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EPISODE 106: MOVIE THEATRES ARE TERRIFYING
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EPISODE 106: MOVIE THEATRES ARE TERRIFYING
Ah, a night at the cinema! The drama! The comedy! The… HORROR! Listen in for a look at the history of movie theatres, and some dark tales from workers who survived the job… including Matty and Andrew!
HORROR IN THE MOVIES
Tickets please… for THE BLOB and THE LAST MATINEE!
WHATCHA BEEN WATCHIN’, BITCH?!
Listen in to hear what we’ve been watchin’... bitch!
WHAT’S THE CANDY?
Can Andrew guess the names of these popular movie theatre candies? Listen in to find out!
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Introduction and Magic of Podcasts
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The Thirteenth Horror Podcast is a proud, independent podcast. To learn more about the show, visit frage13.com.
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We come to this place for magic. We listen to podcasts to laugh, to cry, to care. Because we need that. All of us. That indescribable feeling we get when the headphones go in, and we go somewhere we've never been before. Not just entertained, but somehow reborn. Together.
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Fear in Movie Theaters and Political Commentary
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It's episode 106. Movie theaters are terrified.
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I am the writing on the wall, the whisper in the classroom. I'm Marjorie Greene, and I approve this message to save America, stop socialism, and stop China. Take your time, we honor thee, from life to death, to rise! Woo-hoo! For every real life. Doubters, the doomsters, the gloomsters, they are going to get it wrong. For active memories.
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Where are you gonna hide? Nowhere. Because there's no one like you left. What do we want? Justice! When do we want it? Now! Let's go! What are you waiting for, huh? What are you waiting for? I want you to know that the movement we started is only just beginning. Sometimes.
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seats in this theater. Why do you have to have mine? It's not your seat. Go away! I pay my money, I have a right to it. Just sit in your seat, correct? Yes, my seat. That's not your seat. How can you tell it's not my seat? Because your ticket has your seat number on it.
00:02:25
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Let's find it. Whatever. This can easily be resolved. Do your own policy. No, no, I'm going to be an asshole because you're being an asshole. I am not. I'm a patron here. Okay, and I'm trying to find your seat. This will be the last time that I come to this imagined VA tour. Sounds great, I think that sounds great. Does anybody here think that this is actually a thing where it's like, it doesn't matter where you sit. It's not a side seating.
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It is oh shit in your own seat. Welcome back to Frygate of 13th Horror Podcast. My name is Matty and I'm Andrew.
Horror Genre and Listener Interaction
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And if this is your first time with us at Frygate of 13th Horror Podcast, you've tuned in or pushed a button to get to the podcast that talks all about horror.
00:03:09
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or in real life and in the movies from an LGBT perspective. This is our 106th episode. It's all about movie theaters and how terrifying they are. We've got a great show lined up for you, some fun stuff, talking about some wacky stories in movie theaters, a couple of movies that fit this docket perfectly, and some funny anecdotes, which Andrew, I believe you have one right now.
00:03:36
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Yes. So listeners of our show know that, you know, kind of you and me are very similar in certain ways and very different in other ways. Yes. And that's what makes the show good. Yeah. Well, I thought it was funny. So we have a joint. If you ever want to email the show, you can email the show at Friday 13 at Gmail dot com. And, you know, every so often we get put on lists for different things. Oh, God.
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Um, and usually like when they come across the email, um, it's either addressed either yourself or myself, Andrew. And I thought it was funny. We had two emails come in both on Friday. Um, and I just want to point this out that, um,
00:04:24
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So, um, so here's one address to me. Okay. Hi, Andrew. Get ready for an out of this world celebration of the 35th anniversary of killer clowns from outer space at horror con LA. Okay. So that's the one address to me. I want to read you the one address to you. Oh God. Give me one second here. Sweet Jesus.
00:04:47
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All right. So, hi, Maddie. As featured five times on Advocates.com, 39 sex toys every gay man should try list. I just wanted to point out that those are the two spectrums that you're getting from your hosts today. But wait, though. What were the sex toys? I mean, you can read the list yourself. It's addressed to you.
00:05:17
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Well, I will go investigate that ASAP as soon as we're done recording here today, quite frankly. Thank you for sharing that, Andrew. I also have a little anecdote for you too, Andrew, right now. You know, look, our listeners are all over the world and it's wonderful. And every now and then we get to be in the same place with them. And we had one of our patrons from Patreon visiting Dublin this week.
00:05:45
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And so I got to got to meet with our friend Kyle, Kyle Curry. You can follow him on Instagram. It's d sig 80 d s i g eight zero on Instagram. And Kyle is just he's he's wonderful. He lives in Chicago, too. It's funny that we didn't meet in Chicago, but we did meet here in Ireland that that's actually kind of funny. We had a great night last night just talking all about horror and talking about gay stuff and talking about politics.
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And it was sort of like doing the show with another person almost like over a few beers and it was wonderful. So Kyle, thank you for for making me part of your trip here in Ireland. I really appreciate that. And look, listeners, if you're ever in Chicago or if you're ever in Dublin, let us know. We would love to meet you for a beer if we're able to. And if you're able to as well, you know, it's like we always say.
00:06:35
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You know, we do the show like really for all of you and it's just, it's a blast every time that we get to do it. And, and I, Andrew, I know I speak for you when I say it's a bit of an honor to do it for people. So like, let us know because you are the reason why we do this and we love to hear from you. And if we ever get a chance to meet you in person, that's even better. So Kyle, once again, thanks so much for being a patron and thank you for being just such a wonderful devoted listener of the show. Thanks.
00:07:01
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Yeah, that's really cool. Thanks, Kyle. When you're back in Chicago, we need to get together as well. Oh yeah, and I'll tell you what too, Andrew, and we'll do this in November, hopefully when I'm back. The connections that Kyle and me and you all have together are ridiculous. Like we know all these people, it's very, very weird, very, very strange. It truly is a small world after all. It is indeed.
00:07:24
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Well, before we get into the meat of the show, when we talk about movie theaters and how terrifying they can be, Maddie, why don't you take a slight detour over to the Certified Terrifying Corner?
US Political Events and Their Impact
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Sure. So the Certified Terrifying Corner for this episode is all about US politics. Congratulations. Because there are a few things that are happening right now that are pretty big in the United States. The first one is this. Dianne Feinstein is dead.
00:07:54
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Goodbye, Dianne Feinstein. I don't mean to make that sound funny, it's not. But she has died at age 90. She was a senator for decades, for decades. And she is no longer a senator anymore because she has passed away, which means that Gavin Newsom, the governor of California, now has to appoint someone to replace her until there can be an election.
00:08:17
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Um, Diane Feinstein, one thing that people, uh, hopefully know about her, but might not remember is that she was on, um, the, uh, the, the, I can't remember what the name of it right now in San Francisco is, but she was basically on the city council, right on the city council when Harvey milk was shot. Um, so she, yeah, she was a fellow counselor at the same time. Couple of things that I didn't know about that was that she was actually friends with Dan white. Dan white was the guy that, that shot Harvey, right? And murdered and murdered him.
00:08:47
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And another thing that I've heard, and I need to check out the full veracity of this, but I also have heard that Dianne Feinstein was in possession of Dan White's personal journals and never released them.
00:09:03
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Isn't that wild? What? I've never, I never heard that until what's today, Sunday. Never heard it until yesterday. And I was like, holy shit. And I haven't had enough time to like dig into it yet. Um, but I'm going to, because I find it absolutely fascinating that she had that well, that she had those journals. Isn't that crazy?
00:09:22
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Yeah, that's insane. Um, well, thank you, Diane Feinstein for being 90. I mean, not 90 years of work, but like probably like 60 years of work. If I'm being honest, you know, I agree with you. The other thing that I would say though is like y'all it's okay to retire.
00:09:41
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Yeah, you don't have to work until you die. I agree. And look, somebody might say, well, Maddie, what about Bernie? And I'm like, yeah, Bernie too. It's okay for you to retire and go hang out with your grandkids. It's okay to leave. And I don't know about you, dude, but as soon as I can retire, I'm going to do that. And I'm not going to die working. Sorry. Maddie, I have told you many, many times that if I could do one thing and get paid for it for the rest of my life, I would. Yeah.
00:10:10
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If I could have a one-hit wonder out there for like a like a music or whatever, I don't care about being famous. I'm just I'm okay with just being content. Listen, Andrew, we're one episode away from that. We're going to get that one episode that will just pay us the big bucks. Thank God.
00:10:28
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So listen, Dianne Feinstein, rest in peace. Next up, big week for Joe Biden, who is the president of the United States. Some might call him POTUS. Some might call him Joe. I don't know. There's a few big things for him right now, right? Number one, he walked the picket line with United Auto Workers. He is the first president to do that in history. That is truly incredible. No other president has ever walked a picket line.
00:10:54
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Um, and the fact that he did it, it kind of rocks, not going to lie. So that's cool. Um, on top of it, he's also undergoing an impeachment inquiry right now. Isn't that hilarious in Congress? So stupid. It's so dumb. And the Democrats are making short trip to the Republicans on this. Um, and then also he made a really important speech last week. It's October 1st, when we're recording this now, made a very important speech about how the MAGA philosophy is basically endangering democracy.
00:11:24
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I don't disagree with them. Yeah. I mean, who doesn't? I don't like, I guess, magazine. It's just it's one of those things that like there should never be in a democracy. There should never be a side that truly like takes over that because that's not a democracy.
00:11:49
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You know what I mean? And I think that with MAGA and with all this Donald Trump stuff, we won't belabor this too much, but it does become an aristocracy or a... I don't know another word for it right now.
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Yeah. And it's putting one person in power over everyone else. Yeah. I don't know about you, but I've never met a perfect person. And I don't think I ever will. And I don't think that one person should ever be in power of everybody else. There we go. Good night.
00:12:24
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Shawn Mendes might be one perfect person I've not met him, but he he actually might be I mean he is he's I Follow this Twitter account called best of Shawn Mendes You should too
00:12:39
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It's nothing but daily reminders of how perfect that man is. And finally, in a really dumb week for US politics, once again, it looks like the GOP is ready to shut down the government, which is not good because it shuts down essential services for a lot of people.
00:12:59
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it means that things just get backed up, so if you're waiting for your passport, sorry, not gonna happen. If you're waiting for your student loans to be processed, oops, sorry, not gonna happen. If you're waiting for the IRS to take care of your taxes, there are so many things that are at stake when this kind of thing happens, and on top of it, you know who else doesn't get paid? Our soldiers don't get paid, which is just awful, considering that the people who are doing this
00:13:26
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are the ones who like claim to love the military so much. Right. Kind of fucked up that you're doing that, dude. Got some news. This is like the like whenever this comes up, because this does come up like every I don't know, I say every like every like five, seven years like this comes up.
00:13:43
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Um, and I just think about like your job, my job, fucking Chipotle, fucking Potbelly, like all these places. Like if they just decided, uh, we're going to shut down, like you don't do that. Like you just, like you've got to just, I don't know. It's so,
00:14:00
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It's so pretentious and so ridiculous. It's childish. Yeah, it's so childish. Honestly, we're getting ready to fly in about a week and a half here. We were getting nervous that the TSA and airports and whatever was going to be interrupted.
00:14:21
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Yeah, I mean, hopefully, hopefully, I mean, I don't know, but hopefully it doesn't because that would fucking suck on your vacation. Like, yeah. Well, thankfully yesterday we learned that they are extending everything 45 days. Okay. All right. That's good to like figure things out. But it's only 45 days. Like, I don't know. I don't know if you we both kind of work in like, quote unquote, like corporate America.
