Become a Creator today!Start creating today - Share your story with the world!
Start for free
00:00:00
00:00:01
Season 2- Episode 23- It's a Waaka Waaka World (6 Nations & Super Rugby Round 2, MLR Round 1)
26 Plays6 years ago
We are back for your listening pleasure...yeah pleasure, right? In either case we are here to chat about many things (hence the long episode) including off the field items (Ellis Genge you beauty). We get to chatting about the 2nd rounds of both the 6 Nations and Super Rugby with all the trimmings there. Of course we talk about MLR & our beloved Free Jacks and their opening match out in Las Vegas against our rivals from NY. Finally, we wrap with our start/sit including the return of the Premiership, so put those feet up, settle in and enjoy!
Have a question about your lineup on as the clock ticks down for game week start? Ask us questions via Twitter: Jarrod- jdyke8man & Ben- admrablsnackbar, or by using #AskTFRY. Send us your thoughts for the show and questions for upcoming shows via e-mail fantasyrugbypodcast@gmail.com. Of course we welcome feedback via e-mail, twitter or by rating/reviewing the pod on Apple Podcast.
Recommended
Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Overview
00:00:07
Speaker
Hey everybody, how's it going? It is the Fancy Rugby Games. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glaser. Welcome in. We are recording from just outside Boston, Massachusetts. It was a busy weekend. It's going to be another busy week, so here we go now. And away we go.
Rugby Discussions: On-field and Off-field
00:00:24
Speaker
It's not even just the action on the field lots of lots going around or around the field a lot of off field news a lot of interesting interviews a lot of reactions some good interviews with that one some some things that Happen that we're not quite sure why they're happening and then some things that happening when we're like, why the fuck haven't you done this before like years ago? And I think we're about to cover all of that right? Yeah, pretty much. Um, let's let's pop these things first. Oh, yeah
Podcast Engagement and Humor
00:00:52
Speaker
Everybody make sure that you're checking us out on Apple Podcast, Spotify, Google Play. Tune in, download us, rate us, subscribe to us, all those good things. No dick pics, please. Yeah, preferably not. I mean, keep them on the DL at the very least. Yeah, I mean, you know. That's my official stance. It's on the record. Is that what we're going with? Yeah.
Fantasy Rugby and TRM Upgrades
00:01:23
Speaker
So if you want to set Ben one, um, yeah, make sure, I mean, obviously we're kicking into another prem week, so you want to get your TRM upgrade and start to get your edge on there. Big time. These guys, it's only going to help you, especially, you know, lineups, who knows who's going to start because of international call ups and depends on which coach is going to be a Dick and which coach isn't. So, you know, all those things are going to be helpful. So you're going to want that thing to know who's starting at the very least.
00:01:50
Speaker
And then I'll check out our front of the fantasy rugby geek who I beat this week in one of our super rugby draft league. Still undefeated. TRFY undefeated against FRG. There's still plenty of chances to break that duck, so I'm not going to count on that. I mean, it is two of us against one of him.
00:02:11
Speaker
He's just a he's just one man. He's just one man, but he is a great man. He is fantastic filled with excellent rugby knowledge and Filled with fantasy rugby knowledge, especially and a guy who just delivers content upon content upon content So even if you uh, if you follow him, especially on the Twitter's Even if you miss something he's likely to post something new and you can go back and see what you missed anyway So absolutely
00:02:38
Speaker
Always good shit coming out of fantasy
Transfers and Coaching Changes
00:02:40
Speaker
rugby. Yeah, rarely rarely not entertaining stuff at the very least also that um, let's talk about player movement a little bit uh calum braley leaving you know, the the the the long standing, um line that is at gloster and scrum half and going to moving to it, uh, Italian club zebra, I think it was Yeah, I mean makes sense. He's obviously an Italian international now
00:03:03
Speaker
Huh, I either one. Yeah, doesn't matter because he's moving to the country he's playing for so it makes sense and he gets to You know, he gets to start more often than not. He's definitely buried in the death chart. They have two quality nines They Willie Hines and they've Joe Simpson obviously
00:03:18
Speaker
Unfortunately, when when the time comes where he can possibly get a start is when he's away, too, because he gets called up to Italy the same time. Willie Hines gets called up to England. So it's like, so this is better playing. This is one of those rare moves that's good for everyone involved. Probably. I mean, maybe not so much for Gloucester, but they have Willie Hines. They have Joe Simpson. They need somebody to develop behind those two. But yeah, they'll they'll be OK for now. It's good for Bradley because he'll get more playing time.
00:03:47
Speaker
And it's good for Italian rugby. They really need this. They need more players there playing with their players to really raise that standard. So good move. And fun announcement, too. Yeah, that was a great video. I love that. That was pretty funny. With him not answering certain things. Dude. And then Paula CK just extended it at Quinn's.
00:04:15
Speaker
Which is an excellent move also excellent move all around awesome for him. Yeah awesome person in general and you know, just all around great great great player great guy, so yeah quality quality Resign there for them. Don't know no worrying about that center position No, they'll get Marchant back back next year and that'll be a he'll be a fun combination. Yeah Good luck stopping them. Yeah, that's a that's a nice little duo there
00:04:41
Speaker
Um, and then the, the news coming out, uh, the Rico, uh, die young stepping back, quote unquote. I don't know. I think this is the nice way to say that he's not, he's not going to be part of the team anymore. They're trying to be nice cause he has spent a long time there.
00:04:59
Speaker
Yeah, and you do that respectfully with someone who's been there that long but if this is a long time coming They've been underperforming and their best players have been leaving and there's just a lot
00:05:12
Speaker
going bad with wasps. So I think this is ultimately a positive. I'm looking forward to see what they do now with a different coach and hopefully a different style of play. And they have such young talent that can do some fun things and do some real good things. So hopefully this develops them more than
00:05:39
Speaker
They have been being developed in the past. Yeah, and then the um, I don't know all the details at this point But the news that rfu are cutting funding to
00:05:49
Speaker
Championship which makes zero sense. They're having the funding Yeah, and really and to me that what this the first thing that went to my brain and doesn't mean it's accurate Is that they're trying to start inching towards ring fencing? And that's what that's what went to my brain first first thought but like I said doesn't mean it's accurate yeah, I mean I don't know what the hell's going on with RFU and I
00:06:12
Speaker
and how they want to develop this, but that's going to be bad for, you know, play a morale. It's going to be bad for the championship as a whole, like.
00:06:21
Speaker
I you know, and obviously we don't really get to see it over here. So it's not something that impacts our rugby watching But it you know, this is the how many players have we seen come through the championship and turn to dynamite players, right? Yeah, I'm like Christian judge come kind of came out of the Pirates and yep and showed his his quality for Saracens and that got him a contract and a home in the premiership like
00:06:51
Speaker
100 these players you you still need them, you know, if you can't there's there's too many clubs In the premiership who can't develop through their academy who need things like the championship to pull players in mm-hmm and and You know, you gotta you gotta make sure, you know We see this in the u.s. This is very much a u.s. Move USA rugby type move where you got to build grassroots you you don't your players don't come from nowhere
00:07:21
Speaker
No, and and they need to be able to play high level games against high level competition and the championship provides that and if you're putting that at risk I I want to know why and I don't want to know what the what the long-term benefit is that they think they're gonna see same I would be I want to be a fly on the wall in that room for sure so unfortunate stuff, um
00:07:45
Speaker
Hey, if you didn't know, MLR started this weekend. A little whip around here.
Major League Rugby Highlights
00:07:51
Speaker
Other than the obvious.
00:07:53
Speaker
What did you happen to catch any game in particular? I caught the best team in the league, the free jacks. Besides that one. No, I wasn't able to watch any of the other matches, unfortunately. I did get a chance to watch NOLA DC. DC a little depowered, definitely showing the depth problems that still exist a little bit in MLR. Sure. Missing some players and getting absolutely tongued by NOLA, who are a good team. Well, they're a good team, yeah.
00:08:16
Speaker
Um, I I think it's you know, and I asked I asked the question are dc this bad Or is nola this good? I think it's a little bit of a combination of the bulk, but nola is very good Let's just establish that right now. Right? Um The other new boys looks like they were able to take care of utah utah hasn't been as strong as they once were. Um, san diego in seattle. I watched the end of that that was a
00:08:38
Speaker
Really good game, right? Nonu was having a fucking day. Yeah, he was having fun with that I'm not sure that I can see that but I need to try to see that Yeah, you need to find a way to watch that one. That was a fantastic game Can we delete the joke groanies yet? I always might as well it was bad like uniforms like
00:08:56
Speaker
a little too Texas UT. Yeah, because they're like the burnt orange kind of thing. Yeah. No. I am not into that. What are you doing? I am not into that. No. You need to connect with the community. You need to connect with the rugby community. Not, not, not. Yeah. So sorry. Sorry. And they just look like football uniforms. They really look like football uniforms. It was ugly. So yeah. That's Texas. Thankfully, the arrows just like.
00:09:21
Speaker
put their fire out real fast and just said nope we're not having any of this crap and hosed them i mean good in a battle of canada versus texas i'm taking canada and we damn time hooray canada um but yeah let's go let's go to vegas and
00:09:38
Speaker
New England Free Jacks, 34, the New York, Rugby United New York, sorry, 14. And that was definitely a result that nobody in the US expects because all the quote unquote experts pick Rooney. Every single one. Yeah, pick Rooney. Hilarious. I was like, and then the Free Jacks decided to post, that's none of my business. Fantastic.
