Episode Introduction and Recap
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i gave the 13th horror podcast is a proud independent podcast. To learn more about the show, visit fregay13.com. Hello Frygays, it's co-host Andrew here.
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Unfortunately, we just couldn't get together for this episode. And so I thought, you know what, with spring being here and the weather being crazy, I don't know about where you live, but it's Tornado Alley up in here, and I'm terrified. And so I thought it would be a fun little jaunt back to episode 83, where we talked all about how weather is terrifying.
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So I hope you're staying safe. I hope you're having a great start to summer, end of spring. And we'll be back soon um in ah in two weeks where we'll have a brand new episode for you. So we really appreciate y'all's understanding in May when we were just so, so busy.
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and didn't get a chance to record. Rest assured, we'll be back soon. And then now, time for episode 83, Weather is Terrifying. Music
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Live from WCOK Studios in Lesby Gay Falls, it's the 6 o'clock news.
Strange Weather in Lesby Gay Falls
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Good evening out there and welcome to this special report. I am Steve Cox. We start tonight with a breaking story as the town of Lesby Gay Falls is having, dare I say, some interesting weather.
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Bringing us this report is our correspondent on the street, Dick Bentley. Dick, what's going on? Thanks, Steve. to stay To say the weather today is interesting is definitely an understatement.
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I am over here by the Lesby Gay Town Hall, and ah all I can say is this is the strangest weather pattern I have ever seen in my career. I am here with some locals that I'm hoping can explain ah explain this this phenomenon to me. Excuse me. ah ah Ladies, ladies, can you explain what's going on with our weather here today?
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No, no, no, wait. Can you repeat yourself?
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Indeed. That's what I thought. Men are literally, and dare I say, sexily falling from the sky. Back to you, Steve. Wow. Thanks for that report, Dick. That is shocking indeed.
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I guess all I have to say is, it's episode 83, Weather is Terrifying. i am the writing on the wall, the whisper. in the
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I'm Marjorie Greene and I approve this message to save America, stop socialism and stop China. Faith of high we ought to be from life to death to rise.
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Horror in real life. Doubters, the doomsters, the gloomsters, they are going to get it wrong. Horror in the movies.
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da I want you to know that the movement we started is only just beginning. Sometimes. you to know that the movement we started is only just beginning sometimes that is but We had beautiful weather here for this weekend, and mostly sunny skies and highs in the upper 80s. Overnight tonight, partly cloudy, mild with those temperatures dropping down into the mid 70s.
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Now we've got some big changes here for the upcoming work week starting tomorrow. going to have a volcanic eruption right near Charlottesville, and it's going to make things rather toasty across the area. We're going to see lava spill out into central Virginia and make temperatures in Richmond at 350 degrees, Fredericksburg at 345, Charlottesville, the hot spot at 400,
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not as hot off towards the tidewater, little bit more comfortable with highs near 100 degrees. The reason why we're going to have tidal waves moving in ahead of this, a global superstorm developing off towards the Atlantic Ocean. This thing is headed our way, but the key to the forecast right before this thing makes landfall, um it is going to be deflected by Godzilla. Now, a lot can change between now and then. We're looking at the latest data.
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We'll continue to bring you the very latest.
Queer Perspective on Horror and Films
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Welcome back, folks, to another edition, another edition, another episode of Freigay the 13th Horror Podcast. My name is Matty. And i am Andrew.
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And this is our 83rd episode. So if you haven't been here for the 82 prior to this, actually, probably like more like 150 prior to this with all the other content, Where have you been? Yeah, here's what it's about. um This podcast is about horror.
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Horror in real life and horror in the movies from a queer perspective. Now, this episode, we are focusing on weather and how weather is terrifying. so it' got and how And how it will only be the only thing you'll talk about after 35. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, yeah it's it's the truth.
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um It's truth, Ruth. It's fact, Jack. And we've got two good films in this episode. We've got The Fog and The Mist, both of which are... Heavy hitters. Heavy hitters. Both of which are really, you know, they look, they're fan favorites every everywhere, but they're they're favorites of of ah of us as well.
Reflections on Queen Elizabeth's Death
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And, um Andrew, let's go ahead and kick it off how we usually do with a little certified terrifying news. If we must. If we must. And and we must. ah So, Andrew, there's really just one story that everyone, if you don't know this, you're you're literally living under a rock somewhere and, I don't know, under the ocean.
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um But Queen Elizabeth, Elizabeth Windsor, the Queen of England, she is, she's dead. She's dead now. At 96 years old, she died. She died last week. um And we're recording on Sunday, September 18th right now. Her funeral is tomorrow.
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um it's been big news and like look you know i live in this part of the world and so um it's interesting in ireland as you might imagine because you know look england and ireland didn't get along for ah good long time and um this is kind of interesting and uh it's on the news everywhere it's honestly getting a little tiring um how is it over there on the news so I mean, when it initially happened, obviously it was big news. um But ah from what I see, and honestly, I'm not really much of a... I don't follow really a royal watcher the royal the royal family or anything very closely. But from what I see, it faded pretty quickly. And I yeah i feel like the sentiment was either extremely...
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ah you know, feel bad for the the the royal family, blah, blah, blah. Or it was, bitch is dead. Those two like those but two sentiments that I heard.
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Oh, God, that's funny. from from from From my perspective... like This is how ah how I feel about it. She lived to be 96 and ruled for 70 plus years. So good on you.
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i If I live to be 96, it'll be a miracle. Yeah, I mean, seriously. like you know it It is funny. like i was I was, of course, you know watching
Upcoming Live Events
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social media from from friends and and family back home. right And it it it really is interesting to see Americans like have a ah huge outpouring of emotion about the queen. Yeah, I agree. It's so weird. Because like, you guys, you you understand you ain't British, right? like And you also fought to get away from it. like of Totally. and like when I remember there there was a news story that I saw, too, that on um on Pennsylvania Avenue, or not Pennsylvania Avenue, whatever ah whatever leads up to to um to the Capitol building in Washington, D.C. Yeah, yeah. they they put up um They put up Union jacks
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And I was like, yeah. And I, and like the government did this. I'm like, do you remember when the British burned the Capitol down? Like anybody, like like anyone remember that? Maybe you shouldn't do that right now. Anyways, I mean, that is so strange. I did not know that. It's, it's so over the top.
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And you know, like, look, I, I, I, I am fascinated by the Royal family. Just absolutely fascinated that this thing exists, right? Like, you know, I, I love the crown and, you know, I love all the English, you know, shows and shit.
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Yeah, yeah. it's it's fascinating but i think that anyone who believes the monarchy is a good thing and like is like a real thing you are you need help you should talk a doctor because it is very strange the thing that you are thinking anyways look she's dead Bye-bye. It's going to cost an awful lot of money in a country where um you know people can hardly pay their bills, but have a nice party, everybody.
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So, Andrew, we'll leave a certified terrifying corner there for this part of the month because that was big enough. um So, ah Andrew, too, before we go into any content, there's a couple of really big things that we have to announce.
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Let's go ahead and about those. Yeah. Yeah. So ah two really big things for the podcast coming up in October, in early October, ah both happening in the same weekend, essentially. So a week from when you are listening to this, because this will drop on the ah the Friday before, a week before.
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um On October 1st, just because I live here, and and we're not going to pay for Maddie to come here for one day and force him to go through all all of the the flights and the the sleep and everything. Come in for 12 hours and then fly home.
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Yeah. So um I am actually going to be at the Davis theater, which is in Lincoln square in Chicago on October 1st. And I will be presenting child's play too, to a live theater audience. Um,
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And I'll be there to hand out buttons and I think we're going to do some giveaways from Dread and and all that stuff. So if you're listening, um come down to the massacre on at the Davis Theater on October 1st, where I will be there presenting Child's Play 2, which is pretty, pretty cool. We've never been able to do anything live. And this is kind of our first um weird, I don't know, forte into it to see if it works.
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Yeah, you know, it's it's it's a good thing. And Andrew, ah do you remember way back in the day but before the pandemic? Yeah. And we we had booked at the Music Box Theater in Chicago, a a famous old movie house to bring in Mark Patton and do a little event with him and, you know, do a showing of of ah what what do you put the name of the fucking movie? I even think of it right now. For God's sake. Nightmare Street 2. Jesus Christ, my brain is dead. um We were going to do it. It was all ready to go. And then like seriously, it was days after we got that all booked and planned.
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The pandemic started. So I am very excited to see that we are doing a live event. um Wish that I could be there for it. But look, there's going to be plenty of these to come um because, you know, look, it's our 100th episode coming soon. We're going to have lots of stuff planned. But the massacre at the Davis Theater. Andrew, can they buy tickets at davistheater.com?
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You can actually go on brownpapertickets.com. That's the best place. You can go through the Davis, but it's a little wonky. um So that your best place to go through is brownpapertickets.com and just search for the massacre. um Also, ah they just announced the other day that Grandpa from the Texas Chainsaw Massacre is going to be there. Oh, no way. That's crazy. If you want to meet that guy, that's another opportunity. Tickets are only $25, and it's literally like 12 hours of horror movies. You're going to have like fun.
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not and Not to like discount ah the Music Box of Horrors because I think they they do a great job. But um ah this year at the Massacre, because it's been a couple years since they've been able to do it because of the pandemic, the lineup is honestly great. It's fantastic. It's Chainsaw Massacre. It's Child's Play 2.
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It's Stage Fright, the Italian movie. oh and There's a lot of really cool movies that they're showing. So if you're interested, come down down to the Davis Theater on October 1st and watch some horror movies with me.
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I'll be there. The other thing that we are doing is on October 3rd, were unexpectedly invited yeah to come on Spotify Live um with Garrett Clayton. who If you don't know who that is, he's he's a former Disney star.
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He also played, ah i can't think of that gay porn star's name in that movie. Very famous porn star. Oh, what's his what's the porn star's name? Brett Corrigan. Brett Coy played Brett Corrigan and I think it's Cobra, right?
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I think it was Cobra, which also, if you have not seen that movie, it's a great movie. Yeah, it's ah with James. What? I can't remember. We're really doing bad today, aren't we? and It's okay. Tell them about the show. Tell them about the show. Anyway, we are going to be on Spotify Live with Garrett Clayton and his husband um on their show, Gay in the Life. It's on October 3rd at 7 p.m. via Spotify Live. So if you want to listen live, all you have to do is download the Spotify Live app.
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And just listen in. It's kind of like a Twitter space, if you will. Like they they kind of hold you and and then they will open up for questions later. So we'll be there live. um They do convert it to a podcast afterwards. So if you want to listen to it afterwards, you certainly can.
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um But just wanted to give everyone a big heads up that on October 3rd at 7 Central Standard Time, we both, Maddie being very tired, will be Spotify Live with Garrett Clayton and his husband on Gay in the Life. So let that up. Download that or follow them on Spotify.
Weather as a Terrifying Force
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it's It's going to be a lot of fun. And, you know, look, I've been a Spotify user since the very beginning. um i I didn't, if I'm being honest with you, i didn't even know about Spotify Live. So um be sure to download the Spotify Live app because, look, you can listen to the podcast later, but Andrew and I want to feel your energy while we're there.
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We need it. We're going to need it. We're going to need it. Especially me. It's going to be one in the morning for me. um So look, it's going to be a lot of fun. And to um to the folks that make that show happen, that make Gay in the Life happen, especially producer Morgan Jaffe, um thank you all so much for inviting us. And we're really looking forward to being on the show.
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Now, Andrew, back to our show after those exciting announcements. um Let's get started. Let's talk about some weather shit. It's episode 83, people. 83 episodes of talking about horror in real life. And today we're talking about weather.
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Maddie, before we go into the devastating weather news that we have in in our notes, what would you say is that the gayest weather?
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You know, so this is um this is an interesting question, right? Because it can be about like, where do you feel the gayest? Or how do you um you know how do you relax as a gay person? How does that feel? What's the weather like around you? is it What's ideal for you?
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But it could also be which weather pattern is the sassiest? Which weather pattern is, you know, the The, you know, um which weather pattern um needs to go to therapy is what I'm trying to say here. You know what I mean?
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Like most gay people. Like all of them. I've met many of them recently. Anyways, um I would say, you know, for me, the the the gayest weather for me, and let's just do some personal here, you know, is it's got to be fall weather.
