think most people agree with that. And maybe that's it. Maybe it is the same thing as how they're just trying to
00:53:19
Speaker
Maybe get in the, the national, I think he's, I think he's better than Hanukkah and I'll give him that. I think he's better than Hanukkah and given the chance would perform better, but it's to find a home. How much of this do you think? And just to just fucking start the puzzle, but how much do you think of this is on thorn? I mean, we know this is the team that, that won a championship not that long ago. That's just looking like they just met. Yeah. It's.
00:53:52
Speaker
I think they have, I mean, they also have some serious discipline issues. That's the number one thing I think they would all say. And it's not always the number of penalties. Yes, that's a huge thing, but it's like where and when. That's also another thing. And all three of those being the trifecta of not good has basically what has been the reds in their ass. Yeah. It also hurts them that their front row was now complete poop.
00:54:20
Speaker
Right. Compared to what it used to be. Comparatively, yep. Agreed. Agreed. I mean, just losing Tupo alone, not having him is... Wasn't less than awesome, but yeah. Right. Tupo, Mafi. Yeah. Been less than awesome for their sake. Right. Let's go to Fiji. Let's go to Fiji. Over to Suba. And they perform extremely well for their own crowd.
00:54:50
Speaker
and they were fired up and the booms were out. It was great to watch. It was really, really good to watch. They were racing the clock for a while there. Let's see how fast we can put up, you know, 40 points. They came close, but it was, yeah. What was this at halftime? I can tell you in a second.
00:55:14
Speaker
Two to do it was. 33 seven. Yeah. That was it. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. The game was almost away at that point. So obviously they got one more to, to seal it, but yeah, it's obviously a really, any professional team. Don't wait till halftime when you're getting your ass kicked to wake up. Like, come on, man.
00:55:35
Speaker
and Drew are not, they're not a team you can sleep on anymore. They're not. No. And I think I get the feeling that the Rebels kind of were like, yeah, they haven't played with us yet. And it's like, no, you don't get that they actually played good teams. Like, yeah, they were good teams and they beat some of them. So right. Just like that are my guys. Yeah. It's,
00:56:00
Speaker
Yeah. I think the, I think the rebels need to find ways to win these types of games. If they want to do with the things that they're, they're dreaming of doing right now, obviously that means getting into the, into the playoff and at least getting into semi-finals territory, which would be great for them, but the demand, they gotta, they gotta win stuff like this. And I know they're away in Fiji and in a really, really tough environment, but man, if you want to be, you want to be better than Fiji, you want to be ahead of Fiji.
00:56:28
Speaker
You got this this is a game you gotta show up in and win and or at least Get a bonus point which they didn't even do that now so Yeah, less than awesome for their sake
00:56:42
Speaker
I do think Carter Gordon's actually playing really well. He's amazing. For the Rebels and considering that, you know, we just remember who remember who was there 10 for the longest or for at least quite a while. Matt Tamua was a player that you and I both very much admire. But man, he is just he's playing so well.
00:57:02
Speaker
You know, like out of the other shoes. And the thing is, he's so hard to miss because he's fucking giant and he's got the hair. And yet he's doing shit like constantly on the field. And it's like, yes. Did they not? How do you lose him? How do you lose track of the cardigan? You lose track of that. Right.
00:57:23
Speaker
Because like, yeah, like 20 minutes into this game, I'd be like, oh, fuck, he's getting the ball. OK, fuck, I got to work now. Not in his hands. Time to move, guys. Your guy. No, your man. Definitely. Let's go to. Yeah. Let's go to FMG Stadium and whack it up.
00:57:52
Speaker
And it was, I hadn't even sat down and cracked my beer yet when I turned on this match. I was like, dude, can you give me a second to crack my beer? It's like, no, I'm just going to outrun Caleb Clark. I think it was to the, to the ball. Oh man.
00:58:15
Speaker
Great start. Obviously, that was a huge start for them, too, because it turned into quite the fight in the end. It did. It was it was not an easy victory to the point where I may have jumped off my couch when the the final that the bottom and they kicked it out. I was. Yeah, it's over. God damn. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and yeah. And really. It's a seven point game. Mm hmm.