00:09:59
Speaker
and uh Can we talk about basterow? Eating eating is so it was funny. So we were um, we went out to the pub on saturday for for the uh, the six nations and hanging out with our rugby club And talking to some of the guys about it and and it came up as it obviously in conversation the the free jacks, uh, runny match and and Obviously basterow because we're like, oh shit. That's going to be fun to watch and i'm like
00:10:26
Speaker
You know, because we haven't seen anything from them. No. And I was like, you know, I bet Bastor eats his contract. Like, he's just going to go and he and they're like, well, he's going to travel to Las Vegas. And I'm like, are you kidding me? Have you seen the free buffets? Facts and facts. So it was a joke. And you know, I wasn't completely serious about it because, you know, a guy of his stature was going to want I would assume would have some pride and would want to show very well.
00:10:56
Speaker
Aside from him lumbering around the field like walking around the field mostly I think he had like one carry and he ran into a double tackle and got shoved straight backwards like This isn't this is not what Rooney signed him to do. Not likely so as much as you know, we're we're Boston sports fans well Boston area-based sports fans and Don't like New York that much
00:11:23
Speaker
I'm very happy to see that Rooney has signed this guy. I don't imagine he's going to do too well for them. And the kits. The kits? Oh, those were hideous kits. Orange pinstripes. Those were hideous kits. If you're a New York based club of any kind.
00:11:41
Speaker
and you want to model your uniform after one of the local baseball teams. That's not the one I'm doing. You don't go with the Mets, you go with the Yankees. Who would want to, given the choice, why would you associate with the Mets? No, we don't do that. Yeah, that was bad. That was very bad. Probably the most bizarre try we're going to see this year. Oh, yes. Like bar none.
00:12:07
Speaker
the kick from our buddy, our friend of the pod tag leader, that just took the most awkward and outrageous bounce off the post. Bodhi Nuaka is there to grab it and fall. I was like, I think that too. No, it was the eight man. Oh, was it Hemipo? It was Hemipo. Oh my goodness. And this was a kick, so it was a free kick off of a scrum from their own 22.
00:12:29
Speaker
And wind assisted. So this isn't, you know, look, Tiger has a boot on him. He does. And he used it very well going with the wind and into the wind. But this particular kick just, you know, it took off. He put it up high. So it got excellent distance, excellent help from the wind. And whoever that whoever was back there for Rooney, just I think it was voting. He'd let it bounce.
00:12:57
Speaker
I think it was Foden. Let it bounce, hits the crossbar, and right into... Your first mistake, sir. I think that's usually what they tell you to do when you're... Don't let the ball bounce. Yikes. Not much he could do. No. That wind was something else.
00:13:14
Speaker
Yeah. So it was, um, they, they did play some good stuff. They, they got on top and they didn't, they didn't let go once I got on top and they did a good job of just putting the game away. Right. And that's one of those where, you know, it was what, 22 seven at half or something like that. And you're like, okay, well they had the win the whole first half. So there's nothing stopping Rooney from flipping that in the second half. Like I was thinking that that might not, that lead was not quite safe. That was like a 30 point wind right there. Yeah. I felt like it.
00:13:39
Speaker
And yeah, Rooney never really did anything. And Freejax did a very good job even playing into the wind of maintaining possession and just holding him off. Yeah, there's a guy that got into the MLR first 15th of the week, Kenya Takayama. He led that scrum amazingly.
00:14:01
Speaker
Can we talk about some of the great names that are in this friggin' team? First of all, we have Bodiam Waka, Waka Waka. Yeah, you're not gonna stop me from doing that all year, I'm sorry. And then Brickhouse? Brickhouse, come on, man. I mean, I'm gonna, he's a loose-head prop. What do you think I'm gonna call him? And he's built like a shit brickhouse. Yes, so, I mean, great names. I really feel bad for those that tuned in from around the world and had to hear the commentary.
00:14:30
Speaker
all throughout the weekend, because a lot of it was terrible. There was one from the NOLA game. The guys that were on commentary, one of these guys was this old scrum half. And when I say old, the man is older than you and I easily. And it's like, dude, you played in the 80s. Go fuck yourself. And talking about all the things that used to be OK, and we talked about that before.
00:14:56
Speaker
Shut up. And he used to be at halfback. He's like, oh, I love a halfback that gets in your face. I'm like, I want to choke you right now. I really do. I want to hit you like really hard. I don't remember the guy's name because it wasn't worth it. But I was like, oh, this guy sounds like I was just embarrassed for the country that anybody had to listen to that game because that is actually a rugby, you know, like knowledgeable person.
00:15:20
Speaker
It's purely american hardo. Yes. Um, my bank game was better back in my day I was better back shut up. No, you weren't and no it wasn't and go fuck yourself All the above all the above um, yeah, bode mwaka did it into the first 15 of the week as well, which is awesome Well, he had two tries so and they were excellent and and he set one up not not directly but pretty fucking close I mean there between him beard and steel that was right Those three kiwis, I mean
00:15:48
Speaker
Get yourself a Kiwi, kids. Right. And three if you can, because they'll work well together. I think we had like five on that too. Yeah. Shoot. Yeah, because Himopo was one too. Yes. And there's a Fijian in there too. Yeah, we got some sneaky good talent right there. I was impressed with Poland too, that back. His service was very on point. Could have been a little faster, but you know what? For this level, that's pretty good and only being game one.
00:16:11
Speaker
Pretty good. Unfortunately, the attendance wasn't great in Vegas, but you have two East Coast teams. They're not necessarily gonna travel that well. Next weekend's gonna be huge. It was on a Sunday, too. Yes, next weekend's gonna be huge. There's gonna be four games there. Prejax will be part of it. They're playing Utah, I think. A couple of the teams that are a little closer are coming in, so there'll be fans there. Hopefully, we can get more than there was there, unfortunately. But it was a great first weekend. Who knows? The thing's up for grab. We had two of the new kids win out of the three.
00:16:40
Speaker
So it's, it's going to be a fun year. Buckles up. Um, there was other rugby too this weekend, wasn't there? No, nothing that important. Nothing as important as the free Jack's first ever match, the MLR. Yeah. And the, the answer to the trivia question is Mitch Wilson.
00:16:58
Speaker
First, first try score in free history. Yes. That's the, that's the answer to the trivia question there, kids. So when you get asked that later on, which you will, there's a quiz. There's a test later, um, Ireland and, and Wales.
Six Nations Insights
00:17:16
Speaker
What a match. Uh, brilliant job by Ireland, obviously.
00:17:20
Speaker
This is what I was hoping for when they moved on from Joe Schmidt to a real coach. I mean, to a more creative coach. To a different coach. Sorry. I had something in my throat there.
00:17:35
Speaker
They really moved the ball well. It wasn't just the hit ups and there seemed to be more of a plan and something that I've been looking for from Ireland for a while. I wasn't expecting it this quickly, but I'm very happy to see it.
00:17:54
Speaker
Yeah, they, I mean, it was really good stuff from the boys in green. Obviously a home match downing there, the defending Six Nations champions, Ireland 24, Wales 14. Yeah, Wales just seemed to be out of ideas. Yeah, and Nick Tompkins kind of hurt them defensively. He missed three key tackles. I think two of them led to tries.
00:18:15
Speaker
Bad tom bad, right? Um, maybe not directly but the one almost directly and the other indirectly I he he made up for it a little bit in the second half, but it still wasn't there um, george north Disappeared yeah, and and we talked about maybe that wasn't the place to put him probably probably not in the lane So we'll see what um changes wayne pvac makes there's still a lot to there's still a lot to go right along with the long competition. I mean
00:18:41
Speaker
Look, it's hard to beat Ireland in Ireland no matter what. But it's even harder when Ireland are actually playing quality rugby. And run into a buzzsaw like that, that's the result you're going to face. Unless you play at your peak, in which case you might lose by seven.
00:19:00
Speaker
Yeah, and look out. Good luck trying to stop tight for along the brick. Dude just scores. He's, you know, for as much as we talk about, you know, Josh Adams scoring during all these international competitions. For long, I hope he's okay. That was a little rough.
00:19:23
Speaker
But yeah, like furlong is one of those guys who yeah, you know for fantasy purposes. He's a an excellent It's a great prop Yeah, so Ireland 24 Wales 14 Ireland are looking at
00:19:38
Speaker
So far they're staring at a Grand Slam. We'll see how they got a couple more stiff tests coming up here. Yeah. Big time. And I mean that in every sense of the word. Let's go up to Maryfield in the Cockutta Cup, which wasn't all that great. Played in a
00:19:55
Speaker
Oh, it was poor weather, obviously. Was it Storm CR or something like that that was coming in? I was like, this is not going to be good, is it? No, it was not good. It was poor. It was really, it was weather that was just asking for a bad game, unfortunately, and it was not a good game. Yes, England win, you know, Scotland six, England 13. But, oh, man, a whole lot of ugliness to this one.
00:20:19
Speaker
Really, it was not good at all from either team, but obviously the better team ended up being England. This thing was on a knife edge for a long time. It just never felt like Scotland wanted to take control, though. England never really did it themselves, but Scotland just like... Scotland have no real attack. So it's one of those, yeah, they're going to... They can...