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you know like Okay. I love it because that's when like I'm at my most comfortable, for sure. It's when I feel my best, when I can wear kind of like whatever I want. I don't have to like โ I like to wear jackets I can wear a jacket. I can wear sweater. Get those layers going. Yeah. you know, do some nice layering. I can wear some nice pants. I can wear some cool shoes. i don't know to, you know, wear flip-flops.
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You know, it's just, that's where I feel really comfortable. And I think too, it's like the energy at that time of the year, you know, it's like you got it in Dublin. Um, when was it? It was sad Saturday. God. Yeah. Saturday. Today's Sunday.
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It was yesterday. It was yesterday, Andrew. Yesterday was like a perfect fall day here. It was like 58. It was sunny. it wasn't It wasn't raining at all. It was just ah just a beautiful day. I went to the pub. they had ah you know a dozen pints or so.
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and um just hung out with with you know some people and enjoyed it. It was just it was a really lovely day. And that's the thing about fall days, you know? When it's clear and when it's when it's just just enough cool and crisp and you just feel great, you know you feel gay. That's some gay shit right there. When you feel great, you're actually feeling gay.
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that's That's for all you straight people out there. So remember, when you're feeling in great, you're feeling gay. It's true. Now, what about you? ah For me, I go back to sister-in-arms, Judy Garland, and I think of The Wizard of Oz, and I think that tornadoes are the gayest weather because they are chaos incarnate. That's pretty gay, yeah. And I just feel like that's the gay community in and of itself. We've always been chaos. We always will be chaos. And you never know what to expect, and you never know when we'll just pop up sometime. Andrew, you've you've you've never spoken truer words, I think.
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All right. So do you want to do our namesakes first or would you like to do some other stuff first? Oh, I can't wait to talk about this. It's one of my favorite stories, actually. Okay. So because we both have very biblical names with Andrew and Matthew, ah we both have had hurricanes named after us. If you don't mind, I will start with mine because I yours is funnier.
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ahead. So ah actually Hurricane Andrew, which happened in 1992 in the month of August, um it was the actually the strongest and most devastating hurricane on record to hit. I remember that hurricane. It was it was insane when it happened. I remember that. ah You know what?
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That's why they named it after me. Because, you know, once once you once you mess with a Scorpio, you're never coming back. Yeah. But it did strike ah South Miami-Dade County on Monday, August 24th of 1992, and it caused an estimated $26 billion damage. Jesus Christ almighty.
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um It was the most expensive natural disaster in United States history, not to be surpassed until Hurricane Katrina. Obviously, we remember 13 years later. um Almost all the damage cost was in Southern Dade County, which is actually the only part of Florida I like. So I'm very sorry. um Where the number of homes destroyed was approximately 49,000. Can you imagine that? people can't imagine I um honestly cannot imagine a hurricane destroying my house Yeah. um in homestead in the In the city of Homestead, the hardest hit community, more than 99% of all the mobile homes were completely destroyed. um So just think about that for um just a hot second.
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You already live in a mobile home, which is one of the more affordable ways to own a home you know in the 90s. I lived in a trailer when when I was young and... I think we paid like $15,000 for our house. You know what I mean? Like that was the affordable way to do it. So to have that now just annihilated and you're already on the lower bracket of the pay scale is just awful.
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15 direct deaths and 28 indirect deaths. um I'm assuming that's like heart attacks, ah things that happened because of what was going on. were attributed to Hurricane Andrew in the mainland, South Florida.
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um This actually made its way, the hurricane made its way all the way from Florida to Louisiana. So it went across the United States, ah which is insane. It was a Category 5 at landfall. So usually with hurricanes, they when they make landfall, they're never a Category 5 because they've kind of settled down in the ocean after they go through the Bahamas and everything. um And it sustained winds of 165 an hour.
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Which is just in insane. um There was actually why a movie made about this. Oh, really? What was it I remember watching it. It was a made-for-TV movie. It was called Triumph Over Disaster, the Hurricane Andrew story. Oh, wow.
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It came out in 1993, and it was actually starred bunch of really famous people. Ted Wasp, Bryn Thayer, John Goetz, Veronica Cartwright. Oh, really? Carmen, ah Jill Schloen, who we've had ah show up on our school episode. Uh-huh. Brian McNamara. um And that actually premiered on May 4th of 1993 on NBC. So it was kind of, if you remember correctly, ah we used to have what these what these kids would call made-for-TV movie nights. It usually was Saturday night. I remember that, yeah. And you'd watch you'd go gather around the TV and watch it because you couldn't record it and you couldn't go back. and And this was like a huge thing. And you couldn't drink yet. So you stayed home and watched a movie like that.
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Yeah. And i I remember watching this movie and I remember being like, Mom, why did they name this storm after me? Why is it named after me? But Maddie, what about you? What is your ah biblical hurricane story? Oh, sure. Oh, iless I love telling the story. So first, I got to take you back.
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um If you actually if you listen to our our last Friday rewind, it was mine. And we did um the X-Files where i'm I'm sure I talked about my my former engagement when I was engaged to be married when I was a real idiot back back in the day.
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um So in 2016, it was early September, September 12th, I think. um My insane fucking crazy ex-fiancee, who was a fucking nightmare and I still hope gets eaten by a whale every single day.
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um he He was a trainer, everyone. so Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was, he was, he was. He was a dolphin trainer at the Shedd Aquarium. um Yeah, it was just actually a loser. Anyways, he left me, blah, blah, blah, bla blah.
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He was from Florida, right? And so in the midst of all of this, like he went back to Florida for a little bit before he came back to Chicago. And then eventually he moved to Florida where he lives now. um Thank God it's where he belongs in and like Orlando area, um or as I call it, the pit of hell. I'm so glad I never have to go back there. Anyways, so this happened right in early September. Yeah.
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And what happens on just a couple weeks later is a category five a hurricane named Hurricane Matthew, motherfucker.
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Hurricane Matthew pummels through Florida and destroys so much of it. It was fueled. It was fueled by my hatred and by my absolute, I can't even think of the word right now, but my pure hatred fueled, I swear to God, fueled that hurricane when it went through.
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um Now, look, I will say this. Hurricane Matthew was a devastating hurricane for Haiti. It was the worst disaster to happen there since the the earthquake, which was, I think, like in 2007, that the really bad earthquake was in Haiti. Yeah.
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Listen, sometimes our witch powers, we don't know how to yeah really control them. So we apologize the people of Haiti. I didn't mean for that to happen. but But we just wanted Florida. and a day And um and i i I listen, you know, I'm an evil bitch sometimes. And I'll tell you what.
Climate Change and Its Impacts
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The moment that I saw it was going to go straight for fucking Orlando, like it went straight through fucking Orlando. I laughed at that television when I saw that. Oh, yes, I did. Like an evil bitch.
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Because that's what I am. And don't fuck with me. Or I will send a hurricane to your fucking house. That's my story. That's awesome. I love that. I love it. Love it. Love it.
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I hate that that caused so much disaster for people. But I love the story behind It's a funny story. We we don' we have to tell it. You know what? Here at Fragge the 13th, we're nothing but bitches. That's the truth, bitch.
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So look, how that's why one of our segments is called What You Been Watching, bitch. Hello. Yeah, exactly. It's for a reason. We have to live up to the standard that we've set for each other. Yes, absolutely. Now, Andrew, um thinking about weather, right?
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It's sort of like impossible to think about weather anymore in like our day and age without thinking about climate change. Yeah, of course. You know, we've we've done an episode way back when on climate change, but that was years ago now. We we could actually do another one if we wanted to.
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Funny enough, ah that was the very first episode where we did a skit and it has stayed since. Oh, was it really? You know what? It was a good episode. i do remember that.
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um But we talked about climate change a lot more in depth. um But I mean, like like I said, you you you can't think about any weather anymore without thinking, wow, this is really different than it used to be.
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Right. And like, you know, thinking about, um you know, thinking about the weather here, for example, like when i when I moved here, a lot of people were like, oh, you're really going to enjoy that weather. It rains all the time. It does. this simple time ah Actually, no, it doesn't.
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That stuff kind of doesn't really happen anymore like that. In fact, Like when I first moved here last year, the summer here in Ireland was a scorcher. And there were days this year that were, you know, pretty scorching too. I mean, for Ireland standards now, you know, so keep that in mind. I mean, that's what I'm noticing as we like we get older. yeah We tend to remember childhood and kind of what we grew up with is everything's at extreme extremes. Extremes.
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ah There's not just like your, i you know, your like regular winter. It's going to be like, you know, in Chicago, we used to have just like, okay, winter is going to start in December. It'll probably be done by like mid February. You might get one little extra thing in March, but probably be done by February.
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And now it's like, oh, we don't have snow at Christmas. But then all of a sudden we have blizzards in January and that that fill up the streets and you can't leave your house. Yeah. Like and entirely. And, and, the and that's the thing. And, you know, it's like, I think that people are, people are, are confusing weather and climate all the time.
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And, um, they're, they're forgetting that weather is more just like weather is really about patterns, right? yeah That's what, that's what the weather is. And the climate is a something much larger. It's, it's like the long game.
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And, um you know, it's it's just it's impossible to experience weather and and to not experience climate change at at the same time because the climate is changing. It's just they're both changing it at like slightly different, you know, wavelengths, I guess. I guess you could say.
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And that's that's the thing about what's going on now is like, you know, look, if you're rich and you're white or if you're middle class and you're white at least, you're probably going through life, you know, only experiencing like climate change. Like, you know, I'm putting this in quotes right now.
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You're probably only experiencing it like when it's annoying for you, right? So like you're experiencing it when like there's a bad snowstorm and you got to go shovel the driveway or when you go on vacation and it's, you know, way, way, way hotter than you thought it was going to be or way, way, way colder.
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and Whereas like for other people around the world, they're experiencing the really catastrophic effects of climate change in their weather patterns right now. yeah and Every day.
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Every single day. And and it's it's it's causing such pain and such strife in the world, which it always has. I mean, we've talked about this before, but... You can track the way that like wars and battles and like terrorism happens based on like climate because it's climate is also about resources.
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Right. And so you're going to have people. I mean, look, no one gives a flying fuck about what they actually think they believe in. In the end, they just want to have enough to survive on. You know what i mean? And so they're going to bomb this person or they're going to kill that person or they're going to take this shit over because they want to get the shit. It's why like the fucking like Taliban has Afghanistan. They don't fucking they don't fucking care about anything.
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All they know is we got to have a fucking country to have. And so they chose that one, right? Yeah. And ah it's like we talked about in our last episode, power corrupts. Exactly. Precisely. and and it's And a lot of it is about the resources. But there's a lot of things that are already happening, of course, like like i've I've said kind of a thousand times now.
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um And there was a report back in 2012 that people didn't pay attention to. And it came out of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the IPCC.
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um And the the report was huge. It was 594 pages. Mind you, once again, this is years ago right? um And there is a 20-page summary that highlighted um some case studies of climate risks that they were predicting would probably happen within the next decade.
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And lo and behold, they all did. And there's a report from the AP that I pulled all this from, and it came out just last week on the 13th. And, oh, wow, it's really recent. It's it's very recent. And they were they were just kind of going over this. And they and they called that the report clairvoyant.
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And some of the things that they brought up were droughts causing famine in Africa. It's happening again right now in the Horn of Africa and in Madagascar. um Small islands being inundated by a combination of sea level rise, saltwater intrusion, and storms. This is happening all over the place right now, um especially in the in the Pacific.
00:29:12
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um Some other things in here. I forgot forgot where they went. But look, the the the the the the complexity of the report... And, and it's clairvoyant nature, what it predicted, it's all coming true now, which just sort of like leads you to think about like, what are we actually doing?
00:29:30
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We've had the information for 10, for 10 years, we had the information and many years before that we haven't done enough. And like, I don't know about you, but I don't think we're doing enough. and And it, you know, it can't be like me making sure I recycle that bottle. Yeah.
00:29:46
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You know what I'm like, that's not going to do it. It's got to be your metal straw is not going to go so far. Right. Exactly. And so like, look, I mean, it's, it's one of those things that, I mean, we could squawk on and on about this. There should be you know more horror movies created about this particular topic, but it's, it's pretty scary because we haven't done nearly enough.
00:30:03
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We're not doing it now. And how is this going to compound even further? You know, in the next 10 years, what the fuck are we going to see? Yeah, I mean, it's it's definitely scary. And I think that as humans, we don't have the mental capacity for thinking further than our lives, if that makes any sense. Sure.