00:14:44
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And 45 days to get something done is not a lot of time. So yeah. Like, are you fucking kidding me? Like, and also like these people get paid so much fucking money and your healthcare, their healthcare is like the best healthcare in the world. And they get this and they get that all these fringe benefits fucking do your job. Do your job. Great. I agree. Anyways, that is a certified, terrifying corner. Good luck everybody.
00:15:09
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All right, let's move on into the meat of the episode. And today we are talking about something that is very near and dear to both of our hearts, and that is movie theaters.
Movie Theater Experience and Etiquette
00:15:19
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Yes. Both myself and Maddie, if you've listened to the 105 episodes before this, you've probably put together that we both grew up working in movie theaters. And so we feel like it's a good time to just kind of like talk about movie theaters, the history of it, some crazy things that happened in them and also like
00:15:38
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what we think makes like the best movie theater experience. Should we start with the experience part, do you think? Yeah, I think so. We put together kind of like a list of what what me and Maddie and this doesn't go for everybody because everyone has a different experience and everyone has a different mood they're going into a theater with. But what we think is the best movie theater experience. Maddie, why don't you start?
00:16:02
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Yeah, well, to start right at the top of the list with something that is extremely obvious, which is a comfortable seat. Yes, I agree. But they can't be too comfortable because I'm getting a little later in life and I fall asleep a lot. Yeah. And you know, like there are there are movie theaters that I really adore that don't have comfortable seats. Right. So like the one I'm thinking about, if I started to call you all out, but like music box in Chicago. Yeah.
00:16:27
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Music box is, if you have never been to it before, it's a glorious old school movie theater. They have a Calliope organ. I mean, it's an amazing place. It really, really is. But as much as I love it, the seats in the main theater anyway, because there's either three or four theaters there, there's three, right? I think there's just one other one. There's just two theaters in there, the big one and the small one. Okay, so there's two screens.
00:16:52
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In the smaller screen, those seats are kind of new, so they're fine. But in the large one, in the main screen, those seats are old and they are not great. So it's this weird balance of like, God, I love the place, but fuck my ass hurts when I go there. Well, I get the preservation aspect of it. I totally understand that. But when you're going there, for instance, in the month of October, when you go there and go to the 24-hour movie marathon of horror movies,
00:17:21
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Those seats are not good for that. If you're going to see fucking Killers of the Flower Moon from Scorsese coming up, which is going to be almost four hours long, that's a lot, dude. Comfortable seats are important. One thing that I do miss because I go to the lighthouse here in Dublin all the time, which you hear me say nearly every episode.
00:17:42
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Um, the seats are good, but they're not like those big, like the big American seats. You know what I mean? With like a couple there and like a recline. I do kind of miss that because those, those were great seats. Those were really, really nice.
00:17:57
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Next on the list, I think you put this one down because I don't necessarily need this, but I will understand where you're coming from. You said a good bar and unique concessions. I don't like to drink at the movies. It's just like my thing. Like I just don't really like it because I get sleepy. That's just like I can't explain it. Sleepy? Who gets sleepy town?
00:18:21
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um or i have to go to the bathroom and i hate having to go to the bathroom during during a thing but unique concessions i will i will give that to you um i'm kind of well just do you have anything to say about that yeah well i mean um so i don't like to drink at everything that i go to see like i mean i'm always going to get something some kind of beverage whether it's oh my god
00:18:40
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I will definitely get a giant Coke Zero. Yeah. I'll get a soda. I usually bring a bottle of water with me into every thing that I see now just because I guess I start coughing or I just want to drink some fucking water. I'm going to bring that in and fuck you if you tell me now. So I bring in the bottle of water for sure. And then I would say 75% of things that I go to see in the theater, I'll buy a glass of wine or I'll buy a couple of beers.
00:19:04
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Sure, it's just nice to have I don't like to get like wasted during it. That's for sure because that's not I wasn't saying that at all. No, no, no, no, no, no, for sure. But I mean, like just for me, like, I mean, you know me, I get sleepy when I drink. So like I don't I don't want to fall asleep. But it's just it's nice to have like
00:19:20
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It's nice to go to one and like they have something good and it's not like just like a bottle of Miller white. You know what I mean? They have like a couple of nice, couple of nice pale oils and a couple of nice stouts and a couple of this. It's just like nice to have, to have that like selection and like, um, I mean, I haven't been to Alamo yet, but I'm sure that they probably have something like that. You know, my God, they have, they literally have too much.
00:19:42
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God, crazy. But then once again at Music Box, they always had a nice selection at the nice bar around the corner. Yeah. I love that little attach bar and stuff like that kind of thing. Yeah. And then in terms of unique concessions, usually, I'm pretty standard with what I get, like popcorn and candy. But every now and then, if there's like at Lighthouse, for example, they have this beautiful pastry case with
00:20:05
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brownies and cakes and, you know, the rolls and it's just like, they're beautiful. And every now and then I'm like, yeah, you know what? I want to fuck with that pastry. Let's go. And it's good. Wow. That's cool. Um, so speaking of popcorn, I think popcorn is quintessential and it is so
00:20:23
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We'll talk about both of our theater experiences in a little bit, but popcorn for me is so important, and I feel like it has gone by the wayside of what good, proper popcorn really can be.
00:20:39
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And when it is popped in the theater, when you go to that matinee show, and yes, I go to a lot of matinees because I'm an adult, and you're getting that fresh popcorn, there's nothing like it. Now, if you go to like, let's say the 515 show or like the 645 show, there's always this part where there's like pre-arranged bags and buckets under hips.
00:21:05
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I can't do it. I cannot do it. I don't want that. I don't mean to be a Karen. I don't mean to be anything crazy about it. But if I'm going to pay the $12 for that popcorn, I need it to be the fresh stuff. Sorry.
00:21:20
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I completely agree with you on this. Popcorn is quintessential to the movie experience for me. Even if I'm not hungry, I'm going to buy popcorn at every movie that I go to. I can go to an all-you-can-eat buffet before and I will still get popcorn. I absolutely just have to have it.
00:21:38
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You know, let me ding my place here. I love you, Lighthouse Cinema, but like they don't pop the popcorn. And I think it's it's it's weird. I don't I don't know if it arrives pre popped or if they pop it somewhere else. But like where they have the concessions, both there's two concession stands upstairs and downstairs. Neither of them have a popper. And so they're just like in this big case. And I think keep it warm. And they, you know, put it not the same.
00:22:04
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But it's the same and I still buy it, but it's not the same. And honestly, it's nowhere near as good. And like I also, I guess because it's Europe, there's no like butter thing here either. So like what not not having the butter on it. Also like I'm not even that big of a butter person on popcorn, to be honest, but like I need to have a little bit and it's just not there. So as much as I love the place, you need to improve your popcorn. I'm sorry. Yeah.
00:22:31
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All right, let's move on to kind of the ambiance of the actual theater itself. So I think it's really important that people and audiences like excited to go to the movie, but also like are quiet and like, they're not there for an ulterior motive. They're not there to chat with their friends. They're not there to be on their phone. They're there to see the movie. Like, I think that's really important. And then in the theater also like,
00:22:58
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Like, I think that you and me, especially working in theaters, can respect this. They have to be clean. And the floors, like, just mop the floors every night, please. Because the sticky floors are a lot. I mean, it's just, it's just a sign of respect for your audience, if I'm being honest. And like, you know, too, in the same token, like you as a theater goer, it's important that you respect the theater. Like, if you spill something, could you clean it up? If you spill your pop, like,
00:23:24
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OK, it happens. Just go tell somebody, you know, like it doesn't have to. They're not going to kill you. Like, you know, you got to tell someone, you know, and also like when you're getting ready to leave the theater, just take your fucking concession shit and put it in the trash. Thank you. Thank you. It's not that hard. It's literally.
00:23:42
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Every theater that I've ever gone to, there's a trash can literally right outside the door. You just put it there instead. That's all you have to do. They usually have an usher with a fresh trash can right there. This next one that we have here on the list, this is an important one, especially pre-COVID, during COVID, after COVID kind of thing, a one-seat buffer between all guests and groups of guests. I am all about this.
00:24:08
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You got to. I don't mind other people, but I don't want them directly right next to me. And I hate fighting over the armrest. So I'll tell you this. When I went to go see scream six at lighthouse, I bought two tickets. I was dating somebody at the time and I thought that we might go together, but we actually broke up the day before. So he did not go with me, which is just fine. But I had that other ticket and I was like, you know what?
00:24:33
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I want to keep that seat too. So when I got in the theater and I sat down and I put my stuff on one seat and it was a fully packed theater that night, when somebody came to ask for that seat, I said, no, I have a ticket for that seat. And I felt great about it.
00:24:48
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That's awesome. Fuck yeah. And then two other things that I just think make the theater experience, and then we'll move on, is that I think you have to have good sound, but you can't have it so loud that you can't enjoy your experience. Because I've been to theaters where it's so loud.
00:25:09
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that I almost can't even concentrate on the movie. But then I've also had theater experiences where it's so quiet that I can't hear dialogue, but I can only hear like music. You know what I mean? I totally agree with you. I mean, without sound, you literally can't hear the movie. That's the whole point. So like, if you don't have it perfect, then there's going to be a serious problem for people. Yeah, it has to be right. There's no way around it.
00:25:38
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And then finally, the last thing, and this is a thing that we've come up with in the last 15 years, maybe, is the pre-picked assigned seats. Yes. Thank you. Chef's kiss. Thank you that I don't have to get to the movie theater a half an hour early anymore like I did in the 2000s slash 90s. It's weird. It's the last time that I'll mention it, but at my theater here, we were doing
00:26:03
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pre-assigned seats and then they got some new system for the loyalty program and then the pre-assigned seats went away. And I was like, and I still haven't gotten an answer like, why did you do this? And I'm really, really hoping that they bring it back because I don't like chaos. I hate that. I do too. And I know what seat I want every single time. So just let me select that seat. It's so much better if people select ahead of time.
00:26:32
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Oh, my gosh. Yeah, totally. All right. So as we alluded to both myself and Maddie, both had early childhood, childhood years. Yeah. Yeah. Working in theaters.
History and Operations of Movie Theaters
00:26:43
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I worked at the Cadillac five. Maddie, what did you where did you work? I worked at the art theater in Hobart, Indiana.
00:26:50
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Yeah. So my theater experience was pretty awesome, actually. I loved working at the theater. The only thing that sucked was all the people and just seeing how people treat theaters. And I mean, keep in mind this was 2001-ish, I guess. And it just, the way people would, literally when we had to clean up a theater, we would have to take a leaf blower in
00:27:18
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and just blow all the popcorn so gross and like after like clean it up from that. So it just shows you how much popcorn people would leave on the floor. And I get it. You know, things fall out of your mouth with popcorn, especially popcorn. But like, come on, be a little nicer to people. Some crazy things about my theater. This was an old stage theater that they converted to a movie theater. So we actually had a backstage
00:27:43
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And the crazy thing about Cadillac Michigan is that back in the early 1900s, it was all connected underground so that you could basically share feed and do all the things underground. And we still had those tunnels under my theater. And so that's where all the movie posters were and the old cutouts and the letters for the grandstand and all that stuff. And so we would always go explore down there. And it was pretty cool.