00:20:41
Speaker
Threaten but until they start actually putting you know some tries over you know If I recall correctly because I don't have a score in front of me they didn't score right I mean they didn't score try they didn't get over now, so that's this they've played two Six Nations matches without scoring and only have penalty cases
00:21:00
Speaker
to show for it. At some point, you're going to start real, you know, put the fucking battle kicks away when, you know, there's a penalty. Don't bring the tea out. Tell them, no, no, no, no, no. You go and you play with that ball because fuck, if they're not going to be scoring tries, what's the point?
00:21:15
Speaker
Right. No, I uh, I agree. Um Yeah, they had territory and possession but did nothing with it You know who would really help them in this match finn rustle Just a thought but apparently that is not a good relationship at all. No and and I you know, I was listening to the pot pot pot on the way over and and and goodie mentioned he's and he's right the coach always wins in that but
00:21:40
Speaker
Mm-hmm, but at some point you got to take the L As you had a note where you have to I saw somebody say something about like you got to manage the maverick at some point because he's gonna do you good
00:21:50
Speaker
Or, at some point, you've got to realize, why is this relationship not good? And what's the coach's role in that? Rather than, I'm the coach. I do what I want. You're the player. Blah, blah, blah. I don't necessarily. That hardo mentality, that I'm the big swinging dick mentality. What does that get you? Nope. It doesn't do a whole lot of good, man.
00:22:10
Speaker
right like at some point while you're you're cutting off your nose to spite your face and it's not helpful for anybody and it makes you look bad because you have your best like it really so reminded me that interview reminded me of Todd clever's interview about Tolkien and the shit that he pulled when he was the coach that says a lot right there and and if tolk you know that and very few of you out there know who Tolkien is and i'm very i'm glad that jealous of you for not knowing who he is
00:22:41
Speaker
But he was an old Eagles good about it. He was old USA Eagles coach who was a he was the the tyrant and They're not that good. So you can't you can't you can be that tyrant when you have the well I don't know how they do it over there But in America, you know, you wouldn't eat the championship ring So when you can you can wave that ring in someone's face and say we're doing it my way because I have one of these and you don't Yeah, that's one thing
00:23:05
Speaker
You don't have that ring? No. And shut the fuck up. Yeah, you probably do. Do what's best for the team because you're not that guy. You haven't got there yet, man. So we'll see how that goes. Interesting post-match shenanigans happened and I'm I'm here for it. I'm here for it. We all should be. And if you're not, go fuck yourself. Oh, and yes, I'm now. And by the way, I'm officially an eligible supporter. Yeah, we put that on record.
00:23:31
Speaker
Putting that out there. I still think he has a long way to go as a player to round out his game, but instead of Focusing on his his shortcomings as I have in the past now I'm gonna focus on a positive and hoping that he shuts up the fucking haters who are dicks to him Yeah, that's that's no there's no need for any and the whole oh he had a beer dude Do you know how heavily involved beer isn't with rugby if you were so if you're so naive that you're like it doesn't happen How many beer sponsors are there for rugby teams?
00:24:01
Speaker
endless, endless numbers. And they talk about it in every good rugby story it starts with, we went and had a beer with these guys. It's just how it goes. The story from last week. Yeah, Joe Marler going with you. Joe Marler. That was amazing. Let's go have a beer. Yes. Nobody says that we have beer. Nobody knows that we have beer. Yes, we do. Shut the fuck up. And that's where it gets to for me, is that I'm going to put it as innocuously as I can.
00:24:30
Speaker
for some of these people it's okay when joe marler has a beer but it's not okay when ellis genj has a beer and i'll let you sort out why that is because we all know why the fuck that is and and that's why i'm an ellis genj fan now because you know that's a fact because because this is still very much a white man's sport um unfortunately in certain eyes i should say not not in general but but in many people's eyes you know jake white will will allow
00:24:58
Speaker
The alice ganges of the world to play for us, but they can't enjoy themselves They can't have a beer after them of course. They can't do this. They can't blah blah blah. Yeah, sit on rotate Yeah, so yeah sit on us railroad spike and rotate. How about that? We're just finding a different sport to watch because fuck you like yeah Yeah, so yeah all the races they can go watch soccer because that's where that shit belongs Well, that doesn't that that shit's being being really stamped out over there like the players are refusing to play games Yeah, when they're getting racist chance, they're like, no, it's good not happening. Yeah, not happening. Fuck you all
00:25:27
Speaker
So good on them too. Anyway, Scotland six, England 13, England carrying disorder right the ship after still a semi questionable lineup. And I want to clarify something before we, let me clarify something before we move on. I wanted to know why everybody was a George Ford fan. If he is like a fancy like thing that you are loving because we all have our fancy running backs. That was our man crush when we won the league. I get it. Mine was Peyton Hillis.
00:25:55
Speaker
won me a league because he was a pickup and he scored like three straight weeks of unbelievable points. I get it and I appreciate that but knocking down, you know, knocking down fantasy points like you read about is one thing but being able to put on your country shirt and perform the way you're supposed to perform is completely something different.
00:26:15
Speaker
So just and let's just leave that as it is I understand I can appreciate the love for somebody for that reason alone if it keeps you out of a silly punishment for your fancy leak awesome ride that thing until it fucking dies, but Fancy to what real life doesn't translate. He's got to go I mean that's that's bottom line you look at the best game in England have played recently he was nowhere to be found on the pitch and New Zealand yeah
00:26:41
Speaker
Yeah, and Farrell's a 10, so I— He's not 12. I see what Eddie was trying to do. It didn't work. Let's move on. Hasn't taken— It started off— It hasn't gone any further than where it started off.
00:26:57
Speaker
Hasn't improved. It started at a certain level. People figured it out. It hasn't changed. So that's the problem now. Did it work when it first started? Yes, because nobody knew what the fuck to do. But now everybody knows what the fuck to do. There's no answer for it. So yeah, needs a switcheroo there. The Sunday game.
00:27:17
Speaker
france 35 italy 22 uh was plenty of entertainment yes and italy italy were good yeah they played italy played i was incredibly like if this was close for a little while yeah and if it was not for the absolute genius of dupont and into mac uh that that italy team
00:27:38
Speaker
Put up, you know could have could have pulled out the w there. Yeah, absolutely. I agree It was um, they you know, they had that there's a 10 minute spell where they scored 10 points real quick Um and made this thing look real interesting But you know the right guys for france eventually took over you said you said two of them gregory. Aldrich is another one Yes, he is And what?
00:28:00
Speaker
What universe are we living in where France have two amazing scrum hats between Baptiste Céron and frickin DuPont? I don't know a better pair in the world. Well, it's certainly not in this competition at the moment. Cooney and Murray would give them a run for their money, but that's it.
00:28:19
Speaker
And if they if this were in the world, yes. Yes. I agree. Oh, but if you're talking Six Nations, I'd say Murray and CUNY probably give him a run from the money. That's it. Probably. So, yeah, that was that was brilliant. Rotez, unfortunately, had to leave this game. Hopefully, hopefully, hopefully Penno is ready to rock and roll by the time the next six nations even rolls around. Yeah, apparently he is. He'll be I think from what I heard, he's he's going to be in that's good news. That's good news for France because Rotez is going to be out. And can we talk about the the most important, most valuable player of the match, the post?
00:28:50
Speaker
Yeah, they got involved that's for sure. Intimac hit a crossbar and then he hit both posts. And then Butye's long ass kick that was going through and it hits the padding and stops.
00:29:10
Speaker
Really, really, really good luck, really dumb luck, but sometimes you'd rather be lucky than good. But well done, Poets. Getting in the match. Yes. Doing work. Well done. Well done to you. Yeah, I commend Italy for stepping up and playing a lot better. Last week was not great. They had the right ideas, but they were poorly executed. Right. And I thought they executed much better this match. Yes, I agree. I think they're going to take out Scotland.
00:29:33
Speaker
They may if scotland continues to play this way and they don't get finn rustle back into that lineup And I don't think they're after that interview. I don't think they're getting finn rustle back. You might be right Um, and you know unless townson goat, you know gets on it literally gets on his knees and says please come back I was wrong which that's not gonna happen and finn's not gonna he's saying fuck off i'm happy here. Yeah, I mean I don't blame him to be himself
00:29:57
Speaker
The Italy's game there reminded me a lot of another upstart team that has recently beaten Scotland and even Ireland. And that's the kind of game that will crush an uncreative, kind of do-nothing team like Scotland. So Italy, they might move on and not take the spoon. It might go to Scotland this time around. That would be very interesting. All right.
00:30:27
Speaker
To the other hemisphere, Super Rugby.
Super Rugby Highlights and Analysis
00:30:31
Speaker
This was a telling week in many ways. I didn't get a chance to watch this one, the Highlanders and the Sharks, but Highlanders got off to a very slow start and they apparently looked pretty sluggish. Josh Juwani did not play well. I think he might have even got banged up.