00:30:26
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That we continue to just only be selfish for ourselves. And, you know, I'm not discounting myself or you. I'm just right I think that it's a human condition to look at what can I get out of this life for me and sometimes or all the time.
00:30:46
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nature and then impacting weather ah comes to suffer ah yeah because we're such selfish creatures. um Yeah, it's it's just it's it's mind boggling. I was actually at um when we were in Santorini, we were we were at a funny enough i learned this at a wine tour um but that they showed the evolution of the island of santorini and like how it came to be and because it's a volcanic island it's changed so much because it actually has a volcano on it yeah sure um that erupted at one point and destroyed half the island and then due to erosion and other weather patterns
00:31:29
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The way that the island has changed, it probably won't be there in like a hundred years. yeah You know what I mean? Totally. it's it's It's so strange the way that weather will take things back and the way that nature will take things back.
00:31:43
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Yeah. It's just fascinating. And I can only imagine the people that were living on Santorini at the time of the volcano, what they must have saw and observed and went through. And you know places like, ah what's that italian what ah the was just there, Venice. Oh, oh you're talking about Pompeii.
00:32:02
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Pompeii. Pompeii, yeah. Can you imagine? like You're living your life and all of a sudden the volcano goes off and you're just like... All right. I guess we're dead now. like You know, I'll tell you, we'll talk about that kind of stuff when we talk about the mist.
00:32:16
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Okay. All right. ah So do we want to go through the top five most deadly natural disasters? Start with the fucking deadliest, though. Oh, you want me to start with the deadliest and go back? I want you to give me the one where the most fucking humans died. Tell me about that one. All right. So number one, we're going right to number one. Fucking do it. This happened in 1931. The Yangtze River, ah it it flooded in China. This was in July and August of 1931. Triggered the most deadly natural disaster in world history.
00:32:49
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Okay. Um, the Yangtze river overtopped its banks in the spring snowmelt mingled with ah over 24 inches. So I don't know why they added 600 millimeters. That's funny. Um, I got my source from, um, live science, by the uh, of rain that fell during the month of July alone.
00:33:08
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um The flood in in inundated almost 70,000 square miles um and turned the Yangtze River into what looked like a giant lake or ocean. Contemporary government numbers put the number of dead people at around 2 million. um But other agencies, including the NOAA, say it may have been as many as 3.7. Just because this in
00:33:37
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It's kind of hard to trace back that kind of stuff because there's only so much that was being reported, especially out of China at the time in nineteen in the 1930s. um But some of the other big ah deadly natural disasters, the 2010 Haiti earthquake, the 1970 Beholla cyclone, the 1556, which I don't even know how they know that, um the Shanxi earthquake, and the 1887 Yellow river flood I don't know about you, but um I know I've talked about it getting older, um starting to face the reality of ah death.
00:34:13
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Weather ah frightens me much more than it did when I was ah younger. We've talked about it before, but we've had couple of kind of crazy tornado situations here in the Chicagoland area. Oh, those were nutty. They were nutty when those happened.
00:34:29
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And i can tell you, when I moved to Chicago, I was told there will never be a tornado in Chicago yeah because of the buildings and how things are built. It's just not, its it can't happen. Like, there's no way that it could happen. Motherfuckers lied. Motherfuckers lied. It's It's happening. um I definitely grew up in an area that was rot for thunderstorms and um hurricane or not. I'm sorry, not hurricane um tornado type weather. ah
00:35:00
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um I grew up with it. I don't know why I wasn't scared of it as a kid, especially with Twister coming out in like 1993 or whenever. Twister. Love Twister. um Which i I would argue might be a horror movie. So maybe we need to talk about it You know, thunderstorms are one of the things that I really miss here.
00:35:18
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we we we We don't have them. um We also don't have lightning here. And i i look, I can't tell you why. We just we just don't. It's but because we're an island, I guess. I don't i don't really get it. That's very strange. um But i I miss them. i You know, I i think that... um ah You know, what's what's great about storms is that there's something out of nothing, right?
00:35:40
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And so, like, all of a sudden, you're just, boom, you're faced with this thing that you have to deal with. You don't have a way out of it. Like, you have to deal with, you know, the crazy rain. can't run away from it.
00:35:53
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Yeah, you want the crazy rain hitting you or you have to like get inside a house or you have to, you know, deal with your own, you know, like you were intimating earlier. have to deal with your own sense of mortality as you face this thing. And I think that's why storms are so enthralling is they they do make you sort of face it.
00:36:09
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you know And I can tell you that we both live in walking cities. Yeah, sure. So we're also in them. Like, we're not in a car. All right, right. And, you know, like, I mean, we're we're lucky. We live in houses. But humans didn't always live in, you know, houses like the stuff that we live in right now, right?
00:36:26
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And so, you know, it's it's um it's a really interesting thing that just happens. And like I said, it just kind of happens out of nowhere. And that's just so mysterious and so fascinating and
Meteorologists and Media Portrayal
00:36:38
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scary. And, you know, there's, there's, it's no wonder that a lot of, you know, horror fans get into it because it's, it's almost like a little horror movie that nature's putting on for you right there.
00:36:47
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Yeah. So yeah for sure it's, it's an interesting thing and look, it's yeah, they're scary as fuck. And finally, i just want to ah before we close out our horror in real life, I want to talk about the real nightmare makers, the meteorologists. Oh, God. um Let me just tell you, ah most meteorologists that are on your news are not real meteorologists.
00:37:09
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ah They are reporters. ah So I hate those people. They scare the shit out of me. And They disappoint my life every week. They never report on things being good. It's only bad.
00:37:23
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so I guess what I'm trying to say is fuck meteorologists, not the real ones, just the news reporters. Oh my goodness. And with, with those wise words, we'll close out our horror in real life segment
Entertainment Recommendations
00:37:36
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and take a little break. When we come back, we'll do what you've been watching, bitch.
00:37:42
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Let's all go to the lobby, let's all go to the lobby, let's all go to the lobby to get ourselves a treat.
00:37:54
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And welcome everyone to what you been watching, bitch. What you been watching, you hurricane bitch. you You meteorologist bitch. You should have said that right there.
00:38:05
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Okay, so if near to the show, this is the segment that's really pretty simple. It's where Andrew and I tell you what we've been watching since the last time we told you what we were watching. So Andrew, going to go ahead and let you start.
00:38:17
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Go ahead. Yeah, so I have been watching some pretty good stuff. All of mine are recommends today, maybe with one small caveat. okay But the first one that I have been watching is I finally got back to Are You Afraid of the Dark? Oh, fun.
00:38:35
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The acclaimed series that most 90s kids will remember from SNCC. um they have been doing these i they're usually like four to six episode uh little mini seasons of a story kind of like in the are you afraid of the dark universe if you will um i think that they're all pretty good the first the first one ah that was about the circus was not like my favorite but everyone beyond that i think are pretty good and i think are like fun starter horror for, you know, maybe like you're, maybe like you're a 12, 13 year old.
00:39:10
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um Are you afraid of the dark? They just did a ghost Island, um which was about a girl who has, she is a twin who has recently lost her sister um to it's an undisclosed illness, but I can only imagine and some sort of cancer or something like that. But um her wish upon dying was that her sister would take their friends and go to this place called ghost Island. And, and,
00:39:34
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kind of be there it's kind of a resort island an isolated island and just like celebrate her life essentially ah what they don't understand is that the of course the the uh island is haunted i want to go there um Actually, i enjoyed the shit out of this. That sounds amazing.
00:39:55
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It's going to have some a little bit of dodgy acting just because it's a lot of kid acting and it's on Nickelodeon. um But overall, the story was really good. And honest honestly, they're the main quote-unquote baddie or the main like ghost yeah was actually kind of scary that's awesome so um maybe maybe reserve it for your 13 year old and not your 12 year old but um i really enjoyed it i think that if you are a fan of these um you know if you're a fan of snick and you're a fan of the old are you afraid of the dark definitely jump on board and watch these new iterations they're super easy to watch um and they're they're only like 40 minutes an episode so you can get it done in like
00:40:35
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An hour and a half. you know like it's It's not too much at your time. so Into it. ah My first one is the first episode of 101 Scariest Horror Movie Moments on Shudder.
00:40:48
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I'm definitely very interested to hear what you think about this because I wasn't going to give this a watch. So I'd be interested to hear what you had to think. You know, um it's funny. Two of these... Two of these things that I watched, I watched with somebody that I am no longer dating, um but was very recently. I'm just realizing that right now.
00:41:05
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Anyways, um I watched this with him, and... ah You know, look, i i I really appreciate when Shudder does these kind of things. um I think that they bring in, you know, the people that, you know, now, Andrew, you and I know these people. Yeah, it's it's so weird. Yeah, they're there and they're people that we respect. You know, i I think Mick Garris especially did a really great job with the with the stuff that he was talking about. um But, you know, Tony Todd's on there and and Alex Esso, who we just, you know, we just absolutely adore Alex and a bunch of other people.
00:41:36
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Um, she's in it. She is. Yeah. Now I have to watch it. yeah you have to watch it I mean, look, it's, I, I like these things from shutter because they're kind of mindless for me. I, I, I put them on often when I'm like doing work or when I'm like doing something else or when I'm like cleaning the house and like, you know, I don't have to like pay super deep attention to it if I'm being completely honest.
00:41:58
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Yeah, that makes sense. And there's, you know, there's some interesting stuff and you hear this and you hear that and there's some funny stuff that they talk about it. i I think it's great. i I think this is sometimes, you know, like I know that that shutter originals can be a little um can be they can be hit or miss.
00:42:15
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You know, we've talked about this before. um Sometimes there's some really good ones and sometimes we're like, oh, that's that's not so great. I think on this kind of stuff, it's always a hit and shutter does a really great job. and And i I love it when they they put more focus on this kind of stuff. So look, I've only watched the first episode. i thought it was good. um Andrew and I have screeners for the rest, but you know, as as they continue to come out.
00:42:37
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um But I think it's worth your time. Yeah, i you know what? um I think as we get closer and closer to this industry, because we have, like, let's be honest, yeah I just, it i I want to hear from so many more voices. And i'm glad to hear that um I'm glad to hear that Mick is on there. I'm glad to hear that Alex is on there because I feel like there was a time in these kind of like,
00:43:05
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horror documentary that it was the same people always talking. And I'm glad that there's a better diversity of people talking. um And I'm hoping that they will open that up to independent voices too, because I know not only us, but a ton of other horror aficionados that I totally respect um are doing stuff in the creative space, you know, spaces of podcasting and creating and short independent films Yeah, really hoping that they get a chance also to participate in those things. So good to hear that Shudder is including those people. very happy to hear that.
00:43:41
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Now, speaking of Shudder, I watched one of their newer originals. um It is ah Who Invited Them, um starring Ryan Hansen from Veronica Mars fame.
00:43:53
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um This is about a couple that has just bought a new house and they are having their housewarming party. And they spot a couple at the housewarming party that both of them think that the other one invited. Interesting.
00:44:11
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Like they don't know who they are, but neither of them really talk about it until like kind of the end of the party. um Little do they know that these this couple has ah another purpose within the story. I'm not going to spoil anything. yeah um I I've seen mixed opinions about this movie.
00:44:28
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I really liked it. It is a little bit of a slow burn, um but I kind of equated it to the style of The Invitation, um the Karen Kusama film, um to where you're kind of like, you're guessing what's going to happen until it happens, and you're not really sure like what the outcome is going to be.
00:44:47
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And I, for one, really like a movie that toys with my emotions that way and toys with like how I'm thinking. So I really appreciated the movie. I've seen some people think it's a little boring.
00:44:58
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I didn't I didn't think that. um Generally, when people think it's boring, i like it. Yeah. So if you like movies like that, if you'd like the invitation, um there was another shutter movie called scare me that happened a couple years ago that I really enjoyed it. It reminded me of that.
00:45:14
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If you like those kinds of movies, I think you'll enjoy this movie. um It was, wait, wait, wait, wait. Was it serious or was it kind of funny? Uh, it turns out to be serious, but there are definitely comedic moments. Got it. Okay. Um, because it it plays with, um, you know, like when you move into a new house and you get to know your neighbors and you're like, are they really like good people are they shitty people? Listen, I, like I, ask myself all the time. Trust me.
00:45:42
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So it it plays with that a little bit. And it's obviously a little awkward because they're at there're they're kind of meeting a new couple and they're not really sure what to think about them. Sure. um But it's never over the top funny. Like it's not a comedic movie, but there are comedic moments in that awkwardness of the exchanges between the characters.