00:58:45
Speaker
Bodhi Barak gets tackled off the back of the tri area by Vai. That is huge in the end. And obviously you're not gonna just say, oh, just that. That's not how it works. But it's still huge.
00:59:00
Speaker
It's still a big, a big, a big, nonetheless. And this is still a fucking, yeah, it's Bowdoin Bear. We're talking like this, this is a fucking stacked blues team. That's yeah. They're struggling a little bit, but to hold them to 13 and especially like how many opportunities did blues get your last 10 minutes? Oh, so many. It was, it was just creaking the whole time. And I'm like, just hold on, just hold on. And they did like, it's, it's shocking. Oh, um,
00:59:28
Speaker
like to send some love to Sam Kane. Oh God. You texted me prepared to sympathize. My brain was trying to do the math. Like, the hell's he talking about? I was like, Oh, I think I know what's coming. Yep. There it is. Right on the button. I was like, Oh no. And every person watching this match, at least every dude reaches first crotch.
00:59:51
Speaker
goes uncomfortably making dad noises absolutely definitely man oh man ouch out of town yeah dodgeball out of town population you bro
01:00:09
Speaker
You were laughing about it afterwards. You got to do what I didn't even see. I was like, what did he fuck up his knees? And and I didn't see the knee at first. And then like on the second replay, I was like, oh, because I was looking at the other I was looking at the kicking leg and I wasn't looking at the follow up. And I was like, yeah.
01:00:30
Speaker
Yeah, I was looking at the highlight got the Lola when it was a low when they came up and I was like, oh, oh, oh, wow. Well, they were saying, oh, man, he's he's he's clearly in pain. Yes, he is. You're right. But obviously thought it was like, you know, it was they thought it was Achilles or knee or something. Nope. Nope. Just hit the reset button really hard. Knee into balls is uncomfortable.
01:00:56
Speaker
So anyway, glad Sam came was able to get up and shake it off for a little while for two minutes. And then you had to come out. I don't know if it was for that or but I doubt it was for that. Honestly. I mean, yes, you need a good four or five minutes to reset, but they'll give it to you if you want it. Right. They'll let you take everybody understands. Yeah. It's like, okay, we all can sympathize here. That definitely hurts. But in the end, it's a, it's a,
01:01:22
Speaker
Great win for McMillan and his crew. Yeah, I'm going to be very curious to see how far this goes for the Chiefs. Yeah, it's weird to have like, even if they weren't winning, I have zero problems with what they're playing. And I think the way they're playing is why they're winning too. It's like they're scoring points, but they're also defending like motherfuckers.
01:01:44
Speaker
It's, it's, it's hard to get that combination. So you got to kind of live in it and hope it doesn't go away for the rest of the season. Cause it's also one of those things that can, well, if they got it right this early on, I think they should be able to maintain it. I hope. Yeah. Yeah. 170 tackles. We missed 18. Wow. Wow. That too, though, compare and compare that to blue said so many for, they missed on 11. Wow.
01:02:12
Speaker
So not the percentage numbers are not awesome. Yeah. Okay. So the blues at the very least. So good. I mean, it means that when the chiefs attack, they attack. Yeah. Yeah. Possession. The territory was definitely in their favor. Yeah. Almost twice as many meters. Yeah. But in the end, you just, you know, Ben, the old, the old thing, Ben, but don't break, right? Keep them out. Take that.
01:02:41
Speaker
Um, Brumby's and Taz. So I do want to kind of just point out the one moment in this whole thing because we had, um,
01:02:54
Speaker
Harry Johnson homes, go to the bin. And then we had both to go to the bin. Yeah. Two minutes later. Yeah. Almost right. Yeah. Very quickly afterwards. Now I will credit either Faulkner, the toss from coach or both. Doesn't matter. Or saying, nope, we don't want knowing, knowing full well, if they have to go to uncontested in this situation, they're going to, they're going to lose another player, which would obviously just be disastrous.