00:30:46
Speaker
in any case He gets he was played at 12 again a guy that's probably not a 12 playing it. So not great Yeah, just this this was not a good one for them. And from what I understand there there's there's a lot to be desired for them at the moment sharks look really good again, so good on them and
00:31:08
Speaker
Uh, mac map empty fosse venter all getting over uh, kirwin bosh being kirwin bosh Uh, as he's gonna be he's gonna be a huge piece of this this shark's team. You can already feel it Um, I mean when you you know, he he can he can do so much as a as a 10 as a distributor Maybe he's not the the the runner that you're looking for all the time. He can he can he can but I think his value I think is in in distributing that ball especially to those uh
00:31:33
Speaker
You know those playmakers he's got outside of um, that that that's going to be extremely helpful for the sharks the rest of the way out Yeah, the one thing that's catching my eye in this match report is a lot of unforced errors from that highlander So yeah, maybe the yips maybe a case of the yips. I mean that that's that's the thing with a lot of these uh, um The new zealand squads is they do throw the ball, you know when it goes badly But it goes very bad. They can go very badly and and the highlanders. I think this is that
00:32:02
Speaker
I think there's going to be a down year for them. Which is unfortunate because they had a decent year last year. They did. They were on an uptick.
00:32:08
Speaker
Uh, but it's, it's, they're, they've got some holes in their lineup now. And like you said, they have a 10 at 12, which as we all know, not the best idea at all. No, it's not, it's not necessarily a good idea. We'll see how that, we'll see how that goes. But hounders 20 sharks, 42 sharks are probably looking like the strongest team in South Africa right now. If I had to guess, um, with the stormers probably being a close, close second.
00:32:35
Speaker
Over to Australia, Brumbies and Rebels. I think I found Australia's 10 for this summer. His name's Noah Lalesio. He played very well. Good distributor, good foot. Made some fucking ballsy-ass kicks for like on the touchline.
00:32:56
Speaker
Um, this kid's got it. Okay, keep him if you can keep him a little head. He's got really good stuff. Rebels played a little better in this match, but still, you know, like get away from them in the first half. So then they interviewed one of the coaches on the sideline and he was less than happy until they finally turned it around but still
00:33:12
Speaker
Point being they could they just they need to pick it up a little bit. Obviously. I think they're dragged still dragging ass from from the travel Yeah, they'll be home this weekend right mistaken. So we'll see how we'll see if they can fix it Everybody's giving to be the current Johnny all the attention for the rebel centers. I
00:33:29
Speaker
era simone is playing brilliantly for these guys that 12 shirt is his he's been a bit of a journeyman uh he scored a try he set up another one and he was doing damage left and right so i loads of credit to the dude i i love i love seeing it he's you know he's not quite the bulb the big battering 12 that you think about but can do a little bit more which is i like that you don't need the 12 in my opinion you don't need the 12 to be the battering ram
00:33:55
Speaker
It's, it's nice to have a battering ram somewhere in the centers, but you don't, I don't think that's necessary, especially the way a lot of these teams play. Now, if you want a battering ram, that's running through the centers, you use one of your, your wing forwards in that, that role, um, in the loose. So I like more distributors and runners at both positions. So, so yeah, Simone and Kirajani together as a combination. Yeah. Uh, yes, that, that will play well.
00:34:20
Speaker
Yeah, they've both played very well. Obviously, Karan Drani's very good. Simone's definitely made this a point this year. So good on him. Brumby's 39, Rebel's 26. Rebel's good. Showing a little bit of life. I believe Matt too.
00:34:37
Speaker
Did Matt Timo come off early in this one today? I messed that up. Yeah, he came off really early. He came off 41 minutes. Oh, I was wondering why his points were a little lower. More garbage. Yeah, they were bad. I was able to not start him, but still, I didn't feel great. Yeah, I didn't have much of a choice. Oh, boy. Yeah. So we'll see how that goes this week.
00:34:57
Speaker
Let's go to the Saturday games. This was a good one for you. I was not too displeased with the result. I imagine so. Chiefs 25, Crusaders 15. Looked like Crusaders were going to have it for a little while, but then Chiefs did their second half thing. Yeah. And the Chiefs last year, my biggest gripe about them was their just complete lack of defense. Like they could, they were just teams would tear them apart and
00:35:23
Speaker
It looked pretty much like that might have been the case with two tries from several weeks early. Oh, yeah But then it was also one of these like double-edged swords like he got some nice two nice tries But they were kind of walk-in tries. Yeah cross field kicks. So it's like okay that David really right is that that was just if that's the only way you can score then okay, but I mean the problem was in the past that that would start like that and then just
00:35:52
Speaker
You know become um, uh, what was it? Uh, just just a, a, a, a track machine. Yeah. You need a little bit of Swiss cheese there. Yeah. And so I, I was worried about them holding up, but the, the chiefs really came back strong. Um, you know, with how,
00:36:11
Speaker
Was it weber coming on right after torangi? Uh scores a cheeky scrum half try. Yes. He did take the lead And and then he just the weber offload. That was the weber offload. That was that was amazing That was a very very good offload. That was a that was an eight man like seven like a seven offload again offload from a frickin scrum half
00:36:30
Speaker
If the coach is out there, if you want to show your players how to offload, find the case and point. He did everything right. He got his shoulders through, put the ball on the across the line of the defense and just put the ball laterally. Yeah, to his friend. To who was it? Was it? I knew he was out there. I knew he tried. I knew he tried. And he strolled in. There was nothing there. Good read for why knew he just hit that line hard, too.
00:36:57
Speaker
But two other things. First, we had Bomb in this match. We had, hold on, let me see who it was. It was Sanders. For the Crusaders. Yeah, right off the line out, I think he had pulled it down, and somebody pulled his pants down. He got pants. Well, he got pants from the mall. So yeah, always fun to see Bomb in a red rugby match. And then Lachlan Bashir.
00:37:26
Speaker
With the penalties amazing, uh, so good. He's a six planes. He's a seven plane six. Yeah, and he had uh, two two, uh penalties during squeaky bum time Um came up huge. Yep. Yeah, uh marty mac missed the one but he got the second You mean jamie and mac? Sorry. Oh boy. Um and uh Yeah, the you know the missed the one but the second one didn't matter anyway because it was uh, you know with time expiring uh clock was red
00:37:54
Speaker
Uh, but nice 10 point win for a comp that'll come from behind. Um, just well played all around by the chiefs. Very defending chance too. Yeah. Yeah. Demi Demi Mac on the, on the distance. Pretty impressive. Good. That's excellent to see. This is the kind of things we need for, you know, with him, um, uh, being able, you know, that, that is needs healthy. That's the most important thing for them. Absolutely. Um, here's, here's the, uh, the question bet.
00:38:22
Speaker
Between Tatoru Torengi and Brad Weber, I don't know if there's a better scrum half pairing in this league. I think Jamie Booth and TJ Parr and I would give him a run for the money, but after week one, I would have questioned that, but after watching them last week, I think I can stand by that.
00:38:43
Speaker
But between those two, I don't know if there's a there's a weak link between those two. There's not I mean it's it's you know, I thought tarangi was was starting week one because it's week one and you kind of want to work your lineup certain ways, but That combination right there. They're both
00:39:03
Speaker
You're good with the ball, you're both good runners. They're both extremely creative. You can't really go bad with, or go wrong with either one. So yeah, I'm not gonna disagree with your assessment there. Let's put it that way. I have a hard time thinking of two better ones at the moment. So yeah, I'd say we can probably pencil that one in right there. It doesn't just please me at all. Chiefs 25, Crusaders 15, Chiefs are undefeated still.
00:39:32
Speaker
Hell yeah. A whole two weeks. We end the season. We're good. Hope so. Wartos 12, Blues 32, Blues looking, picking up where they left off last week. Yeah, they lost, but they're still playing pretty well. I didn't get a chance to finish this match, but Mark Talia apparently is a beast.
00:39:54
Speaker
Scoring through, scoring a hat trick. Maybe he's the winger that they're missing. No Rico Ioannoni, obviously he's out for a little while. Like what, six weeks, eight weeks, something like that. Gross. Parafed and not playing terribly in, you know, in place of Bon Barrett.
00:40:10
Speaker
My start of the week last week looked pretty good. Joe Marchant got over. Yes, he did. He's looking really good. He is. So get on that guy. We got to learn how to say this dude's name because he's just still doing it. Nwakatanawasi. Nwakatanawasi. Yeah, we're going to go with that. Nwakanitawasi.
00:40:30
Speaker
in the walking the walk. Okay, fair enough. Anyway, we'll get it. We'll get it eventually because he's going to be keep popping up because he's too freaking good. Um, but he gets over, uh, you know, we're taught still have a, have a few kinks to get out of the other system. Clearly. Um, I know what you think that the live, I'm sure. Um, it's, um, it is interesting that they have been running, um,
00:40:57
Speaker
Will Harrison out there and I don't know if Mac Mason is hurt or if he's just not in the plans, but I know it's a new coach, New South Wales, but okay. Very interesting. We'll see. We'll see if they ride this thing until they die, basically. I guess we're going to find out.
00:41:14
Speaker
Over to South Africa, Lions 27, Reds 20, Reds playing a little better. Still playing pretty well. Tough travel. Tough travel. It's not fun. James O'Connor played 10.
00:41:28
Speaker
OK, yeah, as we thought he might. Yeah, not we're we're a week off. Yeah, we're a week. Well, I mean, he's going to he's going to spot play there. It's not going to be something that's going to be an all the time thing because obviously he's he can play it. He's better. He's probably a better 12. Right. 13. But yes. But, you know, when that's what you need, you need a 10 and there's nobody else. All right. You're up.