00:46:00
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That makes sense to me. yeah So i I definitely would say watch Who Invited Them. It's literally, I think it's like 87 minutes. It's a very quick watch. So even even if you don't like it.
00:46:11
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My next one is Under the Banner of Heaven. And I watched this. I forget actually how I watched this, Andrew. I must have watched it on Now, I think. I'm pretty sure. I've seen this advertised. I watched it on Disney Plus for me. I watched it on Disney Plus.
00:46:27
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Um, under the banner of heaven is, ah taken from a book by John Krakauer. Um, and I, I quite liked John Krakauer. I've, I've never read the book.
00:46:38
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Um, but I think that John Krakauer's work is generally pretty good. Um, you'll know John Krakauer from like into the wild as well. Right. oh Um, yeah and the person who wrote the script for this was Dustin Lance black of bareback porn fame. If you remember correctly.
00:46:53
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um who is also the husband yes that's why he's famous well i mean look i've i'm we all watched it um he's also the husband of uh what's his face the diver tom daly what's his face anyways only the person that you obsess i know right who i'm actually completely in love with i've heard he's actually uh i've heard he's actually a dick believe it or not which i'm really sad about that i hope it's not true Anyways. um Okay. So this is a series. It's, I think it's nine episodes.
00:47:22
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um It is about ah a detective in Utah named Jeb Pyre, who has to investigate um this murder of a mother and her daughter, which, it which involves the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints, which is the perfect love it. um Andrew Garfield plays the main character And everyone else is just, you know, kind of whatever. um There is ah Gil gll Birmingham is is in it. And Gil Birmingham is um a Native American actor who's been in a lot of stuff before. And and I think he was really good.
00:47:58
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um Jason Bateman produced it and a bunch of other people, whatever. um it's it's that the show is is it's okay i was really hoping that i would like it better it just eventually got so slow um also one of the culkins is in i can't remember which one i can't rory so again rory culkin is in it um A lot of the acting kind of turns weird and some of the writing isn't, it's not that great if I'm being honest with you. um So, I mean, look, it was okay if, if, if I had to go back and do it again, like, you know, look, I, I finished it because I like to finish things as you know, but like, I just would have never started watching it if I'm being honest with you. So if you're thinking about under the banner of heaven, if you want my advice, save yourself the nine, the nine hours that that you're going to spend watching it and just watch something else.
00:48:46
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Yeah, but I mean, that's fair. I mean, we're only here to give our opinions on these things. Exactly. um Speaking of opinions, um I will have some about our and our my next one.
00:48:57
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um So this is ah the new Queen Latifah ludicrous-led movie my called End of the Road on Netflix. um This was kind of unceremoniously put on Netflix. a I have not seen literally a leak of marketing behind this. i I don't even know how I found it. I literally think it just turned on Netflix and it was on the ah banner ad or whatever.
00:49:23
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And I was like, oh, Queen Latifah in a thriller movie. Sure, I'm in. um I've loved Queen Latifah since living single, like forever. We are living single. That song will be in my head forever.
00:49:39
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Yeah. So I will always kind of turn whatever. out So this movie, it's Queen Latifah. It's ludicrous. They play a brother and sister who... That's funny right there. There you go um So ah basically what it is, is ah her she has recently lost her husband to cancer and um they can't afford their house in California anymore. So they are going to ah road trip to Texas where her mother lives and kind of just like reestablish life, like figure it out from there. Like got to got to have a restart. Got to have a renew.
00:50:13
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And as they're going across in their in their road trip with her, she has two kids and she's taking her brother, Ludacris, with her kids. That should be Ludacris.
00:50:23
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Woo! And um they basically stay at night in a you know motel you know pit stop along the way. And um they hear a scuffle in the room next door. And in the room next door, a man has been Yeah.
00:50:37
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ah shot Oh, no. And um what they do find out is that there is a bag of money in the ah cabinet, in the the cabinet. Take the money. And because of their situation, Ludacris decides to take it.
00:50:51
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And then there's a fallout from that action. And Bo Bridges is involved. And Bo Bridges. Oh, my goodness. Oh, boy. We were doing the math last night. Bo Bridges is 80 years old in this movie. Wow. Okay. Wow.
00:51:07
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um So listen, is this more of a lifetime-y type movie? Yes. It's not going to be for all your hardcore horror people.
00:51:17
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But for people that like movies like The Hand That Rocks the Cradle, Single White Female, like those type of... like movies where there's ah there's a threat, but it's not like over the top threat. Yeah, sure.
00:51:30
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You'll like it. i I really enjoyed it. And there are a couple of gore things that are so unexpected towards the end of this movie because the movie really hasn't been that gory up until the end. And then all of a sudden...
00:51:43
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I don't even want to spoil it because it's so ludicrous, if you will. um that the The gore is over the top at the end. And that's all I'll say. um Give this a watch. It's on Netflix. It's called End of the Road. Again, it's like 90 minutes. It's super fast. um It's not going to be for everybody. But for people that grew up with stories on Lifetime and those kind of movies, yeah I personally enjoyed it quite a bit.
00:52:07
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In a 90s kind of world, I'm glad I got my girls. Cool. I'm going to switch my last two around. I'm going to say Prey first, although we talked about it the last time. yeah, you watched it. I and I loved it. I thought Prey was fantastic.
00:52:24
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The only thing that I thought was, this was... really short. like it is It's like monstrously short. When it was done, I was like, wait a minute.
00:52:36
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Is that really it? is There's no more? and I don't say that as a criticism. I say it because I i i would have watched more. i thought i thought I would have watched a series of this. that i said I thought it was really well done. i thought, you know as you said before, the um the the Comanche language work was incredible.
00:52:52
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um I think that the the acting was really good and I thought it was a really great ah you know new installment in the Predator series. um And so i I thought it was great. We do we don't have to drone on about it because we've already talked about it. But if you haven't watched Prey yet, yeah just watch it. Truly, you are going to like this movie.
00:53:11
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Yeah, it's it's awesome. I think it's actually the best Predator that we've ever had. And I'm sorry for people that love the original. I don't think that you're right. I mean, the Predator was never really my thing. I i watched them and I you know i liked them okay, I guess, when I was young. But I was definitely more of an aliens person than than Predator.
00:53:28
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And ah this is really good. Watch it. Yeah. All right. My last one, and then we'll get to your last one and then we'll move on. My last one is the new installment of Pretty Little Liars. yeah. I need to watch this.
00:53:42
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um So this is not your, this is not, I guess I should say our because it came out in our lifetime. I'm not. our original pretty little liars that was like i think a cw show i think maybe um but this is a new um reimagining of pretty little liars called pretty little liars original sin is on hbo max for everyone out there um this is a more horror focused um pretty little liars um It's obviously going to involve some some bitchy little teenage women, unfortunately, but that's just like that's what you get with these shows. like sure There's always over-the-top mean girls, if you will.
00:54:22
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um But this focuses on a quattro of girls who ah basically are living through ah different circumstances. they all One is pregnant. One is dealing with a relationship. One is dealing with kind of like a...
00:54:38
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a predator situation with her boss. Like there's all these different storylines, but each girl kind of has like their own lane, but they all come together because there is a mystery about what their mothers did in high school. And now someone is enacting revenge because of what the mothers did on their children.
00:54:56
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um There's definitely a lot of homages to it. There's a lot of homages to um kind of like different ah horror things within the kind of show.
00:55:07
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um I will say i started a little lukewarm on this on on the story because it felt a little contrived and a little overacted um a la Riverdale. Yeah, sure.
00:55:19
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um But once I settled into the style of the show, so I would say around like episode three. I was like completely enthralled and I completely watched the entire thing. i mean, this is someone this is coming from somebody that watched shows like Buffy, that watched shows like Roswell growing up.
00:55:35
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So it it it hit that little tingle on the bottom of my spine that said like, you're going to like this. And so I just kept with it. And overall, I really did like the story.
00:55:46
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i think the twist is ah is ah maybe a little cheap, but and um overall, I still really enjoyed the series. So if you're looking for something that is...
00:55:58
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bubblegum horror um a la like the scream series that came out um a number of years ago yeah sure i think i i think you'll like it so that is pretty little liars original sin doesn't sound depressing enough for me andrew i'll pass on it um so uh the final thing that i have is i finally saw nope Okay. ah I haven't seen it yet.
00:56:24
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What a... I mean, look, Andrew, it's not even possible to give you a spoiler, if I'm being honest with you. like it's And it's not possible because I don't think there's anybody except Jordan Peele... That knows what's going on....who can actually tell you what this movie is about.
00:56:41
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And i'm i am I'm really not joking. um I saw this on a date with the person that I'm no longer dating anymore... um at a theater. um And it's it's not even the good theater in Dublin. It's the it's the gross theater where people are loud.
00:56:55
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Anyways, um and it oh, it's a gross theater, Andrew. You would not like it there. Anyways, I saw Nope. And It's long. It's a very long movie.
00:57:06
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It is not a short movie. I am a Jordan. No, I'm a Jordan Peele fan. You know, I loved Get Out. Of course, it's one of the best things I've i've actually ever seen. I think I loved I loved us. You know, I'm i'm all over Jordan Peele.
00:57:19
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um But this movie, it's it's really big. um you know it's it's a it's It's very well done. He's done a great job with it. The actors are all great at what they're doing.
00:57:31
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There's incredible effects there's this there's that thing and there's this thing and there's that thing and there's this thing and there's that thing and there's that thing and there's that thing and there's that thing and there's that thing. I think you see what I'm trying to say here, right? There are, there's a thousand things to look at in this movie and a thousand things to think about. and And I walked out and you know, the, the guy that, that I was dating, was, he's a horror fan. And so we were, you know, we, we had fun talking about it, but you know, whatever, i can't remember what he said exactly, but whatever he thought it was about, I was like, no, it's not.
00:58:00
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and and that's not what you got yeah yeah And in my head, I was like, don't like it finished. And I was like, I don't know what the fuck this was about. And that bothers me. That really bothers me that I don't know what it's about.
00:58:15
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And i just I just can't put my finger on it. and maybe I don't know. Maybe that's the idea. Maybe that is maybe that's the idea right there. but Maybe that's what it's about. But other than that...
00:58:27
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I don't know. You know, look, i I don't really want to see it again, if I'm being honest with you. um I know that's fair. I'm interested to hear more conjecture. But in general, like it's it's not my favorite movie of his. That's that's for sure.
00:58:41
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um And the the narrative is just, oof, my lord, all over the place. I feel like it's about five seconds from hitting like a major streaming service. So I, I would think I'm just, I think I'm just going to wait and not pay for it. and I will say i I, I did want to see it in a theater because I knew it was going to be big. I wanted to see it on a big screen. So, you know, yeah know it's totally fair, um but you you can wait to see it at home. You'll be fine.
00:59:05
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Yeah. um I'll, I'll reserve my criticism, but I appreciate you letting me know that it's crazy. Yeah, and and yeah it is that for sure. All right. Well, that was what you've been watching, bitch. Maddie brought us 101 Scariest Moments on Shudder under the banner of heaven.
00:59:23
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Nope. And once again, one of the best movies of the year, Prey. And Andrew brought us Are You Afraid of the Dark Ghost Island on Nick at Night? Or Nickelodeon? Whatever it's called.
00:59:34
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um Who Invited Them on Shudder? End of the Road on Netflix. and Pretty Little Liars Original Sin on HBO Max. So folks, take a little break. Unless you're driving, keep driving. Don't take a break if you're driving.
00:59:48
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And we'll be right back with our first film, The Fog. John Carpenter's The Fog.
Review of 'The Fog'
01:00:01
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This is KAB Antonio Bay. Stevie Wayne here. and let me be the first to wish Antonio Bay a happy birthday. We're 100 years old today.
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And keep a watch out for that fog bank heading in from the east. 100 years ago, between midnight and one, something unknown came out of the fog. Now it has returned.
01:00:29
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years ago, between midnight and one, something unnatural came out of the fog. Now it has returned.
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hundred years ago, between midnight and one, something evil came out of the fog. Now it has returned. Who's there?
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The fog. Antonio Bay has a curse on it. We're all cursed. Is it getting foggy in here is it just me? Maddie, tell us all about the fog.
01:01:11
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Lock your doors. Bolt your windows. There's something in the fog. Strange things begin to occur as a tiny California coastal town prepares to commemorate its centenary or its 100th anniversary.