00:28:10
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I can remember we had one ghost. There was a there was a there was a I'm not even joking. I don't know who put it up there. I don't know why they left it up there. I don't know what the story is. But there was a noose hanging from the rafters behind the screen. And there was a story that someone had killed themselves back there. I don't know if it's true. But we did have a lot of crazy things that happened in one of my screenings of signs. The M Night Shyamalan movie. The film actually burned and we.
00:28:40
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Like stop everything like a lot of crazy things happen at the Cadillac five now, it's the Cadillac four I don't know what happened But what I can remember is that I made literally no money
00:28:57
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And I basically took my pay home in garbage bags of popcorn because at the end of the night we would just empty it into garbage bags and I would take it home and my whole family would enjoy popcorn on a Friday night. Hell yeah. Similar experiences at the Art Theater in Hobart, Indiana. The Art Theater opened in, what was it, 1947 I think is when the Art Theater opened.
00:29:20
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Wow. It was a beautiful old little theater. There's a there's a website called, what is it, cinema treasures, cinema treasures dot org, where you can like look at various old theaters. Oh, 1941 is when it opened 1941. The first movie was One Night in Lisbon with Fred McMurray.
00:29:37
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The art theater was a beautiful, old, art deco-ish style movie house. It had one big screen, probably sat, I don't know, 200 people, I would say, something like that. It had a ticket booth right out front with two sets of double doors, and the ticket booth was right in the middle. It's fun.
00:29:59
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It was really, really cool. I worked there, um, God, from like my sophomore year of high school through senior year. So like 1996 through 2000 basically. Um, and like you, we made nothing like literal poverty wages. Um, like I think I made like three, three something an hour. Like it was, it was insane. I would have paychecks that would like literally be $7. It was, it was absolutely, it was stupid.
00:30:27
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Um, but we had a blast working there. I worked there with like, you know, just like friends from high school, basically. And, um, our, the owner, his name was Mr. Prosecci, Ed Prosecci, um, who was long past. Um, and he was, he was so mean to all of us.
00:30:42
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I mean, mean. He would yell at us all the time. He had a mean boss, too. He would call us names and he would say this and he would say that. But I will say like there there was something in him, too, like as mean as he was. Like, I really think that, like, that's just that's just all he knew how to be. And like I think that deep down, Mr. Prosecci honestly probably liked us all a lot because we all loved movies, you know, and I think that he did, too. And he just sort of lost that love somewhere along the way.
00:31:10
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Another guy that was a real character was Mr. Kaczmarek, who was also a teacher at the middle school in Hobart. I think he taught math, if I remember correctly. Mr. Kaczmarek was such a nice guy, and he was the projectionist every night. And so he would bring me up there to show me how he was splicing the reels together, and he would give me cuts from the reel of movies that I really loved, and he would secretly give me the movie posters and all that kind of stuff.
00:31:38
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He was he was such a cool guy. I think that's cool. But if he's not rest in peace, Mr. Kazmirik, Dale Kazmirik, that was the same deal. Mrs. Prosecki worked there, too, who was the wife of Mr. Prosecki. She was just sort of not all there in the head. God bless her. She was very sweet, though. And then we stole candy all the time. Let me tell you, any candy we wanted, we just took it. We did not give a flying fuck because we made nothing.
00:32:04
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Um, and the same goes with you. We also took home garbage bags full of popcorn, this huge bags. It was ridiculous. And speaking of popcorn from earlier, we made our prop popcorn properly. We put in vats of oil into this machine. It was, oh, that part was gross. And we would make it fresh every single time. There was one lady called the butter queen. That's what we called her. And the butter queen insisted on butter in thirds for her big bucket of popcorn.
00:32:34
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Oh, we have these people too. And she drove us nuts. And she would watch us do the butter. And if it wasn't enough, she would make us do it again and put salt in each layer of it too. And like, you know, I didn't mind people saying extra butter or like extra salt, but if you want it in thirds, that's too much, baby. That's too much for me. Sorry.
00:32:57
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So we had, and we'll move on after this, but we had in our local newspaper every week when the movie theater times would come out, there was a little coupon in there that was like for one free small popcorn. And so dealing with those fucking coupons every week with people coming in and wanting their stupid little free popcorn
00:33:19
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And then I think it was 20. And then we had this stupid fucking rule. It was 25 cent refills, but then they added tax. It was 27. So fuck off. Fuck off. And so people had to come in with a quarter and two pennies to get there to get their refill, which was just ridiculous. So annoying. I will say one other cool thing about our concession stand is that we had green river on tap. That was fucking cool.
00:33:43
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What is that? I don't know what Green River is. Green River is, it's a soda and like there's, there's not, I don't think there's caffeine in it. I think there's not caffeine, but tons of sugar though. And it was bright green. Like it was like a deep, well, not bright green. It was like an emerald green. So like a, like a Mountain Dew?
00:33:59
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Uh, not, not bright, like a mountain dew, right? But like, uh, if I guess maybe green ever sort of had like a little bit of a mountain dewy flavor to it, but a little bit milder, but like imagine like an emerald green soda. It was, it was that. And I loved green river. Oh my God. It was so, so good. Um, and we had it on tap. It was really cool. I'll have to look that up. I don't know. I've never heard of that before. It was delish.
00:34:23
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All right, so speaking of movie theaters, we have to go back to the beginning, the history of movie theaters. Yes, please. So the history of movie theaters can be traced back to 1893, where Edward Muybridge projected hand-painted animated images at his zoo praxographical hall. Andrew, that was good for you. Good job. I practiced before this. I'm sorry.
00:34:48
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at the World Columbian Exposition in Chicago, actually. But the first storefront theater was actually, in the US, was dedicated exclusively to showing motion pictures, was the Vitascope Hall established on Canal Street in New Orleans, of all places.
00:35:05
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in 1896, where it was converted from basically like a warehouse store. The first permanent motion picture theater is in the state of California, and it was called Talley's Electric Theater. It was completed in 1902 in, where would you think? Of course, Los Angeles, where they showed the Great Train Robbery, which was a 12-minute film.
00:35:30
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Think about how long films are today. And that's just crazy that it was only 12 minutes. I'll tell you what, give me more 12-minute films. I'm here for it. I'm ready. Seriously. Some people that changed the game, and this is my opinion, for theaters and how they were experienced is both Alfred Hitchcock and William Castle.
Innovative PR and Tragedies in Theaters
00:35:54
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We talked about House in Haunted Hill a couple of episodes ago.
00:35:58
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But Alfred Hitchcock, he had this brain. And listen, the guy is problematic. The guy hated women and is not a great person. But he did have a mind for marketing and for PR. So for Psycho, in his advertisements, he begged people to keep the story a secret. He also staged real nurses in the theater during the showings.
00:36:22
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Um, he would also let, he would also close down the theater after the movie started. So if you showed up five minutes late, you're not getting in. Sorry. You know what? I love that rule. Bring it, bring it back. I do too. Cause I cannot stand when you're watching the movie and then also you see that bright light from the hallways come in.
00:36:40
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for the birds the concept behind kind of like what he was doing is and I didn't know this but he actually like either they were either advertisements or he sent out like a mailing of these like cut out like almost like almost like cat eye type masks
00:36:58
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that were in like a bird form. And if people could cut them out, put them on, wear them to the theater and wear them to the theater that they were assigned to because there was like a number on the mask, then he would let you go to the movie for free. Oh, wild. That's cool. But like the thing was is that you saw all these people walking around downtown with all these fucking bird masks on and you're like, what is going on? I love them.
00:37:23
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And then William Castle, he kind of like changed the game in another way as he made the movie theater experience kind of like what we call now today 4D, where he in his first movie. So keep in mind this guy in 1958, William Castle, he mortgaged his house for to fund his first film Macabre. And basically what happened is he would give
00:37:47
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As people walked into the theater he would give theater goers a thousand dollar insurance certificate just in case they happen to be scared to death. That's great that's wonderful.
00:37:58
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Like we said, House on Haunted Hill, he would have rigged up monsters and skeletons with glowing red eyes. I know the music box actually just did this last year that I would have loved to see it. I'd get a chance to. That would come through the theater at certain times, which is just insane. The tingler, which I almost recommended for this episode, but it just didn't quite fit the thing.
00:38:21
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Um, is that certain seats in the theater would have a little jolt so that like when the tingler was loose, it was loose in the theater and it would give you a tingler and it would like vibrate certain people's seats, but only certain people's seats, which I thought was really interesting. Uh, at 13 ghosts, he had special glasses that you could own. Like if you wore them, you could see the ghosts, but if you didn't wear them, you couldn't. I love that.
00:38:45
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And then finally, in 1961, kind of his piece de resistance, homicidal, he basically, what happened is if you left the theater, you had 45 seconds. He was like, okay, if you're too scared, you now have 45 seconds before the scary parts start, you can leave.
00:39:06
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But if you left, he would put you in the coward's corner. And that's great. And you would get paraded by people saying that you were coward and you would be given a yellow sign that stated you are a bona fide coward. Jesus. OK, that might be a little bit of overkill to the saying, but but but I admire his his gusto.
00:39:28
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Yes. And I think you have a couple of interesting little experiences that happened in theaters that are just insane. Yeah. You know, I'll just give you a couple of them because literally there are 19 of these from Buzzfeed because why would they ever have a list that might just be five? But so if you want to go read all 19 of them, you can search for the article 19 movie theater tales that will scar you for life from Buzzfeed from 2015.
00:39:52
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Remember that year? I don't. Let's see here. Here's one. This one's called The Dookie Drop. And this person says, when I was 17, I started working at the local movie theater. One Sunday afternoon, a man came walking out of this movie theater and started walking toward the bathroom. I realized something fell out of his shorts as he was walking. I went to pick up his dropped item, but when I got closer, I realized the man was pooping his pants.
00:40:22
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Oh no. Fell out of his shorts onto the carpet. I gotta tell ya, I would leave and quit and never come back. Literally never come back. There's one here called the Unbothered Blowjob. I used to work at a movie theater and I caught a couple in mid-BJ. It was the last show in that theater. They were alone, but they totally missed that the movie had ended. Go figure. The house lights were up
00:40:49
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and four people were flanking them from either side to escort the couple out. If you're gonna do it, you should come before the movie ends. I'm just gonna say that, right? And then one final one here, also about genitals. The mid-movie masturbator. At a screening of Cat People, I suddenly realized during the Natasha Kinski John heard sexting, the Natasha Kinski John heard sexting,
00:41:18
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that a guy behind us was jerking off. I can hear the rhythmic strokes of his hand rubbing up and down on his jacket. Unfortunately, he hadn't finished when Natasha started turning into a panther. He stopped zipped up and left. Wow. So just a few of the crazy stories from that Buzzfeed article.
00:41:43
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I was just thinking about when we reviewed Cat People. I was like, how can you masturbate to that movie? I'll tell you, Cat People is a genius little film. That fucking thing was weird as fuck.
00:41:52
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Yeah. And then finally, just to close out, you know, a little bit of we have to be a little bit terrifying on Friday, the other four podcasts. And I think that this was something that in our life, at least for me and I'm sure for you, something that kind of like changed theaters without a doubt, without a doubt. It's it's still I still think about this almost every time.
00:42:15
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So on July 20th, 2012, there was actually a mass shooting that occurred inside a Century 16 movie theater in Aurora, Colorado. You'll remember this, that this was during the Dark Knight Rises film. He was dressed in tactical clothing, a 24-year-old, I'm not going to say his name because I refuse to, set off tear gas grenades and shot into the audience with multiple firearms. Sorry.