00:41:48
Speaker
Yeah, you win, dude. Fair. So we'll see how that goes. What's the match report say? I didn't get a chance to dive into this game too much. Oh yeah, Tyrone Green got over twice. I did know that. Campbell McDermott for, yeah, of course, Hagerty is kicking everything in sight, not news. Yep.
00:42:09
Speaker
Topsy-turvy is the word that I'm seeing here. Interesting. Fun. And then green almost got a hat-trick, I guess, as well. So that would have been fun. But Lions rebound very well, 27 to 20. Reds are still searching for their first win. I think they're on the edge of it, though. They have enough talent and good players. As long as they can keep this up, they'll be just fine.
00:42:35
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Yeah, they're they're looking like they'll they'll be in the running certainly for that that uh, south african conference You mean australia conference? Oh, so you said lines. I thought I was I was on the lines Yes, lines may may be but I still i'm still Pipping the the sharks to take that one at this moment
00:42:52
Speaker
um and then the as you described shit sandwich stormers and balls i ate this one for the fantasy right um immediately like halfway through i was like sometimes i start watching a match and then i text jared i'm like hey i'm watching this and jared's like hey yeah so am i so this one i got into and i was like i need
00:43:15
Speaker
I need to stop Jared from watching this match. Save him! I'm diving in front of the bullet. Yeah, this was not a good match. So I'm trying to understand because I am still a little disappointed because
00:43:40
Speaker
I could have sworn that Jamie Roberts scored a try, but I didn't get credit for the try in his fantasy points. So I'm not certain what happened there exactly. I know it was kind of a mall and he was at the back. He got up with the ball. So you'd think that he would get credit for the try, but no.
00:43:58
Speaker
Who got credit for it? They're saying sonatla got credit for it weird. He wasn't somebody. Oh, wait. Yeah, somebody fucked up Wow, somebody somewhere fucked up because I don't think sonatla was anywhere near that It was uh, because it was um, I think it was intabenny Had them had the ball in the back of the mall as a hooker normally does right and it was because the line out mall and um
00:44:23
Speaker
Roberts came in to help and I thought he flopped over with it with the bended up flopping over the ball I maybe they give the try to into anything else that that might have been the case in the end But either way that was interesting. But other than that, oh, yeah, it's not like at a try later, you know, whatever it was Either or that was it was 13 nothing at half and that's how the game ended and there really wasn't much else to say about the match Yikes
00:44:46
Speaker
Yeah, it's just understand if he that's always that's I guess it's the best we can say about that one. Yeah, it's kind of a mediocre Play kind of boring rugby. Unfortunately, I don't think there was I don't think anybody it was played poorly It's just that nothing materialized. So as much as work this is doing with the ball. They Never materialized into points, right?
00:45:07
Speaker
So, I mean, every so often it's like, oh, that's interesting. Oh, but nothing happened. You know, after a while of doing that, you kind of get into why the fuck am I even watching this? Yeah, it's going to be really inaccurate. Oops, a daisy. And that was the only that was really the rest of the rugby we're talking about. Uh huh. Uh huh. Uh huh.
00:45:26
Speaker
Yeah, well, let's go over to Argentina anyway. Oh, right, that match, that happens. Jaguars 23, Hurricanes 26. Yes, Hurricanes, yes. Fucking cracker of a man. Yes, yes. And to open the scoring, Jordy Barrett, which would have been good from 70. Oh, jeez. Easily, easily. What a hoof. What a leg. Somebody check that man for a horse steroid. Good job.
00:45:54
Speaker
Fucking the million dollar man there with that leg. That was, uh, that was a boot. I was like, he's going to take this on the other, the other 10 and it's still had you. So I was like, whoa, that's, that's a little winter system, but shit. That's confidence. And, uh, the building to back it up right there. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Who, who, who does that? You're like on your side of your own 10 meter line, dead straight, but still, it's like, you gotta have the confidence to say, I got, let's, we're going that way. Let's go. Didn't more that.
00:46:22
Speaker
Yeah, what a what a freaking hoop, but it was a it was a really good match outside of that because after he played really well. Marcos Kramer just took over the match. Oh, yeah, that too. That was a great line. He scored for his trip. He ran for his try as well. Yeah, this thing came down right down to the edge.
00:46:37
Speaker
Uh, I was so happy that they were, um, Billy Proctor looked like he was going to get over it. But then, you know, I have to say, here's the thing. Gareth Evans is one of the nicest guys on the, on the hurricanes. So when he cheats, he doesn't know how to fucking cheat. He just, he does it and it's really blatant. Cause you're like, Oh yeah, sorry buddy. You don't know how to do that very well. Do you, you definitely cheated. So yeah, that brought that back.
00:47:02
Speaker
But, um, Nana Lemape returned. Yes, he did. And he returned with a vengeance. Yes, he did. And, you know, TJ almost got over and he was very honest about it. Like, yeah, I didn't get over it. Don't even check it. But it was, he nearly got over. But Jamie Booth did. Yes, he did. And it was pretty much the Lemape that was setting it up. Yeah, it was. So, he's a beast. Who was it? It was, um...
00:47:29
Speaker
Who was was it 9 10? It was him and booth and was it lamb?
00:47:36
Speaker
Possibly. I don't remember. I think it was, I think it was Ivan Lamb. That was a part of it. But anyway, really good stuff. Yeah. Just very simple out and back and, and, and working, just working in space with each other and getting, and just finishing it. That's, that's ultimately, you know, um, excellent Scrum half line by Booth to, to be in position for it. And right where you're supposed to be and, and paste to finish it off.
00:48:01
Speaker
Yeah, I will say we're going to hurricanes being look at the Jaguars in a second here. I call him Dewey, do do policy query. He made an enormous jump for me in his first year, but he needs to calm himself down just a little bit and get a little more discipline. He's got a little energy, but he doesn't know where to put it. Right. So that's and that's part of his problem. And he's giving away some really stupid penalties.
00:48:25
Speaker
Well, that's, that's also not only his energy, but the lid, that lettuce, that lettuce. We talked about this with Ashley Johnson and some other players like that. Yeah. You're going to be spotted real quick. If you're going to, yeah. Right. If you're going to make yourself visible, uh,
00:48:44
Speaker
Don't make it so fucking obvious, right? That might not be the you know, you might not want to be that visible as a flanker doing flanker things No, you kind of want to hide yourself, especially as an open side. We're gonna be involved in the play a lot. Yeah Maybe try to blend a little bit better, but we you know kind of
00:49:03
Speaker
Joking about how all the New Zealand flankers kind of look the same How that kind of helps them get away with penalties when they come in from the side and whatnot You're like, oh wait, was that you or the oh you both? Oh, I whatever fuck it. I don't remember which one you were But when you have yeah when you have that that that big bush on top of your head mm-hmm
00:49:23
Speaker
The referee's like, oh, that guy. I know that guy. I see what he's doing right there. And that's a penalty. So I'm going to ping that. Yeah, for sure. So either settle down or trim the lid. Yeah, one or the other. And if you don't want to trim the hair, wear a scrum cap. Hide it. It's a possibility. That's a possibility, isn't it? If you can fit it under. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
00:49:42
Speaker
Yeah, Bruni and Kramer were beasts for the Jaguars. They were everywhere, making tackles looking right. So you got to give them that. Maroney in the middle was doing his damnedest to contain Lamape. That's a beast to contain if you're really, if that's your job.
00:50:00
Speaker
to contain him. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't great. It's tough to put him, especially when Lamape knew he had a bad week the week before. You know he's coming out angry and being like, I am not letting anybody fucking stop me this match. And he still does best, just only so much you can do with a man possessed like Lamape is sometimes.
00:50:22
Speaker
So, Jaguars 23, Hurricanes 26, Hurricanes get off the Schneider and come back home to at least having some points in the bag instead of going 0-2 on the road, and hopefully they get Dane Coles back this week. Yeah, I mean, that's a big win for a bunch of reasons, you know, away. Especially after last week. Right. That's a momentum builder right there. It's not just getting your first win of the season.
00:50:46
Speaker
You know, especially, you know, a little bit, little bit short-headed still. Um, that there's a lot to look forward to with the, with the, the hurricanes team, especially, you know, with, with things being a little open. I mean, you know, the chiefs are looking good. The blues are looking good. Obviously the crusaders are vulnerable. So, um, the, the, the hurricanes are in a position where they, you know, they can build off of this and, and, uh, do some good things as the season goes on. Yep. For sure. All right. Um, let's go start set. Ah.
00:51:16
Speaker
uh back to the back to the prem back to the problem there we go um a lot a lot of question marks this this week um you know definitely look for our our sheet at the end of the week for this one because it's going to be anybody's guess who's starting who's not um basically we talked about like i mentioned it earlier really briefly depends on which coach wants to be a dick and which one doesn't
Premiership Rugby Match Discussions
00:51:39
Speaker
as far as non-england internationals go and also yeah which people want to play there's gonna be some guys want to right some guys are like yep play me right like uh you sure yes play me yeah okay we haven't got much much playing time with their their top side their their international side so right
00:51:57
Speaker
So that's what it is. So, um, Friday night, Gloucester and Exeter, this should be fun for multiple reasons. Uh, we'll talk about a little bit more with Pickham, but, um, both these teams are relatively unfazed by the, uh, with a few here and there. A few, yeah. Like Luke Cowendicki and, and Pledry. Yeah. Hogg, Pledry. Yep. Um, so.