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Inanimate objects spring eerily to life. Reverend Malone stumbles upon a dark secret about the town's founding. Radio announcer Stevie witnesses a mystical fire. And hitchhiker Elizabeth discovers the mutilated corpse of a fisherman.
01:01:39
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Then, a mysterious, iridescent fog descends upon the village. And more people start to die. The Fog was directed by John Carpenter, written by John Carpenter and Deborah Hill, produced and distributed by Avco Embassy Pictures.
01:01:56
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Stevie played by Adrienne Barbeau. Elizabeth played by Jamie Lee Curtis. Kathy played by Janet Leigh. What a cast already. Mr. Mockin played by John Houseman. Nick played by Tom Atkins.
01:02:07
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Dick by James Canning. Dan by Charles Cyphers. Sandy by Nancy Keyes. ah Father Malone by Hal Holbrook. What ah what a role for him. Bennett played by John Carpenter and Mrs. Corbett's played by Regina Waldron.
01:02:22
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ah The fog is rated R. It is 89 minutes long. Thank you. ah Made in the USA in and around Los Angeles, specifically around the Point Reyes lighthouse. ah Released January 31st, 1980. made for just million dollars.
01:02:35
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was made for just a million dollars And it grossed 21 and a half way back then. So it was sort of a low budget movie when you think about it.
01:02:46
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But it it made that money back. As usual, John Carpenter made magic. um This is not our first watch, Andrew. um So now tell me about ah about The Fog.
01:02:58
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So I do want to go back to your description where it says Elizabeth discovers a mutilated corpse, where I thought you were going to say Elizabeth discovers Tom Atkins body.
01:03:10
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Because she falls right from hitchhiking into his car into his bed within 12 minutes. See twelve minutes see oh yeah um No. Okay. So the fog, um i will say that the fog was one that I had to come into later in life. Yeah. um It was not one of the ones of John Carpenter's that I saw early. I definitely saw the thing and I definitely saw Halloween very early on and sure like horror repertoire. But for some reason, the fog got missed by me. So I only share a relationship with the fog probably going back about 15 years, I would say. okay sure. um and
01:03:49
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ah But i I really do like it. i love that we see essences of what John Carpenter will do in The Fog and kind of homages what he's he's already done before The Fog.
01:04:03
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um i will especially call out the score. I think that the score of the movie is fantastic. it's ah It's essential listening yeah um in my book. And I really do think that's where John Carpenter, not only as a director, but also succeeds as a composer, because I just think so so so much of his music resonates with horror fans. Oh, big time.
01:04:25
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Just you you you hear it and you're like, ah that I don't I don't know. it it You're immediately in season. He has a genius. mean, how how can you hear it? bump but bump bu bum bump bump bu but and And not immediately know what it's from and immediately remember the movie because you just, yeah you can't get away from it.
01:04:43
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um So my highlights of the movie, I think that it's very interesting that once again, we have Tom Atkins as a sex symbol two times in a row on our show because we just watched ah the the creep like the creeps of last episode.
01:04:57
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um um We open with an Edgar Allan Poe quote that says, is all that we see or seem but a dream within a dream, which I thought was very interesting to open the film with.
01:05:09
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um We once, as as you stated, we are celebrating the centennial of of what is Antonio Bay? Antonio Bay. um I love Adrienne Barbeau. And in our trivia, it says that has this is actually her first film that she's ever done. She did a lot of TV before this, but this was actually her first film. i didn't realize that, I guess. um We see once again, John Carpenter and Deborah Hill get back together from from Halloween, which is great to see. You know, you're going to get something quality um after that. fuck yeah.
01:05:41
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I think what what really succeeds for me in this film, and and we'll continue to talk about this in our next film too, is that just the character dynamic of this kind of small town is done so well.
01:05:57
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You feel like you've lived here. You know mean? I agree. You know these people. You like you know these people like you know like uh, you know, like the, the radio person, that's Delilah, you know what i mean? For us, like, sure you know, like, you know, um, and for people that don't know Delilah, you know what you're missing. I fell asleep to Delilah many a times in my youth. Um, but, um,
01:06:22
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I don't know. i think that that's where this really succeeds. I do think that there are some things that I'm still unsure of why. I'm just like put a big question mark on. and And most of it is around the the first kind of um quote unquote visit from like the the specters.
01:06:38
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yeah And I don't really understand. that to Just to pause there for a moment. The specters are incredible. Yeah, yeah. Well, so the initial visit from them is they kind of just cause havoc in the town. Like they make people's ah car alarms go off and they they make the telephones ring. and like yeah there's There's even a thing there's even a ah a scene where they're at a gas station and they jack up a car.
01:07:09
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They pour gasoline all over the gas station, which I'm not... I'm not going to say that I'm sure on this, but I want to say that's the same gas station as Halloween 3 because it looks identical. Could be. Sure.
01:07:22
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But nothing ever happens with any of this. like It's almost like, I don't know if it's supposed to be meant as like a warning. or like I was expecting, like hey, we're pouring gasoline over this all over this stuff. Now we're going to set it on fire. Yeah, But they never do.
01:07:37
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um so I think that that's meant to be like a warning that they're coming. And that that first night, they only have an hour. I think that it goes from like 12 to mid, or I'm sorry, 12 to one o'clock. um And then everything's kind of done.
01:07:50
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But overall, i I still really enjoy this movie. I think it's actually one of John Carpenter's more original stories. Yeah. um And I do like the idea of like a town that's cursed because of its founders that they did something. I think that's like really, really cool and really like spooky.
01:08:09
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You know, we love it. We love a lore story. Like that's like our jam. Like we like that local stuff. So this like plugs right into that. that And then when you learn, it's funny when i was thinking about this movie um going into it, I thought that they were pirates.
01:08:24
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like That's just like in my brain that they were pirates um because they have like so they have like sabers and whatnot. But no, it's actually a village of lepers. Not pirates. yeah but not Not criminals. way but But a secret third thing.
01:08:38
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Yeah. um So, yeah, I enjoy this movie. um I have some other comments that we can get into. um But, Matty, what are your initial thoughts on The Falk? I mean, yeah, i I agree. You know, look, I i think that you're you we're we probably hard pressed to find people...
01:08:55
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um who like horror that are not fans of the fog. And if you're not a fan, I do i really wouldn't understand why. um it's it's it is It's just a classic of ah the genre.
01:09:08
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I think that it it further just cemented John Carpenter exactly where we know he belongs, which as which is a a master of the genre, truly. It's interesting to look back and see, because I'm i'm just looking like looking at the Wikipedia page right now, for example,
01:09:24
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um that the that the critical response was was not great when it came out. It wasn't awful, but it certainly wasn't great either. um But I mean, isn't that sort of how it happens with these kind of things, right? like Yeah, same thing as The Thing, though. The Thing came out and everybody hated it and now it's plotted as like the best horror movie of all time. Yeah, I mean, like and how can you not like The Thing? like The Thing has just, you know, a book where that that's another movie for another time, um which also, you know what? The Thing would have maybe worked for for this episode, too, now that I think about it.
01:09:53
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um Anyways, you know, look, I think it's great. it it It succeeds at creating atmosphere that few other directors are able to make happen. And, you know, part of that is just naturally because the movie is called the fucking fog, right? I mean, like, if you don't have good fog, you're you're probably failing right from the beginning.
01:10:13
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um But we do. And and ah look, it's it's got a cast that would you know just like clean anyone else up, for God's sake. I mean, not only is there Jamie Lee, but there's also Janet Lee. you yeah There's Adrian Barbeau. There's Tom Atkins. there's There's Hal Holbrook. I mean, just on down the line, it's incredible.
01:10:30
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And you know like we've already discussed, you've got Debra Hill in there again writing as well, um you know just just right off the back. of one of the most incredible horror films that at that time had ever been made thinking about Halloween.
01:10:42
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Right. um You know, there's something interesting, um Andrew, and not to Andrew, you, you have a comment that I want to bring up right away. It's, it's on our worksheet. You said that this one feels older than Halloween.
01:10:56
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Yeah. Yeah. Tell me about that. Cause I, I, I agree with you. Tell me, tell me about that. Yeah, i I just feel like in the way that it's filmed, and maybe because it is low budget, um we know now that it's only a million dollars, but in learning in the ah commentary that they filmed it in Panavision, so it feels... It's low budget, but it feels not low budget. It feels big. To me, I don't know.
01:11:19
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It... i don't know like it it the way that it was, maybe it's the low budget, or maybe it's the way that it's filmed, or maybe that it has a little bit more supernatural stuff behind it. It just felt older than Halloween. And I thought it actually came out before Halloween, but in fact, it did come out a couple years later after Halloween. Couple years after, we yeah, two years after. um So yeah, it just like the style of it,
01:11:41
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felt older. It felt like a 70s movie to me. It didn't feel like an 80s movie. that I don't know. What were your thoughts on that? I i agree with you. i you know i i came to the fog ah came to the fog later too, kind of like you, right?
01:11:57
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um You know, when when I was much younger, my favorite horror films were just like, you know, the Exorcist and Halloween, basically, which I just watched on a rotation because we didn't have the Internet back then, kids. um So that's just all that I had, you know.
01:12:11
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And then I do remember like getting like a a copy of the thing that was um that was like a like ripped from a from like a television. You know what mean? Yeah. Yeah. Not ripped, recorded. God, can't even think of the words anymore.
01:12:23
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um But you know what we had that. I didn't come to the fog until much, much later and when when streaming was finally a thing. And i I just loved it. And um so, yeah, i I think in the same way that that you know for you, we we didn't have the the chronological benefit of of feeling when this came out. Obviously, we weren't and but even alive yet.
01:12:45
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Yeah, but it does. It does feel that way. It feels like it came out before Halloween. And it's not that it it's less realized. I mean, there's nothing that John Carpenter does that isn't realized.
01:12:57
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Right. I mean, all of his films are replete is the word that I would use. I love that word. um They are replete and they are finished. And, you know, in the same way that I think Halloween was replete. And ah honestly, there never needed to be another sequel after that. It would have been fine after part one.
01:13:13
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Yeah. In the same way that the thing is incredibly replete. I mean, my God, talk about ah a completely realized vision. of true horror, that is a movie that does it.
01:13:24
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And then you've got the fog, which does it too. um from From the set to the actors, to to the way that things sound, the way that things look, to the way that things feel, or maybe even smell sometimes.
01:13:35
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um you know you you You feel like you're at this at this town. You feel like you're in Antonio Bay. You feel like there iss so much that you can almost smell it. And you can you can almost like really feel the fog around you.
01:13:47
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And that's something that not everyone can do. um And I don't know how many modern, I shouldn't say modern, contemporary directors are are really capable of the things that John Carpenter was capable of back then. You know, in in this case, what, how long ago was this? 1980 is how many years ago, Andrew? 42? Yeah, yeah.
01:14:06
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God, 42 years ago. That's lot.
01:14:09
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and And with such a low budget, too. i mean A million dollars? That's nothing. Yeah. um you That would be unheard of today. I spent and i spent a million dollars today. you understand? Wow. And that was just on ordering food. ah got it. Much more rich than I thought.
01:14:23
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Well, listen. um So I do want to call out a couple of different people in this movie. um I think that my favorite dynamic is between Sandy and Kathy, the ah the the lead kind of head councilwoman and her assistant. i Janet Leigh.
01:14:41
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I think that they're hilarious together. i think they are. when When Janet Leigh is like, only people ah only people like you make Yes Ma'am sound like Screw You. And she just says, Yes Ma'am. I love that.
01:14:53
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I just think that their dynamic is really good. And honestly, it's been a long time since I watched The Fog, so I did not remember who dies in it. And I was like, please don't kill either of them. like I need them to live it. um I do think i want to call out um um Father Malone. I think that he plays like a very interesting character being a alcoholic priest. so Sounds like of them that I know, quite frankly. Well, and it's just interesting because it's it's played off in the way that the whole town knows that he's like kind of like off his rocker, if you will.
01:15:26
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um But they kind of just like put up with it, which is a very interesting dynamic if you think of Catholicism and and the time um and just like what was going on and what we know now.
01:15:37
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um I think the dynamic between Elizabeth and i Nick is insane. Yeah. that's Big time. Yeah. She literally is a hitchhiker that gets picked up and then literally is in his bed 15 minutes later. And then 15 minutes later after that, she's on like all his escapades with what a life, what a life. um I do love that. We do get the classic Jamie Lee Curtis scream in this because she just has, she has that scream that you just like,
01:16:06
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You know it's her. You know what I mean? like it it's what It's what she gets paid for. um I did find it interesting that in the original cut of the movie, that scene with the cadaver was not there, ah which i do which I do think is one of the weirder scenes where the cadaver gets up and walks across this yeah walks across the room and then draws a three on the floor um for basically saying like three more people need to die to like absolve the curse sure or whatever. Sure, sure.