00:42:40
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No, it's it's it's it's sad because these are people that are like us that were going to see a movie and just wanted to have just wanted to have a good time. Yeah, 12 people were killed and literally 70 other people were injured. So fuck that guy. Why?
00:42:57
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Yeah. Fuck that guy and fuck guns. Um, I don't understand it, never will, but anyway, it's, and you know, it's, it is one of the thing, like I said, it's, it's something that I think about still every single time I look, when I go into a theater now, I always know exactly where my exits are.
00:43:14
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And I don't want to live like that, but that's just, unfortunately, the world we live in. It's how you have to. And it's, you know, I don't blame you for getting emotional because, you know, like I said, those are people going to see The Dark Knight. Those are people like me and you and our friends. And that could have been any theater any given day. And it just happened to be in Aurora, Colorado, and it wasn't in Chicago, Illinois, you know?
00:43:39
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there but for the grace of God go we but how awful how awful and I forgot it was that long ago too yeah that's really weird to think about yeah all right well that will do it for our horror in real life segment we will take a break and be right back with what you've been watching bitch
00:43:59
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Let's all go to the lobby Let's all go to the lobby Let's all go to the lobby To get ourselves a treat
00:44:11
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Welcome back, it's time for what you've been watching, bitch. What you've been watching, you movie theater going fucking ticket carrying popcorn eating bitch. That was a good one, I liked it. Yeah, you liked that? Uh-uh. So this is the segment of the show where we literally talk about what we've been watching. It could be good, it could be bad, it could be somewhere in between, but we're gonna talk about it. So, Maddie, what you been watching?
00:44:34
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You know what, I realize both of us have the same one, so why don't we save that for the last one? Okay, yep. So I'll start instead with one that I really, really got into. There's one called Influencer on Shutter. Influencer is a movie, not a series, and I loved it. I had a great time with this. Let me pull up the information on it really quick, because I just remember who was in it. But Influencer is about what you think it's about, which is social media influencers, right?
00:45:04
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And this movie came out in twenty twenty two directed by kurtis david harder like i said it's on shutter you should be able to get that everywhere on shutter and it's just it's really good i don't wanna give i don't wanna give a lot of way about it can't you can't.
00:45:19
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Have you watched it? I think I talked about this a couple of episodes ago. I don't remember if I brought it up on the show or not, but yeah, I really liked it. I loved it too, but it's one of those movies that you benefit from not knowing anything going into it.
00:45:35
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You're right. So I'm just going to leave it there, but I will tell you that I really, really loved it. By the way, I have cheese in my mouth. Deal with it, listeners. Um, I love cheese. I'm also, I'm hungry. Um, but influencer was so good. And you know, like as somebody who works in social, I maybe got even more enjoyment out of it, to be honest.
00:45:55
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But let's be honest too, all of us that are on this show and that listen to the show, we're all on social in some way. And this will make you think about that a lot. So just watch it. Like Andrew said, the less you know about it, the better. And I hope that you love it too. We'll leave it there. Yeah.
00:46:10
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I loved that actress to the one that plays the main, the main. Well, I don't know the main, but whatever. So, yeah, this is like and we'll get to my my last one when we talk about shutter again. But like this is like this is like the magic thing about shutter is like every once in a while you stumble upon like a really fucking good, huh? But you kind of have to get through like three bad ones to get to the good one.
Series Recommendations and Film Reactions
00:46:35
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No offense shutter. I mean, it's but it's just the truth. Totally agree. All right. My first one is called Surviving the Raft. I don't know if you know anything about this. I have not heard anything about this. So I stumbled upon this really randomly. I think it was maybe recommended to me or something. So do you know about the documentary The Raft that came out in 2018? It sort of sounds familiar. Remind me.
00:47:03
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So in like 1970, let's see here, 1973, this guy named Santiago Genovese, he put together this group of 11 people. So it was a time in US history, much like right now, where everything was very divided, very
00:47:22
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of like horrible. And he basically put all these people on a raft in the ocean and said, you guys all, it's a social experiment. Let's see what happens. I'll be on there with you. And basically he said like, I'm purposely going to put people of different mindsets on the raft together and let's see if we can like figure it out.
00:47:43
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Um, there's a documentary about it. You can watch it from 2018. This is now a reality show where discovery, the channel put, um, I think it's not quite 11, but it's, there's a group of people on a raft in the ocean and said, figure it out. And, but they didn't just, they didn't just put people on a raft. They put
00:48:07
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like the MAGA people with the like really liberal left people and they put a trans person on there with somebody that doesn't like trans people like they put like it's insane so if you want to go see some
00:48:23
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the world in like a little nutshell and there is some racist thing that's happens on that show and it is it is if you want to see what the world is like in your outside of your bubble you should go watch surviving the raft because it's some wacky ass shit that people out there and I for one
00:48:47
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It was eye-opening because like I said, we live in both very urban settings where the mindset is of one way and you forget sometimes that there are some wackos out there. But at the end of the day, I think that this is a good thing to see because you have to remember that it's not just you and your friends that are picking up the world and you got to still remember to reach out to people and
00:49:16
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You gotta do the work. And this is just one little tiny reality show, but it did kind of like give me a little bit of a brain reset of like, oh shit, there's still people like this out there. So it was a good show. Yeah, it was a five minutes to check that one out.
00:49:33
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Um, my next one is one that I actually watched this morning. Um, and it's called, there's nothing out there. Have you seen this? I don't even know what this is. Okay. You need to watch this for sure. Um, there's nothing out there is from 1991. It's directed by Rolfa Konevsky.
00:49:49
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And Rolf Konevsky was 20 years old when he directed this. And I don't know a lot else about him, but I've heard him called like a bit of a wunderkind when it comes to this kind of thing. He directed also The Black Room, The Hazing, Party Bus to Hell, Pool Boy, Nightmare, like a bunch of just like kind of crazy like shock shock. Yeah, like Shock Horse with a lot of boobs and stuff kind of thing.
00:50:13
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Um, and I gotta tell you, this one, this one is great. I think that you're going to like this. I watched it because I got it. I got an email from, I'm a subscriber to movie and, uh, they emailed like, they're like sort of like spooky stuff last night. And the featured one is this one. And I said, this is the film that's sort of like laid out the groundwork for the scream franchise. And I was like, Oh, weird. I've never heard of this before. And so I watched it and God damn it.
00:50:43
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Andrew, watch this. You'll get that exactly. You'll get it fucking to a T. It's wild. This is like a teen horror film spring break kind of thing. Right. And it's it's like like six six teenagers and they're all it's spring break. They're going to one of the teenagers like lake houses like their their parents aren't going to be there. So they go there to like go have sex and drink. Right. Classic story.
00:51:09
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And on the way there, funky things happen. And of course, once they're there, all hell breaks loose. I'll leave it there. It's comedic. It's not, this is not highfalutin. Trust me, it's really, really not. But I had a blast watching it. It's maybe, the only thing I'll say is that even at 90 minutes,
00:51:28
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It's maybe a little bit too long, but there's a point where I'm like, how is this still going for a lot of what it is? Yeah, for what it is. But I got to tell you, it's good. And if you're a scream fan, watch this and you'll you'll get a lot out of it. You will.
00:51:43
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Cool, I'm definitely check that out. I never even heard of that. My next one literally just went on HBO Mac. Well, now it's just called Max, whatever branding they're trying to get. I know it's the mega to the sequel to the mag giant sharks, of course. I struggle with this series. Have you seen? Have you seen their eye on that? No, I have not.
00:52:09
Speaker
So like I just don't it's hard for me because like I feel like they at one point they want to be Jaws and at the other point they want to be Piranha 3D and they can't figure out which angle to go with as far as like more campy or more serious. And it's just it's the same thing for the mag too. Like there's this like end of the movie bloodbath but it's not fun. I don't know. Like it just
00:52:38
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I want to like these movies. I think Jason Statham has carved out like a great little, I mean, we just talked about Death Race a couple, a couple episodes ago, and I love it. And like, I just want them to have more fun with this. And I just don't think that they know how to have fun with this series. And I don't know. And I don't think it did very good in the theater. So I don't think it'll be going on to them. But
00:53:01
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Um, I don't know if you like the the mag and the mag to please reach out because I think I'm missing something. But overall, it was kind of just like it was it was it was the decent enough watch. But I just when I wanted to have like, oh, yeah, we're getting into it with giant fucking sharks. I just felt flat. So I don't know. Yeah. But that's the mag to mag to even measure.
00:53:28
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My next one is also from Shudder. It's a series called The Terror. Did you watch this? This was on AMC at one point, correct? Is this about the ship? It was, yeah. Okay, I didn't watch it but I remember it. So I remember I had started to watch it way back when and I just, I think I started watching the first episode and like got bored for some reason and never went back to it.
00:53:51
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And it's recently now back on, um, back on shutter. And it's just the first season. There are two seasons to it, but I just started watching it because I was sick last week and I had nothing else to do. Um, and I gotta tell you, it's really good. I really, really enjoyed it. It is, um, number one, it has, it has an amazing cast in it.
00:54:16
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I'm going to point out the cast right now. The cast is Jared Harris, Tobias Menzies, Paul Reddy, Ian Hart, Kieran Hines,
00:54:25
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Christina Rodlow, George Takai, for God's sake. I mean, there's a ton of people in this. It's really, really good. Jared Harris is Captain Crozier. Jared Harris was one of the main guys from Mad Men and a bunch of other things. If you see him, you know who he is. Really, really good stuff. And it's all about these ships full of Englishmen looking for the Northwest Passage in the Arctic.
00:54:52
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and they get iced in and it's all about them trying to survive and it's wild. It's sort of like the other thing too. I don't want to give you too much because the story is really so good that if you don't know a lot about it, I think you're better off. Just go into it and I would say at least give the first two episodes a try and if you don't like it after that, you don't have to keep going but give it a try.
00:55:17
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And just keep going, because I thought it was really, really brilliant. And loosely based off a true story, correct? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I forget what the ships were called, but it is based off of, I think, two ships that literally just disappeared in the Arctic. They're nowhere to be found, the men nowhere to be found, they're just fucking gone.
00:55:37
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What this show does better than anything is the atmosphere. The atmosphere is incredible. It's dark, it's gloomy, you're in the middle of nowhere, there's snow, there's ice, there's this, there's that, and you're constantly afraid because you don't know what's out there. I thought it was really, really brilliant, so I highly recommend it.
00:56:00
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Yeah. I remember when it came out, I wanted to watch it and was just one of those things that I just forgot about. So I'm glad that it's on shutter now so I can go back and watch it. And I also remember the second season looking really good, but it was a completely different story. I think that one, that one I haven't watched yet, but I'm looking forward to it.
00:56:16
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Yeah, my next one is also on shutter. Funnily enough, it's called the elevator game. So I read this creepypasta a long time ago and was really creeped out about it. So I was really excited for the movie.
00:56:33
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The movie's not great. The core of the movie is actually pretty good, the core of the story, but the writing and the characters just suck so bad that it doesn't make for
00:56:50
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the overall movie experience to be good. So if you read the creepypasta and you want to like maybe see a little bit about like a way that they could make it into a movie, I mean, watch it. It's not it's not awful. I will say that. But like just like we get into it so many times in these in these movies, but just like sometimes the writing is just so important. Yeah. That like it just it spoils the movie. And so like shame.