00:52:18
Speaker
Gloucester. We're going to go with Ackermann Woodward, Reese Zemet if he plays, Chris Harris if he plays, Atkinson, Moray, Marshall, Morgan, Ludlow, Mostert, definitely Mostert and TRM, you know, like we talked about in FRD, any lock with a pulse has a shot, so go ahead. And then Gloucester front row, extra front row actually surrenders quite a bit, so it was really interesting to see that.
00:52:40
Speaker
Is Yandell back yet? I'm not sure. I'm not asking. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, he is playing in TRM for sure. He's usually pretty good. Exeter, O'Flaherty, Hogg, if he plays both Simmons. I can't imagine Hogg, he's going to play. I don't think he's going to, but you never know. Johnny Hill, Alex Cuthbert, Armand. Yeah, either fly is fine in FRD, especially. Steenson's not good in TRM, so don't play him there.
00:53:07
Speaker
And Vermeulen if you're desperate because he's actually kind of fallen off since like his hot start. Exeter front row is startable.
00:53:16
Speaker
Worcester Bath, Battle of the Titans, for Worcester. Again, not sure of the lineups, but Huggard will be playing. Start him. We're, I'm assuming he's going to play because he hasn't really played in Six Nations. Lewis and Colonel Dupree. For Bath, Obano, Stuke, McNally, Bayless, Mercer, Mercer especially. I'm looking for players. Come on, Mercer. Come on, Mercer. There's so much stock in that, dude.
00:53:45
Speaker
And he's going to be a player who's putting his hand up because if you haven't noticed, England also need an eight. Yeah, among other things. And Rhys Priestland, because dude's a fucking points machine, especially in TRM.
00:53:58
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. Okay, just lost my place. Time out. Yes, our boys. All right, so here's the fun part. Saracens are really, obviously a really good team barring that last match that they played against the Quinn's. The sale defense.
00:54:16
Speaker
Fantasy wise it's a thing. It's a thing. I've mentioned it a few times. It's definitely a thing Oh, yeah, this is you actually have sale this week. Yeah, I almost the way the way it fell I was like, oh Ben's actually not gonna get sale this week because I because I'm the one that usually assigns it I was like Oh, Ben's actually not gonna sit get sale this week and I thought about flip-flopping it just to give you sound just to piss you off I
00:54:41
Speaker
But no, the way things fell, I ended up with Saracen's and Sail. So anyway, Sail defense are a thing. Saracen's front row is gonna be a squint and hope and pray.
00:54:53
Speaker
that they don't fall victim to the sale front row defense because they actually have a minus in FRD, a minus in points against. That's ridiculous. There's been more teams that score negative points against them in the first nine rounds of this comp than positive. That's terrifying if you have front row going against them. So Saracens are one of the top scoring ones, so it's playable, but just squint and hope, okay?
00:55:20
Speaker
Nikasikoue Brad Barrett a startable Roddy Seguin startable if Don Morris is somebody that gets thrown in there He's actually not a bad option if you can pick him up off after for FRD, especially Big Willy style don't blame don't blame. He's not been good in either format So and he's he's he's a very expensive very large paperweight right now assuming he's done his ban as well, right? But I could be wrong. Oh, yeah, that should be over by now anywho
00:55:49
Speaker
Over to the other side of the park. Sail. Byron McWiggin, if he plays, I don't know if Scotland are going to let him play. Steve Diamond strikes me as the type that wouldn't give a fuck, so he's not playing. Any Dapria, play him. Dan, Rob, JL, all of them are okay. Ben Renzburg, FRD only. Sail front row play. Ashton, go ahead. John Ross has been pretty good in both. Acker, if he's a healthy, cheese him. And Faf is a play as well.
00:56:19
Speaker
Off to Lester. Your favorite place in the world. Hell yeah. If he can't have sale, he might as well have Lester. It's going to be one or the other. Right. And just because of who they're playing, who knows what the fuck wasps are bringing. So I'm looking at Jordan Taufua, Callum Afoni, Guy Thompson. And I would, if you have an FRD, I wouldn't recommend it in TRM because you probably have got, you don't want to waste a 20-point or a free transfer on them.
00:56:49
Speaker
Ben White. Yes, yes, I like him. I do like him. Definitely for FRD. If he's available in your league, go snap up. Right. Good for good for, you know, one week, a little cameo, especially if you have Willie Heinz. Right.
00:57:04
Speaker
And, and for wasps, I'm assuming Will Rollins is playing, um, because he hasn't, even though he was called up. Right. Um, and then Jack Willis is a car. Yes. Robson, Umaga and Kiberigi. These are guys. Umaga might not play if Eddie Jones says no. Oh. That's a possibility. Just keep that in mind. Cause he is part of the squad.
00:57:25
Speaker
Yeah, but fuck yeah, this guy hasn't played. I know. Oh, I know. Yeah, but it's Eddie Jones. Again, we know we know that there's a likelihood that Eddie Jones is saving guys for one fucking match, which sucks. The match. Yeah, fuck it. I'm not even going there. It's a different story for a different day, a whole different topic.
00:57:41
Speaker
I just wrote an essay in my head in that 10 millisecond thing between you saying something and me saying something. No. It's a lot. I'm done. It's a lot to dive into. If you were listening and you've heard me talk about some of these things already, then you know what I'm going to say. Yeah, you know where he's driving out with that.
00:58:02
Speaker
Oh man, okay. To get into it. Quinn's in London Irish. This will be interesting. London Irish surrender the most points, so don't be shocked if, you know, there's a lot of Quinn's scoring all over the place. There's guys in this team that don't belong here because they should be playing for other things like, you know, England perhaps. Anywho,
00:58:29
Speaker
Marker Smith, Ibertoye, Don Brandt, James Chisholm, Caden Murley, Luvies, Elialia, Care, Rob Shaw. Roll it out there. Even Rob Shaw?
00:58:40
Speaker
He's okay in TRM, especially. Okay. Excuse me, FRD. TRM. Yeah, you can probably find another flank. Right. Okay. Fair enough. Leonard Irish, Ollie Hassell Collins. Unsittable. Yeah. Blair Cowan. Unsittable. Ollie Hoskins is still one of the top scoring props in the whole thing. Definitely play him. Albert Tuosui. He has to be a guy in your FRD lineup. He's a lock playing eight man. Do it. Don't hesitate. Just do it. He's still a big ball carrier on top of that. So do it. Do it and do it. No.
00:59:10
Speaker
Last prem match, Saints versus Bristol. This one could be a cracker. I would love to see this game played with no defense whatsoever. Just get that ball and fucking attack. Let's open it the fuck up because these teams can obviously both do that with extreme skill and great results.
00:59:36
Speaker
Yeah, this should be fun. Let's see it. I want to see these two, you know, middle of the ring, toe to toe, punch for punch. Go for it. You know, go big, go home kind of thing. You know, all the cliches. Yeah. But for the Saints, start moon Harrison, Taimana Harrison is I know you love him. Yeah, I am. I'm a fan.
00:59:58
Speaker
Cobus Reinak, Grayson's probably at 10, so probably not FRD, but I'm sorry, TRM, but FRD, pick up Grayson. Yeah, grab him. For at least a little bit of a spell, especially if Bigger's seriously injured. I know he took him off. I don't know if he is. We'll find out. I mean, he's definitely going to be off this week, so no question about that. Hutchinson, Nair Voro, Collins, those guys, yeah, they should be in your lineup. On the other side, for the Bears, Thacker, because you cannot start. Yeah, he's back to his old self.
01:00:26
Speaker
Vui Luitua Nathan Hughes another one to look at like all these eight men that that Jones won't pick There's gonna be some anger there By all these guys. Yeah, I mean it happened a couple weeks ago We saw it and then another player who should also be on the England squad Harry Randall starred him Callum Sheedy and there's that apprentice role and the Pia Taos
01:00:49
Speaker
Yeah, right. He she had Randall. I mean Yeah, I'm not going into that. Yeah, that's a lot. That's a long long tunnel stay stay away from light. I Got my shovel out here to dig this but I'm not gonna go there. Yeah, keep it out of there. All right, let's go down. Let's go down to the weeks. Oh, yeah Prem Prem start of the week from start of the week for me. No brainer Alex Dom, right?