01:16:34
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um but they don't ever like the coroner and nick were both out in the hallway and they come in and neither of them make a really big deal that a corpse just walked across the room um i andrew i just had a corpse walk across the room right now oh fun um did it have a scalpel in its hand and did it write anything on the floor no no unfortunately no My favorite thing between Elizabeth and Nick is when she gets in his his vehicle and her the first thing she says is, can I ask you something? And he's like, yeah, sure. And she's like, are you weird?
01:17:10
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And I was like, yeah, I guess hitchhiking in the 80s, I guess, or I guess at that time would be in the late 70s was something that's that's weird. But I think that it's funny that he basically says like,
01:17:22
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oh yeah, I'm weird. And you're and ah then she says, oh, you're my 13th ride. then he says, oh, that's pretty unlucky. And then literally his windows burst open.
01:17:33
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It's absolutely insane. um But yeah, I think that um all the special effects are done really well in this. I think that we get just enough of the lepers.
01:17:44
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um And I only say lepers because that's how they describe them in the movie. um But I think that they do them such good justice with leaving them in shadow just enough to where you can't see too much, but you see just enough to make it super spooky. And that one with the red glowing eyes when it finally happens.
01:18:04
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Ooh, that is a spooky, spooky bits. Um, the one complaint I have is that I think they did Mrs. Cobrit's the babysitter wrong. I don't know why she had to be one of the ones that died. i felt really bad for her because all she was trying to do was protect, uh, the little boy,
01:18:20
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um And I think that they just really did her dirty. And so justice for Mrs. Corbett's, you know, as as we've been doing with with other films and on previous episodes, i've I've really enjoyed sort of highlighting some of the reviews on Letterboxd, of which I am a pro member. When you going to sponsor us Letterboxd?
01:18:36
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um Anywho, ah there there's a couple good ones here that I'll tell you. There's one from Jamel Bowie. I believe that's the last name Bowie. um And they gave it three and a half stars. And they said, sensing a theme with these early carpenters.
01:18:52
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Basically, and there is no way a place and its people can escape the transgressions of the past, whether institutional violence, like assault on Precinct 13, trauma, Halloween, or an outright crime, the fog.
01:19:08
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Isn't that interesting to think about? Yeah. Yeah. There's another one like um from Karsten four stars who says pretty much exactly what you'd expect out of a John Carpenter movie about fog. I thought that was funny. I enjoyed that one.
01:19:21
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um And oh, here's a good one um from Patrick. will ah Patrick Willems three stars and says how to make this movie great. Make the setup of the town half as long and the ghost pirate invasion and twice as long. Oh, see pirates again. yeah I mean, look, they look like pirates. I think if if that's if that's one criticism that we can give it, i mean, they do look kind of piratey.
01:19:43
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yeah And I mean, look, if if we see sailors ghosts coming out of the sea, everyone's going to think it's probably a pirate in one way or another, right? um There were a few people that we know um off of off of ye olde Twitter who who had a couple of things to say about it. Calvin Dyson is a big James Bond fan. he said You should follow him on Twitter. kelvin's a ke he's He's a nice kid. um Three and a half stars. Calvin says, really solid cast brilliantly dark cinematography super eerie vibe carry this particularly when the story perhaps meanders in places. It doesn't quite coalesce as satisfyingly as you might hope.
01:20:17
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Music is phenomenal though. Might well be my favorite John Carpenter score. Yeah, I would agree. That's a really big thing to say, just considering, you know, the sort of like the the classic nature of all the sounds that you hear from John Carpenter.
01:20:31
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um So some interesting stuff there. ah Another little factoid that I love about this movie is ah So John Carpenter, it's not credited, but he plays a character named Bennett Tramer.
01:20:43
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You know what? I put in my notes, was that JC? I literally have that my notes. So, so um I mean, if you if if Tramer sounds familiar from Halloween, it should. Because ah Ben Tramer is Laurie Strode's potential love interest that they talk about in um in Halloween. So it's kind of fun to see you know a little bit of...
01:21:03
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a little bit of the John Carpenter universe, make it over into his other films as well. It was a really interesting factoid about, i guess, Adrian Barbeau had to do her whole finale scene in reverse without blinking based on how they had to film the fog rolling in.
01:21:20
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Yeah, so I read in an interview that she did was because of the way that they produced like the actual non-CGI fog, that they they couldn't roll it in They could only suck it out. Oh my God, it's crazy.
01:21:34
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they had to do it in reverse. So that whole scene where she's on top of the lighthouse was all done in reverse. Wow. And he told her, you can't blink because that'll look weird in reverse. Wow. So she had to do that without blinking, which I thought was just insane. God, how do you do that?
01:21:52
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One other quote that just like really struck me and is kind of like, I think like the coalescence of the entire movie is when Adrienne Barbeau is noticing the fog and she knows that there's something in the fog and what's happening with the town.
01:22:10
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And she says into her microphone to the ships that can hear me look into the darkness, look and look for the fog. And I was like, that's the movie right there. Like in, in, it in an essence, that's the movie.
01:22:24
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um But yeah, I just, ah overall, I had so much fun revisiting this movie had been a while since I see, I have seen it. I think we're always going to have some weird nostalgia for this kind of,
01:22:37
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I'd say 1975 to 1985, like style of movie, especially with John Carpenter. um so we're probably, we're probably a little um nostalgic for it. So that might be reflected in our, in our scores.
01:22:53
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um But overall, I just think it's a solid movie with an A-list cast. I mean, when, are when did, did we ever get any movie with Janet Leigh and, and, um and her daughter? Yeah.
01:23:05
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together i don't even know i don't think so um so just that in and of itself i mean you're gonna see john carpenter um reuse these people and i just i always appreciate a director i think we're seeing it in modern day with some of our other directors that like to use the same people in their movies it it just shows like a testament to like committing to actors and committing to different people that I don't think that we see too often.
01:23:35
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um We're starting to see a little bit of a renaissance with it, um with like Blumhouse using like, you know, the Conjuring people in a lot of different things and and whatnot. But it just, it's it's a weird um outset of the old ah studio system.
01:23:50
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um that we don't really see a lot today, which like going back, this isn't even studio system time, but John Carpenter, I think, just knew and had trust in these people that he could reuse again and again in in different roles. And I just, it makes me so happy to watch Falk. Yeah.
01:24:08
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So tell me tell me what you gave it. So I gave The Fog, I'm going to give it a five, um only because when I think of other movies in John ah Carpenter's caliber, I would rate them higher than this. yeah And maybe we'll get to those at some point and in our series.
01:24:24
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in our ah repertoire. But um overall, I said, ah ah love the atmosphere of this sleepy small town, but I feel like I remembered more people dying, which i there's only six people that die. And I was like, I thought there was some more, but hu um it feels like we said, it feels somehow older than Halloween. And we kind of discussed that, but John Carpenter honestly still delivers with a killer score and a really fun story. So I gave it a five. Love that. It gave it five and a half.
01:24:51
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And I basically already said it, but it's it's a classic that just further cements Carpenter as a master of the
Exploration of 'The Mist'
01:24:57
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genre. I love this movie. um Also, Andrew, by the way, Janet Leigh and Jamie Lee were in H2O together.
01:25:03
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That's the other movie. oh Oh, yeah. I just remembered that. Maybe we'll get to that movie. um um and And if you're new to the show, sorry, we should have mentioned this up front, but we judge on a seven stripe scale. So kind of go back and figure that out. And it's based on the ah like seven stripes of that gay old rainbow that we love. So that does it for The Fog. We will take our quick break and be right back with The Mist.
01:25:34
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Whoa. Mom, Dad, you gotta come see. You bought this old bash. just gotta come. Come on. Whoa. Having spoken, the doomsayer departs. Come on.
01:25:46
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Why don't get Billy dressed? I'll take him into town him. Hit the store before it gets all bought out. How do you folks hold up in the store? Big insurance, Dane. Sorry to hear that.
01:26:14
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Something in the mist! Shut the doors! Shut the doors!
01:26:20
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The only way we're going to help ourselves is to seek rescue. Tie this around your waist. Or four. Let us know you got at least 300 feet. There's nothing out there. Nothing in the mist. What if you're wrong?
01:26:50
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It is time to take sides. Read the good book. It calls for blood. Guys, I hear something. those bugs i like
01:27:17
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are you guys messing with up there? thought that there were other dimensions. They wanted to try and make a window. Well, maybe your window turned out to be a door.
01:27:30
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It's, um not crying, you but I do feel a little misty right now. Andrew, tell us about the mist. Belief divides them, mystery surrounds them, but fear changes everything.
01:27:45
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After a violent storm, a dense cloud of mist envelops a small main town, trapping artist David Drayton and his five-year-old son in a local grocery store with many other people.
01:27:56
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They soon discover that the mist conceals deadly horrors that threaten their lives, and worse, their sanity. Directed and written by Frank Darabont based on the Stephen King novella,
01:28:08
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ah The production company was Dimension Films and MGM. David is played by Thomas Jane. Mrs. Carmendy is played by Marsha Gay Harden. Amanda is played by Lori Holden. Brent is played by Andre Brower.
01:28:20
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Ollie is played by Toby Jones. Jim is played by William Sadler. Dan is played by Jeffrey DeMunn. Irene is played by Francis Sterhagen. Billy is played by Nathan Gamble.
01:28:30
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Private Jessup is played by Sam Witwer. And Woman at Home with Kids. Yes, that's her... Given title in the credits is played by Melissa McBride.
01:28:42
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Rated R. This comes in at 126 minutes. We'll talk about that in in just a moment. ah Made in the USA in and around Shreveport, Louisiana. ah Was released on November 21st of 2007. budget of million with a gross of about to be exact.
01:29:01
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Maddie, tell me about your experience going through Mist. So i I definitely saw The Mist before, ah but I don't really remember when. It would have maybe even been back then, right? Yeah.
01:29:15
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And i I wasn't thinking very deeply about it then, and I i was much younger then, of course, when it was 2007. Yeah.
01:29:23
Speaker
I watched The Mist this weekend. And like, i so I just want to preface this by saying I'm in a bit of an emotional place right now. And if you follow me on Twitter, you probably know why. But I've been through a little thing and I've just, my brain is kind of all over the place.
01:29:38
Speaker
And so I may be just like a little bit more like predisposed to darkness right now, if you will. um But I will tell you this. I think that this movie is brilliant.
01:29:48
Speaker
And I think that this movie is about, um i actually put it on Twitter today. And what did I say it was about? I said that this movie is, I'm going to find it right now, Andrew, give me a second. The Mist is about the utter pointlessness of life.
01:30:03
Speaker
the trappings of finitude and our inability to exist as anything but beasts in this grand cosmic nightmare of living.
01:30:14
Speaker
That is what this movie is about. In my opinion. Wow. Is it it hit me really hard. And, um, like, look here, here's the basic setup, right?
01:30:25
Speaker
You got this town. It's in, you know, classic Stephen King country. It's, you know, it's by Castle Rock. What is the name of the, what is the name of the town? I forget. I don't have it written down actually. It doesn't matter. Whatever. It's a town. It's a town by Castle Rock. Like most of the stories are right.
01:30:43
Speaker
um So there's this, this town and there's this little family and there's a storm that, that happens on, you know, at their lake house or at their house. And, you know, shit happens. And when they go outside the next morning, they look at all the damage and everything. And oops, there's a, huh, there's a mist coming in off the mountain and down into the lake.
01:31:02
Speaker
And they've never seen this happen before. And of course, all of a sudden, strange things start to happen. um There was a big storm. So the power went out and, you know, people's, this happened, that happened, the phones are down.
01:31:13
Speaker
So they have to go to the shop to go get groceries and, you know, supplies because all the food is going bad and all of this kind of thing. While they're at the shop, um a man who also lives there runs into the store because the mist is coming their way and he has blood on his face.
01:31:29
Speaker
And he says that the mist came around somebody that he was with and then took the person away. And so he runs into the store and he gets them to close the doors. And, you know, this chaos ensues from that point out from from the movie.