00:57:17
Speaker
Um, I, I overall, I, I've kind of come in at like, I don't know, like a, a three out of seven. You know what I mean? Like it's kind of like, just like just below average, but, um, I mean, it's a new event shutter. So I was, I was going to watch it. I mean, maybe I still will just to, just to, you should, I mean, it's, it's worth watching. Just like, don't get your expectations too high. You know what I mean? You know what that reminds me of too, is the left right game.
00:57:42
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Ugh, I need that to be a movie. You know what, though? I don't know. It might be better audio. Because I'll tell you what, I remember when you told me about it and I listened to it and I was like, holy shit. That was one of the best audio experiences I've ever had. It was so fucking cool. Listeners, if you've not listened to the left-right game, turn this off right now.
00:58:05
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to that. Andrew, don't tell them that. Don't tell them that. Listen to it after you finish this episode. It is, it's so good. And it really scared me too. Yeah, it was creepy. Now, Andrew, this last one is one, well, wait, you've done your three, right? Yep. Yeah. Yeah. And I have two. So the last one for both of us then is, no one will save you. For me, I watch it on Disney Plus because I don't have Hulu and Andrew watched it on Hulu.
00:58:31
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Yeah, they're all the same now. They're all connected, but no one will save you to best sum it up. Um, I don't think I want to because I think it's better to go in surprised, but, um, I will say this though, Andrew, there was, there's one, there's one. Um, and this is, this is not a spoiler because people, if you look at the poster, you know, that this has to do with space, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But there is, there's one review on letterboxed from Hamish Calvert. Hamish and I follow each other on letterboxed and on Twitter for that matter. Hello, Hamish.
00:59:00
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He's in Belfast. And his review was one line for this movie, and it was, must not have chiropractors in space, which I thought was hilarious. And I won't tell you why, but that is pretty funny.
00:59:14
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Yeah. So basically it's about a girl. She lives on her own out in the country, just outside of a small town. And basically what happens is she gets, I'll just say invaded. Um, and that's the best way to put it. Um, what's interesting about this movie and what you should know going into it is that there is no dialogue for the most part. Um, it is mostly just kind of,
00:59:34
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Uh, I don't know how to explain it. Like, how would you explain it? It's just like sounds, you know what I mean? You know, it's, um, this movie is told, it's certainly through sound without a doubt. Um, it's told through choreography, right? Yeah. Um, and like, I mean, this is, this is also not a spoiler, but there's like, there's also a couple of scenes where the girl is like teaching herself a dance where she lives, right?
00:59:58
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And that is sort of like a big motif of the film is movement and like dancing. So it's told through choreography. It's told through just sort of like general imagery, I would say too. But you're right, this movie does not have any dialogue at all.
01:00:18
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Yeah. I mean, overall, I really liked it. I watched it two nights ago and I'm still kind of ruminating over the ending because I don't think I quite even... I don't know if I don't understand it or if it wasn't told to me in the other way.
01:00:37
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I don't know. Did you have that experience too? Exactly that experience. And that's the reason why I'm not a big fan of it, to be honest. I think everyone is really divided on this one. Except for maybe me and you. I think you and I are kind of in the middle. But for the most part, people have been like, oh, I love it, or oh, I hate it. Oh, really? I definitely don't hate it.
01:01:01
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But I also definitely don't love it. And I think the reason why I don't love it is because while I'm fine with films not giving me every answer, I am honestly okay with that. I do need to know what happened at the end. I walked away from it and I was like, wait a minute.
01:01:20
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Like I might not have been like, my brain might not have been like 100% that night or whatever, but like, I don't really get it at the end. I'm saying like, I was like, honestly, I was really into the movie and really wanted to love it, but then the ending happened and I was like, wait, what does that mean? So I agree with you. And like, and like, you know, sometimes I think about like, you know, I'm this kind of fan of things and so certain things should really be what I like.
01:01:49
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And like, you know that I'm obsessed with aliens and all of it. And like, once again, that's not a spoiler people. So like, this should have been a movie that Maddie's heritage really loved. And I didn't. So I was like, oh, that kind of tells me something. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, everyone, you know, watch it for yourself. It's easily accessible on Disney Plus and Hulu, like we said. And let us know what you think, because
01:02:13
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I don't know if we know what we think about the ending. To be fair, I've been pretty busy this week, so I haven't had a good chance to go read about it and see what people are thinking about the ending, but yeah, it didn't get me.
01:02:29
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All right. Well, that will do it for what you've been watching. Mitch Matty brought us influencer on shutter. There's nothing out there currently on movie, the terror season one on shutter and no one will save you, which he watched on Disney plus. And Andrew also watch no one will save you on Hulu. Uh, but also he had surviving the raft on discovery, the mega two on HBO max or whatever they call themselves.
01:02:54
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and the elevator game on shutter. So folks, that is another edition of what you've been watching, bitch. Take a little break, stay tuned for our first feature of the episode, which is the blob. If it had a mind, you could reason with it. If it had a body, you could shoot it.
01:03:26
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If it had a heart, you could kill it. Now, man is no longer the supreme being on this planet. The organism is growing at a geometric rate. By all accounts, it's at least a thousand times its original mass.
01:03:49
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Nobody believes me about what happened tonight. What did happen? You were there, you saw. Ask me life form that haunts its prey. Predator. I want that organism alive. I think you ticked it off.
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Terror has no shape.
01:04:32
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It's oozy. Hopefully it's not coming out of your goozy. It's the blob. Andrew, tell us about the blob. Scream now while there's still room to breathe. Terror has no shape. Remake of the 1958 horror sci-fi about a deadly blob, which is the spawn of a secret government germ warfare project, which consumes everyone in its path.
01:04:58
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Teenagers try in vain to warn the townsfolk who refuse to take them seriously, while government agents try to cover up the evidence and confine the creature. Directed by Chuck Russell, written by a lot of people, Theodore Simmons, Simmons, and Kay Lineker. Chuck Russell and Frank Darabont. Oh, Frank Darabont. This production and distribution was handed by TriStar Pictures, which when I saw that little unicorn run onto the screen, I knew I was in for a good
01:05:28
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time. Brian is played by Kevin Dillon. Meg is played by Shawnee Smith. Paul is played by Donovan Leech Jr. Sheriff Herb is played by Jeffrey Demun. Fran is played by Candy Clark. Dr. Meadows is played by Joe Seneca. And Rev. Meeker is played by Del Close. This is Rated R. It comes in at
01:05:47
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Perfect ninety five minutes true it's released on august fifth of nineteen eighty eight mostly filmed around abbyville louisiana the budget was about ten million this only made eight point two million i would be surprised to see that too yeah.
01:06:02
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So obviously, this is a remake. We'll get into that in a little bit. But overall, Maddie, was this your first time with the 1988 blob and what were your initial thoughts? Not the first time, but it's been it's been a long time. That's that's for sure. The blob is the blob is great. It's a really it's a really great fun film to watch about a fucking comet thing that drops on Earth.
01:06:28
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goo comes out of it and it just starts to eat people. It's the dumbest premise in the world and it works. Unexpectedly good. Yeah. I mean, it's so stupid. It's just dumb.
01:06:43
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And this is not a movie that I should like, you know, back to things like, oh, well, what is Maddie Zardich like? This shouldn't be one of them. But I'll tell you what it is, because this one has so much going for it. Right. I think that this does homage to the original film in really great ways, but also has a lot of fun with it. Right.
01:07:04
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I think that the the actors are actually really committed to their roles in this and it shows and like I think you know, I don't know. I think that it's hard to do with things like this. Like when you're in something that is so ridiculous like the blob,
01:07:23
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I would just imagine that taking it seriously on set is probably a challenge. I would just say. Right. But they they do it so well. This movie is also just like it's very goofy and weird. Like Del Close as the priest is like a weird gay.
01:07:42
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perv, like who just likes the football players. Yeah. And like, and like the football players themselves are like, are like actually kind of cool. And like the bad boy, you just, you fall in love with them. And it's just, there's just so much to love about this movie. And like, and some of the lines are ridiculous. Um, like what was the one, um, Hey pal, a pack of Trojans and a, and a, and a banaka spray. Like it just funny shit like that. Um, I think you, I think she wants your body. Yeah.
01:08:12
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Yeah. But then also too, like, I mean, I don't know. Sometimes I kind of like the blob, you know, like the blob is not great, but sometimes the blob gets the people who fucking deserve it. You know, like, for example, there, there's a part where the blob was in the movie theater, which is why we chose this movie. Right. Um, and like, like the kids are in front of, are in front of these people and they're like, they turn around and they're like,
01:08:37
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Hey, mister, we're trying to watch the movie. And the blob just snatches the motherfucker right up. And you want to know why? Because that motherfucker was talking during the whole film. He deserved it. Right. The blob is justice. The blob is also justice when the one guy is basically date raping the girl in the back of the car. I forget their names right now.
01:09:00
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Yeah, Scott and the girl, whatever her name, Vicki and Vicki. Vicki is like asleep and he is like, oh, I'm going to unbutton your fucking blouse and I'm going to start touching you. Blobs like, actually, no, I'm going to fucking eat you. You date rape fuck. And like, that's kind of cool. The blob is justice, right? The blob is justice.
01:09:22
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But then the blob also is not justice. The blob, it's people that maybe it shouldn't be eating. The blob does things maybe it shouldn't do. And so the blob sometimes is not justice. But you know what? Look, aren't we all a little chaotic sometimes? I don't know. I've got a soft spot for the blob.
01:09:40
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part of the project. This is not my first time either. I've seen this movie a couple times, but like you, I don't think I've seen it in at least a decade. Oh, for sure. But I just think that this movie is so much better than it needs to be. Agreed. For like a 1988 sci-fi remake. You know what I mean? Yeah. And it diverts expectations at almost every turn because
01:10:08
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I think like going into it, you think Paul is kind of like you. You think Paul and Meg are kind of like your two main characters, like Paul is so fucking hot, too. Oh, my God. And we've seen him before in cutting class. Go back to school is terrifying, right? Yes.
01:10:24
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But, um, and when Paul is essentially the second person to die in the movie, you're like, Oh, shit. Like, did nobody expect that one coming. And and really awfully like totally like, like dissolved into the blob.
01:10:41
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And then, you know, we get the deaths of the sheriff, which is a huge death off screen, mind you, because he like shows up in the blob in the in one of the worst deaths, in my opinion, is when it's Fran, right? She's the waitress when she gets into the phone booth and is trying to call for help in the blob, essentially envelops her in the phone booth and then takes over the phone, which is just so awful because
01:11:08
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Up to that point, Fran has just been the nicest person ever to everybody giving away free food and staying open late for Brian to eat food and all this stuff. The movie pulls no punches. You would think that anyone is safe, no one is safe in this movie.
01:11:29
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And I think that that give them a lot of credit for kind of like doing that, because there are other movies that are set up like this. The movie that this made me think about the most was Arachnophobia. Oh, I could see that. Yeah, sure. Because it's kind of like the small town, like what's happening there, like that kind of a thing. But like in Arachnophobia, I kind of felt like I knew who was going to die and who was going to live. And in the blob.
01:11:57
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I didn't. I was like, Oh God, we're just going to kill everybody. Um, including that, I don't know if you saw, this is like a blink and you'll miss that moment, but there's a point towards the end where, um, there's a guy that just gets kind of flomped. Like, I don't know the best way to put it, but he just gets kind of like pushed down by the blob and it's, he gets blocked. Um, and then the other big death is of, um, the little kid's friend, like who? Yeah. Yeah.