01:01:12
Speaker
Yeah, that's a good one. I'm also sticking with that same position and go with Nathan Hughes. Yeah, that's a good one too. Um, my say of the week is going to be Manu, Manu Ropola. All right. And mine is Will Skelton. Yeah. Assuming, assuming Manu Ropola is playing cause he is playing for the U23s. I don't know if they're going to have an issue with him. I'm sure Mark McCall is going to kick the door down and say, fuck that you're I need him. Um, so yeah, play him. Cause hopefully they can drop Alex. Good to fall back. Who is healthy? I guess he is. Yay. Um,
01:01:39
Speaker
All right, anyway, now on to Super Rugby. Blues and Crusaders should be another entertaining one, as these Kiwi Darby seed seem to be. Tullia, Parafetta, Hoskins to Tutu, is Feiani playing it. TJ Feiani and Joe Marchand are all plays. I wonder what Akira Iwani did to piss off Leon McDonald, because, I mean, Tutu's played brilliantly to,
01:02:07
Speaker
Be fair. Um, but I mean if you're you want he he could be the next all-black eight man, right? So it's like wow. I don't know if he's limited. I don't know Yeah, I know. That's their hold man. That's a different topic or a different situation anywho um crusaders over the crusaders, um, havili will jordan and nor uh braid and in our reese, um
01:02:31
Speaker
Is Tom Christie playing? Yes, he is. Tom Christie is a go. Good Hugh is a go as usually as Tom Sanders and Cody Taylor is one of the few good scoring hookers in this competition. Yes, he's limited by minutes, but shit, he's still getting it done. And if you're in the 15 player variation, you better play him. And that also makes the Crusaders probably pretty startable.
01:02:54
Speaker
On to Rebels' ties. Well, this one's going to be a fucking cracker. Without knowing who's starting this, it's going to be an extremely short list for now. We'll have obviously more later as the lineups come out and as we can really dive into the matchups. For the Rebels, there's not many. We're actually both these teams. There's not much that's worth starting.
01:03:15
Speaker
So, uh, Dane Hill at petty, obviously he's obviously a starter and not so Ronnie's obviously a starter for the rebels for the Taz, uh, Hooper. Cause you, you know, you can't not have him. And, uh, as much as I've joked about it, currently bill, uh, we'll, we'll be putting up points, I think, especially against the rebels who've proven, uh, a little leaky and, uh, I'm going to try it now. What kind of Tawasi?
01:03:40
Speaker
Yeah, I know he's not starting we have we actually do have that lineup already but he's gonna come off the bench and He's a guy you you just can't take out of your lineup right now because especially as we said the Rebs are leaky Scoring out a good pretty good clip right he could still score a try off the bench so it that's that's worth the worth the risk of starting him even though he's on the bench and
01:04:01
Speaker
Yeah, no, I totally agree. The kid's electric right now. Okay. To the land of the rising sun. Some wolves and chiefs. Chiefs leaving the country of New Zealand for the first time. Some wolves, we got a little bit more information about them after their first match than they had to buy. So I'm going to do my best to give you the advice that I can. Garth, April.
01:04:26
Speaker
grab him. If you are desperate at fly half, he is not a terrible option. He scored very well last week. Um, someone's front row is kind of a squint your eyes and hope because they did score well last week, but I don't know if it's a fluke or not. So that's the thing. Um,
01:04:42
Speaker
Java brick about the hooker for the Sun Wolves, the Georgian hooker. Play him. Ben Teo, Dargaville. Jared Adams is another front rower that did well there. Go ahead and roll him out there as well. For the Chiefs, Chiefs front row scored very well last week. I think it's going to continue. They have some good stuff.
01:05:02
Speaker
Takeo is actually a good hooker to throw in there as well. He's one again, there are not many really good scoring hookers. So if you have them, you're gonna play him like I have one hooker on my roster. And that's how it's always going to stay with us unless you have deep benches, which case God bless you.
01:05:16
Speaker
Ali Malo, Cruden, Damian Mack, Stevenson, Busheer, Tapiah has played brilliantly since he got put into the lineup, so play him. I know one of these guys is going to end up sitting, but if he's in, play him. ALB, Der, Sam Kane, and Sowakula, they've split time and they've still been serviceable at the very least as a loose forward, so both are playable.
01:05:41
Speaker
Onto the hurricanes and sharks, which again should be a pretty fucking cracker of a match. It should be a good match, yeah. Hurricanes coming home. Again, still not knowing the lineup, but Karifi, we talked about him a little bit, but guys putting up points, starred him. Evans. Yep.
01:06:03
Speaker
Don't know how much Jamie Booth's gonna play but at this point I think even if he I mean he's scoring at a good clip, right? So it's not a terrible idea if you're desperate at scrum half, right? So even if he's on the bench another guy you should have in your lineup Geordi and Lomapi are the guys you should be looking at for the Sharks Fosse, of course Kerwin Bosch
01:06:26
Speaker
Uh, because he's he's been lighted up. Yep. So far both weeks. So it's just a guy who You know, he he breaks one tackle and there he goes. So, uh, So, uh, you got some wheels, right? Um, Kerwin Bosch, Venter and my Pippi guys. Yeah. James Venter. He played so well the first week. He didn't quite score well. And I was glad to see like that come to fruition last week where he scored really well. And I feel like he could, I think this could be a pretty wide open match.
01:06:53
Speaker
Again, we don't know who the sharks are breaking with them. So yeah, and whether or not they're gonna start all these guys, but
01:06:59
Speaker
Yeah, I assume it won't be too far from the lap they brought to the Highlanders. True. Yeah, so we'll see. Brumbees and the Highlanders, and said Highlanders. So Brumbees have actually scored really well over the first few weeks, so there's plenty of good pickings from that one. Tom Wright, Simone, we talked about Tom Banks, Der,
01:07:23
Speaker
Lalecio, if you picked him up, God bless you and thank your lucky stars that you figured out. Either one, you did your research and figured out who he was, or two, you were the first one on the waiver wire that snapped him up, either way. Pete Samu, Tom Cusack both playing very well. Even Valentini's playing serviceable in the back row there. And again, another position that you, if they're scoring well, you fucking don't blink starting them as long as they're in the lineup. Al and Al Atoa for the Brumbies, they're props.
01:07:50
Speaker
Highlanders, not great to start off the year, obviously. So I'm only gonna give a few guys that did well last week and hope, if you spent an early round pick on some of the Highlanders, give them another week, ride them out there like Aaron Smith, Yolani, the likes. But Dylan and Mitch Hunt might be okay. Michael Collins is probably okay. And Jonah Nurecki, who's the only guy that managed to put up anything that was more than respectable for the Highlanders. So go ahead and roll him out there.
01:08:22
Speaker
And on to the lions versus dormers, which. This could be an interesting game. It could also be a snoozefest. Yep. Yeah. Not depending on the African derbies, man. Right. Um, but for the lions, uh, mass and Elton Yankees and Marnus Schumann or guys, you just can't take out of your lineup at the moment. So, uh, there'll be their, their starters, even if they're on the bench.
01:08:44
Speaker
Uh, in the lineup. Um, and then for the Stormers, Sinatla, Damian Villemps, um, and Yako Kotsia. Yeah. You want, um, still, I, I liked Jamie Roberts still, even though he didn't get over, but I can't recommend him as a starter. Not quite yet. He's kind of a, if you have to spot start him, you spot start him.
01:09:06
Speaker
Fair enough, yeah. What was I going to say? Lions did sign Jaco Creel back from Gloucester as well. Oh, that's right. Yeah, that was a bit of news last week. So it'll be wondering, you know, maybe he'll be on the field. Maybe you won't. Yeah, that'd be a thought. He produced fantasy wise for Gloucester, just FYI. So if he's out there and you're desperate and he's starting.
01:09:26
Speaker
And they play a very open style, so it'll fit right in. It's a possibility
Fantasy Picks and Predictions
01:09:30
Speaker
right here as well. Okay, and then, geez, am I reading this right? Are they getting three home games in a row, Jack Wash? Looks like it. Geez, that's a gift right there. I mean, they have the biggest pain he has to travel, so I understand it, but whew, start the season off with three games in a row. They'll be going off for three or four game roadie here soon. Anyway, digress.
01:09:54
Speaker
Bofeli Miyati their front row either hooker actually serviceable as well. So go ahead and give that a whirl Malia Moroni Delky Carreras they've got players that are scoring Petty's actually scoring really well. He's a lock I think so. Yeah, throw him out there Cabeli Kramer
01:10:13
Speaker
Gourson, which is the new kind of the new blood there, all startable. So go ahead and go ahead. Reds are a little leaky as well. So definitely, definitely consider most guys that are wearing a black shirt in Argentina this weekend. But the Reds, the obvious ones, Bryce Haggerty, James O'Connor, Henry Spate, Chuck Campbell played pretty well. Tate McDermott's a really good scrum I have to have for yourself. And Harry Wilson has been tearing it up for the loose forward. So go ahead and roll him out there.
01:10:44
Speaker
Okay, so start of the week. My start of the week is going to be Marika Corabetti from the Rebels against the Waratahs. Scores pretty well. Waratahs are super leaky. They're the worst team so far in the first two weeks on average. I'm going to go ahead and bet my money on that one.
01:10:58
Speaker
and i'm sticking i think same match uh and i'm going with dane halo petty oh yes because uh he scored over 30 points both um both matches this week uh very much making me happy in the process because i have him in both of our leagues and uh so so yeah he's gonna he's gonna be my start of the week which means he'll get like shit yeah he means to get red carded in the first five minutes so
01:11:23
Speaker
But Dave Rennie, are you watching International Quality Fullback right there? Dane Halepet. No, no, no, no. Curly Bill. Oh, wait, no, he's playing nine and ten. Every other position that they don't seem to know what to do with. My city of the week is going to be a guy that almost scored a hat trick last week, but is now playing against a really, really tough and stingy defense this week, Tyrone Green.