01:03:23
Speaker
And they actually ended up nutting up. And I think they got a tryover during this period too, which was nuts. So credit to Faulkner for saying, yes, I will train. I will be our third loose head on the field or on the team or our third tight head on the team, just in case. So.
01:03:40
Speaker
Loads of credit to him and I'm glad people are trying to are seeing this and saying, all right, let's not get ourselves stuck in that situation. Let's have someone ready on the bench that can do this. You know, we look at Ireland the other week with Key and Healy coming in and being saying, nope, I can play hooker and I'm comfortable with it and just.
01:03:59
Speaker
teams are adapting, which is good. You know, you, you know, you don't want to see that, but at the same time, you also want, you don't want to encourage somebody to go down and get hurt or anything like that. Because that's a shit house that some teams would do. And Holloway got the try. Yes, Jed Holloway got the try. Jed Holloway is actually playing really well. It's not so awesome. The Tozza have been. Jed Holloway is playing really well. So give him credit. But like, so I was watching this knowing that the final, because
01:04:27
Speaker
And kind of, yeah, I didn't really, whatever, I can get spoiled by this. I was so happy that I didn't get spoiled by Saris. But I was like the whole time, like, no, Wartas are obviously winning this. Are you fucking, no way. No, this is wrong. This is clearly, this game that's on my screen is not what I saw. And no, fucking hey, good on the Brumbies for coming back. They really came back strong and,
01:04:56
Speaker
didn't quit. And I think, I think the Waratahs, I don't think they took their foot off the gas at all. Cause I think, you know, I'm walking in the last six course, 55 minutes in, that's pretty, no, we're, we're playing with this one. Um, so I didn't like the, um, the going for three though, the Donaldson at 73 minutes at that point. I was like, Oh, this is why they lost.
01:05:24
Speaker
Because they said, you know what, we're going to, we're going to go for three and then just defend. And it's like, you know, that hasn't been working out well for you the last couple of minutes. You might want to not do that. And yeah. Hands up. If you had James Slipper getting a double on your bingo board.
01:05:41
Speaker
Not, not me. That's for sure. Nobody. He was excellent though. Yeah, he was great. He is. Yeah. He definitely needs to be a runner for that in Australia. Um, and the Corey tool try at the end was just perfect. I was like, oh geez, you couldn't do it a bit. Right. Cause that's the other thing is that was the dagger as much as all the other guys have played pretty well for, for the Brumbies.
01:06:06
Speaker
Merehead, Wright, and Tool had not made a mark on the game at all yet, really. Merehead was involved a little bit. Wright was almost, he was ghostly in a lot of ways to me. And then, but, and then, yeah, Tool was like, okay, Tool's the one who's like, no, I'm getting it. Although, yeah, they had some runs, but none of them, one clean break between Wright and Merehead. That's not, you know, Tool was the one who was,
01:06:32
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, Debra CD knew, knew who was out there and he got it out there. So good on him for. Yeah. And also gave it up to Pete Samu, who was, was excellent. He's been. Finally, geez. He's been a ghost for most of the season. He's getting, no, that's right. It's good to see him back. That's what I meant to say. Yes. Yeah. No, he's, he's been a ghost for quite a bit of the season, but yes, he's, he's alive and well. So that's good. So, uh, yeah, again, another team that,
01:06:59
Speaker
I think for me, I think I have a little bit more hope for the war on top than I do the Reds. That might be blasphemy, but just it's the way the team feels. I can't argue it. Yeah. Because that's exactly it. I don't know if the Reds could build up that kind of score right now. I don't know if the Reds can put up 36 points.
01:07:19
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, O'Connor's doing everything he fucking can. Right. And I think Isaac Kennedy's actually played fairly well. Yeah, they did it against their force. OK. Yeah. Does that really count? Yeah. Yeah. That's the only other time they've broken 30 was against the rebels who they've lost to. So yeah.
Force's Challenges and Kiberige's Performance
01:07:42
Speaker
Give away a couple of stupid. 40 is not a big deal when you give up 40. Right.