01:12:25
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who gets, like, literally dissolved in the sewer. Like, this is a child and you think, like, oh, at least the children are going to be safe in this because they got out of the theater, they're in of the sewer, they're with Shawnee Smith and Meg, and they're going to get it
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01:12:40
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out. And he just gets fucking dissolved by the Meg, or not the Meg, got a shark in my brain, dissolved by the blob right in the sewer. The blob is going to blob. That's all that the blob knows how to do.
01:12:54
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Well, and the other thing that I really appreciate about this is that there's an explanation for the blob. Yeah. Because I think we've had a lot of movies like this where something falls to earth. I'm thinking of Night of the Creeps, things like that, or you don't really understand what this is or why this is. And in the blob, you get a pretty succinct little explanation. You know, it's it's the military. And from OK, so this is what I put together, please.
01:13:23
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Uh, rebel with what you think essentially what I think is that they were coming up with some sort of viral germ in space, like on a space station, it got out of control loose. It attached itself to a satellite and the satellite fell to earth. Is that.
01:13:42
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I think so. Yeah, that's that's what I put together anyway in my brain. I think that works. I think that a lot of the scenes, especially up front when the blob is like slowly making its way through town, are really effective. I agree with you. The Scott and Vicki scene, I think, is really effective because when Vicki comes to life as the blob and is just like oozing and goosing and going all around and whatever.
01:14:10
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It is frightening. What I will say about Scott, I do like that trunk set up. I'm not going to lie. Yeah. I also I also really loved in the movie when when Brian when he wrecks his he wrecks his motorcycle. Yeah.
01:14:28
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And then he has to go to the mechanic, right? Yeah. So he's at the mechanic. And like, he's friends with the guy that runs the shop who I can't remember his name right now. But he's talking to him and like he goes over to the ice. The guy goes over to get a couple of beers that are no maker, no maker, right?
01:14:45
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And that snow comes back to haunt you later on at the end of the movie when the blob is destroyed. Yeah, it's snowing in town. And it's so fucking cheesy, but I love it because the guy goes, Hey, man, I told you we get snow. I was cracking up. And I also love how the camera pans down to what's left of the blob.
01:15:08
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And the blob is turned into crystals now. I just thought it was great. I thought it was great. I do have a question about that is so I probably can't answer it for you, but go ahead. So obviously they freeze the blob at the end. That's how they, quote unquote, like stop it or kill it or whatever. But because we know the very end where the reverend has his thought out pieces of the blob in a jar,
01:15:36
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What happens when the blob on Thaws and where where do they take those little crystals to make sure that it's. You know, did you think about that? I mean, look, these are these are questions about the blob that maybe no one has ever answered. Maybe only Del Close knew the secrets of the blob. But I love I love like those parts are like the how it all comes together and the foreshadowing and you know, all of it.
01:16:05
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Look, none of this is intellectual.
01:16:07
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but the way that it's done is honestly almost joyful. It really is. I mean, there's literally a line that I think, who is it? I think we pissed it off. Well, I think Paul says it before he dies. He says, Scott Jesky's gonna die because he like, and I was like, well, yeah, and then he does. There you go. That's it. It's just, I think that this movie is more intelligent than I think we give it credit.
01:16:36
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Let me tell you one of the most intelligent pieces of movie making genius in this. It's when you first see the blob really do its blob thing and then immediately jump cuts to the two kids eating jello at the table. Yeah. And they're like, Oh my God, it was so good. I wrote down, wait, what did I write? Where did I write it down? The blob to jello jump cut in all caps. Lol.
01:16:58
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I loved it. And then very, very shortly thereafter that is when Paul is coming over to pick up what's her face for the date, right? And oops, the dad's the pharmacist. Just like little shit like that was just so good. It's those little 80s gems of humor that are just like
01:17:21
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Now they're so like it's so it's so nothing at all. But like in the 80s, it was like, oh, my God, look at that. It's crazy. Well, it's almost one of those things that like when you see Brian wreck his wreck his motorcycle at the beginning, you're like, surely this jump will never come back into like exactly. Or I love I love when they bring the the the for the old the old guy in the woods when they when they bring him to the hospital to get checked out, he's got the blob on his hand.
01:17:49
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And the nurse at the front says, does he have Blue Cross? I have that exact same thing written down in my notes. Oh, it's so good, it's so good. And then I wrote down right after that, I wrote down, because I wasn't paying attention to any of their names, I wrote, if the clean cut one were the top and the naughty one were the bottom, it would work. And I still stand by that completely. I was like, oh my God, they need to be in a porn and I need to watch it.
01:18:15
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Are you thinking of Paul and Scott? No, I'm thinking of Paul and Brian. Ugh, now Brian doesn't do it for me. Really? But if he was the bottom though, do you know what I mean? That kind of thing? No. I did have a double take when it came to Fran because for a second I thought it was Rebecca DeMornay and then I was like, oh she would have been waiting.
01:18:38
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Yeah, but she would have been Rebecca DeMornay would have been too young at this point to play that part. But I was like, wow, they are they are mother daughter, for sure. I'm trying to think. Oh, so speaking of the special effects in this movie are.
01:18:54
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they they range from like fantastic to almost like comically bad because there there are parts like when Paul gets killed or when the projectionist gets killed in the movie theater where there's like these faces in the blob that are so terrifying because all done practically and then we get to these parts and I'm not really sure why there's these parts where it just feels like they did like really bad green screen like to where
01:19:21
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It looks, and I think maybe it's an homage to the original to where it's made to look like a little bit shoddy sci-fi, you know what I mean? I think there's also some good homage here to ET actually. Like when the military comes in and all the white suits and everything, it just screamed ET all over the place. And even like
01:19:45
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Like the way that they, the way that like the military people were doing things and like the way that the sound kind of changed and there's a little bit of all of it. I was like, Oh, they, what's his face is watching ET when he was thinking about that scene. Yeah, no, I can see that. No, I didn't think of it at the time, but now that you brought it up, I was like, Oh yeah, for sure. My note that I wrote there, I was a little stone when I wrote that too. I said, Oh, this is some ET shit now.
01:20:11
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One of the more shocking deaths to me towards the end is when the deputy is like back broken backwards through the window during the church. Is that a church or is that a community center? I don't remember. I thought it was a community center.
01:20:27
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But when he gets pulled through that window, I was not expecting that, but that was pretty gross. There's so many good things about this. I have little to say bad. I think maybe some of the acting is a little stiff, but I think that's because it's a remake and they're trying to bring it to
01:20:47
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like 50s, 60s acting, you know what I mean? The only thing that I would say around the acting, like, okay, and I agree with you, like, there's definitely some stiff acting for sure. And like, stuff where you're like, oh, come on. But like, I will say the the initial part with Del Close in the pharmacy, yeah, with like,
01:21:07
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I did think about it after I watched it. I was like, were they trying to read gay there? Were they trying to make him creepy? What were they doing? Because the only way that I read that scene was that the priest was all about like sinking his teeth into this football player. Did you read that too? Or am I crazy?
01:21:31
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I mean, yeah, I definitely did because he has that kind of timbre in his voice that reads like pedophile. I want to touch you kind of. That's how it read for sure. And let's be honest, Scott's a good looking guy. He might be a he might be a feeler upper and he gets his comeuppance at the end. But like he's a good looking good looking man. But and this just feeds right into our horrible, horrible taste in people that look like people from our hometowns.
01:22:00
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It's the absolute truth. Andrew and I have a... That is our kink, I guess. I don't know.
01:22:07
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Yeah, unfortunately, we all love our abusers. But yeah, yeah. But yeah, and then well, what's weird about the priest in my opinion, Reverend Priest, I'm not really sure what he is, Reverend. Yeah. But the weird thing about him is that you get that initial like that the scene that you're talking about. Yeah, sure. And then we get the ending where he's now like he's now like a tent.
01:22:32
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What do you call those people? A revival tent. Yes, like a revivalist. The note that I wrote down was, gay priests got scary. Yeah, and it's... I don't know if they connect, if I'm being honest. I don't think they do, yeah. Because I don't really see how that guy turns into that guy. You know what I mean? Yeah, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. And also, I mean, if we're being honest too, like...
01:22:56
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There's a line that he has when town is going nuts where he says, like, this has all been prophesied. And I was like, it was? I mean, I was like, okay, we haven't heard of this prophecy. And I actually know the Bible pretty well. There's nothing in it about a comet with a blob in it falling out from space. So that
01:23:19
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I think in general, his character doesn't make any sense. And if we're being honest, like if you think about the movie, if you got rid of his character, it would be just fine. Yeah, agreed. Because I don't think that that little extra thing on the ending does anything for it. I actually I think it was just odd and completely unnecessary, really. Well, I think what they're I think what they're trying to do is they're trying to do the invasion of the body snatchers like and fair enough where it's like this could go on. You know what I mean?
01:23:48
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Yeah. And it's a product of the 80s. It's a product of the time to where you had to say, but maybe not. It happens in all these movies. It happened in Night of the Creeps. It happened in Nightmare on Elm Street. It always has to be like, well, maybe not. Maybe.
01:24:10
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So I think this is like a product of the time, but it doesn't spoil the movie for me. But yes, I agree with you. If you took his character out, would it make a big difference? No, not really. We'd be just fine without him. Are there any big trivia things about the blob?
01:24:25
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Yeah. So speaking of Del Close, Del Close had been scheduled to direct a mock opera about Ronald Reagan at New York's Lincoln Center for the performing arts during the filming of the blob. However, their production was canceled and he was unexpectedly available to audition for the blob. So I don't want to see a mock opera about Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan. Me too. But just think if that had happened, he wouldn't have been in the blob. Isn't that crazy?
01:24:54
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And a little bit about the director here, discussing the poor critical and commercial performance of the film in an interview with Starlog. Director Chuck Russell stated, maybe it was a mistake to do a remake of the blob with a sense of humor. I thought that would be an entertaining interpretation. Unfortunately, it was released late in a very hectic summer, filled with big films, and it didn't have a particularly good ad campaign.
01:25:20
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So that sort of speaks a little bit to the gross that we heard earlier, which was two million less than they spent on it.
01:25:27
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And why we don't have a blob, too. Exactly. Right. I mean, and I guess like the blob just seems sort of so intrinsic to the horror canon. Like, you know, if you're I mean, even if even if you haven't seen the blob, you know what the blob is. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? And so like it is interesting to like to hear that number and go, God, it only made eight million bucks. Like that just seems it seems crazy to think about.
01:25:54
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Yeah, well, I love it. Speaking of, Maddie, we hear at Friday the 13th horror podcast a grade on a seven stripe scale for the seven stripes of the gay old rainbow. Maddie, what do you give the blob? I gave it a six and I said thoroughly enjoy this remake slash reboot that pays homage to the original and has fun while doing so. I also gave it a six and I said unrelenting and surprising. The blob is one of the few remakes that surpass the original.
01:26:24
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You know what? The blob's gonna blob, Andrew. The blob's gonna blob. Well, folks, that does it for the blob. I hope you had a blob in good time. We'll be right back with our next feature of the episode, which is The Last Matinee.
01:26:51
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No, no, no, no, no.
01:27:59
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Are you ready to go to a matinee that's not a matinee? Then you might be interested in the last matinee. Matty, talk to us all about it.