01:11:49
Speaker
And my sit of the week is a guy who for all his, his, uh, heroics in the world cup has really been a disappointment so far this year. And that's going to be Lucaño. Um, Oh yeah, I know. And he's, he was picked pretty, pretty high. Yeah. And then that's basically just, there's expectations on him and he's not delivering, not delivering.
01:12:08
Speaker
So far and it's only two games in but still it's not it's not been the evidence is not good. So it's not looking promising That's really the problem is that sometimes there's players who you're like, oh you're just that he's been a ghost not even All right, let's do it. Let's go to the pick a machine Ben took the lead on me this past week sweeping our our three Opposing different picks that we had Yeah
01:12:38
Speaker
Let's go to you. Let's go to Friday night for the premise. So we'll start with the prime as we usually do. Um, if it's an, if it's in swing, at least, um, Gloucester and Exeter Gloucester at home. And I'm going to take the boys in the cherry and white. Yeah. Well, they didn't lose a whole lot, um, to the, to the six nation squads with the exception of Cludry and Braley and Owen Williams. I think that's the one. Am I missing anybody? Willie Hines, but they have Joe Simpson, so I'm not worried about that. Right.
01:13:07
Speaker
Simpson will be fine. I don't in the same status when sips isn't necessarily good news. No, so we're still waiting on that, but that's all right. But they can move the ball even without sips enough. Their backs are still pretty good. So still pretty good. Mark Atkinson still plays with him last time I checked. He's pretty good. Yeah. All right. To Saturday. Worcester and Bath. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Neither. They both lose. Not even a tie. They both lose.
01:13:37
Speaker
I don't know if that's possible. They'll figure it out. I'm going to take Worcester. I'm also going to take... Oh, I'm going opposite. I'm going to go Beth. You can go Beth. All right. Because Beth are... I mean, neither of these teams are particularly touched by the World Cup. You mean the Six Nations? I'm sorry, Six Nations. Attaboy.
01:13:56
Speaker
one of those international competitions. They don't matter right now. We're talking premiership. But yeah, I want to see, I think Beth can hold it together a little bit longer than Worcester can, even at home. Yeah. So I'm really, this is the next one, Saracen's sale. Really interesting. Saracen's went up to sale last week in the Premier Cup semi-final.
01:14:18
Speaker
Lost pretty well didn't necessarily bring the strongest team though either sale probably rolled out one of their stronger teams and Put a pretty good number on them. I don't know I'm really tempted to pick sale honestly because they they have They haven't been hurt that badly by their national call-ups But I suppose if I'm gonna go down I'm gonna go down in flames. I'm gonna back the Saracens
01:14:42
Speaker
Yeah at home they tend to rock up at the currently named Allianz part We'll see what happens with that But yeah, I'm gonna go Sarri's too and not that that I think sale won't Bring a good team and all and not that Sarri's will put out their best lineup obviously but I there's
01:15:05
Speaker
I think Sarri's can still choke him out a little bit at home. It's not going to be a pretty match. It may not be, no. But I think Sarri's will defend well enough to win at home. Yeah, defense might be the answer here. Lester and Was. I'm not good with Was. I just got a feeling about this new coach galvanization type of thing here with them. And Lester are missing their whole fucking team. A good chunk of the boys that they really need to lean on. Right. So I'm going to agree with you on that.
01:15:34
Speaker
Quinn's Irish Quinn's have been really hurt by the international cops and Irish are Irish. So I'm gonna go with the twins. I Daleks Dom Brett is gonna you know, I mean he's your start of the week He's gonna yeah, he's one to have hope I'm not playing him And then to the what will probably be the most missed one, what do we do?
01:15:59
Speaker
Oh, you know you got yeah, we'll probably be the most entertaining. Yes match of this weekend at least in the prem Saints and Bristol Boy, it's at Franklin's Gardens. It's the one thing I'm gonna give mm-hmm the Saints so I am gonna go with the Saints I'm gonna agree on that one. Yeah, this was this was that I
01:16:17
Speaker
Ashton gate I might back the Bears. Yeah, it's it's yeah, it's just too much. Yeah Yeah, not to not to poo-poo on Pat Lam and co but I think this is and the Saints are flying high right now too on top of that Yeah, they lost till Irish, but they're gonna be out for you know, they're gonna take it out on these guys I think a little bit
01:16:37
Speaker
Alright, let's go to Super Rugby. Blues Crusaders. Oh my. Oh my. After last week, this is going to be even better now. This is going to be tight. There's blood in the water for the Crusaders. Blues are at home.
01:16:54
Speaker
The Crusaders with their back against the wall a little bit a little bit. That's that's too early in the season for them to be like Desperate but they can't afford to lose another I don't see Ray that I do not see Scott Although it'll be fucking entertaining as hell it would be but I don't see Robert's and let that happen especially since more on his back Yeah
01:17:19
Speaker
Um, Rebels war ties. Oh boy. Neither team has managed to win a game this year. Both have looked okay in spurts. The team to me that has got the most potential to light the scoreboard up is the Rebels. They're playing at home. This is the first home match. I'm going to go with the Melbourne team.
01:17:36
Speaker
I am too. I, I, and for those same exact reasons is that the, the rebels, I coming into the season, I thought they would be the best team in, in, in Australia. Um, I still think they could be. And I think they start that this weekend. There you go. Yeah. They still could, they still could easily be the best team Australia, but Brumby's definitely going to say something about it now. Um, some wolves chiefs. Oh my. Another tough one.
01:18:02
Speaker
Um, I mean, both are technically in the field, though some of us had to buy last week. So, um, and chiefs are traveling. So it's a little, chiefs are, are, are not the rebels. So I'm going to go with the chiefs. Yeah. I, the way they've been playing, um, especially so much talent.
01:18:19
Speaker
Again, the biggest difference between last year and this year isn't the attack, it's the defense. That's a team thing, that's not individual. Even if they're not playing there, I can speak. Even if they're not bringing their best side. Words. Right.
01:18:38
Speaker
If they're not bringing their best side, they're still going to be able to defend against the Sun Wolves. So I'm going to stick with my boys. Yeah. All right. Hurricanes, Sharks. Hurricanes first home game. I think this is where the Sharks undefeated run comes to an end. This is not the Highlanders. This is the Hurricanes. And they're going to they showed some grit last week by
01:19:02
Speaker
being able to come from behind and rebound from a very bad performance in South Africa. So I'm going to back the guys in yellow and go with it. And just like with the Crusaders, again, not a must win for the Canes, but because it's too early in the season, but they need it. And at this point, I think the home team that needs the game more than the away team. Yeah.
01:19:26
Speaker
This is where the sharks are playing brilliantly. This will be this should be a great game. So we'll see we'll see how that turns out Primaries in highlanders after the stinker the islanders turned in and the way the Brumbies are playing This will be their third game in Australia in the last I think actually at home in the last three weeks. So three and three I'm gonna go ahead and say that they don't budge I think it Brumbies when Brumbies when I'm gonna go with the highlanders Yeah, you think they're gonna bounce back a little bit
01:19:52
Speaker
I yeah, I i'm not a believer in the brumby's just yet. Yep, fair enough So I and again the highlanders They came out with that stinker in the first their first match of the season. It's that first it could be that first match jitters I think they maybe Get some rockets up some asses and say again need to keep pace and if they want any shot if they they go 0 and 2
01:20:16
Speaker
Against some weaker teams to start the season that is that's bad. That's bad. That's what they call it. That's the technical oh Lions and stormers and what would be likely a shit show? Stars are undefeated
01:20:36
Speaker
And lose last week they didn't know they did won 13 nothing last week. Oh, yeah, ugly and ugly again again, they shall be but they shall do it stormers Yeah, I agree too. Yeah, and then jack. Oh, dr. Tia jaguars and reds and I wrote lines by accident
01:20:53
Speaker
I know what you meant. I actually read that as Reds earlier. Attaboy. Same wavelength here. This is not where the Reds get their first win. No, it is not. Sorry. Jaguars will begin a brewing last week. So that'll be that. Yeah, Jags got a little bit of taste of the big time last year. And the targets on their back now, too. It is. Nobody's going to sleep on them. And I think they're going to step up. And that
Closing Remarks and Future Plans
01:21:18
Speaker
team's put some massive improvements in from top to bottom.
01:21:23
Speaker
I'm just not a fan of the Reds. I'm not. I'm not a believer in them.
01:21:28
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, it's it's not quite there Okay. Yeah, lots to cover lots to talk about but we did it. Yeah, we're still alive. Thanks for joining us Back next week with with recapping this we'll pick the six nations back up. Obviously It's gonna be a fucking chaotic weekend week the following week. We lost to talk about Yeah, I'll be I'll be traveling for a little bit. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Where you headed?
01:21:55
Speaker
to the land of God's waiting room. Oh, shit. At least it'll be warm. It'll be warm, and I'm going to have a beer in my hand, and I'm not going to be working. It's America's Wang.
01:22:10
Speaker
So for the for those of you who do don't get the reference he's going to Florida Florida That's where every all the old heads retire too. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, it'll be it'll be it'll be good You know, just a little R&R, but you know, but we'll still have time to pod though. So that'll be excellent It'll be a good thing. So yeah, we'll be back next week check your TRM upgrade check out fancy riggy for your information and
01:22:37
Speaker
Hit Ben or I up on Twitter fancy Ruby podcast at gmail.com if you have any questions that you need answered on that