01:31:44
Speaker
um it's it's ah It's a film that is about creatures, right? Because what happens is, um and it's almost ancillary, to be honest with you, like the logic behind how these creatures happen to appear on Earth.
01:32:01
Speaker
But forgive me if I'm wrong here, Andrew. what What happens is that like the the military scientists at the Arrowhead Project accidentally open a portal to another world. Am I correct here? Yep. And then these these crazy fucking creatures. Cthulhu creatures. Yeah. like that that That's a good way to to to put it. it Total Cthulhu, total Lovecraft. like These creatures are fucked up and they are they are scary. They appear and they they they wreak havoc and they cause damage and they kill everybody basically.
01:32:30
Speaker
um So, you know, that that happens and and that's a big part of the movie, but it's almost ancillary. It's almost like it didn't even, it could have been anything. It could have been gigantic blocks. It could have been ah fucking huge clown and and other smaller clowns. It it doesn't really matter.
01:32:47
Speaker
the The point is is that these people are trapped and they have to deal with the fact that humans are fucked up. They're very, very fucked up. People are the real horror. They are the real horror. And we are only hanging on in society by a thread, by a tiny, thin thread that is fraying every single day.
01:33:09
Speaker
And you better hope that something like this doesn't happen because if it does, it's you're going to see just how awful human beings really are. Just what creatures we really are. Just what beasts we are.
01:33:22
Speaker
And we find this throughout most of of of what of what occurs within this microcosm of a shop. And you find society being built and you've got Marsha Gay Harden as this like profit kind of person.
01:33:36
Speaker
And mean this is like one of her best performances in my opinion. She's she's fantastic. and And that's just the thing. I think everyone in this film does a really great job. um And it deals with things that you don't expect it to deal with.
01:33:50
Speaker
And... Look, what what what happens basically is if you leave the shop, you're probably going to get killed, right? Because the creatures are huge and they're bad as fuck and they they're going to get you.
01:34:01
Speaker
And so that's just how it is. And um eventually some people get out, right? And let's just cut to the chase, Andrew. Let's just cut to the fucking chase. They eventually get out and they leave the shop behind after a whole lot of shit that we can go into in a moment.
01:34:16
Speaker
Yeah. But it ends up being a truck with a dad, his wife, and his kid. No, not his wife. she He just met her. Not his wife, pardon me. Not not his wife. um but But his kid is certainly there.
01:34:27
Speaker
And in the backseat are you know two older people that are really great in the film. we like when she When she throws that can of peas at Mrs. Carmody, it's my favorite. It's amazing. So you know they're in the car, and they're out of gas. And the creatures are all around them. And they know there's nothing left for them.
01:34:45
Speaker
and so Well, it echoes back to a discussion that he has with his child earlier in in the movie where basically the the little boy says, hey, can you promise me just one thing? Just promise me one thing.
01:34:57
Speaker
And the dad, you know played by Thomas Jane, is you know of he's like, of course, what is it? And he's like, don't ever let the monsters get me. And so that... getting a little teary eyed. So, so, so what he has to do is he has a gun and there are six people in the car, right?
01:35:16
Speaker
He has no, no there's a one, two, three, there's five, pardon me. There's five people in the car and there's only four fucking bullets. Yeah. And so he has to kill all of them because he knows that if they go outside, they're going to die anyway, but it's going to be a lot worse.
01:35:34
Speaker
So he kills his kid, kills the woman, kills the two old people that we love. And he's just screaming at the wheel, just screaming. i mean, how could you not? Brilliant performance by Tom and Jane. And and then, and then, and then, and then he gets out of the car and he hears something, which maybe it's a monster. He's going to die.
01:35:51
Speaker
No. It's the army coming to save them. And I'll tell you, I went for a walk today after I watched this movie and I just thought about that and I thought about that and I thought about how life is just a joke.
01:36:11
Speaker
It's a joke. And this movie illuminates it maybe better than any horror film I've ever seen before. Yeah, no, I would agree with you. This is, um I mean, I'll state it again in my final thoughts, but this is one of the most devastating movies I've ever seen. um Because once again, we create this world that you, and the world really is only within the supermarket. Like that's like what what what we have.
01:36:39
Speaker
And The whole โ the world is kind of, i don't know, created within this like super chasm of like just the supermarket because we have like the people that think they're too good for people. that we have the people that think that the people that think they're too good are too good. and And it's โ there's like a whole โ society that lives like in this little supermarket within the movie and you kind of see how they how they develop through it throughout the entire thing with various um strifes that that happened to them um i i they're this movie does such a good job of making you care about the characters and literally just ripping them out of your out of your hands at at at the end of the day i
01:37:20
Speaker
The one that was the most surprising for me, um and it happens actually pretty early on in the movie, but um the cashier um that she... Oh, yeah. God, it's so sad. they They built her up to be like a big character. She even has a romance with Private Jessup, and they have this whole like love story.
01:37:40
Speaker
um that they were high school and that they were in high school together and he never asked her out and they have a kiss and like you you think that she's like gonna be one of the main characters at the end of the day and during that first scuffle with those uh bug creatures she gets stung and literally like goes into cardiac arrest or whatever whatever happens her but she she dies and you're like holy shit like there's like there's bigger stakes here than I thought.
01:38:06
Speaker
yeah You know what I mean? like And it's then again echoed by the realtor woman that kills herself by taking pills because she couldn't protect the little boy and she feels so guilty yeah that she takes her own life.
01:38:20
Speaker
And it's just like, what am I watching? like yeah Because i like going into this, and honestly, for the first time, I don't know, 30 minutes, you kind of feel like you're watching like, oh, this is going to be like a fun Stephen King romp.
01:38:34
Speaker
And then like it slowly just devolves into this wasteland of human of of humanity. that' um That's a great way to explain it. Truly. um But I just think and I wrote in my notes, I said the quietness of this movie is really unsettling because the only time that there's really a score is when the monsters are there Any other time there are these moments where they just fade to black and they like come back into a scene where you're like, oh, I feel very weird.
01:39:05
Speaker
Like I feel not right. You know what I mean? Like it it screws with your emotions that way. And that's, I mean, I think that that's a testament to what Frank Darabond did with with this movie and what he would continue to do with the earlier seasons of The Walking Dead.
01:39:21
Speaker
um I'm not going to say anything about the later seasons of The Walking Dead, those first couple of seasons The Walking Dead are devastating just like this movie. So I think he gets the human condition.
01:39:32
Speaker
Like, he gets it. he He just has an inherent way of knowing. I will echo into what um I put in my notes is that when that siren goes off, when they're initially in the in the mist and they're in the supermarket and those, to what we would call in Chicago, those tornado sirens go That sound just makes my whole body...
01:39:56
Speaker
go insane. Like it's, it it is a instant reaction with inside of me that says like, you are in danger. so like yeah that, putting that in there just like, Ooh, makes me so gross. And, um, you know, we even get, I, didn't remember him at the end going back and seeing his wife dead.
01:40:14
Speaker
Um, yeah and I, I forgot that whole thing. i thought that they just kind of went on and you didn't know the outcome of, of the wife. And the way that he is devastated where he said, like, I told her I would fix that window because that's obviously where the creatures got in was through the broken window. It's just the whole thing is just, I'm sorry. Like, I, I'm really sorry. I wouldn't have recommended this movie if I would have known you were going through ah such a ah devastating week because this movie accents that devastation. No, no. ill I'll tell you what, actually, don't be sorry. Don't be sorry. And I, ah you know, look, I, I don't shy away from these types of things.
01:40:51
Speaker
Right. And, you know, just for, I'll just tell people so that they understand, like I went through like a, ah like it's, I don't want to call it a breakup because you weren't dating that long, but look, it was, if there were, there were feelings, it was good. It was nice. And then it had to end.
01:41:03
Speaker
I'll leave the reasons out of it. I wasn't really angry about it or, or, or annoyed. I i really wasn't. I was actually just really sad. And I was also taking a medication that I didn't realize one of the side effects is like super increased depression. And it, I was in a pretty dark place. so I'm done taking it now and I'm feeling a little bit better, but you know you know how it goes. so Anywho, thinking about watching a movie like this at that time, right?
01:41:29
Speaker
I think it's actually good because you have to look it in the face. You do. Yeah, I get that. And, you know, it's it's like the the the siren that gives you shivers, right?
01:41:42
Speaker
That siren is a call. it's it's almost like It's almost like a call to prayer and in one way or another. Eventually, at one point in your life, you're going to have to wrestle with the questions in this movie.
01:41:55
Speaker
not with Not with creatures flying around you. That's unlikely to happen. Hopefully you won't be stuck in a supermarket with you know dealing with you know a crazy profit bitch who's like you know going nuts.
01:42:08
Speaker
But the questions that arise out of this movie, out of this story about what does it mean to be alive? What does it mean to be alive with other people?
01:42:23
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And how do we somehow find a way to make sense of this reality? And I think that most of the people who listen to our show are either atheist or agnostic, one of the two.
01:42:38
Speaker
And if you take that out of it, you take God out of it, you take morality out of it, you take whatever out of it. then what is the point? You know what I mean?
01:42:50
Speaker
And that that's the question that every human has to answer for themselves. And wrestle some people will answer it through God, like Mrs. Carmody did. Some people will answer it through you know drugs or alcohol, or they will do it through sex, or they will do it, i mean, any number of things, right?
01:43:10
Speaker
But answering the fundamental question of why, not why you're not even why you're here, Andrew, why do you choose to stay here? That's the question. Yeah. And i i mean like I mean, look, we're talking about a fucking, we're talking about 2007 King Yeah.
01:43:27
Speaker
yeah look at how incredible how deeply moving And how disturbing yeah it is. so It's one of those movies that you don't necessarily want to watch again, but you're glad that you watched it.
01:43:42
Speaker
If that makes any sense. Honestly, i you know I rented it because i it wasn't streaming anywhere for me. um But I kind of wish I had just bought it because at some point, I actually i i do want to watch it again. Were you able to stream it or did you have to rent it?
01:43:55
Speaker
This is on Netflix for us. Oh, okay. Gotcha. yeah um so ah Just going back to a couple of things just before we kind of wrap things up on the movie that I want to hit on about this but because I think we talked a lot about like the ah the meaning behind the movie and what it meant to us. Yeah. talk a little bit about the actual like performance oh sure sure sure and like a little bit about the movie but um i think that thomas jane i think that this is probably his most powerful performance yeah um same with marcia gay harden i think that she has a repertoire that you can't even touch because she's been like literally in
01:44:28
Speaker
everything and she's great and everything but i think that her work as mrs carmandy here is without a doubt one of her one of her best a fully realized character i would say i my favorite my favorite quote is ah when um uh what's her what is her name um when amanda played by laurie holden who we saw uh in silent hill last time we last time we were on the show about that yeah um When she goes in to check on her in the bathroom, which that bathroom, oh my God, have you not been 50 million supermarket bathrooms that look exactly like that? Without fucking doubt. There's like mop in this corner. yeah
01:45:07
Speaker
um i don't know why grocery store bathrooms are so gross, but they just always are. And they're always like in the back room by the employee. They are required to be that way. That's the law. Um, but my favorite is when she goes to check on her and, um, she's like, you know, I'm just, I'm just trying to be a friend. I'm just trying to be here for you.
01:45:23
Speaker
And, um, Mrs. Carmody basically says back to her she says the day I need a friend, like you all squat and make one. And I was like, Whoa. Yeah. Whoa. Yeah. um Um, one of my other favorite quotes in this movie is made by the store manager when he finally goes back and sees the tentacle and they, they kind of like finally kill it. But he finally has a realization that like, yes, there is something in the mist.
01:45:46
Speaker
He comes out, uh, and, and looks at all the people and he goes, um, it seems we may have a problem of some magnitude here. Um, i Michael looked at me. He's like, well, that's one way to put it. And I was like, yeah, that's that's that's right.
01:46:01
Speaker
um I thought so when in looking at because i've I've read a lot of Stephen King, I thought that the Arrowhead Project comes into another Stephen King story, but I couldn't find a way to link it. I thought it had something to Dreamcatcher, but i i maybe I'm wrong.
01:46:19
Speaker
But if anybody out there knows like how the Arrowhead Project kind of feeds into um, the mist, like, let me know. I'd, I'd love to kind of make some connections. I love that Stephen King plays with this home, his own. Oh, well, laura and according to the, um, the fandom wiki, uh, it, it, I guess the arrowhead project is in fire starter and the time. That's, that's it. That is it. Okay. Okay.