01:28:09
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Yeah, you're right, it wasn't a matinee. I literally just thought about that. Oh, God. Anyways, no talking, no texting, no breathing. On a stormy night in Montevideo, an engineering student named Ana takes over the duties of her father, a projectionist at a declining movie theater due to his ill health. But unbeknownst to her, the audience watching the film that she's running starts being murdered by a crazed killer.
01:28:38
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The Last Matinee, or All Maria La Matinee, was directed by Maximiliano Contenti, also written by Maximilio Contenti with Manuel Facal, produced by three different production companies, Yuco, Pensa and Rocaccine, and La Gota Cine, and it was distributed by Dark Star Pictures North America.
01:29:02
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Asesino was played by Ricardo Islas, Ana was played by Luciana Grasso, Tommas played by Franco Duran, Angela played by Julieta Spinelli, Esteban played by Bruno Salvati, Goni played by Vladimir Kanez, not sure, anyways, Maité played by Dalana Carici. The film is not rated,
01:29:26
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It's 88 minutes long, a tri-country production with Uruguay, Mexico, and Argentina, released on the 3rd of September of 2020, and filmed at the Chine Opera in Montevideo, Uruguay. So this was a first watch for me. I'm guessing for you two. Yes, that is correct. And this, Andrew, was this not on shutter before?
01:29:54
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It is currently. It's on there for you. I had to rent it, but there's sometimes weird things that happen with that, right? Anyways, first watch for both of us, Andrew, what'd you think? Yeah, so like you said, the first time watch, obviously a foreign language film, so had to get in the mood for that. Just because subtitles, you just have to read like whatever. It's not that big of a deal, but once you get used to it.
01:30:21
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Overall, I'm kind of in the middle on this one. I liked it quite a bit, but there are moments where I just get frustrated and I understand that what we're trying to mimic is kind of like an ajalo or a Dario Argento film or like
01:30:42
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of that ilk. And to be totally honest, I've seen a handful of those movies. And for the most part, I have the same frustrations with those movies. So I think that that's just a product of what this movie is. Yeah, sure. I get that. But there are just certain moments where I'm like, can you do something? Can you move? Can you fight back? Can you do something? Or I got really frustrated. But
01:31:07
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I think that the overall filmmaking and especially the score, you could give this to me on a record and I'd put it on every day. The music is fantastic. The scenery, being in the theater, being in a classic theater, and how they filmed everything, the gore is unexpectedly good because I didn't know what I was expecting, but I was not expecting it to be
01:31:31
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a pipe through two people's heads as they're kissing. I did think that there was a lot of really beautiful shots. There's a specific throat slit where you get cold weather screaming out of his throat. There's a lot of really good stuff.
01:31:50
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I think where I get frustrated is just like these kind of films where everyone is so helpless and the killer is so powerful for no reason. Yeah, sure. And that's it. I had a great time watching it. I just there were times where I wanted to yell at the screen like, like, can you just fucking move or go somewhere or fight or kick or like whatever? But overall, I still had a great time watching it. What about you?
01:32:15
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I think I'm nearly identical on this, to be honest. I admire Jell-O. It's not my favorite genre, though. And I understand the importance of it. I still think it's fun. I like Daria Argento. Don't get me wrong. I mean, we visited his museum, for God's sakes. Exactly, right. We literally went to Profunda Rosso. So I mean, I like it. It's just not my thing.
01:32:40
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And for much of the same reasons that you just talked about, like it's just things in Jollos, like everything is just like a big like plateau all the time. Or that's not the word I'm looking for. What am I trying to say here? It's like it's always just like a big picture.
01:32:56
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You know, picture after picture after picture instead of like a flow of things that happen that I quite enjoy in a film. And so like it's it's it's designed to like be formed around these pictures of this and of this and of this and of gore and of color and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And that's cool. It's just not really super my thing. So I get what you're saying there in a lot of ways. And I think we're kind of saying the same thing almost.
01:33:24
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I would say that this film is definitely pretty fucking gory. If you have any aversion to eye stuff, this is not the film for you. Yeah. And I mean, I mean, also like who does who who likes to watch eyes being cut out of heads? Like anybody out there? No. And who likes to watch eyes being eaten, eaten? Yeah. I mean, nobody does. And when the killer in the beginning,
01:33:54
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is in his car.
01:33:57
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Taking something out of a jar. My first my first note about this film is this, bro, is that a pickle jar? That was my first. And I put in my notes, I was like, this makes me never want to eat a pickle ever again. And I was like, what is he eating? And then, you know, fucking he goes into the movie theater. Then there's all these like little plateau scenes of things happening in the movie theater. Someone's buying a ticket. Someone's doing this. Someone is a child going down the stairs and they spill their gumballs all over the stairs and they go bouncing down.
01:34:26
Speaker
Now listen, number one, ain't no kid need that many fucking gumballs. I thought the same thing. I literally wrote down, no kid needs that many gumballs. That red one is one too many, you little shit. And I stand by that. That is a giant bag of gumballs. Gumballs are not satisfying candy. I'm sorry, they're not.
01:34:46
Speaker
Gumballs are weird and odd and why would you want a gumball? I don't really get it. You can't swallow the gumball, you know? Like, what's the point of it? Anyways, the gumballs are a foreshadowing of what's going to happen in this film because the serial killer that is with us
01:35:05
Speaker
He is an eater of eyeballs. And so he is determined to go kill all these people and then take an ice cream scooper or whatever that thing is and scoop out their eyeballs and put them in a pickle jar and pickle them and then eat them later. That is what his job is. And he is getting paid to do it. No, he doesn't get paid. I'm joking. He's a killer.
01:35:29
Speaker
So, I mean, look, that's a lot because that means that every murderer from that point forward is going to be pretty heinous because even if he just stabs them or slits their throat, he's still scooping out their fucking eyeball. And that's hard to fucking watch.
01:35:45
Speaker
When you have that forced perspective of inside the old man's head, which I'm assuming they use like a pumpkin or something for that, but like it still is real, real gross. That's raunchy, man. I mean, fuck, like guess what? I love my fucking eyes. You know what I mean? I would have to say like, I mean, it's, you know, that old trick of like, if you had to lose your senses, what's the one that you just like could not lose?
01:36:08
Speaker
I gotta say probably my eyes. If I couldn't hear, that would suck. If I couldn't taste, that would be terrible. If I couldn't, I don't know, touch, I guess, how terrible. But if you can't see, I don't know, man. That wouldn't work for me.
01:36:24
Speaker
Yeah, that's rough. What I will say about this and kind of going to what you're talking about is that the gore is really well done. It's very well done, truly. I think that for me, some people get far worse deaths than others and I don't really understand
01:36:45
Speaker
And maybe I'm not meant to understand. I hadn't thought about that. But like the two the two lovers like I guess I shouldn't say lovers. The two I'm not saying the two that are the two that are on the date like basically that show up together that awful woman that smokes in the theater and is really awful. I want to. She deserved to die. But I wanted her to have like a crazy death and all she does is get stabbed.
01:37:10
Speaker
And so I was like, well, you just also had these other two fall in love on the bus, follow each other to the theater and make out in the theater and they get a fucking. What do you like? What would you even call that? Like a rebar through the head? Yeah, like a crowbar ish kind of thing. And in my notes, I wrote down, oh, damn, he killed a cute new couple already. Like I was like, oh, I wanted them to live. I really do.
01:37:36
Speaker
I know. And same with, um, um, oh gosh, what was her name? Same with, was it? I can't think of her name. The girl that survives longer than with Anna. Uh, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, where she is almost out on the roof and then gets pulled down and then is like killed in the projector. And I was like, geez, like,
01:38:01
Speaker
I didn't want to know. Like I sometimes I sometimes feel like filmmakers just want to make you fall in love with someone so that they can kill them like brutally. You know what I mean? Well, I think that you're probably correct. I mean, I think that's that's a.
01:38:17
Speaker
That is a successful strategy because that's what makes you feel things while you're watching it, you know, instead of just like being sort of baseline the whole time. One thing that I wrote in my notes, maybe you can remind me of what this was because it is kind of a funny note. So.
01:38:33
Speaker
After I wrote down, oh, damn, he killed a cute new couple already. I then wrote down and the dude come at the same time. Too many bodily fluids. Was that right? Did that happen right right in a row in succession? Yeah, that's they literally they go back and forth between them, like kissing and the two couples, like rubbing his over the jeans, his over the jeans hand job. Also, like, I mean, listen,
01:38:58
Speaker
I have, surprisingly, I have had an orgasm before, so I know how they work. That guy, like, look, we've all, if you're a man, you ejaculate. That is what happens, folks. And like, look, some people ejaculate a lot, some people don't, some people are kind of in the middle, whatever. That's too much.
01:39:18
Speaker
I guess, I don't know, I've had a little bit of both in my life, but I've never had it where I've been like, oh my God, I have to go wash my pants. I'm like, dude, you've got jeans on, you're in a dark theater. He goes into the bathroom and it looks like he's pissed himself for God's sake.
01:39:36
Speaker
Yeah. The only way I can explain that is that if he wasn't wearing underwear, which maybe, but he was wearing underwear though, because when he's cleaning himself up in the bathroom, he has underwear on. But it's not like when you jizz on yourself, it's not like white paint.
01:39:56
Speaker
And guess what, everybody? It dries clear, I know from experience. So I don't know. I thought it was maybe a little bit overboard right there. Yeah. I did think it was funny that Goni was obsessed with Brooke Shields and it just I did, too. Yeah. It just like shows like in 1999, like in a time capsule of like, who was who was who were the people we were talking about in 1999? But Shields, baby, which I was I was watching. What was that show? What was the show she was on at that time? I can't think of it. I don't know.
01:40:26
Speaker
Uh, some sitcom I can't remember. Um, I thought, um, I was like, when we were watching the movie and then there's, you know, much within the blob where they're watching the garden tool massacre, uh, in this movie, they're watching Frankenstein day of the beast. Yes.
01:40:44
Speaker
I'm what I'm telling you is that these filmmakers dedicated to making two movies because there is the last matinee, but then there is a full on movie that I think is well real. Well, so let me tell you a little bit about that. Right. The film's killer, Asasino, is played by Ricardo Islas. Right. And he also directed the movie within the movie Frankenstein, Day of the Beast.
01:41:10
Speaker
Oh, no way. That's interesting. Yeah. But I was also watching Frankenstein Day of the Beast and being like, this seems like one of the most boring movies I've ever seen. I fucking wrote. Andrew, we are on the same wavelength today. I wrote down. Where is it? Oh, where is it in here?
01:41:31
Speaker
I basically I wrote down this movie looked boring as hell. Yes, it really it looked so fucking boring and everyone's watching it. And I'm like, why are you all into this? Why? Anyways, I thought it was funny that this theater only has two projectionists for its entire run of the week, because I don't know about you, but the movie theater I worked at, the manager was also the projectionists. Of course. Yeah, five of them. But
01:41:59
Speaker
I wrote in my notes. So there's a guy, I don't know what they're trying to make him because at first I thought he was homeless, but then he's like wearing a scarf and he's kind of like an art kind of guy. He shows up at the end too. But he has this moment where he just like stands up and he looks at the three teenagers and he just goes, shut up.
01:42:19
Speaker
Shut up, shut up, shut up. And I was just like, oh, I'm this guy. I am this guy. Fuck yes. Hell yes. And proudly that guy, proudly that guy. Let me tell him. But did you also notice the small detail of when they the cops come at the end and they kind of get the shutters open finally, that not only is that guy out there, but also the teenager's fourth friend who they're like, who they were waiting for at the beginning is also standing out there. Oh, I didn't I didn't catch that.