01:07:47
Speaker
Awesome. So yeah, no, I take the toss because they, you know, they'll sort themselves out and they hooper still getting like in his legs back. Yeah. Yeah. Great. Great. Then to close out the weekend.
01:08:02
Speaker
Hurricane's force is probably a little flattering for the force because they got the one at the death from Kiberige. Right. And the one 15 minutes to go from Kiberige. Like he was a
Commentators' Pronunciation Issues
01:08:11
Speaker
beast the last 20 minutes. He was a, you know, garbage time hero. Yeah. Some of the, yeah. Oh, yeah. They scored a couple. They scored one at 72 minutes too. Yeah. I don't know who was commentating on this game. I think it was TJ. He needs to learn how to pronounce the guy's name.
01:08:25
Speaker
Yeah. Guys, learn how to pronounce the names, please. It's not hard. Just vote a friend from England and be like, hey, how many pronounce this bloke from England's name? Okay, cool. Thanks. Come on. Learn. Learn. And then we had the incident earlier this year where Nick Mullins couldn't spit out Tui Nukolafe's name. Right. Come on, guys. This is your job. Learn. Yeah. Tui Nukolafe is not that hard.
01:08:52
Speaker
Especially
Brett Cameron's Injury Impact
01:08:53
Speaker
with the unrepeated saying somebody's got to get done. Yeah. Yeah, please. So we'll. Man, I mean, overall, I was extremely happy with the way the games played with especially with a couple of pops back there. Godfrey and Sinkinson. Yeah, I am actually a little worried about what's going to happen with Brett Cameron. I don't know. I'm looking for it. That was that was scary. That looked less than awesome.
01:09:24
Speaker
Could be serious. Yeah. Yeah. Cameron lived off the field. That's it. Which did not, as we know, just because you walk off the field does not mean it's not bad. I can confirm. Just remember that.
Team Dynamics: Amua vs Coles
01:09:40
Speaker
Remember that, gang? It's not Achilles, but it could straighten the knee. Achilles, you cannot walk with.
01:09:47
Speaker
I walked off the field with my kit bag and my fold-up chair and I think a case of beer with a torn ACL. So yeah. Slowly, but I did it. I'm really, really satisfied with, here's the thing that Safa Amua has done. It's pissed off
Force's Goal-Kicking Struggles
01:10:16
Speaker
Dan calls.
01:10:17
Speaker
and dang holes should not be a man angry if you want to survive the hurricanes and he's mad because now and now and they have my fight Eva that's in that's in the mix now like there is no guarantees that dankles is getting a start so when he gets it he's gonna have the bit between his teeth and he's gonna go but he fucking played out his brain today he was ridiculous or in this weekend yeah he was unbelievable he was he yes more of that please if i'm the force i am a little worried about
01:10:47
Speaker
my goal kicking, and I know we're just like talking about tries and whatever, but still, the emotions are important. And, you know, being able to hit penalties when, when called upon, and when, when the time comes, is something that you want. And they've had struggles, not named Higgity, this whole time, Stuart, no, Kunzel, no, Don DeGara Simpson, to kick right now, while Higgity's still recovering, like,
01:11:13
Speaker
I'm a little worried. I can't wait for Gav Simpson to come back north. I am excited about that.
01:11:23
Speaker
He played ridiculously
Jose's Potential in Starting Lineup
01:11:24
Speaker
well this match. He's been playing well most of the time, so it's really awesome for him to see. Do we play it well in this match? I couldn't believe it. I was like, oh, shit. Yeah, he got right over. And Jose, we can't talk about it. Why is he not starting? Because he's already starting.
01:11:47
Speaker
Find a place for him. I know. Well, I mean, again, they're they there's one for choice back there. They have they have him. They have to have news played pretty well so far since his debut last year. Yeah, they have they have luck. They have obviously already. They have Flanders, who's playing fairly well this year is also playing well. So, damn, I was well for choice. They are. I just would like to see you say it's six and then just again, let him and Hardy just do damage.