01:46:43
Speaker
Yeah. So, so and Tommyknockers too, which I remember when Tommyknockers came out when I was young and it was a TV thing. or Do you you remember that? Yeah. With Jimmy Smith's. Yeah. yeah Oh yeah. Jimmy Smith's was in it. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, that, that it's vaguely familiar thinking about that when I think about it.
01:46:59
Speaker
I remember trying to read the Tommy knockers when I was a kid and I could not read it. yeah It was very confusing. I do know that the Tommy knockers is one of, um, when Stephen King was at his height of addiction. Um, so and in the that might be one of the ones that he doesn't even remember writing. Oh, wow. shit Um, but it's, it's, it's thing, but, um,
01:47:20
Speaker
So just going back to Mrs. Carmody one more time, i think it was hilarious that as she's giving her final um kind of sentiment after they fine after she finds out that they were trying to sneak away is that I wrote in my notes, I was like, of course she drinks milk.
01:47:34
Speaker
like wow only a crazy part sorry for all you milk clubbers out there but you're insane but uh i also wrote in my notes that this is stranger things before stranger things oh yes without a fucking doubt because like of like the portal that you mentioned and like how creatures come out of it it just it it reeks of like and obviously stranger things they've made no secret that they pull from a ton of other resources to like make what they make but It just kind of struck me and in watching this that this like, wow, this is kind of like Stranger Things. Now, now Andrew, I will tell you one criticism that I have ah of of the film.
01:48:12
Speaker
Okay. Yeah, I'd love to hear it. And and it has to do with music. um So Mark Isham actually did the music for the movie. And Mark Isham, if you don't mark know Mark Isham, Mark Isham is pretty fucking like profound. he's done He's done a whole lot of shit. He's Academy Award nominated composer. He's he's incredible.
01:48:30
Speaker
um I don't have a problem with that. I do have an issue with the song that Frank Darabont chose, which is by Dead Can Dance, and it's called The Host of Seraphim. Are you talking about the one that happens at the end? the The wailing song, right? Yeah, I totally agree with you. So like i I think that maybe in 2007, it might have hit right.
01:48:51
Speaker
People would have been like, oh, wow. But definitely to my ears now, I'm like, that sounds really foreign all of a sudden. Like, it's as well and it comes out of nowhere.
01:49:02
Speaker
Exactly. That's exactly what I was going to say. It's not, ah it's unlike any other score that you've heard throughout the movie. And it feels not right. <unk> it's and and And it's not. I mean, and like, look, it doesn't, it's not so bad that it ruined it. I mean, look, you can tell that it that we love this movie, obviously, from the way we just gushed over it.
01:49:22
Speaker
But that is one thing that I'm definitely like, oh, I really wish you had not chosen that. And apparently Darabont chose that because he wanted it to sound like a Requiem mass for the human race.
01:49:36
Speaker
no And fair enough. Fair enough. But there definitely could have been another way to do that. And he should have had Mark Isham compose something. But throughout the entire rest of the movie, it like i like I mentioned earlier, it rests in silence that it comes out of left field that it doesn't make any sense. I totally agree with you.
01:49:52
Speaker
um A couple of things about the movie. um I know that this movie actually was made in 37 days, which is insane. Really crazy.
01:50:03
Speaker
um And I do know that originally Frank Darabont wanted to show this film in theaters in black and white, which i I know that there's a cut of it that you can see on like, I think the Blu-ray. I want to see that in black and white.
01:50:17
Speaker
Because he based this whole thing off of kind of like... Not only Stephen King's novella, but also like War of the Worlds, like radio play type of thing, which actually if you go on Audible, you can listen to the um the radio play version of this movie. Oh, wow. It's actually pretty, pretty cool. Interesting. um um And I just, you know, i we've kind of talked this movie up a lot. I just think that it's a modern, a more modern masterpiece. it I completely agree with you.
01:50:46
Speaker
um I know that people are um kind of down the middle when it comes to the ending. I will tell you that I have read this novella. I forget exactly which Stephen King short. I think it's maybe Skeleton Crew or Nightmares and Dreamscapes. I can't remember exactly which one.
01:51:03
Speaker
Um, it's about a hundred pages, so it's not that long if you do want to read it. Some of the main differences is that the, um, uh, the, the main character of David is a little more sexual with Amanda. Like he actually does have an affair with her in the book, um, which they don't do in the movie, which I'm fine with, but it does up the stakes a little bit more. Sure. Sure. Sure.
01:51:24
Speaker
And at the end of the the main difference is the ending, which I will say that Stephen King says that he was genuinely frightened by this adaptation of his novella. And it Frank Darabon described that he as the happiest moment of his career. So, you know, I think that Stephen King is fine that he changed the ending. The original ending in the book is really them just driving into the mist. Like, oh, there's not.
01:51:46
Speaker
Yeah, this is this is way better. This is way better than that, Indian. Oh, my God. And um I think that um there's an interesting um there's an interesting opinion or a theory on that. Excuse me. One second.
01:52:00
Speaker
couldn There's an interesting theory on ah the wiki that says that ah before David and his group leaves, Mrs. Carmody requests that Billy and Amanda be sacrificed. So the little boy and the quote-unquote whore, which I don't know where she's getting whore from in this exact theory, but...
01:52:18
Speaker
You know, that's what she says in the movie. yeah um A popular theory by fans that Mrs. Carmody was actually right and that Billy's and Amanda's death at the end made the mist and the monsters go away, given the mist recedes as soon after David kills them. Oh, that's so weird. i didn't even think about that. oh my God.
01:52:39
Speaker
I don't necessarily subscribe to that theory. No, I don't either. but But it's interesting, though. Yeah, because I'm never going to say that Mrs. Carmody was the good guy. Oh, God, no way. Hell no. Hell to the no.
01:52:50
Speaker
um But yeah, that's kind of my thoughts on The Mist. It hit me much harder this time around than any other time I've watched it. um But yeah, i just if I'm going to give any criticism, I think you're totally right in the the end score. it definitely comes out of left field.
01:53:08
Speaker
um But my and my initial thoughts was an ensemble cast for the ages. ah We never really talked about this, but I will say some of the CGI is a little dodgy because it's 2007. But um I think if I did watch this in black and white, that might not bother me as much.
01:53:24
Speaker
um But this still serves as one of the most devastating movies I've literally ever seen. and you know, I'm going to bump my score up. i'm going to give it a six. Yeah. um I'm actually bumping mine up too, Andrew. And I'm putting it to a six and a half, which is... Almost perfect score. Which is one of the highest. I don't i don't know if I've given anything else six and a half, if I'm being honest with you. I can't. I'll have to go back and look.
01:53:45
Speaker
um Almost perfect score. It made me think a lot today. And I hope if you have not seen the movie or if you've seen it and you haven't seen it for a while, you'll watch it again and let it make you think about some things.
01:53:58
Speaker
Um, because the world is a scary place right now and it will be for a very long time. You will have to wrestle with these questions soon. Um, I said it shouldn't work, but it does. And that works for me.
01:54:11
Speaker
And I said, being a human is dumb and it sucks. And this film subversively tells you all about it.
Engagement and Promotions
01:54:19
Speaker
So now that we've depressed you enough, why don't we take a a small break and play a little game called Slice Left, Slice Right.
01:54:30
Speaker
Are you looking for me? I'm looking for someone. Where can you be? Where can you be? Someone. early to bed, early to rise makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise.
01:54:46
Speaker
That's why you're wiser than me. It's Stephen. Hi, I'm Maurice. I'm an executive by day and a wild man by night. Hi, my name's Monroe. ah You've probably already noticed that I have incredibly blue eyes.
01:54:59
Speaker
All right, that is the end of episode 83 of Fry Gay the 13th Horror Podcast. But wait, we still have one little game to play. final game!
01:55:09
Speaker
And that's basically to determine who we would sleep with. ha ha ha ha.
01:55:17
Speaker
um And so we are going to play our version of Tinder called Slice Left, Slice Right. ah Maddie, please remind me Slice Right is where I like them. yeah so So this is our terrifying twist on Tinder, which look, Tinder's terrifying enough, but we'll we'll take it a step up for you.
01:55:35
Speaker
um If you slice right, it means you like them. If you slice left, it means you don't like them. All right, so we will start this terrifying game where we determine our sexual preferences to Nick, our returning Tom Atkins in the fog. Matty, are you slicing left? Are you slicing right? ah You know, not my type, but fuck it. I'll slice right. I'm single. Let's go ahead and do it.
01:56:01
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, got to be honest, Tom Atkins has something about him. I don't know what it is because he he's he's not attractive in in my ah in in my like weird right with forte. But like, yes, I'm going to slice right. I just am He's got charisma, you know?
01:56:18
Speaker
Now, Andrew, how about David, also known as Thomas Jane, the father in The Mist? Yeah. Oh, slice right all day long. I mean, come on. It's Thomas Jane and he's playing that daddy energy. You got me. Yeah. So I'm going have to slice left.
01:56:33
Speaker
We all know that. No, just hear me out. Andrew, if you would, we all know I'm the daddy energy when it comes to the sexual relationship. I can't have another daddy in the, in the bed with me. I can't do it. All right. I'll, I'll let you have it.
01:56:46
Speaker
Finally, our, our third and last, uh, is private Jessup who is played by Sam Witwer. We didn't really get to twice. Right. We don't really get to talk much about him, but he does have a devastating end in that movie as well. He does. Honestly, his death is in the ranking of most disturbing things in the movie. It's like number three, if we're being honest.
01:57:08
Speaker
Definitely a slicing right. You know I got my shit all over that. Yeah. Well, I am too. I mean, look at him. like I'm slicing right. um I mean, he was also on the show Being Human on um yeah sci-fi a couple years ago that I fell in love with and fell in love with his character. So I can't see him any other way. And so, yes, you know who he ah reminded me of too? He reminded me of, um or I mean, or actually is he That's not the same guy, right? Yeah.
01:57:39
Speaker
Oh, no, he was in Battlestar Galactica. Ah, that makes sense. I didn't realize that. That makes sense. Because when I first saw him, when he came on screen, I was like, wait a minute. Is that the guy from um from Ted Lasso, ja Jamie?
01:57:52
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And then I was like, no, that's not him. That's not him at all. And that's how I know him. He's from Battlestar Galactica. Now it makes sense to me. Got it. So that does it for our final game of Slice Left, Slice Right. A couple of things just to get us closed out of the show. We are part of the Dread Podcast Network. If you're not familiar with the Dread Podcast Network, you go to dreadcentral.com and see all the great podcasts that are there, including Mick Garris, Kim and Ket, Development Hell, and et cetera.
01:58:20
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ah One more reminder, we are sponsoring Child's Play 2 at the Massacre at the Davis Theater on October first I will be there live passing out pins and Blu-rays all kinds of stuff. So come and see us.
01:58:35
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And then also on October 3rd, so just a mere two days later, you can tune into Spotify Live at 7 p.m. Central Standard Time, where we will be on with Garrett Clayton and his husband on Gay in the Life, which we are super excited about. And don't forget to download Spotify Live for that.
01:58:53
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um Also, if you want to support our fair podcast, you can do that. You can support Friday the 13th by becoming a patron on Patreon or buying merchandise from us. If you go to our website, Friday 13, that's Friday one three dot com slash support.
01:59:11
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Also, we let you know about this in our last episode, but we're really looking forward to our horror around the globe series that we are starting in November. So look forward to that. We're going to go around to different countries in different regions, um not travel to them, unfortunately, but we will be taking you there virtually.
01:59:27
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And we will review some of the horror films that come from there. So I'm looking forward to It's going be a really fun exploration. um Also, listen, if you are a listener to our show for the first time or for you know the last 82 episodes before this, if you have not left a review yet, I'm going to ask you, like we always do, to go and do that now.
01:59:47
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the and Exactly. The best way for people to learn about to learn about new podcasts is bar none reviews. People trust them. They're looking for them. They want to know if they should listen to something or not.
02:00:00
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Honestly, a lot of times if I look at a new podcast to listen to and it only has like 10 reviews, I won't listen to it. yeah So we need those reviews. I Yeah. So keep keep it going. like we've got We've got a wonderful collection of them, but we we're looking for yours too. So be sure to do that. And hey, you know what? Do it for the other podcasts that you listen to. Absolutely.
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Now, Andrew, also, I've got one more thing to say, and um it's really just a it's really just ah a thing that i want I want everyone to do, and that is to get slayed.