01:42:49
Speaker
Cause remember at the beginning of the movie when they're standing outside the theater and they're like, uh, sharing their little flask and getting ready to go in the movie. They're like, Oh, he told, he told us to wait out here. And then they ended up going in. He's out there. So I thought that was kind of a cool little detail that the filmmakers added in that I thought was really nice.
01:43:05
Speaker
Another little detail is that there's a poster for the film Anguish from 1987 in the box office. And Anguish is a real movie. And it's about a mother who telepathically commands her son to steal the eyeballs of her enemies and also takes place in a movie theater meta. Oh, my God. Well, did you know that was also on my short list of movies to recommend for this? No way. Was it really? Oh, that's crazy. That's funny.
01:43:33
Speaker
It also has Zelda Rubenstein on it. Zelda Rubenstein. God, that name. What a name she has.
01:43:40
Speaker
Other posters that I recognized in the theater were for Tenebrae, Opera, E.T., and another movie that I don't know if is real, but it's called Dinosario. I saw that one and I was thinking, was there a dinosaurs movie that like maybe that was real? I don't know. I did also like Policia Robotica, which is basically. Robocop. That's great.
01:44:08
Speaker
I also have in my notes that this is the grossest bathroom in all of time. So gross. Why the toilets are overflowing in Montevideo, I don't know. But it's real gross. And when he gets his head snapped on that floor,
01:44:28
Speaker
I not only thought of the impact, but I also thought of the germs. So gross. I mean, there's not any movie theater bathroom that is that's great that I've ever been in, if I'm being honest. But this one was not not that gross, though. Not not not that great. I mean, the theater I worked at, we had to check it once an hour. So once an hour. Holy shit, you guys were good. Yeah.
01:44:52
Speaker
Um, one part that really frustrated me in this movie is when, so it's a, it's a really small part, but I just had to talk about it because it really annoyed me because I hate alarm clocks. But when the alarm clock is when the alarm clock is going off and Anna cannot find it, I'm like, Anna, follow the fucking noise because she's checking in like drawers across, like across the room. It's really, it's really not that hard to figure out. You just have to find it.
01:45:20
Speaker
And like Anna, press the snooze button. It's not that difficult because she goes looking. Henry, the library. That's all I want to say right there. Where she's like Maurizio, Maurizio, that part really frustrated me. I don't know why I called that out, but it just really frustrated me. But it's frustrating. That's the reason why. I will say that when the murderer is finally killed, it is satisfying.
01:45:43
Speaker
Oh yeah, for sure. When that rebar goes through his chest, the rebar that he used to kill the couple. I felt pretty good about that. I did. And sure enough, as to call back from the early part of the movie, all of the eyeballs, like,
01:45:58
Speaker
I don't know why I said eyeballs. Eyeballs. Gumbles and eyeballs. Shatter out of the pickle jar and dance down the stairs just like the gumballs did at the beginning of the movie. I wrote down the gumballs, the eyeballs, it all comes together.
01:46:15
Speaker
Film. Yeah. And then sure enough, we get like just like in the blob, we have to have a stinger at the end. We have to have something to like, wait a minute. Hold on here. Tomas, the little kid who we have really talked about, he does a great job in this movie, too. I think he does, too. Yeah. Tomas, who has basically snuck into the theater and has watched the movie and has pissed himself and he has a whole other storyline that he's playing in this movie.
01:46:44
Speaker
He looks at the eyeball and you almost think, oh, is he the next eyeball killer? Is he curious about what that eyeball tastes like? Who knows? I mean, look, he likes gumballs already. He's already a fucking freak. So give him an eyeball. Maybe he'll like that too.
01:47:02
Speaker
Yeah. And listen, I think like, I think most listeners of our podcast would really like this movie. I think they maybe would have some of the same criticisms because there are many parts where I'm thinking of specifically, I'm thinking of the girl who's awful, the one that smokes in the theater. Terrible, hated her.
01:47:23
Speaker
she literally just sits there while he stabs her. And I'm like, you wouldn't fight back at all. I mean, this guy's knife is like a pocket knife. Like it's not like it's a butcher knife, like to where like, what? Sorry. It just really frustrated me that nobody fought back.
01:47:41
Speaker
No, I totally get it. Until our main two girls, they do fight back at the end with the fire extinguisher and stuff. But I'm sorry, but if someone shows up in front of me with a knife, I'm at least going to kick or try. You know what I mean?
01:47:57
Speaker
There was there was one part two when the girls are fighting off the guy and Fighting off the murderer and like you think that the one girl is gonna run away Yeah, she doesn't and she grabs the fire extinguisher instead. That was good. That's right. Teamwork girls
01:48:13
Speaker
At the same time, I was like, girl, if you hit that guy one time, hit him 17, hit him 17 times. I completely agree with you. I feel that way about every horror movie where it's like if you have the chance to just kill the person, I need you to kill them, kill them, make them completely immobile. You know what death looks like. Make it happen. Exactly. Like death looks like they're not alive. So unalive them. Do it. Fucking do the thing.
01:48:43
Speaker
Yeah. All right. Well, Maddie, what do you give the last matinee, which once we, and I also just want to bring this up once again is not a matinee because it's the last showing of the day, which is not a mess. This was not a matinee, folks. Um, I gave, you know, I was generous. I gave it a five. Um, you know, even with all the criticisms that we had, I still had fun watching it. Um, and I said, wow, these people wrote a love letter to Dario Argento and woo. It's a lot.
01:49:09
Speaker
Yeah, I, I gave it a 4.5. I still enjoyed it. I said, uh, music and gore is kind of like a plus in this, but the story and kind of the characters are, they, I think they could have used a little punch up if I'm being honest. Agreed. Well, Andrew, that was a fun talk. This has been a fun episode too. I had a lot of fun on this one. Um, let's end this one here and then we'll be right back with our final game of the episode.
01:49:34
Speaker
Right now, I'd like to remind you of another wonderful candy bar that everybody on Super Circus is mighty fond of. Yes, siree, I mean three musketeers. It's been a favorite for many, many years. And here's why.
01:49:48
Speaker
It's the candy bar that breaks easily into three just right pieces of the very tastiest nougat candy. Light, smooth nougat that's flavored with sweet cocoa. Lots of sweet chocolate flavor. And see, three pieces for easy eating.
01:50:04
Speaker
Well, that does it for episode 106 of Friday, the 13th horror podcast. But before you leave, we've got one more little game to play with you. Maddie, tell us all about it. Wait, what did I call this game? Name that candy. Name that candy. God, wow. What a what a name, Maddie. How could you ever forget it? So what I'm going to do here is.
01:50:28
Speaker
Oh, well, listeners, you have no idea how weird we actually are. You know what? Honestly, if they listen to all these episodes, they actually do. They know exactly how weird we are. Anyways, this is a game called Name That Candy. And what I'm going to do is give Andrew a description of a famous candy at the movie theater, and he's going to have to guess what the name of it is. Got it, Andrew? That's very perfect.
01:50:52
Speaker
Very hard. You have five candies that we're going to go through. And these are all none of these are like, you know, candies that you don't know. Like, you know, all of these candies, trust me. And and they're distinctly movie theater candy. I mean, there are ones that I would definitely put in that category. Like, in other words, these are all ones that like, if you went to the movie theater, you would get them in a box. OK. You know what I mean? Yeah, ready. But I mean, but however, you could also buy them in the store. Just point it out. And no, I get it. Yeah, yeah. All right. So, OK.
01:51:21
Speaker
This is a brand of chocolate coated caramel candies. They are a caramel disc covered with a confectionery chocolate made from cocoa and vegetable oil. They are sold in a yellowish orange box.
01:51:40
Speaker
The caramels you said? Uh-huh. Chocolate coated caramel candies. They are a caramel disc covered with a confectionery chocolate. It's a coating made from cocoa and vegetable oil. And they are sold and they are sold in a yellowish orange box. Are these Rolos? These are milk duds. You were close.
01:52:01
Speaker
Oh, okay. Milk duds. Yeah. Okay. All right. Although God, you, you got me one on a Rollo right now. Okay. Next one is, okay. Uh, yeah, this one. Hold on. Wait real quick. There we go. Okay. These are, you'll probably get this one pretty quick, but let me go through the whole description.
01:52:20
Speaker
These are malted milk balls with an artificial flavored chocolatey coating. The candy is a small round ball, about three quarters of an inch in diameter. They are typically sold in various packaging options, either in a small cardboard candy box or in a larger box that resembles a cardboard milk carton.
01:52:45
Speaker
Uh, these are the controversial whopper. You are correct, sir. Whoppers are what I was describing. Indeed. Now. Yeah. The next one here. I, you know, I like a whopper now and then I do. I do too. Um, especially around Halloween. That's like perfect when I want a whopper. They're kind of delicious. Really? You know, I love malted milk though. So now this one is one of my favorite candies of all time for sure.
01:53:10
Speaker
It is a multicolored fruit-flavored lentil-shaped candy. They consist of hard sugar shells imprinted with the letter S, and their interior consists mainly of sugar, corn syrup, and hydrogenated palm kernel oil, along with fruit juice, citric acid, and natural and artificial flavors.
01:53:39
Speaker
I'm between two, but I think based on your, what you said, they're going with Skittles. You are correct, sir. It is a Skittle. Congratulations. I was between that and nerds because you said lentils. And I was like, Oh, that's kind of, I thought about putting nerds on this list, various students.
01:53:59
Speaker
Okay. Now the next one, this one is also, I bet you're going to get this one pretty quickly, but I'll go through the full, um, whatever. Okay. So this is a candy consisting of small rounds of mint filling inside a semi-sweet chocolate coating with a dimple on one side, on one side. Um, they are packaged in varying amounts from the so-called fun size box to the much larger 12 ounce box.
01:54:29
Speaker
I know what this is, but I can't think of the name of it. It's the mint thing. So I'll read it to you again. A candy brand consisting of small rounds of mint filling inside a semi-sweet chocolate coating with a dimple on one side.
01:54:48
Speaker
I can't think of the name. They're called like, oh, oh, oh, junior mints. You got it. They are junior mints. Congratulations on that one. You're doing very well. I got stuck on your peppermint pad and I couldn't think of anything else. Okay. Now the next one here is this. Um, let me click on this link here. There we go. Okay. So these are, uh, also one of my favorite candies of all time. Um, a peanut butter candy.
01:55:13
Speaker
They are oblate spheroid in shape. How about what? And covered in candy shells that are colored yellow, orange or brown. They can be purchased in plastic packets, cardboard boxes or cup shaped travel containers.
01:55:33
Speaker
Reese's Pieces. You got it. So that is four out of five, Andrew. Well done. Good for you. Yeah, I'm surprised you didn't pull out like goobers or snow caps, like something like weird, like, you know, I figured like the fun is like the fun is the shit where it's like, what was that oblate spheroid? And you're like, wait a minute, what the fuck are you talking about? So, Andrew, congratulations on your four out of five. You passed the switch.
01:55:59
Speaker
You're welcome. Funny enough that you did that, did that game because we were literally just at a lesbian baby shower yesterday and I won the diaper game with the candy in the. Good for you, girl. Good for you. Well, Andrew, that was a very fun episode 106. A couple of things in terms of housekeeping at the end here. First off, look, we are a proud independent podcast.
01:56:24
Speaker
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01:56:39
Speaker
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Speaker
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01:59:08
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