01:12:16
Speaker
Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure they're considering it. Right. Because it was like if you had Jose doing that and then you had already following him up with like, you know, a pop run. Fuck that. No, I don't know. I'm kidding me. Trying to attack. Yeah. Jose gets the line break. And now you got to deal with with already while you're getting. No, you're just not. No, it's not going to happen. And that's,
Free Jacks' Win and Discipline Issues
01:12:38
Speaker
again, why I would want both of them out there because like. If he has been.
01:12:44
Speaker
better, but it's like, dude, this kid is gold. Did you play more? Definitely. Definitely. Do the free jacks. Oh, yeah. They were winning when I went to sleep. Yeah. Match was too late for me. Oh, I was still organizing shit for. Stuff right for the for the high school. So I was like, nope, not happening. It was like, I go to bed, man.
01:13:15
Speaker
Nah, nah, and sounds like I didn't.
01:13:19
Speaker
I mean, they were waiting. They were doing all right. But like, again, the discipline is like they're playing stupid. They're just doing stupid shit. And they're getting into it with it. They're getting on the. Yeah, well, that doesn't help either. But games win stupid prizes. Right. And you keep getting yellows. It's got to get better. Even like, even though they're wins, they're not playing particularly good rugby.
MLR Games Overview
01:13:43
Speaker
They're just better than the opposition. And it's like you can't. This is this isn't a.
01:13:49
Speaker
a talent competition. This is who's the best team. And hopefully this is a little bit of a wake up call to is them. So, you know, it's one thing to lose to San Diego in San Diego. Right.
01:14:01
Speaker
Utah's not that good. And winning covers up a lot, but this is one of those like, okay, no, something is fucking wrong. Oh, absolutely. It's got to get fixed starting with the position number one. Yes, please. Yes, please. I bought some tape this weekend so I can cover them up on my ticket. I didn't like it. I've already covered it up on my ticket. Yeah, I couldn't find our tape, so I had to go get it. I had the same idea.
01:14:27
Speaker
Disappointed that it couldn't get it to it last for the last time. Problem solved now. Yep. Otherwise, Dallas finally win. Finally win. They take down Toronto down in Dallas. So go on them for an hour to suffer through that for any longer. Poor fellas. Maybe this helps. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure it will give them a little bit of confidence. Yeah, maybe it's a little bit of, okay, now you know you can win. You know you're not fucking cursed.
01:14:55
Speaker
No, I mean, they probably felt that way for a long time. Yeah. It's, it's definitely gets in your head after a while after a season plus a whole season plus. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Chicago lost to Houston. Houston seemed like they're doing okay. Seattle state undefeated going down to Nola and just edging them out. Um, New York one in the, in New York, they be Atlanta, Atlanta.
01:15:18
Speaker
Might not be that good. No, and Legion speed. Oh, yeah, they rushed. Yes, it's a tough road trip to get out the snapdragon too. So well, ultimately, free jacks come away with a bonus point and so do Nola. So that's it. They just they stay. So, you know, no, no, huge.
01:15:41
Speaker
Shake up in the standings, which is no threatening in the standings at the moment, which is good. If you're going to lose a game, that's OK, fine. This is the right week to do it.
Episode Conclusion and Next Preview
01:15:50
Speaker
Absolutely. All right. Cool. All right. We are going to be heading over to Fancy Corner here shortly. That's going to be fairly short and sweet. We only got eight games. Eight games. That's it. I mean, we went to we were just doing prem. Pretty much how it's going to feel like.
01:16:11
Speaker
Right. Um, if you're not joining us over there, we do. There's no, there's no women six nations either. So it's just, just these eight games, right? Right. Um, but, um, if you, if you aren't heading over there, we do appreciate you for listening to us, hanging out with us and letting us yak and yap and yap, yap, yap in your ear for a little while. Um, we will be back next week with our semi-finalists for.
01:16:37
Speaker
Champions Cup and we can figure out what's going on with all that. With a bi-week. Fuck. Yeah, it was all super wild this week. This bi-week. We're all in trouble. Anywho, we do appreciate you all and we'll catch you all next week. Enjoy the rugby this weekend. Have a good one. Later.